Q2 2026 Rottneros AB (publ) Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Hello, and welcome to today's broadcast with Rottneros, who will present their financial report for the second quarter of 2026. With us, we have the CEO, Pär Ove Byurbom, and CFO, Monica Patsanen.
Moderator: Hello, welcome to today's broadcast with Rottneros, who will be presenting their financial report for Q2 2026. With us, we have the CEO, Per Bjurbom, and CFO, Monica Pasanen. If you wish to ask questions, you can do so via the forum found to the right of the broadcast. If you're calling in and would like to ask a question, press star 9 to raise your hand and star 6 to activate your audio once you've been given the word. With that said, I hand it over to you guys. Go ahead and present.
Operator: Hello, welcome to today's broadcast with Rottneros, who will be presenting their financial report for Q2 2026. With us, we have the CEO, Per Bjurbom, and CFO, Monica Pasanen. If you wish to ask questions, you can do so via the forum found to the right of the broadcast. If you're calling in and would like to ask a question, press star 9 to raise your hand and star 6 to activate your audio once you've been given the word. With that said, I hand it over to you guys. Go ahead and present.
Speaker #1: If you wish to ask questions, you can do so via the form found to the right of the broadcast. If you call in and would like to ask a question, press star 9 to raise your hand and star 6 to activate your audio once you've been given the word.
Speaker #1: And with that said, I hand it over to you guys. Go ahead and present.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Eliot. And I would like to wish you all welcome to this Q2 report for Rottneros. Myself, Pär Byurbom, CEO. I will start with a presentation of the highlights and the market, and then I will turn the word over to Monica, who will present the financials. Then I will wrap up at the end, and we are open for Q&As.
Per Bjurbom: Thank you, Elliot, I would like to wish you all welcome to this Q2 report for Rottneros. Myself, Per Bjurbom, CEO, I will start to make a presentation of the highlights and the markets, then I will turn the word over to Monica, who will present the financials, then I will wrap up at the end, then we are open for Q&As. We move on to the highlights for Q2, as you may be all aware of, we are coming out of a streak of quarters where we have been on the negative side on a -EBITDA number, we are very pleased to see that we are showing up an EBITDA of SEK 31 million. Also a theme during the quarters is the wood pricing.
Per Bjurbom: Thank you, Elliot, I would like to wish you all welcome to this Q2 report for Rottneros. Myself, Per Bjurbom, CEO, I will start to make a presentation of the highlights and the markets, then I will turn the word over to Monica, who will present the financials, then I will wrap up at the end, then we are open for Q&As. We move on to the highlights for Q2, as you may be all aware of, we are coming out of a streak of quarters where we have been on the negative side on a -EBITDA number, we are very pleased to see that we are showing up an EBITDA of SEK 31 million. Also a theme during the quarters is the wood pricing.
Speaker #2: So we move on to the highlights for Q2, and as you maybe all are aware, we are coming out of a streak of quarters where we have been on the negative side on the EBITDA number, and we are very pleased to see that we are showing an EBITDA of SEK 31 million.
Speaker #2: Also, a theme during the quarters is wood pricing. The wood pricing has come down, as we have anticipated in earlier quarters, and we are happy to see that materialize in our numbers.
Per Bjurbom: Wood pricing has come down as we have anticipated earlier quarters, we are happy to see that materialize in our numbers. We also can see that in our niches where we are prioritizing our production, we can also see a stable demand. We continue within the company to scrutinize costs, we are also happy to see that that is giving results. We are happy on the cost development of the company this quarter. Please, next slide. For you, so maybe it's new to Rottneros, just some short words about the company. Producer of softwood pulp for demanding customers when it comes to purity and strength. We are located here in central Sweden. We also have a joint venture in Poland with Arctic Paper, producing packaging.
Per Bjurbom: Wood pricing has come down as we have anticipated earlier quarters, we are happy to see that materialize in our numbers. We also can see that in our niches where we are prioritizing our production, we can also see a stable demand. We continue within the company to scrutinize costs, we are also happy to see that that is giving results. We are happy on the cost development of the company this quarter. Please, next slide. For you, so maybe it's new to Rottneros, just some short words about the company. Producer of softwood pulp for demanding customers when it comes to purity and strength. We are located here in central Sweden. We also have a joint venture in Poland with Arctic Paper, producing packaging.
Speaker #2: We also can see that in our niches where we are prioritizing our production, we can also see a stable demand. And we continue within the company to scrutinize cost and we are also happy to see that that is giving results.
Speaker #2: So, we are happy with the cost development of the company this quarter. Please, next slide. And for those of you who may be new to Rottneros, just a few short words about the company.
Speaker #2: So, we are a producer of softwood pulp, serving demand and customers when it comes to purity and strength. We are located here in central Sweden. We also have a joint venture in Poland with Arctic Paper, producing packaging.
Speaker #2: And if you look at our rolling 12-month figures, we have a net turnover of about SEK 2.3 million, and we are running at 266 employees. Production volume is 328,000 tons, and, overall, 79% of volumes go into these prioritized niches.
Per Bjurbom: If you look on our rolling 12-month figures, we have a net turnover of about SEK 2.3 billion, we are running at 266 employees, production volume 328,000 tons. Of our volumes, 79% goes into these prioritized niches. Please, next. Let's take a look then at what have happened in the market. If you start with pricing, you can see that basically it's been moving sideways. It is affected by the currency. We have enjoyed a little bit weaker Swedish crown during the last quarter. At least they're not going down, so they're moving sideways, and I think we should be happy about that. If you look on the producer stock of the bleached softwood pulp around the world, you can see that they are on 46 days, that is a number that is on the high side.
Per Bjurbom: If you look on our rolling 12-month figures, we have a net turnover of about SEK 2.3 billion, we are running at 266 employees, production volume 328,000 tons. Of our volumes, 79% goes into these prioritized niches. Please, next. Let's take a look then at what have happened in the market. If you start with pricing, you can see that basically it's been moving sideways. It is affected by the currency. We have enjoyed a little bit weaker Swedish crown during the last quarter. At least they're not going down, so they're moving sideways, and I think we should be happy about that. If you look on the producer stock of the bleached softwood pulp around the world, you can see that they are on 46 days, that is a number that is on the high side.
