Full Year 2026 REA Group Ltd Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the REA Group Limited full-year 2026 results conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.
Operator: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the REA Group Ltd Full Year 2026 Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during this session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Alice Bennett, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Operator: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the REA Group Ltd Full Year 2026 Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during this session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Alice Bennett, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during this session, you'll need to press star one one on your telephone.
Speaker #1: You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded.
Speaker #1: I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Alice Bennett, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Good morning, and welcome, everyone. My name's Alice Bennett, Head of Investor Relations, and I'd like to thank you for joining REA Group's 2026 full-year results presentation.
Alice Bennett: Good morning, and welcome everyone. My name's Alice Bennett, Head of Investor Relations, and I would like to thank you for joining REA Group's 2026 full year results presentation. Before we commence, I would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of country throughout Australia and recognize the continuing connections to lands, waters, and communities. We pay our respect to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures and to elders past and present. Today, you will hear from REA's CEO, Cameron McIntyre, and Andrew Cramer, REA's CFO. Cam will talk to our overarching financial performance and strategic highlights for the year. He will then hand over to Andrew to talk to our financial results in more depth. Following this, we will be happy to take your questions. With that, I will pass to Cam to get us started.
Alice Bennett: Good morning, and welcome everyone. My name's Alice Bennett, Head of Investor Relations, and I would like to thank you for joining REA Group's 2026 full year results presentation. Before we commence, I would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of country throughout Australia and recognize the continuing connections to lands, waters, and communities. We pay our respect to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures and to elders past and present. Today, you will hear from REA's CEO, Cameron McIntyre, and Andrew Cramer, REA's CFO. Cam will talk to our overarching financial performance and strategic highlights for the year. He will then hand over to Andrew to talk to our financial results in more depth. Following this, we will be happy to take your questions. With that, I will pass to Cam to get us started.
Speaker #2: Before we commence, I'd like to acknowledge the Traditional Owners of Country throughout Australia, and recognize their continuing connection to lands, waters, and communities. We pay our respects to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures, and to Elders past and present.
Speaker #2: Today you'll hear from REA's CEO, Cameron McIntyre, and Andrew Kramer, REA's CFO. Cameron will talk to our overarching financial performance and strategic highlights for the year.
Speaker #2: He will then hand over to Andrew to talk to our financial results in more depth. Following this, we'll be happy to take your questions.
Speaker #2: With that, I'll pass to Cameron to get us started.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Alice. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our call. We've had an excellent FY26, underpinned by a number of things, but in particular double-digit year-on-year growth. Product development has been moving forward at a great pace, which you'll see is creating tangible opportunities and adding to the value we deliver for our consumers, customers, and brokers alike.
Cameron McIntyre: Thanks, Alice. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our call. We have had an excellent FY26 underpinned by a number of things, but in particular, double-digit yield growth. Product development has been moving forward at a great pace, which you will see is creating tangible opportunities and adding to the value we deliver for our consumers, customers, and brokers alike. Let us jump into the detail. Look at the group financial result. Core operations for the year saw revenue up 7% on PCP to AUD 1.79 billion. EBITDA, excluding associates, was up 12% on PCP to AUD 1.09 billion. NPAT up 15% to AUD 650 million. Free cash flow was strong too, up 17% to AUD 628 million. The board has determined to pay a final dividend of AUD 1.73 per share. Together with the interim dividend, this represents a total dividend of AUD 2.97 per share, fully franked, an increase of 20% on PCP.
Cameron McIntyre: Thanks, Alice. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our call. We have had an excellent FY26 underpinned by a number of things, but in particular, double-digit yield growth. Product development has been moving forward at a great pace, which you will see is creating tangible opportunities and adding to the value we deliver for our consumers, customers, and brokers alike. Let us jump into the detail. Look at the group financial result. Core operations for the year saw revenue up 7% on PCP to AUD 1.79 billion. EBITDA, excluding associates, was up 12% on PCP to AUD 1.09 billion. NPAT up 15% to AUD 650 million. Free cash flow was strong too, up 17% to AUD 628 million. The board has determined to pay a final dividend of AUD 1.73 per share. Together with the interim dividend, this represents a total dividend of AUD 2.97 per share, fully franked, an increase of 20% on PCP.
Speaker #3: So let's jump into the detail. Looking at the group financial result, core operations for the year saw revenue up 7% on PCP to $1.79 billion. EBITDA, excluding associates, was up 12% on PCP to $1.09 billion. NPAT was up 15% to $650 million, and free cash flow was strong too, up 17% to $628 million.
