Half Year 2026 Antofagasta PLC Earnings Call
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Speaker #3: Hello and welcome to Antofagasta's 2026 half-year results call. We will start today's session with the short introduction for Antofagasta to be followed by a question-and-answer session.
Operator 2: Hello, and welcome to Antofagasta's 2026 H1 results call. We will start today's session with a short introduction for Antofagasta, to be followed by a question and answer session. If you have a question, we ask that you please use the raise hand function at the bottom of your Zoom screen. If you have joined us via telephone, please press star nine to raise your hand and star six to unmute and mute. Once your name has been announced, you may unmute and ask a question. Please stay muted when not asking a question. You may also type a written question at any time in the Q&A box at the bottom of the screen. I will now hand you over to Rob Simmons in Antofagasta's London office to introduce today's speakers.
Operator: Hello, and welcome to Antofagasta's 2026 H1 results call. We will start today's session with a short introduction for Antofagasta, to be followed by a question and answer session. If you have a question, we ask that you please use the raise hand function at the bottom of your Zoom screen. If you have joined us via telephone, please press star nine to raise your hand and star six to unmute and mute. Once your name has been announced, you may unmute and ask a question. Please stay muted when not asking a question. You may also type a written question at any time in the Q&A box at the bottom of the screen. I will now hand you over to Rob Simmons in Antofagasta's London office to introduce today's speakers.
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Speaker #3: I'll now hand you over to Rob Simmons in Antofagasta's London office to introduce today's speakers.
Speaker #4: Thank you. Good morning, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to our half-year call for 2026. We are here today with our Chief Executive, Ivan Herrera, our CFO, Mauricio Ortiz, and our Vice President of Sustainability, Alejandra Villal.
Rob Simmons: Thank you. Good morning, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to our H1 call for 2026. We are here today with our Chief Executive, Iván Arriagada, our CFO, Mauricio Ortiz, and our Vice President of Sustainability, Alejandra Vial. In terms of process today, Iván will start with a short introduction, and then we will move straight into Q&A, and we will aim to wrap up within one hour. Iván, over to you.
Rob Simmons: Thank you. Good morning, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to our H1 call for 2026. We are here today with our Chief Executive, Iván Arriagada, our CFO, Mauricio Ortiz, and our Vice President of Sustainability, Alejandra Vial. In terms of process today, Iván will start with a short introduction, and then we will move straight into Q&A, and we will aim to wrap up within one hour. Iván, over to you.
Speaker #4: In terms of process today, Ivan will start with a short introduction, and then we'll move straight into Q&A. We'll aim to wrap up within one hour.
Speaker #4: Ivan, over to you.
Speaker #5: Thank you, Rob. And hello everyone and thank you for joining. This year's results call. I know you will have seen this morning the release and presentation but before I take your questions, as Rob was mentioning, I would like to say a few highlights about the results of the first half of 2026.
Iván Arriagada: Thank you, Rob, and hello, everyone, and thank you for joining this year's results call. I know you will have seen this morning the release and presentation. Before I take your questions, as Rob was mentioning, I would like to say a few highlights about the results of the H1 of 2026. Firstly, I would like to start with safety, as we always do. This remains our first priority and the foundation of our strategy. I am pleased to share with you that we have now completed five years without a fatal or serious accident across our operations and projects, and this is and remains our key priority. This safety culture also guided us to the orderly response that we had to the severe weather condition that we experienced at Pelambres in July, and we will refer more to that during the call.
Iván Arriagada: Thank you, Rob, and hello, everyone, and thank you for joining this year's results call. I know you will have seen this morning the release and presentation. Before I take your questions, as Rob was mentioning, I would like to say a few highlights about the results of the H1 of 2026. Firstly, I would like to start with safety, as we always do. This remains our first priority and the foundation of our strategy. I am pleased to share with you that we have now completed five years without a fatal or serious accident across our operations and projects, and this is and remains our key priority. This safety culture also guided us to the orderly response that we had to the severe weather condition that we experienced at Pelambres in July, and we will refer more to that during the call.
Speaker #5: Firstly, I would like to start with safety as we always do. This remains a first priority and the foundation of our strategy. And I am pleased to share with you that we have now completed 5 years without a fatal or serious accident across our operations and projects, and this is and remains our key priority.
Speaker #5: This safety culture also guided us to the orderly response that we had to the severe weather condition that we experienced at Palambres in July, and we will refer more to that during the call.
Speaker #5: The resumption of the operations at the mine progressed in a safe and orderly manner, and we will talk about that a bit more. Going now to the first half of the year, the first half was marked by another period of strong performance.
Iván Arriagada: The resumption of the operations at the mine progressed in a safe and orderly manner, and we will talk about that a bit more. Going now to the H1 of the year. The H1 was marked by another period of strong performance for Antofagasta with operational discipline and favorable pricing translating into a 27% increase in EBITDA to $2.84 billion and an industry-leading EBITDA margin of 63%, which is amongst the highest that we've ever recorded. Cash flow from operations was up also 53%. All of this enabled us to continue to deliver value to our shareholders through an interim dividend, which is consistent with our policy of 35% minimum earning distribution of $0.301, which represent an 80% or 81% increase on last year. We've delivered, according to our policy, an increase of above 80% on our dividend.
Iván Arriagada: The resumption of the operations at the mine progressed in a safe and orderly manner, and we will talk about that a bit more. Going now to the H1 of the year. The H1 was marked by another period of strong performance for Antofagasta with operational discipline and favorable pricing translating into a 27% increase in EBITDA to $2.84 billion and an industry-leading EBITDA margin of 63%, which is amongst the highest that we've ever recorded. Cash flow from operations was up also 53%. All of this enabled us to continue to deliver value to our shareholders through an interim dividend, which is consistent with our policy of 35% minimum earning distribution of $0.301, which represent an 80% or 81% increase on last year. We've delivered, according to our policy, an increase of above 80% on our dividend.
Speaker #5: For Antofagasta, with operational discipline and favorable pricing, translating into a 27% increase in EBITDA to 2.84 billion. And an industry-leading EBITDA margin of 63%, which is amongst the highest that we've ever recorded.
Speaker #5: Cash flow from operations was up also 53%. All of this enabled us to continue to deliver value to our shareholders through an interim dividend, which is consistent with our policy of 35% minimum earning distribution, of 30.1 cents, which represents an 80% or 81% increase on last year.
Speaker #5: So we've delivered according to our policy an increase of above 80% on our dividend. Now, during this period, we've also seen as you know is well known inflationary pressures across the sector, particularly for inputs like diesel and sulfuric acid.
Iván Arriagada: Now, during this period, we've also seen, as is well known, inflationary pressures across the sector, particularly for inputs like diesel and sulfuric acid. But despite this, we've delivered a reduction in net cash cost of 8%, reflecting our cost discipline, productivity gains, and our meaningful by-product contributions, which is a very key element of both Centinela and Pelambres districts. As a result, our full-year guidance for net cash costs remains unchanged for the year, between $1.15 and $1.35 per pound. Now, due to the impact of the storms last month, and in anticipation of harsher-than-normal winter, full-year copper production is now expected to be in the range of 625,000 to 655,000 tons for the year. Our strong balance sheet remains a key feature of Antofagasta, and we are very well-placed to deliver value through our leading organic copper growth pipeline. We have this pipeline fully funded.
Iván Arriagada: Now, during this period, we've also seen, as is well known, inflationary pressures across the sector, particularly for inputs like diesel and sulfuric acid. But despite this, we've delivered a reduction in net cash cost of 8%, reflecting our cost discipline, productivity gains, and our meaningful by-product contributions, which is a very key element of both Centinela and Pelambres districts. As a result, our full-year guidance for net cash costs remains unchanged for the year, between $1.15 and $1.35 per pound. Now, due to the impact of the storms last month, and in anticipation of harsher-than-normal winter, full-year copper production is now expected to be in the range of 625,000 to 655,000 tons for the year. Our strong balance sheet remains a key feature of Antofagasta, and we are very well-placed to deliver value through our leading organic copper growth pipeline. We have this pipeline fully funded.
Speaker #5: But despite this, we've delivered a reduction in net cash cost of 8%, reflecting our cost discipline, productivity gains, and our meaningful by-product contributions, which is a very key element of both Centinela and Palambres districts.
Speaker #5: As a result, our full-year guidance for net cash cost remains unchanged for the year, between $1.15 and $1.35 per pound. Now, due to the impact of the storms last month and an in anticipation of harsher-than-normal winter, full-year copper production is now expected to be in the range of $625 to $655,000 tons for the year.
Speaker #5: Our strong balance sheet remains a key feature of Antofagasta, and we are very well placed to deliver value through our leading organic copper growth pipeline.
Speaker #5: We have this pipeline fully funded. It's a low-risk brownfield growth program, which is intended to deliver a 30% increase in volume once commissioning is complete in 2027.
Iván Arriagada: It's a low-risk brownfield growth program, which is intended to deliver a 30% increase in volume once commissioning is complete in 2027. I'm pleased to report that construction and pre-commissioning activities, both at the second concentrator at Centinela and in the future growth-enabling projects at Pelambres, remain on track. At Zaldívar during the period, we also approved a $900 million investment in a water pipeline to transition away from continental water by mid-2028, securing a stable future and supporting potential life mine extension to 2051. Just to close now, let me say a few words about the market. Copper is increasingly essential to global growth, driven by long-term macro trends, which we have covered in the past, electrification, grid expansion, new technologies like AI and data centers.
Iván Arriagada: It's a low-risk brownfield growth program, which is intended to deliver a 30% increase in volume once commissioning is complete in 2027. I'm pleased to report that construction and pre-commissioning activities, both at the second concentrator at Centinela and in the future growth-enabling projects at Pelambres, remain on track. At Zaldívar during the period, we also approved a $900 million investment in a water pipeline to transition away from continental water by mid-2028, securing a stable future and supporting potential life mine extension to 2051. Just to close now, let me say a few words about the market. Copper is increasingly essential to global growth, driven by long-term macro trends, which we have covered in the past, electrification, grid expansion, new technologies like AI and data centers.
Speaker #5: And I'm pleased to report that construction and pre-commissioning activities, both at the second concentrator at Centinela and in the future growth-enabling projects at Palambre, remain on track.
Speaker #5: As Saldívar, during the period, we also approved a $900 million investment in a water pipeline to water by mid-2028, securing a stable future and supporting potential live mine extension to 2051.
Speaker #5: And just to close now, let me say a few words about the market. Copper is increasingly essential to global growth, driven by long-term macro trends, which we have covered in the past: electrification, grid expansion, new technologies like AI and data centers.
Speaker #5: Global copper demand is expected to grow between now and 2035 by approximately 8 million tons. While copper supply is expected to grow by about 4 million tons.
Iván Arriagada: Global copper demand is expected to grow between now and 2035 by approximately 8 million tons, while copper supply is expected to grow by about 4 million tons. This gap makes it clear that there will likely be a copper shortfall over the medium term of significance. We think with our industry-leading program for tier 1 copper mines in a premier jurisdiction, we are confident that we're well and uniquely positioned to capture this long-term value opportunity. Against this good market background, in summary, we've had a good set of financial results for the H1. We remain on track for our projects and therefore have continued to deliver our results. With that, I'll pass back to the operator for any questions that you might have.
Iván Arriagada: Global copper demand is expected to grow between now and 2035 by approximately 8 million tons, while copper supply is expected to grow by about 4 million tons. This gap makes it clear that there will likely be a copper shortfall over the medium term of significance. We think with our industry-leading program for tier 1 copper mines in a premier jurisdiction, we are confident that we're well and uniquely positioned to capture this long-term value opportunity. Against this good market background, in summary, we've had a good set of financial results for the H1. We remain on track for our projects and therefore have continued to deliver our results. With that, I'll pass back to the operator for any questions that you might have.
Speaker #5: So this gap makes it clear that there will likely be a copper shortfall over the medium term of significance. And we think, with our industry-leading program for Tier 1 copper mines in a premier jurisdiction, we are confident that we're well and uniquely positioned to capture this long-term value opportunity.
Speaker #5: So, against this good market background, in summary, we've had a good set of financial results for the first half. We remain on track for our projects, and therefore have continued to deliver our results.
Speaker #5: So with that, I'll pass back to the operator for any questions. That you might have.
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Speaker #5: Good morning, guys. Buenos días. Thanks for the call today. Look, two questions from me. The first one is on the Centinela project. Second, just on the impact of the storms.
Jason Fairclough: Good morning, guys. Buenos dias. Thanks for the call today. Look, two questions from me. The first one is on the Centinela project. Second, just on the impact of the storms. On Centinela, I have a couple of bears on the stock who are saying that you have quietly pushed this back a little bit, that the ramp-up is now drifting, and it is really the ramp-up is not going to start until the year after next. Is that the right way to read it? If that is true, is there any cost impact from this?
