Q2 2026 Pexip Holding ASA Earnings Call

August 13, 2026

Speaker #1: Good morning, and welcome to this presentation of Pexip's second quarter results. My name is Trond Johannessen, and I'm the CEO. Together with me here at Lysaker I have Øystein Hem, our CFO, and Åsmund Fodstad, our Chief Revenue Officer.

Speaker #1: Together we will take you through the highlights of the quarter. The standard disclaimers apply as usual. First, a brief overview of Pexip for those new to the company.

Speaker #1: Pexip was founded in 2012 and currently we operate in 25 countries across the globe. We are a secure video meeting and video infrastructure company, delivering software and software as a service.

Speaker #1: Pexip has unique and established partnerships with the leading companies in our industry. We complement and enhance their solutions, and do not generally directly compete.

Speaker #1: Our customers are mainly large organizations, both in the private and public sector, that have specific needs when it comes to interoperability, security, and data control.

Speaker #1: The financial performance has been strong, and has been continuously improving over the last quarters. Now to the highlights of the past quarter. Our annual recurring revenues continue to grow, and this quarter we grew with 5.2 million dollars.

Speaker #1: And this gives us an ARR base leaving Q2 of 140 million dollars. In Q2 we had continued strong growth in our secure and custom business area, with new ARR of 4.9 million dollars coming from this area.

Speaker #1: A large part of this came from defense and national security, which is a core segment to Pexip, and I'll come back to that. Connected spaces also grew slightly in the quarter, which is good to see.

Speaker #1: EBITDA came in at 7.2 million dollars, and cash flow ended at 8.1 million dollars. If we look at our second quarter performance in the context of the last 12 months, we see that the positive trend from the previous quarters continues.

Speaker #1: Our total ARR continues to grow, and year over year the growth rate was 18%. Our 12-month rolling EBITDA reached 40 million US dollars, which is a 60% improvement since second quarter last year.

Speaker #1: This corresponds to a 31% EBITDA margin. And finally, also our free cash flow continues to grow and ended at 38 million dollars for the last 12 months.

Speaker #1: We do take this performance as evidence that we are operating an attractive market with relevant products and a strong market position. As most of you know, Pexip has two main solution areas.

Speaker #1: Pexip's secure and custom, which is about privately hosted video meetings that give complete privacy and data control, with the desired level of customization. And Pexip Connected Spaces, which is about video meeting interoperability, by enabling any meeting room to connect to any meeting platform.

Speaker #1: Now a few words about each business area. In secure and custom, we are targeting a segment of the video conferencing market that is largely unserved by the major players like Teams, Zoom, Google, and Webex.

Speaker #1: The market is growing fast, and currently we estimate an addressable annual market for Pexip of above 1 billion US dollars. We are catering to those organizations that have limitations with respect to use of global cloud platforms, such as Azure, GCP, or AWS.

Speaker #1: And consequently have a need for their video conferencing software to run in controlled IT environments. Either self-hosted or in private or sovereign clouds. Pexip's technology is very well suited for these use cases, due to its deployment flexibility, open interfaces, and modern user experience.

Speaker #1: As a result of this clear market focus, and recognized competitive advantages, 57% of Pexip's recurring revenues are now linked to customers deploying Pexip in self-hosted environments or dedicated sovereign clouds.

Speaker #1: This is a combination of our secure and custom customers, and a number of self-hosted software customers using Pexip mainly for interoperability. One such example is organizations using Pexip in combination with Teams, in closed US government Microsoft clouds.

Speaker #1: As a result of this clear market focus and recognized competitive advantages, 57% of Pexip's recurring revenues are now linked to customers deploying Pexip in self-hosted environments or dedicated sovereign clouds.

Trond K. Johannessen: As a result of this clear market focus and recognized competitive advantages, 57% of Pexip's recurring revenues are now linked to customers deploying Pexip in self-hosted environments or dedicated sovereign clouds. This is a combination of our Secure and Custom customers and a number of self-hosted software customers using Pexip mainly for interoperability. One such example is organizations using Pexip in combination with Teams in closed US government Microsoft clouds. Going forward, we do expect the 57% to increase as more on-premises and sovereign infrastructure is built for organizations with specific requirements for security and data control. Defense is a key segment for Pexip and currently around 15% of Pexip's total ARR is linked to defense and national security. Pexip is mainly used for secure video meetings or interoperability in dedicated IT environments.

Trond Johannessen: As a result of this clear market focus and recognized competitive advantages, 57% of Pexip's recurring revenues are now linked to customers deploying Pexip in self-hosted environments or dedicated sovereign clouds. This is a combination of our Secure and Custom customers and a number of self-hosted software customers using Pexip mainly for interoperability. One such example is organizations using Pexip in combination with Teams in closed US government Microsoft clouds. Going forward, we do expect the 57% to increase as more on-premises and sovereign infrastructure is built for organizations with specific requirements for security and data control. Defense is a key segment for Pexip and currently around 15% of Pexip's total ARR is linked to defense and national security. Pexip is mainly used for secure video meetings or interoperability in dedicated IT environments.

Speaker #1: Going forward, we do expect the 57% to increase, as more on-premises and sovereign infrastructure is built for organizations with specific requirements for security and data control.

Speaker #1: Defense is a key segment for Pexip, and currently around 15% of Pexip's total ARR is linked to Pexip is mainly used for secure video meetings or interoperability, in dedicated IT environments.

Speaker #1: government Microsoft clouds. Going forward, we do expect the 57% to increase, as more on-premises and sovereign infrastructure is built for organizations with specific requirements for security and data control.

Speaker #1: But recently we also see positive developments in tactical use cases where Pexip is used out in the field. Increasingly, video is used for better situational awareness, through transfer of live video streams from drones into mobile command centers, armored vehicles, tanks, and even all the way back to headquarters.

Speaker #1: Defense is a key segment for Pexip, and currently around 15% of Pexip's total ARR is linked to defense and national security. Pexip is mainly used for secure video meetings or interoperability, in dedicated IT environments.

Speaker #1: Pexip's technology works really well in these scenarios, and we're constantly expanding our partnerships and position in this ecosystem. Let me hand it over to my colleague Nick Ross, Director of Defense and National Security, and former reconnaissance operator in the British Army, to explain a bit more.

Speaker #1: But recently, we also see positive developments in tactical use cases where Pexip is used out in the field. Increasingly, video is used for better situational awareness through the transfer of live video streams from drones into mobile command centers, armored vehicles, tanks, and even all the way back to headquarters.

Trond K. Johannessen: Recently, we also see positive developments in tactical use cases where Pexip is used out in the field. Increasingly, video is used for better situational awareness through transfer of live video streams from drones into mobile command centers, armored vehicles, tanks, and even all the way back to headquarters. Pexip's technology works really well in these scenarios, and we are constantly expanding our partnerships and position in this ecosystem. Let me hand it over to my colleague, Nick Ross, Director of Defense and National Security and former reconnaissance operator in the British Army, to explain a bit more.

Trond Johannessen: Recently, we also see positive developments in tactical use cases where Pexip is used out in the field. Increasingly, video is used for better situational awareness through transfer of live video streams from drones into mobile command centers, armored vehicles, tanks, and even all the way back to headquarters. Pexip's technology works really well in these scenarios, and we are constantly expanding our partnerships and position in this ecosystem. Let me hand it over to my colleague, Nick Ross, Director of Defense and National Security and former reconnaissance operator in the British Army, to explain a bit more.

Speaker #2: I was a soldier with UK forces for just over 10 years. As a reconnaissance operator, you are the eyes and ears of the force.

Speaker #1: PEXIP's technology works really well in these scenarios, and we're constantly expanding our partnerships and position in this ecosystem. Let me hand it over to my colleague, Nico Ross, Director of Defense and National Security, and former reconnaissance operator in the British Army, to explain a bit more.

Speaker #2: With your patrol radio in the reconnaissance role, you had to interpret what you were seeing on the ground. You'd have to describe it over the radio and headquarters would be completely reliant on what it is that you thought you were seeing but if you had video it would allow you to be much more of a collaborative element.

Speaker #2: I was a soldier with UK forces for just over 10 years. As a reconnaissance operator, you are the eyes and ears of the force.

Speaker #2: What's really important is to have a video platform that works across all environments. Video allows commanders to cut through in a way which is really unique.

Nick Ross: I was a soldier with UK forces for just over 10 years. As a reconnaissance operator, you are the eyes and ears of the force. With your patrol radio in the reconnaissance role, you had to interpret what you were seeing on the ground. You would have to describe it over the radio, and headquarters would be completely reliant on what it is that you thought you were seeing. But if you had video, it would allow you to be much more of a collaborative element. What is really important is to have a video platform that works across all environments. Video allows commanders to cut through in a way which is really unique. Ultimately, it is two or more humans collaborating on taking the best possible decision and using the least possible time to do that.

Speaker #2: With your patrol radio in the reconnaissance role, you had to interpret what you were seeing on the ground. You'd have to describe it over the radio, and headquarters would be completely reliant on what it is that you thought you were seeing.