Speaker #3: The board has determined to pay a final dividend of $1.73 per share. Together with the interim dividend, this represents a total dividend of $2.97 per share, fully franked—an increase of 20% on PCP.
Speaker #3: Alongside our operating performance, we maintained a disciplined approach to cost and capital management. We improved operational efficiency and returned capital to shareholders through our $200 million share buyback program, reflecting the financial strength and confidence we have in the business.
Cameron McIntyre: Alongside our operating performance, we maintained a disciplined approach to cost and capital management. We improved operational efficiency, and we returned capital to shareholders through our AUD 200 million share buyback program, reflecting the financial strength and the confidence that we have in the business. We evolved our well-established strategy during the year as well, and we enter our new chapter from a position of strength. Our strategy for the years ahead builds on the success of the past three decades and sharpens our focus on unlocking new growth. Our purpose remains clear, and that is to change the way the world experiences property. As technology, data, and AI, they will transform the industry, we see significant opportunity to deliver even more value for consumers, customers, and brokers.
Cameron McIntyre: Alongside our operating performance, we maintained a disciplined approach to cost and capital management. We improved operational efficiency, and we returned capital to shareholders through our AUD 200 million share buyback program, reflecting the financial strength and the confidence that we have in the business. We evolved our well-established strategy during the year as well, and we enter our new chapter from a position of strength. Our strategy for the years ahead builds on the success of the past three decades and sharpens our focus on unlocking new growth. Our purpose remains clear, and that is to change the way the world experiences property. As technology, data, and AI, they will transform the industry, we see significant opportunity to deliver even more value for consumers, customers, and brokers.
Speaker #3: We evolved our well-established strategy during the year as well, and we enter our new chapter from a position of strength. Our strategy for the years ahead builds on the success of the past three decades and sharpens our focus on unlocking new growth.
Speaker #3: Our purpose remains clear, and that is to change the way the world experiences property. And as technology, data, and AI transform the industry, we see significant opportunity to deliver even more value for consumers, customers, and brokers.
Speaker #3: Our strategy embraces our evolving landscape, putting trust at the core, underpinned by our strengths in deep relationships, unparalleled data, and better outcomes for our stakeholders.
Cameron McIntyre: Our strategy embraces our evolving landscape, putting trust at the core, underpinned by our strengths in deep relationships, unparalleled data, and better outcomes for our stakeholders. We're focused on three enterprise-wide missions: to reinvent property experiences, scale our growth engines, and accelerate the organization. We'll dive a little bit more into this strategy on our investor day, which we're planning for in October this year. Before we move into our operational highlights, I'd like to touch on the market conditions at present. As you can see on the chart on the left, listing volumes in the Q2 strengthened against softer comps, with strong growth in all capital cities. The chart on the right highlights the return to more normalized market conditions in the last three years.
Cameron McIntyre: Our strategy embraces our evolving landscape, putting trust at the core, underpinned by our strengths in deep relationships, unparalleled data, and better outcomes for our stakeholders. We're focused on three enterprise-wide missions: to reinvent property experiences, scale our growth engines, and accelerate the organization. We'll dive a little bit more into this strategy on our investor day, which we're planning for in October this year. Before we move into our operational highlights, I'd like to touch on the market conditions at present. As you can see on the chart on the left, listing volumes in the Q2 strengthened against softer comps, with strong growth in all capital cities. The chart on the right highlights the return to more normalized market conditions in the last three years.
Speaker #3: We're focused on three enterprise-wide missions: to reinvent property experiences, scale our growth engines, and accelerate the organization. We'll dive a little bit more into this strategy at our investor day, which we're planning for October this year.
Speaker #3: Now, before we move into our operational highlights, I'd like to touch on the market conditions at present. As you can see on the chart on the left, listing volumes in the June quarter strengthened against softer comps, with strong growth in all capital cities.
Speaker #3: The chart on the right highlights the return in the last three years. The fluctuating listing volumes between FY19 and FY23 reflect the impact of the Royal Commission, the pandemic, and successive interest rate hikes.
Cameron McIntyre: The fluctuating listing volumes between FY2019 and FY2023 reflect the impact of the Royal Commission, the pandemic, and successive interest rate hikes. The more stable market in FY2026 supported vendor confidence, with buyer listings in line with prior years' strong volumes and around 1% below FY2018. On the buy side, inquiry levels remained strong in FY2026, although the last three interest rate rises in the H2, capital gains tax changes, and negative gearing changes created some uncertainty, which flowed through to inquiry volumes towards the very end of the financial year. Despite all this, though, properties continued to sell at a relatively typical rate in most capital cities, highlighting some continued strength in underlying demand.