Jason Fairclough: Good morning, guys. Buenos dias. Thanks for the call today. Look, two questions from me. The first one is on the Centinela project. Second, just on the impact of the storms. On Centinela, I have a couple of bears on the stock who are saying that you have quietly pushed this back a little bit, that the ramp-up is now drifting, and it is really the ramp-up is not going to start until the year after next. Is that the right way to read it? If that is true, is there any cost impact from this?
Speaker #5: So on Centinela, I've got a couple of bears on the stock who are saying that you've quietly pushed this back a little bit, that the ramp-up is now drifting and it's really the ramp-up is not going to start until the year after next.
Speaker #5: Is that the right way to read it? And if that's true, is there any cost impact from this? Okay. Let me address that. I think Jason and thanks for joining the call.
Iván Arriagada: Okay. Let me address that. I think, Jason, and thanks for joining the call. The Centinela second concentrator project is progressing very well in terms of its construction, and there are even for some subsystems, pre-commissioning activities taking place. We have always said that 2027 is the year in which we will fully complete the commissioning activities and commence the ramp-up, and therefore that is unchanged. So we are not indicating any change with respect to that. We have not been precise about the timing in which that cutoff between commissioning and ramp-up will commence, but we will be more specific as we continue to advance the project and move towards completion. But it is intended that the commissioning and the ramp-up both happen in 2027. I mean, the beginning of the ramp-up.
Iván Arriagada: Okay. Let me address that. I think, Jason, and thanks for joining the call. The Centinela second concentrator project is progressing very well in terms of its construction, and there are even for some subsystems, pre-commissioning activities taking place. We have always said that 2027 is the year in which we will fully complete the commissioning activities and commence the ramp-up, and therefore that is unchanged. So we are not indicating any change with respect to that. We have not been precise about the timing in which that cutoff between commissioning and ramp-up will commence, but we will be more specific as we continue to advance the project and move towards completion. But it is intended that the commissioning and the ramp-up both happen in 2027. I mean, the beginning of the ramp-up.
Speaker #5: The Centinela second concentrator project is progressing very well in terms of its construction and there are even some subsystems, pre-commissioning activities taking place. Now, we've always said that 2027 is the year in which we will complete fully complete the commissioning activities and commence the ramp-up.
Speaker #5: And therefore, that is unchanged. So we're not indicating any change with respect to that. We've not been precise about the timing in which that cutoff between commissioning and ramp-up will commence.
Speaker #5: But we will be more specific as we sort of continue to advance the project and move towards completion. But it's intended that the commissioning and the ramp-up both happen in 2027.
Speaker #5: I mean, the beginning of the ramp-up. So when exactly will that happen is something that we will share as we sort of move towards completion of the commissioning phase next year.
Iván Arriagada: When exactly will that happen is something that we will share as we move towards completion of the commissioning phase next year. But from that point of view, the project is advancing well, and there is no change.
Iván Arriagada: When exactly will that happen is something that we will share as we move towards completion of the commissioning phase next year. But from that point of view, the project is advancing well, and there is no change.
Speaker #5: But no, there is from that point of view, the project is advancing well and there is no change. Makes sense. Okay. And the storms, just to be clear, you mentioned the storms at the beginning.
Jason Fairclough: Makes sense. Okay.
Jason Fairclough: Makes sense. Okay.
Iván Arriagada: The storms, just to be clear, you mentioned the storms at the beginning. I would say that the storms that we had, which are quite unique in nature, have impacted primarily the central part of Chile, so not the north of Chile. So we did not see meaningful impact in Antucoya, Zaldívar or Centinela. As I say, they were focused on the central part of Chile, and primarily, in fact, in the region where Pelambres is located. Amongst the central regions that were impacted, where Pelambres is, was the only one which was considered a state of catastrophe by the government, considering the impact of the snow and the water in that region, in elements like public road and other public infrastructure.
Iván Arriagada: The storms, just to be clear, you mentioned the storms at the beginning. I would say that the storms that we had, which are quite unique in nature, have impacted primarily the central part of Chile, so not the north of Chile. So we did not see meaningful impact in Antucoya, Zaldívar or Centinela. As I say, they were focused on the central part of Chile, and primarily, in fact, in the region where Pelambres is located. Amongst the central regions that were impacted, where Pelambres is, was the only one which was considered a state of catastrophe by the government, considering the impact of the snow and the water in that region, in elements like public road and other public infrastructure.
Speaker #5: The I would say that the storms that we had, which are quite unique in nature, have impacted primarily the central part of Chile, so not the north of Chile.
Speaker #5: So we did not see meaningful impact in Antucoya, Saldívar, or Centinela. And, as I say, they were focused on the central part of Chile.
Speaker #5: And primarily, in fact, in the region where Palambre is located. Amongst the central regions that were impacted, where Palambre is, was the only one which was considered a state of catastrophe by the government, considering the impact of the snow and the water in that region in elements like public road and other public infrastructure.
Speaker #5: Just a follow-up, Ivan. So you're saying it was quite let's say regionalized to the Palambre region. I know you have lots of contacts across the industry.
Jason Fairclough: Just to follow up, Iván. So, you are saying it was quite, let us say, regionalized to the Pelambres region. I know you have lots of contacts across the industry. Is there anything else that we should think about that might be coming down the pipeline that maybe people have not fully understood in terms of the impact? And I guess with that, do you feel like your new guidance is conservative or is there more downside risk?
Jason Fairclough: Just to follow up, Iván. So, you are saying it was quite, let us say, regionalized to the Pelambres region. I know you have lots of contacts across the industry. Is there anything else that we should think about that might be coming down the pipeline that maybe people have not fully understood in terms of the impact? And I guess with that, do you feel like your new guidance is conservative or is there more downside risk?
Speaker #5: Is there anything else that we should think about that might be coming down the pipeline that maybe people haven't fully understood in terms of the impact?
Speaker #5: And I guess with that, do you feel like your new guidance is conservative or is there more downside risk?
Speaker #4: I think the way that we've looked at this is that we are sort of halfway through winter. So there's still a period of winter that needs to be completed.
Iván Arriagada: I think, the way that we look at this is that we are sort of halfway through winter, so there's still a period of winter that needs to be completed, which could bring severe weather condition. The key issue is that we've got the El Niño phenomenon now happening. It does not happen every year. But this year it's been here and it's been extremely severe. Just to put things in perspective, in the region where Pelambres is, and for Pelambres, in fact, this has been the more severe weather event in its history. So, in the guidance that we've built, we've got essentially the ramp-up of activities. In essence, in some places in the mine, we are continuing to do that as we sort of remove the snow and prudently ensure that the conditions which are in place are safe to operate.
Iván Arriagada: I think, the way that we look at this is that we are sort of halfway through winter, so there's still a period of winter that needs to be completed, which could bring severe weather condition. The key issue is that we've got the El Niño phenomenon now happening. It does not happen every year. But this year it's been here and it's been extremely severe. Just to put things in perspective, in the region where Pelambres is, and for Pelambres, in fact, this has been the more severe weather event in its history. So, in the guidance that we've built, we've got essentially the ramp-up of activities. In essence, in some places in the mine, we are continuing to do that as we sort of remove the snow and prudently ensure that the conditions which are in place are safe to operate.
Speaker #4: Which could bring severe weather condition. And the key issue is that we've got the El Niño phenomenon now happening. It does not happen every year, but this year it's been here and it's been extremely severe.
Speaker #4: Just to put things in perspective, in the region where Palambre is and for Palambre, in fact, this has been the more severe weather event in its history.
Speaker #4: So in the guidance that we've built, we've got essentially the ramp-up of activities. And in essence, in some places in the mine, we are continuing to do that as we sort of remove the snow and prudently ensure that the conditions which are in place are safe to operate.
Speaker #4: But we've built into the guidance as well a contingency possibility that there is a weather condition which continues to be adverse throughout the balance of the winter.
Iván Arriagada: But we've built into the guidance as well, a contingency possibility that there is a weather condition which continues to be adverse throughout the balance of the winter. So, we think of it, and you should think of it in that way. It does factor in the fact that we still have a period to go, and we could have bad weather in that period, and therefore, that's factored into the range as we have disclosed it.
Iván Arriagada: But we've built into the guidance as well, a contingency possibility that there is a weather condition which continues to be adverse throughout the balance of the winter. So, we think of it, and you should think of it in that way. It does factor in the fact that we still have a period to go, and we could have bad weather in that period, and therefore, that's factored into the range as we have disclosed it.
Speaker #4: So we think of it and you should think of it in that way it does factor in the fact that we still have a period to go and we could have bad weather in that period.
Speaker #4: And therefore, that's factored into the range as we have disclosed it.
Speaker #5: Okay. Fantastic. Thanks very much, Ivan.
Jason Fairclough: Okay. Fantastic. Thanks very much, Iván.
Jason Fairclough: Okay. Fantastic. Thanks very much, Iván.
Speaker #6: Thank you. Our next question comes from Anne Rousseau with Barclays. Please unmute to ask your question.
Operator 2: Thank you. Our next question comes from Ian Rossouw with Barclays. Please unmute to ask your question.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Ian Rossouw with Barclays. Please unmute to ask your question.
Speaker #7: Thanks, everyone. Can you guys see me? Hello?
Ian Rossouw: Thanks, everyone. Can you guys see me? Hello?
Ian Rossouw: Thanks, everyone. Can you guys see me? Hello?
Iván Arriagada: No. We can hear you well, but we can't see you. Yeah.
Iván Arriagada: No. We can hear you well, but we can't see you. Yeah.
Speaker #5: No, but we can hear you well, but we can't see you.
Ian Rossouw: Oh, I don't have a video button to press, but thanks very much. Just wanted to follow up on Jason Fairclough's question. Obviously, if you look in the status update, you've omitted the sentence, "The project remains on budget and on schedule." You give a bit more details about the additional works that's required in the flotation and concentrator area due to geotechnical work. Can you maybe just give a bit more color on that, please? It seems like the storm issues at Pelambres was only part of the explanation for the downgrade, and I guess you've given a bit more color on your conservatism going forward. I just wanted to get a sense of, was there anything else, I guess, that's been tracking slightly below budgets, in terms of grade or mine plans, and how we should think about that going into 2027?
Ian Rossouw: Oh, I don't have a video button to press, but thanks very much. Just wanted to follow up on Jason Fairclough's question. Obviously, if you look in the status update, you've omitted the sentence, "The project remains on budget and on schedule." You give a bit more details about the additional works that's required in the flotation and concentrator area due to geotechnical work. Can you maybe just give a bit more color on that, please? It seems like the storm issues at Pelambres was only part of the explanation for the downgrade, and I guess you've given a bit more color on your conservatism going forward. I just wanted to get a sense of, was there anything else, I guess, that's been tracking slightly below budgets, in terms of grade or mine plans, and how we should think about that going into 2027?
Speaker #7: All right. I don't have a video button to press, but thanks very much. I just wanted to follow up on Jason's question. Obviously, if you look in the sort of status update, you've omitted the sentence, "The project remains on budget and on schedule."
Speaker #7: So, can you give a bit more detail about the additional work that's required in the flotation and concentrator areas due to geotechnical work? Can you maybe just give a bit more color on that, please?
Speaker #7: And it seems like the storm issues at Palambre was only part of the explanation for the downgrade. And I guess you've given a bit more color on your conservatism going forward.
Speaker #7: But just wanted to get a sense of was there anything else, I guess, that's been tracking slightly below budgets in terms of grade or mine plans?
Speaker #7: And how we should think about that going into 2027. If you look at the slide deck from your site visits, I think you were sort of intimating let's say roughly a four or five percent increase in production into 27.
Ian Rossouw: If you look at the slide deck from your site visit, I think you were sort of intimating, let's say, roughly a 4% or 5% increase in production into 2027. Should we still expect that, or does small delay at the Centinela concentrator basically mean production might be flat? Thank you.
Ian Rossouw: If you look at the slide deck from your site visit, I think you were sort of intimating, let's say, roughly a 4% or 5% increase in production into 2027. Should we still expect that, or does small delay at the Centinela concentrator basically mean production might be flat? Thank you.
Speaker #7: Should we still expect that, or does a small delay at the Centinela concentrator basically mean production might be flat? Thank you.
Speaker #5: Yeah. Okay. With respect to the let me address first the weather event. As I said before, in the case of Palambre, we've sort of built the contingency component of the balance of the weather period that's still behind.
Iván Arriagada: Yeah. Okay. Let me address first the weather event. As I said before, in the case of Pelambres, we've sort of built the contingency component of the balance of the weather period that's still behind. Just to address your comment, what we've seen, in essence, is that recovery of the full production at the mine. Because we're doing it, as I said before, in a safe and prudent and orderly way, it does take or span a bit longer time. To put things in perspective, the amount of snow that we've seen in the mine is about 5 million cubic meters. That is material that needs to be removed, and so we're orderly doing that. We're back into the main phases, but there are phases in the mine that we still have to fully clear. Therefore, what we will see is a shift in grade.
