Half Year 2026 Globe Trade Centre SA Earnings Call
Operator: A text box at the bottom of your screen. I hand it over to Michał Kuzawiński to begin. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: There is a textbox at the bottom of your screen, and I hand it over to Michał Krzewiński to begin. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Alex, and good afternoon, everybody—and good morning to those who have joined us from across the ocean. Today, we have our H1 2026 results to discuss with you. We will have a presentation for you, followed by a written Q&A session.
Michał Kuzawiński: Thank you, Alex, and good afternoon, everybody, and good morning to those who have joined us from behind the ocean. We have today our H1 2026 results to discuss with you. We will have a presentation for you, followed by a written Q&A session. If you would like to ask us any question, you can any time type the Q&A button and type your question, or alternatively, you can also email these questions to me. We have with us today our CEO, Botond, and CFO, Jacek. I will hand over now to Botond to begin the presentation. Thank you.
Speaker #2: So if you'd like to ask us any questions, you can at any time click the Q&A button and type your question. Alternatively, you can also email these questions to me.
Speaker #2: We have with us today our CEO, Botond, and CFO, Jacek. I'll hand over now to Botond to begin the presentation. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Thank you very much, Michał, and I would like to welcome everybody to this call today. A very warm welcome—probably because this summer, at least in Europe, was extremely warm.
Botond Rencz: Thank you very much, Michal. I would like to welcome everybody to this call today. Very warm welcome, probably because this summer, at least in Europe, was extremely warm. I think everybody enjoyed their vacation. In case you did not, probably you will have a little bit colder weather in September. I am very grateful that you have taken the time, and you are joining us on this call. Last time we covered the first quarter. Now we are going to cover the H1, and Magda is going to show us the slides that we have. The plan is that I give you a half year highlights, and then Jacek will go into the details, and we are going to finish, just like last time, with the Q&A session. Let me start with the headline picture for the H1. Magda, if you do not Okay.
Speaker #3: So, I think everybody enjoyed their vacation. In case you didn't, you will probably have a little bit calmer weather in September. But I'm very grateful that you have taken the time and are joining us on this call.
Speaker #3: Last time we covered the first quarter. Now we are going to cover the first half, and Magda is going to show us the slides that we have.
Speaker #3: And the plan is that I give you the half-year highlights, and then Jacek will go into the details. We are going to finish, just like last time, with the Q&A session.
Speaker #3: So let me start with the headline picture for the first half. So Magda, if you don't—okay, yes, we now have the numbers. So when we look at it, we can see that our revenue from rental activity moved up 5% year on year, with the underlying like-for-like up 2%.
Botond Rencz: Yes, we have now the numbers. When we look at it, we can see that our rental activity, revenue from rental activity, moved up 5% year-on-year, with the underlying like-for-like 2%. We realized moderate operational improvements in our core markets. The remaining growth, the remaining part, was coming from reducing service charge leakage, increasing service line revenue, growing by 9% year-on-year in the H1. We also had a one-off income from renting roof infrastructure on commercial properties in Poland. Our gross margin also grew 10% year-on-year, which was a combination of revenue growth, but also more careful spending in our commercial assets, with the cost of rental operations declining by 4% year-on-year. Overall, we had a solid performance across our core operations, combined with good cost discipline in G&A expenses. Our adjusted EBITDA was up 11% year-on-year to just over EUR 63 million.
Speaker #3: We realized moderate operational improvements in our core markets. The remaining growth, the remaining part, was coming from reducing service charge leakage and increasing service line revenue, growing by 9% year on year in the first half.
Speaker #3: And we also had one-off income from renting roof infrastructure on commercial properties in Poland. Our gross margin also grew 10% year-on-year, which was a combination of revenue growth, but also more careful spending in our commercial assets.
Speaker #3: With the cost of rental operations declining by 4% year on year, overall we had a solid performance across our core operations. Combined with good cost discipline in SG&A expenses, our adjusted EBITDA was up 11% year on year, to just over €603 million.
Speaker #3: So the trend has continued from the first quarter—our revenues, margin, and EBITDA are moving in the right direction, even though in the second half at a more moderate pace, because some of the one-offs in the first quarter actually got more normalized now.
Botond Rencz: The trend has continued from the first quarter, our revenues margin EBITDA in the right direction. Even though in the second half, a more moderate pace, because some of the one-offs in the first quarter actually got more normalized now. The FFO is up 4% year-on-year, and our occupancy of a commercial portfolio held at 87%. AFFO per share is stable at €1.93 or 8.27 złoty. Where there is a bit of a bigger movement is the LTV, which moved from 57% to 58.7%, mainly resulting from higher net debt in the period resulting from the cash buffer refinancing associated interest costs. But our expectation is that this is going to improve, based on two levels. One is we also sold one mall, in the Croatia Avenue Mall.
