Q1 2026 TORM PLC Earnings Call
Jacob Meldgaard: Today. We started 2026 with a very strong Q1, delivering results that demonstrate both the earnings power of our platform and the strength of our execution in a supportive freight market. This morning, we released our Q1 2026 results, and we are pleased with the performance. Before I go into the details of the quarter, I would like to take a step back and briefly talk about TORM and the foundation that underpins these results and continues to differentiate us in the market. Again, our performance was driven by a combination of strong freight rates, disciplined execution, and the One TORM platform. While we remain attentive to global developments, we continue to align ourselves with market changes and believe we have a unique ability to react quickly to movements in spot prices. This is something we are often asked about.
Jacob Meldgaard: Today. We started 2026 with a very strong Q1, delivering results that demonstrate both the earnings power of our platform and the strength of our execution in a supportive freight market. This morning, we released our Q1 2026 results, and we are pleased with the performance. Before I go into the details of the quarter, I would like to take a step back and briefly talk about TORM and the foundation that underpins these results and continues to differentiate us in the market. Again, our performance was driven by a combination of strong freight rates, disciplined execution, and the One TORM platform. While we remain attentive to global developments, we continue to align ourselves with market changes and believe we have a unique ability to react quickly to movements in spot prices. This is something we are often asked about.
Speaker #1: Day. But we've started 2026 with a very strong first quarter, delivering results that demonstrate both the earnings power of our platform and the strength of our execution in a supportive freight market.
Speaker #1: This morning we released our Q1 2026 results, and we are pleased with the performance. However, before I go into the details of the quarter, I would like to take a step back and briefly talk about Torm and the foundation that underpins these results and continues to differentiate us in the markets.
Speaker #1: Again, our performance was driven by a combination of strong freight rates, disciplined execution, and the one-tone platform. While we remain attentive to global developments, we continue to align ourselves with market changes and believe we have a unique ability to react quickly to movements in spot prices.
Speaker #1: This is something we are often asked about. The answer is that it represents a quantifiable advantage over our peers. What we refer to as the one-tone advantage.
Jacob Meldgaard: The answer is that it represents a quantifiable advantage over our peers, what we refer to as the One TORM advantage. It is now embedded in the way we operate and is a capability our competitors would undoubtedly like to replicate. Importantly, this advantage is the result of a journey over many years, a journey that continues to evolve. We are able to track this across a range of performance indicators. For example, over a three-year period, our MR fleet generated TCE revenue that exceeded the peer average by approximately USD 200 million, reflecting the strength and efficiency of our operating model through higher utilization, disciplined cost control, and strong commercial execution. This culture of operational excellence is supported by our centralized management platform that coordinates and accelerates our decision-making.
Jacob Meldgaard: The answer is that it represents a quantifiable advantage over our peers, what we refer to as the One TORM advantage. It is now embedded in the way we operate and is a capability our competitors would undoubtedly like to replicate. Importantly, this advantage is the result of a journey over many years, a journey that continues to evolve. We are able to track this across a range of performance indicators. For example, over a three-year period, our MR fleet generated TCE revenue that exceeded the peer average by approximately USD 200 million, reflecting the strength and efficiency of our operating model through higher utilization, disciplined cost control, and strong commercial execution. This culture of operational excellence is supported by our centralized management platform that coordinates and accelerates our decision-making.
Speaker #1: It is now embedded in the way we operate and is a capability our competitors would undoubtedly like to replicate. Importantly, this advantage is the result of a journey over many years, a journey that continues to evolve.
Speaker #1: We are able to track this across a range of performance indicators. For example, over a three-year period, our MR fleet generated TCE revenue that exceeded the peer average by approximately US$200 million.
Speaker #1: Reflecting the strength and efficiency of our operating model, through higher utilization, disciplined cost control, and strong commercial execution. This culture of operational excellence is supported by our centralized management platform that coordinates and accelerates our decision-making.
Speaker #1: This is good news for our investors because it means we are now extremely well placed for the complex landscape ahead, and we remain confident that the shifting sands of geopolitical uncertainty continue to present opportunities for us.
Jacob Meldgaard: This is good news for our investors because it means we are now extremely well-placed for the complex landscape ahead, and we remain confident that the shifting sands of geopolitical uncertainty continue to present opportunities for us. Thus, it's no surprise to us that TORM share are currently in focus among the investment community as a route to unlock value from this uncertainty. Now please to slide number 4. As always, I'll start with the key financial outcomes for the quarter to give you a clear picture of how the business is developing. During Q1, we delivered TCE of $286 million, representing a clear continuation of the positive earnings trajectory seen over recent quarters. This was significantly higher than the same quarter last year, driven by consistently firm freight rates throughout the period, which strengthened further towards quarter end.
Jacob Meldgaard: This is good news for our investors because it means we are now extremely well-placed for the complex landscape ahead, and we remain confident that the shifting sands of geopolitical uncertainty continue to present opportunities for us. Thus, it's no surprise to us that TORM share are currently in focus among the investment community as a route to unlock value from this uncertainty. Now please to slide number 4. As always, I'll start with the key financial outcomes for the quarter to give you a clear picture of how the business is developing. During Q1, we delivered TCE of $286 million, representing a clear continuation of the positive earnings trajectory seen over recent quarters. This was significantly higher than the same quarter last year, driven by consistently firm freight rates throughout the period, which strengthened further towards quarter end.
Speaker #1: Thus, it's no surprise to us that Torm share, currently in focus among the investment community, has arrived to unlock value from this uncertainty.
Speaker #1: And now pleased to slide number four. As always, I'll start with the key financial outcomes for the quarter to give you a clear picture of how the business is developing.
Speaker #1: During the first quarter, we delivered TCE of $286 million, representing a clear continuation of the positive earnings trajectory seen over recent quarters. This was significantly higher than the same quarter last year, driven by consistently firm freight rates throughout the period, which strengthened further towards quarter end.
Speaker #1: These conditions reflect a value chain currently characterized by abnormal trade flows and structural inefficiencies. Resulting in elevated margins, not only for tanker companies like us, but also for our customers who are capturing strong profitability across the trading and refining segments.
Jacob Meldgaard: These conditions reflect a value chain currently characterized by abnormal trade flows and structural inefficiencies, resulting in elevated margins, not only for tanker companies like us, but also for our customers who are capturing strong profitability across the trading and refining segments. That top-line performance translated into an EBITDA of $201 million and a net profit of $122 million, reflecting both the strength of the market environment and our ability to convert rates into earnings through disciplined commercial execution and operational leverage. Supported by the continued strength we see across our markets and the solid momentum entering the remainder of the year, we are therefore increasing our full year guidance to $1.15 to 1.45 billion, underscoring our confidence in sustaining profitable growth.
Jacob Meldgaard: These conditions reflect a value chain currently characterized by abnormal trade flows and structural inefficiencies, resulting in elevated margins, not only for tanker companies like us, but also for our customers who are capturing strong profitability across the trading and refining segments. That top-line performance translated into an EBITDA of $201 million and a net profit of $122 million, reflecting both the strength of the market environment and our ability to convert rates into earnings through disciplined commercial execution and operational leverage. Supported by the continued strength we see across our markets and the solid momentum entering the remainder of the year, we are therefore increasing our full year guidance to $1.15 to 1.45 billion, underscoring our confidence in sustaining profitable growth.
Speaker #1: That top line performance translated into an EBITDA of US$201 million and a net profit of US$122 million, reflecting both the strength of the market environment and our ability to convert rates into earnings through disciplined commercial execution and operational leverage.
Speaker #1: Supported by the continued strength we see across our markets and the solid momentum entering the remainder of the year, we are therefore increasing our full-year guidance to US$1.15 to 1.45 billion underscoring our confidence in sustaining profitable growth.
Speaker #1: Also, we continued active fleet renewal adding younger second-hand vessels and committing further acquisitions while divesting older tonnage. After quarter end, we also agreed to acquire six MR resales with expected delivery of four in 2027 and two in 2028.
Jacob Meldgaard: We continued active fleet renewal, adding younger secondhand vessels and committing further acquisitions while divesting older tonnage. After quarter end, we also agreed to acquire six MR resales with expected delivery of 4 in 2027 and 2 in 2028. These acquisitions further enhance fleet flexibility and earnings capacity while preserving a prudent age profile. As of quarter end, our fleet consisted of 95 vessels. Once all the beforementioned transactions are completed, the fleet will increase to 103 vessels on a fully delivered basis. Please turn to slide 5. Before moving to the broader market, let me briefly address our current operating status. Safety remains our highest priority. We currently have 1 vessel inside the Persian Gulf, and I'm pleased to say that the crew are doing well, morale is high, and provisions are not an issue.
Jacob Meldgaard: We continued active fleet renewal, adding younger secondhand vessels and committing further acquisitions while divesting older tonnage. After quarter end, we also agreed to acquire six MR resales with expected delivery of 4 in 2027 and 2 in 2028. These acquisitions further enhance fleet flexibility and earnings capacity while preserving a prudent age profile. As of quarter end, our fleet consisted of 95 vessels. Once all the beforementioned transactions are completed, the fleet will increase to 103 vessels on a fully delivered basis. Please turn to slide 5. Before moving to the broader market, let me briefly address our current operating status. Safety remains our highest priority. We currently have 1 vessel inside the Persian Gulf, and I'm pleased to say that the crew are doing well, morale is high, and provisions are not an issue.
Speaker #1: These acquisitions further enhance fleet flexibility and earnings capacity while preserving a prudent age profile. As of quarter end, our fleet consisted of 95 vessels.
Speaker #1: Once all the before-mentioned transactions are completed, the fleet will increase to 103 vessels on a fully delivered basis. Please turn to slide five. Before moving to the broader market, let me briefly address our current operating status.
Speaker #1: Safety remains our highest priority. We currently have one vessel inside the Persian Gulf, and I'm pleased to say that the crew are doing well.
Speaker #1: Morale is high, and provisions are not an issue. As we will describe on this call, the market impact has been significant, tightening effective supply and contributing to the sharp increase in freight rates.
