Q2 2026 Talenom Oyj Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Good morning, everyone, and welcome to join Talenom's H1 release webcast. My name is Juho Hosola, and I work as the CEO of the company, and with me here today, as usual, is our CFO, Matti Säkkinen.
Juho Ahosola: Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Talenom's H1 Release webcast. My name is Juho Ahosola, and I work as the CEO of the company. With me here today, as usually, is our CFO, Matti Säkkinen.
Juho Ahosola: Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Talenom's H1 Release webcast. My name is Juho Ahosola, and I work as the CEO of the company. With me here today, as usually, is our CFO, Matti Säkkinen.
Speaker #2: Good morning, everyone, and welcome on my behalf.
Matti Säkkinen: Good morning, everyone, and welcome on my behalf.
Matti Säkkinen: Good morning, everyone, and welcome on my behalf.
Speaker #1: Okay, let's start then. Once again, welcome on my behalf as well. Here's the agenda for this review: I will start with a short brief about Talenom, in case we have some new investors online.
Juho Ahosola: Okay. Let's start then. Once again, welcome from my behalf as well. Here is the agenda for this review. I will start with a short brief about Talenom if we have some new investors online. Then I will comment Q2 highlights as well as our development during the review period. Matti will comment after me our financial performance in a bit more detailed level, as well as outlook and guidance. At the end of this review, there is time for questions as well, which you can ask throughout the review with the chat feature. Let's roll out. So a short brief about Talenom, what do we do and what kind of company is Talenom? Talenom is a service company. First of all, we help entrepreneurs succeed with different kind of services, accounting services, payroll services, and different kind of consulting services as well.
Juho Ahosola: Okay. Let's start then. Once again, welcome from my behalf as well. Here is the agenda for this review. I will start with a short brief about Talenom if we have some new investors online. Then I will comment Q2 highlights as well as our development during the review period. Matti will comment after me our financial performance in a bit more detailed level, as well as outlook and guidance. At the end of this review, there is time for questions as well, which you can ask throughout the review with the chat feature.
Speaker #1: Then I will comment on Q2 highlights, as well as our development during the review period. After me, Matti will comment on our financial performance in a bit more detail, as well as outlook and guidance.
Speaker #1: And at the end of this review, there's time for questions as well, which you can ask throughout the review with the chat feature. But let's roll out.
Juho Ahosola: Let's roll out. So a short brief about Talenom, what do we do and what kind of company is Talenom? Talenom is a service company. First of all, we help entrepreneurs succeed with different kind of services, accounting services, payroll services, and different kind of consulting services as well. We operate in three operating countries, Finland, Sweden, and Spain. We combine our growth, two elements, organic growth and then selective acquisitions.
Speaker #1: So, a short brief about Talenom—what we do and what kind of company Talenom is. So, Talenom is a service company, first of all.
Speaker #1: We help entrepreneurs succeed with different kinds of services: accounting services, payroll services, and different kinds of consulting services as well. And we operate in three countries: Finland, Sweden, and Spain.
Juho Ahosola: We operate in three operating countries, Finland, Sweden, and Spain. We combine our growth, two elements, organic growth and then selective acquisitions. Our approach is to combine strong local expertise and ownership with our scalable OneTalenom concept which creates better business outcomes in different ways. Software-wise, we work with best-in-class solutions and software in all our operating countries. This creates a way of sustainable growth for us, and we help our clients grow as well. That is Talenom at a glance. When it comes to our services and revenue streams as well, we have core services, accounting services, payroll services, and account receivable services. These are highly recurring and that is, of course, positive. In addition to these core services, we have also different kind of value-added services such as HR services or legal services or, let us say, business intelligence services.
Speaker #1: And we combine our growth to elements: organic growth and then selective acquisitions. And our approach is to combine strong local expertise and ownership with our scalable one Talenom concept, which creates better business outcomes in different ways.
Juho Ahosola: Our approach is to combine strong local expertise and ownership with our scalable OneTalenom concept which creates better business outcomes in different ways. Software-wise, we work with best-in-class solutions and software in all our operating countries. This creates a way of sustainable growth for us, and we help our clients grow as well. That is Talenom at a glance. When it comes to our services and revenue streams as well, we have core services, accounting services, payroll services, and account receivable services.
Speaker #1: And software-wise, we work with best-in-class solutions and software in all our operating countries. This creates a path toward sustainable growth for us, and we help our clients grow as well.
Speaker #1: But that's Talenom at a glance. When it comes to our services and revenue streams as well, we have core services, accounting services, payroll services, and accounts receivable services.
Speaker #1: And these are highly recurring, and that's, of course, positive. But in addition to these core services, we also have different kinds of value-added services, such as HR services, legal services, or, let's say, business intelligence services.
Juho Ahosola: These are highly recurring and that is, of course, positive. In addition to these core services, we have also different kind of value-added services such as HR services or legal services or, let us say, business intelligence services. We see these value-added services important in basically a couple of ways. First of all, they are important source of growth for us now and in the future as well. Secondly, they are important in terms of customer retention. That is why we are focusing on this in addition to, of course, our core.
Speaker #1: And we see these value-added services as important in basically a couple of ways. So, first of all, they are an important source of growth for us.
