Q2 2026 NACCO Industries Inc Earnings Call

August 6, 2026

Speaker #1: Thank you for standing by. My name is Tina, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the NACCO O Industries Q2 2026 earnings call.

Operator: Thank you for standing by. My name is Tina, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the NACCO Industries Q2 2026 earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question, simply press star one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, press star one again. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Christina Kmetko, investor relations. Please go ahead.

Speaker #1: All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question, simply press star 1 on your telephone keypad. question, press star 1 again.

Speaker #1: keypad. To withdraw your It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Christina Metko, investor relations. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Good morning, everyone. And thank you for joining us for our 2026 Q2 earnings call. I'm Christina Kmetko, and I'm responsible for investor relations at NACCO.

Christina Kmetko: Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our 2026 Q2 earnings call. I'm Christina Kmetko, and I'm responsible for investor relations at NACCO. Joining me today are J.C. Butler, NACCO's President and CEO, and Elizabeth Loveman, our Senior Vice President and Controller. Yesterday, we released our Q2 results and filed our 10-Q with the SEC. Both documents are available on our website. During today's call, we will reference non-GAAP measures which we believe provide additional insight into how we manage our business. Reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are also available on our website. Before we begin, let me remind you that today's remarks include forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially from those indicated due to a variety of risks and uncertainties, which are described in our earnings release, 10-Q, and other SEC filings. We undertake no obligation to update these statements.

Speaker #2: Joining me today are JC Butler, NACCO's President and CEO, and Elizabeth Loveman, our Senior Vice President and Controller. Yesterday, we released our Q2 results and filed our 10-Q with the SEC.

Speaker #2: Both documents are available on our website. During today's call, we will reference non-GAAP measures which we believe provide additional insight into how we manage our business.

Speaker #2: Reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are also available on our website. Before we begin, let me remind you that today's remarks include forward-looking statements.

Speaker #2: Actual results may differ materially from those indicated due to a variety of risks and uncertainties which are described in our earnings release, 10-Q, and other SEC files.

Speaker #2: We undertake no obligation to update these statements. Now I'll turn the call over to JC for his opening remarks. JC.

Christina Kmetko: Now I'll turn the call over to J.C. for his opening remarks. J.C.?

Speaker #3: Thanks, Christine. And good morning, everyone. I want to start by saying that, from an operating standpoint, Q2 showed meaningful progress across NACCO's businesses.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: Thanks, Christine, and good morning, everyone. I want to start by saying that from an operating standpoint, the Q2 showed meaningful progress across NACCO's businesses. Utility coal mining, contract mining, and minerals and royalties all contributed nicely to strong year-over-year improvement in gross profit and adjusted EBITDA. As we disclosed in our earnings release, the Q2 included impairment charges related to solar development projects that more than offset the strong operating performance of our established businesses and resulted in a consolidated operating and net loss. During the quarter, additional information and developments regarding two solar development projects within ReGen Resources became available, which caused us to reassess the economics of these projects. This included updated information about increased costs and delays in connecting generation facilities to the grid. These negative developments collectively reached a tipping point in the quarter. Two key factors are at play.

J.C. Butler: Thanks, Christine, and good morning, everyone. I want to start by saying that from an operating standpoint, the Q2 showed meaningful progress across NACCO's businesses. Utility coal mining, contract mining, and minerals and royalties all contributed nicely to strong year-over-year improvement in gross profit and adjusted EBITDA. As we disclosed in our earnings release, the Q2 included impairment charges related to solar development projects that more than offset the strong operating performance of our established businesses and resulted in a consolidated operating and net loss. During the quarter, additional information and developments regarding two solar development projects within ReGen Resources became available, which caused us to reassess the economics of these projects. This included updated information about increased costs and delays in connecting generation facilities to the grid. These negative developments collectively reached a tipping point in the quarter. Two key factors are at play.

Speaker #3: Utility coal mining, contract mining, and minerals and royalties all contributed nicely to strong year-over-year improvement in gross profit and adjusted EBITDA. As we disclosed in our earnings release, Q2 included impairment charges related to solar development projects that more than offset the strong operating performance of our established businesses and resulted in a consolidated operating and net loss.

Speaker #3: During the quarter, additional information and developments regarding two solar development projects within region resources became available, which caused us to reassess the economics of these projects.

Speaker #3: This included updated information about increased costs and delays in connecting generation facilities to the grid. These negative developments collectively reached a tipping point in the quarter.

Speaker #3: Two key factors are at play. Tax law changes tied to the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, which was signed into law just over a year ago, created tremendous timing and related procurement challenges for renewable development projects like ours, which were started long before the One Big Beautiful Bill came into play.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: Tax law changes tied to the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, which was signed into law just over a year ago, created tremendous timing and related procurement challenges for renewable development projects like ours, which were started long before the One Big Beautiful Bill came into play. Those factors, coupled with intense short-term demand for generating equipment, EPC services, and equipment required to connect projects to the grid, and price increases linked to this demand and tariffs, created a perfect storm. As part of our routine quarterly review, it became apparent that two impacted projects were veering off the path we anticipated, leading us to take the impairment. Our review of the situation resulted in impairment charges totaling $12 million in the quarter. We believe these impairments reflect a realistic view of the challenges in developing solar projects today, and we believe this was the right call for our business.

J.C. Butler: Tax law changes tied to the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, which was signed into law just over a year ago, created tremendous timing and related procurement challenges for renewable development projects like ours, which were started long before the One Big Beautiful Bill came into play. Those factors, coupled with intense short-term demand for generating equipment, EPC services, and equipment required to connect projects to the grid, and price increases linked to this demand and tariffs, created a perfect storm. As part of our routine quarterly review, it became apparent that two impacted projects were veering off the path we anticipated, leading us to take the impairment. Our review of the situation resulted in impairment charges totaling $12 million in the quarter. We believe these impairments reflect a realistic view of the challenges in developing solar projects today, and we believe this was the right call for our business.

Speaker #3: Those factors, coupled with intense short-term demand for generating equipment, EPC services, and equipment required to connect projects to the grid, and price increases linked to this demand and tariffs, created a perfect storm.

Speaker #3: As part of our routine quarterly review, it became apparent that two impacted projects were veering off the path we anticipated, leading us to take the impairment.

Speaker #3: Our review of the situation resulted in impairment charges totaling $12 million in the quarter. We believe these impairments reflect a realistic view of the challenges in developing solar projects today, and we believe this was the right call for our business.

Speaker #3: We are not treating this as business as usual. We understand that the impairment raises questions about our capital allocation discipline, particularly in a business with risks that differ from our established mining and natural resources operations.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: We are not treating this as business as usual. We understand that the impairment raises questions about our capital allocation discipline, particularly in a business with risks that differ from our established mining and natural resources operations. We reassessed these projects based on updated costs, timing, grid connection, regulatory and market information, and we are pursuing a range of alternatives to monetize these investments and reduce future exposure. These alternatives include potential asset sales, contract amendments, and other strategic actions. Depending on the outcome, there could be additional curtailment charges, but our focus is on preserving value where possible and limiting future capital requirements. As many of you know, we've always taken a long-term approach to building this company. We invest in business and opportunities where we believe our operating expertise, core skills, patience, and disciplined capital investments can create value over time.

J.C. Butler: We are not treating this as business as usual. We understand that the impairment raises questions about our capital allocation discipline, particularly in a business with risks that differ from our established mining and natural resources operations. We reassessed these projects based on updated costs, timing, grid connection, regulatory and market information, and we are pursuing a range of alternatives to monetize these investments and reduce future exposure. These alternatives include potential asset sales, contract amendments, and other strategic actions. Depending on the outcome, there could be additional curtailment charges, but our focus is on preserving value where possible and limiting future capital requirements. As many of you know, we've always taken a long-term approach to building this company. We invest in business and opportunities where we believe our operating expertise, core skills, patience, and disciplined capital investments can create value over time.

