Q4 2026 Singapore Exchange Ltd Earnings Call
Liana Chue: Very good evening to everyone joining us here today, both in-person and via the webcast. I'm Liana from Investor Relations. Welcome to SGX Group's FY 2026 full year results briefing. In a while, I will invite our CFO, Mr. Daniel Koh, to present the financial highlights, followed by our CEO, Mr. Loh Boon Chye, who will present the business updates. Following the presentations, we will have a Q&A session with SGX senior management. Please introduce yourself before you ask your questions. It's now my pleasure to invite Dan to present the financial results. Dan, please.
Liana Chue: Very good evening to everyone joining us here today, both in-person and via the webcast. I'm Liana from Investor Relations. Welcome to SGX Group's FY 2026 Full Year Results briefing. In a while, I will invite our CFO, Mr. Daniel Koh, to present the financial highlights, followed by our CEO, Mr. Loh Boon Chye, who will present the business updates. Following the presentations, we will have a Q&A session with SGX senior management. Please introduce yourself before you ask your questions. It's now my pleasure to invite Dan to present the financial results. Dan, please.
Speaker #2: Very good evening to everyone joining us here today, both in person and via the webcast. I'm Leanna from Investor Relations. Welcome to SGX Group's FY2026 full-year results briefing.
Speaker #2: In a while, I will invite our CFO, Mr. Daniel Highlights, followed by our CEO, Mr. Loh Boon Chai, who will present the business updates.
Speaker #2: Following the presentations, we will have a Q&A session with SGX Senior Management. Please introduce yourself before you ask your questions. It's now my pleasure to invite Dan to present the financial results.
Speaker #2: Dan, please.
Speaker #3: Good evening, everyone. Thank you for joining us here today. It is a real pleasure to share with you SGX Group's standout performance for the financial year 2026.
Daniel Koh: Good evening, everyone. Thank you for joining us here today. It is a real pleasure to share with you SGX Group's standout performance for financial year 2026. We achieved another milestone year, delivering our highest ever full year revenue and earnings. Net revenue grew by 14% and adjusted earnings grew by 25%, continuing the strong momentum from a high base in FY 2025. Net revenue for our equities cash business or SGX Stock Exchange grew significantly by 28% as the Securities Daily Average Value rose 35% to its highest level in 18 years. This strong performance was built on structural market changes and focused execution. SGX FX delivered another record year with net revenue increasing 12% on average daily volume of a US $190 billion, driven by client expansion and platform innovation.
Daniel Koh: Good evening, everyone. Thank you for joining us here today. It is a real pleasure to share with you SGX Group's standout performance for financial year 2026. We achieved another milestone year, delivering our highest ever full year revenue and earnings. Net revenue grew by 14% and adjusted earnings grew by 25%, continuing the strong momentum from a high base in FY 2025. Net revenue for our equities cash business or SGX Stock Exchange grew significantly by 28% as the Securities Daily Average Value rose 35% to its highest level in 18 years. This strong performance was built on structural market changes and focused execution. SGX FX delivered another record year with net revenue increasing 12% on average daily volume of a $190 billion, driven by client expansion and platform innovation.
Speaker #3: We achieved another milestone year, delivering our highest-ever full-year revenue and earnings. Net revenue grew by 14%, and adjusted earnings grew by 25%, continuing the strong momentum from a high base in FY25.
Speaker #3: Net revenue for our Equities Cash business, or SGX Stock Exchange, grew significantly by 28%, as the securities daily average value rose 35% to its highest level in 18 years.
Speaker #3: This strong performance was built on structural market changes and focused execution. SGX FX delivered another record year, with net revenue increasing 12% on average daily volume of US$190 billion, driven by client expansion and platform innovation.
Speaker #3: Currencies and commodities continued their strong growth trajectory, led by record volumes of several products, including CNH and INR currency futures, INR freight, petrochemicals, and dairy contracts.
Daniel Koh: Currencies and commodities continued its strong growth trajectory, led by record volumes of several products, including CNH and INR currency futures, INR, freight, petrochemicals, and dairy contracts. Equity derivatives net revenue was comparable, maintaining momentum from a record-high base last year as our flagship China and India index franchises continued to capture risk management needs. Expenses increased by approximately 6% at the higher end of our guidance as we stepped up on investments. I will elaborate on the key cost drivers shortly. More importantly, we remain focused on operating leverage as the business scales. We are confident in delivering medium-term growth. We expect broad-based growth across all operating segments in FY 2027 as our diversified multi-asset strategy positions us well to deliver strong performance amid ongoing global uncertainties. We remain disciplined in capital management, balancing strategic investment and shareholder return.
Daniel Koh: Currencies and commodities continued its strong growth trajectory, led by record volumes of several products, including CNH and INR currency futures, INR, freight, petrochemicals, and dairy contracts. Equity derivatives net revenue was comparable, maintaining momentum from a record-high base last year as our flagship China and India index franchises continued to capture risk management needs. Expenses increased by approximately 6% at the higher end of our guidance as we stepped up on investments. I will elaborate on the key cost drivers shortly. More importantly, we remain focused on operating leverage as the business scales. We are confident in delivering medium-term growth. We expect broad-based growth across all operating segments in FY 2027 as our diversified multi-asset strategy positions us well to deliver strong performance amid ongoing global uncertainties. We remain disciplined in capital management, balancing strategic investment and shareholder return.
Speaker #3: Equity derivatives net revenue was comparable, maintaining momentum from a record high base last year, as our flagship China and India index franchises continued to capture risk management needs.
Speaker #3: Expenses increased by approximately 6%, at the higher end of our guidance, as we stepped up on investments. I will elaborate on the key cost drivers shortly.
Speaker #3: More importantly, we remained focused on operating leverage as the business scales. We are confident in delivering medium-term growth. We expect broad-based growth across all operating segments in FY27, as our diversified multi-asset strategy positions us well to deliver strong performance amid ongoing global uncertainties.
Speaker #3: We remain disciplined in capital management, balancing strategic investment and shareholder returns. In FY27, we expect expenses to increase by 6% to 8%, alongside Capex spend of approximately $100 million. This is important to support our long-term growth and competitiveness.
Daniel Koh: In FY27, we expect expenses to increase by 6% to 8%, alongside CapEx spend of approximately SGD 100 million. This is important to support our long-term growth and competitiveness. At the same time, I am pleased to announce that due to this year's capital recycling gains, the board has proposed a one-off additional dividend of SGD 0.125 per share. In addition to the previously guided Q4 dividend. This brings FY26's total dividend to SGD 0.57 per share, representing a 52% increase from the last financial year. Our strong balance sheet supports our plan to redeem our outstanding bonds in FY27 while positioning us well to pursue business opportunities. Let us walk through the headline financials. Group net revenue increased by 13.9%. Group expenses on an adjusted basis increased by 5.5%. Group NPAT on a reported basis increased by 7.8%, while on an adjusted basis, it increased by 24.6%.
Daniel Koh: In FY 2027, we expect expenses to increase by 6% to 8, alongside CapEx spend of approximately SGD 100 million. This is important to support our long-term growth and competitiveness. At the same time, I am pleased to announce that due to this year's capital recycling gains, the board has proposed a one-off additional dividend of SGD 0.125 per share. In addition to the previously guided Q4 dividend. This brings FY 2026's total dividend to SGD 0.57 per share, representing a 52% increase from the last financial year. Our strong balance sheet supports our plan to redeem our outstanding bonds in FY 2027 while positioning us well to pursue business opportunities. Let us walk through the headline financials. Group net revenue increased by 13.9%. Group expenses on an adjusted basis increased by 5.5%.
Speaker #3: At the same time, I am pleased to announce that, due to this year's capital recycling gains, the Board has proposed a one-off additional dividend of $12.50 per share.
Speaker #3: In addition to the previously guided fourth-quarter dividend, this brings FY26's total dividend to $57 per share, representing a 52% increase from the last financial year.
Speaker #3: Our strong balance sheet supports our plan to redeem our outstanding bonds in FY27, while positioning us well to pursue business opportunities. Now, let us walk through the headline financials.
Speaker #3: Group net revenue increased by 13.9%. Group expenses, on an adjusted basis, increased by 5.5%. Group NPAT, on a reported basis, increased by 7.8%, while on an adjusted basis it increased by 24.6%.
Daniel Koh: Group NPAT on a reported basis increased by 7.8%, while on an adjusted basis, it increased by 24.6%. Our margins continued to improve. Adjusted operating profit margin and adjusted NPAT margin increased by 3.1 percentage points and 4.4 percentage points respectively. Let me now elaborate on the group's net revenue performance across our four operating segments. Our FICC revenue grew SGD 55 million or 17%, accounting for 25% of total revenue. I had touched on the record volumes of SGX FX, commodity, and currency derivatives earlier. The breadth and depth of our multi-asset product suite and global client network position us well to capture increased risk management needs during heightened uncertainties. The equities cash revenue grew by SGD 100 million or 28% and contributed 34% to total revenue.
Speaker #3: Our margins continued to improve. Adjusted operating profit margin and adjusted NPAT margin increased by 3.1 percentage points and 4.4 percentage points, respectively. Let me now elaborate on the group's net revenue performance across our four operating segments.
Daniel Koh: Our margins continued to improve. Adjusted operating profit margin and adjusted NPAT margin increased by 3.1 percentage points and 4.4 percentage points respectively. Let me now elaborate on the group's net revenue performance across our four operating segments. Our FICC revenue grew SGD 55 million or 17%, accounting for 25% of total revenue. I had touched on the record volumes of SGX FX, commodity, and currency derivatives earlier. The breadth and depth of our multi-asset product suite and global client network position us well to capture increased risk management needs during heightened uncertainties. The equities cash revenue grew by SGD 100 million or 28% and contributed 34% to total revenue. The strong growth in SDAV reflected positive structural trends, including stronger fundraising activity and higher levels of participation across investor segments. Equity derivatives revenue was comparable year-on-year, maintaining last year's high base and accounted for 23% of total revenue.
Speaker #3: Our FICC revenue grew $55 million, or 17%, accounting for 25% of total revenue. I had touched on the record volumes of SGX FX, commodity, and currency derivatives earlier.
Speaker #3: The breadth and depth of our multi-asset product suite and global client network positioned us well to capture increased risk management needs during periods of heightened uncertainty.
Speaker #3: Equities cash revenue grew by $100 million, or 28%, and contributed 34% to total revenue. The strong growth in SDAV reflected positive structural trends, including stronger fundraising activity and higher levels of participation across investor segments.
Daniel Koh: The strong growth in SDAV reflected positive structural trends, including stronger fundraising activity and higher levels of participation across investor segments. Equity derivatives revenue was comparable year-on-year, maintaining last year's high base and accounted for 23% of total revenue.
Speaker #3: Equity derivatives revenue was comparable year-on-year, maintaining last year's high base, and accounted for 23% of total revenue. Equity derivatives volumes increased by 6%, driven by sustained demand in China A50, Nifty, and Taiwan contracts.
Daniel Koh: Equity derivatives volumes increased by 6%, driven by sustained demand in China A50, GIFT Nifty, and Taiwan contracts. The higher trading and clearing revenues were offset by lower treasury income. Platform and others revenue increased by 7%, driven by higher data and co-location sales and higher fees since the H2 of FY2025. This segment has grown at a steady average rate of 5% over the past three years. Moving on to expenses. Adjusted expenses increased by 5.5% as we increased resources to support growth initiatives. Total staff costs increased by SGD 27 million in both fixed and variable portions due to merit increments, higher headcount, and higher profitability. Technology expenses increased on various upgrades and system enhancements. Adjusted expenses were SGD 19 million lower than reported expenses because it excludes amortization of intangible assets, transformation-related costs, and other one-off items.
Daniel Koh: Equity derivatives volumes increased by 6%, driven by sustained demand in China A50, GIFT Nifty, and Taiwan contracts. The higher trading and clearing revenues were offset by lower treasury income. Platform and others revenue increased by 7%, driven by higher data and co-location sales and higher fees since the H2 of FY2025. This segment has grown at a steady average rate of 5% over the past three years. Moving on to expenses. Adjusted expenses increased by 5.5% as we increased resources to support growth initiatives. Total staff costs increased by SGD 27 million in both fixed and variable portions due to merit increments, higher headcount, and higher profitability. Technology expenses increased on various upgrades and system enhancements. Adjusted expenses were SGD 19 million lower than reported expenses because it excludes amortization of intangible assets, transformation-related costs, and other one-off items.
Speaker #3: The higher trading and clearing revenues were offset by lower Treasury income. Platform and others' revenue increased by 7%, driven by higher data and co-location sales, and higher fees since the second half of FY2025.
Speaker #3: This segment has grown at a steady average rate of 5% over the past three years. Moving on to expenses, adjusted expenses increased by 5.5% as we increased resources to support growth initiatives.