Speaker #2: Please, next. Then let's take a look at what has happened in the market. And if we start with pricing, we can see that basically it's been moving sideways.
Speaker #2: It is affected by the currency. We have enjoyed a little bit weaker Swedish crown during the last quarter. And maybe, at least, we can say it's not going down.
Speaker #2: So they’re moving sideways, and I think we should be happy about that. If you look at the producer stock of each softwood pulp around the world, you can see that they are at 46 days.
Speaker #2: And that is a number that is on the high side. So that also shows that there's plenty of pulp out there that is available for our customers.
Per Bjurbom: That also shows that there's plenty of pulp out there that is available for our customers. Please, next slide. If you then look what is happening in our main market, Europe, production of different paper grades, we can see that here we have a decline. In 2025, the decline was 2.5%, and for the first 4 months here in 2026, the decline is continuing. Containerboard has a slightly positive effect, and that is the biggest product area, so that has a huge impact on the averaging of this. Otherwise, you can see that the paper production in Europe is declining. Here we can also see that there is, say, paper and board coming in from other places in the world, especially from Asia. Next slide.
Per Bjurbom: That also shows that there's plenty of pulp out there that is available for our customers. Please, next slide. If you then look what is happening in our main market, Europe, production of different paper grades, we can see that here we have a decline. In 2025, the decline was 2.5%, and for the first 4 months here in 2026, the decline is continuing. Containerboard has a slightly positive effect, and that is the biggest product area, so that has a huge impact on the averaging of this. Otherwise, you can see that the paper production in Europe is declining. Here we can also see that there is, say, paper and board coming in from other places in the world, especially from Asia. Next slide.
Speaker #2: Please, next slide. And then, if you look at what is happening in our main market, Europe, regarding the production of different paper grades, we can see that there is a decline.
Speaker #2: In 2025, the decline was 2.5%, and for the first four months here in 2026, the decline is continuing. Containerboard has a slightly positive effect, and that is the biggest product area, so that has a huge impact on the averaging of this.
Speaker #2: But otherwise, you can see that paper production in Europe is declining. And here, we can also see that there is, say, paper and board coming in from other places in the world, especially from Asia.
Speaker #2: Next slide. And then, if you take a look at deliveries of chemical pulp on a global basis, you can see that China—you can start with a circle here on the left side.
Per Bjurbom: If you take a look on deliveries of chemical pulp on a global basis, you can see that China, if you start with a circle here on the left side, you can see that 41% of the consumption is the deliveries are made to China. What is happening in China has a huge impact on this market. If you look on the right here, we can see that China is still growing consumption. Europe is lagging, North America is lagging, and Latin America is on the poor. Next slide. If you look on where we are doing our business, we have 69% of our business in Europe, 24% in Asia, and 7% in North America. We consider, of course, Europe is our home market.
Per Bjurbom: If you take a look on deliveries of chemical pulp on a global basis, you can see that China, if you start with a circle here on the left side, you can see that 41% of the consumption is the deliveries are made to China. What is happening in China has a huge impact on this market. If you look on the right here, we can see that China is still growing consumption. Europe is lagging, North America is lagging, and Latin America is on the poor. Next slide. If you look on where we are doing our business, we have 69% of our business in Europe, 24% in Asia, and 7% in North America. We consider, of course, Europe is our home market.
Speaker #2: You can see that 41% of the consumption is—the deliveries are made to China. So, what is happening in China has a huge impact on this market.
Speaker #2: And then if you look on the right here, we can see that China is still growing consumption. Europe is lagging, and North America is lagging. Latin America is on par.
Speaker #2: So, next slide. If you look at where we are doing our business, we have 69% of our business in Europe, 24% in Asia, and 7% in North America.
Speaker #2: So we consider, of course, Europe as our home market. And when you're dealing with this kind of product, it's always important to deliver them as close to home as possible because it's easier to have good service for customers and make good deliveries and good planning together with the customers.
Per Bjurbom: When you're dealing with this kind of product, it's always important to deliver them as so close to home as possible, because it's easier to have a good service customers and make good deliveries and good planning together with the customers. If you then remember that the consumption here has gone down, the production has gone down with 1.7%. We have increased our share in volume by 2.8% in the past H1. We have a strong position there in the wood markets. With that, I leave it over to Monica.
Per Bjurbom: When you're dealing with this kind of product, it's always important to deliver them as so close to home as possible, because it's easier to have a good service customers and make good deliveries and good planning together with the customers. If you then remember that the consumption here has gone down, the production has gone down with 1.7%. We have increased our share in volume by 2.8% in the past H1. We have a strong position there in the wood markets. With that, I leave it over to Monica.
Speaker #2: And if you then remember that the consumption here has gone down, the production has gone down by 1.7%. We have increased our share in volume.
Speaker #2: By 2.8% in the first half. So we have a strong position here in the European market. With that, I’ll hand it over to Monica.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Pat. As Pat already concluded, we have a quarter where we're posting a positive EBITDA. What we see here is the bridge from the second quarter last year, when it was minus 15, to plus 31 this quarter.
Monica Pasanen: Thank you, Per. As Per already concluded, we have a quarter where we're posting a positive EBITDA. What we see here is the bridge from Q2 last year when it was SEK -15 to SEK +31 this Q2. If you remember the price slides that we saw earlier, there was a big decline in prices throughout 2025, but they were still on a fairly high level during Q2 compared to where we are now. Much is due to pricing. The NBSK price in dollars is 9% down quarter to this year compared to last year, but also the dollar has weakened in this period by 3%. The big impact on plus comes from variable costs, where really the cost of wood is the major cost item or major improvement. They were at the peak during spring 2025 and have continued coming down since then.