Speaker #2: Ultimately it's two or more humans collaborating on taking the best possible decision and using the least possible time to do that.

Speaker #1: Thank you, Nick. Now moving over to another key focus area for Pexip, namely AI. Organizations with strict requirements for data control would also like to have access to AI functionality.

Speaker #2: But if you had video, it would allow you to be much more of a collaborative element. What's really important is to have a video platform that works across all environments.

Speaker #2: Video allows commanders to cut through in a way which is really unique. Ultimately, it's two or more humans collaborating to make the best possible decision and using the least possible time to do that.

Speaker #1: But deployed in their approved environment. Video meetings constitute an important input source for any AI productivity tool. And Pexip, as a self-hosted meeting platform, can enable advanced private AI capabilities.

Speaker #1: Thank you, Nick. Now, moving over to another key focus area for Pexip, namely AI. Organizations with strict requirements for data control would also like to have access to AI functionality.

Speaker #1: Pexip can privately and securely exchange relevant meeting platform information to a completely private LLM on the customer's network. For example, Pexip meetings can connect to and use Google Gemini self-hosted and keep all data fully within the organization's own control.

Trond K. Johannessen: Thank you, Nick. Now moving over to another key focus area for Pexip, namely AI. Organizations with strict requirements for data control would also like to have access to AI functionality, but deployed in their approved environment. Video meetings constitute an important input source for any AI productivity tool. Pexip, as a self-hosted meeting platform, can enable advanced private AI capabilities. Pexip can privately and securely exchange relevant meeting platform information to a completely private LLM on the customer's network. For example, Pexip meetings can connect to and use Google Gemini self-hosted and keep all data fully within the organization's own control. Another key area of AI application in Pexip is building customer-specific integrations and video applications. Pexip is uniquely flexible to integrate and adapt to fit with specific use cases.

Trond Johannessen: Thank you, Nick. Now moving over to another key focus area for Pexip, namely AI. Organizations with strict requirements for data control would also like to have access to AI functionality, but deployed in their approved environment. Video meetings constitute an important input source for any AI productivity tool. Pexip, as a self-hosted meeting platform, can enable advanced private AI capabilities. Pexip can privately and securely exchange relevant meeting platform information to a completely private LLM on the customer's network. For example, Pexip meetings can connect to and use Google Gemini self-hosted and keep all data fully within the organization's own control. Another key area of AI application in Pexip is building customer-specific integrations and video applications. Pexip is uniquely flexible to integrate and adapt to fit with specific use cases.

Speaker #1: But deployed in their approved environment. Video meetings constitute an important input source for any AI productivity tool, and Pexip, as a self-hosted meeting platform, can enable advanced private AI capabilities.

Speaker #1: Another key area of AI application in Pexip is building customer-specific integrations and video applications. Pexip is uniquely flexible to integrate and adapt to fit with specific use cases.

Speaker #1: PEXIP can privately and securely exchange relevant meeting platform information to a completely private LLM on the customer's network. For example, PEXIP meetings can connect to and use Google Gemini self-hosted, and keep all data fully within the organization's own control.

Speaker #1: AI significantly lowers the cost and complexity to write such custom integrations. Which is a real amplifier on our API-based architecture. Now to connected spaces.

Speaker #1: A part of the video device software market that we estimate to around 1.4 billion dollars annually. Here, we deliver solutions to connect any meeting room to any meeting platform.

Speaker #1: AI significantly lowers the cost and complexity of writing such custom integrations, which is a real amplifier for our API-based architecture. Now, moving on to Connected Spaces.

Speaker #1: In close partnerships with Google, Zoom, and Microsoft, we have a unique market position and provide the most comprehensive suite of interoperability solutions in the market.

Trond K. Johannessen: AI significantly lowers the cost and complexity to write such custom integrations, which is a real amplifier on our API-based architecture. Now to Connected Spaces, a part of the video device software market that we estimate to around $1.4 billion annually. Here, we deliver solutions to connect any meeting room to any meeting platform. In close partnerships with Google, Zoom, and Microsoft, we have a unique market position and provide the most comprehensive suite of interoperability solutions in the market. The latest addition to the product portfolio in Connected Spaces is Pexip Connect for MTRs on Android, and this is now fully publicly available for purchase. We know many have been waiting for this, and we are in active dialogues with customers to set up pilots for testing. The first orders are also in the books. Now over to Aasmon for a more detailed sales update.

Trond Johannessen: AI significantly lowers the cost and complexity to write such custom integrations, which is a real amplifier on our API-based architecture. Now to Connected Spaces, a part of the video device software market that we estimate to around $1.4 billion annually. Here, we deliver solutions to connect any meeting room to any meeting platform. In close partnerships with Google, Zoom, and Microsoft, we have a unique market position and provide the most comprehensive suite of interoperability solutions in the market. The latest addition to the product portfolio in Connected Spaces is Pexip Connect for MTRs on Android, and this is now fully publicly available for purchase. We know many have been waiting for this, and we are in active dialogues with customers to set up pilots for testing. The first orders are also in the books. Now over to Aasmon for a more detailed sales update.

Speaker #1: The latest addition to the product portfolio in connected spaces is Pexip Connect for MTRs on Android. And this is now fully publicly available for purchase.

Speaker #1: A part of the video device software market that we estimate to be around $1.4 billion annually. Here, we deliver solutions to connect any meeting room to any meeting platform.

Speaker #1: We know many have been waiting for this, and we are in active dialogues with customers to set up pilots for testing. The first orders are also in the books.

Speaker #1: In close partnerships with Google, Zoom, and Microsoft, we have a unique market position and provide the most comprehensive suite of interoperability solutions in the market.

Speaker #1: Now over to Osman for a more detailed sales update.

Speaker #1: The latest addition to the product portfolio in connected spaces is Pexip Connect for MTRs on Android, and this is now fully publicly available for purchase.

Speaker #3: Thank you, John. Good morning, everyone. It's fantastic to present yet another strong quarter for Pexip, reinforcing our momentum across both secure and custom and connected spaces.

Speaker #1: We know many have been waiting for this, and we are in active dialogue with customers to set up pilots for testing. The first orders are also in the books.

Speaker #3: Let's look at some of the details. Having 11% year-over-year increase for connected spaces and adding 4.9 million US dollars as solid 27% increase for secure and custom is a very strong statement to our technology and to our team.

Speaker #1: Now, over to Osman for a more detailed sales update.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Trond. Good morning, everyone. It's fantastic to present yet another strong quarter for Pexip, reinforcing our momentum across both secure and custom and connected spaces.

[Company Representative] (Pexip): Thank you, Trond. Good morning, everyone. It's fantastic to present yet another strong quarter for Pexip, reinforcing our momentum across both Secure and Custom and Connected Spaces. Let's look at some of the details. Having an 11% year-over-year increase for Connected Spaces and adding $4.9 million, a solid 27% increase to Secure and Custom, is a very strong statement to our technology and to our team. As well, it proves our investment and now track record in Secure and Custom. Pexip successfully adds more and more Fortune 500 customers, large government institutions, healthcare, justice, Ministry of Defense, and important military organizations to our customer base. Here is why Pexip is successful. We see some commonalities. The first one, the accelerated focus on data control and data sovereignty. Buyers in Europe are no longer asking whether their data can sit outside their own control.

Speaker #3: As well, it proves our investment and now track record in secure and custom. Pexip successfully adds more and more Fortune 500 customers, large government institutions, healthcare, justice, ministry of defense, and important military organizations to our customer base.

Speaker #3: Let's look at some of the details. Having an 11% year-over-year increase for Connected Spaces and adding $4.9 million, a solid 27% increase for Secure and Custom, is a very strong statement to our technology and to our team.

Speaker #3: Here is why Pexip is successful. We see some commonalities. The first one: the accelerated focus on data control and data sovereignty. Buyers in Europe are no longer asking whether their data can fit outside their own control.

Speaker #3: As well, it proves our investment and now track record in secure and custom. Pexip successfully adds more and more Fortune 500 customers, large government institutions, healthcare, justice, ministerial defense, and important military organizations to our customer base.

Speaker #3: They are writing it into the requirement. That shift often makes Pexip the preferred vendor left at the end of the evaluation. Let me share a couple of large wins from this quarter.

Speaker #3: First, a European Ministry of Finance had two demands. Full control of data and controlled user or rather citizens' access. This is a strong reference case for us for every other ministry in that country and a future expansion opportunity for Pexip.

Speaker #3: They are writing it into the requirement. That shift often makes Pexip the preferred vendor left at the end of the evaluation. Let me share a couple of large wins from this quarter.

[Company Representative] (Pexip): They are writing it into the requirements. That shift often makes Pexip the preferred vendor left at the end of the evaluation. Let me share a couple of large wins from this quarter. First, a European Minister of Finance had two demands: full control of data and controlled user, or rather citizens access. This is a strong reference case for us for every other ministry in that country and a future expansion opportunity for Pexip. Second, a European police force selected Pexip for sovereign video. For law enforcement, sovereignty is not only about where data resides, it's about protecting operational secrecy. Winning in this environment validates Pexip against some of the public sector's most stringent security and procurement requirements. And third, a European financial services firm replaced its video platform entirely with Pexip, showing that regulated industries increasingly value the same sovereignty and control as government.

