Q2 2026 Klarna Group PLC Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Hello, everyone, and welcome to Klarna's second quarter 2026 earnings call. During this call, we will discuss our business outlook and make forward-looking statements. These statements are based on our current expectations and assumptions as of today.
Operator: Hello everyone, and welcome to Klarna's Q2 2026 earnings call. During this call, we will discuss our business outlook and make forward-looking statements. These statements are based on our current expectations and assumptions as of today. Actual results may differ materially due to various risks and uncertainties, including those described in our most recent filings with the SEC. During this call, we will present both IFRS and non-IFRS financial measures. A reconciliation of non-IFRS to IFRS measures is included in today's earnings press release, which is distributed and available to the public through our investor relations website, as well as filed with the SEC. Please note, unless otherwise stated, all comparisons in this call will be against our results for the comparable period in 2025. During the question and answer portion of today's call, please limit yourself to one question.
Operator: Hello everyone, and welcome to Klarna's Q2 2026 earnings call. During this call, we will discuss our business outlook and make forward-looking statements. These statements are based on our current expectations and assumptions as of today. Actual results may differ materially due to various risks and uncertainties, including those described in our most recent filings with the SEC. During this call, we will present both IFRS and non-IFRS financial measures. A reconciliation of non-IFRS to IFRS measures is included in today's earnings press release, which is distributed and available to the public through our investor relations website, as well as filed with the SEC. Please note, unless otherwise stated, all comparisons in this call will be against our results for the comparable period in 2025. During the question and answer portion of today's call, please limit yourself to one question.
Speaker #1: Actual results may differ materially due to various risks and uncertainties, including those described in our most recent filings with the SEC. During this call, we will present both IFRS and non-IFRS financial measures.
Speaker #1: A reconciliation of non-IFRS to IFRS measures is included in today's earnings press release, which is distributed and available to the public through our investor relations website, as well as filed with the SEC.
Speaker #1: Please note, unless otherwise stated, all comparisons in this call will be against our results for the comparable period in 2025. During the question-and-answer portion of today’s call, please limit yourself to one question.
Speaker #1: To join the queue, participants should dial #Q5 on their telephone keypad. Before we move to Q&A, we will begin with a brief presentation. Sebastian, please go ahead.
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Operator: To join the queue, participants should dial pound key five on their telephone keypad. Before we move to Q&A, we will begin with a brief presentation. Sebastian, please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining. This was a good quarter. We delivered above the high end of our guidance on every line, for the second consecutive quarter.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining. This was a good quarter. We delivered above the high end of our guidance on every line for the second consecutive quarter. Revenue grew faster than volume and transaction margin dollars, which is our most important metric, grew faster than both. Volume was up 18%, revenue up 27%, transaction margin dollars up 42%. Adjusted operating income reached $91 million, up $62 million year-on-year, and net income was positive at $9 million. Our operating cost grew just 16%. We are investing in our business whilst delivering strong operating leverage, which is what we have been building toward. As I said, we measure our progress in transaction margin dollars. That number shapes how we build products, how we price, and how we underwrite.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining. This was a good quarter. We delivered above the high end of our guidance on every line for the second consecutive quarter. Revenue grew faster than volume and transaction margin dollars, which is our most important metric, grew faster than both. Volume was up 18%, revenue up 27%, transaction margin dollars up 42%. Adjusted operating income reached $91 million, up $62 million year-on-year, and net income was positive at $9 million. Our operating cost grew just 16%. We are investing in our business whilst delivering strong operating leverage, which is what we have been building toward. As I said, we measure our progress in transaction margin dollars. That number shapes how we build products, how we price, and how we underwrite.
Speaker #2: Revenue grew faster than volume, and transaction margin dollars—which is our most important metric—grew faster than both. Volume was up 18%, revenue up 27%, and transaction margin dollars up 42%.
Speaker #2: Adjusted operating income reached $91 million, up $62 million year on year. Net income was positive at $9 million. Our operating costs grew just 16%.
Speaker #2: We are investing in our business while delivering strong operating leverage, which is what we have been building toward. As I said, we measure our progress in transaction margin dollars.
Speaker #2: That number shapes how we build products, how we price, and how we underwrite. And because operating costs grew far slower, growth in transaction margin dollars is what, over time, turns into earnings per share.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Because operating cost grew far slower, growth in transaction margin dollars is what, over time, turns into EPS. On our last call, we told you what to expect for the year. Transaction margin dollars compounding at roughly 30% ahead of revenue. That is the shape we described in May and is the shape the year is taking. I'd like to review our three business areas, which cover the entire consumer wallet. Everyday spend with the payment option of Pay in full for purchases under $75 with high frequency. In this business area, we monetize through payment fees, subscriptions, and deposit interest. Transactions here are no balance sheet risk. Pay in full contributed $3.6 billion of volume this quarter, and subscriptions reached 2 million subscribers. Lifestyle Spend or Pay Later is the payment option for purchases between $75 and $500 a purchase.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Because operating cost grew far slower, growth in transaction margin dollars is what, over time, turns into EPS. On our last call, we told you what to expect for the year. Transaction margin dollars compounding at roughly 30% ahead of revenue. That is the shape we described in May and is the shape the year is taking. I'd like to review our three business areas, which cover the entire consumer wallet. Everyday spend with the payment option of Pay in full for purchases under $75 with high frequency. In this business area, we monetize through payment fees, subscriptions, and deposit interest. Transactions here are no balance sheet risk. Pay in full contributed $3.6 billion of volume this quarter, and subscriptions reached 2 million subscribers. Lifestyle Spend or Pay Later is the payment option for purchases between $75 and $500 a purchase.
Speaker #2: On our last call, we told you what to expect for the year: transaction margin dollars compounding at roughly 30%, ahead of revenue. That is the shape we described in May, and it's the shape the year is taking.
Speaker #2: I'd like to review our three business areas, which cover the entire consumer wallet. Everyday spend, with the payment option of paying in full, for purchases under $75, with high frequency.
Speaker #2: In this business area, we monetize through payment fees, subscriptions, and deposit interest. Transactions here carry no balance sheet risk. Paying full contributed $3.6 billion of volume this quarter, and subscriptions reached 2 million subscribers.
Speaker #2: Lifestyle Spend, or Pay Later, is the payment option for purchases between $75 and $500 per purchase. This is our marquee zero-interest short-term fixed installments product.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: This is our marquee zero interest, short-term fixed installments product. It is the equivalent of and has the economics of charge cards over 30 to 90 days. Spend centric rather than lend centric, and the reason why our book turn is 10 times a year. Pay Later grew 13% this quarter. Big Ticket Spend or Fair Financing, which is designed for purchases between $500 to $10,000. These are fixed-term installments and it's our fastest-growing product, up 82% year over year to $4.7 billion, offered by 256,000 merchants now, up from 151,000 when we first spoke to you in November. In the US, it more than doubled. We're happy with the balance between these three, making sure we have an attractive offer for every purchase our customers make and with the effect it has on transaction margin dollars. Worth highlighting, Fair Financing is now 13% of our total volume.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: This is our marquee zero interest, short-term fixed installments product. It is the equivalent of and has the economics of charge cards over 30 to 90 days. Spend centric rather than lend centric, and the reason why our book turn is 10 times a year. Pay Later grew 13% this quarter. Big Ticket Spend or Fair Financing, which is designed for purchases between $500 to $10,000. These are fixed-term installments and it's our fastest-growing product, up 82% year over year to $4.7 billion, offered by 256,000 merchants now, up from 151,000 when we first spoke to you in November. In the US, it more than doubled. We're happy with the balance between these three, making sure we have an attractive offer for every purchase our customers make and with the effect it has on transaction margin dollars. Worth highlighting, Fair Financing is now 13% of our total volume.
Speaker #2: It is the equivalent of, and has the economics of, charge cards over 30 to 90 days. It's spend-centric rather than lend-centric, and that's the reason why our book turn is 10 times a year.
Speaker #2: Pay later grew 13% this quarter. And, big ticket spend, or fair financing, which is designed for purchases between 500 to 10,000 dollars. These are fixed-term installments, and it's our fastest-growing product, up 82% year over year, to 4.7 billion dollars, offered by 256,000 merchants now, up from 151,000 when we first spoke to you in November.
Speaker #2: In the U.S., it more than doubled. We're happy with the balance between these three, making sure we have an attractive offer for every purchase our customers make, and with the effect it has on transaction margin dollars.
Speaker #2: Worth highlighting: Fair financing is now 13% of our total volume. In the early 2010s, it was roughly a fifth of Klarna's volume, and in Sweden, our most mature market, it held 16–20% for a decade.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: In the early 2010s, it was roughly a fifth of Klarna's volume, and in Sweden, our most mature market, it held 16% to 20% for a decade. So Fair Financing today, a share of volume is still lower than historical averages. The average Fair Financing balance is $400 on a fixed term with a known payoff date against a $6,700 average American credit card balance, which again reflects the fact that our customers borrow responsibly. We believe every market we operate in follows the same path and has the potential for strong transaction margins. Volume first, then scale, then the margin follows. We have run that sequence enough time to know what it looks like. In total, transaction margin reached 43% of revenue, up 4.5 points in 12 months. The US, our fastest-growing large region this quarter, went from 14% to 23% in a year.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: In the early 2010s, it was roughly a fifth of Klarna's volume, and in Sweden, our most mature market, it held 16% to 20% for a decade. So Fair Financing today, a share of volume is still lower than historical averages. The average Fair Financing balance is $400 on a fixed term with a known payoff date against a $6,700 average American credit card balance, which again reflects the fact that our customers borrow responsibly. We believe every market we operate in follows the same path and has the potential for strong transaction margins. Volume first, then scale, then the margin follows. We have run that sequence enough time to know what it looks like. In total, transaction margin reached 43% of revenue, up 4.5 points in 12 months. The US, our fastest-growing large region this quarter, went from 14% to 23% in a year.
Speaker #2: So, fair financing today’s share of volume is still lower than historical averages. The average fair financing balance is $400 on a fixed term with a known payoff date, compared to a $6,700 average American credit card balance—again, reflecting the fact that our customers borrow responsibly.
Speaker #2: We believe every market we operate in follows the same path and has the potential for strong transaction margins: volume first, then scale, then the margin follows.
Speaker #2: We have run that sequence enough times to know what it looks like. In total, transaction margin reached 43% of revenue, up 4.5 points in 12 months.
Speaker #2: The U.S., our fastest-growing large region this quarter, went from 14% to 23% in a year. Global ex-U.S. sits at 54%, up 4 points.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Global ex-US sits at 54%, up four points, and the markets where we have operated longest run at roughly 60%. This quarter, the margin expanded while volume kept growing in the US and everywhere else, both at once. We measure our progress in transaction margin dollars, and we continue to convert more of our volumes into them. Five business updates to highlight this quarter. Klarna membership reached 2 million paying subscribers eight times a year ago, and subscription revenue grew over 600%. Recurring revenue like this is high margin and worth noting. Almost no GMV with it. This decouples our growth over time from GMV. It grows transaction margin dollars directly, part of how transaction margin dollars grow faster than volume. The Klarna Card reached 6.5 million active users across 16 countries, up from 1.3 million a year ago.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Global ex-US sits at 54%, up four points, and the markets where we have operated longest run at roughly 60%. This quarter, the margin expanded while volume kept growing in the US and everywhere else, both at once. We measure our progress in transaction margin dollars, and we continue to convert more of our volumes into them. Five business updates to highlight this quarter. Klarna membership reached 2 million paying subscribers eight times a year ago, and subscription revenue grew over 600%. Recurring revenue like this is high margin and worth noting. Almost no GMV with it. This decouples our growth over time from GMV. It grows transaction margin dollars directly, part of how transaction margin dollars grow faster than volume. The Klarna Card reached 6.5 million active users across 16 countries, up from 1.3 million a year ago.
Speaker #2: And the markets where we have operated longest run at roughly 60%. This quarter, the margin expanded while volume kept growing in the U.S. and everywhere else, both at once.
Speaker #2: We measure our progress in transaction margin dollars, and we continue to convert more of our volumes into them. I have five business updates to highlight this quarter.
Speaker #2: Klarna membership reached 2 million paying subscribers—8 times what it was a year ago—and subscription revenue grew over 600%. Recurring revenue like this is high-margin and worth noting: there's almost no GMV associated with it.
Speaker #2: This decouples our growth over time from GMV. It grows transaction margin dollars directly, which is part of how transaction margin dollars grow faster than volume. The Klarna Card reached 6.5 million active users across 16 countries, up from 1.3 million a year ago.
Speaker #2: On our first earnings call in November, that number was 3.2 million. It has more than doubled in nine months. Last week, we launched new membership plans built on what consumers actually want: cashback and benefits.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: On our first earnings call in November, that number was 3.2 million. It has more than doubled in nine months. Last week, we launched new membership plans built on what consumers actually want: cashback and benefits. In May, we told you J.P. Morgan Payments would launch later this year. It went live on 6 August ahead of peak season. J.P. Morgan Payments is the largest merchant acquirer in the United States, processing $2.6 trillion of payments a year, and every merchant on their platform, from boutiques to big box, can now offer the full Klarna suite, Pay in full, Pay Later, and Fixed Term installments through their existing setup with no new integration. Recently announced that Klarna is the partner for Apple Upgrade, a new device leasing program available from Apple. This is a natural extension of our big ticket strategy.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: On our first earnings call in November, that number was 3.2 million. It has more than doubled in nine months. Last week, we launched new membership plans built on what consumers actually want: cashback and benefits. In May, we told you J.P. Morgan Payments would launch later this year. It went live on 6 August ahead of peak season. J.P. Morgan Payments is the largest merchant acquirer in the United States, processing $2.6 trillion of payments a year, and every merchant on their platform, from boutiques to big box, can now offer the full Klarna suite, Pay in full, Pay Later, and Fixed Term installments through their existing setup with no new integration. Recently announced that Klarna is the partner for Apple Upgrade, a new device leasing program available from Apple. This is a natural extension of our big ticket strategy.
Speaker #2: In May, we told you JPMorgan Payments would launch later this year. It went live on August 6th, ahead of peak season. JPMorgan Payments is the largest merchant acquirer in the United States, processing $2.6 trillion of payments a year, and every merchant on their platform—from boutiques to big box—can now offer the full Klarna suite: Pay in Full, Pay Later, and fixed-term installments, through their existing setup with no new integration.
Speaker #2: Recently, Klarna was announced as the partner for Apple Upgrade, a new device leasing program available from Apple. This is a natural extension of our big-ticket strategy: consumers source Apple devices, then pay and manage them with the Klarna app, creating a direct relationship with new U.S. customers.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Consumers apply at Apple and then pay and manage with the Klarna app, creating a direct relationship with new US consumers that supports Klarna's ability to grow engagement, RPAC, and profitability. Consumer credit keeps performing better. Delinquencies improved again this quarter, and provisions have declined the share of volume every quarter since our first report as a public company. Before I hand over, I would like to mention two things. First, we have adjusted our annual volume outlook to reflect a softer than expected German consumer and changes in FX. Niclas will explain both. Second, in early 2027, we will make two leadership transitions. Niclas Neglén, our CFO, after six years at Klarna and an extraordinary period of growth and transformation. He told me with plenty of runway, and I respect that. This is an early heads up, not a goodbye. Nothing changes tomorrow.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Consumers apply at Apple and then pay and manage with the Klarna app, creating a direct relationship with new US consumers that supports Klarna's ability to grow engagement, RPAC, and profitability. Consumer credit keeps performing better. Delinquencies improved again this quarter, and provisions have declined the share of volume every quarter since our first report as a public company. Before I hand over, I would like to mention two things. First, we have adjusted our annual volume outlook to reflect a softer than expected German consumer and changes in FX. Niclas will explain both. Second, in early 2027, we will make two leadership transitions. Niclas Neglén, our CFO, after six years at Klarna and an extraordinary period of growth and transformation. He told me with plenty of runway, and I respect that. This is an early heads up, not a goodbye. Nothing changes tomorrow.