Cameron McIntyre: The fluctuating listing volumes between FY 2019 and FY 2023 reflect the impact of the Royal Commission, the pandemic, and successive interest rate hikes. The more stable market in FY 2026 supported vendor confidence, with buyer listings in line with prior years' strong volumes and around 1% below FY 2018. On the buy side, inquiry levels remained strong in FY 2026, although the last three interest rate rises in the H2, capital gains tax changes, and negative gearing changes created some uncertainty, which flowed through to inquiry volumes towards the very end of the financial year. Despite all this, though, properties continued to sell at a relatively typical rate in most capital cities, highlighting some continued strength in underlying demand.
Speaker #3: The more stable market in FY26 supported vendor confidence, with buy listings in line with prior years’ strong volumes and around 1% below FY18. On the buy side, inquiry levels remained strong in FY26, although the last three interest rate rises in the second half, capital gains tax changes, and negative gearing changes created some uncertainty, which flowed through to inquiry volumes towards the very end of the financial year.
Speaker #3: Despite all this, though, property has continued to sell at a relatively typical rate in most capital cities, highlighting some continued strength in underlying demand. Looking at property pricing in the chart on the left of this slide, as you can see here, prices remain significantly higher than in recent years in all capital cities except Melbourne.
Cameron McIntyre: Looking at property pricing in the chart on the left of this slide, as you can see here, prices remain significantly higher than recent years in all capital cities except Melbourne. The softening in buyer inquiry volumes mentioned earlier that we saw in Q4 did begin to impact price growth in the quarter. Looking at the right side of the slide, the rental market remains challenging for tenants, with national rents reaching new highs in the Q2. Rental vacancies have slightly increased, which will support tenants. However, an anticipated decrease in investor demand is likely to put renewed pressure on rents.
Cameron McIntyre: Looking at property pricing in the chart on the left of this slide, as you can see here, prices remain significantly higher than recent years in all capital cities except Melbourne. The softening in buyer inquiry volumes mentioned earlier that we saw in Q4 did begin to impact price growth in the quarter. Looking at the right side of the slide, the rental market remains challenging for tenants, with national rents reaching new highs in the Q2. Rental vacancies have slightly increased, which will support tenants. However, an anticipated decrease in investor demand is likely to put renewed pressure on rents.
Speaker #3: The softening in buyer inquiry volumes mentioned earlier that we saw in Q4 did begin to impact price growth in the quarter. Looking at the right side of the slide, the rental market remains challenging for tenants, with national rents reaching new highs in the June quarter.
Speaker #3: Rental vacancies have slightly increased, which will support tenants. However, an anticipated decrease in investor demand is likely to put renewed pressure on rents. Just looking at some of our business highlights for the year, FY26 was a transformative year where we rapidly extended our AI capability and delivered new experiences and products for our consumers, which I'll talk to you a little bit more about in a moment.
Cameron McIntyre: Just looking at some of our business highlights for the year, FY2026 was a transformative year, where we rapidly extended our AI capability and delivered new experiences and products for our consumers, customers, and brokers, which I'll talk to you a little bit more about in a moment. Our personalized and immersive experiences supported a record 12.7 million monthly realestate.com.au visitors and continued to deepen consumer engagement. 5.2 million unique properties are now tracked by their owners on our platform. We also achieved record Premiere+ penetration in residential and recorded Elite Plus depth penetration in commercial at record levels as well. Finally, last month, we announced the sale of our remaining Indian business, Housing.com, to Aurum PropTech. Aurum has strong capability and local market knowledge, making it well-placed to build on the foundations the Indian team have established over time.
Cameron McIntyre: Just looking at some of our business highlights for the year, FY 2026 was a transformative year, where we rapidly extended our AI capability and delivered new experiences and products for our consumers, customers, and brokers, which I'll talk to you a little bit more about in a moment. Our personalized and immersive experiences supported a record 12.7 million monthly realestate.com.au visitors and continued to deepen consumer engagement. 5.2 million unique properties are now tracked by their owners on our platform. We also achieved record Premiere+ penetration in residential and recorded Elite Plus depth penetration in commercial at record levels as well. Finally, last month, we announced the sale of our remaining Indian business, Housing.com, to Aurum PropTech. Aurum has strong capability and local market knowledge, making it well-placed to build on the foundations the Indian team have established over time.
Speaker #3: Our personalized and immersive experiences supported a record 12.7 million monthly realestate.com.au visitors, and continue to deepen consumer engagement. 5.2 million unique properties are now tracked by their owners on our platform.
