Q2 2026 Etsy Inc Earnings Call

August 6, 2026

Deb Wasser: Risks, uncertainties, and other important factors as noted in the shareholder letter posted to our website and in our most recent periodic reports. Any forward-looking statements that we make on this call are based on our beliefs and assumptions today, and we disclaim any obligation to update them. Also during the call, we'll present both GAAP and non-GAAP historical financial measures, which are reconciled to GAAP financial measures in today's shareholder letter posted on our IR website, along with the replay of this call. With respect to our outlook, a reconciliation of adjusted EBITDA margin guidance to the closest corresponding GAAP measure is not available without unreasonable efforts on a forward-looking basis due to the high variability, complexity, and low visibility with respect to the charges excluded from adjusted EBITDA.

Speaker #1: With uncertainty and other important factors, as noted in the shareholder letter posted to our website, and in our most recent periodic reports. Any forward-looking statements that we make on this call are based on our beliefs and assumptions today, and we disclaim any obligation to update them.

Speaker #1: Also, during the call, we'll present both GAAP and non-GAAP historical financial measures, which are reconciled to GAAP financial measures in today's shareholder letter posted on our IR website, along with the replay of this call.

Speaker #1: With respect to our outlook, a reconciliation of adjusted EBITDA, margin, guidance to the closest corresponding GAAP measure is not available without unreasonable efforts on a forward-looking basis to to the high variability, complexity, and low visibility with respect to the charges excluded from adjusted EBITDA.

Deb Wasser: As you review our shareholder letter in 10-Q, please keep in mind that on 30 July, we completed the sale of Depop to eBay. Etsy's results in those documents are presented on a continuing operations basis, while Depop's results are presented within discontinued operations. I also want to note that Reverb, which we sold in June of last year, is included in Q2 2025 continuing operations, whereas Q2 2026 reflects only the Etsy marketplace. This makes year-over-year continuing operations results not directly comparable, and we have included Etsy standalone marketplace comparisons where most relevant, in order to provide investors with a more meaningful basis for evaluating our go-forward operations. Financial results presented on this call cover our continuing operations or the Etsy marketplace only. With that, I'll turn it over to Kruti.

Speaker #1: our shareholder letter and 10-Q, please keep in As you review mind that on July 30, we completed the sale of DPOP to eBay. Etsy's results in those documents are presented on a continuing operations basis, while DPOP's results are presented within discontinued operations.

Speaker #1: I also want to note that Reverb, which we sold in June of last year, is included in Q2 2025 continuing operations, whereas Q2 2026 reflects only the Etsy marketplace.

Speaker #1: This makes year-over-year continuing operations results not directly comparable, and we have included Etsy standalone marketplace comparisons where most relevant, in order to provide investors with a more meaningful basis for evaluating our go-forward operations.

Speaker #1: Financial results presented on this call cover our continuing operations, or the Etsy marketplace only. With that, I'll turn it over to Kruti.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Deb, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us. Since I stepped into this role, I've been clear about three things. Our greatest strength is our differentiation as a human-centered marketplace.

Kruti Patel Goyal: Thanks, Deb, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us. Since I stepped into this role, I've been clear about three things. Our greatest strength is our differentiation as a human-centered marketplace. We have a massive market opportunity ahead of us, and realizing that opportunity requires clear strategic focus and disciplined execution. Our Q2 results reinforce our conviction that this focus is translating into stronger marketplace fundamentals and accelerating growth. We're encouraged by our progress and increasingly confident in our ability to create long-term shareholder value, reflected on our improved outlook for 2026 and our new $2 billion share repurchase authorization. Just as importantly, we continue to see significant opportunity to further strengthen relationships with our buyers and sellers to drive long-term marketplace value.

Speaker #2: We have a massive market opportunity ahead of us, and realizing that opportunity requires clear strategic focus and disciplined execution. Our second quarter results reinforce our conviction that this focus is translating into stronger marketplace fundamentals and accelerating growth.

Speaker #2: We're encouraged by our progress in increasingly confident in our ability to create long-term shareholder value, reflected on our improved outlook for 2026 and our new $2 billion share repurchase authorization.

Speaker #2: Just as importantly, we continue to see significant opportunity to further strengthen relationships with our buyers and sellers to drive long-term marketplace value. So today, I'll share how our strategic priorities are improving performance, as well as how we're evolving our organization to lay the foundation for Etsy's next stage of growth.

Kruti Patel Goyal: Today, I'll share how our strategic priorities are improving performance, as well as how we're evolving our organization to lay the foundation for Etsy's next stage of growth. Starting with our performance. Q2 GMS and revenue growth accelerated on a sequential basis, and we delivered healthy flow-through of revenue growth to adjusted EBITDA, again demonstrating the strength of our business model. Etsy Marketplace GMS grew year-over-year for the third consecutive quarter, reflecting continued improvement across marketplace fundamentals. GMS was $2.6 billion, up 7.5% year-over-year for the Etsy Marketplace. Revenue was $668 million, with take rate of 25.9%. Adjusted EBITDA was $195 million, or a 29.2% adjusted EBITDA margin. We're beginning to see how our four priorities reinforce one another to improve marketplace health and performance.

Speaker #2: Starting with our performance, second quarter GMS and revenue growth accelerated on a sequential basis and we delivered healthy flow-through of revenue growth to adjusted EBITDA, again demonstrating the strength of our business model.

Speaker #2: Etsy marketplace GMS grew year-over-year for the third consecutive quarter, reflecting continued improvement across marketplace fundamentals. GMS was 2.6 billion, up 7.5% year-over-year for the Etsy marketplace.

Speaker #2: Revenue was $668 million, with take rate of 25.9%. And adjusted EBITDA was $195 million, or a 29.2% adjusted EBITDA margin, we're beginning to see how our four priorities reinforce one another to improve marketplace health and performance.

Speaker #2: Discovery and matching help buyers find and connect with the right items, while loyalty and human connection give buyers more reasons to return. Together, these enable lasting relationships between buyers, sellers, and Etsy.

Kruti Patel Goyal: Discovery and matching help buyers find and connect with the right items, while loyalty and human connection give buyers more reasons to return. Together, these enable lasting relationships between buyers, sellers, and Etsy. We are seeing very clear signal that these efforts are improving our performance. Active buyers improved, growing by 350,000 sequentially to approximately 87 million, roughly stable on a year-over-year basis. Gross buyer additions accelerated, and habitual and repeat buyer cohorts, our most valuable buyers, each showed slight sequential growth for the first time since 2023. Trailing 12-month GMS per active buyer grew 2.8% year over year to $124. While higher seller listing prices remain a contributor, our work to elevate higher quality items on and offsite is increasingly playing a role.

Speaker #2: We're seeing very clear signal that these efforts are improving our performance. Active buyers improve, growing by 350,000 sequentially to approximately 87 million, roughly stable on a year-over-year basis.

Speaker #2: Gross buyer additions accelerated, and habitual and repeat buyer cohorts are most valuable buyers, each showed slight sequential growth for the first time since 2023.

Speaker #2: Trailing 12-month GMS per active buyer grew 2.8% year-over-year to 124 dollars, and while higher seller listing prices remain a contributor, our work to elevate higher quality items on and off-site is increasingly playing a role.

Speaker #2: While purchase frequency remains below prior-year levels, the year-over-year decline moderated compared to the first quarter—an early, encouraging signal that we're improving the overall customer experience.

Kruti Patel Goyal: While purchase frequency remains below prior year levels, the year-over-year decline moderated compared to Q1, an early encouraging signal that we are improving the overall customer experience. Our app continues to be a key growth driver, with mobile app growth accelerating sequentially, up 12.5% year over year, and visits per monthly active user and orders per visit both increasing year over year. We continue to see evidence of a healthier seller base, including year-over-year seller growth and stronger retention of prior year active sellers. We have a lot to cover today, so I will not review each of our priorities in the level of detail they are discussed in our shareholder letter, but here are a few updates I am most excited about. First, we are making Etsy's core differentiation more consistently visible and tangible throughout the experience.

Speaker #2: And our app continues to be a key growth driver, with mobile app growth accelerating sequentially up 12.5% year-over-year, and visits per monthly active user and orders per visit both increasing year-over-year.

Speaker #2: And we continue to see evidence of a healthier seller base, including year-over-year seller growth and stronger retention of prior year active sellers. We have a lot to cover today, so I won't review each of our priorities in the level of detail they're discussed in our shareholder letter, but here are a few updates I'm most excited about.

Speaker #2: First, we're making Etsy's core differentiation more consistently visible and tangible throughout the experience. We're bringing creativity, craftsmanship, and human connection to the forefront across both the marketplace and our brand marketing, which celebrates being human and the way Etsy sellers bring meaning to moments that matter.

Kruti Patel Goyal: We are bringing creativity, craftsmanship, and human connection to the forefront across both the marketplace and our brand marketing, which celebrates being human and the way Etsy sellers bring meaning to moments that matter, big and small. Second, we are making Etsy feel much more personal through richer buyer profiles, real-time personalization and search, and fresher content that helps buyers discover new shopping missions and more of Etsy sellers' unique inventory. Third, we are reaching younger buyers much earlier in their discovery journey by evolving the channels, content, and experiences where Etsy shows up. One example is our Olivia Rodrigo partnership, which combines an in-person activation with an exclusive merchandise collaboration.

Speaker #2: Big and small. Second, we're making Etsy feel much more personal through richer buyer profiles, real-time personalization in search, and fresher content that helps buyers discover new shopping missions and more of Etsy sellers' unique inventory.

Speaker #2: Third, we're reaching younger buyers much earlier in their discovery journey, by evolving the channels, content, and experiences where Etsy shows up. One example is our Olivia Rodrigo partnership, which combines an in-person activation with an exclusive merchandise collaboration.

Speaker #2: And our investments in YouTube and TikTok drove a fivefold increase in visits in those channels, from millennial and Gen Z audiences in the first half of 2026.

Kruti Patel Goyal: Our investments in YouTube and TikTok drove a fivefold increase in visits in those channels from Millennial and Gen Z audiences in H1 2026. Finally, we are continuing to evolve how we build loyalty across the marketplace, from testing new approaches for buyers to developing new ways to recognize and support the sellers who best represent what makes Etsy unique. Over the past year, we have sharpened our strategy, strengthened execution, and are encouraged by the progress we are seeing across the marketplace. We have inflected Etsy's year-over-year growth trajectory from high single-digit GMS declines in early 2025 to mid single-digit growth anticipated for the full year 2026, a more than 10 percentage point improvement in performance. As a result, we have even more conviction in our strategic direction to build the Etsy we envision.

Speaker #2: Finally, we're continuing to evolve how we build loyalty across the marketplace. From testing new approaches for buyers, to developing new ways to recognize and support the sellers who best represent what makes Etsy unique.

Speaker #2: Over the past year, we've sharpened our strategy, strengthened execution, and are encouraged by the progress we're seeing across the marketplace. We've inflected Etsy's year-over-year growth trajectory, from high single-digit GMS declines in early 2025 to mid-single-digit growth anticipated for the full year 2026, a more than 10 percentage point improvement in performance.