Speaker #3: Total staff costs increased by $27 million in both fixed and variable portions due to merit increments, higher headcount, and higher profitability. Technology expenses increased on various upgrades and system enhancements.
Speaker #3: Adjusted expenses were $19 million lower than reported expenses because they exclude amortization of intangible assets, transformation-related costs, and other one-off items. The transformation is focused on enhancing our technology capabilities as part of our strategy for future growth.
Daniel Koh: The transformation is focused on enhancing our technology capabilities as part of our strategy for future growth. This will be an area of focus for the next two years as we continue to invest here. Adjusted earnings reflect our underlying core performance by excluding non-cash and other adjustments. First, we removed a non-cash net fair value gain of SGD 10 million, in line with our announcement in the H1 of FY26 relating to the sale of Trading Technologies in July 2025. Second, we added back Scientific Beta's FY26 impairment charge of SGD 53 million, given the divestment on 8 July 2026. This transaction underscored our disciplined approach to capital management as we sharpen our focus on growth priorities. Lastly, we added back SGD 18 million consistent with items elaborated in the previous slide on expenses.
Daniel Koh: The transformation is focused on enhancing our technology capabilities as part of our strategy for future growth. This will be an area of focus for the next two years as we continue to invest here. Adjusted earnings reflect our underlying core performance by excluding non-cash and other adjustments. First, we removed a non-cash net fair value gain of SGD 10 million, in line with our announcement in the H1 of FY 2026 relating to the sale of Trading Technologies in July 2025. Second, we added back Scientific Beta's FY 2026 impairment charge of SGD 53 million, given the divestment on 8 July 2026. This transaction underscored our disciplined approach to capital management as we sharpen our focus on growth priorities. Lastly, we added back SGD 18 million consistent with items elaborated in the previous slide on expenses.
Speaker #3: This will be an area of focus for the next two years as we continue to invest here. Adjusted earnings reflect our underlying core performance by excluding non-cash and other adjustments.
Speaker #3: First, we removed a non-cash net fair value gain of $10 million, in line with our announcement in the first half of FY26, relating to the sale of Trading Technologies in July 2025.
Speaker #3: Second, we added back Scientific Beta's FY26 impairment charge of $53 million, given the divestment on July 8, 2026. This transaction underscored our disciplined approach to capital management as we sharpen our focus on growth priorities.
Speaker #3: Lastly, we added back $18 million, consistent with items elaborated in the previous slide on expenses. Turning to capital management, we remained disciplined and proactive in deploying capital to create long-term value.
Daniel Koh: Turning to capital management, we remained disciplined and proactive in deploying capital to create long-term value. Our strong execution has delivered a consistent growth track record while we undertake strategic capital recycling initiatives. We maintained a balanced approach, continued investment in growth opportunities, while delivering sustainable returns to shareholders. Turning to how we invest for growth organically, we will continue to deploy capital into opportunities that strengthen our competitive positioning. FY27 CapEx will increase to around SGD 100 million, reflecting targeted investments in product innovation, including the expansion of our SGX FX franchise and gold initiatives, platform modernization, and enhancing enterprise capabilities. In line with these, FY27 expenses are expected to increase by 6% to 8% as we continue to invest in technology and talent to drive growth. Now moving on to shareholder return.
Daniel Koh: Turning to capital management, we remained disciplined and proactive in deploying capital to create long-term value. Our strong execution has delivered a consistent growth track record while we undertake strategic capital recycling initiatives. We maintained a balanced approach, continued investment in growth opportunities, while delivering sustainable returns to shareholders. Turning to how we invest for growth organically, we will continue to deploy capital into opportunities that strengthen our competitive positioning. FY 2027 CapEx will increase to around SGD 100 million, reflecting targeted investments in product innovation, including the expansion of our SGX FX franchise and gold initiatives, platform modernization, and enhancing enterprise capabilities. In line with these, FY 2027 expenses are expected to increase by 6% to 8% as we continue to invest in technology and talent to drive growth. Now moving on to shareholder return.
Speaker #3: Our strong execution has delivered a consistent growth track record, while we undertake strategic capital recycling initiatives. We maintained a balanced approach and continued investment in growth opportunities, while delivering sustainable returns to shareholders.
Speaker #3: Turning to how we invest for growth organically, we will continue to deploy capital into opportunities that strengthen our competitive positioning. FY27 CapEx will increase to around $100 million, reflecting targeted investments in product innovation.
Speaker #3: Including the expansion of our SGX FX franchise and growth initiatives, platform modernization, and enhancing enterprise capabilities. In line with these, FY27 expenses are expected to increase by 6 to 8 percent as we continue to invest in technology and talent.
Speaker #3: To drive growth. Now, moving on to shareholder return, we remain fully committed to a sustainable and growing dividend, and are confident we will deliver the dividend growth trajectory of a 0.25 cent increase every quarter through FY28, as previously guided.
Daniel Koh: We remain fully committed to a sustainable and growing dividend and are confident to deliver the dividend growth trajectory of SGD 0.0025 increase every quarter to FY28 as previously guided. As highlighted earlier, the board proposes a SGD 0.125 one-off additional dividend from capital recycling gains this year, an amount higher than the fourth quarter planned dividend. This rewards our shareholders for your continued trust in SGX. FY26's total dividend will be SGD 0.57 per share, a 52% increase from FY25. With that, let me now hand over to Boon Chai, our CEO, who will deliver the business updates. Thank you.
Daniel Koh: We remain fully committed to a sustainable and growing dividend and are confident to deliver the dividend growth trajectory of SGD 0.0025 increase every quarter to FY28 as previously guided. As highlighted earlier, the board proposes a SGD 0.125 one-off additional dividend from capital recycling gains this year, an amount higher than the fourth quarter planned dividend. This rewards our shareholders for your continued trust in SGX. FY 2026's total dividend will be SGD 0.57 per share, a 52% increase from FY25. With that, let me now hand over to Boon Chai, our CEO, who will deliver the business updates. Thank you.
Speaker #3: As highlighted earlier, the Board proposes a one-off additional dividend of 12.5 cents from capital recycling gains this year—an amount higher than the planned fourth quarter dividend.
Speaker #3: This rewards our shareholders for your continued trust in SGX. FY26's total dividend will be $0.57 per share, a 52% increase from FY25. With that, let me now hand over to Boon Chai, our CEO, who will deliver the business updates.
Speaker #3: Thank you.
Speaker #2: Good evening, and thank you for joining us. As Daniel has shared, FY2026 was a strong year for SGX Group. Our performance demonstrates the strength of our multi-asset strategy that we have been executing over the past decade.
Loh Boon Chye: Good evening, and thank you for joining us. As Daniel has shared, FY26 was a strong year for SGX Group. Our performance demonstrates the strength of our multi-asset strategy that we've been executing over the past decade. We have deliberately built a broader, more resilient, and more global business. As a result, we are able to capture new opportunities across changing market environments. As we look ahead, global capital markets are being shaped by major structural shifts. Geopolitical uncertainty remains elevated. As capital allocation to Asia continues to grow, global investors are seeking cross-asset solutions and more efficient ways to manage their risk. Concurrently, rapid innovation is reshaping market infrastructure and client expectations. These strengths underscore the relevance of SGX long-term strategy. We are uniquely positioned to help clients navigate uncertainty across investment opportunities and connect capital across markets.
Loh Boon Chye: Good evening, and thank you for joining us. As Daniel has shared, FY 2026 was a strong year for SGX Group. Our performance demonstrates the strength of our multi-asset strategy that we've been executing over the past decade. We have deliberately built a broader, more resilient, and more global business. As a result, we are able to capture new opportunities across changing market environments. As we look ahead, global capital markets are being shaped by major structural shifts. Geopolitical uncertainty remains elevated. As capital allocation to Asia continues to grow, global investors are seeking cross-asset solutions and more efficient ways to manage their risk. Concurrently, rapid innovation is reshaping market infrastructure and client expectations. These strengths underscore the relevance of SGX long-term strategy. We are uniquely positioned to help clients navigate uncertainty across investment opportunities and connect capital across markets.
Speaker #2: We have deliberately built a broader, more resilient, and more global business. As a result, we are able to capture new opportunities across changing market environments.
Speaker #2: As we look ahead, global capital markets are being shaped by major structural shifts. Geopolitical uncertainty remains elevated. As capital allocation to Asia continues to grow, global investors are seeking cross-asset solutions and more efficient ways to manage their risk.
Speaker #2: Concurrently, rapid innovation is reshaping market infrastructure and client expectations. These strengths underscore the relevance of SGX's long-term strategy. What uniquely positions us to help clients navigate uncertainty across investment opportunities and connect capital across markets.
Speaker #2: To maintain this leadership and drive sustainable growth, we are investing with discipline across products, platform, and enterprise capabilities. Our established derivatives franchise is where the benefits of our global multi-asset business are most evident today.
Loh Boon Chye: To maintain this leadership and drive sustainable growth, we are investing with discipline across products, platform, and enterprise capabilities. Our established derivatives franchise is where the benefits of our global multi-asset business are most evident today. In FY26, we delivered another milestone year as we broaden and deepen our market leadership. The deep and diverse liquidity across our franchise anchors global participants with activity increasingly extending beyond Asian trading hours. T+1 volumes have risen from 18% in FY23 to 22% today, reflecting broader international participation. In listed FX, we see robust momentum. Volumes in our listed FX franchise has grown at 38% CAGR over the past three years as clients navigate heightened geopolitical and macroeconomic crosswinds.
Loh Boon Chye: To maintain this leadership and drive sustainable growth, we are investing with discipline across products, platform, and enterprise capabilities. Our established derivatives franchise is where the benefits of our global multi-asset business are most evident today. In FY 2026, we delivered another milestone year as we broaden and deepen our market leadership. The deep and diverse liquidity across our franchise anchors global participants with activity increasingly extending beyond Asian trading hours. T+1 volumes have risen from 18% in FY23 to 22% today, reflecting broader international participation. In listed FX, we see robust momentum. Volumes in our listed FX franchise has grown at 38% CAGR over the past three years as clients navigate heightened geopolitical and macroeconomic crosswinds.
Speaker #2: In FY26, we delivered another milestone year as we broadened and deepened our market leadership. The deep and diverse liquidity across our franchise anchors global participants, with activity increasingly extending beyond Asian trading hours.
Speaker #2: T+1 volumes have risen from 18% in FY23 to 22% today, reflecting broader international participation. In listed FX, we see robust momentum. Volumes in our listed FX franchise have grown at a 38% CAGR over the past three years, as clients navigate heightened geopolitical and macroeconomic crosswinds.
Speaker #2: Our R&B and rupee contracts are the second and eighth most traded FX futures contracts in the world. Adding to these flagship products, our fast-growing CNH futures with derivatives daily average volume is growing at a three-year CAGR of 77%.
Loh Boon Chye: Our RMB and INR contracts are the second and eighth most traded FX futures contracts in the world. Adding to these flagship products, our fast-growing currency futures with derivatives daily average volume growing at a three-year CAGR of 77%. In a world where Asia is gradually shaping global capital flows and currency markets, SGX has become the exchange where global participants come to manage Asian FX risk. For commodities, geopolitical risks are redefining the role of this asset class in global portfolios. We're seeing a critical inflection. Financial participants now represent over half of our trading volumes, with more than 70% of all futures volumes traded on screen, enabling robust price discovery and furthering liquidity. Our commodity derivatives volumes have expanded at a 24% three-year CAGR, anchored by iron ore. In equity derivatives, our strength lies in the scale and liquidity we have built across key Asian equity benchmarks.
Loh Boon Chye: Our RMB and INR contracts are the second and eighth most traded FX futures contracts in the world. Adding to these flagship products, our fast-growing currency futures with derivatives daily average volume growing at a three-year CAGR of 77%. In a world where Asia is gradually shaping global capital flows and currency markets, SGX has become the exchange where global participants come to manage Asian FX risk. For commodities, geopolitical risks are redefining the role of this asset class in global portfolios. We're seeing a critical inflection. Financial participants now represent over half of our trading volumes, with more than 70% of all futures volumes traded on screen, enabling robust price discovery and furthering liquidity. Our commodity derivatives volumes have expanded at a 24% three-year CAGR, anchored by iron ore. In equity derivatives, our strength lies in the scale and liquidity we have built across key Asian equity benchmarks.
Speaker #2: In a world where Asia is gradually shaping global capital flows and currency markets, SGX has become the exchange where global participants come to manage Asian FX risk.
Speaker #2: For commodities, geopolitical risks are redefining the role of this asset class in global portfolios. We are seeing a critical inflection. Financial participants now represent over half of our trading volumes, with more than 70% of all futures volumes traded on-screen, enabling robust price discovery and furthering liquidity.
