Q2 2026 Everus Construction Group Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #1: External call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press *1 to raise your hand.
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Speaker #2: Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Everus Construction Group's second quarter 2026 results conference call. Leading the call today are CEO Jeff Thied and CFO Max Marcy.
Speaker #2: We issued a news release yesterday detailing our second quarter 2026 operational and financial results. This release and the accompanying presentation materials are available on our website at investors.everus.com.
Speaker #2: I would like to remind you that management's commentary and responses to questions on today's conference call may include forward-looking statements. Which, by their nature, are uncertain and outside of the company's control.
Speaker #2: Although these forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and beliefs, actual results could differ materially. For a discussion of some of the factors that could cause actual results to differ, please refer to the risk factor section of our latest filings with the SEC.
Speaker #2: Additionally, please note that you can find reconciliations of historical non-GAAP financial measures in the news release issued yesterday and in the appendix of today's presentation.
Speaker #2: Today's call will begin with prepared remarks from Jeff, who will provide a review of our recent business performance, and an update on the progress against our strategic priorities.
Speaker #2: Followed by Max, who will provide a more detailed financial update before wrapping up with our guidance. At the conclusion of these prepared remarks, we will open the line for your questions.
Speaker #2: And with that, I'll turn the call over to Jeff.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Paul. And good morning to everyone joining us today. Our positive momentum continued during the second quarter, as sustained market demand and strong project execution resulted in another quarter of record revenues meaningful margin expansion and robust backlog growth.
Speaker #3: We also made important progress against our key strategic priorities during the quarter, in April we announced the acquisition of SENM Constructors and the integration is progressing as planned.
Speaker #3: We followed this transaction up with the announcement this past Friday that we expect to acquire Epsilon Industries a leading provider of offsite modular construction solutions.
Speaker #3: We are very excited about the transaction, which we expect will provide meaningful expansion of our offsite construction capabilities. I will give more details on the transaction later in my comments.
Speaker #3: Our robust organic growth and strong project execution directly reflect the diligent efforts of our talented team across the company and our unwavering focus on our strategic priorities.
Speaker #3: Our people are what drive our business, and I am extremely proud and grateful for their hard work and dedication. Turning to our quarterly highlights, beginning with slide 4, we delivered record second quarter revenues of $1.23 billion up 34% from the prior year, with growth across both our E&M and T&D segments, and a contribution from SENM.
Speaker #3: Once again, our strong top-line performance was complemented by another quarter of excellent execution. As a result, record second quarter EBITDA increased 53% from the prior year period, and our EBITDA margin was up 130 basis points.
Speaker #1: Execution directly reflect the diligent efforts of our talented team across the company and our unwavering focus on our strategic priorities. Our people are what drive our business, and I am extremely proud and grateful for their hard work and dedication.
Speaker #3: Our team's ability to deliver this level of strong project execution reflects their diligent use of our operational playbook. We are extremely proud of our track record of successful execution, and will not get complacent.
Speaker #1: Turning to our quarterly highlights, beginning with slide 4: we delivered record second-quarter revenues of $1.23 billion—up 34% from the prior year—with growth across both our E&M and T&D segments, and a contribution from SE&M.
Speaker #3: We remain focused on executing jobs safely, on time, and on budget. Our backlog at the end of the second quarter was $4.55 billion, up 53% from the same period last year, driven by continued strength in E&M.
Speaker #1: Once again, our strong top-line performance was complemented by another quarter of excellent execution. As a result, record second-quarter EBITDA increased 53% from the prior year period, and our EBITDA margin was up 130 basis points.
Speaker #3: The favorable demand trends are broad-based, and we continue to benefit from positive momentum across diverse markets, with growth in nearly all sub-markets sequentially. Demand for our services remains strong, as evidenced by our recent bookings.
Speaker #1: Our team's ability to deliver this level of strong project execution reflects their diligent use of our operational playbook. We are extremely proud of our track record of successful execution, and will not get complacent.
Speaker #3: We always stay close to our customers, monitor market trends, and track project activity. We have not experienced any project cancellations or notable changes in activity with our customers or projects.
Speaker #1: We remain focused on executing jobs safely, on time, and on budget. Our backlog at the end of the second quarter was $4.55 billion, up 53% from the same period last year, driven by continued strength in E&M.
Speaker #3: We remain encouraged by what we are seeing in our markets and remain confident in the growth outlook. The potential for change in any end market is why we remain committed to our diversified growth strategy.
Speaker #1: The favorable demand trends are broad-based, and we continue to benefit from positive momentum across diverse markets, with growth in nearly all sub-markets sequentially. Demand for our services remains strong as evidenced by our recent bookings.
Speaker #3: Demand trends vary, and we diligently position ourselves to take advantage of changing market dynamics. Ten years ago, it might have been healthcare. That was a key growth driver.
Speaker #3: Five years ago, it was hospitality. And now it is data centers and other markets like semiconductor. Our focus is on making sure we have the people, capabilities, and geographic exposure to take advantage of each phase of growth.