Speaker #3: The FFO is up 4% year on year, and our occupancy of the commercial portfolio held at 87%. APRO and TPE share is stable at €1.93, or PLN 8.27. Where there is a bit of a bigger movement is the LTV, which moved from 57% to 58.7%, mainly resulting from higher net debt in the period, resulting from the cash buffer refinancing associated interest costs, but our expectation is that this is going to improve based on two levels.
Speaker #3: One is, we also sold one mall in Croatia, Avenue Mall, which we originally thought would close in the second quarter. It's closing in the third quarter, with €27 million cash already arrived.
Botond Rencz: Which we originally thought it will close in Q2, it is closing in Q3 with 27 million cash already arrived. And that is going to provide a nice improvement to the LTV. And also we expect to continue, but maybe at a little bit faster space and disposals, which should also help. In this H1, we sold some residential plots, one in Budapest, one in Bucharest, and residential units in Germany, as I mentioned, Avenue Mall as well. So the overall summary is our operating business continues to improve. Most of it is sustainable and solid. Our net asset value is steady, and the progress on deleveraging is happening, but slower than we originally expected. But we think it is going to catch up in the second half.
Speaker #3: And that is going to provide a nice improvement to the LTV, and also we expect to continue what may be a little bit faster pace of disposal, which should also help.
Speaker #3: In this half year, we sold some residential plots—one in Budapest, one in Bucharest—as well as residential units in Germany. As I mentioned, Avenue Mall as well.
Speaker #3: So, the overall summary is: our operating business continues to improve—most of it is sustainable and solid. Unasset value is steady, and the progress on delivering is happening, but slower than we originally expected. However, we think it is going to catch up in the second half.
Speaker #3: So, with this, I would say a short introduction and painting the big picture. I would like to hand the floor to you, Jacek.
Botond Rencz: With this, I would say a short introduction and updating the big picture, I would like to hand the floor to you, Jacek.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Botond. Magda, if you can flip to the portfolio slide. So let me take you first to the portfolio, and then we'll go deeper into the financials.
Jacek Bagiński: Thank you, Botond. Magda, if you can flip to the portfolio slide. So let me take you first to the portfolio, and then we will go deeper into the financials, where I will put some more color on the highlights, all of them mentioned by Botond. Starting from the portfolio, which is slide number 5. As of end of June 2026, total investment GAV stands at 2.7 million, essentially flat versus year-end. Adjusted total investment portfolio, excluding non-current financial assets, which is mainly Kildare, is €2.6 billion.
Speaker #2: I will add some more color on the highlights, as mentioned by Botond. Starting with the portfolio, which is on slide number 5—as of the end of June 2026, the total investment gap stands at €2.7 million, essentially flat versus year-end.
Speaker #2: Adjusted total investment portfolio, excluding non-current financial assets—which is mainly Kildare—is €2.6 billion. The composition remains broadly stable: 89% of the adjusted total portfolio is income-generating, of which 50% is office, 31% retail, and 19% residential.
Jacek Bagiński: The composition remains broadly stable. 89% of the adjusted total portfolio is income generating, of which 50% is office, 31% retail, and 19% residential. Projects under construction represent 6%, and the land bank, 4% of the total. Gross asset value of the income-generating portfolio is also essentially flat. It is at €2.3 billion, versus €2.3 billion last year, office essentially flat. Retail is a little bit up to EUR 780 million. Residential is down to EUR 445 million. Magda, if you can please turn to slide number 6. Thank you. On the commercial portfolio, let me cover retail and office together as they appear on the slide. Retail occupancy stands at 96% as of 30 June this year, back at the same level as the year-end. Leasing activity in the H1 of this year reached over 28,000 square meters.
Speaker #2: Projects under construction represent 6% and the land bank 4% of the total. The gross asset value of the income-generating portfolio is also essentially flat—it's at €2.3 billion versus €3.3 billion last year. Office is essentially flat.
Speaker #2: Retail is a little bit up to 718 million. Residential is down to 445 million. Magda, could you please turn to slide number 6? Thank you.
Speaker #2: On the commercial portfolio, let me cover retail and office together as they appear on the slide. Retail occupancy stands at 96% as of 30 June this year.
Speaker #2: Back at the same level as the year-end. Leasing activity in the first half of this year reached over 28,000 square meters. Office occupancy improved to 84% as of the end of June, from 83% at the year-end.