Juho Ahosola: We see these value-added services important in basically a couple of ways. First of all, they are important source of growth for us now and in the future as well. Secondly, they are important in terms of customer retention. That is why we are focusing on this in addition to, of course, our core. We have also industry-focused solutions for different selected industries. That is our service portfolio. Revenue comes from services, and the type of revenue is highly recurring. Last point when it comes to this, our markets where we operate. We have three operating areas, Finland, Sweden, and Spain. We are not looking to expand into new areas or countries during near future.
Speaker #1: Now and in the future as well. And then secondly, they are important in terms of customer retention. So that's why we are focusing on these, in addition to, of course, these as our core.
Speaker #1: And we also have industry-focused solutions for different selected industries. That's our service portfolio. So, revenue comes from services, and the type of revenue is highly recurring.
Juho Ahosola: We have also industry-focused solutions for different selected industries. That is our service portfolio. Revenue comes from services, and the type of revenue is highly recurring. Last point when it comes to this, our markets where we operate. We have three operating areas, Finland, Sweden, and Spain. We are not looking to expand into new areas or countries during near future. Basically here is the reason when we are looking markets, we have a lot of room for growth in all our operating countries, and we believe that we can grow remarkably in all these countries during upcoming years.
Speaker #1: Then, last point when it comes to this—so our markets where we operate. We have three operating areas: Finland, Sweden, and Spain. And we are not looking to expand into new areas or countries in the near future.
Speaker #1: So basically, here is the reason when we are looking at markets. We have a lot of room for growth in all our operating countries, and we believe that we can grow remarkably in all these countries during the upcoming years.
Juho Ahosola: Basically here is the reason when we are looking markets, we have a lot of room for growth in all our operating countries, and we believe that we can grow remarkably in all these countries during upcoming years. Market-wise, the structure of accounting market is pretty similar in all countries, Finland, Sweden, and Spain. We can recognize this fragmentation and then also this consolidation trend in all countries. The main point is that we operate in these three countries, and we see great growth opportunities in all our operating countries. That was a short summary about Talenom, and let us then move into the second quarter. Here is some highlights, and then I will comment our strategic development as well. Starting from the summary, this second quarter was the first full reporting period for the new Talenom after the split with Easor.
Speaker #1: And market-wise, the structure of the accounting market is pretty similar in all countries—Finland, Sweden, and Spain. So, we can recognize this fragmentation, and then also this consolidation trend in all countries.
Juho Ahosola: Market-wise, the structure of accounting market is pretty similar in all countries, Finland, Sweden, and Spain. We can recognize this fragmentation and then also this consolidation trend in all countries. The main point is that we operate in these three countries, and we see great growth opportunities in all our operating countries. That was a short summary about Talenom, and let us then move into the second quarter. Here is some highlights, and then I will comment our strategic development as well.
Speaker #1: But the main point is that we operate in these three countries, and we see great growth opportunities in all our operating countries. That was a short summary about Talenom.
Speaker #1: And let's then move into this second quarter. Here are some highlights, and then I will comment on our strategic development as well. Starting from the summary, this second quarter was the first full reporting period for the new Talenom after the split with ESOR.
Juho Ahosola: Starting from the summary, this second quarter was the first full reporting period for the new Talenom after the split with Easor. Overall, I would like to say that it was positive in many ways. We made good progress in multiple areas and in our main KPIs during the start of this year and Q2 as well. Many things are going and many KPIs into a right direction, and we are super happy on that, and I am thankful for all our personnel of that hard work around this. During the review period, we continued the implementation of OneTalenom concept, which is really central part of our strategy as we have communicated.
Speaker #1: Overall, I would like to say that it was positive in many ways. We made good progress in multiple areas and in our main KPIs during the start of this year and Q2 as well.
Juho Ahosola: Overall, I would like to say that it was positive in many ways. We made good progress in multiple areas and in our main KPIs during the start of this year and Q2 as well. Many things are going and many KPIs into a right direction, and we are super happy on that, and I am thankful for all our personnel of that hard work around this. During the review period, we continued the implementation of OneTalenom concept, which is really central part of our strategy as we have communicated. We also worked around these country-specific growth strategies a lot. When it comes to software strategy, I would like to say that good progress around that, and we believe that this new software neutral approach for this new Talenom, it is opening significant growth potential for the future.
Speaker #1: So many things are going, and many KPIs are moving in the right direction, and we are super happy about that. And I'm thankful for all our personnel for that hard work around this.
Speaker #1: During the review period, we continued the implementation of one Talenom concept, which is a really central part of our strategy, as we have communicated. And we also worked around these country-specific growth strategies.
Juho Ahosola: We also worked around these country-specific growth strategies a lot. When it comes to software strategy, I would like to say that good progress around that, and we believe that this new software neutral approach for this new Talenom, it is opening significant growth potential for the future. Overall, I would like to say that positive quarter and I am super thankful for our personnel, all the hard work around Q2. Here are our three main priority areas for this year, 2026. I will now open how it is going in terms of these three areas.
Speaker #1: A lot. And when it comes to software strategy, I would like to say that we’ve made good progress there. We believe that this new software-neutral approach for the new Talenom is opening significant growth potential for the future.