Speaker #3: Second, a European police force selected Pexip for sovereign video. For law enforcement, sovereignty is not only about where data resides. It's about protecting operational secrecy.

Speaker #3: First, a European Ministry of Finance had two demands: full control of data, and controlled user—or rather, citizens'—access. This is a strong reference case for us for every other ministry in that country, and a future expansion opportunity for Pexip.

Speaker #3: Winning in this environment validates Pexip against some of the public sector's most stringent security and procurement requirements. And third, a European financial services firm replaced its video platform entirely with Pexip.

Speaker #3: Second, a European police force selected Pexip for sovereign video. For law enforcement, sovereignty is not only about where data resides; it's about protecting operational secrecy.

Speaker #3: Showing that regulated industries increasingly value the same sovereignty and control as government. The second commodity we see is we keep on winning in classified emission critical environments.

Speaker #3: Winning in this environment validated Pexip against some of the public sector's most stringent security and procurement requirements. And third, a European financial services firm replaced its video platform entirely with Pexip.

Speaker #3: These are some of the hardest environments to enter. Few vendors can operate in air-gapped or classified networks. A European Ministry of Defense selected Pexip as their main collaboration platform for more than 100,000 users for both video and chat.

Speaker #3: Showing that regulated industries increasingly value the same sovereignty and control as government. The second point we see is that we keep on winning in classified and mission-critical environments.

Speaker #3: A US Army unit is deploying Pexip across separate classified networks. And a European defense force signed a three-year agreement for air-gapped meetings. These wins matter because the credibility creates high barriers to displacement, long-term revenue for us, and natural expansion opportunities for Pexip.

[Company Representative] (Pexip): The second commonality we see is we keep on winning in classified and mission-critical environments. These are some of the hardest environments to enter. Few vendors can operate in air-gapped or classified networks. A European Ministry of Defense selected Pexip as their main collaboration platform for more than 100,000 users for both video and chat. A US Army unit is deploying Pexip across separate classified networks, and the European Defense Force signed a three-year agreement for air-gapped meetings. These wins matter because the credibility creates high barriers to displacement, long-term revenue for us, and natural expansion opportunities for Pexip. Let me share a recent feedback from operators in the field, underlining, as Trond and we just heard Nick previously said, how well-suited Pexip is across these environments. Here, Pexip powers classified video calls from aircraft carrier at sea over a secure NATO network and across multiple domains.

Speaker #3: A US Army unit is deploying Pexip across separate classified networks, and the European Defense Force signed a three-year agreement for air-gapped meetings. These wins matter because the credibility creates high barriers to displacement, long-term revenue for us, and natural expansion opportunities for Pexip.

Speaker #3: Let me share a recent feedback from operators in the field. Underlining as John, and we just heard Nick previously said, how well suited Pexip is across these environments.

Speaker #3: Here, Pexip powers classified video calls from aircraft carrier at sea over a secure NATO network and across multiple domains. The takeaway: Pexip is strengthening its position where security requirements are at the highest and where trusted communication is mission critical.

Speaker #3: Let me share a recent feedback from operators in the field, underlining—as Trond, and as we just heard Nick previously said—how well suited Pexip is across these environments.

Speaker #3: Here, Pexip powers classified video calls from aircraft carriers at sea over a secure NATO network and across multiple domains. The takeaway: Pexip is strengthening its position where security requirements are the highest and where trusted communication is mission-critical.

Speaker #3: Now let's look also at connected spaces. The last commonality we see is interoperability remains a strategic differentiator for Pexip. Few large organizations run a single collaboration platform.

Speaker #3: They can have Microsoft in one part of the business, Zoom in another, and rooms equipment from several generations of investments. Standardizing on one vendor is expensive, slow, and sometimes politically hard.

[Company Representative] (Pexip): The takeaway, Pexip is strengthening its position where security requirements are at the highest and where trusted communication is mission-critical. Now let's look also at Connected Spaces. The last commonality we see is interoperability remains a strategic differentiator for Pexip. Few large organizations run a single collaboration platform. They can have Microsoft in one part of the business, Zoom in another, and rooms equipment from several generations of investments. Standardizing on one vendor is expensive, slow, and sometimes politically hard, so instead they buy interoperability. That is the gap we fill. Two wins from this quarter proves it. A global investment advisor rolled out Pexip across its estate. Financial services is a demanding reference, heavy compliance requirements, low tolerance for meeting failures, and a long evaluation process. A second reference, a large and innovative automobile manufacturer selected Pexip so that Zoom Rooms can join Teams meetings.

Speaker #3: Now, let's look also at connected spaces. The last commonality we see is that interoperability remains a strategic differentiator for Pexip. Few large organizations run a single collaboration platform.

Speaker #3: So instead, they buy interoperability. That is the gap we fill. Two wins from this quarter proves it. A global investment advisor rolled out Pexip across its estate.

Speaker #3: They can have Microsoft in one part of the business, Zoom in another, and Rooms equipment from several generations of instruments. Standardizing on one vendor is expensive, slow, and sometimes politically hard.

Speaker #3: Financial services is a demanding reference. Heavy compliant requirements. Low tolerance for meeting failures. And a long evaluation process. And a second reference: a large and innovative automobile manufacturer selected Pexip so that Zoom rooms can join team meetings, rather than replacing the hardware.

Speaker #3: So instead, they buy interoperability. That is the gap we fill. Two wins from this quarter prove it. A global investment advisor rolled out Pexip across its estate.

Speaker #3: They use Pexip to bridge the two. It shows how we monetize the customer's existing investment instead of competing with it. In summary, these are the commonalities behind why Pexip are successful and keep on winning large customers around the world.

Speaker #3: Financial services is a demanding reference, with heavy compliance requirements, low tolerance for meeting failures, and a long evaluation process. And a second reference, a large and innovative automobile manufacturer, selected Pexip so that Zooms can join Teams meetings. Rather than replacing the hardware, they use Pexip to bridge the two.

Speaker #3: And with that, I will handle over to Øystein for all the financial details.

Speaker #3: It shows how we monetize the customer's existing investment, instead of competing with it. In summary, these are the core reasons why Pexip is successful and continues to win large customers around the world.

Speaker #1: Thank you, Osman. For annual recurring revenue, we increased our growth to 18%. And this quarter, it was really secure and custom driving the growth, growing from 59 to 64 million dollars.

[Company Representative] (Pexip): Rather than replacing the hardware, they use Pexip to bridge the two. It shows how we monetize the customer's existing investment instead of competing with it. In summary, these are the commonalities behind why Pexip are successful and keep on winning large customers around the world. With that, I will hand it over to Øystein for all the financial details.

Speaker #3: And with that, I will hand over to Oystein for all the financial details.

Speaker #1: And growing into 46% of the ARR base. EMEA grew the most with 3.8 million dollars, followed by Americas and then by APAC. And as Truman commented on, defense and national security had another strong quarter.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Osman. For annual recurring revenue, we increased our growth to 18%, and this quarter it was really secure and custom driving the growth, growing from $59 million to $64 million.

Speaker #1: It is now 15% of our overall ARR. Breaking down the growth into the various components. Connected spaces saw an increase of 0.3 million dollars.

Øystein Dahl Hem: Thank you, Aasna. For annual recurring revenue, we increased our growth to 18%. This quarter it was really Secure and Custom driving the growth, growing from $59 million to $64 million and growing into 46% of the ARR base. EMEA grew the most with $3.8 million, followed by Americas and then by APAC. As Trond commented on, defense and national security had another strong quarter and is now 15% of our overall ARR. Breaking down the growth into the various components, Connected Spaces saw an increase of $0.3 million. We are happy to see that net retention continues to improve and is approaching 100% also in this segment. New sales was somewhat below the usual level in Connected Spaces, as the majority of large deals closing in this quarter was in Secure and Custom. That meant that Secure and Custom had both good new sales and very strong net retention.

Speaker #2: And growing into 46% of the ARR base. EMEA grew the most with $3.8 million, followed by Americas and then by APAC. And as Trond commented on, defense and national security had another strong quarter.

Speaker #1: We're happy to see that net retention continues to improve. And it's approaching 100% also in this segment. New sales was somewhat below the usual level in connected spaces.

Speaker #2: It is now 15% of our overall ARR. Breaking down the growth into the various components, Connected Spaces saw an increase of $0.3 million.

Speaker #1: As the majority of large deals closing in this quarter, was in secure and custom. That meant that secure and custom had both good new sales and very strong net retention.

Speaker #2: We're happy to see that net retention continues to improve and is approaching 100%, also in this segment. New sales were somewhat below the usual level in Connected Spaces, as the majority of large deals closing in this quarter were in Secure and Custom.