Speaker #2: As a result, we have even more conviction in our strategic direction to build the Etsy we envision. At the same time, we've gained additional clarity about the organization we'll need to deliver it.

Kruti Patel Goyal: At the same time, we've gained additional clarity about the organization we'll need to deliver it. We're announcing a restructuring of parts of our organization and a reduction of our workforce with most of the changes concentrated in our product and engineering group. We're changing our structure with fewer silos to reduce handoffs and with flatter, faster teams built to solve more broad and complex problems. We'll invest more deeply in the skills and capabilities we need to accelerate execution and impact. This is not a cost-cutting move. It's about leaning in during a period of strong momentum so that we can move faster and execute with even greater focus. We are deeply grateful to our departing colleagues for their service, dedication, and contributions, and we're committed to supporting them through this transition with care and respect.

Speaker #2: So we're announcing a restructuring of parts of our organization and a reduction of our workforce, with most of the changes concentrated in our product and engineering group.

Speaker #2: We're changing our structure, with fewer silos to reduce handoffs, and with flatter, faster teams built to solve more broad and complex problems. And we'll invest more deeply in the skills and capabilities we need to accelerate execution and impact.

Speaker #2: This is not a cost-cutting move; it's about leaning in during a period of strong momentum so that we can move faster and execute with even greater focus.

Speaker #2: We are deeply grateful to our departing colleagues for their service, dedication, and contributions, and we're committed to supporting them through this transition with care and respect.

Speaker #2: We know these decisions have a real impact on people's lives, and we didn't make them lightly. They reflect our conviction that focusing our investments in our team is the best way to build a stronger Etsy.

Kruti Patel Goyal: We know these decisions have a real impact on people's lives. We didn't make them lightly. They reflect our conviction that focusing our investments in our team is the best way to build a stronger Etsy. One of my responsibilities is to make decisions not only for the Etsy we are today, but also the Etsy we want to become. That means paying close attention to how the world around us is changing. Buyers are discovering products in new ways. Sellers have access to increasingly powerful tools to build their businesses. The expectations they have of Etsy continue to rise. By investing in the capabilities that matter most for the future of the marketplace, we believe Etsy will be better positioned to innovate more quickly and ultimately deliver more value for our customers, community, and shareholders. Thank you for your time this morning.

Speaker #2: One of my responsibilities is to make decisions not only for the Etsy we are today, but also the Etsy we want to become. That means paying close attention to how the world around us is changing.

Speaker #2: Buyers are discovering products in new ways, sellers have access to increasingly powerful tools to build their businesses, and the expectations they have of Etsy continue to rise.

Speaker #2: By investing in the capabilities that matter most for the future of the marketplace, we believe Etsy will be better positioned to innovate more quickly and ultimately deliver more value for our customers, community, and shareholders.

Speaker #2: Thank you for your time this morning. I'll turn the call over to Lanny for more insights on our Q2 performance, our outlook, and the financial implications of our restructuring plan.

Kruti Patel Goyal: I'll turn the call over to Lanny for more insights on our Q2 performance, our outlook, and the financial implications of our restructuring plan.

Speaker #1: Thanks, Kruti. Great to connect with all of you today. Kruti already covered Etsy marketplace GMS and our headline metrics, so I'll focus on revenue, profitability, capital allocation, and our outlook.

Lanny Baker: Thanks, Kruti. Great to connect with all of you today. Kruti already covered Etsy Marketplace GMS and our headline metrics. I'll focus on revenue, profitability, capital allocation, and our outlook. Revenue was $668 million in the Q2, up 6.2% on a continuing operations basis and 9.3% for the Etsy Marketplace standalone. Revenue growth accelerated in tandem with GMS strength. Both marketplace and services revenue at Etsy delivered solid year-over-year growth, increasing 8.4% and 11.2% respectively. Take rate remained healthy at 25.9% for the Q2, up 130 basis points year-over-year, including an approximate 80 basis point benefit from the Reverb divestiture. Meanwhile, Etsy Marketplace take rate also expanded year to year, primarily driven by Etsy Ads, where we're using machine learning to enhance relevance and improve seller budget pacing. Offsite Ads also contributed, benefiting from a tilt in paid marketing activity toward higher monetizing channels.

Speaker #1: Revenue was 668 million dollars in the second quarter, up 6.2% on a continuing operations basis, and 9.3% for the Etsy marketplace standalone. Revenue growth accelerated in tandem with GMS strength, and both marketplace and services revenue at Etsy delivered solid year-over-year growth, increasing 8.4% and 11.2%, respectively.

Speaker #1: Take rate remained healthy at 25.9% for the second quarter, up 130 basis points year-over-year, including an approximate 80 basis point benefit from the reverb devastature.

Speaker #1: Meanwhile, Etsy marketplace take rate also expanded year-to-year, primarily driven by Etsy ads, where we're using machine learning to enhance relevance and improve seller budget pacing.

Speaker #1: Offsite ads also contributed, benefiting from a tilt in paid marketing activity toward higher monetizing channels. On the operating expense side, we remained disciplined in the second quarter, while continuing to invest in areas with the clearest evidence of attractive returns.

Lanny Baker: On the operating expense side, we remained disciplined in Q2 while continuing to invest in areas with the clearest evidence of attractive returns. As Etsy Marketplace GMS growth has improved, we've gained leverage across marketing, product development, and G&A. Nearly half of the year-to-year growth in Etsy Marketplace revenue flowed through to adjusted EBITDA in the quarter, creating room to fund our top priorities while sustaining healthy profitability. Turning to capital allocation, our balance sheet remains strong. As of 30 June 2026, we held $1.3 billion in cash equivalents, and short and long-term investments, and we continue to generate significant cash. On a continuing operations basis, we converted 81% of adjusted EBITDA to free cash flow during the quarter. On top of this, we received $1.4 billion in cash proceeds from the sale of Depop at the end of last week.

Speaker #1: As Etsy marketplace GMS growth has improved, we've gained leverage across marketing, product development, and GNA. Nearly half of the year-to-year growth in Etsy marketplace revenue flowed through to adjusted EBITDA in the quarter, creating room to fund our top priorities while sustaining healthy profitability.

Speaker #1: Turning to capital allocation, our balance sheet remains strong, as of June 30, 2026, we held 1.3 billion dollars in cash, cash equivalents, and short and long-term investments.

Speaker #1: And we continued to generate significant cash, on a continuing operations basis we converted 81% of adjusted EBITDA to free cash flow during the quarter.

Speaker #1: And on top of this, we received 1.4 billion dollars in cash proceeds from the sale of Depop at the end of last week. Many of you have expressed interest in when or how we would step up our share of purchases, given the cash coming in from the sale of Depop.

Lanny Baker: Many of you have expressed interest in when or how we would step up our share repurchases given the cash coming in from the sale of Depop. I'm pleased to report we've already done so. During Q2, we stepped up our buyback program and repurchased approximately $250 million in stock. That was roughly 70% more than Q1 and reduced the outstanding share count by approximately 3.9 million shares. At quarter's end, we had $578 million remaining on our current board-authorized share repurchase program, and we're announcing today a new $2 billion share repurchase program. The additional authorization reflects our growing confidence in strategic execution and will enable us to continue the return of excess capital to shareholders and accelerate our buyback program with the proceeds from the sale of Depop.

Speaker #1: I'm pleased to report we've already done so. During the second quarter, we stepped up our buyback program and repurchased approximately 250 million in stock.

Speaker #1: That was roughly 70% more than the first quarter, and reduced the outstanding share count by approximately 3.9 million shares. At quarter's end, we had 578 million dollars remaining on our current board-authorized share of purchase program.

Speaker #1: And we're announcing 2 billion share of purchase program. The additional authorization reflects our growing confidence in strategic execution and will enable us to continue the return of excess capital to shareholders, and accelerate our buyback program with the proceeds from the sale of Depop.

Speaker #1: As outlined in our shareholder letter, the restructuring plan will reduce the size of our workforce by roughly 220 employees, or approximately 12%. Following the restructuring, our headcount is expected to be approximately 1,600 people.

Lanny Baker: As outlined in our shareholder letter, the restructuring plan will reduce the size of our workforce by roughly 220 employees or approximately 12%. Following the restructuring, our headcount is expected to be approximately 1,600 people. We expect to incur approximately $35 million in charges, largely made up of cash expenditures associated with severance payments, employee benefits, and related costs. We anticipate that the charges will be incurred and the execution of the restructuring plan will be substantially complete by the end of Q3 2026. Now, turning to our outlook. We currently anticipate that Etsy Marketplace Q3 GMS will be between $2.53 and $2.58 billion, representing year-over-year growth of approximately 4% to 6% for the quarter. We expect Q3 take rate to be approximately 26% and adjusted EBITDA margin to be within a range of 28% to 30%.

Speaker #1: We expect to incur approximately 35 million in charges, largely made up of cash expenditures associated with severance payments and employee benefits, and related costs.

Speaker #1: We anticipate that the charges will be incurred, and the execution of the restructuring plan will be substantially complete by the end of the third quarter of 2026.

Speaker #1: Now, turning to our outlook, we currently anticipate that Etsy marketplace third-quarter GMS will be between 2.53 and 2.58 billion dollars. Representing year-over-year growth of approximately 4 to 6% for the quarter.

Speaker #1: We expect third-quarter take rate to be approximately 26%, and adjusted EBITDA margin to be within a range of 28 to 30%. For the full year, we now expect the Etsy marketplace to sustain a bit stronger GMS growth momentum across the second half of the year, than we anticipated previously.

Lanny Baker: For the full year, we now expect the Etsy Marketplace to sustain a bit stronger GMS growth momentum across H2 than we had anticipated previously. Accordingly, we anticipate that GMS growth at Etsy will be in the mid-single digit range for the full year 2026. We currently expect full year take rate to be roughly equal to what we've reported in H1, and our full year adjusted EBITDA margin outlook tightens upward to 29% to 30%. We expect the restructuring to lower operating costs in the near term, and we've incorporated an expected benefit into our increased full year adjusted EBITDA margin outlook. We believe that higher GMS and revenue growth sustained over time can create far greater absolute cash flow and shareholder value than can margin expansion alone.

Speaker #1: Accordingly, we anticipate that GMS growth at Etsy will be in the mid-single-digit range for the full year 2026. We currently expect full-year take rate to be roughly equal to what we've reported in the first half of the year, and our full-year adjusted EBITDA margin outlook tightens upward to 29 to 30%.

Speaker #1: We expect the restructuring to lower operating costs in the near term, and we've incorporated an expected benefit into our increased full-year adjusted EBITDA margin outlook.

Speaker #1: We believe that higher GMS and revenue growth sustained over time can create far greater absolute cash flow and shareholder value than can margin expansion alone.

Speaker #1: Accordingly, our objective in the restructuring is to not only extend the expense discipline we've demonstrated historically, but also to position ourselves to build the organization necessary to execute our strategy and accelerate growth in the years ahead.