Jacek Bagiński: Office occupancy improved to 84% as of end of June from 83% at the year-end. Poland obviously remains our softest market at 76%, essentially unchanged, where we continue to work through the vacancies in selected assets in order to reduce them. Magda, if you can turn to slide number 8, which is our consolidated income statement. As Botond already mentioned, our revenue from rental activity was EUR 106 million, up by 5% comparing to H1 2025. Germany was stable at EUR 12 million both periods, so the growth essentially comes from the rest of the group, which is the growth from EUR 89 million to EUR 94 million on the rental activity. The increase was driven mainly by higher rents in Southeast Europe, and in Polish malls, and in the office sectors in Hungary and Poland.
Speaker #2: Leasing activity was strong at close to 41,000 square meters. Poland obviously remains our softest market at 76%, essentially unchanged, where we continue to work through the vacancies in selected assets in order to reduce them.
Speaker #2: Magda, if you can turn to slide number 8, which is our consolidated income statement. As Botond already mentioned, our revenue from rental activity was €106 million, up by 5% compared to the first half of 2025.
Speaker #2: Germany was stable at 12 million in both periods. So, the growth essentially comes from the rest of the group, which is the increase from 89 million to 94 million in rental activity.
Speaker #2: The increase was driven mainly by higher rents in South-East Europe and in Polish malls, and in the office sectors in Hungary and Poland. On a like-for-like basis, the group recorded 2% rental growth in the first half of 2026 compared to last year.
Jacek Bagiński: On like-for-like basis, the group recorded 2% rental growth in the H1 2025 compared to last year. Cost of rental operations fell down from EUR 35 million to EUR 33 million, 4% decrease, mainly driven by the Polish and Hungarian operations. Gross margin from the operating activity increased to 10% to EUR 473 million, and the margin increased as a percentage from 65% to 68%. That is a solid gain, mainly driven by Poland, then Serbia and Hungary. This reflects obviously a stronger like-for-like rental performance, our effort in order to reduce the service and property costs, and decrease obviously, the service charge leakage in consequence. On administrative expenses, also we have some success here. We reduced the cost from EUR 13 million to EUR 11 million, which is 13%, mainly due to reduction of the personal expenses and advisory costs.
Speaker #2: Cost of rental operations fell from €35 million to €33 million, a 4% decrease, mainly driven by the Polish and Hungarian operations. Gross margin from the operating activity increased by 10% to €73 million, and the margin OCE increased as a percentage from 65% to 68%.
Speaker #2: That's a solid gain, mainly driven by Poland. Then Serbia and Hungary—this reflects, obviously, stronger luck for rental performance; our effort in order to reduce the service and property costs, and decrease, obviously, the service charge leakage and consequence.
Speaker #2: On administrative expenses, also, we have some success here—reduced the cost from 13 to 11 million, which is a 13% decrease, mainly due to reduction of personnel expenses and advisory costs.
Speaker #2: On EBITDA, EBITDA was 60 million in the first half of this year, up 12% from last year. Adjusted EBITDA was 63 million, up 11% compared to last year.
Jacek Bagiński: EBITDA was EUR 60 million in the H1 of this year, up 12% from last year. Adjusted EBITDA was 63%, up 11% comparing to last year. Below EBITDA line, as you can see, we have unfortunately the loss from the revaluation of the assets, which widened to EUR 22 million in the H1 of this year from EUR 14 million last year. This was mainly driven by the negative fair value adjustment of certain offices in Poland and Hungary, and on the residential portfolio in Germany. Partially, this was offset by the positive fair value adjustment on malls in Poland and Bulgaria. Net finance costs, on the other hand, increased from EUR 36 million to EUR 45 million. This reflects the transitional overlap we described in the Q1.
Speaker #2: Below the EBITDA line, as you can see, we have unfortunately the loss from the revaluation of the assets, which widened to €22 million in the first half of this year from €14 million last year.
Speaker #2: This was mainly driven by the negative fair value adjustment for certain offices in Poland and Hungary, and on the residential portfolio in Germany. Partially, this was offset by the positive fair value adjustment on malls in Poland and in Bulgaria.
Speaker #2: Net finance costs, on the other hand, increased from €36 million to €45 million. This reflects the transitional overlap with disruptions in the first half and in the first quarter.