Monica Pasanen: Thank you, Per. As Per already concluded, we have a quarter where we're posting a positive EBITDA. What we see here is the bridge from Q2 last year when it was SEK -15 to SEK +31 this Q2. If you remember the price slides that we saw earlier, there was a big decline in prices throughout 2025, but they were still on a fairly high level during Q2 compared to where we are now. Much is due to pricing. The NBSK price in dollars is 9% down quarter to this year compared to last year, but also the dollar has weakened in this period by 3%. The big impact on plus comes from variable costs, where really the cost of wood is the major cost item or major improvement. They were at the peak during spring 2025 and have continued coming down since then.
Speaker #3: But if you remember the price slides that we saw earlier, there was a big decline in prices throughout 2025, but they were still at a fairly high level during the second quarter compared to where we are now.
Speaker #3: Much is due to pricing. The NBSK price in dollars is 9% down quarter to this year compared to last year, but also the dollar has weakened in this period by 3%.
Speaker #3: But the big impact and plus comes from variable cost, where really the cost of wood is the major cost item or major improvement. They were at the peak during spring 2015—2025, sorry—and have continued coming down since then.
Speaker #3: We also see some positive effects from lower costs for chemicals and fuels. In the beginning of 2025, we saw that the market was going in the wrong direction, and our profitability was low.
Monica Pasanen: We also see some positive effects from lower costs for chemicals and fuels. In the beginning of 2025, we saw that the market was going in the wrong direction and our profitability was low. We initiated a savings program that was targeted at fixed costs and especially at personnel. We are now 266, as we heard earlier, down from 288 a year ago. We also targeted all other fixed costs. The other two big items are maintenance and also bought services, and we have been able to decrease also in the cost in these areas. The item other here is the majority or half of it comes from that we sold emission rights last year. This year so far, we haven't sold any emission rights. That is, of course, a negative in the comparison.
Monica Pasanen: We also see some positive effects from lower costs for chemicals and fuels. In the beginning of 2025, we saw that the market was going in the wrong direction and our profitability was low. We initiated a savings program that was targeted at fixed costs and especially at personnel. We are now 266, as we heard earlier, down from 288 a year ago. We also targeted all other fixed costs. The other two big items are maintenance and also bought services, and we have been able to decrease also in the cost in these areas. The item other here is the majority or half of it comes from that we sold emission rights last year. This year so far, we haven't sold any emission rights. That is, of course, a negative in the comparison.
Speaker #3: We initiated a savings program that was targeted at fixed costs, and especially at personnel. We are now at 266, as we heard earlier, down from 288 a year ago.
Speaker #3: But we also targeted all other fixed costs. The other two big items are maintenance and also bought services. And we have been able to decrease costs in these areas as well.
Speaker #3: The item 'Other' here, the majority or half of it comes from the fact that we sold emission rights last year. This year, so far, we haven't sold any emission rights.
Speaker #3: So that is, of course, a negative in the comparison. We also see lower sales prices on our by-products. That goes partly together with the general fuel costs.
Monica Pasanen: We also see lower sales prices on our byproducts. That goes partly together with the general fuel costs. If we look at H1, it's very much a similar picture. Really, the big difference is that it's a bigger impact on price and currency for H1 as they were very favorable still in Q1 2025. Those of you who have been following us might remember that in Q1, we talked about the production issues that we had, especially in Vallviks Bruk during the very cold winter. We have a negative impact in volume, especially from the beginning of the year this year. For the variable cost and fixed cost, you see a similar picture as for Q2. This picture is just to highlight the importance of the cost of wood for our whole profitability.
Monica Pasanen: We also see lower sales prices on our byproducts. That goes partly together with the general fuel costs. If we look at H1, it's very much a similar picture. Really, the big difference is that it's a bigger impact on price and currency for H1 as they were very favorable still in Q1 2025. Those of you who have been following us might remember that in Q1, we talked about the production issues that we had, especially in Vallviks Bruk during the very cold winter. We have a negative impact in volume, especially from the beginning of the year this year. For the variable cost and fixed cost, you see a similar picture as for Q2. This picture is just to highlight the importance of the cost of wood for our whole profitability.
Speaker #3: Then, if we look at the first six months, it's very much a similar picture. Really, the big difference is that it's a bigger impact on price and currency.
Speaker #3: For the half year, as they were very favorable still in Q1 2025. Those of you who have been following us might remember that in the first quarter, we talked about the production issues that we had, especially in Waalwijk Mill during the very cold winter.
Speaker #3: So, we have seen a negative impact in volume, especially from the beginning of the year. But for variable costs and fixed costs, you see a similar picture as for the second quarter.
Speaker #3: This picture is just to highlight the importance of the cost of wood for our overall profitability. For the first half of the year, it was 45% of our cost structure.
Monica Pasanen: For H1, it was 45% of our cost structure. This is a look at the balance sheet. With an improved EBITDA, we should, of course, have a better operational cash flow. However, we have had an increased working capital during the quarter. It has a lot to do with how the production is being planned. Now in July, Rottneros Mill was standing still as planned for summer vacation for 4 weeks. We needed to build stocks ahead of this standstill to be able to service our customers. At the end of September, we will go into Vallviks Bruk's annual maintenance shutdown and to be able to keep up our service levels. We're also usually building some stock at this time of the year.
Monica Pasanen: For H1, it was 45% of our cost structure. This is a look at the balance sheet. With an improved EBITDA, we should, of course, have a better operational cash flow. However, we have had an increased working capital during the quarter. It has a lot to do with how the production is being planned. Now in July, Rottneros Mill was standing still as planned for summer vacation for 4 weeks. We needed to build stocks ahead of this standstill to be able to service our customers. At the end of September, we will go into Vallviks Bruk's annual maintenance shutdown and to be able to keep up our service levels. We're also usually building some stock at this time of the year.
Speaker #3: This is a look at the balance sheet. With an improved EBITDA, we should, of course, have better operational cash flow. However, we have had increased working capital during the quarter.
Speaker #3: It has a lot to do with how the production is being planned. Now, in July, Rottneros Mill was standing still as planned for the summer vacation for four weeks, and we needed to build stocks ahead of this standstill to be able to service our customers.