Speaker #2: Consumers—that supports Klarna's ability to grow engagement, RPAC, and profitability. And consumer credit keeps performing better. Delinquencies improved again this quarter, and provisions have declined as a share of volume every quarter since our first report as a public company.
Speaker #2: Before I hand over, I'd like to mention two things. First, we have adjusted our annual volume outlook to reflect a softer-than-expected German consumer and changes in FX.
Speaker #2: Niclas will explain both. Second, in early 2027, we will make two leadership transitions. Niclas Neglen, our CFO, after six years at Klarna and an extraordinary period of growth and transformation, he told me with plenty of runway, and I respect that.
Speaker #2: This is an early heads-up, not a goodbye. Nothing changes tomorrow. Niclas remains CFO and will continue to lead the finance organization and investor engagement, supporting a transition into next year, including in his capacity as board member.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Niclas remains CFO and will continue to lead the finance organization and investor engagement, supporting a transition into next year, including in his capacity as board member. Search for a New York-based CFO is underway. David Sandström, our CMO for nine years, will also hand over during next year in the same planned way. In those nine years, David built one of the most recognized brands in global finance, and he hands it over the same way Niclas hands over the numbers, deliberately and from strength. Both Niclas and David have been great contributors, and we are grateful for all the work. Nothing about them changes what we are building or how we run the company. The best evidence is the quarter we just delivered and the transaction margin dollar outlook we are raising today. Niclas will take you through it.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Niclas remains CFO and will continue to lead the finance organization and investor engagement, supporting a transition into next year, including in his capacity as board member. Search for a New York-based CFO is underway. David Sandström, our CMO for nine years, will also hand over during next year in the same planned way. In those nine years, David built one of the most recognized brands in global finance, and he hands it over the same way Niclas hands over the numbers, deliberately and from strength. Both Niclas and David have been great contributors, and we are grateful for all the work. Nothing about them changes what we are building or how we run the company. The best evidence is the quarter we just delivered and the transaction margin dollar outlook we are raising today. Niclas will take you through it.
Speaker #2: A search for a New York-based CFO is underway. David Sandström, our CMO for nine years, will also hand over during next year in the same planned way.
Speaker #2: In those nine years, David built one of the most recognized brands in global finance, and he hands it over the same way Niclas hands over the numbers: deliberately and from strength.
Speaker #2: Both Niclas and David have been great contributors, and we are grateful for all their work. Nothing about them changes what we're building or how we run the company.
Speaker #2: The best evidence is the quarter we just delivered and the transaction margin dollar outlook we are raising today. Niclas will take you through it.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Sebastian. It's been an extraordinary six years, and I'm deeply proud of what we built together. I'm very pleased we've been able to plan the transition in a way that gives Klarna plenty of continuity.
Niclas Neglén: Thanks, Sebastian. It has been an extraordinary six years, and I am deeply proud of what we built together. I am very pleased we have been able to plan the transition in a way that gives Klarna plenty of continuity. Now to the numbers. Let me take you through the financial highlights of the quarter, and then spend some time on our outlook. Starting with the P&L summary for the Q2. The business executed strongly, and we delivered above our guidance. Total revenue was $1,042,000,000, up 27% and ahead of volume growth of 18%, as our mix continued to shift towards higher yielding products. Transaction costs were $596 million, up 17%, well below revenue growth, reflecting improved underwriting and scaling of our offloading programs. Transaction margin dollars were $446 million, up 42%, well above the $375 million to $395 million we guided in May.
Niclas Neglén: Thanks, Sebastian. It has been an extraordinary six years, and I am deeply proud of what we built together. I am very pleased we have been able to plan the transition in a way that gives Klarna plenty of continuity. Now to the numbers. Let me take you through the financial highlights of the quarter, and then spend some time on our outlook. Starting with the P&L summary for the Q2. The business executed strongly, and we delivered above our guidance. Total revenue was $1,042,000,000, up 27% and ahead of volume growth of 18%, as our mix continued to shift towards higher yielding products. Transaction costs were $596 million, up 17%, well below revenue growth, reflecting improved underwriting and scaling of our offloading programs. Transaction margin dollars were $446 million, up 42%, well above the $375 million to $395 million we guided in May.
Speaker #1: Now, to the numbers. Let me take you through the financial highlights of the quarter, and then spend some time on our outlook. Starting with the P&L summary for the second quarter.
Speaker #1: The business executed strongly, and we delivered above our guidance. Total revenue was 1 billion and 42 million dollars, up 27% and ahead of volume growth of 18%, as our mix continued to shift towards higher yielding products.
Speaker #1: Transaction costs were $596 million, up 17%, well below revenue growth, reflecting improved underwriting and scaling of our offloading programs. Transaction margin dollars were $446 million, up 42%, well above the $375 to $395 million we guided in May.
Speaker #1: Our transaction margin dollars were 42.8% of revenue, up approximately 450 basis points from a year ago, with both the U.S. and our global ex-businesses expanding.
Niclas Neglén: Our transaction margin dollars was 42.8% of revenue, up approximately 450 basis points from a year ago, with both the US and our global ex business expanding. Non-transaction related operating expenses were $490 million, up 16%, as we invested ahead of peak season and ramped marketing around the World Cup in the US. Our operating expenses growth is well below our revenue and TMD growth, and we expect to continue that, so TMD conversion is high. That gap of 42% TMD growth against 16% operating expense growth is operating leverage Sebastian described. Three years ago, our transaction margin did not cover our adjusted operating cost. Today, roughly $0.56 of every additional transaction margin dollar reaches the operating line. That takes us to operating income of $27 million, an improvement of $73 million, and an adjusted operating income of $91 million, up $62 million.
Niclas Neglén: Our transaction margin dollars was 42.8% of revenue, up approximately 450 basis points from a year ago, with both the US and our global ex business expanding. Non-transaction related operating expenses were $490 million, up 16%, as we invested ahead of peak season and ramped marketing around the World Cup in the US. Our operating expenses growth is well below our revenue and TMD growth, and we expect to continue that, so TMD conversion is high. That gap of 42% TMD growth against 16% operating expense growth is operating leverage Sebastian described. Three years ago, our transaction margin did not cover our adjusted operating cost. Today, roughly $0.56 of every additional transaction margin dollar reaches the operating line. That takes us to operating income of $27 million, an improvement of $73 million, and an adjusted operating income of $91 million, up $62 million.
Speaker #1: Non-transaction-related operating expenses were $490 million, up 16%, as we invested ahead of peak season and ramped up marketing around the World Cup in the U.S.
Speaker #1: Our operating expenses growth is well below our revenue and team degrowth, and we expect to continue that, so team deconversion is high. That gap of 42% team degrowth against 16% operating expense growth is the operating leverage Sebastian described.
Speaker #1: Three years ago, our transaction margin did not cover our adjusted operating cost. Today, roughly $0.56 of every additional transaction margin dollar reaches the operating line.
Speaker #1: That takes us to operating income of $27 million, an improvement of $73 million, and an adjusted operating income of $91 million, up $62 million.
Speaker #1: Net income was $9 million, with a basic diluted EPS of $0.01, compared to a negative $0.14 a year ago. We are delivering real operating leverage, and with volume, revenue, transaction margin, and profit each growing faster than the last.
Niclas Neglén: Net income was SEK 9 million, with the basic diluted EPS of SEK 0.01 against a -SEK 0.14 a year ago. We are delivering real operating leverage, with volume, revenue, transaction, margin, and profit each growing faster than the last. Total GMV in Q2 was $36.6 billion, up 18% year over year. This was 15% on a like-for-like basis, reflecting the lapping of the Q2 2025 Fair Financing launch and less of an FX tailwind than Q1. GMV growth was broad, and we delivered growth in every geography. The US delivered GMV of $7.9 billion, up 27% year on year, and was our fastest growing large region. Global ex-US GMV was $28.8 billion, up 15%, or 12% on a like-for-like basis. During the quarter, some markets, most notably Germany, grew at a more measured pace, whilst our performance across our more mature Nordic markets accelerated.
Niclas Neglén: Net income was SEK 9 million, with the basic diluted EPS of SEK 0.01 against a -SEK 0.14 a year ago. We are delivering real operating leverage, with volume, revenue, transaction, margin, and profit each growing faster than the last. Total GMV in Q2 was $36.6 billion, up 18% year over year. This was 15% on a like-for-like basis, reflecting the lapping of the Q2 2025 Fair Financing launch and less of an FX tailwind than Q1. GMV growth was broad, and we delivered growth in every geography. The US delivered GMV of $7.9 billion, up 27% year on year, and was our fastest growing large region. Global ex-US GMV was $28.8 billion, up 15%, or 12% on a like-for-like basis. During the quarter, some markets, most notably Germany, grew at a more measured pace, whilst our performance across our more mature Nordic markets accelerated.
Speaker #2: Total GMV in the second quarter was $36.6 billion, up 18% year over year. This was 15% on a like-for-like basis, reflecting the lapping of the Q2 '25 Fair Financing launch and less of an FX tailwind than the first quarter.
Speaker #2: GMV growth was broad, and we delivered growth in every geography. The U.S. delivered GMV of $7.9 billion, up 27% year on year, and was our fastest-growing large region.
Speaker #2: Global ex-U.S. GMV was $28.8 billion, up 15%, or 12% on a like-for-like basis. During the quarter, some markets, most notably Germany, grew at a more measured pace.
Speaker #2: Whilst our performance across our more mature Nordic markets accelerated, I will speak in more detail to the volume outlook in a few pages. U.S.
Niclas Neglén: I will speak in more detail to the volume outlook in a few pages. US share of GMV rose 2 percentage points year over year to 22%, while US transaction margin grew 9 percentage points to 23% of revenue, exactly the trajectory we want and the structural reason why TMD growth outpaces revenue growth. By product, our Fair Financing, our point of sale installment product, grew 82% year over year to $4.7 billion in GMV, with continued merchant and market rollout, and is now offered by 256,000 merchants. Higher engagement products like Affirm Finance and the Klarna Card generate stronger transaction margin per dollar of GMV as they mature, and as you have seen, are a key reason for our strong profit growth in the quarter. Pay Later, our charge card equivalent, grew 13%, and Pay in full, our everyday spending product, contributed $3.6 billion. Now to revenue in more detail.
Niclas Neglén: I will speak in more detail to the volume outlook in a few pages. US share of GMV rose 2 percentage points year over year to 22%, while US transaction margin grew 9 percentage points to 23% of revenue, exactly the trajectory we want and the structural reason why TMD growth outpaces revenue growth. By product, our Fair Financing, our point of sale installment product, grew 82% year over year to $4.7 billion in GMV, with continued merchant and market rollout, and is now offered by 256,000 merchants. Higher engagement products like Affirm Finance and the Klarna Card generate stronger transaction margin per dollar of GMV as they mature, and as you have seen, are a key reason for our strong profit growth in the quarter. Pay Later, our charge card equivalent, grew 13%, and Pay in full, our everyday spending product, contributed $3.6 billion. Now to revenue in more detail.
Speaker #2: Share of GMV rose 2% at this point year over year, to 22%, while U.S. transaction margin grew 9 percentage points to 23% of revenue—exactly the trajectory we want and a structural reason why team degrowth outpaces revenue growth.
Speaker #1: By-products are fair financing our point-of-sale installment product grew 82% year over year to 4.7 billion dollars in GMV, with continued merchant and market rollout, and is now offered by 256,000 merchants.
Speaker #1: Higher-engagement products like Fair Finance and the card generate stronger transaction margin per dollar of GMV as they mature and, as you have seen, are a key reason for our strong profit growth in the quarter.
Speaker #1: Pay later, our charged card equivalent grew 13%, and paid in full, our everyday spending product contributed $3.6 billion. Now, to revenue in more detail.
Speaker #1: Transaction and service revenue was $707 million, up 17%, broadly tracking volume with continued strong growth in membership fees, with subscription revenue up over 600%.
Niclas Neglén: Transaction service revenue was $707 million, up 17%, broadly tracking volume with continued strong growth in membership fees, with subscription revenue up over 600%. Interest income was $266 million, up 21%, driven by new originations and continued recognition from loans originated in prior periods and the lapping of the launch of Affirm Finance in Q2 of last year. Gain on sale was $69 million, driven by both the US forward flows and the German back book sales. US revenue grew 37% to $376 million, ahead of US volume growth of 27%. The higher take rate in the US reflects the contribution of interest income and gain on sale of originations from previous quarters where Fair Financing is most established.
Niclas Neglén: Transaction service revenue was $707 million, up 17%, broadly tracking volume with continued strong growth in membership fees, with subscription revenue up over 600%. Interest income was $266 million, up 21%, driven by new originations and continued recognition from loans originated in prior periods and the lapping of the launch of Affirm Finance in Q2 of last year. Gain on sale was $69 million, driven by both the US forward flows and the German back book sales. US revenue grew 37% to $376 million, ahead of US volume growth of 27%. The higher take rate in the US reflects the contribution of interest income and gain on sale of originations from previous quarters where Fair Financing is most established.
Speaker #1: Interest income was $266 million, up 21%, driven by new originations and continued recognition from loans originated in prior periods, as well as the lapping of the launch of Fair Finance in the second quarter of last year.
Speaker #1: Gain on sale was $69 million, driven by both the U.S. forward flows and the German backbook sales.
Speaker #2: U.S. revenue grew 37% to $376 million, ahead of U.S. volume growth of 27%. The higher take rate in the U.S. reflects the contribution of interest income and gain on sale of originations from previous quarters, where fair financing is most established.
Speaker #2: Global ex-U.S. revenue grew 22% to $666 million, or 18% on a like-for-like basis, ahead of volume growth of 15%, with fair financing, card, and membership fees driving this faster growth.
Niclas Neglén: Global ex-US revenue grew 22% to $666 million, or 18% on a like-for-like basis, ahead of volume growth of 15%, with Fair Financing the Klarna Card and membership fees driving this faster growth. Transaction costs were $596 million in Q2, up 17%. Within that, processing and servicing was $233 million, or 0.64% of GMV, down from 0.79% in Q1, which carried the servicing of a higher Q4 originations. Provisions for credit losses were $192 million, growing slower than volume, so provisions declined as a share of GMV to 0.52%. That rate reflects continued underwriting improvements, growing forward flow arrangements, and the natural maturation of our Fair Financing book. The dollar growth follows the size of the book. Funding cost was $171 million, broadly flat sequentially at 0.47% of GMV.
Niclas Neglén: Global ex-US revenue grew 22% to $666 million, or 18% on a like-for-like basis, ahead of volume growth of 15%, with Fair Financing the Klarna Card and membership fees driving this faster growth. Transaction costs were $596 million in Q2, up 17%. Within that, processing and servicing was $233 million, or 0.64% of GMV, down from 0.79% in Q1, which carried the servicing of a higher Q4 originations. Provisions for credit losses were $192 million, growing slower than volume, so provisions declined as a share of GMV to 0.52%. That rate reflects continued underwriting improvements, growing forward flow arrangements, and the natural maturation of our Fair Financing book. The dollar growth follows the size of the book. Funding cost was $171 million, broadly flat sequentially at 0.47% of GMV.
Speaker #1: Transaction costs were $596 million in the second quarter, up 17%. Within that, processing and servicing was $233 million, or 0.64% of GMV, down from 0.79% in the first quarter, which carried the servicing of higher fourth quarter originations.
