Q2 2026 Flutter Entertainment PLC Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Thank you for standing by. My name is Greg, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to today's Flutter Entertainment Q2, 2026 earnings call.
Operator: Thank you for standing by. My name is Greg, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to today's Flutter Entertainment Q2 2026 earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you'd like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. Once again, star one. If you'd like to withdraw your question, simply press star one again. Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Paul Tymms, Group Director of Investor Relations. Paul?
Operator: Thank you for standing by. My name is Greg, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to today's Flutter Entertainment Q2 2026 Earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you'd like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. Once again, star one. If you'd like to withdraw your question, simply press star one again. Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Paul Tymms, Group Director of Investor Relations. Paul?
Speaker #1: All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you'd like to ask a question during this time, simply press star, followed by the number one on your telephone keypad.
Speaker #1: Once again, star one. And if you'd like to withdraw your question, simply press star one again. Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Paul Tymms, Group Director of Investor Relations.
Speaker #1: Paul?
Speaker #2: Hi, everyone, and welcome to Flutter's Q2 update call. With me today are Flutter's CEO, Peter Jackson, and CFO, Rob Coldrake. After this short intro, Peter will open with a summary of our operational progress, and then Rob will go through our Q2 financials and our updated guidance for 2026.
Paul Tymms: Hi everyone, and welcome to Flutter's Q2 update call. With me today are Flutter's CEO, Peter Jackson, and CFO, Rob Coldrake. After this short intro, Peter will open with a summary of our operational progress, and then Rob will go through our Q2 financials and our updated guidance for 2026. We will open the lines for Q&A. Some of the information we are providing today, including our 2026 guidance, constitutes forward-looking statements that involve risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause actual outcomes or results to differ materially from those indicated in these statements. These factors are detailed in our earnings press release and our SEC filings. In addition, all forward-looking statements are based on current expectations, and we undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statement except as required by law. Also, in our remarks or responses to questions, we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures.
Paul Tymms: Hi everyone, and welcome to Flutter's Q2 update call. With me today are Flutter's CEO, Peter Jackson, and CFO, Rob Coldrake. After this short intro, Peter will open with a summary of our operational progress, and then Rob will go through our Q2 financials and our updated guidance for 2026. We will open the lines for Q&A. Some of the information we are providing today, including our 2026 guidance, constitutes forward-looking statements that involve risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause actual outcomes or results to differ materially from those indicated in these statements. These factors are detailed in our earnings press release and our SEC filings. In addition, all forward-looking statements are based on current expectations, and we undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statement except as required by law. Also, in our remarks or responses to questions, we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures.
Speaker #2: We will then open the lines for Q&A. Some of the information we are providing today including our 2026 guidance constitutes forward-looking statements that involve risks, uncertainties, and other factors.
Speaker #2: That could cause actual outcomes or results to differ materially from those indicated in these statements. These factors are detailed in our earnings press release and our SEC filings.
Speaker #2: In addition, all forward-looking statements are based on current expectations, and we undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statement except as required by law.
Speaker #2: Also, in our remarks or responses to questions, we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations are included in the results materials we have released today, available in the Investors section of our website.
Paul Tymms: Reconciliations are included in the results materials we have released today, available in the investors section of our website. I will now hand you over to Peter.
Paul Tymms: Reconciliations are included in the results materials we have released today, available in the investors section of our website. I will now hand you over to Peter.
Speaker #2: I will now hand you over to Peter.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Paul. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Before we get into the results, I wanted to say a few words about the announcement we made this morning.
Peter Jackson: Thank you, Paul. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Before we get into the results, I wanted to say a few words about the announcement we made this morning. After nearly nine years as CEO, this is the right time to hand over to Dan, and I'll be stepping down at the end of September. It's been an enormous privilege to lead this business, and I do so with tremendous confidence in Flutter's future, in the team we've built, and in Dan's leadership. One thing I've always tried to do throughout my time as CEO is to take a long-term view of how we create value for shareholders. That has sometimes meant making decisions that weren't universally welcomed in the moment because we believed they would strengthen the business over the long term.
Peter Jackson: Thank you, Paul. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Before we get into the results, I wanted to say a few words about the announcement we made this morning. After nearly nine years as CEO, this is the right time to hand over to Dan, and I'll be stepping down at the end of September. It's been an enormous privilege to lead this business, and I do so with tremendous confidence in Flutter's future, in the team we've built, and in Dan's leadership. One thing I've always tried to do throughout my time as CEO is to take a long-term view of how we create value for shareholders. That has sometimes meant making decisions that weren't universally welcomed in the moment because we believed they would strengthen the business over the long term.
Speaker #3: After nearly nine years as CEO, this is the right time to hand over to Dan, and I'll be stepping down at the end of September.
Speaker #3: It's been an enormous privilege to lead this business, and I do so with tremendous confidence in Flutter's future. In the team we've built, and in Dan's leadership.
Speaker #3: One thing I've always tried to do throughout my time as CEO is to take a long-term view of how we create value for shareholders.
Speaker #3: That has sometimes meant making decisions that weren't universally welcomed in the moment, because we believed there were strengths in the business over the long term.
Speaker #3: In 2019 and 2020, for example, we continued to invest heavily in Fangio at a time when many questioned those decisions because of the impact on near-term earnings.
Peter Jackson: In 2019 and 2020, for example, we continued to invest heavily in FanDuel at a time when many questioned those decisions because of the impact on near-term earnings. Looking back, those investments proved to be the right thing to do. They strengthened our competitive position and laid the foundations for the business we have today. We're making the same type of decision again today. We see a significant opportunity to invest behind our leadership in US sports betting and iGaming, strengthening our proposition and positioning the business for future growth. We recognize that this weighs on near-term earnings, though we're convinced it's the right thing to do to maximize long-term shareholder value. With that, let me turn to our results. We've delivered an encouraging quarter relative to our expectations, and I'm pleased with the progress we're making across the business.
Peter Jackson: In 2019 and 2020, for example, we continued to invest heavily in FanDuel at a time when many questioned those decisions because of the impact on near-term earnings. Looking back, those investments proved to be the right thing to do. They strengthened our competitive position and laid the foundations for the business we have today. We're making the same type of decision again today. We see a significant opportunity to invest behind our leadership in US sports betting and iGaming, strengthening our proposition and positioning the business for future growth. We recognize that this weighs on near-term earnings, though we're convinced it's the right thing to do to maximize long-term shareholder value. With that, let me turn to our results. We've delivered an encouraging quarter relative to our expectations, and I'm pleased with the progress we're making across the business.
Speaker #3: Looking back, those investments proved to be the right thing to do. They strengthened our competitive position and laid the foundations for the business we have today.
Speaker #3: And we're making the same type of decision again today. We see a significant opportunity to invest behind our leadership in US sports betting and iGaming.
Speaker #3: Strengthening our proposition and positioning the business for future growth. We recognize that this weighs on near-term earnings, but we're convinced it's the right thing to do to maximize long-term shareholder value.
Speaker #3: With that, let me turn to our results. We've delivered an encouraging quarter relative to our expectations, and I'm pleased with the progress we're making across the business.
Speaker #3: In the US, with implemented our new leadership structure, made good progress on our sportsbook improvement plan, and further expanded our prediction market offering and capabilities.
Peter Jackson: In the US, we've implemented our new leadership structure, made good progress on our sportsbook improvement plan, and further expanded our prediction market offering and capabilities. For H2, we'll be delivering an improved value proposition for our customers, a move we believe is critical to strengthening our number one position in the highly competitive US market, aligns with our new customer-first strategy, and better positioning the business for market share gains in 2027 and beyond. During Q2, US revenue was 6% lower year over year, reflecting a 6 percentage point growth impact from customer-friendly sports results as the Knicks' legendary win in June put some cash back in our customers' wallets in time for the World Cup. Customer engagement was excellent throughout the NBA Finals and the FIFA World Cup.
Peter Jackson: In the US, we've implemented our new leadership structure, made good progress on our sportsbook improvement plan, and further expanded our prediction market offering and capabilities. For H2, we'll be delivering an improved value proposition for our customers, a move we believe is critical to strengthening our number one position in the highly competitive US market, aligns with our new customer-first strategy, and better positioning the business for market share gains in 2027 and beyond. During Q2, US revenue was 6% lower year over year, reflecting a 6 percentage point growth impact from customer-friendly sports results as the Knicks' legendary win in June put some cash back in our customers' wallets in time for the World Cup. Customer engagement was excellent throughout the NBA Finals and the FIFA World Cup.
Speaker #3: For H2, we'll be delivering an improved value proposition for our customers, a move we believe is critical to strengthening our number one position in the highly competitive US market.
Speaker #3: This aligns with our new customer-first strategy and better positions the business for market share gains in 2027 and beyond. During Q2, US revenue was 6% lower year over year, reflecting a six percentage point growth impact from customer-friendly sports results.
Speaker #3: As the next legendary win in June, put some cash back in our customers' wallets in time for the World Cup. Customer engagement was excellent throughout the NBA finals, and the FIFA World Cup.
Speaker #3: And even when you adjust for these marky events, underlying sportsbook trends were in line with our expectations, as our sportsbook improvement plan continues to deliver.
Peter Jackson: Even when you adjust for these marquee events, underlying sportsbook trends were in line with our expectations as our sportsbook improvement plan continues to deliver. We continue to see a limited cannibalization impact from prediction markets on our existing customer base in regulated sportsbook states. We believe FanDuel's operational execution and outperformance, both in recent state launches and during key marquee events, confirms the strong demand for traditional sports betting products when sports content is compelling. We expanded our loyalty program to 70% of customers this quarter, which has helped with engagement metrics, with 82% of customers surveyed saying the rewards club improved their experience and more than half saying it lifts their betting activity. We also introduced Bet Protect+, our best-in-market injury protection feature, and enhanced our soccer offering for the World Cup, leveraging the Flutter Edge to offer unique features such as Super Sub.
Peter Jackson: Even when you adjust for these marquee events, underlying sportsbook trends were in line with our expectations as our sportsbook improvement plan continues to deliver. We continue to see a limited cannibalization impact from prediction markets on our existing customer base in regulated sportsbook states. We believe FanDuel's operational execution and outperformance, both in recent state launches and during key marquee events, confirms the strong demand for traditional sports betting products when sports content is compelling. We expanded our loyalty program to 70% of customers this quarter, which has helped with engagement metrics, with 82% of customers surveyed saying the rewards club improved their experience and more than half saying it lifts their betting activity. We also introduced Bet Protect+, our best-in-market injury protection feature, and enhanced our soccer offering for the World Cup, leveraging the Flutter Edge to offer unique features such as Super Sub.
Speaker #3: We continue to see a limited cannibalization impact from prediction markets on our existing customer base, in regulated sportsbook states. And we believe Fangio's operational execution and outperformance both in recent state launches and during key marky events confirms the strong demand for traditional sports betting products when sports content is compelling.
Speaker #3: We expanded our loyalty program to 70% of customers this quarter. Which has helped with engagement metrics. With 82% of customers surveyed saying the rewards club improves their experience and more than half saying it lifts their betting activity.
Speaker #3: We also introduced BetProtect Plus, our best-in-market injury protection feature, and enhanced our soccer offering for the World Cup. Leveraging the Flutter edge to offer unique features such as SuperSup.
Speaker #3: And while Fangio trends have been encouraging, the market continues to be subdued. And we estimate that the market grew by around 5% in H1.
Peter Jackson: While FanDuel trends have been encouraging, the market continues to be subdued, and we estimate that the market grew by around 5% in H1. Although we continue to closely monitor the implications of the growth in prediction markets on the broader online sports betting market, we believe the market is yet to rebound from the disappointing NFL performance experienced in Q4 2025. We firmly believe market growth will ultimately return to higher levels, with more compelling content driving stronger customer engagement, though our forecasts prudently assume market growth rates in H2 will be broadly consistent with those seen in H1. The US leadership changes we recently implemented are working, and we are well-positioned to deliver improved performance through a more competitive customer-led proposition. In fact, the encouraging underlying signs we're seeing give us the confidence to increase generosity to customers and improve our value proposition.
Peter Jackson: While FanDuel trends have been encouraging, the market continues to be subdued, and we estimate that the market grew by around 5% in H1. Although we continue to closely monitor the implications of the growth in prediction markets on the broader online sports betting market, we believe the market is yet to rebound from the disappointing NFL performance experienced in Q4 2025. We firmly believe market growth will ultimately return to higher levels, with more compelling content driving stronger customer engagement, though our forecasts prudently assume market growth rates in H2 will be broadly consistent with those seen in H1. The US leadership changes we recently implemented are working, and we are well-positioned to deliver improved performance through a more competitive customer-led proposition. In fact, the encouraging underlying signs we're seeing give us the confidence to increase generosity to customers and improve our value proposition.
Speaker #3: Although we continue to closely monitor the implications of the growth in prediction markets on the broader online sports betting market, we believe the market has yet to rebound from the disappointing NFL performance experienced in Q4 2025.
Speaker #3: We firmly believe market growth will ultimately return to higher levels, with more compelling content driving stronger customer engagement. There are forecasts prudently assume market growth rates in H2 will be broadly consistent with those seen in the first half.
Speaker #3: The US leadership changes we recently implemented are working, and we are well positioned to deliver improved performance through a more competitive, customer-led proposition. In fact, the encouraging underlying signs we are seeing, give us the confidence to increase generosity to customers and improve our value proposition.
Speaker #3: And while this proactive action will result in a reduction in near-term profitability, investing behind customer momentum is an approach that has consistently served us well.
Peter Jackson: While this proactive action will result in a reduction in near-term profitability, investing behind customer momentum is an approach that has consistently served us well. This momentum and the current market dynamics mean now is the right time to move from a focus on margin growth to prioritizing AMPs and growing ARPU. This will position us well to extend our leadership in the US market and capture further share in 2027. Turning now to prediction markets. We view prediction markets as an attractive opportunity, and while we are closely monitoring their impact on the broader online sports betting market, we continue to see prediction markets as incremental to sports betting and iGaming, growing the overall market by capturing new demand. Our own prediction market offering, FanDuel Predicts, allows us to acquire customers ahead of sports betting regulation in new states while delivering incremental economics in the meantime.
Peter Jackson: While this proactive action will result in a reduction in near-term profitability, investing behind customer momentum is an approach that has consistently served us well. This momentum and the current market dynamics mean now is the right time to move from a focus on margin growth to prioritizing AMPs and growing ARPU. This will position us well to extend our leadership in the US market and capture further share in 2027. Turning now to prediction markets. We view prediction markets as an attractive opportunity, and while we are closely monitoring their impact on the broader online sports betting market, we continue to see prediction markets as incremental to sports betting and iGaming, growing the overall market by capturing new demand. Our own prediction market offering, FanDuel Predicts, allows us to acquire customers ahead of sports betting regulation in new states while delivering incremental economics in the meantime.
Speaker #3: This momentum and the current market dynamics mean now is the right time to move from a focus on margin growth to prioritizing amps and growing ARPU.
Speaker #3: This will position us well to extend our leadership in the US market and capture further share in 2027. Turning now to prediction markets. We view prediction markets as an attractive opportunity, and while we are closely monitoring their impact on the broader online sports betting market, we continue to see prediction markets as incremental to sports betting and iGaming, growing the overall market by capturing new demand.
Speaker #3: Our own prediction market offering, Fangio Predicts, allows us to acquire customers ahead of sports betting regulation in new states, while delivering incremental economics in the meantime.
Speaker #3: And while operational progress in H1 was slower than planned, we are gaining traction and have a clear roadmap for improvement. The integration of the crypto.com exchange to expand our sports offering ahead of the FIFA World Cup has significantly enhanced our product proposition.
Peter Jackson: While operational progress in H1 was slower than planned, we are gaining traction and have a clear roadmap for improvement. The integration of the Crypto.com exchange to expand our sports offering ahead of the FIFA World Cup has significantly enhanced our product proposition. In coordination with CME, we have agreed that all FanDuel Predicts sports and novelty contracts will now be moved to Crypto.com while continuing to provide our customers access to CME's extensive financial markets. This new exchange arrangement will ensure we can deliver new products at pace ahead of the NFL season start. Our One App offering is also enabling us to leverage FanDuel's nationwide brand equity, driving both accelerated penetration and marketing efficiencies. We believe we are also uniquely positioned to provide liquidity for combination markets across different prediction market platforms with a market-making offering that can scale rapidly and at low incremental investment.
Peter Jackson: While operational progress in H1 was slower than planned, we are gaining traction and have a clear roadmap for improvement. The integration of the Crypto.com exchange to expand our sports offering ahead of the FIFA World Cup has significantly enhanced our product proposition. In coordination with CME, we have agreed that all FanDuel Predicts sports and novelty contracts will now be moved to Crypto.com while continuing to provide our customers access to CME's extensive financial markets. This new exchange arrangement will ensure we can deliver new products at pace ahead of the NFL season start. Our One App offering is also enabling us to leverage FanDuel's nationwide brand equity, driving both accelerated penetration and marketing efficiencies. We believe we are also uniquely positioned to provide liquidity for combination markets across different prediction market platforms with a market-making offering that can scale rapidly and at low incremental investment.
Speaker #3: And in coordination with CME, we have agreed that all Fangio Predicts sports and loyalty contracts will now be moved to crypto.com, while continuing to provide our customers access to CME's extensive financial markets.