Jacob Meldgaard: As we will describe on this call, the market impact has been significant, tightening effective supply and contributing to the sharp increase in freight rates. Bunker prices have also moved higher, although availability remains secure. Throughout this period, our approach has been clear and unchanged. We take a safety-first approach in all operating decisions. Please turn to slide 7. Following a strong close to 2025, product tanker markets entered the Q1 of 2026 with rates stabilizing at levels well above historical averages. The strength was supported by broader momentum in the crude tanker market, which benefited from record volumes of cargo on the water, as well as the return of Venezuelan exports to the compliant fleet, and generally, more cautious use of sanctioned vessels globally. On top of this, the development was further supported by the consolidation of the ownership in the VLCC segment.
Jacob Meldgaard: As we will describe on this call, the market impact has been significant, tightening effective supply and contributing to the sharp increase in freight rates. Bunker prices have also moved higher, although availability remains secure. Throughout this period, our approach has been clear and unchanged. We take a safety-first approach in all operating decisions. Please turn to slide 7. Following a strong close to 2025, product tanker markets entered the Q1 of 2026 with rates stabilizing at levels well above historical averages. The strength was supported by broader momentum in the crude tanker market, which benefited from record volumes of cargo on the water, as well as the return of Venezuelan exports to the compliant fleet, and generally, more cautious use of sanctioned vessels globally. On top of this, the development was further supported by the consolidation of the ownership in the VLCC segment.
Speaker #1: Bunker prices have also moved higher, although availability remains secure. Throughout this period, our approach has been clear and unchanged, we take a safety-first approach in all operating decisions.
Speaker #1: Please turn to slide seven. Following a strong close to 2025, product tanker markets entered the first quarter of 2026 with rates stabilizing at levels well above historical averages.
Speaker #1: This strength was supported by broader momentum in the crude tanker market, which benefited from record volumes of cargo on the water as well as a return of Venezuelan exports to the compliant fleet.
Speaker #1: And generally, more cautious use of sanctioned vessels globally. And on top of this, the development was further supported by the consolidation of the ownership in the VLCC segment.
Speaker #1: The outbreak of the US-Israel-Iran war in late February and the subsequent closure of the Strait of Hormuz marked a further and unprecedented escalation in tanker rates.
Jacob Meldgaard: The outbreak of the US-Israel-Iran war in late February and the subsequent closure of the Strait of Hormuz marked a further and unprecedented escalation in tanker rates. This is clearly reflected in our commercial performance with Q2 average bookings to date above $70,000 per day across vessel sizes. Taken together, these dynamics have created one of the strongest cross-segment market environments we've seen in several years, underpinned by both structural and event-driven factors. Kindly turn to the next slide. Turn to slide 8, please. The closure of the Strait of Hormuz had an immediate and profound impact on global energy flows. Approximately 14% of global clean petroleum product volumes and around 30% of crude oil movements that would normally transit the strait were suddenly constrained. Combined, this corresponds to approximately 20% of global daily oil consumption.
Jacob Meldgaard: The outbreak of the US-Israel-Iran war in late February and the subsequent closure of the Strait of Hormuz marked a further and unprecedented escalation in tanker rates. This is clearly reflected in our commercial performance with Q2 average bookings to date above $70,000 per day across vessel sizes. Taken together, these dynamics have created one of the strongest cross-segment market environments we've seen in several years, underpinned by both structural and event-driven factors. Kindly turn to the next slide. Turn to slide 8, please. The closure of the Strait of Hormuz had an immediate and profound impact on global energy flows. Approximately 14% of global clean petroleum product volumes and around 30% of crude oil movements that would normally transit the strait were suddenly constrained. Combined, this corresponds to approximately 20% of global daily oil consumption.
Speaker #1: This is clearly reflected in our commercial performance with Q2 average bookings to date above US$70,000 per day across vessel sizes. Taken together, these dynamics have created one of the strongest cross-segment market environments we've seen in several years underpinned by both structural and event-driven factors.
Speaker #1: And currently, turn to the next slide. Turn to slide eight, please. The closure of the Strait of Hormuz had an immediate and profound impact on global energy flows.
Speaker #1: Approximately 14% of global clean petroleum product volumes and around 30% of crude oil movements that would normally transit the Strait were suddenly constrained. Combined, this corresponded to approximately 20% of global daily oil production.
Speaker #1: Consumption. In scale and immediacy, this represents the largest oil supply disruption in the market has ever experienced. On the clean product side, the impact was uneven.
Jacob Meldgaard: In scale and immediacy, this represents the largest oil supply disruption the market has ever experienced. On the clean product side, the impact was uneven. Naphtha and jet fuel were disproportionately affected, reflecting the Persian Gulf's central role in global exports, accounting for 37% of global naphtha exports and 21% of jet fuel under normal conditions. Diesel and gasoline were relatively less exposed. As the next slide will show, only a fraction of these lost volumes have been replaced so far, underscoring how structural this shock has been. Please turn to slide 9. In crude markets, part of the lost Persian Gulf supply has been mitigated through pipeline redirection from Saudi Arabia and the UAE, alongside increased flows from the Atlantic Basin. However, reduced crude availability at Asian refineries has forced meaningful run cuts, which in turn has sharply reduced clean petroleum product exports from the region.
Jacob Meldgaard: In scale and immediacy, this represents the largest oil supply disruption the market has ever experienced. On the clean product side, the impact was uneven. Naphtha and jet fuel were disproportionately affected, reflecting the Persian Gulf's central role in global exports, accounting for 37% of global naphtha exports and 21% of jet fuel under normal conditions. Diesel and gasoline were relatively less exposed. As the next slide will show, only a fraction of these lost volumes have been replaced so far, underscoring how structural this shock has been. Please turn to slide 9. In crude markets, part of the lost Persian Gulf supply has been mitigated through pipeline redirection from Saudi Arabia and the UAE, alongside increased flows from the Atlantic Basin. However, reduced crude availability at Asian refineries has forced meaningful run cuts, which in turn has sharply reduced clean petroleum product exports from the region.
Speaker #1: NAFTA and Jet Fuel were disproportionately affected reflecting the Persian Gulf's central role in global exports. Accounting for 37% of global NAFTA exports and 21% of Jet Fuel under normal conditions.
Speaker #1: Diesel and gasoline were relatively less exposed. As the next slide will show, only a fraction of these loss volumes have been replaced so far.
Speaker #1: Underscoring how structural this shock has been. Please turn to slide nine. In crude markets, part of the lowest Persian Gulf supply has been mitigated through pipeline redirection from Saudi Arabia and the UAE alongside increased flows from the Atlantic basin.
Speaker #1: However, reduced crude availability at Asian refineries has forced meaningful run cuts, which in turn has sharply reduced clean petroleum product exports from the region.
Speaker #1: By the end of April, global clean petroleum product trade was down by roughly 16% as incremental supply from Western markets moved in sufficient to offset the lost of Middle Eastern and Asian export.
Jacob Meldgaard: By the end of April, global clean petroleum product trade was down by roughly 16% as incremental supply from Western markets proved insufficient to offset the loss of Middle Eastern and Asian exports. Crude oil trades saw a decline of similar magnitude. Despite this contraction in traded volumes, product tanker rates remained elevated. Some of this reflects longer replacement voyages and urgency premiums, but the more important explanation lies on the ton supply side, which I'll address on the next slide. Here, please turn to the next slide, to slide 10. The closure of the Strait of Hormuz caused significant vessel dislocation, with more than 200 crude and product tankers stranded inside the Persian Gulf. This equates to roughly 3% of the global product tanker fleet and 6% of the crude fleet.
Jacob Meldgaard: By the end of April, global clean petroleum product trade was down by roughly 16% as incremental supply from Western markets proved insufficient to offset the loss of Middle Eastern and Asian exports. Crude oil trades saw a decline of similar magnitude. Despite this contraction in traded volumes, product tanker rates remained elevated. Some of this reflects longer replacement voyages and urgency premiums, but the more important explanation lies on the ton supply side, which I'll address on the next slide. Here, please turn to the next slide, to slide 10. The closure of the Strait of Hormuz caused significant vessel dislocation, with more than 200 crude and product tankers stranded inside the Persian Gulf. This equates to roughly 3% of the global product tanker fleet and 6% of the crude fleet.
Speaker #1: Crude oil trade saw a decline of similar magnitude. Despite this contraction in traded volumes, product tanker rates remained elevated. Some of this reflects longer replacement voyages and urgency premiums, but the more important explanation lies on the tonnage supply side which I'll address on the next slide.
Speaker #1: And here, please turn to the next slide to slide 10. The closure of the Strait of Hormuz caused significant vessel dislocation. With more than 200 crude and product tankers stranded inside the Persian Gulf.
Speaker #1: This equates to roughly 3% of the global product tanker fleet and 6% of the crude fleet. As vessels were rerouted toward regions with replacement volumes, we saw higher ballast ratios and materially increased inefficiencies.
Jacob Meldgaard: As vessels were rerouted toward regions with replacement volumes, we saw higher ballast ratios and materially increased inefficiencies. In simple terms, ships spending more time sailing empty to reach their next cargo. In the MR segment, increased east to west ballasting was partially offset by stronger west to east cargo flows as Asian product supply tightened. At the same time, we saw an unprecedented shift of LR2 vessels into crude trading, the so-called dirty ops. By the end of April, the number of LR2s trading clean products had fallen by more than 50 vessels compared with the start of the year, despite the delivered 27 newbuildings. As a result, effective CPP trading fleet capacity declined by around 4%, even before accounting for the vessels stranded in the Gulf. Please turn to slide 11.