Speaker #2: Our commodity derivatives volumes have expanded at a 24% three-year CAGR, anchored by iron ore. In equity derivatives, our strength lies in the scale and liquidity we have built across key Asian equity benchmarks.
Speaker #2: Liquidity attracts liquidity, creating powerful network effects that are difficult to replicate. In Greater China, our China A50 contract remains the most liquid international futures contract for Chinese equities.
Loh Boon Chye: Liquidity attracts liquidity, creating powerful network effects that are difficult to replicate. In Greater China, our China A50 contract remains the most liquid international futures contract for Chinese equities, anchoring substantial pools of liquidity as DAV grew 9% year on year in FY26. Our Taiwan futures contract is the most widely traded international futures, tracking one of the world's most important technology ecosystem, with almost 90% market share by volume and open interest. This has allowed investors to express their market views on the global chip industry, AI, and digitalization. We introduced micro Taiwan futures to provide more precise and cost-efficient access for a broader range of participants and have since applied this approach for our Japan and Singapore benchmarks. To maintain this growth, we are accelerating product innovation and deepening our partnerships with global index providers.
Loh Boon Chye: Liquidity attracts liquidity, creating powerful network effects that are difficult to replicate. In Greater China, our China A50 contract remains the most liquid international futures contract for Chinese equities, anchoring substantial pools of liquidity as DAV grew 9% year on year in FY 2026. Our Taiwan futures contract is the most widely traded international futures, tracking one of the world's most important technology ecosystem, with almost 90% market share by volume and open interest. This has allowed investors to express their market views on the global chip industry, AI, and digitalization. We introduced micro Taiwan futures to provide more precise and cost-efficient access for a broader range of participants and have since applied this approach for our Japan and Singapore benchmarks. To maintain this growth, we are accelerating product innovation and deepening our partnerships with global index providers.
Speaker #2: Anchoring substantial pools of liquidity as DAV grew 9% year-on-year in FY26. Our Taiwan futures contract is the most widely traded international futures tracking one of the world's most important technology ecosystems, with almost 90% market share by volume and open interest.
Speaker #2: This has allowed investors to express their market views on the global chip industry, AI, and digitalization. We introduced Micro Taiwan Futures to provide more precise and cost-efficient access for a broader range of participants, and have since applied this approach to our Japan and Singapore benchmarks.
Speaker #2: To maintain this growth, we are accelerating product innovation and deepening our partnerships with global index providers. This allows us to expand our product shelf in areas where we're seeing evolving customer demand and long-term opportunities.
Loh Boon Chye: This allows us to expand our product shelf in areas where we're seeing evolving customer demand and long-term opportunities. In FY26, we further expanded our partnership with FTSE by launching Asian government bond futures tracking FTSE's Asia Pacific Liquid Government Bond Index series, extending our derivatives offering into fixed income and providing clients with another way to manage Asian market exposure. By the end of this calendar year, through an enhanced licensing agreement with MSCI, we will introduce new contracts that span a wide range of global markets, sectors, and themes. Our long-standing relationship with S&P Global Platts has been instrumental in establishing globally recognized benchmark contracts across iron ore, coking coal, petrochemicals, and other energy products. Alongside these partnerships, we have leveraged capabilities within our own index business, iEdge, to launch crypto perpetual futures in FY26.
Loh Boon Chye: This allows us to expand our product shelf in areas where we're seeing evolving customer demand and long-term opportunities. In FY 2026, we further expanded our partnership with FTSE by launching Asian government bond futures tracking FTSE's Asia Pacific Liquid Government Bond Index series, extending our derivatives offering into fixed income and providing clients with another way to manage Asian market exposure. By the end of this calendar year, through an enhanced licensing agreement with MSCI, we will introduce new contracts that span a wide range of global markets, sectors, and themes. Our long-standing relationship with S&P Global Platts has been instrumental in establishing globally recognized benchmark contracts across iron ore, coking coal, petrochemicals, and other energy products. Alongside these partnerships, we have leveraged capabilities within our own index business, iEdge, to launch crypto perpetual futures in FY 2026.
Speaker #2: In FY26, we further expanded our partnership with FTSE by launching Asian government bond futures tracking FTSE's Asia Pacific Liquid Government Bond Index Series, extending our derivatives offering into fixed income and providing clients with another way to manage Asian market exposure.
Speaker #2: By the end of this calendar year, through an enhanced licensing agreement with MSCI, we will introduce new contracts that span a wide range of global markets, sectors, and themes.
Speaker #2: Our long-standing relationship with S&P Global Platts has been instrumental in establishing globally recognized benchmark contracts across iron ore, coal, petrochemicals, and other energy products.
Speaker #2: Alongside these partnerships, we have leveraged capabilities within our own index business, IH, to launch crypto perpetual futures in FY26. Our crypto perpetual futures are an example of how we are extending our relevance into new structures and asset classes by building adjacent ecosystems around franchises where we already have strong market positions.
Loh Boon Chye: Our crypto perpetual futures are an example of how we are extending our relevance into new structures and asset classes by building adjacent ecosystem around franchises where we already have strong market positions. Looking ahead into FY27, gold is another natural adjacency for our commodities franchise. We're building a more comprehensive ecosystem with the industry and MAS to build the OTC gold market and a deliverable futures contract, providing clients with more ways to access and manage gold exposure while developing Singapore as a leading gold hub. In PERA, we're seeing opportunities to expand cross-asset participation. Our multi-asset platform enables clients to manage their risk and investment needs more holistically. By leveraging our insights and connectivity across our platforms and markets, we can anticipate client needs and deliver more tailored solutions. As client engagement deepens, so too our relationships and ability to capture a greater wallet share.
Loh Boon Chye: Our crypto perpetual futures are an example of how we are extending our relevance into new structures and asset classes by building adjacent ecosystem around franchises where we already have strong market positions. Looking ahead into FY 2027, gold is another natural adjacency for our commodities franchise. We're building a more comprehensive ecosystem with the industry and MAS to build the OTC gold market and a deliverable futures contract, providing clients with more ways to access and manage gold exposure while developing Singapore as a leading gold hub. In PERA, we're seeing opportunities to expand cross-asset participation. Our multi-asset platform enables clients to manage their risk and investment needs more holistically. By leveraging our insights and connectivity across our platforms and markets, we can anticipate client needs and deliver more tailored solutions. As client engagement deepens, so too our relationships and ability to capture a greater wallet share.
Speaker #2: Looking ahead into FY27, the goal is another natural adjacency for our commodities franchise. We're building a more comprehensive ecosystem with the industry and MAS to build the OTC gold market and a deliverable futures contract, providing clients with more ways to access and manage gold exposure.
Speaker #2: While developing Singapore as a leading gold hub, in parallel, we're seeing opportunities to expand cross-asset participation. Our multi-asset platform enables clients to manage their risk and investment needs more holistically.
Speaker #2: By leveraging our insights and connectivity across our platforms and markets, we can anticipate client needs and deliver more tailored solutions. As client engagement deepens, so too do our relationships and our ability to capture a greater share of wallet.
Speaker #2: Let me now move on to SGX FX, where our client-centric approach is delivering strong results. SGX FX was the fastest-growing exchange-backed OTC FX platform in FY26, with average daily volume at US$190 billion—a 36% CAGR growth from FY23.
Loh Boon Chye: Let me now move on to SGX FX, where our client-centric approach is delivering strong results. SGX FX was the fastest-growing exchange-backed OTC FX platform in FY26, with average daily volume at $190 billion, a 36% CAGR growth from FY23. What is notable is the quality of this growth. We saw strong broad-based expansion in both bank and non-bank segments, with EMEA and the Americas driving fastest revenue growth. Going forward, we will elevate our client proposition by strengthening our competitive moats. First, we are enhancing the synergies between our OTC and listed FX franchises. This includes making it easier for clients to move between bilateral OTC execution and listed FX features through our exchange for related positions, or known as EFRPs, and enabling participants to transfer risks efficiently while reducing friction, lowering costs, and improving capital efficiency.
Loh Boon Chye: Let me now move on to SGX FX, where our client-centric approach is delivering strong results. SGX FX was the fastest-growing exchange-backed OTC FX platform in FY 2026, with average daily volume at $190 billion, a 36% CAGR growth from FY23. What is notable is the quality of this growth. We saw strong broad-based expansion in both bank and non-bank segments, with EMEA and the Americas driving fastest revenue growth. Going forward, we will elevate our client proposition by strengthening our competitive moats. First, we are enhancing the synergies between our OTC and listed FX franchises. This includes making it easier for clients to move between bilateral OTC execution and listed FX features through our exchange for related positions, or known as EFRPs, and enabling participants to transfer risks efficiently while reducing friction, lowering costs, and improving capital efficiency.
Speaker #2: What is notable is the quality of this growth. We saw strong, broad-based expansion in both bank and non-bank segments, with EMEA and the Americas driving the fastest revenue growth.
Speaker #2: Going forward, we will elevate our client proposition by strengthening our competitive modes. First, we are enhancing the synergies between our OTC and listed FX franchises.
Speaker #2: This includes making it easier for clients to move between bilateral OTC execution and listed FX futures through our exchange for related positions, known as EFRPs, and enabling participants to transfer risk efficiently while reducing friction, lowering costs, and improving capital efficiency.
Speaker #2: In addition, we are further expanding our client coverage, building on the strong traction in newer markets we have entered, such as the Middle East, Korea, and Brazil.
Loh Boon Chye: We will further expand our client coverage, building on the strong traction in newer markets we have entered, such as the Middle East, Korea, and Brazil. We are enriching our offerings in emerging market currencies, options capability, data, and API-based services. Together, these initiatives position SGX FX for continued growth as we meet clients' needs for greater connectivity, integrated workflows, and deeper liquidity. Our derivatives and FX businesses scale globally, we are equally focused on sustaining the momentum in our stock market. FY26 was an exceptional year for our stock market, marked by improving participation, liquidity, and trading activity. Securities daily average value, or SDAV, grew substantially across all investor and stock segments. Retail participation reached a five-year high, while institutional interest has broadened beyond the STI Index constituents. Small and mid-cap activity has strengthened with institutional inflows into this segment growing three times.
Loh Boon Chye: We will further expand our client coverage, building on the strong traction in newer markets we have entered, such as the Middle East, Korea, and Brazil. We are enriching our offerings in emerging market currencies, options capability, data, and API-based services. Together, these initiatives position SGX FX for continued growth as we meet clients' needs for greater connectivity, integrated workflows, and deeper liquidity. Our derivatives and FX businesses scale globally, we are equally focused on sustaining the momentum in our stock market. FY 2026 was an exceptional year for our stock market, marked by improving participation, liquidity, and trading activity. Securities daily average value, or SDAV, grew substantially across all investor and stock segments. Retail participation reached a five-year high, while institutional interest has broadened beyond the STI Index constituents. Small and mid-cap activity has strengthened with institutional inflows into this segment growing three times.
Speaker #2: Finally, we are enriching our offerings in emerging market currencies, options capability data, and API-based services. Together, these initiatives position SGX FX for continued growth, as we meet clients' needs for greater connectivity, integrated workflows, and deeper liquidity.
Speaker #2: While our derivatives and FX businesses scale globally, we are equally focused on sustaining the momentum in our stock market. FY26 was an exceptional year for our stock market, marked by improving participation, liquidity, and trading activity.
Speaker #2: Securities daily average value, or SDAV, grew substantially across all investor and stock segments. Retail participation reached a five-year high, while institutional interest has broadened beyond the STI index constituents.
Speaker #2: Small- and mid-cap activity has strengthened, with institutional inflows into this segment growing three times. This reflects the combined impact of better research coverage, stronger issuer engagement, and growing investor attention.
Loh Boon Chye: This reflects the combined impact of better research coverage, stronger issuer engagement, and growing investor attention. The IPO pipeline is strong. We welcome 21 new listings in FY26. In our pipeline, we see interest from diverse sectors, including digital infrastructure, healthcare and consumer, real estate services, and REITs. The stronger institutional participation in IPOs, including support from EQDP fund managers and long-only investors. With our value unlock movement and other initiatives to grow demand and supply, we continue to work with the ecosystem to drive sustainable liquidity, while also expanding the ways investors can access opportunities through SGX. Initiatives such as the Global Listing Board, cross-listing of ETFs, and SDR expansion to include US-listed stocks further enhance SGX connectivity with global and regional markets. These efforts are mutually reinforcing.