Jacek Bagiński: As you know, interest on the newly issued bonds of 455 million volume was at 6.5%, comparing to 2.3%, 2.4% that we paid on the bonds last year. This is mainly the biggest driver of the increase of the finance costs. Taxation increased from 4% to 10%, but this was mainly driven by the deferred income tax provision we recorded this year. The current tax paid was at a similar level to last year. Putting this together, the period result is a loss of EUR 18 million. That's basically, as you see, mainly driven by the revaluation loss, higher finance costs, and the tax line, mainly driven by the provision of the deferred income tax recorded. On the other hand, as Botond was mentioning, the operating results are pretty decent with a solid increase of EBITDA by 11% or 12% year-on-year basis.
Speaker #2: As you know, interest on the newly issued bonds of €455 million was at 6.5%, compared to the 2.3 or 2.4% that we paid on the bonds last year.
Speaker #2: So, this is mainly the biggest driver of the increase in finance costs. Taxation increased from 4 to 10, but this was mainly driven by the deferred income tax provision to be recorded this year. The current tax paid was at a similar level to last year.
Speaker #2: Putting this together there is the period result is a loss of 18 million. And that's basically as you see it's mainly driven by the revaluation loss higher finance costs and the tax line mainly driven by the provision of the on the deferred income tax recorded.
Speaker #2: On the other hand, as Botond was mentioning, the operating results are pretty decent, with a solid increase of EBITDA by 11 or 12% on a year-on-year basis.
Speaker #2: Magda, if you can turn to the cash flow. Thank you. Operating cash flow was at €46 million, broadly stable year on year, mainly driven by the better operating cash flow before working capital. We have some unfavorable working capital changes related to some prepayments that we had to make, but obviously, we will focus more on that during the second half of the year.
Jacek Bagiński: Magda, if you can turn to the cash flow. Thank you. Operating cash flow was at EUR 46 million, broadly stable year-on-year, mainly driven by the better operating cash flow before working capital. We have some unfavorable working capital changes related to some repayments that we had to make. We will focus more during the H2 of the year to manage that, let's say, working capital better. On investment activity, CapEx was EUR 40 million, down by EUR 12 million comparing to last year. This was mainly driven by obviously the fit-out and CapEx related to the properties and the increase of the occupancy of these properties. We also spent approximately EUR 15 million of the CapEx related to completion of Center Point Office in Budapest. We received EUR 9 million from the sales of part of our residential land bank and residential units.
Speaker #2: To manage that, let's say, working capital better. On investment activity, CAPEX was €40 million, down by €12 million compared to last year. This was mainly driven, obviously, by the fit-out and CAPEX related to the properties and the increase of the occupancy of the properties. But also, we spent approximately €15 million of the CAPEX related to the completion of the CP3 office in Budapest.
Speaker #2: We received €9 million from the sales of part of our residential land bank and residential units, and this is obviously, as Botond was saying, that the amount of profits is substantially higher in Q3 this year because of the further disposals of the Avenue Mall and other assets.
Jacek Bagiński: This is obviously, as Balazs was saying, that amount of the proceeds is substantially higher in Q3 this year because of the further disposals of the Avenue Mall and other assets. The large inflow, investing inflow of EUR 209 million, is mainly dominated by EUR 239 million change in deposits, reflected utilization of cash that we had on the escrow account to finance the repayment of the old bonds. On financing, we drew EUR 46 million in long-term borrowings, mainly we've drawn some top-up on the Galeria Północna, and we obviously refinance a number of assets. EUR 336 million repayment line mainly reflects the repayment of GTC bonds or Aurora bonds, as we call them, and the scheduled amortization of the bank loans. Net interest paid obviously was higher comparing to last year, mainly driven by the refinancing of the bonds.
Speaker #2: The large investing inflow of 209 million is mainly dominated by a 239 million change in deposits, which reflects the utilization of cash that we had in the escrow account to finance the repayment of the old bonds.
Speaker #2: On financing, we drew €46 million in long-term borrowings, mainly on the withdrawn some top-up on the Galleria Północna, and we obviously refinanced a number of assets.
Speaker #2: The 336 million repayment line mainly reflects the repayment of GTC bonds, or Aurora bonds as we call them, and the scheduled amortization of the bank loans.
Speaker #2: Net interest paid, obviously, was higher compared to last year, mainly driven by the refinancing of the bonds. The net cash movement for the half of the year was a decrease of €73 million versus an increase of €25 million last year. The cash at the end of the period was €34 million, down from €118 million last year, and again, this is largely a function of the bond repayment, as we used part of our own cash to fully repay the bonds maturing.
Jacek Bagiński: The net cash movement for H1 of the year was a decrease of EUR 73 million versus an increase of EUR 25 million in last year. The cash at the end of the period was EUR 34 million, down from EUR 80 million last year. Again, this is largely a function of the bond repayment, that obviously we use part of our own cash to fully repay the bonds maturing. If you can turn to the balance sheet page, Magda, please. Thank you. On the balance sheet, I'll keep it brief. There are not so many changes. The total asset decreased from EUR 3.3 million to EUR 2.9 million, mainly due to the utilization of cash held on the accounts to repay the bonds that I mentioned already just a minute ago.