Speaker #3: And then at the end of September, we will go into Waalwijk Mill's annual maintenance shutdown, and to be able to keep up our service levels, we are also usually building some stock at this time of the year.
Speaker #3: However, we will continue to maintain a very strict focus on our working capital and on our cash flow, considering the several quarters of lower profitability.
Monica Pasanen: However, we will continue to have very strict focus on our working capital and on our cash flow considering the several quarters of lower profitability. We also focus on our investment levels and foresee that they will be much lower this year compared to last year, approximately SEK 60 million this year versus SEK 166 the year before and also the year prior to that. That continues to be our focus on the cash flow and decreasing costs. With that, I hand back to Per to make a summary.
Monica Pasanen: However, we will continue to have very strict focus on our working capital and on our cash flow considering the several quarters of lower profitability. We also focus on our investment levels and foresee that they will be much lower this year compared to last year, approximately SEK 60 million this year versus SEK 166 the year before and also the year prior to that. That continues to be our focus on the cash flow and decreasing costs. With that, I hand back to Per to make a summary.
Speaker #3: We are also focusing on our investment levels and foresee that they will be much lower this year compared to last year—approximately 60 million this year versus 166 million the year before, and also the year prior to that.
Speaker #3: So that continues to be our focus—on cash flow and decreasing costs. With that, I hand back to Pat to make a summary.
Speaker #2: Yes. And just back to our position, thinking forward, we are in a position within our initiatives we are delivering into, that we have very strong underlying growth.
Per Bjurbom: Yes. Just back to our position thinking forward. We are in a position that in our initiatives we are delivering into, that we have very strong underlying growth. We have our paper and the pulp going into electrification. Here we have a very strong position, and we are going to grow with the market. This will improve our mix. We have the underlying trend of sustainability, and that, of course, favors fiber solutions. Maybe this trend, if you look from a pulp and paper producer, is not that kind of hot at the moment, but we are quite sure that this will pick up going forward. Here also we have our packaging endeavor that we are running up in Sunne and in Rottneros Packaging in Poland. During the quarter, we decided to move all commercial production to the Polish site.
Per Bjurbom: Yes. Just back to our position thinking forward. We are in a position that in our initiatives we are delivering into, that we have very strong underlying growth. We have our paper and the pulp going into electrification. Here we have a very strong position, and we are going to grow with the market. This will improve our mix. We have the underlying trend of sustainability, and that, of course, favors fiber solutions. Maybe this trend, if you look from a pulp and paper producer, is not that kind of hot at the moment, but we are quite sure that this will pick up going forward. Here also we have our packaging endeavor that we are running up in Sunne and in Rottneros Packaging in Poland. During the quarter, we decided to move all commercial production to the Polish site.
Speaker #2: We have our paper with the pulp going into the electrification. Here we have, say, a very strong position, and we tend to are going to grow in the market.
Speaker #2: This will improve our mix. We have the underlying trend of sustainability, and that, of course, favors fibre solutions. And maybe this trend, if you look from a pulp and paper producer's perspective, is not that hot at the moment, but we are quite sure that this will pick up going forward.
Speaker #2: And here also, we have our packaging endeavor that we are running up in Sunne and in Capar in Poland. During the quarter, we decided to move all commercial production to the Polish site.
Speaker #2: So, in Sunne today, we are doing development and customer service. E-commerce is a trend that will continue to be an underlying trend, and that will definitely consume fibre.
Per Bjurbom: In Sunne today, we are doing development and customer service. E-commerce is a trend that will continue to be an underlying trend, and that definitely consumes fiber. Then in the tissue segment, personal health hygiene, this is something that is a basic need for people, and here we think this is also going to develop going forward. I think we are well-positioned. Then if you go back to the segments we are operating in, our key areas is electrotechnical, filters, and cartonboard. You can see in this slide that compared to full year 2025, we are growing in those areas except for the cartonboard one. The board producers here, as you can hear, have had a really tough year and hopefully this will pick up going forward. Company is very well-positioned.
Per Bjurbom: In Sunne today, we are doing development and customer service. E-commerce is a trend that will continue to be an underlying trend, and that definitely consumes fiber. Then in the tissue segment, personal health hygiene, this is something that is a basic need for people, and here we think this is also going to develop going forward. I think we are well-positioned. Then if you go back to the segments we are operating in, our key areas is electrotechnical, filters, and cartonboard. You can see in this slide that compared to full year 2025, we are growing in those areas except for the cartonboard one. The board producers here, as you can hear, have had a really tough year and hopefully this will pick up going forward. Company is very well-positioned.
Speaker #2: And then, in the tissue segment—personal health and hygiene—this is something that is kind of a basic need for people. Here, we think this is also going to develop going forward.
Speaker #2: So, we are well positioned. And then, if you go back to the segments we are operating in—so, our key areas are electrotechnical filters and cotton board.
Speaker #2: And you can see in this slide that, compared to full year '25, we are growing in those areas, except for the Cotton Board one.
Speaker #2: And the board producers here in Scandinavia have had a really tough year, and hopefully this will pick up going forward. So, the company is very well positioned.
Speaker #2: And as a last summary here, we see that in these prioritised initiatives we have good demand. Wood prices have come down, and it's very difficult to say where this will go, but we will strive for this trend to keep up.
Per Bjurbom: As a last summary here, we see that in these prioritized niches, we have good demand. Wood prices has come down, and it is very difficult to say where this will go, but we will strive for. This trend will keep up. How big that will be, I don't know. Then, of course, we continue our efforts to reduce cost, and that is starting to become a DNA of this company, is the cost aspects of things. With this, I would like to say thank you for listening to us, and then I will turn it over to Elliot for Q&As.
Per Bjurbom: As a last summary here, we see that in these prioritized niches, we have good demand. Wood prices has come down, and it is very difficult to say where this will go, but we will strive for. This trend will keep up. How big that will be, I don't know. Then, of course, we continue our efforts to reduce cost, and that is starting to become a DNA of this company, is the cost aspects of things. With this, I would like to say thank you for listening to us, and then I will turn it over to Elliot for Q&As.
