Q4 2026 Fox Corp Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Fox Corporation fourth-quarter fiscal year 2026 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Fox Corporation Fourth Quarter Fiscal Year 2026 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. I would like to emphasize that functionality for the question-and-answer queue will be given at that time. If you require assistance during the call, please press star then zero on your touchtone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Chief Investor Relations Officer, Ms. Gabrielle Brown. Please go ahead, Ms. Brown.
Speaker #1: Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. I would like to emphasize that functionality for the question-and-answer queue will be given at that time. If you require assistance during the call, please press star, then zero, on your touchstone keypad.
Speaker #1: As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I'll now turn the conference over to Chief Investor Relations Officer, Ms. Gabrielle Brown. Please go ahead, Ms. Brown.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Polly. Good morning, and welcome to our fiscal 2026 fourth-quarter earnings call. Joining me on the call today are Lachlan Murdoch, Executive Chair and Chief Executive Officer, John Nallen, President and Chief Operating Officer, and Steve Tomzic, our Chief Financial Officer.
Gabrielle Brown: Thank you, Paulie. Good morning and welcome to our fiscal 2026 Q4 earnings call. Joining me on the call today are Lachlan Murdoch, Executive Chair and Chief Executive Officer, John Nallen, President and Chief Operating Officer, and Steve Tomsic, our Chief Financial Officer. First, Lachlan and Steve will give some prepared remarks on the most recent quarter, then we will take questions from the investment community. Please note that this call may include forward-looking statements regarding Fox Corporation's financial performance and operating results. These statements are based on management's current expectations and actual results could differ from what is stated as a result of certain factors identified on today's call and in the company's SEC filings. Additionally, this call will include certain non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted EPS and adjusted EBITDA, or EBITDA, as we refer to it on this call.
Speaker #2: First, Lachlan and Steve will give some prepared remarks on the most recent quarter, and then we'll take questions from the investment community. Please note that this call may include forward-looking statements regarding Fox Corporation's financial performance and operating results.
Speaker #2: These statements are based on management's current expectations and actual results could differ from what is stated as a result of certain factors identified on today's call and in the company's SEC filings.
Speaker #2: Additionally, this call will include certain non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted EPS and adjusted EBITDA, or EBITDA as we refer to it on this call.
Speaker #2: Reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures are included in our earnings release and our SEC filings, which are available in the investor relations section of our website.
Gabrielle Brown: Reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures are included in our earnings release and our SEC filings, which are available in the investor relations section of our website. We also refer to free cash flow, which we define as net cash provided by operating activities less capital expenditures. With that, I am pleased to turn the call over to Lachlan.
Speaker #2: We also refer to free cash flow, which we define as net cash provided by operating activities less capital expenditures. And with that, I'm pleased to turn the call over to Lachlan.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Gabby. And thank you all for joining us today. Our fiscal 2026 was a notable year for Fox. We successfully launched our direct-to-consumer streaming service, Fox One, broadcast the FIFA Men's U.S., continued to keep America informed through a dynamic and fast-moving news cycle, enhanced TUVI's position as a leading streaming service, and announced the next chapter in Fox's digital evolution with our pending acquisition of Roku.
Lachlan Murdoch: Thank you, Gabby, thank you all for joining us today. Our fiscal 2026 was a notable year for Fox. We successfully launched our direct-to-consumer streaming service, FOX One, broadcast the FIFA Men's World Cup to record audiences in the US, continue to keep America informed through a dynamic and fast-moving news cycle, enhanced Tubi's position as a leading streaming service, announced the next chapter in Fox's digital evolution with our pending acquisition of Roku. These milestones were underpinned by a year of record financial performance. Revenue grew by 5% to over $17 billion, driven by record advertising and distribution revenue, while EBITDA grew 8% to a record $3.9 billion. These are excellent results, made even more impressive by comparison to the especially strong prior year, which benefited from the Super Bowl and the presidential election. We closed the year with outstanding top and bottom line momentum.
Speaker #3: These milestones were underpinned by a year of record financial performance. Revenue grew by 5% to over $17 billion, driven by record advertising and distribution revenue, while EBITDA grew 8% to a record $3.9 billion.
Speaker #3: These are excellent results, made even more impressive by comparison to the especially strong prior year, which benefited from the Super Bowl and the presidential election.
Speaker #3: We closed the year without standing top and bottom-line momentum. Our fiscal fourth quarter total revenue increased 28% to $4.2 billion, and EBITDA improved 27% to $1.2 billion.
Lachlan Murdoch: Our fiscal Q4 total revenue increased 28% to $4.2 billion and EBITDA improved 27% to $1.2 billion. On the distribution side, revenue in the Q4 increased 5%, supported in part by the strong momentum of FOX One, which continues to exceed our expectations. Advertising revenue during the quarter was notably strong, increasing 78%, with growth fueled by continued trends of Tubi, healthy advertising trends across the broader Fox portfolio, and our broadcast of the first stages of the 2026 FIFA Men's World Cup. At a time when audiences are increasingly fragmented, the World Cup demonstrated the unique power of Fox to deliver live premium sports that bring people together at scale. I'm proud of what the team achieved through the broadcast of the entire World Cup across the entirety of Fox.
Speaker #3: On the distribution side, revenue in the fourth quarter increased 5% to quartered ed in part by the strong momentum of Fox One, which continues to exceed our expectations.
Speaker #3: Advertising revenue during the quarter was notably strong, increasing $78%, with growth fueled by continued strength of TUVI, healthy advertising trends across the broader Fox portfolio, and our broadcast of the first stages of the 2026 FIFA Men's World Cup.
Speaker #3: At a time when audiences are increasingly fragmented, the World Cup demonstrated the unique power of Fox to deliver live, premium sports that bring people together at scale.
Speaker #3: I am proud of what the team achieved through the broadcast of the entire World Cup across the entirety of Fox. As we have shown time and again, we excel at mobilizing the whole company to deliver outstanding advertisers, and distributors.
Lachlan Murdoch: As we have shown time and again, we excel at mobilizing the whole company to deliver outstanding experiences for viewers, advertisers, and distributors. What is not explicit on screen or in the financial results is the intense amount of skillful work, preparation, promotion, production, marketing, and ad sales that goes on behind the scenes. We had thousands of colleagues directly involved in the production of all of our programming over the course of the tournament. We deployed all of our platforms, including the stations, the network, Fox Sports, Fox News, FOX One, Tubi, and our other digital assets to proactively drive record-breaking broadcasts from Fox. From the flawless simulcast of the opening matches on Tubi right through to the historic final, we brought the 104 matches and shoulder programming to American homes and watch parties like no other World Cup before.