Speaker #1: Provisions for credit losses were $192 million, growing slower than volume, so provisions declined as a share of GMV to 0.52%. That rate reflects continued underwriting improvements, growing forward flow arrangements, and the natural maturation of our fair financing book.
Speaker #1: The dollar growth follows the size of the book. Funding cost was $171 million, broadly flat sequentially, at 0.47% of GMV. We delivered a strong transaction margin dollar result of $446 million, up 42%, or 39% on a like-for-like basis.
Niclas Neglén: We delivered a strong transaction margin dollar result of $446 million, up 42%, or 39% on a like-for-like basis. As a percentage of GMV, that is 1.22%, or 1.14% adjusted for the one-off sale. in the US, transaction margin dollars was $88 million, up 126% year over year, more than three times the pace of revenue growth, which was 37%. That takes the US margin from 14% of revenue a year ago to 23% in Q2. Sequentially, it was modestly below Q1 as we completed our back book receivable sale in Q1 that we did not repeat. Global ex-US transaction margin dollars was $358 million, up 30%, and a 54% margin, up four percentage points year on year, and sequentially higher than Q1 as we executed a back book sale alongside the launch of our German forward flow during the quarter.
Niclas Neglén: We delivered a strong transaction margin dollar result of $446 million, up 42%, or 39% on a like-for-like basis. As a percentage of GMV, that is 1.22%, or 1.14% adjusted for the one-off sale. in the US, transaction margin dollars was $88 million, up 126% year over year, more than three times the pace of revenue growth, which was 37%. That takes the US margin from 14% of revenue a year ago to 23% in Q2. Sequentially, it was modestly below Q1 as we completed our back book receivable sale in Q1 that we did not repeat. Global ex-US transaction margin dollars was $358 million, up 30%, and a 54% margin, up four percentage points year on year, and sequentially higher than Q1 as we executed a back book sale alongside the launch of our German forward flow during the quarter.
Speaker #1: As a percentage of GMV, that is 1.22%, or 1.14% adjusted for the one-off sale. In the U.S., transaction margin dollars were $88 million, up 126% year over year—more than three times the pace of revenue growth, which was 37%.
Speaker #1: That takes the U.S. margin from 14% of revenue a year ago to 23% in the second quarter. Sequentially, it was modestly below the first quarter as we completed our back book receivable sale in Q1, which we did not repeat.
Speaker #1: Global ex-U.S. transaction margin dollars was $358 million, up 30%, at a 54% margin—up 4 percentage points year on year, and sequentially higher than the first quarter as we executed our backbook sale alongside the launch of our German forward flow during the quarter.
Speaker #1: Ex-U.S. volume grew 15%, revenue 22%, and transaction margin 30%. Our most established markets run at approximately 60% transaction margin. The 450 basis point uplift we delivered this quarter closes more of that gap.
Niclas Neglén: Ex-US volume grew 15%, revenue 22%, and transaction margin 30%. Our most established markets run at approximately 60% transaction margin. The 450 basis point uplift we delivered this quarter closes more of that gap. Consumer delinquency rates remain healthy across both product lines. Here are the US delinquencies. The green dots represents our newest cohorts of origination from Q1 2026. As you can see, they are lower than our Q4 cohorts, representing a sequential improvement. Comparing each vintage at the same point in life, Fair Financing delinquencies 30 plus days past due fell approximately 20 basis points quarter over quarter. Pay Later improved approximately 30 basis points on the same measure, in line with the same period last year. Our global ex-US book improved on the same basis, with recent cohorts down both quarter over quarter and year over year.
Niclas Neglén: Ex-US volume grew 15%, revenue 22%, and transaction margin 30%. Our most established markets run at approximately 60% transaction margin. The 450 basis point uplift we delivered this quarter closes more of that gap. Consumer delinquency rates remain healthy across both product lines. Here are the US delinquencies. The green dots represents our newest cohorts of origination from Q1 2026. As you can see, they are lower than our Q4 cohorts, representing a sequential improvement. Comparing each vintage at the same point in life, Fair Financing delinquencies 30 plus days past due fell approximately 20 basis points quarter over quarter. Pay Later improved approximately 30 basis points on the same measure, in line with the same period last year. Our global ex-US book improved on the same basis, with recent cohorts down both quarter over quarter and year over year.
Speaker #2: Consumer delinquency rates remain healthy across both product lines. Here are the U.S. delinquencies. The green dots represent our newest core origination from Q1 '26. As you can see, they are lower than our Q4 cohorts, representing a sequential improvement.
Speaker #2: Comparing each vintage at the same point in life, fair financing delinquency 30-plus days past due fell approximately 20 basis points quarter over quarter.
Speaker #2: Pay Later improved approximately 30 basis points on the same measure, in line with the same period last year. Our global ex-U.S. book improved on the same basis, with recent coercive down both quarter over quarter and year over year, and you can find those metrics in our supplementary data pack.
Niclas Neglén: You can find those metrics in our supplementary data pack. This is a short duration, high frequency credit with the portfolio turning over 10 times a year with an average consumer balance of just $124. We underwrite every transaction individually, starting customers with small balances and scaling exposure only as we build confidence. Where we have taken a more measured view of volume, that is a conscious choice to hold our underwriting standards and stay within our credit box. We would rather protect our risk-adjusted returns than chase marginal volume. Before the outlook, the scoreboard on what we told you in May. We said provisions would keep declining as a share of GMV. They did, from 55 basis points to 52, the third consecutive quarterly decline. We said transaction margin dollars would continue to compound faster than revenue, and they are. Now let me take you through our outlook.
Niclas Neglén: You can find those metrics in our supplementary data pack. This is a short duration, high frequency credit with the portfolio turning over 10 times a year with an average consumer balance of just $124. We underwrite every transaction individually, starting customers with small balances and scaling exposure only as we build confidence. Where we have taken a more measured view of volume, that is a conscious choice to hold our underwriting standards and stay within our credit box. We would rather protect our risk-adjusted returns than chase marginal volume. Before the outlook, the scoreboard on what we told you in May. We said provisions would keep declining as a share of GMV. They did, from 55 basis points to 52, the third consecutive quarterly decline. We said transaction margin dollars would continue to compound faster than revenue, and they are. Now let me take you through our outlook.
Speaker #1: This is a short-duration, high-frequency credit, with a portfolio turning over 10 times a year, and an average consumer balance of just $124.
Speaker #1: We underwrite every transaction individually, starting customers with small balances and scaling exposure only as we build confidence. Where we have taken a more measured view of volume, that is a conscious choice to hold our underwriting standards and stay within our credit box.
Speaker #1: We would rather protect our risk-adjusted returns than chase marginal volume.
Speaker #2: Before the outlook, the scoreboard on what we told you in May: we said provisions would keep declining as a share of GMV. They did, from 55 basis points to 52.
Speaker #2: The third consecutive quarterly decline. We said compound faster than revenue, and they are. Now, let me take you through our outlook. We are guiding to GMV of $149 to $151 billion, adjusted from above the $155 billion previously.
Niclas Neglén: We are guiding to GMV of $149 to $151 billion, adjusted from above the $155 billion previously. That is a growth of approximately 17% year over year. Of that revision, approximately $600 million is currency movement since our previous guidance. The remainder is a more measured view of European volumes concentrated in Germany, our largest market by volume, where retail sales grew less than 1% in real terms in H1. This is consistent with what you have heard across German retail this season. Our guidance simply assumes Germany stays softer rather than recovering. We expect GMV growth in the US to be strong in H2 as we scale five significant integrations, JPMorgan, Adyen, Worldline, Worldpay, now part of Global Payments, and Fiserv's Clover. We are excited about the launch of the Apple Upgrade program.
Niclas Neglén: We are guiding to GMV of $149 to $151 billion, adjusted from above the $155 billion previously. That is a growth of approximately 17% year over year. Of that revision, approximately $600 million is currency movement since our previous guidance. The remainder is a more measured view of European volumes concentrated in Germany, our largest market by volume, where retail sales grew less than 1% in real terms in H1. This is consistent with what you have heard across German retail this season. Our guidance simply assumes Germany stays softer rather than recovering. We expect GMV growth in the US to be strong in H2 as we scale five significant integrations, JPMorgan, Adyen, Worldline, Worldpay, now part of Global Payments, and Fiserv's Clover. We are excited about the launch of the Apple Upgrade program.
Speaker #2: That is a growth of approximately 17% year over year. Of that revision, approximately $600 million is currency movement since our previous guidance. The remainder is a more measured view of European volumes, concentrated in Germany, our largest market by volume, where retail sales grew less than 1% in real terms in the first half.
Speaker #2: This is consistent with what you have heard across German retail this season. Our guidance simply assumes Germany stays softer, rather than recovering. We expect GMV growth in the U.S.
Speaker #2: to be strong in the second half, as we scaled five significant integrations: JPMorgan, Adyen, Worldline, Worldpay—now part of Global Payments—and Pfizer's Clover.
Speaker #2: And we are excited by the launch of the Apple Upgrade Program.
Speaker #1: U.S. volume assumptions are unchanged, and the U.S. remains our fastest-growing large region.
Niclas Neglén: US volumes assumptions are unchanged, and the US remains our fastest-growing large region. On revenue, we expect $4.08 billion to $4.16 billion against above $4.34 billion previously guided. From H2 2026, we expect to manage a larger share of our US and German Fair Financing books with intent to sell. That shifts substantially all new originations for these products and regions from booking provisions upfront to fair value through P&L, with fair value recognized in the gain on sale line at origination as required under IFRS 9. The effect is presentational. Reported revenue and transaction costs each reduce by approximately 10 basis points of GMV, which is why the reported take rate is down to 2.74% to 2.75%, while the comparable take rate rises to 2.84% to 2.85%. Because prior periods are not restated, reported revenue in Q3 and Q4 will understate the underlying business.
Niclas Neglén: US volumes assumptions are unchanged, and the US remains our fastest-growing large region. On revenue, we expect $4.08 billion to $4.16 billion against above $4.34 billion previously guided. From H2 2026, we expect to manage a larger share of our US and German Fair Financing books with intent to sell. That shifts substantially all new originations for these products and regions from booking provisions upfront to fair value through P&L, with fair value recognized in the gain on sale line at origination as required under IFRS 9. The effect is presentational. Reported revenue and transaction costs each reduce by approximately 10 basis points of GMV, which is why the reported take rate is down to 2.74% to 2.75%, while the comparable take rate rises to 2.84% to 2.85%. Because prior periods are not restated, reported revenue in Q3 and Q4 will understate the underlying business.
Speaker #2: On revenue, we expect $4.08 to $4.16 billion, compared to above $4.34 billion previously guided. From the second half of 2026, we expect to manage a larger share of our U.S.
Speaker #2: ...and German fair financing books within 10 to sell. That shifts substantially all new originations for these products and regions from booking provisions upfront to fair values through P&L, with fair value recognized in the gain on sale line at origination, as required under IFRS 9.
Speaker #1: This effect is presentational; reported revenue and transaction costs are each reduced by approximately 10 basis points of GMV. This is why the reported take rate is down to 2.74% to 2.75%, while the comparable take rate rises to 2.84% to 2.85%.
Speaker #1: And because prior periods are not restated, reported revenue in the third and fourth quarters will understate the underlying business. The revenue lines move; the margin line does not.
Niclas Neglén: The revenue lines move, the margin line does not. Turning to transaction margin, we are raising our full-year outlook SEK 1.62 billion to SEK 1.65 billion, or 1.09% of GMV, up from the 1.04% we guided in May. Given the fair value presentation change, more of the economics are recognized earlier. There is a small timing benefit equivalent to expected approximately two basis points positive impact to full year 2026 transaction margin as a share of GMV. The rest comes from our better economics. Excluding the presentation change, stronger unit economics are expected to contribute between $40 million and $50 million of TMD for the year on lower volume. This change applies prospectively to new originations from H2 2026. Prior periods are not restated, and loans already on our balance sheet continue to recognize interest income and provisions as previously.
Niclas Neglén: The revenue lines move, the margin line does not. Turning to transaction margin, we are raising our full-year outlook SEK 1.62 billion to SEK 1.65 billion, or 1.09% of GMV, up from the 1.04% we guided in May. Given the fair value presentation change, more of the economics are recognized earlier. There is a small timing benefit equivalent to expected approximately two basis points positive impact to full year 2026 transaction margin as a share of GMV. The rest comes from our better economics. Excluding the presentation change, stronger unit economics are expected to contribute between $40 million and $50 million of TMD for the year on lower volume. This change applies prospectively to new originations from H2 2026. Prior periods are not restated, and loans already on our balance sheet continue to recognize interest income and provisions as previously.
Speaker #2: Turning to transaction margin, we are raising our full-year outlook to $1.62 to $1.65 billion, or 1.09% of GMV, up from the 1.04% we guided in May.
Speaker #2: Given the fair value presentation change, more of the economics are recognized earlier. There is a small timing benefit, equivalent to an expected approximately 2 basis points positive impact to full-year 2026 transaction margin as a share of GMV.
Speaker #2: The rest comes from our better economics. Excluding the presentation change, stronger unit economics are expected to contribute between $40 and $50 million of T&D for the year on lower volume.
Speaker #1: This change applies prospectively to new originations from the second half of '26. Prior periods are not restated, and loans already on our balance sheet continue to recognize interest income and provisions as previously.
Speaker #1: A video explaining this concept is available on our Investor Relations website.
Niclas Neglén: A video explaining this concept is available on our investor relations website. We are earning more on every dollar we process, driven by Fair Financing volumes, our offloading programs, the Klarna Card, and the growing membership fees. We expect adjusted operating income of $280 million to $300 million at 6.9% to 7.2% of revenue. For context, we delivered $65 million of adjusted operating income in the whole of 2025. We have delivered $159 million in H1 of this year alone, and this guide is more than four times the 2025 full year. On costs, individual quarters move with the timing of our investments. For the full year, we are guiding to roughly 15% growth in our adjusted operating expenses versus a transaction margin dollar growth of over 30%. We are investing to compound growth over the long term through the H2's launches.
Niclas Neglén: A video explaining this concept is available on our investor relations website. We are earning more on every dollar we process, driven by Fair Financing volumes, our offloading programs, the Klarna Card, and the growing membership fees. We expect adjusted operating income of $280 million to $300 million at 6.9% to 7.2% of revenue. For context, we delivered $65 million of adjusted operating income in the whole of 2025. We have delivered $159 million in H1 of this year alone, and this guide is more than four times the 2025 full year. On costs, individual quarters move with the timing of our investments. For the full year, we are guiding to roughly 15% growth in our adjusted operating expenses versus a transaction margin dollar growth of over 30%. We are investing to compound growth over the long term through the H2's launches.
Speaker #2: We are earning more on every dollar we process, driven by fair financing volumes, our offloading programs, the card, and the growing membership fees.
Speaker #1: We expect adjusted operating income of $280 to $300 million, at 6.9% to 7.2% of revenue.
Speaker #2: For context, we delivered $65 million of adjusted operating income in the whole of 2025. We have delivered $150.9 million in the first half of this year alone, and this guidance is more than four times the 2025 full-year figure.
Speaker #1: On costs, individual quarters move with the timing of our investments. For the full year, we are guiding to roughly 15% growth in our adjusted operating expenses, versus our transaction margin dollar growth of over 30%.
Speaker #2: We're investing to compound growth over the long term through the second half's launches. In dollar terms, adjusted operating income moves with the revenue base.