Speaker #3: We reassessed these projects based on updated costs, timing, grid connection, regulatory and market information, and we are pursuing a range of alternatives to monetize these investments and reduce future exposure.

Speaker #3: These alternatives include potential asset sales, contract amendments, and other strategic actions. Depending on the outcome, there could be additional curtailment charges, but our focus is on preserving value where possible and limiting future capital requirements.

Speaker #3: As many of you know, we have always taken a long-term approach to building this company. We invest in business and opportunities where we believe our operating expertise, core skills, patience, and discipline capital investments can create value over time.

Speaker #3: That approach has helped grow and diversify NACCO over the years, in most instances with great success. However, an important part of that philosophy is continually evaluating investments as markets evolve.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: That approach has helped grow and diversify NACCO over the years, in most instances with great success. However, an important part of that philosophy is continually evaluating investments as markets evolve. We assess opportunities against our financial objectives and expected returns, and we are willing to adjust our priorities when we see better paths to long-term value creation. Recent developments with our solar projects have reinforced the need to apply heightened scrutiny to investments outside our established operating platforms. With that, let's turn to our core businesses. At Utility Coal Mining, Mississippi Lignite Mining Company was a main driver of the operating profit increase in utility coal mining as our team effectively responded to changing conditions. Operational issues at the customer's power plant affected production requirements, and our team shifted resources to planned reclamation activities.

J.C. Butler: That approach has helped grow and diversify NACCO over the years, in most instances with great success. However, an important part of that philosophy is continually evaluating investments as markets evolve. We assess opportunities against our financial objectives and expected returns, and we are willing to adjust our priorities when we see better paths to long-term value creation. Recent developments with our solar projects have reinforced the need to apply heightened scrutiny to investments outside our established operating platforms. With that, let's turn to our core businesses. At Utility Coal Mining, Mississippi Lignite Mining Company was a main driver of the operating profit increase in utility coal mining as our team effectively responded to changing conditions. Operational issues at the customer's power plant affected production requirements, and our team shifted resources to planned reclamation activities.

Speaker #3: We assess opportunities against our financial objectives and expected returns, and we are willing to adjust our priorities when we see better paths to long-term value creation.

Speaker #3: Recent developments with our solar projects have reinforced the need to apply heightened scrutiny to investments outside our established operating platforms. With that, let's turn to our core businesses.

Speaker #3: At Utility Coal Mining, Mississippi Lignite Mining Company, was a main driver of the operating profit increase in Utility Coal Mining as our team effectively responded to changing conditions.

Speaker #3: Operational issues at the customers' power plant affected production requirements, and our team shifted resources to planned reclamation activities. This reduced our asset retirement obligation rather than having those costs be recognized as an expense that would have impacted Q2 earnings.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: This reduced our asset retirement obligation rather than having those costs be recognized as an expense that would have impacted Q2 earnings. This nimble response allowed them to continue working while also advancing work that supports the long-term life cycle of the mine and is consistent with how our coal mining teams operate. We have longstanding customer relationships built around reliability, safety, environmental responsibility, and the ability to adapt as situations require. Separately, we are actively engaged with the customer regarding the delayed payments disclosed in our 10-Q. We are focused on collecting amounts owed, preserving our contractual rights, and evaluating all options available under the contract. While we will not discuss specific legal strategies on this call, we understand the importance of enforcing the economic protections in the contract if payment delays continue.

J.C. Butler: This reduced our asset retirement obligation rather than having those costs be recognized as an expense that would have impacted Q2 earnings. This nimble response allowed them to continue working while also advancing work that supports the long-term life cycle of the mine and is consistent with how our coal mining teams operate. We have longstanding customer relationships built around reliability, safety, environmental responsibility, and the ability to adapt as situations require. Separately, we are actively engaged with the customer regarding the delayed payments disclosed in our 10-Q. We are focused on collecting amounts owed, preserving our contractual rights, and evaluating all options available under the contract. While we will not discuss specific legal strategies on this call, we understand the importance of enforcing the economic protections in the contract if payment delays continue.

Speaker #3: This nimble response allowed them to continue working while also advancing work that supports the long-term lifecycle of the mine and is consistent with how our coal mining teams operate.

Speaker #3: We have longstanding customer relationships built around reliability, safety, environmental situations require. Separately, we are actively engaged with the customer regarding the delayed payments disclosed in our 10-Q.

Speaker #3: We are focused on collecting amounts owed, preserving our contractual rights, and evaluating all options available under the contract. While we will not discuss specific legal strategies on this call, we understand the importance of enforcing the economic protections in the contract if payment delays continue.

Speaker #3: Contract mining continues to be our primary growth platform for mining, with strong Q2 results reflecting the successful execution of this growth. The new dragline services work in Palm Beach County in Florida is ramping up.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: Contract mining continues to be our primary growth platform for mining, with strong Q2 results reflecting the successful execution of this growth. The new dragline services work in Palm Beach County, Florida is ramping up. Our limestone mining operations continue to serve growing customer requirements, and we are preparing to begin operations at a new limestone quarry in Arizona later this year. This business builds on our existing expertise through geographic and mineral expansion, and a growing portfolio of long-term contracts with strong customers. We are improving profitability, enhancing earnings visibility, and creating long-term value. That kind of growth fits NACCO well. In minerals and royalties, we continue to successfully manage a diversified portfolio of oil and gas, mineral, and royalty interests, and related investments.

J.C. Butler: Contract mining continues to be our primary growth platform for mining, with strong Q2 results reflecting the successful execution of this growth. The new dragline services work in Palm Beach County, Florida is ramping up. Our limestone mining operations continue to serve growing customer requirements, and we are preparing to begin operations at a new limestone quarry in Arizona later this year. This business builds on our existing expertise through geographic and mineral expansion, and a growing portfolio of long-term contracts with strong customers. We are improving profitability, enhancing earnings visibility, and creating long-term value. That kind of growth fits NACCO well. In minerals and royalties, we continue to successfully manage a diversified portfolio of oil and gas, mineral, and royalty interests, and related investments.

Speaker #3: Our limestone mining operations continue to serve growing customer requirements, and we are preparing to begin operations at a new limestone quarry in Arizona later this year.

Speaker #3: This business builds on our existing expertise. Through greater geographic and mineral expansion and a growing portfolio of long-term contracts with strong customers, we are improving profitability, enhancing earnings visibility, and creating long-term value.

Speaker #3: That kind of growth fits NACCO well. In minerals and royalties, we continue to successfully manage a diversified portfolio of oil and gas mineral and royalty interests and related investments.

Speaker #3: This business aligns well with our core growth strategy by levering our core skills and assets to generate meaningful ongoing cash flows across a broad range of natural resource businesses.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: This business aligns well with our core growth strategy by leveraging our core skills and assets to generate meaningful ongoing cash flows across a broad range of natural resource businesses. The team continues to take a disciplined, data-driven approach to evaluating the portfolio and future opportunities. While Q2 results for minerals and royalties were strong, results in this segment can be affected by commodity prices, production timing, and the pace of domestic development activity. We manage the portfolio with a long-term view and continue to build on the quality of the assets we own. We expect profits in this segment to moderate near-term due to normal production declines on existing wells and a continuation of the current pace of domestic development activity, particularly in natural gas. Mitigation Resources continues to build its platform in natural resource restoration and reclamation services.

J.C. Butler: This business aligns well with our core growth strategy by leveraging our core skills and assets to generate meaningful ongoing cash flows across a broad range of natural resource businesses. The team continues to take a disciplined, data-driven approach to evaluating the portfolio and future opportunities. While Q2 results for minerals and royalties were strong, results in this segment can be affected by commodity prices, production timing, and the pace of domestic development activity. We manage the portfolio with a long-term view and continue to build on the quality of the assets we own. We expect profits in this segment to moderate near-term due to normal production declines on existing wells and a continuation of the current pace of domestic development activity, particularly in natural gas. Mitigation Resources continues to build its platform in natural resource restoration and reclamation services.