Speaker #3: We also achieved record Premier Plus penetration in residential and recorded Elite Plus depth penetration in commercial at record levels as well. And finally, last month we announced the sale of our remaining Indian business, Housing.com, to Aurum PropTech.
Speaker #3: Aurum has strong capability and local market knowledge, making it well placed to build on the foundations the Indian team have established over time. Taking a closer look at our audience levels and high-quality engagement, more people than ever visited our flagship site in FY26—a record 12.7 million people visited the platform each month.
Cameron McIntyre: Taking a closer look at our audience levels and high-quality engagement, more people than ever visited our flagship site in FY26. A record 12.7 million people visited the platform each month. That's 5.2 million more than our nearest competitor. The real value in our large-scale audience lies in the deep engagement with our consumers. The size of our audience has continued to grow over the last 2 years, and key engagement metrics have also strengthened. The quality of the realestate.com.au experience and the strength of our brand ensures Australians continually return to our platform. Consumers spend more time on our platform than any other property site, and across the year, we achieved a record 146 million average monthly visits.
Cameron McIntyre: Taking a closer look at our audience levels and high-quality engagement, more people than ever visited our flagship site in FY 2026. A record 12.7 million people visited the platform each month. That's 5.2 million more than our nearest competitor. The real value in our large-scale audience lies in the deep engagement with our consumers. The size of our audience has continued to grow over the last 2 years, and key engagement metrics have also strengthened. The quality of the realestate.com.au experience and the strength of our brand ensures Australians continually return to our platform. Consumers spend more time on our platform than any other property site, and across the year, we achieved a record 146 million average monthly visits.
Speaker #3: That's 5.2 million more than our nearest competitor. The real value in our large-scale audience lies in the deep engagement with our consumers. The size of our audience has continued to grow over the last two years, and key engagement metrics have also strengthened.
Speaker #3: The quality of the realestate.com.au experience and the strength of our brand ensure Australians continually return to our platform. Consumers spend more time on our platform than any other property site, and across the year we achieved a record 146 million average monthly visits.
Speaker #3: Some of the key sources of our competitive advantage include the size of our audience, our data—which fuels our AI experiences—and firmly position REA as a leading beneficiary of artificial intelligence.
Cameron McIntyre: Some of the key sources of our competitive advantage include the size of our audience, our data, which fuels our AI experiences and firmly positions REA as a leading beneficiary of artificial intelligence. REA has the largest and most engaged property audience in the country. Our unique consumer intent and behavioral data that feeds into each of the proprietary data sets we have is highlighted on this slide. Everyone can see our listings, but only REA can see what's underneath. Our compounding data sets include unmatched consumer intent and behavior, rich property records, the deepest listing and transaction outcomes, the most comprehensive agent workflow and performance data, and unique finance and affordability data. Turning to our consumer experience highlights, our goal to convert our market-leading audience into members remains. Members are more likely to take a high-value action, enhancing the value delivered to our customers.
Cameron McIntyre: Some of the key sources of our competitive advantage include the size of our audience, our data, which fuels our AI experiences and firmly positions REA as a leading beneficiary of artificial intelligence. REA has the largest and most engaged property audience in the country. Our unique consumer intent and behavioral data that feeds into each of the proprietary data sets we have is highlighted on this slide. Everyone can see our listings, but only REA can see what's underneath. Our compounding data sets include unmatched consumer intent and behavior, rich property records, the deepest listing and transaction outcomes, the most comprehensive agent workflow and performance data, and unique finance and affordability data. Turning to our consumer experience highlights, our goal to convert our market-leading audience into members remains. Members are more likely to take a high-value action, enhancing the value delivered to our customers.
Speaker #3: REA has the largest and most engaged property audience in the country. Unique consumer intent and behavioral data feeds into each of the proprietary data sets we have, as highlighted on this slide.
Speaker #3: Everyone can see our listings, but only REA can see what's underneath. Our compounding data sets include unmatched consumer intent and behavior, rich property records, the deepest listing and transaction outcomes, the most comprehensive agent workflow and performance data, and unique finance and affordability data.
Speaker #3: Turning to our consumer experience highlights, our goal to convert our market-leading audience into members remains. Members are more likely to take high-value actions, enhancing the value delivered to our customers.
Speaker #3: New AI-powered features, immersive experiences, plus rich data and content enhanced the membership experience in FY26 and supported a 14% growth in our membership base on PCP.
