Half Year 2026 Precise Biometrics AB (publ) Earnings Call - Pre-Recorded
[Analyst]: Q2 earnings report. For the first time, I would like to give a special welcome to the previous shareholders of Fingerprint Cards AB who are now shareholders of Precise Biometrics as a result of the recent merger. Today, I am joined by Precise Biometrics CEO, Joakim Nydemark. Hello.
Operator: Q2 earnings report. For the first time, I would like to give a special welcome to the previous shareholders of FPC who are now shareholders of Precise Biometrics as a result of the recent merger. Today, I am joined by Precise Biometrics CEO, Joakim Nydemark. Hello.
Speaker #1: Two earnings reports for the first time. I would like to give a special welcome to the previous shareholders of FPC, who are now shareholders of Precise Biometrics as a result of the recent merger.
Speaker #1: Today, I am joined by Precise Biometrics CEO Joakim Nydemark. Hello.
Speaker #2: Hi.
Joakim Nydemark: Hi.
Joakim Nydemark: Hi.
Speaker #1: Good to see you. There's been a lot happening in the last few months, in particular the merger with FPC and the recent capital raise. But perhaps we should start with the Q2 results.
[Analyst]: Good to see you. There has been a lot happening in the last few months, in particular, the merger with Fingerprint Cards AB and the recent capital raise, but perhaps we should start with the Q2 results. If you were to sum up the second quarter, what are you most pleased with and what has been the most challenging?
Operator: Good to see you. There has been a lot happening in the last few months, in particular, the merger with FPC and the recent capital raise, but perhaps we should start with the Q2 results. If you were to sum up the Q2, what are you most pleased with and what has been the most challenging?
Speaker #1: So, if you were to sum up the second quarter, what are you most pleased with, and what has been the most challenging?
Speaker #2: I would say during the quarter, there has been, of course, a lot of work related to the merger. And even though the merger was closed after the quarter, I'm still very, very proud that we finalized that.
Joakim Nydemark: I would say during the quarter, there has been, of course, a lot of work related to the merger, and even though the merger was closed after the quarter, I am still very proud that we finalized that. We have started the integration work, and we have also finalized now the rights issue. I am also pleased with the positive response we have got from customers and partners related to the merger, where we think that even though we strongly believe in this ourselves, it is always nice to hear the same sort of opinion and feedback from the customers and partners and markets. The third thing I would like to raise is that we continue to see growth in access and visitor management, which is also positive. The more challenging side is, of course, the drop in revenue and volume, which is nothing that I am pleased with at all, of course.
Joakim Nydemark: I would say during the quarter, there has been, of course, a lot of work related to the merger, and even though the merger was closed after the quarter, I am still very proud that we finalized that. We have started the integration work, and we have also finalized now the rights issue. I am also pleased with the positive response we have got from customers and partners related to the merger, where we think that even though we strongly believe in this ourselves, it is always nice to hear the same sort of opinion and feedback from the customers and partners and markets.
Speaker #2: We have started the integration work, and we have also finalized now the rights issue. I'm also pleased with the positive response we have got from customers and partners related to the merger, where we think that— I mean, even though we strongly believe in this ourselves— it's always nice to hear the same sort of opinion and feedback from the customers and partners and markets.
Speaker #2: The third thing I would like to raise is that we continue to see growth in access and visitor management, which is also positive. The more challenging side is, of course, the drop in revenue and volume, which is nothing that I'm pleased with at all, of course.
Joakim Nydemark: The third thing I would like to raise is that we continue to see growth in access and visitor management, which is also positive. The more challenging side is, of course, the drop in revenue and volume, which is nothing that I am pleased with at all, of course.
Speaker #2: It has an explanation. It's related to the low-end market, and the thing is that the prices of hardware have increased, and this was something that we have seen coming.
Joakim Nydemark: It has an explanation. It is related to the low-end market, and the thing is that the prices of hardware has increased, and this was something that we have seen coming. However, that is impacting to the largest extent, the low-end and non-ultrasonic market. If we look at the ultrasonic market, that is sort of on track. However, the drop in volume now is related to other software for other sensors that we have. We thought, and it was estimated that we should be able to bridge that. With a drop in the low-end market for other sensors, we were hoping for bridging that with the ultrasonic. However, we weren't able to really meet that, but we still see the trends for our focus area, ultrasonic. Moving forward here, I am still confident in the business we have.