Lanny Baker: Accordingly, our objective in the restructuring is to not only extend the expense discipline we've demonstrated historically, but also to position ourselves to build the organization necessary to execute our strategy and accelerate growth in the years ahead. Specifically, we intend to deepen our expertise in strategically critical areas across product, engineering, and customer operations, with a particular focus on expanding and strengthening our team's machine learning skills. We also plan to explore additional R&D investment in new product capabilities, marketing initiatives, customer trust, and international growth to accelerate our learnings in 2026 and inform our plans for 2027. We will be purposeful and disciplined in the investments we make, and we remain committed to maintaining the very attractive profit margin profile of our business. With that, we'll now turn it over to the operator to take your questions.

Speaker #1: Specifically, we intend to deepen our expertise in strategically critical areas across product, engineering, and customer operations, with a particular focus on expanding and strengthening our team's machine learning skills.

Speaker #1: We also plan to explore additional R&D investment in new product capabilities, marketing initiatives, customer trust, and international growth to accelerate our learnings in 2026 and inform our plans for 2027.

Speaker #1: We will be purposeful and disciplined in the investments we make, and we remain committed to maintaining the very attractive profit margin profile of our business.

Speaker #1: With that, we'll now turn it over to the operator to take your questions.

Speaker #2: Thank you.

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Speaker #3: Okay, our first question will come from Rick Patel with Raymond James. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #4: Thank you. Good morning, and congrats on the progress. Can you dig deeper on what you think are the most effective drivers of strong and improved GMS growth in Q2?

Rick Patel: Thank you. Good morning, and congrats on the progress. Can you dig deeper on what you think are the most effective drivers of strong and improved GMS growth in Q2? What's working and where do you see the most opportunity for improvement? Second, can you provide additional color on the initiative to improve discovery among young buyers? How will you tackle this, and are you seeing early signs of progress?

Speaker #4: What's working, and where do you see the most opportunity for improvement? And second, can you provide additional color on the initiative to improve discovery among young buyers?

Speaker #4: How will you tackle this, and are you seeing early signs of progress?

Speaker #5: Thanks for the question, Rick. First of all, I think what I would say is that what we're seeing is the result of strong execution against a clear set of strategic priorities.

Kruti Patel Goyal: Thanks for the question, Rick. First of all, I think what I would say is that what we're seeing is the result of strong execution against a clear set of strategic priorities. The results that we're seeing are exactly what we thought we would, what we expected when we laid out these priorities. Just as a reminder, you shouldn't think about them as independent initiatives. They're designed to reinforce one another, to create a stronger marketplace over time, and we're seeing those marketplace health indicators in the quarterly results that we shared. The clearest examples of how this is working are in how our product and marketing improvements are working together to drive growth this quarter. First, at the top of the funnel, our marketing is becoming more efficient at bringing buyers in.

Speaker #5: And the results that we're seeing are exactly what we thought we would, what we expected when we laid out these priorities, just as a reminder.

Speaker #5: They are not you shouldn't think about them as independent initiatives. They're designed to reinforce one another, to create a stronger marketplace over time. And we're seeing that market those marketplace health indicators in the quarterly results that we shared.

Speaker #5: The clearest examples of how this is working are in how our product and marketing improvements are working together to drive growth this quarter. So first, at the top of the funnel, our marketing is becoming more efficient at bringing buyers in.

Kruti Patel Goyal: We're continuing to see strength in own channels like SEO, and we've improved our PLA performance really meaningfully through better segmentation and bidding strategies that direct spend towards our highest quality inventory and bring in the right buyers more efficiently. Once those buyers arrive, they're landing on a meaningfully better experience as a result of the on-site product improvements that we're making. We've made really steady improvements across discovery and matching, from real-time search personalization to more relevant recommendations, and a fresher home feed. These are examples of improvements that are helping buyers find more relevant inventory, discover new shopping missions, and really engage more deeply with Etsy over time. Then I think the third part of this is that as buyers are engaging more, we are developing a richer understanding of what they're looking for and what makes them tick.

Speaker #5: We're continuing to see strength in own channels like SEO, and we've improved our PLA performance really meaningfully through better segmentation and bidding strategies. The direct spend towards our highest quality inventory and bring in the right buyers more efficiently.

Speaker #5: Then once those buyers arrive, they're landing on a meaningfully better experience as a result of the on-site product improvements that we're making. We've made really steady improvements across discovery and matching.

Speaker #5: From real-time search personalization, to more relevant recommendations, and a fresher home feed. So these are examples of improvements that are helping buyers find more relevant inventory, discover new shopping missions, and really engage more deeply with Etsy over time.

Speaker #5: And then I think the third part of this is that as buyers are engaging more, we are developing a richer understanding of what they're looking for and what makes them tick.

Speaker #5: That's powering richer buyer profiles that we highlighted in our shareholder letter, and they're now covering over 65 million buyers. And that makes if you think about it, that makes every subsequent visit that these buyers make more relevant and more personalized, and that creates supply wheel that gets stronger over time.

Kruti Patel Goyal: That's powering richer buyer profiles that we highlighted in our shareholder letter, and they're now covering over 65 million buyers. If you think about it, that makes every subsequent visit that these buyers make more relevant and more personalized, and that creates the flywheel that gets stronger over time. I just call out that, again, the app is probably our clearest proof point of how this is all working together. Our app GMS growth accelerated again to 12.5% year over year. We saw stronger engagement this quarter with both visits per monthly active and orders per visit increasing year over year. It's just a great example of how the work that we're doing across both marketing and product are working together to drive that flywheel.

Speaker #5: And I just call out that, again, the app is probably our clearest proof point of how this is all working together. Our app GMS growth accelerated again to 12.5% year over year.

Speaker #5: We saw stronger engagement this quarter with both visits per monthly active and orders per visit increasing year over year. And it's just a great example of how the work that we're doing across both marketing and product are working together to drive that flywheel.

Speaker #6: And then the second question for the was, can we provide additional color on the younger buyers and how that's working?

Deb Wasser: Then the second question, Kruti, was can we provide additional color on the younger buyers and how that's going?

Speaker #5: Yeah. What I'll say about our younger buyers, we saw some really nice improvement this quarter in terms of how we're engaging them. And I'll start out by saying our research showed that our value proposition resonates with this younger audience.

Kruti Patel Goyal: Yeah. What I'll say about our younger buyers, we saw some really nice improvements this quarter in terms of how we're engaging them. I'll start out by saying, our research showed that our value proposition resonates with this younger audience as much as it does with older audiences. What wasn't happening was that we weren't showing up where these shoppers are discovering and with relevant content, as much as we could. That's really where we've been focused. You see that in the shift in our marketing investments, shifting our investment to social channels, to OTT, the places that younger shoppers shop, and really focused on both putting in front of them content that is more relevant, and showing up in cultural moments that are really relevant.

Speaker #5: As much as it does with older audiences, but what wasn't happening was that we weren't showing up where these shoppers are discovering and with relevant content.

Speaker #5: As much as we could. And that's really where we've been focused. So you see that in the shift in our marketing investments, shifting our investment to social channels, to OTT, the channels that are the places that younger shoppers shop, and really focused on both putting in front of them content that is more relevant and showing up in cultural moments that are really relevant.

Speaker #5: So the work that we're doing on creator collective, to engage influencers, to elevate and curate the content that we have on Etsy for these younger buyers, and the example of the partnership that we're doing with Olivia Rodrigo, which is a really innovative partnership that's incredibly relevant to this audience.

Kruti Patel Goyal: The work that we're doing on Creator Collective to engage influencers, to elevate and curate the content that we have on Etsy for these younger buyers. The example of the partnership that we're doing with Olivia Rodrigo, which is a really innovative partnership that's incredibly relevant to this audience. Those are all examples of how we're really approaching that younger audience differently, and we're seeing great traction, particularly on channels like YouTube and TikTok, where we've meaningfully increased our reach to that audience segment.

Speaker #5: Those are all examples of how we're really approaching that younger audience differently, and we're seeing great traction, particularly on channels like YouTube and TikTok.

Speaker #5: We're meaningfully increased our reach to that audience segment.

Deb Wasser: Great. Next question from .

Speaker #6: Great. Next question.

Speaker #4: Thank you.

Speaker #3: Your next question will come from Nathan Feather with Morgan Stanley.

Operator: Your next question will come from Nathan Feather with Morgan Stanley.

Speaker #7: Hey, everyone. Thanks so much for taking the question. Too, if I may. First, in terms of the AOV gains that you've seen here, historically, we've seen more limited uptake from sellers.

Nathan Feather: Hey, everyone. Thanks so much for taking the question. Two, if I may. First, in sort of the AOV gains that you've seen here, historically, we've seen more limited uptake from sellers. How sustainable do you think that can be if trade changes normalize? Then on the buyer splits, really encouraging to see repeat individual buyers take a step forward here. How can we think through what have been the key elements that have allowed that to stabilize and what's the run rate to start to get that to grow as a portion of the mix relative to the one-off buyers? Thank you.

Speaker #7: How sustainable do you think that can be if trade changes normalize? And then on the buyer splits, really encouraging to see repeat and habitual buyers take a step forward here.

Speaker #7: How can we think through what have been the key elements that have allowed that to stabilize? And what's the run rate to start to get that to grow as a portion of the mix relative to the one-off buyers?

Speaker #7: Thank you.

Speaker #2: Sure. Thanks, Nathan. On AOV, what we've seen over the last, call it, year, year plus is the effect of the tariffs that went in a year ago, and then the expiration of de minimis, and then getting through the holiday season, and sellers seeming to kind of readjust their pricing.

Lanny Baker: Sure. Thanks, Nathan. On AOV, what we've seen over the last, call it year plus, is the effect of the tariffs that went in a year ago, then the expiration of de minimis, then getting through the holiday season, and sellers seeming to kind of readjust their pricing led to a series of waves of increases in listing prices that don't necessarily flow through to average order value. We have seen our buyers be very receptive to those price changes. What's happened on the listings prices has, over time, come through to average order value. There's another dynamic, and there's been a little bit of, less so in the last quarter, but in a couple of prior quarters, there was a little bit of foreign currency translation tailwind in there as well.

Speaker #2: Led to a series of waves of increases in listing prices that don't always don't necessarily throw through to average order value. But we have seen our buyers be very receptive to those price changes.

Speaker #2: And so what's happened on the listings prices has over time come through to average order value. There's another dynamic, and there's been a little bit of less so in the last quarter, but in a couple of prior quarters, there was a little bit of foreign currency translation tailwind in there as well.

Speaker #2: But I'd say most importantly, the thing that's changing, sort of the new signal that's started to emerge across 2026, is that the efforts that we've undertaken on relevance and quality that we are surfacing in the Etsy search results, is starting to present items that are higher quality with a little bit higher listings price that are better matches for what the customers are looking for.

Lanny Baker: I'd say most importantly, the thing that's changing, sort of the new signal that started to emerge across 2026, is that the efforts that we've undertaken on relevance and quality that we are surfacing in the Etsy search results is starting to present items that are higher quality with a little bit higher listing price that are better matches for what the customers are looking for. We're not making those changes in relevance and quality in an effort to drive AOV. We're really making them in an effort to better serve what our customers are looking for. Those improvements in the way that we're surfacing the best inventory is contributing on an increasing basis to the momentum that we have in AOV.

