Half Year 2026 RENK Group AG Earnings Call

August 6, 2026

Speaker #1: Sie sind der Sitzung als Teilnehmer beigetreten. Sie sind während der Sitzung stummgeschaltet.

Speaker #2: Welcome to the RENK Group H1 2026 conference call. Please note the call will be recorded. During today's call, webcast participants will be in listen-only mode until we conduct the question-and-answer session.

Operator 2: Welcome to the RENK Group H1 2026 conference call. Please note the call will be recorded. During today's call, webcast participants will be in a listen only mode while we conduct the question and answer session. If you wish to ask a question, we ask that you please use the raise hand function at the bottom of your Zoom screen or if you've dialed in, star nine. Further instructions will follow at the time of Q&A. I would now like to turn the call over to Maximilian König, Senior Investor Relations Manager. Please go ahead.

Operator: Welcome to the RENK Group H1 2026 conference call. Please note the call will be recorded. During today's call, webcast participants will be in a listen only mode while we conduct the question and answer session. If you wish to ask a question, we ask that you please use the raise hand function at the bottom of your Zoom screen or if you've dialed in, star nine. Further instructions will follow at the time of Q&A. I would now like to turn the call over to Maximilian König, Senior Investor Relations Manager. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: If you wish to ask a question, we ask that you please use the raise hand function at the bottom of your Zoom screen, or, if you've dialed in, press star 9.

Speaker #2: Further instructions will follow at the time of Q&A. I would now like to turn the call over to Maximilian König, Senior Investor Relations Manager.

Speaker #2: Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Thank you very much, Operator. Good morning. Welcome, everyone, to our H1 2026 results conference call. With me today are our CEO, Dr. Alexander Sagel, and our CFO, Anja Manz.

Maximilian König: Thank you very much, operator. Good morning. Welcome everyone to our H1 2026 results conference call. With me today are our CEO, Dr. Alexander Sagel, and our CFO, Anja Mänz-Siebje. Alexander and Anja will guide you through today's presentation. Afterwards, we will open the floor for your questions. Let me now hand over to Alexander. Alexander, please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Alexander and Anja will guide you through today's presentation. Afterwards, we will open the floor for your questions. Let me now hand over to Alexander.

Speaker #3: Alexander, please go ahead.

Speaker #4: Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, also from my side, a very warm welcome and many thanks for joining today's H1 2026 conference call.

Alexander Sagel: Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, also from my side, a very warm welcome and many thanks for joining today's H1 2026 conference call. For the sake of time, let me start directly by going into the presentation. However, please allow me just some very quick personal remarks upfront. The last six to seven months were very successful for RENK in regards to financial performance, credibility, technological milestones, and major steps forward towards strategy execution. We are fully on track to deliver our 2026 guidance and to position us, as always communicated, in the upper half of the adjusted EBIT range. Having said this, ladies and gentlemen, let's move now to slide one, showing a selection of highlights for Q2.

Speaker #4: For the sake of time, let me start directly by going into the presentation. However, please allow me just a few very quick personal remarks up front.

Speaker #4: The last six to seven months were very successful for RENK in regards to financial performance, credibility, technological milestones, and major steps forward towards strategy execution.

Speaker #4: We are fully on track to deliver our 2026 guidance and to position us, as always communicated, in the upper half of the adjusted EBIT range.

Speaker #4: Having said this, ladies and gentlemen, let's move now to slide 1, showing a selection of highlights for the second quarter. The strong order intake is clearly one of these highlights, and therefore, let me start directly with a quick review of some of the larger key order intakes during Q2.

Alexander Sagel: The strong order intake is clearly one of these highlights. Let me start directly with a quick review of some of the larger key order intakes during Q2. First, we extended our framework agreement with Rheinmetall on the Lynx program, including transmissions and final drives worth up to EUR 270 million and including further options in the range of EUR 63 million. Furthermore, RENK America was awarded the follow-on SOF fourth frame contract by the US Army, up to $691 million over 5 years and also including further upside options. In Q2, we already booked around EUR 121 million of order intake according to contract terms.

Speaker #4: First, we extended our framework agreement with Rheinmetall on the Lynx program, including transmissions and final drives worth up to €270 million, and including further options in the range of €63 million.

Speaker #4: Furthermore, RENK America was awarded the follow-on SOF4 frame contract by the US Army—up to $691 million over 5 years, and also including further upside options. In Q2, we already booked around €121 million as order intake, according to contract terms.

Speaker #4: In addition, and staying in the domain land for a moment, we saw further orders for engines from an international customer, more spare parts orders in our lead plant here in Augsburg, and the very first Patria track series orders, which were further supported by a recent collaboration agreement between Finland, Norway, and Latvia during the NATO summit in Ankara.

Alexander Sagel: In addition, staying in the domain land for a moment, we saw further orders for engines from an international customer, more spare parts orders in our lead plant here in Augsburg, and the very first Patria track series orders, which were further supported by a recent collaboration agreement between Finland, Norway, and Latvia during the NATO summit in Ankara. Last, but certainly not least, also our Navy business showed strong order momentum with orders from various international frigate programs. For example, the FREMM in Italy or the MİLGEM in Turkey, just to name a few of them. In total, we enjoyed a record H1 order intake of roughly EUR 1.2 billion, clearly demonstrating continued strong and international demand for our products and technologies. For your information, approximately 13% of the order intake from H1 comes from the German customer.

Speaker #4: Last, but certainly not least, our navy business also showed strong order momentum with orders from various international frigate programs—for example, the FREMM in Italy or the MILGEM in Turkey. In total, we enjoyed a record H1 order intake of roughly €1.2 billion, clearly demonstrating continued strong and international demand for our products and technologies.

Speaker #4: For your information, approximately 13%, or 1.3, of the order intake from H1 comes from the German customer. Also, during Q2, we proudly celebrated the 4,000th level 2 transmission going into production.

Alexander Sagel: Also during Q2, we proudly celebrated the 4,000th Leopard 2 transmission going into production. Needless to say that the Leopard 2 is one of the most relevant MBT platforms worldwide, and RENK truly is a proud sole source supplier for this program in over 20 countries and over 40 years. A very important highlight of the second quarter was certainly the Eurosatory in June. Together with Patria, we presented our concept of a heavy tracked UGV, where the digitalization of our transmission is the core enabler for future unmanned mobility. The strong interest from various customers, MODs, and the media was not only very impressive, but also underlining the leading role of RENK in this new product segment in combination with our today's strong market position.

Speaker #4: Needless to say, Level 2 is one of the most relevant MPT platforms worldwide, and RENK truly is a proud sole source supplier for this program in over 20 countries and for over 40 years.

Speaker #4: A very important highlight of the second quarter was certainly Eurosatory in June. Together with Patria, we presented our concept of a heavy tracked UGV, where the digitalization of our transmission is the core enabler for future unmanned mobility.

Speaker #4: The strong interest from various customers, MODs, and the media was not only very impressive, but also underlined the leading role of RENK in this new product segment, in combination with our strong market position today.

Speaker #4: One milestone I'm personally very proud of is the signing of David Brown Defence, where we are doing nothing less than building the global leader in naval power transmissions with unique access to the Five Eyes markets and, so far at least for us, uncovering new product segments and technologies.

Alexander Sagel: One milestone I am personally very proud of, the signing of David Brown Defence, where we are doing nothing less than building the global leader in naval power transmissions with unique access to the Five Eyes markets and so far, at least for us, uncovered new product segments and technologies. In different words, consequently executing our M&A strategy. Ladies and gentlemen, let's move now to slide two, which summarize the group performance for H1. Sorry, I was on the wrong page. As you can see in the orange boxes at the top, all relevant KPIs are showing a quite positive development. Starting with the order intake. As mentioned before, a very strong H1 performance with a book-to-bill ratio of 1.9, where the approximately EUR 1.2 billion order intake is almost on a similar level as 2025 after 9 months.

Speaker #4: Or, in other words, consequently executing our M&A strategy. Ladies and gentlemen, let's move now to slide 2, which summarizes the Group performance for H1.

Speaker #4: Before we go into a more detailed discussion—sorry, I was on the wrong page. As you can see in the orange boxes at the top, all relevant KPIs are showing quite a positive development.

Speaker #4: Starting with the order intake, as mentioned before, a very strong H1 performance with a book-to-bill ratio of 1.9, where the approximately €1.2 billion order intake is almost on a similar level as 2025 after 9 months.

Speaker #4: On the revenue side, growth is fully in line with our fixed order backlog and customer delivery schedules. Please let me remind you, at this point, of our well-known Israel effect.

Alexander Sagel: On the revenue side, growth is fully in line with our fixed order backlog and customer delivery schedules. Please let me remind you at this point of our well-known Israel effect. In the first two quarters of 2025, we had approximately EUR 20 to 25 million of revenues per quarter related to Israel. For 2026, the deliveries were and are scheduled, according to our customer contracts, to start at the end of Q2 and peaking during H2. For your information, the deliveries have started as planned. Adjusted EBIT grew strongly by around 10% year-on-year, once again clearly outpacing revenue growth, and the margin continued to expand to 15.4%, driven by the operating impact of our modular production line and group-wide performance measures. Finally, our defense business is slightly up to now 75%, while our high aftermarket share remains stable with a strong aftermarket performance in Q2.

Speaker #4: In the first two quarters of 2025, we had approximately €20 to €25 million of revenues per quarter related to Israel. For 2026, the deliveries were and are scheduled, according to our customer contracts, to start at the end of Q2 and peak during H2.

Speaker #4: For your information, the deliveries have started as planned. Adjusted EBIT grew strongly by around 10% year on year, once again clearly outpacing revenue growth, and the margin continued to expand to 15.4%, driven by the operating impact of our modular production line and group-wide performance measures.

Speaker #4: Finally, our defense business is slightly up, now at 75%, while our high aftermarket share remains stable with strong aftermarket performance in Q2. For your information, we are currently in the process of finalizing our aftermarket strategy 2035.

Alexander Sagel: For your information, we are currently in the process to finalize our aftermarket strategy 2035. From today's perspective, we are confident to secure a stable aftermarket share of approximately 35% to 40% by 2030, despite a significant increase of new business. Beyond 2030, we do see further substantial growth potential of in total up to EUR 2 billion of revenues per year towards 2035. Ladies and gentlemen, before we are going into a more detailed discussion of our business performance, please allow me to briefly put a couple of recent and important events during H1 into our RENK perspective. The bigger picture is straightforward. NATO and relevant member countries are clearly on the move, committed to increasing defense spendings and defined capability requirements, and growing into a new role of responsibility or so-called burden-sharing. The NATO summit in Ankara confirmed the 5% total defense spending target from last year.

Speaker #4: From today's perspective, we are confident that we can secure a stable aftermarket share of approximately 35% to 40% by 2030, despite a significant increase in new business.

Speaker #4: Beyond 2030, we do see further substantial growth potential of, in total, up to €2 billion of revenues per year toward 2035. Ladies and gentlemen, before we go into a more detailed discussion of our business performance, please allow me to briefly put a couple of recent and important events during H1 into our RENK perspective.

Speaker #4: The bigger picture is straightforward. NATO and relevant member countries are clearly on the move, committed to increasing defense spending and defined capability requirements, and growing into a new role of responsibility, or so-called burden sharing.

Speaker #4: The NATO summit in Ankara confirmed the 5% total defense spending target from last year, and the forecast has shifted from debate to implementation.

Alexander Sagel: The focus has shifted from debate to implementation with faster execution and faster delivery expectations. The United States will further increase defense spending, and the same is true for countries like, for example, Germany and UK, which are planning to invest more than EUR 900 billion during the next four years. Equally important is the so-called capability mix the alliance had defined already during last year's summit in The Hague, including besides air defense, long-range precision strike, ISR and space, the so-called conventional mass, which covers land and sea platforms, ammunition, drones, and unmanned platforms. Nothing more, but also nothing less was confirmed in Ankara. From a strategic perspective, it is important to understand that armored land and sea platforms continue to play a key important role in the future combat readiness of the alliance.

Speaker #4: With faster execution and faster delivery, expectations are that the United States will further increase defense spending, and the same is true for countries like, for example, Germany and the UK, which are planning to invest more than €900 billion during the next four years.

Speaker #4: Equally important is the so-called capability mix, which the alliance had already defined during last year's summit in Den Haag. This includes, besides air defense, long-range precision strike, ISR, and space, the so-called conventional mass, which covers land and sea platforms, ammunition, drones, and unmanned platforms.

Speaker #4: Nothing more, but also nothing less, was confirmed in Ankara. From a strategic perspective, it is important to understand that armored land and sea platforms continue to play a key role in the future combat readiness of the alliance.

Speaker #4: Germany, for example, already awarded during the last 12 months contracts for armored land platforms of more than €18 billion, while the so-called recruitment authorizations—PAs—are with more than €44 billion still on a very high level.