Iván Arriagada: Yeah. Okay. Let me address first the weather event. As I said before, in the case of Pelambres, we've sort of built the contingency component of the balance of the weather period that's still behind. Just to address your comment, what we've seen, in essence, is that recovery of the full production at the mine. Because we're doing it, as I said before, in a safe and prudent and orderly way, it does take or span a bit longer time. To put things in perspective, the amount of snow that we've seen in the mine is about 5 million cubic meters. That is material that needs to be removed, and so we're orderly doing that. We're back into the main phases, but there are phases in the mine that we still have to fully clear. Therefore, what we will see is a shift in grade.
Speaker #5: And just to address your comment, what we've seen, in essence, is that recovery of the full production at the mine—because we're doing it, as I said before, in a safe and prudent and orderly way—does take, or span, a bit longer time.
Speaker #5: To put things in perspective, the amount of snow that we've seen in the mine is about five million cubic meters. So that has it's material that needs to be removed.
Speaker #5: And so we're orderly doing that. So we're back into the main phases, but there are phases in the mine that we still have to fully clear, and therefore what we will see is a shift in grade.
Speaker #5: Because we were into a zone in which we have progressively higher grade through the balance of the year, some of that will shift will be deferred and we will be picking up either towards the very end of the year or early next year.
Iván Arriagada: Because we were into a zone in which we have a progressively higher grade through the balance of the year. Some of that will shift, will be deferred, and we will be picking up either towards the very end of the year or early next year. Therefore, the guidance does reflect that. So it's the impact of the days that we've been down, plus it's the fact that the activity in the mine will resume and is resuming with certain progression, which means that the grade that we had expected will probably see some deferral, and that's factored into the guidance range. Now, with respect to the Centinela project, as I mentioned before, the project is progressing well.
Iván Arriagada: Because we were into a zone in which we have a progressively higher grade through the balance of the year. Some of that will shift, will be deferred, and we will be picking up either towards the very end of the year or early next year. Therefore, the guidance does reflect that. So it's the impact of the days that we've been down, plus it's the fact that the activity in the mine will resume and is resuming with certain progression, which means that the grade that we had expected will probably see some deferral, and that's factored into the guidance range. Now, with respect to the Centinela project, as I mentioned before, the project is progressing well.
Speaker #5: And therefore, the guidance does reflect that. So it's the impact of the days that we've been down, plus the fact that the activity in the mine will resume and is resuming with certain progression, which means that the grade that we had expected will probably see some deferral.
Speaker #5: And that's factored into the guidance range. Now, with respect to the Centinela project, as I mentioned before, the project is progressing well. I think our project schedule calls for completion of commissioning in 2027.
Iván Arriagada: I think our project schedule calls for completion of commissioning in 2027, and I think we've been consistent in that, and there is no change to that timeline, nor are we envisaging a change in the project cost as disclosed in the table that you have and which is included in the release. So we're not seeing any change there. We are obviously approaching the end of construction as we sort of moved into the H2 and into 2027, which are the more challenging work streams because they involve integrating subsystems, they involve doing pre-commissioning tests and the like. But the fact that we remain on schedule and on budget is still the case.
Iván Arriagada: I think our project schedule calls for completion of commissioning in 2027, and I think we've been consistent in that, and there is no change to that timeline, nor are we envisaging a change in the project cost as disclosed in the table that you have and which is included in the release. So we're not seeing any change there. We are obviously approaching the end of construction as we sort of moved into the H2 and into 2027, which are the more challenging work streams because they involve integrating subsystems, they involve doing pre-commissioning tests and the like. But the fact that we remain on schedule and on budget is still the case.
Speaker #5: And I think we've been consistent in that. And there is no change to that timeline. Nor are we envisaging a change in the project cost as disclosed in the table that you have and which is included in the release.
Speaker #5: So we're not seeing any change there. We are obviously approaching the end of construction as we sort of moved into the second half and into 2027.
Speaker #5: Which are the more challenging work streams because they involve integrating subsistence, they involve doing pre-commissioning tests and the like. But that the fact that we remain on schedule and on budget is still the case.
Speaker #5: In the case of the flotation sale, what's happened is that certain soil conditions have revealed that they require extra sealing for optimal conditions. And we're lucky that we've sort of identified that now and we're able to address that now.
Iván Arriagada: In the case of the flotation cell, what's happened is that certain soil conditions have revealed that they require extra sealing for optimal conditions, and we're lucky that we've sort of identified that now and we're able to address that now. But that will happen within. That work is happening already. Will happen within the schedule that has been provided. So from that point of view, we still see fully that the project is, as I say, commissioned in 2027, and then that we sort of start the ramp-up. Which when we had the site visit, we also said that 2028 is the year in which we will see the ramp-up fully in force and completed. So commissioning 2027, ramp-up 2028, that remains unchanged.
Iván Arriagada: In the case of the flotation cell, what's happened is that certain soil conditions have revealed that they require extra sealing for optimal conditions, and we're lucky that we've sort of identified that now and we're able to address that now. But that will happen within. That work is happening already. Will happen within the schedule that has been provided. So from that point of view, we still see fully that the project is, as I say, commissioned in 2027, and then that we sort of start the ramp-up. Which when we had the site visit, we also said that 2028 is the year in which we will see the ramp-up fully in force and completed. So commissioning 2027, ramp-up 2028, that remains unchanged.
Speaker #5: But that will happen within and that work is happening already will happen within the schedule that has been provided. So from that point of view, we still see fully that the project is, as I say, commissioned in 2027.
Speaker #5: And then that we sort of start the ramp-up, which we when we had the site visit, we also said that 2028 is the year in which we will see the ramp-up fully in force and completed.
Speaker #5: So commissioning 27, ramp-up 28, that's remains unchanged.
Speaker #7: Okay. Thank you very much.
Ian Rossouw: Okay. Thank you very much.
Ian Rossouw: Okay. Thank you very much.
Speaker #6: Thank you. Our next question comes from Daniel Major with UPS. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: Thank you. Our next question comes from Daniel Major with UBS. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Daniel Major with UBS. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Hi, there. Can you hear me okay?
Daniel Major: Hi there. Can you hear me okay?
Daniel Major: Hi there. Can you hear me okay?
Speaker #5: Yeah.
Iván Arriagada: Yeah.
Iván Arriagada: Yeah.
Speaker #7: Great. Thank you. Yes, a couple of questions. The first one is maybe a follow-on slightly to Ian's question, but on a different item. And I guess the market's going to be focusing on the capex and production guidance for 2027 that you provide with your Q3.
Daniel Major: Great. Thank you. Yeah, a couple of questions. The first one is maybe a follow-on slightly to Ian's question, but on a different item. I guess the market's going to be focusing on the CapEx and production guidance for 2027 that you provide with your Q3. If you are thinking about CapEx, you have indicated directionally CapEx should be coming down. Could you just try just a little bit more building blocks to that? You spent USD 3.3 billion at Centinela to date. Would you expect to have spent the majority of the budget there by the end of the year? Where do you see normalized sustaining CapEx across the group, and how would you expect that to be trending into next year, just to give us a sense of the quantum of step down in CapEx next year?
Daniel Major: Great. Thank you. Yeah, a couple of questions. The first one is maybe a follow-on slightly to Ian's question, but on a different item. I guess the market's going to be focusing on the CapEx and production guidance for 2027 that you provide with your Q3. If you are thinking about CapEx, you have indicated directionally CapEx should be coming down. Could you just try just a little bit more building blocks to that? You spent USD 3.3 billion at Centinela to date. Would you expect to have spent the majority of the budget there by the end of the year? Where do you see normalized sustaining CapEx across the group, and how would you expect that to be trending into next year, just to give us a sense of the quantum of step down in CapEx next year?
Speaker #7: If you're thinking about capex, you've indicated directionally capex should be coming down. Could you just try to just a little bit more sort of building blocks to that?
Speaker #7: You spent 3.3 billion at Centinela to date. Would you expect to have spent the majority of the budget there by the end of the year?
Speaker #7: And where do you see normalized sustaining capex across the group and how sort of would you expect that to be trending into next year just to give us a sense of the sort of quantum of step down in capex next year?
Speaker #5: Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll provide guidance in the first quarter, but I would say a few comments and then pass on to Mauricio. For more color.
Iván Arriagada: Yeah. We will provide guidance in Q3, but I will say a few comments and then pass on to Mauricio for more color. What we see is that we've essentially passed peak capital spend for the project, and therefore the trend is that we should see a lower number in 2027. There's still capital spend to go in the project this year and next. As I was saying, 2027 is a year in which we will be very much focused on integrating the subsistence and then doing the commissioning work there. Mauricio, you may want to put more color into the components. Again, we will disclose that in more detail in Q3, but maybe we can give Daniel some color beforehand there.
Iván Arriagada: Yeah. We will provide guidance in Q3, but I will say a few comments and then pass on to Mauricio for more color. What we see is that we've essentially passed peak capital spend for the project, and therefore the trend is that we should see a lower number in 2027. There's still capital spend to go in the project this year and next. As I was saying, 2027 is a year in which we will be very much focused on integrating the subsistence and then doing the commissioning work there. Mauricio, you may want to put more color into the components. Again, we will disclose that in more detail in Q3, but maybe we can give Daniel some color beforehand there.
Speaker #5: But what we see is that we've essentially passed peak capital spend for the project, and therefore the trend is that we should see a lower number in 2027.
Speaker #5: But there's still capital spend to go in the project this year and next. As I was saying, 2027 is a year in which we will be very much focused on integrating the substance and then doing the commissioning work.
Speaker #5: But Mauricio, you may want to put more color into the components. Again, we will disclose that in more detail in quarter three, but maybe we can give Daniel some color beforehand now.
Mauricio Ortiz: Hi, Daniel. How are you?
Mauricio Ortiz: Hi, Daniel. How are you?
Speaker #8: Hi, Daniel. How are you? Yeah, just a bit more color. Well, starting with the sustaining capex, sustaining capex has been in the range of $1 to $1.5 billion.
Daniel Major: Yes.
Daniel Major: Yes.
Mauricio Ortiz: Well, just a bit more of color. Starting with the sustaining CapEx. Sustaining CapEx has been in the range to 1 billion to 1.5 billion, and we will stay there for the next couple of years. That is regarding sustaining CapEx. Touching base on development CapEx. Peak CapEx is now behind. Remember that last year we ran at 3.7. This year our guidance is 3.4. We are well-aligned to achieve that guidance for 2026. There is some tail CapEx related to Centinela on 2027, and I will say in 2028 onward, we will be basically running at sustaining CapEx plus any additional growth alternative that we may pursue. At this stage, what we have in our directional guidance, as Iván mentioned, much more precise number we provide later in the year. But directionally then, that is what we have, 2026.
Mauricio Ortiz: Well, just a bit more of color. Starting with the sustaining CapEx. Sustaining CapEx has been in the range to 1 billion to 1.5 billion, and we will stay there for the next couple of years. That is regarding sustaining CapEx. Touching base on development CapEx. Peak CapEx is now behind. Remember that last year we ran at 3.7. This year our guidance is 3.4. We are well-aligned to achieve that guidance for 2026. There is some tail CapEx related to Centinela on 2027, and I will say in 2028 onward, we will be basically running at sustaining CapEx plus any additional growth alternative that we may pursue. At this stage, what we have in our directional guidance, as Iván mentioned, much more precise number we provide later in the year. But directionally then, that is what we have, 2026.
Speaker #8: And we will stay there for the next couple of years. Yeah. That is regarding sustaining capex. Touching base on development capex—well, peak capex is now behind us.
Speaker #8: Yeah. Remember that last year we ran at 3.7. This year, our guidance is 3.4. Yeah. We are well aligned to achieve that guidance for 2026.
Speaker #8: There is some tail capex related to Centinela in 2027, and I would say that from 2028 onward, we will basically be running at sustaining capex, plus any additional growth alternatives that we may pursue.
Speaker #8: But at this stage, what we have in our directional guidance, as Ivan mentioned, much more precise number, we provide later in the year. But directionally done, that is what we have 2026, 2027, some tail capex related to the project, and 2028 roughly on aligned with the sustaining capex.
Mauricio Ortiz: 2027, some tail CapEx related to the project, and 2028 roughly aligned with the sustaining CapEx.
Mauricio Ortiz: 2027, some tail CapEx related to the project, and 2028 roughly aligned with the sustaining CapEx.
Speaker #7: Okay. So by 2028, we should definitely — if your sustaining capex is one to one and a half, assume capex is less than $2 billion.
Daniel Major: Okay. By 2028, we should definitely, if your sustaining CapEx is 1 to 1.5, assume CapEx is less than $2 billion. Is that a fair assumption?
Daniel Major: Okay. By 2028, we should definitely, if your sustaining CapEx is 1 to 1.5, assume CapEx is less than $2 billion. Is that a fair assumption?
Speaker #7: Is that a fair assumption?
Speaker #8: Well, that is a number that we are going to provide in 2027. Yeah. But that is the direction of the travel.
Mauricio Ortiz: Well, that is a number that we are going to provide in 2027.