Jacob Meldgaard: As vessels were rerouted toward regions with replacement volumes, we saw higher ballast ratios and materially increased inefficiencies. In simple terms, ships spending more time sailing empty to reach their next cargo. In the MR segment, increased east to west ballasting was partially offset by stronger west to east cargo flows as Asian product supply tightened. At the same time, we saw an unprecedented shift of LR2 vessels into crude trading, the so-called dirty ops. By the end of April, the number of LR2s trading clean products had fallen by more than 50 vessels compared with the start of the year, despite the delivered 27 newbuildings. As a result, effective CPP trading fleet capacity declined by around 4%, even before accounting for the vessels stranded in the Gulf. Please turn to slide 11.
Speaker #1: In simple terms, ships spending more time sailing empty to reach their next cargo. In the MR segment, increased east-to-west ballasting was partly offset by stronger west-to-east cargo flows as Asian product supply tightened.
Speaker #1: At the same time, we saw an unprecedented shift of LR2 vessels into crude trading. The so-called dirty ops. By the end of April, the number of LR2s trading clean products had fallen by more than 50 vessels compared with the start of the year.
Speaker #1: Despite the delivery of 27 new buildings, effective CPP trading fleet capacity climbed by around 4%, even before accounting for the vessels stranded in the Gulf.
Speaker #1: Please turn to slide 11. It is, however, important to recognize that this migration of LR2s into crude trading began well before the Strait of Hormuz closure.
Jacob Meldgaard: It is, however, important to recognize that this migration of LR2s into crude trading began well before the Strait of Hormuz closure. Since 2025, the Aframax and LR2 segments have faced extensive vessel sanctioning, largely linked to Russian crude trades. In 2025 alone, more than 200 Aframax and LR2 vessels were sanctioned. This has created a growing disconnect between newbuilding deliveries and effective fleet growth. Since the start of 2025, nominal product tanker capacity is up 8%. Yet the capacity actually trading clean today is around 4% lower. The scale of sanctions is noticeable. 1 in 4 vessels in the combined Aframax LR2 segment is currently under US, EU, or UK sanctions. This comes on top of an already balanced order book due to the high share of older vessels.
Jacob Meldgaard: It is, however, important to recognize that this migration of LR2s into crude trading began well before the Strait of Hormuz closure. Since 2025, the Aframax and LR2 segments have faced extensive vessel sanctioning, largely linked to Russian crude trades. In 2025 alone, more than 200 Aframax and LR2 vessels were sanctioned. This has created a growing disconnect between newbuilding deliveries and effective fleet growth. Since the start of 2025, nominal product tanker capacity is up 8%. Yet the capacity actually trading clean today is around 4% lower. The scale of sanctions is noticeable. 1 in 4 vessels in the combined Aframax LR2 segment is currently under US, EU, or UK sanctions. This comes on top of an already balanced order book due to the high share of older vessels.
Speaker #1: Since 2025, the Aframax and LR2 segments have faced extensive vessel sanctioning, largely linked to Russian crude trades. In 2025 alone, more than 200 Aframax and LR2 vessels were sanctioned.
Speaker #1: This has created a growing disconnect between new building deliveries and effective fleet growth. Since the start of 2025, nominal product tanker capacity is up 8%, yet the capacity actually trading clean today is around 4% lower.
Speaker #1: The scale of sanctions is noticeable. One in four vessels in the combined Aframax LR2 segment is currently under US, EU, or UK sanctions. This comes on top of an already balanced order book due to the high share of older vessels.
Speaker #1: With 60% of the sanctioned fleet older than 20 years, the prospect of these ships returning to the mainstream clean market, even if sanctions were lifted, appears increasingly limited.
Jacob Meldgaard: With 60% of the sanctioned fleet older than 20 years, the prospect of these ships returning to the mainstream clean market, even if sanctions were lifted, appears increasingly limited. Now turn to slide 12. Let me frame this slide with 1 central point. What we are facing is not a return to normal, but a structural market reset. First, on timing. The duration and persistence of the closure of the Strait of Hormuz remain uncertain, despite recent diplomatic attempts to end the conflict. Currently, tanker transits through the Strait of Hormuz remain more than 95% below the pre-conflict levels. We don't know when transit will resume, and we're not speculating on the timing. That uncertainty is real, and we are managing the business responsibly with that reality in mind. What is equally important, however, is what happens after reopening.
Jacob Meldgaard: With 60% of the sanctioned fleet older than 20 years, the prospect of these ships returning to the mainstream clean market, even if sanctions were lifted, appears increasingly limited. Now turn to slide 12. Let me frame this slide with 1 central point. What we are facing is not a return to normal, but a structural market reset. First, on timing. The duration and persistence of the closure of the Strait of Hormuz remain uncertain, despite recent diplomatic attempts to end the conflict. Currently, tanker transits through the Strait of Hormuz remain more than 95% below the pre-conflict levels. We don't know when transit will resume, and we're not speculating on the timing. That uncertainty is real, and we are managing the business responsibly with that reality in mind. What is equally important, however, is what happens after reopening.
Speaker #1: And now turn to slide 12. Let me frame this slide with one central point. What we are facing is not a return to normal, but a structural market reset.
Speaker #1: First, on timing. The duration and persistence of the closure of the Strait of Hormuz remain uncertain. Despite recent diplomatic attempts to end the conflict.
Speaker #1: Currently, tanker transits through the Strait of Hormuz remain more than 95% below pre-conflict levels. We don't know when transit will resume, and we're not speculating on the timing.
Speaker #1: That uncertainty is real and we are managing the business responsibly with that reality in mind. What is equally important, however, is what happens after reopening.
Speaker #1: When transits resume, the market does not simply switch back to where it was. There'll be tonnage dislocation and significant vessel repositioning as assets reenter trade lanes that have been disrupted for an extended period.
Jacob Meldgaard: When transits resume, the market does not simply switch back to where it was. There'll be tonnage dislocation and significant vessel repositioning as assets reenter trade lanes that have been disrupted for an extended period. That creates friction, inefficiency, and volatility, conditions where agile operators outperform. At the same time, depleted strategic and commercial inventories will need to be rebuilt, a multi-year process that supports sustained activity rather than a temporary outlet. The UAE's recent exit from OPEC enables higher production, which is likely to accelerate the replenishment of global oil stocks. It's also important to remember that tanker market strength was already evident before the Strait of Hormuz closure. Those fundamentals were paused, not erased. From our perspective, the key is readiness. We have deliberately built an agile business platform that allows us to react immediately.
Jacob Meldgaard: When transits resume, the market does not simply switch back to where it was. There'll be tonnage dislocation and significant vessel repositioning as assets reenter trade lanes that have been disrupted for an extended period. That creates friction, inefficiency, and volatility, conditions where agile operators outperform. At the same time, depleted strategic and commercial inventories will need to be rebuilt, a multi-year process that supports sustained activity rather than a temporary outlet. The UAE's recent exit from OPEC enables higher production, which is likely to accelerate the replenishment of global oil stocks. It's also important to remember that tanker market strength was already evident before the Strait of Hormuz closure. Those fundamentals were paused, not erased. From our perspective, the key is readiness. We have deliberately built an agile business platform that allows us to react immediately.
Speaker #1: That creates friction in efficiency and volatility conditions where agile operators outperform. At the same time, depleted strategic and commercial inventories will need to be rebuilt.
Speaker #1: A multi-year process that supports sustained activity rather than a temporary outlet. The UAE's recent exit from OPEC enables higher production which is likely to accelerate the replenishment of global oil stocks.
Speaker #1: It's also important to remember that tanker market strength was already evident before the Strait of Hormuz closure. Those fundamentals were paused, From our perspective, the key is readiness.
Speaker #1: We have deliberately built an agile business platform that allows us to react immediately. So when the trade opens, we are well positioned to benefit from the market reset.
Jacob Meldgaard: When the strait opens, we are well-positioned to benefit from the market reset. Please turn to Slide 13. To conclude on the market, the tanker industry today is operating in an environment shaped by an unusually large and growing number of geopolitical factors. Trade routes, cargo flows, sanctions regimes, and security considerations are all contributing to greater market inefficiency. Importantly, it's not new, but it has intensified. Since 2022, the number of geopolitical variables we are navigating has increased significantly, adding friction and complexity to global energy transportation. For the industry, inefficiency translates into longer voyages, dislocated tonnage, and volatility. For well-positioned operators like us, it also creates opportunity, provided you have the scale, agility, and discipline to navigate it effectively. With that, I'll now hand it over to Kim, who will walk us through the numbers.
Jacob Meldgaard: When the strait opens, we are well-positioned to benefit from the market reset. Please turn to Slide 13. To conclude on the market, the tanker industry today is operating in an environment shaped by an unusually large and growing number of geopolitical factors. Trade routes, cargo flows, sanctions regimes, and security considerations are all contributing to greater market inefficiency. Importantly, it's not new, but it has intensified. Since 2022, the number of geopolitical variables we are navigating has increased significantly, adding friction and complexity to global energy transportation. For the industry, inefficiency translates into longer voyages, dislocated tonnage, and volatility. For well-positioned operators like us, it also creates opportunity, provided you have the scale, agility, and discipline to navigate it effectively. With that, I'll now hand it over to Kim, who will walk us through the numbers.
Speaker #1: Please turn to slide 13. Now, to conclude on the market, the tanker industry today is operating in an environment shaped by an unusually large and growing number of geopolitical factors.
Speaker #1: Trade routes, cargo flows, sanctions regimes, and security considerations are all contributing to greater market inefficiency. Importantly, this is not new, but it has intensified.
Speaker #1: Since 2022, the number of geopolitical variables we are navigating has increased significantly adding friction and complexity to global energy transportation. For the industry, inefficiency translates into longer voyages, dislocated turns, and volatility.
Speaker #1: For well-positioned operators like us, it also creates opportunity—provided you have the scale, agility, and discipline to navigate it effectively. And with that, I'll now hand it over to Kim, who will walk us through the numbers.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Jacob. Now, please turn to slide 15 and let me walk you through some of the drivers behind our performance. The product tanker market entered 2026 on a strong footing.