Loh Boon Chye: This reflects the combined impact of better research coverage, stronger issuer engagement, and growing investor attention. The IPO pipeline is strong. We welcome 21 new listings in FY 2026. In our pipeline, we see interest from diverse sectors, including digital infrastructure, healthcare and consumer, real estate services, and REITs. The stronger institutional participation in IPOs, including support from EQDP fund managers and long-only investors. With our value unlock movement and other initiatives to grow demand and supply, we continue to work with the ecosystem to drive sustainable liquidity, while also expanding the ways investors can access opportunities through SGX. Initiatives such as the Global Listing Board, cross-listing of ETFs, and SDR expansion to include US-listed stocks further enhance SGX connectivity with global and regional markets. These efforts are mutually reinforcing.
Speaker #2: On the issuer side, the IPO pipeline is strong. We welcome 21 new listings in FY26. In our pipeline, we see interest from diverse sectors, including digital infrastructure, healthcare and consumer, real estate services, and REITs.
Speaker #2: What is encouraging is the stronger institutional participation in IPOs, including support from EQDP fund managers and long-only investors. Together, we have the Value Unlocked movement and other initiatives to grow demand and supply.
Speaker #2: We continue to work with the ecosystem to drive sustainable liquidity. We are also expanding the ways investors can access opportunities through SGX. Initiatives such as the global listing board, cross-listing of ETFs, and SDR expansion to include US-listed stocks further enhance SGX's connectivity with global and regional markets.
Speaker #2: These efforts are mutually reinforcing. Greater participation improves liquidity, which attracts higher-quality listings, reinforces investors' confidence, and, in turn, drives deeper market engagement and creates a virtuous cycle.
Loh Boon Chye: Greater participation improves liquidity, which attracts higher-quality listings, reinforces investors' confidence, and in turn, drives deeper market engagement and creates a virtuous cycle. We're committed to creating a more vibrant and connected stock market that reinforces Singapore's position as a leading capital markets hub. Progress in our stock market, together with the momentum across derivatives, FX, and commodities, reflect the broader SGX story. We have significantly transformed the composition of our business. Our overall operating revenue base has nearly doubled, growing from just over SGD 800 million in FY16 to more than SGD 1.5 billion in FY26. This growth is driven by multiple businesses across the group. Our strong performance provides a solid foundation to capture the next phase of growth. We will continue to innovate around franchises where we already have liquidity and leadership, creating new ways for clients to access markets, manage risks, and deploy capital.
Loh Boon Chye: Greater participation improves liquidity, which attracts higher-quality listings, reinforces investors' confidence, and in turn, drives deeper market engagement and creates a virtuous cycle. We're committed to creating a more vibrant and connected stock market that reinforces Singapore's position as a leading capital markets hub. Progress in our stock market, together with the momentum across derivatives, FX, and commodities, reflect the broader SGX story. We have significantly transformed the composition of our business. Our overall operating revenue base has nearly doubled, growing from just over SGD 800 million in FY16 to more than SGD 1.5 billion in FY 2026. This growth is driven by multiple businesses across the group. Our strong performance provides a solid foundation to capture the next phase of growth. We will continue to innovate around franchises where we already have liquidity and leadership, creating new ways for clients to access markets, manage risks, and deploy capital.
Speaker #2: We're committed to creating a more vibrant and connected stock market that reinforces Singapore's position as a leading capital markets hub. The progress in our stock market, together with the momentum across derivatives, FX, and commodities, reflects the broader SGX story.
Speaker #2: We have significantly transformed the composition of our business. Our overall operating revenue base has nearly doubled, growing from just over $800 million in FY16 to more than $1.5 billion.
Speaker #2: In FY26, importantly, this growth is driven by multiple businesses across the group. Our strong performance provides a solid foundation to capture the next phase of growth.
Speaker #2: First, we will continue to innovate around franchises where we already have liquidity and leadership, creating new ways for clients to access markets, manage risk, and deploy capital.
Speaker #2: Second, the scale of our franchises gives us a strategic view of how capital, risk, and liquidity move across the market. As clients increasingly invest across asset classes, we will harness the data we have to secure a larger share of our clients' trading portfolios.
Loh Boon Chye: Second, the scale of our franchises gives us a strategic view of how capital risk and liquidity move across markets. As clients increasingly invest across asset classes, we will harness the data we have to secure a larger share of our clients' trading portfolios. Alongside this, we are focused on executing the stock market initiatives that are underway. In close collaboration with market participants, we will work on translating the momentum in our stock market into enduring and sustainable liquidity. Finally, we will enhance our enterprise capabilities by investing in technology, data, and automation, including AI. This will enable operational efficiency, strengthen decision-making, and build a more agile, future-ready SGX. At the same time, we are also investing in product innovation and platform monetization, as mentioned by Daniel earlier. FY 2026 was another year of growth for SGX Group.
Loh Boon Chye: Second, the scale of our franchises gives us a strategic view of how capital risk and liquidity move across markets. As clients increasingly invest across asset classes, we will harness the data we have to secure a larger share of our clients' trading portfolios. Alongside this, we are focused on executing the stock market initiatives that are underway. In close collaboration with market participants, we will work on translating the momentum in our stock market into enduring and sustainable liquidity. Finally, we will enhance our enterprise capabilities by investing in technology, data, and automation, including AI. This will enable operational efficiency, strengthen decision-making, and build a more agile, future-ready SGX. At the same time, we are also investing in product innovation and platform monetization, as mentioned by Daniel earlier. FY 2026 was another year of growth for SGX Group.
Speaker #2: Alongside this, we are focused on executing the stock market initiatives that are underway. In close collaboration with market participants, we will work on translating the momentum in our stock market into enduring and sustainable liquidity.
Speaker #2: Finally, we will enhance our enterprise capabilities by investing in technology, data, and automation, including AI. This will enable operational efficiency, strengthen decision-making, and build a more agile, future-ready SGX.
Speaker #2: At the same time, we are also investing in product innovation and platform modernization, as mentioned by Daniel earlier. FY2026 was another year of growth for SGX Group.
Speaker #2: Notwithstanding market conditions, we are confident that with focus and consistent execution, we will capture the opportunities ahead of us. Thank you for your attention.
Loh Boon Chye: Notwithstanding market conditions, we are confident that with focus and consistent execution, we will capture the opportunities ahead of us. Thank you for your attention, and I invite my colleagues and I to take question now. Yeah, Nick, you can have the first question.
Loh Boon Chye: Notwithstanding market conditions, we are confident that with focus and consistent execution, we will capture the opportunities ahead of us. Thank you for your attention, and I invite my colleagues and I to take question now. Yeah, Nick, you can have the first question.
Speaker #2: I invite my colleagues and me to take questions now.
Speaker #1: Yeah, Nick, you can have the first question.
Speaker #3: Thanks very much, and congratulations on a very strong set of numbers. Can I talk a little bit about costs? Because you've obviously signaled in this presentation huge opportunities ahead on the revenue side, and obviously, therefore, there's a need to invest.
Nick Sawyer: Thanks very much. Congratulations on a very strong set of numbers. Can I talk a little bit about costs? You've obviously signaled in this presentation huge opportunities ahead on the revenue side, and obviously, therefore, there's a need to invest. I wonder if we could do two things. First of all, can you talk a little bit about the process that you and Daniel go through when you're giving this money to people? You obviously want a return. Could you talk about how that works and what sort of return you're looking for on the additional spend, and how you're going to measure people and make sure that return comes through? I guess the second thing is that a lot of this is about technology and investing in technology.
[Analyst 1]: Thanks very much. Congratulations on a very strong set of numbers. Can I talk a little bit about costs? You've obviously signaled in this presentation huge opportunities ahead on the revenue side, and obviously, therefore, there's a need to invest. I wonder if we could do two things. First of all, can you talk a little bit about the process that you and Daniel go through when you're giving this money to people? You obviously want a return. Could you talk about how that works and what sort of return you're looking for on the additional spend, and how you're going to measure people and make sure that return comes through? I guess the second thing is that a lot of this is about technology and investing in technology.
Speaker #3: So I wonder if we could do two things. First of all, can you talk a little bit about the process that you and Daniel go through when you're giving this money to people?
Speaker #3: You obviously want a return, so could you talk about how that works, and what sort of return you're looking for on the additional spend, and how you're going to measure people and make sure that return comes through?
Speaker #3: And then I guess the second thing is that a lot of this is about technology and investing in technology. I get that there's also investing in people and products and things like that.
Nick Sawyer: I get there's also investing in people and products and things like that. You've got a new CTO. I wonder if you could talk a little bit about some of the technological changes that are happening in the exchange's world, and what you need to do and what you're doing to sort of meet those challenges.
[Analyst 1]: I get there's also investing in people and products and things like that. You've got a new CTO. I wonder if you could talk a little bit about some of the technological changes that are happening in the exchange's world, and what you need to do and what you're doing to sort of meet those challenges.
Speaker #3: And you've got a new CTO, so I wonder if you could talk a little bit about some of the technological changes that are happening in the exchange world, and what you need to do and what you're doing to sort of meet those challenges.
Speaker #2: Oh, thank you for the question, Nick. First, I think in the last two years we've mentioned in briefings that the cost base was lower. I think there are two considerations: one, in the timing of hiring of additional staff.
Loh Boon Chye: Thank you for the question, Nick. First, I think in the last two years, as we've mentioned in briefings, the cost base was lower, I think on two considerations. One, in the timing of hiring of additional staff, and then two, in terms of the full year impact. That's clearly not sustainable. I think more importantly is our increased focus to be agile and nimble, to react to increasingly client needs, and thereby we'll continue not just to invest in capabilities in people, but also in technology upgrade, which then relates to your second question. In the world where AI is evolving and changing client needs, and the environment we are faced with, the ability and agility to bring an idea from conception to eventual product probably has to shrink quite a bit.
Loh Boon Chye: Thank you for the question, Nick. First, I think in the last two years, as we've mentioned in briefings, the cost base was lower, I think on two considerations. One, in the timing of hiring of additional staff, and then two, in terms of the full year impact. That's clearly not sustainable. I think more importantly is our increased focus to be agile and nimble, to react to increasingly client needs, and thereby we'll continue not just to invest in capabilities in people, but also in technology upgrade, which then relates to your second question. In the world where AI is evolving and changing client needs, and the environment we are faced with, the ability and agility to bring an idea from conception to eventual product probably has to shrink quite a bit.
Speaker #2: And then the two, in terms of the full-year impact. That's clearly not sustainable. But I think, more importantly, is our increased focus to be agile and nimble to react to increasing client needs. And thereby, we'll continue not just to invest in capabilities and people, but also in technology upgrades, which then relates to your second question.
Speaker #2: In a world where AI is evolving, and client needs and the environment are constantly changing, the ability and agility to bring an idea from conception to eventual product probably has to shrink quite a bit.
Speaker #2: And in that, the tech development clearly has to shift towards more of a product-led approach, enabled by engineering capabilities. And that's what we are looking at and will do in the next two to three years.
Loh Boon Chye: In that, the tech development clearly has to shift towards more of a product lab enabled by engineering capabilities, and that's what we are looking, and will do in the next two to three years. We're starting not just right now, but in the last few months. Given the structural shifts that we're seeing in various markets, we are confident that these are investments well made. Importantly, I hope we have also demonstrated, as a group, as a team, a continued disciplined focus on cost, very consistent execution, and then very targeted focus to capture the opportunities that we see. I hope that answer your question. Okay, Jayden, and then one in front, later on.
Loh Boon Chye: In that, the tech development clearly has to shift towards more of a product lab enabled by engineering capabilities, and that's what we are looking, and will do in the next two to three years. We're starting not just right now, but in the last few months. Given the structural shifts that we're seeing in various markets, we are confident that these are investments well made. Importantly, I hope we have also demonstrated, as a group, as a team, a continued disciplined focus on cost, very consistent execution, and then very targeted focus to capture the opportunities that we see. I hope that answer your question. Okay, Jayden, and then one in front, later on.
Speaker #2: And we're starting not just right now, but in the last few months. Given the structural shifts that we're seeing in various markets, we're confident that these are investments well made.
Speaker #2: But importantly, I hope we have also demonstrated, as a group and as a team, a continued disciplined focus on cost, very consistent execution, and then a very targeted focus to capture the opportunities that we see.
Speaker #2: I hope that answers your question. Okay, Jayden, and then one in front later on.
Speaker #3: Thank you. Just a couple of questions on the equity derivatives piece. First of all, I think that there was 6% growth in the volume, but the clearing fee declined.
Jayden Vantarakis: Thank you. Just a couple of questions on the equity derivatives piece. First of all, I think there was 6% growth in the volume, the clearing fee declined, the revenue was comparable. Do you want to sort of talk if there was anything that was one-off and if we should expect that to recover? Maybe some more color on that. Then my second question, sort of in the same business line, I think you mentioned during the presentation, Boon Chye, that there'll be a new suite of products with MSCI. I remember years ago there was a partnership and then there was some changes, so it'd be really good to understand how that partnership might take place and what we should expect. Thanks.