Speaker #3: The team continues to take a disciplined, data-driven approach to evaluating the portfolio and future opportunities. While Q2 results for minerals and royalties were strong, results in this segment can be affected by commodity prices, production timing, and the pace of domestic development activity.

Speaker #3: We manage the portfolio with a long-term view and continue to build on the quality, the assets we own. We expect profits in this segment to moderate near-term due to normal production growth climbs on existing wells and a continuation of the current pace of domestic development activity particularly in natural gas.

Speaker #3: Mitigation resources continues to build its platform in natural resource restoration and reclamation services. We are pleased to see that mitigation resources is building a strong and sustainable business by leveraging our environmental and land management skills and experience.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: We are pleased to see that Mitigation Resources is building a strong and sustainable business by leveraging our environmental and land management skills and experience. While performance is currently variable as this business grows, Mitigation Resources is on a very nice trajectory towards profitability that we believe will provide consistent results as the business expands. Stepping back, the H1 of the year reinforced what we believe makes us unique. We have core legacy businesses that generate strong earnings and cash flow today, growth platforms that are expanding, and a disciplined investment process that requires us to continually evaluate where capital can create the most value. Sometimes that means investing for growth. Sometimes it means adjusting course as facts and circumstances change. Both are part of responsible long-term investment discipline. As part of our disciplined investment approach, we remain focused on strengthening our balance sheet.

J.C. Butler: We are pleased to see that Mitigation Resources is building a strong and sustainable business by leveraging our environmental and land management skills and experience. While performance is currently variable as this business grows, Mitigation Resources is on a very nice trajectory towards profitability that we believe will provide consistent results as the business expands. Stepping back, the H1 of the year reinforced what we believe makes us unique. We have core legacy businesses that generate strong earnings and cash flow today, growth platforms that are expanding, and a disciplined investment process that requires us to continually evaluate where capital can create the most value. Sometimes that means investing for growth. Sometimes it means adjusting course as facts and circumstances change. Both are part of responsible long-term investment discipline. As part of our disciplined investment approach, we remain focused on strengthening our balance sheet.

Speaker #3: While performance is currently variable as this business grows, mitigation resources is on a very nice trajectory towards profitability that we believe will provide consistent results as the business expands.

Speaker #3: Stepping back, the first half of the year reinforced what we believe makes us unique. generate strong earnings and cash flow today. Growth platforms that are expanding and a disciplined investment process that requires us to continually evaluate where capital can create the most value.

Speaker #3: Sometimes that means investing for growth. Sometimes it means adjusting course as facts and circumstances change. Both are part of responsible, long-term investment discipline. As part of our disciplined investment approach, we remain focused on strengthening our balance sheet.

Speaker #3: We are prioritizing the use of free cash flow to enhance liquidity and reduce debt while continuing to fund disciplined, high-return investment opportunities. We anticipate investing up to $35 million in the remainder of the year, primarily for business development opportunities, but only if investment opportunities meet our capital investment criteria.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: We are prioritizing the use of free cash flow to enhance liquidity and reduce debt while continuing to fund disciplined high-return investment opportunities. We anticipate investing up to $35 million in the remainder of the year, primarily for business development opportunities, but only if investment opportunities meet our capital investment criteria. Recent developments have reinforced our focus on investing where there are clear value creation pathways. We believe this approach positions us to execute our growth strategies while strengthening our balance sheet and creating long-term value for our shareholders. With that, I'll turn the call over to Liz to walk through the financial results and outlook in more detail. Liz?

J.C. Butler: We are prioritizing the use of free cash flow to enhance liquidity and reduce debt while continuing to fund disciplined high-return investment opportunities. We anticipate investing up to $35 million in the remainder of the year, primarily for business development opportunities, but only if investment opportunities meet our capital investment criteria. Recent developments have reinforced our focus on investing where there are clear value creation pathways. We believe this approach positions us to execute our growth strategies while strengthening our balance sheet and creating long-term value for our shareholders. With that, I'll turn the call over to Liz to walk through the financial results and outlook in more detail. Liz?

Speaker #3: investing where there are clear value creation pathways. We believe this approach positions us to execute our growth strategies while strengthening our balance sheet and creating long-term value for our shareholders.

Speaker #3: With that, I'll turn the call over to Liz to walk through the financials results and outlook in more detail. Liz?

Speaker #2: Thank you, Jason. Building on Jason's operational comments, I'll provide an overview of our financial results. The key takeaways that our operating businesses delivered strong quarterly year-over-year operating I'm sorry, strong quarterly year-over-year profit improvements will reported GAAP results reflected the solar-related impairment charges Jason discussed.

Elizabeth Loveman: Thank you, J.C. Building on J.C.'s operational comments, I will provide an overview of our financial results. The key takeaways that our operating businesses delivered strong quarterly year-over-year profit improvements while reported GAAP results reflected the solar-related impairment charges J.C. discussed. Consolidated revenues were $72.3 million, up 6% from $68.2 million in the prior year quarter. Gross profit was $15.2 million, up 123% from $6.8 million last year, reflecting strong performance across each reportable segment. The consolidated operating loss was $2.3 million, compared with an operating loss of less than $100,000 in the prior year quarter. The net loss was $1 million, or $0.13 per diluted share, compared with net income of $3.3 million, or $0.44 per diluted share in the 2025 Q2. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA was up 72% to $15.9 million from $9.3 million last year.

Speaker #2: Consolidated revenues were $72.3 million. Up 6% from $68.2 million in the prior year quarter. Gross profit was $15.2 million up 123% from $6.8 million last year, reflecting strong performance across each reportable segment.

Speaker #2: The consolidated operating loss was $2.3 million, compared with an operating loss of less than $100,000 in the prior year quarter. The net loss was $1.0 million, or $0.13 per diluted share, compared with net income of $3.3 million, or $0.44 per diluted share in the 2025 second quarter.

Speaker #2: Consolidated adjusted EBITDA was up 72%, to $15.9 million from $9.3 million last year. This measure excludes the solar-related charges and highlights the improvement in the underlying operating businesses.

Elizabeth Loveman: This measure excludes the solar-related charges and highlights the improvement in the underlying operating businesses. At the segment level, Utility Coal Mining results were affected by operational issues at Mississippi Lignite Mining Company's customer's power plant. While revenues decreased due to lower customer requirements, operating profit increased to $6.3 million from $1.2 million in the prior year quarter, and segment adjusted EBITDA increased to $8.7 million from $3.4 million. These improvements primarily reflect better Mississippi Lignite Mining Company results as resources were shifted to planned reclamation activities, as well as increased earnings from unconsolidated operations and lower operating expenses. Looking forward, we expect full-year Utility Coal Mining operating profit to increase year-over-year due to the strong H1 performance.

Speaker #2: At the segment level, utility coal mining results were affected by operational issues at Mississippi Lignite Mining Company's customers' power plant, while revenues decreased due to lower customer requirements, operating profit increased to $6.3 million from $1.2 million in the prior year quarter, and segment-adjusted EBITDA increased to $8.7 million from $3.4 million.

Speaker #2: These improvements primarily reflect better Mississippi Lignite Mining Company results as resources were shifted to planned reclamation activities, as well as increased earnings from unconsolidated operations and lower operating expenses.

Speaker #2: Looking forward, we expect full-year utility coal mining operating profit to increase year-over-year due to the strong first-half performance. In the second half of 2026, we expect results at Mississippi Lignite Mining Company to decline from the first half due to lower customer demand, higher diesel fuel costs, and an anticipated inventory impairment charge.