Niclas Neglén: In dollar terms, adjusted operating income moves with the revenue base. On margin, we are guiding in line to modestly above May. Q3 is deliberately our investment quarter. It funds the largest set of launches in our history. We are guiding to volume of $35 billion to $36 billion, revenue of $940 million to $980 million, transaction margin dollars of $340 million to $360 million, and an adjusted operating income of $5 million to $15 million. Q3 will be the highest level on the share-based payments in 2026, reflecting our vesting and our grant of our annual compensation review. Q4 is where we expect that investment to show, with PSP and Marquee Merchants live ahead of peak season. We expect it to be a strong transaction margin quarter with strong drop through to adjusted operating income.
Niclas Neglén: In dollar terms, adjusted operating income moves with the revenue base. On margin, we are guiding in line to modestly above May. Q3 is deliberately our investment quarter. It funds the largest set of launches in our history. We are guiding to volume of $35 billion to $36 billion, revenue of $940 million to $980 million, transaction margin dollars of $340 million to $360 million, and an adjusted operating income of $5 million to $15 million. Q3 will be the highest level on the share-based payments in 2026, reflecting our vesting and our grant of our annual compensation review. Q4 is where we expect that investment to show, with PSP and Marquee Merchants live ahead of peak season. We expect it to be a strong transaction margin quarter with strong drop through to adjusted operating income.
Speaker #2: On margin, we are guiding in line to modestly above May.
Speaker #1: The third quarter is deliberately our investment quarter. It funds the largest set of launches in our history. We are guiding to volume of $35 to $36 billion, revenue of $940 to $980 million, transaction margin dollars of $340 to $360 million, and an adjusted operating income of $5 to $15 million.
Speaker #2: The third quarter will be the highest level on the share-based payments in 2026, reflecting our vesting and our grant of our annual compensation review.
Speaker #1: The fourth quarter is where we expect that investment to show, with PSP and marquee merchants live ahead of peak season.
Speaker #2: We expect it to be a strong transaction margin quarter, with strong drop-through to adjusted operating income.
Speaker #1: We exit this year with a wider network, five PSPs enabling Klarna as a default on-payment option, our leasing program, and a structurally higher margin mix.
Niclas Neglén: We exit this year with a wider network, five PSPs enabling Klarna as a default on payment option, our leasing program, and a structurally higher margin mix. We measure our progress in transaction margin dollars. Every dollar of volume we process is worth more to us today than it was a year ago. With that, Sebastian and I are happy to take your questions.
Niclas Neglén: We exit this year with a wider network, five PSPs enabling Klarna as a default on payment option, our leasing program, and a structurally higher margin mix. We measure our progress in transaction margin dollars. Every dollar of volume we process is worth more to us today than it was a year ago. With that, Sebastian and I are happy to take your questions.
Speaker #2: We measure our progress in transaction margin dollars. Every dollar of volume we process is worth more to us today than it was a year ago.
Speaker #1: With that, Sebastian and I are happy to take your questions.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Sebastian, Niclas. We will now move to questions from the analysts. A friendly reminder that to join the queue, participants should dial the pound key, then 5, on their telephone keypad, and please limit yourself to one question.
David Sandström: Thank you, Sebastian and Niclas. We will now move to questions from the analysts. A friendly reminder that to join the queue, participants should dial pound key five on their telephone keypad, and please limit yourself to one question. Your first question comes from Will Nance from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you, Sebastian and Niclas. We will now move to questions from the analysts. A friendly reminder that to join the queue, participants should dial pound key five on their telephone keypad, and please limit yourself to one question. Your first question comes from Will Nance from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Speaker #3: Your first question comes from Will Nance from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Will Nance: Hey, guys. Thank you for taking the question. I wanted to touch on some of the moving pieces in the transaction margin in the H2 guidance. Obviously, very strong margin result this quarter, and nice to see continued improvements in most of the credit metrics across the board. Can you talk about the expectations for transaction margin in the H2? It seems like that has been quite strong for the H1, and then the guidance implies an exit rate considerably lower than the H1. I might have thought with the fair value changes, you might have seen some incremental lift there. Just maybe talk through, help us understand
Will Nance: Hey, guys. Thank you for taking the question. I wanted to touch on some of the moving pieces in the transaction margin in the H2 guidance. Obviously, very strong margin result this quarter, and nice to see continued improvements in most of the credit metrics across the board. Can you talk about the expectations for transaction margin in the H2? It seems like that has been quite strong for the H1, and then the guidance implies an exit rate considerably lower than the H1. I might have thought with the fair value changes, you might have seen some incremental lift there. Just maybe talk through, help us understand what seasonality, is there some element of prudence in the guide, and how are you thinking about continued ramps in Fair Financing driving the overall transaction margin over time? Thank you.
Speaker #4: Hi, guys. Thank you for taking the question. I wanted to touch on some of the moving pieces in the transaction margin in the back half of the year guidance.
Speaker #4: Obviously, a very strong margin result this quarter, and it's nice to see continued improvements in most of the credit metrics across the board. Can you talk about the expectations for transaction margin in the back half of the year?
Speaker #4: It seems like that's been quite strong for the first half of the year, and then the guidance implies an exit rate that's considerably lower than the first half of the year.
Speaker #4: I might have thought with the fair value changes, you might have seen some incremental lift there. So, just maybe talk through—help us understand what's seasonality, is there some element of prudence in the guide, and how are you thinking about continued ramps of fair financing driving the overall transaction margin over time?
Will Nance: what seasonality, is there some element of prudence in the guide, and how are you thinking about continued ramps in Fair Financing driving the overall transaction margin over time? Thank you.
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Great, thanks. Hi, Will. This is Niclas here. Good question. So if you look at it, we're looking at around 23% year-over-year growth on T&D in the second half.
Niclas Neglén: Great. Thanks. Hi, Will, it's Niclas here. Good question. If you look at it, we're looking at around about 23% year-over-year growth on TMD in H2, if you take the midpoint of our guide. That is compared to 42% in H1 of 2026, right? This is quite natural for a couple of reasons. Firstly, obviously, we had the lapping of the Fair Financing growth that kicked off at the back end of Q2 2025. We also have the FX, which we should not forget. We had an FX devaluation in H2 of this quarter and such, right? I think those are the key things that are driving it. If you just break it down a little bit, what you're going to see here is overarchingly, interest income in Q2 was around about 72 basis points or 0.72%.
Niclas Neglén: Great. Thanks. Hi, Will, it's Niclas here. Good question. If you look at it, we're looking at around about 23% year-over-year growth on TMD in H2, if you take the midpoint of our guide. That is compared to 42% in H1 of 2026, right? This is quite natural for a couple of reasons. Firstly, obviously, we had the lapping of the Fair Financing growth that kicked off at the back end of Q2 2025. We also have the FX, which we should not forget. We had an FX devaluation in H2 of this quarter and such, right? I think those are the key things that are driving it. If you just break it down a little bit, what you're going to see here is overarchingly, interest income in Q2 was around about 72 basis points or 0.72%.
Speaker #1: If you take the midpoint of our guide, that's compared to 42% in the first half of '26, right? This is quite natural for a couple of reasons.
Speaker #1: Firstly, obviously, we had the lapping of the fair financing growth that kicked off at the back end of Q2 '25. We also have the FX, which we should not forget, we had a an FX devaluation in the second half of this the second half of this quarter, and such, right?
Speaker #1: So I think those are the key things that are driving it. But if you look at it, if you just break it down a little bit, right, what you're going to see here is, overarchingly, interest income in the second quarter was around about 72 basis points, or 0.72%.
Speaker #1: In the third quarter and fourth quarter, given the fair value presentation, we're going to see that coming in a little bit lower. Gain on sale will obviously be running at about the same percentage level as Q2, as a percentage of GMV.
Niclas Neglén: In Q3 and Q4, given the fair value presentation, we're going to see that coming in a little bit lower. Gain on sale will be obviously running around about the same percentage level as Q2 as a percentage of GMV. Processing and servicing costs will grow a little bit ahead of GMV based on the fact that we're doing card and financing mix shifts. Then we have our provisions, which we expect to see relative stability to slight downward trends in H2 of the year. If you look at it in parallel, we're continuing to grow really strongly in the US. You can see the TMD rising from 14% to 23% year over year. We expect that particularly to compound with the new pipeline that we have with default options or the default partners that are coming on board as well.
Niclas Neglén: In Q3 and Q4, given the fair value presentation, we're going to see that coming in a little bit lower. Gain on sale will be obviously running around about the same percentage level as Q2 as a percentage of GMV. Processing and servicing costs will grow a little bit ahead of GMV based on the fact that we're doing card and financing mix shifts. Then we have our provisions, which we expect to see relative stability to slight downward trends in H2 of the year. If you look at it in parallel, we're continuing to grow really strongly in the US. You can see the TMD rising from 14% to 23% year over year. We expect that particularly to compound with the new pipeline that we have with default options or the default partners that are coming on board as well.
Speaker #1: Processing and servicing costs will grow a little bit ahead of GMV, based on the fact that we’re doing card and financing mix shifts. Then we have our provisions, which we expect to see relative stability to slight downward trends in the second half of the year.
Speaker #1: And so, if you look at it, we're continuing to grow really strongly in the US. You can see the T&D rising from 14% to 23% year-over-year.
Speaker #1: And we expect that, particularly, to compound with the new pipeline that we have with default options or the default partners that are coming on board as well.
Speaker #1: So, overarchingly, the key thing here is continued strong growth, particularly in the US, on the volume side. That's then really turning into strong T&D performance into the second half as well.
Niclas Neglén: Overarchingly, the key thing here is continued strong growth, particularly in the US, on the volume side. That's then really turning into strong TMD performance into H2 as well, with then a bit of headwinds from the FX from that.
Niclas Neglén: Overarchingly, the key thing here is continued strong growth, particularly in the US, on the volume side. That's then really turning into strong TMD performance into H2 as well, with then a bit of headwinds from the FX from that.
Speaker #1: With, then, a bit of headwinds on the FX from that.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from Rob Wildhack from Autonomous Research. Please go ahead.
David Sandström: Your next question comes from Rob Wildhack from Autonomous Research. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from Rob Wildhack from Autonomous Research. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Hi, guys. Just to unpack the volume guide, can you give us some more details? It seems like your market—I know it's about low 20% of revenue—but given the effect that that region is having on the outlook, can you give us some color on GMV that comes from Germany?
Rob Wildhack: Hi, guys. Just to unpack the volume guide, can you give us some more details? It seems like you're attributing the slowdown there to the German market. I know it's about low 20% of revenue, but given the effect that that region is having on the outlook, can you give us some color on GMV that comes from Germany, the mix between Pay Later and any Fair Financing, and then what kind of growth were you expecting for Germany earlier this year versus what's the revised growth outlook for Germany embedded in your guidance today?
Rob Wildhack: Hi, guys. Just to unpack the volume guide, can you give us some more details? It seems like you're attributing the slowdown there to the German market. I know it's about low 20% of revenue, but given the effect that that region is having on the outlook, can you give us some color on GMV that comes from Germany, the mix between Pay Later and any Fair Financing, and then what kind of growth were you expecting for Germany earlier this year versus what's the revised growth outlook for Germany embedded in your guidance today?
Speaker #5: The mix between Pay Later and any fair financing—and then, what kind of growth were you expecting for Germany earlier this year versus what's the revised growth outlook for Germany embedded in your guidance today?
Speaker #1: Sure, great. So, if you look at it, what we saw towards the back end of Q2 was a softening in basically the consumer discretionary spend in Germany.
Niclas Neglén: Sure, great. If you look at it, what we saw towards the back end of Q2 was a softening in basically the consumer discretionary spend in Germany. Germany is our largest share of volume, or our largest market from a volume perspective, right? What you're seeing is primarily there, you have Pay Later and Pay in full being large portions of that business. What we saw in the beginning of Q3, which just compounds the trend, is the fact that we're seeing continuously softness in that German market, particularly in the discretionary spend on the retail side. That's what we're playing out through the rest of the year, assuming that we're not seeing a recouping of that. So that's really the baseline for it.
Niclas Neglén: Sure, great. If you look at it, what we saw towards the back end of Q2 was a softening in basically the consumer discretionary spend in Germany. Germany is our largest share of volume, or our largest market from a volume perspective, right? What you're seeing is primarily there, you have Pay Later and Pay in full being large portions of that business. What we saw in the beginning of Q3, which just compounds the trend, is the fact that we're seeing continuously softness in that German market, particularly in the discretionary spend on the retail side. That's what we're playing out through the rest of the year, assuming that we're not seeing a recouping of that. So that's really the baseline for it.
Speaker #1: Germany is our largest share of volume, or our largest market from a volume perspective, right? And what you're seeing is, primarily there, you have 'pay later' and 'pay now' being large portions of that business.
Speaker #1: What we saw in the beginning of the third quarter, which compounds the trend, is the fact that we're seeing continued softness in that German market, particularly in discretionary spend on the retail side.
Speaker #1: And that's what we're playing out through the rest of the year, assuming that we're not seeing a recouping of that. So that's really the baseline for it.
Speaker #5: Thanks. And if I could follow up on that, if Germany's basically 'Pay Later' and 'Pay Now', and less 'Fair Financing', so those are lower margins versus 'Fair Financing', which is higher margin, and that's the reason that the volume's slow.
Rob Wildhack: Thanks. If I could follow up on that, if Germany's basically Pay Later and Pay in full, and less Fair Financing. So those are lower margins versus Fair Financing, which is higher margin. That's the reason that the volume's slow. I guess, why is the transaction margin so much softer in H2 if your slowing region is lower margin? Does that make sense?
Rob Wildhack: Thanks. If I could follow up on that, if Germany's basically Pay Later and Pay in full, and less Fair Financing. So those are lower margins versus Fair Financing, which is higher margin. That's the reason that the volume's slow. I guess, why is the transaction margin so much softer in H2 if your slowing region is lower margin? Does that make sense?
Speaker #5: I guess, why is the transaction margin so much softer in the second half if your slowing region is lower margin? Does that make sense?
Speaker #1: Yeah, I think—but I don't think it's so much that. If you look at it, transaction margin dollars are still growing very, very healthily.
Niclas Neglén: Yeah. But I don't think it's so much that. If you look at it, transaction margin dollars is still growing very healthily at 23%. Again, I think if you compare it to H1, part of that is more a performance in H1 2025 when we had slower growth and therefore slower TMD progression. The comp was different there, right? In H2, we're working against both the FX reval, but also at the same time, we had a stronger growth in H2, particularly around Fair Financing in the US. So I think this is really around the US growth, more so than the softening of the German volumes regards to TMD. Ultimately, if you look at it-
Niclas Neglén: Yeah. But I don't think it's so much that. If you look at it, transaction margin dollars is still growing very healthily at 23%. Again, I think if you compare it to H1, part of that is more a performance in H1 2025 when we had slower growth and therefore slower TMD progression. The comp was different there, right? In H2, we're working against both the FX reval, but also at the same time, we had a stronger growth in H2, particularly around Fair Financing in the US. So I think this is really around the US growth, more so than the softening of the German volumes regards to TMD. Ultimately, if you look at it-
Speaker #1: At 23%. Again, I think if you compare it to the first half of the year, part of that is more a performance in the first half of 2025, when we had slower growth and therefore slower T&D progression.
Speaker #1: And so the comp was different there, right? In the second half, we were working against both the FX reval, but also, at the same time, we had stronger growth in the second half of the year, particularly around fair financing in the US.
Speaker #1: So, I think this is really around the US growth, more so than the softening of the German volumes with regards to T&D. Ultimately, if you look at it...
David Sandström: Next, we'll go to the line.
Operator: Next, we'll go to the line.
Speaker #3: Thanks. We'll go to the line.
Speaker #1: Yeah. Go ahead.
Niclas Neglén: Yeah, go ahead.