Cameron McIntyre: New AI-powered features, immersive experiences, plus rich data and content, enhanced the membership experience in FY26 and supported a 14% growth in our membership base on PCP. Powered by our proprietary data, the new AI Assistant experience enables members to ask us anything about property during their search. Search on our platform evolved throughout the year from natural language to conversational. Now the AI Assistant has the power to support people right through the property journey. Consumers can discover properties, check affordability, evaluate, compare, and take action. Members share more about their property objectives with this intelligent search experience, these insights enable us to better meet their needs. It's now available to all members with over 20% of sessions converting to a high-value action, such as saving or sharing a listing. Ultimately, the AI Assistant experience will support the delivery of more valuable leads to our customers.
Cameron McIntyre: New AI-powered features, immersive experiences, plus rich data and content, enhanced the membership experience in FY 2026 and supported a 14% growth in our membership base on PCP. Powered by our proprietary data, the new AI Assistant experience enables members to ask us anything about property during their search. Search on our platform evolved throughout the year from natural language to conversational. Now the AI Assistant has the power to support people right through the property journey. Consumers can discover properties, check affordability, evaluate, compare, and take action. Members share more about their property objectives with this intelligent search experience, these insights enable us to better meet their needs. It's now available to all members with over 20% of sessions converting to a high-value action, such as saving or sharing a listing. Ultimately, the AI Assistant experience will support the delivery of more valuable leads to our customers.
Speaker #3: Powered by our proprietary data, the new AI assistant experience enables members to ask us anything about property during their search. Search on our platform evolves throughout the year, from natural language to conversational, and now the AI assistant has the power to support people right through the property journey.
Speaker #3: Consumers can discover properties, check affordability, evaluate, compare, and take action. Members share more about their property objectives with this intelligent search experience, and these insights enable us to better meet their needs.
Speaker #3: It's now available to all members, with over 20% of sessions converting to a high-value action, such as saving or sharing a listing. Ultimately, the AI assistant experience will support the delivery of more valuable leads to our customers.
Speaker #3: Property seekers are increasingly seeking more immersive and informative search experiences. Our visualization strategy is designed to deeply engage consumers in our content. The upload of iGUIDE 3D tours is accelerating, with around 180 cameras now in market.
Cameron McIntyre: Property seekers are increasingly seeking more immersive and informative search experiences. Our visualization strategy is designed to deeply engage consumers in our content. The upload of iGUIDE 3D tours is accelerating, with around 180 cameras now in market. The feedback from customers continues to be positive, particularly around the superior experience with near zero load time for iGUIDE onto our platform. Turning now to customers, the social media style video hub on our app home screen evolved in July to include listing videos. This is a powerful and high exposure engagement feature for Premiere+ and Luxe listings. It was a key component of our FY27 recontracting. The hub has been a driver in accelerating native video views, with over 2.9 million video hub views since the feature launched in November. Our audience extension offering, Audience Maximiser, puts listings in front of active buyers wherever they browse online.
Cameron McIntyre: Property seekers are increasingly seeking more immersive and informative search experiences. Our visualization strategy is designed to deeply engage consumers in our content. The upload of iGUIDE 3D tours is accelerating, with around 180 cameras now in market. The feedback from customers continues to be positive, particularly around the superior experience with near zero load time for iGUIDE onto our platform. Turning now to customers, the social media style video hub on our app home screen evolved in July to include listing videos. This is a powerful and high exposure engagement feature for Premiere+ and Luxe listings. It was a key component of our FY27 recontracting. The hub has been a driver in accelerating native video views, with over 2.9 million video hub views since the feature launched in November. Our audience extension offering, Audience Maximiser, puts listings in front of active buyers wherever they browse online.
Speaker #3: The feedback from customers continues to be positive, particularly around the superior experience with near-zero load time for iGUIDE onto our platform. Turning now to customers, the social media style video hub on our app home screen evolved in July to include listing videos.
Speaker #3: This is a powerful and high-exposure engagement feature for Premier Plus and Luxe listings, and it was a key component of our FY27 recontracting. The hub has been a driver in accelerating native video views, with over 2.9 million Video Hub views since the feature launched in November.
Speaker #3: Our audience extension offering, Audience Maximizer, puts listings in front of active buyers wherever they browse online. Penetration more than doubled on PCP, with customers recognizing the value in our click-based packages and price points, and the new features such as automated video content.