Kim Balle: Thank you, Jacob. Now, please turn to Slide 15 and let me walk you through some of the drivers behind our performance. The product tanker market entered 2026 on a strong footing, and this momentum was sustained throughout Q1, supporting another solid set of results for TORM. For Q1, we delivered TCE of $286 million, translating into EBITDA of $201 million, and a net profit of $122 million. These results reflect firm freight markets across the quarter and our continued ability to consistently capture this across the fleet. On a fleetwide basis, average TCE was $34,937 per day, and by segment, LR2 earnings exceeded $41,000 per day.
Kim Balle: Thank you, Jacob. Now, please turn to Slide 15 and let me walk you through some of the drivers behind our performance. The product tanker market entered 2026 on a strong footing, and this momentum was sustained throughout Q1, supporting another solid set of results for TORM. For Q1, we delivered TCE of $286 million, translating into EBITDA of $201 million, and a net profit of $122 million. These results reflect firm freight markets across the quarter and our continued ability to consistently capture this across the fleet. On a fleetwide basis, average TCE was $34,937 per day, and by segment, LR2 earnings exceeded $41,000 per day.
Speaker #1: And this momentum was sustained throughout the first quarter, supporting another solid set of results for TON. For the first quarter, we delivered TCE of US$286 million translating into EVDA of US$201 million and a net profit of US$122 million.
Speaker #1: These results reflect firm freight markets across the quarter and our continued ability to consistently capture this across the fleet. On a fleet-wide basis, average TCE was US$34,937 per day.
Speaker #1: And by segment, LR2 earnings exceeded US$41,000 per day. MRS earned just under $33,000 per day while LR1s came in around US$35,000 per day. RE up significantly compared to the freight rates we had a year ago.
Kim Balle: MRs earned just under 33,000 per day, while LR1s came in around $35,000 per day, i.e. up significantly compared to the freight rates we had a year ago. Our TCE earnings were affected by timing issues relating to IFRS 15. Under IFRS 15, we recognize freight revenue from when cargo is loaded until it is discharged, not from when the voyage is agreed and hence influenced by changes in balance patterns. It does not impact our underlying cash earnings or the economic performance of the vessels. Again, the realized earnings level highlight the continued strength of the underlying market, supported in part by very firm crude tanker rates, which again influenced product tanker dynamics positively. With that overview in place, let me turn to Slide 16, where we break down earnings in more detail and walk through the underlying drivers.
Kim Balle: MRs earned just under 33,000 per day, while LR1s came in around $35,000 per day, i.e. up significantly compared to the freight rates we had a year ago. Our TCE earnings were affected by timing issues relating to IFRS 15. Under IFRS 15, we recognize freight revenue from when cargo is loaded until it is discharged, not from when the voyage is agreed and hence influenced by changes in balance patterns. It does not impact our underlying cash earnings or the economic performance of the vessels. Again, the realized earnings level highlight the continued strength of the underlying market, supported in part by very firm crude tanker rates, which again influenced product tanker dynamics positively. With that overview in place, let me turn to Slide 16, where we break down earnings in more detail and walk through the underlying drivers.
Speaker #1: Our TCE earnings were affected by timing issues relating to IFRS 15. Under IFRS 15, we recognized freight revenue from when cargo is loaded until it is discharged, not from when the voyage is agreed and hence influenced by changes in balance patterns.
Speaker #1: It does not impact our underlying cash earnings, or the economic performance of the vessels. Again, the realized earnings level highlight the continued strength of the underlying market, support in part by very firm crude tanker rates which again influence product tanker dynamics positively.
Speaker #1: With that overview in place, let me turn to slide 16 where we break down earnings down in more detail and walk through the underlying drivers.
Speaker #1: This slide illustrates our quarterly earnings development since the first quarter of 2025. And what stands out very clearly is the step-up we see in the most recent quarter.
Kim Balle: This slide illustrates our quarterly earnings development since Q1 2025, what stands out very clearly is the step-up we see in the most recent quarter. While the Q1 results we delivered a meaningful uplift in earnings, continuing and accelerating the positive trajectory we have seen over recent quarters. This reflects the strength of the freight market and confirms that the supportive market conditions are translating directly into financial performance. For the quarter, we generated TCE of $286 million and EBITDA of $201 million, making this our strongest quarterly result since Q2 2024. It is a clear validation of both the market environment and our ability to capitalize on it.
Kim Balle: This slide illustrates our quarterly earnings development since Q1 2025, what stands out very clearly is the step-up we see in the most recent quarter. While the Q1 results we delivered a meaningful uplift in earnings, continuing and accelerating the positive trajectory we have seen over recent quarters. This reflects the strength of the freight market and confirms that the supportive market conditions are translating directly into financial performance. For the quarter, we generated TCE of $286 million and EBITDA of $201 million, making this our strongest quarterly result since Q2 2024. It is a clear validation of both the market environment and our ability to capitalize on it.
Speaker #1: While the Q1 results we delivered and meaning uplift in earnings continuing and accelerating the positive trajectory, we are seeing over recent quarters. This reflects the strength of the freight market and confirms that the supportive market conditions are translating directly into financial performance.
Speaker #1: For the quarter, we generated TCE of $286 million and EVDA of US$201 million making this our strongest quarterly result since the second quarter of 2024.
Speaker #1: It is a clear validation of both the market environment and our ability to capitalize on it. The primary driver was firm freight rates supported by strong spillover from the crude tanker sector and continued geopolitical disruptions in the Middle East which have introduced additional inefficiencies into the market.
Kim Balle: The primary driver was firm freight rates, supported by strong spillover from the crude tanker sector and continued geopolitical disruptions in the Middle East, which have introduced additional inefficiencies into the market. Importantly, given the inherent operational leverage in our business model, incremental rate improvements translate efficiently into higher earnings. This sets out a solid foundation as we move through the remainder of the year. Please turn to slide 17. On this slide, we show the quarterly development net profit alongside earnings and dividends per share. Starting with earnings, net profit increased to $122 million, corresponding to earnings per share of $1.21.
Kim Balle: The primary driver was firm freight rates, supported by strong spillover from the crude tanker sector and continued geopolitical disruptions in the Middle East, which have introduced additional inefficiencies into the market. Importantly, given the inherent operational leverage in our business model, incremental rate improvements translate efficiently into higher earnings. This sets out a solid foundation as we move through the remainder of the year. Please turn to slide 17. On this slide, we show the quarterly development net profit alongside earnings and dividends per share. Starting with earnings, net profit increased to $122 million, corresponding to earnings per share of $1.21.
Speaker #1: Importantly, given the inherent operational leverage in our business model, incremental rate improvements translate efficiently into higher earnings. This sets out a solid foundation as we move through the remainder of the year.
Speaker #1: Please turn to slide 17. On this slide, we show the quarterly development net profit alongside earnings and dividends per share. Starting with earnings net profit increased to US$122 million corresponding to earnings per share of US$1.21.
Speaker #1: Returning to free cash flow generation and capital return, it is important to note that a combination of high freight rates and elevated bunker prices resulted in a networking capital increase of around US$30 million during the quarter.
Kim Balle: Turning to free cash flow generation and capital returns, it is important to note that a combination of high freight rates and elevated bunker prices resulted in a net working capital increase of around $30 million during the quarter. Against this backdrop, the board has declared a dividend of $4.7 per share, equivalent to a payout ratio of 58%. This reflects the free cash flow generated after accounting for the working capital build. Absent to this effect, the implied payout ratio would have been in the range of 80% to 85%. We believe this once again demonstrates that our capital return framework strikes the right balance, remaining clear and disciplined while being firmly anchored in strong and sustainable underlying cash earnings generation. Now please turn to slide 18.
Kim Balle: Turning to free cash flow generation and capital returns, it is important to note that a combination of high freight rates and elevated bunker prices resulted in a net working capital increase of around $30 million during the quarter. Against this backdrop, the board has declared a dividend of $4.7 per share, equivalent to a payout ratio of 58%. This reflects the free cash flow generated after accounting for the working capital build. Absent to this effect, the implied payout ratio would have been in the range of 80% to 85%. We believe this once again demonstrates that our capital return framework strikes the right balance, remaining clear and disciplined while being firmly anchored in strong and sustainable underlying cash earnings generation. Now please turn to slide 18.
Speaker #1: Against this backdrop, the Board has declared a dividend of $0.70 per share, equivalent to a payout ratio of 58%. This reflects the free cash flow generated after accounting for the working capital built.
Speaker #1: Absent to this effect, the implied payout ratio would have been in the range of 80 to 85%. We believe this once again demonstrates that our capital return framework strikes the right balance remaining clear and disciplined while being firmly anchored in strong and sustainable underlying cash earnings generation.
Speaker #1: And now, please turn to slide 18. As shown on this slide, broker valuations for our fleets stood at $3.6 billion at the end of the quarter.
Kim Balle: As shown on this slide, broker valuations for our fleet stood at $3.6 billion at the end of the quarter. This reflects a continued positive sentiment across the tanker asset market and results in an increase in our net asset value to $3.1 billion. Importantly, average broker valuations for the fleet increased by 9.7% during Q1, with particularly strong appreciation seen in the LR2 segment. This development is an acceleration of what we observed the previous quarter and further underlies both the improving market backdrop and the quality of our asset base.
Kim Balle: As shown on this slide, broker valuations for our fleet stood at $3.6 billion at the end of the quarter. This reflects a continued positive sentiment across the tanker asset market and results in an increase in our net asset value to $3.1 billion. Importantly, average broker valuations for the fleet increased by 9.7% during Q1, with particularly strong appreciation seen in the LR2 segment. This development is an acceleration of what we observed the previous quarter and further underlies both the improving market backdrop and the quality of our asset base.
Speaker #1: This reflects a continued positive sentiment across the tanker asset market and results in an increase in our net asset value to $3.1 billion. Importantly, average broker valuations for the fleet increased by 9.7% during the first quarter, with particularly strong appreciation seen in the LR2 and LR1 segments.
Speaker #1: This development is an acceleration of what we observed in the previous quarter and further underlies both the improving market backdrop and the quality of our asset base.