[Analyst 2]: Thank you. Just a couple of questions on the equity derivatives piece. First of all, I think there was 6% growth in the volume, the clearing fee declined, the revenue was comparable. Do you want to sort of talk if there was anything that was one-off and if we should expect that to recover? Maybe some more color on that. Then my second question, sort of in the same business line, I think you mentioned during the presentation, Boon Chye, that there'll be a new suite of products with MSCI. I remember years ago there was a partnership and then there was some changes, so it'd be really good to understand how that partnership might take place and what we should expect. Thanks.
Speaker #3: So the revenue was comparable. Do you want to talk about whether there was anything that was one-off, and if we should expect that to recover?
Speaker #3: Maybe some more color on that. And then my second question, sort of in the same business line—I think you mentioned during the presentation, Boon Chai, that there will be a new suite of products with MSCI.
Speaker #3: I remember years ago, there was a partnership, and then there were some changes. So, it would be really good to understand how that partnership might take place and what we should expect.
Speaker #3: Thanks.
Loh Boon Chye: You might do the first one.
Loh Boon Chye: You might do the first one.
Daniel Koh: Yeah. Part of it is just US dollars versus reported currency in Singapore dollars, part of it is just the customer mix. In the environment with equity derivatives, we had a larger mix of customers who were on volumetrics, and that accounted for it. Typically, when you look through cycle, this doesn't sustain like that because markets tend to settle, go through air pockets. Apart from the FX, we're pretty relaxed about the mix.
Daniel Koh: Yeah. Part of it is just US dollars versus reported currency in Singapore dollars, part of it is just the customer mix. In the environment with equity derivatives, we had a larger mix of customers who were on volumetrics, and that accounted for it. Typically, when you look through cycle, this doesn't sustain like that because markets tend to settle, go through air pockets. Apart from the FX, we're pretty relaxed about the mix.
Speaker #4: Yeah. So part of it is just dollars versus reported currency in sync, and part of it is just the customer mix. In the environment with equity derivatives, we had a larger mix of customers who were on volumetrics, and that accounted for it.
Speaker #4: And typically, when you look through the cycle, this doesn’t sustain like that, because markets tend to settle through air pockets. So, apart from the FX, we’re pretty relaxed about the mix.
Speaker #2: Jayden, to your second question: First, we're very focused on global partnerships with index providers. So it's not just MSCI, it's FTSE Russell and S&P Global Platts.
Loh Boon Chye: Jayden, to your second question. First, we're very focused on global partnerships with the index provider. It's not just MSCI, it's FTSE Russell and S&P Global Platts. To answer your question, as I also mentioned, increasingly with the environment that we're faced with, clients no longer just manage risks in siloed or concentrated regional portfolio. Requirements has broadened. To Nick's earlier question, we also need to think about from a product
Loh Boon Chye: Jayden, to your second question. First, we're very focused on global partnerships with the index provider. It's not just MSCI, it's FTSE Russell and S&P Global Platts. To answer your question, as I also mentioned, increasingly with the environment that we're faced with, clients no longer just manage risks in siloed or concentrated regional portfolio. Requirements has broadened. To Nick's earlier question, we also need to think about from a product
Speaker #2: But to answer the question, as I also mentioned, increasingly with the environment I'm faced with, clients no longer just manage risk in siloed or concentrated regional portfolios.
Speaker #2: Requirements have broadened. And to Nick's earlier question, we also need to think about shortening the process from product ideation to execution and launch.
Loh Boon Chye: product ideation through execution and launching definitely has to shorten. Part of the MSCI suite of indices or contracts that were launched by the end of this calendar year is to stretch in cases beyond Asia, be across market, across countries, and then within Asia, be across thematics, across sectors. Increasingly, that's what investors expect. We want to clearly be the leader for all access into Asian economies and markets, I think we're going to build adjacency from our strength.
Loh Boon Chye: product ideation through execution and launching definitely has to shorten. Part of the MSCI suite of indices or contracts that were launched by the end of this calendar year is to stretch in cases beyond Asia, be across market, across countries, and then within Asia, be across thematics, across sectors. Increasingly, that's what investors expect. We want to clearly be the leader for all access into Asian economies and markets, I think we're going to build adjacency from our strength.
Speaker #2: And part of the MSCI suite of indices or contracts that were launched by the end of this calendar year is to stretch, in cases, beyond Asia—so to be across markets, across countries.
Speaker #2: And then, within Asia, be across thematics, across sectors, because increasingly that's what investors expect. We want to clearly be the leader for all access into Asian economies and markets.
Speaker #2: But I think we're going to build adjacency from our strength.
Speaker #3: Thank you so much.
Liana Chue: Thank you so much. I think we have one question in front. Yeah, right. Second row.
Loh Boon Chye: Thank you so much. I think we have one question in front. Yeah, right. Second row.
Speaker #2: I think we have one question in front. Yes, right here in the second row.
Speaker #1: Hi, thank you. I'm Felicia from The Edge Singapore. Congratulations on the results. I have a few questions, sorry. So the first one is: Do you have any updates on the third tranche of EQTP fund managers?
Felicia Tan: Hi, thank you. I'm Felicia from The Edge Singapore. Congrats on the results. I have a few questions. Sorry. The first one is, do you guys have any updates on the third tranche of EQDP fund managers? The third tranche should be coming up. Do you want me to take them one by one, or you want me to ask all at once?
[Analyst] (The Edge Singapore): Hi, thank you. I'm Felicia from The Edge Singapore. Congrats on the results. I have a few questions. Sorry. The first one is, do you guys have any updates on the third tranche of EQDP fund managers? The third tranche should be coming up. Do you want me to take them one by one, or you want me to ask all at once?
Speaker #1: Because the third tranche will be coming up. Do you want me to take them one by one, or do you want me to ask all at once?
Speaker #3: I think we should go one by one so that we don't lose track.
Liana Chue: I think one by one so that we don't lose track.
Loh Boon Chye: I think one by one so that we don't lose track.
Speaker #1: Okay, thank you.
Felicia Tan: Okay, thank you.
[Analyst] (The Edge Singapore): Okay, thank you.
Speaker #3: Oh, I think MES has indicated, I believe, Q3, so we are eagerly awaiting the announcement.
Loh Boon Chye: I think MAS has indicated, I believe Q3, we are eagerly awaiting the announcement.
Loh Boon Chye: I think MAS has indicated, I believe Q3, we are eagerly awaiting the announcement.
Speaker #1: Okay. And the second question is, do you have any updates on the pipeline for the global listing board?
Felicia Tan: Okay. The second question is, do you all have any updates on the pipeline for the Global Listing Board?
[Analyst] (The Edge Singapore): Okay. The second question is, do you all have any updates on the pipeline for the Global Listing Board?
Speaker #3: So, Global Listing Board, of course, is live now, fully operational and ready. A number of companies have started preparations towards listing on the GLB.
[Company Representative] (SGX Group): Global Listing Board, of course, is live now, fully operationally ready. A number of companies have started preparations towards the listing on the GLB. We would hope that that translates into actual listings in the next while, let's say in the remainder of this year. Of course, timing around these things is always tricky. There's a lot of factors that play into that, market circumstances and other factors. That's what I would say. We are generally very encouraged by the type of discussions that we're having with candidate issuers for the GLB.
Loh Boon Chye: Global Listing Board, of course, is live now, fully operationally ready. A number of companies have started preparations towards the listing on the GLB. We would hope that that translates into actual listings in the next while, let's say in the remainder of this year. Of course, timing around these things is always tricky. There's a lot of factors that play into that, market circumstances and other factors. That's what I would say. We are generally very encouraged by the type of discussions that we're having with candidate issuers for the GLB.
Speaker #3: We would hope that that translates into actual listings in the next while—let's say, in the remainder of this year. But, of course, timing around these things is always tricky.
Speaker #3: There are a lot of factors that play into that—market circumstances and other factors. So that's what I would say. We are generally very encouraged by the type of discussions that we're having with candidate issuers for the GLB.
Speaker #1: I'm sorry, just to follow up—do you have a sense of the sectors? Are you able to share?
Felicia Tan: I'm sorry, just to follow up, do you have a sense of the sectors are you able to share?
[Analyst] (The Edge Singapore): I'm sorry, just to follow up, do you have a sense of the sectors are you able to share?
Speaker #3: Yeah, naturally, because this is, of course, a link together with Nasdaq, the goal is for this board to attract more high-growth companies. And that is also reflected in the types of discussions we are having with companies that are interested in this.
[Company Representative] (SGX Group): Yeah. Naturally, because this is, of course, a link together with Nasdaq. The goal is for this board to attract more higher growth companies, and that is also reflected in the types of discussions that we are having with companies that are interested in this.
Loh Boon Chye: Yeah. Naturally, because this is, of course, a link together with Nasdaq. The goal is for this board to attract more higher growth companies, and that is also reflected in the types of discussions that we are having with companies that are interested in this.
Speaker #1: Okay, sorry. I'll do what I promised. The third question is: So Singapore—we have welcomed IPOs this year, obviously, so far. But do you have any thoughts on the post-IPO performances so far?
Felicia Tan: Sorry, two more, I promise. The third one is, so Singapore, we have welcomed IPOs this year, obviously, so far. Do you have any thoughts on the post-IPO performances so far? Because there's a mixed bag.
[Analyst] (The Edge Singapore): Sorry, two more, I promise. The third one is, so Singapore, we have welcomed IPOs this year, obviously, so far. Do you have any thoughts on the post-IPO performances so far? Because there's a mixed bag.
Speaker #1: Because there's a mixed bag.
Speaker #3: Yeah, so we are in a phase of rebuilding our market and growing market confidence. Data points do tend to be amplified—both good and bad data points.
Loh Boon Chye: Yeah. We are in a phase of rebuilding our market, growing market confidence. Data points do tend to be amplified, good and bad data points. I think that's the first point I want to make. Second, I think the feedback from the market participants, including issuers, clearly indicates that the day one performance is not the only thing that they look at. It's about the post-market structural liquidity, the level of investor participation, research coverage. This is where the GEMS research program, Value Unlock, and so on, programs are designed to deliver. The third thing is, I think some things do get conflated when these things happen. The quality of the companies that come online or list versus the price discovery process, which is the IPO.
Loh Boon Chye: Yeah. We are in a phase of rebuilding our market, growing market confidence. Data points do tend to be amplified, good and bad data points. I think that's the first point I want to make. Second, I think the feedback from the market participants, including issuers, clearly indicates that the day one performance is not the only thing that they look at. It's about the post-market structural liquidity, the level of investor participation, research coverage. This is where the GEMS research program, Value Unlock, and so on, programs are designed to deliver. The third thing is, I think some things do get conflated when these things happen. The quality of the companies that come online or list versus the price discovery process, which is the IPO.
Speaker #3: But I think that's the first point I want to make. Second, I think the feedback from the market participants, including issuers, clearly indicates that day-one performance is not the only thing that they look at.
Speaker #3: It's about the post-market structural liquidity, the level of investor participation, research coverage, and this is where the GEMS research program, value unlock, and so on—these programs are designed to deliver.
Speaker #3: The third thing is, I think some things do get conflated when these things happen. So the quality of the companies that come online or list versus the price discovery process, which is the IPO—I think when we look at the 2021 companies that have listed, I think by and large we can say that these are companies that we welcome to SGX.
Loh Boon Chye: I think when we look at the 21 companies that have listed, I think by and large, we can say that these are companies that we welcome to SGX. It comes down to the price discovery process, which is IPO, and then you have it on day one. There's always been feedback on things, whether we can tweak and improve things. I think there are things around information that can be made available, whether it's sooner. I know SGX RegCo or Boon Jean has made changes to allow preliminary prospectus to be made available to retail much earlier. Can we think about providing research earlier on in the process or immediately post-IPO? These are the things we think about. These are tweaks.
Loh Boon Chye: I think when we look at the 21 companies that have listed, I think by and large, we can say that these are companies that we welcome to SGX. It comes down to the price discovery process, which is IPO, and then you have it on day one. There's always been feedback on things, whether we can tweak and improve things. I think there are things around information that can be made available, whether it's sooner. I know SGX RegCo or Boon Jean has made changes to allow preliminary prospectus to be made available to retail much earlier. Can we think about providing research earlier on in the process or immediately post-IPO? These are the things we think about. These are tweaks.
Speaker #3: So then it comes down to the price discovery process, which is the IPO, and then you have it on day one. There has always been feedback on things—whether we can tweak and improve things.
Speaker #3: I think there are things around information that can be made available, whether it's sooner so I know Redco or Boon Jin is going to make changes to allow preliminary prospectuses to be made available to retail much earlier.
Speaker #3: Can we think about providing research earlier on in the process, or immediately post-IPO? So these are the things we think about. These are tweaks—if we can make more information available and can engage a wider public, a wider investing group of participants—then I think that's helpful to the price discovery process.