Speaker #1: So, overall, I would like to say that it was a positive quarter, and I'm super thankful for our personnel and all the hard work around Q2. Here are our three main priority areas for this year, 2026.
Juho Ahosola: Overall, I would like to say that positive quarter and I am super thankful for our personnel, all the hard work around Q2. Here are our three main priority areas for this year, 2026. I will now open how it is going in terms of these three areas. First of all, implementation of the new strategy in all countries as we have just started this new chapter of Talenom. Then improving profitability in Sweden and Spain, important as well, and then implementing growth strategies in all operating countries. Let us start from the first one.
Speaker #1: And I will now open by discussing how things are going in terms of these three areas. So, first of all, implementation of the new strategy in all countries, as we have just started.
Juho Ahosola: First of all, implementation of the new strategy in all countries as we have just started this new chapter of Talenom. Then improving profitability in Sweden and Spain, important as well, and then implementing growth strategies in all operating countries. Let us start from the first one. When it comes to strategy implementation during Q2, we continued systematic work with OneTalenom concept in all our operating countries. I would like to say that this implementation of new strategy is going as planned.
Speaker #1: This new chapter of Talenom. Then, improving profitability in Sweden and Spain—important as well. And then, implementing growth strategies in all operating countries. But let's start from the first one.
Speaker #1: So, when it comes to strategy implementation, during Q2, we continued systematic work with one Talenom concept in all our operating countries. And I would like to say that this implementation of new strategies is going as planned.
Juho Ahosola: When it comes to strategy implementation during Q2, we continued systematic work with OneTalenom concept in all our operating countries. I would like to say that this implementation of new strategy is going as planned. During Q2, we measured ONE Talenom index, which describes for us the degree of implementation of the OneTalenom concept. As well, we measure customer experience, customer satisfaction, and these both metrics are developing into the right direction, which we are super happy about. When it comes to this new software strategy, an extremely important part of our strategy, also growth-wise, we made multiple collaboration agreements with several new system providers. As said, we believe that in the long run, this will open up significant potential for us. Initial experiences around this new software strategy are positive in the organization.
Speaker #1: During Q2, we measured the One Talenom Index, which describes for us the degree of implementation of the One Talenom concept. As well, we measure customer experience and customer satisfaction, and both of these metrics are developing in the right direction, which we are super happy about.
Juho Ahosola: During Q2, we measured ONE Talenom index, which describes for us the degree of implementation of the OneTalenom concept. As well, we measure customer experience, customer satisfaction, and these both metrics are developing into the right direction, which we are super happy about. When it comes to this new software strategy, an extremely important part of our strategy, also growth-wise, we made multiple collaboration agreements with several new system providers. As said, we believe that in the long run, this will open up significant potential for us. Initial experiences around this new software strategy are positive in the organization.
Speaker #1: And then what it comes to this new software strategy, extremely important part of our strategy, also growth-wise. So we made multiple collaboration agreements with several new system providers.
Speaker #1: And as said, we believe that in the long run, this will open up significant potential for us. And in a nutshell, experiences around this new software strategy are positive in the organization.
Speaker #1: Then, secondly, improving profitability in Sweden and Spain, starting from Sweden. So in Sweden, we can see a positive profitability trend. I would like to say that Swedish management has done really hard and amazing work around profitability.
Juho Ahosola: Secondly, improving profitability in Sweden and Spain, starting from Sweden. In Sweden, we can see a positive profitability trend. I would like to say that Swedish management has done really hard and amazing work around profitability. We are now definitely going in the right direction as well as in multiple other metrics such as customer experience, employee experience, and OneTalenom as well. As we know, we have adjusted our cost base in Sweden remarkably during this year. Now we can see effect on our figures. Of course, we are here building the base for future profitability for upcoming years as well. When it comes to Spain, comparable EBITDA was weighed down by acquisition integration costs, and particularly this EUR 1.2 million impairment of trade receivables.
Juho Ahosola: Secondly, improving profitability in Sweden and Spain, starting from Sweden. In Sweden, we can see a positive profitability trend. I would like to say that Swedish management has done really hard and amazing work around profitability. We are now definitely going in the right direction as well as in multiple other metrics such as customer experience, employee experience, and OneTalenom as well. As we know, we have adjusted our cost base in Sweden remarkably during this year. Now we can see effect on our figures. Of course, we are here building the base for future profitability for upcoming years as well. When it comes to Spain, comparable EBITDA was weighed down by acquisition integration costs, and particularly this EUR 1.2 million impairment of trade receivables.
Speaker #1: We are now definitely going in the right direction, as well as in multiple other metrics, such as customer experience, employee experience, and One Talenom as well.
Speaker #1: And as we know, we have adjusted our cost base in Sweden remarkably during this year. And now we can see the effect on our figures.
Speaker #1: And of course, we are here building the base for future profitability for the upcoming years as well. Then, when it comes to Spain, comparable EBITDA was weighed down by acquisition integration costs.
Speaker #1: And then, particularly, this €1.2 million impairment of trade receivables. And it's worth emphasizing that profitability was in line with the comparison period if we exclude this one-time item.