Joakim Nydemark: It has an explanation. It is related to the low-end market, and the thing is that the prices of hardware has increased, and this was something that we have seen coming. However, that is impacting to the largest extent, the low-end and non-ultrasonic market. If we look at the ultrasonic market, that is sort of on track. However, the drop in volume now is related to other software for other sensors that we have.
Speaker #2: However, that is impacting, to the largest extent, the low-end and non-ultrasonic market. So if we look at the ultrasonic market, that is sort of on track.
Speaker #2: However, the drop in volume now is related to other software for other sensors that we have. And we thought, and it was estimated, that we should be able to bridge that.
Joakim Nydemark: We thought, and it was estimated that we should be able to bridge that. With a drop in the low-end market for other sensors, we were hoping for bridging that with the ultrasonic. However, we weren't able to really meet that, but we still see the trends for our focus area, ultrasonic. Moving forward here, I am still confident in the business we have.
Speaker #2: So, with a drop in the low-end market for other sensors, we were hoping to bridge that with the ultrasonic. However, we weren't really able to meet that, but we're still seeing the trends for our focus area—ultrasonic.
Speaker #2: So, moving forward here, I'm still confident in the business we have.
Speaker #1: So then, to go into some more of the actions that you've taken to offset this drop in volume—you mentioned the ultrasonic, but also perhaps the merger and the cost control. Are there any other particular actions that you would like to highlight?
[Analyst]: Then to go into some or more of the actions that you have taken then to offset this drop in volume. You mentioned the ultrasonic.
Operator: Then to go into some or more of the actions that you have taken then to offset this drop in volume. You mentioned the ultrasonic. But also perhaps the merger and the cost control. Are there any other particular actions that you would like to highlight?
[Analyst]: But also perhaps the merger and the cost control. Are there any other particular actions that you would like to highlight?
Speaker #2: Yes. So I would say that we had a firm strategy now, and the merger is certainly part of that, where we're now taking a step in the direction where we're growing the value chain, and with this merger we doubled the revenue, and we lowered the cost, and we put ourselves in a much better financial position.
Joakim Nydemark: Yes. I would say that we have a firm strategy now, and the merger is certainly part of that, where we now take a step in the direction where we grow in the value chain. With this merger, we double the revenue and we lower the cost and we put ourselves in a much better financial position, but also in a much better offering position. Looking at ultrasonic, this is something we will continue to focus on from a software perspective. But with the merger, we get a broader offer and this has also been a very clear sort of part of the strategy here moving forward. As you mentioned, the cost control, we are working continuously with optimization of our business overall and also making sure that we keep track and keep sort of the cost at a level where we need to be.
Joakim Nydemark: Yes. I would say that we have a firm strategy now, and the merger is certainly part of that, where we now take a step in the direction where we grow in the value chain. With this merger, we double the revenue and we lower the cost and we put ourselves in a much better financial position, but also in a much better offering position.
Speaker #2: But also, in a much better offering position. So, looking at ultrasonic, this is something we will continue to focus on from a software perspective. But with the merger, we get a broader offer, and this has also been a very clear part of the strategy here moving forward.
Joakim Nydemark: Looking at ultrasonic, this is something we will continue to focus on from a software perspective. But with the merger, we get a broader offer and this has also been a very clear sort of part of the strategy here moving forward. As you mentioned, the cost control, we are working continuously with optimization of our business overall and also making sure that we keep track and keep sort of the cost at a level where we need to be.
Speaker #2: And as you mentioned, the cost control. We are working continuously with optimization of our business overall, and also making sure that we keep track and keep the cost at a level where we need to be.
Speaker #1: And the FPC numbers were not included in this Q2 report since the merger was completed after Q2, but do you want to go into anything about how FPC performed during the second quarter?
[Analyst]: The Fingerprint Cards AB numbers were not included in this Q2 report since the merger was completed after Q2, but do you want to go into anything about how Fingerprint Cards AB performed during the second quarter?
Operator: The Fingerprint Cards AB numbers were not included in this Q2 report since the merger was completed after Q2, but do you want to go into anything about how Fingerprint Cards AB performed during the second quarter?
Speaker #2: That is correct. So, since this is a report for Q2 and the merger happened after, that is not part. So, the first quarter where we will have the numbers included from FPC will be in the Q3 report here in November.