Speaker #1: We continue to see customers growing from their initial revenue. As their usage of Pexip expands, and by scaling initial rollouts. This quarter, that led existing customers to have net upsell of 4 million dollars, driving the best ever growth in dollar terms for the segment.

Speaker #2: That meant that Secure and Custom had good new sales and very strong net retention. We continue to see customers growing from their initial revenue, as their usage of Pexip expands and by scaling initial rollout.

Speaker #1: Churn came in at 600,000 dollars, which is on average for secure and custom. In terms of the P&L, recognized revenue grew 18%, which is the same as the ARR growth.

Speaker #2: This quarter, that led existing customers to have a net upsell of $4 million, driving the best ever growth in dollar terms for the segment.

Speaker #1: And this enables us to continue to improve our EBITDA, which grew 30% year on year. On a 12-month basis, revenue growth is slightly ahead of the ARR growth at 20%, while the annualized EBITDA margin is up to 31%, up from 23% in the same quarter a year ago, and up from 30% out of Q1.

Øystein Dahl Hem: We continue to see customers growing from their initial revenue as their usage of Pexip expands and by scaling initial roll-outs. This quarter, that led existing customers to have net upsell of $4 million, driving the best ever growth in dollar terms for the segment. Churn came in at $600,000, which is on average for Secure and Custom. In terms of the P&L, recognized revenue grew 18%, which is the same as the ARR growth. This enables us to continue to improve our EBITDA, which grew 30% year on year. On a 12-month basis, revenue growth is slightly ahead of the ARR growth at 20%, while the annualized EBITDA margin is up to 31%, up from 23% in the same quarter a year ago, and up from 30% out of Q1.

Speaker #2: Churn came in at $600,000, which is on average for Secure and Custom. In terms of the P&L, recognized revenue grew 18%, which is the same as the ARR growth.

Speaker #2: And this enables us to continue to improve our EBITDA, which grew 30% year on year. On a 12-month basis, revenue growth is slightly ahead of the ARR growth at 20%, while the annualized EBITDA margin is up to 31%, up from 23% in the same quarter a year ago, and up from 30% out of Q1.

Speaker #1: That means that the sum of our ARR growth and EBITDA margin is now at 49, well above our long-term target of 40. Our operating expenses have a modest increase compared to Q2 of last year.

Speaker #1: On cash-based salary, we have an increase of 1.3 million dollars, driven by salary increases as well as the NOC USD appreciation impacting our costs in Norway.

Speaker #2: That means that the sum of our ARR growth and EBITDA margin is now at 49, well above our long-term target of 40. Our operating expenses have had a modest increase compared to Q2 of last year.

Speaker #1: Share-based expenses are in line with last year at 1.8 million dollars, and other OPEX came in at 4.2 million, slightly up from last year, and slightly down from Q1.

Øystein Dahl Hem: That means that the sum of our ARR growth and EBITDA margin is now at 49, well above our long-term target of 40. Our operating expenses have a modest increase compared to Q2 of last year. On cash-based salary, we have an increase of $1.3 million, driven by salary increases as well as the NOK/USD appreciation impacting our costs in Norway. Share-based expenses are in line with last year at $1.8 million, and other OpEx came in at $4.2 million, slightly up from last year and slightly down from Q1. In total, that meant that of the $4.9 million in incremental revenue growth, we managed to move 1.7 or 34% to the bottom line. That is somewhat below earlier quarters, which is partly due to the extraordinary low cost of goods sold last year.

Speaker #2: On cash-based salary, we have an increase of $1.3 million, driven by salary increases as well as the NOK/USD appreciation impacting our cost in Norway.

Speaker #1: In total, that meant that of the 4.9 million dollars in incremental revenue growth, we managed to move 1.7 or 34% to the bottom line.

Speaker #2: Share-based expenses are in line with last year at $1.8 million, and our OPEX came in at $4.2 million, slightly up from last year and slightly down from Q1.

Speaker #1: That is somewhat below earlier quarters, which is partly due to the extraordinary low cost of goods sold last year. Despite of this, we continue to improve our margins, both on the quarterly level and on a trailing 12-month perspective.

Speaker #2: In total, that meant that, of the $4.9 million in incremental revenue growth, we managed to move $1.7 million, or 34%, to the bottom line.

Speaker #1: On cash flow, Q2 delivered 8 million dollars in free cash flow, up from 3 million in Q2 of last year. Helped by improved operating cash flow.

Speaker #2: That is somewhat below earlier quarters, which is partly due to the extraordinarily low cost of goods sold last year. Despite this, we continue to improve our margins, both on the quarterly level and on a trailing 12-month perspective.

Speaker #1: The dividend payment had the largest impact on cash, returning 44 million dollars to shareholders. And we exit the quarter with a cash and money market position of 45 million dollars, and we continue to have both a robust cash position and consistent positive cash flows.

Speaker #2: On cash flow, Q2 delivered $8 million in free cash flow, up from $3 million in Q2 of last year, helped by improved operating cash flow.

Øystein Dahl Hem: Despite this, we continued to improve our margins, both on a quarterly level and on a trailing 12-month perspective. On cash flow, Q2 delivered $8 million in free cash flow, up from $3 million in Q2 of last year, helped by improved operating cash flow. The dividend payment had the largest impact on cash, returning $44 million to shareholders. We exit the quarter with a cash and money market position of $45 million. We continue to have both a robust cash position and consistent positive cash flows. On other items on the P&L, nothing stands out much. Depreciation is somewhat up year on year, and profit before tax is up $1.3 million to $6.9 million for the quarter. With that, I give it back to Trond.

Speaker #2: The dividend payment had the largest impact on cash, returning $44 million to shareholders. We exited the quarter with a cash and money market position of $45 million, and we continue to have both a robust cash position and consistent positive cash flows.

Speaker #1: On other items on the P&L, nothing stands out much. Depreciation is somewhat up year on year, and profit before tax is up 1.3 million to 6.9 million dollars for the quarter.

Speaker #1: And with that, I give it back to Truman.

Speaker #2: On other items on the P&L, nothing stands out much. Depreciation is somewhat up year-on-year, and profit before tax is up $1.3 million to $6.9 million for the quarter.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Øystein. Now, Outlook. As described earlier, we do maintain a positive market outlook based on the key trends we see in our markets, the unique technology, strong market position, and industry partnerships that we have.

Speaker #2: And with that, I give it back to Trond.

Speaker #1: Thank you, Oystein. Now, outlook. As described earlier, we do maintain a positive market outlook based on the key trends we see in our markets, the unique technology, strong market position, and industry partnerships that we have.

Speaker #3: Our expectation is that we will end Q3 with an ARR in the range of 142 to 145 million dollars, compared to the 140 we had leaving Q2.

Trond K. Johannessen: Thank you, Øystein. Now, outlook. As described earlier, we do maintain a positive market outlook based on the key trends we see in our markets, the unique technology, strong market position, and industry partnerships that we have. Our expectation is that we will end Q3 with an ARR in the range of $142 to $145 million, compared to the $140 million we had leaving Q2. Long term, our financial ambition is to consistently deliver above Rule of 40 performance across ARR growth and EBITDA margin. Last 12 months, we were at 49 on this parameter. Finally, before we go to Q&A, we will present our Q3 numbers on 5 November. Now Q&A.

Trond Johannessen: Thank you, Øystein. Now, outlook. As described earlier, we do maintain a positive market outlook based on the key trends we see in our markets, the unique technology, strong market position, and industry partnerships that we have. Our expectation is that we will end Q3 with an ARR in the range of $142 to $145 million, compared to the $140 million we had leaving Q2. Long term, our financial ambition is to consistently deliver above Rule of 40 performance across ARR growth and EBITDA margin. Last 12 months, we were at 49 on this parameter. Finally, before we go to Q&A, we will present our Q3 numbers on 5 November. Now Q&A.

Speaker #3: Long-term, our financial ambition is to consistently deliver above rule of 40 performance across ARR growth and EBITDA margin. Last 12 months, we were at 49 on this parameter.

Speaker #1: Our expectation is we will end Q3 with an ARR in the range of $142 to $145 million, compared to the $140 million we had leaving Q2.

Speaker #1: Long term, our financial ambition is to consistently deliver above Rule of 40 performance across ARR growth and EBITDA margin. Over the last 12 months, we were at 49 on this parameter.

Speaker #3: Finally, before we go to Q&A, we will present our Q3 numbers on November 5th. Now, Q&A.

Speaker #1: Thank you, Truman. We'll start the questions from the analysts that are with us live. And we have Øystein Lodegaard from ABG. Øystein, can you hear us?

Speaker #1: Finally, before we go to Q&A, we will present our Q3 numbers on November 5th. Now, Q&A.

Speaker #4: I can hear you. Can you hear me?

Speaker #1: Yes, we can.

Speaker #4: Yes. Well, congrats on another good quarter. I wanted to start with connected spaces. Here, you're of course having if you look at the year-over-year growth, that is boosted by a some large deals you signed in Q4 last year.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Trond. We'll start the questions from the analysts that are with us live. We have Oystein Lodegaard from ABG. Oystein, can you hear us?