Speaker #3: This new exchange arrangement will ensure we can deliver new products at pace ahead of the NFL season start. Our one-app offering is also enabling us to leverage Fangio's nationwide brand equity driving both accelerated penetration and marketing efficiencies.
Speaker #3: We believe we are also uniquely positioned to provide liquidity for combination markets across different prediction market platforms, with a market-making offering that can scale rapidly and at low incremental investment.
Speaker #3: It is very early days, but we already expect to generate approximately $50 million of revenue from market-making this year, demonstrating both the good progress made so far and the potential opportunity.
Peter Jackson: It is very early days, we already expect to generate approximately GBP 50 million of revenue from market making this year, demonstrating both the good progress made so far and the potential opportunity. Turning now to international. We have made good progress in the quarter. We have strengthened our market-leading position in Italy and leveraged the power of the Flutter Edge to drive record engagement during the World Cup. As a result, revenue grew 10%, including the benefit of our Snai and Betnacional acquisitions. AMP growth in the quarter was impacted by the closure of our India business last year. Italy continues to deliver exceptional levels of growth across both sportsbook and iGaming, and our revenue performance continues to outpace the market as we extend our market leadership. This was despite the short-term impact from the Snai migration, which we successfully completed back in April.
Peter Jackson: It is very early days, we already expect to generate approximately GBP 50 million of revenue from market making this year, demonstrating both the good progress made so far and the potential opportunity. Turning now to international. We have made good progress in the quarter. We have strengthened our market-leading position in Italy and leveraged the power of the Flutter Edge to drive record engagement during the World Cup. As a result, revenue grew 10%, including the benefit of our Snai and Betnacional acquisitions. AMP growth in the quarter was impacted by the closure of our India business last year. Italy continues to deliver exceptional levels of growth across both sportsbook and iGaming, and our revenue performance continues to outpace the market as we extend our market leadership. This was despite the short-term impact from the Snai migration, which we successfully completed back in April.
Speaker #3: Turning now to international. We've made good progress in the quarter, with strengthened our market-leading position in Italy and leveraged the power of the Flutter edge to drive record engagement during the World Cup.
Speaker #3: As a result, revenue grew 10%, including the benefit of our SNI and Bet National acquisitions. Amp growth in the quarter was impacted by the closure of our India business last year.
Speaker #3: Italy continues to deliver exceptional levels of growth across both Sportsbook and iGaming, and our revenue performance continues to outpace the market as we extend our market leadership.
Speaker #3: This was despite the short-term impact from the SNI migration, which we successfully completed back in April. As expected, the migration resulted in a brief period of share loss.
Peter Jackson: As expected, the migration resulted in a brief period of share loss, but performance recovered strongly in June as customers embraced a significantly expanded product offering, with AMPs increasing 30% in June and strong parlay penetration during the World Cup. SEA iGaming revenues were up 34%, driven by new and exclusive content in Italy and an expanded product offer in Turkey. The post-migration recovery in Snai and the strength of our H1 performance in both Italy and Turkey give us confidence in sustaining this strong growth in the H2. In UKI, Sky Bet customers are adapting well to the new highly-rated user interface, driving a sequential improvement in Sky Bet performance, while overall iGaming growth in the UKI remains robust at 7%. The increase in UK iGaming tax became effective in April.
Peter Jackson: As expected, the migration resulted in a brief period of share loss, but performance recovered strongly in June as customers embraced a significantly expanded product offering, with AMPs increasing 30% in June and strong parlay penetration during the World Cup. SEA iGaming revenues were up 34%, driven by new and exclusive content in Italy and an expanded product offer in Turkey. The post-migration recovery in Snai and the strength of our H1 performance in both Italy and Turkey give us confidence in sustaining this strong growth in the H2. In UKI, Sky Bet customers are adapting well to the new highly-rated user interface, driving a sequential improvement in Sky Bet performance, while overall iGaming growth in the UKI remains robust at 7%. The increase in UK iGaming tax became effective in April.
Speaker #3: But performance recovered strongly in June, as customers embraced a significant expanded product offering. With amps increasing 30% in June and strong parlay penetration during the World Cup.
Speaker #3: SEA iGaming revenues were up 34%, driven by new and exclusive content in Italy and an expanded product offer in Turkey. The post-migration recovery in SNI and the strength of our first-half performance in both Italy and Turkey give us confidence in sustaining this strong growth in the second half.
Speaker #3: In the UKI, Skybet customers are adapting well to the new highly rated user interface, driving a sequential improvement in Skybet performance, while overall iGaming growth in the UKI remains robust at 7%.
Speaker #3: The increase in UK iGaming tax became effective in April, as a leading operator in the market, we are confident in the delivery of our first-order cost savings and in our ability to gain share as other operators begin to react to these increases.
Peter Jackson: As a leading operator in the market, we are confident in the delivery of our first-order cost savings and in our ability to gain share as other operators begin to react to this increase. In Brazil, good operational progress, including the integration of Flutter's product and pricing capabilities into our local platform, was offset by more challenging market conditions driven by government socioeconomic measures. This resulted in Flutter Brazil organic revenue declining year over year in line with the market. We will continue to enhance our sportsbook product offering with further product rollouts enabled by the integration and improve iGaming generosity mechanics in the H2. Brazil remains an attractive long-term opportunity, and we are focused on building a market-leading platform that scales our customer base and delivers strong returns.
Peter Jackson: As a leading operator in the market, we are confident in the delivery of our first-order cost savings and in our ability to gain share as other operators begin to react to this increase. In Brazil, good operational progress, including the integration of Flutter's product and pricing capabilities into our local platform, was offset by more challenging market conditions driven by government socioeconomic measures. This resulted in Flutter Brazil organic revenue declining year over year in line with the market. We will continue to enhance our sportsbook product offering with further product rollouts enabled by the integration and improve iGaming generosity mechanics in the H2. Brazil remains an attractive long-term opportunity, and we are focused on building a market-leading platform that scales our customer base and delivers strong returns.
Speaker #3: In Brazil, good operational progress, including the integration of Flutter's product and pricing capabilities into our local platform, was offset by more challenging market conditions, driven by government social economic measures.
Speaker #3: This resulted in Flutter Brazil organic revenue declining year over year, in line with the market. We will continue to enhance our sportsbook product offering with further product rollouts enabled by the integration and improve iGaming generosity mechanics in the second half of the year.
Speaker #3: Brazil remains an attractive long-term opportunity, and we are focused on building a market-leading platform that scales our customer base and delivers strong returns. Our performance in APAC was broadly in line with expectations, with positive performance in key sports while setting continued softness in racing.
Peter Jackson: Our performance in APAC was broadly in line with expectations, with positive performance in key sports offsetting continued softness in racing. While excellent execution in CEE saw us gain market share in all of our main markets. Finally, we have also announced today that we have initiated the next phase of Flutter's cost transformation, reshaping our cost base to fund our next stage of growth. Rob Coldrake will cover this in more detail shortly. To close, I am encouraged by the progress we have made in Q2. In the US, we are delivering continued sequential improvement in key sportsbook metrics alongside sustained iGaming growth. The new US leadership team is driving a renewed customer-first approach, and our proactive investment will help place us in the best possible position for growth in 2027. Within international, we are executing at pace, and Flutter Edge-enabled product improvements are driving our momentum in the H2.
Peter Jackson: Our performance in APAC was broadly in line with expectations, with positive performance in key sports offsetting continued softness in racing. While excellent execution in CEE saw us gain market share in all of our main markets. Finally, we have also announced today that we have initiated the next phase of Flutter's cost transformation, reshaping our cost base to fund our next stage of growth. Rob Coldrake will cover this in more detail shortly. To close, I am encouraged by the progress we have made in Q2. In the US, we are delivering continued sequential improvement in key sportsbook metrics alongside sustained iGaming growth. The new US leadership team is driving a renewed customer-first approach, and our proactive investment will help place us in the best possible position for growth in 2027. Within international, we are executing at pace, and Flutter Edge-enabled product improvements are driving our momentum in the H2.
Speaker #3: And while excellent execution in CEE saw us gain market share in all of our main markets. And finally, we've also announced today that we've initiated the next phase of Flutter's cost transformation, reshaping our cost base to fund our next stage of growth.
Speaker #3: Rob will cover this in more detail shortly. To close, I'm encouraged by the progress we've made in Q2. In the US, we're delivering continued sequential improvement in key sportsbook metrics alongside sustained iGaming growth.
Speaker #3: The new US leadership team is driving a renewed customer-first approach, and our proactive investment will help place us in the best possible position for growth in 2027.
Speaker #3: Within international, we are executing at pace, and Flutter edge enabled product improvements are driving our momentum in the second half. I'm confident that the choices we're making today from investing in the US to expanding our team with Fangio Predicts and market-making, strengthening our international businesses, and advancing the next phase of cost transformation will deliver sustainable, long-term value for our shoulders.
Peter Jackson: I'm confident that the choices we're making today, from investing in the US to expanding our term with FanDuel Predicts and market making, strengthening our international businesses, and advancing the next phase of cost transformation, will deliver sustainable long-term value for our shareholders. With that, I'll hand over to Rob.
Peter Jackson: I'm confident that the choices we're making today, from investing in the US to expanding our term with FanDuel Predicts and market making, strengthening our international businesses, and advancing the next phase of cost transformation, will deliver sustainable long-term value for our shareholders. With that, I'll hand over to Rob.
Speaker #3: And with that, I'll hand over to Rob.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Peter, and good morning, everyone. Q2 performance was ahead of expectations, with revenue growth of 3%, reflecting the benefit of M&A and excellent engagement during the FIFA World Cup across the US and international.
Rob Coldrake: Thanks, Peter. Good morning, everyone. Q2 performance was ahead of expectations with revenue growth of 3%, reflecting the benefit of M&A and excellent engagement during the FIFA World Cup across the US and international. This was partly offset by an adverse swing in US sports results year over year. The increase in UK gaming taxes and planned investments in both prediction markets and World Cup marketing resulted in adjusted EBITDA declining 45%. A net loss of GBP 296 million for the quarter versus a net income of GBP 37 million in Q2 2025 was primarily driven by the reduction in segment profitability and one-off historical tax costs of GBP 95 million. These were partially offset by an improvement of GBP 81 million and GBP 171 million in other income, expense, and taxation respectively.
Rob Coldrake: Thanks, Peter. Good morning, everyone. Q2 performance was ahead of expectations with revenue growth of 3%, reflecting the benefit of M&A and excellent engagement during the FIFA World Cup across the US and international. This was partly offset by an adverse swing in US sports results year over year. The increase in UK gaming taxes and planned investments in both prediction markets and World Cup marketing resulted in adjusted EBITDA declining 45%. A net loss of GBP 296 million for the quarter versus a net income of GBP 37 million in Q2 2025 was primarily driven by the reduction in segment profitability and one-off historical tax costs of GBP 95 million. These were partially offset by an improvement of GBP 81 million and GBP 171 million in other income, expense, and taxation respectively.
Speaker #2: This was partly offset by an adverse swing in US sports results year over year. The increase in UK gaming taxes and planned investments in both prediction markets and World Cup marketing resulted in adjusted EBITDA declining 45%.
Speaker #2: A net loss of $296 million for the quarter versus a net income of $37 million in Q2 2025 was primarily driven by the reduction in segment profitability and one-off historical tax costs of $95 million.
Speaker #2: These were partially offset by an improvement of $81 million and $171 million in other income/expense and taxation respectively. Loss per share and adjusted loss per share declined to $1.57 and $49 cents respectively, reflecting these profitability factors and a non-controlling interest benefit.
Rob Coldrake: Loss per share and adjusted loss per share declined to GBP 1.57 and GBP 0.49 respectively, reflecting these profitability factors and a non-controlling interest benefit. Net cash provided by operating activities increased by GBP 4 million with the increased net loss in the quarter offset by the benefit of an increase in other current liabilities, including the impact of UK gaming tax increase, historical tax cost provisions, and a positive swing in player deposit liabilities. As a result, free cash flow, including financing CapEx and excluding player funds, reduced by 56% year over year. We ended Q2 with a leverage ratio of 4.3x. We expect our H2 cash generation will drive a reduction in leverage by the end of 2026. We continue to prioritize organic investment in our core business and strategic initiatives, including emerging opportunities such as prediction markets, while also maintaining a clear focus on de-leveraging the balance sheet.
Rob Coldrake: Loss per share and adjusted loss per share declined to GBP 1.57 and GBP 0.49 respectively, reflecting these profitability factors and a non-controlling interest benefit. Net cash provided by operating activities increased by GBP 4 million with the increased net loss in the quarter offset by the benefit of an increase in other current liabilities, including the impact of UK gaming tax increase, historical tax cost provisions, and a positive swing in player deposit liabilities. As a result, free cash flow, including financing CapEx and excluding player funds, reduced by 56% year over year. We ended Q2 with a leverage ratio of 4.3x. We expect our H2 cash generation will drive a reduction in leverage by the end of 2026. We continue to prioritize organic investment in our core business and strategic initiatives, including emerging opportunities such as prediction markets, while also maintaining a clear focus on de-leveraging the balance sheet.
Speaker #2: Net cash provided by operating activities increased by $4 million with the increased net loss in the quarter offset by the benefit of an increase in other current liabilities, including the impact of UK gaming tax increase, historical tax cost provisions, and a positive swing in player deposit liabilities.
Speaker #2: As a result, free cash flow, including financing capex and excluding player funds, reduced by 56% year over year. We ended Q2 with a leverage ratio of 4.3x We expect our second-half cash generation will drive a reduction in leverage by the end of 2026.
Speaker #2: We continue to prioritize organic investment in our core business and strategic initiatives, including emerging opportunities such as prediction markets, while also maintaining a clear focus on de-leveraging the balance sheet.
Speaker #2: We expect to return to our target leverage range of 2.0 to 2.5x in the medium term, consistent with our stated policy, with exact timing dependent on the cadence of our strategic investments.
Rob Coldrake: We expect to return to our target leverage range of 2x to 2.5x in the medium term, consistent with our stated policy, with exact timing dependent on the cadence of our strategic investments. Moving now to our group-wide cost transformation program. Phase I of our program is delivering ahead of expectations. We are on track to deliver in excess of the previously guided GBP 300 million of savings by 2027, and GBP 200 million of additional cost savings that were announced as part of our UK gaming tax mitigation plans, also expected to be delivered in 2027. Building on this significant progress, we have initiated the next phase of Flutter's cost transformation. Phase II reflects a broader program to reshape our cost base, build a more efficient, resilient cost structure for the long term, and protect profitability.
Rob Coldrake: We expect to return to our target leverage range of 2x to 2.5x in the medium term, consistent with our stated policy, with exact timing dependent on the cadence of our strategic investments. Moving now to our group-wide cost transformation program. Phase I of our program is delivering ahead of expectations. We are on track to deliver in excess of the previously guided GBP 300 million of savings by 2027, and GBP 200 million of additional cost savings that were announced as part of our UK gaming tax mitigation plans, also expected to be delivered in 2027. Building on this significant progress, we have initiated the next phase of Flutter's cost transformation. Phase II reflects a broader program to reshape our cost base, build a more efficient, resilient cost structure for the long term, and protect profitability.
Speaker #2: Moving now to our group-wide cost transformation program. Phase one of our program is delivering ahead of expectations, we are on track to deliver in excess of the previously guided $300 million of savings by 2027.
Speaker #2: And $200 million of additional cost savings that were announced as part of our UK gaming tax mitigation plans also expected to be delivered in 2027.
Speaker #2: Building on this significant progress, we have initiated the next phase of Flutter's cost transformation. Phase two reflects a broader program to reshape our cost base build a more efficient, resilient cost structure for the long term, and protect profitability.
Speaker #2: Through removing duplication, delivering technology efficiencies, and leveraging AI, this cost action will reflect an evolution in how Flutter operates—leveraging our global scale while still maintaining a fundamental local focus on the customer.
Rob Coldrake: Through removing duplication, delivering technology efficiencies, and leveraging AI, this cost action will reflect an evolution in how Flutter operates, leveraging our global scale while still maintaining a fundamental local focus on the customer. We expect phase II to deliver an additional GBP 500 million of gross savings by 2029, providing the headroom to absorb inflationary pressures and known tax headwinds, while freeing up capacity to invest in revenue-generating initiatives. In the US, we believe that this will ensure the business is well-positioned for its next stage of growth. In international, we expect that the benefits will underpin our 5% to 10% revenue growth algorithm by both protecting adjusted EBITDA margins in more mature markets and enabling investment in growth areas. These actions are also expected to drive a meaningful improvement in cash generation. Our plans are progressing well.
Rob Coldrake: Through removing duplication, delivering technology efficiencies, and leveraging AI, this cost action will reflect an evolution in how Flutter operates, leveraging our global scale while still maintaining a fundamental local focus on the customer. We expect phase II to deliver an additional GBP 500 million of gross savings by 2029, providing the headroom to absorb inflationary pressures and known tax headwinds, while freeing up capacity to invest in revenue-generating initiatives. In the US, we believe that this will ensure the business is well-positioned for its next stage of growth. In international, we expect that the benefits will underpin our 5% to 10% revenue growth algorithm by both protecting adjusted EBITDA margins in more mature markets and enabling investment in growth areas. These actions are also expected to drive a meaningful improvement in cash generation. Our plans are progressing well.