Juho Ahosola: It is worth emphasizing that profitability was in line with comparison period if we exclude this one-time item, this impairment of trade receivables. When it comes to these integration costs in Spain, we have a really, I would like to say, a solid plan in place to improve profitability and cut these integration costs in the future. Maybe this profitability trend and our development in Sweden is something that is really positive for us. Thirdly, implementation of growth strategies in all operating countries. We continued work around these growth strategies in all our operating countries. We really believe, and we have good indicators that this product software offering will open over time, really good and significant growth potential for us.
Juho Ahosola: It is worth emphasizing that profitability was in line with comparison period if we exclude this one-time item, this impairment of trade receivables. When it comes to these integration costs in Spain, we have a really, I would like to say, a solid plan in place to improve profitability and cut these integration costs in the future. Maybe this profitability trend and our development in Sweden is something that is really positive for us. Thirdly, implementation of growth strategies in all operating countries. We continued work around these growth strategies in all our operating countries. We really believe, and we have good indicators that this product software offering will open over time, really good and significant growth potential for us.
Speaker #1: This impairment of trade receivables. And when it comes to these integration costs in Spain, we have a really, I would like to say, solid plan in place to improve profitability and cut these integration costs in the future.
Speaker #1: But maybe this profitability trend and our development in Sweden are something that is really positive for us. Then, thirdly, the implementation of growth strategies in all operating countries.
Speaker #1: So we have growth strategies in all our operating countries. And we really believe, and we have good indicators, that this broader software offering will open, over time, really good and significant growth potential.
Speaker #1: For us, also, when it comes to growth, something we want to communicate and emphasize is that the market conditions in Finland have been really, really challenging.
Juho Ahosola: Also, when it comes to growth, something we want to communicate and emphasize that the market conditions in Finland, they have been really challenging, and they weigh on our growth towards the end of the year. In any case, we continue systematic work to support our long-term growth, and our sales team in Finland has done really good work in these challenging market conditions. We want to focus where we can, and we can focus on our actions. We believe that over time, market will support our growth as well as this new software strategy. When it comes to second part of our growth, acquisitions, we executed two acquisitions during review period in Spain for this Q2. That about strategy implementation and these three main areas for this year. Here is the summary of our financial figures.
Juho Ahosola: Also, when it comes to growth, something we want to communicate and emphasize that the market conditions in Finland, they have been really challenging, and they weigh on our growth towards the end of the year. In any case, we continue systematic work to support our long-term growth, and our sales team in Finland has done really good work in these challenging market conditions. We want to focus where we can, and we can focus on our actions. We believe that over time, market will support our growth as well as this new software strategy. When it comes to second part of our growth, acquisitions, we executed two acquisitions during review period in Spain for this Q2. That about strategy implementation and these three main areas for this year. Here is the summary of our financial figures.
Speaker #1: And they weigh on our growth towards the end of the year. But in any case, we continue systematic work to support our long-term growth, and our sales team in Finland has done really, really good work in these challenging market conditions.
Speaker #1: We want to focus where we can, and we can focus on our actions. We believe that, over time, the market will support our growth as well.
Speaker #1: As well as this new software strategy. And when it comes to the second part of our growth—acquisitions—we executed two acquisitions during the review period in Spain.
Speaker #1: For this second quarter, so that's about strategy implementation and these three main areas for this year. Here is the summary of our financial figures.
Speaker #1: So, comparable net sales grew a bit, 2.8%. That is €30.6 million. And then EBITDA—it's important to emphasize that comparable EBITDA declined slightly due to this impairment of trade receivables in Spain.
Juho Ahosola: Comparable net sales, it grew a bit, 2.8%, that is EUR 30.6 million. EBITDA, it is important to emphasize that comparable EBITDA declined slightly due to this impairment of trade receivables in Spain and was EUR 5.8 million. Operating profit you can see from the right-hand side. Matti will comment on open figures next in a bit more detailed level. Thank you at this point.
Juho Ahosola: Comparable net sales, it grew a bit, 2.8%, that is EUR 30.6 million. EBITDA, it is important to emphasize that comparable EBITDA declined slightly due to this impairment of trade receivables in Spain and was EUR 5.8 million. Operating profit you can see from the right-hand side. Matti will comment on open figures next in a bit more detailed level. Thank you at this point.
Speaker #1: And was 5.8 million. And then operating profits, you can see from the right-hand side. But Matti will comment and open the figures now next in a bit more detailed level.
Speaker #1: Thank you at this point.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Juho. Okay, let's jump to the financial key figures. In my slides, I will focus on our continuing operations and comparable financial figures.
Matti Säkkinen: Thanks, Juho. Let us jump to the financial key figures. In my slides, I will focus to our continuing operations and comparable financial figures. Let us start from group's comparable net sales. Our growth was 2.8% in Q2, and net sales was EUR 30.6 million. This growth came from Finland and Spain. In Sweden, our growth was negative. Group's comparable EBITDA, it was EUR 5.8 million in Q2 and 18.9% of revenue. The profitability development in Finland and Sweden was positive and was impacting positively to our profitability. On the other hand, this non-recurring impairment in Spain was impacting negatively to our profitability. Group's operating profit was EUR 2.3 million and 7.7% of net sales. This development is in line with our EBITDA development. Depreciations were approximately at the same level with the comparison period. Then let us jump to the country-specific key figures.