Speaker #4: I can hear you. Can you hear me?

Speaker #2: Yes, we can.

Speaker #4: Yes. So congrats on another good quarter. I wanted to start with connected spaces. Here, you're of course having if you look at the year-over-year growth, that is boosted by a some large deals you signed in Q4 last year, but if you look at kind of quarter-on-quarter, it's kind of flat, not growing that much.

Speaker #4: But if you look at kind of quarter-on-quarter, it's kind of flat, not growing that much. So just wanted to understand what are you seeing in terms of the underlying development in that market, and what is your kind of view on the future quarters going ahead for connected spaces?

Øystein Dahl Hem: Thank you, Trond. We will start the questions from the analysts that are with us live. We have Øystein Lodgaard from ABG. Øystein, can you hear us?

Øystein Elton Lodgaard: I can hear you. Can you hear me?

Øystein Dahl Hem: Yes, we can.

Øystein Elton Lodgaard: Well, congrats on another good quarter. I wanted to start with Connected Spaces. Here, you are of course having, if you look at the year-over-year growth, that is boosted by some large deals you signed in Q4 last year. But if you look at kind of quarter on quarter, it is kind of flat, not growing that much. Just wanted to understand, what are you seeing in terms of the underlying development in that market, and what is your view on the future quarters going ahead for Connected Spaces?

Speaker #1: I think what we're seeing this quarter from connected spaces is fairly consistent with the previous quarters, where we've had a modest growth quarter-on-quarter. With the exception of Q4, where we really had standout growth.

Speaker #4: I just wanted to understand what you are seeing in terms of the underlying development in that market, and what is your view on the future quarters going ahead for connected spaces?

Speaker #1: Which is, I think, a fair expectation also going forward. So to have continued modest growth in connected spaces, certainly compared to secure and custom.

Speaker #2: I'm seeing this quarter from Connected Spaces is fairly consistent with the previous quarters, where we've had modest growth quarter-on-quarter, with the exception of Q4, where we really had standout growth.

Speaker #4: So now with the connected teams on Android also being launched, you don't expect kind of that to drive an acceleration in the growth in connected spaces going forward?

Speaker #2: Which is, I think, a fair expectation also going forward. So, to have continued modest growth in Connected Spaces, certainly compared to Secure and Custom.

Øystein Dahl Hem: I think what we are seeing this quarter from Connected Spaces is fairly consistent with previous quarters, where we have had a modest growth quarter on quarter, with the exception of Q4, where we really had standout growth, which is, I think, a fair expectation also going forward. So to have continued modest growth in Connected Spaces, certainly compared to Secure and Custom.

Speaker #1: It's a bit early to say in terms of what that impact will be. I think the positive results so far from that product have been good.

Speaker #4: So now with the Connected Teams on Android also being launched, you don't expect that to drive an acceleration in the growth in Connected Spaces going forward?

Speaker #1: But it's still very much in sort of proof of concept and early customer discussions. We haven't really seen enough orders to have a very clear perspective on how quickly that will adapt.

Speaker #2: It's a bit early to say in terms of what that impact will be. I think the positive results so far from that product have been good.

Øystein Elton Lodgaard: Now with the Connected Spaces on Android also being launched, you do not expect that to drive an acceleration in the growth in Connected Spaces going forward?

Speaker #2: But it's still very much in sort of proof of concept and early customer discussions. We haven't really seen enough orders to have a very clear perspective on how quickly that will adapt.

Speaker #4: Okay. I understand. And in terms of costs going forward, you're now quite significantly above your own kind of soft guiding that you want to deliver above rule of 40 performance, which gives you some leeway, some kind of opportunity to kind of invest more in growing your office space and still being within that target.

Øystein Dahl Hem: It is a bit early to say in terms of what that impact will be. I think the positive results so far from that product have been good. It is still very much in proof of concept and early customer discussions. We have not really seen enough orders to have a very clear perspective on how quickly that will adapt.

Speaker #4: Okay, I understand. And in terms of costs going forward, you're now quite significantly above your own kind of soft guiding that you want to deliver above Rule of 40 performance, which gives you some leeway, some kind of opportunity to invest more in growing your operating space and still be within that target.

Speaker #4: How do you look at kind of future OPEX growth now for the next couple of years?

Speaker #1: I think we are continuing

Speaker #3: to invest in people and add resources where that is sort of seen necessary, particularly on the commercial side. We see that we have a lot of traction in the secure and customer area.

Øystein Elton Lodgaard: Okay, I understand. In terms of costs going forward, you are now quite significantly above your own soft guiding that you want to deliver above Rule of 40 performance, which gives you some leeway, some kind of opportunity to invest more in growing your OpEx base and still being within that target. How do you look at future OpEx growth now for the next couple of years?

Speaker #4: How do you view future OPEX growth for the next couple of years?

Speaker #1: I think we are continuing to invest in people and add resources where that is seen as necessary, particularly on the commercial side. We see that we have a lot of traction in the secure and customer area.

Speaker #3: We are successful in defense. We're doing good in healthcare, in government. So adding specific sort of competencies, like we have been very sort of successful in doing in defense, also in other areas, is something we're looking at.

Speaker #1: We are successful in defense. We're doing well in healthcare and government. So, adding specific competencies, like we have been very successful in doing in defense, also in other areas, is something we're looking at.

Speaker #3: But in general, we also see that we have savings coming, for example, from AI and productivity improvements in other areas. So it's sort of balancing out.

Trond K. Johannessen: I think we are continuing to invest in people and add resources where that is seen necessary, particularly on the commercial side. We see that we have a lot of traction in the Secure and Custom area. We are successful in defense. We are doing good in healthcare and government. Adding specific competencies, like we have been very successful in doing in defense, also in other areas, is something we are looking at. In general, we also see that we have savings coming, for example, from AI and productivity improvements in other areas. It is sort of balancing out. We have communicated earlier that we think the number of employees will grow slightly through this year, maybe approaching something like 300 employees towards the end of this year. I think that is still our ambition.

Trond Johannessen: I think we are continuing to invest in people and add resources where that is seen necessary, particularly on the commercial side. We see that we have a lot of traction in the Secure and Custom area. We are successful in defense. We are doing good in healthcare and government. Adding specific competencies, like we have been very successful in doing in defense, also in other areas, is something we are looking at. In general, we also see that we have savings coming, for example, from AI and productivity improvements in other areas. It is sort of balancing out.

Speaker #3: We have communicated earlier that we think the number of employees will grow slightly through this year, maybe approaching something like 300 employees towards the end of this year.

Speaker #1: But in general, we also see that we have savings coming, for example, from AI and productivity improvements in other areas, so it's sort of balancing out.

Speaker #3: And I think that's still our ambition. But we don't see any kind of dramatic change to the OPEX space or the investment level in terms of that will increase the costs dramatically.

Speaker #1: We have communicated earlier that we think the number of employees will grow slightly through this year, maybe approaching something like 300 employees towards the end of this year.

Speaker #1: And I think that's still our ambition. But we don't see any kind of dramatic change to the OPEX space or the investment level in terms of that will increase the costs dramatically.

Speaker #4: And from that 300 employee base at the year, and how much should we expect that to grow in the years to come?

Trond Johannessen: We have communicated earlier that we think the number of employees will grow slightly through this year, maybe approaching something like 300 employees towards the end of this year. I think that is still our ambition. We do not see any kind of dramatic change to the OpEx space or the investment level in terms of that will increase the costs dramatically.

Speaker #3: I think that's a difficult question. We will basically be agile and adapt to how we see the market developing. Seeing we have to go after the opportunities that are out there.

Speaker #4: Right. And from that 300-employee base, is that expected to grow in the years to come?

Speaker #1: I think that's a difficult question. We will basically be agile and adapt to how we see the market developing, seeing we have to go after the opportunities that are out there.

Trond K. Johannessen: We do not see any kind of dramatic change to the OpEx space or the investment level in terms of that will increase the costs dramatically.

Speaker #3: And I think the sort of our biggest fear is the fear of missing out. Not being able to be in all the right places at the right time.

Speaker #3: So I guess it all depends on how the markets will develop. I think you will see, as we have seen before, that in some areas we will reduce.

Speaker #1: And I think our biggest fear is the fear of missing out—not being able to be in all the right places at the right time.

Øystein Elton Lodgaard: From that 300-employee base at the year-end, how much should we expect that to grow in the years to come?

Speaker #3: In other areas we will increase. Whether that balance ends up with a slight increase, flat, or I guess it just has to remain to be seen.

Speaker #1: So, I guess it all depends on how the markets will develop. I think you will see, as we have seen before, that in some areas we will reduce; in other areas we will increase.