Speaker #3: What is not explicit on screen or in the financial results is the intense amount of skillful work, preparation, promotion, production, marketing, and ad sales that goes on behind the scenes.
Speaker #3: We had thousands of colleagues directly involved in the production of all of our programming over the course of the tournament. We deployed all of our platforms, including the stations, the network, FOX Sports, FOX News, FOX One, Tubi, and our other digital assets, to proactively drive record-breaking broadcasts from FOX.
Speaker #3: From the flawless simulcast of the opening matches on TUVI, right through to the historic final, we brought the 104 matches and shoulder programming to American homes and watched parties like no other World Cup before.
Speaker #3: The success of the World Cup led Fox to top all networks in live event sports consumption in fiscal 2026, a remarkable achievement given that the next highest-rated broadcast network benefited from both the Super Bowl and the Winter Olympics.
Lachlan Murdoch: The success of the World Cup led Fox to top all networks in live event sports consumption in fiscal 2026. A remarkable achievement, given that the next highest-rated broadcast network benefited from both the Super Bowl and the Winter Olympics. The tournament also proved to be a customer acquisition opportunity for FOX One, driving incremental subscriber acquisition and strong retention rates that surpassed our expectations. Importantly, through FOX One, we continue to see minimal cannibalization of our traditional pay-TV business, reinforcing our strategy of targeting the cordless population, which has delivered meaningful additional distribution revenue across the company. We are a nimble, purposeful company, expert at delivering complex events at scale. We'll demonstrate this expertise again as we begin another broadcast season of the NFL on Fox starting next month.
Speaker #3: The tournament also proved to be a customer acquisition opportunity for Fox One, driving incremental subscriber acquisition and strong retention rates that surpassed our expectations.
Speaker #3: Importantly, through Fox One, we continue to see minimal cannibalization of our traditional pay TV business, reinforcing our strategy of targeting the cordless population, which has delivered meaningful additional distribution revenue across the company.
Speaker #3: We are a nimble purposeful company, expert at delivering complex events at scale. We'll demonstrate this expertise again as we begin another broadcast season of the NFL on Fox, starting next month.
Speaker #3: In advance of the season, we have had a recent thorough and productive discussion with the league, and as a result, we will not be making any amendments to our existing contractual relationship, which extends to the completion of the 2029 season.
Lachlan Murdoch: In advance of the season, we have had a recent, thorough, and productive discussions with the league, and as a result, we will not be making any amendments to our existing contractual relationship, which extends to the completion of the 2029 season. We'll be ready to engage with the NFL on the opt-out seasons and beyond at a date closer to the 2030 season, which has been the customary timetable. While our sports calendar had the most attention in the Q4, Fox News remained a leader in live news, finishing the Q4 and the year as both the most-watched cable network in total day and in prime time, while continuing to reinforce its leadership position with market share levels well ahead of all of its competitors combined.
Speaker #3: We'll be ready to engage with the NFL on the opt-out seasons and beyond at a date closer to the 2030 season, which has been the customary timetable.
Speaker #3: While our sports calendar had the most attention in the quarter, Fox News remained the leader in live news, finishing the quarter and the year as both the most-watched cable network in total day and in prime time, while continuing to reinforce its leadership position with market share levels well ahead of all of its competitors combined.
Speaker #3: This robust audience engagement, combined with the addition of another 400 new advertisers to the platform during the year, helped drive record revenue at Fox News Media in both the fourth quarter and the fiscal year.
Lachlan Murdoch: This robust audience engagement, combined with the addition of another 400 new advertisers to the platform during the year, helped drive record revenue at Fox News Media in both the Q4 and the fiscal year. Tubi delivered its most streamed and highest revenue quarter ever. Q4 revenue growth accelerated to 35%, fueled by a 17% increase in total viewing time. Tubi's World Cup hub attracted over 20 million viewers across the tournament, while additionally, the simulcast of two early-round matches generated two of the highest traffic days in the platform's history, in addition to promoting the tournament in the broadest way possible. That momentum helped Tubi close the fiscal year with 110 million monthly active users. Tubi and FOX One are the result of a successful strategy and skilled execution. Our pending acquisition of Roku is an extension of these.
Speaker #3: TUVI delivered its most streamed and highest revenue quarter ever. Fourth quarter revenue growth accelerated to $35%, fueled by a 17% increase in total viewing time.
Speaker #3: TUVI's World Cup hub attracted over 20 million viewers across the tournament, while additionally, the simulcast of two early-round matches generated two of the highest traffic days in the platform's history, in addition to promoting the tournament in the broadest way possible.
Speaker #3: That momentum helped TUVI close the fiscal year with 110 million monthly active users. TUVI and Fox One are the result of a successful strategy and skilled execution.
Speaker #3: Our pending acquisition of Roku, is an extension of these. This transaction will bolster our position in connected TV distribution and advertising, which have compelling long-term growth profiles.
Lachlan Murdoch: This transaction will bolster our position in Connected TV distribution and advertising, which have compelling long-term growth profiles. Fox has deep digital resources and skills, most notably seen in our consumer-facing products such as Tubi, FOX One, Fox Nation, Fox News Digital, and Fox Sports Digital. We have developed these businesses across their growth path to become important digital brands. For example, when we acquired Tubi in its early stages, we have turned it into a leading streaming platform with 10 times the revenue from when we started. The addition of Roku to Fox will expand our digital footprint and offerings even further. Roku brings us streaming at scale through its open partner-friendly platform that makes it a leading TV streaming platform in the US.
Speaker #3: Fox has deep digital resources and skills, most notably seen in our consumer-facing products such as TUVI, Fox One, Fox Nation, and Fox News and Fox Sports Digital.
Speaker #3: We have developed these businesses across their growth path to become important digital brands. For example, when we acquired TUVI in its early stages, we have turned it into a leading streaming platform with 10 times the revenue from when we will expand our digital footprint and offerings even further.
Speaker #3: Roku brings a streaming at scale through its open, partner-friendly platform that makes it a leading TV streaming platform in the US. Together, Fox and Roku combine premium live content deep market relationships scale distribution and leading platform capabilities, including subscriptions, to respond to the evolving needs of consumers and advertisers.