Speaker #2: How big that will be, I don't know. And then, of course, we continue our efforts to reduce cost, and that is starting to become part of the DNA of this company—the cost aspects of things.
Speaker #2: So with this, I would like to say thank you for listening to us, and then I will turn it over to Eliot for Q&A.
Speaker #1: Thank you so much for that presentation. We will now open up for a short Q&A session. As a reminder, if you wish to ask questions, you can do so via the forum found to the right of the broadcast.
Moderator: Thank you so much for that presentation. We now open up for a short Q&A session. As a reminder, if you wish to ask questions, you can do so via the forum found to the right of the broadcast. We can go right ahead and start. With that, the prices for the CTMP are continued low and declining. China is more and more integrating, and the convert rate between SEK and US dollar is weaker. Electricity prices are higher, and you're not running the mill full. What's the difference in EBIT between the two mills?
Operator: Thank you so much for that presentation. We now open up for a short Q&A session. As a reminder, if you wish to ask questions, you can do so via the forum found to the right of the broadcast. We can go right ahead and start. With that, the prices for the CTMP are continued low and declining. China is more and more integrating, and the convert rate between SEK and US dollar is weaker. Electricity prices are higher, and you're not running the mill full. What's the difference in EBIT between the two mills?
Speaker #1: We can go right ahead and start. And with that, the prices for the CTMP are continuing to be low and declining. China is more and more integrating, and the convert rate between SEK and US dollar is weaker.
Speaker #1: Electricity prices are higher, and you're not running the mill at full capacity. What's the difference in EBIT between the two mills?
Speaker #2: On the topic of the EBIT of the two mills, we do not comment on EBIT levels at the mills, but we can elaborate a little bit about the CTMP situation.
Per Bjurbom: On the topic of the EBIT of the two mills, we do not comment on EBIT levels on the mills, but we can elaborate a little bit about the CTMP situation. Here you can see that the prices has come down, and there is an overcapacity. I would say the prices have kind of stalled and is rather than moving slightly, not much, but a little bit upwards. Of course, with a weaker ratio between USD and SEK that we've seen in the last couple of months here, that is in favor for us. You have this situation, you should not run at full capacity. What we are doing is we are really diligent in what orders we're taking in. We are evaluating on are they making any contribution or not.
Per Bjurbom: On the topic of the EBIT of the two mills, we do not comment on EBIT levels on the mills, but we can elaborate a little bit about the CTMP situation. Here you can see that the prices has come down, and there is an overcapacity. I would say the prices have kind of stalled and is rather than moving slightly, not much, but a little bit upwards. Of course, with a weaker ratio between USD and SEK that we've seen in the last couple of months here, that is in favor for us. You have this situation, you should not run at full capacity. What we are doing is we are really diligent in what orders we're taking in. We are evaluating on are they making any contribution or not.
Speaker #2: And here you can see that the prices have come down, and there is an overcapacity. But I would say the prices have kind of stalled, and instead of moving much, they have moved slightly—not much, but a little bit upwards.
Speaker #2: And of course, then with the weaker ratio between the dollar and SEK that we have seen in the last couple of months, that is in favour of us.
Speaker #2: Then, when you have this situation, you should not run at full capacity. So what we are doing is being really diligent in what orders we're taking in.
Speaker #2: We are evaluating them on whether they are making any contribution or not. And then, on the other side, we should not run when the electricity prices are high.
Per Bjurbom: On the other side, we should not run when the electricity prices are high. We develop a modus operandi that we stop the mill according to electricity price. You have to have an an order stop that can take that kind of operation. That's why you cannot run it full. That has been, for us, it has improved the situation the last quarter, operating in this way.
Per Bjurbom: On the other side, we should not run when the electricity prices are high. We develop a modus operandi that we stop the mill according to electricity price. You have to have an an order stop that can take that kind of operation. That's why you cannot run it full. That has been, for us, it has improved the situation the last quarter, operating in this way.
Speaker #2: So we kind of develop models of operanda that we stop the mill according to the electricity price. And then you have to kind of have an order stock that can take that kind of operation.
Speaker #2: That's why you cannot run at full. But that has been for us, it's been yeah, it has improved the situation the last quarter operating in this way.
Speaker #1: Yes. How is the investment in the effluent treatment progressing? That should make you independent of fossil fuels in the CTMP mill.
Moderator: Yes. How is the investment in the effluent treatment progressing that should make you independent of fossil fuels in the CTMP mill?
Operator: Yes. How is the investment in the effluent treatment progressing that should make you independent of fossil fuels in the CTMP mill?
Speaker #2: Yes, I think it's progressing. It's working, but I think some more fine-tuning has to be done to get it into the kind of operational mode that was expected from when the investment was decided.
Per Bjurbom: Yes, I think it's progressing. It's working, but I think some more fine-tuning has to be done to get it into the kind of operational mode that was expected from, say, when the investment was decided.
Per Bjurbom: Yes, I think it's progressing. It's working, but I think some more fine-tuning has to be done to get it into the kind of operational mode that was expected from, say, when the investment was decided.
Speaker #1: Yes. All the commercial production of trays has been moved to Poland. How much do you produce, and how is the market developing? And what is the profit of that business?
Moderator: Yes. All the commercial production of trays have been moved to Poland. How much do you produce and how is the market developing, and what is the profit of that business?
Operator: Yes. All the commercial production of trays have been moved to Poland. How much do you produce and how is the market developing, and what is the profit of that business?
Per Bjurbom: We have moved all the production to Poland. We have two lines of operating there. We are on track to do somewhere between half a million to 1 million pieces a month. On this profitability thing that we have, sorry to say, we need to say no comment on that since the policy is not to comment on each unit's profitability. Sorry about that.
Per Bjurbom: We have moved all the production to Poland. We have two lines of operating there. We are on track to do somewhere between half a million to 1 million pieces a month. On this profitability thing that we have, sorry to say, we need to say no comment on that since the policy is not to comment on each unit's profitability. Sorry about that.