Speaker #2: If you can turn to the balance sheet page, Magda, please. Thank you. On the balance sheet, I’ll keep it brief. There are not so many changes. The total assets decreased from €3.3 million to €2.9 million, mainly due to the utilization of cash held on the accounts to repay the bonds that I mentioned already just a minute ago.
Speaker #2: The asset held for sale increased from €20 million to €135 million, reflecting exactly the reclassification of properties, which were, for the majority, sold—which is Avenue Mall and Avenue Center—and some additional German units and land in Romania.
Jacek Bagiński: The assets held for sale increased from EUR 20 million to EUR 135 million, reflecting exactly the reclassification of properties, which were in majority sold, which is Avenue Mall and Avenue Center, and some additional German units and land in Romania. Deposits held obviously down from EUR 290 million to EUR 43 million, which is again, related to the repayment of the bonds. What is worth to mention is that short-term financing debt fell from close to EUR 900 million to EUR 350 million, mainly on the repayment of the bonds, but also the effort that the company made on the extension of the financing. Magda, if you can turn on the last slide, which is a debt profile slide. Sorry. Net debt stands at approximately EUR 1.6 billion. LTV went up, unfortunately, from 57% to 58.7%.
Speaker #2: Deposits fell, obviously, down from 290 million to 43 million, which is again related to the repayment of the bonds. What is worth mentioning is that short-term financing debt fell from close to 900 million to 350 million, mainly due to the repayment of the bonds, but also due to the efforts that the company made on the extension of the financing.
Speaker #2: And Magda, if you can turn on the left, last slide, which is the debt profile slide. Sorry. So net debt stands at approximately €1.6 billion. LTV went up unfortunately from 57% to 58.7%. Maybe a side note is that the LTV calculated for the purpose of the euro bonds is lower than 58.7%; there's a special definition in the documentation which basically results, as I said, in a lower LTV than 58.7% for the computation of the euro bonds.
Jacek Bagiński: Maybe a side note is that the LTV calculated for the purpose of the Euro bonds is lower than 58.7%. There is a special definition in documentation, which basically results, as I said, in lower LTV than 58.7% for the computation of the Euro bonds covenant. Basically, the drivers of that change was the decrease of the cash on the accounts, mainly driven by the fact that we had to repay the bonds. This was the main reason of the increase of the LTV. On the positive side note, weighted average debt maturity improved substantially to 3.9 years from 2.9 years, reflecting the extension and refinancing completed during the H1. I will also note that additional EUR 130 million of senior loans, which you see as a current loans as of end of Q2, were already extended in Q3.
Speaker #2: Covenant. Basically, the drivers of that change were the decrease of cash on the accounts, mainly driven by the fact that we had to repay the bonds, and this was mainly the main reason for the increase in the LTV.
Speaker #2: On a positive note, weighted average debt maturity improved substantially to 3.9 years from 2.9 years, reflecting the extension refinancing completed during the half of the year.
Speaker #2: I'll also note that an additional €130 million of senior loans, which you see as current loans as of the end of Q2, were already extended in Q3.
Speaker #2: So, basically, the balance of, let's say, this €100 million debt—€347 million of the loans maturing in one year—will decrease by the €130 million in Q3 this year.
Jacek Bagiński: Basically, the balance of, let us say, that EUR 347 million of the loans maturing in one year will decrease by EUR 113 million in Q3 this year. Weighted average interest rate, unfortunately, went up from 4.5% to 5.3%. Again, the major driver is the refinancing of the bonds which occurred at the end of 2025. That is all on my side. Botond, please, back to you.
Speaker #2: The weighted average interest rate unfortunately went up from 4.5% to 5.3%, and again, the major driver is the refinancing of the bonds, which occurred at the end of 2025.
Speaker #2: So, that's all on my side. So Botond, please, back to you.
Speaker #1: Thank you very much, Jacek. I think, just to repeat a little bit and wrap up where we are after the first half, basically, I think we have managed to improve the business in a sustainable way.
Botond Rencz: Thank you very much, Jacek. I think just to repeat a little bit, wrap up where we are after the H1. Basically, I think we have managed to improve the business in a sustainable way. There were some one-off items, but the majority of the changes are sustainable. The growth in revenue margin, EBITDA, are all going to the right direction, and the asset values were also relatively stable. I think, Jacek, you spoke quite a lot about the leverage component. For us, the most important component is that the maturity profile is now significantly healthier where it was at the short term, I would say, refreshment of the loans are done. We are making progress. I am also a little bit impatient with the disposals, but we also do not want to sell assets at values which are unacceptable for us.