Alexander Sagel: Germany, for example, already awarded during the last 12 months contracts for armored land platforms of more than EUR 18 billion. While the so-called procurement authorizations, PAs, are with more than EUR 44 billion still on a very high level. From a RENK perspective, it is important to understand that the current budgets and capability mix are fully in line with our scenarios and midterm targets for 2030 and beyond. Let's move now to slide number four. As you all know, defense is the core of our business and the main driving force behind our group performance. Defense-related order intake grew strongly to roughly EUR 1 billion in H1, +48% compared to last year, driven by strong and ongoing demand across our international core markets. On the revenue side, defense grew to around EUR 488 million or +6% versus H1 2025.

Speaker #4: From a RENK perspective, it is important to understand that the current budgets and capability mix are fully in line with our scenarios and midterm targets for 2030 and beyond.

Speaker #4: Let's move now to slide number four. As you all know, defense is the core of our business and the main driving force behind our crew performance.

Speaker #4: Defense-related order intake grew strongly to roughly €1 billion in H1, up 48% compared to last year, driven by strong and ongoing demand across our international core markets.

Speaker #4: On the revenue side, defense grew to around €488 million, or plus 6% versus H1 2025. Normalizing the H1 2026 defense revenue for the before-mentioned Israel effect, the underlying growth would be higher, in the mid-teens.

Alexander Sagel: Normalizing the H1 2026 defense revenue for the before-mentioned Israel effect, the underlying growth would be higher, the mid teens. Ladies and gentlemen, please allow me to have a quick and really only a quick view on our division starting with VMS on page five. More details will come later, of course, from Anja. VMS is once again our clear and absolute growth engine. Revenue grew by around 8% in H1 2026, fully in line with customer contracts and delivery schedules. Order intake showed a new record H1 of EUR 970 million to almost EUR 1 billion, which is +43% year-on-year and related to a book-to-bill ratio of 2.3. The modular assembly line in Augsburg, no news, is up and running, showing good performance and supporting strong margin improvements. Moving now quickly to our marine and industry division.

Speaker #4: Ladies and gentlemen, please allow me to have a quick—and really, only a quick—view on our division, starting with VMS on page five.

Speaker #4: More details will come later, of course, from Anja. VMS is once again our clear and absolute growth engine. Revenue grew by around 8% in H1 2026, fully in line with customer contracts and delivery schedules.

Speaker #4: Order intake showed a new record in H1 of €970 million, almost €1 billion, which is up 43% year on year and corresponds to a book-to-bill ratio of 2.3.

Speaker #4: The modular assembly line in Augsburg, no news, is up and running, showing good performance and supporting strong margin improvements. Moving now quickly to our Marine and Industry division.

Speaker #4: Regarding revenues, 2026 started slow during Q1, but showed a significantly better performance during Q2, including a partial recovery of customer-induced delays from Q1. The navy business is clearly the driver of the M&I performance, while the industrial part remains under cyclical market pressure.

Alexander Sagel: Regarding revenues, 2026 started slow during Q1 but showed a significantly better performance during Q2, including a partial recovery of customer-induced delays from Q1. The Navy business is clearly the driver of the M&I performance, while the industrial part remains under cyclical market pressure. As a result, H1 revenues came in 6% below last year's performance. Regarding order intake, we do see a similar picture. Strong Q2 performance compared to Q1, but overall with EUR 164 million for H1 at a lower level compared to H1 2025. Last but not least, a few words on Slide Bearings. Revenues came in slightly below prior year, reflecting ongoing headwinds from weak industrial end markets and lower aftermarket business in H1 2026. Ladies and gentlemen, let's move now to the last slide of my introduction, our total order backlog.

Speaker #4: As a result, H1 revenues came in 6% below last year's performance. Regarding order intake, we do see a similar picture: strong Q2 performance compared to Q1, but overall, with €164 million for H1, at a lower level compared to H1 2025.

Speaker #4: Last but not least, a few words on slight variance. Revenues came in slightly below the prior year, reflecting ongoing headwinds from weak industrial end markets and lower aftermarket business in H1 2026.

Speaker #4: Ladies and gentlemen, let's move now to the last slide of my introduction: our total order backlog. Despite a strong revenue conversion, our fixed order backlog further increased to now €2.8 billion, driven by a strong order intake, and finally leading to a total order backlog of €7.4 billion, which is roughly 5.3 times our LTM revenues.

Alexander Sagel: Despite a strong revenue conversion, our fixed order backlog further increased to now EUR 2.8 billion, driven by the strong order intake and finally leading to a total order backlog of EUR 7.4 billion, which is roughly 5.3 times our LTM revenues. Also important to note that approximately 75% of our total order backlog is widely spread across our international customer base, where Germany contributes with approximately 24%. This geographic diversification truly is, besides our strong aftermarket business, a very important USP of RENK. Having said this, I would like now to hand over to Anja for a deeper look into our Q2 financials. Anja, over to you.

Speaker #4: Also important to note is that approximately 75% of our total order backlog is widely spread across our international customer base, with Germany contributing approximately 24%.

Speaker #4: This geographic diversification truly is, besides our strong aftermarket business, a very important USP of RENK. Having said this, I would like now to hand over to Anja for a deeper look into our Q2 financials.

Speaker #4: Anja, over to you.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Alexander, and a warm welcome from my side as well. The first half of 2026 combined record order momentum with further progress in profitability. Group order intake reached almost €1.2 billion, book-to-bill improved to 1.9 times, and fixed order backlog increased to around €2.8 billion.

Anja Mänz-Siebje: Thank you, Alexander, and a warm welcome from my side as well. The H1 2026 combined record order momentum with further progress and profitability. Group order intake reached almost EUR 1.2 billion, book-to-bill improved to 1.9 times, and fixed order backlog increased around EUR 2.8 billion. Revenues grew more moderately, reflecting a strong execution in VMS and lower volumes in M&I and Slide Bearings. Adjusted EBIT increased by 10.1%, clearly ahead of revenue, and the margin improved to 15.4%. This was driven by higher output and better capacity utilization in VMS. Reported earnings, however, were affected by higher M&A and transformation-related expenses. At the divisional level, VMS delivered strong growth across orders, revenues, and earnings. M&I remained below the prior year for H1, but improved materially in Q2. Slide Bearings continued to face pressure from weak industrial demand, lower utilization, and product mix.

Speaker #2: Revenues grew more moderately, reflecting strong execution in VMS and lower volumes in M&I and slight variance. Adjusted EBIT increased by 10.1%, clearly ahead of revenue, and the margin improved to 15.4%.

Speaker #2: This was driven by higher output and better capacity utilization in VMS. Reported earnings, however, were affected by higher M&A and transformation-related expenses. At the division level, VMS delivered strong growth across orders, revenues, and earnings.

Speaker #2: M&I remained below the prior year for the first half, but improved materially in the second quarter. Slight variance continued to face pressure from weak industrial demand, lower utilization, and product mix.

Speaker #2: Free cash flow increased to approximately €42 million, while net working capital remained broadly stable and leverage stayed at 1.5 times. Overall, the first half confirms strong demand, improving operating leverage, and significantly strong cash generation.

Anja Mänz-Siebje: Free cash flow increased to approximately EUR 42 million, while net working capital remained broadly stable, and leverage stayed at 1.5x. Overall, H1 confirms strong demand, improving operating leverage, and significantly strong cash generation. Let's start with our group performance in H1 2026. Order intake increased by 29.7% year-over-year, from EUR 921 million to a record high of around EUR 1.2 billion. Q2 was particularly strong, with order intake increasing by 64% to EUR 613 million. As Alexander described already in more detail, this development was mainly driven by VMS and continued high demand for land-based defense mobility solutions. Revenue increased moderately by 2.7%, from EUR 620 million to EUR 637 million. In Q2, revenue grew by 2% to EUR 354 million. Higher output and continued execution in VMS more than compensated for lower H1 revenue in Marine and Industry and Slide Bearings.

Speaker #2: Let's start with our group performance in the first half of 2026. Order intake increased by 29.7% year over year, from €921 million to a record high of around €1.2 billion.

Speaker #2: The second quarter was particularly strong, with order intake increasing by 64% to €613 million. As Alexander described already in more detail, this development was mainly driven by VMS and continued high demand for land-based defense mobility solutions.

Speaker #2: Revenue increased moderately by 2.7%, from €620 million to €637 million. In the second quarter, revenue grew by 2% to €354 million. Higher output and continued execution in VMS more than compensated for lower first-half revenue in Marine and Industry, and slight variance.

Speaker #2: As a result, our book-to-bill ratio improved from 1.5 times to a very strong 1.9 times for the first half-year of 2026.

Anja Mänz-Siebje: As a result, our book-to-bill ratio improved from 1.5x to a very strong 1.9x for H1 2026. With a Q2 ratio of 1.7x, order intake remained at a high level. This strong demand environment translated into further growth in our fixed order backlog. Compared with year-end 2025, fixed order backlog increased by 25.9%, from approximately EUR 2.3 billion to approximately EUR 2.8 billion. This provides us with a high degree of visibility for coming periods. The key takeaway is that RENK continued to strengthen its future business base. Demand remains very strong. Backlog reached a new level, and we are progressively translating this demand into higher revenue through the ongoing production ramp-up. Moving on to profitability and leverage. Adjusted gross profit increased by 7.8%, from EUR 171 million in H1 2025 to EUR 184 million in H1 2026.

Speaker #2: With a second quarter ratio of 1.7 times, order intake remained at a high level. This strong demand environment translated into further growth in our fixed order backlog.

Speaker #2: Compared with year-end 2025, fixed order backlog increased by 25.9%, from approximately €2.3 billion to approximately €2.8 billion. This provides us with a high degree of visibility for upcoming periods.

Speaker #2: The key takeaway is that RENK continued to strengthen its future business base. Demand remains very strong, backlog reached a new level, and we are progressively translating this demand into higher revenue through the ongoing production ramp-up.

Speaker #2: Moving on to profitability and leverage. Adjusted gross profit increased by 7.8%, from €171 million in the first half of 2025 to €184 million in the first half of 2026. The adjusted gross profit margin improved from 27.6% to 28.9%.

Anja Mänz-Siebje: The adjusted gross profit margin improved from 27.6% to 28.9%. This development was primarily supported by higher output and positive scale effects in VMS, which more than offset the volume and mix-related pressures in M&I and Slide Bearings. Q2 confirms the same pattern. Adjusted gross profit increased by 8% to EUR 100 million, while the margin improved from 26.7% to 28.3%. Adjusted EBIT increased even more strongly, by 10.1%, from EUR 89 million to EUR 98 million. As a result, the adjusted EBIT margin expanded by one percentage point, from 14.4% to 15.4%. In Q2, adjusted EBIT increased by 10% to EUR 56 million, with the margin improving from 14.6% to 15.8%. This is an important point, because earnings growth again clearly outpaced revenue growth. It demonstrates the operating leverage within the group and, in particular, the benefits from the continued production ramp-up and higher capacity utilization in VMS.

Speaker #2: This development was primarily supported by higher output and positive scale effects in VMS, which more than offset the volume- and mix-related pressures in M&I and slight variance.

Speaker #2: The second quarter confirms the same pattern. Adjusted gross profit increased by 8% to €100 million, while the margin improved from 26.7% to 28.3%. Adjusted EBIT increased even more strongly, by 10.1%, from €89 million to €98 million.

Speaker #2: As a result, the adjusted EBIT margin expanded by 1 percentage point, from 14.4% to 15.4%. In the second quarter, adjusted EBIT increased by 10% to €56 million, with the margin improving from 14.6% to 15.8%.

Speaker #2: This is an important point because earnings growth, again, clearly outpaced revenue growth. It demonstrates the operating leverage within the Group and, in particular, the benefits from the continued production ramp-up and higher capacity utilization in VMS.

Speaker #2: On the balance sheet, net debt increased moderately by €16 million, or 4.1%, from €391 million at year end to €407 million at the end of June 2026.

Anja Mänz-Siebje: On the balance sheet, net debt increased moderately by EUR 16 million or 4.1%, from EUR 391 million at year-end to EUR 407 million at the end of June 2026. At the same time, leverage remained stable at 1.5x last 12 months adjusted EBITDA. This development also needs to be seen in the context of the EUR 58 million dividend payment during H1 2026. In summary, RENK continued to deliver profitable growth and margin expansion while maintaining stable leverage and a disciplined financial position. Let us turn to VMS, where business momentum strengthened further during H1 2026. Its role as our growth engine was already highlighted by Alexander. The division secured EUR 970 million of new orders, an increase of 42.6% compared with the prior year period. Almost half of this amount was booked in Q2, when order intake rose by 73% to EUR 492 million.