Niclas Neglén: Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker #3: Next, we'll go to the line of Harshita Rawat from Bernstein. Please go ahead.
David Sandström: Next, we'll go to the line of Harshita Rawat from Bernstein. Please go ahead.
Operator: Next, we'll go to the line of Harshita Rawat from Bernstein. Please go ahead.
Harshita Rawat: Hi. Good morning, Niclas. We'll miss working with you. Best wishes. Sebastian, I want to follow up on the planned departures after long tenures. You said the CFO search is explicitly New York-based. Why is that? Also, should investors infer any change in approach to funding, capital allocation, brand investment, US expansion from this leadership change? Thank you.
Harshita Rawat: Hi. Good morning, Niclas. We'll miss working with you. Best wishes. Sebastian, I want to follow up on the planned departures after long tenures. You said the CFO search is explicitly New York-based. Why is that? Also, should investors infer any change in approach to funding, capital allocation, brand investment, US expansion from this leadership change? Thank you.
Speaker #6: Hi, good morning. Niclas, we missed working with you. Best wishes. Sebastian, I want to follow up on the planned departures after long tenures. You said the CFO search is explicitly nuance-based.
Speaker #6: Why is that? And also, should investors infer any change in approach to funding, capital allocation, brand investments, U.S. expansion, and this leadership change?
Speaker #6: Thank you.
Speaker #5: I'm sorry. Can you repeat the second half of that question? I couldn't really hear. Sorry.
Niclas Neglén: I am sorry. Can you repeat the second half of that question? I could not really hear, sorry.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: I am sorry. Can you repeat the second half of that question? I could not really hear, sorry.
Speaker #6: Yeah, no worries. So I think the second part of the question was: should investors infer any change in Klarna's approach to funding, capital allocation, investor engagement, or US expansion from this leadership change?
Harshita Rawat: Yeah, no worries. The second part of the question was, should investors infer any change in Klarna's approach to funding, capital allocation, investor engagement, US expansion from this leadership change? Thank you.
Harshita Rawat: Yeah, no worries. The second part of the question was, should investors infer any change in Klarna's approach to funding, capital allocation, investor engagement, US expansion from this leadership change? Thank you.
Speaker #6: Thank you.
Speaker #5: Got it. Well, look, I think that, as we highlighted here, this is a long-term, forward-looking plan, and these transitions are expected to happen at the beginning of next year.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Well, look, I think that as we highlighted here, this is long-term, forward-looking, and planning. These transitions are expected to happen at the beginning of next year. Both Niclas and David have been amazing contributors and built solid foundations within the organizations that will continue to operate. We plan to continue operating the way we have. When it comes in regards to New York in particular, it is obviously the case that Klarna continues to perform extremely well in US. It is our largest market by revenue, not yet by volume as we heard in regards to Germany, but largest by revenue. And it is where we have over 30 million consumers. So having a stronger presence in New York is important to us. At the same time, we think it is also helpful to be close to the investor relations community and the stock market and so forth.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Well, look, I think that as we highlighted here, this is long-term, forward-looking, and planning. These transitions are expected to happen at the beginning of next year. Both Niclas and David have been amazing contributors and built solid foundations within the organizations that will continue to operate. We plan to continue operating the way we have. When it comes in regards to New York in particular, it is obviously the case that Klarna continues to perform extremely well in US. It is our largest market by revenue, not yet by volume as we heard in regards to Germany, but largest by revenue. And it is where we have over 30 million consumers. So having a stronger presence in New York is important to us. At the same time, we think it is also helpful to be close to the investor relations community and the stock market and so forth.
Speaker #5: Both Niclas and David have been amazing contributors and have built solid foundations within the organization that will continue as we plan to operate the way we have.
Speaker #5: When it comes to New York in particular, it's obviously the case that Klarna continues to perform extremely well in the US. It's our largest market by revenue.
Speaker #5: Not yet by volume, as we heard in regards to Germany, but largest by revenue. And it's where we have over 30 million consumers. So having a stronger presence in New York is important to us.
Speaker #5: At the same time, we think it's also helpful to be close to the investor relations community, the stock market, and so forth.
Speaker #6: Thank you.
Harshita Rawat: Thank you.
Harshita Rawat: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from James Fawcett from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
David Sandström: Your next question comes from James Faucette from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from James Faucette from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Funding.
James Faucette: Funding.
James Faucette: Funding.
Speaker #1: James, I don't think we can hear you.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: James, I don't think we can hear you.
Niclas Neglén: James, I don't think we can hear you.
Speaker #7: Hello. Can you hear me now?
James Faucette: Hello, can you hear me now?
James Faucette: Hello, can you hear me now?
Speaker #1: Yes, now we can hear you, James.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Yes, now we can hear you, James.
Niclas Neglén: Yes, now we can hear you, James.
Speaker #7: Oh, apologies about that. I wanted to ask quickly about FordFlow and financing. Just wondering how we should think about expectations for loans sold on both Pay Later and Fair Financing.
James Faucette: Oh, apologies about that. I wanted to ask quickly on forward flow and financing, just wondering how we should think about expectations for loans sold on both Pay Later and Fair Financing, and how we should think about evolution of gain on sale margins with the fair value change.
James Faucette: Oh, apologies about that. I wanted to ask quickly on forward flow and financing, just wondering how we should think about expectations for loans sold on both Pay Later and Fair Financing, and how we should think about evolution of gain on sale margins with the fair value change.
Speaker #7: And how should we think about the evolution of gain on sale margins with the fair value change?
Speaker #1: Yeah, so ultimately, the strategy for us is very clear, right? And that is that we will try to be as capital-light as possible and as capital-efficient as possible.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Yeah. So ultimately, the strategy for us is very clear, right? That is that we will try to be as capital light as possible and as capital efficient as possible. We have had very good success in building out these programs, and we are very focused, particularly on the Fair Financing forward flows. I think as we've ramped them up to a certain level now, we've come to the point where basically all, substantially all of our loans will be eligible to be sold in the H2 of this year, and that's where we're making that fair value change. Ultimately, like I said, if you look at it in totality, we are guiding to about 1.09% of transaction margin TMD.
Niclas Neglén: Yeah. So ultimately, the strategy for us is very clear, right? That is that we will try to be as capital light as possible and as capital efficient as possible. We have had very good success in building out these programs, and we are very focused, particularly on the Fair Financing forward flows. I think as we've ramped them up to a certain level now, we've come to the point where basically all, substantially all of our loans will be eligible to be sold in the H2 of this year, and that's where we're making that fair value change. Ultimately, like I said, if you look at it in totality, we are guiding to about 1.09% of transaction margin TMD.
Speaker #1: We have had very good success in building out these programs, and we are very focused, particularly on the fair financing forward flows. And I think, as we've ramped them up to a certain level now, we've come to the point where basically all, substantially all, of our loans will be eligible to be sold in the second half of this year.
Speaker #1: And that's where we're making that fair value change, right? Ultimately, like I said, if you look at it in totality, we are guiding to about 1.09% of transaction margin T&D.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: If you think of it from that perspective, about 2 basis points is pulled forward in that fair value view, which means that the gain on sale is basically going to be slightly flatter because you're adding more of it into the H2 of the year. But at the same time, you're actually pulling up TMD. What you fundamentally are doing, excluding the fair value, is improving the TMD for the volume base that we actually have. As I said earlier on the call, we have about 1.9% of TMD in the guide, and if you back out the 2 basis points, we have 1.07% in TMD. That's an actual raise versus the 1.04.
Speaker #1: And if you think of it from that perspective, about two basis points is pulled forward in that FVO view, which means that the gain on sale is basically going to be slightly flatter because you're adding more of it into the second half of the year.
Niclas Neglén: If you think of it from that perspective, about 2 basis points is pulled forward in that fair value view, which means that the gain on sale is basically going to be slightly flatter because you're adding more of it into the H2 of the year. But at the same time, you're actually pulling up TMD. What you fundamentally are doing, excluding the fair value, is improving the TMD for the volume base that we actually have. As I said earlier on the call, we have about 1.9% of TMD in the guide, and if you back out the 2 basis points, we have 1.07% in TMD. That's an actual raise versus the 1.04. It actually means that we're adding about SEK 40 to SEK 50 million more of true transaction margin dollars, i.e., we're generating more transaction margin dollars for every dollar of volume that we bring in.
Speaker #1: But at the same time, you're actually pulling up T&D. So what you fundamentally are doing, excluding the fair value, is improving the T&D for the volume base that we actually have.
Speaker #1: So as I said earlier on the call, right, we have about 1.9% of T&D in the guide. And if you back out the two basis points, we have 1.07% in T&D.
Speaker #1: That's an actual raise versus the 1.04. And it actually means that we're adding about $40 to $50 million more of transaction margin dollars; i.e., we're generating more transaction margin dollars for every dollar of volume that we bring in.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: It actually means that we're adding about SEK 40 to SEK 50 million more of true transaction margin dollars, i.e., we're generating more transaction margin dollars for every dollar of volume that we bring in.
Speaker #7: Great, thank you very much. And you may have missed it, but Niclas, thank you very much for all your contribution. Good luck.
James Faucette: Great. Thank you very much. You may have missed it, but Niclas, thank you very much for all your contribution. Good luck.
James Faucette: Great. Thank you very much. You may have missed it, but Niclas, thank you very much for all your contribution. Good luck.
Speaker #1: Thank you.
Niclas Neglén: Thank you.
Niclas Neglén: Thank you.
Speaker #5: He will continue being with us for more earnings calls, so that's friendly of you to say that, but there will be more opportunities.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: He will continue being with us for more earnings calls.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: He will continue being with us for more earnings calls.
Niclas Neglén: You will hear from me.
Niclas Neglén: You will hear from me.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: It is friendly of you to say that, but there will be more opportunities.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: It is friendly of you to say that, but there will be more opportunities.
Speaker #7: Thanks, guys.
James Faucette: Thanks, guys.
James Faucette: Thanks, guys.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from Brian Keene from Citigroup. Please go ahead.
David Sandström: Your next question comes from Bryan Keane from Citigroup. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from Bryan Keane from Citigroup. Please go ahead.
Speaker #8: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking the question. I guess, just to go back—making sure I have the numbers—to quantify the Germany impact, how much is that hitting the numbers versus the ramp of JPMorgan and some of the other PSP relationships?
Bryan Keane: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking the question. I guess just to go back, making sure I have the numbers just to quantify the Germany impact. How much is that hitting the numbers versus the ramp of JPMorgan and some of the other PSP relationships? I would have thought that would have offset the weakness in Germany. Just trying to run us through maybe Germany versus some of the onboarding of some of those larger contracts and how they hit the volume in particular would be helpful. Thanks.
Bryan Keane: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking the question. I guess just to go back, making sure I have the numbers just to quantify the Germany impact. How much is that hitting the numbers versus the ramp of JPMorgan and some of the other PSP relationships? I would have thought that would have offset the weakness in Germany. Just trying to run us through maybe Germany versus some of the onboarding of some of those larger contracts and how they hit the volume in particular would be helpful. Thanks.
Speaker #8: I would have thought that would have offset the weakness in Germany. Just trying to run us through maybe Germany versus some of the onboarding of some of those larger contracts, and how they hit the volume in particular, would be helpful.
Speaker #8: Thanks.
Speaker #1: Yeah. Look, I mean, fundamentally, we're coming from lapping a very strong second half of growth last year with regards to fair financing, and we continue to see that growth.
Niclas Neglén: Yeah, look, fundamentally, we are coming from lapping a very strong H2 of growth last year with regards to Fair Financing, and we continue to see that growth. If you look to the US, we are growing extremely strongly. Fair Financing, for example, grew 114%. I think to the comments we made earlier, we have a very strong pipeline in the US today and a lot of things that we are going to be ramping into the H2 of this year. So I think there is a lot of opportunity there. Again, we fundamentally focus on the trend base here when we look at these guidances.
Niclas Neglén: Yeah, look, fundamentally, we are coming from lapping a very strong H2 of growth last year with regards to Fair Financing, and we continue to see that growth. If you look to the US, we are growing extremely strongly. Fair Financing, for example, grew 114%. I think to the comments we made earlier, we have a very strong pipeline in the US today and a lot of things that we are going to be ramping into the H2 of this year. So I think there is a lot of opportunity there. Again, we fundamentally focus on the trend base here when we look at these guidances.
Speaker #1: If you look to the US, we are growing extremely strongly. Fair Finance, for example, grew 114%. And I think, to the comments we made earlier, we have a very, very strong pipeline in the US today.
Speaker #1: And there are a lot of things that we're going to be ramping up in the second half of this year, so I think there's a lot of opportunity there.
Speaker #1: Again, we've fundamentally focused on the trend base here when we look at these guidances. And so, the German softness in consumer sentiment that we're seeing and the discretionary spending trends are really playing out through that, without an assumption that we are going to be overshooting or overperforming on some of the great pipeline that we have.
Niclas Neglén: The German softness in consumer sentiment that we are seeing in the discretionary spending trends are really playing out through that without an assumption that we are going to be overshooting on the, or overperforming on some of the great pipeline that we have. So our focus is very much on execution in the H2 around a lot of the things that Sebastian earlier said.
Niclas Neglén: The German softness in consumer sentiment that we are seeing in the discretionary spending trends are really playing out through that without an assumption that we are going to be overshooting on the, or overperforming on some of the great pipeline that we have. So our focus is very much on execution in the H2 around a lot of the things that Sebastian earlier said.
Speaker #1: So, our focus is very much on execution in the second half, around a lot of the things that Sebastian earlier said.
Speaker #8: Got it. And just in particular, Germany is going to grow negative, or at least in the model. How do you model out the German business?
Bryan Keane: Got it. Just in particular, Germany is going to grow negative, or at least in the model. How do you model it out, the German business?
Bryan Keane: Got it. Just in particular, Germany is going to grow negative, or at least in the model. How do you model it out, the German business?
Speaker #1: Yeah. So again, versus expectations, Germany is going to be a bit softer. And what we expect is that what we saw in the first half of this quarter is going to kind of continue to trend.
Niclas Neglén: Yeah. So again, versus expectations, Germany is going to be a bit softer. What we expect is that what we saw in the H1 of this quarter is going to kind of continue to trend. So on that baseline, we are expecting very marginal increases in Germany overall. Remember that we are coming.
Niclas Neglén: Yeah. So again, versus expectations, Germany is going to be a bit softer. What we expect is that what we saw in the H1 of this quarter is going to kind of continue to trend. So on that baseline, we are expecting very marginal increases in Germany overall. Remember that we are coming.
Speaker #1: So on that baseline, we're expecting very marginal increases in Germany overall. And remember that we're coming—
Speaker #8: Thank you. Thanks so much.
Bryan Keane: Thank you. Thanks so much.
Bryan Keane: Thank you. Thanks so much.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from Connor Allen from JP Morgan. Please go ahead.
David Sandström: Your next question comes from Connor Allen from JPMorgan. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from Connor Allen from JPMorgan. Please go ahead.
Speaker #8: Hi, thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask about Apple, if you don't mind—the Apple Upgrade Program. I realize there's only so much you can probably say about a specific partnership, but maybe you could help us understand if there's anything assumed in guidance for the second half around that program, and any other details you might be able to provide about that partnership.
Connor Allen: Hi. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask about Apple, if you do not mind, the Apple Upgrade program. I realize there is only so much you can probably say about a specific partnership, but maybe you could help us understand if there is anything assumed in guidance for the H2 around that program and any other details you might be able to provide about that partnership. It would be great to hear. Thanks.
Connor Allen: Hi. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask about Apple, if you do not mind, the Apple Upgrade program. I realize there is only so much you can probably say about a specific partnership, but maybe you could help us understand if there is anything assumed in guidance for the H2 around that program and any other details you might be able to provide about that partnership. It would be great to hear. Thanks.