Mauricio Ortiz: Well, that is a number that we are going to provide in 2027.
Daniel Major: Okay.
Daniel Major: Okay.
Mauricio Ortiz: But that is the direction of the travel.
Mauricio Ortiz: But that is the direction of the travel.
Daniel Major: Direction. Okay. Got it.
Daniel Major: Direction. Okay. Got it.
Speaker #7: Direction. Okay.
Speaker #8: Very much this number one to one and a half billion is based in 2023 when we kick off our investment program. So that maybe could be something to factor in.
Mauricio Ortiz: Bear in mind that this number, 1 to 1.5 billion, is based in 2023 when we kick off our investment program. So that maybe could be something to factor in.
Mauricio Ortiz: Bear in mind that this number, 1 to 1.5 billion, is based in 2023 when we kick off our investment program. So that maybe could be something to factor in.
Speaker #7: Okay. That's useful. Thank you. And then just maybe a few specific questions probably one for Mauricio. One, you booked an additional 630 million dollars of lease liabilities into the net debt during the period.
Daniel Major: Okay. That's useful. Thank you. Then just maybe a few specific questions, probably one for Mauricio. One, you booked an additional $630 million of lease liabilities into the net debt during the period. Is that number going to continue to increase as the water project is completed at Centinela, or could you give any guidance on the cadence around the other items in the net debt? That's the first one. The second one is the cash tax, few hundred million dollars higher than the P&L in H1, would that reverse? Then the third one, I noticed I don't think Marubeni made any contributions to the CapEx during the period. Why is that, and what should we be factoring in for that line item going forward?
Daniel Major: Okay. That's useful. Thank you. Then just maybe a few specific questions, probably one for Mauricio. One, you booked an additional $630 million of lease liabilities into the net debt during the period. Is that number going to continue to increase as the water project is completed at Centinela, or could you give any guidance on the cadence around the other items in the net debt? That's the first one. The second one is the cash tax, few hundred million dollars higher than the P&L in H1, would that reverse? Then the third one, I noticed I don't think Marubeni made any contributions to the CapEx during the period. Why is that, and what should we be factoring in for that line item going forward?
Speaker #7: Is that number going to continue to increase as the water project is completed at Centinela? Or could you give any guidance on the cadence around other items in the net debt?
Speaker #7: That's the first one. The second one is the cash tax few hundred million dollars higher than the P&L in first half. Would that reverse?
Speaker #7: And then the third one, I noticed I didn't think Maribelli made any contributions to the capex during the period. Kind of why is that and what should we be factoring in for that line item going forward?
Speaker #8: Okay. Well, let me start with the water system. So I will say and I want to tie in that answer with what Ivan mentioned.
Mauricio Ortiz: Well, let me start with the water system. I want to tie in that answer with what Iván mentioned. The project is progressing well. So one of the milestones during H1 of the year was actually the first water. Centinela second concentrator already secure its water supply. So that's why the translate on that in our accounting is the lease accounting of that subsystem. Remember that we outsourced this to a third party. They completed, and now we are booking the lease of the equivalent amount. Interesting also, Dan, is that this facility will provide the water for the second concentrator, and there is also latent capacity to increase throughput in the district. If there is other opportunity to pursue. So that is very attractive, and that is basically the explanation on why we are booking this.
Mauricio Ortiz: Well, let me start with the water system. I want to tie in that answer with what Iván mentioned. The project is progressing well. So one of the milestones during H1 of the year was actually the first water. Centinela second concentrator already secure its water supply. So that's why the translate on that in our accounting is the lease accounting of that subsystem. Remember that we outsourced this to a third party. They completed, and now we are booking the lease of the equivalent amount. Interesting also, Dan, is that this facility will provide the water for the second concentrator, and there is also latent capacity to increase throughput in the district. If there is other opportunity to pursue. So that is very attractive, and that is basically the explanation on why we are booking this.
Speaker #8: The project is progressing well. Yeah. So, one of the milestones during the first half of the year was actually the first water at Centinela's second concentrator already secured.
Speaker #8: It's water supply. So that's why the translate on that in our accounting is the lease accounting of that subsystem. Remember that we outsource this to a third party.
Speaker #8: They complete it and now we are booking the lease of the equivalent amount. Interesting also then is that this facility will provide the water for the second concentrator and there is also latent capacity to increase throughput in the district.
Speaker #8: Yeah. If there is other opportunity to pursue. Yeah. So that is very attractive and that is basically the explanation on why we are booking this.
Mauricio Ortiz: Short answer to your question, if the number will keep increasing. The short answer is no, because that is the full amount of what the third party invested. On cash tax, there, basically, we have the settlement of our 2025 fiscal year. Remember that's how the system works in Chile. You pay proportional monthly payments during the year, and then you have a settlement in April. That is basically what we have in our cash flow this H1. Bear in mind that H2 of last year, we witnessed an important increase in copper prices, and then that, of course, increased as well our stock charge that was settled in April. Regarding to capital contribution to Centinela. Centinela operating at $0.70 per pound as a net cash cost, is generating attractive cash from the operation.
Mauricio Ortiz: Short answer to your question, if the number will keep increasing. The short answer is no, because that is the full amount of what the third party invested. On cash tax, there, basically, we have the settlement of our 2025 fiscal year. Remember that's how the system works in Chile. You pay proportional monthly payments during the year, and then you have a settlement in April. That is basically what we have in our cash flow this H1. Bear in mind that H2 of last year, we witnessed an important increase in copper prices, and then that, of course, increased as well our stock charge that was settled in April. Regarding to capital contribution to Centinela. Centinela operating at $0.70 per pound as a net cash cost, is generating attractive cash from the operation.
Speaker #8: Short answer to your question if we will number keep increasing the short answer is no because that is the full amount of what the third party invested.
Speaker #8: Yeah. On cash stack, yeah, basically we have the settlement of our 2025 fiscal year. Yeah. Remember that how the system works in Chile? You pay proportional monthly payments during the year.
Speaker #8: And then you have a settlement in April. And that is where basically what we have in our cash flow districts have. Yeah. Bear in mind that the second half of last year we witnessed an important increase in copper prices and that of course increase as well our stack charge that was settled in April.
Speaker #8: And regarding to capital contribution to Centinela, Centinela operating at 70 cents per pound as a net cash cost is producing attractive cash generating attractive cash from the operation.
Speaker #8: Yeah. So I will say that we are facing contributions and debt drawdowns. Yeah. In a value creative way in order to minimize cost for the operation.
Mauricio Ortiz: I would say that we are facing contributions and debt drawdowns, in a value-accretive way in order to minimize cost for the operation. We are facing the three source of liquidity in order to optimize the financing.
Mauricio Ortiz: I would say that we are facing contributions and debt drawdowns, in a value-accretive way in order to minimize cost for the operation. We are facing the three source of liquidity in order to optimize the financing.
Speaker #8: Yeah. So we are facing the three ways of the three source of liquidity in order to optimize the financing.
Speaker #7: Okay. Thanks. So just to follow up on the cash tags. I'm assuming you will accrue tax payables then in the second half that you'll pay out first half of next year.
Daniel Major: Okay, thanks. Just to follow up on the cash tax, I am assuming you will accrue tax payables then in the H2, that you will pay out H1 of next year. So there should be a positive differential between cash and P&L tax in the H2. Is that correct?
Daniel Major: Okay, thanks. Just to follow up on the cash tax, I am assuming you will accrue tax payables then in the H2, that you will pay out H1 of next year. So there should be a positive differential between cash and P&L tax in the H2. Is that correct?
Speaker #7: So there should be a positive differential between cash and P&L tax in the second half. Is that correct?
Speaker #8: Yeah. That's correct. Yeah.
Mauricio Ortiz: Yeah.
Mauricio Ortiz: Yeah.
Daniel Major: Yeah.
Daniel Major: Yeah.
Mauricio Ortiz: That is correct.
Mauricio Ortiz: That is correct.
Speaker #7: Okay, great, thanks. I'll go back in the queue if someone else wants to have a go. Thanks again.
Daniel Major: Okay. Great, thanks. I will go back in the queue, let someone else have a go. Thanks again.
Daniel Major: Okay. Great, thanks. I will go back in the queue, let someone else have a go. Thanks again.
Mauricio Ortiz: Thanks.
Mauricio Ortiz: Thanks.
Speaker #8: Thanks. Thank you then.
Iván Arriagada: Thank you, Dan.
Iván Arriagada: Thank you, Dan.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from Maxine Koga with Odo BHF. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: Our next question comes from Maxime Cogat with Oddo BHF. Please go ahead.
Operator: Our next question comes from Maxime Cogat with Oddo BHF. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Yeah. Good afternoon, Vincent. I hope you can hear me. So, I had a first question. This is on sulfuric acid because it's quite a huge topic at the moment.
Maxime Cogat: Yeah, good afternoon, gentlemen. I hope you can hear me. I had a first question. This is on sulfuric acid because it is quite of a huge topic at the moment. You have some vulnerability there given the size of your leaching operations. Can you give us some sense, perhaps, of the sulfuric acid consumption by mine? Is there any big difference between the three mines that are using sulfuric acid? I think you are quite efficient there compared to peers, but any more precise view on that? What is your view into 2027 production for leaching? Because, in 2026, you are still protected by the benchmark for sulfuric acid. But in 2027, this will be reset. Are you ready perhaps to keep the bit of production at Centinela to concentrator versus leaching? Any view on that would be helpful.
Maxime Kogge: Yeah, good afternoon, gentlemen. I hope you can hear me. I had a first question. This is on sulfuric acid because it is quite of a huge topic at the moment. You have some vulnerability there given the size of your leaching operations. Can you give us some sense, perhaps, of the sulfuric acid consumption by mine? Is there any big difference between the three mines that are using sulfuric acid? I think you are quite efficient there compared to peers, but any more precise view on that? What is your view into 2027 production for leaching? Because, in 2026, you are still protected by the benchmark for sulfuric acid. But in 2027, this will be reset. Are you ready perhaps to keep the bit of production at Centinela to concentrator versus leaching? Any view on that would be helpful.
Speaker #7: You have some vulnerability there, given the size of your lithium operations. Can you give us some sense, perhaps, of the sulfuric acid consumption by mine?
Speaker #7: Is there any big difference between the three mines that are using sulfuric acid? I think you're quite efficient there compared to peers, but do you have any more precise view on that?
Speaker #7: And yeah, what's your view into 2027 production for lithium? Because in 2026, you're still protected by the benchmark for sulfuric acid, but in 2027, this will be reset.
Speaker #7: So yeah, are you ready perhaps to keep a bit of production at Centinela to concentrate versus lithium? Yeah. Any view on that would be helpful.
Speaker #8: Yeah. So on the sulfuric acid, I mean, obviously as a consequence of the sort of events, political events we've seen an increase in the sulfuric acid spot price, you know, during the first half, which is what you were referring to.
Iván Arriagada: Yeah. On the sulfuric acid, obviously as a consequence of the political events, we have seen an increase in the sulfuric acid spot price during the H1, which is what you were referring to. We do not source sulfuric acid directly from the Middle East, but from other regions. Therefore, we have not had an issue with the security of the supply into our mines. They are fairly distributed, I would say, between Antucoya, Zaldívar and Centinela. Therefore, we have had the acid that has been required. Now, obviously, higher prices reflecting the conditions that we have seen in the sulfuric acid market. I think we are now seeing those conditions that have stabilized at a higher acid price level. But we see signs that may be easing.
Iván Arriagada: Yeah. On the sulfuric acid, obviously as a consequence of the political events, we have seen an increase in the sulfuric acid spot price during the H1, which is what you were referring to. We do not source sulfuric acid directly from the Middle East, but from other regions. Therefore, we have not had an issue with the security of the supply into our mines. They are fairly distributed, I would say, between Antucoya, Zaldívar and Centinela. Therefore, we have had the acid that has been required. Now, obviously, higher prices reflecting the conditions that we have seen in the sulfuric acid market. I think we are now seeing those conditions that have stabilized at a higher acid price level. But we see signs that may be easing.
Speaker #8: The, you know, we don't source sulfuric acid directly from the Middle East and there, but from other regions. And therefore, we have not had an issue with the supply, the security of the supply into our mines.
Speaker #8: And they are sort of fairly distributed, I would say, between Anticoya and volume is fairly distributed between Anticoya, Saldívar, and Centinela. And therefore, we've had the acid that's been required.
Speaker #8: Now, I obviously higher prices reflecting the conditions that we've seen. In the sulfuric acid market. I think we're now seeing those conditions that have sort of stabilized at a higher, you know, acid price level, but we see signs that, you know, that may be easing.
Speaker #8: We have generally term contracts and therefore we're not fully exposed to the spot price, but we have some volume of significance, which is in fact built into those contracts.