Speaker #2: At the same time, leverage remained stable at 1.5 times last 12 months’ adjusted EBITDA. This development also needs to be seen in the context of the €58 million dividend payment during the first half of 2026.

Speaker #2: In summary, RENK continued to deliver profitable growth and margin expansion, while maintaining stable leverage and a disciplined financial position. Let us turn to VMS, where business momentum strengthened further during the first half of 2026.

Speaker #2: Its role as our growth engine was already highlighted by Alexander. The division secured €970 million of new orders, an increase of 42.6% compared with the prior-year period. Almost half of this amount was booked in the second quarter, when order intake rose by 73% to €492 million. This reflects the sustained pace of customer demand for land-based defense applications and further enhances the division's already strong revenue visibility.

Anja Mänz-Siebje: This reflects the sustained pace of customer demand for land-based defense application and further enhances the division's already strong revenue visibility. Revenue reached EUR 419 million, up 7.6% year-over-year. Q2 revenue increased by 5% to EUR 227 million. The progress reflects tangible improvements in production throughput, including the modular setup in Augsburg, together with a strong contribution from our operations in Muskegon. The quality of this growth is particularly visible in earnings. Adjusted EBIT rose by 20.5% to EUR 80 million, considerably faster than revenue, and the adjusted EBIT margin increased from 17.1% to 19.2%. In Q2, the margin reached 19.9%, supported by higher volumes, improved utilization, and the resulting fixed cost absorption. The widening gap between revenue growth and earnings growth illustrates how the ongoing industrial ramp-up is translating into stronger operating leverage. VMS combined exceptional order momentum with higher output and a further step up in profitability.

Speaker #2: Revenue reached €419 million, up 7.6% year over year. Second quarter revenue increased by 5% to €227 million. The progress reflects tangible improvements in production throughput, including the modular setup in Augsburg, together with a strong contribution from our operations in Magdeburg.

Speaker #2: The quality of this growth is particularly visible in earnings. Adjusted EBIT rose by 20.5% to €80 million, considerably faster than revenue, and the adjusted EBIT margin increased from 17.1% to 19.2%.

Speaker #2: In the second quarter, the margin reached 19.9%, supported by higher volumes, improved utilization, and the resulting fixed cost absorption. The widening gap between revenue growth and earnings growth illustrates how the ongoing industrial ramp-up is translating into stronger operating leverage.

Speaker #2: VMS combined exceptional order momentum with higher output and a further step-up in profitability. Turning next to M&I, the first half-year figures show a mixed picture, with a noticeably strong second quarter.

Anja Mänz-Siebje: Turning next to M&I. The H1 figures show a mixed picture with a noticeably strong Q2. New orders totaled EUR 164 million, 9.9% below the prior year level of EUR 183 million. The quarterly development, however, moved in a positive direction. Q2 order intake reached EUR 94 million, up 57% year-over-year. This rebound was supported by the naval and aftermarket businesses and materially reduced the shortfall recorded after Q1. Revenue for the H1 period amounted to EUR 165 million, compared with EUR 176 million a year earlier. The decline narrowed to only 3% in Q2, when revenue reached EUR 100 million. Some planned deliveries were not finalized within the reported period and will therefore contribute in later quarters.

Speaker #2: New orders totaled €164 million, 9.9% below the prior year level of €183 million. The quarterly developments, however, moved in a positive direction. Second quarter order intake reached €94 million, up 57% year over year.

Speaker #2: This rebound was supported by the Naval and Aftermarket businesses and materially reduced the shortfall recorded after the first quarter. Revenue for the first half-year period amounted to €165 million, compared with €176 million a year earlier.

Speaker #2: The decline narrowed to only 3% in the second quarter, when revenue reached €100 million. Some planned deliveries were not finalized within the reported period and will therefore contribute in later quarters.

Speaker #2: Adjusted EBIT came in at €16 million, versus €19 million in the first half of 2025, corresponding to a margin of 9.9% compared to 10.7% in the prior-year period.

Anja Mänz-Siebje: Adjusted EBIT came in at EUR 16 million versus EUR 19 million in H1 2025, corresponding to a margin of 9.9% compared to 10.7% in the prior year period. Lower H1 volumes limited fixed cost absorption and consequently weighed on earnings. In Q2, adjusted EBIT increased by 5% to EUR 12 million, and the margin improved from 11.1% to 11.9%, supported by a stronger business mix and higher margin naval activities. Overall, the H1 comparison remains below last year, but the direction of travel improved materially during Q2. The recovery in order intake and profitability supports the view that naval business remains fundamentally sound, while the remaining revenue gap is predominantly linked to delivery phasing. Slide Bearings continued to face weaker industrial headwinds during H1, with limited top-line movement but a more pronounced impact on earnings.

Speaker #2: Lower first-half volumes limited fixed cost absorption and consequently weighed on earnings. In the second quarter, adjusted EBIT increased by 5% to €12 million, and the margin improved from 11.1% to 11.9%, supported by a stronger business mix and higher-margin naval activities.

Speaker #2: Overall, the first-half comparison remains below last year, but the direction of travel improved materially during the second quarter. The recovery in order intake and profitability supports the view that the naval business remains fundamentally sound, while the remaining revenue gap is predominantly linked to delivery phasing.

Speaker #2: Slight variance continued to face weaker industrial headwinds during the first half, with limited top-line movement, but a more pronounced impact on earnings. Order intake amounted to €64 million, compared with €66 million in the prior-year period.

Anja Mänz-Siebje: Order intake amounted to EUR 64 million, compared with EUR 66 million in the prior year period. Q2 was stable at EUR 30 million, indicating that demand did not deteriorate fundamentally, although the division has yet to see a meaningful recovery in its industrial end markets. Revenue came in at EUR 60 million, 4.4% below the previous year. Q2 revenue declined by 7% to EUR 30 million. Overall, the top line remained comparatively resilient despite a lack of broader market growth. The earnings effect was more substantial. Adjusted EBIT decreased from EUR 10 million to EUR 8 million in H1, resulting in a margin of 12.5% compared with 16.6% a year earlier. In Q2, adjusted EBIT was EUR 3 million and the margin stood at 11.7%. This difference between the relative moderate revenue decline and the above-average reduction in earnings reflects lower factory utilization and a less supportive product mix.

Speaker #2: The second quarter was stable at 30 million, indicating that demand did not deteriorate fundamentally, although the division has yet to see a meaningful recovery in its industrial end markets.

Speaker #2: Revenue came in at $60 million, 4.4% below the previous year. Second quarter revenue declined by 7% to $30 million. Overall, the top line remained comparatively resilient despite the lack of broader market growth.

Speaker #2: The earnings effect was more substantial. Adjusted EBIT decreased from €10 million to €8 million in the first half, resulting in a margin of 12.5% compared with 16.6% a year earlier.

Speaker #2: In the second quarter, adjusted EBIT was €3 million, and the margin stood at 11.7%. This difference between the relatively moderate revenue decline and the above-average reduction in earnings reflects lower factory utilization and a less supportive product mix. With fewer volumes passing through the existing cost base, the division was unable to maintain the exceptionally strong profitability recorded in the prior year.

Anja Mänz-Siebje: With fewer volumes passing through the existing cost base, the division was unable to maintain the exceptionally strong profitability recorded in the prior year. In essence, Slide Bearings preserved a broadly stable business base, but the current industrial environment constrained both operating leverage and mix. A more visible improvement in profitability will therefore depend on a recovery in volumes and a normalization of the product mix. Let me move on to our bridge from reported operating profit to the underlying earnings performance of the group. Operating profit was broadly stable at EUR 58 million, compared with EUR 59 million in the H1 of last year. Purchase price allocation effects were also virtually unchanged with EUR 21.9 million. The main year-over-year movement therefore came from the remaining adjustments, which increased from EUR 7.8 million to EUR 18.2 million. Around EUR 10 million related to M&A activities, primarily related to the acquisition of David Brown Defence.

Speaker #2: In essence, slight variance preserved a broadly stable business base, but the current industrial environment constrained both operating leverage and mix. A more visible improvement in profitability will therefore depend on a recovery in volumes and a normalization of the product mix.

Speaker #2: Now, let me move on to our bridge from reported operating profit to the underlying earnings performance of the Group. Operating profit was broadly stable at €58 million, compared with €59 million in the first half of last year. Purchase price allocation effects were also virtually unchanged at €21.9 million.

Speaker #2: The main year-over-year movement therefore came from the remaining adjustments, which increased from €7.8 million to €18.2 million—around €10 million related to M&A activities, primarily related to the acquisition of David Brown Defense.

Speaker #2: The balance mainly reflects the implementation of group-wide process standards, system improvements, and severance-related expenses. After accounting for these items, adjusted EBIT reached around €98 million, up from €89 million in the prior year period.

Anja Mänz-Siebje: The balance mainly reflects the implementation of group-wide process standard, system improvements, and severance related expenses. After accounting for these items, adjusted EBIT reached around EUR 98 million, up from EUR 89 million in the prior year period. Adjusted EBITDA increased by a similar rate of around EUR 115 million. The important distinction here is between the reported result and the underlying operating development. Reported operating profit absorbed a higher level of transaction and transformation expenditure, whereas the adjusted figure reflects the clear earnings improvement generated by the business. Looking at net working capital, the overall position was virtually unchanged over the first six months. Net working capital closed June 2026 at EUR 344 million, compared with EUR 345 million at year-end. Relative to last 12 months revenue, the ratio edged down from 25.2% to 24.9%, despite the continued expansion of production activity. The composition, however, shifted meaningfully.

Speaker #2: Adjusted EBITDA increased by a similar rate, of around €115 million. The important distinction here is between the reported result and the underlying operating development.

Speaker #2: Reported operating profit absorbed a higher level of transaction and transformation expenditure, whereas the adjusted figure reflects the clear earnings improvement generated by the business.

Speaker #2: Looking at net working capital, the overall position was virtually unchanged over the first six months. Net working capital closed June 2026 at €344 million, compared with €345 million at year-end.

Speaker #2: Relative to last 12 months' revenue, the ratio comes down from 25.2% to 24.9%, despite the continued expansion of production activity. The composition, however, shifted meaningfully.

Speaker #2: Inventories rose by €71 million to €507 million, as we increased work in progress and secured materials for the planned output ramp-up for the second half of the year, particularly within VMS Augsburg.

Anja Mänz-Siebje: Inventories rose by EUR 71 million to EUR 507 million as we increased work in progress and secured materials for the planned output ramp-up for the H2, particularly within VMS Augsburg. This build is therefore closely linked to scheduled customer deliveries and the conversion of our order book. This increase in inventory was offset by favorable movements related to the remaining components, mainly driven by cut-off effects. Customer receivables declined by EUR 44 million to EUR 331 million, while prepayments received increased by EUR 25 million to EUR 347 million. Trade payables also provided a modest contribution, rising to EUR 147 million. Taken together, these developments kept the group's net working capital broadly flat while enabling a higher level of operational activity. Going forward, our priority remains to control the elevated inventory position and to turn it into deliveries, revenue, and cash as planned.

Speaker #2: This build is therefore closely linked to scheduled customer deliveries and the conversion book. This increase in inventory was offset by favorable movements related to the remaining components.

Speaker #2: Mainly driven by cut-off effects, customer receivables declined by €44 million to €331 million, while prepayments received increased by €25 million to €347 million. Freight payables also provided a modest contribution, rising to €147 million.

Speaker #2: Taken together, these developments kept the group's net working capital broadly flat while enabling a higher level of operational activity. Going forward, our priority remains to control the elevated inventory position and to turn it into deliveries, revenue, and cash as planned.

Speaker #2: The first half, cash flow bridge, shows a marked improvement in cash generation compared with the prior-year period. Adjusted EBITDA provided a starting point at around €115 million.

Anja Mänz-Siebje: The H1 cash flow bridge shows a marked improvement in cash generation compared with the prior year period. Adjusted EBITDA provided a starting point at around EUR 150 million. From this amount, EUR 18 million of adjustments were deducted, reflecting the transaction and transformation related items covered in the previous slide. Working capital contributed approximately EUR 6 million to cash flow. The positive overall effect resulted from lower receivables and higher customer prepayments, which more than compensated for the continued increase in inventories required for the production ramp-up. Cash outflow was also included around EUR 17 million to capital expenditure and around EUR 20 million to tax payments. After other cash flow effects, unlevered free cash flow amounted to EUR 54 million, following the interest results of around EUR 12 million. Reported free cash flow reached around EUR 42 million. Compared with EUR 11.5 million in the H1 of last year, this represents a substantial step up.

Speaker #2: From this amount, €18 million of adjustments were deducted, reflecting the transaction and transformation-related items covered in the previous slide. Working capital contributed approximately €6 million to cash flow. The positive overall effect resulted from lower receivables and higher customer prepayments, which more than compensated for the continued increase in inventories required for the production ramp-up.