Lachlan Murdoch: Together, Fox and Roku combine premium live content, deep market relationships, scale distribution, and leading platform capabilities, including subscriptions, to respond to the evolving needs of consumers and advertisers. I know I speak for Anthony in saying that we are eager to get the transaction closed and for our teams to get started. While we are in the early approval process, only in the early approval process, the transaction is on track, and we expect closing in the H1 calendar 2027. We have had an outstanding fiscal 2026, and fiscal 2027 is also off to an excellent start. The success of the World Cup, combined with the early stages of the midterm political cycle, has driven continued advertising momentum across our national, local, and digital portfolio during our fiscal Q1.
Speaker #3: I know I speak for Anthony, in saying that we are eager to get that transaction closed and for our teams to get started. While we are in the early approval process, only in the early approval process, the transaction is on track, and we expect closing in the first half calendar 2027.
Speaker #3: We have had an outstanding fiscal 2026 and fiscal 2027 is also off to an excellent start. The success of the World Cup, combined with the early stages of the midterm political cycle, has driven continued advertising momentum across our national, local, and digital portfolio during our fiscal first quarter.
Speaker #3: The healthy advertising environment we saw throughout fiscal 2026 has carried into the new year, culminating in one of the strongest upfront in our history, with double-digit growth in volume.
Lachlan Murdoch: The healthy advertising environment we saw throughout fiscal 2026 has carried into the new year, culminating in one of the strongest upfronts in our history, with double-digit growth in volume. These results underscore the strength of the Fox portfolio and our unmatched ability to deliver premium, highly engaged audiences at scale across linear, digital, and streaming platforms, while also delivering sustained growth and shareholder value. I'll now turn it over to Steve to discuss the financials.
Speaker #3: These results underscore the strength of the Fox portfolio and our unmatched ability to deliver premium, highly engaged audiences at scale across linear, digital, and streaming platforms, while also delivering sustained growth and shareholder value.
Speaker #3: I'll now turn it over to Steve, to discuss the financials.
Speaker #4: Thanks, Lachlan, and good morning, everyone. Fox has just delivered an exceptionally strong fiscal 2026, highlighted by record annual revenue of over $17 billion, and record EBITDA of $3.9 billion.
Steve Tomsic: Thanks, Lachlan, and good morning, everyone. Fox has just delivered an exceptionally strong fiscal 2026, highlighted by record annual revenue of over $17 billion and record EBITDA of $3.9 billion. Advertising revenue across the company grew 7%, which is particularly noteworthy when measured against last year's Super Bowl LIX and presidential election cycle. This growth was led by our broadcast of the 2026 FIFA Men's World Cup, along with continued growth at Tubi. Despite it being a relatively light year of renewals, distribution revenue increased 4%, led by 5% growth at our cable segment. Content and other revenue was up 4%, primarily due to higher sports sublicensing revenue at our cable segment. Total expenses increased 4%, mainly a result of World Cup rights and production costs, FOX One first-year costs, and higher digital content costs.
Speaker #4: Advertising revenue across the company grew 7%, which is particularly noteworthy when measured against last year's Super Bowl 59 and presidential election cycle. This growth was led by our broadcast of the 2026 FIFA Men's World Cup, along with continued growth at TUVI.
Speaker #4: Despite it being a relatively light year of renewals, distribution revenue increased 4%, led by 5% growth at our cable segment. Content and other revenue was up 4%, primarily due to highest sports sub-licensing revenue at our cable segment.
Speaker #4: Total expenses increased 4%, mainly a result of World Cup rights and production costs, Fox One first-year costs, and higher digital content costs. Net income attributable to stockholders was $1.7 billion, or $3.84 per share, as compared to the $2.3 billion or $4.91 per share reported in fiscal 2025.
Steve Tomsic: Net income attributable to stockholders was $1.7 billion, or $3.84 per share, as compared to the $2.3 billion or $4.91 per share reported in fiscal 2025. Excluding non-core items, full-year adjusted net income was $2.4 billion and adjusted EPS was $5.42 per share, up 13% compared to the $4.78 per share reported in the prior year. Our financial delivery has been strong throughout fiscal 2026, and we ended the year with tremendous momentum with our fiscal Q4 results headlined by 28% growth in total revenue and 27% growth in EBITDA. This was driven by a 78% increase in advertising revenue, primarily a result of this year's broadcast of the World Cup and accelerating growth at Tubi. Distribution revenue grew 5%, once again demonstrating the strength of our brands and focused portfolio of channels.
Speaker #4: Excluding non-core items, full-year adjusted net income was $2.4 billion, and adjusted EPS was $5.42 per share, up 13% compared to the $4.78 per share reported in the prior year.
Speaker #4: Our financial delivery has been strong throughout fiscal 2026, and we ended the year with tremendous momentum, with our fiscal fourth quarter results headlined by 28% growth in total revenue and 27% growth in EBITDA.
Speaker #4: This was driven by a 78% increase in advertising revenue, primarily a result of this year's broadcast of the World Cup and accelerating growth at TUVI.
Speaker #4: Distribution revenue grew 5%, once again demonstrating the strength of our brands and focused portfolio channels. Content and other revenue was $262 million, as compared to the $269 million reported in the prior year quarter, primarily due to the timing of sports sub-licensing revenue.
Steve Tomsic: Content and other revenue was $262 million as compared to the $269 million reported in the prior year quarter, primarily due to the timing of sports sublicensing revenue. Expenses increased 28%, driven by higher sports programming rights amortization and production costs led by the World Cup, as well as costs associated with the growth of FOX One. Net income attributable to Fox stockholders was $691 million, or $1.61 per share, as compared to the $717 million or $1.57 per share reported in the prior year period. Excluding non-core items, adjusted net income was $765 million and adjusted EPS was $1.79, up 41% compared to the $1.27 per share recorded in the prior year period. Now let's turn to the quarterly results of our operating segments. Starting with the Cable Network Programming segment, where revenue grew 9% and EBITDA declined 3%.
Speaker #4: Expenses increased 28%, driven by higher sports programming rights amortization and production costs, led by the World Cup, as well as costs associated with the growth of Fox One.
Speaker #4: Net income attributable to FOX stockholders was $691 million, or $1.61 per share, compared to $717 million, or $1.57 per share, reported in the prior year period.
Speaker #4: Excluding non-core items, adjusted net income was $765 million, and adjusted EPS was $1.79, up 41% compared to the $1.27 per share recorded in the prior year period.