Iván Arriagada: We have generally term contracts, and therefore we are not fully exposed to the spot price, but we have some volume of significance, which is in fact built into those contracts. As we have secured the volumes for 2027, obviously, those prices are more reflective of current conditions but are not exactly the spot price because they are driven by the long-term commitments involved in our contracts. We expect essentially to be able to have the acid that we need to be able to operate as we have in 2026 for 2027, and therefore, continue to deliver on our hydro operations. Now, we will provide guidance for next year in Q3, so I would not like to go into breaking down how much will our leaching operations expect to produce next year, because that is the subject of the next quarter.
Iván Arriagada: We have generally term contracts, and therefore we are not fully exposed to the spot price, but we have some volume of significance, which is in fact built into those contracts. As we have secured the volumes for 2027, obviously, those prices are more reflective of current conditions but are not exactly the spot price because they are driven by the long-term commitments involved in our contracts. We expect essentially to be able to have the acid that we need to be able to operate as we have in 2026 for 2027, and therefore, continue to deliver on our hydro operations. Now, we will provide guidance for next year in Q3, so I would not like to go into breaking down how much will our leaching operations expect to produce next year, because that is the subject of the next quarter.
Speaker #8: As we've secured, you know, the volumes for 2027, obviously those prices are more reflective of current conditions, but are not exactly the spot price because they are driven by the long-term commitments involved in our contracts.
Speaker #8: So we expect essentially to be able to have the asset that we need to be able to operate as we have in 2026 for 2027.
Speaker #8: And therefore, continue to deliver on our hydro operations. Now, we will provide guidance for next year in quarter three. So I wouldn't like to go into breaking down how much will our lithium operations expect to produce next year because that's the subject of, you know, the next quarter.
Speaker #8: But as I say, we've secured the volume needed this year. So we have no interruption on the basis of securing the supply. Our prices are based on long-term contracts and therefore we've not seen the same increase that you will witness in spot prices.
Iván Arriagada: But as I say, we have secured the volume needed this year, so we have no interruption on the basis of securing the supply. Our prices are based on long-term contracts, and therefore we have not seen the same increase that you will witness in spot prices. And we have secured volume for next year, which reflects partly the spot price increment. But as I have mentioned before, we have seen also that in the spot price, the conditions have moderated slightly. So our outlook is that things will gradually improve from this point onwards.
Iván Arriagada: But as I say, we have secured the volume needed this year, so we have no interruption on the basis of securing the supply. Our prices are based on long-term contracts, and therefore we have not seen the same increase that you will witness in spot prices. And we have secured volume for next year, which reflects partly the spot price increment. But as I have mentioned before, we have seen also that in the spot price, the conditions have moderated slightly. So our outlook is that things will gradually improve from this point onwards.
Speaker #8: And we are we have secured volume for next year, which reflects partly the spot price increment. But as I've mentioned before, we've seen some also that in the spot price, the conditions have moderated slightly.
Speaker #8: So we are outlook is that things will gradually improve from this point onwards.
Speaker #7: All right. Thank you. And second one, yes, this is on TCOC. I think in the latest call, you said that about 70 to 80 percent of your contracts were based on the benchmark and the remaining 20 to 30 percent based on spot.
Maxime Cogat: All right, thank you. And second one, yes, this is on TCRC. I think in the latest call, you said that about 70% to 80% of your contracts were based on the benchmark and the remaining 20% to 30% based on spot. But since then, you have apparently been able to negotiate a higher benchmark for H2 based entirely on index prices. So does it mean that the proportion of index prices is now predominant in your sales structure? And any view you might have on the 2027 benchmark, will it still be there according to you, or is it now gone forever with the whole system, the whole marketplace switching to the next pricing?
Maxime Kogge: All right, thank you. And second one, yes, this is on TCRC. I think in the latest call, you said that about 70% to 80% of your contracts were based on the benchmark and the remaining 20% to 30% based on spot. But since then, you have apparently been able to negotiate a higher benchmark for H2 based entirely on index prices. So does it mean that the proportion of index prices is now predominant in your sales structure? And any view you might have on the 2027 benchmark, will it still be there according to you, or is it now gone forever with the whole system, the whole marketplace switching to the next pricing?
Speaker #7: But since then, you have apparently been able to negotiate a half-year benchmark for H2 based entirely on index prices. So does it mean that the proportion of index prices is now predominant in your sales structure?
Speaker #7: And yeah, any view you might have on the 2027 benchmark, will it still be there according to you or is it now gone for forever with the whole system, the whole marketplace switching to the indexed pricing?
Speaker #7: And yes, since you buy some sulfuric acid from the smelters and you sell to them the concentrate, is there some way to tie the two aspects perhaps to prevent to significant rises in sulfuric acid costs?
Maxime Cogat: And yes, since you buy some sulfuric acid from the smelters and you sell to them the concentrate, is there some way to tie the two aspects, perhaps to prevent too significant rises in sulfuric acid costs? Yep, that is the second one.
Maxime Kogge: And yes, since you buy some sulfuric acid from the smelters and you sell to them the concentrate, is there some way to tie the two aspects, perhaps to prevent too significant rises in sulfuric acid costs? Yep, that is the second one.
Speaker #7: Yeah. That's a second one.
Speaker #8: Yeah, so with respect to TCOCs, let me say that we negotiate those under term contracts as well. As you know, we've said—some people call that a benchmark system—but it's, as I say, based on conditions in contracts, which are negotiated between the parties every year, and those are term contracts.
Iván Arriagada: Yeah. With respect to TCRCs, let me say that we negotiate those under term contracts as well. As we have said, some people call that benchmark system, but we, as I say, base our conditions on contracts, which are negotiated between the parties every year, and those are term contracts, and we will continue to use those contracts for that purpose. The basis on which pricing is agreed may evolve and change considering the market conditions. But because that is commercially sensitive, obviously I will not be specific about that. So that is as much as I can say on TCRCs. It is a favorable market for miners. We have long-term relationships with many smelting clients in very mature markets. And we have term contracts under which we secure the supply and the conditions on those.
Iván Arriagada: Yeah. With respect to TCRCs, let me say that we negotiate those under term contracts as well. As we have said, some people call that benchmark system, but we, as I say, base our conditions on contracts, which are negotiated between the parties every year, and those are term contracts, and we will continue to use those contracts for that purpose. The basis on which pricing is agreed may evolve and change considering the market conditions. But because that is commercially sensitive, obviously I will not be specific about that. So that is as much as I can say on TCRCs. It is a favorable market for miners. We have long-term relationships with many smelting clients in very mature markets. And we have term contracts under which we secure the supply and the conditions on those.
Speaker #8: And we will continue to use those contracts for that purpose. The basis on which pricing is agreed may evolve and change. Considering the market conditions but I will because that's commercially sensitive, obviously won't be specific about that.
Speaker #8: So that's as much as I can say on TCOCs. I mean, it's a favorable market for miners. We have long-term relationships with many smelting clients.
Speaker #8: In very mature markets, and we have term contracts under which we secure the supply and the conditions on those.
Speaker #7: Okay, I'll stop there. Thank you.
Maxime Cogat: Okay. I stop there. Thank you.
Maxime Kogge: Okay. I stop there. Thank you.
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Speaker #5: Hello. Hello. Can you hear me now?
Ioannis Masvoulas: Hello. Can you hear me now?
Ioannis Masvoulas: Hello. Can you hear me now?
Speaker #8: Yeah, we can hear you now, Yohannes.
Iván Arriagada: Yeah, we can hear you now, Ioannis.
Iván Arriagada: Yeah, we can hear you now, Ioannis.
Speaker #5: Excellent. Excellent, Ivan and Mauricio. Thank you very much for the presentation. Most of my questions have been answered, but maybe one question on hedging.
Ioannis Masvoulas: Excellent. Excellent. Iván and Mauricio, thank you very much for the presentation. Most of my questions have been answered, but maybe one question on hedging. I understand that majority of your acid exposure has been already locked in for 2026. If prices were to remain elevated going into 2027, would you still employ the same strategy of hedging the majority of your exposure? And maybe have you changed your hedging consideration on the diesel side, if again, diesel prices were to remain elevated, how would you think about potentially hedging for 2027, which is something you haven't done in 2026? Thanks very much.
Ioannis Masvoulas: Excellent. Excellent. Iván and Mauricio, thank you very much for the presentation. Most of my questions have been answered, but maybe one question on hedging. I understand that majority of your acid exposure has been already locked in for 2026. If prices were to remain elevated going into 2027, would you still employ the same strategy of hedging the majority of your exposure? And maybe have you changed your hedging consideration on the diesel side, if again, diesel prices were to remain elevated, how would you think about potentially hedging for 2027, which is something you haven't done in 2026? Thanks very much.
Speaker #5: So I understand that the majority of your asset exposure has already been locked in for 2026. If prices were to remain elevated going into 2027, would you still employ the same strategy of hedging the majority of your exposure? And maybe, have you changed your hedging consideration on the diesel side? If, again, diesel prices were to remain elevated, how would you think about potentially hedging for 2027, which is something you haven't done for 2026?
Speaker #5: Thank you very much.
Speaker #8: Yes. Thanks for the question. We generally do not hedge our commodity inputs prices. So we, you know, we believe that as much as we're exposed to copper price and gold and molly price and silver price through the commodities that we sell, we are best served to protect our margins if we remain exposed to the commodities that we buy, including in this case, oil and assets.
Iván Arriagada: Yes. Thanks for the question. We generally do not hedge our commodity inputs prices. We believe that as much as we're exposed to copper price and gold and moly price and silver price through the commodities that we sell, we are best served to protect our margins if we remain exposed to the commodities that we buy, including, in this case, oil and acid. We do have long-term commercial relationships on the basis of term contracts that provide for security of supply and competitive long-term pricing mechanisms. But we do not, as a general practice, hedge our input costs like fuel and others.
Iván Arriagada: Yes. Thanks for the question. We generally do not hedge our commodity inputs prices. We believe that as much as we're exposed to copper price and gold and moly price and silver price through the commodities that we sell, we are best served to protect our margins if we remain exposed to the commodities that we buy, including, in this case, oil and acid. We do have long-term commercial relationships on the basis of term contracts that provide for security of supply and competitive long-term pricing mechanisms. But we do not, as a general practice, hedge our input costs like fuel and others.
Speaker #8: So we do have long-term commercial relationships on the basis of term contracts. That provide for security of supply and competitive long-term pricing mechanisms. But we do not, as a general practice, hedge our input costs like fuel and others.
Speaker #5: Okay, thank you for that. And maybe just to follow up on the asset side, based on the structure of the term contracts, how much of the spot price exposure will be reflected in your 2027 cost list?
Ioannis Masvoulas: Okay. Thank you for that. And maybe just to follow up on the asset side, based on the structure of the term contracts, how much of the spot price exposure will be reflected into your 2027 cost sales?
Ioannis Masvoulas: Okay. Thank you for that. And maybe just to follow up on the asset side, based on the structure of the term contracts, how much of the spot price exposure will be reflected into your 2027 cost sales?
Speaker #8: I mean, I think that well, that's dependent on each contract and operation. But we would expect that, you know, trend to obviously be reflected in those prices.
Iván Arriagada: I think that's dependent on each contract and operation. But we would expect that trend to obviously be reflected in those prices. How much? That's very contract specific and not something that I can share openly because it depends on the contracts specifically. But the trend that you would expect to see is that if we've seen a significant increase in the spot price, an important proportion of that would be reflected, but depends on the contract.
Iván Arriagada: I think that's dependent on each contract and operation. But we would expect that trend to obviously be reflected in those prices. How much? That's very contract specific and not something that I can share openly because it depends on the contracts specifically. But the trend that you would expect to see is that if we've seen a significant increase in the spot price, an important proportion of that would be reflected, but depends on the contract.
Speaker #8: How much that's very contract specific and not something that I can sort of share openly because it depends on the contracts specifically. But the trend that you would expect to see is that if we've seen a significant increase in the spot price, you know, a important proportion of that would be reflected but depends on the contract.
Speaker #5: Thanks very much, Ivan. And best of luck.
Ioannis Masvoulas: Thanks very much, Iván, and best of luck.
Ioannis Masvoulas: Thanks very much, Iván, and best of luck.
Speaker #8: Thank you.
Iván Arriagada: Thank you.
Iván Arriagada: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from Ben Davis with RBC. Ben, please press star 6 to unmute.
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Ben Davis: Hello?
Ben Davis: Hello?
Speaker #3: Hello. Hi, yes. It's Ben here from RBC. Just a couple of quick questions for me. It would be great just to get some more color on the twin metals project.
Iván Arriagada: Hello. We can hear you.
Iván Arriagada: Hello. We can hear you.
Ben Davis: Hi. Yes, it is Ben here from RBC. Just a couple of quick questions from me. One, it would be great just to get some more color on the Twin Metals project. I mean, it bouncing back and forth in the courts, just how you see that playing out for the next couple of years or so. Then just quickly also, obviously, the storm that we had was a huge outlier in terms of the severity of it. But has winter weather, in general, been getting worse over the past few years, or do you put any store to the fact that this is some sort of El Niño effect or anything else? Any color there would be helpful. Thank you.