Speaker #8: It'd be great to hear. Thanks.
Speaker #1: Great. Well, we're very happy with the Apple upgrade program for obvious reasons, right? As we said earlier, in some of the statements we've made when we did the earnings release or the release of that partnership, we expect a positive AOI in 2026 and throughout the life of the program, right?
Niclas Neglén: Well, we are very happy with the Apple Upgrade program for obvious reasons, right? As we said earlier, in some of the statements we made when we did the earnings release or the release of that partnership, we expect a positive AOI in 2026 and through the life of the program. We see this very much as a multi-year, similar to what many of our other partners have had, where we start and we start ramping, which we will do this year. We continue to develop that over time. Like I said, we are very trend-focused here with regards to running a larger portfolio. That Apple partnership is a fantastic partnership and I think can be very accretive over time. We are focused now on the trend and what we have in the guide is where we are.
Niclas Neglén: Well, we are very happy with the Apple Upgrade program for obvious reasons, right? As we said earlier, in some of the statements we made when we did the earnings release or the release of that partnership, we expect a positive AOI in 2026 and through the life of the program. We see this very much as a multi-year, similar to what many of our other partners have had, where we start and we start ramping, which we will do this year. We continue to develop that over time. Like I said, we are very trend-focused here with regards to running a larger portfolio. That Apple partnership is a fantastic partnership and I think can be very accretive over time. We are focused now on the trend and what we have in the guide is where we are.
Speaker #1: We see this very much as a multi-year effort, similar to what many of our other partners have, where we start and we start ramping—which we will do this year.
Speaker #1: And then we continue to develop that over time, right? So, like I said, we're very trend-focused here with regards to running a larger portfolio.
Speaker #1: That Apple partnership is a fantastic partnership, and I think it can be very accretive over time. But we're focused now on the trend, and where we have in the guide is where we are.
Speaker #8: Thanks.
Connor Allen: Thanks.
Connor Allen: Thanks.
David Sandström: Your next question comes from Jason Kupferberg from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from Jason Kupferberg from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from Jason Kupferberg from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
Speaker #8: Hi, good morning. Can you hear me?
Jason Kupferberg: Hi. Good morning. Can you hear me?
Jason Kupferberg: Hi. Good morning. Can you hear me?
Speaker #1: Yes.
Niclas Neglén: Yes.
Niclas Neglén: Yes.
Speaker #8: Great, thank you for taking the question. So I just want to come back to the full-year GMV guide. I guess if we take the midpoint of Q3, it looks like you would have to grow GMV by almost 25% quarter-over-quarter in Q4 to get to the midpoint of the new full-year outlook.
Jason Kupferberg: Great. Thank you for taking the question. I just wanted to come back on the full year GMV guide. I guess if we take the midpoint of Q3, it looks like you have to grow GMV almost 25% quarter-over-quarter in Q4 to get to the midpoint of the new full year outlook. Hoping you can talk about the visibility there. Obviously, you have the favorable holiday season dynamics, but this would be a faster quarter-over-quarter growth rate than what we saw in last year's Q4, when you also had more tailwind from the initial Walmart ramp. I know you have PSP ramps, you have Apple, but really wanted to hone in on the visibility there, as we made the guidance adjustment today.
Jason Kupferberg: Great. Thank you for taking the question. I just wanted to come back on the full year GMV guide. I guess if we take the midpoint of Q3, it looks like you have to grow GMV almost 25% quarter-over-quarter in Q4 to get to the midpoint of the new full year outlook. Hoping you can talk about the visibility there. Obviously, you have the favorable holiday season dynamics, but this would be a faster quarter-over-quarter growth rate than what we saw in last year's Q4, when you also had more tailwind from the initial Walmart ramp. I know you have PSP ramps, you have Apple, but really wanted to hone in on the visibility there, as we made the guidance adjustment today.
Speaker #8: Hoping you can talk about the visibility there. Obviously, you've got the favorable holiday season dynamics, but this would be a faster quarter-over-quarter growth rate than what we saw in last year's Q4, when you also had more tailwind from the initial Walmart ramp.
Speaker #8: So I know you've got PSP ramps, you've got Apple, but I really wanted to hone in on the visibility there as we made the guidance adjustment today.
Speaker #1: Yeah, great, thanks. Good question. So, if you look at it in the second half, you're right—we're a seasonal business. We're very focused on growth.
Niclas Neglén: Yeah, great. Thanks. Good question. If you look at it in the H2, you are right. We are a seasonal business. We are very focused on growth. I think if you think about it from a perspective of where we are seeing a lot of that, the US is continuing to really chug along on all engines, right? We have very strong growth there. As you mentioned, we have a number of things in the pipeline, right? We are investing into not only the Apple Upgrade, but also the default partnerships. I would also mention the fact that, the Klarna Card, particularly in the US, but also particularly in the Nordics, where we have launched Fair Financing and the Klarna Card, we are seeing mid-teens growth in the Nordics, right?
Niclas Neglén: Yeah, great. Thanks. Good question. If you look at it in the H2, you are right. We are a seasonal business. We are very focused on growth. I think if you think about it from a perspective of where we are seeing a lot of that, the US is continuing to really chug along on all engines, right? We have very strong growth there. As you mentioned, we have a number of things in the pipeline, right? We are investing into not only the Apple Upgrade, but also the default partnerships. I would also mention the fact that, the Klarna Card, particularly in the US, but also particularly in the Nordics, where we have launched Fair Financing and the Klarna Card, we are seeing mid-teens growth in the Nordics, right?
Speaker #1: I think if you think about it from a perspective of where we're seeing a lot of that, the US is continuing to really, really chug along on all engines, right?
Speaker #1: So we have very strong growth there. As you mentioned, we have a number of pipelines as well—a number of things in the pipeline, right?
Speaker #1: We're investing not only in the Apple upgrade, but also in the default partnerships. I'd also mention the fact that the card, particularly in the US, but also in the Nordics, where we've launched fair financing and the card, we're seeing mid-teens growth in the Nordics, right?
Speaker #1: So there's a lot of really good things that are going on, and we haven't even started fully rolling out all of the features from the Nordics into the rest of Europe.
Niclas Neglén: There's a lot of really good things that are going on, and we haven't even started fully rolling out all of the features from the Nordics into the rest of Europe. I think there's a lot of things to speak for the Q4 that builds up to the guide.
Niclas Neglén: There's a lot of really good things that are going on, and we haven't even started fully rolling out all of the features from the Nordics into the rest of Europe. I think there's a lot of things to speak for the Q4 that builds up to the guide.
Speaker #1: So, I think there are a lot of things to speak to for the fourth quarter that build up to the guide.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from Andrew Bao from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
David Sandström: Your next question comes from Andrew Bao from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from Andrew Bao from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Hi, Andrew.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Hi, Andrew.
Niclas Neglén: Hi, Andrew.
Speaker #8: Hey, thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask about subscriber monetization opportunities. You had the 2 million subs in the quarter, revenues growing, triple digits again.
Andrew Bao: Hey, thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask about subscriber monetization opportunities. You had the 2 million subs in the quarter, revenues growing triple digits again, and we saw the expansion of subscriptions in Europe last week. Longer term, what percentage of revenue or transaction margin dollars do you believe can come from recurring subscriptions? Are there any guideposts investors can monitor to gauge that progress?
Andrew Bauch: Hey, thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask about subscriber monetization opportunities. You had the 2 million subs in the quarter, revenues growing triple digits again, and we saw the expansion of subscriptions in Europe last week. Longer term, what percentage of revenue or transaction margin dollars do you believe can come from recurring subscriptions? Are there any guideposts investors can monitor to gauge that progress?
Speaker #8: And we saw the expansion of subscriptions in Europe last week. Longer term, what percentage of revenue or transaction margin dollars do you believe can come from recurring subscriptions?
Speaker #8: And are there any guideposts investors can monitor to gauge that progress?
Speaker #1: I can start with the commercial aspect of the subscriptionship, which we are very excited about. As you highlighted, we have seen strong growth in it—600% growth year-on-year.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: I can start with the commercial aspect of the subscriptionship, which we are very excited about. We, as you highlighted, have seen strong growth in it, 600% growth year-on-year. We have reached 2 million subscribers. We also announced, as you highlighted about a week ago, some additional updates into the benefits and perks of the membership programs. This is combined with additional changes to the Klarna Card that has also grown, and we now have 6.6 million active cardholders, or 6.5, sorry. Those will obviously start merging into the same offering, which becomes the core of our financial partnership with the most engaged consumers. This is also part of how we drive up the RPAC metric that we have seen increased and reported on today. How big it can become, that is too early to tell.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: I can start with the commercial aspect of the subscriptionship, which we are very excited about. We, as you highlighted, have seen strong growth in it, 600% growth year-on-year. We have reached 2 million subscribers. We also announced, as you highlighted about a week ago, some additional updates into the benefits and perks of the membership programs. This is combined with additional changes to the Klarna Card that has also grown, and we now have 6.6 million active cardholders, or 6.5, sorry. Those will obviously start merging into the same offering, which becomes the core of our financial partnership with the most engaged consumers. This is also part of how we drive up the RPAC metric that we have seen increased and reported on today. How big it can become, that is too early to tell.
Speaker #1: We've reached 2 million subscribers. We also announced, as you highlighted about a week ago, some additional updates to the benefits and perks of the membership programs.
Speaker #1: And this is combined with additional changes to the card that has also grown, and we now have 6.6 million active cardholders—or 6.5, sorry.
Speaker #1: That and those will obviously start merging into the same offering, which becomes the core of our financial partnership with the most engaged consumers. This is also part of how we drive up the revenue per customer metric that we've seen increase and reported on today.
Speaker #1: Now, how big it can become, that is too early to tell. But we have looked at peers offering similar products, where subscription is a significantly larger share of their revenue than it is with Klarna.
Niclas Neglén: We have looked at peers offering similar products where subscription is a significant larger share of their revenue than it is with Klarna. So we believe there is more potential to grow it. For the exact financial targets, Niclas, I will hand over to you. Well, we will not be guiding you to a particular long-term view. I think it is going to be a significant portion over time. Ultimately, it is going to help us do what we are doing today. Today, in Q2, you can see that we are basically earning more TMD for every dollar volume that comes in. Reality is that these membership programs will allow us to accelerate the TMD continuously without having to add on more and more transactions, right?
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: We have looked at peers offering similar products where subscription is a significant larger share of their revenue than it is with Klarna. So we believe there is more potential to grow it. For the exact financial targets, Niclas, I will hand over to you.
Speaker #1: So, we believe there's more potential to grow it. For the exact financial targets, Niclas, I'll hand over to you.
Speaker #8: Yeah. Well, we won't be guiding you to a particular long-term view. Let's say I think it's going to be a significant portion over time.
Niclas Neglén: Well, we will not be guiding you to a particular long-term view. I think it is going to be a significant portion over time. Ultimately, it is going to help us do what we are doing today. Today, in Q2, you can see that we are basically earning more TMD for every dollar volume that comes in. Reality is that these membership programs will allow us to accelerate the TMD continuously without having to add on more and more transactions, right?
Speaker #8: And ultimately, it's going to help us do what we're doing today. Today, in the second quarter, you can see that we are basically earning more TMD for every dollar of volume that comes in.
Speaker #8: And the reality is that these membership programs will allow us to accelerate the TMD continuously, without having to add on more and more transactions, right?
Speaker #8: Because it really means that the consumer will be with us, and we can build a deeper relationship with them as an everyday spending partner.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Because it really means that the consumer will be with us, and we can build a deeper relationship with them as an everyday spending partner with them. As such, over time, we see this as something that is going to be significant for us, and it is a key pillar of the strategy from a monetization of giving value back to the consumer.
Niclas Neglén: Because it really means that the consumer will be with us, and we can build a deeper relationship with them as an everyday spending partner with them. As such, over time, we see this as something that is going to be significant for us, and it is a key pillar of the strategy from a monetization of giving value back to the consumer.
Speaker #8: So, as such, over time, we see this as something that's going to be significant for us. And it's a key pillar of the strategy from a monetization standpoint of giving value back to the consumer.
Speaker #8: Great. Thank you, Nichlas.
Andrew Bao: Great. Thank you, Niclas.
Andrew Bauch: Great. Thank you, Niclas.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from Matthew O'Neill from Bank of America. Please go ahead.
David Sandström: Your next question comes from Matthew O'Neill from Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from Matthew O'Neill from Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Hi, Matthew.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Hi, Matthew.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Hi, Matthew.
Speaker #8: Yeah, hi. Thanks so much. And congrats again, Niclas. I was hoping I could follow up on the Apple Upgrade Program, particularly the accounting. We've had a number of questions around precisely how the devices will sort of impact, I guess, the financial statements.
Matthew O'Neill: Yeah, hi. Thanks so much, and congrats again, Niclas. I have something I could follow up on the Apple Upgrade program, particularly the accounting. We have had a number of questions around precisely how the devices will impact I guess the financial statements. Could you just give us an idea about if the leases will be originated on balance sheet, held at amortized cost, or will they follow the new forward flow treatment? On the back end of the term, who will effectively hold the residual value risk on Apple, et cetera? If you could just help us understand a little bit more about how this should impact things as it grows into the book. Thanks so much.
Matthew O'Neill: Yeah, hi. Thanks so much, and congrats again, Niclas. I have something I could follow up on the Apple Upgrade program, particularly the accounting. We have had a number of questions around precisely how the devices will impact I guess the financial statements. Could you just give us an idea about if the leases will be originated on balance sheet, held at amortized cost, or will they follow the new forward flow treatment? On the back end of the term, who will effectively hold the residual value risk on Apple, et cetera? If you could just help us understand a little bit more about how this should impact things as it grows into the book. Thanks so much.
Speaker #8: So, can you just give us an idea about whether the leases will be originated on balance sheet and held at amortized cost, or if they will follow the new forward flow treatment?
Speaker #8: And then, on the back end of the term, who will effectively hold the residual value risk on the Apple, et cetera? If you could just help us understand a little bit more about how this should impact things as it grows into the book.
Speaker #8: Thanks so much.
Speaker #1: Great. Sure. So, in very simple terms, this is really treated as a financing receivable for us, right? And that is practically what it is.
Niclas Neglén: Great. Sure. In very simple terms, this is really treated as a financing and receivable for us, right? That is practically what it is. It is no different to how we treat the Fair Financing point of sale installment product that we have today from a perspective of accounting. We will fair value the asset when we bring it on our book. We have the optionality to offload it, and we will look at those things opportunistically based on the economics of it. That is really the extent of what I can talk about from a commercial agreement. Ultimately, the receivable is a financing receivable.
Niclas Neglén: Great. Sure. In very simple terms, this is really treated as a financing and receivable for us, right? That is practically what it is. It is no different to how we treat the Fair Financing point of sale installment product that we have today from a perspective of accounting. We will fair value the asset when we bring it on our book. We have the optionality to offload it, and we will look at those things opportunistically based on the economics of it. That is really the extent of what I can talk about from a commercial agreement. Ultimately, the receivable is a financing receivable.
Speaker #1: So it's no different to how we treat the fair financing point-of-sale installment product that we have today from a perspective of accounting.
Speaker #1: We will fair value the asset when we bring it on our books. We have the optionality to offload it, and we will look at those things opportunistically based on the economics of it.
Speaker #1: And that's really the extent of what I can talk about from a commercial agreement. But ultimately, the receivable is a financing receivable.
Speaker #8: Okay, understood. And I guess we'll sort of wait to understand more as it comes, but with respect to the residual value...
Matthew O'Neill: Okay, understood. I guess we'll sort of wait to understand more as it comes, but with respect to the residual value.