Joakim Nydemark: That is correct. Since this is a report for Q2 and the merger happened after, that is not part. The first quarter where we will have the numbers included from FPC will be in the Q3 report here in November. In that report then, it will be the numbers for the FPC part from 20 July, which was the merger date. Looking at the FPC performance in Q2, it is according to the plan and our expectation. The important thing now is that we really keep track and traction in the ongoing business on both sides, both the FPC and the Precise side, and making sure that we do not lose any customer.
Joakim Nydemark: That is correct. Since this is a report for Q2 and the merger happened after, that is not part. The first quarter where we will have the numbers included from FPC will be in the Q3 report here in November. In that report then, it will be the numbers for the FPC part from 20 July, which was the merger date. Looking at the FPC performance in Q2, it is according to the plan and our expectation. The important thing now is that we really keep track and traction in the ongoing business on both sides, both the FPC and the Precise side, and making sure that we do not lose any customer.
Speaker #2: And in that report, then, it will be the numbers for the FPC part from the 20th of July, which was the merger date. Looking at the FPC performance in Q2, it is according to the plan and our expectation.
Speaker #2: And the important thing now is that we really keep track and traction in the ongoing business on both sides—both the FPC and the Precise side—and make sure that we don't lose any customers; on the contrary, that we move the customers we have forward. We also need to ensure that we now integrate everything, get the new offerings in place, and address the market with these new offerings from a sales and marketing perspective.
Joakim Nydemark: On the contrary, that we move the customer we have forward and then making sure that we now integrate everything and get the new offerings in place and address the market with these new offerings from a sales and marketing perspective.
Joakim Nydemark: On the contrary, that we move the customer we have forward and then making sure that we now integrate everything and get the new offerings in place and address the market with these new offerings from a sales and marketing perspective.
Speaker #1: Got it. So, for those viewers who might have been on summer vacation and haven't read up on all the news coming out of or surrounding the merger, do you want to perhaps remind them a little bit about what this merger means for Precise, both strategically and commercially?
[Analyst]: Got it. For those viewers who might have been on summer vacation and not read up on all the news that came out of or surrounding the merger, do you want to perhaps remind them a little bit about what this merger means for Precise strategically and commercially?
Operator: Got it. For those viewers who might have been on summer vacation and not read up on all the news that came out of or surrounding the merger, do you want to perhaps remind them a little bit about what this merger means for Precise strategically and commercially?
Speaker #2: I would like to summarize this as the start of a new beginning. So, this is really a big step. We also have a much larger market reach with this new company, and also the offerings as such, including both hardware and software, that we're now able to target a much broader audience with.
Joakim Nydemark: I would like to summarize this as the start of the new beginning. This is really a big step. We also have a much larger market reach with this new company and also the offerings as such, including both hardware and software that we now are able to target a much broader audience with. All in all, I think there are a lot of both strategically and commercial things that is falling into place with this merger.
Joakim Nydemark: I would like to summarize this as the start of the new beginning. This is really a big step. We also have a much larger market reach with this new company and also the offerings as such, including both hardware and software that we now are able to target a much broader audience with. All in all, I think there are a lot of both strategically and commercial things that is falling into place with this merger.
Speaker #2: So, all in all, I think there are a lot of both strategic and commercial things that are falling into place with this merger.
Speaker #1: Yeah. And so, then very briefly, do you just want to go into a little bit about what these offerings will look like and what the value offered to consumers would be as a combined company, as opposed to being two separate entities?
[Analyst]: Yeah. So then very briefly, do you just want to go into a little bit about what these offerings will look like and what the value offered to consumers would be as a combined company, as opposed to being two separate entities?
Operator: Yeah. So then very briefly, do you just want to go into a little bit about what these offerings will look like and what the value offered to consumers would be as a combined company, as opposed to being two separate entities?
Speaker #2: So what we're achieving now is a biometrics system that includes both hardware and software. And in more detail, this is about where we have both the actual sensors, we have secure elements, we have the MCU or the computing power, we have, of course, the algorithm and the spoof detection, and all of that is wrapped all together in one offer.
Joakim Nydemark: So what we're achieving now is a biometric system that includes both hardware and software. In more detail, this is about where we have both the actual sensors, we have secure elements, we have the MCU or the computing power. We have, of course, the algorithm, anti-spoof, and all of that is wrapped all together in one offer. This is something that we can then provide to a number of different products. To give you some example, this could be a FIDO token, for instance, these small security keys that protects sort of the user of a computer or computer programs. The other part of the business is related to our turnkey solutions, and this is physical access and visitor management, where we have turnkey offerings for enterprise business.