Speaker #2: And we're not making those changes in relevance and quality in an effort to drive AOV. We're really making them in an effort to better serve what our customers are looking for.

Speaker #2: But those improvements in the way that we're surfacing the best inventory is contributing on an increasing basis to the momentum that we have in AOV.

Speaker #2: So as you asked the question kind of forward-looking, I think that we are only getting started with things that we can do to continue to elevate high-quality items that really match what customers are looking for.

Lanny Baker: As you asked the question kind of forward-looking, I think that we are only getting started with things that we can do to continue to elevate high-quality items that really match what customers are looking for. Secondly, I think the sort of increases in listing prices that have been taken, I think those, in our experience, those, I think, will turn out to be fairly durable increases. The year-over-year increase will probably slow down unless there are other stimulants that the sellers are reacting to. The increases they've made in listing prices, our expectation is those remain pretty durable going forward. Your second question was about the composition of buyer growth and the growing, for the first time in three years, the little bit of progress that we made in active buyers and habitual buyers.

Speaker #2: And then secondly, I think the sort of increases in listing prices that have been taken, I think those in our experience, those I think will turn out to be fairly durable increases.

Speaker #2: The year-over-year increase will probably slow down unless there are other stimulants that the sellers are reacting to. But the increases they've made in listing prices are expectation is those remain pretty durable going forward.

Speaker #2: Your second question was about the composition of buyer. Buyer growth and the growing for the first time in three years, the little bit of progress that we made in active buyers and habitual buyers.

Speaker #2: And in habitual buyers and repeat buyers are really just our most frequent buyers. And everything in our strategy is bless you, is organized around making the whole product end-to-end experience better, for our customers that brings them back more often and builds loyalty and through that drives frequency.

Lanny Baker: Habitual buyers and repeat buyers are really just our most frequent buyers, and everything in our strategy is, bless you, is organized around making the whole product end-to-end experience better for our customers that brings them back more often and builds loyalty, and through that, drives frequency. You're seeing, I think, in those metrics, just that earliest hint of everything that Kruti talked about a minute ago starting to come to fruition. How do we continue to drive that? Well, it's about showing up where they are. It's about giving them relevant results. It's about personalizing the experience. It's about rewarding them for being Etsy customers. It's about reaching back out to them through our own channels. It's about improving our product experience. There's really not new news there, but there is, I think, new signs of progress that we are making.

Speaker #2: So you're seeing, I think, in those metrics just that earliest hint of everything that Kruti talked about a minute ago, starting to come to fruition.

Speaker #2: And how do we continue to drive that? Well, it's about showing up where they are. It's about giving them relevant results. It's about personalizing the experience.

Speaker #2: It's about rewarding them for being Etsy customers. It's about reaching back out to them through our own channels. It's about improving our product experience.

Speaker #2: So there's really not new news there, but there is, I think, new signs of progress that we are making. And while those numbers are improving, I'm really we're excited at the same time that the gross addition number of new people, of customers coming new into Etsy for the first time or coming back to Etsy has accelerated.

Lanny Baker: While those numbers are improving, we're excited at the same time that the gross addition number of new people, of customers coming new into Etsy for the first time or coming back to Etsy, has accelerated. We kind of have this, we're in a good moment right now where at the top of the funnel, we're opening it up a little bit wider, and then on our most valuable buyers, we're starting to see growth kind of on the back end of the funnel. That's really what we've been driving for.

Speaker #2: So we kind of have this we're in this a good moment right now where at the top of the funnel, we're opening it up a little bit wider.

Speaker #2: And then on our most valuable buyers, we're starting to see growth kind of on the back end of the funnel. And that's really what we've been driving for.

Speaker #6: Great. Thanks, Lonnie. Next question.

Deb Wasser: Great. Thanks, Marty. Next question.

Speaker #3: Your next question will come from Ken Gavroski with Wells Fargo.

Operator: Your next question will come from Ken Gawrelski with Wells Fargo.

Speaker #8: Thank you. Appreciate it. Maybe if I may, could you talk about there's many new models of both distribution and kind of emerging use cases in e-commerce.

Ken Gawrelski: Thank you. Appreciate it. Maybe if I may, could you talk about, there's many new models of both distribution, and kind of emerging use cases, in e-commerce, and I'd love to get your take on how they may or may not fit with Etsy and the platform and your merchants. Could you talk about the opportunity in live commerce, one, and two, you're seeing players like a Whatnot, et cetera, that have kind of a unique take, maybe they're positive, maybe they're negative, but they're certainly different takes on the e-commerce experience, some of those B2C, some of C2C. I'd be curious as you think about your seller base, and maybe they're thinking about innovative ways to sell their products and market their products, how these may or may not fit with Etsy. Thank you.

Speaker #8: And I'd love to get your take on how they may or may not fit with Etsy and the platform and your merchants? Could you talk about the opportunity in live commerce one?

Speaker #8: And two, you're seeing players like a Whatnot, et cetera, that have kind of a unique take—maybe they're positive, maybe they're negative—but they're certainly different takes on the e-commerce experience.

Speaker #8: Some of those B2C, some of the C2C. But I'd be curious as to as you think about your seller base and maybe they're thinking about innovative ways to sell their products and market their products.

Speaker #8: How these may or may not fit with Etsy? Thank you.

Speaker #5: Yeah, that's a great question. Thank you for it. One of our priorities is showing up for shoppers discovering us, so that's something we're always thinking about.

Kruti Patel Goyal: It's a great question. Thank you for it. One of our priorities is showing up where shoppers discover. This is something we're always thinking about. This is the driving force behind us partnering with AI, with agentic commerce, and showing up in those channels. We're thinking about the full range of those distribution channels for our sellers, where as it relates to live shopping in particular. Look, it's a really interesting space that's been developing and evolving for a while. What we're seeing is that live shopping is starting to gain traction beyond the collectible space where it was most popular initially. We think that there's some potential opportunity for sellers like ours who have a really great story to tell, who have a lot to share about how they create what they create, that's relevant to a buying audience.

Speaker #5: This is the driving force behind us partnering with AI with agentic commerce and showing up in those channels. So we're, as I we're thinking about the full range of those distribution channels for our sellers.

Speaker #5: Where as it relates to live shopping in particular, look, it's a really interesting space that's been developing and evolving for a while. And what we're seeing is that they're starting live shopping is starting to gain traction beyond the collectible space where it got where it was most popular initially.

Speaker #5: And we think that there's some potential opportunity for sellers like ours, who have a really great story to tell, who have a lot to share about how they create what they create that's relevant to a buying audience.

Speaker #5: So we're certainly open to exploring this, though we don't have plans at the moment, to launch anything in live shopping. We think it's an interesting potential channel.

Kruti Patel Goyal: We're certainly open to exploring this. We don't have plans at the moment to launch anything in live shopping. We think it's an interesting potential channel for sellers like ours.

Speaker #5: For sellers like ours.

Speaker #3: Your next question will come from Marvin Fong with BTIG.

Operator: Your next question will come from Marvin Fong with BTIG.

Marvin Fong: Great. Thanks for taking my questions. Congratulations on the progress. I'd love to double-click on what Lanny was saying about investing on new products. Should we kind of think about that as going deeper in the initiatives that you're already exploring, including AI? Without giving up the store, are you exploring just completely different products outside of your existing strategy? Just a question on, now that we've seen gas prices kind of go back and forth, giving us a little bit larger sample set, are you seeing any kind of impact from the rise and fall of gas prices on your business in terms of buyer behavior? Thank you.

Speaker #8: Great. Thanks for taking my questions and congratulations on the progress. I'd love to double-click on what Lonnie was saying about investing on new products.

Speaker #8: Should we kind of think about that as going deeper in the initiatives that you're already exploring, including AI, or without giving out the store, would you are you exploring just completely different products outside of your existing strategy?

Speaker #8: And then just a question on now that we've seen gas prices kind of go back and forth, giving us a little bit larger sample set, are you seeing any kind of impact from that the rise and fall of gas prices on your business in terms of buyer behavior?

Speaker #8: Thank you.

Kruti Patel Goyal: I'll take the first part and then pass to you. Look, the way that I would think about this is that over the last year, we've gotten much more confident in our strategic priorities and the drivers of long-term growth. We're seeing really great evidence that shows that our work across discovery, matching, personalization, is really working. That's what you're hearing. When we say we're going to invest more, I think this is related to the changes that we've made in our team, where we have greater clarity about the organization, the capabilities that we need to build on that momentum, and drive even more value for our buyers and sellers. We're going to be continuing to deepen our investment and our focus on our strategic priorities to continue to deliver and build on that momentum.

Speaker #5: I'll take the first part and then pass to you. Look, the way that I would think about this is that over the last year, we've gotten much more confident in our strategic priorities and the drivers of long-term growth.

Speaker #5: We're seeing really great evidence that shows that our work across discovery, matching, personalization is really working. That's what you're hearing. So when we say we're going to invest more, I think this is related to the changes that we've made in our team.

Speaker #5: We have greater clarity about the organization and the capabilities that we need to build on that momentum. And drive even more value for our buyers and sellers.

Speaker #5: And so we're going to be continuing to deepen our investment and our focus on our strategic priorities to continue to deliver and build on that momentum.

Speaker #2: Yeah, I would just add to zooming out a little bit. When you think about what's going on in live commerce or you think of what's going on in resale commerce, there is really exciting growth happening in these places where there's some real innovation both in the product and in the user experience and in the marketing.

Lanny Baker: Yeah, I would just add to this, zooming out a little bit, when you think about what's going on in live commerce or you think of what's going on in retail commerce, there is really exciting growth happening in these places where there's some real innovation, both in the product, in the user experience, and in the marketing, and it's growing the overall size of the market. These are not zero-sum opportunities. That really encourages us that as we continue to innovate on what makes Etsy differentiated, we can build on the growth that we've already started to build. On your second question about gas prices, yes, they've been up and down. It's hard to look at any one dynamic on the consumer side in isolation.

Speaker #2: And it's growing the overall size of the market. These are not zero-sum opportunities. And that really encourages us that as we continue to innovate on what makes Etsy differentiated, we can build on the growth that we've already started to build.

Speaker #2: On your second question about gas prices, yes, they've been up and down. And it's hard to look at any one dynamic on the consumer side in isolation.

Speaker #2: I think it's stands to reason that there is some impact from higher gas prices on consumer spending. But are consumer demand held up pretty well across the second quarter?

Lanny Baker: I think it stands to reason that there is some impact from higher gas prices on consumer spending, but our consumer demand held up pretty well across the second quarter. We saw growth in GMS in the United States, amongst US buyers as well as non-US buyers. We saw accelerated growth across, in particular, US import, US buyers and imports was a strong channel for us in the quarter. Really across all household income segments, we saw good numbers in this quarter. The high end's growing a little bit faster than the lower income households are. As we sort of zoom out, there's not a discernible impact right now from gas prices. I think our consumer demand picture has held up really well throughout the second quarter.