Speaker #2: We expect phase two to deliver an additional $500 million of gross savings by 2029, providing the headroom to absorb inflationary pressures and known tax headwinds, whilst freeing up capacity to invest in revenue-generating initiatives.
Speaker #2: In the US, we believe that this will ensure the business is well positioned for its next stage of growth. In international, we expect that the benefits will underpin our 5 to 10% revenue growth algorithm, by both protecting, adjusted EBITDA margins in more mature markets, and enabling investment in growth areas.
Speaker #2: These actions are also expected to drive a meaningful improvement in cash generation. Our plans are progressing well, and we will be in a position to share more details of our Q3 results in November.
Rob Coldrake: We will be in a position to share more details of our Q3 results in November. Moving now to our 2026 outlook. Early Q3 trading was ahead of expectations, reflecting good engagement in the knockout stages of the FIFA World Cup and slightly favorable sports results. Full-year guidance is therefore updated to reflect positive impact of Q2 trading in US and international, expected market-making revenue, and adjusted EBITDA benefit of GBP 50 million. Additional operating cost savings of GBP 45 million delivered through our efficiency program in the US. The impact of confirmed one-week delay to the 2026/2027 NFL season start, not previously captured in guidance of GBP 75 million revenue and GBP 50 million adjusted EBITDA. Investment to strengthen our proposition and accelerate FanDuel's sports momentum, as Peter outlined earlier, and forward FX rates in international.
Rob Coldrake: We will be in a position to share more details of our Q3 results in November. Moving now to our 2026 outlook. Early Q3 trading was ahead of expectations, reflecting good engagement in the knockout stages of the FIFA World Cup and slightly favorable sports results. Full-year guidance is therefore updated to reflect positive impact of Q2 trading in US and international, expected market-making revenue, and adjusted EBITDA benefit of GBP 50 million. Additional operating cost savings of GBP 45 million delivered through our efficiency program in the US. The impact of confirmed one-week delay to the 2026/2027 NFL season start, not previously captured in guidance of GBP 75 million revenue and GBP 50 million adjusted EBITDA. Investment to strengthen our proposition and accelerate FanDuel's sports momentum, as Peter outlined earlier, and forward FX rates in international.
Speaker #2: Moving now to our 2026 outlook. Early Q3 trading was ahead of expectations, reflecting good engagement in the knockout stages of the FIFA World Cup and slightly favorable sports results.
Speaker #2: Full-year guidance is therefore updated to reflect positive impact of Q2 trading in US and international. Expected market-making revenue and adjusted EBITDA benefit of $50 million Additional operating cost savings of $45 million delivered through our efficiency program in the US The impact of confirmed one-week delay to the 2026-2027 NFL season start, not previously capturing guidance of $75 million revenue and $50 million adjusted EBITDA.
Speaker #2: Investment to strengthen our proposition and accelerate Fangio's sports momentum as Peter outlined earlier. And forward FX rates in international. These movements result in a reduction to our full-year group revenue guidance of $395 million to $17.91 billion at the midpoint, and a reduction of our adjusted EBITDA guidance of $210 million to $2.655 billion at the midpoint.
Rob Coldrake: These movements result in a reduction to our full-year group revenue guidance of $395 million to $17.91 billion at the midpoint, and a reduction of our adjusted EBITDA guidance of $210 million to $2.655 billion at the midpoint. We've also improved our capital expenditure guidance to GBP 815 million to reflect incremental project efficiencies, also resulting in a reduction in depreciation and amortization guidance to GBP 730 million. Additionally, group transaction restructuring and integration costs will be approximately GBP 500 million, reflecting an increase of approximately GBP 200 million from our previous expectations, primarily due to the initial cost to implement our 2026 cost efficiency programs and tax provisions of GBP 95 million relating to historical India and US sales and use tax exposures. Additional detail on our guidance is available in today's release. Before I close, I'd like to acknowledge and thank Peter.
Rob Coldrake: These movements result in a reduction to our full-year group revenue guidance of $395 million to $17.91 billion at the midpoint, and a reduction of our adjusted EBITDA guidance of $210 million to $2.655 billion at the midpoint. We've also improved our capital expenditure guidance to GBP 815 million to reflect incremental project efficiencies, also resulting in a reduction in depreciation and amortization guidance to GBP 730 million. Additionally, group transaction restructuring and integration costs will be approximately GBP 500 million, reflecting an increase of approximately GBP 200 million from our previous expectations, primarily due to the initial cost to implement our 2026 cost efficiency programs and tax provisions of GBP 95 million relating to historical India and US sales and use tax exposures. Additional detail on our guidance is available in today's release. Before I close, I'd like to acknowledge and thank Peter.
Speaker #2: We've also improved our capital expenditure guidance to $815 million, to reflect incremental project efficiencies also resulting in a reduction in depreciation and amortization guidance to $730 million.
Speaker #2: Additionally, group transaction restructuring and integration costs will be approximately $500 million. Reflecting an increase of approximately $200 million from our previous expectations. Primarily due to the initial cost to implement our 2026 cost efficiency programs, and tax provisions of $95 million relating to historical India and US sales and use tax exposures.
Speaker #2: Additional detail on our guidance is available in today's release. Before I close, I'd like to acknowledge and thank Peter. His leadership over the past nine years has been instrumental in building Flutter into the global leader it is today.
Rob Coldrake: His leadership over the past nine years has been instrumental in building Flutter into the global leader it is today. On a personal note, I've greatly valued his support and advice since becoming CFO, and I'm incredibly grateful for his partnership. Having worked closely with Dan over the past six years, I'm equally confident that we have the right leader for the next phase of Flutter's journey. He knows our business exceptionally well, has played a central role in shaping our strategy, is ideally placed to lead the company as we continue to execute our strategy and deliver sustainable long-term shareholder value. In closing, I'm really encouraged by the momentum we've built through H1, and in particular, during the FIFA World Cup, which give me confidence in delivering our H2 guidance. Peter and I are now happy to take your questions.
Rob Coldrake: His leadership over the past nine years has been instrumental in building Flutter into the global leader it is today. On a personal note, I've greatly valued his support and advice since becoming CFO, and I'm incredibly grateful for his partnership. Having worked closely with Dan over the past six years, I'm equally confident that we have the right leader for the next phase of Flutter's journey. He knows our business exceptionally well, has played a central role in shaping our strategy, is ideally placed to lead the company as we continue to execute our strategy and deliver sustainable long-term shareholder value. In closing, I'm really encouraged by the momentum we've built through H1, and in particular, during the FIFA World Cup, which give me confidence in delivering our H2 guidance. Peter and I are now happy to take your questions.
Speaker #2: On a personal note, I've greatly valued his support and advice since becoming CFO, and I'm incredibly grateful for his partnership. Having worked closely with Dan over the past six years, I'm equally confident that we have the right leader for the next phase of Flutter's journey.
Speaker #2: He knows our business exceptionally well, has played a central role in shaping our strategy, is ideally placed to lead the company, as we can continue to execute our strategy and deliver sustainable long-term shareholder value.
Speaker #2: In closing, I'm really encouraged by the momentum we've built through H1, and in particular during the FIFA World Cup, which give me confidence in delivering our second half guidance.
Speaker #2: Peter and I are now happy to take your questions.
Speaker #1: Thank you. And at this time, I would like to remind everyone that in order to ask a question, please press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad.
Operator: Thank you. At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press star then number 1 on your telephone keypad. Once again, star 1. In the interest of time, we ask that you please limit yourself to two questions. We will pause just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. All right. Looks like our first question today comes from the line of Ed Young with Morgan Stanley. Ed, please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press star then number 1 on your telephone keypad. Once again, star 1. In the interest of time, we ask that you please limit yourself to two questions. We will pause just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. All right. Looks like our first question today comes from the line of Ed Young with Morgan Stanley. Ed, please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Once again, Star One. In the interest of time, we ask that you please limit yourself to two questions. We will pause just a moment to compile the Q&A roster.
Speaker #1: All right. Looks like our first question today comes from the line of Ed Young with Morgan Stanley. Ed, please go ahead.
Speaker #3: Thank you. Good afternoon. My first question is on the additional $270 million of EBITDA investment you're putting into the US business. Can you give us some color on how we should think about the components of that?
Ed Young: Thank you. Good afternoon. My first question's on the additional GBP 270 million of EBITDA investment you're putting into the US business. Can you give us some color on how we should think about the components on that? Obviously on promotions, you've launched the new loyalty scheme. There was some events noise in Q2, but you're already at 540 basis points of promo spend. Some thoughts on that. Then in marketing, similarly, how would you think about the CAC to LTV that you're putting on the incremental marketing dollars you intend to put to work in the current competitive environment? Then my second question, Peter, in your written remarks, you mentioned, I think you reiterated it in your verbal remarks as well, about long-term thinking in the business. In your letter, you noted you're convinced Dan shares a similar mentality.
Ed Young: Thank you. Good afternoon. My first question's on the additional GBP 270 million of EBITDA investment you're putting into the US business. Can you give us some color on how we should think about the components on that? Obviously on promotions, you've launched the new loyalty scheme. There was some events noise in Q2, but you're already at 540 basis points of promo spend. Some thoughts on that. Then in marketing, similarly, how would you think about the CAC to LTV that you're putting on the incremental marketing dollars you intend to put to work in the current competitive environment? Then my second question, Peter, in your written remarks, you mentioned, I think you reiterated it in your verbal remarks as well, about long-term thinking in the business. In your letter, you noted you're convinced Dan shares a similar mentality.
Speaker #3: Because obviously, on promotions, you've launched a new novelty scheme. There were some events noise in Q2, but you're already at $540 basis points for promo spend.
Speaker #3: So some thoughts on that. And then on marketing, similarly, how would you think about the CAC 12 TV that you're putting on the incremental marketing dollars you intend to put to work in the current competitive environment?
Speaker #3: And then my second question, Peter, in your written remarks, you mentioned I think you reiterated it in your verbal remarks as well about long-term thinking the business.
Speaker #3: In your letter, you noted you're convinced Dan shares a similar mentality. I guess, given your expectations for a mid-single-digit growing market in the US—at least for now—how do you weigh up the argument that some of your international markets might be as or more deserving of incremental investment than the US?
Ed Young: I guess, given your expectations for a mid-single-digit growing market in the US, at least for now, how do you weigh up the argument that some of your international markets might be as or more deserving of incremental investment than the US? Thanks.
Ed Young: I guess, given your expectations for a mid-single-digit growing market in the US, at least for now, how do you weigh up the argument that some of your international markets might be as or more deserving of incremental investment than the US? Thanks.
Speaker #3: Thanks.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Ed. No, I think what we have to focus on is the Sportsbook Improvement Plan and the great progress we're seeing on that at the moment in FanDuel.
Peter Jackson: Thanks, Ed. No, I think what we have to focus on is the sportsbook improvement plan and the great progress we're seeing on that at the moment in FanDuel. If I think about the growth we saw in handle around the NBA Finals, we're up sort of 40% year-over-year per game, actives up 25% year-over-year. 2.3 million customers engaged in the World Cup, a third of which had been reactivated. In recent trading, I think we've seen some record weeks from an MLB perspective. Yeah, I feel like we've got good momentum in FanDuel. The sportsbook improvement plan is working. The changes we've made to loyalty. There's a generosity posture from a product perspective, things like Bet Protect. Of course, we brought Super Sub here in FanDuel around the World Cup.
Peter Jackson: Thanks, Ed. No, I think what we have to focus on is the sportsbook improvement plan and the great progress we're seeing on that at the moment in FanDuel. If I think about the growth we saw in handle around the NBA Finals, we're up sort of 40% year-over-year per game, actives up 25% year-over-year. 2.3 million customers engaged in the World Cup, a third of which had been reactivated. In recent trading, I think we've seen some record weeks from an MLB perspective. Yeah, I feel like we've got good momentum in FanDuel. The sportsbook improvement plan is working. The changes we've made to loyalty. There's a generosity posture from a product perspective, things like Bet Protect. Of course, we brought Super Sub here in FanDuel around the World Cup.
Speaker #2: If I think about the growth we saw in handle around the NBA finals where up sort of 40% year over year per game, actors up 25% year over year, 2.3 million customers engaged in the World Cup, a third of which had been reactivated.
Speaker #2: And in recent trading, I think we've seen sort of record weeks for from an MLB perspective. So yeah, I feel like we've got good momentum in Fangio.
Speaker #2: The sportsbook improvement plan is working the changes we've made to loyalty, the sort of generosity posture from a product perspective, things like better protect and of course we brought super sub here in Fangio around the World Cup.
Peter Jackson: There's good momentum in the business, and I think what we've always found before is that when we've got great content, great product, we've invested behind it and it's helped build a bigger business for the future. That's what we're intending to do, is we want to invest behind the momentum we're seeing at the moment. Rob, I don't know whether you want to pick up on the specifics.
Speaker #2: So there's good momentum in the business. And I think what we've always found before is that when we've got great content, great product, we've invested behind it and it's helped build a bigger business for the future.
Peter Jackson: There's good momentum in the business, and I think what we've always found before is that when we've got great content, great product, we've invested behind it and it's helped build a bigger business for the future. That's what we're intending to do, is we want to invest behind the momentum we're seeing at the moment. Rob, I don't know whether you want to pick up on the specifics.
Speaker #2: And that's what we're intending to do. So we want to invest behind the momentum we're seeing at the moment. Robert, I would even pick up on the specifics.
Rob Coldrake: Yeah, a couple of points to add. I mean, this is an investment in generosity spend, Ed, so it's a deliberate investment decision. As Peter said, we've made really good progress with the sportsbook improvement plan in the last quarter, so we're really encouraged by the customer response that we're seeing. We're also seeing really good returns on our marketing spend, both on sports and in casino, and that's been boosted by the World Cup. The paybacks that we're seeing at the moment are excellent. This is a proactive decision that we're making around the longer term US opportunity. We're really seeing an opportunity to lean in at the moment. It's working well, and we intend to continue that in H2 and exit 2026 with the strongest business possible.
Rob Coldrake: Yeah, a couple of points to add. I mean, this is an investment in generosity spend, Ed, so it's a deliberate investment decision. As Peter said, we've made really good progress with the sportsbook improvement plan in the last quarter, so we're really encouraged by the customer response that we're seeing. We're also seeing really good returns on our marketing spend, both on sports and in casino, and that's been boosted by the World Cup. The paybacks that we're seeing at the moment are excellent. This is a proactive decision that we're making around the longer term US opportunity. We're really seeing an opportunity to lean in at the moment. It's working well, and we intend to continue that in H2 and exit 2026 with the strongest business possible.
Speaker #4: Yeah, a couple of points to add. I mean, this is an investment in generosity spend, Ed. So it's a deliberate investment decision to be to serve.
Speaker #4: We've made really good progress with the sportsbook improvement plan in the last quarter. We're really encouraged by the customer response that we're seeing. We're also seeing really good returns on our marketing spend, both on sports and in casino.
Speaker #4: And that's been boosted by the World Cup. But the paybacks that we're seeing at the moment are excellent. This is a proactive decision that we're making around the longer-term US opportunity.
Speaker #4: We're really seeing an opportunity to lean in at the moment. It's working well. We intend to continue that in H2 and exit 2026 with the strongest business possible.
Speaker #3: Thank you. And on the international versus US investment?
Ed Young: Thank you. On the international versus US investment?
Ed Young: Thank you. On the international versus US investment?
Speaker #2: Well, look, I think we've always been very focused on investing behind organic opportunities across the business. If I look at the progress that we're making in Italy, in Turkey, in the Central and Eastern Europe, the sequential improvements we're seeing in the UK, these are all benefiting from the investments we're making behind the business.
Peter Jackson: Well, look, I think we've always been very focused on investing behind organic opportunities across the business. If I look at the progress that we're making in Italy, in Turkey, in Central and Eastern Europe, the sequential improvements we're seeing in the UK, these are all benefiting from the investments we're making behind the business. I think we are focused on delivering the fans, driving growth in international and in the US market. I think as Rob's mentioned, we see good returns on the investments we're seeing here in the US and in international, and that's why we're investing behind both of them.
Peter Jackson: Well, look, I think we've always been very focused on investing behind organic opportunities across the business. If I look at the progress that we're making in Italy, in Turkey, in Central and Eastern Europe, the sequential improvements we're seeing in the UK, these are all benefiting from the investments we're making behind the business. I think we are focused on delivering the fans, driving growth in international and in the US market. I think as Rob's mentioned, we see good returns on the investments we're seeing here in the US and in international, and that's why we're investing behind both of them.
Speaker #2: And so look, I think we are focused on delivering the plans, driving growth in international and in the US market. And I think as Rob's mentioned, we see good returns on the investments we're seeing here in the US and in international.
Speaker #2: And that's why we're investing behind both of them.
Speaker #3: Okay. Thank you very much.
Ed Young: Okay. Thank you very much.
Ed Young: Okay. Thank you very much.
Speaker #1: All right. Thank you, Ed. And our next question comes from the line of Barry Jonas with Truist Securities. Barry, please go ahead.
Operator: All right. Thank you, Ed. Our next question comes from the line of Barry Jonas with Truist Securities. Barry, please go ahead.
Operator: All right. Thank you, Ed. Our next question comes from the line of Barry Jonas with Truist Securities. Barry, please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Hey guys, thank you for taking my questions. Wanted to get some maybe additional thoughts on what do you think is driving the softer market-wide trends in the US?