Speaker #1: We always stay close to our trends, and track project activity. We have not experienced any project cancellations or notable changes in activity with our customers or projects.
Speaker #3: Our recent expansion into a new geography and the announced acquisitions of SENM and Epsilon are evidence of this strategy. We will continue to evaluate new geographies and strategic acquisitions that advance our growth strategy and keep us positioned to achieve our long-term financial targets.
Speaker #1: We remain encouraged by what we are seeing in our markets and remain confident in the growth outlook. The potential for change in any end market is why we remain committed to our diversified growth strategy: demand trends vary, and we diligently position ourselves to take advantage of changing market dynamics.
Speaker #1: Ten years ago, it might have been healthcare—that was a key growth driver. Five years ago, it was hospitality. And now, it is data centers and other markets like semiconductor.
Speaker #3: Now I'd like to shift gears and highlight our recent progress on our key strategic initiatives. As a reminder, our value creation framework is based on targeted growth, operational excellence, and disciplined capital allocation.
Speaker #1: Our focus is on making sure we have the people, capabilities, and geographic exposure to take advantage of each phase of growth. Our recent expansion into a new geography and the announced acquisitions of SE&M and Epsilon are evidence of this strategy.
Speaker #3: In terms of growth, we continue to benefit from strong end market trends, notably in the commercial and industrial markets. As I already discussed, we continue to see strong momentum across our markets.
Speaker #3: Our data center work tends to be focused on several hyperscale customers. We continue to be very involved in long-term planning with these customers and demand remains strong.
Speaker #1: We will continue to evaluate new geographies and strategic acquisitions that advance our growth strategy and keep us positioned to achieve our long-term financial targets.
Speaker #1: Now I'd like to shift gears and highlight our recent progress on our key strategic initiatives. As a reminder, our value creation framework is based on targeted growth, operational excellence, and disciplined capital allocation.
Speaker #3: The project in our new geography for a semiconductor customer continues to ramp as expected, and we remain encouraged by opportunities we are seeing in this market.
Speaker #3: We will continue to focus on our diversified approach to growth and believe we are very well positioned to benefit from a broad set of favorable market trends given our strong relationships, track record of execution, and our highly skilled workforce across the country.
Speaker #1: In terms of growth, we continue to benefit from strong end-market industrial markets. As I already discussed, we continue to see strong momentum across our markets.
Speaker #3: Now, turning to operational excellence. Our operating results continue to benefit from efficient project execution, including the advantages of our modular construction and prefabrication services.
Speaker #1: Our data center work tends to be focused on several hyperscaler customers. We continue to be very involved in long-term planning with these customers and demand remains strong.
Speaker #1: The project in our new geography for a semiconductor customer continues to ramp as expected, and we remain encouraged by opportunities we are seeing in this market.
Speaker #3: Offsite construction has long been an operational focus for our operating companies. Offsite construction and controlled shop environments support safer work conditions, helps us use labor and materials more efficiently, and creates more predictable project outcomes.
Speaker #1: We will continue to focus on our diversified approach to growth and believe we are very well positioned to benefit from a broad set of favorable market trends given our strong relationships, track record of execution, and our highly skilled workforce across the country.
Speaker #3: This more predictable project planning results in a strong customer relationships, which helps us grow our business. We have quarterly meetings with our modular and prefabrication teams during which we share best practices and explore ways to increase usage of offsite construction across the organization.
Speaker #1: Now, turning to operational excellence. Our operating results continue to benefit from efficient project execution, including the advantages of our modular construction and prefabrication services.
Speaker #3: The expected acquisition of Epsilon will further expand our capabilities. Epsilon has more than 25 years of experience in providing offsite construction solutions across North America.
Speaker #1: Offsite construction has long been an operational focus for our operating companies. Offsite construction and controlled shop environments support safer work conditions, helps us use labor and materials more efficiently, and creates more predictable project outcomes.
Speaker #3: They are recognized for their innovation, proprietary capabilities, and highly refined execution processes that provide consistent and efficient delivery of complex custom solutions. Epsilon offers a full range of services, including design assist custom fabrication and turnkey field installation that support diverse project types like data centers, advanced manufacturing, and healthcare.
Speaker #1: This more predictable project planning results in a strong customer relationships, which helps us grow our business. We have quarterly meetings with our modular and prefabrication teams during which we share best practices and explore ways to increase usage of offsite construction across the organization.
Speaker #3: Epsilon has multiple strategic facilities in the US and Canada, enabling nationwide distribution. In addition to integrating with our existing footprint, we expect that Epsilon's footprint will enhance growth in key geographic areas, including Florida, Texas, the Mid-Atlantic, and the Northeast.
Speaker #1: The expected acquisition of Epsilon will further expand our capabilities. Epsilon has more than 25 years of experience in providing offsite construction solutions across North America.