Speaker #2: We saw growth in GMS in the United States as well in amongst US buyers as well as non-US buyers. And we saw accelerated growth across in particular US import US buyers and imports was a strong channel for us in the quarter.

Speaker #2: And really across all household income segments, we saw a good numbers in this quarter. The high end is going a little bit faster than the lower income households are.

Speaker #2: But as we sort of zoom out, I would say there's not a discernible impact right now from gas prices. But I think our consumer demand picture has held up really well throughout the second quarter.

Deb Wasser: Exactly. Thanks, Marvin. Next question.

Speaker #5: That's great. Next question.

Speaker #3: Your next question will come from Maria Rips with Canaccord.

Operator: Your next question will come from Maria Ripps with Canaccord.

Speaker #7: Great. Good morning. Thanks so much for taking my questions. First, I just wanted to ask on workforce reduction, which is largely across product and engineering, but then at the same time, you're calling ML as kind of the core of discovery and personalization to sort of to accelerate growth further from here.

Maria Ripps: Great. Good morning. Thanks so much for taking my questions. First, I just wanted to ask on workforce reduction, which is largely across product and engineering, but then at the same time, you're calling ML as kind of the core of discovery and personalization to sort of accelerate growth further from here. Can you maybe give us a little bit more color on sort of how smaller teams move the roadmap faster and sort of what specifically are you choosing to stop doing that you focused on before?

Speaker #7: Can you maybe give us a little bit more color on sort of how smaller teams move the roadmap faster and sort of what specifically are you choosing to stop doing that you focused on before?

Speaker #5: Yeah, so first of all, I'll just say that we what we did is we asked teams to think about what the team that they needed were to deliver on our biggest growth ambitions.

Kruti Patel Goyal: Yeah. First of all, I'll just say that what we did is we asked teams to think about what the team that they needed were to deliver on our biggest growth ambitions. Starting with what the structure of the team was that they needed, what the skills were that they needed, and what the talent was that they needed. When we looked across product and engineering, we saw an opportunity to really simplify the organization. That's where the streamlining comes in, really this opportunity to reduce overlap by bringing teams together around shared problems or shared capabilities. That's what enables our product and engineering teams to move forward with more speed and more focus.

Speaker #5: And starting with what the structure of the team was that they needed, what the skills were that they needed, and what the talent was that they needed.

Speaker #5: And when we looked across product and engineering, we saw an opportunity to really simplify the organization and that's where this the streamlining comes in, really this opportunity to reduce overlap by bringing teams together around shared problems or shared capabilities.

Speaker #5: And that's what enables our product and engineering teams to move forward with more speed and more focus. The other part of that is this change allows us to reshape our talent mix around the capabilities that matter most for the next phase of growth.

Kruti Patel Goyal: The other part of that is this change allows us to reshape our talent mix around the capabilities that matter most for the next phase of growth, and that's really about continuing to deepen our investments in discovery, matching, and personalization. That's going to be about building really strong cross-functional teams and deepening our machine learning expertise, so we can translate advancements into better experiences at scale. We really see this as an investment in execution and in concentrating our talent, where we can have the greatest impact.

Speaker #5: And that's really about continuing to deepen our investments in discovery and matching and personalization. And so that's going to be about building really strong cross-functional teams, and deepening our machine learning expertise, so we can translate advancements into stronger better experiences at scale.

Speaker #5: So we really see this as an investment in execution and in concentrating our talent where we can have the greatest impact. Great. Thanks, Kruti.

Deb Wasser: Great. Thanks, Kruti. We'll take the next question.

Speaker #5: We'll take the next question.

Speaker #3: Your next question will come from Ana Andreva with Piper Sandler.

Operator: Your next question will come from Anna Andreeva with Piper Sandler.

[Analyst] (Piper Sandler): Hey. Great. Thanks so much for taking the question. This is Noah on for Anna. Just wanted to follow up on some of the drivers by category. You had mentioned gifting and personalization is working well. Curious what you're seeing in your bigger product verticals as well. Then just to follow up on gross margin, you've seen some compression on the higher compute costs. Should we expect that pressure to continue in 2026, and just any way we can think about that? Thanks.

Speaker #6: Hey, great. Thanks so much for taking the question. This is Noah. On for Ana. Just wanted to follow up on some of the drivers by category.

Speaker #6: You had mentioned gifting and personalization is working well. Curious for your seeing in your bigger product verticals, as well. And then just to follow up on gross margin, you've seen some compression on the higher compute costs.

Speaker #6: Should we expect that pressure to continue in 26 inches anyway? We can think about that. Thanks.

Deb Wasser: Kruti?

Lanny Baker: Sure. Let me start on the gross margin side of things. We're really happy where the gross margins are for the business. It's a healthy low 70s% number. We've seen a little bit of compression year to year, and it's not coming from compute. We are balancing the customer experience around trust and safety, around refunds, around other pressures on the marketplace to really deliver the best experience to customers, and there's some cost in there that shows up in cost of revenue. On the hosting and compute side, we are spending more money this year, obviously, on AI, and on usage of AI, and on compute.

Speaker #2: Sure. Let me start on the gross margin side of things. We're really happy with the gross where the gross margins are for the business.

Speaker #2: It's a healthy low 70s percent number. We've seen a little bit of compression year to year. And it's not coming from compute. We are balancing the customer experience around trust and safety, around refunds, around other pressures on the marketplace to really deliver the best experience to customers.

Speaker #2: And we're making and there's some cost in there that shows up in cost of revenue. On the hosting and compute side, what we are saying we are spending more money this year, obviously, on AI and on usage of AI and on compute.

Speaker #2: But the overall spending that we're doing on hosting and bandwidth and technology is exactly where we thought it would be this year. And we've been able to find offsets in other places and shifting usage patterns allow us to absorb the cost of the incremental compute without going higher on our overall sort of infrastructure costs.

Lanny Baker: The overall spending that we're doing on hosting and bandwidth and technology is exactly where we thought it would be this year, and we've been able to find offsets in other places, and shifting usage patterns allow us to absorb the cost of the incremental compute without going higher on our overall infrastructure costs. We feel really comfortable about our ability to continue to manage that AI cost, hosting bandwidth cost, as we look forward. Remind me of your first question.

Speaker #2: So we feel really comfortable about our ability to continue to manage that AI cost, hosting, bandwidth cost as we look forward. Remind me of your first question.

Speaker #6: We're just on some more color on the drivers by product category.

[Analyst] (Piper Sandler): Was just on some more color on the drivers by product category.

Lanny Baker: Verticals? Oh, on the verticals, we have reported at the end of the year how we do in categories. We've sort of moved away from that on a moment-by-moment basis because it's not necessarily how our buyers come to Etsy in a category. They come to Etsy for an occasion. This is an occasion-laden quarter, and we did really well on those occasions. I would tell you, if you looked across our categories, we grew in every one of our top categories, and we grew faster than our peer benchmarks in those categories in this quarter, including our biggest categories.

Speaker #2: Verticals. Oh, on the verticals, we have reported at the end of the year how we do in categories. We've sort of moved away from that on like a moment by moment basis because our it's not necessarily how our buyers come to Etsy in a category.

Speaker #2: They come to Etsy for an occasion. And we can talk more about how we did across this is an occasion-laden quarter and we did really well on those occasions.

Speaker #2: I would tell you like if you looked across our categories, we grew in every one of our top categories and we grew faster than our peer benchmarks in those categories in this quarter.

Speaker #2: Including our biggest categories. So but I think that strength in categories is less reflective of like something we're doing in a specific jewelry versus home and living than it is the way that we are showing up for our buyers in the right demographics across occasions.

Lanny Baker: I think that strength in categories is less reflective of something we're doing in a specific jewelry versus home and living than it is the way that we are showing up for our buyers in the right demographics across occasions.

Speaker #5: Great. Thanks, Lenny. If you asked what that data point for our performance, but just want to be clear. Okay, cool. Let's go to the next question.

Deb Wasser: Great. Thanks, Lanny. It was you asked with that data point for outperformance, I just wanted to be clear.

Lanny Baker: Yeah.

Deb Wasser: Okay, cool. Let's go to the next question.

Speaker #3: Your next question will come from Brian Smilek with JP Morgan.

Operator: Your next question will come from Brian Nowak with Morgan Stanley.

Brian Nowak: Great. Thanks for taking the question. I guess, Kruti, great to see Etsy getting into the zeitgeist here and targeting younger demographics. Can you just talk about how you can translate this brand activation towards more international markets as well? Just more broadly, can you share a bit more color on their LTV profile and conversion relative to some of your other legacy cohorts? Thank you.

Speaker #4: Great. Thanks for taking the question. I guess Kruti, great to see Etsy getting into the zeitgeist here and targeting younger demographics. Can you just talk about how you can translate this brand activation towards more international markets as well?

Speaker #4: And then just more broadly, can you share a bit more color on their LTV profile and conversion relative to some of your other legacy cohorts?

Speaker #4: Thank you.

Speaker #2: The so of the younger buyer, the LTVs are younger buyers. Yeah, I mean, the younger buyers have a little bit lower LTVs, but they have a lot higher growth rate in the LTVs because they're moving through life changes and compensation and other household formation and things like this that really give them in the near term, the LTV may not be as great, but the potential for growth in that cohort is really, really attractive.

Lanny Baker: The younger buyers, LTVs are-

Brian Nowak: Younger buyers

Lanny Baker: Yeah. The younger buyers have a little bit lower LTVs, but they have a lot higher growth rate in the LTVs because they're moving through life changes and compensation and other household formation and things like this that really give them, in the near term, the LTV may not be as great, but the potential for growth in that cohort is really, really attractive, and that's why we and others really go after it. We're pleased with sort of the beachhead that we are establishing, building those relationships today as we're bringing more of them into our business. The first part of the question was?

Speaker #2: And that's why we and others really go after it. And so we're pleased with sort of the beachhead that we are establishing, building those relationships today as we're bringing more of them into our business.

Speaker #2: And the first part of the question was.

Speaker #5: First question part of the question was about how we would be taking I think it was getting more zeitgeist kind of things going internationally.

Deb Wasser: First part of the question was about how he would be taking, I think it was getting more zeitgeist kind of thing, selling internationally. Was that what it was related to, Brian?

Speaker #5: Was that what it was related to, Brian?

Speaker #2: He's probably on mute.

Lanny Baker: He's probably on mute.

Deb Wasser: Oh.

Speaker #5: I mean, I think that the approach.

Kruti Patel Goyal: I think that the approach that we're-

Speaker #3: I'm not sure enabled if you need to respond.

Operator: Brian, we can go ahead and un-enable if you need to respond.

Deb Wasser: No, I think we got it.

Speaker #5: No, I think we got it. I was just going to say that I think that the approach that we're taking with younger buyers is one that we think works globally.