Speaker #4: Now, let's turn to the quarterly results of our operating segments. Starting with the cable network programming segment, where revenue grew 9% and EBITDA declined 3%.
Speaker #4: Cable advertising revenue grew 22% over the prior year, driven by this year's broadcast of the World Cup. Cable distribution revenue grew 7% over the prior year quarter, as pricing gains from our affiliate renewals outpaced the impact from net subscriber declines, which remained consistent with the prior quarter at under 6.5%, across our third-party distributors.
Steve Tomsic: Cable advertising revenue grew 22% over the prior year, driven by this year's broadcast of the World Cup. Cable distribution revenue grew 7% over the prior year quarter, as pricing gains from our affiliate renewals outpaced the impact from net subscriber declines, which remained consistent with the prior quarter at under 6.5% across our third-party distributors. This is before taking into account the meaningful positive contribution from FOX One. Cable content and other revenue declined 39% due to the timing of sports sublicensing revenue. Revenue growth at the cable segment was more than offset by a 20% increase in expenses, primarily attributable to an increase in sports programming rights amortization and production costs led by the World Cup. Turning to our Television segment, which delivered 45% revenue growth and 129% EBITDA growth.
Speaker #4: This is before taking into account the meaningful positive contribution from Fox One. Cable content and other revenue declined 39% due to the timing of sports sub-licensing revenue.
Speaker #4: Revenue growth at the cable segment was more than offset by a 20% increase in expenses, primarily attributable to an increase in sports programming rights amortization and production costs, led by the World Cup.
Speaker #4: Turning to our television segment, which delivered 45% revenue growth and 129% EBITDA growth. Advertising revenue at our television segment grew 108% over the prior year.
Steve Tomsic: Advertising revenue at our television segment grew 108% over the prior year, led by the current year broadcast of the World Cup, higher political advertising revenue at our television stations, and continued growth at Tubi, which was EBITDA positive in each quarter of fiscal 2026. Television distribution revenue was essentially flat compared to the prior year. Television content and other revenue was up 14%, primarily due to higher content revenues tied to our entertainment production studios. Expenses at the television segment increased 27%, primarily reflecting higher sports programming rights amortization and production costs led by the broadcast of the World Cup. Turning to cash flow, where we generated robust quarterly free cash flow of $726 million.
Speaker #4: Led by the current year broadcast of the World Cup, higher political advertising revenue at our television stations, and continued growth at TUVI, which was EBITDA positive in each quarter of fiscal 2026.
Speaker #4: Television distribution revenue was essentially flat, compared to the prior year. Television content and other revenue was up 14%, primarily due to higher content revenues tied to our entertainment production studios.
Speaker #4: Expenses at the television segment increased 27%, primarily reflecting higher sports programming rights amortization and production costs, led by the broadcast of the World Cup.
Speaker #4: Turning to cash flow, where we generated robust quarterly free cash flow of $726 million, as expected quarterly free cash flow was impacted by the timing of working capital, related to the World Cup.
Steve Tomsic: As expected, quarterly free cash flow was impacted by the timing of working capital related to the World Cup, where rights payments for the tournament landed in fiscal 2026, while advertising receivables will be collected early in fiscal 2027. Before we get to capital allocation and balance sheet, it is worth noting some key items for this coming fiscal year. From a cyclical event perspective, we will continue to have the benefit of the World Cup in Q1 of 2027, with total tournament revenues weighted towards fiscal 2026 versus 2027, and with 2027 revenues strongly weighted towards our television segment, which carried the majority of the knockout stage matches. The other major cyclical tailwind will be the midterm elections, which are expected to boost advertising revenues, particularly at our local stations and Tubi within our TV segment.
Speaker #4: Where rights payments for the tournament landed in fiscal 2026, while advertising receivables will be collected early in fiscal 2027. Before we get to capital allocation and balance sheet, it is worth noting some key items for this coming fiscal year.
Speaker #4: From a cyclical event perspective, we will continue to have the benefit of the World Cup in the first quarter of 2027, with total tournament revenues weighted towards fiscal 2026 versus 2027, and with 2027 revenues strongly weighted towards our television segment, which carried the majority of the knockout stage matches.
Speaker #4: The other major cyclical tailwind will be the midterm elections, which are expected to boost advertising revenues, particularly at our local stations and Tubi within our TV segment.
Speaker #4: From a distribution revenue perspective, we return to a more normalized level of renewals in fiscal 2027, which will be more skewed towards TV. We continue to expect both our cable and TV segments to contribute to distribution revenue growth in fiscal 2027.
Steve Tomsic: From a distribution revenue perspective, we return to a more normalized level of renewals in fiscal 2027, which will be more skewed towards TV. We continue to expect both our cable and TV segments to contribute to distribution revenue growth in fiscal 2027. With the performance of Tubi and FOX One running ahead of expectations, the level of investment in digital-led growth initiatives moderated in fiscal 2026 versus the prior year, and we expect to see continued bottom-line improvement in this portfolio going into fiscal 2027. In terms of capital allocation, in fiscal 2026, we repurchased an additional $2 billion through our share buyback program and distributed approximately $243 million in dividend payments. As Lachlan mentioned, underscoring our commitment to return capital to shareholders, today we announced an increase in our semiannual dividend to $0.29 per share.
Speaker #4: With the performance of TUVI and Fox One running ahead of expectations, the level of investment in digital-led growth initiatives moderated in fiscal 2026 versus the prior year, and we expect to see continued bottom-line improvement in this portfolio going into fiscal 2027.
Speaker #4: In terms of capital allocation, in fiscal 2026, we repurchased an additional $2 billion through our share buyback program and distributed approximately $243 million in dividend payments.
Speaker #4: As Lachlan mentioned, underscoring our commitment to return capital to shareholders, today we announced an increase in our semi-annual dividend to $29 per share. With the payment of this dividend and our share repurchase activity, we will have cumulatively returned $10.7 billion of capital to our shareholders since the stint.
Steve Tomsic: With the payment of this dividend and our share repurchase activity, we will have cumulatively returned $10.7 billion of capital to our shareholders since the spin. This includes $8.6 billion of share repurchases, representing approximately 36% of our total shares outstanding since the launch of the buyback program in November 2019. This is all supported by the strength of our balance sheet, where we ended the quarter with approximately $4.2 billion in cash and $6.6 billion in debt. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Gabby.
Speaker #4: This includes $8.6 billion of share repurchases, representing approximately $36% of our total shares outstanding since the launch of the buyback program in November 2019.