Speaker #1: They are recognized for their innovation, proprietary capabilities, and highly refined execution processes that provide consistent and efficient delivery of complex custom solutions. Epsilon offers a full range of services, including design assist custom fabrication and turnkey field installation, that support diverse project types like data centers, advanced manufacturing, and healthcare.
Speaker #3: Epsilon is led by a strong leadership team with extensive technical and operational expertise and has an experienced labor force that includes more than 50 engineers and 120 skilled tradespeople.
Speaker #3: We are excited to welcome Epsilon to the Everus team and look forward to another successful integration after the transaction closes later this year. And finally, our focus on disciplined capital allocation.
Speaker #1: Epsilon has multiple strategic facilities in the U.S. and Canada, enabling nationwide distribution. In addition to integrating with our existing footprint, we expect that Epsilon's footprint will enhance growth in key geographic areas, including Florida, Texas, the Mid-Atlantic, and the Northeast.
Speaker #3: While it took some time, and I know everyone was eagerly waiting for us to begin executing on our inorganic growth strategy, we are very excited we acquired SENM in April.
Speaker #3: Our first transaction as a standalone public company. And we are thrilled with our recent announcement of the pending Epsilon acquisition. As I already mentioned, the integration of SENM is on track, and we are already exploring expanded opportunities.
Speaker #1: Epsilon is led by a strong leadership team with extensive technical and operational expertise, and has an experienced labor force that includes more than 50 engineers and 120 skilled trace people.
Speaker #3: We have a fantastic team, and we are grateful to have them be part of the Everus family of companies. We think both SENM and Epsilon align with the acquisition strategy we previously described, which is to expand our geographic footprint, diversify our business, and deepen our market presence.
Speaker #1: We are excited to welcome Epsilon to the Everus team and look forward to another successful integration after the transaction closes later this year. And finally, our focus on disciplined capital allocation.
Speaker #1: While it took some time, and I know everyone was eagerly waiting for us to begin executing on our inorganic growth strategy, we are very excited we acquired SE&M in April.
Speaker #3: Our net leverage is well below our 1.5 to 2 times target range, which gives us continued flexibility to execute on our growth strategy. Our acquisition pipeline remains active.
Speaker #1: Our first transaction as a standalone public company. And we are thrilled with our recent announcement of the pending Epsilon acquisition. As I already mentioned, the integration of SE&M is on track, and we are already exploring expanded opportunities.
Speaker #3: In summary, we remain encouraged by the sustained market demand trends and are very proud of our continued strong execution. We are performing at a very high level across the organization, both strategically and operationally.
Speaker #1: They have a fantastic team, and we are grateful to have them be part of the Everus family of companies. We think both SE&M and Epsilon align with the acquisition strategy we previously described, which is to expand our geographic footprint, diversify our business, and deepen our market presence.
Speaker #3: Based on our robust first half of the year, we are pleased to be raising our 2026 guidance, which Max will discuss in more detail.
Speaker #3: We remain committed to our forever strategic priorities and are highly confident in our ability to deliver on our long-term financial goals. With that, I'll turn it over to Max.
Speaker #1: Our net leverage is well below our 1.5 to 2 times target range, which gives us continued flexibility to execute on our growth strategy. Our acquisition pipeline remains active.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Jeff, and good morning, everyone. I will provide additional details on the quarter, give an update on our liquidity and balance sheet, and wrap up with our updated guidance.
Speaker #1: In summary, we remain encouraged by the sustained market demand trends and are very proud of our continued strong execution. We are performing at a very high level across the organization, both strategically and operationally.
Speaker #2: Beginning on slide 11 of the presentation, record revenues for the second quarter were $1.23 billion. An increase of 34% compared to the same period last year.
Speaker #1: Based on our robust first half of the year, we are pleased to be raising our 2026 guidance, which Max will discuss in more detail.
Speaker #2: With the increase was driven by growth in both our E&M and T&D segments, including contributions from the recently acquired SENM. Excluding the contribution from SENM, revenues were up 30% on an organic basis.
Speaker #1: We remain committed to our forever strategic priorities and are highly confident in our ability to deliver on our long-term financial goals. With that, I'll turn it over to Max.
Speaker #2: Total EBITDA was $128.6 million, during the second quarter, an increase of 53% from the same period in 2025, driven by solid revenue growth and continued strong project execution.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Jeff. And good morning, everyone. I will provide additional details on the quarter, give an update on our liquidity and balance sheet, and wrap up with our updated guidance.
Speaker #2: Beginning on slide 11 of the presentation, record revenues for the second quarter were $1.23 billion. An increase of 34% compared to the same period last year.
Speaker #2: As a result, our second quarter EBITDA margin was 10.4%, up 130 basis points from 9.1% in the prior year period. On June 30, total backlog was 4.55 billion.
Speaker #2: The increase was driven by growth in both our E&M and T&D segments, including contributions from the recently acquired SE&M. Excluding the contribution from SE&M, revenues were up 30% on an organic basis.