Kruti Patel Goyal: I was just going to say that I think that the approach that we're taking with younger buyers is one that we think works globally. There's not a specifically different approach that we're taking internationally. We're just going to keep doing more of what's working for us with these younger buyers.

Speaker #5: So there's not a specifically different approach that we're taking internationally. So we're just going to keep doing more of what's working for us with these younger buyers.

Speaker #5: Yeah. Perfect. Okay. Thank you. Let's go to the next question.

Deb Wasser: Yeah. Perfect. Okay. Thank you. Let's go to the next question.

Speaker #3: Your next question will come from Nick Jones with BNP Paribas.

Operator: Your next question will come from Nick Jones with BNP Paribas.

Speaker #7: Great. Thanks for taking the questions. One on enhancing buyer profiles, in a letter covering 65 million buyers, I think it's 3X kind of the data points.

Nick Jones: Great. Thanks for taking the questions. One on enhancing buyer profiles in the letter covering 65 million buyers. I think it's 3x, kind of the data points. I noticed the 65 million buyers is above the repeat and habitual combined. I guess, can you speak to what the funnel looks like to aggregate these data points and what it would take to drive that 65 million buyer number a bit higher? Thank you.

Speaker #7: I noticed that 65 million buyers is above kind of the repeat habitual combined. So I guess can you speak to what the funnel looks like to kind of aggregate these data points and what it would take to kind of drive that 65 million buyer number a bit higher?

Speaker #7: Thank you.

Speaker #5: I would just say that we can build these buyer profiles for all of our buyers. They're just richer. They get richer and richer. The more that you engage with us.

Kruti Patel Goyal: Should we just say that we can build these buyer profiles for all of our buyers. They're just richer. They get richer and richer the more that you engage with us. We see the potential for buyer profiles for all of our buyers. Obviously, we look at broader data than just your buyer profile if you're a relatively infrequent or newer buyer. What we think is exciting there is all the applications of where we can use that buyer profile to personalize your experience and make it richer, from the recommendations you get in your app home feed, to the marketing that we send you, to how we personalize your search results.

Speaker #5: So we see the potential for buyer profiles for all of our buyers. Obviously, we look at broader data than just your buyer profile. If we if you're a relatively infrequent or newer buyer, we think it's exciting there is all of the applications of where we can use that buyer profile to personalize your experience and make it richer from the recommendations you get in your app home feed to the marketing that we send you to how we personalize your search results.

Speaker #5: And so it's not just that we are able to expand the coverage of these buyer profiles. It's that we're collecting more and more valuable data in them and that we're able to apply them in more and more places in your experience end to end.

Kruti Patel Goyal: It's not just that we are able to expand the coverage of these buyer profiles, it's that we're collecting more and more valuable data in them, and then we're able to apply them in more and more places in your experience end to end.

Deb Wasser: Great. Perfect. Thank you. Next question.

Speaker #5: Great. Perfect. Thank you. Next question.

Speaker #3: Your next question will come from Michael Morton with Moffat Nathanson.

Operator: Your next question will come from Michael Morton with MoffettNathanson.

Speaker #6: Good morning. Can I be one on the shareholder letter you talk about growing direct relationships with our most active buyers by optimizing how you communicate with them and deliver kind of a more timely and relevant I guess recommendations.

Michael Morton: Good morning. Can I do one on the shareholder letter, you talk about growing direct relationships with our most active buyers by optimizing how you communicate with them and deliver kind of a more timely and relevant, I guess, recommendations. Kruti, I was wondering from someone being on the outside, could you give us some examples of what this looks like? Because we've all seen how powerful the big buyers can be on these larger platforms, how this will play out in the acquisition and I guess like reactivation of these big active buyers. Just a quick one for Lanny on some of the cost savings from the reorganization. Sounds like you're letting this flow through to the bottom line. I was wondering why not reinvest even more in marketing or if there's diminishing marginal returns there or anything along those lines would be great. Thank you.

Speaker #6: Kruti, I was wondering from someone being on the outside, could you give us some examples of what this looks like? Because we've all seen how powerful like the big buyers can be on these larger platforms.

Speaker #6: How this will play out in the acquisition and I guess like reactivation of these big active buyers. And then just a quick one for Lanny on some of the cost savings from the reorganization.

Speaker #6: Sounds like you're letting those flow through to the bottom line. I was wondering why not reinvest even more in marketing or if there's diminishing marginal returns there or anything along those lines would be great.

Speaker #6: Thank you.

Speaker #5: Just the first one, Kruti, was growing direct relationships. How are optimizing our communication looked at? The way that this should play out is we're really playing with two things with our most active buyers.

Deb Wasser: Just the first one, Kruti, was growing direct relationship-

Kruti Patel Goyal: Oh

Deb Wasser: with those-

Kruti Patel Goyal: Here's how we're optimizing our communication. Look, the way that this should play out is we're really playing with two things with our most active buyers. The relevance of the content that we show you, the personalization of the content that we show you, the freshness of the content that we show you, and how frequently we show it to you. Sometimes it's even more valuable to send fewer communications, especially to our most active buyers who are engaging with us all the time, and we're looking at that across both email and push. Really all of the channels where we're connecting with you. That's how I would think about that optimization work that we're doing around engaging with our most active buyers. It's because we have so much great information and content on you.

Speaker #5: The relevance of the content that we show you, the personalization of the content that we show you, the freshness of the content that we show you, and how frequently we show it to you.

Speaker #5: So sometimes it's even more valuable to send fewer communications, especially to our most active buyers who are engaging with us all the time. And we're looking at that across both email and push.

Speaker #5: And then really all of the channels where we're connecting with you. So that's how I would think about that optimization work that we're doing around engaging with our most active buyers.

Speaker #5: It's because we have so much great information and content on you. We want to make sure that we're optimizing every touch. And we have the frequency right as well.

Kruti Patel Goyal: We want to make sure that we're optimizing every touch, and we have the frequency right as well.

Speaker #4: And the second one.

Deb Wasser: The second one was for Lanny.

Lanny Baker: Michael, the reorganization is not intended to structurally alter Etsy's long-term margin profile. What we're really seeking is a more focused organization suited to execute on our strategy, and with all the strengths and skills that we think we need over the coming years. If we have those things, as we get those things, I think they pay off in growth, health of the marketplace, differentiation of Etsy, and ultimately the durability of growth comes from really having that more focused and really rightly suited team. We will be reinvesting some of the savings, if you will, into our people, into engineering talent, product talent, customer operations, and some of the R&D projects we talked about earlier. I think the kind of margin growth that we really like is the margin growth that comes from revenue and GMS growth.

Speaker #2: So Michael, the reorganization is not intended to structurally alter Etsy's long-term margin profile. What we're really seeking is a more focused organization suited to execute on our strategy and with all the strengths and skills that we think we need over the coming years.

Speaker #2: And if we have those things, as we get those things, I think they pay off in growth, health of the marketplace, differentiation of Etsy, and ultimately the durability of growth comes from really having that more focused and really rightly suited team.

Speaker #2: So we will be reinvesting some of the savings, if you will, into our people, into engineering talent, product talent, customer operations, and some of the R&D projects we talked about earlier.

Speaker #2: I think the kind of margin growth that we really like is the margin growth that comes from revenue and GMS growth. And in this quarter, 50% of the revenue growth went down to the bottom line.

Lanny Baker: In this quarter, 50% of the revenue growth went down to the bottom line. That's the stuff that really, we believe creates shareholder value. That's what we're aiming for. You talked about marketing. This is a quarter in which we got a good deal of leverage, and we're pretty proud of it in the marketing channel and in our marketing activities. I want to make the point, we are earning our growth there, not buying it. We have increased the efficiency in our more mature channels, i.e., search and PLAs. We are making ongoing learnings and having some nice wins in our less mature channels like social. We're being prudent about managing and optimizing the mix of those channels. I frankly think some of the messaging that we're doing in our brand campaigns, in our PLA relevance, in our social media, is also contributing there.

Speaker #2: That is the stuff that really we believe creates shareholder value. So that's what we're aiming for. And you talked about marketing. This is a quarter in which we got a good deal of leverage and we're pretty proud of it in the marketing channel and in our marketing activities.

Speaker #2: But I want to make the point we are earning our growth there, not buying it. We have increased the efficiency in our more mature channels, i.e., search and PLAs.

Speaker #2: We are making ongoing learnings and having some nice wins in our less mature channels like social. We're being prudent about managing and optimizing the mix of those channels.

Speaker #2: And I frankly think some of the messaging that we're doing in our brand campaigns, in our PLA relevance, in our social media, is also contributing there.

Speaker #2: So what we're seeing is we're just getting more GMS per dollar. And actually, that doesn't that's not declining marginal return. That's increasing marginal return.

Lanny Baker: What we're seeing is we're just getting more GMS per dollar. Actually that's not declining marginal return, that's increasing marginal return, that's sort of causing us to lean in on marketing. I don't want to send a signal at all that we are tapped out on investment. We're just at a point right now where we're having some really good gains in efficiency in marketing, which I think sets us up to continue to use that as a driver of growth in the future.

Speaker #2: And that's sort of causing us to lean in on marketing. So I don't want to send a signal at all that we are tapped out on investment.

Speaker #2: We're just at a point right now where we're having some really good gains in efficiency and marketing, but I think sets us up to continue to use that as a driver of growth in the future.

Speaker #5: Great. Thanks, Lanny. Next question.

Deb Wasser: Great. Thanks, Lanny. Next question.

Speaker #3: Your next question will come from Shwetak Ajariya with Wolf Research.

Operator: Your next question will come from Shweta Khajuria with Wolfe Research.

Speaker #7: Okay. Thank you for taking my question. Could you just to follow up on something that you were talking about earlier, Lanny? Which is on marketing spend.

Shweta Khajuria: Okay, thank you for taking my question. Just to follow up on something that you were talking about earlier, Lanny, which is on marketing spend. Could you please talk to what specifically has changed in your marketing spend where you're seeing spend and strategy, where you're seeing best returns on that spend, and how much of that runway do you have left ahead to drive potentially new and reactivated buyer growth? Second is, if you could please talk to mobile app users and how their engagement is different, and where you see runway for growth coming from app users as we think about frequency over time. Thank you.

Speaker #7: Could you please talk to if anything has what specifically has changed in your marketing spend where you're re seeing spend and strategy where you're seeing best returns on that spend and how much of that runway do you have left ahead to drive potentially new and reactivated buyer growth?

Speaker #7: And second is if you could please talk to mobile app users and how they're engagement is different and where you see runway for growth coming from app users as we think about frequency over time.

Speaker #7: Thank you.

Speaker #2: Sure. On the marketing front, I'll get into the details of kind of the mix and the channels and things we're doing there. But one of the secret weapons is the owned channels that we have of push and email and the mobile app where your question was how are we using these channels to bring attract new customers and bring them back.

Lanny Baker: Sure. On the marketing front, I'll get into the details of kind of the mix and the channels and things we're doing there. One of the secret weapons is the owned channels that we have of push and email and the mobile app. Your question was how are we using these channels to attract new customers and bring them back. Those owned channels have been really effective in helping us bring people back very efficiently. That's also happening in our greater marketing portfolio. In the places where we're spending media dollars in marketing, the competitive dynamic in PLA has changed over the last year as Amazon has pulled out. The bigger driver right now are internal wins that we've made in our marketing technology, particularly the way we segment the PLA feed that we give to Google.