Speaker #2: Cash outflow also included around €17 million for capital expenditure and around €20 million for tax payments. After other cash flow effects, unlevered free cash flow amounted to €54 million. Following the interest results of around €12 million, reported free cash flow reached around €42 million.

Speaker #2: Compared with 11.5 million in the first half of last year, this represents a substantial step up. The improvement was supported by stronger working capital performance, although part of the development reflects payment patterns and reporting date effects.

Anja Mänz-Siebje: The improvement was supported by stronger working capital performance, although part of the development reflects payment patterns and reporting date effects. On a last 12-month basis, the cash conversion reached 65.9%. It is also worth noting that on a standalone Q2 basis, cash conversion rate reached an outstanding 130.1%. This demonstrates that the group generated meaningful cash while continuing to fund higher output inventory requirements and future profitable growth. Overall, the H1 bridge shows that RENK's earnings were converted into significantly stronger free cash flow. Let me briefly cover the refinancing we successfully completed after the reporting date. We replaced our previous new financing structure with a new unsecured syndicated financing package of around EUR 1 billion. The package consists of EUR 450 million term loan, a EUR 225 million revolving credit facility, and EUR 375 million of syndicated guarantee lines with a five-year maturity and 2 one-year extension options.

Speaker #2: On a last 12-month basis, the cash conversion reads 65.9%. It is also worth noting that, on a standalone Q2 basis, cash conversion rate reached an outstanding 130.1%.

Speaker #2: This demonstrates that the group generated meaningful cash while continuing to fund higher output, inventory requirements, and future profitable growth. Overall, the first-half bridge shows that RENK's earnings were converted into significantly stronger free cash flows.

Speaker #2: Let me briefly cover the refinancing we successfully completed after the reporting date. We replaced our previous year's financing structure with a new unsecured syndicated financing package of around €1 billion.

Speaker #2: The package consists of €450 million in term loans, a €225 million revolving credit facility, and €375 million of syndicated guarantee lines, with a five-year maturity and two one-year extension options.

Speaker #2: Additional bilateral guarantee lines of €80 million were also agreed. The refinancing was strongly supported by our international banking consortium, with commitments clearly exceeding the required volume.

Anja Mänz-Siebje: Additional bilateral guarantee lines of EUR 80 million were also agreed. The refinancing was strongly supported by our international banking consortium, with commitments clearly exceeding the required volume. We see this as a strong sign of confidence in RENK's strategic positioning, business development, and future growth path. Economically, the new structure comes with significantly improved credit margins and is expected to reduce annual financing costs by around EUR 7 million. This compares with one-off costs of around EUR 2.5 million for the new financing and around EUR 1 million for the unwinding of existing interest rate hedges. Equally important, the new financing is unsecured. The previous collateral package and restrictive conditions for raising additional financing have been removed. This gives us materially more flexibility for future profitable growth steps, investments, and potential acquisitions.

Speaker #2: We see this as a strong sign of confidence in RENK's strategic positioning, business development, and future growth path. Economically, the new structure comes with significantly improved credit margins and is expected to reduce annual financing costs by around €7 million.

Speaker #2: This compares with one-off costs of around €2.5 million for the new financing and around €1 million for the unwinding of existing interest rate hedges.

Speaker #2: Equally important, the new financing is unsecured. The previous collateral package and restrictive conditions for raising additional financing have been removed. This gives us materially more flexibility for future profitable growth steps, investments, and potential acquisitions.

Speaker #2: In summary, thanks to the trust our banking partners have placed in RENK, we prolonged our robust capital structure, lowered financing costs, and gained more strategic flexibility.

Anja Mänz-Siebje: In summary, thanks to the trust of our banking partners placed in RENK, we prolonged our robust capital structure, lowered financing costs, and gained more strategic flexibility. Said that, I would like to hand back to Alexander, who will proceed with our outlook.

Speaker #2: Having said that, I would like to hand back to Alexander, who will proceed with our outlook.

Speaker #1: Yeah, thank you, Anja. Ladies and gentlemen, let me now come back with a few concluding comments from my side. Moving straight to slide 20.

Alexander Sagel: Yeah. Thank you, Anja. Ladies and gentlemen, let me now come back with a few concluding comments from my side and moving straight to slide 20. Starting first with our guidance for 2026. To make it short and crisp, we confirm our 2026 guidance with revenues above EUR 1.5 billion and adjusted EBIT between EUR 255 to 285 million, and we are clearly targeting the upper half of the adjusted EBIT range. The main operational levers are unchanged and should be familiar to you from our Q1 call. Full focus on operational execution, performance, and delivery, while in parallel moving straight forward with our capacity expansion. In terms of phasing, we always communicated that 2026 will be very back-end loaded with a stronger H2, and this is still the case. You know it, more than 90% of our planned 2026 revenues is already covered by our fixed order backlog.

Speaker #1: Starting first with our guidance for 2026. To make it short and crisp, we confirm our 2026 guidance with revenues above €1.5 billion and adjusted EBIT between €255 million and €285 million, and we are clearly targeting the upper half of the adjusted EBIT range.

Speaker #1: The main operational levers are unchanged and should be familiar to you from our Q1 call. Full focus on operational execution, performance, and delivery, while in parallel moving straight forward with our capacity expansion.

Speaker #1: In terms of phasing, we have always communicated that 2026 will be very back-end loaded, with a stronger H2, and this is still the case. As you know, more than 90% of our planned 2026 revenues is already covered by our fixed order backlog.

Speaker #1: Therefore, let me continue now with a quick view of our order intake situation for 2026, moving to the next page. Regarding order intake, we are looking at a very attractive pipeline for the rest of the year.

Alexander Sagel: Therefore, let me continue now with a quick view on our order intake situation for 2026 and moving to the next page. Regarding order intake, we are looking at a very attractive pipeline for the rest of the year. After roughly EUR 1.2 billion during H1 2026, we are on track towards our full year target of To secure approximately EUR 2 billion of order intake in 2026. The H2 pipeline is geographically diversified and very tangible. On the naval side, we do expect further frigates, destroyers during Q3 and Q4, while for our land business, we do see more significant orders for various armored platforms. You find the selection on the right-hand side of this page, and if you want, we can go through this in the discussion afterwards.

Speaker #1: After roughly €1.2 billion during H1 2026, we are on track towards our full-year target to secure approximately €2 billion of order intake in 2026.

Speaker #1: The H2 pipeline is geographically diversified and very tangible. On the naval side, we do expect further frigates and destroyers during Q3 and Q4, while for our land business, we do see more significant orders for various armored platforms.

Speaker #1: You find a selection on the right-hand side of this page, and if you want, we can go through this in the discussion afterwards. Regarding Q3, and driven by the timing of the specific projects, we do expect order intake on a lower level compared to Q1 and Q2, and also lower than expected for Q4, thus moving us in a range between €300 million to €400 million.

Alexander Sagel: Regarding Q3, driven by the timing of the specific projects, we do expect order intake on a lower level compared to Q1 and Q2, and also lower than expected for Q4, thus moving us in a range between EUR 300 to 400 million. Please allow me a few words regarding our operations, and follow me to the next page 22. To sum it up, we are absolutely focused on executing our capacity ramp-up plan in Germany for land transmission, especially Q2 and Q3 2026 are marking very important milestones on our way to almost triple our capacity towards 2030. Just to give you some quick impressions, and starting with our lead plant in Augsburg, where new, fully automated, and to be honest, quite massive CNC machining centers are getting installed and starting to run in three shifts, five days a week.

Speaker #1: Please allow me a few words regarding our operations and follow me to the next page, page 22. To sum it up, we are absolutely focused on executing our capacity ramp-up plan in Germany for land transmission, and especially Q2 and Q3 '26 are marking very important milestones on our way to almost triple our capacity towards 2030.

Speaker #1: Just to give you some quick impressions, and starting with our lead plant in Augsburg, where new, fully automated and, to be honest, quite massive CNC machining centers are getting installed and starting to run—three shifts, five days a week.

Speaker #1: Regarding our modular assembly line concept, we are currently in the process of further rolling out this very successful approach from our final assembly shop into the sub-assembly and spare parts operations, followed by the MRO operations during Q4 2026 and in the beginning of Q1 2027.

Alexander Sagel: Regarding our modular assembly line concept, we are currently in the process to further roll out this very successful approach from our final assembly shop into the sub-assembly and spare parts operations, followed by the MRO operations during Q4 2026 and in the beginning of Q1 2027. Also very important and related to David Brown Defence. We started machining of the first Type 26 frigate main gear here in Augsburg in order to prepare for future operational synergies regarding Type 26 deliveries and overall CapEx spendings. Leaving now Augsburg and going to Rheine, where we are step-by-step converting a former 100% industrial site into a defense operation by, for example, the installation of further CNC machining centers. Not new, but maybe important to mention again, we are executing our capacity expansion for converting order backlog into future profitable growth in a very disciplined way with limited CapEx needs.

Speaker #1: Also, very important and related to David Brown Defense, we started machining the first Type 26 free gate main gear here in Augsburg in order to prepare for future operational synergies regarding Type 26 deliveries and overall capex spending.

Speaker #1: We are now leaving Augsburg and heading to Rainer, where we are step-by-step converting a former 100% industrial site into a defense operation by, for example, the installation of additional CNC machining centers.

Speaker #1: Not new, but maybe important to mention again, we are executing our capacity expansion for converting order backlog into future profitable growth in a very disciplined way, with limited CapEx needs.

Speaker #1: 3% on average until 2030, and below 5% for 2026. Let's move to slide 23 and share some quick words on David Brown Defence, or in short, DBD.

Alexander Sagel: 3% on average until 2030 and below 5% for 2026. Let's move to slide 23 and some quick words on David Brown Defence or in short, DBD. As already said in the beginning of this call, the acquisition of DBD is the consequent execution of our M&A strategy. With transmissions for large surface combatants and submarines, including the Type 26 program, DBD is providing us with a unique market access to the so-called Five Eyes nations, including US, UK, Canada, and Australia. RENK will be the only Navy transmission system supplier serving all those markets, thus expanding our global leadership in the naval domain. Regarding the domain land, David Brown contributes with transmission systems and power pack integrations for tracked and wheeled armored vehicles, like the Challenger 2, Challenger 3, or the Boxer MIV.

Speaker #1: As you already said at the beginning of this call, the acquisition of DBD is the consequent execution of our M&A strategy. With transmissions for large surface combatants and submarines, including the Type 26 program, DBD is providing us with unique market access to the so-called Five Eyes nations, including the US, UK, Canada, and Australia.

Speaker #1: RENK will be the only navy transmission system supplier serving all those markets, thus expanding our global leadership in the naval domain. Regarding the land domain, David Brown contributes with transmission systems and power pack integrations for tracked and wheeled armored vehicles.

Speaker #1: Like the Challenger 2, 3, or the Boxer MIV—MIV. While I will not run you through all the numbers on that slide—we did it, by the way, during our call on July 3rd.

Alexander Sagel: While I will not run you through all the numbers on that slide, we did it by the way, during our call on 3 July. Let me emphasize that the preparations for the team I face have already started even before the signing on 3 July. Closing is targeted for Q4 2026. After closing, David Brown Defence will be integrated into the M&I division. Our integration is structured in different phases. First, with a clear focus on improving operations, realizing operation synergies, and safeguarding deliveries, followed by leveraging new growth opportunities from joint market access, supported by new technologies and product segments like unmanned or less crewed surface vessels. Ladies and gentlemen, I know it was long. We are finally close to the end of our today's presentation. Let's move on to slide 24 and very briefly look at the key takeaways of today's call.

Speaker #1: Let me emphasize that the preparations for the PMI phase have already started even before the signing on July 3rd. Closing is targeted for Q4 2026.

Speaker #1: After closing, David Brown will be integrated into the M&I division. Our integration is structured in different phases. First, with a clear focus on improving operations, realizing operational synergies, and safeguarding deliveries, followed by leveraging new growth opportunities from joint market access—supported by new technologies and product segments like unmanned or less crewed surface vessels.

Speaker #1: Ladies and gentlemen, I know it was long. We are finally close to the end of our presentation today, so let's move on to slide 24 and very briefly look at the key takeaways of today's call.

Speaker #1: If I, Alexander Sagel, had to summarize H1 in one sentence: stellar order intake from strong demand for land and sea platforms, solid cash conversion, clear margin improvements, and a confirmation of our full-year 2026 guidance with a clear, I repeat, and unchanged target to land in the upper half of the adjusted EBIT range.