Matti Säkkinen: Thanks, Juho. Let us jump to the financial key figures. In my slides, I will focus to our continuing operations and comparable financial figures. Let us start from group's comparable net sales. Our growth was 2.8% in Q2, and net sales was EUR 30.6 million. This growth came from Finland and Spain. In Sweden, our growth was negative. Group's comparable EBITDA, it was EUR 5.8 million in Q2 and 18.9% of revenue. The profitability development in Finland and Sweden was positive and was impacting positively to our profitability. On the other hand, this non-recurring impairment in Spain was impacting negatively to our profitability. Group's operating profit was EUR 2.3 million and 7.7% of net sales. This development is in line with our EBITDA development. Depreciations were approximately at the same level with the comparison period. Then let us jump to the country-specific key figures.
Speaker #2: Let's start from the Group's comparable net sales. Our growth was 2.8% in Q2, and net sales were €30.6 million. This growth came from Finland and Spain.
Speaker #2: In Sweden, our growth was negative. Group's comparable EBITDA was €5.8 million in Q2, representing 18.9% of revenue. Profitability developments in Finland and Sweden were positive.
Speaker #2: And was impacting positively our profitability. On the other hand, this non-recurring impairment in Spain was impacting negatively our profitability. Group's operating profit was €2.3 million.
Speaker #2: And 7.7% of net sales. This development is in line with our EBITDA development. Depreciation was approximately at the same level as in the comparison period.
Speaker #2: And then, let's jump to the country-specific key figures. In Finland, our growth was 1.4%, and net sales were €18.7 million in Q2. This growth was entirely organic.
Matti Säkkinen: In Finland, our growth was 1.4%, and net sales was EUR 18.7 million in Q2. This growth was entirely organic, and we still see in Finland that this economical situation is challenging our growth actions. Related to these challenges, we see that customer churn is a little bit higher than normally, and also we see markdowns due the lower level of activities in our customer companies. It is great to see these positive signs from the Finland's economic growth, and it is meaning that in our business, the impacts will be happened with a delay. That is of course positive for the future. The profitability in Finland was strong. Comparable EBITDA in Q2 was EUR 5.7 million and 30.2% of net sales. The business performed very well. On the other hand, we have adjusted our resources and costs to meet this challenging growth environment.
Matti Säkkinen: In Finland, our growth was 1.4%, and net sales was EUR 18.7 million in Q2. This growth was entirely organic, and we still see in Finland that this economical situation is challenging our growth actions. Related to these challenges, we see that customer churn is a little bit higher than normally, and also we see markdowns due the lower level of activities in our customer companies. It is great to see these positive signs from the Finland's economic growth, and it is meaning that in our business, the impacts will be happened with a delay. That is of course positive for the future. The profitability in Finland was strong. Comparable EBITDA in Q2 was EUR 5.7 million and 30.2% of net sales. The business performed very well. On the other hand, we have adjusted our resources and costs to meet this challenging growth environment.
Speaker #2: And we still see in Finland that this economic situation is challenging our growth actions. Related to these challenges, we see that customer churn is a little bit higher than normally.
Speaker #2: And also, we see markdowns due to lower levels of activity in our customer companies. It's great to see these positive signs from Finland's economic growth.
Speaker #2: And it's meaning that in our business, the impacts will happen with a delay. So that's of course positive for the future. The profitability in Finland was strong.
Speaker #2: Comparable EBITDA in Q2 was €5.7 million, and 30.2% of net sales. The business performed very well. On the other hand, we have adjusted our resources and costs to meet this challenging growth environment.
Speaker #2: There were also some timing differences of expenses between the quarters, and that was also impacting positively this development in EBITDA. And now, in Sweden, we see that our growth was negative, minus 9.9%.
Matti Säkkinen: There were also some timing differences of expenses between the quarters, and that was also impacting positive to this development in EBITDA. In Sweden, we see that our growth was negative, -9.9%, and net sales was EUR 5.9 million. We had high customer churn in Sweden in 2025, and this is still impacting to our net sales development. On the other hand, we all the time see that this trend from the new customers and customer churn is going to the right trend, and we expect that it will also impact to our net sales development in the later phase. Comparable EBITDA in Sweden was EUR 0.7 million and 11.6% of net sales. We have continued these cost adjustments and profitability actions in Sweden, and we are very happy to see this positive trend in terms of profitability.
Matti Säkkinen: There were also some timing differences of expenses between the quarters, and that was also impacting positive to this development in EBITDA. In Sweden, we see that our growth was -9.9%, and net sales was EUR 5.9 million. We had high customer churn in Sweden in 2025, and this is still impacting to our net sales development. On the other hand, we all the time see that this trend from the new customers and customer churn is going to the right trend, and we expect that it will also impact to our net sales development in the later phase. Comparable EBITDA in Sweden was EUR 0.7 million and 11.6% of net sales. We have continued these cost adjustments and profitability actions in Sweden, and we are very happy to see this positive trend in terms of profitability.
Speaker #2: And net sales were €5.9 million. We had a high customer churn in Sweden in 2025, and this is still impacting our net sales development.
Speaker #2: On the other hand, we all the time see that this trend from the new customers and customer churn is going in the right trend.
Speaker #2: And we expect that it will also impact our net sales development in the later phase. Comparable EBITDA in Sweden was €0.7 million.
