Q2 2026 Freshpet Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Good morning, and welcome to Freshpet's second quarter 2026 earnings call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero.
Operator 2: Good morning, and welcome to the Freshpet Q2 2026 Earnings Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's remarks, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touch-tone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Rachel Ulsh, Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications. Please go ahead.
Operator: Good morning, and welcome to the Freshpet Q2 2026 Earnings Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's remarks, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touch-tone phone.
Operator: To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Rachel Ulsh, Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Rachel Walsh, Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Rachel Walsh, Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications. Please go ahead.
Rachel Ulsh: Good morning, and welcome to Freshpet's Q2 2026 earnings call and webcast. On today's call are Billy Cyr, Chief Executive Officer, and John O'Connor, Chief Financial Officer. Nicki Baty, Chief Operating Officer, will also be available for Q&A. Before we begin, please remember that during the course of this call, management may make forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These include statements related to the size of the category and our TAM, our strategy and expectations for growth, the competitive advantages of our manufacturing on quality and cost, fridge expansion expectations, opportunities in capital efficiencies, timing of new lines and capital spending, 2026 guidance, and 2027 targets.
Rachel Ulsh: Good morning, and welcome to Freshpet's Q2 2026 earnings call and webcast. On today's call are Billy Cyr, Chief Executive Officer, and John O'Connor, Chief Financial Officer. Nicki Baty, Chief Operating Officer, will also be available for Q&A. Before we begin, please remember that during the course of this call, management may make forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.
Speaker #2: Good morning, and welcome to today's call. On the call are Billy Cyr, Chief Executive Officer, John O'Connor, Chief Financial Officer, and Nikki Beatty, Chief Operating Officer, who will also be available for Q&A.
Speaker #2: Before we begin, please remember that during the course of this call, management may make forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.
Rachel Ulsh: These include statements related to the size of the category and our TAM, our strategy and expectations for growth, the competitive advantages of our manufacturing on quality and cost, fridge expansion expectations, opportunities in capital efficiencies, timing of new lines and capital spending, 2026 guidance, and 2027 targets.
Speaker #2: Category in our TAM, our strategy, competitive advantages of our manufacturing on quality and cost, fridge expansion expectations, opportunities in capital efficiencies, timing of new lines and capital spending, 2026 guidance, and 2027 targets.
Speaker #2: They involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially for many forward-looking statements made today, including those associated with these statements, and those discussed in our earnings press release and our most recent filings with SEC, including our 2025 annual report on Form 10-K, which are all available on our website.
Rachel Ulsh: They involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from any forward-looking statements made today, including those associated with these statements and those discussed in our earnings press release and our most recent filings with the SEC, including our 2025 annual report on Form 10-K, which are all available on our website. Please note that on today's call, management will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures such as EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA, among others. While the company believes these non-GAAP financial measures provide useful information for investors, the presentation of this information is not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for the financial information presented in accordance with GAAP.
Rachel Ulsh: They involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from any forward-looking statements made today, including those associated with these statements and those discussed in our earnings press release and our most recent filings with the SEC, including our 2025 annual report on Form 10-K, which are all available on our website.
Rachel Ulsh: Please note that on today's call, management will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures such as EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA, among others. While the company believes these non-GAAP financial measures provide useful information for investors, the presentation of this information is not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for the financial information presented in accordance with GAAP.
Speaker #2: During today's call, management will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures, such as EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA, among others. While the company believes these non-GAAP financial measures provide useful information for investors, the presentation of this information is not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for the financial information presented in accordance with GAAP.
Speaker #2: Please refer to today's press release for how management defines such non-GAAP measures, why management believes such non-GAAP measures are useful, a reconciliation of the non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable measures prepared in accordance with GAAP, and the limitations associated with them. The company has also produced a presentation that contains many of the key metrics that will be discussed on this call.
Rachel Ulsh: Please refer to today's press release for how management defines such non-GAAP measures, why management believes such non-GAAP measures are useful, a reconciliation of the non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable measures prepared in accordance with GAAP, and limitations associated with such non-GAAP measures. Finally, the company has produced a presentation that contains many of the key metrics that will be discussed on this call. That presentation can be found on the company's investor website. Management's commentary will not specifically walk through the presentation on the call, rather it is a summary of the results and guidance they will discuss today. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Billy Cyr, Chief Executive Officer.
Rachel Ulsh: Please refer to today's press release for how management defines such non-GAAP measures, why management believes such non-GAAP measures are useful, a reconciliation of the non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable measures prepared in accordance with GAAP, and limitations associated with such non-GAAP measures.
Rachel Ulsh: Finally, the company has produced a presentation that contains many of the key metrics that will be discussed on this call. That presentation can be found on the company's investor website. Management's commentary will not specifically walk through the presentation on the call, rather it is a summary of the results and guidance they will discuss today. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Billy Cyr, Chief Executive Officer.
Speaker #2: That presentation can be found on the company's investor website. Management's commentary will not specifically walk through the presentation on the call; rather, it is a summary of the results and guidance they will discuss today.
Speaker #2: With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Billy Cyr, Chief Executive Officer.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Rachel, and good morning, everyone. The message I would like you to take away from today's call is that our results, and the number of competitors trying to emulate us, continue to prove that Fresh is the future of pet food. We remain well-positioned to capture a meaningful share of what we believe can become a $10 billion category over time.
Billy Cyr: Thank you, Rachel. Good morning, everyone. The message I would like you to take away from today's call is that our results and the number of competitors trying to emulate us continue to prove that fresh is the future of pet food, and we remain well-positioned to capture a meaningful share of what we believe can become a $10 billion category over time. Our confidence is grounded in the scale, quality, and cost advantages we have built through our owned manufacturing network, our broad product portfolio, and our expanding on-the-channel presence. We've built a business over the last 20 years around a wide range of product forms, sizes, prices, and channels, and believe our manufacturing scale and expertise is one of our greatest competitive advantages, enabling us to create the highest quality products at the lowest cost.
Billy Cyr: Thank you, Rachel. Good morning, everyone. The message I would like you to take away from today's call is that our results and the number of competitors trying to emulate us continue to prove that fresh is the future of pet food, and we remain well-positioned to capture a meaningful share of what we believe can become a $10 billion category over time.
Speaker #3: Our confidence is grounded in the scale, quality, and cost advantages we have built through our owned manufacturing network, our broad product portfolio, and our expanding omnichannel presence.
Billy Cyr: Our confidence is grounded in the scale, quality, and cost advantages we have built through our owned manufacturing network, our broad product portfolio, and our expanding on-the-channel presence.
Speaker #3: We have built a business over the last 20 years around a wide range of product forms, sizes, prices, and channels, and believe our manufacturing scale and expertise is one of our greatest competitive advantages enabling us to create the highest quality products at the lowest cost.
Billy Cyr: We've built a business over the last 20 years around a wide range of product forms, sizes, prices, and channels, and believe our manufacturing scale and expertise is one of our greatest competitive advantages, enabling us to create the highest quality products at the lowest cost.
Speaker #3: Our second quarter financial results were ahead of our guidance range for the year, demonstrating the power of our business model. We delivered our strongest growth rate in over a year, and our highest adjusted gross margin since Q1 of 2020.
Billy Cyr: Our Q2 financial results were ahead of our guidance range for the year, demonstrating the power of our business model. We delivered our strongest growth rate in over a year and our highest adjusted gross margin since Q1 2020. As a result, we are raising our sales and adjusted EBITDA guidance ranges for 2026, which John will cover in a few moments. We accomplished this against a challenging consumer backdrop, with higher gas prices and weaker consumer sentiment affecting trade-up behavior across a number of categories, including pet food. This is a pattern we have seen before. It is one we anticipated. We are encouraged by recent improvements in consumer sentiment, we are also mindful that the macro remains volatile and are not relying on sustained improvements to deliver our updated guidance.
Billy Cyr: Our Q2 financial results were ahead of our guidance range for the year, demonstrating the power of our business model. We delivered our strongest growth rate in over a year and our highest adjusted gross margin since Q1 2020. As a result, we are raising our sales and adjusted EBITDA guidance ranges for 2026, which John will cover in a few moments.
Speaker #3: As a result, we are raising our sales and adjusted EBITDA guidance ranges for 2026, which John will cover in a few moments. We accomplished this against a challenging consumer backdrop, with higher gas prices and weaker consumer sentiment affecting trade-up behavior across a number of categories, including pet food.
Billy Cyr: We accomplished this against a challenging consumer backdrop, with higher gas prices and weaker consumer sentiment affecting trade-up behavior across a number of categories, including pet food.
Billy Cyr: This is a pattern we have seen before. It is one we anticipated. We are encouraged by recent improvements in consumer sentiment, we are also mindful that the macro remains volatile and are not relying on sustained improvements to deliver our updated guidance.
Speaker #3: before, and it is one we anticipated. We are encouraged by recent improvements in consumer sentiment, but we are also mindful that the macro remains volatile and are not relying on sustained improvements to deliver our updated guidance.
Speaker #3: Amidst that volatile consumer backdrop, our consumer This is a pattern we have seen franchise remains healthy. With an increasing share of our growth coming from increases in the buying rate of our consumers, that is a reflection of both our focus on the MVPs who spend five times more per year than the average household and account for 71% of our sales, and the tentative consumer backdrop.
Billy Cyr: Amidst that volatile consumer backdrop, our consumer franchise remains healthy, with an increasing share of our growth coming from increases in the buying rate of our consumers. That is a reflection of both our focus on the MVPs who spend five times more per year than the average household and account for 71% of our sales and the tentative consumer backdrop. We closely monitor the combination of household penetration growth and buying rate growth as a good proxy for our total net sales growth and know that the balance between the two can shift over time based on the economic backdrop and the strength of our efforts to win more MVPs. Over the last 52 weeks, that combination totaled 13%, with 7% coming from buying rate growth as we grew MVPs at a much higher rate than we grew overall households.
Billy Cyr: Amidst that volatile consumer backdrop, our consumer franchise remains healthy, with an increasing share of our growth coming from increases in the buying rate of our consumers. That is a reflection of both our focus on the MVPs who spend five times more per year than the average household and account for 71% of our sales and the tentative consumer backdrop.
Speaker #3: We closely monitor the combination of household penetration growth and buying rate growth as a good proxy for our total net sales growth, and know that the balance between the two can shift over time based on the economic backdrop and the strength of our efforts to win more MVPs.
Billy Cyr: We closely monitor the combination of household penetration growth and buying rate growth as a good proxy for our total net sales growth and know that the balance between the two can shift over time based on the economic backdrop and the strength of our efforts to win more MVPs. Over the last 52 weeks, that combination totaled 13%, with 7% coming from buying rate growth as we grew MVPs at a much higher rate than we grew overall households.
Speaker #3: Over the last 52 weeks, that combination totaled 13%, with 7% coming from buying rate growth as we grew MVPs at a much higher rate than we grew overall households.
Speaker #3: Those strong results give us the confidence to continue investing behind the long-term opportunity while maintaining discipline in how we balance growth, profitability, and returns on capital.
Billy Cyr: Those strong results give us the confidence to continue investing behind the long-term opportunity while maintaining discipline in how we balance growth, profitability, and returns on capital. We are seeing encouraging evidence that our business model is working across three key areas: on the channel access, marketing and consumer engagement, and manufacturing scale and expertise. First, on the channel. We continue to expand access to Freshpet in the places and channels where consumers increasingly want to shop. We believe we're uniquely positioned to compete in multiple channels rather than one. This will really unlock that MVP consumer. Our products are available in over 30,000 stores, and approximately 25% of our US and Canadian stores have multiple fridges. That footprint is increasingly valuable because our fridges do more than support in-store sales. They also serve as micro-fulfillment points for our on-the-channel demand.
Billy Cyr: Those strong results give us the confidence to continue investing behind the long-term opportunity while maintaining discipline in how we balance growth, profitability, and returns on capital.
Speaker #3: We are seeing encouraging evidence that our business model is working across three key areas: omnichannel access, marketing and consumer engagement, and manufacturing scale and expertise.
Billy Cyr: We are seeing encouraging evidence that our business model is working across three key areas: on the channel access, marketing and consumer engagement, and manufacturing scale and expertise. First, on the channel. We continue to expand access to Freshpet in the places and channels where consumers increasingly want to shop.
Speaker #3: First, omnichannel. We continue to expand access to Freshpet in the places and channels where consumers increasingly want to shop. We believe we're uniquely positioned to compete in multiple channels rather than one, and this will really unlock that MVP consumer.
Billy Cyr: We believe we're uniquely positioned to compete in multiple channels rather than one. This will really unlock that MVP consumer. Our products are available in over 30,000 stores, and approximately 25% of our US and Canadian stores have multiple fridges. That footprint is increasingly valuable because our fridges do more than support in-store sales. They also serve as micro-fulfillment points for our on-the-channel demand.
Speaker #3: Our products are available in over 30,000 stores, and approximately 25% of our U.S. and Canadian stores have multiple fridges. That footprint is increasingly valuable because our fridges do more than support in-store sales.
Speaker #3: They also serve as micro-fulfillment points for our omnichannel demand. Our multiple chiller expansion will enable holding capacity to support both online and in-store sales, and the broadest possible assortment to be available nationally.
Billy Cyr: Our multiple chiller expansion will enable holding capacities to support both online and in-store sales and the broadest possible assortment to be available nationally. In Q2, digital orders grew 41% and accounted for 16.7% of our total business. This was up from 16.1% in Q1, and approximately 78% of those sales volume went through our extensive fridge network. Additionally, our growth in D2C and pure-play e-commerce was particularly strong in the quarter. We are encouraged by the way retailers are responding to consumer demand for Freshpet food, with total distribution points up 13% in Q2. We continue to see opportunities to add fridges to existing high-velocity locations, expand selectively with new retail partners, and broaden our presence in channels such as club. For example, we have 33 Fridge Islands in market today across select stores in mass, pet specialty, and grocery.
Billy Cyr: Our multiple chiller expansion will enable holding capacities to support both online and in-store sales and the broadest possible assortment to be available nationally. In Q2, digital orders grew 41% and accounted for 16.7% of our total business. This was up from 16.1% in Q1, and approximately 78% of those sales volume went through our extensive fridge network.
Speaker #3: In the second quarter, digital orders grew 41% and accounted for 16.7% of our total business. This was up from 16.1% in the first quarter, and approximately 78% of that sales volume went through our extensive fridge network.
Speaker #3: Additionally, our growth in DTC and pure play e-commerce was particularly strong in the quarter. We are encouraged, by the way, retailers are responding to consumer demand for Freshpet food, with total distribution points up 13% in the second quarter.
Billy Cyr: Additionally, our growth in D2C and pure-play e-commerce was particularly strong in the quarter. We are encouraged by the way retailers are responding to consumer demand for Freshpet food, with total distribution points up 13% in Q2.
Speaker #3: We continue to see opportunities to add fridges to existing high-velocity locations, expand selectively with new retail partners, and broaden our presence and channels, such as Club.
Billy Cyr: We continue to see opportunities to add fridges to existing high-velocity locations, expand selectively with new retail partners, and broaden our presence in channels such as club. For example, we have 33 Fridge Islands in market today across select stores in mass, pet specialty, and grocery.
Speaker #3: For example, we have 33 fridge islands in the market today across select stores in Mass, Pet Specialty, and Grocery. Further, we now expect to expand our presence to at least 700 rural lifestyle retail stores by the end of the year, and we are now testing a third SKU in a set of Club stores.
Billy Cyr: Further, we now expect to expand our presence to at least 700 rural lifestyle retail stores by the end of the year. We are now testing a third SKU in a set of club stores. We'll continue experimenting with retail partners on what fridge configuration and merchandising work best, but at this point, do not expect a material expansion of our Fridge Islands in 2026. Discussions for 2027 are underway now. Taken together, we believe that both retail-based TDP growth and e-commerce growth are a good representation of how we can continue to deliver strong on-the-channel growth. We still have limited market share in the category, with only 4.3% in US dog food and treats, according to NielsenIQ on-the-channel data. However, we are the fastest growing brand in dog food in dollars and the second most popular brand among new Gen Z and millennial dog households.
Billy Cyr: Further, we now expect to expand our presence to at least 700 rural lifestyle retail stores by the end of the year. We are now testing a third SKU in a set of club stores. We'll continue experimenting with retail partners on what fridge configuration and merchandising work best, but at this point, do not expect a material expansion of our Fridge Islands in 2026. Discussions for 2027 are underway now.