Speaker #2: Up 53% from June 30 of last year. The increase was driven by strong growth in our E&M backlog, which was up 62%, reflecting organic growth across all E&M markets, as well as contributions from SENM, which contributed roughly $100 million to backlog at quarter end.
Speaker #2: Total EBITDA was $128.6 million, during the second quarter, an increase of 53% from the same period in 2025, driven by solid revenue growth and continued strong project execution.
Speaker #2: Now turning to segment results. Let's first look at E&M, where our second quarter revenues increased 42% to $1.01 billion. The increase was driven primarily by growth in our commercial and industrial end markets, as well as the addition of SENM.
Speaker #2: As a result, our second quarter EBITDA margin was 10.4%, up 130 basis points from 9.1% in the prior year period. On June 30, total backlog was $4.55 billion.
Speaker #2: Excluding SENM, our E&M revenue was up 37% organically. Our E&M EBITDA was $109.3 million, in the second quarter, an increase of 72% compared to second quarter of 2025.
Speaker #2: Up 53% from June 30 of last year. The increase was driven by strong growth in our E&M backlog, which was up 62%, reflecting organic growth across all E&M markets, as well as contributions from SE&M, which contributed roughly $100 million to backlog at quarter-end.
Speaker #2: The increase was driven by our gross margin, due to project timing and strong project execution. As a result, our E&M segment EBITDA margin was 10.8%, up 190 basis points compared to 8.9% in the second quarter of 2025.
Speaker #2: Now, turning to segment results. Let's first look at E&M, where our second quarter revenues increased 42% to $1.01 billion. The increase was driven primarily by growth in our commercial and industrial end markets, as well as the addition of SE&M.
Speaker #2: Our second quarter T&D revenues were $227.5 million, up 7.1% from second quarter of last year, driven by growth in our utility end market. T&D segment EBITDA was 32.8 million.
Speaker #2: Excluding SE&M, our E&M revenue was up 37% organically. Our E&M EBITDA was $109.3 million, in the second quarter, an increase of 72% compared to second quarter of 2025.
Speaker #2: In the second quarter, up 7.9% from the prior year period, due to the higher revenues. As a result, T&D segment EBITDA margin was 14.4% during the second quarter, compared to 14.3% in the same period last year.
Speaker #2: The increase was driven by our strong revenue growth and higher gross margin, due to project timing and strong project execution. As a result, our E&M segment EBITDA margin was 10.8%, up 190 basis points compared to 8.9% in the second quarter of 2025.
Speaker #2: Turning to our balance sheet and liquidity. As of June 30, we had $157 million of unrestricted cash and cash equivalents, $278 million of gross debt, and $223 million available under the credit facility.
Speaker #2: Our second quarter T&D revenues were $227.5 million, up 7.1% from second quarter of last year, driven by growth in our utility end market. T&D segment EBITDA was 32.8 million, in the second quarter, up 7.9% from the prior year period, due to the higher revenues.
Speaker #2: Our net debt increased sequentially, reflecting the acquisition of SENM. Partially offset by our strong operating results. Net leverage defined as net debt to trailing 12-month EBITDA, was 0.3 times as of June 30, well below our 1.5 to 2 times targeted range, providing ample flexibility to continue investing in our strategic growth initiatives.
Speaker #2: As a result, T&D segment EBITDA margin was 14.4% during the second quarter, compared to 14.3% in the same period last year. Turning to our balance sheet and liquidity.
Speaker #2: Operating cash flows were $196.8 million, for the first six months of 2026, compared to 32.5 million in the same period last year, due to the strong operating results and favorable working capital timing.
Speaker #2: As of June 30, we had $157 million of unrestricted cash and cash equivalents, $278 million of gross debt, and $223 million available under the credit facility.
Speaker #2: Capex was 35.6 million, for the first six months of 2026, up modestly from 31.6 million in the prior year period. We generated free cash flow of $167 million, for the first six months of 2026, up from 6.5 million in the first half of 2025.
Speaker #2: Our net debt increased sequentially, reflecting the acquisition of SE&M. Partially offset by our strong operating results. Net leverage defined as net debt to trailing 12-month EBITDA, was 0.3 times as of June 30, well below our 1.5 to 2 times targeted range, providing ample flexibility to continue investing in our strategic growth initiatives.
Speaker #2: While our first half free cash flow had some timing benefits, we still expect a more normalized free cash flow conversion for the remainder of the year, with our forecasted growth and operating results largely offset by our higher levels of growth investments.
Speaker #2: Operating cash flows were $196.8 million for the first six months of 2026, compared to $32.5 million in the same period last year, due to the strong operating results and favorable working capital timing.
Speaker #2: Wrapping up with guidance. Based on our strong first half results, combined with the continued momentum we see across our business, we are raising full year 2026 guidance.