Speaker #2: We have moved all the production to Poland. We have two lines operating there. We typically do somewhere between half a million to one million pieces a month.
Speaker #2: And on this profitability thing, we have—sorry to say—but we need to say no comment on that, since the policy is not to comment on each unit's profitability.
Speaker #2: Sorry about that.
Speaker #1: No worries. Finnish pulpwood prices have increased again, and softwood pulp prices are low and declining. And as earlier said, the convert rate between SEK and US dollar is still somewhat elevated.
Moderator: No worries. Finnish pulpwood prices have increased again, the softwood pulp prices are low and declining. As earlier said, the convert rate between SEK and the US dollar are still somewhat elevated. What is your earnings outlook for the next 12 months considering all these factors?
Operator: No worries. Finnish pulpwood prices have increased again, the softwood pulp prices are low and declining. As earlier said, the convert rate between SEK and the US dollar are still somewhat elevated. What is your earnings outlook for the next 12 months considering all these factors?
Speaker #1: What is your earnings outlook for the next 12 months considering all these factors?
Speaker #2: So I can start, then maybe Monica should comment on that. That's a really difficult question, because there are a lot of moving pieces. And on the general side, we would like to see lower wood prices.
Per Bjurbom: I can start then maybe Monica should comment on. That's a really difficult question because this is a lot of moving pieces. On general side, we would like to see lower wood prices. Of course, what's happening in the countries around where we are sourcing has an influence on the wood prices here, and here it is important to be diligent and really strive for not increasing wood prices. That will have an effect. I think that's very difficult to say. Monica.
Per Bjurbom: I can start then maybe Monica should comment on. That's a really difficult question because this is a lot of moving pieces. On general side, we would like to see lower wood prices. Of course, what's happening in the countries around where we are sourcing has an influence on the wood prices here, and here it is important to be diligent and really strive for not increasing wood prices. That will have an effect. I think that's very difficult to say. Monica.
Speaker #2: And then, of course, what's happening in the countries around where we are sourcing has an influence on the wood prices here. And here, it's important to be diligent and really strive for not increasing wood prices.
Speaker #2: Then what effect that will have, I think that's very difficult to say. So, Monica.
Speaker #3: Yes. And we don't give guidance as such, but we show in our annual report, in the risk section, how our profitability is affected by variations in the US dollar to SEK exchange rate, in the price of pulp, and also in the price of wood.
Monica Pasanen: Yes. We don't give guidance as such, but we show in our annual report, in the risk section, how our profitability is affected by variations in the US dollar to SEK exchange rate, in the price of pulp, and also in the price of wood. These are the main three items. Electricity is also in the chart or in the table, but not as much. All of these three items are. You need to predict them, so you need to have a crystal ball to try to think of what it will mean for the coming 12 months. Of course, we see that it is a good development on the wood prices. We hope that this will continue. Pulp prices is a lot more difficult to predict, as is exchange rates.
Monica Pasanen: Yes. We don't give guidance as such, but we show in our annual report, in the risk section, how our profitability is affected by variations in the US dollar to SEK exchange rate, in the price of pulp, and also in the price of wood. These are the main three items. Electricity is also in the chart or in the table, but not as much. All of these three items are. You need to predict them, so you need to have a crystal ball to try to think of what it will mean for the coming 12 months. Of course, we see that it is a good development on the wood prices. We hope that this will continue. Pulp prices is a lot more difficult to predict, as is exchange rates.
Speaker #3: These are the main three items: electricity is also in the table, but not as much. But all of these three items, you need to predict them.
Speaker #3: So you need to have a crystal ball to try to think of what it will mean for the coming 12 months. But of course, we see that it is a good development on the wood prices.
Speaker #3: We hope that this will continue. Pulp prices are a lot more difficult to predict, and as are exchange rates. I think we will give a bit of an unsatisfactory answer, but I can refer to our annual report if you want to see the sensitivity analysis of these factors.
Monica Pasanen: I think we will give a bit of an unsatisfactory answer. I can refer to our annual report if you want to see the sensitivity analysis of these factors.
Monica Pasanen: I think we will give a bit of an unsatisfactory answer. I can refer to our annual report if you want to see the sensitivity analysis of these factors.
Speaker #1: Yes. Another question we asked Karen is: How strong do you feel in your industry right now, in 2026, compared to other companies?
Moderator: Yes. Another question we just got in is that how strong do you feel in your industry right now in 2026 compared to other companies?
Operator: Yes. Another question we just got in is that how strong do you feel in your industry right now in 2026 compared to other companies?
Speaker #3: Do you mean the strength, or was it the strengths of the industry?
Per Bjurbom: Do you mean the strength? Was it the strength of the industry?
Monica Pasanen: Do you mean the strength? Was it the strength of the industry?
Speaker #1: Yeah, actually. How is your market position compared to others?
Moderator: Yeah, exactly. How is your market position compared to others?
Operator: Yeah, exactly. How is your market position compared to others?
Speaker #3: Uh-huh.
Speaker #2: Okay. In these segments that I described in my presentations, I think we have quite good positioning in those segments. And that is basically the philosophy of the company—to kind of protect ourselves by becoming really good in certain niches where you can have some better pricing and protect yourself there.
Per Bjurbom: Okay. In these segments that I described in my presentations, I think we have a quite good positioning in those segments. That is basically the philosophy of the company to kind of protect ourselves, to become really good in certain niches where you can have some better pricing and protect yourself there. These niches will not be that big. Protect yourself from this kind of commodity pulp. I think in the niches that we described, I would say we have a strong position.
Per Bjurbom: Okay. In these segments that I described in my presentations, I think we have a quite good positioning in those segments. That is basically the philosophy of the company to kind of protect ourselves, to become really good in certain niches where you can have some better pricing and protect yourself there. These niches will not be that big. Protect yourself from this kind of commodity pulp. I think in the niches that we described, I would say we have a strong position.