Speaker #3: We will continue experimenting with retail partners on what fridge configuration and merchandising work best, but at this point, we do not expect a material expansion of our fridge islands in 2026.
Speaker #3: Discussions for 2027 are underway now. Taken together, we believe that both retail-based TDP growth and e-commerce growth are a good representation of how we can continue to deliver strong omnichannel growth.
Billy Cyr: Taken together, we believe that both retail-based TDP growth and e-commerce growth are a good representation of how we can continue to deliver strong on-the-channel growth. We still have limited market share in the category, with only 4.3% in US dog food and treats, according to NielsenIQ on-the-channel data. However, we are the fastest growing brand in dog food in dollars and the second most popular brand among new Gen Z and millennial dog households.
Speaker #3: We still have limited market share in the category, with only 4.3% in U.S. dog food and treats, according to Nielsen Omnichannel Data. However, we are the fastest-growing brand in dog food in dollars, and the second most popular brand among new Gen Z and millennial dog households.
Speaker #3: Second, our marketing and consumer engagement is becoming more effective as we sharpen both the message and the audience definition. Our latest campaign, Better Food for Your Better Half, is designed to deepen the emotional connection with pet parents while reinforcing the difference Fresh Food can make.
Billy Cyr: Second, our marketing and consumer engagement is becoming more effective as we sharpen both the message and the audience definition. Our latest campaign, Better Food for Your Better Half, is designed to deepen the emotional connection with pet parents while reinforcing the difference fresh food can make. In terms of households, we are particularly encouraged by the strength we are seeing among millennials, e-commerce shoppers, club shoppers, and our highest value households. These are areas where we made deliberate investments, and the early results suggest those investments are beginning to pay off. We are disproportionately winning with millennials and Gen Z compared to the category, and they are the future pet parents that are driving the total addressable market growth. They also over-index to purchasing online and in the club channel, where we see a long runway for growth.
Billy Cyr: Second, our marketing and consumer engagement is becoming more effective as we sharpen both the message and the audience definition. Our latest campaign, Better Food for Your Better Half, is designed to deepen the emotional connection with pet parents while reinforcing the difference fresh food can make.
Speaker #3: In terms of households, we are particularly encouraged by the strength we are seeing among millennials, e-commerce shoppers, Club shoppers, and our highest-value households. These are areas where we made deliberate investments in the early results suggest those investments are beginning to pay off.
Billy Cyr: In terms of households, we are particularly encouraged by the strength we are seeing among millennials, e-commerce shoppers, club shoppers, and our highest value households.
Billy Cyr: These are areas where we made deliberate investments, and the early results suggest those investments are beginning to pay off. We are disproportionately winning with millennials and Gen Z compared to the category, and they are the future pet parents that are driving the total addressable market growth. They also over-index to purchasing online and in the club channel, where we see a long runway for growth.
Speaker #3: We are disproportionately winning with millennials and Gen Z compared to the category, and they are the future pet parents that are driving the total addressable market growth.
Speaker #3: They also over-index the purchasing online and in the Club channel, where we see a long runway for growth. We are building a stronger, more durable consumer franchise by increasing availability, improving relevance, and deepening relationships with the pet parents who are most likely to participate in the long-term shift from conventional pet food to Fresh.
Billy Cyr: We are building a stronger, more durable consumer franchise by increasing availability, improving relevance, and deepening relationships with the pet parents who are most likely to participate in the long-term shift from conventional pet food to fresh. Third, our manufacturing scale, technical capability, and expertise continue to be a meaningful competitive advantage, and that is evident in both the operating performance we have delivered and the noticeable difference between the products we produce and those that our competitors are able to produce. We now have three lines utilizing our new bag clodag technology, two in Bethlehem and one in Ennis. We are encouraged by the improvement in quality, throughput, yield, and unit economics and what it could mean for innovation.
Billy Cyr: We are building a stronger, more durable consumer franchise by increasing availability, improving relevance, and deepening relationships with the pet parents who are most likely to participate in the long-term shift from conventional pet food to fresh.
Speaker #3: Third, our manufacturing scale, technical capability, and expertise continue to be a meaningful competitive advantage. And that is evident in both the operating performance we have delivered and the noticeable difference between the products we produce and those that our competitors are able to produce.
Billy Cyr: Third, our manufacturing scale, technical capability, and expertise continue to be a meaningful competitive advantage, and that is evident in both the operating performance we have delivered and the noticeable difference between the products we produce and those that our competitors are able to produce.
Speaker #3: We now have three lines utilizing our new bag product technology: Q in Bethlehem, and one in Ennis. We are encouraged by the improvement in quality, throughput, yield, and unit economics—and what it could mean for innovation.
Billy Cyr: We now have three lines utilizing our new bag clodag technology, two in Bethlehem and one in Ennis. We are encouraged by the improvement in quality, throughput, yield, and unit economics and what it could mean for innovation.
Speaker #3: Those lines are running well, and we expect to continue to refine our operating performance on those lines for the balance of the year, just as you would expect with any breakthrough new technology.
Billy Cyr: Those lines are running well, and we expect to continue to refine our operating performance on those lines for the balance of the year, just as you would expect with any breakthrough new technology. You can see some evidence of that in the slightly higher quality costs in the quarter, which are due to disposals we incurred during the startup phase. We have clear line of sight to the margin improvements that we can unlock with this technology. At fully optimized performance, we expect over 100 basis points of gross margin improvement on the entire business from the lines we have already installed. We expect approximately 25 basis points of improvement from the new technology in 2026 and more in 2027 as we continue to improve and optimize performance. These technology investments are not just operational improvements. They are strategic enablers.
Billy Cyr: Those lines are running well, and we expect to continue to refine our operating performance on those lines for the balance of the year, just as you would expect with any breakthrough new technology. You can see some evidence of that in the slightly higher quality costs in the quarter, which are due to disposals we incurred during the startup phase. We have clear line of sight to the margin improvements that we can unlock with this technology.
Speaker #3: You can see some evidence of that in the slightly higher quality costs in the quarter, which are due to disposals we incurred during the startup phase.
Speaker #3: We have clear line of sight to the margin improvements that we can unlock with this technology. At fully optimized performance, we expect over 100 basis points of gross margin improvement on the entire business from the lines we have already installed.
Billy Cyr: At fully optimized performance, we expect over 100 basis points of gross margin improvement on the entire business from the lines we have already installed. We expect approximately 25 basis points of improvement from the new technology in 2026 and more in 2027 as we continue to improve and optimize performance. These technology investments are not just operational improvements. They are strategic enablers.
Speaker #3: We expect approximately 25 basis points of improvement from the new technology in 2026, and more in 2027 as we continue to improve and optimize performance.
Speaker #3: These technology investments are not just operational improvements. They are strategic and enablers. They support better product quality, greater capacity, and new forms of innovation that can help us serve a broader range of consumer needs over time and attract new MVPs to the brand.
Billy Cyr: They support better product quality, greater capacity, and new forms of innovation that can help us serve a broader range of consumer needs over time and attract new MVPs to the brand. When fully optimized, the new technology can produce more product per day than a conventional line, higher quality and more innovative products, and do it with greater yields. We've already begun to launch new innovation from these lines in a cross-section of stores, including Homestyle Creations Beef and Healthy Mixers. These new products are evidence of our new manufacturing capabilities, and we have a multi-year pipeline of other exciting new innovations utilizing the new technology. Beyond the new bag technology, we're driving greater capital efficiency through our operational effectiveness program. We intend to, 1, get more out of existing lines, primarily through OE improvements.
Billy Cyr: They support better product quality, greater capacity, and new forms of innovation that can help us serve a broader range of consumer needs over time and attract new MVPs to the brand. When fully optimized, the new technology can produce more product per day than a conventional line, higher quality and more innovative products, and do it with greater yields. We've already begun to launch new innovation from these lines in a cross-section of stores, including Homestyle Creations Beef and Healthy Mixers.
Speaker #3: When fully optimized, the new technology can produce more product per day than a conventional line, deliver higher quality and more innovative products, and do it with greater yields.
Speaker #3: We've already begun to launch new innovation from these lines in a cross-section of stores, including homestyle creations beef and healthy mixers. These new products are evidence of our new manufacturing capabilities, and we have a multi-year pipeline of other exciting new innovations utilizing the new technology.
Billy Cyr: These new products are evidence of our new manufacturing capabilities, and we have a multi-year pipeline of other exciting new innovations utilizing the new technology. Beyond the new bag technology, we're driving greater capital efficiency through our operational effectiveness program. We intend to, 1, get more out of existing lines, primarily through OE improvements.
Speaker #3: Beyond the new bag technology, we're driving greater capital efficiency through our operational effectiveness program. We intend to, first, get more out of existing lines, primarily through OEE improvements.
Speaker #3: Two, get more out of existing sites, whether that be finding ways to optimize our network or add more lines or capabilities to our existing campuses.
Billy Cyr: 2, get more out of existing sites, whether that be finding ways to optimize our network or add more lines or capabilities to our existing campuses. 3, develop and implement new technologies in order to improve returns on capital investments, and we are pleased by the progress we've made to date. Given the strong operating performance of our existing lines, we have ample capacity to support projected demand this year and much of 2027. When needed, the next new bag line will utilize our new technology. This approach gives us the flexibility to continue advancing our technology, incorporating further improvements that we believe can enhance capital efficiency, quality, and cost before committing to additional new lines.
Billy Cyr: 2, get more out of existing sites, whether that be finding ways to optimize our network or add more lines or capabilities to our existing campuses. 3, develop and implement new technologies in order to improve returns on capital investments, and we are pleased by the progress we've made to date.
Speaker #3: And three, develop and implement new technologies in order to improve returns on capital investments. And we are pleased by the progress we've made to date.
Speaker #3: Given the strong operating performance of our existing lines, we have ample capacity to support projected demand this year and much of 2027. When needed, the next new bag line will utilize our new technology.
Billy Cyr: Given the strong operating performance of our existing lines, we have ample capacity to support projected demand this year and much of 2027. When needed, the next new bag line will utilize our new technology. This approach gives us the flexibility to continue advancing our technology, incorporating further improvements that we believe can enhance capital efficiency, quality, and cost before committing to additional new lines.
Speaker #3: This approach gives us the flexibility to continue advancing our technology, incorporating further improvements that we believe can enhance capital efficiency, quality, and cost before committing to additional new lines.
Speaker #3: We are very encouraged by the new opportunities for further improvement that this new technology enables and are committed to continue developing new generations of it so that we can further expand our leadership in manufacturing technology and drive innovation.
Billy Cyr: We are very encouraged by the new opportunities for further improvement that this new technology enables and are committed to continue developing new generations of it so that we can further expand our leadership in manufacturing technology and drive innovation. These three proof points give us confidence that we are building on our advantage position in the future pet food category that we believe will be a $10 billion category. Pet food is still attractive with long-term tailwinds that we believe will continue to increase our total addressable market to above 10 million MVP households and 36 million total households as younger generations are increasingly interested in feeding high-quality food to every member of their family, including their pets. We continue to gain market share and expect to capture a large portion of the future growth of the fresh frozen category as it continues to become more mainstream.
Billy Cyr: We are very encouraged by the new opportunities for further improvement that this new technology enables and are committed to continue developing new generations of it so that we can further expand our leadership in manufacturing technology and drive innovation. These three proof points give us confidence that we are building on our advantage position in the future pet food category that we believe will be a $10 billion category.
Speaker #3: These three proof points give us confidence that we are building on our advantage position in the we believe will be a $10 billion attractive, with long-term tailwinds that we believe will continue to increase our total addressable market to above $10 million MVP households in 36 million total households, as younger generations are increasingly interested member of their family, including their pets.
Billy Cyr: Pet food is still attractive with long-term tailwinds that we believe will continue to increase our total addressable market to above 10 million MVP households and 36 million total households as younger generations are increasingly interested in feeding high-quality food to every member of their family, including their pets.
Speaker #3: We continue to gain market share and expect to capture a large portion of the future growth of the fresh frozen category as it continues to become more mainstream.
Billy Cyr: We continue to gain market share and expect to capture a large portion of the future growth of the fresh frozen category as it continues to become more mainstream.
Speaker #3: We are navigating a more volatile consumer environment today than we would like. But we anticipated this, and we are doing so from a position of strength—with strong year-to-date growth, a more durable consumer franchise, expanding on the channel access, and a manufacturing platform that we believe is feeding high-quality food to every market, which is difficult to replicate.
Billy Cyr: We are navigating a more volatile consumer environment today than we would like, but we anticipated this, and we are doing so from a position of strength with strong year-to-date growth, a more durable consumer franchise, expanding on-the-channel access, and a manufacturing platform that we believe is difficult to replicate. With that, I will turn it over to John to walk through more details of our financial results.
Billy Cyr: We are navigating a more volatile consumer environment today than we would like, but we anticipated this, and we are doing so from a position of strength with strong year-to-date growth, a more durable consumer franchise, expanding on-the-channel access, and a manufacturing platform that we believe is difficult to replicate. With that, I will turn it over to John to walk through more details of our financial results.
Speaker #3: With that, I'll turn it over to John to walk through more details of our financial results.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Billy. And good morning, everyone. The second quarter results demonstrated strong sales and margin growth in the face of a more challenging economic backdrop.
John O'Connor: Thank you, Billy, and good morning, everyone. The Q2 results demonstrated strong sales and margin growth in the face of a more challenged economic backdrop. Net sales in the quarter were $305.6 million, up 15.5% year-over-year. Volume contributed 15.7% growth, partially offset by unfavorable price mix of 0.2%. We again had broad-based consumption growth across channels, and for NielsenIQ-measured dollars, we saw 12.9% growth in total U.S. pet retail plus with Costco. The delta between NielsenIQ growth of 12.9% and reported net sales of 15.5% was primarily driven by under-reported or unmeasured e-commerce sales, as well as an approximate 1-point benefit from the timing of shipments mid-year in 2025 that provided a softer comp for Q2 this year and a tougher comp into Q3. In the Q2, we delivered adjusted gross margin of 48.6%, a significant improvement from 46.9% in the prior year period.
John O'Connor: Thank you, Billy, and good morning, everyone. The Q2 results demonstrated strong sales and margin growth in the face of a more challenged economic backdrop. Net sales in the quarter were $305.6 million, up 15.5% year-over-year.
Speaker #1: Net sales in the quarter were $305.6 million. Up 15.5% year over year. Volume contributed 15.7% growth, partially offset by unfavorable price mix of 0.2%.
John O'Connor: Volume contributed 15.7% growth, partially offset by unfavorable price mix of 0.2%. We again had broad-based consumption growth across channels, and for NielsenIQ-measured dollars, we saw 12.9% growth in total U.S. pet retail plus with Costco.
Speaker #1: We again had broad-based consumption growth across channels, and for Nielsen-measured dollars, we saw 12.9% growth in total U.S. pet retail plus with Costco. The delta between Nielsen growth of 12.9% and reported net sales of 15.5% was primarily driven by underreported or unmeasured e-commerce sales, as well as an approximate 1-point benefit from the timing of shipments mid-year in 2025 that provided a softer comp for Q2 this year and a tougher comp in Q3.
John O'Connor: The delta between NielsenIQ growth of 12.9% and reported net sales of 15.5% was primarily driven by under-reported or unmeasured e-commerce sales, as well as an approximate 1-point benefit from the timing of shipments mid-year in 2025 that provided a softer comp for Q2 this year and a tougher comp into Q3. In the Q2, we delivered adjusted gross margin of 48.6%, a significant improvement from 46.9% in the prior year period.
Speaker #1: In the second quarter, we delivered an adjusted gross margin of 48.6%, a significant improvement from 46.9% in the prior year period. The 170 basis point increase was driven by strong leverage on planned expenses from higher sales and lower input costs, partially offset by disposal-related quality costs incurred in the commissioning of our new technology.
John O'Connor: The 170-basis point increase was driven by strong leverage on plan expenses from higher sales and lower input costs, partially offset by disposal-related quality costs incurred in the commissioning of our new technology. We are incredibly proud of our improved operating performance, especially as it came while we were implementing our new technology. The strong performance comes as a result of our continued focus on operational improvements and is a strong indicator of the progress we can make in this area. In the Q2, we had limited benefit from the new bag technology, which remains in the startup and optimization phase. As that technology scales and performance improves, we continue to expect it to become a more meaningful contributor to margin expansion over the next several quarters. Q2 adjusted SG&A was 31.4% of net sales, compared to 30.1% in the prior year period.