Speaker #2: CapEx x was 35.6 million for the first six months of 2026, up modestly from 31.6 million in the prior year period. We generated free cash flow of $167 million, for the first six months of 2026, up from 6.5 million in the first half of 2025.
Speaker #2: We are now forecasting revenues in the range of $4.5 to $4.7 billion, and EBITDA in the range of $410 to $425 million. Our guidance does not include any contribution from the epsilon acquisition, which we expect to close later this year.
Speaker #2: While our first half free cash flow had some timing benefits, we still expect a more normalized free cash flow conversion for the remainder of the year, with our forecasted growth and operating results largely offset by our higher levels of growth investments.
Speaker #2: At the midpoint of our range, our guidance implies EBITDA margins of around 9% for the year, which reflects the execution upside from the first half, as well as the margin accretion from SENM.
Speaker #2: For the balance of the year, our guidance assumes EBITDA margins of around 8.5%. That completes our prepared remarks, Operator. We are now ready for the question-and-answer portion of our call.
Speaker #2: Wrapping up with guidance. Based on our strong first half results, combined with the continued momentum we see across our business, we are raising full year 2026 guidance.
Speaker #2: We are now forecasting revenues in the range of $4.5 to $4.7 billion, and EBITDA in the range of $410 to $425 million. Our guidance does not include any contribution from the Epsilon acquisition, which we expect to close later this year.
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Speaker #2: At the midpoint of our range, our guidance implies EBITDA margins of around 9% for the year, which reflects the execution upside from the first half, as well as the margin accretion from SE&M.
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Speaker #2: For the balance of the year, our guidance assumes EBITDA margins of around 8.5%. That completes our prepared remarks, operator. We are now ready for the question-and-answer portion of our call.
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Speaker #3: Hey, great. Thanks. Great quarter. I guess first question. Jeffrey Max just on epsilon did you just talk about whether there's a previous relationship there?
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Speaker #3: Maybe the synergies you foresee with the transaction with your existing operations, whether that's sort of integration with your field services people or sort of new customer opportunities?
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Speaker #2: Yeah, thanks for the question, Brent. Yeah, we're real excited about epsilon. They are an excellent upside construction business, and they have a very well-known customer list.
Speaker #2: It's grown primarily in the mechanical space. They're going to provide access for us in new geographies through their modular solutions, and there's also going to be potential to add satellite locations to support their business.
Speaker #3: Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: Hey, great. Thanks, great quarter. I guess, first question—Jeffrey, Max—just on Epsilon, could you talk about whether there's a previous relationship there and maybe the synergies you foresee with the transaction with your existing operations? Whether that's for integration with your field services people or for new customer opportunities.
Speaker #2: We're going to see continued growth in the mechanical and cross-selling opportunities in electrical as well. Introducing epsilon and their leadership team into the rest of our company is going to also help us leverage customer lists from our current customers and also with theirs.
Speaker #2: Yeah, thanks for the question, Brent. Yeah, we're real excited about Epsilon. They are an excellent upside construction business, and they have a very well-known customer list.
Speaker #2: So we see this as a great opportunity for collaboration and to be able to leverage what they do also coupling that with whatever's consistently has done to be able to build upon our modular expertise.
Speaker #2: It's grown primarily in the mechanical space. They're going to provide access for us in new geographies through their modular solutions, and there's also going to be potential to add satellite locations to support their business.
Speaker #3: Okay. Okay, great. And I guess my follow-on is just on the solid E&M margin performance. I know there's a portion of the business that you approach more on a cost-plus basis, but Jeff, what specifically is driving the higher margins here?
Speaker #2: We're going to see continued growth in the mechanical and cross-selling opportunities in electrical as well. Introducing Epsilon and their leadership team into the rest of our company is also going to help us leverage customer lists from our current customers, as well as theirs.
Speaker #3: Is it more effective leverage of your workforce? Is it performance bonuses? Anything else that you can kind of talk through as we think about kind of margin performance going forward for that segment?
Speaker #2: So we see this as a great opportunity for collaboration and to be able to leverage what they do also coupling that with whatever's consistently has done to be able to build upon our modular expertise.
Speaker #2: Yes. We're always striving to be able to have margin uplift and our goal, of course, is the 20 to 30 basis points growth margin expansion.
Speaker #4: Okay. Okay, great. And I guess my follow-on is just on the solid E&M margin performance. I know there's a portion of the business that you approach more on a cost-plus basis, but Jeff, what specifically is driving the higher margins here?
Speaker #2: And we attribute our margin results to planning the work, making sure we have good deals upfront, contract reviews, good estimates, all of these processes that we put in place and what we call our repeatable playbook.
Speaker #2: Then the execution, safely and productively, and building those relationships with the customers, really helps us get that repeat business work on similar type projects.
Speaker #4: Is it more effective leverage of your workforce? Is it performance bonuses? Anything else that you can kind of talk through as we think about kind of margin performance going forward for that segment?