Speaker #2: Those owned channels have been really effective in helping us bring people back very efficiently. So that's also happening in our greater marketing portfolio. But in the places where we're spending media dollars in marketing, the competitive dynamic in PLA has gotten has changed over the last year as Amazon has pulled out.

Speaker #2: But the bigger driver right now are internal wins that we've made in our marketing technology, particularly the way we segment the PLA feed that we give to Google. The way the information that we give them around listings is helping them, I think, place our listings with better, more competitive bids in a broader number of auctions. And we call it PLA segmentation—the way we're segmenting our feed is really helping us strike some really good advances right now in the performance of our most mature, most well-developed, most predictable marketing channels.

Lanny Baker: The information that we give them around listings is helping them, I think, place our listings with better, more competitive bids in a broader number of auctions, and we call it PLA segmentation. The way we're segmenting our feed is really helping us strike some really good advances right now in the performance of our most mature, most well-developed, most predictable marketing channels. That's been great. While that progress is happening, it allows us to flex and test and move around other parts of the overall portfolio. In terms of portfolio shifts, I would say we've talked about pushing a lot of money into social at times to then figure out what works best and then optimizing, and we're making some good gains right now optimizing our social channels.

Speaker #2: That's been great. While that progress is happening, it allows us to make flex and test and move around other parts of the overall portfolio.

Speaker #2: And in terms of portfolio shifts, I would say we are getting—we've talked about pushing a lot of money into social at times, so then figure out what works best and optimizing, and we're making some good gains right now optimizing our social channels.

Speaker #2: And the one other shift is moving away from linear and some of the older television or video advertising that we've done toward more targeted streaming and services like that has helped us grow up to the right audience.

Lanny Baker: The one other shift is moving away from linear and some of the older television or video advertising that we've done toward more targeted streaming and services like that has helped us go after the right audience. We're really happy with that. Performance on our own side in PLAs has been a big driver, and that's allowed us a lot of flexibility to move around the rest of the portfolio and find ways to be more efficient and find new opportunities to grow.

Speaker #2: And we're really happy with that. So performance on our own side in PLAs has been a big driver and that's allowed us a lot of flexibility to move around the rest of the portfolio and find ways to be more efficient and find new opportunities to grow.

Speaker #5: And then the second one is on app and app engagement.

Deb Wasser: The second one is on app and app engagement?

Speaker #7: Yeah. So yeah, I think the question was what's working in the app and where do we see potential going forward? And so look, we're really pleased with the growth acceleration that we saw in Q2 in the app up to 12 and a half percent year over year.

Kruti Patel Goyal: Yeah. I think the question was what's working in the app.

Deb Wasser: Yeah

Kruti Patel Goyal: Where do we see potential going forward? Look, we're really pleased with the growth acceleration that we saw in Q2 in the app, up to 12.5% year over year. We're now at about 47% of total GMS coming from the app. We think that's really healthy, and we think there's more room to grow. What's working really well, what I would say is the work that we're doing across the board is showing up with particular strength in the app, for lots of reasons that I've talked about, for our most engaged, most valuable users are already. It's where we have the ability to personalize with even more depth. What's working, I'd say first, better discovery and matching. We talked about richer buyer profiles.

Speaker #7: We're now at about 47% of total GMS coming from the app. We think that's really healthy, and we think there's more room to grow.

Speaker #7: What's working really well what I would say is the work that we're doing across the board is showing up with particular strength in the app.

Speaker #7: For lots of reasons that I've talked about for our most engaged, most valuable users are already. And it's where we have the ability to personalize with even more depth.

Speaker #7: So what's working, I'd say first, better discovery and matching. We talked about rich or broke buyer profiles. They're really improving the content that we can show you in home feeds, in push notifications that bring you back into the app.

Kruti Patel Goyal: They're really improving the content that we can show you in home feeds, in push notifications that bring you back into the app. The second thing I would say that's happening on the app is we're really improving the freshness of our feed, so the newness and the diversity of what we're showing in a way that's really improving engagement. The team made a really big shift in terms of reducing the prevalence of things that were recently viewed or engaged, and in place of showing you much fresher, newer listings. What we're seeing is that that's driving feed favoriting, listing views, new searches, and excitingly, it's broadening consideration. We're seeing buyers on the app starting more new shopping missions. All of that is really exciting.

Speaker #7: The second thing I would say that's happening on the app is we're really improving the freshness of our feed. So the newness and the diversity of what we're showing.

Speaker #7: In a way that's really improving engagement. The team made a really big shift in terms of reducing the prevalence of things that were recently viewed or engaged.

Speaker #7: And in place of showing you much fresher, newer listings. And what we're seeing is that that's driving feed favoriting, listing views, new searches. And excitingly, it's broadening consideration.

Speaker #7: We're seeing people we're seeing buyers on the app starting more new shopping missions. And so all of that is really exciting in general. We're seeing just much more engagement, more strong signs of engagement in the app with visits per mile improving, orders per visit improving, feed favoriting, like I said, new missions starts.

Kruti Patel Goyal: In general, we're seeing just much more engagement, more strong signs of engagement in the app with visits per mile improving, orders per visit improving, feed favoriting, like I said, new mission starts. All really strong indicators of how what we're doing is working in the app, and I think bodes well for the future in terms of continued opportunity there.

Speaker #7: So all really strong indicators of how what we're doing is working in the app. And I think bodes well for the future in terms of continued opportunity there.

Speaker #2: I would just add that the bulk of the GMS growth—the primary driver of app GMS growth—is existing app users purchasing more. And the second, behind that, is new-to-Etsy buyers coming into the app for their first-time purchases.

Lanny Baker: I would just add that the bulk of the GMS growth, the primary driver of app GMS growth, is existing app users purchasing more. The second behind that is new to Etsy buyers coming into the app for their first-time purchases. Those are really healthy, incremental reflections of the work that we're doing on both the marketing and the product experience.

Speaker #2: Those are really healthy incremental signs of reflections of the work that we're doing on both the marketing and the product experience.

Speaker #5: Great. Perfect. Thank you. Next question.

Deb Wasser: Great. Perfect. Thank you, guys. Next question.

Speaker #7: Your next question will come from Igala Runion with Wedbush.

Operator: Your next question will come from Ygal Arounian with Wedbush.

Speaker #6: Hey, good morning, guys. Can you hear me?

Ygal Arounian: Hey, good morning, guys. Can you hear me?

Speaker #2: Yep.

Lanny Baker: Yep.

Speaker #5: Yep.

Kruti Patel Goyal: Yep.

Speaker #6: Yeah. Okay, great. Good morning. Somehow says my line is still on mute, but okay. Great. Okay, I wanted to dig into the tech investments particularly around ML, that's something you ou guys have talked a lot about.

Ygal Arounian: Yeah. Okay, great.

Kruti Patel Goyal: Morning.

Lanny Baker: Morning

Ygal Arounian: Good morning. Somehow says my mind is still on mute.

Kruti Patel Goyal: You're good.

Lanny Baker: You're good.

Ygal Arounian: Okay, great. Okay, I wanted to dig into the tech investments, particularly around ML. That's something you guys have talked a lot about. What's kind of evolving here on that, and how does that tie into agentic commerce, maybe more specifically or if you want broadly on third parties too, but how you're building it to the Etsy platform directly. Thanks.

Speaker #6: So what's kind of evolving here on that? And how does that tie into agenda commerce? Maybe more specifically or if you want broadly on third parties too, but how you're building it to the Etsy platform directly.

Speaker #6: Thanks.

Speaker #7: Sure. So in terms of our investment in ML, the way you should think about that is we're continuing to invest more deeply in what's working and what's working is discovery, matching, and personalization.

Kruti Patel Goyal: Sure. In terms of our investment in ML, the way you should think about that is we're continuing to invest more deeply in what's working, and what's working is discovery, matching, and personalization. The investments that we're making as a result of reshaping our teams is really about strengthening our talent to do more of what's working. That's how I would think about the ML investment. In terms of AI, I think there are a couple of parts to this. The first thing I'd say is that we see the biggest opportunity for AI on Etsy itself. It's really about using AI to make Etsy much, much better at connecting the right buyers with the right sellers.

Speaker #7: And the investments that we're making as a result of reshaping our teams is really about strengthening our talent to do more of what's working.

Speaker #7: So that's how I would think about the ML investment. In terms of AI, I think there are a couple of parts to this. The first thing I'd say is that we see the biggest opportunity for AI on Etsy itself.

Speaker #7: It's really about using AI to make Etsy much, much better at connecting the right buyers with the right sellers. So we're applying AI across all of these areas that I just talked about, discovery, matching, and personalization, to really better understand what buyers are looking for, to better understand our buyers, to better understand our inventory so that we can surface the most relevant inventory from the full breadth of our marketplace.

Kruti Patel Goyal: We're applying AI across all of these areas that I just talked about, discovery, matching, and personalization, to really better understand what buyers are looking for, to better understand our buyers, to better understand our inventory, so that we can surface the most relevant inventory from the full breadth of our marketplace. That's where we think AI is really going to deliver the most value over time, because it makes Etsy feel more personal and help more of our sellers and more of our inventory get discovered. Then in terms of off of Etsy, and the opportunity there, it's still a really important priority for us to make sure that Etsy is showing up wherever shoppers discover. We're continuing to partner with these major AI platforms because we want to be in there learning and evolving our experience, as consumer behavior and adoption evolves.

Speaker #7: That's where we think AI is really going to deliver the most value over time because it makes Etsy feel more personal and help more of our sellers and more of our inventory get discovered.

Speaker #7: And then in terms of off of Etsy, and the opportunity there, we'd still have really important priority for us to make sure that Etsy is showing up wherever shoppers discover.

Speaker #7: So we're continuing to partner with these major AI platforms because we want to be in there learning and evolving our experience as consumer behavior and adoption evolves.

Speaker #7: So that's where we continue to focus there. I'll say that traffic from agentic experiences is still less than 1% of our overall traffic. We're still seeing the same things that we shared last time.

Kruti Patel Goyal: That's where we continue to focus there. I'll say that traffic from agentic experiences is still less than 1% of our overall traffic. We're still seeing the same things that we shared last time. There's higher intent, higher average order value traffic. That's what's happening there. The third thing I would say about AI is we're experimenting actively with AI native shopping experiences on Etsy itself. We've shared that we think that there's a really interesting opportunity to use these conversational interfaces to get more context more quickly to understand intent in any given shopping mission. The work that we've done on our gifting assistant is a good example of that. It gives buyers a more natural conversational way to express what they're looking for, and it's helping us learn actively in that space.

Speaker #7: There's higher intent, higher average order value traffic. So that's what's happening there. The third thing I would say about AI is we're experimenting actively with AI native shopping experiences on Etsy itself.