John O'Connor: The 170-basis point increase was driven by strong leverage on plan expenses from higher sales and lower input costs, partially offset by disposal-related quality costs incurred in the commissioning of our new technology. We are incredibly proud of our improved operating performance, especially as it came while we were implementing our new technology.
Speaker #1: We are incredibly proud of our improved operating performance, especially as it came while we were implementing our new technology. The strong performance comes as a result of our continued focus on operational improvements, and as a strong indicator of the progress we can make in this area.
John O'Connor: The strong performance comes as a result of our continued focus on operational improvements and is a strong indicator of the progress we can make in this area. In the Q2, we had limited benefit from the new bag technology, which remains in the startup and optimization phase.
Speaker #1: In the second quarter, we had limited benefit from the new bag technology, which remains in the startup and optimization phase. As that technology scales and performance improves, we continue to expect it to become a more meaningful contributor to margin expansion over the next several quarters.
John O'Connor: As that technology scales and performance improves, we continue to expect it to become a more meaningful contributor to margin expansion over the next several quarters. Q2 adjusted SG&A was 31.4% of net sales, compared to 30.1% in the prior year period.
Speaker #1: Second quarter adjusted SG&A was 31.4% of net sales, compared to 30.1% in the prior year period. This increase was primarily due to higher variable compensation and an increase in our logistics costs, which were $6.9% of net sales in the quarter, compared to $5.7% a year ago.
John O'Connor: This increase was primarily due to higher variable compensation and an increase in our logistics costs, which were 6.9% of net sales in the quarter, compared to 5.7% a year ago. This increase in logistics was primarily due to higher fuel costs and capacity pressures in the trucking market. Media spending was 13.4% of net sales in the quarter, down from 15% in the prior year period. Q2 net income was $19.5 million, compared to net income of $16.4 million in the prior year period. The increase in net income was primarily due to contributions from higher sales, favorable post-closing adjustments to the sale price of our equity investment in Ollie, and decreased non-recurring SG&A charges, partially offset by the increase in income tax expense related to the gain on the Ollie sale.
John O'Connor: This increase was primarily due to higher variable compensation and an increase in our logistics costs, which were 6.9% of net sales in the quarter, compared to 5.7% a year ago. This increase in logistics was primarily due to higher fuel costs and capacity pressures in the trucking market. Media spending was 13.4% of net sales in the quarter, down from 15% in the prior year period.
Speaker #1: This increase in logistics was primarily due to higher fuel costs and capacity pressures in the trucking market. Media spending was 13.4% of net sales in the quarter, down from 15% in the prior-year period.
Speaker #1: Second quarter net income was 19.5 million, compared to net income of 16.4 million in the prior year period. The increase in net income was primarily due to contributions from higher sales, favorable post-closing adjustments to the sale price of our equity investment in Ollie, and decreased non-recurring SG&A charges, partially offset by the increase in income tax expense related to the gain on the Ollie sale.
John O'Connor: Q2 net income was $19.5 million, compared to net income of $16.4 million in the prior year period. The increase in net income was primarily due to contributions from higher sales, favorable post-closing adjustments to the sale price of our equity investment in Ollie, and decreased non-recurring SG&A charges, partially offset by the increase in income tax expense related to the gain on the Ollie sale.
Speaker #1: Second quarter adjusted EBITDA was 52.2 million, compared to 44.4 million a year ago, an increase of approximately 18%. This growth was primarily driven by higher sales and gross profit, partially offset by higher adjusted SG&A expenses.
John O'Connor: Q2 adjusted EBITDA was $52.2 million, compared to $44.4 million a year ago, an increase of approximately 18%. This growth was primarily driven by higher sales and gross profit, partially offset by higher adjusted SG&A expenses. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 17.1% in Q2, compared to 16.8% in the prior year period. The year-over-year increase was primarily driven by improvements in adjusted gross margin, the cadence of media investments, and was partially offset by higher variable compensation and logistics costs in the quarter. Operating cash flow in the quarter was $44.4 million, growth of 31% compared to the prior year period, while capital spending was $29.7 million, representing free cash flow of $14.7 million, compared to $0.5 million a year ago.
John O'Connor: Q2 adjusted EBITDA was $52.2 million, compared to $44.4 million a year ago, an increase of approximately 18%. This growth was primarily driven by higher sales and gross profit, partially offset by higher adjusted SG&A expenses. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 17.1% in Q2, compared to 16.8% in the prior year period.
Speaker #1: Adjusted EBITDA margin was 17.1% in the second quarter, compared to 16.8% in the prior year period. The year-over-year increase was primarily driven by improvements in adjusted gross margin and the cadence of media investments, and was partially offset by higher variable compensation and logistics costs in the quarter.
John O'Connor: The year-over-year increase was primarily driven by improvements in adjusted gross margin, the cadence of media investments, and was partially offset by higher variable compensation and logistics costs in the quarter. Operating cash flow in the quarter was $44.4 million, growth of 31% compared to the prior year period, while capital spending was $29.7 million, representing free cash flow of $14.7 million, compared to $0.5 million a year ago.
Speaker #1: Operating cash flow in the quarter was $44.4 million, representing growth of 31% compared to the prior year period, while capital spending was $29.7 million, resulting in free cash flow of $14.7 million compared to $0.5 million a year ago.
Speaker #1: On May 21st, we announced a $150 million share repurchase authorization and, as the end of July, we had executed 86.5 million and repurchased 1.6 million shares, while ending the quarter with cash on hand of $350.8 million.
John O'Connor: On 21 May, we announced a $150 million share repurchase authorization. As of the end of July, we had executed $86.5 million and repurchased 1.6 million shares while ending the quarter with cash on hand of $350.8 million. Now turning to our updated guidance for 2026. We were encouraged with our performance during a challenging macro backdrop in Q2. We now expect net sales growth of 10% to 12%, compared to 8% to 11% previously. Our strong growth in H1 gives us confidence in our ability to navigate the challenging operating environment. However, we have a tougher comp in Q3 from the significant expansion in a large club customer and shift in ordering around the 4 July last year, which will impact our year-over-year growth by a little more than 2 points in Q3.
John O'Connor: On 21 May, we announced a $150 million share repurchase authorization. As of the end of July, we had executed $86.5 million and repurchased 1.6 million shares while ending the quarter with cash on hand of $350.8 million. Now turning to our updated guidance for 2026. We were encouraged with our performance during a challenging macro backdrop in Q2. We now expect net sales growth of 10% to 12%, compared to 8% to 11% previously.
Speaker #1: Now, turning to our updated guidance for 2026. We were encouraged by our performance during a challenging macro backdrop in Q2. We now expect net sales growth of 10% to 12%, compared to 8% to 11% previously.
Speaker #1: Our strong growth in the first half gives us confidence in our ability to navigate the challenging operating environment. However, we have a tougher comp in Q3 from the significant expansion in a large club customer and shift in ordering around the fourth of July last year, which will impact our year-over-year growth by a little more than two points in the third quarter.
John O'Connor: Our strong growth in H1 gives us confidence in our ability to navigate the challenging operating environment. However, we have a tougher comp in Q3 from the significant expansion in a large club customer and shift in ordering around the 4 July last year, which will impact our year-over-year growth by a little more than 2 points in Q3.
Speaker #1: We have also started to see total household penetration growth slow, given increased inflationary pressure on consumers. To achieve the low end of our sales guidance, we assume the macro environment stays the same as it is today, with little to no sequential sales or household penetration growth.
John O'Connor: We have also started to see total household penetration growth slow, given increased inflationary pressure on consumers. To achieve the low end of our sales guidance, we assume the macro environment stays the same as it is today, with little to no sequential sales or household penetration growth. To meet or exceed the high end of our guidance, we would need to see greater impact from our advertising and outperformance of our omnichannel efforts and additional distribution gains. From a category perspective, we would likely need to see stronger dog food category growth and/or resurgence in trade-up behaviors. At either end of our net sales range, we continue to expect to grow market share as we benefit from a generational shift from dry and wet food to fresh.
John O'Connor: We have also started to see total household penetration growth slow, given increased inflationary pressure on consumers. To achieve the low end of our sales guidance, we assume the macro environment stays the same as it is today, with little to no sequential sales or household penetration growth.
Speaker #1: To meet or exceed the high end of our guidance, we would need to see greater impact from our advertising, an outperformance of our omnichannel efforts, and additional distribution gains.
John O'Connor: To meet or exceed the high end of our guidance, we would need to see greater impact from our advertising and outperformance of our omnichannel efforts and additional distribution gains.
Speaker #1: And from a category perspective, we would likely need to see stronger dog food category growth and/or resurgence in trade-up behaviors. At either end of our net sales range, we continue to expect to grow market share as we benefit from a generational shift from dry and wet food to fresh.
John O'Connor: From a category perspective, we would likely need to see stronger dog food category growth and/or resurgence in trade-up behaviors. At either end of our net sales range, we continue to expect to grow market share as we benefit from a generational shift from dry and wet food to fresh.
Speaker #1: We now expect adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of $210 to $220 million, an increase of 7 to 12% year-over-year, compared to $205 to $215 million previously.
John O'Connor: We now expect adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of $210 to $220 million, an increase of 7% to 12% year-over-year, compared to $205 to $215 million previously. Adjusted EBITDA dollars and margin are still expected to improve sequentially for the remainder of the year. Media as a percent of sales for the year is still expected to be roughly in line with 2025 at approximately 12.5% of net sales. We now expect further elevated logistics costs for the remainder of the year, primarily due to increased fuel costs and a pressured market for trucking capacity. Given where costs are today, this updated guidance assumes an additional $8 million versus our original expectations.
John O'Connor: We now expect adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of $210 to $220 million, an increase of 7% to 12% year-over-year, compared to $205 to $215 million previously. Adjusted EBITDA dollars and margin are still expected to improve sequentially for the remainder of the year. Media as a percent of sales for the year is still expected to be roughly in line with 2025 at approximately 12.5% of net sales.
Speaker #1: Adjusted EBITDA dollars and margin are still expected to improve sequentially for the remainder of the year. Media as a percent of sales for the year is still expected to be roughly in line with 2025 at approximately We now expect further elevated logistics costs for the remainder of the year, primarily due to increased fuel costs and a pressured market for trucking capacity, given where costs are today, this updated guidance assumes an additional $8 million versus our original expectations.
John O'Connor: We now expect further elevated logistics costs for the remainder of the year, primarily due to increased fuel costs and a pressured market for trucking capacity. Given where costs are today, this updated guidance assumes an additional $8 million versus our original expectations.
Speaker #1: As we've said previously, 2026 is not necessarily indicative of the underlying operating leverage in our model, given the significant investments in omnichannel capabilities we are annualizing from 2025 and the reset in variable compensation we previously outlined.
John O'Connor: As we've said previously, 2026 is not necessarily indicative of the underlying operating leverage in our model, given the significant investments in omnichannel capabilities we are annualizing from 2025 and the reset in variable compensation we previously outlined. Beyond 2026, we still expect adjusted EBITDA growth to exceed net sales growth with an expectation of continued gross margin expansion and a more consistent variable compensation expense. We now anticipate adjusted gross margin to improve by approximately 100 to 150 basis points this year at the midpoint of our net sales guidance, compared to 50 to 100 basis points previously, primarily driven by improved plant leverage and partially offset by mix. As we have raised our sales outlook for the year, we have decided to add additional staffing starting in Q4 to support additional volumes.
John O'Connor: As we've said previously, 2026 is not necessarily indicative of the underlying operating leverage in our model, given the significant investments in omnichannel capabilities we are annualizing from 2025 and the reset in variable compensation we previously outlined.
Speaker #1: Beyond 2026, we still expect adjusted EBITDA growth to exceed net sales growth, with an expectation of continued gross margin expansion and a more consistent variable compensation expense.
John O'Connor: Beyond 2026, we still expect adjusted EBITDA growth to exceed net sales growth with an expectation of continued gross margin expansion and a more consistent variable compensation expense.
Speaker #1: We now anticipate adjusted gross margin to improve by approximately 100 to 150 basis points this year at the midpoint of our net sales guidance, compared to 50 to 100 basis points previously, primarily driven by improved plant leverage and partially offset by mix.
John O'Connor: We now anticipate adjusted gross margin to improve by approximately 100 to 150 basis points this year at the midpoint of our net sales guidance, compared to 50 to 100 basis points previously, primarily driven by improved plant leverage and partially offset by mix. As we have raised our sales outlook for the year, we have decided to add additional staffing starting in Q4 to support additional volumes.
Speaker #1: As we have raised our sales outlook for the year, we have decided to add additional staffing starting in the fourth quarter to support additional volumes.
Speaker #1: From an inflation standpoint, we are carefully watching for any higher costs to be sustained. To address any higher input and fuel costs, we are evaluating opportunities to offset through network efficiencies and product reformulations.
John O'Connor: From an inflation standpoint, we are carefully watching for any higher costs to be sustained. To address any higher input and fuel costs, we are evaluating opportunities to offset through network efficiencies and product reformulations. Capital expenditures are still projected to be approximately $150 million in 2026. As Billy mentioned earlier, we do not expect to spend any incremental capital on implementing new technology this year because our operating performance on our current base has exceeded expectations. Improved operating performance on the lines in place today and incremental staffing will also help defer future capital. Regarding our fiscal year 2027 targets, we are confident in our ability to deliver net sales growth well in excess of the US dog food category growth.
John O'Connor: From an inflation standpoint, we are carefully watching for any higher costs to be sustained. To address any higher input and fuel costs, we are evaluating opportunities to offset through network efficiencies and product reformulations. Capital expenditures are still projected to be approximately $150 million in 2026.
Speaker #1: Capital expenditures are still projected to be approximately $150 million in 2026. As Billy mentioned earlier, we do not expect to spend any incremental capital on implementing new technology this year, because our operating performance on our current base has exceeded expectations.
John O'Connor: As Billy mentioned earlier, we do not expect to spend any incremental capital on implementing new technology this year because our operating performance on our current base has exceeded expectations.
Speaker #1: Improved operating performance on the lines in place today and incremental staffing will also help defer future capital. Regarding our fiscal year 2027 targets, we are confident in our ability to deliver net sales growth well in excess of the US dog food category growth.
John O'Connor: Improved operating performance on the lines in place today and incremental staffing will also help defer future capital. Regarding our fiscal year 2027 targets, we are confident in our ability to deliver net sales growth well in excess of the US dog food category growth.
Speaker #1: We are raising our adjusted gross margin goal from at least 48% to now at least 49%, based on our significant gains achieved in our operating performance this year and the small benefit from the new technology we expect in 2026.
John O'Connor: We are raising our adjusted gross margin goal from at least 48% to now at least 49%, based on our significant gains achieved in our operating performance this year and the small benefit from the new technology we expect in 2026. The upper bound for our adjusted gross margin in 2027 will be determined by sales and a number of factors, including commodity inflation, any pricing actions we take, formulation changes, and other cost improvement activities. We also expect meaningful incremental contribution from running the new manufacturing technology at full rate, which we expect to reach during 2027. We are reiterating our 2027 adjusted EBITDA margin target of 20% to 22%. We expect leverage on G&A expenses and benefits from optimizing our logistics network. Our operating performance to date demonstrates our ability to achieve stronger adjusted gross margin and our ability to achieve our 2027 margin goals.
John O'Connor: We are raising our adjusted gross margin goal from at least 48% to now at least 49%, based on our significant gains achieved in our operating performance this year and the small benefit from the new technology we expect in 2026.
Speaker #1: The upper bound for our adjusted gross margin in 2027 will be determined by sales and a number of factors, including commodity inflation, any pricing actions we take, formulation changes, and other cost improvement activities.
John O'Connor: The upper bound for our adjusted gross margin in 2027 will be determined by sales and a number of factors, including commodity inflation, any pricing actions we take, formulation changes, and other cost improvement activities.
Speaker #1: We also expect meaningful incremental contribution from running the new manufacturing technology at full rate, which we expect to reach during 2027. We are reiterating our 2027 adjusted EBITDA margin target of 20% to 22%.
John O'Connor: We also expect meaningful incremental contribution from running the new manufacturing technology at full rate, which we expect to reach during 2027. We are reiterating our 2027 adjusted EBITDA margin target of 20% to 22%.
Speaker #1: We expect leverage on G&A expenses and benefits from optimizing our logistics network. Our operating performance to date demonstrates our ability to achieve stronger adjusted gross margin and our ability to achieve our 2027 margin goals.