Speaker #2: And improve those margins. And then when you think about the available labor and making sure that we're emphasizing access to labor, training our people, providing the tools and equipment and information they need, that all contributes to the margin performance that we've had for the first half of the year.
Speaker #2: Yes. We're always striving to be able to have margin uplift and our goal, of course, is a 20 to 30 basis points growth margin expansion and we attribute our margin results to planning the work, making sure we have good deals upfront, contract reviews, good estimates, all of these processes that we put in place and what we call our repeatable playbook.
Speaker #3: Okay, great. Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Your next question is from Manish Somaiya, with Canter Fitzgerald. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Then the execution, safely and productively, and building those relationships with the customers, really helps us get that repeat business work on similar type projects.
Speaker #4: Thank you so much. Good morning, gentlemen. And congratulations on a strong quarter. As well as the acquisitions, so far this year. On I had a question Jeff, Max, specifically on the backlog conversion.
Speaker #2: And improve those margins. And then when you think about the available labor and making sure that we're emphasizing access to labor, training our people, providing the tools and equipment and information they need, that all contributes to the margin performance that we've had for the first half of the year.
Speaker #4: The 4.5 billion of backlog, how should we think about the conversion of that in second half '26, '27? How should we think about the margins in that backlog?
Speaker #4: Okay, great. Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Your next question is from Manisha Maya, with Canter Fitzgerald. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: If you can just give us some sense of how we should think about those things.
Speaker #2: Yeah, great question, Manish. When we look at our backlog and how much burns off in 12 months, and we look at at least every quarter, we're still about that 80% range of backlog that burns off in 12 months.
Speaker #4: Thank you so much. Good morning, gentlemen. And congratulations on a strong quarter. As well as the acquisitions so far this year. On I had a question Jeff, Max, specifically on the backlog conversion.
Speaker #2: And we look at the work that we're getting and the margins are comparable. And what we've seen over prior periods, we'll again focus on our execution to be able to take those backlog numbers and improve upon what we have when we start these projects.
Speaker #4: The 4.5 billion of backlog, how should we think about the conversion of that in second half '26, '27? How should we think about the margins in that backlog?
Speaker #4: If you could just give us some sense of how we should think about those things.
Speaker #4: And Jeff, on that, have you talked about the data center concentration within E&M backlog? Maybe if you can just kind of give us some sense as to how diversified the backlog is across customers, geography,?
Speaker #2: Yeah, great question, Manisha. When we look at our backlog and how much burns off in 12 months, and we look at at least every quarter, we're still about that 80% range of backlog that burns off in 12 months.
Speaker #2: And we look at the work that we're getting and the margins are comparable. And what we've seen over prior periods, we'll again, focus on our execution to be able to take those backlog numbers and improve upon what we have when we start these projects.
Speaker #2: Sure. Data centers we've said before, in previous quarters, and it still is the case. It's the largest part of our backlog. And we're executing and we're doing a great job with data centers.
Speaker #2: Our goal is to become indispensable to our customers. We do look at customer concentration, but when we look at our largest customer, we're serving them in multiple regions.
Speaker #4: And Jeff, on that, have you talked about the data center concentration within E&M backlog? Maybe, if you can, just kind of give us some sense as to how diversified the backlog is across customers and geography?
Speaker #2: So we want to make sure that we're still getting the work, negotiating, or somehow negotiating the work, and serving our current customers, but expanding our customer base.
Speaker #2: When I look at our backlog, sequentially, we have increased backlog in almost every single one of our end markets, which is exciting to me, because we talk about diversification, looking at where the best markets are, but also the industrial, the institutional, renewables are service work, and of course, our utility work.
Speaker #2: Sure. Data centers we've said before, in previous quarters, and it still is the case. It's the largest part of our backlog. And we're executing and we're doing a great job with data centers.
Speaker #2: Our goal is to become indispensable to our customers. We do look at customer concentration, but when we look at our largest customer, we're serving them in multiple regions.
Speaker #2: All we have seen sequential increases in our backlog.
Speaker #5: Yeah, I would just add also that the majority of the sequential backlog increase was not in the commercial market.
Speaker #2: So we want to make sure that we're still getting the work, negotiating, or semi-negotiating the work, and serving our current customers, but expanding our customer base.
Speaker #2: Good point.
Speaker #4: So I guess, Jeff and Max, just based on everything that you just said, when I look at the long-term expectations that you have on slide 9, organic revenue growth of 5 to 7, EBITDA trigger 7 to 9, it just looks way too conservative.
Speaker #2: When I look at our backlog, sequentially, we have increased backlog in almost every single one of our end markets, which is exciting to me because we talk about diversification, looking at where the best markets are, but also the industrial, the institutional, renewables are service work, and of course, our utility work.
Speaker #4: Based on what we're discussing today, I guess, how do you think about potentially revising those or making it a little bit more in line with the outlook?
Speaker #2: All we have seen sequential increases in our backlog.
Speaker #5: Yeah, I would just add also that the majority of the sequential backlog increase was not in the commercial market.