Elizabeth Loveman: In the H2 of 2026, we expect results at Mississippi Lignite Mining Company to decline from the H1 due to lower customer demand, higher diesel fuel costs, and an anticipated inventory impairment charge. We are also monitoring the customer's payment status closely, and our outlook reflects the need for continued caution around customer demand, collection timing, and inventory valuation. Earnings of the unconsolidated mining operations are also expected to decrease due to the completion of reclamation services at the Sabina Mining Company on 30 September 2026. Segment profitability is expected to improve in 2027. It is driven by increases in both the consolidated and unconsolidated mining operations. In the Contract Mining segment, current quarter results benefited from the commencement and ramp-up of the Palm Beach County dragline services contract.

Speaker #2: We are also monitoring the customers' payment status closely and our outlook reflects the need for continued caution around customer demand collection timing and inventory valuation.

Speaker #2: Earnings at the unconsolidated mining operations are also expected to decrease due to the completion of reclamation services at the Sabine Mining Company on September 30, 2026.

Speaker #2: Segment profitability is expected to improve in 2027, driven by increases in both the consolidated and unconsolidated mining operations. In the contract mining segment, current quarter results benefited from the commencement and wrap-up of the Palm Beach County Dragline Services contract.

Speaker #2: This contract, combined with increased customer requirements and deliveries at the Limestone Mining Operations, led to a 34% increase in revenues net of reimbursed costs and substantial year-over-year increases in both operating profit and segment-adjusted EBITDA.

Elizabeth Loveman: This contract, combined with increased customer requirements and deliveries at the limestone mining operations, led to a 34% increase in revenues net of ramp-up start cost and substantial year-over-year increases in both operating profit and segment adjusted EBITDA. Operating profit increased to $3.8 million from $1 million, and segment adjusted EBITDA increased to $6.3 million from $3.9 million. For both the H2 and full-year of 2026, we expect substantial year-over-year growth in Contract Mining operating profit and segment adjusted EBITDA. H2 results are expected to moderate from the strong H1 due to lower anticipated customer demand. In 2027, a full-year of earnings contributions from Palm Beach dragline services contract, together with potential new deals in the pipeline, are expected to lead to significant operating profit improvement.

Speaker #2: Operating and profit increased to $3.8 million from $1 million, and segment-adjusted EBITDA increased to $6.3 million from $3.9 million. For both the second half and full year of 2026, we expect substantial year-over-year growth in contract mining operating profit and segment-adjusted EBITDA.

Speaker #2: Second half results are expected to moderate from the strong first half due to lower anticipated customer demand. In 2027, a full year of earnings contributions from Palm Beach Dragline Services contract, together with potential new deals in the pipeline, are expected to lead to significant operating profit improvement.

Speaker #2: In the minerals and royalties segment, operating profit increased to $6.7 million, from $5.2 million. And segment-adjusted EBITDA increased to $7.7 million, from $6.1 million.

Elizabeth Loveman: In the Minerals and Royalty segment, operating profit increased to $6.7 million from $5.2 million, and segment adjusted EBITDA increased to $7.7 million from $6.1 million. The improvements were primarily due to a 46% increase in royalty revenues, driven by higher oil prices and a favorable adjustment to prior period pricing estimates, partly offset by lower Q2 earnings from our Eiger investment. For the remainder of 2026, we expect increased income from our Eiger investment and higher oil prices to be more than offset by anticipated production declines and a changing mix of production and development activity. As a result, operating profit and segment adjusted EBITDA are projected to decline compared with H1 2026 as well as H2 and full year of 2025. In 2027, we expect the Minerals and Royalty segment to continue generating meaningful earnings and cash flow.

Speaker #2: The improvements were primarily due to a 46% increase in royalty revenues driven by higher oil prices and a favorable adjustment to prior period pricing estimates, partly offset by lower second-quarter earnings from our IGER investment.

Speaker #2: For the remainder of 2026, we expect increased income from our IGER investment and higher oil prices to be more than offset by anticipated production declines and a changing mix of production and development activity.

Speaker #2: As a result, operating profit and segment-adjusted EBITDA are projected to decline compared with the first half of 2026, as well as the second half and full year 2025.

Speaker #2: In 2027, we expect the minerals and royalty segment to continue generating meaningful earnings and cash flow, although operating profit is expected to moderate, primarily due to normal production declines and the continuation of the current moderate pace of domestic development activity.

Elizabeth Loveman: Operating profit is expected to moderate primarily due to normal production declines and a continuation of the current moderate pace of domestic development activity. At the consolidated level, we expect a strong performance generated by our reportable segments during H1 2026 to drive year-over-year improvements in full year 2026 consolidated adjusted EBITDA, which excludes the solar impairment charges and a $7.8 million pre-tax pension settlement charge recorded in 2025. Given the effect of these changes and potential curtailment and impairment charges in H2 2026, we anticipate H2 and full-year operating profit and net income will be lower than in 2025. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA in H2 2026 is expected to remain strong, although the pace of growth is expected to moderate relative to both H1 2026 and prior year periods.

Speaker #2: At the consolidated level, we expect a strong performance generated by our reportable segments during the first half of 2026 to drive year-over-year improvements in full year 2026 consolidated adjusted EBITDA, which excludes the solar impairment charges and a $7.8 million pre-tax pension, settlement charge recorded in 2025.

Speaker #2: Given the effect of these changes and potential curtailment and impairment charges in the second half of 2026, we anticipate second half and full year operating profit and net income will be lower than in 2025.

Speaker #2: Consolidated adjusted EBITDA in the second half of 2026 is expected to remain strong, although the pace of growth is expected to moderate relative to both the first half of '26 and prior year periods.

Speaker #2: From a liquidity standpoint, at June 30, 2026, we had outstanding debt of $120.1 million, total liquidity was $114.6 million, consisting of $45.5 million of cash and $69.1 million of availability under our revolving credit facility.

Elizabeth Loveman: From a liquidity standpoint, at 30 June 2026, we had outstanding debt of $120.1 million. Total liquidity was $114.6 million, consisting of $45.5 million of cash and $69.1 million of availability under our revolving credit facility. While we anticipate a moderate year-over-year increase in cash generation from operations, cash flow before financing is projected to remain a use of cash in 2026, reflecting our planned investment activity. We expect cash flow before financing for 2026 to improve modestly over 2025, and we expect that improvement to continue into 2027. With that, I'll turn the call back to J.C. for closing remarks.

Speaker #2: What we anticipate a moderate year-over-year increase in cash generated from operations cash flow before financing is projected to remain a use of cash in 2026, reflecting our planned investment activity.

Speaker #2: We expect cash flow before financing for 2026 to improve modestly over 2025, and we expect that improvement to continue into 2027. With that, I'll turn the call back to JC for closing remarks.

Speaker #1: Thanks, Liz. To wrap up the second quarter demonstrated the strength of our core operating businesses. Our teams are executing well, contract mining continues to demonstrate the value of the long-term growth platform we are building, and our other businesses continue to expand capabilities that can contribute over time.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: Thanks, Liz. To wrap up, the Q2 demonstrated the strength of our core operating businesses. Our teams are executing well. Contract mining continues to demonstrate the value of the long-term growth platform we are building, our other businesses continue to expand capabilities that can contribute over time. At the same time, we are focused on directing capital only towards the opportunities we believe offer the strongest risk-adjusted returns. We remain focused on execution, liquidity, disciplined capital investments, and long-term cash flow generation. As recent investments mature and new contracts contribute more fully, we expect our businesses to support improving results and stronger cash flows over time. We'll now turn the call over to any questions you may have.

J.C. Butler: Thanks, Liz. To wrap up, the Q2 demonstrated the strength of our core operating businesses. Our teams are executing well. Contract mining continues to demonstrate the value of the long-term growth platform we are building, our other businesses continue to expand capabilities that can contribute over time. At the same time, we are focused on directing capital only towards the opportunities we believe offer the strongest risk-adjusted returns. We remain focused on execution, liquidity, disciplined capital investments, and long-term cash flow generation. As recent investments mature and new contracts contribute more fully, we expect our businesses to support improving results and stronger cash flows over time. We'll now turn the call over to any questions you may have.