John O'Connor: We expect leverage on G&A expenses and benefits from optimizing our logistics network. Our operating performance to date demonstrates our ability to achieve stronger adjusted gross margin and our ability to achieve our 2027 margin goals.
Speaker #1: To summarize, our ability to raise our outlook in this environment reinforces the resilience of our model and the benefit of having multiple growth drivers across channels, households, buy rate, and operating efficiency.
John O'Connor: To summarize, our ability to raise our outlook in this environment reinforces the resilience of our model and the benefit of having multiple growth drivers across channels, households, buy rate, and operating efficiency. We are pleased with our Q2 results and remain cautiously optimistic with our outlook for the remainder of the year, given the volatile macro environment. Looking ahead, we see significant opportunities for continued growth and remain focused on leveraging our scale, expertise, and innovation to reinforce our leadership position in fresh and frozen pet food. That concludes our overview. We will now be glad to answer your questions. As a reminder, we ask that you please focus your questions on the quarter, guidance, and the company's operations. Operator?
John O'Connor: To summarize, our ability to raise our outlook in this environment reinforces the resilience of our model and the benefit of having multiple growth drivers across channels, households, buy rate, and operating efficiency. We are pleased with our Q2 results and remain cautiously optimistic with our outlook for the remainder of the year, given the volatile macro environment.
Speaker #1: We are pleased with our second quarter results and remain cautiously optimistic with our outlook for the remainder of the year, given the volatile macro environment.
Speaker #1: Looking ahead, we see significant opportunities for continued growth and remain focused on leveraging our scale, expertise, and innovation to reinforce our leadership position in fresh and frozen pet food.
John O'Connor: Looking ahead, we see significant opportunities for continued growth and remain focused on leveraging our scale, expertise, and innovation to reinforce our leadership position in fresh and frozen pet food. That concludes our overview. We will now be glad to answer your questions. As a reminder, we ask that you please focus your questions on the quarter, guidance, and the company's operations. Operator?
Speaker #1: That concludes our overview. We will now be glad to answer your questions. As a reminder, we ask that you please focus your questions on the quarter, guidance, and the company's operations.
Speaker #1: Operator.
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Operator: To withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question comes from Robert Moskow from TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: And our first question comes from Robert Moscow from TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
Speaker #3: Hi. Thanks for the question. I guess my first question is about the commentary on household penetration slowing. Your chart shows that it still grew 5%.
Robert Moskow: Hi. Thanks for the question. I guess my first question is about the commentary on household penetration slowing. Your chart shows that it still grew 5%. I think that is a year-to-date number. Billy, maybe you could just tell us, did I get this right? Are you expecting household penetration to continue to grow at 5%? Or does the guidance assume that it kind of flattens out here and that the growth comes from the higher usage rates and the MVPs?
Robert Moskow: Hi. Thanks for the question. I guess my first question is about the commentary on household penetration slowing. Your chart shows that it still grew 5%. I think that is a year-to-date number. Billy, maybe you could just tell us, did I get this right? Are you expecting household penetration to continue to grow at 5%? Or does the guidance assume that it kind of flattens out here and that the growth comes from the higher usage rates and the MVPs?
Speaker #3: I think that's a year-to-date number. Billy, maybe you could just tell us, did I get this right, that are you still expecting household are you expecting household penetration to continue to grow at 5, or does the guidance assume that it kind of flattens out here and that the growth comes from the higher usage rates and the MVPs?
Speaker #4: Yeah, Rob. And Nikki might add to this, but let me just start with the comment that's in the prepared remarks. It was referring to a sequential growth rate in household penetration.
John O'Connor: Yeah, Rob, Nicki might add to this, let me just start with the comment that is in the prepared remarks was referring to a sequential growth rate in household penetration. You are right. It is a year-on-year, not year-to-date. It is a year-over-year on a 52-week basis that we are up 5%, and then the buying rate is up 7%. What we said in the commentary is that depending on the macro, you might see more buying rate than household penetration or more penetration than buying rate. It just depends on what the macro is doing. The low end of our guidance makes the assumption that on a sequential basis, we are roughly in the place that we are today from a household penetration perspective, and anything beyond that moves us up in the guidance range. Nicki, do you want to add anything to that?
Billy Cyr: Yeah, Rob, Nicki might add to this, let me just start with the comment that is in the prepared remarks was referring to a sequential growth rate in household penetration. You are right. It is a year-on-year, not year-to-date. It is a year-over-year on a 52-week basis that we are up 5%, and then the buying rate is up 7%.
Speaker #4: You're right. It's a year-on-year, not year-to-date. It's a year-over-year on a 52-week basis. So we're up 5%. And then the buying rate is up 7%.
Speaker #4: And what we said in the commentary is that depending on the macro, you might see more buying rate than household penetration, or more penetration than buying rate.
Billy Cyr: What we said in the commentary is that depending on the macro, you might see more buying rate than household penetration or more penetration than buying rate. It just depends on what the macro is doing.
Speaker #4: It just depends on what the macro is doing. But the low end of our guidance makes the assumption that, on a sequential basis, we're roughly in the place that we are today.
Billy Cyr: The low end of our guidance makes the assumption that on a sequential basis, we are roughly in the place that we are today from a household penetration perspective, and anything beyond that moves us up in the guidance range. Nicki, do you want to add anything to that?
Speaker #4: From a household penetration perspective, and anything beyond that moves us up in the guidance range. Ricky, do you want to add you want to add anything to that?
Speaker #5: Yeah, thanks, Billy. What I would say, Rob, is that we're very much focused on moving away a little bit from being a trial-based model to a much more durable consumer franchise.
Nicki Baty: Yeah. Thanks, Billy. What I would say, Rob, is that we are very much focused on moving away a little bit from being a trial-based model to a much more durable consumer franchise. You will start to see that rebalance between buy rate and household acquisition. In saying that, despite the macro environment, we actually were the fastest growing brand in terms of household acquisition over the last quarter. We still remain really pleased with the number of households that are coming in, and we are bringing in much higher quality households than what we have historically done.
Nicki Baty: Yeah. Thanks, Billy. What I would say, Rob, is that we are very much focused on moving away a little bit from being a trial-based model to a much more durable consumer franchise. You will start to see that rebalance between buy rate and household acquisition.
Speaker #5: So you will start to see that rebalance between buy rate and household acquisition. But in saying that, despite the macro environment, we actually were the fastest growing brand in terms of household acquisition over the last quarter.
Nicki Baty: In saying that, despite the macro environment, we actually were the fastest growing brand in terms of household acquisition over the last quarter. We still remain really pleased with the number of households that are coming in, and we are bringing in much higher quality households than what we have historically done.
Speaker #5: So we still remain really pleased with the number of households that are coming in, and we're bringing in much higher-quality households than what we've historically done.
Speaker #3: Okay. So if let's say household penetration kind of stabilizes, how does that relate to the 7 to 10 percent kind of algorithm that you've put out there?
Robert Moskow: Okay. Let's say household penetration kind of stabilizes. How does that relate to the 7% to 10% kind of algorithm that you've put out there? Can you still hit 7% to 10% through that higher usage rate in, I guess, maybe just a worst case scenario where household penetration kind of stays the same?
Robert Moskow: Okay. Let's say household penetration kind of stabilizes. How does that relate to the 7% to 10% kind of algorithm that you've put out there? Can you still hit 7% to 10% through that higher usage rate in, I guess, maybe just a worst case scenario where household penetration kind of stays the same?
Speaker #3: Do you need can you still hit 7 to 10 through that higher usage rate? And I guess maybe of just a worst-case scenario where household penetration kind of stays the same.
Speaker #4: Yeah, yes, absolutely, Rob. I mean, you saw we went up 7% on buy rate in the most recent data, and we'd expect to see that grow even higher. If you saw, the household penetration gains weren't as robust as they have been.
John O'Connor: Yes, absolutely, Rob. I mean, you saw we went up 7% on buy rate in the most recent data, and we'd expect to see that grow even higher if you saw the household penetration gains weren't as robust as they have been. Again, we feel very good about the model in total. We think the model's working. It does give us some optionality in terms of how much you get from penetration, how much you get from buy rate.
Billy Cyr: Yes, absolutely, Rob. I mean, you saw we went up 7% on buy rate in the most recent data, and we'd expect to see that grow even higher if you saw the household penetration gains weren't as robust as they have been. Again, we feel very good about the model in total. We think the model's working. It does give us some optionality in terms of how much you get from penetration, how much you get from buy rate.
Speaker #4: But again, we feel very good about the model in total. We think the model's working. It does give us some optionality in terms of how much you get from penetration and how much you get from buy rate.
Speaker #4: And what we're seeing right now is that the market is giving us more buy rate than penetration, but both of them work for us.
Billy Cyr: What we're seeing right now is that the market is giving us more buy rate than penetration. Both of them work for us.
Billy Cyr: What we're seeing right now is that the market is giving us more buy rate than penetration. Both of them work for us.
Speaker #2: Our next question comes from Peter Benedict from Baird. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: Our next question comes from Peter Benedict from Baird. Please go ahead.
Operator: Our next question comes from Peter Benedict from Baird. Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Oh, hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. First, maybe, Billy, an update on the fridge island test. I know you've got 33 out there.
Peter Benedict: Oh, hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks. Thanks for taking the question. First, maybe, Billy, an update on the Fridge Island test. I know you've got 33 out there. Sounds like 27 would be more the time we would see some expansion in those, if that happens. Just an update on kind of the performance there and what the decision tree is for getting more of those in market.
Peter Benedict: Oh, hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks. Thanks for taking the question. First, maybe, Billy, an update on the Fridge Island test. I know you've got 33 out there. Sounds like 27 would be more the time we would see some expansion in those, if that happens. Just an update on kind of the performance there and what the decision tree is for getting more of those in market.
Speaker #6: Sounds like 27 would be more of the time we would see some expansion in those. If that happens, just an update on kind of the performance there and what the decision tree is for getting more of those in market.
Speaker #4: Yeah, I'll let Nikki take that one.
Billy Cyr: Yeah, I'll let Nicki take that one.
Billy Cyr: Yeah, I'll let Nicki take that one.
Speaker #5: Hi, Peter. So we're really encouraged by the performance of the island units. As we said all along, this is a trial, and what I would link it to is it's a much stronger signal of retailers now seeing us go from proving out that a category exists and there's demand for it, to now leading a category.
Nicki Baty: Hi, Peter. We're really encouraged by the performance of the Island units. As we said all along, this is a trial, and what I would link it to is it's a much stronger signal of retailers now seeing us going from proving out that a category exists and there's demand for it to now leading a category. We will continue to get learnings from those Island units, we're not banking only on Island units being the unlock for future distribution and capacity. We're in many different discussions at the moment surrounding multiples expansion, bringing in new assortment, expanding capacity to make sure that we don't have out of stocks, in particular on our best-selling items. I see Island units as being a vehicle that will help enable a certain amount of growth that fits certain retail footprints.
Nicki Baty: Hi, Peter. We're really encouraged by the performance of the Island units. As we said all along, this is a trial, and what I would link it to is it's a much stronger signal of retailers now seeing us going from proving out that a category exists and there's demand for it to now leading a category. We will continue to get learnings from those Island units, we're not banking only on Island units being the unlock for future distribution and capacity.
Speaker #5: So, we will continue to get learnings from those island units, but we're not banking only on island units being the unlock for future distribution and capacity.
Speaker #5: We're in many different discussions at the moment surrounding multiples expansion, bringing in new assortment, and expanding capacity to make sure that we don't have out-of-stocks, particularly on our best-selling items.
Nicki Baty: We're in many different discussions at the moment surrounding multiples expansion, bringing in new assortment, expanding capacity to make sure that we don't have out of stocks, in particular on our best-selling items. I see Island units as being a vehicle that will help enable a certain amount of growth that fits certain retail footprints.
Speaker #5: So I see island units as being a vehicle that will help enable a certain amount of growth that fits certain retail footprints. But I see broader opportunities than that for us to gain distribution.
Nicki Baty: I see broader opportunities than that for us to gain distribution.
Nicki Baty: I see broader opportunities than that for us to gain distribution.
Speaker #6: Oh, that's helpful. Thanks, Nikki. And then my follow-up would be just around the gap between sales growth and the scanner growth. I know it was a couple of hundred basis points here in the last quarter, part of that was some timing stuff from a year ago.
Peter Benedict: Oh, that's helpful. Thanks, Nikki. My follow-up would be just around the gap between sales growth and the scanner growth. I know it was a couple hundred basis points here in the last quarter. Part of that was some timing stuff from a year ago. Can you expand on the unmeasured channel growth a little bit further? What's driving that and how durable you think that is as you look over the balance of the year and longer term? Thank you.
Peter Benedict: Oh, that's helpful. Thanks, Nikki. My follow-up would be just around the gap between sales growth and the scanner growth. I know it was a couple hundred basis points here in the last quarter. Part of that was some timing stuff from a year ago. Can you expand on the unmeasured channel growth a little bit further? What's driving that and how durable you think that is as you look over the balance of the year and longer term? Thank you.
Speaker #6: But can you expand on the unmeasured channel growth a little bit further? What's driving that, and how durable do you think that is as you look over the balance of the year and longer term?
Speaker #6: Thank you.
Speaker #4: Yeah, Peter, we think that the gap between the scanner growth and the reported net sales is about 100 basis points. That was related to last year's soft quarter.
Billy Cyr: Yeah, Peter. We think that the gap between the scanner growth and the reported net sales is about 100 basis points. That was related to last year's soft quarter. The remainder is what we would put under unmeasured. Included in that unmeasured is everything from some of the e-commerce, pure play e-commerce guys who may not be fully represented to our D2C business, as well as places like Tractor Supply, which are not included in that. That's the composition of it. How much of that is going to be continued as we go on throughout the year? We're very bullish about our e-commerce business. We feel very good about it, and we'd expect to see strong performance there. As you heard in our commentary, the business that we've got in the rural lifestyle retailer is doing well and going to be expanded. That will do well.
Billy Cyr: Yeah, Peter. We think that the gap between the scanner growth and the reported net sales is about 100 basis points. That was related to last year's soft quarter. The remainder is what we would put under unmeasured. Included in that unmeasured is everything from some of the e-commerce, pure play e-commerce guys who may not be fully represented to our D2C business, as well as places like Tractor Supply, which are not included in that.
Speaker #4: The remainder is what we would put under 'unmeasured.' And included in that unmeasured is everything from some of the e-commerce, pure-play e-commerce guys who may not be fully represented, to our D2C business, as well as places like Tractor Supply, which are not included in that.
Speaker #4: So that's the composition of it. How much of that is going to be continued as we go on throughout the year? We're very bullish about our e-commerce business.
Billy Cyr: That's the composition of it. How much of that is going to be continued as we go on throughout the year? We're very bullish about our e-commerce business. We feel very good about it, and we'd expect to see strong performance there. As you heard in our commentary, the business that we've got in the rural lifestyle retailer is doing well and going to be expanded. That will do well.
Speaker #4: We feel very good about it, and we'd expect to see strong performance there. As you heard in our commentary, the business that we've got in the rural lifestyle retailer is doing well and is going to be expanded.
Speaker #4: So, that will do well. We feel good about the unmeasured part. How big it will be in total remains to be seen, but we feel good about it in the absolute.
Billy Cyr: We feel good about the unmeasured part. How big it will be in total remains to be seen, but we feel good about it in the absolute.
Billy Cyr: We feel good about the unmeasured part. How big it will be in total remains to be seen, but we feel good about it in the absolute.
Speaker #2: Our next question comes from Rupesh Parikh from Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: Our next question comes from Rupesh Parikh from Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.
Operator: Our next question comes from Rupesh Parikh from Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Yeah, yeah. Just.
Speaker #8: Good morning, and thanks for taking my question. So just on advertising. So to the extent that you see upside in the business on the EBITDA side, for the balance of the year, would you consider ramping advertising to help sales growth for next year?
Rupesh Parikh: Good morning, and thanks for taking my question. Just on advertising, to the extent that you see upside in the business on the EBITDA side for the balance of the year, would you consider ramping advertising to help sales growth for next year? Just curious how you guys are thinking about potential increases in investments.
Rupesh Parikh: Good morning, and thanks for taking my question. Just on advertising, to the extent that you see upside in the business on the EBITDA side for the balance of the year, would you consider ramping advertising to help sales growth for next year? Just curious how you guys are thinking about potential increases in investments.
Speaker #8: So, just curious how you guys are thinking about potential increases in investments.