Speaker #1: There were some one-off items, but the majority of the changes are sustainable. The growth in revenue, margin, and EBITDA are all going in the right direction, and the asset values were also relatively stable.
Speaker #1: I think, Jacek, you spoke quite a lot about the leverage component. For us, the most important component is that the maturity profile is now significantly healthier than it was, and the short-term, I would say, refreshment of the loans is done.
Speaker #1: So, we are making progress. I'm also a little bit impatient with the disposals, but we also do not want to sell assets at values which are unacceptable for us.
Speaker #1: And our balance sheet now is stronger than it was earlier. So overall, I expect that the second half of the year is going to be better with the disposals, and we will continue the operational efficiency improvements that we have already implemented for the first half.
Botond Rencz: Our balance sheet now is stronger than it was earlier. Overall, I expect that the H2 of the year is going to be better with the disposals, and we will continue the operational efficiency improvements that we have already implemented for the H1. I think this is my short summary, and I would like to hand over back to you, Michał, so that we start the Q&A session.
Speaker #1: So, I think this is my short summary, and I would like to hand over back to you, Michal, so that we can start the Q&A session.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Botond. So I'll hand over to Alex to remind us, and to remind the participants, how they should ask questions, please.
Michał Kuzawiński: Thank you, Botond. I will hand over to Alex to remind the participants how they should ask questions, please.
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Speaker #3: Thanks a lot, Alex. We did receive a few of the first questions. We have the first question from Cezar Bernatek from Ersta. The question reads: How do you assess the valuation outlook for the more mature office assets in GTC's Polish and Hungarian business?
Michał Kuzawiński: Thanks a lot, Alex, and we did receive a few of the first questions. We have the first question from Cezar Bernat from ERSTE. The question reads: How do you assess the valuation outlook for the more mature office assets in GTC Polish and Hungarian business?
Jacek Bagiński: Maybe I will start to elaborate on it. Guys, as you remember, at the year-end of 2025, the company recorded massive write-offs on the assets, mainly the office buildings. There were also some write-offs of the offices in Q1 and Q2 this year. I think that in regards to the, let's say, let me call it adjustments of the value of the assets that we had on the books in last years to today's, we already made a substantial effort in order to reflect that, let's say, to making the write-offs, to reflect the real value of the assets. This is point number one. Point number two, obviously, is that we are working on the increase of the occupancy, in Polish offices, which basically, as you remember, we have 76% of occupancy only, and in Hungary as well.
Speaker #2: Maybe I will start to elaborate on it. So, guys, as you remember, at the year end of 2025, the company recorded massive write-offs on the assets, mainly the office buildings.
Speaker #2: There were also some write-offs of the office on the offices in Q1 and Q2 this year so I think that in regard to the let's say to the let me call it adjustments of the value of the assets that we had on the books in last years to today's we already made a substantial effort in order to reflect that let's say through making the write-offs to reflect the real value of the assets.
Speaker #2: So this is point number one. Point number two, obviously, is that we are working on increasing the occupancy in Polish offices, which, as you remember, is currently at only 76%. This also applies to offices in Hungary.
Speaker #2: There are some very positive messages that we are hearing from the Hungarian market, so we hope to maintain the value of the assets on the books, but obviously, there is a risk.
Jacek Bagiński: There are some very positive messages that we are hearing from the Hungarian market. We hope to maintain the value of the assets on the books, but obviously, there is a risk. There is some risk that we will see further deterioration of that value. Hopefully, it won't be a substantial number. As I said, we are simply work on the increase of occupancy, and the substantial write-offs on the assets were already made at the end of 2025.
Speaker #2: There is some risk that we will see further deterioration of that value. Hopefully, it won't be a substantial number, but as I said, we simply work on the increase of occupancy, and the substantial write-offs on the assets were already made at the end of 2025.
Speaker #3: Cezar also wants to ask if we can share any potential time frame for the strategic options review launched recently, referring to the current report we published a few weeks ago.
Michał Kuzawiński: Cezar also wants to ask if we can share any potential timeframe for the strategic options review launched recently, referring to the current report we published a few weeks ago.
Speaker #1: I think maybe I can answer that question, although it will unfortunately be a very short answer. We are not aware of any timeline with respect to that current report.