Barry Jonas: Hey, guys. Thank you for taking my questions. Wanted to get some maybe additional thoughts on what you think is driving the softer market-wide trends in the US. You comment on prediction market cannibalization, curious with the increasing popularity of combos, if maybe those risks have increased from a OSB cannibalization perspective. Thank you.
Barry Jonas: Hey, guys. Thank you for taking my questions. Wanted to get some maybe additional thoughts on what you think is driving the softer market-wide trends in the US. You comment on prediction market cannibalization, curious with the increasing popularity of combos, if maybe those risks have increased from a OSB cannibalization perspective. Thank you.
Speaker #5: You comment on prediction market cannibalization, but curious with the increasing popularity of combos if maybe those risks have increased from a OSB cannibalization perspective.
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Speaker #2: Hi, Barry. Yeah, I think we if we look at the success of the NBA finals and the World Cup, where with exciting content, we've seen really good engagement from our customer perspective.
Peter Jackson: Hi, Barry. Look, I think if we look at the success of the NBA finals and the World Cup, where with exciting content, we've seen really good engagement from a customer perspective. I mentioned the 2.3 million customers, a third of those have reactivated going into the World Cup. They're seeing active numbers up 26% year over year on our NBA finals games. These are big marquee events, and I think it's helping drive engagement from a customer perspective.
Peter Jackson: Hi, Barry. Look, I think if we look at the success of the NBA finals and the World Cup, where with exciting content, we've seen really good engagement from a customer perspective. I mentioned the 2.3 million customers, a third of those have reactivated going into the World Cup. They're seeing active numbers up 26% year over year on our NBA finals games. These are big marquee events, and I think it's helping drive engagement from a customer perspective.
Speaker #2: I just I mentioned that the 2.3 million customers, a third of those were sort of reactivated going into the World Cup. They're seeing active numbers up 26% year over year.
Speaker #2: On our NBA finals games, we're seeing very good content from a these are big marquee events. And I think it's helping drive engagement from a customer perspective.
Speaker #2: Clearly, parlays are very popular for us. And we've made a bunch of changes to enable us to drive some improvements from a parlay penetration perspective through things like the World Cup and the NBA, which we delivered on.
Peter Jackson: Clearly, parlays are very popular for us, and we've made a bunch of changes to enable us to drive some improvements from a parlay penetration perspective through things like the FIFA World Cup and the NBA, which we delivered on. I think from a question around sort of cannibalization, we have seen, as we stated before, low single-digit impacts on the business. I look at this as incremental TAM. There are opportunities for us to go and acquire customers in advance of sportsbook regulation passing in, frankly, the sort of half of America that we can't currently operate in. Then there's the opportunity for us to leverage our pricing and risk management capabilities through market making on a national basis. Both of those things are incremental TAM to us.
Peter Jackson: Clearly, parlays are very popular for us, and we've made a bunch of changes to enable us to drive some improvements from a parlay penetration perspective through things like the FIFA World Cup and the NBA, which we delivered on. I think from a question around sort of cannibalization, we have seen, as we stated before, low single-digit impacts on the business. I look at this as incremental TAM. There are opportunities for us to go and acquire customers in advance of sportsbook regulation passing in, frankly, the sort of half of America that we can't currently operate in. Then there's the opportunity for us to leverage our pricing and risk management capabilities through market making on a national basis. Both of those things are incremental TAM to us.
Speaker #2: Yeah, I think from a question around sort of cannibalization, we have seen, as we stated before, low single-digit impacts on the business. I look at this as incremental tap.
Speaker #2: These are there are opportunities for us to go and acquire customers in advance of sportsbook regulation passing in frankly, the sort of half of America that we can't currently operate in.
Speaker #2: And then there's the opportunity for us to leverage our pricing and risk management capabilities through market-making on a national basis, and both of those things are incremental attempts for us.
Speaker #2: We are going to deliver a step change in our prediction market product as we go into the football season. The launch of the one app, which is going to enable customers nationally to access the tremendous user experience that we have currently available in our regulated states, is going to be important but we're going to see a really big step change in the sort of the catalog that's available to customers through the integration and movement of all of our sports contracts to crypto.com.
Peter Jackson: We are going to deliver a step change in our prediction market product as we go into the football season. The launch of the One App, which is going to enable customers nationally to access the tremendous user experience that we have currently available in our regulated states is going to be important. We're going to see a really big step change in the sort of catalog that's available to customers through the integration and movement of all of our sports contracts to Crypto.com.
Peter Jackson: We are going to deliver a step change in our prediction market product as we go into the football season. The launch of the One App, which is going to enable customers nationally to access the tremendous user experience that we have currently available in our regulated states is going to be important. We're going to see a really big step change in the sort of catalog that's available to customers through the integration and movement of all of our sports contracts to Crypto.com.
Speaker #4: I think I'd just add as well that if you look at the recent World Cup tournament and when you've got really good content, it really kind of reaffirms that the demand that there is out there for traditional online sports betting products.
Rob Coldrake: I think I'd just add as well that you look at the recent FIFA World Cup tournament, when you've got really good content, it really kind of reaffirms the demand that there is out there for traditional online sports betting products. In June and July in the US, we had our highest respective active months ever, we're carrying that momentum through now, albeit it's a slightly lower point in the sporting calendar from a phasing perspective. We're seeing really strong volumes through into the MLB season, which is really encouraging. Of course, it's still early days in Q3, whilst that momentum's really encouraging, ultimately performance in the quarter and H2 will be determined by the football season, as we know.
Rob Coldrake: I think I'd just add as well that you look at the recent FIFA World Cup tournament, when you've got really good content, it really kind of reaffirms the demand that there is out there for traditional online sports betting products. In June and July in the US, we had our highest respective active months ever, we're carrying that momentum through now, albeit it's a slightly lower point in the sporting calendar from a phasing perspective. We're seeing really strong volumes through into the MLB season, which is really encouraging. Of course, it's still early days in Q3, whilst that momentum's really encouraging, ultimately performance in the quarter and H2 will be determined by the football season, as we know.
Speaker #4: So in June and July, in the US, we had our highest respective active months ever. And we're carrying that momentum through now, albeit it's a slightly lower point in the sporting calendar from a phasing perspective.
Speaker #4: But we're seeing really strong volumes through into the MLB season, which is really encouraging. Of course, still early days in Q3 and whilst that momentum's really encouraging, ultimately performance in the quarter and the second half will be determined by the football season as we know.
Speaker #1: Got it. And then just for a follow-up, North Carolina just recently passed a tax increase for OSB. Taking your rate to 23%, while they also effectively added a 6% tax for prediction markets.
Barry Jonas: Got it. Then just for a follow-up, North Carolina just recently passed a tax increase for OSB, taking the rate to 23%, while they also effectively added a 6% tax for prediction markets. How does that weigh into your thinking strategically about prediction markets, given the state effectively is signing off on it here? Just curious if it makes you want to lean in more or less strategically between the two offerings. Thank you.
Barry Jonas: Got it. Then just for a follow-up, North Carolina just recently passed a tax increase for OSB, taking the rate to 23%, while they also effectively added a 6% tax for prediction markets. How does that weigh into your thinking strategically about prediction markets, given the state effectively is signing off on it here? Just curious if it makes you want to lean in more or less strategically between the two offerings. Thank you.
Speaker #1: How does that weigh into your thinking strategically about prediction markets given the state effectively is signing off on it here? Just curious if it makes you want to lean in more or less strategically between the two offerings.
Speaker #1: Thank you.
Peter Jackson: There's a lot of questions and working on from a regulatory perspective around prediction markets. Some of these things, the extent to which they can be rolled out will be resolved by the Supreme Court. I mean, from a state-by-state tax perspective, there's also a lot going on at the moment. I think we've been pleased with our focus on trying to get new states to open. I think that's an important component that we need to recognize as well. I think we're excited to see some of the progress we're going to be able to make around both iGaming and sports betting as well.
Peter Jackson: There's a lot of questions and working on from a regulatory perspective around prediction markets. Some of these things, the extent to which they can be rolled out will be resolved by the Supreme Court. I mean, from a state-by-state tax perspective, there's also a lot going on at the moment. I think we've been pleased with our focus on trying to get new states to open. I think that's an important component that we need to recognize as well. I think we're excited to see some of the progress we're going to be able to make around both iGaming and sports betting as well.
Speaker #2: So there's a lot of questions and work going on from a regulatory perspective around sort of prediction markets. Some of these things and the extent to which they can be rolled out will be resolved by the Supreme Court.
Speaker #2: I mean, from a state-by-state tax perspective, there’s also a lot going on at the moment. Now, I think we’ve been pleased with our focus on trying to get new states to open.
Speaker #2: I think that's an important component that we need to that we need to recognize as well. And I think we're excited to see some of the progress we're going to be able to make around both iGaming and sports betting as well.
Speaker #1: Thank you. All right. Thank you, Barry. And our next question comes from the line of Brant Montour with Barclays. Brant, please go ahead.
Barry Jonas: Thank you.
Barry Jonas: Thank you.
Operator: All right. Thank you, Barry. Our next question comes from the line of Brandt Montour with Barclays. Brandt, please go ahead.
Operator: All right. Thank you, Barry. Our next question comes from the line of Brandt Montour with Barclays. Brandt, please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Good morning, everybody. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to start off with the market-making and get your sense on how that market feels for you guys going into the second half.
Brandt Montour: Good morning, everybody. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to start off with the market making and get your sense on how that market feels for you guys going into H2. I think following the prediction markets, it's been out there that these markets are getting efficient pretty quickly. I know you guys did GBP 6 million in Q2, and you've got GBP 50 million for the year. What are you baking in for H2? What platforms do you think you'll be most active in? What can you tell us about the mix between where you're trading in single leg versus combos as a percentage of mix?
Brandt Montour: Good morning, everybody. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to start off with the market making and get your sense on how that market feels for you guys going into H2. I think following the prediction markets, it's been out there that these markets are getting efficient pretty quickly. I know you guys did GBP 6 million in Q2, and you've got GBP 50 million for the year. What are you baking in for H2? What platforms do you think you'll be most active in? What can you tell us about the mix between where you're trading in single leg versus combos as a percentage of mix?
Speaker #6: I think, following the prediction markets, it's been out there that these markets are getting efficient pretty quickly, and so I know you guys did $6 million in Q2 and you've got $50 million for the year.
Speaker #6: So what are you baking in for the second half? What platforms do you think you'll be most active in? And what can you tell us about the mix between where you're trading in single leg versus combos as a percentage of mix?
Speaker #4: Yeah, so let me pick up on that one. I mean, we're really excited about the opportunity in market making actually Peter and I were with the team in Jersey City last week and we definitely seeing volumes continue to increase across the ecosystem.
Rob Coldrake: Let me pick up on that one. I think we're really excited about the opportunity in market making. Actually, Peter and I were with the team in Jersey City last week, and we're definitely seeing volumes continue to increase across the ecosystem, and that gives us an increased level of confidence in the long-term potential of that market. Our ambition here, as we've stated before, is to establish a leading position in this space by leveraging the pricing and risk management and the trading capabilities that we've got and developed over the years with our sportsbook. We feel that we've got a real advantage in that place in pricing complex and correlated markets. As the combo volume increases, we're better placed to take advantage of that, and we see that as a really attractive and high margin segment for us. Of course, though, it's still early days.
Rob Coldrake: Let me pick up on that one. I think we're really excited about the opportunity in market making. Actually, Peter and I were with the team in Jersey City last week, and we're definitely seeing volumes continue to increase across the ecosystem, and that gives us an increased level of confidence in the long-term potential of that market. Our ambition here, as we've stated before, is to establish a leading position in this space by leveraging the pricing and risk management and the trading capabilities that we've got and developed over the years with our sportsbook. We feel that we've got a real advantage in that place in pricing complex and correlated markets. As the combo volume increases, we're better placed to take advantage of that, and we see that as a really attractive and high margin segment for us. Of course, though, it's still early days.
Speaker #4: And that gives us an increased level of confidence in the long-term potential of that market. Our ambition here, as we've stated before, is to establish a leading position in this space by leveraging the pricing and risk management and the trading capabilities that we've got and developed over the years with our sportsbook.
Speaker #4: And we feel that we've got a real advantage in that place in pricing complex and correlated markets as the combo volume increases, we're better placed to take advantage of that.
Speaker #4: And we see that as a really attractive and high-margin segment for us. Of course, it's still early days. I think the volumes that we're achieving into the second half of the year are encouraging and we think this has got a potential to become a meaningful revenue stream for us.
Rob Coldrake: I think the volumes that we're achieving into H2 of the year are encouraging, and we think this has got the potential to become a meaningful revenue stream for us. We need to see how we trade through H2 of the year, and then we'll update forecast into 2027.
Rob Coldrake: I think the volumes that we're achieving into H2 of the year are encouraging, and we think this has got the potential to become a meaningful revenue stream for us. We need to see how we trade through H2 of the year, and then we'll update forecast into 2027.
Speaker #4: But we need to see how we trade through the second half of the year and then we'll update forecasts into 2027.
Speaker #6: Okay, great. Thanks for that. And then a follow-up on the NFL, could you just flesh out a little bit more details about the delayed start, this is a market that you've commonly wanted to invest obviously ahead of the start, the time when there's the best customer acquisition opportunity.
Brandt Montour: Okay, great. Thanks for that. Then a follow-up on the NFL. Could you just flesh out a little bit more details about the delayed start? This is a market that you've commonly wanted to invest, obviously, ahead of the start, the time when there's the best customer acquisition opportunity. What's sort of the playbook with a delayed start? How will you have to approach that differently?
Brandt Montour: Okay, great. Thanks for that. Then a follow-up on the NFL. Could you just flesh out a little bit more details about the delayed start? This is a market that you've commonly wanted to invest, obviously, ahead of the start, the time when there's the best customer acquisition opportunity. What's sort of the playbook with a delayed start? How will you have to approach that differently?
Speaker #6: So what's sort of the playbook with a delayed start? How will you approach how will you have to approach that differently?
Rob Coldrake: The delayed start is really just a technicality, Brandt. It's all around the timing of the season and where Labor Day falls, and this can move from one year to the next. We're not actually changing our investment posture at all here. The start of the NFL season is something that we'll lean into. It's really important for us in terms of re-engaging customers. What I would say is that during the World Cup, we actually reactivated a bunch more customers than we were anticipating, which was really encouraging for us. We're actually starting in a stronger position. We're also clearly focused on college football and the start of that, which is a key opportunity for us to get behind some customer initiatives as we start the NFL. From a posture perspective, we're not going to be changing our approach massively.
Rob Coldrake: The delayed start is really just a technicality, Brandt. It's all around the timing of the season and where Labor Day falls, and this can move from one year to the next. We're not actually changing our investment posture at all here. The start of the NFL season is something that we'll lean into. It's really important for us in terms of re-engaging customers. What I would say is that during the World Cup, we actually reactivated a bunch more customers than we were anticipating, which was really encouraging for us. We're actually starting in a stronger position. We're also clearly focused on college football and the start of that, which is a key opportunity for us to get behind some customer initiatives as we start the NFL. From a posture perspective, we're not going to be changing our approach massively.
Speaker #4: The delayed start is really just a technicality, Brant. That's all around the timing of the season and where Labor Day falls, and this can move from one year to the next.
Speaker #4: We're not actually changing our investment posture at all here. The start of the NFL season is something that we'll lean into. It's really important for us in terms of re-engaging customers.
Speaker #4: What I would say is that during the World Cup, we actually reactivated a bunch more customers than we were anticipating, which was really encouraging for us.
Speaker #4: We're actually starting in a stronger position. We're also clearly focused on college football and the stuff that which is a key opportunity for us to get behind some customer initiatives as we start the NFL.
Speaker #4: But from a posture perspective, we're not going to be changing our approach massively. Having the Rewards Club live for all customers this year is also going to be really important.
Rob Coldrake: Having the FanDuel Rewards Club live for all customers this year is also going to be really important. We've already rolled it out to 70% of customers. By the start of the NFL, that's going to be available for all of our customers, and we're seeing really good traction behind that. With the college football starting the week before, that's a great opportunity to prime customer wallets, and we hope to see a running start to the NFL season.
Rob Coldrake: Having the FanDuel Rewards Club live for all customers this year is also going to be really important. We've already rolled it out to 70% of customers. By the start of the NFL, that's going to be available for all of our customers, and we're seeing really good traction behind that. With the college football starting the week before, that's a great opportunity to prime customer wallets, and we hope to see a running start to the NFL season.
Speaker #4: So we've already rolled it out to 70% of customers by the start of the NFL. That's going to be available for all of our customers.
Speaker #4: And we're seeing really good traction behind that. So with the college football start in the week before, that's a great opportunity to prime customer wallets and we hope to see a running start to the NFL season.
Speaker #6: Okay, so the NFL schedule delay was not previously was it not previously in guidance and is today, but this is an NFL schedule, not a Flutter schedule.
Brandt Montour: Okay. The NFL schedule delay was not previously in guidance and is today, but this is an NFL schedule, not a Flutter schedule.
Brandt Montour: Okay. The NFL schedule delay was not previously in guidance and is today, but this is an NFL schedule, not a Flutter schedule.
Speaker #4: Correct. This is NFL scheduling, which wasn't previously in guidance and we've updated our guidance for it.