Ben Davis: Hi. Yes, it is Ben here from RBC. Just a couple of quick questions from me. One, it would be great just to get some more color on the Twin Metals project. I mean, it bouncing back and forth in the courts, just how you see that playing out for the next couple of years or so. Then just quickly also, obviously, the storm that we had was a huge outlier in terms of the severity of it. But has winter weather, in general, been getting worse over the past few years, or do you put any store to the fact that this is some sort of El Niño effect or anything else? Any color there would be helpful. Thank you.
Speaker #3: I always—I mean, it's bouncing back and forth in the courts. Just how do you see that playing out for the next couple of years or so?
Speaker #3: And then just quickly also, obviously, the storm that we had was a huge outlier. In terms of kind of the severity of it, but has winter weather in general been getting worse over the past few years or do you put any store to the fact that this is some sort of El Niño effect or anything else?
Speaker #3: Any color there would be helpful. Thank you.
Speaker #8: Yeah. So with respect to twin metals, I mean, as we've shared in the past, I mean, we continue to see the project as an attractive one.
Iván Arriagada: Yeah. With respect to Twin Metals, as we have shared in the past, we continue to see the project as an attractive one. In the current public policy environment in the US, we believe that we have the ability to make some significant progress. I think what happened is, as you would know, that the withdrawal that had been passed, which banned mining in the area, has been reversed, is good news. Then we are basically working in recovery of the leases for the main Maturi area and essentially working on the terms and conditions under which those would be handed back. So once we do that, we would expect to be able to have the ability to progress some of the other aspects which are significant around initiating permitting. So we continue to have conviction around our ability to develop this over the years.
Iván Arriagada: Yeah. With respect to Twin Metals, as we have shared in the past, we continue to see the project as an attractive one. In the current public policy environment in the US, we believe that we have the ability to make some significant progress. I think what happened is, as you would know, that the withdrawal that had been passed, which banned mining in the area, has been reversed, is good news. Then we are basically working in recovery of the leases for the main Maturi area and essentially working on the terms and conditions under which those would be handed back. So once we do that, we would expect to be able to have the ability to progress some of the other aspects which are significant around initiating permitting. So we continue to have conviction around our ability to develop this over the years.
Speaker #8: And in the current public policy environment in the US, you know, we believe that we have the ability to make some significant progress. I think what happened is, as you would know, that the withdrawal that had been passed which banned mining in the area has been reversed, which is good news.
Speaker #8: And then we are basically working in recovery of the leases for the main Maturi area. And essentially, working on the terms and conditions under which, you know, those would be handed back.
Speaker #8: So once we do that, you know, we would expect to be able to have the ability to progress, you know, some of the other aspects which are significant around initiating permitting.
Speaker #8: So we continue to have conviction around our ability to develop this over the years. It's what we'd call a long-dated option, but we're still think, you know, that every step that we can make advancing this, and especially in the current environment, is something that we should take the opportunity to do.
Iván Arriagada: It is what we would call a long-dated option, but we still think that every step that we can make advancing this, and especially in the current environment, is something that we should take the opportunity to do. On the storm, I would say that it is what we think quite unique in the sense that, again, in the history of Pelambres, this is, in our records, probably the most severe event that we have had. Now, whether winters have been becoming worse or severe, I think the pattern that we are observing is that we have had, in fact, a prolonged drought in the region where Pelambres is, which spanned 12 years, in which there was very little rain. That is now being combined with very intense rain and snow events like the one we have had here, which basically happened in a very compressed and short period of time. So we have both extremes.
Iván Arriagada: It is what we would call a long-dated option, but we still think that every step that we can make advancing this, and especially in the current environment, is something that we should take the opportunity to do. On the storm, I would say that it is what we think quite unique in the sense that, again, in the history of Pelambres, this is, in our records, probably the most severe event that we have had. Now, whether winters have been becoming worse or severe, I think the pattern that we are observing is that we have had, in fact, a prolonged drought in the region where Pelambres is, which spanned 12 years, in which there was very little rain. That is now being combined with very intense rain and snow events like the one we have had here, which basically happened in a very compressed and short period of time. So we have both extremes.
Speaker #8: On the storm, I would say that it is what we think quite unique in the sense that, again, in the history of Belambres, this is in our records probably the most severe event that we've had.
Speaker #8: Now, whether winters have been becoming more worse or severe, I think we've had the pattern that we're observing is that we've had, in fact, a prolonged drought in the region where Belambres is, which spanned 12 years, in which there was very little rain.
Speaker #8: And that's now being combined with very intense rain and snow events, like the one we've had here, which basically happened in a very, very compressed and short period of time.
Speaker #8: So we have both extremes, a persistent drought, which I think is the sort of underlying condition that we expect to continue to see. And for which we have essentially developed, you know, the water solution that you know, which involves that, you know, we are increasingly becoming independent in our water supply from continental sources.
Iván Arriagada: A persistent drought, which I think is the sort of underlying condition that we expect to continue to see, and for which we have essentially developed the water solution, you know, which involves that we are increasingly becoming independent in our water supply from continental sources. Probably combined, from what we've seen now, because of El Niño, which does not happen every year, in which we've had a very significant rain and snow event in a very compressed period of time. If you look at our infrastructure at Pelambres, we did not have any significant impact or damage into our infrastructure or equipment. But obviously, the issue that's impacted us most is the fact that we, for safety and prudence reason, did an orderly halt or suspension of activities and are doing an orderly ramp-up back of activities.
Iván Arriagada: A persistent drought, which I think is the sort of underlying condition that we expect to continue to see, and for which we have essentially developed the water solution, you know, which involves that we are increasingly becoming independent in our water supply from continental sources. Probably combined, from what we've seen now, because of El Niño, which does not happen every year, in which we've had a very significant rain and snow event in a very compressed period of time. If you look at our infrastructure at Pelambres, we did not have any significant impact or damage into our infrastructure or equipment. But obviously, the issue that's impacted us most is the fact that we, for safety and prudence reason, did an orderly halt or suspension of activities and are doing an orderly ramp-up back of activities.
Speaker #8: And probably combined from what we've seen now, because of El Niño, which does not happen every year, we've had a very, very significant rain and snow event in a very compressed period of time.
Speaker #8: So, if you look at our infrastructure at Los Pelambres, I mean, we did not have any significant impact or damage to our infrastructure or equipment.
Speaker #8: But obviously, the issue that's inspected us most is the fact that we for safety and prudence reason, did an orderly halt or suspension of activities.
Speaker #8: And are doing an orderly as well ramp-up back of activities, which in the case of the mine, because of the amount of snow, involves cleaning up certain areas from snow.
Iván Arriagada: Which, in the case of the mine, because of the amount of snow, involves cleaning up certain areas from snow, and some of them, which are very high in the mountain, take a little bit more of time. So it's unique in that sense, and it's very different to the prevalent condition, which is drought. But as always, we've done this in a safe manner, and the issue has been more removing the 5 million cubic meters of snow, which is a lot of material for any mine, and doing that in an orderly way so that we can begin mining in all sections.
Iván Arriagada: Which, in the case of the mine, because of the amount of snow, involves cleaning up certain areas from snow, and some of them, which are very high in the mountain, take a little bit more of time. So it's unique in that sense, and it's very different to the prevalent condition, which is drought. But as always, we've done this in a safe manner, and the issue has been more removing the 5 million cubic meters of snow, which is a lot of material for any mine, and doing that in an orderly way so that we can begin mining in all sections.
Speaker #8: And some of them, which are very high in the mountain, think a little bit more of time. So it's unique in that sense and it's very different to the prevalent condition, which is drought.
Speaker #8: But as always, you know, we've done this in a safe manner. And the issue has been more removing, you know, the 5 million cubic meters of snow, which is a lot of material, you know, for any mine.
Speaker #8: And we're doing that in an orderly way so that we can begin mining in all sections. We're essentially back, but we've got some areas in which we still have to do some clearing of snow.
Iván Arriagada: We're essentially back, but we've got some areas in which we still have to do some clearing of snow, and that means that our grade fed into the plant in the balance of this year will be slightly lower at Pelambres than we had originally anticipated, and hence the change in the guidance.
Iván Arriagada: We're essentially back, but we've got some areas in which we still have to do some clearing of snow, and that means that our grade fed into the plant in the balance of this year will be slightly lower at Pelambres than we had originally anticipated, and hence the change in the guidance.
Speaker #8: And that means that our grade fed into the plant in the balance of this year will be slightly lower at Belambres than we had originally anticipated.
Speaker #8: And hence, the change in the guidance.
Speaker #3: Gotcha. That's very helpful. Just a quick follow-on on twin metals. Can I just is there any works happening outside of the kind of obviously the legal cases?
Ben Davis: Got you. That's very helpful. Just a quick follow-on on Twin Metals. Is there any works happening outside of the kind of, obviously, the legal cases? Are you doing any study or exploration work at the asset?
Ben Davis: Got you. That's very helpful. Just a quick follow-on on Twin Metals. Is there any works happening outside of the kind of, obviously, the legal cases? Are you doing any study or exploration work at the asset?
Speaker #3: Are you doing any study or exploration work at the asset?
Speaker #8: We are. We've got I mean, we are doing work in preparation of, you know, updating our pre-feasibility and also so there's some work being I mean, work being done there.
Iván Arriagada: We are doing work in preparation of updating our pre-feasibility. So there is some work being done there. And we are also doing some, and continue to do some, drilling in other properties that form part of the Twin Metals complex but are not located in Maturi. In other places where we hold valid exploration licenses, we are doing some drilling.
Iván Arriagada: We are doing work in preparation of updating our pre-feasibility. So there is some work being done there. And we are also doing some, and continue to do some, drilling in other properties that form part of the Twin Metals complex but are not located in Maturi. In other places where we hold valid exploration licenses, we are doing some drilling.
Speaker #8: And we're also doing some, and continue to do some, drilling in other properties that form part of the Twin Metals complex but are not located in Maturi.
Speaker #8: In other places where, you know, we hold valid exploration licenses, we're still—yeah, we are doing some drilling.
Speaker #3: That's great. Thank you very much.
Ben Davis: That is great. Thank you very much.
Ben Davis: That is great. Thank you very much.
Speaker #1: The next question comes from Matt Green, Goldman Sachs. Please unmute to ask your question.
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Speaker #5: Hey, good morning. Thanks for the thanks for taking my question. Marita, perhaps a couple for you. Okay. You flagged here just some of the inflationary consumable pressure you're seeing on your operating costs.
Matt Greene: Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Mauricio, perhaps a couple for you. You flagged here just some of the inflationary consumable pressure you are seeing on your operating costs. But I am just wondering if you could maybe touch on where you are feeling some of the pressure on your CapEx, because you are going through a number of earthwork-intensive projects with the Encuentro development, the Pelambres pipeline TSF. So if you could just touch on, are you seeing a lot of pressure on the CapEx side of the business? I know you have locked in a lot of your EPCM contracts, but just if you just touch on where you are seeing some pressure there, because I guess it is quite encouraging to see that your CapEx guidance is unchanged.
Matt Greene: Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Mauricio, perhaps a couple for you. You flagged here just some of the inflationary consumable pressure you are seeing on your operating costs. But I am just wondering if you could maybe touch on where you are feeling some of the pressure on your CapEx, because you are going through a number of earthwork-intensive projects with the Encuentro development, the Pelambres pipeline TSF. So if you could just touch on, are you seeing a lot of pressure on the CapEx side of the business? I know you have locked in a lot of your EPCM contracts, but just if you just touch on where you are seeing some pressure there, because I guess it is quite encouraging to see that your CapEx guidance is unchanged.
Speaker #5: But I'm just wondering if you can maybe touch on where you're feeling some of the pressure on your capex because you are going through a number of earthwork-intensive projects with the Inquentro development, the Palambres pipeline, TSF.
Speaker #5: So just, yeah, if you could just touch on, you know, are you seeing a lot of pressure on the capex side of the business?
Speaker #5: I know you've locked in a lot of your sort of EPCM contracts, but just, yeah, if you just touch on where you're seeing some pressure there because I guess this is quite encouraging to see that your capex guidance is unchanged.
Speaker #8: Yeah. Well, I would have started I would have started remembering how our portfolio looks like this year. So it's roughly 2 billions of development capex associated to Sentinela, second concentrator, and Pelambres.
Mauricio Ortiz: Well, I would start remembering how our portfolio looks like this year. It is roughly 2 billion of development CapEx associated to Centinela second concentrator and Pelambres. I remember that we announced these two projects. One of the key features of this project is that we were able to lock in the bulk of the cost on contracts with EPC contractors. So there is little exposure to diesel prices on those big projects. Where we have exposure to diesel prices is in mine development, but the people at the operation, our teams at the operations are doing a good job optimizing the routes and the diesel consumption. So we do have exposure to diesel. We do have some inflationary pressures driven by higher fuel prices.