Alexander Sagel: If I, Alexander Sagel, had to summarize H1 in one sentence, stellar order intake from strong demand for land and sea platforms, solid cash conversion, clear margin improvements, and a confirmation of our full year 2026 guidance with a clear, I repeat it, and unchanged target to land in the upper half of the adjusted EBIT range. Very last but not least, a quick view on our financial calendar. Our capital market activities, like always, continue to be very busy, and we are very much looking forward to meeting many of you in the coming weeks and months at roadshows, conferences, and of course, tons of bilaterals. Some of the key datas are shown on this slide. Again, from all of us, thank you very much for your attention. We are now looking forward to your questions.

Speaker #1: Last but not least, a quick look at our financial calendar. Our capital market activities, as always, continue to be very busy, and we are very much looking forward to meeting many of you in the coming weeks and months.

Speaker #1: At roadshows, conferences, and of course, during many bilaterals. Some of the key data are shown on this slide. Again, from all of us, thank you very much for your attention.

Speaker #1: We are now looking forward to your questions.

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Speaker #3: Yes, good morning. Thank you for taking my question. So, I'll have two. The first one is on the BMS assumption for margin in H2, because obviously you had pretty good momentum in H1 without the benefit of the sales to Israel, or not much.

Chloé Lemarié: Yes, good morning. Thank you for taking my question. I'll have two. The first one is on VMS assumption for margin in H2, because obviously you had a pretty good momentum in H1 without the benefit of the sales to Israel or not much. Any thought on where the margin could get to in H2 would be great. The second one is on the 2027 draft budget for Germany. There's a pretty significant drop in the procurement authorization on armored vehicles. I just wanted to see what your thoughts were there in terms of the demand and how it can be impacted, for instance, by the Arminius contract and the timing of the signing there. Thank you.

Speaker #3: So any thoughts on where the margin could get to in H2 would be great. The second one is on the '27 draft budget for Germany.

Speaker #3: There's a pretty significant drop in the procurement utilization on armored vehicles, so I just wanted to see what your thoughts were there in terms of the demand and how it can be impacted, for instance, by Armenia's contract and the timing of the signing there.

Speaker #3: Thank you.

Speaker #1: Chloe, this is many questions. In fact, you are doing the trick because you put 10 questions in one question, to be honest. But happy to answer.

Alexander Sagel: Chloe. Well, these are many questions. In fact, you are doing a trick because you put 10 questions in one question, to be honest. Happy to answer. I will try my very best. If not, please ask again if I missed something. I'm getting older. First on the VMS margin, I will not comment on the H2 because H2 is H1 plus H2. I will just comment on the full year expectation. The full year expectation on VMS is clearly well above the 21%. This is the first answer, I hope. Regarding Germany procurement authorization budget increase, I think it's very important to overall armored land platforms, and this is independent if you look on procurement authorizations or if you look on the EP 14 development are key and are vital, full stop.

Speaker #1: I will try my very best. If not, please ask again if I missed something. I'm getting older. First, on the BMS margin—I will not comment on the H2 because H2 is H1 plus H2.

Speaker #1: I will just comment on the full-year expectation. The full-year expectation on BMS is clearly well above the 21%. This is the first answer, I hope.

Speaker #1: Regarding Germany procurement authorizations, budgets increase. I think it's very important to overall armored land platforms, and this is independent if you look on procurement authorizations or if you look on the EP14 development – are key and are vital. Full stop.

Speaker #1: The procurement authorizations, for example, they are currently at $44 billion up to the end of next decade. They were reduced, but again, get it.

Alexander Sagel: The procurement authorizations, for example, are currently at EUR 44 billion up to the end of next decade. They were reduced, but again, get it, I think this is really important. There is so much money considered in the EP 14 in the next two or three years in the EP 14 in the normal German national budget, and it's the same for the procurement authorization. I think at least according to our RENK Group scenario and capacity expansion scenario, we have not expected and seen any surprises, to be honest. You just asked about the Boxer program. Well, the Boxer program, I think we have it still in our order intake. We choose a little bit the amount, but to be honest, I do not believe that this order will come this year to RENK. Why?

Speaker #1: I think this is really important. There is so much money considered in the EP14, in the next two or three years in the EP14, in the normal German national budget, and it's the same for the procurement authorizations.

Speaker #1: I think, at least according to our RENK growth scenario and capacity expansion scenario, we have not expected or seen any surprises, to be honest.

Speaker #1: You just asked about the Boxer program. Well, the Boxer program—I think we still have it in our order intake. We reduced the amount a little bit, but to be honest, I do not believe that this order will come this year to RENK.

Speaker #1: Why? I think the parliamentary approval of the Boxer program, Armenia’s, will take place maybe in December. But happily, we even have this, or we even have this capability, to compensate for this potential shift of the Boxer order intake from '26 into '27 by other international customers.

Alexander Sagel: I think the parliamentary approval of the Boxer program, Arminius, will take place maybe in December. Happily, we even have this, or we even have this capability to compensate this potential shift of the Boxer order intake from 2026 into 2027 by other international customers. Underlining our approx EUR 2 million target on the order intake side. Overall, and I think I said it in the beginning, what you have seen on the Ankara NATO summit, the capabilities who were discussed and basically confirmed on what was decided in Denmark, there is no surprise. It was always said there needs to be a lot of air defense. There needs to be a lot of long-range precision strikes. There will be a lot in terms of ISR projects running on. Of course, space is key.

Speaker #1: So underlining our approx 2 million target on the order intake side. Overall, and I think I said it in the beginning, what you have seen on the Ankara on the Ankara NATO summit, the capabilities who were discussed and basically confirmed on what was decided in Den Haag, there is no surprise.

Speaker #1: It was always said there needs to be a lot of air defense. There needs to be a lot of long-range precision strikes. There will be a lot—and tons—of ISR projects running on.

Speaker #1: And of course, space is key. And there will be a lot of drones because the key is, besides all these air defense and long-range missiles, conventional mass is key in order to increase future combat readiness of NATO.

Alexander Sagel: There will be a lot of drones because the key is, besides all these air defense and long-range missiles, conventional mass is key in order to increase future combat readiness of NATO. This includes armored land platforms, wheeled and tracked, manned, unmanned, and we're looking on a perspective beyond 2030. Chloe, I don't know if I managed everything, but feel free to ask.

Speaker #1: And this includes armored land platforms—wheeled and tracked, manned and unmanned. And we're looking at a perspective beyond 2030. So, Chloe, I don't know if I managed everything, but feel free to ask.

Speaker #3: No, absolutely. Sorry for the tricky question, but that was great. Thank you.

Chloé Lemarié: No, absolutely. Sorry for the three questions, but that was great. Thank you.

Speaker #1: You're welcome.

Alexander Sagel: You are welcome.

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Speaker #4: Hi, good morning. Hi, Anja. Hi, Alex. Thanks for taking my questions. I hope you can hear me well and that you are well. I have two follow-ups to Chloe's questions.

Sebastian Growe: Hi, good morning. Hi, Anja. Hi, Alex. Thanks for taking my questions. I hope you can hear me well and that you are well. I have two follow-ups to Chloé's questions. I hope we can count them as half a question or so, but I have one more. The first one is on the orders part on Arminius. Sorry for bothering this point again there. Well, hitting it again. I was wondering whether there has been any change in the discussions with the customer for the number of vehicles under the firm order tranche. I think you had put out prior 1,800 units. On the VMS margin, the segment is running 200 basis points above prior year, and that without Israel, really. The question is: Is there anything to highlight from a mix perspective, i.e., transmissions as opposed to suspensions? Anything that might not be sustainable?

Speaker #4: I hope we can count them as half a question or so, so that I have one more. The first one is on the orders part.

Speaker #4: On Armenia—sorry for bringing this up again or labeling it again. I was wondering whether there has been any change in the discussions with the customer regarding the number of vehicles under the firm order tranche.

Speaker #4: I think you had put out prior 1,800 units. And on the BMS margin, the segment is running 200 basis points above prior year, and that without Israel really.

Speaker #4: So, the question is: Is there anything to highlight from a mixed perspective, i.e., transmissions as opposed to suspensions? Anything that might not be sustainable?

Speaker #4: And can you also please remind us where you stand with regard to adding another shift in Augsburg? So these were the half questions. We'll start there and then I have one other on slide bearings, if I may.

Sebastian Growe: Can you also please remind us where you stand with regard to adding another shift in Augsburg? These were the half questions. We start them and have one other on Schleifenfels, if I may.

Speaker #1: Sebastian, again unfair. But anyway, I love to answer your questions. We should stop this rule of the two questions, by the way, because, anyway, everyone is putting everything inside.

Alexander Sagel: Sebastian, again, unfair, anyway, I love to answer your questions. We should stop this rule of the two questions right away, because anyway, everyone is putting everything inside. Well, I think there is a vital discussion about the timing of the fixed orders for the Arminius project. There is a discussion, ongoing discussion, and we had it before, Sebastian. Regarding the total quantities who will be covered in the Arminius contract, while on the other side, additional elements or volumes of the Arminius project might be procured and contracted under existing frame contracts, like, for example, the Schakal or the Skyranger. I think at the very end, the total number from my perspective, if we would add the demand for the Boxer during the first phase now up to 2030, has not significantly changed. I'm always talking about 1,700, 1,800.

Speaker #1: But on the order intake for Armenia, well, I think there is an important discussion about the timing of the fixed orders for the Armenia project.

Speaker #1: There is an ongoing discussion, and we had it before. Sebastian, regarding the total quantities that will be covered in Armenia's contract, while on the other side, additional elements or volumes of the Armenia project might be procured and contracted under existing framework contracts, like, for example, the Shakal or the Sky Ranger.

Speaker #1: I think at the very end, the total number from my perspective, if we add the demand for the Boxer during the first phase now up to 2030, has not significantly changed.

Speaker #1: And I'm always talking about 1,700, 1,800. The big question is, to be honest, how much of the 1,700 or 1,800 will go into a fixed Armenia contract?

Alexander Sagel: The big question is, to be honest, how much of the 1,700, 1,800 will go into a fixed Arminius contract? How many of them will be awarded and contracted through existing frame contracts from other platforms? Looking on RENK, as I just said, we have still a certain order intake assumed for 2026, as you have seen this before on our order intake chart, but we are not relaxed but confident that we can compensate this through other international programs. Regarding the VMS margin, as I just answered for Chloé, we see above the 21%. I think the H1 was quite successful, and this is coming from one part from Augsburg, from the really good performing modular production line. I think the second part is also that we had good Q2 order intakes in regards to aftermarket business.

Speaker #1: And how many of them will be awarded and contracted through existing framework contracts from other platforms? Looking at RENK, as I just said, we still have a certain order intake assumed for 2026.

Speaker #1: And as you have seen this before on our order intake chart, we are not relaxed, but confident that we can compensate for this through other international programs.

Speaker #1: Regarding the BMS margin, as I just answered for Chloe, if we see above 21%, I think the first half year was quite successful.

Speaker #1: And this is coming from one part from Augsburg, from the really good performing modular production line. I think the second part is also that we had good Q2 order intakes in regards to the aftermarket business.

Speaker #1: And I think, overall, the performance of the rest of the BMS group was as expected. So I think these are the main contributors for our half-year one contribution.

Alexander Sagel: I think overall the performance of the rest of the VMS group was as expected. I think these are the main contributors for our H1 contribution, of course H2 will be very much back-end loaded on the revenue side. There will be additional impacts on the cost coverage. Let's see, I'm very, very optimistic that we will be above the 21%, this is absolutely anyway our target.

Speaker #1: And, of course, H2 will be very much backend-loaded on the revenue side, so there will be additional impacts on the cost coverage. Let's see.

Speaker #1: But I am very, very optimistic that we will be above the 21%. And this is absolutely, in any case, our target.

Sebastian Growe: Me too. The question was more like, this business seems to be doing 22 and higher eventually. That is basically where I am coming from. To rather think about

Speaker #4: Me too. The question was more like, this business seems to be doing 22 and higher eventually. And that is basically where I'm coming from.

Speaker #4: So to rather think about.

Speaker #1: Yeah. I'm not.

Alexander Sagel: Yeah

Sebastian Growe: how this might trend then also in the

Speaker #4: This is my trend, and also in the...

Speaker #1: I'm not including this, Sebastian. I'm not excluding this option—to put it this way.

Alexander Sagel: I am not excluding this, Sebastian. I am not excluding this option. To put it in this way.

Speaker #4: Okay, sounds good. On the shift question,

Sebastian Growe: Okay. Sounds good. On the shift question, and I let you go.

Speaker #1: What was the shift question? Because I cannot read my handwriting.

Alexander Sagel: What was the shift question? Because I cannot read my handwriting.

Speaker #4: No worries. The question was simply: I think you're still operating on one shift only.

Sebastian Growe: No worries. The question was simply, I think you are still operating on one shift only.