Speaker #4: Let me frame it broadly, and then Nikki, you'll make some comments. We are always looking at opportunities to invest in advertising, and there are obviously a lot of complications as we think about both capacity, as well as the profitability that we want to deliver and the cash generation.
Billy Cyr: Let me frame it broadly, Nicki will make some comments. We are always looking at opportunities to invest in the advertising, there's obviously a lot of complications as we think about both capacity as well as the profitability that we want to deliver and the cash generation. We feel like we're in a really good spot right now. We feel like we've got a strong balance sheet. We've got a lot of momentum. Our supply network is running really well. If we see good opportunities to get good returns, we would certainly consider them. We're obviously going to take into account the time of the year and what the competitive environment looks like. We would not hesitate to make investments if we thought we would get a good return on the investment. I don't know, Nicki, you want to add anything to that?
Billy Cyr: Let me frame it broadly, Nicki will make some comments. We are always looking at opportunities to invest in the advertising, there's obviously a lot of complications as we think about both capacity as well as the profitability that we want to deliver and the cash generation. We feel like we're in a really good spot right now. We feel like we've got a strong balance sheet. We've got a lot of momentum.
Speaker #4: But we feel like we're in a really good spot right now. We feel like we've got a strong balance sheet. We've got a lot of momentum.
Speaker #4: Our supply network is running really well. So if we see good opportunities to get good returns, we would certainly consider them. We're obviously going to take into account the time of the year and what the competitive environment looks like.
Billy Cyr: Our supply network is running really well. If we see good opportunities to get good returns, we would certainly consider them. We're obviously going to take into account the time of the year and what the competitive environment looks like. We would not hesitate to make investments if we thought we would get a good return on the investment. I don't know, Nicki, you want to add anything to that?
Speaker #4: But we would not hesitate to make investments if we thought we would get a good return on the investment. I know, Nikki, do you want to add anything to that?
Nicki Baty: Only that we continue to be very pleased with the results that we see from media. It's the main growth driver we have. As we always say, we don't price promote our products, media is the biggest demand generation activity we've got. We're very encouraged with how we're starting to work our advertising to continue to focus on broad awareness, but also getting increasingly better about targeting those higher value MVP households. That's really coming through in the sales growth. It's coming through in the millennial and Gen Z growth that we are seeing. We will keep moving forward with how we measure advertising to make sure we continue to get a very strong return on investment.
Nicki Baty: Only that we continue to be very pleased with the results that we see from media. It's the main growth driver we have. As we always say, we don't price promote our products, media is the biggest demand generation activity we've got. We're very encouraged with how we're starting to work our advertising to continue to focus on broad awareness, but also getting increasingly better about targeting those higher value MVP households.
Speaker #5: Only that we continue to be very pleased with the results that we see from media. It's the main growth driver we have as we always say.
Speaker #5: We don't promote. Price promote our product. So media is the biggest demand generation activity we've got. We're very encouraged with how we're starting to work our advertising to continue to focus on broad awareness, but also getting increasingly better about targeting those higher value MVP households.
Speaker #5: And that's really coming through in the sales growth. It's coming through in the millennial and Gen Z growth that we are seeing. And we will keep moving forward with how we measure advertising to make sure we continue to get a very strong return on investment.
Nicki Baty: That's really coming through in the sales growth. It's coming through in the millennial and Gen Z growth that we are seeing. We will keep moving forward with how we measure advertising to make sure we continue to get a very strong return on investment.
Speaker #8: Great. And then my follow-up question, just on the FY27 targets, so as we look at the adjusted EBITDA targets of 20 to 22 percent, what type of sales growth would you need to achieve the low end of that range?
Rupesh Parikh: Great. My follow-up question, just on the FY27 targets. As we look at the adjusted EBITDA targets of 20% to 22%, what type of sales growth would you need to achieve the low end of that range?
Rupesh Parikh: Great. My follow-up question, just on the FY27 targets. As we look at the adjusted EBITDA targets of 20% to 22%, what type of sales growth would you need to achieve the low end of that range?
Speaker #4: Daniel, I take that.
Billy Cyr: Don, you want to take that?
Billy Cyr: Don, you want to take that?
Speaker #6: Sure. Yeah, thanks, Rupesh. So consistent with what we've said before, if we were in the kind of high single-digit type range in terms of sales growth, we think that positions us among some other factors to be in the lower end of that range.
John O'Connor: Sure. Yeah. Thanks, Rupesh. Consistent with what we said before, if we were in the kind of high single-digit type range in terms of sales growth, we think that positions us, amongst some other factors, to be in the lower end of that range. As we got into low to mid double-digit, kind of teens range, that would help position us to get to the high end. As I outlined in my commentary, there's a number of other factors that we're working on besides just relying on sales growth to get us as far into that range as possible.
John O'Connor: Sure. Yeah. Thanks, Rupesh. Consistent with what we said before, if we were in the kind of high single-digit type range in terms of sales growth, we think that positions us, amongst some other factors, to be in the lower end of that range.
Speaker #6: And as we got into kind of low to mid double-digit kind of teens range, that would help position us to get to the high end.
John O'Connor: As we got into low to mid double-digit, kind of teens range, that would help position us to get to the high end. As I outlined in my commentary, there's a number of other factors that we're working on besides just relying on sales growth to get us as far into that range as possible.
Speaker #6: But as I outlined in my commentary, there's a number of other factors that we're working on besides just relying on sales growth to get us as far into that range as possible.
Speaker #2: And our next question comes from Tom Palmer from JPMorgan. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: Our next question comes from Tom Palmer from JPMorgan. Please go ahead.
Operator: Our next question comes from Tom Palmer from JPMorgan. Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Good morning. Thanks for the question. Maybe just first to follow up on the gross margin and EBITDA outlook for next year. You took it up by 100 basis points gross margin.
Tom Palmer: Good morning. Thanks for the question. Maybe just first to follow up on the gross margin and EBITDA outlook for next year. You took it up by 100 basis points gross margin. How much of that is related to the new lines versus other items? I know they're kind of still ramping as we move into next year, and the ultimate impact is kind of 100 basis points. I'm just trying to figure out if the 100 is entirely the new lines versus maybe some other considerations.
Tom Palmer: Good morning. Thanks for the question. Maybe just first to follow up on the gross margin and EBITDA outlook for next year. You took it up by 100 basis points gross margin. How much of that is related to the new lines versus other items? I know they're kind of still ramping as we move into next year, and the ultimate impact is kind of 100 basis points. I'm just trying to figure out if the 100 is entirely the new lines versus maybe some other considerations.
Speaker #6: How much of that is related to the new lines versus other items? I know they're kind of still ramping as we move into next year and the ultimate impact.
Speaker #6: Is kind of 100 basis points. So I'm just trying to figure out if the 100 is entirely the new lines versus maybe some other considerations.
Speaker #4: Yeah. Hey, thanks, Tom. It's actually the inverse of that. It's very little of the new technology that is contributing to our updated view on adjusted gross margin for 2027.
John O'Connor: Yeah. Hey, thanks, Tom. It's actually the inverse of that. It's very little of the new technology that is contributing to our updated view on adjusted gross margin for 2027. If you look at our performance year to date, we've delivered 150 basis points of adjusted gross margin improvement, and that is entirely from our operating performance, with limited to no benefit so far from the new technology. As we get through the rest of the year, we expect about 25 basis points for 2026, and that's the amount that we've rolled forward into 2027. Remember, the way we've structured the guidance for 2027 at this point is that as a floor for our gross margin next year at greater than 49%. Continued improvement in our operating performance will tell us how much farther above that 49% we can go.
John O'Connor: Yeah. Hey, thanks, Tom. It's actually the inverse of that. It's very little of the new technology that is contributing to our updated view on adjusted gross margin for 2027. If you look at our performance year to date, we've delivered 150 basis points of adjusted gross margin improvement, and that is entirely from our operating performance, with limited to no benefit so far from the new technology.
Speaker #4: If you look at our performance year to date, we've delivered 150 basis points of adjusted gross margin improvement, and that is entirely from our operating performance with limited to no benefit so far from the new technology.
Speaker #4: So as we get through the rest of the year, we expect about 25 basis points for 2026. And that's the amount that we've rolled forward into 2027.
John O'Connor: As we get through the rest of the year, we expect about 25 basis points for 2026, and that's the amount that we've rolled forward into 2027. Remember, the way we've structured the guidance for 2027 at this point is that as a floor for our gross margin next year at greater than 49%. Continued improvement in our operating performance will tell us how much farther above that 49% we can go.
Speaker #4: But remember, the way we've structured the guidance for 2027 at this point is that is a floor for our gross margin next year at greater than 49%.
Speaker #4: So continued improvement and our operating performance will tell us how much farther above that 49 we can go. And then in addition, when we get to that full realization of that annualized 100 basis points of margin improvement from the new technology, that will also help push us even higher above that 49% floor.
John O'Connor: In addition, when we get to that full realization of that annualized 100 basis points of margin improvement from the new technology, that will also help push us even higher above that 49% floor.
John O'Connor: In addition, when we get to that full realization of that annualized 100 basis points of margin improvement from the new technology, that will also help push us even higher above that 49% floor.
Speaker #6: Great. Thanks for all that. And then next, just on the input cost environment, there was a comment in the prepared remarks about addressing higher input costs and fuel costs.
Tom Palmer: Thanks for all that. Next, just on the input cost environment, there was a comment in the prepared remarks about addressing higher input costs and fuel costs, mainly network efficiencies and product reformulations. I think later in the call there was reference to potential pricing. I guess, how are you thinking about kind of the decision-making process here around pricing, and when does maybe the input cost environment matter enough to really consider that more seriously?
Tom Palmer: Thanks for all that. Next, just on the input cost environment, there was a comment in the prepared remarks about addressing higher input costs and fuel costs, mainly network efficiencies and product reformulations.
Speaker #6: Mainly network efficiencies and product reformulations. I think later in the call, there was reference to potential pricing. I guess, how are you thinking about kind of the decision-making process here around pricing and when does maybe the input cost environment matter enough to really consider that more seriously?
Tom Palmer: I think later in the call there was reference to potential pricing. I guess, how are you thinking about kind of the decision-making process here around pricing, and when does maybe the input cost environment matter enough to really consider that more seriously?
Speaker #4: Yeah, let me take a shot at that and John and Nikki might have something to add to it. But I would just start with you have to recall that our business model is different than most other CPG companies where we don't do promotion.
John O'Connor: Let me take a shot at that, and Jon and Nikki might have something to add to it. I would just start with, you have to recall that our business model is different than most other CPG companies, where we don't do promotion. As a result, we don't have the ability to move up and down on pricing as readily as others. Whenever we make a move to take a higher price, it sticks and it becomes, in essence, permanent. We want to see that the cost structure has permanently moved upward. As you can all see that oil prices have gone all over the place, up and down in the last, call it six months.
Billy Cyr: Let me take a shot at that, and Jon and Nikki might have something to add to it. I would just start with, you have to recall that our business model is different than most other CPG companies, where we don't do promotion. As a result, we don't have the ability to move up and down on pricing as readily as others.
Speaker #4: So as a result, we don't have the ability to move up and down on pricing as readily as others. So whenever we make a move to take a higher price, it sticks and it becomes in essence permanent.
Billy Cyr: Whenever we make a move to take a higher price, it sticks and it becomes, in essence, permanent. We want to see that the cost structure has permanently moved upward. As you can all see that oil prices have gone all over the place, up and down in the last, call it six months.
Speaker #4: So we want to see that the cost structure has permanently moved upward. As you can all see that oil prices have gone all over the place up and down in the last, call it, six months.
Speaker #4: And so we want to get a good handle on where our logistics costs are, for example, or other input costs are, for example, before we make a decision that would be fairly permanent but we are not afraid to take pricing if we think we need to because we believe we have pricing power.
John O'Connor: We want to get a good handle on where our logistics costs are, for example, or other input costs are, for example, before we make a decision that would be fairly permanent. We are not afraid to take pricing if we think we need to, because we believe we have pricing power. We think we're in a position where our products are high-value products that consumers enjoy, and if we need to take pricing because there's broad scale inflation, we would not hesitate to do that. I don't know, do you guys want to add anything to that?
Billy Cyr: We want to get a good handle on where our logistics costs are, for example, or other input costs are, for example, before we make a decision that would be fairly permanent. We are not afraid to take pricing if we think we need to, because we believe we have pricing power.
Speaker #4: We think we're in a position where our products are high-value products that consumers enjoy. And if we need to take pricing because there's broad scale inflation, we would not hesitate to do that.
Billy Cyr: We think we're in a position where our products are high-value products that consumers enjoy, and if we need to take pricing because there's broad scale inflation, we would not hesitate to do that. I don't know, do you guys want to add anything to that?
Speaker #4: I don't know. Do you guys want to add anything to that?
Speaker #6: No, thanks everybody.
Jon Andersen: No.
John O'Connor: No.
Jon Andersen: Not at all, Bill.
Jon Andersen: Not at all, Bill.
Speaker #2: And our next question comes from John Anderson from William Blair. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: Our next question comes from Jon Andersen from William Blair. Please go ahead.
Operator: Our next question comes from Jon Andersen from William Blair. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Oh, hi. Thanks for the questions. I had two questions. A lot of them both in right now. One is just related to competition. You talked about some of the main competitors.
Jon Andersen: Oh, hi. Thanks for the questions. I had two questions. I'll lob them both in right now. One is just related to competition. You talked about some of the main competitors. I'm kind of curious what you're seeing, if anything, new from customers or channels as it relates to some of these offerings like freeze-dried, air-dried products, or kibble plus, if that's something you see as viable formats that are also winning share against traditional kibble. The second question I had is, there've been quite a few leadership changes at the company for the past couple of years, and I'm just trying to get a sense for where you kind of feel things are in terms of the team and that process and anything we should be kind of thinking about going forward. Thank you.
Jon Andersen: Oh, hi. Thanks for the questions. I had two questions. I'll lob them both in right now. One is just related to competition. You talked about some of the main competitors. I'm kind of curious what you're seeing, if anything, new from customers or channels as it relates to some of these offerings like freeze-dried, air-dried products, or kibble plus, if that's something you see as viable formats that are also winning share against traditional kibble.
Speaker #7: I'm kind of curious what you're seeing if anything new from customers or channels as it relates to some of these offerings like freeze-dried, air-dried products or kibble plus if that's something you see as a viable formats that are also winning share against traditional kibble.
Speaker #7: And then the second question I had is there have been quite a few leadership changes at the company for the past couple of years.
Jon Andersen: The second question I had is, there've been quite a few leadership changes at the company for the past couple of years, and I'm just trying to get a sense for where you kind of feel things are in terms of the team and that process and anything we should be kind of thinking about going forward. Thank you.
Speaker #7: And I'm just trying to get a sense for where you kind of feel things are in terms of the team and that process and anything we should be kind of thinking about going forward.
Speaker #7: Thank you.
Speaker #4: Yeah. Let me take a make a comment on the competition. And Nikki might add to it. And then I'll touch on the I'll touch on the talent as well.
John O'Connor: Yeah. Let me make a comment on the competition, and Nicki might add to it, then I'll touch on the talent as well. Actually, let me start with the talent. As you can imagine, we're a growing company, so we're constantly adding new talent. One of the benefits of the added scale that we've created is that we can get a higher and higher level of expertise and specialization in areas where we may not have had it before. We've done quite a bit of that, and we'd expect to continue to do that. The skills that are required to run the company of a scale that we are are different than the skills that were required to run the company that we were five or 10 years ago. We're taking advantage of the opportunities to add talent where we need to.
Billy Cyr: Yeah. Let me make a comment on the competition, and Nicki might add to it, then I'll touch on the talent as well. Actually, let me start with the talent. As you can imagine, we're a growing company, so we're constantly adding new talent. One of the benefits of the added scale that we've created is that we can get a higher and higher level of expertise and specialization in areas where we may not have had it before.
Speaker #4: Actually, let me start with the talent. As you can imagine, we're a growing company. So we're constantly adding new talent. One of the benefits of the added scale that we've created is that we can get higher and higher level of expertise and specialization in areas where we may not have had it before.
Speaker #4: And we've done quite a bit of that. And we'd expect to continue to do that. The skills that are required to run the company of a scale that we are are different than the skills that were required to run the company that we were 5 or 10 years opportunities to add talent where we need to.