Rob Coldrake: Correct. This is NFL scheduling, which wasn't previously in guidance, and we've updated our guidance for it.
Rob Coldrake: Correct. This is NFL scheduling, which wasn't previously in guidance, and we've updated our guidance for it.
Speaker #6: Perfect. Thanks, everyone.
Brandt Montour: Perfect. Thanks, everyone.
Brandt Montour: Perfect. Thanks, everyone.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Brant. And our next question comes from the line of Jordan Bender with Citizens. Jordan, please go ahead.
Operator: Thanks, Brandt. Our next question comes from the line of Jordan Bender with Citizens. Jordan, please go ahead.
Operator: Thanks, Brandt. Our next question comes from the line of Jordan Bender with Citizens. Jordan, please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Hey, everyone. Good morning. So direct casino and growth actually look pretty strong in the quarter and keeping in mind you can't grow iGaming revenue 40% forever.
Jordan Bender: Hey, everyone. Good morning. Direct casino ARPU, it's actually looked pretty strong in the quarter, and keeping in mind you can't grow iGaming revenue 40% forever. Can you just talk about what the sports betting to iGaming cross-sell looks like now? Should we expect the investment into sports in the NFL season to actually help iCasino growth in the back half of the year? Peter, I guess a second question, handle up 31% in July, which was better than your June performance. Just trying to piece together some of your comments around market growth won't pick up in the back half of the year, but you did say MLB is starting to pick up a little bit. I guess just what does that imply for your actual underlying business outside of the World Cup in July?
Jordan Bender: Hey, everyone. Good morning. Direct casino ARPU, it's actually looked pretty strong in the quarter, and keeping in mind you can't grow iGaming revenue 40% forever. Can you just talk about what the sports betting to iGaming cross-sell looks like now? Should we expect the investment into sports in the NFL season to actually help iCasino growth in the back half of the year? Peter, I guess a second question, handle up 31% in July, which was better than your June performance. Just trying to piece together some of your comments around market growth won't pick up in the back half of the year, but you did say MLB is starting to pick up a little bit. I guess just what does that imply for your actual underlying business outside of the World Cup in July?
Speaker #5: Can you just talk about what the sports betting to iGaming cross-sell looks like now and should we expect the investment into sports in the NFL season to actually help iCasino growth in the back half of the year?
Speaker #5: And then, Peter, I guess the second question, handle a 31% in July, which was better than your June performance. Just trying to piece together some of your comments around market growth won't pick up in the back half of the year, but you did say MLB is starting to pick up a little bit.
Speaker #5: I guess just what does that imply for your actual underlying business outside of the World Cup in July?
Speaker #2: Okay, thank you, Jordan. Look, picking up on the gaming platform, we clearly harnessed the World Cup opportunity to increase the football-relevant content or soccer-relevant content during the World Cup.
Peter Jackson: Okay. Thank you, Jordan. Look, picking up on the gaming sector, we clearly harnessed the World Cup opportunity to increase football relevant content, or soccer relevant content during the World Cup, which obviously helped drive some reactivations and cross-activation in the tournament. You've got to remember that the main focus and push for us from an iGaming perspective is around acquiring those direct-to-casino customers. The Love Island unlocked launch we had in June, our new brand ambassador, Ariana Madix. Look, we've seen some really good success from that. The Monopoly Live exclusive launch. There's been a lot of great content that we've got supporting iGaming. Clearly, the smaller sports betting business we had coming into the year did impact cross-sell. As Walt mentioned, we've got a bigger base now. Look, I think we're feeling good about the prospects for the iGaming business.
Peter Jackson: Okay. Thank you, Jordan. Look, picking up on the gaming sector, we clearly harnessed the World Cup opportunity to increase football relevant content, or soccer relevant content during the World Cup, which obviously helped drive some reactivations and cross-activation in the tournament. You've got to remember that the main focus and push for us from an iGaming perspective is around acquiring those direct-to-casino customers. The Love Island unlocked launch we had in June, our new brand ambassador, Ariana Madix. Look, we've seen some really good success from that. The Monopoly Live exclusive launch. There's been a lot of great content that we've got supporting iGaming. Clearly, the smaller sports betting business we had coming into the year did impact cross-sell. As Walt mentioned, we've got a bigger base now. Look, I think we're feeling good about the prospects for the iGaming business.
Speaker #2: Which obviously helped drive sort of reactivations and cross-activation in the tournament. But you've got to remember that the main focus and push for us from an iGaming perspective is around acquiring those direct-to-casino customers.
Speaker #2: And the Love Island unlocked launch we had in June, our new brand ambassador, our brand ambassador, Ariana Maddox, look, we've seen some really good success from that.
Speaker #2: The Monopoly Live exclusive launch, so there's been a lot of great content that we've got supporting iGaming. Clearly, the smaller sports betting business we had coming into the year did impact cross-sell, but it's worth to mention we've got a bigger base now.
Speaker #2: So look, I think we're feeling good about the prospects for the iGaming business. Your question around sort of market growth, we are look, we have seen this strong performance through Q2.
Peter Jackson: Your question around market growth, look, we have seen this strong performance through Q2. We have seen the strong NBA Finals. We've been very pleased with the engagement we've seen around the World Cup. We are pleased with how we started into Q3. Look, the football season was tough last year. We think a bunch of that was down to the content, which wasn't as engaging for consumers. There was also obviously some execution issue from our perspective around generosity. We're planning some great campaigns this year. We're hoping for some very compelling matchups and content, I think we'll see what happens.
Peter Jackson: Your question around market growth, look, we have seen this strong performance through Q2. We have seen the strong NBA Finals. We've been very pleased with the engagement we've seen around the World Cup. We are pleased with how we started into Q3. Look, the football season was tough last year. We think a bunch of that was down to the content, which wasn't as engaging for consumers. There was also obviously some execution issue from our perspective around generosity. We're planning some great campaigns this year. We're hoping for some very compelling matchups and content, I think we'll see what happens.
Speaker #2: We have seen the strong NBA Finals. We've been very pleased with the engagement we've seen around the World Cup. We are pleased with how we've started into Q3.
Speaker #2: Look, the football season was tough last year. We think a bunch of that was down to the content which wasn't as engaging for consumers.
Speaker #2: There was also obviously some execution issue from our perspective around generosity, but we're planning some great campaigns this year. We're hoping for some very compelling matchups and content.
Speaker #2: And I think we'll see what happens. But look, our forecast assumes some prudent views around market growth in the second half. And I hope we find that the market outperforms that, but we thought it was the right thing to take the growth we saw in the first half and use that for the second half.
Peter Jackson: Look, our forecast assumes some prudent views around market growth in H2, and I hope we find that the market outperforms that, but we thought it was the right thing to take the growth we saw in H1 and use that for H2 as guidance.
Peter Jackson: Look, our forecast assumes some prudent views around market growth in H2, and I hope we find that the market outperforms that, but we thought it was the right thing to take the growth we saw in H1 and use that for H2 as guidance.
Rob Coldrake: The other point to mention on iGaming is that clearly the success of our casino business has been built on direct acquisition, which remains very strong. The cross-sell piece we've been really pleased with during the World Cup, where the cross-sell actives were actually slightly ahead of our expectations. If you compare Q4 this year versus Q4 last year, the cross-sell was actually slightly lower than we'd anticipated last year because of some of the execution issues Pete talked about in Q4, which means we're quite optimistic about how the cross-sell will perform as we move to Q4 this year as well.
Rob Coldrake: The other point to mention on iGaming is that clearly the success of our casino business has been built on direct acquisition, which remains very strong. The cross-sell piece we've been really pleased with during the World Cup, where the cross-sell actives were actually slightly ahead of our expectations. If you compare Q4 this year versus Q4 last year, the cross-sell was actually slightly lower than we'd anticipated last year because of some of the execution issues Pete talked about in Q4, which means we're quite optimistic about how the cross-sell will perform as we move to Q4 this year as well.
Speaker #4: The other point to mention on iGaming is that clearly the success of our casino business has been built on direct acquisition, which remains very strong.
Speaker #4: The cross-sell piece, we've been really pleased with during the World Cup where the cross-sell actives were actually slightly ahead of our expectations. And if you compare Q4 this year versus Q4 last year, the cross-sell was actually slightly lower than we'd anticipated last year because of some of the execution issues Peter talked about Q4, which means we're quite optimistic about how the cross-sell will perform as we move to Q4 this year as well.
Speaker #1: Thanks, and Peter, thanks for help over the years.
Jordan Bender: Thanks. Peter, thanks for your help over the years.
Jordan Bender: Thanks. Peter, thanks for your help over the years.
Speaker #6: Thank you, Jordan.
Peter Jackson: Thank you, Jordan.
Peter Jackson: Thank you, Jordan.
Operator: All right. Thank you, Jordan. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, just one more reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, once again, star one on your telephone keypad. Once again, star one. We do have a lot of callers in the queue and limited time. From this point forward, we do ask that you please limit yourself to one question. Thanks for understanding. Our next question comes from the line of Trey Bowers with Wells Fargo. Trey, please go ahead.
Operator: All right. Thank you, Jordan. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, just one more reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, once again, star one on your telephone keypad. Once again, star one. We do have a lot of callers in the queue and limited time. From this point forward, we do ask that you please limit yourself to one question. Thanks for understanding. Our next question comes from the line of Trey Bowers with Wells Fargo. Trey, please go ahead.
Speaker #1: All right. Thank you, Jordan. All right, ladies and gentlemen, just one more reminder. If you'd like to ask a question, once again, star one on your telephone keypad.
Speaker #1: Once again, star one. And we do have a lot of callers in the queue and limited time. So from this point forward, we do ask that you please limit yourself to one question.
Speaker #1: Thanks for understanding. And our next question comes from the line of Trey Bowers with Wells Fargo. Trey, please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Hey guys, thanks for the question. I guess just if we could on a pure modeling sense for the US business, could we get a sense of the breakdown of the EBITDA for the balance of the year for Q3 and Q4 and just how potentially Q4 loaded the outlook is from here?
Trey Bowers: Hey, guys. Thanks for the question. I guess just if we could, on a pure modeling sense for the US business, could we get a sense of the breakdown of the EBITDA for the balance of the year for Q3 and Q4 and just how potentially Q4 loaded the outlook is from here? Thank you.
Trey Bowers: Hey, guys. Thanks for the question. I guess just if we could, on a pure modeling sense for the US business, could we get a sense of the breakdown of the EBITDA for the balance of the year for Q3 and Q4 and just how potentially Q4 loaded the outlook is from here? Thank you.
Speaker #7: Thank you.
Speaker #4: Yeah, let me pick that one up, Trey. So for Q3, we are assuming a roughly break-even EBITDA, with $500 million of EBITDA in Q4, which is down from circa $700 million in our previous guidance.
Rob Coldrake: Yeah, let me pick that one up, Trey. For Q3, we are assuming a roughly break-even EBITDAR with $500 million of EBITDAR Q4, which is down from $700 million in our previous guidance. If you roll through the factors there, it's the generosity phasing in terms of the increased investment that we're making. You've got the NFL scheduled effects, which is in Q3 only. There's also some state launch costs playing into that, where we've got the continued Arkansas investment this year. We obviously had Missouri launching last year, which was previously in the guidance. The other thing to call out is we've got some operating cost savings coming through as part of the overall plan in the US. We've got about $45 million of operating cost savings in the H2. Those are the key moving parts for Q3 and Q4.
Rob Coldrake: Yeah, let me pick that one up, Trey. For Q3, we are assuming a roughly break-even EBITDAR with $500 million of EBITDAR Q4, which is down from $700 million in our previous guidance. If you roll through the factors there, it's the generosity phasing in terms of the increased investment that we're making. You've got the NFL scheduled effects, which is in Q3 only. There's also some state launch costs playing into that, where we've got the continued Arkansas investment this year. We obviously had Missouri launching last year, which was previously in the guidance. The other thing to call out is we've got some operating cost savings coming through as part of the overall plan in the US. We've got about $45 million of operating cost savings in the H2. Those are the key moving parts for Q3 and Q4.
Speaker #4: So if you roll through the factors there, the generosity phasing in terms of the increased investment that we're making, you've got the NFL scheduled effects, which is in Q3 only.
Speaker #4: There's also some state launch costs playing into that, where we've got the continued Arkansas investment this year. We obviously had Missouri launching last year, which was previously in the guidance. The other thing to call out is we've got some operating cost savings coming through as part of the overall plan in the US.
Speaker #4: We've got about 45 million dollars of operating costs savings in the second half. So those are the key moving parts for Q3 and Q4.
Speaker #7: Thank you.
Trey Bowers: Thank you.
Trey Bowers: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Great, thank you, Trey. And our next question comes from the line of Jed Kelly with Oppenheimer. Jed, please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you, Trey. Our next question comes from the line of Jed Kelly with Oppenheimer. Jed, please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you, Trey. Our next question comes from the line of Jed Kelly with Oppenheimer. Jed, please go ahead.
Jed Kelly: Hey, great. Thanks for taking my question. Just going back to the investment in generosity, should we just think of the US sportsbook, given all the sports, the engaging nature, that this is just a lower net win margin market versus some of your other international markets that just might not have the sports depth that we have in the US? Thanks.
Jed Kelly: Hey, great. Thanks for taking my question. Just going back to the investment in generosity, should we just think of the US sportsbook, given all the sports, the engaging nature, that this is just a lower net win margin market versus some of your other international markets that just might not have the sports depth that we have in the US? Thanks.
Speaker #5: Hey, great. Thanks for taking my question. Just going back to the investment in generosity, should we just think of the US sports book given all the sports the engaging nature that this is just a lower net win margin, market versus some of your other international versus some of your other international markets that just might not have the sports steps that we have in the US?
Speaker #5: Thanks.
Peter Jackson: Jed, we've seen some improvements as we come into Q2 around our structural margin. I know there have been some questions around that. I think we would expect to continue to see growth in structural margin. Now, I think, look, we are seeing strong momentum in the business at the moment. I think we're feeling confident that the sportsbook improvement plan is working. We'll have the loyalty scheme rolled out to an entire customer base when we go into the football season. I think we've started making better customer-focused and customer-first decisions in the business. I think as we've done in the past, it's time to invest behind that and make sure that as we move into 2027, we have a bigger business and a better trajectory for the business. A bigger business means we can invest in having better products from a customer perspective.
Peter Jackson: Jed, we've seen some improvements as we come into Q2 around our structural margin. I know there have been some questions around that. I think we would expect to continue to see growth in structural margin. Now, I think, look, we are seeing strong momentum in the business at the moment. I think we're feeling confident that the sportsbook improvement plan is working. We'll have the loyalty scheme rolled out to an entire customer base when we go into the football season. I think we've started making better customer-focused and customer-first decisions in the business. I think as we've done in the past, it's time to invest behind that and make sure that as we move into 2027, we have a bigger business and a better trajectory for the business. A bigger business means we can invest in having better products from a customer perspective.
Speaker #2: Jed, we've seen some improvements as we come into Q2 around our structural margin. And I think I know there have been some questions around that.
Speaker #2: And I think we would expect to continue to see growth in structural margin. I think look, we are seeing strong momentum in the business at the moment.
Speaker #2: I think we're feeling confident that the sportsbook improvement plan is working. We'll have the loyalty scheme rolled out to the entire customer base when we go into the football season.
Speaker #2: I think we've started making better customer-focused and customer-first decisions in the business. And I think, as we've done in the past, it's time to invest behind that and make sure that as we move into '27, we have a bigger business and a better trajectory for the business.
Speaker #2: And look, a bigger business means we can invest in having better products from a customer perspective. And look, I think we can also make sure that we're sort of growing ARPU as well as AMPS.
Peter Jackson: Look, I think we can also make sure that we're growing ARPU as well as AMPS, that's something that's really important for us as we look to grow and expand the business.
Peter Jackson: Look, I think we can also make sure that we're growing ARPU as well as AMPS, that's something that's really important for us as we look to grow and expand the business.
Speaker #2: And that's something that's really important for us as we sort of look to grow and expand the business.
Rob Coldrake: Medium to long term, we see a very clear path to that margin expansion as we've talked about previously, Trey. We've consistently demonstrated across all of our international businesses our ability to grow parlay penetration, and also improve the product mix over time, and we think there's meaningful opportunity to do that in the US.
Speaker #4: And medium to long term, we see a very clear path to that margin expansion, as we've talked about previously, Trey. So we've consistently demonstrated across all of our international businesses our ability to grow parlay penetration, and also improve the product mix over time.
Rob Coldrake: Medium to long term, we see a very clear path to that margin expansion as we've talked about previously, Trey. We've consistently demonstrated across all of our international businesses our ability to grow parlay penetration, and also improve the product mix over time, and we think there's meaningful opportunity to do that in the US.
Speaker #4: And we think there's meaningful opportunity to do that in the U.S.
Speaker #5: Thank you, and good luck, Peter.
Jed Kelly: Thank you, and good luck, Peter.
Jed Kelly: Thank you, and good luck, Peter.
Peter Jackson: Thank you.
Peter Jackson: Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Jed. And our next question comes from the line of Ryan Sigdahl with Craig Hallam Capital Group. Ryan, please go ahead.
Operator: Thanks, Jed. Our next question comes from the line of Ryan Sigdahl with Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Ryan, please go ahead.