Speaker #1: At the same time, we are focused on directing capital only towards the opportunities we believe offer the strongest risk-adjusted returns. We remain focused on execution, liquidity, disciplined capital investments, and long-term cash flow generation.

Speaker #1: As Reisman Investments mature and new contracts contribute more fully, we expect our businesses to support improving results and stronger cash flows over time. We'll now turn the call over to any questions you may have.

Speaker #3: As a reminder to ask a question, simply press star 1 on your telephone keypad. Again, that is star 1 to ask a question. And our first question comes from Douglas Weiss with DSW Investments.

Operator: As a reminder to ask a question, simply press star one on your telephone keypad. Again, that is star one to ask a question. Our first question comes from Douglas Weiss with DSW Investment. Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Please go ahead.

Speaker #4: Hi, good morning.

Douglas Weiss: Hi, good morning.

Speaker #1: Good morning.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: Morning.

J.C. Butler: Morning.

Elizabeth Loveman: Morning.

Speaker #4: So congrats on another good result. I guess starting with MLMC, what it seems like there are a few things going on at once there, and I was hoping to just get a little more clarity on each.

Douglas Weiss: Congrats on another good result. I guess, starting with MLMC. It seems like there are a few things going on at once there, and I was hoping to just get a little more clarity on each. I guess you alluded in the 10-Q to reduce demand for MLMC's generation. My sense, I would have thought that demand would be pretty steady given the growing need for electricity. Could you just comment on that?

Speaker #4: I guess you alluded in the queue to reduced demand for MLMC's generation. My sense is I would have thought that demand would be pretty steady, given the growing need for electricity.

Speaker #4: Could you just comment on that?

Speaker #1: Yeah, sure. It's a good question. So there's three things at play, right? One is we deliver the fuel, the power plant, generates electrons, and TVA takes the electrons to put onto the grid.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: Yeah, sure. It's a good question. There's three things at play, right? One is we deliver the fuel, the power plant generates electrons, and TVA takes the electrons to put onto the grid. We stand ready to deliver the fuel when it's needed, as we're contractually obligated to do. The power plant operates when it is able to operate. Although, as you know, because you've followed the company for a long time, the power plant goes through those planned outages when it's sort of periods of routine maintenance. Those are typically done during the spring and the fall when the weather's pretty moderate and there's not the same level of demand on the grid in general because of less air conditioning needs and things like that in the South.

J.C. Butler: Yeah, sure. It's a good question. There's three things at play, right? One is we deliver the fuel, the power plant generates electrons, and TVA takes the electrons to put onto the grid. We stand ready to deliver the fuel when it's needed, as we're contractually obligated to do. The power plant operates when it is able to operate. Although, as you know, because you've followed the company for a long time, the power plant goes through those planned outages when it's sort of periods of routine maintenance. Those are typically done during the spring and the fall when the weather's pretty moderate and there's not the same level of demand on the grid in general because of less air conditioning needs and things like that in the South.

Speaker #1: We stand ready to deliver the fuel when it's needed as we're contractually obligated to do. The power plant operates when it is able to operate, although, as you know, because you've followed the company for a long time, the power plant goes through both planned outages when it's sort of periods of routine maintenance.

Speaker #1: Those are typically done during the spring and the fall when the weather is pretty moderate and there's not the same level of demand. On the grid in general.

Speaker #1: Because of less air conditioning needs and things like that in the South. So you got the planned outages, but then you also have unplanned outages.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: You got the planned outages, you also have the unplanned outages, and as you know over the last several years, the plant has had a number of periods of unplanned outages. During Q2, there was a pretty significant unplanned outage at the plant. We knew it was going to be down for a while while they were repairing it, so we diverted our work to reclamation activities that go through. Those costs get charged to the balance sheet as opposed to the income statement because we've got a reclamation liability. You've got the plant that has planned and unplanned outages, the other piece of this is when the plant is up and available, is TVA taking the electrons or not? It's called dispatch.

J.C. Butler: You got the planned outages, you also have the unplanned outages, and as you know over the last several years, the plant has had a number of periods of unplanned outages. During Q2, there was a pretty significant unplanned outage at the plant. We knew it was going to be down for a while while they were repairing it, so we diverted our work to reclamation activities that go through. Those costs get charged to the balance sheet as opposed to the income statement because we've got a reclamation liability. You've got the plant that has planned and unplanned outages, the other piece of this is when the plant is up and available, is TVA taking the electrons or not? It's called dispatch.

Speaker #1: And as you know, over the last several years, the plant has had a number of periods of unplanned outages. During the second quarter, there was a pretty significant unplanned outage at the plant.

Speaker #1: We knew it was going to be down for a while while they were repairing it. So we diverted our work to reclamation activities that go through those costs get charged to balance sheet as opposed to the income statement because we've got a reclamation liability.

Speaker #1: So you've got the plant that has planned and unplanned outages, but then the other piece of this is when the plant is up and available, is TVA taking the electrons or not.

Speaker #1: It's called dispatch. And there are times when generally, yes, from a macro standpoint, increasing demand for data and other things. Certainly, as increasing demand, there are periods of time when TVA finds itself with excess electrons, and it will choose which assets it's going to dispatch.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: There are times when, generally yes, from a macro standpoint, increasing demand for data and other things certainly is increasing demand. There are periods of time when TVA finds itself with excess electrons, and it will choose which assets it's going to dispatch. Tax law, convoluted, I think distorting tax law sometimes causes renewables to be dispatched ahead of base load generation because of the tax credits. There are just other times when the weather turns out to be really mild or other things happen and TVA just doesn't need the electrons. As we sit on the back side of this, we're subject to power plant being up and running and TVA needing the electrons. Our history is our history. The forecast is based on what are we hearing from our customer in TVA.

J.C. Butler: There are times when, generally yes, from a macro standpoint, increasing demand for data and other things certainly is increasing demand. There are periods of time when TVA finds itself with excess electrons, and it will choose which assets it's going to dispatch. Tax law, convoluted, I think distorting tax law sometimes causes renewables to be dispatched ahead of base load generation because of the tax credits. There are just other times when the weather turns out to be really mild or other things happen and TVA just doesn't need the electrons. As we sit on the back side of this, we're subject to power plant being up and running and TVA needing the electrons. Our history is our history. The forecast is based on what are we hearing from our customer in TVA.

Speaker #1: Tax law convoluted I think distorting tax law sometimes causes renewables to be dispatched ahead of baseload generation. Because of the tax credits. And then there are just other times when the weather turns out to be really mild or other things happen and TVA just doesn't need the electrons.

Speaker #1: So as we sit on the backside of this, we're subject to power plant being up and running and TVA needing the electrons. Our history is our history.

Speaker #1: The forecast is based on what are we hearing from our customer and TVA. But the indications that we get are general and not specific.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: The indications that we get are general and not specific, day by day or week by week. It can change from that. Our current expectation is what it is, and we're just going to have to see how that plays out with the power plants and TVA with respect to electrons. Does that explain it?

J.C. Butler: The indications that we get are general and not specific, day by day or week by week. It can change from that. Our current expectation is what it is, and we're just going to have to see how that plays out with the power plants and TVA with respect to electrons. Does that explain it?

Speaker #1: Day by day or week by week. And so it can change from that. Our current expectation is what it is. And we're just going to have to see how that plays out with the power plants and TVA with respect to electrons.

Speaker #1: That explain it?

Speaker #4: Yeah, yeah. No, that's helpful. And as far as the receivable it doesn't sound like from a practical standpoint, there's much in the near term to be done on that except wait for the plant to come?

Douglas Weiss: Yeah. No, that's helpful. As far as the receivable, it doesn't sound like from a practical standpoint, there's much in the near term to be done on that except wait for the plant to.