Loh Boon Chye: If we can make more information available and can engage a wider public, a wider investing group of participants, then I think that's helpful to the price discovery process.
Loh Boon Chye: If we can make more information available and can engage a wider public, a wider investing group of participants, then I think that's helpful to the price discovery process.
Speaker #1: Okay, thank you.
Felicia Tan: Okay. Thank you, sir.
[Analyst] (The Edge Singapore): Okay. Thank you, sir.
Speaker #2: Yeah, maybe one last one. I think next to you, this one.
Liana Chue: Yeah. Maybe one last one, and I think next to you, there's one.
Daniel Koh: Yeah. Maybe one last one, and I think next to you, there's one.
Speaker #1: Yeah.
Felicia Tan: Yeah.
[Analyst] (The Edge Singapore): Yeah.
Speaker #2: Yeah. It will take some time online.
Liana Chue: Yeah. Then we'll take some online.
Daniel Koh: Yeah. Then we'll take some online.
Speaker #1: And do you have more color on the field of scientific data? Sorry, that was a very short release on July 8th announcing the sale.
Felicia Tan: Do you have more color on the sale of Scientific Beta? Sorry, because there was a very short release on 8 July announcing the sale, but do you all have any color on it? Was there a particular moment of realization that led to the sale?
[Analyst] (The Edge Singapore): Do you have more color on the sale of Scientific Beta? Sorry, because there was a very short release on 8 July announcing the sale, but do you all have any color on it? Was there a particular moment of realization that led to the sale?
Speaker #1: But do you all have any color on it? Was there a particular moment of realization that led to the sale?
Speaker #2: Yeah, so when we first invested in Scientific Beta, or for any investment, it was really to grow our adjacency or deepen our moat. Scientific Beta is a very research-focused index provider.
Loh Boon Chye: Yeah. When we invested first in Scientific Beta, or for any investment, is to really to grow our adjacency or deepen our moat. Scientific Beta is a very research-focused index provider. Over the months that we have, we have realized that the very research-focused, high-quality factor indices reaches only a certain segment of customers, where SGX has a broader set of customers. Given our very focus on growing our platforms across different asset classes and focus on capital allocation, we decided that Scientific Beta, with the new owner, which is also essentially an index company, would allow Scientific Beta to continue in their journey on research-based businesses and grow. Yes.
Loh Boon Chye: Yeah. When we invested first in Scientific Beta, or for any investment, is to really to grow our adjacency or deepen our moat. Scientific Beta is a very research-focused index provider. Over the months that we have, we have realized that the very research-focused, high-quality factor indices reaches only a certain segment of customers, where SGX has a broader set of customers. Given our very focus on growing our platforms across different asset classes and focus on capital allocation, we decided that Scientific Beta, with the new owner, which is also essentially an index company, would allow Scientific Beta to continue in their journey on research-based businesses and grow. Yes.
Speaker #2: And over the months that we have, we have realized that the very research-focused, high-quality factor indices reach only a certain segment of customers, whereas SGX has a broader set of customers.
Speaker #2: And given our focus on growing our platforms across different asset classes, and a focus on capital allocation, we decided that Scientific Beta, with the new owner—which is also essentially an index company—would allow Scientific Beta to continue on their journey with research-based factor indices and growth.
Speaker #2: Yes.
[Analyst]: Hi. To follow on her questions there, do you think that this post-IPO mixed bag performance, will that affect investor sentiments or the companies' listings sentiments? Also, could you share a bit more about the pipelines of companies of IPOs for H2 of the year?
[Analyst 3]: Hi. To follow on her questions there, do you think that this post-IPO mixed bag performance, will that affect investor sentiments or the companies' listings sentiments? Also, could you share a bit more about the pipelines of companies of IPOs for H2 of the year?
Speaker #3: Hi, Bulian from Sabah. Just to follow up on that question: do you think that this post-IPO mixed-bag performance will affect investors' sentiment or companies' listing sentiment?
Speaker #3: And then also, could you share a bit more about the pipeline of companies for IPOs in the second half of the year?
Speaker #2: Maybe share the sectors.
Loh Boon Chye: Maybe share the sectors.
Loh Boon Chye: Maybe share the sectors.
Speaker #3: Maybe I'll take the second question, and it's somewhat linked to your first question. Certainly, from an issuer perspective, we see that companies are still very much engaged when it comes to their listing plans.
[Company Representative] (SGX Group): Maybe I'll take the second question. It's somewhat linked to your first question. Certainly, from an issuer perspective, we see that companies are still very much engaged when it comes to their listing plan. We haven't really seen an impact. In fact, the pipeline keeps growing. We've got about 50 companies now that are at various stages of engagement and preparation. That has grown from where we were at this point last year. That's very encouraging.
[Company Representative] (SGX Group): Maybe I'll take the second question. It's somewhat linked to your first question. Certainly, from an issuer perspective, we see that companies are still very much engaged when it comes to their listing plan. We haven't really seen an impact. In fact, the pipeline keeps growing. We've got about 50 companies now that are at various stages of engagement and preparation. That has grown from where we were at this point last year. That's very encouraging.
Speaker #3: So we haven't really seen an impact. In fact, the pipeline keeps growing. We've got about 50 companies now that are at various stages of engagement and preparation.
Speaker #3: So that has grown from where we were at this point last year. That's very encouraging.
Speaker #2: 5-0.
Daniel Koh: Five, zero?
Daniel Koh: Five, zero?
Speaker #3: 5-0, yes. Yeah, not 15, no. 5-0. The other encouraging thing around this is the greater diversity that we're seeing. So Boon Chai mentioned a couple of the sectors there.
[Company Representative] (SGX Group): Five, zero. Yes. Yeah, not 15, no. It's five, zero. The other encouraging thing around this is the greater diversity that we are seeing. Boon Chye mentioned a couple of the sectors there. To give you a bit more context, we now, within the pipeline, by number of companies, we see about a third of them in the consumer and healthcare sectors. About another third are in tech, advanced manufacturing, and digital infrastructure. That's certainly a part of the market that is growing for us. A quarter is in real estate, of course, a market in which we've built a very strong track record and still continue to see deals happen there. The rest is fairly balanced across other sectors.
[Company Representative] (SGX Group): Five, zero. Yes. Yeah, not 15, no. It's five, zero. The other encouraging thing around this is the greater diversity that we are seeing. Boon Chye mentioned a couple of the sectors there. To give you a bit more context, we now, within the pipeline, by number of companies, we see about a third of them in the consumer and healthcare sectors. About another third are in tech, advanced manufacturing, and digital infrastructure. That's certainly a part of the market that is growing for us. A quarter is in real estate, of course, a market in which we've built a very strong track record and still continue to see deals happen there. The rest is fairly balanced across other sectors.
Speaker #3: To give you a bit more context, we now, within the pipeline, by number of companies, see about a third of them in the consumer and healthcare sectors.
Speaker #3: About another third are in tech, advanced manufacturing, and digital infrastructure. So that's certainly a part of the market that is growing for us. And then a quarter is in real estate—of course, a market in which we've built a very strong track record, and we still continue to see deals happen there.
Speaker #3: And then the rest is fairly balanced across other sectors.
Speaker #2: So, I'll come back to the point that issuers take into account the range of data points that they get. So, it's not just about day-one performance.
Loh Boon Chye: I'll come back to the point that issuers take into account the range of data points that they get. It's not just about day 1 performance. I think it's about the entire ecosystem support and liquidity that they can get. I do think that in other respects, we do rank quite well in the other things that we are able to provide. It's not just one data point, but a more comprehensive set of data points that people tend to look at. Maybe take one or two questions from online.
Loh Boon Chye: I'll come back to the point that issuers take into account the range of data points that they get. It's not just about day 1 performance. I think it's about the entire ecosystem support and liquidity that they can get. I do think that in other respects, we do rank quite well in the other things that we are able to provide. It's not just one data point, but a more comprehensive set of data points that people tend to look at. Maybe take one or two questions from online.
Speaker #2: I think it's about the entire ecosystem support and liquidity that they can get. So I do think that, in other respects, we do rank quite well in the other things that we are able to provide.
Speaker #2: So it's not just one data point, but rather a more comprehensive set of data points that people tend to look at.
Speaker #3: Maybe take one or two questions from online.
Speaker #1: Yes. From Mizuho, Wheeler, first two questions. First question: Thank you, and it's encouraging to see the one-off additional dividend. Any views on the dividend per share going forward?
Liana Chue: Yes. From Mizuho, Wheeler. First two questions. First question, thank you, and it's encouraging to see the one-off additional dividend. Any views on the dividend per share going forward?
Liana Chue: Yes. From Mizuho, Wheeler. First two questions.
[Analyst 4]: First question, thank you, and it's encouraging to see the one-off additional dividend. Any views on the dividend per share going forward?
Speaker #2: Any views on the dividend per share? As we have guided for up to FY28, we are confident of delivering the quarter-sense share increase a quarter to FY28.
Loh Boon Chye: Any views on the dividend? As we have guided for up to FY28, we are confident of delivering the quarter cents a share increase a quarter to FY28. We are focused not only just on capital recycling, which is why we have a one-off additional dividend in FY26. We are also focused on growing and investing. We'll take that into considerations as we grow our business, noting that obviously the group overall is very cash flow generative.
Loh Boon Chye: Any views on the dividend? As we have guided for up to FY28, we are confident of delivering the quarter cents a share increase a quarter to FY28. We are focused not only just on capital recycling, which is why we have a one-off additional dividend in FY 2026. We are also focused on growing and investing. We'll take that into considerations as we grow our business, noting that obviously the group overall is very cash flow generative.
Speaker #2: We are focused not only on capital recycling, which is why we have a one-off additional dividend in FY26. We're also focused on growing and investing, and we'll take that into consideration as we grow our business, noting that obviously the group overall is very cash flow generative.
Speaker #1: Second question from Wheeler: Are there any new products or pipeline products in derivatives?
Liana Chue: Second question from Wheeler. Are there any new products or pipeline products in derivatives?
[Analyst 4]: Second question from Wheeler. Are there any new products or pipeline products in derivatives?
Speaker #3: I think Boon Chai has previewed quite a number of them. Clearly, one big expansion area is into interest rates. I think we all know and believe that not only risk-free interest rates, but sovereign and risky interest rates are going to be very important going forward.
Daniel Koh: I think Boon Chye has previewed quite a number of them. Clearly, one big expansion area is into interest rates. I think we all know and believe that not only risk-free interest rates, but sovereign and risky interest rates are going to be very important heading forward. We've launched 5 Asian government bond contracts. These are fairly unique. We hope to grow them. We're also getting quite significantly stuck into the Japanese interest rate market. We launched 20-year JGBs. We had a while ago launched short-term Japanese interest rates because Japan is back in a very large and idiosyncratic way. Even more than that, we're heading into a category of physical collateral and physically linked derivatives. It's not just a futures contract in gold.
Daniel Koh: I think Boon Chye has previewed quite a number of them. Clearly, one big expansion area is into interest rates. I think we all know and believe that not only risk-free interest rates, but sovereign and risky interest rates are going to be very important heading forward. We've launched 5 Asian government bond contracts. These are fairly unique. We hope to grow them. We're also getting quite significantly stuck into the Japanese interest rate market. We launched 20-year JGBs. We had a while ago launched short-term Japanese interest rates because Japan is back in a very large and idiosyncratic way. Even more than that, we're heading into a category of physical collateral and physically linked derivatives. It's not just a futures contract in gold.
Speaker #3: So, we've launched five Asian government bond contracts. These are fairly unique. We hope to grow them. We are also getting quite significantly stuck into the Japanese interest rate market.
Speaker #3: We launched 20-year JGBs. We had, a while ago, launched short-term Japanese interest rates. Because Japan is back in a very large and idiosyncratic way—even more than that—we're heading into a category of physical collateral and physically linked derivatives.
Speaker #3: So it's not just a futures contract in gold. We are helping MAS and the gold, the bullion ecosystem in Singapore, try to create a complete local Singapore ecosystem, which includes physical gold clearing, vaulting, as well as gold warrants and futures and derivatives.
Daniel Koh: We are helping MAS and the gold, the bullion ecosystem in Singapore, try to create a complete local Singapore ecosystem, which includes physical gold clearing, vaulting, as well as gold warrants, futures, and derivatives. It's a big lift. I think what we're trying to lean into isn't just saying, "Here's something interesting that we should list." It's actually thinking ahead to what are the monetary conditions or capital conditions for the customer base that we serve, it is very clear to us that even for very globalized things, there are going to be locational prices where once upon a time, only one price was needed.