Joakim Nydemark: So what we're achieving now is a biometric system that includes both hardware and software. In more detail, this is about where we have both the actual sensors, we have secure elements, we have the MCU or the computing power. We have, of course, the algorithm, anti-spoof, and all of that is wrapped all together in one offer.
Speaker #2: And this is something that we can then provide to a number of different products. To give you some examples, this could be a feeder token, for instance.
Joakim Nydemark: This is something that we can then provide to a number of different products. To give you some example, this could be a FIDO token, for instance, these small security keys that protects sort of the user of a computer or computer programs. The other part of the business is related to our turnkey solutions, and this is physical access and visitor management, where we have turnkey offerings for enterprise business.
Speaker #2: This small security key protects the user of a computer or computer programs. The other part of the business is related to our turnkey solutions.
Speaker #2: And this is physical access and visitor management, where we have turnkey offerings for enterprise business. So in essence, the customer pain we are looking at, and this is we have several but one of them one of the more important ones, we see, is that AI is driving cyber threats, identity thefts, and data breach.
Joakim Nydemark: In essence, the customer pain we are looking at, and we have several, but one of the more important ones we see is that AI is driving cyber threats, identity thefts, and data breach. With our solution, including both hardware, software, and these secure elements and everything, we're able to provide a solution that increases the security of the system. More importantly, we're able to connect the user and the user identity to the authentication and the login. That is something I strongly believe will be key for this kind of secure solutions here moving forward.
Joakim Nydemark: In essence, the customer pain we are looking at, and we have several, but one of the more important ones we see is that AI is driving cyber threats, identity thefts, and data breach. With our solution, including both hardware, software, and these secure elements and everything, we're able to provide a solution that increases the security of the system. More importantly, we're able to connect the user and the user identity to the authentication and the login. That is something I strongly believe will be key for this kind of secure solutions here moving forward.
Speaker #2: And with our new solution, including both hardware and software and these secure elements and everything, we're able to provide a solution that increases the security of the system. But more importantly, we're able to connect the user and the user identity to the authentication and the login.
Speaker #2: And that is something I strongly believe will be key for this kind of secure solutions moving forward.
Speaker #1: And from what I understand, you will also be achieving estimated cost savings annually of around 45 million kronor. Do you want to go into a little bit about how that will happen and what kind of cost synergies we're talking about?
[Analyst]: From what I understand, you will also be achieving estimated cost savings annually of around SEK 45 million. Do you want to go into a little bit how that will happen and what kind of cost synergies we're talking about?
Operator: From what I understand, you will also be achieving estimated cost savings annually of around SEK 45 million. Do you want to go into a little bit how that will happen and what kind of cost synergies we're talking about?
Speaker #2: So the integration project as such is ongoing. It started already before the merger, but now it's definitely up to full speed. We have 14 workstreams as part of this integration.
Joakim Nydemark: The integration project as such is ongoing. It started already before the merger, but now it is definitely up in full speed. We have 14 work streams as part of this integration, and we have already executed on more than 30% of these cost synergies. I think we are moving really fast in this. Looking at what is happening here during the fall is that we will continue to execute on the cost synergies and making sure that we get all the integration bits and pieces in place. The target is to have everything done and start fresh in 2027 with everything in place, companies integrated, and the cost synergies executed.
Joakim Nydemark: The integration project as such is ongoing. It started already before the merger, but now it is definitely up in full speed. We have 14 work streams as part of this integration, and we have already executed on more than 30% of these cost synergies. I think we are moving really fast in this. Looking at what is happening here during the fall is that we will continue to execute on the cost synergies and making sure that we get all the integration bits and pieces in place. The target is to have everything done and start fresh in 2027 with everything in place, companies integrated, and the cost synergies executed.
Speaker #2: And we have already executed more than 30% of these cost synergies. So, I think we are moving really fast in this. Looking at what's happening here, during the fall, we will continue to execute on the cost synergies.
Speaker #2: And making sure that we get all the integration bits and pieces in place. The target is to have everything done and start fresh in 2027, with everything in place, companies integrated, and the cost synergies executed.
Speaker #1: And I also want to go into the rights issue that was executed here during the summer and provided the company with SEK 100 million in new capital.
[Analyst]: I also want to go into the rights issue that was executed here during the summer and provides the company with SEK 100 million in new capital. What will you do with the money, the funds that you raised?