Matthew O'Neill: Okay, understood. I guess we'll sort of wait to understand more as it comes, but with respect to the residual value.
Speaker #1: Yeah, again, as I said, if it's a financing receivable, I carry the receivable of the loan on my book.
Niclas Neglén: Yeah. Again, as I said, if it's a financing receivable, I carry the receivable of the loan on my book. Yeah.
Niclas Neglén: Yeah. Again, as I said, if it's a financing receivable, I carry the receivable of the loan on my book. Yeah.
Speaker #8: Okay, perfect. Thank you so much. I'll jump back in.
Matthew O'Neill: Okay, perfect. Thank you so much. I'll jump back in.
Matthew O'Neill: Okay, perfect. Thank you so much. I'll jump back in.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from Harry Bartlett from Rothschild & Co. at Redbird. Please go ahead.
David Sandström: Your next question comes from Harry Bartlett from Rothschild & Co Redburn. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from Harry Bartlett from Rothschild & Co Redburn. Please go ahead.
Speaker #8: Hi, guys. Thanks for the question. I just wanted to touch on the competitive environment, and maybe you could give us some color on what you're seeing in Europe and the US.
Harry Bartlett: Hi, guys. Thanks for the question. I just wanted to touch on the competitive environment. Maybe you could just give us some color on what you are seeing in Europe and the US and maybe just in the German market. Do you think there is any intensification of competition there that is maybe causing any of the weakness, or is it just purely macro? Thank you.
Harry Bartlett: Hi, guys. Thanks for the question. I just wanted to touch on the competitive environment. Maybe you could just give us some color on what you are seeing in Europe and the US and maybe just in the German market. Do you think there is any intensification of competition there that is maybe causing any of the weakness, or is it just purely macro? Thank you.
Speaker #8: And maybe just in the German market, do you think there's any intensification of competition there that's maybe causing any of the weakness, or is it just purely macro?
Speaker #8: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you. I can take that question. This is partially why we also introduced and presented to you the three business areas, because I think, in order to answer general questions on the competitive environment, Klarna has the aspiration and ambition to offer products and services that are relevant for consumers and all of our consumer spend, right?
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Thank you. I can take that question. This is partly why we also introduced and presented to you the 3 business areas, because I think in order to answer general questions on the competitive environment, Klarna has the aspiration and ambition to offer products and services that are relevant for consumers and all of our consumer spend, right? Whether it comes from everyday spend, debit type of purchases, or it is the short-term buy now, pay later, or the big-ticket items. When we established ourselves in the US, we were particularly focused on first establishing ourselves within the buy now, pay later lifestyle spend segment, sorry, area because it gives us a unique opportunity to grow relationship with now over 30 million users, while at the same point in time issuing very small credit, where the average credit is $100.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Thank you. I can take that question. This is partly why we also introduced and presented to you the 3 business areas, because I think in order to answer general questions on the competitive environment, Klarna has the aspiration and ambition to offer products and services that are relevant for consumers and all of our consumer spend, right? Whether it comes from everyday spend, debit type of purchases, or it is the short-term buy now, pay later, or the big-ticket items. When we established ourselves in the US, we were particularly focused on first establishing ourselves within the buy now, pay later lifestyle spend segment, sorry, area because it gives us a unique opportunity to grow relationship with now over 30 million users, while at the same point in time issuing very small credit, where the average credit is $100.
Speaker #1: Whether it comes from everyday spend, debit type of purchases, or it's the short-term buy now pay later, or the big ticket items. What we when we established ourselves in the US, we were particularly focused on first establishing us within the buy now pay later lifestyle spend segment sorry, area.
Speaker #1: Because it gives us a unique opportunity to grow relationships with now over 30 million users, while at the same point in time issuing very small credits, where the average credit is $100.
Speaker #1: And then, as we have established that relationship with those consumers and see their credit history, that's when we have more recently expanded into the big-ticket spend.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: As we have established that relationship with those consumers and see their credit history, that is when we have more recently expanded into the big-ticket spend. There we are, partially as we have described on earlier earnings calls, it was almost a surprise to us how well received that product was by merchants and the adoption rate and interest from merchants. So we have seen a strong scale in that. As you know, it is this quarter growing 84%, where US is contributing a lot to that. So I think from a competitor perspective, I would argue that when it comes to lifestyle spend, the traditional buy now, pay later or paying 4, mostly known in the US, we are clearly dominant and the largest player in that market in the US and seeing healthy growth in that segment.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: As we have established that relationship with those consumers and see their credit history, that is when we have more recently expanded into the big-ticket spend. There we are, partially as we have described on earlier earnings calls, it was almost a surprise to us how well received that product was by merchants and the adoption rate and interest from merchants. So we have seen a strong scale in that. As you know, it is this quarter growing 84%, where US is contributing a lot to that. So I think from a competitor perspective, I would argue that when it comes to lifestyle spend, the traditional buy now, pay later or paying 4, mostly known in the US, we are clearly dominant and the largest player in that market in the US and seeing healthy growth in that segment.
Speaker #1: And there we are, partially as we've described on earlier earnings calls. It was almost a surprise to us how well received our product was by merchants, and the adoption rate and interest from merchants.
Speaker #1: So we've seen strong growth there. And as you know, this quarter it's growing 84%, with the US contributing a lot to that.
Speaker #1: So I think from a competitive perspective, I would argue that when it comes to lifestyle spend, the traditional buy now, pay later—or Pay in 4—mostly known in the US, we are clearly dominant and the largest player in that market in the US, and seeing healthy growth in that segment.
Speaker #1: In big ticket spend, we are more—we have—we are newer in that, but have seen fantastic adoption rate. And we previously announced Walmart; now we're announcing Apple.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: In big-ticket spend, we are more newer in that but have seen fantastic adoption rate. We previously announced Walmart, now we are announcing Apple. So we are seeing lots of great progress there. When it comes to the European competitive space, I would argue that Klarna, thanks to its global presence and the fact that we are active in so many markets, is actually creating a significant competitive advantage because any local player or anyone that is in any of those markets, both we have the distribution of our partnerships, our PSPs, as previously like we announced here, JPMorgan Chase or Stripe and others before that. We have obviously the brand awareness and the consumer awareness with millions and millions of users in those markets. So there is no real change in that regards.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: In big-ticket spend, we are more newer in that but have seen fantastic adoption rate. We previously announced Walmart, now we are announcing Apple. So we are seeing lots of great progress there. When it comes to the European competitive space, I would argue that Klarna, thanks to its global presence and the fact that we are active in so many markets, is actually creating a significant competitive advantage because any local player or anyone that is in any of those markets, both we have the distribution of our partnerships, our PSPs, as previously like we announced here, JPMorgan Chase or Stripe and others before that. We have obviously the brand awareness and the consumer awareness with millions and millions of users in those markets. So there is no real change in that regards.
Speaker #1: So we're seeing lots of great progress there. When it comes to the European competitive space, I would argue that Klarna, thanks to its global presence and the fact that we're active in so many markets, is actually creating a significant competitive advantage because any local player or anyone that is in any of those markets both we have the distribution of our partnerships, our PSPs, as previously like we announced here, JPMorgan Chase or Stripe and others before that.
Speaker #1: And we have, obviously, the brand awareness and the consumer awareness with millions and millions of users in those markets, so there's no real change in that regard.
Speaker #1: Rather, the what we have said here about Germany is that it is a is that we are seeing a softer than expected consumer sentiment in that market.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Rather, what we have said here about Germany is that we are seeing a softer than expected consumer sentiment in that market. Yep.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Rather, what we have said here about Germany is that we are seeing a softer than expected consumer sentiment in that market. Yep.
Speaker #1: Yep.
Speaker #8: Got it. Very helpful. Thank you.
Harry Bartlett: Got it. Very helpful. Thank you.
Harry Bartlett: Got it. Very helpful. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from Kyle Peterson from Needham. Please go ahead.
David Sandström: Your next question comes from Kyle Peterson from Needham. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from Kyle Peterson from Needham. Please go ahead.
Speaker #8: Hi, thank you for taking the question. I just wanted to touch on the guide a little bit, and I appreciate all the color you guys gave.
Kyle Peterson: Hi. Thank you for taking the question. I just wanted to touch on the guide a little bit. I appreciate all the color you guys gave on Germany in particular and the trends you guys are seeing there. I guess my question would be, have you guys seen any volume curtailments in any other European or surrounding countries either in Q2, and I guess what does the guidance assume in terms of transaction trends in some of these other European markets that are kind of surrounding Germany?
Kyle Peterson: Hi. Thank you for taking the question. I just wanted to touch on the guide a little bit. I appreciate all the color you guys gave on Germany in particular and the trends you guys are seeing there. I guess my question would be, have you guys seen any volume curtailments in any other European or surrounding countries either in Q2, and I guess what does the guidance assume in terms of transaction trends in some of these other European markets that are kind of surrounding Germany?
Speaker #8: On Germany in particular, and the trends you guys are seeing there—so I guess my question would be, have you guys seen any volume curtailments in any other European or surrounding countries, either in the second quarter?
Speaker #8: And I guess, what is the guidance assumed in terms of transaction trends in some of these other European markets that are kind of surrounding Germany?
Speaker #1: Hi. Thank you. So, generally speaking, Germany is the more pronounced. We have seen some softness here and there in pockets, but we run in 26 markets.
Niclas Neglén: Hi. Thank you. Generally speaking, Germany is more pronounced. We have seen some softness here and there in pockets, but we run in 26 markets, and I note that it is a varied picture, right? If you take the Nordics as an example, I mentioned before, we are getting double teen growth rate as we have expanded the Fair Financing and the Klarna Card rollout there, and that is off a back of a market where we have been for a very long time and have a lot of share wallet already. I think, generally speaking, there is good growth in Southern Europe. There is a little bit of certain countries that might be growing a little bit slower than what we had expected. Ultimately, the larger point is here, Germany, and why we are calling it out. From a consumer sentiment perspective, we are seeing that discretionary spend adjust.
Niclas Neglén: Hi. Thank you. Generally speaking, Germany is more pronounced. We have seen some softness here and there in pockets, but we run in 26 markets, and I note that it is a varied picture, right? If you take the Nordics as an example, I mentioned before, we are getting double teen growth rate as we have expanded the Fair Financing and the Klarna Card rollout there, and that is off a back of a market where we have been for a very long time and have a lot of share wallet already. I think, generally speaking, there is good growth in Southern Europe. There is a little bit of certain countries that might be growing a little bit slower than what we had expected. Ultimately, the larger point is here, Germany, and why we are calling it out. From a consumer sentiment perspective, we are seeing that discretionary spend adjust.
Speaker #1: And I'd note that it is a varied picture, right? If you take the Nordics as an example, as I mentioned before, we're getting double-digit growth rates as we've expanded the fair financing and the card rollout there.
Speaker #1: And that's off the back of a market where we've been for a very long time and already have a lot of share of wallet. So I think, generally speaking, there's good growth in Southern Europe.
Speaker #1: There is a little bit of certain countries that might be growing a little bit slower than where we had expected. Ultimately, the larger point here is Germany, and why we're calling it out from a consumer sentiment perspective.
Speaker #1: We're seeing that discussion is spent adjust, but ultimately, very good growth where we're seeing us expanding to more products and features, and more partnerships.
Niclas Neglén: Ultimately, very good growth where we are seeing us expanding to more products and features and more partnerships.
Niclas Neglén: Ultimately, very good growth where we are seeing us expanding to more products and features and more partnerships.
Speaker #8: Got it. Thank you very much.
Kyle Peterson: Got it. Thank you very much.
Kyle Peterson: Got it. Thank you very much.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from Thomas Nielsen from Nordea. Please go ahead.
David Sandström: Your next question comes from Thomas Nielsen from Nordea. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from Thomas Nielsen from Nordea. Please go ahead.
Speaker #8: Thanks for taking my question. Q2 showed significant operating leverage, with transaction margin dollars growing 42%, against much slower cost growth. So looking ahead, if transaction margins can grow at 20% plus, when do you see Klarna being able to achieve a double-digit or mid-teens adjusted operating margin, and when in time?
Thomas Nielsen: Thanks for taking my question. Q2 showed significant operating leverage with transaction margin dollars growing 42% against much slower cost growth. Looking ahead, if transaction margin dollars can grow at 20%+, when do you see Klarna being able to achieve a double digit or mid-teens adjusted operating margin? When in time would you say?
Thomas Nilsson: Thanks for taking my question. Q2 showed significant operating leverage with transaction margin dollars growing 42% against much slower cost growth. Looking ahead, if transaction margin dollars can grow at 20%+, when do you see Klarna being able to achieve a double digit or mid-teens adjusted operating margin? When in time would you say?
Speaker #8: Would you say?
Speaker #1: So if you look at it, you’re right—we’re growing really strongly. If you look at it overarchingly for the full year, we’re growing our adjusted, or our transaction margin dollars, at around about 32%.
Niclas Neglén: If you look at it, you are right. We are growing really strongly. If you look at it overarchingly for the full year, we are growing our transaction margin dollars at around 32%, and our adjusted OpEx by about 15%. We are seeing very strong growth in the US, as we see here, both on the volume side, the revenue side, but that is really translating into an accelerated growth in our transaction margin dollars as well. Transaction margin dollars as a percentage of revenue went from 14% to about 23%, and we are expecting to see growth in that through the quarters as well on a sequential basis. On that basis, we do not guide to a specific date, but I think we have the right traction in transaction margin dollars, the key metric that we are really focused on, both in the US but also in global ex-US.
Niclas Neglén: If you look at it, you are right. We are growing really strongly. If you look at it overarchingly for the full year, we are growing our transaction margin dollars at around 32%, and our adjusted OpEx by about 15%. We are seeing very strong growth in the US, as we see here, both on the volume side, the revenue side, but that is really translating into an accelerated growth in our transaction margin dollars as well. Transaction margin dollars as a percentage of revenue went from 14% to about 23%, and we are expecting to see growth in that through the quarters as well on a sequential basis. On that basis, we do not guide to a specific date, but I think we have the right traction in transaction margin dollars, the key metric that we are really focused on, both in the US but also in global ex-US.
Speaker #1: And our adjusted operating optics by about 15%. We're seeing very strong growth in the US, as we see here, both on the volume side and the revenue side, but that's really translating into accelerated growth in our transaction margin dollars as well.
Speaker #1: Transaction margin dollars as a percentage of revenue went from 14% to about 23%, and we're expecting to see growth in that through the quarters as well, on a sequential basis.
Speaker #1: On that basis, we don't guide to a specific date, but I think we have the right traction in transaction margin dollars. The key metric that we're really focused on—both in the US, but also globally ex-US, right?
Speaker #1: Particularly in Europe, where you're seeing an expansion in that transaction margin dollar over time. So, once you really look at a seasonal business that, on the whole, will fluctuate some quarters to quarters, but the overarching trend is moving in the direction that we have.
Niclas Neglén: Particularly in Europe, where you are seeing an expansion in that transaction margin dollar over time. One should really look at a seasonal business that, on the whole, will fluctuate some quarters to quarters, but the overarching trend is moving in the direction that we have, and we have a long-term target of a 50% transaction margin dollars and 25% adjusted operating income. We will continue to move towards that direction, but we will not put a particular quarter to it.
Niclas Neglén: Particularly in Europe, where you are seeing an expansion in that transaction margin dollar over time. One should really look at a seasonal business that, on the whole, will fluctuate some quarters to quarters, but the overarching trend is moving in the direction that we have, and we have a long-term target of a 50% transaction margin dollars and 25% adjusted operating income. We will continue to move towards that direction, but we will not put a particular quarter to it.