Speaker #2: Good point.
Speaker #2: We're experiencing tremendous opportunities in the markets today. And we set our long-term growth targets. That's what they are, is long-term growth targets. We're going to look at those again.
Speaker #4: So I guess Jeff and Max, just based on everything that you just said, when I look at the long-term expectations that you have on slide 9, organic revenue growth of 5 to 7, EBITDA figure 7 to 9, it just looks way too conservative.
Speaker #2: Meanwhile, we're going to try to capitalize on the great market conditions we have with our very strategic approach to focus on diversification and execution.
Speaker #4: Based on what we're discussing today. I guess how do you think about potentially revising those or making it a little bit more in line with the outlook?
Speaker #5: Yeah, I mean, and that's right, Manish. I mean, these are long-term targets, right? This can be a cyclical market, and we're looking at what we can deliver over the long term here.
Speaker #5: I mean, the way we address it in the short term is we provide you kind of annual guidance from where we think the business can do on an annual basis.
Speaker #2: We're experiencing tremendous opportunities in the markets today. When we set our long-term growth targets, that's what they are—long-term growth targets. We're going to look at those again.
Speaker #5: But then from a long-term perspective, some years will be higher, some years will be lower, and in the last couple of years, I mean, we've only been public for six quarters, right?
Speaker #5: So I think we're delivering in the short term above that right now. But I think over the long term, that's still our targeting framework.
Speaker #2: Meanwhile, we're going to try to capitalize on the great market conditions we have with our very strategic approach to focus on diversification and execution.
Speaker #4: And just Max on that, when you say long term, is it three years? Is it five years? I mean, how are you defining long term?
Speaker #5: Yeah, I mean, that's right, Manisha. These are long-term targets, right? This can be a cyclical market, and we're looking at what we can deliver over the long term here.
Speaker #5: Yeah, well, it's definitely more than three years, right? I mean, it's more of a cycle, right? So it's probably more than five years.
Speaker #5: I mean, the way we address it in the short term is we provide you kind of annual guidance for where we think the business can do on an annual basis.
Speaker #4: Okay. Thank you. Thanks, guys.
Speaker #5: But then from a long-term perspective, some years will be higher, some years will be lower, and in the last couple of years, I mean, we've only been public for six quarters, right?
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Brian Brophy, with Stephen. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Speaker #5: So, I think we're delivering in the short term above that right now, but I think over the long term, that's still our targeted framework.
Speaker #6: Yeah, thanks. Good morning, everybody. Congrats on the great quarter. Nice execution, obviously, here in the first half. Curious the level of visibility you have into healthy project execution in the back half at this point.
Speaker #4: And just Max on that, when you say long term, is it three years? Is it five years? I mean, how are you defining long term?
Speaker #6: Thanks.
Speaker #2: Yeah, we look at our projects that we have on our web, and stay very close to our operating companies and understanding the forecast of how these projects can function and how they can provide us results for the back half.
Speaker #5: Yeah, well, it's definitely more than three years, right? I mean, it's more of a cycle, right? So it's probably more than five years.
Speaker #4: Okay. Thank you. Thanks, guys.
Speaker #2: And we believe that 8.5% level is more sustainable than we've achieved in the first half. We're always striving for margin uplift through execution. And we'll take that repeatable playbook and continue to reach for those goals.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from Brian Brophy with Stifel. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Speaker #2: Yeah, thanks. Good morning, everybody. Congrats on the great quarter. Nice execution, obviously, here in the first half. Curious the level of visibility you have into healthy project execution in the back half at this point.
Speaker #5: Yeah, and Brian, we did take up the margin percentage guidance in the back half of the year slightly. And that's reflective of visibility we have to project execution.
Speaker #2: Thanks.
Speaker #1: Yeah, we look at our projects that we have on our web and stay very close to our operating companies and understanding the forecast of how these projects can function and how they can provide us results for the back half.
Speaker #6: Understood. That's helpful. And then maybe just touch on the hospitality end market. How are you thinking about the outlook there in the back half?
Speaker #1: And we believe that 8.5% level is more sustainable, that we've achieved in the first half. We're always striving for margin uplift through execution. And we'll take that repeatable playbook and continue to reach for those goals.
Speaker #2: We've got four great companies in Las Vegas, and that's primarily where our hospitality work is. And we're involved in a lot of the large projects that are occurring in Las Vegas.
Speaker #2: We're very well positioned to be able to get future work. And we've got diversification of not just hospitality in Las Vegas, but we're also doing data center work there.
Speaker #5: Yeah, and Brian, we did take up the margin percentage guidance in the back half of the year slightly, and that's reflective of the visibility we have to project execution.
Speaker #2: We're doing some institutional work along the lines of our electrical, mechanical, fire protection, and underground utilities.
Speaker #2: Understood. That's helpful. And then maybe just touch on the hospitality and market. How are you thinking about the outlook there in the back half?