Speaker #1: Turning to the center chart, you can see our net interest-bearing debt, which now stands at $894 million, and this corresponds to a net loan-to-value ratio of 25.1%, keeping us comfortably within the range we have maintained for many quarters.
Kim Balle: Turning to the center chart, you can see our net interest bearing debt, which now stands at $894 million. This corresponds to a net loan-to-value ratio of 25.1%, keeping us comfortably within the range we have maintained for many quarters. This highlights the strength of our conservative capital structure. Maintaining stable leverage at these levels provides us with significant financial flexibility, allowing us to pursue value accretive opportunities as we have demonstrated this quarter, while at the same time preserving balance sheet resilience through market cycles. Finally, on the right side, you see our debt maturity profile. We have $287 million in borrowings maturing over the next 12 months. Beyond that, maturities are modest and well distributed across the subsequent years.
Kim Balle: Turning to the center chart, you can see our net interest bearing debt, which now stands at $894 million. This corresponds to a net loan-to-value ratio of 25.1%, keeping us comfortably within the range we have maintained for many quarters. This highlights the strength of our conservative capital structure. Maintaining stable leverage at these levels provides us with significant financial flexibility, allowing us to pursue value accretive opportunities as we have demonstrated this quarter, while at the same time preserving balance sheet resilience through market cycles. Finally, on the right side, you see our debt maturity profile. We have $287 million in borrowings maturing over the next 12 months. Beyond that, maturities are modest and well distributed across the subsequent years.
Speaker #1: This highlights the strength of our conservative capital structure maintaining stable leverage at these levels provides us with significant financial flexibility allowing us to pursue value-attractive opportunities as we have demonstrated this quarter while at the same time preserving balance sheet resilience through micro cycles.
Speaker #1: Finally, on the right side, you see our debt maturity profile. We have $287 million in borrowings maturing over the next 12 months, and beyond that, maturities are modest and well distributed across the subsequent years.
Speaker #1: Overall, our solid balance sheet positions us well to navigate current market conditions with confidence while preserving the ability to act decisively on attractive opportunities as they emerge.
Kim Balle: Overall, our solid balance sheet positions us well to navigate current market conditions with confidence while preserving the ability to act decisively on attractive opportunities as they emerge. Now please turn to slide 19, where I will walk you through our outlook for 2026. Based on the strong start to the year and the earnings visibility we now have in the near term, we are upgrading our full year 2026 guidance. For the full year, we now expect TCE of $1.15 to 1.45 billion, up from our previous guidance range from $850 to 1,250 million. At the same time, we upgrade our EBITDA guidance to $800 million to 1.1 billion, compared with the previous $500 to 900 million.
Kim Balle: Overall, our solid balance sheet positions us well to navigate current market conditions with confidence while preserving the ability to act decisively on attractive opportunities as they emerge. Now please turn to slide 19, where I will walk you through our outlook for 2026. Based on the strong start to the year and the earnings visibility we now have in the near term, we are upgrading our full year 2026 guidance. For the full year, we now expect TCE of $1.15 to 1.45 billion, up from our previous guidance range from $850 to 1,250 million. At the same time, we upgrade our EBITDA guidance to $800 million to 1.1 billion, compared with the previous $500 to 900 million.
Speaker #1: And now, please turn to slide 19, where I will walk you through our outlook for 2026. Based on the strong start to the year and the earnings visibility we now have in the near term, we are upgrading our full-year 2026 guidance.
Speaker #1: For the full year, we now expect TCE of US$1.15 to 1.45 billion up from our previous guidance range from US$850 to $1,250 million. At the same time, we upgrade our EVDA guidance to US$800 million to 1.1 billion compared with the previous US$500 to $900 million.
Speaker #1: Market conditions have reached exceptionally strong levels in the second quarter, supported by a tight tonnage balance and continued trade dislocations. As a result, we have already secured 57% of our earning days in Q2 at a fleet-wide average TCE of $71,494 per day.
Kim Balle: Market conditions have reached exceptionally strong levels in Q2, supported by tight tonnage balance and continued trade dislocations. As a result, we have already secured 57% of our earning days in Q2 at a fleet-wide average of TCE $71,494 per day. A significant share of this Q2 is therefore fixed at very attractive rate levels, providing a high degree of near term earnings visibility. This strong coverage gives us a very solid foundation for the year and reflects the positive traction we have seen across all vessel segments. This upgrade reflects two main factors. First, the strong earnings performance delivered in Q1. Second, the very strong coverage we have secured for Q2 at rate levels that are unprecedented for the product tanker market.
Kim Balle: Market conditions have reached exceptionally strong levels in Q2, supported by tight tonnage balance and continued trade dislocations. As a result, we have already secured 57% of our earning days in Q2 at a fleet-wide average of TCE $71,494 per day. A significant share of this Q2 is therefore fixed at very attractive rate levels, providing a high degree of near term earnings visibility. This strong coverage gives us a very solid foundation for the year and reflects the positive traction we have seen across all vessel segments. This upgrade reflects two main factors. First, the strong earnings performance delivered in Q1. Second, the very strong coverage we have secured for Q2 at rate levels that are unprecedented for the product tanker market.
Speaker #1: A significant share of this quarter is therefore fixed at very attractive rate levels, providing a high degree of near-term earnings visibility. This strong coverage gives us a very solid foundation for the year and reflects the positive traction we have seen across all vessel segments.
Speaker #1: Thus, this upgrade reflects two main factors. First, the strong earnings performance delivered in the first quarter and second, the very strong coverage we have secured for the second quarter at rate levels that are unprecedented for the product tanker market.
Speaker #1: For the uncovered days, we have, as usual, used the forward derivatives market as a reference. And, as always, the updated guidance remains subject to market volatility, geopolitical developments, and potential changes in trade patterns.
Kim Balle: For the uncovered days, we have, as usual, used the forward derivatives market as a reference. As always, the updated guidance remains subject to market volatility, geopolitical developments, and potential changes in trade patterns, particularly as we move into H2 of the year. That said, we believe our upgraded guidance properly reflects both the strengths of the current market backdrop and the visibility we have today. With this, I will hand it back to the operator.
Kim Balle: For the uncovered days, we have, as usual, used the forward derivatives market as a reference. As always, the updated guidance remains subject to market volatility, geopolitical developments, and potential changes in trade patterns, particularly as we move into H2 of the year. That said, we believe our upgraded guidance properly reflects both the strengths of the current market backdrop and the visibility we have today. With this, I will hand it back to the operator.
Speaker #1: Particularly at a smooth as we move into the second half of the year. That said, we believe our upgraded guidance properly reflects both the strengths of the current market backdrop and the visibility we have today.
Speaker #1: And with this, I will hand it back to the operator. Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. If you have dialed in and would like to ask a question, please press star one and your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue.
Operator: Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Your first question comes from the line of Jonathan Chappell with Evercore ISI. Your line is now open.
Operator: Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Your first question comes from the line of Jonathan Chappell with Evercore ISI. Your line is now open.
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Speaker #1: In your first question comes from the line of John Chapel with Evercore ISI. Your line is now open.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Good afternoon. Kim, I want to go back to the dividend slide. You mentioned it briefly—the 58% payout ratio, but it would have been 83.5%.
Jonathan Chappell: Thank you. Good afternoon. Kim, I want to go back to the dividend slide. You mentioned it briefly, the 58% payout ratio, would have been 83.5%. Can you remind us what that difference was? If it's associated with the new builds, how do we think about the payout ratio going forward? Is it closer to this 58%, which was the lowest payout ratio since Q3 2022, or does it return something to that 80% range that it's been for much of the last 3 years?
John Chappell: Thank you. Good afternoon. Kim, I want to go back to the dividend slide. You mentioned it briefly, the 58% payout ratio, would have been 83.5%. Can you remind us what that difference was? If it's associated with the new builds, how do we think about the payout ratio going forward? Is it closer to this 58%, which was the lowest payout ratio since Q3 2022, or does it return something to that 80% range that it's been for much of the last 3 years?
Speaker #2: Can you remind us what that difference was and then if it's associated with the new builds, how do we think about the payout ratio going forward?
Speaker #2: Is it closer to this 58, which was the lowest payout ratio since 3Q22, or does it return something to that 80%-ish range that it's been for much of the last three years?
Speaker #3: Yeah. Hi, John. Thank you very much for that question. What I tried to communicate was that when we saw the market rate increase during March we will have DSOs, freight days outstanding of around, let's say, 45 to 50 days.
Kim Balle: Yeah. Hi, John. Thank you very much for that question. What I tried to communicate was that when we saw the market rate increase during March, we will have DSO, freight days outstanding of around, let's say, 45 to 50 days. We book the cargo, the fixing, but we will get the liquidity those days later. I.e., it means that we will not get the liquidity in the same month of March. We will get that booking in April, as an example. In that sense, we build up a net working capital. If you add the increase in bunker prices, i.e., the effect on our bunker inventory, that in itself, those two in itself equate to around $30 million.
Kim Balle: Yeah. Hi, John. Thank you very much for that question. What I tried to communicate was that when we saw the market rate increase during March, we will have DSO, freight days outstanding of around, let's say, 45 to 50 days. We book the cargo, the fixing, but we will get the liquidity those days later. I.e., it means that we will not get the liquidity in the same month of March. We will get that booking in April, as an example. In that sense, we build up a net working capital. If you add the increase in bunker prices, i.e., the effect on our bunker inventory, that in itself, those two in itself equate to around $30 million.
Speaker #3: So, meaning, so we booked the cargo, the fixing, but we will get the liquidity those days later. So it means that we will not get liquidity in the same month of March.
Speaker #3: We will get that booking in April as an example. So in that sense, we build up a networking capital. And if you add the increase in bunker prices, i.e., the effect on our bunker inventory, that in itself, those two in itself equate to around $30 million.
Speaker #3: And that was why I added it to the earning or sorry, to the dividend we paid out. And if you add that, you will get to the 80 to 85 percent.