Botond Rencz: I think maybe I can answer that question. It will be, unfortunately, a very short answer. We are not aware of any timeline with respect of that current report.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Botond, and these were the questions from Cezar. So now we have a round of questions from Jakub Kajtamel from Łódź. Maybe I will read them one by one.
Michał Kuzawiński: Thank you, Botond, and these were the questions from Cezar. Now we have a round of questions from Jakub Kajan from Wood. Maybe I will read them one by one. Jakub would like to have an update on the Kildare plot monetization, if we can share any insights on this. Then the second question is about the German disposals, if we can comment on the progress so far and any challenges with the disposal program in Germany. Finally, the third question from Jakub is the expected maintenance and fit-out CapEx guidance for the H2 of this year.
Speaker #3: So, Jakub would like to have an update on the Kiltera plot monetization, if we can share any insights on this. Then the second question is about the German disposals.
Speaker #3: If we can comment on the progress so far and any challenges with the disposal program in Germany. And finally, the third question from Jakub is the expected maintenance and fit-out capex guidance for the second half of this year.
Jacek Bagiński: Bozo, do you want to say on to Darren? Yes. Let me start with the Irish one. We do not have very specific deadline about that potential transaction. Because of its legal structure, it is not a very simple plain vanilla, let's say, ownership. We are looking at various options. I would say at this stage, I cannot say anything more specific about that transaction. We are considering it, and we are in talks. Okay. On Germany, maybe I will elaborate. We are advancing in the process of disposal of that portfolio. We negotiate a couple of LOIs on a number of apartments or condominiums. We expect that the value and the process from the disposals in Germany will substantially increase comparing to the H1 of this year.
Speaker #2: Botond, do you want to say anything on Kill there?
Speaker #1: Yes, let me start with the Irish one. We do not have a very specific deadline for that potential transaction. Because of its legal structure, it is not a very simple pre-money law—let’s say, ownership.
Speaker #1: We are looking at various options. But at this I would say at this stage I cannot say anything more specific about that transaction. But we are considering it and we are in talks okay.
Speaker #2: So, on Germany—maybe I will elaborate. We are advancing in the process of disposal of the portfolio. We are negotiating a couple of LOIs on a number of apartments or condominiums. We expect that the value and the proceeds from the disposals in Germany will substantially increase compared to the first half of this year.
Speaker #2: And on the capex, meaning fit-out and capex for the second half of the year, this would be around €20 to €25 million.
Jacek Bagiński: On the CapEx, meaning fit-out and CapEx for the H2 of the year, this would be around EUR 20 to 25 million.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Jacek. Now we have a question from Emma Otmani. Could you please share your guidance for the full year 2026 in terms of EBITDA, capex, and asset disposals?
Michał Kuzawiński: Thank you, Jacek. Now we have a question from Emma Otmani. Could you please share your guidance for the full year 2026 in terms of EBITDA, CapEx, and asset disposals?
Speaker #2: Michal, I'm not sure if we provided any guidance.
Jacek Bagiński: Michal, I am not sure if we provided any guidance.
Speaker #3: We don't provide guidance. We don't publish guidance. That is the answer. Okay, we move to the next question from Anders Skovgaard.
Michał Kuzawiński: Correct. We do not provide any guidance. We do not publish guidance, is the answer. We move to the next question from Anders Skovgaard. Somewhat related already to the question from Cezar Bernat, but let me read. We continue to see negative fair value adjustment in this quarter. Have the entire portfolio been revalued now, or will we continue to see negative fair value impact going forward?
Speaker #3: This is somewhat related to the previous question from Cezar, but let me read it. We continue to see a negative fair value adjustment in this quarter.
Speaker #3: Has the entire portfolio been revalued now, or will we continue to see negative fair value impact going forward?
Speaker #2: As I said, at the end of 2025 we made a substantial impairment on the assets. So, this is point number one. Point number two, obviously, is that we are spending the capex.
Jacek Bagiński: As I said, at the end of 2025, we made a substantial impairment on the assets. This is point number one. Point number two, obviously, is that we are spending the CapEx for the fit-out and the maintenance of the buildings. So far, we are only partially successful in capitalizing that CapEx to the properties. If this continue further, basically, there will be some write-offs related to the part of the CapEx and fit-outs that we spent on the buildings, but we cannot capitalize simply because our valuers are of the opinion that they do not increase the value of the property sufficiently. Going forward, also, we are cautiously optimistic that we will not have to make any additional write-offs on the offices. But again, it is also driven by the market, by the liquidity.
Speaker #2: For the fit-out and the maintenance of the buildings so far, we are only partially successful in capitalizing that capex to the properties. So, if this continues further, basically there will be some write-offs related to the part of the capex and fit-outs that we spent on the buildings but we cannot capitalize, simply because our valuers are of the opinion that they do not increase the value of the properties sufficiently.