Speaker #2: And these niches will not be that big. And protect yourself from this kind of commodity pulp. So, I think we have, in the niches that we described, I would say we have a strong position.
Speaker #1: Yes. The EBITDA improved from minus 46 million SEK in Q1 to plus 41 million SEK in Q2. It's possible to roughly quantify how much of the improvement came from wood cost, production availability, fixed cost, pulp and currency development, inventory, mixed effects, and, respectively, that.
Moderator: Yes. The EBITDA improved from SEK -36 million in Q1 to SEK +41 million in Q2. Is it possible to roughly quantify how much of the improvement came from wood cost, production availability, fixed costs, pulp, currency development, inventory, mixed effects, and respectively that? Which of these are likely to be sustainable going forward into Q3?
Operator: Yes. The EBITDA improved from SEK -36 million in Q1 to SEK +41 million in Q2. Is it possible to roughly quantify how much of the improvement came from wood cost, production availability, fixed costs, pulp, currency development, inventory, mixed effects, and respectively that? Which of these are likely to be sustainable going forward into Q3?
Speaker #1: Which of these are likely to be sustainable going forward into Q3?
Speaker #3: I think that we saw in the slides that the biggest improvements are from the cost side. And on the variable cost side, it doesn't move so quickly, the price levels.
Monica Pasanen: I think that we saw in the slides that the biggest improvements is from the cost side. On the variable cost side, it doesn't move so quickly the price levels. That I think can continue. Of course, on the fixed cost side, what we have achieved in our savings program will continue. Having said that, I'm sure that you're all aware of that we go into the maintenance shutdown at Vallvik mill, which will show in our cost side as we are doing the needed maintenance work once per year in this pulp mill that is otherwise running 24/7.
Monica Pasanen: I think that we saw in the slides that the biggest improvements is from the cost side. On the variable cost side, it doesn't move so quickly the price levels. That I think can continue. Of course, on the fixed cost side, what we have achieved in our savings program will continue. Having said that, I'm sure that you're all aware of that we go into the maintenance shutdown at Vallvik mill, which will show in our cost side as we are doing the needed maintenance work once per year in this pulp mill that is otherwise running 24/7.
Speaker #3: So that, I think, can continue. And of course, on the fixed cost side, what we have achieved in our savings program will continue. Having said that, I'm sure you're all aware that we go into the maintenance shutdown at Vallvik Mill, which will show on our cost side, as we are doing the needed maintenance work once per year in this pulp mill that is otherwise running 24/7.
Speaker #1: Yes, thank you. We've got another question right here. That is, there was no comment on health and safety in the CEO's comments.
Moderator: Yes. Thank you. We got another question right here. That is that there was no comment on the health and safety in the CEO comments. Has this become less of a focus for you guys?
Operator: Yes. Thank you. We got another question right here. That is that there was no comment on the health and safety in the CEO comments. Has this become less of a focus for you guys?
Speaker #1: Has this become less of a focus for you guys?
Speaker #2: Definitely not. I have, like, 40 years of experience in operations in the pulp and paper industry. And this is like breathing for this industry.
Per Bjurbom: Definitely not. I have like 40 years of experience in operations in pulp and paper industry, and this is like breathing, this industry. It's completely on top of the agenda, and if you missed that here, I'm sorry about that, but that is something that we will never put down on the second place on the agenda for the company.
Per Bjurbom: Definitely not. I have like 40 years of experience in operations in pulp and paper industry, and this is like breathing, this industry. It's completely on top of the agenda, and if you missed that here, I'm sorry about that, but that is something that we will never put down on the second place on the agenda for the company.
Speaker #2: So it's completely on top of the agenda. And if you missed that here, I'm sorry about that, but that is something that we will never put down to second place on the agenda, for example.
Speaker #1: Yes, thank you. The next question that we also got right now is: Are you planning to increase the production of the pallet in the near future?
Moderator: Yes. Thank you. The next question that we also got right now is that are you planning to increase the production of the pellets in the near future?
Operator: Yes. Thank you. The next question that we also got right now is that are you planning to increase the production of the pellets in the near future?
Per Bjurbom: Meaning producing more the production pellet?
Monica Pasanen: Meaning producing more the production pellet?
Speaker #3: Meaning producing more on the production pallet?
Speaker #1: Yeah, exactly.
Moderator: Yeah, exactly.
Operator: Yeah, exactly.
Per Bjurbom: We are planning to focus on the niches that we see are favorable for us. We don't have in the cards to make other products, and I think that might be difficult as well. The focus is to continue being good in our niches and making a difference to our customers.
Monica Pasanen: We are planning to focus on the niches that we see are favorable for us. We don't have in the cards to make other products, and I think that might be difficult as well. The focus is to continue being good in our niches and making a difference to our customers.
Speaker #3: We are planning to focus on the niches that we have, that we see are favorable for us. And we don't have in the cards to make other products.
Speaker #3: And I think that might be difficult as well. But the focus is to continue being good in our niches and making a difference to our customers.
Speaker #1: Yes. You state that wood prices have fallen by approximately 20% from their peak, and the effect comes with a time lag of about one quarter.
Moderator: Yes. You state that the wood prices have fallen by approximately 20% from their peak. The effect comes with a time lag of about one quarter. How much of the cost reduction was realized in Q2, and how much additional positive effect could come in Q3 and Q4 if current purchase prices persist?
Operator: Yes. You state that the wood prices have fallen by approximately 20% from their peak. The effect comes with a time lag of about one quarter. How much of the cost reduction was realized in Q2, and how much additional positive effect could come in Q3 and Q4 if current purchase prices persist?
Speaker #1: How much cost reduction was realized in Q2, and how much additional positive effect is coming in Q3 and Q4 if current purchase prices persist?
Speaker #3: If we compare costs to last year, we have had a downward trend now for almost a year and a half. Of course, we will continue seeing positive effects on our result from lower wood prices.
Monica Pasanen: If we compare costs to last year, we have had the downward trend now for almost a year and a half. Of course, we will continue seeing positive effects on our results from lower wood prices. I guess that is the short answer to that question.