Speaker #2: And 11.6% of net sales. We have continued these cost adjustments and profitability actions in Sweden, and we are very happy to see this positive trend in terms of profitability.
Speaker #2: Of course, we continue these actions, and we expect that we are on track to achieve positive EBITDA in Sweden during this year.
Matti Säkkinen: Of course, we continue these actions, and we expect that we are on track to achieve positive EBITDA in Sweden this year. We jump to Spain figures. The growth was 26.2% in Spain, and net sales EUR 5.9 million. We have made four acquisitions in Spain after Q2 2025, and most of the quarter's growth come via these acquisitions. We also continued steady performance with our new customer acquisition, and it's meaning that it's also supporting our growth during this year and in the future. Comparable EBITDA in Spain was -EUR 0.6 million and -9.4% of net sales. We have integration costs and also increase in fixed software-related costs, which are impacting negatively to our profitability development. In additional for that, this non-recurring impairment of trade receivables is impacting significantly to our profitability development in Q2. Next, we jump to outlook and guidance.
Matti Säkkinen: Of course, we continue these actions, and we expect that we are on track to achieve positive EBITDA in Sweden this year. We jump to Spain figures. The growth was 26.2% in Spain, and net sales EUR 5.9 million. We have made four acquisitions in Spain after Q2 2025, and most of the quarter's growth come via these acquisitions. We also continued steady performance with our new customer acquisition, and it's meaning that it's also supporting our growth during this year and in the future. Comparable EBITDA in Spain was -EUR 0.6 million and -9.4% of net sales. We have integration costs and also increase in fixed software-related costs, which are impacting negatively to our profitability development. In additional for that, this non-recurring impairment of trade receivables is impacting significantly to our profitability development in Q2. Next, we jump to outlook and guidance.
Speaker #2: Then we jump to Spain figures. The growth was 26.2% in Spain, and net sales were €5.9 million. We have made four acquisitions in Spain after Q2 2025.
Speaker #2: And most of the quarter's growth came via these acquisitions. We also continued steady performance with our new customer acquisition, and it's meaning that it's also supporting our growth during this year.
Speaker #2: And in the future, comparable EBITDA in Spain was minus €0.6 million, and minus 9.4% of net sales. We have integration costs and also an increase in fixed software-related costs.
Speaker #2: Which are impacting negatively our profitability development. In addition to that, this non-recurring impairment of trade receivables is impacting significantly our profitability development in Q2.
Speaker #2: And next, we jump to outlook and guidance. We expect that our net sales will be between €110 million and €120 million, and comparable EBITDA from €18 million to €22 million.
Matti Säkkinen: We expect that our net sales will be from EUR 110 to EUR 120 million and comparable EBITDA from EUR 18 to EUR 22 million. Our guidance is unchanged. Now we jump to the questions.
Matti Säkkinen: We expect that our net sales will be from EUR 110 to EUR 120 million and comparable EBITDA from EUR 18 to EUR 22 million. Our guidance is unchanged. Now we jump to the questions.
Speaker #2: So our guidance is unchanged. And now we jump to the questions.
[Company Representative] (Talenom): Hi, all. We have some questions online. Let's get started. Is there any of that Spanish 1.2 million write-down still collected? Can it still be collected or is it all gone?
[Company Representative] (Talenom): Hi, all. We have some questions online. Let's get started. Is there any of that Spanish 1.2 million write-down still collected? Can it still be collected or is it all gone?
Speaker #1: Hi all. We have some questions online, so let's get started. Is any of that Spanish €1.2 million write-down still collectible? Can it still be collected?
Speaker #1: Or is it all gone?
Speaker #2: Yeah, of course, it's possible that there are some opportunities to collect them. But there is high risk for them, and that's the reason that we have made this write-down.
Matti Säkkinen: Yeah, of course, it's possible that there is some opportunities to collect them. But there is high risk for them, and that's the reason that we have made this write-down.
Matti Säkkinen: Yeah, of course, it's possible that there is some opportunities to collect them. But there is high risk for them, and that's the reason that we have made this write-down.
Speaker #1: Yeah, yeah. So what is included in the €2.4 million in software and digital investments now, when we are a service company? So, what are those?
[Company Representative] (Talenom): Yeah. What is included in the EUR 2.4 million software and digital investments now when we are a service company? What is those?
[Company Representative] (Talenom): Yeah. What is included in the EUR 2.4 million software and digital investments now when we are a service company? What is those?
Speaker #2: Yeah. We are still continuing our investments related to our automation processes, and also different, like AI improvements, for example.
Matti Säkkinen: Yeah. We are still continuing our investments related to our automation processes and also different AI improvements, for example.
Matti Säkkinen: Yeah. We are still continuing our investments related to our automation processes and also different AI improvements, for example.
Speaker #1: And it's also worth mentioning that during this review period, we finalized this financial report for our clients, like the AI Pact report. So that's one item where we have invested, and in the future as well, we are going to develop digital solutions such as AI solutions in line with our strategy.
Juho Ahosola: It is also worth mentioning that during this review period, we finalized this financial report for our clients, like AI packed report. That is one item there where we have invested in the future as well. We are going to develop digital solutions such as AI solutions too, in line with our strategy.