Speaker #6: Appreciate it. I'll pass it on.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Joseph Osha, with Guggenheim Securities. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: We've got four great companies in Las Vegas, and that's primarily where our hospitality work is. And we're involved in a lot of the large projects that are occurring in Las Vegas.
Speaker #7: Hi, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my question. There's two. First, I'm wondering if you can talk a little bit about the semiconductor end market.
Speaker #1: We're very well positioned to be able to get future work. And we've got diversification of not just hospitality in Las Vegas, but we're also doing data center work there.
Speaker #7: It seems like your skill set is well suited to bad construction. And then the second question I have was talked a lot about acquisitions on the E&M side.
Speaker #1: We're doing some institutional work along the lines of our electrical, mechanical, and fire protection, underground utilities.
Speaker #7: What opportunities are there, if any, for inorganic growth on the T&D side? Thank you.
Speaker #2: Appreciate it. I'll pass it on.
Speaker #2: Okay. Super. Yeah, the semiconductor market is a market we've participated in for 30-plus years. Today, we are serving more customers in more geographies, and we've talked about our additional location satellite office that we have.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Joseph Osha with Guggenheim Securities. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Hi, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my question. There are two. First, I'm wondering if you can talk a little bit about the semiconductor end market.
Speaker #2: In the mountain states, that project is ramping. It's going to provide some contribution this year and even through next year. So very pleased with our outlook on semi-fab and we're well positioned to continue having that contribute to our success.
Speaker #6: It seems like your skill set is well suited to bad construction. And then the second question I have was talked a lot about acquisitions on the E&M side.
Speaker #6: What opportunities are there, if any, for inorganic growth on the T&D side? Thank you.
Speaker #2: As far as the acquisitions on both E&M and T&D, we are looking at both segments to be able to add companies to help diversify our business.
Speaker #1: Okay, super. Yeah, the semiconductor market is a market we've participated in for 30-plus years. Today, we are serving more customers in more geographies, and we've talked about our additional locations—satellite office that we have in the Mountain States.
Speaker #2: And of course, E&M is the largest part of our revenue, but we do support and are very optimistic on the T&D segment. We'll continue to support our organic growth with capital, and look for T&D companies that are going to help us expand through selective and disciplined M&A.
Speaker #1: That project is ramping. It's going to provide some contribution this year and even through next year. So very pleased with our outlook on semi-fab and we're well positioned to continue having that contribute to our success.
Speaker #7: Thank you. Just as a quick follow-on, Max, can we assume that the ceiling and the leverage here is somewhere between 2.5 to 3? Is that a fair assumption?
Speaker #1: As far as the acquisitions on both E&M and T&D, we are looking at both segments to be able to add companies to help diversify our business.
Speaker #2: Well, I don't I mean, I guess in our credit agreements, it would be that. But I mean, I think we really do want to kind of operate in that 1.5 to 2.
Speaker #2: I mean, even with the risk transaction, right? I mean, our leverage will still be in a pretty good place. So I think there's a lot of opportunity to kind of operate and to transact and still stay within that targeted range of 1.5 to 2.
Speaker #1: And, of course, E&M is the largest part of our revenue, but we do support and are very optimistic about the T&D segment. We'll continue to support our organic growth with capital and look for T&D companies that are going to help us expand through selective and disciplined M&A.
Speaker #7: Understood. Thank you, guys.
Speaker #2: See you.
Speaker #6: Thank you. Just as a quick follow-on, Max, can we assume that the ceiling and the leverage here is somewhere between two and a half to three?
Speaker #1: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Jeff Speed for closing remarks.
Speaker #7: Thank you, operator. And thank you all again for joining us today. We'll be attending several upcoming investor events, including the Jeffrey's Conference in New York, and the DA Davidson Industrials Conference in Nashville.
Speaker #6: Is that a fair assumption?
Speaker #1: Well, I don't I mean, I guess
Speaker #5: In our credit agreements, it would be that. But I mean, I think we really do want to kind of operate in that 1.5 to 2 range.
Speaker #5: I mean, even with the risk transaction, right? I mean, our leverage will still be in a pretty good place. So I think there's a lot of opportunity to kind of operate and to transact and still stay within that targeted range of one and a half to two.
Speaker #7: If we are not able to connect during the next few months, we look forward to speaking with you on our next quarterly earnings call.
Speaker #7: Thank you for your time, and your interest in Everus. This concludes today's call.
Speaker #6: Understood. Thank you, guys.
Speaker #1: You too.
Speaker #3: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Jess Feed for closing remarks.
Speaker #2: Thank you, operator. And thank you all again for joining us today. We'll be attending several upcoming investor events, including the Jeffries Conference in New York, and the DA Davidson Industrials Conference in Nashville.
Speaker #2: If we are not able to connect during the next few months, we look forward to speaking with you on our next quarterly earnings call.
Speaker #2: Thank you for your time and your interest in Everus. This concludes today's call.