Speaker #4: This is all supported by the strength of our balance sheet, where we ended the quarter with approximately $4.2 billion in cash and $6.6 billion in debt. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Gabby.
Gabrielle Brown: Great. Thank you, Steve. Now we would be happy to take questions from the investment community. Please note that we are limited in what we can say regarding Fox's pending Roku transaction at this time. We have filed materials about the transaction, including the merger agreement with the SEC. When we file the registration statement for the transaction, it will provide additional information. For today, we would ask that questions focus on Fox's standalone results.
Speaker #1: Great. Thank you, Steve. And now we would be happy to take questions from the investment community. Please note that we are limited in what we can say regarding Fox's pending Roku transaction at this time.
Speaker #1: We have filed materials about the transaction, including the merger agreement with the SEC. When we filed the registration statement for the transaction, it will provide additional information.
Speaker #1: For today, we would ask that questions focus on Fox's standalone results.
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John Hodulik: Great. Thanks, and good morning, everyone. Lachlan, any color you can provide on the underlying ad market? Some of your peers during the earnings season here have sort of talked about sort of mixed results. Maybe first on the linear side, what you saw on the upfront in terms of pricing and then sort of overall demand for sports and news inventory.
Speaker #5: Hey, thanks, and good morning, everyone. Lachlan, any color you can provide on the underlying ad market? Some of your peers during earnings season here have sort of talked about sort of mixed results.
Speaker #5: Maybe, first, on the linear side, what you saw in the upfront in terms of pricing, and then sort of overall demand for sports and news inventory.
Speaker #5: And then any comments you could provide on the health of the CTV market. You had some positive trends there with TUVI, but just anything you could provide in terms of pricing and fill rates.
John Hodulik: Then any comments you could provide on the health of the CTV market. You had some positive trends there with Tubi, but just anything you could provide in terms of pricing and fill rates. Then lastly, just a quick clarification on your comments on the NFL. I guess, at this point, we shouldn't expect a change in pricing of those rights until 2030. If you could provide any color in terms of how that came to be. I think there's a lot of expectations that you would see a price increase either up for this season or for next season. Any color there would be great, too. Thanks.
Speaker #5: And then lastly, just a quick clarification on your comments on the NFL. I guess at this point, we shouldn't expect a change in pricing of those rights until 2030.
Speaker #5: And if you could provide any color in terms of how that came to be, I think there's a lot of expectations that you would see the price increase either up for this season or for next season.
Speaker #5: So any color there would be great too. Thanks.
Speaker #6: All right. Thanks, John. And good morning. So first, on the ad market, we are seeing a very strong ad market for us in our I can't speak for the total ad market, but certainly for our businesses and really across our entire portfolio.
Lachlan Murdoch: Great. Thanks, John, and good morning. First, on the ad market, we are seeing a very strong ad market for us, and I can't speak for the total ad market, but certainly for our businesses and really across our entire portfolio. We're very pleased with the strength of the demand for impressions across sports, news, the local stations, Tubi, and also entertainment. It's a strong market. Our upfronts we completed some time ago, with double-digit volume growth across sports, news, and Tubi, and we achieved rates of change which we believe are sort of leading amongst our peers. It's always difficult to tell, but certainly that's what our front-facing ad sales team are telling us. They believe we've both achieved this double-digit volume growth, in addition to leading rates of change. We're pleased with that.
Speaker #6: We are very pleased with the strength of the demand. For impressions across sports, news, the local stations, TUVI, and also entertainment. So it's a strong market.
Speaker #6: Our upfront, we completed some time ago, with double-digit volume growth across sports, news, and TUVI. And we achieved rates of change which we believe are sort of leading amongst our peers.
Speaker #6: It's always difficult to tell, but certainly that's what our sort of front-facing ad sales team is telling us. They believe we've both achieved this double-digit volume growth in addition to leading our rates of change.
Speaker #6: So we're pleased with that. When I look at the categories that are benefiting from, I think of the 10 categories that we track, we're up in sort of 8 of the 10 categories in the upfront.
Lachlan Murdoch: When I look at the categories that we're benefiting from, I think of the 10 categories that we track. We're up in sort of eight of the 10 categories in the upfront. Entertainment, financial, auto, pharma, dining, retail, technology, and telecom all have very strong upfronts for us. That's from an upfront perspective. Moving into where we are today, we're seeing that momentum and that strength continue into Q1. We are very pleased. The CTV market remains very competitive. There's a lot of new inventory available in that market. In that segment, Tubi has seen a 35% revenue growth, so has competed exceedingly well despite the heavy competition. We're seeing that momentum continue in Q1. On the NFL, you're correct.
Speaker #6: So entertainment, financial, auto, pharma, dining, retail, technology, and telecom, all have very strong upfront for us. So that's from an upfront perspective. Moving into where we are today, we're seeing that momentum and that strength continue into the first quarter.
Speaker #6: So we are very pleased. The CTV market remains very competitive. There's a lot of new inventory available in that market. But in that segment, TUVI has seen a 35% revenue growth, so has competed exceedingly well despite the heavy competition.
Speaker #6: And we're seeing that momentum continue in the first quarter. On the NFL, you're correct. We don't see any changes to our contractual terms until the 2030 season.
Lachlan Murdoch: We don't see any changes to our contractual terms until the 2030 season, I can't really give you any color in terms of the background of how we've come to that. Thank you for the question, John.
Speaker #6: But I can't really give you any color in terms of the background of how we've come to that. So thank you for the question, John.
Speaker #1: Great. Next question, please.
Gabrielle Brown: Great. Next question please.
Speaker #4: We had a question from Michael Morris of Guggenheim. Please go ahead.
Operator: We have a question from Michael Morris of Guggenheim. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Thank you, good morning, and thanks for all the work on the World Cup. It was a very enjoyable event as a fan. I want to ask you about that.
Michael Morris: Thank you. Good morning, and thanks for all the work on the World Cup. It was a very enjoyable event as a fan. I want to ask you about that. First of all, can you help us any more with the size of the contribution to ad revenue and profitability, both in the fiscal Q4 and what you're expecting from a contribution perspective in the fiscal Q1? Then bigger picture, Lachlan, maybe for you, I'd love to hear how the strength of a unique event like the World Cup in the US and North America, which is not recurring, does help the business on a sustainable basis. How do you keep momentum from this, and what else does this fuel for Fox going forward, post-World Cup? Thank you.