Daniel Koh: We are helping MAS and the gold, the bullion ecosystem in Singapore, try to create a complete local Singapore ecosystem, which includes physical gold clearing, vaulting, as well as gold warrants, futures, and derivatives. It's a big lift. I think what we're trying to lean into isn't just saying, "Here's something interesting that we should list." It's actually thinking ahead to what are the monetary conditions or capital conditions for the customer base that we serve, it is very clear to us that even for very globalized things, there are going to be locational prices where once upon a time, only one price was needed.
Speaker #3: It's a big lift. I think what we're trying to lean into isn't just saying, "Here's something interesting that we should list." It's actually thinking ahead to what are the monetary conditions or capital conditions for the customer base that we serve. It is very clear to us that even for very globalized things, there are going to be locational prices, where once upon a time, only one price was needed.
Speaker #3: So we feel that we have a very strong right to play. When someone says, for certain locational things, maybe the Singapore price is valuable to us—and that could be the Singapore price in any number of things.
Daniel Koh: We feel that we have a very strong right to play when someone says, for certain locational things, maybe the Singapore price is valuable to us, and that could be the Singapore price in any number of things, and we're starting with gold. The final one was something we launched earlier, which is the perpetual futures contract. We put a lot of thought into that format. That's a brand-new format in listed derivatives.
Daniel Koh: We feel that we have a very strong right to play when someone says, for certain locational things, maybe the Singapore price is valuable to us, and that could be the Singapore price in any number of things, and we're starting with gold. The final one was something we launched earlier, which is the perpetual futures contract. We put a lot of thought into that format. That's a brand-new format in listed derivatives. I think we've seen in the recent news that even in the US, the regulators there are getting up to speed to whether how they regularize this. We already have them listed. We absolutely hope to expand that format with other things that benefit from being perpetual in nature.
Speaker #3: And we're starting with gold. And the final one was something we launched earlier, which is the perpetual futures contract. We put a lot of thought into that format.
Speaker #3: That's a brand new format in listed derivatives. And I think we've seen in the recent news that even in the US, the regulators there are getting up to speed on how they will regularize this.
Loh Boon Chye: I think we've seen in the recent news that even in the US, the regulators there are getting up to speed to whether how they regularize this. We already have them listed. We absolutely hope to expand that format with other things that benefit from being perpetual in nature.
Speaker #3: We already have them listed, and we absolutely hope to expand that format with other things that benefit from being perpetual in nature.
Loh Boon Chye: Maybe one more, then we come back.
Loh Boon Chye: Maybe one more, then we come back.
Speaker #2: Maybe one more, and then we come back.
Speaker #1: From Akash of UBS: One of the structural challenges that's widely known is that, with dual listings, there's hardly any liquidity on that. So, is there any transmission mechanism that gets us from a Nasdaq-anchored listing to liquidity in Singapore?
Liana Chue: From Aakash of UBS. One of the structural challenges that's widely known is that dual listings, there's hardly any liquidity on that. Any transmission mechanism that gets us from a Nasdaq-anchored listing to the liquidity in Singapore, could you elaborate on that?
Liana Chue: From Aakash of UBS.
[Analyst] (UBS): One of the structural challenges that's widely known is that dual listings, there's hardly any liquidity on that. Any transmission mechanism that gets us from a Nasdaq-anchored listing to the liquidity in Singapore, could you elaborate on that?
Speaker #1: Could you elaborate on that?
Loh Boon Chye: Thank you for the question. I think, the usual format for a dual listing is dual jurisdiction, dual documentation by and large. If you look at the Global Listing Board partnership that we have with Nasdaq, is two markets, two pools of capital that effectively are punchable across the world, part of this one document. Yes, the question they asked, how's the pipeline? When do we get listed? I think that is a significant structural change versus all other dual or separate listing that exists in global markets today. We are substantially reducing the friction for companies who want to access global capital, and in particular for us in the GLB with our partners in Nasdaq, is high-growth companies with a nexus to Asia.
Loh Boon Chye: Thank you for the question. I think, the usual format for a dual listing is dual jurisdiction, dual documentation by and large. If you look at the Global Listing Board partnership that we have with Nasdaq, is two markets, two pools of capital that effectively are punchable across the world, part of this one document. Yes, the question they asked, how's the pipeline? When do we get listed? I think that is a significant structural change versus all other dual or separate listing that exists in global markets today. We are substantially reducing the friction for companies who want to access global capital, and in particular for us in the GLB with our partners in Nasdaq, is high-growth companies with a nexus to Asia.
Speaker #2: Thank you for the question. I think the usual format for a dual listing is steward jurisdiction dual documentation, by and large. If you look at the global listing board partnership that we have with Nasdaq, it's two markets, two pools of capital that effectively are fungible across the world.
Speaker #2: But it is one document. Yes, of course, they may ask, how's the pipeline? When do we get listed? I think that is a significant structural change versus all other dual or separate listings that exist in global markets today.
Speaker #2: We are substantially reducing the friction for companies who want to access global capital, and in particular for us in the GLB with our partners in Nasdaq, it's high-growth companies with a nexus to Asia.
[Company Representative] (SGX Group): Maybe to add one important point to that is the requirement for companies that come to the GLB to also raise capital in the Singapore market. That from day one, there is natural demand and a natural supply of shares available. That is not always the case in other dual listings that we have seen where there is just a technical listing without a fundraise, and that's a very important difference.
[Company Representative] (SGX Group): Maybe to add one important point to that is the requirement for companies that come to the GLB to also raise capital in the Singapore market. That from day one, there is natural demand and a natural supply of shares available. That is not always the case in other dual listings that we have seen where there is just a technical listing without a fundraise, and that's a very important difference.
Speaker #3: Maybe to add one important point to that, and that is the requirement for companies that come to the GLB to also raise capital in the Singapore market.
Speaker #3: So that from day one, there is a natural demand and a natural supply of shares available. That is not always the case in other dual listings that we have seen, where there's just a technical listing without a fundraise.
Speaker #3: And that's a very important difference.
Speaker #2: Any questions from this? I think there are two or three over there. Maybe the one from the back first.
Loh Boon Chye: Any other questions from, yes, I think there are two or three over there. Maybe the one from the back first. Yeah.
Loh Boon Chye: Any other questions from, yes, I think there are two or three over there. Maybe the one from the back first. Yeah.
Speaker #4: Thank you. Thomas, one comment—just a quick question on capital allocation. You've decided, in a way, your return from what you got from Scientific Beta sale.
[Analyst] (Goldman Sachs): Thank you. Thomas from Goldman Sachs. Just a quick question on capital allocation. You've decided, in a way, you return what you got from Scientific Beta sale. With a lot of investment you need to do internally, is it fair to say that you're more looking at organic growth, investing your capability, rather than inorganic opportunities when you think about the next two or three years?
[Analyst] (Goldman Sachs): Thank you. Thomas from Goldman Sachs. Just a quick question on capital allocation. You've decided, in a way, you return what you got from Scientific Beta sale. With a lot of investment you need to do internally, is it fair to say that you're more looking at organic growth, investing your capability, rather than inorganic opportunities when you think about the next two or three years?
Speaker #4: So, is this with a lot of investment you need to do internally? Is it fair to say that you're more looking at organic growth, investing in your capability rather than inorganic opportunities, when you think about the next two or three years?
Speaker #2: Just a small correction: the capital recycling is not from the Scientific Beta cell. It's from a trading technology. It's a Seven Ridge fund that we disclosed earlier.
Loh Boon Chye: Just a small correction. The capital recycling is not from the Scientific Beta sale. It's from Trading Technologies, the 7RIDGE fund that we had disclosed earlier. With regards to how we think about growth. Organic, yes, comes first, and there is no shortage of requests. To Nick's earlier question about how we look at organic investments, and we look at the ROI, and Boon Chye and I kind of really look at it with a lot of vigor, to answer your earlier question, Nick. We are still actively open to evaluating opportunities from an inorganic perspective. We need to continue to focus on the discipline that we have. We want to stay patient. Anything we look at has got to have a strategic fit and add shareholder value. We are actively open.
Loh Boon Chye: Just a small correction. The capital recycling is not from the Scientific Beta sale. It's from Trading Technologies, the 7RIDGE fund that we had disclosed earlier. With regards to how we think about growth. Organic, yes, comes first, and there is no shortage of requests. To Nick's earlier question about how we look at organic investments, and we look at the ROI, and Boon Chye and I kind of really look at it with a lot of vigor, to answer your earlier question, Nick. We are still actively open to evaluating opportunities from an inorganic perspective. We need to continue to focus on the discipline that we have. We want to stay patient. Anything we look at has got to have a strategic fit and add shareholder value. We are actively open.
Speaker #2: With regards to how we think about growth, organic, yes, comes first. And there is no shortage of requests, to the earlier question, about how we look at organic investments.
Speaker #2: And we look at the ROI, and Boon Chai and I really look at it with a lot of rigor, to answer your earlier question, Nick.
Speaker #2: But we are still actively open to evaluating opportunities from an inorganic perspective. We need to continue to focus on the discipline that we have.
Speaker #2: We want to stay patient. Anything we look at has got to have a strategic fit and add shareholder value. So we are actively open.
[Analyst]: Hello. Hi, thank you for taking my question, management. Just on cash equities, of course, a great year this year. How much of this was market driven, and how much of this do you think is sustainable, like going to grow into FY27? A quick follow-up there also, we benefited this year from EQDP, a good pipeline of IPOs. What do you think were the biggest factors which led to some of the growth this year within these, and what would be, going into next year, some of the biggest growth drivers from among EQDP, IPO pipeline, and other factors?
[Analyst 5]: Hello. Hi, thank you for taking my question, management. Just on cash equities, of course, a great year this year. How much of this was market driven, and how much of this do you think is sustainable, like going to grow into FY 2027? A quick follow-up there also, we benefited this year from EQDP, a good pipeline of IPOs. What do you think were the biggest factors which led to some of the growth this year within these, and what would be, going into next year, some of the biggest growth drivers from among EQDP, IPO pipeline, and other factors?
Speaker #2: Thank you for taking my question, management. Just on cash equities—of course, a great year this year. How much of this was market-driven, and how much of this do you think is sustainable going into FY27?
Speaker #2: And a quick follow-up there. Also, we benefited this year from EQDP—a good pipeline of IPOs. What do you think were the biggest factors which led to some of the growth this year within these? And what would be, going into next year, some of the biggest growth drivers from among EQDP, IPO pipeline, and other factors?
Speaker #2: I would say there's no one single factor, but I think what is important is the various factors throughout the overall ecosystem coming together. I think there's one important, notable starting point: when this review group was formed.
Loh Boon Chye: I would say there's no one single factor, I think what is important is the various factors through the overall ecosystem coming together. I think that's one important notable starting point when this review group was formed. Secondly, it is very focused amongst the ecosystem with SGX in there too, that this has to be sustainable. It should not be a one-off. That leads to the various things that are happening, whether that is the EQDP managers, the program around that, Value Unlock movement, the GEMS, which is research, enabling and making access to the market easier, education, the mix of participants. It's important for us to keep the flywheel going. No particular ones. They all come together in the ecosystem with the mind that we need a vibrant, active stock exchange. Is it Jayden? You had another one?
Loh Boon Chye: I would say there's no one single factor, I think what is important is the various factors through the overall ecosystem coming together. I think that's one important notable starting point when this review group was formed. Secondly, it is very focused amongst the ecosystem with SGX in there too, that this has to be sustainable. It should not be a one-off. That leads to the various things that are happening, whether that is the EQDP managers, the program around that, Value Unlock movement, the GEMS, which is research, enabling and making access to the market easier, education, the mix of participants. It's important for us to keep the flywheel going. No particular ones. They all come together in the ecosystem with the mind that we need a vibrant, active stock exchange. Is it Jayden? You had another one?
Speaker #2: And then, secondly, it is very focused amongst the ecosystem, with SGX in that too, that this has to be sustainable. It should not be a one-off.
Speaker #2: And then that leads to the various things that are happening, whether that is the EQDP managers, the program around that, value unlock movement, the GEMS, which is research, enabling and making access to the market easier, education, and the mix of participants.
Speaker #2: So it's important for us to keep the flywheel going. So, no particular ones—they all come together in the ecosystem, with the mind that we need a vibrant, active stock exchange.
Speaker #2: Is it Jayden? You had another one? Yeah.
Speaker #4: Thank you. I just wanted to ask a follow-up question about the dividend. I think it's great that you've made this move. But just to understand, would you only consider this kind of, I guess, outcome if you were to recycle capital, or is there a point where you say, hey, we didn't do any M&A like we were budgeting for, and now we actually have some extra capital to return to shareholders?