Speaker #1: Well, I mean.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: Well, I mean-

J.C. Butler: Well, I mean-

Douglas Weiss: to be more fully utilized. Yeah.

Speaker #4: To be more fully utilized. Yeah.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: I can tell you we're paying a lot of attention to it. We're keenly focused on it, and we're, as we have, we will continue to enforce and pursue the clear rights to remedy that we've got in our contract.

J.C. Butler: I can tell you we're paying a lot of attention to it. We're keenly focused on it, and we're, as we have, we will continue to enforce and pursue the clear rights to remedy that we've got in our contract.

Speaker #1: I can tell you we're paying a lot of attention to it. We're keenly focused on it, and we're as we have, we will continue to enforce and pursue the clear rights to remedy that we've got in our contract.

Douglas Weiss: Mm-hmm. Okay.

Speaker #4: Okay.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: Contract was of 1995. It runs until 2032. It's been the same contract throughout, so we're pretty familiar with the terms.

J.C. Butler: Contract was of 1995. It runs until 2032. It's been the same contract throughout, so we're pretty familiar with the terms.

Speaker #1: Contract. Since the 1995, it runs until 2032. It's been the same contract throughout. So we're pretty familiar with the terms.

Speaker #4: Right, right. Okay. Let's see. I had a kind of bigger picture or longer-term question on power production in North Dakota. I was reading about proposals to extend a pipeline from the back end across North Dakota.

Douglas Weiss: Right. Okay. Let's see. I had a kind of bigger picture or longer-term question on power production in North Dakota. I was reading about proposals to extend a pipeline from the Bakken across North Dakota. I'm just curious how likely you think those projects are to go forward, or that project is to go forward, and if that would potentially introduce new gas-fired competition into the region over the next, I guess really, over the next decade.

Speaker #4: I'm just curious, how likely you think those projects are to go forward or that project is to go forward? And if that would have potentially introduced new gas-fired competition into the region over the next, I guess, really over the next decade.

Speaker #1: Well, so the pipeline—I mean, there's multiple pipeline projects being discussed up there in North Dakota. We're not a party to that, so it's hard for me to really comment on the likelihood or any of that.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: Well, the pipeline, there's multiple pipeline projects being discussed up there in North Dakota. We're not a party to that, so it's hard for me to really comment on the likelihood or any of that. I can tell you that it's an incredibly energy-rich state with tremendous coal and oil reserves, and then the associated natural gas that comes with the oil. The state is an energy exporter. I think there's lots of opportunities for the North Dakota generation industry to support more generation. There's a lot of data, there's a lot of other demand in the upper Midwest that can be served. I don't think that we really view many of those projects as real competition for us.

J.C. Butler: Well, the pipeline, there's multiple pipeline projects being discussed up there in North Dakota. We're not a party to that, so it's hard for me to really comment on the likelihood or any of that. I can tell you that it's an incredibly energy-rich state with tremendous coal and oil reserves, and then the associated natural gas that comes with the oil. The state is an energy exporter. I think there's lots of opportunities for the North Dakota generation industry to support more generation. There's a lot of data, there's a lot of other demand in the upper Midwest that can be served. I don't think that we really view many of those projects as real competition for us.

Speaker #1: I can tell you that it's an incredibly energy-rich state with tremendous coal and oil reserves and then the associated natural gas that comes with the oil.

Speaker #1: The state is an energy exporter. And I think there's lots of opportunities for the North Dakota generation industry to support more generation. There's a lot of data.

Speaker #1: There's a lot of other demand. In the upper Midwest, that can be served. And I don't know I don't think that we really view many of those projects as real competition for us.

Douglas Weiss: Mm-hmm. Okay.

Speaker #4: Okay.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: At the same time, there's also a lot of transmission being developed. Just as there's

J.C. Butler: At the same time, there's also a lot of transmission being developed. Just as there's

Speaker #1: At the same time, there's also a lot of transmission being developed. Just as there's various stages of pipelines being developed, there's a lot of transmission work underway.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: various stages of pipelines being developed, there's a lot of transmission work underway in the upper Midwest, North Dakota and beyond. Which, I think of transmission like a highway system. If you didn't keep expanding your highway system, you'd end up with congestion.

J.C. Butler: various stages of pipelines being developed, there's a lot of transmission work underway in the upper Midwest, North Dakota and beyond. Which, I think of transmission like a highway system. If you didn't keep expanding your highway system, you'd end up with congestion.

Speaker #1: In the upper Midwest, North Dakota and beyond, which you can I think of transmission like a highway system. If you didn't keep expanding your highway system, you'd end up with congestion.

Speaker #1: But if you keep expanding your highway system, which in this case is transmission, you don't really have the congestion problems, and the electrons can get to the markets they need.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: if you keep expanding your highway system, which in this case is transmission, you don't really have the congestion problems, and the electrons can get to the markets they need.

J.C. Butler: if you keep expanding your highway system, which in this case is transmission, you don't really have the congestion problems, and the electrons can get to the markets they need.

Speaker #4: Okay. As you continue your reinvestment program, I'm curious, and I've asked you this from time to time, but I'm curious, if you are seeing better returns on contract mining or oil and gas or mitigation resources, I'm just curious if you have a one of those segments where you are beginning to feel like is the most fruitful place for you to reinvest your capital.

Douglas Weiss: Okay. As you continue your reinvestment program, I'm curious, and I've asked you this from time to time, but I'm curious if you are seeing better returns in contract mining or oil and gas or mitigation resources. I'm just curious if you have one of those segments where you are beginning to feel like is the most fruitful place for you to reinvest your capital.

Speaker #1: Well, I mean, it's an interesting question. It's one where you think about a lot. I would say is we've been on this reinvestment journey for about over 10 years now, with most emphasis coming in the last five.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: Well, it's an interesting question, because it's one we think about a lot. I would say is we've been on this reinvestment journey for about over 10 years now, with most emphasis coming over the last five. I would say is each of our core businesses, as we've been working on investment thesis and business model, we keep refining those models and we keep finding ways where we can capture efficiencies in our own operations, which enhance margins. We have modified contract structures. We've evolved our customer engagement and our customer relationships in ways that are mutually beneficial for them and for us. If we can deliver more value to them, that's a good thing for us. I kind of think of that across all of our core businesses. Over time, we are seeing new ways to enhance each of those.

J.C. Butler: Well, it's an interesting question, because it's one we think about a lot. I would say is we've been on this reinvestment journey for about over 10 years now, with most emphasis coming over the last five. I would say is each of our core businesses, as we've been working on investment thesis and business model, we keep refining those models and we keep finding ways where we can capture efficiencies in our own operations, which enhance margins. We have modified contract structures. We've evolved our customer engagement and our customer relationships in ways that are mutually beneficial for them and for us. If we can deliver more value to them, that's a good thing for us. I kind of think of that across all of our core businesses. Over time, we are seeing new ways to enhance each of those.

Speaker #1: And I would say is each of our core businesses as we've been working on investment thesis and business model we keep refining those models.

Speaker #1: And we keep finding ways where we can capture efficiencies in our own operations, which enhance margins. We have modified contract structures. We've evolved our customer engagement and our customer relationships.

Speaker #1: In ways that are mutually beneficial for them and for us. And if we can deliver more value to them, that's a good thing for us.

Speaker #1: And I kind of think of that across all of our core businesses. And over time, we are seeing new ways to enhance each of those.

Speaker #1: So that's I mean, that's one part of the answer. The other part of the answer is I'm a big believer we're big believers that each of these businesses, these core businesses, has its own attribute that make it attractive to us on its own.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: That's one part of the answer. The other part of the answer is, I'm a big believer, we're big believers that each of these businesses, these core businesses, has its own attributes, that attributes that make it attractive to us on its own. It's also useful to us as part of the collective whole. Our mining business and our mitigation business very clearly benefits from the work that's done in our coal mining business. Honestly, our coal mining business and our mitigation business are benefiting from things that we're doing on the North American Mining side, and they're all helping each other. We call it a one team approach. There's synergies in all of these. I guess the third way I think about this is about the importance of diversification.