Speaker #5: First of all, can you help us any more with the size of the contribution to ad revenue and profitability, both in the fiscal fourth quarter and what you're expecting from a contribution perspective in the fiscal first quarter?
Speaker #5: And then bigger picture, Lachlan, maybe for you, I'd love to hear how the strength of a unique event like the World Cup in the US and North America, which is not recurring, does help the business on a sustainable basis.
Speaker #5: How do you keep momentum for this, and from this, and what else does this fuel for Fox going forward post-World Cup? Thank you.
Speaker #6: Thanks, Mike. I'm glad you enjoyed the World Cup as a fan. We also enjoyed it as a business, even more. Look, it was, as you alluded to in your question, it really was a unique event.
Lachlan Murdoch: Thanks, Mike. I'm glad you enjoyed the World Cup as a fan. We also enjoyed it as a business even more. Look, as you allude to in your question, it really was a unique event, and which I think speaks to the second part of your question, in addition to the sort of the strength of Fox, our focus, our ability to amplify the World Cup across our entire portfolio. A tremendous amount of planning and work went into this. I think it illustrated that really only Fox can take events like this and amplify them in a way that's frankly unique in the market. We were very pleased with the World Cup. Obviously, though, it's an American World Cup.
Speaker #6: And I think in addition to the, which I think speaks to the second part of your question, in addition to the sort of the strength of Fox are focused, our ability to amplify the World Cup across our entire portfolio.
Speaker #6: A tremendous amount of planning and work went into this. I think it illustrated that really only Fox can take events like this, and amplify them in a way that's frankly, unique in the market.
Speaker #6: So we were very pleased with the World Cup. Obviously, though, it's an American World Cup. It came in the summer months without a lot of sports competition.
Lachlan Murdoch: It came in the summer months without a lot of sports competition, and it had tremendous enthusiasm by both our viewers and fans, but also by our clients and advertising partners. The stars really aligned to deliver a tremendous result for both FIFA, and for fans, and for us. I think that goes to the second part of your question, how we move forward. I think we can show all sports leagues the value of Fox and the value of what we bring. Obviously, leagues are intent and focused on monetizing their IP and their properties most efficiently. It's important to realize the strength of the marketing, the reach, the planning, the production that we put behind events like this.
Speaker #6: And it had tremendous enthusiasm by both viewers and fans, but also by our clients and advertising partners. So the stars really aligned to deliver a tremendous result for both FIFA and for fans and for us.
Speaker #6: I think that goes to your second part of your question, how this is how we move forward. I think we can show all sports leagues the value of Fox and the value of what we bring.
Speaker #6: Obviously, leagues are intent and focused on monetizing their IP and their properties the most efficiently. But it's important to realize the strength of the marketing, the reach, and the planning to production that we put behind events like this.
Speaker #1: Great. Next question, please.
Gabrielle Brown: Great. Next question, please.
Speaker #4: We have a question from Michael Ng of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Operator: We have a question from Michael Ng of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Hey, good morning. Thank you very much for the question. I have two as well. Just first on TUVI and the very strong 35% year-over-year growth.
Michael Ng: Hey, good morning. Thank you very much for the question. I have two as well. Just first on Tubi and the very strong 35% year-over-year growth, maybe you could just help us break that down between benefits from things like the World Cup Hub versus underlying. Then could you just remind us what the digital loss number or digital investment number was for fiscal 2025, so we could model off of that? Could you just comment on the free cash flow outlook for next year? Thank you.
Speaker #7: Maybe you could just help us break that down between benefits from things like the World Cup, World Cup Hub versus underlying, and then could you just remind us what the digital loss number or digital investment number was for fiscal '25?
Speaker #7: So we could model off of that. And could you just comment on the free cash flow outlook for next year? Thank you.
Speaker #6: Great. Thanks, Mike. Good morning. I'll talk to the TUVI momentum and Stephen can talk to investment
Lachlan Murdoch: Great. Thanks, Mike. Good morning. I'll talk to the Tubi momentum, and Steve can talk to investment. Steve used the word losses, but it's a really important and disciplined investment in our digital categories. Tubi grew, as you mentioned, 35%. That momentum's continued into Q1. That's driven off a number of things. Obviously, it's total viewing time, which grew 17%. That's the key metric. If we can continue to grow the engagement and the viewing time, the impressions and ad revenue flow from that. If you take a step back and think about why Tubi has been so successful, in addition to its really industry-leading library and user integration platform, it's that I think it's close to 70% of Tubi's viewers are cordless. Are either cord nevers or cord cutters. This far exceeds any of our competitors in the marketplace.
Speaker #1: Yeah , you use your word losses , but but really , really important and sort of discipline investment in our digital categories . , so to be , to be grew , , as you mentioned , 35% , , that momentum continued into the first quarter .
Speaker #1: That's driven off a number of things . Obviously . , it's a , , a total viewing time , which grew 17% . , that's the key metric .
Speaker #1: If we can continue to grow , , the engagement and the viewing time . , you know , , the impressions and ad revenue , , flow , , from that , , you know , why if you , if you take a step back and think about , you know , what , toobie , , has been so successful , you know , in addition to its sort of , , you know , , you know , really industry leading , , library and , , and sort of , and sort of , , user interface and platform .
Speaker #1: It's that I think it's close to 70% of Tubi's viewers . , are cord are cordless , right ? Are either cord nevers or cord cutters .
Speaker #1: And this far exceeds any of our competitors in the marketplace . So we have the largest cohort of cordless cordless , which means very hard to reach .
Lachlan Murdoch: We have the largest cohort of cordless, which means very hard-to-reach audience viewers for the advertising market. When you add Tubi to a media buy, you really are expanding your reach dramatically. It's a very valuable position to be in. In addition to that, you have to remember that Tubi's viewing is like 96% of video on demand. Someone is actually proactively choosing to watch that content in their living room or in their home. It's not a FAST channel or driven by FAST channels, which is much more akin to a linear stream, which makes its advertising even more valuable for the high engagement with the consumer. We're very pleased with Tubi, and we're pleased to see its momentum continue into the new fiscal year. Steve?
Speaker #1: audience . , viewers , , for the advertising market . So when you add Tubi to , to a media buy , you really are getting , expanding your reach dramatically .
Speaker #1: And it's a very valuable , , position . , to be in , in addition to that , , you have to remember that tubi's viewing is like 96% of video on demand .