Operator: Thanks, Jed. Our next question comes from the line of Ryan Sigdahl with Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Ryan, please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Hey, good day, guys. Curious with the transition to crypto.com for sports from CME. All your JV will work from a contract volume standpoint through non-CME exchanges.
Ryan Sigdahl: Hey, good day, guys. Curious with the transition to Crypto.com for sports from CME, how your JV will work from a contract volume standpoint through non-CME exchanges. I guess specifically, I believe it was a 50/50 economic split with CME. How does that work now with other exchanges?
Ryan Sigdahl: Hey, good day, guys. Curious with the transition to Crypto.com for sports from CME, how your JV will work from a contract volume standpoint through non-CME exchanges. I guess specifically, I believe it was a 50/50 economic split with CME. How does that work now with other exchanges?
Speaker #7: I guess specifically, I believe it was a 50/50 economic split with CME. How does that work now with other exchanges?
Peter Jackson: Ryan, look, we are excited about extending the sports and novelties catalog that we'll have available for our customers as a result of switching to this new venue for those products. We will keep our existing financial markets with CME. Look, the economics for the financial markets with CME stay broadly as they were. I think there's probably a slight positive for us in moving towards Crypto.com. I see it as a modest economic benefit. The really important thing here is the step change we're going to see in the catalog available for customers. Together with the enhanced sportsbook proposition look and feel of the One App, I think we're going to have a very compelling proposition available for consumers nationwide.
Peter Jackson: Ryan, look, we are excited about extending the sports and novelties catalog that we'll have available for our customers as a result of switching to this new venue for those products. We will keep our existing financial markets with CME. Look, the economics for the financial markets with CME stay broadly as they were. I think there's probably a slight positive for us in moving towards Crypto.com. I see it as a modest economic benefit. The really important thing here is the step change we're going to see in the catalog available for customers. Together with the enhanced sportsbook proposition look and feel of the One App, I think we're going to have a very compelling proposition available for consumers nationwide.
Speaker #2: Ryan, look, we are excited about extending the sports and novelties catalog that we'll have available for our customers. As a result of switching to this new venue for those products, and we'll keep our existing financial markets with CME.
Speaker #2: So look, the economics for the financial markets with CME stay broadly as they were. I think there's probably a slight positive for us in moving towards crypto.com.
Speaker #2: It's a modest economic benefit, but the really important thing here is the step change we're going to see in the catalog that's available for customers.
Speaker #2: And together with the enhanced sports book proposition, look and feel of the one app, I think we're going to have a very compelling proposition available for consumers nationwide.
Ryan Sigdahl: Best of luck, Peter.
Ryan Sigdahl: Best of luck, Peter.
Speaker #7: That's some luck, Peter.
Speaker #2: Thank you.
Peter Jackson: Thank you.
Peter Jackson: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Ryan. And our next question comes from the line of Clark Lampin with BTIG. Clark, please go ahead.
Operator: Thanks, Ryan. Our next question comes from the line of Clark Lampen with BTIG. Clark, please go ahead.
Operator: Thanks, Ryan. Our next question comes from the line of Clark Lampen with BTIG. Clark, please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Hi, very much. Peter, I'll echo what some of my peers have said upfront and say thanks and sort of best of luck. I'm glad we're doing this at sort of 9:00 AM now as opposed to 3:00 or 4:00 AM.
Clark Lampen: Thanks very much. Peter, I'll echo what some of my peers have said upfront and say thanks and best of luck. I'm glad we're doing this at 9:00 AM now as opposed to 3:00 or 4:00 AM in the past also. My question is on the US iGaming business. In prior quarters, you guys had a soft target for high teens growth. I'm curious if that was adjusted as part of the US outlook. Maybe a second component of this is if we're thinking about revenue margins and cost reduction opportunities for the US business, how would you think about slots versus table game mix opportunities for improving revenue margins and then first-party content moving forward? Thanks very much.
Clark Lampen: Thanks very much. Peter, I'll echo what some of my peers have said upfront and say thanks and best of luck. I'm glad we're doing this at 9:00 AM now as opposed to 3:00 or 4:00 AM in the past also. My question is on the US iGaming business. In prior quarters, you guys had a soft target for high teens growth. I'm curious if that was adjusted as part of the US outlook. Maybe a second component of this is if we're thinking about revenue margins and cost reduction opportunities for the US business, how would you think about slots versus table game mix opportunities for improving revenue margins and then first-party content moving forward? Thanks very much.
Speaker #6: In the past also, my question is on the US iGaming business. In prior quarters, you guys sort of had a soft target for high teens growth.
Speaker #6: I'm curious if that was adjusted as part of the US outlook. And maybe a sort of second component of this is if we're thinking about revenue margins and cost reduction opportunities for the US business, how would you think about slots for table game mix, opportunities for improving revenue margins, and then first-party content moving forward?
Speaker #6: Thanks very much.
Speaker #4: Yeah, high clock. So let me pick up the iGaming question. So we've always sort of said in our guidance that we expect the iGaming business to grow at high teens for the year.
Rob Coldrake: Yeah. Hi, Clark. Let me pick up the iGaming question. We've always said in our guides that we expect the iGaming business to grow at high teens for the year. We expected it to be slightly lower in H1 than in H2, given the base of the sportsbook numbers coming into the year. As Pete said earlier, we're really pleased with the momentum that we've got in the iGaming business, in the World Cup. The cross-sell actives were higher than we'd anticipated.
Rob Coldrake: Yeah. Hi, Clark. Let me pick up the iGaming question. We've always said in our guides that we expect the iGaming business to grow at high teens for the year. We expected it to be slightly lower in H1 than in H2, given the base of the sportsbook numbers coming into the year. As Pete said earlier, we're really pleased with the momentum that we've got in the iGaming business, in the World Cup. The cross-sell actives were higher than we'd anticipated.
Speaker #4: And we expected it to be slightly lower in H1 than H2 given the base of the sports book numbers coming into the year. As Peter said earlier, we're really pleased with the momentum that we've got.
Speaker #4: In the iGaming business, in the World Cup, the cross-sale actives were higher than we'd anticipated. I think from a content perspective, we're actually going through the plan with the team last week, but we've got exclusive content launches every month from now until the end of the year.
Rob Coldrake: I think from a content perspective, we were actually going through the plan with the team last week. We've got exclusive content launches every month from now until the end of the year, and there's some popular franchise stuff in there and some repeats of some of the franchise titles that worked really well for us in the past, like Huff and Puff and the Willy Wonka titles. We're really pleased with where iGaming is, and we've reiterated our guidance for H2, and as I said with the cross-sell piece earlier as well in Q4, we're anticipating a slightly better cross-sell performance in Q4 than with last year.
Rob Coldrake: I think from a content perspective, we were actually going through the plan with the team last week. We've got exclusive content launches every month from now until the end of the year, and there's some popular franchise stuff in there and some repeats of some of the franchise titles that worked really well for us in the past, like Huff and Puff and the Willy Wonka titles. We're really pleased with where iGaming is, and we've reiterated our guidance for H2, and as I said with the cross-sell piece earlier as well in Q4, we're anticipating a slightly better cross-sell performance in Q4 than with last year.
Speaker #4: And there's some popular franchise stuff in there. And some repeats of some of the franchise titles that weren't really well for us in the past, like Huff and Puff and the Willy Wonka titles.
Speaker #4: So we're really pleased with where iGaming is and we've reiterated our guidance into the second half of the year as I said with the cross-sale piece earlier as well in Q4, we're anticipating a slightly better cross-sale performance in Q4 than with last year.
Peter Jackson: Look, we can see that, Clark, in, as you say, the difference between the table games and slots. We can see a very clear distinction there. The direct casino, so the slots growing very strongly. Look, as we said a few times on the call, coming into the year with a smaller sports base impacted table games. Look, I think as we've gone through the World Cup, seen that big step-up in performance, the NBA Finals, all the plans we've got for the football season, I think we're excited to see what we can do in H2.
Speaker #2: And look, we can see that, Clark, as you say this, that the difference between the table games and slots, we can see it very clear distinction there.
Peter Jackson: Look, we can see that, Clark, in, as you say, the difference between the table games and slots. We can see a very clear distinction there. The direct casino, so the slots growing very strongly. Look, as we said a few times on the call, coming into the year with a smaller sports base impacted table games. Look, I think as we've gone through the World Cup, seen that big step-up in performance, the NBA Finals, all the plans we've got for the football season, I think we're excited to see what we can do in H2.
Speaker #2: The direct casino, so the slots growing very strongly and look, as we said a few times on the call, we're going to come into the year with a smaller sports space impacted table games, but look, I think as we've gone through the World Cup, seen that big step up in performance, the NBA finals, all the plans we've got for the football season, I think we're excited to see what we can do in the second half.
Speaker #6: Thank you.
Joseph Stauff: Thank you.
Clark Lampen: Thank you.
Operator: All right. Thank you, Clark. Our next question comes from the line of Joseph Stauff with Susquehanna. Joe, please go ahead.
Operator: All right. Thank you, Clark. Our next question comes from the line of Joseph Stauff with Susquehanna. Joe, please go ahead.
Speaker #1: All right. Thank you, Clark. And our next question comes from the line of Joe Stout with Susquehanna. Joe, please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Thanks. I just wanted to clarify a few things on your prediction market strategy at this point. You answered a couple. But do you expect to own your own exchange at some point?
Joseph Stauff: Thanks. I just wanted to clarify a few things on your prediction market strategy at this point. You answered a couple. Do you expect to own your own exchange at some point? Can you give us any Q2 volume or user metrics and the new One App that you're going to launch before the new sports season, will that include a traveling wallet?
Joe Stauff: Thanks. I just wanted to clarify a few things on your prediction market strategy at this point. You answered a couple. Do you expect to own your own exchange at some point? Can you give us any Q2 volume or user metrics and the new One App that you're going to launch before the new sports season, will that include a traveling wallet?
Speaker #7: Can you give us any 2Q volume or user metrics? And the new one app that you're going to launch before the new sports season, will that include a traveling wallet?
Peter Jackson: Okay. Thank you, Joe. This is a very fast-moving space, there's been news in the last few days around some of the complexities of market-making if you own some of the exchange components. We just got to be thoughtful that we position ourselves as well as we can. I think we're happy with the strategy that we have. As I say, the One App is going to deliver a real step change in performance from a customer perspective. In terms of the traveling app, look, if you have opened a contract up when you were in California and you're here in New York, you will be able to close that contract down. That is something that will be available. If that's what you mean by it, yes, we will have it available for customers. Rob, do you want to talk about the volumes?
Peter Jackson: Okay. Thank you, Joe. This is a very fast-moving space, there's been news in the last few days around some of the complexities of market-making if you own some of the exchange components. We just got to be thoughtful that we position ourselves as well as we can. I think we're happy with the strategy that we have. As I say, the One App is going to deliver a real step change in performance from a customer perspective. In terms of the traveling app, look, if you have opened a contract up when you were in California and you're here in New York, you will be able to close that contract down. That is something that will be available. If that's what you mean by it, yes, we will have it available for customers. Rob, do you want to talk about the volumes?
Speaker #2: Same thing. Thank you, Joe. Yeah, look, there are this is a very fast-moving space. And I mean, there's been news in the last few days around some of the complexities of market making.
Speaker #2: If you own some of the exchange components, we’ve just got to be thoughtful that we’re positioning ourselves as well as we can. I think we’re happy with the strategy that we have.
Speaker #2: As I say, the one app is going to deliver a real step change in performance from a customer perspective. And look, in terms of the traveling app, look, if you have opened a contract up when you were in California and you're here in New York, you will be able to close that contract down.
Speaker #2: That is something that will be available. So if that's what you mean by yes, we will have it available, for customers. Rob, do you want to talk about the volumes?
Speaker #4: Yeah. So the volumes are significantly up, but on quite a small base. So we're making really good progress as the predicted numbers are consolidated within our reported financial results.
Rob Coldrake: The volumes are significantly up, but on quite a small base. We're making really good progress. The Predict numbers are consolidated within our reported financial results, but we're not separately disclosing the volumes at this point in time. I think the catalyst for higher volumes we anticipate will be the launch of the One App. Peter and I were with the team a couple of weeks ago. It looks really slick. I think we're quite excited about the impact that that will have, and it will be relatively seamless if you're, say, traveling from New York to California. The wallets are separate, but it's very easy to switch between. I think the product experience is going to be significantly enhanced from where it was. The key for us is that we're going to have much more liquidity than we previously had.
Rob Coldrake: The volumes are significantly up, but on quite a small base. We're making really good progress. The Predict numbers are consolidated within our reported financial results, but we're not separately disclosing the volumes at this point in time. I think the catalyst for higher volumes we anticipate will be the launch of the One App. Peter and I were with the team a couple of weeks ago. It looks really slick. I think we're quite excited about the impact that that will have, and it will be relatively seamless if you're, say, traveling from New York to California. The wallets are separate, but it's very easy to switch between. I think the product experience is going to be significantly enhanced from where it was. The key for us is that we're going to have much more liquidity than we previously had.
Speaker #4: But we're not separately disclosing the volumes at this point in time. I think the catalyst for higher volumes, we anticipate will be the launch of the one app.
Speaker #4: Peter and I were with the team a couple of weeks ago. It looks really slick. I think we're quite excited about the impact that that will have.
Speaker #4: And it will be relatively seamless if you're traveling from New York to California. The wallets are separate, but it's very easy to switch between.
Speaker #4: So I think the product experience is going to be significantly enhanced from where it was. And the key for us is that we're going to have much more liquidity than we previously had.
Rob Coldrake: It's going to be a much fuller catalog. I think that's going to be a real benefit to us as we go into the new football and basketball season.
Rob Coldrake: It's going to be a much fuller catalog. I think that's going to be a real benefit to us as we go into the new football and basketball season.
Speaker #4: It's going to be a much fuller catalog. I think that's going to be a real benefit to us as we go into the new football and basketball season.
Speaker #7: Thank you.
Joseph Stauff: Thank you.
Joe Stauff: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Joe. And our next question comes from the line of Dan Politzer with JP Morgan. Dan, please go ahead.
Operator: Thanks, Joe. Our next question comes from the line of Dan Politzer with JPMorgan. Dan, please go ahead.
Operator: Thanks, Joe. Our next question comes from the line of Dan Politzer with JPMorgan. Dan, please go ahead.
Speaker #8: Hey, good morning, everyone, and thanks for the question. Just a clarification on the prediction market and how you think about the guidance there. I think your guidance now reflects 50 million of incremental EBITDA from market making.
Dan Politzer: Hey, good morning, everyone, thanks for the question. Just a clarification on the prediction market and how you think about the guidance there. I think your guidance now reflects GBP 50 million of incremental EBITDA from market-making. If I recall, your guidance for the full year was GBP 200 million to GBP 300 million of expected investment. I guess, given that you have this incremental piece, where does that put you in terms of the total investment you expect here for this year?
Dan Politzer: Hey, good morning, everyone, thanks for the question. Just a clarification on the prediction market and how you think about the guidance there. I think your guidance now reflects GBP 50 million of incremental EBITDA from market-making. If I recall, your guidance for the full year was GBP 200 million to GBP 300 million of expected investment. I guess, given that you have this incremental piece, where does that put you in terms of the total investment you expect here for this year?
Speaker #8: And if I recall, your guidance for the full year was 200 to 300 million of expected investment. So I guess given that you have this incremental piece, where does that kind of put you in terms of the total investment you expect here for this year?
Speaker #4: Yes, you're right. On the market making, Dan, as I said earlier, we're quite excited about that opportunity. And that's definitely increased quite a bit from where we were previously.
Rob Coldrake: Yes, you're right on the market-making, Dan. As I said earlier, we're quite excited about that opportunity, and that's definitely increased quite a bit from where we were previously. With regards to the investment on Predict, what we've done as a business in the last couple of quarters is really integrate Predict with the sportsbook proposition. We're no longer breaking out the investment separately. If you think about the cadence over the course of this year, our focus, as we said at Q1, was leaning more into making sure that we've got the right product experience, which we really feel like we're doing with the One App and some of the changes that we've made with Crypto.com being plugged in.
Rob Coldrake: Yes, you're right on the market-making, Dan. As I said earlier, we're quite excited about that opportunity, and that's definitely increased quite a bit from where we were previously. With regards to the investment on Predict, what we've done as a business in the last couple of quarters is really integrate Predict with the sportsbook proposition. We're no longer breaking out the investment separately. If you think about the cadence over the course of this year, our focus, as we said at Q1, was leaning more into making sure that we've got the right product experience, which we really feel like we're doing with the One App and some of the changes that we've made with Crypto.com being plugged in.
Speaker #4: With regards to the investment on predicts, what we've done as a business in the last couple of quarters is really integrate predicts with the sports book proposition.
Speaker #4: So we're no longer breaking out the investment separately. If you think about the cadence over the course of this year, our focus, as we said, at Q1 was leaning more into making sure that we've got the right product experience, which we really feel like we're doing with the one app and some of the changes that we've made with crypto.com being plugged in.
Speaker #4: From a cost perspective, then, this gives us this synergistic benefit that we've been looking for across the sports book and predicts where we feel that we can really get national scale and leverage on our marketing spend, which is very helpful for us.