Billy Cyr: We've done quite a bit of that, and we'd expect to continue to do that. The skills that are required to run the company of a scale that we are are different than the skills that were required to run the company that we were five or 10 years ago. We're taking advantage of the opportunities to add talent where we need to.
Speaker #4: It's going to be an evolution. You're going to see it. It's going to continue to we're going to continue to add talent as you go, and you should expect to see that.
John O'Connor: It's going to be an evolution. You're going to see it. We're going to continue to add talent as you go, you should expect to see that. On the competition question, let me frame it, Nicki can talk more about the specifics. We feel really good about what the results in the market are telling us about the strength of our business. We've seen a wide range of people try to compete with us with a variety of frozen forms, dry forms. They've tried to do it in different channels like D2C. They're now trying to do it through the vet channel, trying to go through mainstream channels. Despite all those different efforts, we still end up being one of the larger players in this space, we don't think people are able to touch the quality or the cost structure that we've got.
Billy Cyr: It's going to be an evolution. You're going to see it. We're going to continue to add talent as you go, you should expect to see that. On the competition question, let me frame it, Nicki can talk more about the specifics. We feel really good about what the results in the market are telling us about the strength of our business. We've seen a wide range of people try to compete with us with a variety of frozen forms, dry forms.
Speaker #4: On the competition question, let me frame it and Nikki can talk more about the specifics. But we feel really good about what the results in the market are telling us about the strength of our business.
Speaker #4: We've seen a wide range of people try to compete with us with a variety of frozen forms, dry forms. They've tried to do it in different channels like D2C.
Billy Cyr: They've tried to do it in different channels like D2C. They're now trying to do it through the vet channel, trying to go through mainstream channels. Despite all those different efforts, we still end up being one of the larger players in this space, we don't think people are able to touch the quality or the cost structure that we've got.
Speaker #4: They're now trying to do it through the vet channel, trying to go through mainstream channels. And despite all those different efforts, we still end up being one of the larger players in this space.
Speaker #4: And we don't think people are able to touch the quality or the cost structure that we've got. And it leaves us in a very strong position.
John O'Connor: It leaves us in a very strong position. We think we have preferred products, the ability to produce preferred products. We've built an incredibly strong brand around it. We have an omni-channel capability that allows us to reach channels that others cannot reach. People are much more singularly focused on channels. Our cost structure, we believe, continues to get increasingly more competitive and is in a strong advantage position today. No matter who all these innovations are or where they're coming from, we feel good about our ability to compete over the long haul. You should also know, going back to the talent question, we're going to continue to invest in more talent to extend that advantage as much as we possibly can. I don't know, Nicki, you want to add anything to the competitive environment?
Billy Cyr: It leaves us in a very strong position. We think we have preferred products, the ability to produce preferred products. We've built an incredibly strong brand around it. We have an omni-channel capability that allows us to reach channels that others cannot reach. People are much more singularly focused on channels. Our cost structure, we believe, continues to get increasingly more competitive and is in a strong advantage position today.
Speaker #4: We think we have preferred products, the ability to produce preferred products. We've built an incredibly strong brand around it. We have an omnichannel capability that allows us to reach channels that others cannot reach.
Speaker #4: So people are much more singularly focused on channels. And our cost structure, we believe, continues to get increasingly more competitive and is in a strong advantage position today.
Speaker #4: So, no matter who all these innovations are or where they're coming from, we feel good about our ability to compete over the long haul. But you should also know, going back to the talent question, we're going to continue investing more in talent to extend that advantage as much as we possibly can.
Billy Cyr: No matter who all these innovations are or where they're coming from, we feel good about our ability to compete over the long haul. You should also know, going back to the talent question, we're going to continue to invest in more talent to extend that advantage as much as we possibly can. I don't know, Nicki, you want to add anything to the competitive environment?
Speaker #4: I don't know, Nikki, you want to add anything to the competitive environment?
Speaker #3: Sure. Well, thanks, Billy. What I would say, John, is that as we continue to see consumers move away from more traditional food formats of kibble and wet, we continue to see that correlate with less and less distribution and space available in traditional retailers.
Nicki Baty: Sure. Thanks, Billy. What I would say, Jon, is that as we continue to see consumers move away from more traditional food formats of kibble and wet, we continue to see that correlate with less and less distribution and space available in traditional retailers. We're starting to see that we're really becoming a bit more the beneficiary of that, as you can see from the distribution point gains that we're making and why we strongly believe that our big opportunity is much more around expansion in the existing retail formats.
Nicki Baty: Sure. Thanks, Billy. What I would say, Jon, is that as we continue to see consumers move away from more traditional food formats of kibble and wet, we continue to see that correlate with less and less distribution and space available in traditional retailers.
Speaker #3: And we're starting to see that we're really becoming a bit more of the the beneficiary of that. As you can see from the distribution point gains that we're making and why we strongly believe that our big opportunity is much more around expansion in the existing retail formats.
Nicki Baty: We're starting to see that we're really becoming a bit more the beneficiary of that, as you can see from the distribution point gains that we're making and why we strongly believe that our big opportunity is much more around expansion in the existing retail formats.
Speaker #7: Thanks. That's helpful.
Jon Andersen: Thanks. That's helpful.
Jon Andersen: Thanks. That's helpful.
Speaker #2: And the next question comes from Eric Sarota from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: The next question comes from Eric Serotta from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from Eric Serotta from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Great. Thanks for the question. I wanted to come back to the competition side back in early June. You showed us some helpful data in terms of your performance and velocity at a large club retailer.
Eric Serotta: Great. Thanks for the question. Wanted to come back to the competition side. Back in early June, you showed us some helpful data in terms of your performance and velocity at a large club retailer since some competition came in. Any update you can provide for the past eight weeks or so? Then maybe it's a little bit early, but any initial read or forward thoughts in terms of competition in especially pet channel, and just broader competition in grocery mass from Blue Buffalo, which I guess we're coming on nine months now. Thank you.
Eric Serotta: Great. Thanks for the question. Wanted to come back to the competition side. Back in early June, you showed us some helpful data in terms of your performance and velocity at a large club retailer since some competition came in.
Speaker #6: Since some competition came in, any update you can provide sort of for the past eight weeks or so? And then maybe it's a little bit early, but any initial read or forward thoughts in terms of competition in especially pet channel?
Eric Serotta: Any update you can provide for the past eight weeks or so? Then maybe it's a little bit early, but any initial read or forward thoughts in terms of competition in especially pet channel, and just broader competition in grocery mass from Blue Buffalo, which I guess we're coming on nine months now. Thank you.
Speaker #6: And just broader competition in grocery mass from Blue Buffalo, which I guess we're coming on nine months now. Thank you.
Speaker #4: Yeah. Nikki will take that.
Billy Cyr: Yeah. Nicki will take that.
Billy Cyr: Yeah. Nicki will take that.
Speaker #3: Great. Thanks. Thanks, Eric. So look, I think in terms of I take a step back and think a little bit about where our runway is for growth.
Nicki Baty: Great. Thanks, Eric. Look, I take a step back and think a little bit about where our runway is for growth. We're only 4.3% market share at the moment within the category. Despite maybe competition coming into fresh and frozen, we still believe there's an incredibly big opportunity ahead for us. In terms of what we're seeing, as we just posted in our Q2 results, we've had very strong sales performance despite a number of competitive entries coming in. We remain very convinced and encouraged by the model that we're following at the moment. We've not really seen much by way of impact to Freshpet's growth trajectory. We've not seen anything by way of holding back on distribution gains with competition coming in.
Nicki Baty: Great. Thanks, Eric. Look, I take a step back and think a little bit about where our runway is for growth. We're only 4.3% market share at the moment within the category. Despite maybe competition coming into fresh and frozen, we still believe there's an incredibly big opportunity ahead for us.
Speaker #3: We're only 4.3% market share at the moment within the category. So despite maybe competition coming into fresh and frozen, we still believe there's an incredibly big opportunity ahead for us.
Speaker #3: In terms of what we're seeing as we just posted in our Q2 results, we've had very, very strong sales performance despite a number of competitive entries coming in.
Nicki Baty: In terms of what we're seeing, as we just posted in our Q2 results, we've had very strong sales performance despite a number of competitive entries coming in. We remain very convinced and encouraged by the model that we're following at the moment. We've not really seen much by way of impact to Freshpet's growth trajectory. We've not seen anything by way of holding back on distribution gains with competition coming in.
Speaker #3: And we remain very convinced and encouraged by the model that we're following at the moment. So we've not really seen much by way of impact to fresh pets growth trajectory.
Speaker #3: We've not seen anything by way of holding back on distribution gains with competition coming in. And as I said before, we're seeing more and more retailers start to reimagine what the category looks like and opening up space for some of these new formats.
Nicki Baty: As I said before, we're seeing more and more retailers start to reimagine what the category looks like and opening up space for some of these new formats. As competition comes into our space, we do see it as more of a validation of really where the long-term consumer demand is going.
Nicki Baty: As I said before, we're seeing more and more retailers start to reimagine what the category looks like and opening up space for some of these new formats. As competition comes into our space, we do see it as more of a validation of really where the long-term consumer demand is going.
Speaker #3: So as competition comes into our space, we do see it as more of a validation of really where we're going.
Speaker #7: Let me just add in the specific in your question, Eric, I think in June, we updated the market and said that our business in that club retailer is up more than 40% over the last however many weeks we were recording then.
Billy Cyr: Let me just add in, the specific in your question, Eric, I think in June, we updated the market and said that our business in that club retailer is up more than 40% over the last however many weeks we were quoting then. It continues to be above 40%. We're continuing at that rate, and we have an over 80 share of the fresh market in that retailer. We feel really good about the position that we've got and how well-insulated we are.
Billy Cyr: Let me just add in, the specific in your question, Eric, I think in June, we updated the market and said that our business in that club retailer is up more than 40% over the last however many weeks we were quoting then. It continues to be above 40%. We're continuing at that rate, and we have an over 80 share of the fresh market in that retailer. We feel really good about the position that we've got and how well-insulated we are.
Speaker #7: It continues to be above 40%. We're continuing at that rate, and we have an over 80 share of the fresh market in that retailer.
Speaker #7: So we feel really good about the position that we've got and how well insulated we are.
Speaker #6: Great. And in terms of additional or sort of velocities on some of the new distribution that you've added, could you come back to sort of your expectations for velocities at the rural lifestyle retailer versus the overall business?
Eric Serotta: Great. In terms of additional or sort of velocities on some of the new distribution that you've added, could you come back to sort of your expectations for velocities at the Rural Lifestyle retailer versus the overall business?
Eric Serotta: Great. In terms of additional or sort of velocities on some of the new distribution that you've added, could you come back to sort of your expectations for velocities at the Rural Lifestyle retailer versus the overall business?
Speaker #4: Yeah. Nikki will take that.
Billy Cyr: Nicki will take that.
Billy Cyr: Nicki will take that.
Speaker #3: Sure. Thanks, Eric. It takes time, I think, to really build awareness that we're present now in a number of those stores. And that's what we've been working hard on.
Nicki Baty: Sure. Thanks, Eric. It takes time, I think, to really build awareness that we're present now in a number of those stores, and that's what we've been working hard on. We're very encouraged with the results that we're seeing week on week with the growth coming through. As obviously is our partner in this space, which is why they've chosen to accelerate really the rollout into more stores. We're learning together. There's a number of pieces within the assortment that do particularly well with the shopper profile in that environment, and we do see it as nice incremental business for us serving our MVP shopper in a new destination.
Nicki Baty: Sure. Thanks, Eric. It takes time, I think, to really build awareness that we're present now in a number of those stores, and that's what we've been working hard on. We're very encouraged with the results that we're seeing week on week with the growth coming through.
Speaker #3: We're very encouraged with the results that we're seeing week on week. With the growth coming through, as obviously is our partner in this space, which is why they've chosen to accelerate really the rollout into more stores.
Nicki Baty: As obviously is our partner in this space, which is why they've chosen to accelerate really the rollout into more stores. We're learning together. There's a number of pieces within the assortment that do particularly well with the shopper profile in that environment, and we do see it as nice incremental business for us serving our MVP shopper in a new destination.
Speaker #3: We're learning together there's a number of pieces within the assortment that do particularly well with the shopper profile. In that environment. And we do see it as nice incremental business for us, serving our MVP shopper.
Speaker #3: In a new destination.
Speaker #6: Great. Thanks so much. We'll pass it on.
Eric Serotta: Great. Thanks so much. I'll pass it on.
Eric Serotta: Great. Thanks so much. I'll pass it on.
Speaker #2: The next question comes from Michael Laverry from Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: The next question comes from Michael Lavery from Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from Michael Lavery from Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Thank you. Good morning. You called out really strong e-commerce growth or digital purchases. And just was curious if you could give a sense of how incremental that is versus shifts from brick-and-mortar and how that channel to reach new households and consumers as well.
Michael Lavery: Thank you. Good morning. You called out really strong e-commerce growth for digital purchases, and just was curious if you could give a sense of how incremental that is versus shifts from brick and mortar, and how much you can develop that channel to reach new households and consumers as well.
Michael Lavery: Thank you. Good morning. You called out really strong e-commerce growth for digital purchases, and just was curious if you could give a sense of how incremental that is versus shifts from brick and mortar, and how much you can develop that channel to reach new households and consumers as well.
Speaker #4: Nikki, you want to take that?
Billy Cyr: Nicki, you want to take that?
Billy Cyr: Nicki, you want to take that?
Speaker #3: Sure. I think one of the parts for us that we know is very incremental is when we look at buy rate, and we look at the average household consumption over the year. We see a marked step change if that pet parent is buying online versus buying in the in-store environment.
Nicki Baty: Sure. I think one of the parts for us that we know is very incremental is when we look at buy rate and we look at the average household consumption over the year, we see a marked step change if that pet parent is buying online versus buying in the in-store environment. We know that when that purchase is happening repeatedly online, we're building a more durable franchise. That's the first part that we know is very incremental overall to our business. Now, as we've talked a little bit about 78% of our e-commerce business is coming out of our existing fridge network. There is part of that business clearly where the shopper is choosing to either purchase in store or purchase online. Less of that is incremental in terms of new households coming through.
Nicki Baty: Sure. I think one of the parts for us that we know is very incremental is when we look at buy rate and we look at the average household consumption over the year, we see a marked step change if that pet parent is buying online versus buying in the in-store environment. We know that when that purchase is happening repeatedly online, we're building a more durable franchise. That's the first part that we know is very incremental overall to our business.
Speaker #3: So we know that when that purchase is happening repeatedly online, we're building a more durable franchise. So that's the first part that we know is very incremental overall to our business.
Speaker #3: Now, as we've talked a little bit about 78% of our e-commerce business is coming out of our existing fridge network. So there is part of that business clearly where the shopper is choosing to either purchase in-store or purchase online.
Nicki Baty: Now, as we've talked a little bit about 78% of our e-commerce business is coming out of our existing fridge network. There is part of that business clearly where the shopper is choosing to either purchase in store or purchase online. Less of that is incremental in terms of new households coming through.
Speaker #3: Less of that is incremental in terms of new households coming through. But as Billy mentioned earlier, there's also part of our growth that is coming through new opportunities, whether it's our direct-to-consumer business, whether it's other online retailers.
Nicki Baty: As Bill mentioned earlier, there's also part of our growth that is coming through new opportunities, whether it's our direct-to-consumer business, whether it's other online retailers. Within this, we're making very big incremental gains. We believe in our omni-channel strategy. More access overall, especially through online purchasing, is absolutely delivering more spend and ultimately more sales for Freshpet.
Nicki Baty: As Bill mentioned earlier, there's also part of our growth that is coming through new opportunities, whether it's our direct-to-consumer business, whether it's other online retailers. Within this, we're making very big incremental gains. We believe in our omni-channel strategy. More access overall, especially through online purchasing, is absolutely delivering more spend and ultimately more sales for Freshpet.
Speaker #3: And within this, we're making very big incremental gains. So we believe in our omnichannel strategy more access overall, especially through online purchasing, is absolutely delivering more spend and ultimately more sales for fresh pet.
Speaker #7: I would just add to that is we're seeing the biggest gains or biggest benefits for us when we're opening distribution in outlets or channels that cater towards larger purchases, meaning club retailers where the consumers inherently buying a larger quantity, whether it's somebody who buys on a subscription from our D2C business, but places where people buy in larger quantities.