Mauricio Ortiz: Well, I would start remembering how our portfolio looks like this year. It is roughly 2 billion of development CapEx associated to Centinela second concentrator and Pelambres. I remember that we announced these two projects. One of the key features of this project is that we were able to lock in the bulk of the cost on contracts with EPC contractors. So there is little exposure to diesel prices on those big projects. Where we have exposure to diesel prices is in mine development, but the people at the operation, our teams at the operations are doing a good job optimizing the routes and the diesel consumption. So we do have exposure to diesel. We do have some inflationary pressures driven by higher fuel prices.
Speaker #8: I remember that we announced these two projects. One of the key features of these projects is that we were able to lock in the bulk of the cost on contracts with EPC contractors.
Speaker #8: So, there is little exposure to diesel prices on those big projects. Where we have exposure to diesel prices is in mine development, but the people at the operations—our teams at the operations—are doing a good job optimizing the routes, yeah, and the diesel consumption.
Speaker #8: So we do have exposure to diesel. We do have some inflationary pressures driven by higher fuel prices. Yes, basically, isolated in the mine development, but I can see today a risk to be outside of the number that we guide for total capex for 2026.
Mauricio Ortiz: Yes, basically isolated in the mine development, but I cannot see today a risk to be outside of the number that we guide for total CapEx for 2026.
Mauricio Ortiz: Yes, basically isolated in the mine development, but I cannot see today a risk to be outside of the number that we guide for total CapEx for 2026.
Speaker #5: Okay, that's great. Thank you. And then just on your unit cost year-on-year, I mean, your controllable cost increase is almost as much as the external pressures you're facing here.
Matt Greene: Okay. That is great. Thank you. Then just on your unit cost year-on-year, I mean, your controllable costs have increased almost as much as the external pressures you are facing here. Appreciate some of that. It relates to some of the operational performance, but can you just touch on how much of this is transitory versus how much is actually structurally coming into the business?
Matt Greene: Okay. That is great. Thank you. Then just on your unit cost year-on-year, I mean, your controllable costs have increased almost as much as the external pressures you are facing here. Appreciate some of that. It relates to some of the operational performance, but can you just touch on how much of this is transitory versus how much is actually structurally coming into the business?
Speaker #5: I appreciate some of that. It relates to just some of the operational performance. But can you just touch on how much of this is transitory versus how much is actually structurally coming into the business?
Speaker #8: Well, if you have a look at our net cash cost, basically, we were able to reduce it by 8%, that's 10 cents per pound year-on-year. Yeah, that's a strong performance.
Mauricio Ortiz: Well, if you have a look at our net cash cost, basically we were able to reduce 8%, 10 cents per pound year-on-year. That is a strong performance driven by two things mainly. One, the byproducts. The other one is the competitiveness program. That is a key feature as well of Antofagasta. We do have some inflationary pressures, but we are absorbing with these two factors. And the one that we are going to improve significantly on the H2 is production. So I am confident that we are going to deliver on our guidance on net cash cost for the full year.
Mauricio Ortiz: Well, if you have a look at our net cash cost, basically we were able to reduce 8%, 10 cents per pound year-on-year. That is a strong performance driven by two things mainly. One, the byproducts. The other one is the competitiveness program. That is a key feature as well of Antofagasta. We do have some inflationary pressures, but we are absorbing with these two factors. And the one that we are going to improve significantly on the H2 is production. So I am confident that we are going to deliver on our guidance on net cash cost for the full year.
Speaker #8: Driven by two things, mainly one, the byproducts, the other one is the competitiveness program that is a key feature as well of Antofagasta, yeah.
Speaker #8: We do have some inflationary pressures, but we're absorbing them with these two factors. And the one that we are going to improve significantly in the second half is production.
Speaker #8: So, I'm confident that we are going to deliver on our guidance on net cash cost for the full year, yeah.
Speaker #5: Got it. That's great. Thanks, Mauricio.
Matt Greene: Got it. That's great. Thanks very soon.
Matt Greene: Got it. That's great. Thanks very soon.
Speaker #1: Thank you. I'll now hand over to Rob Simmons for written questions. Rob, please go ahead.
Operator 2: Thank you. I'll now hand over to Rob Simmons for written questions. Rob, please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. I'll now hand over to Rob Simmons for written questions. Rob, please go ahead.
Speaker #8: Thank you. First, written question comes from Patrick Jones at JP Morgan. The new administration in Chile has passed legislation to cut corporate tax rates.
Rob Simmons: Thank you. First written question comes from Patrick Jones at JP Morgan. The new administration in Chile has passed legislation to cut corporate tax rates. What impact do you expect this to have on the company's effective tax rate going forward?
Rob Simmons: Thank you. First written question comes from Patrick Jones at JP Morgan. The new administration in Chile has passed legislation to cut corporate tax rates. What impact do you expect this to have on the company's effective tax rate going forward?
Speaker #8: What impact do you expect this to have on the company's effective tax rate going forward? Okay. And that's the question, Rob, yeah? Correct.
Iván Arriagada: Okay. That's the question, Rob, yeah?
Iván Arriagada: Okay. That's the question, Rob, yeah?
Rob Simmons: Correct.
Rob Simmons: Correct.
Speaker #8: Yeah. Okay. So that's still legislation, which is in the process of being considered and approved in Congress. So it's still not in place. And it does essentially include a reduction in the corporate income tax rate from the current 27% to 23% over a period of a few years.
Iván Arriagada: Yeah. Okay. So that's still legislation which is in the process of being considered and approved in Congress. So it's still not in place. And it does essentially include a reduction in the corporate income tax rate from the current 27% to 23% over a period of a few years. If that is enacted, we would get the benefit of that reduction. Although our total tax, when it includes withholding tax, because withholding tax operates as the top up tax, would not change. But we would get that benefit at the corporate tax level. Not as I say, when we top up for dividend purposes. So it's likely to be more of a temporary benefit. And we would, however, get the benefit on our deferred tax calculations, which is something that we should review when and if this is turned into law.
Iván Arriagada: Yeah. Okay. So that's still legislation which is in the process of being considered and approved in Congress. So it's still not in place. And it does essentially include a reduction in the corporate income tax rate from the current 27% to 23% over a period of a few years. If that is enacted, we would get the benefit of that reduction. Although our total tax, when it includes withholding tax, because withholding tax operates as the top up tax, would not change. But we would get that benefit at the corporate tax level. Not as I say, when we top up for dividend purposes. So it's likely to be more of a temporary benefit. And we would, however, get the benefit on our deferred tax calculations, which is something that we should review when and if this is turned into law.
Speaker #8: So, if that is enacted, you know, we would get the benefit of that reduction. Although our total tax, when it includes withholding tax—because withholding tax operates as the top-up tax—would not change.
Speaker #8: But we would get that benefit in the at the corporate tax level, yeah. Not when, as I say, when we top up for dividend purposes.
Speaker #8: So it's likely to be more of a temporary benefit. However, we would get the benefit on our deferred tax calculations, which is something that we should review when and if this is turned into law.
Speaker #8: So overall, the direction of this is positive, in the sense that, you know, we think it reduces, you know, the levy of taxation. You know, some of it is transitory.
Iván Arriagada: Overall, the direction of this is positive in the sense that we think it reduces the levy of taxation. Some of it transitory, but from that point of view, it does introduce an extra element of competitiveness, which is very important. And generally, the bill where this is homed is one which has got that inspiration of being able to promote investment and business activity and employment. So positive from that point of view.
Iván Arriagada: Overall, the direction of this is positive in the sense that we think it reduces the levy of taxation. Some of it transitory, but from that point of view, it does introduce an extra element of competitiveness, which is very important. And generally, the bill where this is homed is one which has got that inspiration of being able to promote investment and business activity and employment. So positive from that point of view.
Speaker #8: But from that point of view, it does introduce an extra element of competitiveness, which is very important. And generally, the bill where this is homed is one which has got that inspiration of being able to promote investment and business activity and employment.
Speaker #8: So positive from that point of view. Thank you. The second written question comes from David Radcliffe at Global Mining Research. The question is as follows.
Rob Simmons: Thank you. The second written question comes from David Radclyffe at Global Mining Research. The question is as follows: You have had your 19% stake in Buenaventura for more than 2 years now. Is there any additional clarity that you can provide in terms of strategy? Are you considering taking profits or distributing shares to Antofagasta shareholders to realize the value?
Rob Simmons: Thank you. The second written question comes from David Radclyffe at Global Mining Research. The question is as follows: You have had your 19% stake in Buenaventura for more than 2 years now. Is there any additional clarity that you can provide in terms of strategy? Are you considering taking profits or distributing shares to Antofagasta shareholders to realize the value?
Speaker #8: You have had your 19% stake in Buenaventura for more than two years now. Is there any additional clarity that you can provide in terms of strategy?
Speaker #8: Are you considering taking profits or distributing shares to Anto's shareholders to realize the value? So in Buenaventura, I think we've had a entry at a good point in time and the purpose we had was to be able to build, you know, a beachhead in Peru.
Iván Arriagada: In Buenaventura, I think we've had entry at a good point in time. And the purpose we had was to be able to build a beachhead in Peru. We like Peru for mining purposes, and alongside our share in Buenaventura, we have our own exploration team looking for opportunities. And since we've joined, the company has done well. Certainly, the price conditions have been beneficial and we've seen an important benefit out of joining Buenaventura. And we continue to work with the company, with its board and management. We are members of the board. In fact, Mauricio and myself sit in the board and therefore continue to work to develop the projects that they have. And obviously we're very interested in the possibilities and opportunities that they have in copper.
Iván Arriagada: In Buenaventura, I think we've had entry at a good point in time. And the purpose we had was to be able to build a beachhead in Peru. We like Peru for mining purposes, and alongside our share in Buenaventura, we have our own exploration team looking for opportunities. And since we've joined, the company has done well. Certainly, the price conditions have been beneficial and we've seen an important benefit out of joining Buenaventura. And we continue to work with the company, with its board and management. We are members of the board. In fact, Mauricio and myself sit in the board and therefore continue to work to develop the projects that they have. And obviously we're very interested in the possibilities and opportunities that they have in copper.
Speaker #8: We like Peru for mining purposes, and alongside our share in Buenaventura, we have our own exploration team looking for opportunities. And since we've joined, you know, the company has done well. Certainly, the price conditions have been beneficial.
Speaker #8: And we've seen an important benefit out of joining Buenaventura. And we continue to work with the company with, you know, its board and management.
Speaker #8: We are members of the board. In fact, Mauricio and myself sit in the board and therefore continue to work to develop the projects, you know, that they have.
Speaker #8: And obviously, we're very interested in the possibilities and opportunities that they have in copper. But we see this with the perspective of, you know, the opportunities that we can jointly continue to work on and develop.
Iván Arriagada: But we see this with the perspective of the opportunities that we can jointly continue to work on and develop. So that remains unchanged from a strategic point of view, and granted that we do recognize that the results have been very positive since we went into the company.
Iván Arriagada: But we see this with the perspective of the opportunities that we can jointly continue to work on and develop. So that remains unchanged from a strategic point of view, and granted that we do recognize that the results have been very positive since we went into the company.
Speaker #8: So that remains unchanged from a strategic point of view and granted that we do recognize that the results have been very positive since we went into the company.
Speaker #8: Good. Thank you. The final written question is as follows. You mentioned a strong EBITDA margin of 63%, which is a historical record. Will this stronger margin persist or is it largely the result of the stronger pricing of the byproduct metals this quarter?
Rob Simmons: Good. Thank you. The final written question is as follows. You mentioned a strong EBITDA margin of 63%, which is a historical record. Will this stronger margin persist, or is it largely the result of the stronger pricing of the by-product metals this quarter?
Rob Simmons: Good. Thank you. The final written question is as follows. You mentioned a strong EBITDA margin of 63%, which is a historical record. Will this stronger margin persist, or is it largely the result of the stronger pricing of the by-product metals this quarter?
Speaker #8: Yeah. I mean, certainly our focus remains on keeping the competitiveness of our costs we have very competitive costs, net cash costs, which in bold both elements, one you know, the discipline with which we manage our cost base and also the benefit of our byproducts.
Iván Arriagada: Yeah. Certainly our focus remains on keeping the competitiveness of our costs. We have very competitive costs, net cash costs, which involve both elements. One, the discipline with which we manage our cost base and also the benefit of our by-products. But we continue to work on this. We have also shared that we have a competitiveness program which is delivering results, and after many years of having been in place, it continues to deliver results. Now, going forward, we will not change the focus on cost, which is behind a strong EBITDA margin. We have also the startup, when the project is finished, of the second concentrator at Centinela, which gives us extra scale and the ability to continue to reduce unit costs. Part of the strategy around the development of the second concentrator is actually moving Centinela to the first quartile.