Speaker #7: We've shared that we think that there's a really interesting opportunity to use these conversational interfaces to get more context, more quickly, to understand intent in any given shopping mission.

Speaker #7: And so the work that we've done on our gifting assistant is a good example of that. It gives buyers a more natural conversational way to express what they're looking for.

Speaker #7: And it's helping us learn actively in that space. So I guess to sum it up, what I'd say is across AI, I think about it in three ways.

Kruti Patel Goyal: I guess to sum it up, what I'd say is across AI, I think about it in three ways. Making Etsy more personal, making Etsy more discoverable, and then learning how this next generation of shopping experience is going to evolve.

Speaker #7: Making Etsy more personal, making Etsy more discoverable, and then learning how this next generation of shopping experience is going to evolve.

Speaker #5: Great. Thanks, Griffy. Go to the next question.

Deb Wasser: Great. Thanks, Kruti. Go to the next question.

Speaker #7: Your next question will come from use of squalley with Truist.

Operator: Your next question will come from Youssef Squali with Truist.

Speaker #2: Excellent. Thank you so much, guys. Lani, maybe starting with you, the 50% flow through from incremental revenues to adjusted dividend Q2 is pretty impressive.

Youssef Squali: Excellent. Thank you so much, guys. Lanny, maybe starting with you, the 50% flow-through from incremental revenue to adjusted EBITDA in Q2 is pretty impressive. Maybe talk about the biggest drivers there and just the sustainability of that as we look into H2 and into 2027, particularly on the back of this latest RIF. Maybe not to beat a dead horse here, but can you maybe help us understand how you guys think about balancing increase in marketing spend, especially on the back of clearly what you're seeing as improving efficiency with the other decision that you've made of the $2 billion buyback, which obviously is a huge step up from what it was before. Are we hitting maybe the efficient frontier in marketing spend at this point until maybe we improve user experience that much better before we lean more aggressively into marketing?

Speaker #2: Maybe talk about the biggest drivers there, and just the sustainability of that as we look into the second half and into 2027, particularly on the back of this latest riff.

Speaker #2: And maybe not to be the dead horse here, but can you maybe help us understand how you guys think about balancing increase in marketing, spend, especially on the back of clearly what you're seeing as improving efficiency with the other decision that you've made of the $2 billion buyback, which obviously is a huge step up from what it was before.

Speaker #2: So are we hitting maybe the efficient frontier in marketing spend at this point until maybe we improve the user experience that much better before we lean more aggressively into marketing?

Speaker #2: Just helping us a little bit understand the push and take there. Yeah, sure. Good questions. Overall, let me start with the incremental profitability. I don't look at any one quarter, doesn't set the model forever.

Youssef Squali: Just help us a little bit understand the push and pull there.

Lanny Baker: Yeah, sure. Good questions overall. Let me start with the incremental profitability. Any one quarter doesn't set the model forever. We had a great quarter in flow-through this quarter. I think what sort of built across the course of this year is the internal momentum and execution and the health of the marketplace has turned out to be a little bit better and a little bit more sustainable than we anticipated. What that did was drive better GMS than we expected. When GMS grows unexpectedly, it's going to drive really good profitability characteristics for our business. I think you'll see the incremental margin sort of move back and forth across the ranges that the company has shown over time. We really like the incremental profitability characteristics of the business.

Speaker #2: And we had a great quarter of the inflow through this quarter. And I think what sort of built across the course of this year is the internal momentum and execution and the health of the marketplace has turned out to be a little bit better and a little bit more sustainable than we anticipated.

Speaker #2: And what that did was drive better GMS than we expected. And when GMS grows unexpectedly, it's going to drive really good profitability characteristics for our business.

Speaker #2: And so I think you'll see the incremental margin sort of move back and forth across the ranges that the company has shown over time.

Speaker #2: But we really like the incremental profitability characteristics of the business. Oh, and PS, we really like the margin level that we have right now to start with.

Lanny Baker: Oh, PS, we really like the margin level that we have right now to start with. From the reorganization, our intention is not to, as I said, structurally lift margins. It's to bring the team into more perfect alignment with the strategy in terms of the way it's organized, the way it's staffed, the skills we have on hand, so that we can drive the revenue growth that ultimately produces everything else we've already talked about. Hopefully those pieces will fit together for you as you look forward. I think, on your second question, which was about marketing and the share buyback, they're not mutually exclusive. They're really complementary.

Speaker #2: And from the reorganization, our intention is not to, as I said, to structurally lift margins. It's to bring the team into more perfect alignment with the strategy in terms of the way it's organized, the way it's staffed, the skills we have on hand, so that we can drive the revenue growth that ultimately produces everything else we've already talked about.

Speaker #2: So I mean, hopefully those pieces will fit together for you as you look forward. I think on your second question, which was about marketing and the share buyback, look, they're not mutually exclusive.

Speaker #2: They're really complementary. And it is, hey, we are becoming more efficient and more effective in our marketing. And that increases our estimation of the value of the franchise in the future.

Lanny Baker: It is, hey, we are becoming more efficient and more effective in our marketing, and that increases our estimation of the value of the franchise in the future, and that makes the buyback feel like a reasonable allocation of capital. We just received a large incremental amount of capital from the sale of Depop, and we don't see a place where we could spend that in the business right now, and we think the right thing to do is return that capital to shareholders by shrinking the equity base. As we've done, I think over the last 3 or 4 years, we've reduced the share count by almost 25 million shares. We feel really good about that investment we've made. I'm going to go back. You asked a question, Michael. There is not a frontier that we are hitting up against in marketing.

Speaker #2: And that makes the buyback feel like a reasonable allocation of capital and we just received a large incremental amount of capital from the sale of Depop.

Speaker #2: And we don't see a place where we could spend that in the business right now. And we think the right thing to do is return that capital to shareholders by shrinking the equity basis.

Speaker #2: We've done I think over the last couple over the last three or four years, we've reduced the share count by almost 25 million shares.

Speaker #2: So we feel really good about that investment we've made. And I'm going to go back. You asked the question, Michael's question. I don't there is not a frontier that we are hitting up against in marketing.

Speaker #2: What we are seeing more so is that our marketing dollars are going further. And you know we are a company that doesn't set a marketing budget.

Lanny Baker: What we are seeing more so is that our marketing dollars are going further. You know we are a company that doesn't set a marketing budget. It sets a return target. If our marketing dollars are going further, that says the return is better, and that is, over time, going to lead us to continue to spend more on marketing to drive the flywheel. Interestingly, and importantly, this quarter, our organic GMS that was not driven by marketing grew. That's nice to have the fundamental underlying growth from SEO and from the app and from their own channels, and then be able to use marketing really efficiently with a good return on top of that to further extend our reach and our frequency is what we're all about.

Speaker #2: It sets a return target. And if our marketing dollars are going further, that says the return is better. And that is over time going to lead us to continue to spend more on marketing to drive the flywheel.

Speaker #2: Interestingly, or importantly, this quarter, our organic GMS that was not driven by marketing grew. So we've got that's nice to have the fundamental underlying growth from SEO and from the app and from the owned channels and then be able to use marketing really efficiently with a good return on top of that to further extend our reach and our frequency.

Speaker #2: Is what we're all about.

Speaker #3: The other thing that I would add on the marketing front is we see a lot of great opportunities to continue to lean into marketing.

Kruti Patel Goyal: The only thing that I would add on the marketing front is we see a lot of great opportunities to continue to lean into marketing, and I think we've really shown that this quarter. As we've gained efficiency in certain areas, we've leaned into others to great effect, right? As we've seen efficiency in paid search, we've leaned into paid social. We've seen the impact of that in terms of our engagement with younger buyers on TikTok and YouTube. We've leaned into marketing partnerships like our Olivia Rodrigo partnership. We think there's a lot of great opportunities to continue to extend our reach and our relevance through marketing, even as we make our more mature channels more efficient.

Speaker #3: And I think we've really shown that this quarter. As we've gained efficiency in certain areas, we've leaned into others to great effect, right? As we've seen efficiency in paid search, we've leaned into paid social.

Speaker #3: We've seen the impact of that in terms of our engagement with younger buyers on TikTok and YouTube. We've leaned into marketing partnerships like our Olivia Rodrigo partnership.

Speaker #3: We think there's a lot of great opportunities to continue to extend our reach and our relevance through marketing, even as we make our more mature channels more efficient.

Speaker #5: Great. Operator, I know we're almost at time, but I want to squeeze in one more. Can we call the next one?

Deb Wasser: Great. Operator, I know we're almost at time, but I want to squeeze in one more. Can we pull the next one?

Speaker #7: Your final question will come from Oliver Lester with Arete Research.

Operator: Your final question will come from Oliver Lester with Arete Research.

Speaker #8: Hi, can you hear me?

Oliver Lester: Hi, can you hear me?

Speaker #5: Yes, we're good, Oliver. Go ahead.

Deb Wasser: Yes, we're good, Oliver. Go ahead.

Speaker #8: Hi, thanks Steve. My questions. Yeah, two for me. One is I wanted to know whether you'd expect to see any impact from the recent EU de minimis changes.

Oliver Lester: Hi, thanks for taking my questions. Yeah, two from me. One is, I wanted to know whether you expect to see any impact from the recent EU de minimis changes. My second question is just on Etsy Insider. I know that got a brief mention in the shareholder letter. Is there any kind of update that you can give us on the progress you're making there?

Speaker #8: And my second question is just on ETSY Insider. I know that got a brief mention in the shareholder letter. Is there any kind of update that you could give us on the progress you're making now?

Speaker #5: Lots of time, Lani. Why don't you do.

Deb Wasser: Just the time, Leni, on de minimis.

Speaker #2: On de minimus, I don't think we'll see a big impact from it. And I will tell you that ETSY is at the forefront of helping sellers deal with all of those kind of changes.

Lanny Baker: On de minimis, I don't think we'll see a big impact from it. I will tell you that Etsy is at the forefront of helping sellers deal with all of those kinds of changes. We have a great track record over the last year and really strong partners that we work with to help sellers navigate that changed playing field.

Speaker #2: We have a great track record over the last year and really strong partners that we work with to help sellers navigate that change playing field.

Speaker #3: On Insider, we don't have a specific update, what I would say is what I've shared in the past, which is that we're thinking about loyalty and driving loyalty as much broader than one program or one initiative.

Kruti Patel Goyal: On Insider, we don't have a specific update. What I would say is what I've shared in the past, which is that we're thinking about loyalty and driving loyalty as much broader than one program or one initiative. We're starting to test more mechanics to drive that loyalty, including pre-loyalty mechanics. More broadly, the biggest thing that's going to drive loyalty is a better end-to-end user experience in the product. That's where we're focused.

Speaker #3: We're starting to test more mechanics to drive that loyalty. Including free loyalty mechanics, but more broadly, the biggest thing that's going to drive loyalty is a better end-to-end user experience in the product.

Speaker #3: So that's where we're focused.

Deb Wasser: Perfect. Thank you, guys. Operator, I think that's it for us today. Thank you so much, everyone. We'll talk to you soon.

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