Billy Cyr: I would just add to that is we're seeing the biggest gains or biggest benefits for us when we're opening distribution in outlets or channels that cater towards larger purchases. Meaning, club retailers where the consumer's inherently buying a larger quantity, whether it's somebody who buys on a subscription from our D2C business. Places where people buy in larger quantities, and so the act of acquiring a consumer turns into a much higher revenue source. That's a big gain for us, and we're getting a lot of return from that.
Billy Cyr: I would just add to that is we're seeing the biggest gains or biggest benefits for us when we're opening distribution in outlets or channels that cater towards larger purchases. Meaning, club retailers where the consumer's inherently buying a larger quantity, whether it's somebody who buys on a subscription from our D2C business.
Billy Cyr: Places where people buy in larger quantities, and so the act of acquiring a consumer turns into a much higher revenue source. That's a big gain for us, and we're getting a lot of return from that.
Speaker #7: And so the act of acquiring a consumer turns into much higher revenue source. That's a big gain for us. And we're getting a lot of return from that.
Speaker #5: Okay, great. That's helpful. And just on the new technology, I want to follow up and make sure I understand how you characterized it. I know you laid out some of the benefits and quantified those in a way that you hadn't before.
Michael Lavery: Okay, great. That's helpful. Just on the new technology, I want to follow up and make sure I understand how you characterized it. I know you laid out some of the benefits and quantified those in a way that you hadn't before, but it sounds like even just the throughput and efficiency is running ahead of what you expected. Did I catch it correctly that it's so much so the case that you're holding off putting more upgrades in or more new lines just because you don't need them yet? How do you think about just whether or not to pull forward-
Michael Lavery: Okay, great. That's helpful. Just on the new technology, I want to follow up and make sure I understand how you characterized it. I know you laid out some of the benefits and quantified those in a way that you hadn't before, but it sounds like even just the throughput and efficiency is running ahead of what you expected.
Speaker #5: But it sounds like even just the throughput and efficiency is running ahead of what you expected. And did I catch it correctly that it's so much so the case that you're holding off putting more upgrades in or more new lines just because you don't need them yet?
Michael Lavery: Did I catch it correctly that it's so much so the case that you're holding off putting more upgrades in or more new lines just because you don't need them yet? How do you think about just whether or not to pull forward-
Speaker #5: How do you think about just whether or not to pull forward rolled out more and kind of how that unfolds?
Billy Cyr: Yeah
Billy Cyr: Yeah
Michael Lavery: roll it out more and kind of how that unfolds?
Michael Lavery: roll it out more and kind of how that unfolds?
Speaker #7: It's a little bit different than that. What's happening is that our existing operations are performing so well, and the throughput that we're getting—and you can see that in the gross quarter—is so strong that the need for incremental capacity, meaning converting more lines or adding new lines, isn't as great as we at one point thought it might be.
Billy Cyr: It's a little bit different than that. What's happening is that our existing operations are performing so well and the throughput that we're getting, and you can see that in the gross margin that we posted in the quarter, is so strong that the need for incremental capacity, meaning converting more lines or adding new lines, isn't as great as we at one point thought it might be. The other piece, the other factor, and we refer to this in the prepared remarks, is that we continue to innovate on this technology and find ways to make it even better. Things where you might automate a part of the process or places where you might be able to drive a little bit higher yield or higher efficiency. So it's to our advantage to get as much out of the existing lines as we can, and we're doing that.
Billy Cyr: It's a little bit different than that. What's happening is that our existing operations are performing so well and the throughput that we're getting, and you can see that in the gross margin that we posted in the quarter, is so strong that the need for incremental capacity, meaning converting more lines or adding new lines, isn't as great as we at one point thought it might be.
Speaker #7: And the other piece, the other factor, and we refer to this in the prepared remarks, is that we continue to innovate on this technology and find ways to make it even better, things where you might automate a part of the process or places where you might be able to drive a little bit higher yield or higher efficiency.
Billy Cyr: The other piece, the other factor, and we refer to this in the prepared remarks, is that we continue to innovate on this technology and find ways to make it even better. Things where you might automate a part of the process or places where you might be able to drive a little bit higher yield or higher efficiency. So it's to our advantage to get as much out of the existing lines as we can, and we're doing that.
Speaker #7: And so, it's to our advantage to get as much out of the existing lines as we can, and we're doing that. That allows us to push back when we actually have to lock in on the specific execution of the new technology that we would invest in.
Billy Cyr: That allows us to push back when we actually have to lock in on the specific execution of the new technology that we would invest in, because once you buy it, you own it for the next 15 years. We'd sure like to know that we're investing in the version that is the best possible version at the time that we need it. That's really the balancing act that we're going through. The technology that we did start up, the lines that we did start up are doing well. We have the usual startup bumps that you might see. You saw that in the quality cost that we reported in the quarter, where we had a little bit more disposals than we normally would. From where we sit right now, we're very bullish on this technology and what its potential is.
Billy Cyr: That allows us to push back when we actually have to lock in on the specific execution of the new technology that we would invest in, because once you buy it, you own it for the next 15 years. We'd sure like to know that we're investing in the version that is the best possible version at the time that we need it. That's really the balancing act that we're going through.
Speaker #7: Because once you buy it, you own it for the next 15 years. And we'd sort of like to know that we're investing in the version that is the best possible version at the time that we need it.
Speaker #7: So that's really the balancing act that we're going through. The existing technology, the technology that we did start up, the lines that we did start up, are doing well.
Billy Cyr: The technology that we did start up, the lines that we did start up are doing well. We have the usual startup bumps that you might see. You saw that in the quality cost that we reported in the quarter, where we had a little bit more disposals than we normally would. From where we sit right now, we're very bullish on this technology and what its potential is.
Speaker #7: We have the usual startup bumps that you might see. You saw that in the quality cost that we report in the quarter where we had a little bit more disposals than we normally would.
Speaker #7: But from where we sit right now, we're very bullish on this technology and what its potential is. And, frankly, we think it's going to be a phenomenal platform for us going forward.
Billy Cyr: Frankly, we think it's going to be a phenomenal platform for us going forward. I would add one final thought is what's underappreciated about it, I think, is the amount of value we're going to get on new product innovation from this technology. The things that we can produce that our existing lines cannot produce using this new technology are pretty dramatic, and you're just seeing a little glimpse of that in some of the stuff that we have in the market today, but there's a lot more that can come from that.
Billy Cyr: Frankly, we think it's going to be a phenomenal platform for us going forward. I would add one final thought is what's underappreciated about it, I think, is the amount of value we're going to get on new product innovation from this technology. The things that we can produce that our existing lines cannot produce using this new technology are pretty dramatic, and you're just seeing a little glimpse of that in some of the stuff that we have in the market today, but there's a lot more that can come from that.
Speaker #7: I would add one final thought is what's underappreciated about it, I think, is the amount of value we're going to get on new product innovation from this technology.
Speaker #7: The things that we can produce that our existing lines cannot produce using this new technology are pretty dramatic. And you're just seeing a little glimpse of that in some of the stuff that we have in the market today, but there's a lot more that can come from that.
Speaker #2: Our next question comes from Todd Brooks from Benchmark, StoneX. Please go ahead. Looks like they dropped off. So our next question is from Mark Torrent from Wells Fargo.
Operator 2: Our next question comes from Todd Brooks from Benchmark StoneX. Please go ahead. Looks like they dropped off. Our next question is from Marc Torrente from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
Operator: Our next question comes from Todd Brooks from Benchmark StoneX. Please go ahead. Looks like they dropped off. Our next question is from Marc Torrente from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Hey, good morning. And thank you for the questions. First, just building on the earlier question on club, there's increased competition in the channel, but at the same time, dedicated fridge space is expanding and you're testing new SKUs.
Marc Torrente: Hey, good morning, thank you for the questions. First, just building on the earlier question on club. There's increased competition in the channel. At the same time, dedicated fridge space is expanding and you're testing new SKUs. How should we think about continued runway within club as you start to lap the launch from last year?
Marc Torrente: Hey, good morning, thank you for the questions. First, just building on the earlier question on club. There's increased competition in the channel. At the same time, dedicated fridge space is expanding and you're testing new SKUs. How should we think about continued runway within club as you start to lap the launch from last year?
Speaker #5: How should we think about continued runway within club as you start to lap the launch from last year?
Speaker #4: Nikki, you'll take that.
Billy Cyr: Nicki will take that.
Billy Cyr: Nicki will take that.
Speaker #3: Yeah, sure. I think we think a little bit about club in terms of the total channel, not just one specific retailer, but it's a good indication, maybe, of where the future is to come.
Nicki Baty: Yeah, sure. We think a little bit about club in terms of the total channel, not just one specific retailer, but it's a good indication maybe of where the future is to come. We have very limited assortment today across club retailers, and we still believe there is more opportunity for innovation to go into those outlets. We believe there's more opportunities with multiple expansion in other clubs as well that we're in. When we model out where the runway is, we still see a very big trajectory ahead for us over the coming years.
Nicki Baty: Yeah, sure. We think a little bit about club in terms of the total channel, not just one specific retailer, but it's a good indication maybe of where the future is to come. We have very limited assortment today across club retailers, and we still believe there is more opportunity for innovation to go into those outlets.
Speaker #3: So we have very limited assortment today. Across club retailers, and we still believe there is more opportunity for innovation to go into those outlets.
Speaker #3: And we believe there's more opportunities with multiple expansion in other clubs as well that we're in. So when we model out where the runway is, we still see a very big trajectory ahead for us over the coming years.
Nicki Baty: We believe there's more opportunities with multiple expansion in other clubs as well that we're in. When we model out where the runway is, we still see a very big trajectory ahead for us over the coming years.
Speaker #5: Okay. And then for the 2027 EBITDA targets, you increased the gross margin target, held the EBITDA margin target. Can you help us bridge some of the expected SG&A leverage over the next year to help you get there?
Marc Torrente: Okay. For the 2027 EBITDA targets, you increased the gross margin target, held the EBITDA margin target. Can you help us bridge some of the expected SG&A leverage over the next year to help you get there? Are you embedding any incremental investment in your longer-term outlook? Thanks.
Marc Torrente: Okay. For the 2027 EBITDA targets, you increased the gross margin target, held the EBITDA margin target. Can you help us bridge some of the expected SG&A leverage over the next year to help you get there? Are you embedding any incremental investment in your longer-term outlook? Thanks.
Speaker #5: And are you embedding any incremental investment in your longer-term outlook? Thanks.
Speaker #7: Sure, Mark. So one, just a reminder, right? So the adjusted gross margin goal that we have out there for next year in '27 is a floor.
Billy Cyr: Sure, Marc. One, just a reminder, right? The adjusted gross margin goal that we have out there for next year in 2027 is a floor, right? At the 48%, there was implied a lot of work to do in other parts of the P&L to get to that 22%. We're increasingly confident in the contribution to our ability to get into that range that's coming from adjusted gross margin. At this stage, we were prepared to raise that floor in terms of where we see gross margin next year. In terms of SG&A, as we said more broadly, media, Nicki talked about earlier, is the primary way in which we generate demand. We're obviously very keen to maintain that level of investment so that we can drive our sales growth, which is the most important for us to build our franchise over time.
John O'Connor: Sure, Marc. One, just a reminder, right? The adjusted gross margin goal that we have out there for next year in 2027 is a floor, right? At the 48%, there was implied a lot of work to do in other parts of the P&L to get to that 22%. We're increasingly confident in the contribution to our ability to get into that range that's coming from adjusted gross margin. At this stage, we were prepared to raise that floor in terms of where we see gross margin next year.
Speaker #7: Right? And there was at the 48%, there was implied a lot of work to do in other parts of the P&L to get to that 20 to 22%.
Speaker #7: We're increasingly confident in the contribution to our ability to get into that range that's coming from adjusted gross margin. And at this stage, we were prepared to raise that floor in terms of where we see gross margin next year.
Speaker #7: In terms of SG&A, as we said, more broadly, media Nikki talked about earlier is the primary way in which we generate demand. We're obviously very keen to maintain that level of investment so that we can drive our sales growth, which is the most important for us to build our franchise over time.
John O'Connor: In terms of SG&A, as we said more broadly, media, Nicki talked about earlier, is the primary way in which we generate demand. We're obviously very keen to maintain that level of investment so that we can drive our sales growth, which is the most important for us to build our franchise over time.
Speaker #7: We do expect to get some optimization of our logistics costs, from where we sit today, which is higher than we had expected it to be for the year.
Billy Cyr: We do expect to get some optimization of our logistics costs from where we sit today, which is higher than we had expected it to be for the year. As I mentioned earlier, a few times this year, we made some investments in 2025 to build the types of capabilities that are helping fuel our growth, particularly in e-commerce in 2026. We're annualizing those gains here in 2026. We don't foresee investments of that nature to operate our business in 2027. On top of that, there are a number of items we're looking at from just a general cost improvement and productivity improvement lens that we think will help reduce some of the costs that it takes to operate the business today, because there are opportunities here to be more efficient than we are in 2026.
John O'Connor: We do expect to get some optimization of our logistics costs from where we sit today, which is higher than we had expected it to be for the year. As I mentioned earlier, a few times this year, we made some investments in 2025 to build the types of capabilities that are helping fuel our growth, particularly in e-commerce in 2026. We're annualizing those gains here in 2026. We don't foresee investments of that nature to operate our business in 2027.
Speaker #7: And then as I mentioned, earlier, a few times this year, we made some investments in 2025 to build the types of capabilities that are helping fuel our growth, particularly in e-commerce in 2026.
Speaker #7: And we're annualizing those gains here in '26. We don't foresee investments of that nature, to operate our business in 2027. And then on top of that, there are a number of items we're looking at from just a general cost improvement and productivity improvement lens that we think will help reduce some of the costs that it takes to operate the business today.
John O'Connor: On top of that, there are a number of items we're looking at from just a general cost improvement and productivity improvement lens that we think will help reduce some of the costs that it takes to operate the business today, because there are opportunities here to be more efficient than we are in 2026.
Speaker #7: Because there are opportunities here to be more efficient than we are in 2026.
Speaker #2: As a reminder, if you have a question, please press star then one. And our next question comes from Yasmin Deswandi from Bank of America.
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Speaker #6: Thanks, guys. I just had a quick clarifying question off of Tom's question earlier. Just on the gross margin improvement that we're expecting from these lines, you said it's 25 bips for this year.
Yasmine Dehghani: Thanks, guys. I just had a quick clarifying questions off of Tom's question earlier. Just on the gross margin improvement that we're expecting from these lines, you said it's 25 bips for this year. Is it an incremental 25 bips next year, or is it just a 25 bips that's in the base? I guess, if you could comment on the pace to achieving the full 100 bips, that would be great as well. Thanks.
Yasmine Deswandhy: Thanks, guys. I just had a quick clarifying questions off of Tom's question earlier. Just on the gross margin improvement that we're expecting from these lines, you said it's 25 bips for this year. Is it an incremental 25 bips next year, or is it just a 25 bips that's in the base? I guess, if you could comment on the pace to achieving the full 100 bips, that would be great as well. Thanks.
Speaker #6: And then is it an incremental 25 bips next year, or is it just a 25 bips that's in the base? And I guess if you could comment on the pace to achieving the full 100 bips, that would be great as well.
Speaker #6: Thanks.
Speaker #7: Yes, sure. So I'll remind folks again: We do not have a specific number, nor have we bounded the upper end of the gross margin range for next year.
John O'Connor: Yeah, sure. I'll remind folks again, right, we do not have a specific number, nor have we bound the upper end of the gross margin range for next year. What we're looking at today is 150 basis points year to date improvement in adjusted gross margin that we have clearly delivered. We have a tough comp in Q4, where we have very strong adjusted gross margin in 2025. We still see net delivering 100 to 150 basis points of adjusted gross margin improvement in 2026, with only 25 basis points of that coming from the new technology. That operating performance, separate from the new technology, has given us the confidence to raise the floor of our adjusted gross margin expectations for 2027 by the 100 basis points that we did today.
John O'Connor: Yeah, sure. I'll remind folks again, right, we do not have a specific number, nor have we bound the upper end of the gross margin range for next year. What we're looking at today is 150 basis points year to date improvement in adjusted gross margin that we have clearly delivered. We have a tough comp in Q4, where we have very strong adjusted gross margin in 2025.
Speaker #7: So what we're looking at today is a 150-basis-point year-to-date improvement in adjusted gross margin that we have clearly delivered. We have a tough comp in Q4, where you have a very strong adjusted gross margin in 2025, but we still see net delivering 100 to 150 basis points of adjusted gross margin improvement in '26, with only 25 basis points of that coming from the new technology.