Speaker #1: Oh, yeah. The modular production.

Alexander Sagel: Of course. Yeah, on the modular production line.

Speaker #4: Right, right.

Speaker #1: Yeah. Yes, absolutely. We will try the entire we will run the entire year 2026 in a single shift mode, which gives you an idea about the performance increases we have realized.

Sebastian Growe: Right.

Alexander Sagel: Yeah. Yes, absolutely. We will run the entire year 2026 in a single shift mode, which gives you an idea about the performance increases we have realized.

Speaker #4: Okay, sounds encouraging. So I'll go back in the line. Thank you.

Sebastian Growe: Okay. Sounds encouraging. I go back in line. Thank you.

Speaker #1: Oh, okay. Thank you, Sebastian.

Alexander Sagel: Okay. Thank you, Sebastian.

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Speaker #5: Yes, hello. Thank you for taking my questions. The first one is on the Patria tracked UGV. You mentioned in the beginning that there was already an order received.

Sven Sauer: Yes, hello. Thank you for taking my questions. The first one is on the Patria Tracked UGV. You mentioned in the beginning that there was already an order received. I was wondering if you could give some more information on who ordered this, how many units, and when will it be delivered. The second question, sorry, again, is on the order intake for 2026. You mentioned that the Arminius project will likely slip into 2027. My understanding is that the F127 will also slip into 2027. Those are just two of the orders that you list on this slide. To get to the EUR 2 billion, if we would have the Leopard 2 or the Panzerhaubitze also slip into 2027, how confident are you to really reach the EUR 2 billion order intake?

Speaker #5: I was wondering if you could give some more information on who ordered this, how many units, and when it will be delivered? And the second question—sorry again—is on the order intake for 2026.

Speaker #5: You mentioned that the Armenia project will likely slip into 2027. My understanding is that the F127 will also slip into 2027. Those are just two of the orders that you list on this slide.

Speaker #5: To get to the $2 billion, if we would have the Leopard 2 or the Panzerhaubitze also slip into 2027, how confident are you to really reach the $2 billion order intake?

Speaker #1: Stephan, hi. Good question. I will start directly to answer your second question. In our scenarios, and as I just said, I mean, the Armenians are most likely do not expect that we get it.

Alexander Sagel: Sven, hi. Good question. I will start directly to answer your second question. In our scenarios, as I just said, the Arminius, I most likely do not expect that we get it. The F127, I think this is a very complicated, complex contract, which needs to be negotiated, despite maybe a personal view on the question if these kind of massive 12,000 ton destroyers are really needed in the future, but this is a separate thing. We are quite optimistic and positive that we could even compensate these two shifts of the Boxer and the F127. For example, the F127 could be and will be partially compensated from the F128, the four Thyssenkrupp MEKO A-200, and I think also on the land side.

Speaker #1: The F127, I think this is a very complicated, complex contract which needs to be negotiated. Despite, maybe, a personal view on the question of whether these kinds of massive 12,000-ton destroyers are really needed in the future—but this is a separate thing.

Speaker #1: We are quite optimistic and positive that we can even—could even—compensate for these two shifts of the Boxer and the F127. For example, the F127 could be, and will be, partially compensated from the F128, the four Thyssenkrupp MECO A200.

Speaker #1: And I think also on the land side. So, even considering a shift of the Armenia programs and even a most realistic, likely shift of the F127, we do confirm our approximately €2 billion order intake target.

Alexander Sagel: Even in considering a shift of the Arminius programs and even a most realistic likely shift of the F127, we do confirm our approximately EUR 2 billion order intake target. The first question on the tracks side. We are very positive the first customer is not unexpected, Finland, and we are in the range of a high double-digit number of units. It is a kind of pre-series order. Deliveries will start at the end of Q2 2027. By the way, the number of potential customers and the interest, they are stockpiling in the meantime. We also talk about opportunities, and for this reason, we are very focused to get and to deliver the very first HSWL 076 transmission for the tracks as soon as possible because there is strong interest from Ukraine, by the way.

Speaker #1: And the second and the first question, sorry. The first question on the track side—a very positive. The first customer is not unexpected: Finland.

Speaker #1: And we are in the range of a high double-digit number of units. It's a kind of pre-series order. Deliveries will start at the end of Q2 2027.

Speaker #1: By the way, the number of potential customers and the interest are stockpiling in the meantime. We also talk about opportunities. And for this reason, we are very focused to get and to deliver the very first HSWL 076 transmission for the tracks as soon as possible, because there is strong interest from Ukraine, by the way.

Speaker #5: All right, that's great to hear. Thank you.

Sven Sauer: All right. That is great to hear. Thank you.

Speaker #1: You're welcome.

Alexander Sagel: You are welcome.

Speaker #2: Thank you. We're going back to Christoph Menard with Deutsche Bank. Please unmute your line by pressing star six.

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Speaker #4: Yes. Good morning. Can you hear me?

Christophe Menard: Yes. Good morning. Can you hear me?

Speaker #1: Perfect.

Alexander Sagel: Perfect. Très bien.

Speaker #4: Okay. Perfect. No, it's... I had an issue earlier. Two questions on my side. I may have missed it, but is there any update on the Abrams repowering opportunity?

Christophe Menard: Okay, perfect. No, I had an issue earlier. Two questions on my side. I may have missed it, but is there any update on the Abrams repowering opportunity? I was thinking we could have news in recent weeks. On the service strategy or the aftermarket strategy, I understand that you've not come to a conclusion yet in your assessment. When could we expect a view, and on what occasion could you do this? Will you need to host a specific CMD or is it through an earnings release? Thank you.

Speaker #4: I was thinking we could have news in recent weeks. And on the service strategy or the aftermarket strategy, I understand that it's not been—I mean, you've not come to a conclusion yet in your assessment, but when could we expect a view, and on what occasion could you do this?

Speaker #4: Will you need to host a specific CMD, or is it through an earnings release? Thank you.

Speaker #1: Christoph, bonjour. I will answer where I can answer, and I will not answer where I cannot answer because it’s simply driven by the customer.

Alexander Sagel: Christophe, bonjour. I will answer where I can answer, and I will not answer where I cannot answer because it's simply driven by the customer. I'll start directly with the repowering of the M1A2. I would put it in the following words. We have prepared quite some R&D budget in order to start development of a very competitive power pack, which could be applied in the M1A2 until a timeframe to going into series production 2028. I cannot tell you more because I cannot, simply. As you could hear, maybe we are very positive, super positive on this. Don't quote me. Regarding the aftermarket 2035 strategy, to be honest, we are almost 85, 90% done.

Speaker #1: So I'll start directly with the repowering of the M1A2. I would put it in the following words: We have prepared quite some R&D budget in order to start development of a very competitive power pack, which could be applied in the M1A2 until a timeframe going into serious production in 2028.

Speaker #1: I cannot tell you more, because I cannot, simply. But, as you could hear it maybe, we are very positive—super positive—on this. But don't quote me.

Speaker #1: Regarding the aftermarket 2035 strategy, to be honest, we are almost 85, 90 percent done. And the numbers I indicated in my introduction, so to have the 1 billion somewhere at 2030, so stabilizing our today's aftermarket share, despite increasing significantly increasing new business and the potential to grow on an annual revenue level of up to 2 billion if you look from 10 years from now is these numbers, to be honest, are the extract of our aftermarket strategy.

Alexander Sagel: The numbers I indicated in my introduction, so to have the EUR 1 billion somewhere at 2030, so stabilizing our today's aftermarket share despite significantly increasing new business and the potential to grow on an annual revenue level of up to EUR 2 billion, if you look from 10 years from now, is these numbers, to be honest, are the extract of our aftermarket strategy. There's of course, there are many more details behind, and also if you talk about the main strategic actions and measures, how to realize it. To be honest, we do not have yet, and I will talk to my communication boss, defined how to roll out this really in order to inform you on. We could do, and I'm just thinking in the air, maybe a separate call with our key analysts to give a 30-minute introduction into the results of the aftermarket strategy.

Speaker #1: But of course, there are many, many more details behind this. And also, if you talk about the main strategic actions and measures—how to realize it.

Speaker #1: And to be honest, we do not have yet—and I will talk to my communication boss—defined how to roll this out really, in order to inform you all.

Speaker #1: We could do—and I'm just thinking out loud here—maybe a separate call with our key analysts to give a 30-minute introduction to the results of the aftermarket strategy.

Speaker #1: To be honest, I don't have an answer on this, but we will find an answer to this.

Alexander Sagel: To be honest, I don't have an answer on this, we will find an answer on this.

Speaker #4: Thank you very much.

Christophe Menard: Thank you very much.

Speaker #1: You're welcome, Christoph.

Alexander Sagel: You're welcome, Christophe.

Speaker #2: The next question comes from George McWhirter with Berenberg. Please press star six to unmute your line and ask your question.

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Speaker #5: Good morning. Thank you very much for the questions. Two points as well from my side. Firstly, on the German budget again—has there been any change in your expectation on the Leopard 2 or Puma orders, linked to the budget outlook in the next 10 or so years?

George McWhirter: Good morning. Thank you very much for the questions. Two please as well from my side. Firstly, on the German budget again. Has there been any change in your expectation on the Leopard 2 or Puma orders linked to the budget outlook in the next 10 or so years? The next question is on the M&I business. You mentioned delivery delays have been catched up in Q2 versus Q1, there's still some to go. How much is there left to go on the delivery delay catch-up? Thank you.

Speaker #5: And the next question is on the M&I business. You mentioned delivery delays have been caught up in Q2 versus Q1, but there's still some to go.

Speaker #5: So, how much is there left to go on the delivery delay catch-up? Thank you.

Speaker #1: Hi, George. Fair questions. Regarding the German budget, and specifically looking at the Leopard and the main battle tanks, well, we have in our forecast an additional 75 Leopard tanks for and from Germany.

Alexander Sagel: Hi, George. Fair questions. Regarding the German budget and specifically looking on the Leopard and the main battle tanks. Well, we have in our forecast additional 75 Leopard tanks from Germany. I'm not talking about the international one, but just staying on Germany. We have another batch of 75, but that's it. That's it at least until the beginning of the 2030s, as we always communicated in this two-phase approach from the German procurement strategy. For the second phase, there is this opportunity for the next-gen main battle tank, former called Brückenlösung, bridge solution, where we are, by the way, developing the powertrain. We just started, by the way, today at 8:00 AM, the first engine plus the new Leopard upgraded transmission for this bridge solution. We are moving forward in the development. Beyond 2030 I could expect another 100 up to 200 for Germany.

Speaker #1: I'm not talking about the international one, but just staying on Germany, we have another batch of 75. But that's it. And that's it. I mean, at least until the beginning of the 2030s, as we always communicated in these two-phase approach from the German procurement strategy.

Speaker #1: For the second phase, there is this opportunity for the next-gen main battle tank, formerly called Brückenlösung, or bridge solution. We are, by the way, developing the powertrain.

Speaker #1: We just started, by the way, today at 8 o'clock—the first engine plus the new Leopard-upgraded transmission for this bridge solution. So we are moving forward in the development.

Speaker #1: And then beyond 2030, I could expect another 100 up to 200 for Germany. How many could be ordered from international customers? We have no scenario, but we are just focusing on Germany.

Alexander Sagel: How many could be ordered from international customers? We have a scenario, but we are just focusing on Germany. What should not be underestimated are the number of family vehicles, like I mean family vehicles based on the Leopard 2 chassis. From a RENK perspective, we don't care if we supply to an MBT or if we supply to a family vehicle, it's almost the same transmission or the new one anyway. Here we do expect quite some numbers in the range between three to 500, in the next 5 to 6 years. We do expect, in the beginning of next year, quite some decent orders coming from these family vehicles. This was the first question. Regarding M&A catch-up, as you know, we had about, I think it was approximately in the EUR 10 million range. We had customer-induced delays.

Speaker #1: What should not be underestimated are the number of family vehicles. Like recovery, I mean family vehicles based on the Leopard 2 chassis. From a RENK perspective, we don't care if we supply to an MBT or if we supply to a family vehicle.

Speaker #1: It's always the same transmission or the new one anyway. And here, we do expect quite some numbers in the range between 300 to 500 in the next 5 to 6 years.

Speaker #1: And we do expect, in the beginning of next year, quite some decent orders coming from these family vehicles. Regarding—so this was the first question.

Speaker #1: Regarding M&I catch-up, I mean, as you know, we had about—I think it was approximately in the €10 million range—we had customer-induced delays. You know the story about these guys, and what was the reason.

Alexander Sagel: You know the story about these guys and what was the reason. We could partially recover them during Q2, but partially will go anyway into Q3 and Q4 because this simply depends on the prioritization of what the customer is doing. If he's taking out a transmission and executing this, or if he's not executing the transmission because he had shifted his own building plan for whatever reasons. From this approximately EUR 10 million, I would say 50% and 60%, we did recover during Q2, and the rest will come in H2.