Iván Arriagada: Yeah. Certainly our focus remains on keeping the competitiveness of our costs. We have very competitive costs, net cash costs, which involve both elements. One, the discipline with which we manage our cost base and also the benefit of our by-products. But we continue to work on this. We have also shared that we have a competitiveness program which is delivering results, and after many years of having been in place, it continues to deliver results. Now, going forward, we will not change the focus on cost, which is behind a strong EBITDA margin. We have also the startup, when the project is finished, of the second concentrator at Centinela, which gives us extra scale and the ability to continue to reduce unit costs. Part of the strategy around the development of the second concentrator is actually moving Centinela to the first quartile.
Speaker #8: But we continue to work on this. We've also shared that we have a competitiveness program, which is delivering results. And, after many years of being in place, it continues to deliver results.
Speaker #8: Now, going forward, we won't change the focus on cost, which is, you know, behind a strong EBITDA margin. We have also the startup when the project is finished of the second concentrator at Sentinela, which gives us extra scale.
Speaker #8: And the ability to continue to reduce unit costs, you know, part of the strategy, around the development of the second concentrator is actually moving Sentinela to the first quartile.
Speaker #8: So, cost management and cost competitiveness across the board will continue to be a key priority. This is what we believe will sustain the high EBITDA margins that we've recorded.
Iván Arriagada: So, cost management and cost competitiveness across the board will continue to be a key priority, which is what we believe will sustain the high EBITDA margins that we have recorded. Now, obviously, those margins are also dependent on prices. But our view is that we control our costs, we work to reduce them and keep them competitive. And that is the best strategy which will serve us well throughout the cycle. So it is very much a feature that we are on top of, and it is a priority that we continue to systematically work on.
Iván Arriagada: So, cost management and cost competitiveness across the board will continue to be a key priority, which is what we believe will sustain the high EBITDA margins that we have recorded. Now, obviously, those margins are also dependent on prices. But our view is that we control our costs, we work to reduce them and keep them competitive. And that is the best strategy which will serve us well throughout the cycle. So it is very much a feature that we are on top of, and it is a priority that we continue to systematically work on.
Speaker #8: Now, obviously, those margins are also dependent on prices. But our view is that we control our costs. We work to reduce them and keep them competitive.
Speaker #8: And that is, you know, the best strategy which will serve us well throughout the cycle. So it's very much a feature that we are on top of, and it's a priority that we continue to systematically work on.
Speaker #1: Thank you. That concludes the written questions. We have one final question from Anne Rousseau with Barclays. Please unmute to ask your question.
Operator 2: Thank you. That concludes the written questions. We have one final question from Ian Rossouw with Barclays. Please unmute to ask your question.
Operator: Thank you. That concludes the written questions. We have one final question from Ian Rossouw with Barclays. Please unmute to ask your question.
Speaker #2: Thanks. Can you guys hear me? Sorry, my video is still not working. Just a follow-up for Maurizio. And the sort of basically alluding to what Dan was asking.
Ian Rossouw: Thanks. Can you guys hear me? Sorry, my video is still not working.
Ian Rossouw: Thanks. Can you guys hear me? Sorry, my video is still not working.
Iván Arriagada: Yeah.
Iván Arriagada: Yeah.
Ian Rossouw: Just a follow-up for Mauricio, and just sort of basically alluding to what Daniel was asking. Is the intention still to draw down entirely on that $2.5 billion project finance facility for the Centinela second concentrator? I am just thinking, obviously you didn't in the H1 draw down on that facility at all, given the strong cash flow. If Centinela generates another good year of cash flow next year, could you also still fund that from operating cash flows, or is the intention to fully utilize that $2.5 billion facility?
Ian Rossouw: Just a follow-up for Mauricio, and just sort of basically alluding to what Daniel was asking. Is the intention still to draw down entirely on that $2.5 billion project finance facility for the Centinela second concentrator? I am just thinking, obviously you didn't in the H1 draw down on that facility at all, given the strong cash flow. If Centinela generates another good year of cash flow next year, could you also still fund that from operating cash flows, or is the intention to fully utilize that $2.5 billion facility?
Speaker #2: Is the intention still to draw down entirely on that $2.5 billion project finance facility for the Sentinela second concentrator? I'm just thinking, obviously, you didn't in the first half draw down on that facility at all, given the strong cash flow.
Speaker #2: If Sentinela generates another good year of cash flow next year, could you also still fund that from operating cash flows, or is the intention to fully utilize that $2.5 billion facility?
Mauricio Ortiz: Well, Ian, we have a plan and we announced the plan, and we are delivering according to the plan. So time differences are just time difference. But along with a strong engineering design, we also design a very strong financial strategy to deliver Centinela second concentrator. So we are executing. If there is time difference, it is just time difference.
Mauricio Ortiz: Well, Ian, we have a plan and we announced the plan, and we are delivering according to the plan. So time differences are just time difference. But along with a strong engineering design, we also design a very strong financial strategy to deliver Centinela second concentrator. So we are executing. If there is time difference, it is just time difference.
Speaker #8: Well, Ian, we have a plan and we announced the plan and we are delivering according to the plan. Yeah. So time differences are just time difference.
Speaker #8: But along with a strong engineering design, we also design a very strong financial strategy to deliver Sentinela second concentrator. So we're executing. If there is time difference, it's just time difference.
Speaker #8: Yeah.
Speaker #2: Okay. So the plan still to draw down fully on that project facility.
Ian Rossouw: Okay. The plan is still to draw down fully on that project facility.
Ian Rossouw: Okay. The plan is still to draw down fully on that project facility.
Mauricio Ortiz: For now, yes.
Mauricio Ortiz: For now, yes.
Speaker #8: Correct. Yes.
Speaker #2: Brilliant. Thank you very much. That's all.
Ian Rossouw: Brilliant. Thank you very much. That is all.
Ian Rossouw: Brilliant. Thank you very much. That is all.
Speaker #8: Yes.
Iván Arriagada: Yes.
Iván Arriagada: Yes.
Speaker #1: We've had a follow-up question come in from Daniel Major with UBS. Please unmute to ask your question.
Operator 2: We have had a follow-up question come in from Daniel Major with UBS. Please unmute to ask your question.
Operator: We have had a follow-up question come in from Daniel Major with UBS. Please unmute to ask your question.
Speaker #3: Hi guys. Dan, I've got the camera option, but can you hear me okay?
Daniel Major: Hi, guys. Don't know if I've got the camera option, but can you hear me okay?
Daniel Major: Hi, guys. Don't know if I've got the camera option, but can you hear me okay?
Speaker #8: Yes.
Mauricio Ortiz: Yes, go on.
Mauricio Ortiz: Yes, go on.
Daniel Major: Yeah. Okay, cool. Thanks. Just a final one. Just a reminder, I know you're obviously focused on delivering the current phase of the Centinela expansion. But in the past, you've talked of multiphased expansion and the additional optionality the ore body has. Can you just remind us where the permitting would fit with that in terms of medium to longer term? What permitting would be required to incrementally expand the concentrator again on a longer-term time horizon?
Daniel Major: Yeah. Okay, cool. Thanks. Just a final one. Just a reminder, I know you're obviously focused on delivering the current phase of the Centinela expansion. But in the past, you've talked of multiphased expansion and the additional optionality the ore body has. Can you just remind us where the permitting would fit with that in terms of medium to longer term? What permitting would be required to incrementally expand the concentrator again on a longer-term time horizon?
Speaker #3: Yeah. Okay. Cool. Thanks. Yeah, just a final one—just a reminder—and obviously, focus on delivering the current phase of the Sentinela expansion. But in the past, you've talked of, you know, multi-phased expansion and the additional optionality that your body has.
Speaker #3: Can you just remind us where the permitting would fit with that in terms of, you know, medium to longer term what permitting would be required to incrementally expand the concentrator again on a longer term time horizon?
Speaker #8: Yeah. We and in the permit that we have in place, includes the current phase, which is the construction of the concentrator. And also a increase up to 150,000 ton a day of capacity.
Iván Arriagada: Yeah. I mean, the permit that we have in place includes the current phase, which is the construction of the concentrator. Also an increase up to 150,000 tons a day of capacity. Essentially all of that is covered in the current mother permit, if you want. So that's the answer. Both these phases are included.
Iván Arriagada: Yeah. I mean, the permit that we have in place includes the current phase, which is the construction of the concentrator. Also an increase up to 150,000 tons a day of capacity. Essentially all of that is covered in the current mother permit, if you want. So that's the answer. Both these phases are included.
Speaker #8: Yeah, so essentially all of that is covered in the current mother permit, if you want. So that's the answer: both these phases are included.
Speaker #3: Okay. Thanks. And Maurizio, you alluded to earlier you do have a would you have additional water infrastructure capacity to take up to 150 as well?
Daniel Major: Okay, thanks. Mauricio, you alluded to it earlier, would you have additional water infrastructure capacity to take up to 150 as well?
Daniel Major: Okay, thanks. Mauricio, you alluded to it earlier, would you have additional water infrastructure capacity to take up to 150 as well?
Speaker #8: Yes, there is additional water infrastructure capacity to increase throughput, in both concentrators.
Mauricio Ortiz: Yeah, there is additional water infrastructure capacity to increase throughput, yeah, in both concentrates.
Mauricio Ortiz: Yeah, there is additional water infrastructure capacity to increase throughput, yeah, in both concentrates.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Okay. Great. Thanks a lot.
Daniel Major: Okay, great. Thanks a lot.
Daniel Major: Okay, great. Thanks a lot.
Speaker #1: Thank you. There are no further questions. Therefore, I'll hand back to Yvonne for closing comments.
Operator 2: Thank you. There are no further questions. I therefore hand back to Iván for closing comments.
Operator: Thank you. There are no further questions. I therefore hand back to Iván for closing comments.
Speaker #8: Thank you. Well, thank you for joining us today. I hope that we've sort of addressed your questions and queries. But if we haven't, please feel free to reach out to Robin, our London office.
Iván Arriagada: Well, thank you for joining us today. I hope that we've addressed your questions and queries, but if we haven't, please feel free to reach out to Rob in our London office, should you have any further questions. Then just to summarize, we think we've delivered a set of strong financial results on the basis of our focus on cost and also on a favorable set of market price conditions. We continue to make good progress on our projects. Just to reiterate something which has been asked, in the case of the second concentrate, we expect to complete the commissioning in 2027 and ramp up the operation in 2028. In the case of Pelambres, we also, in terms of the growth-enabling project, are making good progress, and expect to largely commission that infrastructure next year.
Iván Arriagada: Well, thank you for joining us today. I hope that we've addressed your questions and queries, but if we haven't, please feel free to reach out to Rob in our London office, should you have any further questions. Then just to summarize, we think we've delivered a set of strong financial results on the basis of our focus on cost and also on a favorable set of market price conditions. We continue to make good progress on our projects. Just to reiterate something which has been asked, in the case of the second concentrate, we expect to complete the commissioning in 2027 and ramp up the operation in 2028. In the case of Pelambres, we also, in terms of the growth-enabling project, are making good progress, and expect to largely commission that infrastructure next year.
Speaker #8: Should you have any further questions. And then just to summarize, we think we've delivered a set of strong financial results, on the basis of our focus on cost and also on a favorable set of market price conditions.
Speaker #8: We continue to make good progress on our projects. And just to reiterate something which has been asked, in the case of the second concentrate, we expect to complete the commissioning in 2027 and ramp up the operation in 2028.
Speaker #8: And in the case of Pelambres, we also, in terms of the growth-enabling project, are making good progress and expect to largely, you know, commission that infrastructure next year.
Speaker #8: And because of the severe weather event, you know, we've adjusted our production guidance. But we've done and confronted this event, which is quite unique in the history of Pelambres in a very safe and orderly manner.
Iván Arriagada: Because of the severe weather event, we've adjusted our production guidance, but we've done and confronted this event, which is quite unique in the history of Pelambres, in a very safe and orderly manner, and that's the way that we've accomplished our shutdown and are ramping up operations in a very prudent way. Because we are in the H2 of winter, we are then factoring into our new range the possibility of there being more conditions associated to the winter in what's left. With that, again, thank you very much, and we're happy through our London office to continue any further questions on dial. Thank you very much.
Iván Arriagada: Because of the severe weather event, we've adjusted our production guidance, but we've done and confronted this event, which is quite unique in the history of Pelambres, in a very safe and orderly manner, and that's the way that we've accomplished our shutdown and are ramping up operations in a very prudent way. Because we are in the H2 of winter, we are then factoring into our new range the possibility of there being more conditions associated to the winter in what's left. With that, again, thank you very much, and we're happy through our London office to continue any further questions on dial. Thank you very much.
Speaker #8: And that's the way that we've accomplished shutdown and ramping up operations in a very prudent way. And because we are in the half of winter, we are then factoring into our new range the possibility of there being more conditions associated with the winter in what's left.
Speaker #8: So with that, again, thank you very much and we're happy through our London office to continue any further questions and dialogue. Thank you very much.
Operator 2: This concludes today's call. Thank you everyone for joining. You may now disconnect. Goodbye.
Operator: This concludes today's call. Thank you everyone for joining. You may now disconnect. Goodbye.