Monica Pasanen: If we compare costs to last year, we have had the downward trend now for almost a year and a half. Of course, we will continue seeing positive effects on our results from lower wood prices. I guess that is the short answer to that question.
Speaker #3: I guess that is the short answer to that question.
Speaker #1: Yes, and you have significantly scaled back the capex to around SEK 60 million for the full year 2026, down from SEK 106.66 million in 2025, to prioritize balance sheet strength and cash flow.
Moderator: Yes. You have significantly scaled back the CapEx to around SEK 60 million for full year 2026, down from SEK 166 million in 2025, to prioritize balance sheet strength and cash flow. Given that your 2030 vision targets 415,000 tons of annual pulp production, does this lower investment pace risk creating a bottleneck for future capacity growth or delayed maintenance?
Operator: Yes. You have significantly scaled back the CapEx to around SEK 60 million for full year 2026, down from SEK 166 million in 2025, to prioritize balance sheet strength and cash flow. Given that your 2030 vision targets 415,000 tons of annual pulp production, does this lower investment pace risk creating a bottleneck for future capacity growth or delayed maintenance?
Speaker #1: Given that your 2024 division targets 415,000 tons of annual pulp production, does this lower investment pace risk creating a bottleneck for future capacity growth or delayed maintenance?
Speaker #2: It's when you do these kinds of reductions, you do some kind of—you do prioritization that maybe you would not have done when you're running with a profitable company.
Per Bjurbom: When you do these kind of reductions, you do prioritization that maybe you would not have done when you're running it as a very profitable company. It could have some effects going forward, but it's very difficult to quantify them. Basically, it means that the approaches we have to investment, the approaches we have to maintenance, that is the key, so we can do the right stuff. It's very difficult to say how that will affect the future in that respect as you ask. Our intention is hopefully that it will not have that impact.
Per Bjurbom: When you do these kind of reductions, you do prioritization that maybe you would not have done when you're running it as a very profitable company. It could have some effects going forward, but it's very difficult to quantify them. Basically, it means that the approaches we have to investment, the approaches we have to maintenance, that is the key, so we can do the right stuff. It's very difficult to say how that will affect the future in that respect as you ask. Our intention is hopefully that it will not have that impact.
Speaker #2: So it could have some effects going forward, but it's very difficult to quantify them, and basically, it means that the approaches we have to investment and the approaches we have to maintenance—that is the key.
Speaker #2: So we kind of can do the right stuff, so it's very difficult to say how that will affect the future in that respect of resources.
Speaker #2: But our intention, hopefully, is that you will not experience that impact.
Speaker #1: Yes, and the free cash flow from operating activities was -81 million SEK for the first half of the year, impacted by working capital changes and inventory buildup.
Moderator: Yes. The free cash flow from operating activities was -SEK 81 million from the H1 of the year, impacted by working capital changes and inventory buildup. What is your target working capital level, we saw that SEK 458 million at the end of Q2, for year-end 2026? When do you expect operating cash flow to turn sustainably positive?
Operator: Yes. The free cash flow from operating activities was -SEK 81 million from the H1 of the year, impacted by working capital changes and inventory buildup. What is your target working capital level, we saw that SEK 458 million at the end of Q2, for year-end 2026? When do you expect operating cash flow to turn sustainably positive?
Speaker #1: What is your target working capital level? We saw SEK 458 million at the end of Q2 for year 2026. And when do you expect operating cash flow to turn sustainably positive?
Monica Pasanen: The working capital is a big part of the cash flow and the changes in working capital. As we are having the standstill in the summer in Rottneros Mill and the maintenance shutdown in Vallvik mill, this will drive a buildup of finished goods, and that is what we also see now in Q2 has happened. Having said that, we, of course, look very closely at what we have in stock, both in finished goods, to make sure that we have efficient usage of the stock and have the right amount to also be able to serve customers. We're also looking at the raw material stock, mainly wood that we have in our wood yards, and of course, they should be at a low level, but reasonably high that we continue our operations. We keep having a very strong focus on these items going forward.
Monica Pasanen: The working capital is a big part of the cash flow and the changes in working capital. As we are having the standstill in the summer in Rottneros Mill and the maintenance shutdown in Vallvik mill, this will drive a buildup of finished goods, and that is what we also see now in Q2 has happened. Having said that, we, of course, look very closely at what we have in stock, both in finished goods, to make sure that we have efficient usage of the stock and have the right amount to also be able to serve customers. We're also looking at the raw material stock, mainly wood that we have in our wood yards, and of course, they should be at a low level, but reasonably high that we continue our operations. We keep having a very strong focus on these items going forward.
Speaker #3: Working capital is a big part of the cash flow, and the changes in working capital—as we are having the standstill in the summer in Rottneros Mill, and then the maintenance shutdown in Vallvik Mill—this will drive buildup of finished goods. That is also what we now see has happened in Q2.
Speaker #3: But having said that, we of course look very closely at what we have in stock, both in finished goods to make sure that we use the stock efficiently and have the right amount to be able to serve customers.
Speaker #3: And we're also looking at the raw material stock, mainly wood that we have in our wood yards. And, of course, this should be at a low level, but reasonably high so that we can continue our operations.
Speaker #3: So we keep having a very strong focus on these items going forward.
Speaker #1: Thank you so much. That was today's last question. So, with that, we will wrap up today's broadcast. We'd like to extend a big thank you to you for the presentation, as well as to everyone who submitted questions and watched today's broadcast.
Moderator: Thank you so much. That was today's last question. With that, we will wrap up today's broadcast. We'd like to extend a big thank you to you guys for the presentation, as well as everyone who submitted questions and watched today's broadcast. I wish you all a continued pleasant day.
Operator: Thank you so much. That was today's last question. With that, we will wrap up today's broadcast. We'd like to extend a big thank you to you guys for the presentation, as well as everyone who submitted questions and watched today's broadcast. I wish you all a continued pleasant day.