Speaker #1: Someone is actually choosing , proactively choosing to watch that content . , in their , in their living room or in their home .
Speaker #1: It's not a fast channel . , driven by fast channels , which is , , you know , which is , , , you know , much more akin to , , to a linear stream , which makes it the advertising , you know , even more valuable to , for that high engagement with the consumer .
Speaker #1: So , so we're very pleased with TV and we're pleased to see us momentum continue into the new fiscal year . , Steve , thanks for .
Gabrielle Brown: Thanks, Lachlan.
Speaker #2: Hey , Mike . , just in terms of the digital investments , , just to remind people in fiscal 25 , we were just under $300 million in digital investments .
Steve Tomsic: Hey, Mike. Just in terms of the digital investments, just to remind people, in fiscal 2025, we were just under $300 million in digital investments. This current year, just picking up the comments Lachlan had about Tubi and the outperformance there, plus the incredible outperformance we saw at FOX One, saw that that digital investment number collectively come in at less than $200 million in the most recent fiscal year, so fiscal 2026. We'd expect, as I mentioned in my remarks, for that improvement to continue going into fiscal 2027.
Speaker #2: , this current year , just picking up the comments . Lachlan had about to be in the outperformance there , plus the incredible outperformance we saw at Fox .
Speaker #2: One saw that that digital investment number come in at less than 200 million in the most recent fiscal year . So fiscal 26 .
Speaker #2: And we'd expect, as I mentioned in my remarks, for that improvement to continue going into fiscal '27.
Speaker #1: And , Mike , I didn't answer your part about the to be , , , World Cup revenue . , it it was , , , you know , important revenue , good revenue , but it's relatively small in the context of , , the overall revenue growth at tubing
Lachlan Murdoch: Mike, I didn't ask your part about the Tubi World Cup revenue. It was important revenue, good revenue, but it's relatively small in the context of the overall revenue growth of Tubi.
Speaker #3: Next question please .
Gabrielle Brown: Next question, please.
Speaker #4: We have a question from Peter Supino of Wolfe Research . ahead
Operator: We have a question from Peter Supino of Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Hi . Good morning . Another one on Tobi . I wondered if you could discuss ad sales at Tubi from the perspective of sell out .
Peter Supino: Hi, good morning. Another one on Tubi. I wondered if you could discuss ad sales at Tubi from the perspective of sell-out and CPM trends, and whether you can share levels, especially on sell-out, to give us a sense of how that's going and obviously relates to your proposed acquisition of Roku, even though the question isn't directly about Roku. As a brief second one, if you could talk about FOX One subscriber retention, how important has been bundling FOX One to your churn rate? Thank you.
Speaker #5: , and CPM trends and whether you can share levels , especially on sell out to give us a sense of how that's going .
Speaker #5: And , obviously relates to your proposed acquisition of Roku , even though the question isn't directly about Roku and , , as a brief second one , if you could talk about Fox , one subscriber retention , , how important has been bundling Fox one to your churn rate ?
Speaker #5: Thank you
Speaker #1: , thanks , Peter . So , so let me start with , , with , , with , with Toby . So , you know , as we mentioned , the CTV , ad market remains , you know , very active and very competitive , which , which means , , you know .
Lachlan Murdoch: Thanks, Peter. Let me start with Tubi. As we mentioned, the CTV ad market remains very active and very competitive, which means very price sensitive. Tubi, though, has always been priced very efficiently for the current environment. While I think other platforms in the market have had to reduce price to compete or compete for volume in the market, Tubi has not had to drop its rates of change or of our advertising rate in order to compete. That's partially because we're already a tremendously efficient advertising vehicle for people. On the second question on FOX One, bundling is important for FOX One. We will continue to bundle FOX One where it makes sense for consumers. Consumers are either self-bundling, obviously, as they choose their streaming services.
Speaker #1: Very price sensitive , , Tubi though has always been priced very efficiently for the current environment . And so while , , I think other , , other platforms in the market have had to , , reduce price to compete or compete for , for , for , for volume in the market , , you know , Tubi has , , has not had to drop its , , drop its rates of change or of advertising rate in order to compete .
Speaker #1: So , but that's , that's partially because we're already , you know , a tremendously efficient , , advertising , , you know , vehicle for , for , for people .
Speaker #1: So , , on , , , on the second question on Fox one , , you know , bundling is important for Fox one , you know , we will continue to bundle , , Fox one where it makes sense , for consumers .
Speaker #1: , consumers are either self bundling , obviously , as they , , as they choose their , their streaming services , , but where it makes sense , you know , we will continue to bundle , , to make it more efficient , , for consumers and more attractive for consumers .
Lachlan Murdoch: Where it makes sense, we will continue to bundle to make it more efficient for consumers and more attractive for consumers where there's a natural fit for FOX One with another provider. That will continue. The pleasing thing with FOX One, in addition to the fact that the subscribers to date are truly incremental, we've seen that through our data and our numbers. We are not churning any traditional MVPD customers, which are incredibly valuable to us. We are huge supporters of the MVPD marketplace. These are new subscribers, incremental subscribers that come from outside the traditional ecosystem. That's very encouraging. The second thing that's encouraging is the churn has been well below our expectations, and looks like it's continuing that in Q1.
Speaker #1: , you know , where there's a natural fit for Fox one with another , another provider . So that will continue , , and the , , the pleasing thing with Fox one , in addition to the fact that the subscribers to date are truly , incremental , we've seen that , , through our , our , our data and our numbers , , , you know , we are not , , churning , , any traditional , , MVP customers , which are incredibly valued , valuable to us .
Speaker #1: We are huge supporters of the , , the empty marketplace . , and so these are new subscribers , incremental subscribers that come from outside the traditional , , ecosystem .
Speaker #1: And so that's , that's very encouraging . But the second thing that's encouraging is the churn has been , you know , well below our expectations .
Speaker #1: And looks , looks like it's continuing that in the first quarter . .
Speaker #3: Next question please .
Gabrielle Brown: Next question, please.
Speaker #4: We have a question from Sean Diffley of Morgan Stanley . Please go ahead
Operator: We have a question from Shannon Gisela of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Great . Thanks very much , Tim . Two , if I may , first , on political . Any thoughts on how ad revs are shaping up into this cycle relative to prior ?
Shannon Gisela: Great. Thanks very much, team. Two if I may. First on political, any thoughts on how ad revs are shaping up into this cycle relative to prior? On capital allocation, obviously, Roku deal announced. You're still buying back stock. Anything we should think about in terms of being able to buy back more stock over the course of the next fiscal year? Thanks.