Speaker #1: We could partially recover them during Q2, but partially will go anyway into Q3 and Q4 because this simply depends on the prioritization the customer is doing.

Speaker #1: So if he's taking out the transmission and executing this, or if he's not executing the transmission because he had shifted his own building plan for whatever reasons.

Speaker #1: So, from this approximately 10 million, I would say 50–60 percent we did recover during Q2, and the rest will come in the second half.

Speaker #5: That's really helpful. Thank you. Sorry—just to get back to the first question. Just to get back to the first question, if I could.

George McWhirter: That's really helpful. Thank you. Sorry.

Alexander Sagel: No problem.

George McWhirter: Just to get back on the first question, if I could.

Speaker #5: On the Puma, has there been any change in the Puma quantities that you expect?

Alexander Sagel: Yeah.

George McWhirter: On the Puma, has there been any change in the Puma quantities that you expect?

Speaker #1: No. I mean, I think for the we have I mean, the industry has now the charge to produce 200 plus Pumas including partial Pumas for driver lessons, whatever Pumas.

Alexander Sagel: No. I think for the next The industry has now the charge to produce 200 plus Pumas, including partial Pumas for driver-less and whatever Pumas, as soon as possible. We as I'm always saying from our production capacity, we got the order intake for these 200 plus in Q1 2026. We could start shipment if required at the end of this year, but we have it in our business plan somewhere starting 2027, 2028 because our customers simply need time to build up their capacity, and they are doing this. I could imagine a third batch on this Puma, but this third batch, I do not see a decision towards the next 24 months, to be honest.

Speaker #1: As soon as possible. And we, as I’m always saying, from our production capacity, we got the order intake for these 200-plus in Q1 2026.

Speaker #1: We could start shipment, if required, at the end of this year. But we have it in our business plan somewhere starting in '27, '28, because our customer simply needs time to build up their capacity, and they are doing this.

Speaker #1: I could imagine a third batch on this Puma, but this third batch—I do not see a decision towards that in the next 24 months, to be honest.

Speaker #5: It's really helpful. Thank you.

George McWhirter: It's pretty helpful. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Thank you.

Speaker #1: Thank you very much.

Operator 2: Thank you.

Operator: Thank you.

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Alexander Sagel: Thank you very much.

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Speaker #6: Hi, Alexander, and I hope you're both well. I have to confess, George basically asked the question I was going to ask. Can I just maybe ask it in a slightly different way?

David Perry: Hi, Alexander and Anja. I hope you're both well. I have to confess, George basically asked the question I was going to ask. Can I just maybe ask it in a slightly different way, maybe then a bit more philosophically. I think, you're still comfortable with your medium-term guidance through to 2030. I just wonder, it's been quite an eventful year. A lot of things have happened and a lot of new technologies and stuff, and guidance and government plans are always adjusted because that's the world. In terms of the EUR 3 billion of sales, do you see the composition maybe slightly differently to how you saw it 12 months ago, or broadly the same? Do you think there's going to be more armored in there, or do you think there's slightly difference in some of the platform numbers or some of the international sales versus German?

Speaker #6: Maybe, then, a bit more philosophically. I think you're still comfortable with your medium-term guidance through to 2030. I just wonder, as it's been quite an eventful year,

Speaker #6: A lot of things have happened, and a lot of new technologies and developments have emerged. Guidance and government plans are always adjusted, because that's the world.

Speaker #6: In terms of the $3 billion of sales, do you see the composition maybe slightly differently to how you saw it 12 months ago, or broadly the same?

Speaker #6: Do you think it's going to be more unmanned in there, or do you think there's a slight difference in some of the platform numbers or some of the international sales versus German?

Speaker #6: Just wondered if you want to speak to that, if you can. Thanks.

David Perry: Just wondered if you want to speak to that, if you can. Thanks.

Speaker #1: Yeah, David, hi. Hope you're doing well also. Regarding our medium-term target, I would like to start first if you talk about the composition. If we look at what we have shown today on our total order backlog...

Alexander Sagel: Yeah, David. Hi, hope you're doing also well. Regarding our medium-term target, I would like to start first, if you talk about the composition. If we look on what we have shown today on our total order backlog, this gives an indication. Our composition, the relevance of Germany is relevant, but it has a limited relevance in the range of 20% to 24%. What we see, we see a strong international business, this international business is, to be honest, driving us in the next four to five years. If you look back on our discussions, what we had during the last year, especially for the H1 call, I think we showed a chart about our estimates on potential order intakes coming from the German programs. If you look until 2035.

Speaker #1: And this gives an indication. Our composition—our, I mean, the relevance of Germany. Germany is relevant, but it has a limited relevance in the range of 20 to 24 percent.

Speaker #1: So what we see—we see a strong international business. And this international business is, to be honest, driving us in the next four to five years.

Speaker #1: If you look back on our discussions over the last year, especially during the H1 call, I think we showed a chart about our estimates of potential order intakes coming from the German programs.

Speaker #1: If you look until '23, it's 35. And I think we had a lot of discussions because we were considered—we had OE potential between one or two billion.

Alexander Sagel: I think we had a lot of discussions because we were considered we are conservative. We had OE potential between one or two billion, nothing more. If you asking me, how do I feel about realizing our 2030 targets, giving the discussions in Germany and new tech versus old tech, where I have a absolute clear opinion, I think you guys know all this. I do not see that this target is in, from any perspective, under danger. We have a strong international business and a really international business, including Asia-Pacific. For all the domains, on the land domain, on the sea domain, Germany will be an important contributor to our midterm target, but it will not be the finally decisive move if we can realize it or if we cannot realize it.

Speaker #1: Nothing more. If you're asking me how I feel about realizing our 2030 targets, and given the discussions in Germany and new tech versus old tech—where I have a clear, absolutely clear opinion, and I think you guys know all this—I do not see that this target is, from any perspective, under danger.

Speaker #1: We have a strong international business and a really international business, including Asia-Pacific, for all the domains: on the land domain and on the sea domain.

Speaker #1: Germany will be an important contributor to our midterm target, but it will not be the final decisive move whether we can realize it or not.

Speaker #1: And in 2030, if you look at the composition, I’m very sure that 99 percent of our land business will still be manned. I mean, the activity is what we have presented very successfully and also surprisingly from my point of view.

Alexander Sagel: In 2030, if you look about the composition, I'm very sure that 99% of our land business will be still manned. I mean, the activities, what we have presented very successfully, and also surprisingly from my point of view, on the Eurosatory, the heavy tracked UGV, this is something what will take time. We will, as communicated 12 months from the Eurosatory, we will have a driving prototype who is driving and shooting remote controlled and autonomy. We are here moving forward with Patria in a very close and combined approach. Nevertheless, I do not expect that we will see a major share of our 2030 business coming from unmanned. Beyond 2030, if you look, for example, towards 2035, the light is different. I'm 100% sure we will see a significant portion of our conventional platforms being unmanned.

Speaker #1: On the Eurosatori, the heavy truck UGV—this is something that will take time. We will, as communicated, in 12 months from the Eurosatori, have a driving prototype that is both driving and shooting.

Speaker #1: Remote controlled and autonomy. We are here moving forward with Patria in a very close and combined approach. But nevertheless, I do not expect that we will see a major share of our 2030 business coming from unmanned.

Speaker #1: Beyond 2030, if you look, for example, towards 2035, the light is different. I'm 100 percent sure we will see a significant portion of our conventional platforms being unmanned.

Speaker #1: And by the way, independent of whether we're doing this with Patria or with any other prime, because our key competence is providing the key asset for these kinds of tracked vehicles in this weight range for autonomy and unmanned capabilities.

Alexander Sagel: By the way, independent if we're doing this with Patria or if we're doing this with any other prime, because our key competence is providing the key asset for these kind of tracked vehicles in this weight range for autonomy and unmanned capabilities, our digitalized transmission. If we talk about 2035, to be honest, we communicated, I think to the 2025 call, we are working not only on defining our aftermarket strategy. I also communicated we are working very hard to develop our picture of our business towards 2035. We are doing this, and we are hopefully very soon ready to share this with you guys, because in 2035, as I said, we will have more unmanned, but we also will have, as I indicated in my introduction for aftermarket, a significant amount of more aftermarket in our business.

Speaker #1: Our digitalized transmission—if you talk about 2035—and to be honest, we communicated, I think, during the H1 to the year 2025 call, we are working not only on defining our aftermarket strategy.

Speaker #1: I also communicated we are working very hard to develop our picture of our business toward 2035. We are doing this, and we are hopefully very soon ready to share this with you guys, because in 2035, as I said, we will have more unmanned.

Speaker #1: But we also will have, as I indicated in my introduction for aftermarket, a significant amount more aftermarket in our business. So for 2030, I do not see any major relevant impact.

Alexander Sagel: For 2030, I do not see any major relevant impact. We are more than confirming our 2030 midterm targets, taking everything into account, what I said before, on the development of the budget, on the permanent discussions, old versus new, et cetera. Does this help you, David?

Speaker #1: We are more than confirming our 2030 midterm targets, taking everything into account—what I said before on the development of the budgets, on the permanent discussions out versus new, etc.

Speaker #1: Does this help you, David?

Speaker #6: Thank you. Yeah, it's very clear, as always. Thank you.

David Perry: Yeah. It's very clear as always. Thank you.

Speaker #1: You're welcome.

Alexander Sagel: You're welcome.

Speaker #2: Thank you. We're going back to Benjamin Heelen with Bank of America. Please unmute your line by selecting star six.

Operator 2: Thank you. We're going back to Benjamin Heelan with Bank of America. Please unmute your line by selecting star six.

Operator: Thank you. We're going back to Benjamin Heelan with Bank of America. Please unmute your line by selecting star six.

Speaker #5: Hi, can you hear me?

Benjamin Heelan: Hi, can you hear me?

Speaker #1: Yes. Perfect then.

Alexander Sagel: Yes. Perfect, Ben.

Speaker #5: Amazing. Thank you. Apologies about that. I wanted to come back to the questions on Armenia, and just a broader question: why do you think things continue to be debated and discussed around the setup of this contract?

Benjamin Heelan: Amazing. Thank you. Apologies about that. I wanted to come back to the questions on Arminius and just a broader question in terms of why do you think things continue to be debated and discussed around the setup of this contract? It feels that every quarter for the last couple of quarters, the contract has been pushed to the right and pushed to the right. Initially it was because of debates around the contracting, and now you're highlighting in the call that some of those vehicles could be procured under the existing arrangements. Can you just help us understand, high level, why do you think these things continue to move? Why do the goalposts in terms of the structure of the contract continue to move? Thank you.

Speaker #5: It feels that every quarter for the last couple of quarters, the contract has been pushed to the right and pushed to the right. And initially, it was because of debates around the contracting, and now you're highlighting in the call that some of those vehicles could be procured under the existing arrangements.

Speaker #5: So can you just help us understand, at a high level, why you think these things continue to move? Why do the goalposts, in terms of the structure of the contract, continue to move?

Speaker #5: Thank you.

Speaker #1: Hi, Ben. I will try to do so, because I'm only a poor T-minus-one system supplier and, of course, I'm not a platform supplier.

Alexander Sagel: Hi Ben, I will try to do so because I'm only a poor T-minus one system supplier, and of course, I'm not a platform supplier. Anyway, I have an opinion. I think we discussed this also during the last call. I think first of all, we should not underestimate the complexity of this contract. Because independently, if you talk about 1,700 or 1,800 Boxer, we talk about at least six or seven different platforms. You always have the same drive module, but you have a different mission module. Then you have some easier mission models like concepts or phases where you have a turret on the Boxer, or you have more complicated and challenging platforms like the Skyranger, for example, where you need to develop a totally new and quite unique capability on this fast-moving incoming mobile air defense system.

Speaker #1: But anyway, I have an opinion, and I think we discussed this also during the last calls. I think, first of all, we should not underestimate the complexity of this contract.

Speaker #1: Because independently, if you talk about 1,700 or 1,800 Boxer, we talk about at least six or seven different platforms. So you always have the same drive module, but you have a different mission module.

Speaker #1: And then you have some easy mission models, like concepts or phases where you have a turret on the Boxer, or you have more complicated and challenging platforms like the SkyRanger, for example, where you need to develop a totally new and quite unique capability on these fast-moving, incoming mobile air defense systems.

Speaker #1: And I think this complexity is putting quite some load on the BNBV, on the German procurement, but it is also putting a lot of load on the primes.