Operator: I also want to go into the rights issue that was executed here during the summer and provides the company with SEK 100 million in new capital. What will you do with the money, the funds that you raised?
Speaker #1: What will you do with the money, the funds that you raised?
Speaker #2: So, when merging two companies, there is a cost related to that. So what we need to do here with some of the money is, of course, to make sure that we now execute on the integration and realize these synergies that we forecast, and make sure that we can bring those things and activities with us into 2027.
Joakim Nydemark: When merging two companies, there is a cost related to that. What we need to do here with some of the money is, of course, to make sure that we now execute on the integration and realize these synergies that we forecast and make sure that we can bring those things and activities with us into 2027. But also we will continue to grow and invest, of course. A very forward-leaning sort of spendings in sales and marketing to really make sure that we now capitalize on these opportunities and offering. Of course, also to get some of the product offerings merged and together.
Joakim Nydemark: When merging two companies, there is a cost related to that. What we need to do here with some of the money is, of course, to make sure that we now execute on the integration and realize these synergies that we forecast and make sure that we can bring those things and activities with us into 2027. But also we will continue to grow and invest, of course. A very forward-leaning sort of spendings in sales and marketing to really make sure that we now capitalize on these opportunities and offering. Of course, also to get some of the product offerings merged and together.
Speaker #2: But also, we will continue to grow and invest, of course. So, a very forward-leaning sort of spending in sales and marketing to really make sure that we now capitalize on these opportunities and offerings.
Speaker #2: And of course, also to get the product offerings merged and together. So, here we see that we already have good, complementary business and product offerings, but we also need to make sure that we merge these two in a good way.
Joakim Nydemark: Here we see that we have already good complementing business and product, but also we need to make sure that we merge these two in a good way and capitalize on those benefits where one plus one becomes more than two, and that is definitely what we see will happen.
Joakim Nydemark: Here we see that we have already good complementing business and product, but also we need to make sure that we merge these two in a good way and capitalize on those benefits where one plus one becomes more than two, and that is definitely what we see will happen.
Speaker #2: And capitalize on those benefits where one plus one becomes more than two. And that is definitely what we see will happen.
Speaker #1: Now, now that the merger is done and the capital raise is done, what milestones should investors look for here in the next 12 to 18 months?
[Analyst]: Now that the merger is done, the capital raise is done, what milestones should investors look for here in the 12 to 18 months ahead?
Operator: Now that the merger is done, the capital raise is done, what milestones should investors look for here in the 12 to 18 months ahead?
Speaker #2: So certainly, within 12 to 18 months, the integration is done, the cost synergies are realized, and we will be able to show growth, looking at the cross-sell, upsell, and new customer opportunities that we now foresee in this combined company.
Joakim Nydemark: Certainly within 12 to 18 months, the integration is done, the cost synergies are realized, and we will be able to show growth, looking at sort of the cross-sell, up-sell, new customer opportunities that we now foresee in this combined company and also with the combined offering. Then we have the product packaging. What I see will happen here as well is that we will be able to further explore opportunities in areas like national ID and FIDO tokens, to give you some examples, where we can together increase the value of the product and also for the customer and increase the growth and sales.
Joakim Nydemark: Certainly within 12 to 18 months, the integration is done, the cost synergies are realized, and we will be able to show growth, looking at sort of the cross-sell, up-sell, new customer opportunities that we now foresee in this combined company and also with the combined offering. Then we have the product packaging. What I see will happen here as well is that we will be able to further explore opportunities in areas like national ID and FIDO tokens, to give you some examples, where we can together increase the value of the product and also for the customer and increase the growth and sales.
Speaker #2: And also with the combined offering. And then we have the product packaging. So what I see will happen here as well is that we will be able to further explore opportunities in areas like national ID and title tokens, to give you some examples, where we can together increase the value of the product and also for the customer, and increase the growth and sales.
Speaker #2: And then if we look at an 18-month period, I would like to include also further consolidation and potential acquisition as part of this plan.
Joakim Nydemark: If we look at 18 months, I would like to include also further consolidation and potential acquisition that is part of this plan, where we have now proven that we are able to execute on this kind of consolidation that we now are working on with FPC. That open up opportunities also in the next step for further consolidation.
Joakim Nydemark: If we look at 18 months, I would like to include also further consolidation and potential acquisition that is part of this plan, where we have now proven that we are able to execute on this kind of consolidation that we now are working on with FPC. That open up opportunities also in the next step for further consolidation.