Kim Balle: That was why I added it to the dividend we paid out. If you add that, you will get to the 80% to 85%. It has nothing to do per se with the resales that we bought. It is just a reflection of the net working capital build-up when markets react as it did over 1 month and then over a quarter end where we report.
Kim Balle: That was why I added it to the dividend we paid out. If you add that, you will get to the 80% to 85%. It has nothing to do per se with the resales that we bought. It is just a reflection of the net working capital build-up when markets react as it did over 1 month and then over a quarter end where we report.
Speaker #3: So it has nothing to do per se with the resales that we bought. It is just a reflection of the networking capital buildup when markets react as it did over one month and then over a quarter end where we report.
Speaker #3: Does it make sense?
Kim Balle: Does it make-
Jonathan Chappell: Does that mean that there's a catch-up, so to speak, in Q2, assuming rates stabilize or maybe even pull back a little bit from the highs? Does that net working capital then work in your favor? Whereas Q2 or maybe some quarter in H2, the ratio is well over the 80% to kind of, make that timing even out.
John Chappell: Does that mean that there's a catch-up, so to speak, in Q2, assuming rates stabilize or maybe even pull back a little bit from the highs? Does that net working capital then work in your favor? Whereas Q2 or maybe some quarter in H2, the ratio is well over the 80% to kind of, make that timing even out.
Speaker #2: to speak, in the second quarter, assuming rates stabilize or maybe even pull back a little bit from the highs? Is that networking capital then work in your favor whereas the second quarter or maybe some quarter in the second half, the ratio is well over the 80% to kind of make that timing even out?
Speaker #3: Yeah, exactly. I think you just think about it. So say that things were steady now throughout the next quarter, you would get it back.
Kim Balle: Yeah, exactly. I think you should think about it. Say that things were steady now throughout the next quarter, you would get it back. Would it increase rates further? You would probably tie up a bit more on net working capital. Would it decrease? You would get it even more released.
Kim Balle: Yeah, exactly. I think you should think about it. Say that things were steady now throughout the next quarter, you would get it back. Would it increase rates further? You would probably tie up a bit more on net working capital. Would it decrease? You would get it even more released.
Speaker #3: Would it increase would rates increase further, you would probably tie up a bit more networking capital. Would it decrease, you would get it even more released.
Speaker #3: So that's sort of the difference I was thinking about it.
Kim Balle: Okay.
Kim Balle: Okay.
Kim Balle: That's all it is. How to think about it.
Kim Balle: That's all it is. How to think about it.
Jonathan Chappell: That's super important. Thank you for the clarification. And then Jacob, kind of strategic outlook. You talked about the opportunities that you have, you know, if there is a normalization. Also just thinking about the strategy. You obviously bought the resales. There's been a lot of time charter activity, especially in the bigger ships, LR2s. Are you still kind of fully exposed to the spot market, or do you think there's some opportunity that some of these elevated levels and maybe some charters and traders reaching out for some term to, you know, get some fixed cash flows for 1 to 5 years?
John Chappell: That's super important. Thank you for the clarification. And then Jacob, kind of strategic outlook. You talked about the opportunities that you have, you know, if there is a normalization. Also just thinking about the strategy. You obviously bought the resales. There's been a lot of time charter activity, especially in the bigger ships, LR2s. Are you still kind of fully exposed to the spot market, or do you think there's some opportunity that some of these elevated levels and maybe some charters and traders reaching out for some term to, you know, get some fixed cash flows for 1 to 5 years?
Speaker #2: Okay. That's super important. Thank you for the clarification. And then, Jacob, kind of strategic outlook. You talked about the opportunities that you have if there is a normalization also just thinking about the strategy.
Speaker #2: You obviously bought the resales there's been a lot of time charter activity especially in the bigger ships, LR2s. Are you still kind of fully exposed to the spot market, or do you think there's some opportunity that some of these elevated levels and maybe some charters and traders reaching out for some term to get some fixed cash flows for one to five years?
Speaker #3: Yep. So we had done a few charter outs one year, three year. We've done some forward cover for next year on derivatives when markets were a little hot here.
Jacob Meldgaard: Yeah. We have done a few charter outs, one year, three year. We've done some forward cover for next year on derivatives when markets were a little hot here. That's an efficient way of us to sort of capture value, protect the level, but still have, let's say, the operational flexibility on our assets. We've been doing that the way you describe it. Of course, it's a trade-off between, as you can see, the elevated rate environment that we have currently, and then the forward protection. We like to do a little of all in this in this environment.
Jacob Meldgaard: Yeah. We have done a few charter outs, one year, three year. We've done some forward cover for next year on derivatives when markets were a little hot here. That's an efficient way of us to sort of capture value, protect the level, but still have, let's say, the operational flexibility on our assets. We've been doing that the way you describe it. Of course, it's a trade-off between, as you can see, the elevated rate environment that we have currently, and then the forward protection. We like to do a little of all in this in this environment.
Speaker #3: That's an efficient way for us to sort of capture value, protect the level, but still have let's say the operational flexibility on our assets.
Speaker #3: So we've been doing that the way you describe it. Of course, it's a trade-off between as you can see the elevated rate environment that we have currently and then the forward projection.
Speaker #3: But what we like to do is a little of all in this environment. So, some a little shorter—one year—some a little longer—three years—and some somewhat forward, 2020 covering 2027 already now on some derivatives trades.
Jacob Meldgaard: Some a little shorter, one year, some a little longer, three years, and some somewhat forward, you know, covering 2027, already now on some derivatives trades.
Jacob Meldgaard: Some a little shorter, one year, some a little longer, three years, and some somewhat forward, you know, covering 2027, already now on some derivatives trades.
Jonathan Chappell: Okay. One last one for me. Sorry if this is too many. Obviously, the resales make sense in the framework of modernizing the fleet. You've been pretty active in some older vessel sales, and given the fact that older asset prices, at least on paper, seem to be even higher, it was maybe a little surprising that some of those resales weren't offset with older vessel disposition. Is that just a function of trying to maintain as much leverage to the market as possible, or is the liquidity in the secondhand market for older vessels maybe not as robust as it's been recently?
Speaker #2: Okay. One last one for me. Sorry if this is too many. Obviously, the resales make sense in the framework of modernizing the fleet. You've been pretty active in some older vessel sales.
John Chappell: Okay. One last one for me. Sorry if this is too many. Obviously, the resales make sense in the framework of modernizing the fleet. You've been pretty active in some older vessel sales, and given the fact that older asset prices, at least on paper, seem to be even higher, it was maybe a little surprising that some of those resales weren't offset with older vessel disposition. Is that just a function of trying to maintain as much leverage to the market as possible, or is the liquidity in the secondhand market for older vessels maybe not as robust as it's been recently?
Speaker #2: And given the fact that older asset prices at least on paper seem to be even higher, it was maybe a little surprising that some of those resales weren't offset with older vessel disposition.
Speaker #2: So is that just a function of trying to maintain as much leverage to the market as possible, or is the liquidity in the secondhand market for older vessels maybe not as robust as it's been recently?
Speaker #3: Oh, I think definitely it's robust. But we've simply just done—yeah, done simple math. We feel that our balance sheet is in pristine shape, as Kim alluded to.
Kim Balle: I think definitely it's robust. We've simply just done, yeah, done simple math. We feel that our balance sheet is in pristine shape, as Kim alluded to. I think we have the opinion that the asset base we have longevity and optionality and also the way the market behaves with quite high volatility, it means that that can be attractive earnings in, yeah, in many scenarios that we look at going forward. I think it's gonna be volatile and choppy, you know, in many ways. We've seen that here over the Q1 and Q2. I think that will continue. Fundamentally, we believe that this is offering a lot of opportunity for our platform.
Kim Balle: I think definitely it's robust. We've simply just done, yeah, done simple math. We feel that our balance sheet is in pristine shape, as Kim alluded to. I think we have the opinion that the asset base we have longevity and optionality and also the way the market behaves with quite high volatility, it means that that can be attractive earnings in, yeah, in many scenarios that we look at going forward. I think it's gonna be volatile and choppy, you know, in many ways. We've seen that here over the Q1 and Q2. I think that will continue. Fundamentally, we believe that this is offering a lot of opportunity for our platform.
Speaker #3: So I think we are of the opinion that the asset base we have have longevity and optionality and also the way the market behaves with quite high volatility it means that there can be attractive earnings in yeah, in many scenarios that we look at going forward.
Speaker #3: I think it's going to be volatile and chubby. In many ways, we've seen that here over the first and second quarter. I think that will continue but fundamentally we believe that this is offering a lot of a lot of opportunity for our platform.
Speaker #3: But we do evaluate exactly as you described. John. What is the better sort of net present value that we will get selling an asset or keeping it with the rate environment that we predict?
Kim Balle: We do evaluate exactly as you described, John, you know, what is the better, sort of, net present value that we will get, selling an asset or keeping it, with the rate environment that we predict.
Kim Balle: We do evaluate exactly as you described, John, you know, what is the better, sort of, net present value that we will get, selling an asset or keeping it, with the rate environment that we predict.
Jonathan Chappell: Understood. Thanks, Jacob. Thanks, Kim.
John Chappell: Understood. Thanks, Jacob. Thanks, Kim.
Speaker #2: Understood. Thanks, Jacob. Thanks, Kim.
Jacob Meldgaard: Busy. Thank you. Yeah.
Jacob Meldgaard: Busy. Thank you. Yeah.
Speaker #3: We'll see. But thanks, John. Yeah.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Road Morcado with Clarkson Securities. Your line is now open.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Frode Mørkedal with Clarksons Securities. Your line is now open.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Frode Mørkedal with Clarksons Securities. Your line is now open.
Speaker #4: Thank you. Hey, guys. I wanted to follow up on the acquisition of the six MRs. I'm not sure if you talked about the price maybe you could talk about the price level versus let's say older ships, right?
Frode Mørkedal: Thank you. Hey, guys. I wanted to follow up on the acquisition of the 6 MRs. I am not sure if you talked about the price. You know, maybe you could talk about the price level versus, let's say, older ships, right? That's probably how you thought about it. Resale value in 2027 versus somewhat older. Yeah, that's it.