Trond K. Johannessen: I think that is a difficult question. We will basically be agile and adapt to how we see the market developing. Seeing we have to go after the opportunities that are out there, I think that our biggest fear is the fear of missing out, not being able to be in all the right places at the right time. I guess it all depends on how the markets will develop. I think you will see, as we have seen before, that in some areas we will reduce. In other areas, we will increase. Whether that balance ends up with a slight increase, flat, or I guess it just remains to be seen. I am not foreseeing any dramatic changes. It is going to be pretty predictable and easy to forecast going forward, I think.

Trond Johannessen: I think that is a difficult question. We will basically be agile and adapt to how we see the market developing. Seeing we have to go after the opportunities that are out there, I think that our biggest fear is the fear of missing out, not being able to be in all the right places at the right time. I guess it all depends on how the markets will develop. I think you will see, as we have seen before, that in some areas we will reduce. In other areas, we will increase. Whether that balance ends up with a slight increase, flat, or I guess it just remains to be seen. I am not foreseeing any dramatic changes. It is going to be pretty predictable and easy to forecast going forward, I think.

Speaker #3: But I'm not foreseeing any dramatic changes it's going to be pretty predictable and easy to forecast going forward, I think.

Speaker #1: Whether that balance ends up with a slight increase, flat, or—I guess it just remains to be seen. But I'm not foreseeing any dramatic changes. It's going to be pretty predictable and easy to forecast going forward, I think.

Speaker #4: It's very clear. Thank you very much. Thanks for my questions.

Speaker #1: Thanks a lot, Øystein. Then we'll move on to Christopher Bjørnsen from DNB.

Speaker #5: Hey, good morning. Can you hear me? Great. Thank you. So just wanted to touch on the development you're expecting for ARR in the third quarter.

Speaker #4: Very clear. Thank you very much. Please take my questions.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Øystein. Then we'll move on to Christopher Bjørnsen from DNB.

Speaker #5: Hey, good morning. Can you hear me?

Speaker #5: There's no doubt that there is increasing demand for the kind of secure solutions you're offering. But you kind of also seeing some European actors doing their own stuff internally and so on.

Speaker #2: Yes, we can.

Speaker #5: Great, thank you. I just wanted to touch on the development you're expecting for ARR in the third quarter. There's no doubt that there is increasing demand for the kind of secure solutions you're offering.

Øystein Elton Lodgaard: Very clear. Thank you very much. Those are my questions.

Speaker #5: So you've been seeing really good DR, ADAR, let's call it DAR, over the last couple of quarters. But now you're kind of guiding for a slowdown for Q3 back to the levels seen more than a year ago.

Øystein Dahl Hem: Thanks a lot, Øystein. Then we will move on to Christoffer Wang Bjørnsen from DNB.

Speaker #5: But you're also seeing some European actors doing their own stuff internally and so on. So you've been seeing really good DRADAR—what's called a DAR—over the last couple of quarters.

Christoffer Wang Bjørnsen: Hey, good morning. Can you hear me?

Øystein Dahl Hem: Yes, we can.

Christoffer Wang Bjørnsen: Great. Thank you. Just wanted to touch on the development you are expecting for ARR in Q3. There is no doubt that there is increasing demand for the kind of secure solutions you are offering, but you are also seeing some European actors doing their own stuff internally and so on. You have been seeing really good DRA, let us call it DRA, over the last couple of quarters, but now you are guiding for a slowdown for Q3 back to the levels seen more than a year ago. Can you maybe expand a bit on what is driving that slowdown, if there is anything particular you want to call out in the quarter, or if it is just like a bumpy ride and it is probably going to pick up again into Q4 and beyond, hopefully?

Speaker #5: So can you maybe expand a bit on what's driving that slowdown, if there's anything particular you want to call out in the quarter, or if it's just like a bumpy ride and it's probably going to take up again into the fourth quarter and beyond, hopefully?

Speaker #5: But now you're kind of guiding for a slowdown for Q3, back to the levels seen more than a year ago. So, can you maybe expand a bit on what's driving that slowdown? Is there anything particular you want to call out in the quarter, or is it just a bumpy ride and it's probably going to pick up again into the fourth quarter and beyond, hopefully?

Speaker #3: I think this is always difficult, right? I mean, giving Outlook and guidance on the next quarter, I think just the headline here from our side is that we're trying to give you the best possible picture of how we see the quarter we're in.

Speaker #1: I think this is always difficult, right? I mean, giving outlook and guidance on the next quarter—I think just the headline here from our side is that we're trying to give you the best possible picture of how we see the quarter we're in.

Speaker #3: This time we meant to give a positive view. I mean, we don't see any changes to the positive trends we have seen over the last quarters.

Speaker #3: We think they will continue. The difficult part is always to judge exactly which quarter some of these deals will end in. In previous quarter, we expanded the guiding range to take this into account.

Speaker #1: This time we meant to give a positive view, meaning we don't see any changes to the positive trends we have seen over the last quarters.

Speaker #1: We think they will continue. The difficult part is always to judge exactly which quarter some of these deals will end in. In the previous quarter, we expanded the guiding range to take this into account.

Trond K. Johannessen: I think this is always difficult, right? I mean, giving outlook and guidance on the next quarter. The headline here from our side is that we are trying to give you the best possible picture of how we see the quarter we are in. This time we meant to give a positive view, meaning we do not see any changes to the positive trends we have seen over the last quarters. We think they will continue. The difficult part is always to judge exactly which quarter some of these deals will end in. In previous quarter, we expanded the guiding range to take this into account. We could have done that this time as well. We decided not to, pretty much on the balance. It is a bit of a kind of a juggling and balancing act to give you these forecasts and this guiding.

Trond Johannessen: I think this is always difficult, right? I mean, giving outlook and guidance on the next quarter. The headline here from our side is that we are trying to give you the best possible picture of how we see the quarter we are in. This time we meant to give a positive view, meaning we do not see any changes to the positive trends we have seen over the last quarters. We think they will continue. The difficult part is always to judge exactly which quarter some of these deals will end in. In previous quarter, we expanded the guiding range to take this into account. We could have done that this time as well. We decided not to, pretty much on the balance. It is a bit of a kind of a juggling and balancing act to give you these forecasts and this guiding.

Speaker #3: We could have done that this time as well. We decided not to. Pretty much on the balance, it's a bit of a kind of a juggling and balancing act to give you these forecasts and this guiding.

Speaker #1: We could have done that this time as well, but we decided not to. Pretty much, on balance, it's a bit of a juggling and balancing act to give you these forecasts and this guidance.

Speaker #3: But overall, and looking at the second quarter, second half of 2026 as a whole, you will see that or are firm belief is that the trend that we have seen over the last quarters will continue at the same or accelerated rate.

Speaker #1: But overall, and looking at the second half of 2026 as a whole, you will see that, or our firm belief is that, the trend that we have seen over the last quarters will continue at the same or an accelerated rate.

Speaker #5: All right. So you're not expecting any particular account to churn out in the third quarter or anything like that, and stuff like that?

Speaker #3: No. No. There is no don't read too much into whether there is 1 million here or there on this quarter's guidance. Because I think that then you're overinterpreting a little bit the numbers we're giving you.

Speaker #5: All right. So you're not expecting any particular account to churn out in the third quarter or anything like that, and stuff like that?

Trond K. Johannessen: But overall, looking at the H2 2026 as a whole, our firm belief is that the trend that we have seen over the last quarters will continue at the same or accelerated rate.

Trond Johannessen: But overall, looking at the H2 2026 as a whole, our firm belief is that the trend that we have seen over the last quarters will continue at the same or accelerated rate.

Speaker #1: No, there is no. You should not read too much into whether there is $1 million here or there on this quarter's guidance, because I think that then you're overinterpreting a little bit the numbers we're giving you.

Speaker #1: I will let me add as well. The momentum is still there. Brexit is successful. Again, we're trying to give you the best guidance on the exact quarter.

Speaker #1: But again, second half looks strong for us. Momentum continues.

Speaker #2: I will definitely add as well. The momentum is still there. Pexip is successful. Again, we're trying to give you the best guidance on the exact quarter.

Christoffer Wang Bjørnsen: All right. So you are not expecting any particular account to churn out in Q3 or anything like that and stuff like that?

Speaker #5: All right. Thank you. And then as a follow-up on the maybe it's a bit of an odd question, but what influenced AI now in trying to find ways to expand revenue opportunities, but also to find efficiencies internally?

Speaker #2: But again, the second half looks strong for us. Momentum continues.

Trond K. Johannessen: No. There is no.

Trond Johannessen: No. There is no.

Christoffer Wang Bjørnsen: All right.

Trond K. Johannessen: Do not read too much into whether there is NOK 1 million here or there on this quarter's guidance, because I think that then you are over-interpreting a little bit the numbers we are giving you.

Trond Johannessen: Do not read too much into whether there is NOK 1 million here or there on this quarter's guidance, because I think that then you are over-interpreting a little bit the numbers we are giving you.

Speaker #5: All right, thank you. And then, as a follow-up on maybe a bit of an old question—everyone's obviously investing heavily in AI now and trying to find ways to expand revenue opportunities, but also to find efficiencies internally.