Speaker #1: And we have a long-term target of a 50% transaction margin dollars and 25% adjusted operating income. So we'll continue to move towards that direction, but we won't put a particular quarter to it.
Speaker #8: Okay. Thank you.
Thomas Nielsen: Okay. Thank you.
Thomas Nilsson: Okay. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from Moshi Orenbeck from TD Callan. Please go ahead.
David Sandström: Your next question comes from Moshe Orenbuch from TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from Moshe Orenbuch from TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
Speaker #8: Hi, great, thanks. I was hoping to talk just a little bit about fair financing. You mentioned the growth in merchants and whether that's going to continue.
Moshe Orenbuch: Hi, great. Thanks. I was hoping to talk just a little bit about Fair Financing. You mentioned the growth in merchants, and wondering whether that is going to continue, and is there interaction with respect to the card? I assume the card has a higher than average mix of Fair Financing. Could you talk about those two and its impact on the Fair Financing share of your total volume over time?
Moshe Orenbuch: Hi, great. Thanks. I was hoping to talk just a little bit about Fair Financing. You mentioned the growth in merchants, and wondering whether that is going to continue, and is there interaction with respect to the card? I assume the card has a higher than average mix of Fair Financing. Could you talk about those two and its impact on the Fair Financing share of your total volume over time?
Speaker #8: And is there an interaction with respect to the card? I assume the card has a higher than average kind of mix of Fair Financing. Could you talk about those two and its impact on the Fair Financing share of your total volume over time?
Speaker #1: Sure. I will start and hand over the second part to Nicholas. What we're seeing is that, as part of our global Klarna default distribution with our partnerships with PSPs, we make sure that every merchant that offers Klarna does not only offer one of our payment products, but all of them.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Sure. I will start and hand over the second part to Niclas. What we are seeing is that part of our global Klarna default distribution with our partnerships with PSPs is to make sure that every merchant that offers Klarna does not only offer one of our payment products, but all of them. This has been a major focus of ours, which is partially what has driven the growth of number of merchants accepting. You can still see that out of the over 1 million merchants that accept Klarna, we are now at about 250,000 offering Fair Financing. So there is still additional potential there to grow to make sure all of them offer all payment products, but obviously they may also, some of them, be in categories where there will be less spend in the size of $500 and above.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: Sure. I will start and hand over the second part to Niclas. What we are seeing is that part of our global Klarna default distribution with our partnerships with PSPs is to make sure that every merchant that offers Klarna does not only offer one of our payment products, but all of them. This has been a major focus of ours, which is partially what has driven the growth of number of merchants accepting. You can still see that out of the over 1 million merchants that accept Klarna, we are now at about 250,000 offering Fair Financing. So there is still additional potential there to grow to make sure all of them offer all payment products, but obviously they may also, some of them, be in categories where there will be less spend in the size of $500 and above.
Speaker #1: And this has been a major focus of ours, which is partially what has driven the growth in the number of merchants accepting. So you can see that out of the over one million merchants that accept Klarna, we are now at about 250,000 offering fair financing.
Speaker #1: So there's still additional potential there to grow, to make sure all of them offer all payment products. But obviously, there may also be some of them in categories where there will be less spend in the size of $500 and above.
Moshe Orenbuch: Right.
Moshe Orenbuch: Right.
Speaker #1: So that is basically how it's worked. Now, with the card, we think about the card as—like, people love using Klarna online. They have, however, not had the opportunity to fully use Klarna offline.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: That is basically how it works. With the card, we think about the card, like, people love using Klarna online. They have, however, not had the opportunity to fully use Klarna offline, and so the card, in a way, is just a vehicle to bring these debit, the Pay in full opportunity, as well as the big-ticket spend of Fair Financing products into the everyday purchases in the physical world. So basically, the same payment methods are available, but now through the utilization of a card in those stores, and this is the Klarna Card that we have launched and seen great growth with, which we are very excited about. The rest, I will hand over to you, Niclas.
Sebastian Siemiatkowski: That is basically how it works. With the card, we think about the card, like, people love using Klarna online. They have, however, not had the opportunity to fully use Klarna offline, and so the card, in a way, is just a vehicle to bring these debit, the Pay in full opportunity, as well as the big-ticket spend of Fair Financing products into the everyday purchases in the physical world. So basically, the same payment methods are available, but now through the utilization of a card in those stores, and this is the Klarna Card that we have launched and seen great growth with, which we are very excited about. The rest, I will hand over to you, Niclas.
Speaker #1: And so the card, in a way, is just a vehicle to bring these debit, the pay-in-four opportunity, as well as the big-ticket spend or fair financing products, into the everyday purchases in the physical world.
Speaker #1: And so basically the same payment methods are available, but now through the utilization of a card in those stores. And this is the Debit Flex Card that we've launched and seen great growth with, which we're very excited about.
Speaker #1: The rest, I will hand over to you, Niclas.
Speaker #2: Sure, thank you. Yes, I think just to add a little bit more color on the numbers there—it really depends on the maturity of the market right now, from what we're seeing.
Niclas Neglén: Sure. Thank you. Yes. I think just to add a little more color on the numbers there, it really depends on the maturity of the market right now, what we are seeing. So, in Sweden, where there is deep penetration and usage of Klarna, you are seeing very much more growth in the Pay in full pair of the product as people use it for everyday spending. What you are seeing in some of the less mature markets, but that is growing, is really that they act exactly like with the card as they do online and with the merchants. So you are seeing much more of an equal split. So the card is not changing as significantly the types of payments that we are making. But we are seeing that improving.
Niclas Neglén: Sure. Thank you. Yes. I think just to add a little more color on the numbers there, it really depends on the maturity of the market right now, what we are seeing. So, in Sweden, where there is deep penetration and usage of Klarna, you are seeing very much more growth in the Pay in full pair of the product as people use it for everyday spending. What you are seeing in some of the less mature markets, but that is growing, is really that they act exactly like with the card as they do online and with the merchants. So you are seeing much more of an equal split. So the card is not changing as significantly the types of payments that we are making. But we are seeing that improving.
Speaker #2: So in Sweden, where there is deep penetration and usage of Klarna, you're seeing much more growth in the pay-in-full part of the product as people use it for everyday spending, right?
Speaker #2: Where you're seeing it in some of the less mature markets, but what is also growing, is really that they act exactly the same with the card as they do online and with the merchants, right?
Speaker #2: So you're seeing much more of an equal split, so the card is not changing as significantly the types of payments that we're making. But we're seeing that improving, right?
Speaker #2: So you'll see, for example, the US paying full, albeit on a very large low base, is growing significantly faster now, which is this proof that the more we engage with consumers with this product, the more they're using more of the types of spending products that we can support them with.
Niclas Neglén: So you will see, for example, the US Pay in full, albeit on a very low base, is growing significantly faster now, which just is proof that as the more we engage with consumers with this product, the more they are using more of the types of spending products that we can support them with.
Niclas Neglén: So you will see, for example, the US Pay in full, albeit on a very low base, is growing significantly faster now, which just is proof that as the more we engage with consumers with this product, the more they are using more of the types of spending products that we can support them with.
Speaker #8: Great. Thank you.
Moshe Orenbuch: Great. Thank you.
Moshe Orenbuch: Great. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from Giuliano Bologna from Compass Point. Please go ahead.
David Sandström: Your next question comes from Giuliano Bologna from Compass Point. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from Giuliano Bologna from Compass Point. Please go ahead.
Giuliano Bologna: Good morning. Just checking up on the Apple partnership. I realize that you have already answered a handful of questions around that, but it seems like the type of program that has the potential to be relatively large over time and you have a little more duration on those assets. When you think about the funding strategy for that, do you think you would plan on continuing to focus on trying to offload a lot of those off balance sheet just because there is a lot of potential that could create a lot of balance sheet growth and capital consumption over time?
Giuliano Bologna: Good morning. Just checking up on the Apple partnership. I realize that you have already answered a handful of questions around that, but it seems like the type of program that has the potential to be relatively large over time and you have a little more duration on those assets. When you think about the funding strategy for that, do you think you would plan on continuing to focus on trying to offload a lot of those off balance sheet just because there is a lot of potential that could create a lot of balance sheet growth and capital consumption over time?
Speaker #8: Good morning. Just checking up on the Apple partnership. I realize that you've already answered a handful of questions around that, but it seems like the type of program that has the potential to be relatively large over time, and you have a little more duration on those assets.
Speaker #8: When you think about the funding strategy for that, do you think you would plan on continuing to focus on trying to offload a lot of those off-balance sheet, just because there's a lot of potential that could create a lot of balance sheet growth and capital consumption over time?
Speaker #1: So, look, we plan our capital for the long term, right? And we have the optionality of all the tools in our toolkit. We will offload if we think that the economics make sense.
Niclas Neglén: Look, we plan our capital for the long term, right? We have the optionalities of all the tools in our toolkit. We will offload if we think that the economics make sense with regards to the Apple leasing product, right? Ultimately, we look at this as a portfolio as a whole, and as such, we do not see it as one or the other, but rather we give ourselves the optionalities, and then we see what makes most sense in the market.
Niclas Neglén: Look, we plan our capital for the long term, right? We have the optionalities of all the tools in our toolkit. We will offload if we think that the economics make sense with regards to the Apple leasing product, right? Ultimately, we look at this as a portfolio as a whole, and as such, we do not see it as one or the other, but rather we give ourselves the optionalities, and then we see what makes most sense in the market.
Speaker #1: And with regards to the Apple leasing product, right? But ultimately, we look at this as a portfolio as a whole, and as such, we don't see it as one or the other, but rather we give ourselves the optionalities and then we see what makes most sense in the market.
Speaker #8: Yeah. That's helpful. And then maybe think about just the current balance sheet composition. I noticed there's been a takedown in your deposit funding. I'm curious if that's something that's intentional with the balance sheet composition and pulling down assets or is that something or is there a different trend or seasonality that's impacting that?
Giuliano Bologna: Yeah, that is helpful. Then maybe thinking about just the current balance sheet composition, I noticed there has been a takedown in your deposit funding. I am curious if that is something that is intentional with the balance sheet composition and pulling down assets, or is there a different trend or seasonality that is impacting that?
Giuliano Bologna: Yeah, that is helpful. Then maybe thinking about just the current balance sheet composition, I noticed there has been a takedown in your deposit funding. I am curious if that is something that is intentional with the balance sheet composition and pulling down assets, or is there a different trend or seasonality that is impacting that?
Speaker #1: So yes, it's going to be seasonality, right? Our savings deposits are basically what consumers come and bring with us. We will alternate our rates depending on the needs as well.
Niclas Neglén: Yes. It is going to be seasonality, right? Our savings deposits are basically what consumers come and bring with us. We will alternate our rate depending on the needs as well. You will always see a cycle in the H1 where you have a little bit slowdown in the growth of deposits, and then you see it accelerating towards the peak season. That is generally the modus operandi.
Niclas Neglén: Yes. It is going to be seasonality, right? Our savings deposits are basically what consumers come and bring with us. We will alternate our rate depending on the needs as well. You will always see a cycle in the H1 where you have a little bit slowdown in the growth of deposits, and then you see it accelerating towards the peak season. That is generally the modus operandi.
Speaker #1: And so you will always see a cycle in the first half where you have a little bit of slowdown in the growth of deposits, and then you see it accelerating towards the peak season.
Speaker #1: That's generally the modus operandi.
Speaker #8: That's very helpful. I appreciate the time, and I'll jump back in with you.
Giuliano Bologna: That is very helpful. I appreciate the time, and I will jump back in the queue.
Giuliano Bologna: That is very helpful. I appreciate the time, and I will jump back in the queue.
Speaker #1: Thank you.
Niclas Neglén: Thank you.
Niclas Neglén: Thank you.
Speaker #3: And your final question comes from Lamar Clark from Freedom Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
David Sandström: Your final question comes from Lemar Clarke from Freedom Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your final question comes from Lemar Clarke from Freedom Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Speaker #8: Hey guys, thanks for taking the question. On the guidance revision, you pointed to a more measured view of German volumes and flagged softening towards the back end of Q2.
Lemar Clarke: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. On the guidance revision, you pointed to a more measured view of German volumes and flags softening towards the back end of Q2. I wanted to press on the quarter-to-date picture. Can you characterize what you are seeing in Germany so far in Q3? Has the deceleration you saw exit in June stabilized, continued at that pace, or stepped on further in July and into August? Thank you.
Lemar Clarke: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. On the guidance revision, you pointed to a more measured view of German volumes and flags softening towards the back end of Q2. I wanted to press on the quarter-to-date picture. Can you characterize what you are seeing in Germany so far in Q3? Has the deceleration you saw exit in June stabilized, continued at that pace, or stepped on further in July and into August? Thank you.
Speaker #8: I wanted to press on the quarter-to-date picture. Can you characterize what you're seeing in Germany so far in Q3? Has the deceleration you saw exiting June stabilized?
Speaker #8: Continued at that pace or stepped on further in July and into August? Thank you.
Speaker #1: Sure. Generally speaking, we're seeing roughly the same kind of downward trend, right? Which is what we've included in the guide, correct? Hence why we are seeing this.
Niclas Neglén: Sure. Generally speaking, we are seeing roughly the same kind of downward trend, which is what we have included in the guide. Hence why we are seeing this. That is basically where we are at. The guide really reflects the actuals there. I think the key thing to remember in all of this here is obviously if you look at transactions and volume is one key driver for Klarna. But as we are expanding our feature set and as we are generating various ways to support our customers and both our consumers and partners, we are actually now starting to generate more and more transaction margin dollars on every dollar of volume. I think that is the key takeaway here, that depending on fluctuations on transactions is obviously something that we will always live with.
Niclas Neglén: Sure. Generally speaking, we are seeing roughly the same kind of downward trend, which is what we have included in the guide. Hence why we are seeing this. That is basically where we are at. The guide really reflects the actuals there. I think the key thing to remember in all of this here is obviously if you look at transactions and volume is one key driver for Klarna. But as we are expanding our feature set and as we are generating various ways to support our customers and both our consumers and partners, we are actually now starting to generate more and more transaction margin dollars on every dollar of volume. I think that is the key takeaway here, that depending on fluctuations on transactions is obviously something that we will always live with.
Speaker #1: So that's basically where we're at. So the guide really reflects the actual there. I think the key thing to remember in all of this here, right, is obviously if you look at if you look at a transactions and volume is one key driver for Klarna, right?
Speaker #1: But as we're expanding our feature set, and as we are generating various ways to support our customers—both our consumers and partners—we're actually now starting to generate more and more transaction margin dollars on every dollar of volume, right?
Speaker #1: And I think that's the key takeaway here: that depending on fluctuations in transactions is obviously something that we will always live with. But the fact is that we're starting to monetize our consumers on a deeper basis, with deeper engagement.
Niclas Neglén: But the fact is that we are starting to monetize our consumers on a deeper basis and with a deeper engagement, and that is really what the Q2 shows.
Niclas Neglén: But the fact is that we are starting to monetize our consumers on a deeper basis and with a deeper engagement, and that is really what the Q2 shows.
Speaker #1: And that's really what the second quarter shows.
Speaker #3: Thank you. That was our final question for today. Thank you all for joining Klarna's second quarter 2026 earnings call. This concludes today's presentation. You may now log off and we hope you have a wonderful rest of your day.
David Sandström: Thank you. That was our final question for today. Thank you all for joining Klarna's Q2 2026 earnings call. This concludes today's presentation. You may now log off, and we hope you have a wonderful rest of your day.
Operator: Thank you. That was our final question for today. Thank you all for joining Klarna's Q2 2026 earnings call. This concludes today's presentation. You may now log off, and we hope you have a wonderful rest of your day.