J.C. Butler: That's one part of the answer. The other part of the answer is, I'm a big believer, we're big believers that each of these businesses, these core businesses, has its own attributes, that attributes that make it attractive to us on its own. It's also useful to us as part of the collective whole. Our mining business and our mitigation business very clearly benefits from the work that's done in our coal mining business. Honestly, our coal mining business and our mitigation business are benefiting from things that we're doing on the North American Mining side, and they're all helping each other. We call it a one team approach. There's synergies in all of these. I guess the third way I think about this is about the importance of diversification.

Speaker #1: But it's also useful to us as part of the collective whole. Our mining business and our mitigation business very clearly benefit from the work that's done in our coal mining business.

Speaker #1: Honestly, our coal mining business and our mitigation business are benefiting from things that we're doing on the North American mining side. And they're all helping each other.

Speaker #1: We call it a one-team approach. So there's synergies in all of these. And then I guess the third way I think about this is about the importance of diversification.

Speaker #1: We're seeing an energy renaissance in the United States, around fossil fuels. But I want to make sure that we're doing things that are complementary to that, to those businesses.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: We're seeing an energy renaissance in the United States around fossil fuels, I want to make sure that we're doing things that are complementary to those businesses so that we've got strength if, for whatever reason, the political forces really turn back against us. I think that basic consumer demands and industrial demand for electrons are going to help us in that way. There's been a big shift in sentiment the last several years around more generation, not less. I think the improving business models, the synergies between the businesses, and the desire for diversification to create a more stable, very long-term platform for us, lead us to believe that it's really in the best interest of the company and its shareholders to take a diversified approach. That's really how we think about the balanced approach to investing that we've been making.

J.C. Butler: We're seeing an energy renaissance in the United States around fossil fuels, I want to make sure that we're doing things that are complementary to those businesses so that we've got strength if, for whatever reason, the political forces really turn back against us. I think that basic consumer demands and industrial demand for electrons are going to help us in that way. There's been a big shift in sentiment the last several years around more generation, not less. I think the improving business models, the synergies between the businesses, and the desire for diversification to create a more stable, very long-term platform for us, lead us to believe that it's really in the best interest of the company and its shareholders to take a diversified approach. That's really how we think about the balanced approach to investing that we've been making.

Speaker #1: So that we've got strength if for whatever reason the political forces really turn back against us. I think that basic consumer demands and industrial demand for electrons are going to help us in that way.

Speaker #1: There's been a big shift in sediment the last several years, around more generation, not less. But I think the improving business models the synergies between the businesses and the desire for diversification to create a more stable very long-term platform for us lead us to believe that it's really in the best interest of the company and its shareholders to take a diversified approach.

Speaker #1: So that's really how we think about the balanced approach to investing that we've been making.

Douglas Weiss: Mm-hmm. Right. Yeah, makes sense. Looking at your customers on the contract mining side, it does skew towards Cemex at the moment. How much of a priority is it for you to broaden the customer mix over the next few years?

Speaker #4: Right. Yeah, it makes sense. Looking at your customers on the contract mining side, it does skew towards CAMEX at the moment. How much of a priority is it for you to broaden the customer mix over the next few years?

Speaker #1: Yeah, that's a great question. So there's a number of factors at play in this industry. One is we've already got relationships with a number of the large the big players.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: Yeah. That's a great question. There's a number of factors at play in this industry. One is we've already got relationships with a number of the large, the big players. If you think about aggregate production in the United States or cement production, we're doing business with some of the very largest names. We are finding that we are getting more opportunities to do business with them because they see the work that we do at one quarry or a couple of quarries, and they ask us if we would come take a look at another place where they're operating and give them our thoughts on what we could do to help them. Not in every instance, but in a number of instances, that turns into additional projects. We're about to start operating a dragline later this year in Phoenix, Arizona, for an existing customer.

J.C. Butler: Yeah. That's a great question. There's a number of factors at play in this industry. One is we've already got relationships with a number of the large, the big players. If you think about aggregate production in the United States or cement production, we're doing business with some of the very largest names. We are finding that we are getting more opportunities to do business with them because they see the work that we do at one quarry or a couple of quarries, and they ask us if we would come take a look at another place where they're operating and give them our thoughts on what we could do to help them. Not in every instance, but in a number of instances, that turns into additional projects. We're about to start operating a dragline later this year in Phoenix, Arizona, for an existing customer.

Speaker #1: If you think about aggregate production in the United States or cement production, we're doing business with some of the very largest names. We are finding that we are getting more opportunities to do business with them because they see the work that we do at one quarry or a couple of quarries, and they ask us if we would come take a look at another place where they're operating and give them our thoughts on what we could do to help them.

Speaker #1: And not every not in every instance, but in a number of instances, that turns into additional projects. We're about to start operating a drag line later this year in Phoenix, Arizona, for an existing customer.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: That relationship, that contract, and operating at that quarry came about exactly in that way, because we were already doing business with one of the big players. That said, we find that there's geographic relationships. We started in South Florida, with one very successful long-term aggregates producer. Over time, we ended up doing business with a number of people in South Florida. As we went up into Central Florida, which was our first foray, about 10 years ago, with one or two quarry relationships. That's now expanded and we're pushing into other areas across the United States as it seems appropriate. Most of that expansion's happened through our dragline services, where we're providing the mining services for their operations. For the last few years, we've also been using Wirtgen surface miners, in test cases with other operators in other parts of the state.

Speaker #1: And that relationship that contract and operating at that quarry came about exactly in that way. Because we were already doing business with a one of the big players.

J.C. Butler: That relationship, that contract, and operating at that quarry came about exactly in that way, because we were already doing business with one of the big players. That said, we find that there's geographic relationships. We started in South Florida, with one very successful long-term aggregates producer. Over time, we ended up doing business with a number of people in South Florida. As we went up into Central Florida, which was our first foray, about 10 years ago, with one or two quarry relationships. That's now expanded and we're pushing into other areas across the United States as it seems appropriate. Most of that expansion's happened through our dragline services, where we're providing the mining services for their operations. For the last few years, we've also been using Wirtgen surface miners, in test cases with other operators in other parts of the state.

Speaker #1: That said, we're also we find that there's geographic relationships. We started in South Florida with one very successful long-term agri producer. And over time, we ended up doing business with a number of people in South Florida.

Speaker #1: As we went up into central Florida, which was our first foray about 10 years ago, with one or two quarry relationships, that's now expanded and we're pushing into other areas across the United States as it seems appropriate.

Speaker #1: And most of that expansion has happened through our drag line services, where we're providing the mining services for their operations. But for the last few years, we've also been using Birkin surface miners in test cases with other operators in other parts of the state.

Speaker #1: And we're seeing some success. In some instances, it's done what we thought it would do with the customer, but we all approached it as an experiment.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: We're seeing some success. In some instances, it's done what we thought it would do with the customer, but we all approached it as an experiment. Sometimes it's like, okay, well, we all learn something. In other instances, they're like, okay, well, that was really interesting to hear. Can you guys take that piece of equipment to a different quarry and try it there? Because we think it's got real potential.

J.C. Butler: We're seeing some success. In some instances, it's done what we thought it would do with the customer, but we all approached it as an experiment. Sometimes it's like, okay, well, we all learn something. In other instances, they're like, okay, well, that was really interesting to hear. Can you guys take that piece of equipment to a different quarry and try it there? Because we think it's got real potential.

Speaker #1: And sometimes it's like, okay, well, we all learned something. But in other instances, it's like, okay, well, that was really interesting here because you guys take that piece of equipment to a different quarry and try it there because we think it's got real potential.