Speaker #5: So some people have asked me this morning about the growth in OPEX and the OPEX per head, basically. Can you maybe expand a bit on how much are you using AI?

[Company Representative] (Pexip): All right.

[Company Representative] (Pexip): I would like to add as well, the momentum is still there. Pexip is successful. Again, we are trying to give you the best guidance on the exact quarter. But again, H2 looks strong for us. Momentum continues.

Speaker #5: So, some people have asked me this morning about the growth in OPEX and the OPEX per head, basically. Can you maybe expand a bit on how much you are using AI?

Speaker #5: Are we at a stage where we're seeing significant token consumption, but not really yet an ability to take out efficiencies? So hence, OPEX is a bit inflated now, or is it too small to care?

Christoffer Wang Bjørnsen: All right. Thank you. As a follow-up on, maybe it is a bit of an old question, but everyone is obviously investing heavily in AI now and trying to find ways to expand revenue opportunities, but also to find efficiencies internally. Some people have asked me this morning about the growth in OpEx and the OpEx per head, basically. Can you maybe expand a bit on how much you are using AI? Are we at the stage where we are seeing significant token consumption, but not really yet an ability to take out efficiencies, hence, OpEx is a bit inflated now, or is it too small to care?

Speaker #5: Are we at a stage where we're seeing significant token consumption, but not really yet an ability to take out efficiencies? Hence, OPEX is a bit inflated now, or is it too small to care?

Speaker #1: So I think I'm quite comfortable with our AI costs at the moment. So I think we're using it in the right areas. And for productive use, it's becoming a relevant cost item, which is part of the increase in other OPEX.

Speaker #2: So I think I'm quite comfortable with our AI costs at the moment. I think we're using it in the right areas, and for productive use, it's becoming a relevant cost item, which is part of the increase in other OPEX.

Speaker #1: Maybe these are all predominant driver in that cost category. But it's a bit too soon for us to say that we've sort of that we have that meaningful productivity gains so that we can reduce the number of staff significantly.

Speaker #2: Maybe these are all predominant drivers in that cost category. But it's a bit too soon for us to say that we've sort of—that we have that meaningful productivity gain so that we can reduce the number of staff significantly.

Speaker #1: Hopefully, that's part of why we're also able to do more with the same number of people. So we've sort of consistently sort of added more ARR.

Øystein Dahl Hem: I think I am quite comfortable with our AI costs at the moment. I think we are using it in the right areas and for productive use. It is becoming a relevant cost item, which is part of the increase in other OpEx. Maybe the predominant driver in that cost category. It is a bit too soon for us to say that we have that meaningful productivity gains so that we can reduce the number of staff significantly. Hopefully, that is part of why we are also able to do more with the same number of people. We have consistently added more ARR and also more delta ARR every quarter, even though we are the same number of people as we have been for the past couple of years. AI is more an enabler of making sure that we can continue doing that.

Speaker #1: And also more sort of delta ARR every quarter even though we're the same number of people as we've been for the past couple of years.

Speaker #2: Hopefully, that's part of why we're also able to do more with the same number of people. So we've sort of consistently sort of added more ARR and also more sort of delta ARR every quarter even though we're the same number of people as we've been for the past couple of years.

Speaker #1: And AI is more an enabler of making sure that we can continue doing that.

Speaker #5: Exactly. It's a bit front-end loaded the investments and then you'll reap the benefits going forward, perhaps.

Speaker #2: And AI is more an enabler of making sure that we can continue doing that.

Speaker #1: It's now would be surprise if that's very different from most other companies.

Speaker #5: Exactly. The investments are a bit front-end loaded, and then you'll reap the benefits going forward, perhaps.

Speaker #5: All right. Thank you.

Speaker #2: I would not be surprised if that's very different from most other companies recently.

Speaker #1: Thanks a lot, Christopher. Then we'll move on to Lisa Viemyr from Sparebanken Markets. Lisa, can you hear us?

Speaker #5: All right. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Yes, I can. Good morning. I just have one question. I find slide number eight really interesting with 57% of your revenue coming from self-hosted and sovereign cloud.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Christopher. Then we'll move on to Elisa Viemir from Sparebanken Markets. Elisa, can you hear us?

Speaker #6: Yes, I can. Good morning. I just have one question. I find slide number eight really interesting, with 57% of your revenue coming from self-hosted and sovereign cloud.

Christoffer Wang Bjørnsen: Exactly. It is a bit front-end load of the investments, then you will reap the benefits going forward, perhaps.

Speaker #2: And especially the 11% from connected spaces. Can you talk a bit about the development of that figure in connected spaces? Like over the last year, and how you see it moving forward?

Øystein Dahl Hem: I would be surprised if that is very different from most other companies.

Speaker #6: And especially the 11% from connected spaces. Can you talk a bit about the development of that figure in connected spaces—like over the last year, and how you see it moving forward?

Christoffer Wang Bjørnsen: All right. Thank you.

Øystein Dahl Hem: Thanks a lot, Christoffer. Then we will move on to Lisa Wiermyhr from SpareBank 1 Markets. Lisa, can you hear us?

Speaker #3: We thought we would just double-click a little bit on the connected spaces number because it's sort of one big chunk. And just to illustrate that quite a few of the use cases that we report as connected spaces ARR today are in a way linked to self-hosted and sovereign clouds, which is more comparable to the secure and custom business area in the reason why they choose Pexip.

Lisa Wiermyhr: Yes, I can. Good morning. I just have one question. I find slide number 8 really interesting, with 57% of your revenue coming from self-hosted and sovereign cloud, and especially the 11% from Connected Spaces. Can you talk a bit about the development of that figure in Connected Spaces, like over the last year and how you see it moving forward?

Speaker #1: We thought we would just double-click a little bit on the Connected Spaces number because it's sort of one big chunk. And just to illustrate that, quite a few of the use cases that we report as Connected Spaces ARR today are, in a way, linked to self-hosted and sovereign clouds, which is more comparable to the Secure and Custom business area in the reason why they choose Pexip.

Speaker #3: So we're not planning to sort of introduce this as a whole new kind of reporting segment than what we call secure connected will be.

Trond K. Johannessen: We thought we would just double-click a little bit on the Connected Spaces number because it is sort of one big chunk. Just to illustrate that quite a few of the use cases that we report as Connected Spaces ARR today are in a way linked to self-hosted and sovereign clouds, which is more comparable to the Secure and Custom business area in the reason why they choose Pexip. We are not planning to sort of introduce this as a whole new kind of reporting segment than what we call Secure and Connected will be. I think we will refrain from sort of trying to start to give too much detail on that. It is a way of illustrating that Pexip as a whole, the majority of our business is linked to what we can call security and data control. That number as a total will increase.

Trond Johannessen: We thought we would just double-click a little bit on the Connected Spaces number because it is sort of one big chunk. Just to illustrate that quite a few of the use cases that we report as Connected Spaces ARR today are in a way linked to self-hosted and sovereign clouds, which is more comparable to the Secure and Custom business area in the reason why they choose Pexip. We are not planning to sort of introduce this as a whole new kind of reporting segment than what we call Secure and Connected will be. I think we will refrain from sort of trying to start to give too much detail on that. It is a way of illustrating that Pexip as a whole, the majority of our business is linked to what we can call security and data control. That number as a total will increase.

Speaker #3: So I think we will refrain from sort of trying to start to give too much detail on that. But it's a way of illustrating that Pexip as a whole the majority of our business is linked to what we can call security and data control.

Speaker #1: So we're not planning to, sort of, introduce this as a whole new kind of reporting segment than what we call Secure Connected will be.

Speaker #1: So I think we will refrain from sort of trying to start to give too much detail on that, but it's a way of illustrating that Pexip as a whole—the majority of our business is linked to what we can call security and data control.

Speaker #3: And that number as a total will increase. Exactly how this 11% will develop will, of course, depend a lot on the total. We do believe it will increase.

Speaker #1: And that number as a total will increase. Exactly how this 11% will develop will, of course, depend a lot on the total. We do believe it will increase.

Speaker #3: But whether it will increase as a share of the total or just as a ARR number, it's a bit hard to see, to say.

Speaker #1: But whether it will increase as a share of the total or just as an ARR number, it's a bit hard to say.

Speaker #3: But we will keep you posted on the developments here. Somehow.

Speaker #2: Okay. Thank you.

Speaker #1: Thanks a lot, Lisa. Then we'll move on to Marcus Heiberg from SEB.

Speaker #1: But we will keep you posted on the developments here—somehow.

Speaker #6: Thank you.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Elisa. Then we'll move on to Marcus Heiberg from SEB.

Trond K. Johannessen: Exactly how this 11% will develop will of course depend a lot on the total. We do believe it will increase, but whether it will increase as a share of the total or just as an ARR number, it is a bit hard to say, but we will keep you posted on the developments here somehow.

Trond Johannessen: Exactly how this 11% will develop will of course depend a lot on the total. We do believe it will increase, but whether it will increase as a share of the total or just as an ARR number, it is a bit hard to say, but we will keep you posted on the developments here somehow.