Cameron McIntyre: Penetration more than doubled on PCP, with customers recognizing the value in our click-based packages and price points and the new features such as automated video content. On the right, uptake in our high-performance listing solution, Luxe, continues to accelerate. Immersive content features, improved homepage targeting, and new packages all underpinned increasing penetration. Looking at highlights from our customer platforms and services. In the Q4, we commenced the rollout of our new agentic chat capability in our self-service Ignite platform called Campaign Assist. The feature combines consumer intent and PropTrack-powered AVM data to provide customers with strategic recommendations to boost the performance of a listing. Enhanced brand exposure and access to exclusive products and tools underpin the value of our top-tier Pro subscription. Agency groups continue to recognize this, with several customer groups signing enterprise-wide Pro agreements in FY26.
Cameron McIntyre: Penetration more than doubled on PCP, with customers recognizing the value in our click-based packages and price points and the new features such as automated video content. On the right, uptake in our high-performance listing solution, Luxe, continues to accelerate. Immersive content features, improved homepage targeting, and new packages all underpinned increasing penetration. Looking at highlights from our customer platforms and services. In the Q4, we commenced the rollout of our new agentic chat capability in our self-service Ignite platform called Campaign Assist. The feature combines consumer intent and PropTrack-powered AVM data to provide customers with strategic recommendations to boost the performance of a listing. Enhanced brand exposure and access to exclusive products and tools underpin the value of our top-tier Pro subscription. Agency groups continue to recognize this, with several customer groups signing enterprise-wide Pro agreements in FY26.
Speaker #3: And on the right, uptake in our high-performance listing solution, Luxe, continues to accelerate. Immersive content features, improved homepage targeting, and new packages all underpinned increasing penetration.
Speaker #3: Looking at highlights from our customer platforms and services, in the fourth quarter, we commenced the rollout of our new agentic chat capability in our self-service Ignite platform, called Campaign Assist.
Speaker #3: The feature combines consumer intent and Proptech-powered ABM data to provide customers with strategic recommendations to boost the performance of a listing. Enhanced brand exposure and access to exclusive products and tools underpin the value of our top-tier Pro subscription.
Speaker #3: Agency groups continue to recognize this, with several customer groups signing enterprise-wide Pro agreements in FY26. The total number of customers with a Pro subscription also more than doubled on the prior year.
Cameron McIntyre: The total number of customers with a Pro subscription also more than doubled on the prior year. Underpinning the value for all our customers is access to our Ignite platform and monthly active users increased 17% on PCP. Our commercial platform delivered record audience with 2.9 million Australians visiting out the platform on average each month. The experiences, features, and engaging content supported audience growth, including points of interest maps on listings, new demographic data, and the integration of iGUIDE. Our top-tier commercial product, Elite Plus, achieved record penetration, and the value of Ignite continued to increase. Almost 90% of commercial agencies have been onboarded to Ignite, and we saw 109% PCP growth in monthly active users. Turning to financial services and product innovation and brand investment supported good revenue growth here.
Cameron McIntyre: The total number of customers with a Pro subscription also more than doubled on the prior year. Underpinning the value for all our customers is access to our Ignite platform and monthly active users increased 17% on PCP. Our commercial platform delivered record audience with 2.9 million Australians visiting out the platform on average each month. The experiences, features, and engaging content supported audience growth, including points of interest maps on listings, new demographic data, and the integration of iGUIDE. Our top-tier commercial product, Elite Plus, achieved record penetration, and the value of Ignite continued to increase. Almost 90% of commercial agencies have been onboarded to Ignite, and we saw 109% PCP growth in monthly active users. Turning to financial services and product innovation and brand investment supported good revenue growth here.
Speaker #3: Underpinning the value for all our customers is access to our Ignite platform, and monthly active users increased 17% on PCP. Our commercial platform delivered a record audience, with 2.9 million Australians visiting the platform on average each month.
Speaker #3: The experiences, features, and engaging content supported audience growth, including points of interest maps on listings, new demographic data, and the integration of iGUIDE. Our top-tier commercial product, Elite Plus, achieved record penetration, and the value of Ignite continued to increase.
Speaker #3: Almost 90% of commercial agencies have been onboarded to Ignite, and we saw 109% PCP growth in monthly active users. Turning to financial services, product innovation and brand investment supported good revenue growth here. Enhancements in our finance experience on our platform supported the delivery of quality leads to Mortgage Choice brokers, with settlements from REA leads up 30% on PCP.