John O'Connor: We still see net delivering 100 to 150 basis points of adjusted gross margin improvement in 2026, with only 25 basis points of that coming from the new technology. That operating performance, separate from the new technology, has given us the confidence to raise the floor of our adjusted gross margin expectations for 2027 by the 100 basis points that we did today.
Speaker #7: That operating performance separate from the new technology has given us the confidence to raise the floor of our adjusted gross margin expectations for '27 by the 100 basis points that we did today.
Speaker #7: The 25 basis points that we're achieving year to date, or sorry, full year, on the new technology helps us be there for sure, but we also expect further gains from operating performance and the potential to reach some of that 100 basis points of annualized gains from the new technology at some point in 2027.
John O'Connor: The 25 basis points that we're achieving year to date, or sorry, full year on the new technology helps us be there for sure. We also expect further gains from operating performance and the potential to reach some of that 100 basis points of annualized gains from the new technology at some point in 2027. We're still ramping up out of this optimization phase, as Billy mentioned. The lines are running well. It's still a little early to pinpoint exactly when we get to that full rate and start achieving that annualized 100 basis point rate.
John O'Connor: The 25 basis points that we're achieving year to date, or sorry, full year on the new technology helps us be there for sure. We also expect further gains from operating performance and the potential to reach some of that 100 basis points of annualized gains from the new technology at some point in 2027.
Speaker #7: We're still ramping up out of this optimization phase as Billy mentioned. The lines are running well. It's still a little early to pinpoint exactly when we get to that full rate and start achieving that annualized 100 basis point rate.
John O'Connor: We're still ramping up out of this optimization phase, as Billy mentioned. The lines are running well. It's still a little early to pinpoint exactly when we get to that full rate and start achieving that annualized 100 basis point rate.
Speaker #6: Okay, great. Thank you. And then at the fully optimized 100 basis points of gross margin improvement, based on the three lines that you guys have installed and pretty sure the three lines were two light versions and one full.
Yasmine Dehghani: Okay, great. Thank you. Then at the fully optimized, 100 basis points of gross margin improvement based on the 3 lines that you guys have installed, I'm pretty sure the 3 lines were 2 light versions and 1 full. I'm not sure if it's a little bit too early, should we assume that the gross margin improvement that you're seeing from the full upgrade is double that of the light lines? I guess going forward would the look of these upgrades look similar to that ratio of 2 to 1 of where it's double light upgrades versus the full upgrades?
Yasmine Deswandhy: Okay, great. Thank you. Then at the fully optimized, 100 basis points of gross margin improvement based on the 3 lines that you guys have installed, I'm pretty sure the 3 lines were 2 light versions and 1 full.
Speaker #6: And so I'm not sure if it's a little bit too early, but should we assume that the gross margin improvement that you're seeing from the full upgrade is double that of the light lines?
Yasmine Deswandhy: I'm not sure if it's a little bit too early, should we assume that the gross margin improvement that you're seeing from the full upgrade is double that of the light lines? I guess going forward would the look of these upgrades look similar to that ratio of 2 to 1 of where it's double light upgrades versus the full upgrades?
Speaker #6: And I guess going forward, would the look of these upgrades look similar to that ratio of two to one of where it's double light upgrades versus the full upgrades?
Speaker #7: Yeah. It's a little bit more complicated than that because the benefits that we get from the two technologies, while they may be reported as similar things, in terms of yield throughput and whatnot, the reality is they are very different depending on what products that we're producing on those lines.
John O'Connor: Yeah. It's a little bit more complicated than that because the benefits that we get from the 2 technologies, while they may be reported as similar things in terms of yield throughput and whatnot, the reality is they are very different depending on what products that we're producing on those lines. From a simplistic perspective going forward, what you should expect is we will use the full version of the technology more for innovation for new products that will probably have embedded in them a much higher quality of product and visual appeal, probably a higher price that goes with that, and probably very good margins that come with it. The existing lines, which would be converted using the light version technology, would more likely be our existing products in our lineup, the return there would be a financial return, meaning higher throughput that you might get.
John O'Connor: Yeah. It's a little bit more complicated than that because the benefits that we get from the 2 technologies, while they may be reported as similar things in terms of yield throughput and whatnot, the reality is they are very different depending on what products that we're producing on those lines.
Speaker #7: And from a simplistic perspective, going forward, what you should expect is we will use the full version of the technology, more for innovation, for new products that will probably have embedded in them a much higher quality of product and visual appeal, probably a higher price that goes with that, and probably very good margins that come with it.
John O'Connor: From a simplistic perspective going forward, what you should expect is we will use the full version of the technology more for innovation for new products that will probably have embedded in them a much higher quality of product and visual appeal, probably a higher price that goes with that, and probably very good margins that come with it.
Speaker #7: The existing lines, which would be converted using the light version of technology, would more likely be our existing products in our lineup. And so the return there would be a financial return, meaning higher throughput that you might get.
John O'Connor: The existing lines, which would be converted using the light version technology, would more likely be our existing products in our lineup, the return there would be a financial return, meaning higher throughput that you might get.
Speaker #7: So it's going to be a little bit of mixed bag going forward. We aren't going to just add lines and add capacity when we don't have the need for it.
John O'Connor: It's going to be a little bit of a mixed bag going forward. We aren't going to just add lines and add capacity when we don't have the need for it. We're going to add them as we need them. The ratio between the new lines and the light lines will vary over time, depending on how many incremental lines we need to add.
John O'Connor: It's going to be a little bit of a mixed bag going forward. We aren't going to just add lines and add capacity when we don't have the need for it. We're going to add them as we need them. The ratio between the new lines and the light lines will vary over time, depending on how many incremental lines we need to add.
Speaker #7: We're going to add them as we need them. So the ratio between the new lines and the light lines will vary over time depending on how many incremental lines we need to add.
Speaker #2: The next question comes from Todd Brooks from the Benchmark Company. Please go ahead.
Operator 2: The next question comes from Todd Brooks from The Benchmark Company. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from Todd Brooks from The Benchmark Company. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Hey, thanks for squeezing me in. Sorry for the hangup earlier. Just following up on that last comment, Billy, on the new bag technology and what it unlocks.
Todd Brooks: Hey, thanks for squeezing me in. Sorry for the hang-up earlier. Just following up on that last comment, Billy, on the new bag technology and what it unlocks. As you're looking out longer term, are there any game-changing product capabilities that we should be thinking about from an almost category redefinition standpoint or how people think about Freshpet bagged product, or is it that improved quality, better visual appeal? I'm just trying to figure out how big the moat is that you see coming out of this new production technology.
Todd Brooks: Hey, thanks for squeezing me in. Sorry for the hang-up earlier. Just following up on that last comment, Billy, on the new bag technology and what it unlocks.
Speaker #5: As you're looking out longer term, are there kind of game-changing product capabilities that we should be thinking about from an almost category redefinition standpoint or how people think about Fresh Pet bagged product?
Todd Brooks: As you're looking out longer term, are there any game-changing product capabilities that we should be thinking about from an almost category redefinition standpoint or how people think about Freshpet bagged product, or is it that improved quality, better visual appeal? I'm just trying to figure out how big the moat is that you see coming out of this new production technology.
Speaker #5: Or is it that improved quality better visual appeal? Just I'm just trying to figure out how big the moat is that you see coming out of this new production technology.
Speaker #7: Yeah, I would frame it this way: the light version of technology allows us some product innovation capability, but much more will be focused on converting our existing products and doing it more efficiently, making them higher quality with better visual appeal.
John O'Connor: Well, I would frame it this way, is the light version of technology allows us some product innovation capability, but much more will be focused on converting our existing products and doing it more efficiently and making them higher quality, better visual appeal. The full version of this technology has tremendous innovation capabilities, and it will take us to a level of performance in terms of the aesthetics, the ingredients that we can use, the types of ingredients that we can use, the aroma that we can deliver, the visual appeal. All those things will be at a level well beyond what we can currently produce and what we believe anybody else can produce. So that should open up levels of premiumness, ranges of ingredients and product forms.
Billy Cyr: Well, I would frame it this way, is the light version of technology allows us some product innovation capability, but much more will be focused on converting our existing products and doing it more efficiently and making them higher quality, better visual appeal. The full version of this technology has tremendous innovation capabilities, and it will take us to a level of performance in terms of the aesthetics,
Speaker #7: The full version of this technology has tremendous innovation capabilities, and it will take us to a level of performance in terms of the aesthetics, the ingredients that we can use, the types of ingredients that we can use, the aroma that we can deliver, the visual appeal— all those things will be at a level well beyond what we can currently produce, and what we believe anybody else can produce.
Billy Cyr: the ingredients that we can use, the types of ingredients that we can use, the aroma that we can deliver, the visual appeal. All those things will be at a level well beyond what we can currently produce and what we believe anybody else can produce. So that should open up levels of premiumness, ranges of ingredients and product forms.
Speaker #7: And so that should open up levels of premiumness, ranges of ingredients and product forms. For example, you'll see in some of our materials, we talk about having a beefer version of one of the products we currently holding can do a chicken.
John O'Connor: For example, you'll see in some of our materials we talk about having a beef version of one of the products we currently only can do a chicken. That kind of thing is possible with this new technology. More to be determined as we go forward, but suffice it to say, that is a major unlock for us from a product flexibility perspective.
Billy Cyr: For example, you'll see in some of our materials we talk about having a beef version of one of the products we currently only can do a chicken. That kind of thing is possible with this new technology. More to be determined as we go forward, but suffice it to say, that is a major unlock for us from a product flexibility perspective.
Speaker #7: That kind of thing is possible with this new technology. More to be determined as we go forward, but suffice it to say that this is a major unlock for us from a product flexibility perspective.
Speaker #5: Okay, great. And then the other question I want to ask a little bit more strategic, but the continued category leadership that Fresh Pet's showing from a growth herd standpoint, when you're talking to customers, what do you hear about how they want to grow in the fresh category?
Todd Brooks: Okay, great. The other question I wanted to ask, a little bit more strategic, but the continued category leadership that Freshpet's showing from a growth rate standpoint. When you're talking to customers, what are you hearing about how they want to grow in the fresh category? Do they want to commit to the proven leader in this type of environment, or are they more willing to gamble on new entrants and form factors, or do they want to take the current brand winner and say, Okay, this is the way to address growth in the category with a proven partner? Thanks.
Todd Brooks: Okay, great. The other question I wanted to ask, a little bit more strategic, but the continued category leadership that Freshpet's showing from a growth rate standpoint. When you're talking to customers, what are you hearing about how they want to grow in the fresh category?
Speaker #5: Do they want to commit to the proven leader in this type of environment? Are they more willing to gamble on new entrants and form factors, or do they want to take the current brand winner and say, "Okay, this is the way to address growth in the category with a proven partner"?
Todd Brooks: Do they want to commit to the proven leader in this type of environment, or are they more willing to gamble on new entrants and form factors, or do they want to take the current brand winner and say, Okay, this is the way to address growth in the category with a proven partner? Thanks.
Speaker #5: Thanks.
Speaker #7: Nicky, I'll take that.
Billy Cyr: Nikki will take that.
Billy Cyr: Nikki will take that.
Speaker #3: So, look, we're not fully inside the heads of what retailers are going to do in terms of balancing where we sit versus maybe some competition.
Nicki Baty: Look, we're not fully inside the head of what retailers are going to do in terms of the balance of where we sit versus maybe some competition. The one thing I think that really stands in our favor is the impact that we have
Nicki Baty: Look, we're not fully inside the head of what retailers are going to do in terms of the balance of where we sit versus maybe some competition. The one thing I think that really stands in our favor is the impact that we have
Speaker #3: The one thing I think that really stands in our favor is the impact that we have for a retailer on the most loyal consumers that come into their store.
Nicki Baty: for a retailer on the most loyal consumers that come into their store. Typically, the MVP consumer that we bring in is one that is very, very valuable to that retailer. They're already shopping a very high propensity of fresh food. They're already going in on a much higher frequency basis. We believe we're very well-placed. We have a really strong proven track record. We have the broadest assortment with the deepest tiering of pricing that there is. We believe that we provide really the best all-round solution that is out there to date. Clearly, different retailers are going to look to absolutely double down and expand on this category. Our focus is less about competition in the same segment as us.
Nicki Baty: for a retailer on the most loyal consumers that come into their store. Typically, the MVP consumer that we bring in is one that is very, very valuable to that retailer. They're already shopping a very high propensity of fresh food. They're already going in on a much higher frequency basis. We believe we're very well-placed.
Speaker #3: So typically, the MVP consumer that we bring in is one that is very, very valuable to that retailer. They're already shopping a very high propensity of fresh food.
Speaker #3: They're already going in on a much higher frequency basis. So we believe we're very well placed. We have a really strong proven track record.
Nicki Baty: We have a really strong proven track record. We have the broadest assortment with the deepest tiering of pricing that there is. We believe that we provide really the best all-round solution that is out there to date. Clearly, different retailers are going to look to absolutely double down and expand on this category. Our focus is less about competition in the same segment as us.
Speaker #3: We have the broadest assortment with the deepest tiering of pricing that there is. So we believe that we provide really the best all-round solution that is out there today.
Speaker #3: But clearly different retailers are going to look to absolutely double down and expand on this category. Our focus is less about competition in the same segment as us.
Speaker #3: Our focus is much more on the runway that we have ahead of us, given we're only just over 4 percentage points of share of market today.
Nicki Baty: Our focus is much more on the runway that we're ahead of us, given we're only just over four percentage points of share of market today.
Nicki Baty: Our focus is much more on the runway that we're ahead of us, given we're only just over four percentage points of share of market today.
Speaker #7: I would just add to that that if you look historically, retailers have tried everything from go all in on us to the alternate strategy of try to enable other competition or private label in this space.
Billy Cyr: I would just add to that if you look historically, retailers have tried everything from go all-in on us to the alternate strategy of try to enable other competition or private label in this space. What the results have shown, at least to date, is that the guy who bets on Freshpet tends to get a better return than the person who bets on alternative competitors or on doing private label in this space. Our goal going forward is to make it so that our products and our manufacturing capability is so much better than what they can get from anybody else, that the guy who chooses to bet on our business ultimately is the winner because our products are that much better and they're at affordable prices.
Billy Cyr: I would just add to that if you look historically, retailers have tried everything from go all-in on us to the alternate strategy of try to enable other competition or private label in this space. What the results have shown, at least to date, is that the guy who bets on Freshpet tends to get a better return than the person who bets on alternative competitors or on doing private label in this space.
Speaker #7: And what the results have shown, at least to date, is that the guy who bets on Freshpet tends to get a better return than the person who bets on alternative competitors or on doing private label in this space.
Speaker #7: And our goal going forward is to make it so that our products and our manufacturing capability are so much better than what they can get from anybody else, that the guy who chooses to bet on our business ultimately is the winner because our products are that much better, and they're at affordable prices.
Billy Cyr: Our goal going forward is to make it so that our products and our manufacturing capability is so much better than what they can get from anybody else, that the guy who chooses to bet on our business ultimately is the winner because our products are that much better and they're at affordable prices.
Speaker #7: So, if we can continue to invest in our capability—our manufacturing capability—and deliver that superior consumer experience, it'll make it increasingly difficult for someone to compete with us.
Billy Cyr: If we can continue to invest in our capability, our manufacturing capability, and deliver that superior consumer experience, it'll make it increasingly difficult for someone to compete with us. That's our goal.
Billy Cyr: If we can continue to invest in our capability, our manufacturing capability, and deliver that superior consumer experience, it'll make it increasingly difficult for someone to compete with us. That's our goal.
Speaker #7: That's our goal.
Speaker #2: This concludes our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks.
Operator 2: This concludes our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks.
Operator: This concludes our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks.
Speaker #7: Thank you very much for your interest. I'll end with a quote from an unknown source. "Home is where the dog runs to greet you." To which I would add, don't feel so special, though, if your dog is like mine, she's waiting to show you where the fridge is.
Billy Cyr: Thank you very much for your interest. I'll end with a quote from an unknown source, "Home is where the dog runs to greet you." To which I would add, don't feel so special, though. If your dog is like mine, she's waiting to show you where the fridge is. Thank you very much.
Billy Cyr: Thank you very much for your interest. I'll end with a quote from an unknown source, "Home is where the dog runs to greet you." To which I would add, don't feel so special, though. If your dog is like mine, she's waiting to show you where the fridge is. Thank you very much.
Speaker #7: Thank you very much.
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