Speaker #1: So we're seeing lots of opportunities to grow because of the relationships and contracts we got, as well as just being in the neighborhood. It's one of the reasons I'm so enthusiastic about being in the western part of the United States with this Phoenix quarry, as well as our Limerock business or sorry, Lithium.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: We're seeing lots of opportunities to grow because of the relationships and contracts we got, as well as just being in the neighborhood. It's one of the reasons I'm so enthusiastic about being in the western part of the United States with this Phoenix quarry, as well as our lime rock business, or sorry, lithium. We have too many minerals to start with. Our lithium operation in northern Nevada. I guess the other way that we expand is by finding new ways to apply our skills. The Palm Beach County, Florida, project, where we've got a couple of draglines up and running now, we're in the process of commissioning a third dragline, and we've got a fourth dragline that'll be up and running later this year. Putting four draglines on one project is a really big deal. We're very excited about that. It's going well.

J.C. Butler: We're seeing lots of opportunities to grow because of the relationships and contracts we got, as well as just being in the neighborhood. It's one of the reasons I'm so enthusiastic about being in the western part of the United States with this Phoenix quarry, as well as our lime rock business, or sorry, lithium. We have too many minerals to start with. Our lithium operation in northern Nevada. I guess the other way that we expand is by finding new ways to apply our skills. The Palm Beach County, Florida, project, where we've got a couple of draglines up and running now, we're in the process of commissioning a third dragline, and we've got a fourth dragline that'll be up and running later this year. Putting four draglines on one project is a really big deal. We're very excited about that. It's going well.

Speaker #1: We have too many minerals to start with. Our lithium operation in northern Nevada. And I guess the other way that we expand is by finding new ways to apply our skills.

Speaker #1: The Palm Beach County Florida project, where we've got a couple of drag lines up and running now, we're in the process of commissioning a third drag line, and we've got a fourth drag line that'll be up and running later this year.

Speaker #1: Putting four drag lines on one project is a really big deal. We're very excited about that. It's going well. We're still ramping up our operations as we go along, but we feel very good about the trajectory we're on.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: We're still ramping up our operations as we go along, but we feel very good about the trajectory we're on. To me, one of the really exciting things about this is we're not mining the aggregates, the lime rock here for sale as construction materials by an aggregates producer. This is being used by our customer in a big infrastructure project related to Lake Okeechobee and the Everglades, in really infrastructure development. Well, that's kind of opened up a new market for us, in ways that we really hadn't figured out how to tap into this market. This relationship, I think, is going to give us at least opportunities to explore other ways to apply our skills, to help other people that might be in a different part of the work that we do. We can help them, with the same kind of services, but in a different way.

J.C. Butler: We're still ramping up our operations as we go along, but we feel very good about the trajectory we're on. To me, one of the really exciting things about this is we're not mining the aggregates, the lime rock here for sale as construction materials by an aggregates producer. This is being used by our customer in a big infrastructure project related to Lake Okeechobee and the Everglades, in really infrastructure development. Well, that's kind of opened up a new market for us, in ways that we really hadn't figured out how to tap into this market. This relationship, I think, is going to give us at least opportunities to explore other ways to apply our skills, to help other people that might be in a different part of the work that we do. We can help them, with the same kind of services, but in a different way.

Speaker #1: To me, one of the really exciting things about this is we're not mining the aggregates, the Limerock here, for sale as construction materials by an aggregates producer.

Speaker #1: This is being used by our customer in a big infrastructure project related to Lake Okeechobee and the Everglades, and it really is infrastructure development. Well, that's kind of opened up a new market for us in ways that we hadn't really figured out how to tap into before.

Speaker #1: And this relationship, I think, is going to give us at least opportunities to explore other ways to apply our skills to help other people that might be in a different part of the work that we do.

Speaker #1: We can help them with the same kind of services, but in a different way. We're not mining aggregates for sale. We're mining aggregates to support the development of the infrastructure directly.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: We're not mining aggregates for sale. We're mining aggregates to support the development of the infrastructure directly. I talk about this as investment horizon. As we touch more places in this business, it gives us more opportunities for growth. I think those are going to turn into, or I see them turn into expanded opportunities for growth in the future. Very long-winded answer, but it's one I'm really excited about.

J.C. Butler: We're not mining aggregates for sale. We're mining aggregates to support the development of the infrastructure directly. I talk about this as investment horizon. As we touch more places in this business, it gives us more opportunities for growth. I think those are going to turn into, or I see them turn into expanded opportunities for growth in the future. Very long-winded answer, but it's one I'm really excited about.

Speaker #1: So I talk about this as investment horizon as we touch more places in this business. It gives us more opportunities for growth, but I think there's going to return into we're already seeing him turn into expanded opportunities for growth in the future.

Speaker #1: Very long-winded answer, but it's one I'm really excited about.

Speaker #4: Yeah, no, that's great. Just circling quickly on Mississippi, Lignite and maybe you don't want to comment too much on legal issues, but I'm just curious if you're able to articulate what recourse you have a little more granularly.

Douglas Weiss: Yeah. No, that's great. Just circling quickly on Mississippi Lignite, and maybe you don't want to comment too much on legal issues, but I'm just curious if you're able to articulate what recourse you have a little more granularly. Do you have more recourse than a typical unsecured creditor?

Speaker #4: Are you do you have more recourse than a typical one secured creditor?

J.C. Butler, Jr.: You're right. I'm not going to comment on legal strategies. We have, I think, a pretty clear understanding of our contractual rights, and other points of leverage in this relationship. We are very active in understanding those and knowing what those levers are and how those can be deployed. I really don't think it'd be appropriate for me to comment further than that.

J.C. Butler: You're right. I'm not going to comment on legal strategies. We have, I think, a pretty clear understanding of our contractual rights, and other points of leverage in this relationship. We are very active in understanding those and knowing what those levers are and how those can be deployed. I really don't think it'd be appropriate for me to comment further than that.

Speaker #1: I mean, you're right. I'm not going to comment on legal strategies. But we have I think a pretty clear understanding of our contractual rights and other points of leverage in this relationship.

Speaker #1: And we are very active in understanding those and knowing what those levers are and how those can be deployed. But I really I don't think it'd be appropriate for me to comment further than that.

Speaker #4: Okay, fair enough. I think that's all I have. Congrats again on the good quarter, and I look forward to speaking in three months.

Douglas Weiss: Okay, fair enough. I think that's all I have. Congrats again on the good quarter, and I look forward to speaking in three months.

Speaker #1: Great. Doug, we appreciate your ongoing questions.

J.C. Butler, Jr.: Great. Doug, we appreciate your ongoing interest. Thanks for your questions.

J.C. Butler: Great. Doug, we appreciate your ongoing interest. Thanks for your questions.

Speaker #4: Bye-bye.

Operator: Again, to ask a question, simply press star one on your telephone keypad. With no further questions in the queue, I will now turn the call back over to Christy Kmetko for closing remarks.

Speaker #2: Again, to ask a question, simply press star one on your telephone keypad. With no further questions in queue, I will now turn the call back over to Christy Kmetko.

Speaker #2: For closing remarks.

Speaker #5: Okay, thank you. We'll end the Q&A session there. Before we wrap up, I'd just like to provide a few reminders. A replay of our call will be available later this morning.

Christina Kmetko: Okay. Thank you. We'll end the Q&A session there. Before we wrap up, I'd just like to provide a few reminders. A replay of our call will be available later this morning. We'll also post a transcript on our website when it becomes available. If you have any questions, please reach out to me. My phone number is on the earnings release. I hope you enjoy the rest of your day, and I'll turn it back to Tina to conclude the call. Thank you so much.

Speaker #5: We'll also post a transcript on our website when it becomes available. If you have any questions, please reach out to me. My phone number is on the earnings release.

Speaker #5: I hope you enjoy the rest of our day. And I'll turn it back to Tina to conclude the call. Thank you so much.

Operator: Thank you again for joining us today. This does conclude today's conference call. You may now disconnect.

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