Cameron McIntyre: Enhancements in our finance experience on our platform supported the delivery of quality leads to Mortgage Choice brokers, with settlements from REA leads up 30% on PCP. Continued investment in our core broking platforms and in AI training and tools delivered greater value too, with 50% of our brokers now using AI agents to efficiently automate processes. In June, we acquired a 70% interest in commercial finance brokerage Simplicity, diversifying our financial services business. REA is an AI prime organization. In FY26, we introduced a coordinated approach to expanding AI tools and scaling agent-augmented teams that we're calling Flow Lab. Flow Lab experimentation is re-engineering product delivery at REA and is supporting the expansion of our suite of AI tools and platforms that optimize return on investment. Utilizing agentic AI throughout product development end-to-end, we're able to validate what works and what doesn't within hours.
Cameron McIntyre: Enhancements in our finance experience on our platform supported the delivery of quality leads to Mortgage Choice brokers, with settlements from REA leads up 30% on PCP. Continued investment in our core broking platforms and in AI training and tools delivered greater value too, with 50% of our brokers now using AI agents to efficiently automate processes. In June, we acquired a 70% interest in commercial finance brokerage Simplicity, diversifying our financial services business. REA is an AI prime organization. In FY26, we introduced a coordinated approach to expanding AI tools and scaling agent-augmented teams that we're calling Flow Lab. Flow Lab experimentation is re-engineering product delivery at REA and is supporting the expansion of our suite of AI tools and platforms that optimize return on investment. Utilizing agentic AI throughout product development end-to-end, we're able to validate what works and what doesn't within hours.
Speaker #3: Continued investment in our core broking platforms and in AI training and tools delivered greater value too, with 50% of our brokers now using AI agents to efficiently automate processes.
Speaker #3: In June, we acquired a 70% interest in commercial finance brokerage Simplicity, diversifying our financial services business. REA is an AI-prime organization. In FY26, we introduced a coordinated approach to expanding AI tools and scaling agent-augmented teams that we're calling FlowLab.
Speaker #3: FlowLab experimentation is re-engineering product delivery at REA and is supporting the expansion of our suite of AI tools and platforms that optimize return on investment.
Speaker #3: Utilizing agentic AI throughout product development, end to end, we're able to validate what works and what doesn't within hours. Previously, this would take weeks or months.
Cameron McIntyre: Previously, this would take weeks or months. The initial trial within our Realtair business accelerated speed with the agentic-first team delivering planned work 2.6 times faster. We think this is just the start. In FY27, we'll continue to scale this experiment with our agent-augmented team model across our tech workforce. Rewiring our engineering teams through Flow Lab is beginning to release capacity of our people and will enable us to reinvest in our highest value growth priorities. It supports faster time to market, capacity to invest in emerging revenue streams, while opening opportunities to invest in new TAMs and providing more flex in our cost base. Looking at some of our international highlights, we announced the acquisition of a controlling stake in Canadian-based Planitar Inc., the maker of iGUIDE. That was last October.
Cameron McIntyre: Previously, this would take weeks or months. The initial trial within our Realtair business accelerated speed with the agentic-first team delivering planned work 2.6 times faster. We think this is just the start. In FY27, we'll continue to scale this experiment with our agent-augmented team model across our tech workforce. Rewiring our engineering teams through Flow Lab is beginning to release capacity of our people and will enable us to reinvest in our highest value growth priorities. It supports faster time to market, capacity to invest in emerging revenue streams, while opening opportunities to invest in new TAMs and providing more flex in our cost base. Looking at some of our international highlights, we announced the acquisition of a controlling stake in Canadian-based Planitar Inc., the maker of iGUIDE. That was last October.
Speaker #3: The initial trial within our Realtor business accelerated speed, with the agentic-first team delivering planned work 2.6 times faster. We think this is just the start, and in FY27, we'll continue to scale this experiment with our agent-augmented team model across our tech workforce.
Speaker #3: Rewiring our engineering teams through FlowLab is beginning to release capacity for our people, and will enable us to reinvest in our highest-value growth priorities.
Speaker #3: It supports faster time-to-market, capacity to invest in emerging revenue streams, while opening opportunities to invest in new TAMs, and providing more flexibility in our cost base.
Speaker #3: Looking at some of our international highlights, we announced the acquisition of a controlling stake in Canadian-based Planetaire, Inc., the maker of iGUIDE. That was last October.
Speaker #3: In FY26, iGUIDE grew locally in local currency revenues by 26%, with growth in its residential construction and commercial markets. In the US market, REA has a 20% interest in Move, operator of Realtor.com.