Alexander Sagel: I think this complexity is putting quite some load on the BAAINBw on the German procurement, but it's also putting a lot of load on the primes, Rheinmetall and KNDS, who needs to orchestrate the supply base, who needs to orchestrate their own calculation and to discuss it with the BAAINBw. To be honest, I think from my knowledge as of today, there is still no BAFO submitted to the BAAINBw, best and final offer. For this reason, I think to consider that the Boxer Arminius contract will be discussed very late during 2026 in the German parliament is an absolute fair assumption. I think from my point of view, there is no question about the demand for the Boxers, but there is a question about how fast industry can deliver those Boxers.

Speaker #1: Biometallic KNDS, who needs to orchestrate the supply base, who needs to orchestrate their own calculation and to discuss it with the BNBV. And, to be honest, I think from my knowledge as of today, there's still no buffer submitted to the BNBV.

Speaker #1: Best and final offer. So for this reason, I think to consider that the Boxer Armenia contract will be discussed very late during 2026 in the German Parliament is an absolute assumption.

Speaker #1: And I think, from my point of view, there is no question about the demand for the Boxer, but there is a question about how fast industry can deliver these Boxers.

Speaker #1: And I think this is one part, from an outside-in perspective, why the discussions between the primes and the German procurement agency are taking so long, because I think there's also a kind of acceleration component included in this negotiation.

Alexander Sagel: I think this is one part from an outside-in perspective, why the discussions between the primes and the German procurement agency are taking long because I think there's also a kind of acceleration component included in this negotiation. Overall, the demand and the commitment, I think is absolutely clear. The budget is there. However, it takes time. The only reason why, for example, the German procurement organization is discussing and evaluating options to use simply existing frame contracts for the Schakal or maybe for the Skyranger module, to expand it is maybe there is a time pressure. Better contract some of these volumes from the 70 to 1,800 as soon as possible instead of waiting maybe until the final Arminius contract is fully negotiated. This sounds complex. I think everything is here complex, but this is my opinion.

Speaker #1: So, but overall, the demand and the commitment, I think, is absolutely clear. The budget is there. However, it takes time. And the only reason why, for example, the German procurement organization is discussing and evaluating options to use simply existing framework contracts for the SHAKAL or maybe for the SkyRanger module.

Speaker #1: To expand, maybe there is a time pressure. So, it's better to contract some of these volumes from the 70 to 1,800 as soon as possible, instead of waiting until the final Armenia contract is fully negotiated.

Speaker #1: This sounds complex. I think everything here is complex, but this is just my opinion.

Speaker #5: That's great, thank you. Can I just follow up? I guess, I mean, I think what a lot of people do is they look at what happened with the German draft budget and the delays around Boxer, and infer something around warfare is changing. Is the need for those vehicles really there, or are those vehicles just needed to do a lot of different things to what we thought they were going to do?

Benjamin Heelan: That's great. Thank you. Can I just follow up? I guess, I think what a lot of people do is they look at what happened with the German draft budget and the delays around Boxer and infer something around warfare is changing, and is the need for those vehicles really there, or are those vehicles just needed to do a lot of different things to what we thought they were going to do nine to 12 months ago, given loitering munitions and everything that you're seeing in the Middle East and in Ukraine. Do you have any views around that?

Speaker #5: Twelve months ago, given loitering munitions and everything that you're seeing in the Middle East and in Ukraine, do you have any views around that?

Speaker #1: Yeah, of course. I mean, first of all, and I try to explain this in the introduction—maybe it's perceived differently, especially in the media—but again, the capability requirement from NATO has not changed since the last summit in Den Haag.

Alexander Sagel: Yeah, of course. First of all, I try to explain this in the introduction, maybe it's perceived different, especially in the media, again, the capability requirement mix from NATO has not changed since the last summit in Denmark. Nothing is new that we need drones. Nothing is new that we need more Kamikaze loitering munition. Nothing has changed that we need a hell of air defense systems, that we need much more capabilities and quantities on long-range precision strike. Also nothing has changed from the perspective of having a strong conventional mass at the very end to provide the needed capabilities to defeat NATO territory. In fact, there is no change, there's also, to be honest, not a change. Do we need more modern warfare or what about the old stuff? You need both. Again, there is no new insight.

Speaker #1: So, nothing is new that we need drones. Nothing is new that we need more kamikaze loitering munitions. Nothing has changed that we need a hell of air defense systems and that we need much more capability and quantities of long-range precision strike. But also, nothing has changed from the perspective of having a strong conventional mass at the very end to provide the needed capabilities to defend NATO territory.

Speaker #1: So in fact, there is no change, and there's also, to be honest, not a change. Do we need more modern warfare, or what about the old stuff?

Speaker #1: You need both. And again, there is no new insight. And by the way, if you look at Iran, I think the Iran war is the best example that you cannot end a war, and you cannot win a war, and you cannot make a decisive move just by drones, just by airstrikes, and just by long-range smart missile attacks.

Alexander Sagel: By the way, if you look on Iran, I think Iran war is the best example that you cannot end a war, you cannot win a war, you cannot make a decisive move just by drones, just by airstrikes, just by long-range smart missile attacks. This is not working. For this reason, I'm saying the only way to stop this war is sit at a table and find an agreement on the Strait of Hormuz and better go home, to be honest. There will be no decisive move forward. No one will send troops in. For this reason, all what I'm saying is we need to have modern warfare. RENK is positioned. Now I'm coming to RENK in the conventional platforms. We are making our market and driving the market with our unmanned platforms idea. I'm very calm, relaxed at the moment.

Speaker #1: This is not working. And for this reason, I’m saying the only way to stop this war is to sit at a table, find an agreement on the Strait of Hormuz, and better go home, to be honest.

Speaker #1: But there will be no decisive move forward. No one will send troops in. So for this reason, all I’m saying is we need to have modern warfare rankers positioned.

Speaker #1: Now I'm coming to RENK in the conventional platforms. We are making our market and driving the market with our unmanned platforms idea. So I'm very calm.

Speaker #1: Relax.

Speaker #5: Very calm. Very clear. Thank you for the comments. Thank you.

Benjamin Heelan: Very clear. Thank you for the comments. Thank you.

Speaker #1: Welcome.

Alexander Sagel: Welcome.

Speaker #2: Your next question comes from Joe Orchard with Rothschild & Co. Redburn. Please unmute your line and ask your question.

Operator 2: Your next question comes from Joe Orchard with Rothschild & Co Redburn. Please unmute your line and ask your question.

Operator: Your next question comes from Joe Orchard with Rothschild & Co Redburn. Please unmute your line and ask your question.

Speaker #6: Hi there, good morning. Thank you very much for taking my questions. The first one would be really just around how concerned you are about the recent performance and the outlook for the non-defense parts of the business.

Joe Orchard: Hi there. Good morning. Thank you very much for taking my questions. The first one would just be around how concerned are you about the recent performance and the outlook for the non-defense parts of the business. Slide bearings, but also the non-defense portion of M&I as well. Second question would be on M&A, and following that, David Brown Defence acquisition. Are you still actively looking for more opportunities, or should we expect a bit of a pause on that front while you integrate that business into your existing operations? Thank you.

Speaker #6: So, slide bearings, but also the non-defense portion of M&I as well. And then the second question would be on M&A, and following that, David Brown, defense acquisition.

Speaker #6: Are you still actively looking for more opportunities, or should we expect a bit of a pause on that front while you integrate that business into your existing operations?

Speaker #6: Thank you.

Speaker #1: Hi, Joe. Very good questions. I will start maybe with the M&A part of the piece. If you look back in the history of RENK, I think we are quite active, and our entire international footprint, from UK, US, was realized by merger and acquisition, which is good because then we have immediately a strong local supply chain.

Alexander Sagel: Hi, Joe. Very good questions. I will start maybe with the M&A part of the piece. If you look back in the history of RENK, I think we are quite active and our entire international footprint from UK, US was realized by merger and acquisition, which is good because then we have immediately a strong local supply chain. David Brown Defence was, from our point of view, and is an absolute strategic asset, and I think the Defence investment plan is fully supporting this, especially if you look on market access by the so-called Five Eyes and what is the background of this Five Eyes. For us, we have US, we have UK, we have Canada, we have Australia. It's a unique position, to be honest. I can confirm that we are not tired in looking for further targets. We have a clear approach regarding our M&A strategy.

Speaker #1: David Brown was, from our point of view, and is, an absolute strategic asset, and I think the defense investment plan is fully supporting this. Especially if you look at market access by the so-called Five Eyes—and what is the background of this Five Eyes?

Speaker #1: For us, we have the US, we have the UK, we have Canada, we have Australia. It's a unique position, to be honest. But I can confirm that we are not tired of looking for further targets.

Speaker #1: We have a clear approach regarding our M&A strategy. We are looking for further market consolidation, which, to be honest, is only very limitedly possible on the land side and on the transmission side.

Alexander Sagel: We are looking for further market consolidation, which is on the land side and on the transmission side, very limited possible, to be honest, so it's more on the navy side. We have a strong view on our aftermarket business to develop our aftermarket business and maybe even develop our business model or change or expand our today's business model in the aftermarket side by M&A. Of course, looking on new technologies, which are part of our today's core mobility and where we can gain additional value and benefits by expanding the number of platforms and customer base and value proposition. To answer this in short, yes, we are active. We are looking, we are talking with targets because I do believe the next 2 or 3 years are really important. It's a really important time to drive this consolidation.

Speaker #1: So it's more on the Navy side. We have a strong view on our aftermarket business, to develop our aftermarket business and maybe even develop our business model, or change or expand our today's business model on the aftermarket side, but by M&A, and of course looking at new technologies, which are part of our today's core mobility, and where we can gain additional value and benefits by expanding the number of platforms and customer base and the value proposition.

Speaker #1: So to answer this in short, yes, we are active. We are looking. We are talking with targets, because I do believe the next two or three years are really important; it's a really important time to drive this consolidation.

Speaker #1: Regarding our industry business, I'll start with our transmission segment. As I always say, we are absolutely not targeting to sell our industry business. Why?

Alexander Sagel: Regarding our industry business, I start with our transmission segment. We are absolutely not targeting to sell our industry business. Why? We have in some areas key competencies, which might be relevant beyond 2030 and even are today relevant if you talk about Physical AI, where we are providing transmission, high-speed transmissions. It's not our core business. Anyway, we need the capacities we have today in order to ramp up our land business. The reason why we are staying in this average 3% of CapEx until 2030 is pretty much also impacted by the fact that we are using industrial sites. We are converting them into Defence sites, like our wonderful plant in Rheine, for example. For this reason, we don't need to build new plants. We need the capacities from the industry business in order to ramp up the land business.

Speaker #1: I mean, we have, in some areas, key competences which might be relevant beyond 2030, and are even today relevant if you talk about physical AI.

Speaker #1: We are providing high-speed transmissions. It's not our core business, but anyway, we need the capacities we have today in order to ramp up our land business.

Speaker #1: The reason why we are staying in this average 3% of CapEx until 2030 is pretty much also impacted by the fact that we are using industrial sites.

Speaker #1: We are converting them into defense sites, like our wonderful plant in Rhino, for example. And for this reason, we don't need to build new plants.

Speaker #1: So we need the capacities from the industry business in order to ramp up the land business, and we are not giving up this business.

Alexander Sagel: We are not giving up this business. We need to be more focused on cost performance, on product costs, because we have technologies that might be relevant in the next decade. For the slide bearing, please allow me one very unsatisfying sentence. No comment at this time.

Speaker #1: We need to be more focused on cost performance, on product cost, because we have technologies that might be relevant in the next decade. For the slide bearing, please allow me one very—I mean, unsatisfying—sentence: no comment at this time.

Speaker #6: Okay, that sounds super helpful. Thank you very much.

Joe Orchard: Okay. That's super helpful. Thank you very much.

Speaker #2: Thank you. This was the final question for today. This concludes the Q&A session, and I will now hand back to Maximilian König for closing remarks.

Operator 2: Thank you. This was the final question today. This concludes the Q&A session, and I will now hand back to Maximilian König for closing remarks.

Operator: Thank you. This was the final question today. This concludes the Q&A session, and I will now hand back to Maximilian König for closing remarks.

Speaker #1: Thank you very much for your questions and for taking the time to join us today. Should you have any follow-up questions, the entire RENK IR team will be happy to assist.

Maximilian König: Thank you very much for your questions and for taking the time to join us today. Should you have any follow-up questions, the entire RENK IR team will be happy to assist. We look forward to speaking to you again soon. Have a great day, enjoy your summer.

Speaker #1: We look forward to speaking to you again soon. Have a great day, and enjoy your summer.

Speaker #2: This concludes today's call. Thank you everyone for joining. You may now disconnect.

Operator 2: This concludes today's call. Thank you everyone for joining. You may now disconnect.

Operator: This concludes today's call. Thank you everyone for joining. You may now disconnect.

Operator 1: Auf Wiedersehen

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