Speaker #2: And going forward also we are cautiously optimistic that you know that we will not have to make any additional write-offs on the offices but again it's also driven by the market by the liquidity we have a number of assets in smaller cities in Poland so they are exposed to certain devaluation on the other hand we see some positive movements on the Hungarian market in regard of the leasing activity so I would say are we I think are cautiously optimistic that we could keep that value on the books but again I cannot exclude that valuers and auditors will have a different opinion on it.
Jacek Bagiński: We have a number of assets in smaller cities in Poland, so they are exposed to certain devaluation. On the other hand, we see some positive movements on the Hungarian market in regard of the leasing activity. I would say, I think are cautiously optimistic that we could keep that value on the books. But again, I cannot exclude that valuers and auditors will have a different opinion on it.
Speaker #3: And Anders is asking: How does the deleveraging disposal pipeline look for the next 12 months?
Michał Kuzawiński: Anders is asking, how does the deleveraging disposal pipeline look for the next 12 months?
Speaker #2: We have you know as we said at the beginning of the year we are we have a larger program of disposing of the assets.
Jacek Bagiński: As we said at the beginning of the year, we have a larger program of disposing of the assets. That program obviously will materialize, or you will see material effect of this program already in the H2 of the year with disposal of Avenue Mall and some other assets from our portfolio that we executed in Q3. I do not want to give any number in regard to the total profit from disposal and the value of the assets to be sold, but again, deleveraging is our major focus. We are taking all possible efforts in order to decrease LTV.
Speaker #2: That program obviously will materialize, or you will see material effect of this program, already in the second half of the year with disposal of Avenue Mall and some other assets from our portfolio that we executed in Q3.
Speaker #2: I don't want to give any number in regard to the total profits from disposal or the value of the assets to be sold, but again, the leveraging is our major focus.
Speaker #2: So we are doing all we can; we're taking all possible efforts in order to decrease LTV.
Speaker #3: And Anders would also like to know which loans we need to roll over in the next 12 months, and what is the progress on these?
Michał Kuzawiński: Anders also would like to know what loans do we need to roll over of the next 12 months, and what is the progress on these?
Speaker #2: So basically, as you saw on that last slide, there were €350 million of loans maturing within the next 12 months, out of which €130 million was already extended, so we talk about €220 million, right, of the loans. These are, I would say, normal loans secured on the assets, which we are pretty confident that we'll be able to extend.
Jacek Bagiński: Basically, as you saw on that last slide, there was a EUR 350 million loans maturing within the next 12 months, out of which 130 was already extended. We talk about EUR 220 million of the loans. These are, I would say, normal loans secured on the assets, which we are pretty confident that we will be able to extend. These are like mortgage loans provided to finance separate assets, which normally mature every five years. Here, we do not see any risk related with not being able to refinance or to extend that loans for the next couple of years.
Speaker #2: So these are like mortgage loans provided to finance separate assets, which normally mature every five years. So here we do not see any risk related to not being able to refinance or to extend those loans for the next couple of years.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Jacek. And Michal Majerski had a similar question, effectively asking how we are planning to, well, repay this remaining amount of €220 million.
Michał Kuzawiński: Thank you, Jacek. Michal Majersky had a similar question, effectively asking how we are planning to repay this remaining amount of EUR 220 million. I understand the answer is that we are planning to roll these loans over.
Speaker #3: So, I understand that the answer is we are planning to roll these loans over.
Jacek Bagiński: We will roll them over. Yeah.
Speaker #2: Yeah.
Speaker #3: Okay, so I hope that, Michal, your question is addressed with this. If not, let's talk offline. Also, Anders, I will come back to you on your technical question about the Kildare issue that you have raised. I will share the answer offline by email as well.
Michał Kuzawiński: Okay. I hope that, Michal, your question is addressed with this. If not, let's talk offline. Also, Anders, I will come back to you on your technical question about the Kildare issue that you have raised. I will share the answer offline by email. At this point in time, we have no further questions. Thank you for your participation. Thank you for your questions. If you still have any questions, then please reach out to us. We will come back to you on all of the other points that you have raised during the call today. Thank you.
Speaker #3: At this point in time, we have no further questions. So, yeah, thank you for your participation. Thank you for your questions. If you still have any questions, then please reach out to us.
Speaker #3: We will come back to you on all of the other points that you have raised during the call today. Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you.
Jacek Bagiński: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you.
Botond Rencz: Thank you.
Operator: Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.