Frode Mørkedal: Thank you. Hey, guys. I wanted to follow up on the acquisition of the 6 MRs. I am not sure if you talked about the price. You know, maybe you could talk about the price level versus, let's say, older ships, right? That's probably how you thought about it. Resale value in 2027 versus somewhat older. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker #4: That's probably how you thought about it. Resale value in terms of 27 versus somewhat older. And yeah, that's it.
Jacob Meldgaard: way that we have come to the decision of the purchase of the 6 resale MRs is exactly as you point to that we evaluate what is the earning that we would be adding on various assets, you know, on various age profiles in the coming years. We also compare it. Basically, you could say there are 3 buckets that you could invest in if you are looking to make an investment. It would be existing ships on the water with, you know, whatever age profile that you could dream up. It would be resales with relatively early delivery, or it would be that you go to a shipyard and do complete new contracts, so new building contracts.
Jacob Meldgaard: Way that we have come to the decision of the purchase of the 6 resale MRs is exactly as you point to that we evaluate what is the earning that we would be adding on various assets, you know, on various age profiles in the coming years. We also compare it. Basically, you could say there are 3 buckets that you could invest in if you are looking to make an investment. It would be existing ships on the water with, you know, whatever age profile that you could dream up. It would be resales with relatively early delivery, or it would be that you go to a shipyard and do complete new contracts, so new building contracts.
Speaker #3: The way that we have come to the decision of the purchase of the six resale MRs is exactly as you point to that we evaluate what is the earning that we will be having on various assets and various age profiles in the coming years.
Speaker #3: We then also compare it. Maybe you could say that there are three buckets that you could invest in if you are looking to make an investment.
Speaker #3: It would be existing ships, underwater, with whatever age profile that you could dream up. It would be resales with relatively early delivery or it would be that you go to a shipyard and do complete new contracts.
Speaker #3: So new building contracts. And right now, what we found was that we did find a kind of a gap where we saw the market being attractive from the pricing and timing of the delivery of these resales being better than paying let's say the same price for a deferred delivery out in three years out compared to having a resale three quarters out was just simply a better more attractive solution for us.
Jacob Meldgaard: Right now, what we found was that we did find, kind of a gap where we saw the market being attractive from the pricing and timing of the delivery of these resales being better than paying, let's say, the same price for a deferred delivery, out in 3 years out compared to having a resale 3 quarters out, was just simply a better, more attractive solution for us, and also better than identifying vessels on the water where prices, as also John pointed to, have been creeping up as of late. It's simple math that has driven us to that this price point and delivery point is, in our opinion, the better of the 3 choices if you are looking at it.
Jacob Meldgaard: Right now, what we found was that we did find, kind of a gap where we saw the market being attractive from the pricing and timing of the delivery of these resales being better than paying, let's say, the same price for a deferred delivery, out in 3 years out compared to having a resale 3 quarters out, was just simply a better, more attractive solution for us, and also better than identifying vessels on the water where prices, as also John pointed to, have been creeping up as of late. It's simple math that has driven us to that this price point and delivery point is, in our opinion, the better of the 3 choices if you are looking at it.
Speaker #3: And also better than identifying vessels underwater where prices as also Jonathan pointed to have been creeping up as of late. So it's simple math that has driven us to that this price point and delivery point is in our opinion the better of the three choices if you are looking at it.
Jacob Meldgaard: We found that this one also meets our return criteria for making the risk-adjusted return that we are looking for in any of our investments.
Speaker #3: And we found that this one also meets our return criteria for making the risk-adjusted return that we are looking for in any of our investments.
Jacob Meldgaard: We found that this one also meets our return criteria for making the risk-adjusted return that we are looking for in any of our investments.
Speaker #5: Yeah. Interesting. What kind of risk just returns are you talking about? I mean, I understand that on your comments here, you basically are acquiring these ships, let's say, probably less than 50 million per ship.
Frode Mørkedal: Yeah, interesting. What kind of risk-adjusted returns are you talking about? I mean, I understand it on your comments here, you basically are acquiring these ships at, say, probably less than $50 million, right, per ship, and then a 5-year-old ship, today is probably a similar level, right? You're arguing that you get more modern, better ships at the same price, something like that, right? Yeah. Maybe you could tie it into the required MR rate to get like a decent return on it.
Frode Mørkedal: Yeah, interesting. What kind of risk-adjusted returns are you talking about? I mean, I understand it on your comments here, you basically are acquiring these ships at, say, probably less than $50 million, right, per ship, and then a 5-year-old ship, today is probably a similar level, right? You're arguing that you get more modern, better ships at the same price, something like that, right? Yeah. Maybe you could tie it into the required MR rate to get like a decent return on it.
Speaker #5: And then a five-year-old ship today is probably a similar level, right? So you're arguing that you get more modern, better ships, but the same price.
Speaker #5: Something like that, right? Yeah. And then maybe you could tie it into the required MR rate to get a decent return on it.
Speaker #3: Sure. Yeah. So I mean, we don't disclose our forward thinking, but the way we model is exactly the way you more or less describe it.
Jacob Meldgaard: Sure, yeah. I mean, we don't disclose our forward thinking, but the way we model is exactly the way you more or less describe it. We would of course put in, let's say financing, our operating cost, et cetera. At the end of the day, we would then compare with our earning potential. I think to say that in our modeling, we probably look about 5 years out, then we'll look at sort of a residual risk basis, exactly what you also describe, what would be a 5-year-old residual sort of market value at that point in time. What I then describe is that in the hurdle on that return on that invested capital is of course internal for us.
Jacob Meldgaard: Sure, yeah. I mean, we don't disclose our forward thinking, but the way we model is exactly the way you more or less describe it. We would of course put in, let's say financing, our operating cost, et cetera. At the end of the day, we would then compare with our earning potential. I think to say that in our modeling, we probably look about 5 years out, then we'll look at sort of a residual risk basis, exactly what you also describe, what would be a 5-year-old residual sort of market value at that point in time. What I then describe is that in the hurdle on that return on that invested capital is of course internal for us.
Speaker #3: We would, of course, put in yeah, let's say financing, our operating cost, etc., and at the end of the day, we would then compare with our earning potential.
Speaker #3: And I think, to say that in our modeling, we probably look at about five years out, and then we'll look at sort of a residual risk basis—exactly what you also describe—what would be a five-year-old residual sort of market value at that point in time.
Speaker #3: And what I then described is that in the hurdle on that return on that invested capital, it's, of course, internal for us, but this way of making the investment exceeds our sort of hurdle for believing that that's a good investment.
Jacob Meldgaard: This way of making the investment exceeds our sort of hurdle for believing that that's a good investment. We think it's a good investment for our shareholders, and that is an asset that would be appreciated obviously by our customers at the time.
Jacob Meldgaard: This way of making the investment exceeds our sort of hurdle for believing that that's a good investment. We think it's a good investment for our shareholders, and that is an asset that would be appreciated obviously by our customers at the time.
Speaker #3: So we think it's a good investment for our shareholders and that it's an asset that would be appreciated, obviously, by our customers at the time.
Speaker #5: Yeah. Understood. Yeah. You probably have like a $50 million investment. You probably only need like 23,000 per day over time to get like a 10 to 12 percent return or something like that, right?
Frode Mørkedal: Understood. You probably have like a $50 million investment. You probably only need about $23,000 per day over time to get like a 10% to 12% return or something like that, right? Anyway, shifting gears on the market, I wanted to hear your thoughts on the drivers here. Clearly, it's been very, very strong start to Q2, right? Maybe you could talk a little bit about the trade flow adjustments, right? We've seen refineries closing down obviously in the Middle East, but also in Asia. Now US Gulf has come up and ramped up exports and clearly adding to ton-miles. Again, at the same time, you're seeing freight rates come off the boil, so to speak, recently.
Frode Mørkedal: Understood. You probably have like a $50 million investment. You probably only need about $23,000 per day over time to get like a 10% to 12% return or something like that, right? Anyway, shifting gears on the market, I wanted to hear your thoughts on the drivers here. Clearly, it's been very, very strong start to Q2, right? Maybe you could talk a little bit about the trade flow adjustments, right? We've seen refineries closing down obviously in the Middle East, but also in Asia. Now US Gulf has come up and ramped up exports and clearly adding to ton-miles. Again, at the same time, you're seeing freight rates come off the boil, so to speak, recently.
Speaker #5: Anyway, shifting gears on the market, I wanted to hear your thoughts on the drivers here. Clearly, it's been very strong start to Q2, right?
Speaker #5: Maybe you could talk a little bit about the trade flow adjustments, right? So you've seen refineries closing down, obviously, in the Middle East, but also in Asia.
Speaker #5: And now yield gulls have come up and ramped up. Exports and clearly adding to ton miles. But then again, at the same time, you see in freight rates come off the boil, so to speak, recently.
Speaker #5: Maybe you could talk a bit about how you think rates will develop now in the short term. Are you do you think there's more normalization to rates?
Frode Mørkedal: Maybe you could talk a little bit about how you think rates will develop now in the short term. Do you think, like, there's more normalization to rates?
Frode Mørkedal: Maybe you could talk a little bit about how you think rates will develop now in the short term. Do you think, like, there's more normalization to rates?
Frode Mørkedal: Could, I say, start to find a bottom now?
Speaker #5: Or could it, let's say, plateau final or bottom now?
Frode Mørkedal: Could, I say, start to find a bottom now?
Speaker #3: Yeah. Okay. So as you point to, then this sort of dislocation of the sourcing for many buyers has led to longer-term miles. We've already discussed that.
Jacob Meldgaard: Yeah. Okay. As you point to, then this sort of dislocation of the sourcing for many buyers had led to longer term. We've already discussed that. That also translated into higher margins for our customers. It translated into higher freight rates for ourselves and the ecosystem of transportation. Just recently, we've seen that the I think our freight rate is driven by our customers and basically by how the arbitrages work. You had a period where the arbitrage west to east was wide open, obviously leading to that when the arb is open, that customers in, let's say, in Asia or Australia, East Africa, you know, these areas that would normally be looking towards the Middle East for their supply, they were beating up cargoes that were available in the Western Hemisphere.