Speaker #6: And then on capital allocation , obviously , , Roku deal , , announced you're still buying back stock . Anything we should think about in terms of being able to buy back more stock ?
Speaker #6: , over the course of the next fiscal year . Thanks
Speaker #1: , sure . Hey , Sean . So , , I'll answer it . Political . Steve . Can can can talk to the rest of the question .
Lachlan Murdoch: Sure. Hey, Sean. I'll answer political, Steve can talk the rest of the question. Political ad sales, it looks like. Well, I'll start by saying the independent political ad tracking firms are estimating over $11 billion of political ad spending in the upcoming midterm election. This, combined with what we are already seeing in an off-cycle year, strong political revenue, we believe this will be a record midterm cycle for us. Just to put that in context, in the presidential election, not the midterm cycle, but the presidential election in 2024, we saw over $400 million of political revenue. Two years before that, the last midterm cycle, we did over $260 million in revenue. We would expect this midterm cycle to beat that and be a record cycle.
Speaker #1: So , , political ad sales , , you know , it looks like . Well , I'll start I'll start by saying the , , independent political ad tracking .
Speaker #1: Firms are estimating over $11 billion of political ad spending in the upcoming midterm election . , this , , combined with , you know what we're already seeing in an off cycle year , political revenue .
Speaker #1: We believe this will be a record , , , midterm cycle for us just to put that in context , in the presidential election .
Speaker #1: So not , not the midterm cycle , but the presidential election in 2024 . We saw over $400 million of political revenue . And then two years , , before that , the last the last midterm cycle , we did over $260 million in revenue .
Speaker #1: And we would expect this midterm cycle to be , , to beat that and be a , be a record cycle .
Speaker #2: Yeah . So , Sean , in terms of capital allocation , listen , we , we ended the year with the balance sheet exactly where we expected it to be as we were planning out the Roku transaction , you remember the Roku , , sort of the coordinates on the deal from a leverage perspective .
Steve Tomsic: Yeah. Sean, in terms of capital allocations, we ended the year with the balance sheet exactly where we expected it to be as we were planning out the Roku transaction. You remember the Roku, sort of the coordinates on the deal from a leverage perspective, see us close the deal at about net leverage of 2.8 times. The structure of that deal gives us an incredible amount of capital allocation flexibility. You should expect that our buyback program continues unabated through the pendency of the transaction and beyond it.
Speaker #2: See us , , close the deal at about net leverage of 2.8 times . And so the structure of that deal gives us an incredible amount of capital allocation flexibility .
Speaker #2: So you should expect that our buyback program continues unabated through the pendency of the transaction and beyond . It .
Speaker #3: We have time for one more question.
Gabrielle Brown: We have time for one more question.
Speaker #4: We have a question from David Karnovsky of J.P. Morgan . Please go ahead .
Operator: We have a question from David Karnofsky of JP Morgan. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Hey , thank you . , Lachlan , I appreciate you can't give comments around the NFL conversations , but can you maybe shed any light into what you're thinking was around engaging with the league now versus entering a more open market after 29 ?
David Karnofsky: Hey, thank you. Lachlan, I appreciate you can't give comments around the NFL conversations, but can you maybe shed any light into what your thinking was around engaging with the league now versus entering in a more open market after 2029? When we look at the rights landscape, there's a lot in the pipeline in the next couple of years, including some things that you're the incumbent on, like MLB or World Cup. Just assuming the NFL would opt out, how are you thinking about your rights portfolio ahead of them?
Speaker #7: And then when we look at the rights landscape , there's a lot in the pipeline in the next couple of years , including some things that , you know , you're the incumbent on , like MLB or World Cup , just assuming the NFL would opt out .
Speaker #7: How are you thinking about , you know , your rights portfolio ahead of them ?
Speaker #1: Thanks , David . , so , , you know , it's we always , , on the side of , you know , not going into , you know , specifics about discussions with our partners , , but suffice to say that , you know , our relationship with the NFL is a , is an incredibly positive one .
Lachlan Murdoch: Thanks, David. We always err on the side of not going into specifics about discussions with our partners. Suffice to say that our relationship with the NFL is an incredibly positive one. We engage with them all the time. Obviously, we've been talking with them over the last period about the future of our rights, certainly for the next four years and then beyond the opt-out period. We feel we continue to have a great relationship with them and are in a good place. When we sit down and talk about the contractual extension of our rights after 2029 into the 2030 season or 2029 season, I think we'll do that much closer to that date. I'd point to the fact that we might have talked about on the last earnings call that in Mexico, we've just taken the NFL rights for Mexico.
Speaker #1: We engage with them all the time . Obviously , we've been talking with them over the last , , period about , you know , the future of our , our , , , of our rights .
Speaker #1: Certainly , you know , for the next four years . And then , and then beyond , , the opt out period . But we feel , you know , our , you know , we continue to have a great relationship with them in a good place .
Speaker #1: , you know , when we sit down and talk about , , the contractual , , extension of our rights , , after 2029 and the 2013 season or 2029 season , I think , , you know , we'll , , you know , we'll , we'll do that much closer to that date .
Speaker #1: , you know , I point to , , facts that we might have talked about in the last earnings call that in Mexico , you know , we've just taken NFL rights for Mexico .
Speaker #1: , you know , we continue to , , , to , to promote and amplify , , you know , their , their games and the league which , which , , we've been doing for the last 30 years .
Lachlan Murdoch: We continue to promote and amplify their games and the league, which we've been doing for the last 30 years. We're very pleased with the relationship, and we think we can see a clear path forward, certainly through the 2029 season and also beyond.
Speaker #1: So , so we're very pleased with the relationship . , and we think we can see a clear path forward , certainly through the 29th season .
Speaker #1: And also beyond
Speaker #3: Great . Thank you . At this point , we are out of time . But if you have any further questions , please give me or Charlie Costanzo a call .
Gabrielle Brown: Great. Thank you. At this point, we are out of time. If you have any further questions, please give me or Charlie Costanzo a call. Thanks so much for joining us today.
Speaker #3: Thanks so much for joining us today .
Speaker #1: Thanks, everyone. Thank you.
Lachlan Murdoch: Thanks, everyone.
Steve Tomsic: Thank you.
Lachlan Murdoch: Thank you.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude the Fox Corporation Q4 fiscal year 2026 earnings conference call. Thank you.