Rob Coldrake: From a cost perspective, this gives us this synergistic benefit that we've been looking for across the sportsbook and Predict where we feel that we can really get national scale and leverage on our marketing spend, which is very helpful for us. In terms of the economics of how that pays back over time. That remains relatively consistent, we think, with how we've previously described them. We need to see how the new product lands in H2 and the traction that we get on the One App before we determine what the investment profile will be into the next year. Certainly, the synergistic benefits that we will get from having a broader sportsbook proposition, we think will stand us in very good stead.
Rob Coldrake: From a cost perspective, this gives us this synergistic benefit that we've been looking for across the sportsbook and Predict where we feel that we can really get national scale and leverage on our marketing spend, which is very helpful for us. In terms of the economics of how that pays back over time. That remains relatively consistent, we think, with how we've previously described them. We need to see how the new product lands in H2 and the traction that we get on the One App before we determine what the investment profile will be into the next year. Certainly, the synergistic benefits that we will get from having a broader sportsbook proposition, we think will stand us in very good stead.
Speaker #4: In terms of the economics of how that then pays back over time, that remains relatively consistent. We think with how we've previously described them, we need to see how the new product lands in the second half of the year and the traction that we get on the one app before we determine what the investment profile will be into the next year.
Speaker #4: But certainly, the synergistic benefits that we will get from having a broader sportsbook proposition, we think, will stand us in very good stead.
Speaker #8: Got it. Thanks so much. And Peter, best of luck.
Dan Politzer: Got it. Thanks so much. Peter, best of luck.
Dan Politzer: Got it. Thanks so much. Peter, best of luck.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Dan.
Peter Jackson: Thanks, Dan.
Peter Jackson: Thanks, Dan.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Dan. And our next question comes from the line of Monique Pollard with Citi. Monique, please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you, Dan. Our next question comes from the line of Monique Pollard with Citi. Monique, please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you, Dan. Our next question comes from the line of Monique Pollard with Citi. Monique, please go ahead.
Monique Pollard: Hi. Good morning, everybody. Thank you for taking my question.
Monique Pollard: Hi. Good morning, everybody. Thank you for taking my question.
Speaker #9: Hi, evening everybody. Thank you for taking my question. It was just if I could come back to the investment that you're putting in in the second half to accelerate the found your sports book momentum.
Operator: Yeah.
Monique Pollard: It was just if I could come back to the investment that you're putting in in H2 to accelerate the FanDuel sportsbook momentum. If I understood correctly, Rob, that investment is all centered around generosity. I think that's an additional 1.4% of last year's H2 handle that you're putting into promos. Promos last year in H2 were already 5.6% of handle. I'm just trying to make sure I'm understanding this correctly. We're going to go to 7% promos as a proportion of handle in H2. What kind of customer paybacks, et cetera, are you expecting on that? Do you see that as a one-off in H2, or might that continue as we go into H1 of 2027, please?
Monique Pollard: It was just if I could come back to the investment that you're putting in in H2 to accelerate the FanDuel sportsbook momentum. If I understood correctly, Rob, that investment is all centered around generosity. I think that's an additional 1.4% of last year's H2 handle that you're putting into promos. Promos last year in H2 were already 5.6% of handle. I'm just trying to make sure I'm understanding this correctly. We're going to go to 7% promos as a proportion of handle in H2. What kind of customer paybacks, et cetera, are you expecting on that? Do you see that as a one-off in H2, or might that continue as we go into H1 of 2027, please?
Speaker #9: So if I understood correctly, Rob, that investment is all centered around generosity. So I think that's an additional sort of 1.4% of last year's second-half handle that you're putting into promos.
Speaker #9: And promos last year in the second half were already 5.6% of handle. So I guess we're going to go—I'm just trying to make sure I'm saying this correctly.
Speaker #9: We're going to go to like 7% promos as a proportion of handle in the second half. So sort of what kind of customer payback, etc., are you expecting on that?
Speaker #9: And is that do you see that as a sort of one-off in the second half, or might that continue as we go into the first half, 27, please?
Speaker #4: Yeah, so let me start on the numbers. We won't be at 7% of handle in terms of generosity in the second half of the year.
Rob Coldrake: Let me start on the numbers, Monique. We won't be at 7% of handle in terms of generosity in H2 of the year. We are increasing in terms of our overall position, so it'd be closer to 6%. That's an increase on where we were last year. We previously anticipated that the profile would be slightly lower as we got traction around the FanDuel Rewards Club, et cetera. As we've said, this is a deliberate investment decision based on sportsbook momentum that we've currently got in business. A lot of that has been generated by this approach that we've taken in Q2, where we've been leaning in a bit more. We could have delivered higher EBITDA this year by investing less, but we don't think that's the right thing to maximize the long-term shareholder value.
Rob Coldrake: Let me start on the numbers, Monique. We won't be at 7% of handle in terms of generosity in H2 of the year. We are increasing in terms of our overall position, so it'd be closer to 6%. That's an increase on where we were last year. We previously anticipated that the profile would be slightly lower as we got traction around the FanDuel Rewards Club, et cetera. As we've said, this is a deliberate investment decision based on sportsbook momentum that we've currently got in business. A lot of that has been generated by this approach that we've taken in Q2, where we've been leaning in a bit more. We could have delivered higher EBITDA this year by investing less, but we don't think that's the right thing to maximize the long-term shareholder value.
Speaker #4: We are increasing in terms of our overall position, so it would be closer to 6%. That's an increase on where we were last year. We previously anticipated that the profile would be slightly lower as we got traction around the Rewards Club, etc., but as we've said, this is a deliberate investment decision based on the sportsbook momentum that we've currently got in the business.
Speaker #4: And a lot of that has been generated by this approach that we've taken in Q2 where we've been leaning in a bit more we could have delivered higher EBITDA this year by investing less, but we don't think that's the right thing to maximize the long-term shareholder value we're seeing great opportunity to invest behind the customer proposition.
Rob Coldrake: We're seeing great opportunity to invest behind the customer proposition, and that's coming through in current momentum. Even if you look at the last couple of weeks trading across MLB, I think last week we had our record week ever in MLB. We've got a huge number of reactivated customers on the platform. We're really happy with the apps that we've got in the ecosystem as we head towards NFL. The investment is a proactive one. It puts us slightly ahead of where we were last year in terms of customer generosity as a percentage of handle. We will review the spending as we always do as we go into next year. We're constantly looking at paybacks and the ROI that we're getting. If you look at those returns that we're getting at the moment, they are looking very attractive and we'll continue to lean in.
Rob Coldrake: We're seeing great opportunity to invest behind the customer proposition, and that's coming through in current momentum. Even if you look at the last couple of weeks trading across MLB, I think last week we had our record week ever in MLB. We've got a huge number of reactivated customers on the platform. We're really happy with the apps that we've got in the ecosystem as we head towards NFL. The investment is a proactive one. It puts us slightly ahead of where we were last year in terms of customer generosity as a percentage of handle. We will review the spending as we always do as we go into next year. We're constantly looking at paybacks and the ROI that we're getting. If you look at those returns that we're getting at the moment, they are looking very attractive and we'll continue to lean in.
Speaker #4: And that's coming through in current momentum. Even if you look at the last couple of weeks trading across MLB, I think last week we had our record week ever in MLB.
Speaker #4: We've got a huge number of reactivated customers on the platform, and we're really happy with the apps that we've got in the ecosystem as we head towards the NFL.
Speaker #4: So the investment is a proactive one. It puts us slightly ahead of where we were last year in terms of customer generosity as a percentage of handle.
Speaker #4: And we will review the spending as we always do as we go into next year. We're constantly looking at paybacks and the ROI that we're getting.
Speaker #4: But if you look at the those returns that we're getting at the moment, they are looking very attractive and we'll continue to lean in.
Speaker #2: And Monique, the one thing I'd just add is we know we didn't execute on our sort of generosity strategy as well as we could have done last year.
Peter Jackson: Monique, the one thing I'd just add is we know we didn't execute on our generosity strategy as well as we could have done last year, and I think we're in a much better place now. I think with this investment, with the better execution, with the loyalty plan, we are seeing improvements around our ability to drive and grow our ARPU, and that is an important focus for us alongside the AmCo as well.
Peter Jackson: Monique, the one thing I'd just add is we know we didn't execute on our generosity strategy as well as we could have done last year, and I think we're in a much better place now. I think with this investment, with the better execution, with the loyalty plan, we are seeing improvements around our ability to drive and grow our ARPU, and that is an important focus for us alongside the AmCo as well.
Speaker #2: And I think we're in a much better place now. I think with this investment, with better execution, and with the loyalty plan, we are seeing improvements around our ability to drive and grow our pool.
Speaker #2: And that is an important focus for us alongside the hand growth as well.
Monique Pollard: That's very clear. Thank you, and thanks for everything over the years, Peter.
Monique Pollard: That's very clear. Thank you, and thanks for everything over the years, Peter.
Speaker #9: That's very clear. Thank you. And thanks for everything over the years, Peter.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Monique.
Peter Jackson: Thanks, Monique.
Peter Jackson: Thanks, Monique.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Monique. And our next question comes from the line of Charlie Muir Sands with BNP Paribas. Charlie, please go ahead.
Operator: Thanks, Monique. Our next question comes from the line of Charlie Muir-Sands with BNP Paribas. Charlie, please go ahead.
Operator: Thanks, Monique. Our next question comes from the line of Charlie Muir-Sands with BNP Paribas. Charlie, please go ahead.
Speaker #8: Yeah, morning, gentlemen. Thank you for taking my questions. Firstly, just with respect to the incremental cost savings program, you obviously updated the restructuring cost charges to anticipate to incur in 2026.
Charlie Muir-Sands: Yeah, morning, gentlemen. Thank you for taking my questions. Firstly, just with respect to the incremental cost savings program, you obviously updated the restructuring cost charges you anticipate to incur in 2026. Is it fair to assume that there will be ongoing cash restructuring charges through 2027 and perhaps 2028 to deliver that 2029 saving? To link more broadly to that, has the board given Mr. Taylor a wider remit to review the corporate structure and strategy of the business, or should we see this as the evolution of the strategy from here and no likely further major changes to come soon? Thank you.
Charlie Muir-Sands: Yeah, morning, gentlemen. Thank you for taking my questions. Firstly, just with respect to the incremental cost savings program, you obviously updated the restructuring cost charges you anticipate to incur in 2026. Is it fair to assume that there will be ongoing cash restructuring charges through 2027 and perhaps 2028 to deliver that 2029 saving? To link more broadly to that, has the board given Mr. Taylor a wider remit to review the corporate structure and strategy of the business, or should we see this as the evolution of the strategy from here and no likely further major changes to come soon? Thank you.
Speaker #8: But is it fair to assume that there will be ongoing cash restructuring charges through '27 and perhaps '28 to deliver that 2029 saving? And to link more broadly to that, has the board given Mr. Taylor a kind of wider remit to review the corporate structure and strategy of the business, or should we see this as the evolution of the strategy from here and no likely further major changes to come?
Speaker #8: So thank you.
Speaker #4: Thanks, Charlie. Let me start with the cost investment and how we're thinking about it, and then maybe Peter can pick up on the second part of your question.
Rob Coldrake: Sorry, let me start with the cost investment and how we are thinking about it, and maybe Peter can pick up on the second part of your question. A couple of things to mention. Firstly, from our initial cost transformation program that we launched in 2024, it is important to note that we are actually tracking ahead of that. We have delivered all of the key component parts largely in terms of the activities. We have got the new UKI operating model in place. The Sky Bet migration is complete. The PokerStars transformation is going really well, and it is in its final stages. The Snai migration went really well earlier this year, so really pleased with that. With regards to the incremental GBP 500 million that we are talking about today, this really builds on that progress that we have made and reflects the next phase of how we intend to operate.
Rob Coldrake: Sorry, let me start with the cost investment and how we are thinking about it, and maybe Peter can pick up on the second part of your question. A couple of things to mention. Firstly, from our initial cost transformation program that we launched in 2024, it is important to note that we are actually tracking ahead of that. We have delivered all of the key component parts largely in terms of the activities. We have got the new UKI operating model in place. The Sky Bet migration is complete. The PokerStars transformation is going really well, and it is in its final stages. The Snai migration went really well earlier this year, so really pleased with that. With regards to the incremental GBP 500 million that we are talking about today, this really builds on that progress that we have made and reflects the next phase of how we intend to operate.
Speaker #4: So a couple of things to mention. Firstly, from our initial cost transformation program that we launched in 2024, it's important to note that we're actually tracking ahead of that.
Speaker #4: So we've delivered all of the key component parts, largely in terms of the activities. We've got the new UKI operating model in place, the SkyBet migrations complete, the Poke Stars transformations going really well, and it's at its final stages.
Speaker #4: And the SNI migration went really well earlier this year. So really pleased with that. With regards to the incremental 500 million dollars that we're talking about today, this really builds on that progress that we've made and reflects the next phase of how we intend to operate.
Speaker #4: This is about simplifying the organization. It's about leveraging our global scale more. It's about accelerating the use of technology and AI and continuing to remove duplication across the group.
Rob Coldrake: This is about simplifying the organization. It is about leveraging our global scale more. It is about accelerating the use of technology and AI and continuing to remove duplication across the group. If you look at our SDI guidance for this year, we have got GBP 100 million of cost badged against this
Rob Coldrake: This is about simplifying the organization. It is about leveraging our global scale more. It is about accelerating the use of technology and AI and continuing to remove duplication across the group. If you look at our SDI guidance for this year, we have got GBP 100 million of cost badged against this
Speaker #4: If you look at our SDI guidance for this year, we've got 100 million of cost badged against this, which is in conjunction with the US and the start of this program more broadly across the group.
Rob Coldrake: Which is in conjunction with the US and the start of this program more broadly across the group. Of course, there will be some additional one-off costs into 2027 and 2028. Typically, when we look at big restructuring programs, you look at a GBP of cost for a GBP of run rate savings. We actually think it will be lower on this because of the nature of the savings and the fact that a lot of them will be tech and AI driven. We think the cost will be lower. Yes, there will be some incremental costs into 2027 and 2028.
Rob Coldrake: Which is in conjunction with the US and the start of this program more broadly across the group. Of course, there will be some additional one-off costs into 2027 and 2028. Typically, when we look at big restructuring programs, you look at a GBP of cost for a GBP of run rate savings. We actually think it will be lower on this because of the nature of the savings and the fact that a lot of them will be tech and AI driven. We think the cost will be lower. Yes, there will be some incremental costs into 2027 and 2028.
Speaker #4: Of course, there'll be some additional one-off costs into '27 and '28. Typically, when we look at big restructuring programs, you look at a dollar of cost for a dollar of run rate savings.
Speaker #4: We're actually thinking it will be lower on this because of the nature of the savings and the fact that a lot of them will be tech and AI driven.
Speaker #4: So we think the cost will be lower. But yeah, yes, there will be some incremental costs into '27 and '28.
Peter Jackson: Charlie, in terms of your question around Dan and strategy. Look, Dan has been very involved in all of the strategy work that we have done as a group over the years and execution of the plans of the business. He is clearly very supportive of all the stuff that we are announcing today as well. I think you would expect to see a continuation of the strategy and the execution against it as he picks up the reins from 1 October.
Speaker #2: And Charlie, in terms of your question around Dan and strategy, Dan has been very involved in all of the strategy work that we've done as a group over the years and execution of the plans and the business.
Peter Jackson: Charlie, in terms of your question around Dan and strategy. Look, Dan has been very involved in all of the strategy work that we have done as a group over the years and execution of the plans of the business. He is clearly very supportive of all the stuff that we are announcing today as well. I think you would expect to see a continuation of the strategy and the execution against it as he picks up the reins from 1 October.
Speaker #2: It's clearly very supportive of all the stuff that we're announcing today as well. So I think that you'd expect to see a continuation of the strategy and the execution against it as he picks up the reins from the 1st of October.
Charlie Muir-Sands: Many thanks. Best of luck.
Charlie Muir-Sands: Many thanks. Best of luck.
Speaker #8: Thanks. Thanks the best of luck.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Charlie. And our next question comes from the line of Ian Moore with Bernstein. Ian, please go ahead.
Operator: Thanks, Charlie. Our next question comes from the line of Ian Moore with Bernstein. Ian, please go ahead.
Operator: Thanks, Charlie. Our next question comes from the line of Ian Moore with Bernstein. Ian, please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Hi. Thanks for taking my question. I guess just harping on kind of what Monique was asking about earlier. The, I guess, the incremental investment that you're putting into the generosity in the second half, obviously, given I guess Dan mentioned this a little bit earlier, but given the kind of missteps with managing generosity last NFL season, as you look into this NFL season, with this incremental investment, what would success kind of look like 12 months out as you're re-engaging customers going into the next NFL season or said it differently?
Ian Moore: Hi. Thanks for taking my question. I guess just harping on kind of what Monique was asking about earlier. The incremental investment that you're putting into the Generosity in H2. Obviously, Dan mentioned this a little bit earlier, but given the kind of missteps with managing Generosity last NFL season, as you look into this NFL season with this incremental investment, what would success look like 12 months out, as you're reengaging customers going into the next NFL season? Or said differently, what specifically is different about the setup into this NFL season versus last year? Thank you.
Ian Moore: Hi. Thanks for taking my question. I guess just harping on kind of what Monique was asking about earlier. The incremental investment that you're putting into the Generosity in H2. Obviously, Dan mentioned this a little bit earlier, but given the kind of missteps with managing Generosity last NFL season, as you look into this NFL season with this incremental investment, what would success look like 12 months out, as you're reengaging customers going into the next NFL season? Or said differently, what specifically is different about the setup into this NFL season versus last year? Thank you.