Jacob Meldgaard: Yeah. Okay. As you point to, then this sort of dislocation of the sourcing for many buyers had led to longer term. We've already discussed that. That also translated into higher margins for our customers. It translated into higher freight rates for ourselves and the ecosystem of transportation. Just recently, we've seen that the I think our freight rate is driven by our customers and basically by how the arbitrages work. You had a period where the arbitrage west to east was wide open, obviously leading to that when the arb is open, that customers in, let's say, in Asia or Australia, East Africa, you know, these areas that would normally be looking towards the Middle East for their supply, they were beating up cargoes that were available in the Western Hemisphere.
Speaker #3: That also translated into higher margins for our customers. It translated into higher freight rates for ourselves and the ecosystem of transportation. And just recently, we've seen that the I think our freight rate is driven by our customers and basically by how the arbitrage is working.
Speaker #3: And you had a period where the arbitrage West to East was wide open, obviously leading to that. When the ARP is open, customers in, let's say, Asia or Australia, East Africa—these areas that would normally be looking towards the Middle East for their supply—they were bidding up cargoes that were available in the Western Hemisphere.
Speaker #3: This has come off a little. Right now, there's been a period where our understanding is that the end users have been a little more reluctant.
Jacob Meldgaard: This has come off a little. Right now there's been a period where our understanding is that the end users have been a little more reluctant. I think they've been looking at the situation in the Strait of Hormuz and sort of valuing, hey, you know, if we get cargo out there, it's gonna come faster and it's gonna come cheaper. Maybe, you know, let's just cool the jets a little. Margins have come in, less attractive, of course, then volumes come down because the sellers of the product will then have also competing areas, more local areas that will also make a call on exactly the same tons of products. I think one of two would happen in the near term.
Jacob Meldgaard: This has come off a little. Right now there's been a period where our understanding is that the end users have been a little more reluctant. I think they've been looking at the situation in the Strait of Hormuz and sort of valuing, hey, you know, if we get cargo out there, it's gonna come faster and it's gonna come cheaper. Maybe, you know, let's just cool the jets a little. Margins have come in, less attractive, of course, then volumes come down because the sellers of the product will then have also competing areas, more local areas that will also make a call on exactly the same tons of products. I think one of two would happen in the near term.
Speaker #3: I think they've been looking at the situation in the Strait of Amuz and sort of valuing, "Hey, if we get cargo out there, it's going to come faster and it's going to come cheaper.
Speaker #3: So maybe let's just cool the jets a little." So margins have come in. Less attractive. And of course, then volumes come down because the sellers of the product will then have also competing areas, more local areas.
Speaker #3: That will also make a call on exactly the same tons of products. Let's see what I think one of two would happen in the near term.
Speaker #3: Either the Strait of Amuz actually opens and cargo volumes will increase and flow through the strait due to that. If it doesn't, I think the call on products from the Western Hemisphere to the Eastern Hemisphere will yet again increase.
Jacob Meldgaard: Either the Strait of Hormuz actually opens, and cargo volumes will increase and flow through the strait due to that. If it doesn't, I think the call on products from the Western Hemisphere to the Eastern Hemisphere will yet again increase. Margins will widen again, and you'll see that straight. That is how I think that's the most likely that one of these two scenarios play out. The current where there's no, let's say, call on products from either Strait of Hormuz because it's impossible or from the west because the margins are not, how do I say, sufficiently high, I don't think that is a long-term trend.
Jacob Meldgaard: Either the Strait of Hormuz actually opens, and cargo volumes will increase and flow through the strait due to that. If it doesn't, I think the call on products from the Western Hemisphere to the Eastern Hemisphere will yet again increase. Margins will widen again, and you'll see that straight. That is how I think that's the most likely that one of these two scenarios play out. The current where there's no, let's say, call on products from either Strait of Hormuz because it's impossible or from the west because the margins are not, how do I say, sufficiently high, I don't think that is a long-term trend.
Speaker #3: Margins will widen again. And you'll see that straight. That is how I think that's the most likely that one of these two scenarios play out.
Speaker #3: The current where there's no let's say call on products from either Strait of Amuz because it's impossible, or from the west because the margins are not how do I say, sufficiently high.
Speaker #3: I don't think that is a long-term trend.
Speaker #5: Okay. Interesting. Thanks for the good color. That's it for me.
Frode Mørkedal: Okay. Interesting. Thanks for the good color. That's it for me.
Frode Mørkedal: Okay. Interesting. Thanks for the good color. That's it for me.
Speaker #3: Thank you very much. Good to speak through.
Jacob Meldgaard: Thank you very much. Good to speak to you.
Jacob Meldgaard: Thank you very much. Good to speak to you.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Bendik Folden from Dansk Bank. Your line is now open.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Bendik Folden from DNB Bank. Your line is now open.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Bendik Folden from DNB Bank. Your line is now open.
Bendik Folden Nyttingnes: Yes. Thank you. I'll just turn to your guidance for Q2. Obviously, extremely strong, but I wanna know if there's any effects we should be aware of here, sort of, unpaid balances, anything like that might sort of, mess up our modeling on the quarter.
Bendik Folden: Yes. Thank you. I'll just turn to your guidance for Q2. Obviously, extremely strong, but I wanna know if there's any effects we should be aware of here, sort of, unpaid balances, anything like that might sort of, mess up our modeling on the quarter.
Speaker #5: Yes. Thank you. I'll just turn to your guidance for the second quarter. Obviously, extremely strong. But I want to know if there's any effects we should be aware of here.
Speaker #5: Sort of unpaid balance days, anything like that that might sort of mess up our modeling on the quarter.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Born faster straight. We use the methodology here. So we take Q1 and we take the covers that we have for Q2. And then we have the six days for as I said to the forward market to take that as the benchmark.
Kim Balle: Yeah. Form foster stress. We use the methodology here. We take Q1, and we take the coverage that we have for Q2.
Kim Balle: Yeah. Form foster stress. We use the methodology here. We take Q1, and we take the coverage that we have for Q2.
Kim Balle: Then we have the days for market, as I said, to the forward market to take that as the benchmark. You should not sort of see it necessarily as this is how we foresee the markets month by month. We very much use it on the forward freight markets to see that we observe the market. Of course, we have the Q2, then the offset on 6 days is based on. I hope that clarifies it. It's a guidance that we are obliged to present an update, and we have to find this methodology. Perhaps I should add that we do that, then we stress it with a plus minus TC around that.
Kim Balle: Then we have the days for market, as I said, to the forward market to take that as the benchmark. You should not sort of see it necessarily as this is how we foresee the markets month by month. We very much use it on the forward freight markets to see that we observe the market. Of course, we have the Q2, then the offset on 6 days is based on. I hope that clarifies it. It's a guidance that we are obliged to present an update, and we have to find this methodology. Perhaps I should add that we do that, then we stress it with a plus minus TC around that.
Speaker #3: So you should not sort of see it necessarily as this is how we foresee the markets month by month. We very much use it on the forward trade markets.
Speaker #3: You can see that we observe the market. Of course, we have the Q1, Q2, but then the on six days is based on. I hope that clarifies it.
Speaker #3: So it's a guidance that we are obliged to present and update and we have to find this methodology and perhaps I should add that we do that and then we stress it with a plus minus TC around that for this quarter.
Kim Balle: For this quarter is ±$7,500. It's very methodology of sort of mathematically easy to both explain and understand, but that's how we do it. Data-sim model for that. Hope it makes sense.
Kim Balle: For this quarter is ±$7,500. It's very methodology of sort of mathematically easy to both explain and understand, but that's how we do it. Data-sim model for that. Hope it makes sense.
Speaker #3: It's plus minus 7,500. It's very methodology of sort of mathematically easy to both explain and understand, but that's how we do it. So plain and simple model for that.
Speaker #3: Hope it makes sense.
Bendik Folden Nyttingnes: For the Q2 specifically, utilization-wise, has it been like, some unpaid balance, balancing or something like that?
Speaker #5: For the second quarter specifically, utilization-wise, has it been some unpaid balancing or something like that?
Bendik Folden: For the Q2 specifically, utilization-wise, has it been like, some unpaid balance, balancing or something like that?
Speaker #3: Yeah, so there's nothing that distracts the numbers, as you point to, Bendik. So the numbers for Q2 include ballast when and if a vessel has had to have a longer ballast prior to the employment.
Kim Balle: Yeah. There's nothing that distracts the numbers that as you point to Bendik. The numbers for Q2 includes balance when and if a vessel has had to have a longer balance prior to the employment. All of our numbers includes the previous just like included in the daily.
Kim Balle: Yeah. There's nothing that distracts the numbers that as you point to Bendik. The numbers for Q2 includes balance when and if a vessel has had to have a longer balance prior to the employment. All of our numbers includes the previous just like included in the daily.
Speaker #3: So all of our numbers include the previous balanced leg, included in the daily yeah.
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Bendik Folden Nyttingnes: Okay. Thank you.
Bendik Folden: Okay. Thank you.
Speaker #3: You're welcome.
Kim Balle: You're welcome.
Kim Balle: You're welcome.
Operator: There are no further questions. I will now turn the call back over to Jacob for closing remarks.
Operator: There are no further questions. I will now turn the call back over to Jacob for closing remarks.
Speaker #1: There are no further questions. I will now turn the call back over to Jacob for closing remarks.
Speaker #3: Well, thank you very much. There is been very good questions. Thanks for listening in. And this ends the Q1 2026 report for Tom. Thank you.
Jacob Meldgaard: Well, thank you very much. That has been very good questions. Thanks for listening in. This ends the Q1 2026 report for TORM. Thank you.
Jacob Meldgaard: Well, thank you very much. That has been very good questions. Thanks for listening in. This ends the Q1 2026 report for TORM. Thank you.
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