Jayden Vantarakis: Thank you. I just wanted to ask a follow-up question about the dividend. I think it's great that you've made this move. Just to understand, would you only consider this kind of outcome if you were to recycle capital, or is there a point where you say, Hey, we didn't do any M&A like we were budgeting for, and now we actually have some extra capital to return to shareholders? How do you think about whether it's possible to do more?
[Analyst 2]: Thank you. I just wanted to ask a follow-up question about the dividend. I think it's great that you've made this move. Just to understand, would you only consider this kind of outcome if you were to recycle capital, or is there a point where you say, Hey, we didn't do any M&A like we were budgeting for, and now we actually have some extra capital to return to shareholders? How do you think about whether it's possible to do more?
Speaker #4: How do you sort of think about whether it’s possible to do more?
Speaker #2: Well, you can also look at it that way. One year into a two-year guidance, we could also increase, or propose to try and deliver, a higher quarterly shift. But it's one year into a three-year plan.
Loh Boon Chye: Well, you can also look at it that way. We're one year into a three-year guidance. We could also increase or propose to try and deliver a higher quarterly shift, but it's one year into a three-year plan. Given it's a very strong year, we kept the recycling. We thought let's have a reward for our shareholders more upfront.
Loh Boon Chye: Well, you can also look at it that way. We're one year into a three-year guidance. We could also increase or propose to try and deliver a higher quarterly shift, but it's one year into a three-year plan. Given it's a very strong year, we kept the recycling. We thought let's have a reward for our shareholders more upfront.
Speaker #2: And given the, say, very strong year, we kept the recycling. We thought, let's have a reward for our shareholders more upfront.
Speaker #4: That makes sense. Thank you.
Jayden Vantarakis: Makes sense. Thank you.
[Analyst 2]: Makes sense. Thank you.
Speaker #2: Yeah, Nick. And then we go online.
Loh Boon Chye: Danick, then we go online.
Loh Boon Chye: Danick, then we go online.
Speaker #4: Can I just build on that question and the answer Daniel gave? I mean, I guess the issue you've got is that, if everything goes to plan, you're going to be generating a lot more cash going forward than you have done historically.
Nick Sawyer: Can I just build on that question and the answer Daniel gave? I guess the issue you've got is that if everything goes to plan, you're going to be generating a lot more cash going forward than you have done historically. So, yes, I accept that things are changing. There are lots of opportunities. You absolutely should invest to take advantage of those opportunities. In your mind, is this like a two-year or three-year sort of hump we invest, and then we get the returns coming out, and we give those back via higher dividends? Is this, you're just going to be investing forever? How are you thinking about how you get the benefits of this investment coming back to shareholders, and how should we be thinking about it in timing terms?
[Company Representative] (SGX Group): Can I just build on that question and the answer Daniel gave? I guess the issue you've got is that if everything goes to plan, you're going to be generating a lot more cash going forward than you have done historically. So, yes, I accept that things are changing. There are lots of opportunities. You absolutely should invest to take advantage of those opportunities. In your mind, is this like a two-year or three-year sort of hump we invest, and then we get the returns coming out, and we give those back via higher dividends? Is this, you're just going to be investing forever? How are you thinking about how you get the benefits of this investment coming back to shareholders, and how should we be thinking about it in timing terms?
Speaker #4: And so, yes, I accept that things are changing. There are lots of opportunities—you absolutely should invest, take advantage of those opportunities. But in your mind, is this a two-year or three-year sort of hump where we invest and then we get returns coming out and we give those back via higher dividends, or is this a case where you’re just going to be investing forever?
Speaker #4: I mean, how are you thinking about how you get the benefits of this investment coming back to shareholders, and how should we be thinking about it in terms of timing?
Speaker #2: Yeah, I'll say the following. Yes, there's going to be organic investments. We're also focused on building adjacency or a deeper moat in our asset classes.
Loh Boon Chye: I'll say the following. Yes, there is going to be organic investments. We'll also focus on building adjacency or deeper moat in our asset classes. That could entail not just organic, but inorganic. We also want to be patient. I think it is important that we look at any M&A that could really be strategic, as Daniel said, value accretive, and build our moat further. There is probably a limit to the patience by shareholders. If after a period, we still think that we have more than sufficient and a very cash and very strong balance sheet, we clearly would then want to return the capital to shareholder. We are keeping a very close eye on what are the opportunities, and if this does not prevail over a period of time, then we probably do not need that much cash on our balance sheet.
Loh Boon Chye: I'll say the following. Yes, there is going to be organic investments. We'll also focus on building adjacency or deeper moat in our asset classes. That could entail not just organic, but inorganic. We also want to be patient. I think it is important that we look at any M&A that could really be strategic, as Daniel said, value accretive, and build our moat further. There is probably a limit to the patience by shareholders. If after a period, we still think that we have more than sufficient and a very cash and very strong balance sheet, we clearly would then want to return the capital to shareholder. We are keeping a very close eye on what are the opportunities, and if this does not prevail over a period of time, then we probably do not need that much cash on our balance sheet.
Speaker #2: And that could entail not just organic, but also inorganic growth. But we want to be patient. I think it's important that we look at any M&A that could really be strategic, as Daniel said.
Speaker #2: Value accretive and build our moat further. But there's probably a limit to the patience by shareholders. So if it's after a period, we still think that we have more than sufficient and very strong cash and a very strong balance sheet.
Speaker #2: We clearly would then want to return the capital to shareholders. So we're keeping a very close eye on what opportunities there are, and if this does not prevail over a period of time, then we probably don't need that much cash on our balance sheet.
Speaker #4: But sorry, just to add on, specifically with regard to the question on technology spend and the platform modernization, we see capability building in terms of engineering and product. That's going to take about two years, to be clear.
Loh Boon Chye: Sorry, just to add on, specifically with regards to the question on technology spend and the platform modernization that we see, capability building in terms of engineering and product, that is going to take about 2 years to be clear.
Loh Boon Chye: Sorry, just to add on, specifically with regards to the question on technology spend and the platform modernization that we see, capability building in terms of engineering and product, that is going to take about 2 years to be clear.
Speaker #1: So a follow-up question from Akash at UBS: Will the GRB-listed companies be eligible for the SDI, FTSE ST, and MSCI Singapore?
Liana Chue: A follow-up question from Aakash, UBS. Will the GLB-listed companies be eligible for the STI, FTSE, STI, and MSCI Singapore?
Liana Chue: A follow-up question from Aakash, UBS.
[Analyst] (UBS): Will the GLB-listed companies be eligible for the STI, FTSE, STI, and MSCI Singapore?
Speaker #4: Yes, if they meet the criteria.
Loh Boon Chye: If they meet the criteria.
Loh Boon Chye: If they meet the criteria.
Speaker #1: Maybe we can take one from a retail investor. Are we looking to expand our Singapore depository receipts, for example, to Australia or other markets?
Liana Chue: Maybe we can take one from a retail investor. Are we looking to expand our Singapore Depository Receipts, for example, to Australia or other borders?
Liana Chue: Maybe we can take one from a retail investor. Are we looking to expand our Singapore Depository Receipts, for example, to Australia or other borders?
Speaker #4: Yeah, so we have recently launched three; that is our fourth market, doing quite well in terms of retail investor receptivity. I think we're looking to build, increase the accessibility.
Loh Boon Chye: Yeah, we have recently launched three. That is our fourth market, doing quite well in terms of retail investor receptivity. Certainly, we are looking to build increased accessibility, certainly, we are looking at more markets around the region and possibly a bit further ahead and some more thematic names. The idea is to build a cluster of instruments in which our market participants, including retail investors, can invest. I also want to point out that this will not just be in SDR format, but ETFs and so on. You would have seen that MAS is now consulting on allowing a broader range of instruments or ETFs that can be listed on the exchange. I am hopeful that that will go through, and that will allow issuers to respond to market demand and be able to be more agile to meet customer needs.
Loh Boon Chye: Yeah, we have recently launched three. That is our fourth market, doing quite well in terms of retail investor receptivity. Certainly, we are looking to build increased accessibility, certainly, we are looking at more markets around the region and possibly a bit further ahead and some more thematic names. The idea is to build a cluster of instruments in which our market participants, including retail investors, can invest. I also want to point out that this will not just be in SDR format, but ETFs and so on. You would have seen that MAS is now consulting on allowing a broader range of instruments or ETFs that can be listed on the exchange. I am hopeful that that will go through, and that will allow issuers to respond to market demand and be able to be more agile to meet customer needs.
Speaker #4: So certainly, we are looking at more markets around the region, and possibly a bit further ahead, and some more thematic names. So the idea is to build a cluster of instruments in which our market participants, including retail investors, can invest.
Speaker #4: So I also want to point out that this will not just be in the SDR format, but ETFs and so on. You would have seen that MAS is now consulting on allowing a broader range of instruments or ETFs that can be listed on the exchange.
Speaker #4: I'm hopeful that will go through, and that will allow issuers to respond to market demand and be more agile to meet customer needs.
Speaker #2: Maybe one last question from those of you present here. Okay, thank you all for joining this, and for those of you in Asia, it's a bit late in the evening, but thank you.
Loh Boon Chye: Maybe one last question from those of you present here. If not, thank you for joining this. I know for those of you in Asia, it is a bit late in the evening, thank you.
Loh Boon Chye: Maybe one last question from those of you present here. If not, thank you for joining this. I know for those of you in Asia, it is a bit late in the evening, thank you.
Speaker #1: All right, I had one last question. Just now, Bunchai, you mentioned the Very Unlock program. Do you have any updates on that? Because we are eagerly waiting for an update.
[Analyst]: Sorry, I had one last question. Just now, Boon Chai, you mentioned about the Value Unlock Programme. Do you have any updates to that? We are eagerly waiting for an update.
Liana Chue: Sorry, I had one last question. Just now, Boon Chai, you mentioned about the Value Unlock Programme. Do you have any updates to that? We are eagerly waiting for an update.
Speaker #4: I think the value unlock program is a long-term—it's my, yeah, okay. It's a long-term program. So, we had a good initial response in terms of finding out what that was.
Loh Boon Chye: I think the Value Unlock Programme is a long-term program. We had a good initial response in terms of finding out what that was, and so we've got more than 50 that have gone through the IR training, and then a handful of companies clearly have signed up for the Elevate, which is more of the corporate restructuring and IR narrative. This has only been six months. I think the more important thing, as for many things, is about the mindset shift, and that clearly doesn't happen overnight. If I could sum it up, the results of what we see is encouraging, but I would like the movement to be a lot broader, and that will take a bit more time.
Loh Boon Chye: I think the Value Unlock Programme is a long-term program. We had a good initial response in terms of finding out what that was, and so we've got more than 50 that have gone through the IR training, and then a handful of companies clearly have signed up for the Elevate, which is more of the corporate restructuring and IR narrative. This has only been six months. I think the more important thing, as for many things, is about the mindset shift, and that clearly doesn't happen overnight. If I could sum it up, the results of what we see is encouraging, but I would like the movement to be a lot broader, and that will take a bit more time.
Speaker #4: And so we've got more than 50 who have gone through the IRL training, and then a handful of companies clearly have signed up for Elevate, which is more of the corporate restructuring and IRL narrative.
Speaker #4: But this has only been six months. I think the more important thing, as with many things, is about the mindset shift, and that clearly doesn't happen overnight.
Speaker #4: So, if I could sum it up, the results, or what we see, are encouraging. But I would like the movement to be a lot broader, and that will take a bit more time.
Speaker #3: Yeah, maybe I can supplement. I think, as you have seen, the value unlock movement is something that is really sweeping across Asia, and all regulators, including ourselves, are very encouraged.
Loh Boon Chye: Yeah. Maybe I can supplement
[Company Representative] (SGX Group): Yeah. Maybe I can supplement I think as you have seen, the value unlock movement is something that's really sweeping across Asia, and all regulators, including ourselves, we are very encouraged. We are also encouraging this movement because we think that it is good for the market, it's good for shareholders. In particular, what we're trying to do is that we're trying to encourage greater transparency. We think this will drive market discipline, and this will in turn drive this value unlocking.
[Company Representative] (SGX Group): I think as you have seen, the value unlock movement is something that's really sweeping across Asia, and all regulators, including ourselves, we are very encouraged. We are also encouraging this movement because we think that it is good for the market, it's good for shareholders. In particular, what we're trying to do is that we're trying to encourage greater transparency. We think this will drive market discipline, and this will in turn drive this value unlocking.
Speaker #3: We are also encouraging this movement because we think that it is good for the market. It's good for shareholders. And in particular, what we're trying to do is encourage greater transparency.
Speaker #3: We think this will drive market discipline, and this will, in turn, drive this value-unlocking movement.
Speaker #1: Okay, thank you.
[Analyst]: Okay. Thank you.
Liana Chue: Okay. Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you.
[Company Representative] (SGX Group): Thank you. Music.
Loh Boon Chye: Thank you.