Speaker #5: There. Can you hear me?

Speaker #1: Yes. Now we can.

Speaker #5: Yes. Good. Thank you. So just wanted to dig a bit deeper into the secure and custom growth. Now is also very upsell-driven. How do you see that into the second half new customers versus upsell?

Speaker #5: There. Can you hear me?

Speaker #2: Yes. Now we can.

Speaker #5: Yes, good. Thank you. So, I just wanted to dig a bit deeper into the Secure and Custom growth, which is now also very upsell-driven. How do you see that in the second half—new customers versus upsell?

Lisa Wiermyhr: Thank you.

Speaker #5: What do you expect the mix to be into the second half?

Øystein Dahl Hem: Thanks a lot, Lisa. Then we will move on to Markus Heiberg from SEB.

Speaker #1: I think it's a it's a good question. I think what we're seeing is more and more customers sort of starting with a relatively large deployment still.

Speaker #5: What do you expect the mix to be in the second half?

Markus Heiberg: There. Can you hear me?

Speaker #2: I think it's a good question. I think what we're seeing is more and more customers sort of starting with a relatively large deployment, still.

Øystein Dahl Hem: Yes. Now we can.

Markus Heiberg: Yes. Good. Thank you. I just wanted to dig a bit deeper into the Secure and Custom growth. Now it is also very upsell driven. How do you see that into H2, new customers versus upsell? What do you expect the mix to be into H2?

Speaker #1: Sort of a couple of hundred thousand dollars, which is still a meaningful customer. But then expanding materially as they sort of ramp into full production.

Speaker #2: A couple of hundred thousand dollars, which is still a meaningful customer, but then expanding materially as they sort of ramp into full production. And I think that dynamic will continue to be seen.

Speaker #1: And I think that dynamic will continue to see. So with a decent level of new sales, but really with net retention and net upsell.

Speaker #1: Perhaps being the biggest contributor to net growth. Whether sort of on a quarter-to-quarter basis, that will vary a lot from what deals growth.

Speaker #2: So with a decent level of new sales, but really with net retention and net upsell perhaps being the biggest contributor to net growth. Whether, sort of, on a quarter-to-quarter basis, that will vary a lot, from what deals growth.

Øystein Dahl Hem: I think it is a good question. I think what we are seeing is more and more customers starting with a relatively large deployment sales of a couple of hundred thousand dollars, which is still a meaningful customer, but then expanding materially as they ramp into full production.

Speaker #3: And the way you will never see or really see a large customer coming in with like a 1 million dollar ARR from zero into our numbers.

Speaker #1: And the way you will never see, or rarely see, a large customer coming in with, like, a $1 million ARR from zero into our numbers.

Speaker #3: It will generally start with like a couple hundred thousand as Stan says. And then you will add the next 800,000. And then it will be classified as upsell in our numbers and not new sales.

Markus Heiberg: Yes.

Øystein Dahl Hem: I think that dynamic we will continue to see. So with a decent level of new sales, but really with net retention and net upsell, perhaps being the biggest contributor to net growth. Whether on a quarter-to-quarter basis, that will vary a lot from what people see.

Speaker #1: It will generally start with, like, a couple hundred thousand, as Stan says. And then you will add the next $800,000, and then it will be classified as upsell in our numbers and not new sales.

Speaker #3: So we typically drive these

Speaker #1: customers with what we like to call proof of concepts, which is the 2, 300 maybe paid POC. And then there expand from there. And then they start integrating, etc., etc.

Speaker #1: So we typically drive these

Speaker #2: customers with what we like to call proof of concepts, which is the two, three hundred, maybe paid POC. And then they expand from there. And then they start integrating, etc., etc.

Øystein Dahl Hem: The way it works, you will never see or rarely see a large customer coming in with a NOK 1 million ARR from zero into our numbers. It will generally start with a couple of hundred thousand, as Sten says, then you will add the next NOK 800,000, then it will be classified as upsell in our numbers and not new sales.

Speaker #1: So this is a kind of a natural development on the entire secure and custom base that we have. But this is typically how it works.

Speaker #2: So this is a kind of natural development on the entire secure and custom base that we have. But this is typically how it works.

Speaker #1: And also why you will see different from quarter to quarter on these two parameters that we basically asking.

Speaker #2: And also why you will see differences from quarter to quarter on these two parameters that you're basically asking about.

Speaker #5: Thank you. And the final one for me is on the revenue recognition over the past couple of quarters seems to be a bit more front-loaded maybe with the software sales.

[Company Representative] (Pexip): We typically drive these customers with what we like to call proof of concept, which is the 200, 300 maybe paid the POC, then they expand from there, then they start integrating, et cetera. This is a kind of a natural development on the entire Secure and Custom base that we have. This is typically how it works and also why you will see different from quarter to quarter on these two parameters that you are basically asking.

Speaker #5: Thank you. And the final one for me is, on the revenue recognition over the past couple of quarters, it seems to be a bit more front-loaded, maybe with the software sales.

Speaker #5: How do you expect sort of the revenue mix from software sales and as a service sales cloud-based going forward? Should we expect more front-end loaded revenues also going forward?

Speaker #5: How do you expect the revenue mix from software sales versus as-a-service sales, cloud-based, going forward? Should we expect more front-loaded revenues also going forward?

Speaker #1: Yes. I think that's a fair expectation. Although at the relatively modest impact, in terms of the overall. But given that most of the growth is in secure and custom, most of that growth is on software.

Speaker #2: Yes, I think that's a fair expectation, although at the relatively modern impact in terms of the overall. But given that most of the growth is in Secure and Custom.

Markus Heiberg: Thank you. The final one for me is on the revenue recognition over a past couple of quarters seems to be, yeah, a bit more front-loaded, maybe with the software sales. How do you expect the revenue mix from software sales and as a service sales cloud-based going forward? Should we expect more front-end loaded revenues also going forward?

Speaker #1: So I expect that share to grow slightly. And then as a consequence, revenues will be a bit more front-end loaded.

Speaker #2: Most of that growth is on software, so I expect that share to grow slightly. Then, as a consequence, revenues will be a bit more front-end loaded.

Speaker #5: That's good. Thank you.

Speaker #1: Thanks a lot. Let me see. Then we also have Halvor Dybdahl from Arctic. Halvor, can you hear us? No? Then I think we will let me check if we have any we've received one question from the by email from Jürgen Weidemann in Pareto.

Speaker #5: That's good. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Thanks. Let me see. Then we also have Halvor Dybdahl from Arctic. Halvor, can you hear us? No? Then I think we will—let me check if we have any—we've received one question by email from Jürgen Weidemann at Pareto.

Øystein Dahl Hem: Yes, I think that is a fair expectation, although at a relatively modest impact in terms of the overall. Given that most of the growth is in Secure and Custom, most of that growth is on software. So I expect that share to grow slightly, then as a consequence, revenues will be a bit more front-end loaded.

Markus Heiberg: That is clear. Thank you.

Øystein Dahl Hem: Thanks a lot. Let me see. Then we also have Halvor Dybdahl from Arctic. Halvor, can you hear us? Then I think we will. Let me check if we have any. We have received one question by email from Jürgen Weidmann in Pareto. When you say that the H2 development in ARR will be similar to previous periods or accelerate, I seem to remember that Q4 2025 saw substantial growth on large contracts. Do you think the H2 in 2026 will be comparable to the H2 of 2025? Or are you referring more to the underlying growth excluding those contracts? We are referring to the sort of general trends of excluding those extraordinary large contracts in Q4 of last year. So expect H2 to be good, but I would not necessarily sort of put into the baseline that we will deliver another 8 million plus quarter in Q4.

Speaker #1: When you say that the second half development in ARR will be similar to previous periods or accelerate, I seem to remember that Q4 25, so substantial growth on large contracts.

Speaker #2: When you say that the second half development in ARR will be similar to previous periods or accelerate, I seem to remember that Q4 '25 saw substantial growth on large contracts.

Speaker #1: Do you think the second half in 2026 will be comparable to the second half of 2025? Or are you referring more to the underlying growth excluding those contracts?

Speaker #2: Do you think the second half of 2026 will be comparable to the second half of 2025, or are you referring more to the underlying growth excluding those contracts?

Speaker #1: We're referring to the sort of general trends of excluding those extraordinary large contracts in Q4 of last year. So you expect second half to be good.

Speaker #2: We're referring to the sort of general trends of excluding those extraordinarily large contracts in Q4 of last year. So, you expect the second half to be good, but I wouldn't necessarily sort of put into the baseline that we will deliver another $8 million-plus quarter in Q4.

Speaker #1: But I wouldn't necessarily sort of put into the baseline that we'll deliver another 8 million plus quarter in Q4. Very good. With that, we'll wrap up Q&A.

Speaker #1: And thank you so much.

Speaker #2: Very good. With that, we'll wrap up Q&A. Thank you so much.

Øystein Dahl Hem: Very good. With that, we will wrap up Q&A, and thank you so much.

Markus Heiberg: Thank you.

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