Speaker #2: What specifically is different about the setup into this NFL season versus last year? Thank you. Thanks, Ian. Look, I think you've answered the question to some extent yourself, right?
Peter Jackson: Thanks, Ian. Look, I think you've answered the question to some extent yourself. The missteps last year, we didn't apply and approach the Generosity strategy as well as we should have done, particularly in a very high margin sort of environment. We weren't there consistently for our customers. That is something we are addressing through the loyalty program, and I'm excited about the traction we're getting from that, the improvements in average player days, which of course translates into ARPU, and what customers are telling us about their perception of our Generosity as a consequence. We are investing more as we go into H2. I think it's the right thing to do to take advantage of the momentum we have in the business.
Peter Jackson: Thanks, Ian. Look, I think you've answered the question to some extent yourself. The missteps last year, we didn't apply and approach the Generosity strategy as well as we should have done, particularly in a very high margin sort of environment. We weren't there consistently for our customers. That is something we are addressing through the loyalty program, and I'm excited about the traction we're getting from that, the improvements in average player days, which of course translates into ARPU, and what customers are telling us about their perception of our Generosity as a consequence. We are investing more as we go into H2. I think it's the right thing to do to take advantage of the momentum we have in the business.
Speaker #2: So the missteps last year we didn't apply an approach the sort of of generosity strategy as well as we should have done, particularly in a very high margin sort of environment.
Speaker #2: We weren't there. We consistently—for our customers, that is something we are addressing through the loyalty program. And I'm excited about the traction we're getting from that, the improvements in average player days, which of course translates into our pool, and what customers are telling us about the perception of our generosity as a consequence.
Speaker #2: We are investing more as we go into the second half. I think it's the right thing to do to take advantage of the momentum we have in the business.
Speaker #2: And the test for us will be that as we come into 2027, do we have a bigger business with a better trajectory than we had anticipated?
Peter Jackson: The test for us will be as we come into 2027, do we have a bigger business with a better trajectory than we had anticipated? That's what we're planning for. We know that if we got better momentum, higher revenues in the business, it enables us to invest more behind delivering great product experiences for customers. We'll be able to really take advantage of the loyalty program and other features and offerings for them.
Peter Jackson: The test for us will be as we come into 2027, do we have a bigger business with a better trajectory than we had anticipated? That's what we're planning for. We know that if we got better momentum, higher revenues in the business, it enables us to invest more behind delivering great product experiences for customers. We'll be able to really take advantage of the loyalty program and other features and offerings for them.
Speaker #2: And that's what we're planning for. And we know that if we got better momentum, higher revenues in the business, it enables us to invest more behind delivering great product experiences for customers and we'll be able to really take advantage of the loyalty program and other features and offerings for them.
Ian Moore: Appreciate that. Thanks. Best of luck.
Ian Moore: Appreciate that. Thanks. Best of luck.
Speaker #4: Appreciate that. Thanks.
Speaker #8: Best of luck.
Peter Jackson: Awesome.
Peter Jackson: Awesome.
Speaker #4: Thanks.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Ian. And our next question comes from the line of Chad Bayman with McQuarrie Group. Chad, please go ahead.
Operator: Thanks, Ian. Our next question comes from the line of Chad Beynon with Macquarie Group. Chad, please go ahead.
Operator: Thanks, Ian. Our next question comes from the line of Chad Beynon with Macquarie Group. Chad, please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. And Peter, thanks for everything up to this point. Just with respect to US iGaming and sports betting regulation, I know the main iGaming law, I think, just took effect for 2027.
Chad Beynon: Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Peter, thanks for everything up to this point. Just with respect to US iGaming and sports betting regulation, I know the main iGaming law, I think, just took effect for 2027 launch. Partnerships with the tribes is the way that that was written. I know it's early, and a lot of this will come in the beginning of 2027, but how are you looking at prospects for iGaming or sports betting legalization in 2027? Thank you.
Chad Beynon: Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Peter, thanks for everything up to this point. Just with respect to US iGaming and sports betting regulation, I know the main iGaming law, I think, just took effect for 2027 launch. Partnerships with the tribes is the way that that was written. I know it's early, and a lot of this will come in the beginning of 2027, but how are you looking at prospects for iGaming or sports betting legalization in 2027? Thank you.
Speaker #7: "Launch partnerships with the tribes" is the way that was written. How are you looking—I know it's early, and a lot of this will come in the beginning of '27—but how are you looking at prospects for iGaming or sports betting legalization in '27?
Speaker #7: Thank you.
Peter Jackson: Chad, look, when we talked at the Capital Markets Day, we said we would hope to have one new iGaming state by 2027. Well, by the end of 2027. Look, I think we're optimistic. I think Virginia has probably got furthest of any of our target states. I think there's some interesting opportunities around DC. Then, there's a bunch of them where we're hoping to build traction, whether it's Ohio or other places we can mention. Look, we think it's going to happen, and there's some real pent-up demand for us to be able to deliver the income and product experience to customers in those states. Yeah.
Peter Jackson: Chad, look, when we talked at the Capital Markets Day, we said we would hope to have one new iGaming state by 2027. Well, by the end of 2027. Look, I think we're optimistic. I think Virginia has probably got furthest of any of our target states. I think there's some interesting opportunities around DC. Then, there's a bunch of them where we're hoping to build traction, whether it's Ohio or other places we can mention. Look, we think it's going to happen, and there's some real pent-up demand for us to be able to deliver the income and product experience to customers in those states. Yeah.
Speaker #2: Chad, look, when we talked at the campus markets day, we said we would hope to have one new iGaming state by '27. Well, by the end of '27.
Speaker #2: And look, I think we're optimistic. I think Virginia has probably got furthest of any of our target states. I think there's some interesting opportunities around DC.
Speaker #2: But then there are a bunch of them where we're hoping to build traction, whether it's Ohio or other places we can mention. So, look, we think it's—.
Speaker #2: It's going to happen, and there's some real pent-up demand for us to be able to deliver the sort of income and product experience to customers in those states.
Speaker #2: Yeah.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Appreciate it. Thanks, Chad.
Chad Beynon: Thank you. Appreciate it.
Chad Beynon: Thank you. Appreciate it.
Operator: Thanks, Chad.
Operator: Thanks, Chad.
Peter Jackson: Thanks.
Peter Jackson: Thanks.
Speaker #8: Thanks.
Speaker #1: And our next question comes from the line of Paul Reddy with Davey. Paul, please go ahead.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Paul Ruddy with Davy. Paul, please go ahead.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Paul Ruddy with Davy. Paul, please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Hi, Peter and Rob. Quick question on international, if that's okay. Just firstly on the UK and I, just how has the market progressed since the introduction of the iGaming tax?
Paul Ruddy: Hi, Peter and Rob. Quick question on international, if that's okay. Firstly, on the UK and I, how has the market progressed since the introduction of the iGaming tax? Have you seen any evidence of changing competitor behavior? General thoughts on mitigation. Maybe secondly then on Brazil still seems to be rather bumpy. Thoughts on continuing to invest there and when that market might start to improve for you. Thank you.
Paul Ruddy: Hi, Peter and Rob. Quick question on international, if that's okay. Firstly, on the UK and I, how has the market progressed since the introduction of the iGaming tax? Have you seen any evidence of changing competitor behavior? General thoughts on mitigation. Maybe secondly then on Brazil still seems to be rather bumpy. Thoughts on continuing to invest there and when that market might start to improve for you. Thank you.
Speaker #7: Have you seen any evidence of kind of changing competitor behavior and general thoughts on mitigation? And maybe just secondly then on Brazil, just Brazil still seems to be rather bumpy thoughts on continuing to invest there and when that market might start to improve here.
Speaker #7: Thank you.
Peter Jackson: Thank you, Paul. I think the important point that we flag is the sequential improvement we're seeing in Sky Gaming. I think customers have adapted to the new interface post-migration. We've had a very strong FIFA World Cup for all of our brands in the UK. I think we've obviously guided to our first order mitigants in the market. I think we're adapting our approach around that, probably taking a little bit more focus on headcount savings rather than marketing, because we want to maintain our posture in the market. We do think we're beginning to see some of our competitors pulling back as we anticipated. I think the second order mitigants are going to be significant, and we'll be well positioned to capitalize on those.
Peter Jackson: Thank you, Paul. I think the important point that we flag is the sequential improvement we're seeing in Sky Gaming. I think customers have adapted to the new interface post-migration. We've had a very strong FIFA World Cup for all of our brands in the UK. I think we've obviously guided to our first order mitigants in the market. I think we're adapting our approach around that, probably taking a little bit more focus on headcount savings rather than marketing, because we want to maintain our posture in the market. We do think we're beginning to see some of our competitors pulling back as we anticipated. I think the second order mitigants are going to be significant, and we'll be well positioned to capitalize on those.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Paul. I think the important point that we've sort of flagged is the sequential improvement we're seeing in Sky Gaming. I think customers have adapted to the new interface post-migration and we've had a very strong World Cup football of our brands in the UK.
Speaker #2: Look, I think we've obviously guided to our sort of first-order mitigants in the market, and I think we're adapting our approach around that—probably taking a little bit more focus on headcount savings rather than marketing, because we want to maintain our sort of posture in the market.
Speaker #2: We do think we’re beginning to see some of our competitors pulling back, as we anticipated. And so, look, I think the second-order mitigants are going to be significant, and we’ll be well positioned to capitalize on those.
Speaker #4: Yeah. In Brazil, Paul has already expressed excitement about our potential in this market. I think there are a number of improvements that we've implemented across the first half of the year.
Rob Coldrake: Yeah, in Brazil, Paul, we're still really excited about our potential in this market. I think there's a number of improvements that we've implemented across H1. We've got our product and pricing capabilities now, including bet builder in Brazil. The uptake on that has been very strong. We've improved the iGaming proposition and improved the generosity metrics around that. We're feeling quite confident about our product and how we set up into 2027. There is quite a moving feast with regards to the regulatory backdrop in Brazil. That's somewhat stifling the overall market growth. Within the context of that market, I think we're happy with our performance, and we're still encouraged about the medium to long-term opportunity there.
Rob Coldrake: Yeah, in Brazil, Paul, we're still really excited about our potential in this market. I think there's a number of improvements that we've implemented across H1. We've got our product and pricing capabilities now, including bet builder in Brazil. The uptake on that has been very strong. We've improved the iGaming proposition and improved the generosity metrics around that. We're feeling quite confident about our product and how we set up into 2027. There is quite a moving feast with regards to the regulatory backdrop in Brazil. That's somewhat stifling the overall market growth. Within the context of that market, I think we're happy with our performance, and we're still encouraged about the medium to long-term opportunity there.
Speaker #4: We've got our product and pricing capabilities now, including Bet Builder, in Brazil and the uptake on that has been very strong. We've improved the iGaming proposition and improved the generosity metrics.
Speaker #4: Around that. So we're feeling quite confident about our product and how we've set up into '27. There is quite a moving feast with regards to the regulatory backdrop in Brazil.
Speaker #4: And that's somewhat stifling the overall market growth. But within the context of that market, I think we're happy with our performance and we're still encouraged about the medium to long-term opportunity there.
Paul Ruddy: Okay. Thanks to both of you, and best of luck, Peter.
Paul Ruddy: Okay. Thanks to both of you, and best of luck, Peter.
Speaker #7: Okay. Thanks to both of you. And best of luck, Peter.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Paul.
Rob Coldrake: Thanks, Paul.
Rob Coldrake: Thanks, Paul.
Speaker #7: Cheers.
Paul Ruddy: Cheers.
Paul Ruddy: Cheers.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Paul. Our next question comes from the line of John DeCree with CBRE. John, please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you, Paul. Our next question comes from the line of John DeCree with CBRE. John, please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you, Paul. Our next question comes from the line of John DeCree with CBRE. John, please go ahead.
Speaker #8: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question and Peter. I'll pile on the congratulations. You've got quite a career at Flutter. Maybe kind of looking ahead, this is probably a prediction market TAM question, but when you kind of look at the comparable, the Bet Fair exchange in the UK and the US, and in states where predictions in sports coexist under a less vague regulatory environment, do you see anything in the US or US consumer where predictions could be a much bigger piece of the overall sports pool than you see in the UK?
John DeCree: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Peter, I'll pile on the congratulations. You've got quite a career at Flutter. Maybe kind of looking ahead, this is probably a prediction markets TAM question, but when you look at the comparable, the Betfair Exchange in the UK and the US, and in states where predictions in sports coexist under a less vague regulatory environment, do you see anything in the US or US consumer where predictions could be a much bigger piece of the overall sports pool than you see in the UK?
John DeCree: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Peter, I'll pile on the congratulations. You've got quite a career at Flutter. Maybe kind of looking ahead, this is probably a prediction markets TAM question, but when you look at the comparable, the Betfair Exchange in the UK and the US, and in states where predictions in sports coexist under a less vague regulatory environment, do you see anything in the US or US consumer where predictions could be a much bigger piece of the overall sports pool than you see in the UK?
Peter Jackson: Well, John, if we look at the UK or other markets like Italy or Brazil, where the Betfair Exchange coexists with other sportsbooks, we find that the exchange has pretty small market share, and that's primarily because of the inability to offer generosity through an exchange platform. Because the person that needs to provide the generosity is effectively the market maker, and they can't be confident they'll get the next bet from a customer if they've offered them some generosity back. I don't see that structure being any significantly different here in America. I think the extent to which you have Predix coexisting with regulated OSB, I'd expect to see the regulated OSB continue to take the vast majority of the business. Clearly, there are some niche areas, shops and stuff like that, where they will be more likely to take their volumes to the Predix-type platforms.
Peter Jackson: Well, John, if we look at the UK or other markets like Italy or Brazil, where the Betfair Exchange coexists with other sportsbooks, we find that the exchange has pretty small market share, and that's primarily because of the inability to offer generosity through an exchange platform. Because the person that needs to provide the generosity is effectively the market maker, and they can't be confident they'll get the next bet from a customer if they've offered them some generosity back. I don't see that structure being any significantly different here in America. I think the extent to which you have Predix coexisting with regulated OSB, I'd expect to see the regulated OSB continue to take the vast majority of the business. Clearly, there are some niche areas, shops and stuff like that, where they will be more likely to take their volumes to the Predix-type platforms.
Speaker #2: Well, John, if we look at the UK or other markets, like Italy or so Brazil, where the Bet Fair exchange coexists with other sports books, we find that the exchange has pretty small market share.
Speaker #2: And that's primarily because of the inability to offer sort of generosity through an exchange platform. Of course, the person that needs to provide the generosity is effectively the market maker, and they can't be confident they'll get the next bet from a customer if they've offered them some generosity back.
Speaker #2: And so I don't see that structure being any significantly different here in America. So I think the extent to which you have predicts coexisting with regulated OSB, I'd expect to see the regulated OSB continue to take the vast majority of the business.
Speaker #2: Clearly, there are some niche areas, shops and stuff like that where there will be more likely to take their volumes to the predicts-type platforms.
Speaker #2: But as we know, they're not things which the traditional bookmakers can make money from anyway.
Peter Jackson: As we know, they're not things which the traditional bookmakers can make money from anyway.
Peter Jackson: As we know, they're not things which the traditional bookmakers can make money from anyway.
Speaker #8: Very helpful. Thanks, Peter. And good luck.
John DeCree: Very helpful. Thanks, Peter, and good luck.
John DeCree: Very helpful. Thanks, Peter, and good luck.
Speaker #2: Thanks, John.
Rob Coldrake: Thanks, John.
Rob Coldrake: Thanks, John.
Speaker #1: Thank you, John. Ladies and gentlemen, we are running long, so we will conclude the Q&A session today. I would now like to turn the call back over to Peter Jackson for closing comments.
Operator: Thank you, John. Ladies and gentlemen, we are running along. We will conclude the Q&A session today. I would now like to turn the call back over to Peter Jackson for closing comments. Peter?
Operator: Thank you, John. Ladies and gentlemen, we are running along. We will conclude the Q&A session today. I would now like to turn the call back over to Peter Jackson for closing comments. Peter?
Speaker #1: Peter.
Peter Jackson: Okay. Thank you very much, Greg. Look, I'm sorry we've overrun you. You'd have thought that having done this 35 times, we would have got the hang of it by now. With apologies to those of you we didn't get to, the IR team are around and here to take any of your questions. Thank you very much, everybody, and I appreciate your support over the years.
Peter Jackson: Okay. Thank you very much, Greg. Look, I'm sorry we've overrun you. You'd have thought that having done this 35 times, we would have got the hang of it by now. With apologies to those of you we didn't get to, the IR team are around and here to take any of your questions. Thank you very much, everybody, and I appreciate your support over the years.
Speaker #2: Okay. Thank you very much, Greg. And look, I'm sorry we've overrun you. I just thought that having done this 35 times, we would have got the hang of it by now.
Speaker #2: So, with apologies to those of you who didn't get to the IR team, we're around and here to take any of your questions. Thank you very much, everybody.
Speaker #2: And I appreciate your support over the years.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Peter. And ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining, and you may now disconnect. Have a great day, everyone.
Operator: Thanks, Peter. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining, and you may now disconnect. Have a great day, everyone.
Operator: Thanks, Peter. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining, and you may now disconnect. Have a great day, everyone.