Juho Ahosola: It is also worth mentioning that during this review period, we finalized this financial report for our clients, like AI packed report. That is one item there where we have invested in the future as well. We are going to develop digital solutions such as AI solutions too, in line with our strategy.
Speaker #2: Yeah.
[Company Representative] (Talenom): Yeah. Do we have any results seen now from bringing the Fortnox back? Is it bringing any results?
[Company Representative] (Talenom): Yeah. Do we have any results seen now from bringing the Fortnox back? Is it bringing any results?
Speaker #1: So do we have any results seen now from bringing the Fortnox back? So is it bringing any results? Well, I think we are now talking about Sweden here.
Juho Ahosola: Well, I think we are now talking about Sweden here. We do not have this kind of projects bringing some software back or so. We always want to find what is the best solution for our clients and sometimes it might be Eezy, or sometimes it might be Fortnox. Sometimes it might be some other solution. We always start from a client perspective. That is our strategy and it is true that Fortnox it is really good and important software for us in Sweden.
Juho Ahosola: Well, I think we are now talking about Sweden here. We do not have this kind of projects bringing some software back or so. We always want to find what is the best solution for our clients and sometimes it might be Eezy, or sometimes it might be Fortnox. Sometimes it might be some other solution. We always start from a client perspective. That is our strategy and it is true that Fortnox it is really good and important software for us in Sweden.
Speaker #1: So we don't have these kinds of projects, like bringing some software back or so. We always want to find what is the best solution for our clients.
Speaker #1: And sometimes it might be easier. Sometimes it might be Fortnox, and sometimes it might be some other solution. So we always start from the client perspective.
Speaker #1: That's our strategy. And it's true that Fortnox is a really good and important software for us in Sweden.
Speaker #2: Yes.
[Company Representative] (Talenom): When do you expect the international acquisitions to improve margins?
Speaker #1: So, when do you expect the international acquisitions to improve margins? Well, if we start from Sweden, I think we have been quite clear with that.
[Company Representative] (Talenom): When do you expect the international acquisitions to improve margins?
Juho Ahosola: Well, if we start from Sweden, I think we have been quite clear with that. We are now looking this positive EBITDA and working hard around that target. When it comes to Spain, I think there where we have done our recent acquisitions, there is a lot of different kind of integration costs and it is not only one thing. It includes software costs and broker costs and different kind of personal costs from HR and other support functions. Of course, we have a plan in place how to reduce that cost over time. In Spain as well, our target is that positive EBITDA for this year.
Juho Ahosola: Well, if we start from Sweden, I think we have been quite clear with that. We are now looking this positive EBITDA and working hard around that target. When it comes to Spain, I think there where we have done our recent acquisitions, there is a lot of different kind of integration costs and it is not only one thing. It includes software costs and broker costs and different kind of personal costs from HR and other support functions. Of course, we have a plan in place how to reduce that cost over time. In Spain as well, our target is that positive EBITDA for this year.
Speaker #1: So, we are now looking at this positive EBITDA and working hard around that target. And when it comes to Spain, I think that's where we have done our recent acquisitions—there are a lot of different kinds of integration costs.
Speaker #1: And it's not only one thing. It includes software costs and broker costs, and different kinds of personnel costs from HR and other support functions.
Speaker #1: And to reduce that cost over time. And in Spain as well, our target is this year.
Speaker #2: Yeah.
[Company Representative] (Talenom): Yeah. Do we have any more acquisitions coming from this year?
[Company Representative] (Talenom): Yeah. Do we have any more acquisitions coming from this year?
Speaker #1: So do we have any more acquisitions coming from this year?
Juho Ahosola: Well, as said in our growth strategy, we have two components: organic growth and acquisitions. Maybe that's something I would like to highlight, that we are never doing acquisitions only because of growth. We're super selective, and we want them to fit well and create long-time value for owners.
Juho Ahosola: Well, as said in our growth strategy, we have two components: organic growth and acquisitions. Maybe that's something I would like to highlight, that we are never doing acquisitions only because of growth. We're super selective, and we want them to fit well and create long-time value for owners.
Speaker #2: Well, as said, in our growth strategy we have two components: organic growth and acquisitions. And maybe that's something I would like to highlight—that we are never doing acquisitions only because of growth.
Speaker #2: We are super selective, and we want them to fit well and create long-term value for owners.
Speaker #1: Yeah. So next one. Did you transfer price any Finland profits to Sweden? Or was this just local improvement?
[Company Representative] (Talenom): Yeah. Next one: did you transfer price any Finland profits to Sweden, or was this just local improvement?
[Company Representative] (Talenom): Yeah. Next one: did you transfer price any Finland profits to Sweden, or was this just local improvement?
Speaker #2: Yeah, good question. Of these improvements, is of course local. So the Swedish management has been done very great work there. And we have made many local improvements in the over costs and also this financial performance as well.
Matti Säkkinen: Yeah, good question. Of these improvements is, of course, local. The Swedish management has been doing very great work there, and we have made many local improvements in our costs and also this financial performance as well.
Matti Säkkinen: Yeah, good question. Of these improvements is, of course, local. The Swedish management has been doing very great work there, and we have made many local improvements in our costs and also this financial performance as well.