Speaker #2: When we have now proven that we are able to execute on this kind of consolidation that we now are working on with FPC, that opens up opportunities also in the next step for further consolidation.
Speaker #1: So, if you want to summarize the investment case—the updated investment case now, after the merger—what are, let's say, three points that you think are important that have changed now?
[Analyst]: If you want to summarize the investment case, the updated investment case now after the merger, what are, let's say, three points that you think are important that changed now?
Operator: If you want to summarize the investment case, the updated investment case now after the merger, what are, let's say, three points that you think are important that changed now?
Joakim Nydemark: Three points. I would like to say double revenue and lower cost. That is one area that I think is important to bring. Growing the value chain, that means higher value for the customer, but also we can address those offerings we now get to a larger customer base. The market reach as such, the geographical presence, and the larger customer base we get with the merged company is key. So those, I would say, are the top three. Then we can add the geopolitics and what is driving the opportunities for this merged company, which is the overall security situation in the world and the fast AI development, as mentioned earlier, where we see the identity theft and so on that is driving the need for biometric security and identity solutions.
Joakim Nydemark: Three points. I would like to say double revenue and lower cost. That is one area that I think is important to bring. Growing the value chain, that means higher value for the customer, but also we can address those offerings we now get to a larger customer base. The market reach as such, the geographical presence, and the larger customer base we get with the merged company is key.
Speaker #2: Three points. I would like to say double revenue and lower cost, so that is one area that I think is important to bring. Growing in the value chain means higher value for the customer, but also that we can address those offerings to a larger customer base.
Speaker #2: And the market reach as such, the geographical presence, and the larger customer base we get with the merged company is key. So those, I would say, are the top three.
Joakim Nydemark: So those, I would say, are the top three. Then we can add the geopolitics and what is driving the opportunities for this merged company, which is the overall security situation in the world and the fast AI development, as mentioned earlier, where we see the identity theft and so on that is driving the need for biometric security and identity solutions.
Speaker #2: And then we can add the geopolitics and what is driving sort of the opportunities for this merged company, which is the overall security situation in the world, and the fast AI development, as mentioned earlier, where we see the identity theft and so on that is driving the need for biometric security and identity solutions.
Speaker #1: Yeah, so the timing of this merger is, in a sense, everything, right? Because it's driven by actual market demand that you've identified, if I understand it correctly.
[Analyst]: Yeah. So the timing of this merger is in a sense everything, right. Because it's driven by actual market demand that you've identified, if I understand it correctly.
Operator: Yeah. So the timing of this merger is in a sense everything, right. Because it's driven by actual market demand that you've identified, if I understand it correctly.
Speaker #2: That is correct. Yes, so it's a combination of the timing, what we are now doing in this joint company—this merger—and the market out there, where we see the need and the opportunities.
Joakim Nydemark: That is correct. Yes. So it's a combination of the timing, what we are now doing in this joint company, this merger, and the market out there where we see the need and the opportunities.
Joakim Nydemark: That is correct. Yes. So it's a combination of the timing, what we are now doing in this joint company, this merger, and the market out there where we see the need and the opportunities.
Speaker #1: Okay. Very good. I think that's all the time we have today. Thank you, Kim, and thank you to all of you who are watching this today on August 26th in the morning.
[Analyst]: Okay. Very good. I think that's all the time we have today. Thank you, Joakim, and for all of you who are watching this today on 26 August in the morning, we would also like to remind you that the company will be hosting a live Q&A session this afternoon at 1:00 PM with Joakim and CFO Maria Wester. You can find the link on Precise Biometrics website and in the description below. Thank you very much for watching, and we'll see you next time.
Operator: Okay. Very good. I think that's all the time we have today. Thank you, Joakim, and for all of you who are watching this today on 26 August in the morning, we would also like to remind you that the company will be hosting a live Q&A session this afternoon at 1:00 PM with Joakim and CFO Maria Wester. You can find the link on Precise Biometrics website and in the description below. Thank you very much for watching, and we'll see you next time.
Speaker #1: We would also like to remind you that the company will be hosting a live Q&A session this afternoon at 1:00 p.m. with you, Kim, and CFO Maria Bester.
Speaker #1: And you can find the link on Precise Biometrics' website and in the description below. Thank you very much for watching, and we'll see you next time.
Joakim Nydemark: Thank you.
Joakim Nydemark: Thank you.