Speaker #1: And maybe something I would like to highlight from Sweden. This great work that local management has done. And it's not only this profitability. It's of course super positive that now we can see it in financial figures.
Juho Ahosola: Maybe something I would like to highlight from Sweden, this great work that local management has done, and it's not only this profitability. It's of course super positive that now we can see it in financial figures, but also around customer experience, employee experience, and this new strategy and OneTalenom. So great work from Team Sweden.
Juho Ahosola: Maybe something I would like to highlight from Sweden, this great work that local management has done, and it's not only this profitability. It's of course super positive that now we can see it in financial figures, but also around customer experience, employee experience, and this new strategy and OneTalenom. So great work from Team Sweden.
Speaker #1: But also around customer experience and employee experience, and this new strategy and One Talenom. So, great work from Team Sweden.
Speaker #2: Yeah.
[Company Representative] (Talenom): Yeah. One more in Sweden. Revenue is still down about 10%, so has new customer acquisitions already exceeded churn? Or what is the realistic timeline for revenue to come to growth?
[Company Representative] (Talenom): Yeah. One more in Sweden. Revenue is still down about 10%, so has new customer acquisitions already exceeded churn? Or what is the realistic timeline for revenue to come to growth?
Speaker #1: One more in Sweden: revenue is still down about 10%. So, has new customer acquisition already exceeded churn? What is the realistic timeline for revenue to return to growth?
Juho Ahosola: As we have communicated, it is like this net growth. It is going the right direction. There are differences between months. Trend is still positive. It is definitely going to the right direction. We had previous year really high churn, and now when thinking about different growth elements, churn-wise, we are really progressing as planned. And we are really happy with that development. Now we are focusing more on accelerating sales and improving sales levels. We have made during the spring some adjustments in the organization as well to support our, accelerate our growth and sales in the future. But all in all, we do not promise any specific date for this, but we are going to the right direction, as Matti also said.
Juho Ahosola: As we have communicated, it is like this net growth. It is going the right direction. There are differences between months. Trend is still positive. It is definitely going to the right direction. We had previous year really high churn, and now when thinking about different growth elements, churn-wise, we are really progressing as planned. And we are really happy with that development. Now we are focusing more on accelerating sales and improving sales levels. We have made during the spring some adjustments in the organization as well to support our, accelerate our growth and sales in the future. But all in all, we do not promise any specific date for this, but we are going to the right direction, as Matti also said.
Speaker #2: As we have communicated, it's like this net growth. It's going to right direction. There's differences between months. Trend is still positive. It's definitely going to right direction.
Speaker #2: We had previous year really high churn. And now when thinking about different growth elements, churn wise, we are really progressing as planned. And we are really happy with that development.
Speaker #2: Now we are focusing more on like accelerating like sales and improving sales level. So we have made during the spring some adjustments in the organization as well to support our accelerate our growth and sales in the future.
Speaker #2: But all in all, we don't promise any specific date for this. But we are going in the right direction, as Matti also said.
Speaker #1: Yeah, one more question. Has Finland and Sweden's recent economic recovery been visible in your monthly results?
[Company Representative] (Talenom): Yeah. One more question. Has Finland and Sweden recent economic recovery been visible in your monthly results?
[Company Representative] (Talenom): Yeah. One more question. Has Finland and Sweden recent economic recovery been visible in your monthly results?
Juho Ahosola: When it comes to volumes, which is quite concrete way to measure this activity, we do not yet see that positive trend. But we are super happy to hear this news now from multiple different sources of this economical situation in Finland and Sweden as well. And we really believe that that will boost our sales and growth. And to me, it seems that as we have now been working around this new software strategy and our sales teams in both countries have been working super hard. We are more ready when we get a bit boost from the market as well. So quite confident with that.
Juho Ahosola: When it comes to volumes, which is quite concrete way to measure this activity, we do not yet see that positive trend. But we are super happy to hear this news now from multiple different sources of this economical situation in Finland and Sweden as well. And we really believe that that will boost our sales and growth. And to me, it seems that as we have now been working around this new software strategy and our sales teams in both countries have been working super hard. We are more ready when we get a bit boost from the market as well. So quite confident with that.
Speaker #2: When it comes to volumes, we have quite a concrete way to measure this activity. We don't yet see that positive trend, but we are super happy to hear this news now from multiple different sources.
Speaker #2: ...of this economic situation in Finland and Sweden—Sweden as well. And we really believe that that will boost our sales and growth. To me, it seems that as we have now been working around this new software strategy, and our sales teams in both countries have been working super hard.
Speaker #2: So we are more ready when we get a bit of a boost from the market as well. So, quite confident with that.
Speaker #1: Yes, thank you, guys. That's all for the online questions. So, okay. Thanks, everyone, for joining this review. Thank you.
[Company Representative] (Talenom): Yes. Thank you, guys. That's all for the online questions.
[Company Representative] (Talenom): Yes. Thank you, guys. That's all for the online questions.
Juho Ahosola: Okay. Thanks everyone for joining this review. Thank you.
Juho Ahosola: Okay. Thanks everyone for joining this review. Thank you.
[Company Representative] (Talenom): Thank you very much.
[Company Representative] (Talenom): Thank you very much.