Cameron McIntyre: In FY2026, iGUIDE grew in local currency revenues by 26%, with growth in its residential, construction, and commercial markets. In the US market, REA has a 20% interest in Move, operator of realtor.com. Realtor is rapidly scaling its AI-first consumer experience as well. Its new conversational tool is proving highly engaging for serious buyers, with consumers treating the product as a trusted advisor rather than just a traditional search tool. Move revenues increased 11%, and its equity accounted loss of AUD 14 million reflected an AUD 5 million improvement on prior year. Before I hand over to Andrew, I'd like to share a few comments on the market as we look ahead. Market fundamentals remain solid, and we can see consumers are still there closely monitoring the market through our traffic and engagement. Interest rates, however, are the biggest factor contributing to current market uncertainty at the moment.
Cameron McIntyre: In FY2026, iGUIDE grew in local currency revenues by 26%, with growth in its residential, construction, and commercial markets. In the US market, REA has a 20% interest in Move, operator of realtor.com. Realtor is rapidly scaling its AI-first consumer experience as well. Its new conversational tool is proving highly engaging for serious buyers, with consumers treating the product as a trusted advisor rather than just a traditional search tool. Move revenues increased 11%, and its equity accounted loss of AUD 14 million reflected an AUD 5 million improvement on prior year. Before I hand over to Andrew, I'd like to share a few comments on the market as we look ahead. Market fundamentals remain solid, and we can see consumers are still there closely monitoring the market through our traffic and engagement. Interest rates, however, are the biggest factor contributing to current market uncertainty at the moment.
Speaker #3: Realtor is rapidly scaling its AI-first consumer experience as well. Its new conversational tool is proving highly engaging for serious buyers, with consumers treating the product as a trusted advisor.
Speaker #3: Rather than just a traditional search tool, Move revenues increased 11%, and its equity-accounted loss of $14 million reflected a $5 million improvement on the prior year.
Speaker #3: Before I hand over to Andrew, I'd like to share a few comments on the market as we look ahead. Market fundamentals remain solid, and we can see consumers are still there, closely monitoring the market through our traffic and engagement.
Speaker #3: Interest rates, however, are the biggest factor contributing to current market uncertainty at the moment. It's likely that we're at or near the peak of the interest rate cycle, we believe. But the most recent rate rises, along with the federal government budget tax changes, have impacted buyer sentiment in recent months.
Cameron McIntyre: It's likely that we're at or near the peak of the interest rate cycle, we believe, but the most recent rate rises, along with the federal government budget tax changes, have impacted buyer sentiment in recent months. In listings, Sydney and Melbourne led new listings volumes in FY2026, but we're starting to see Brisbane, Perth, and Adelaide outperform. The market is still recalibrating post-budget, but once the dust settles and interest rates stabilize, we expect consumer confidence to improve and buyers to become more active, particularly looking towards H2. Finally, REA has entered the new financial year with a healthy balance sheet, strong product pipeline, sustained strength in our core business, and a talented team doing an excellent job. With that, I'll now hand over to Mr. Cramer to take us through the financials in more detail.
Cameron McIntyre: It's likely that we're at or near the peak of the interest rate cycle, we believe, but the most recent rate rises, along with the federal government budget tax changes, have impacted buyer sentiment in recent months. In listings, Sydney and Melbourne led new listings volumes in FY2026, but we're starting to see Brisbane, Perth, and Adelaide outperform. The market is still recalibrating post-budget, but once the dust settles and interest rates stabilize, we expect consumer confidence to improve and buyers to become more active, particularly looking towards H2. Finally, REA has entered the new financial year with a healthy balance sheet, strong product pipeline, sustained strength in our core business, and a talented team doing an excellent job. With that, I'll now hand over to Mr. Cramer to take us through the financials in more detail.
Speaker #3: In listings, Sydney- and Melbourne-led new listings volumes in FY26, but we're starting to see Brisbane, Perth, and Adelaide outperform. The market is still recalibrating post-budget, but once the dust settles and interest rates stabilize, we expect consumer confidence to improve, and buyers to become more active, particularly looking towards H2.
Speaker #3: And finally, REA has entered the new financial year with a healthy balance sheet, a strong product pipeline, sustained strength in our core business, and a talented team doing an excellent job.
Speaker #3: And with that, I'll now hand over to Mr. Cramer to take us through the financials in more detail.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Cam, and good morning, everyone. REA has delivered excellent full-year results. With a focus on controlling the controllables, we've been able to drive value to our customers, double-digit yield growth, a heightened focus on cost management, and a renewed discipline around capital allocation.
Andrew Cramer: Thank you, Cam. Good morning, everyone. REA has delivered excellent full-year results. With a focus on controlling the controllables, we've been able to drive value to our customers, double-digit yield growth, a heightened focus on cost management, and a renewed discipline around capital allocation. Taken together, this has seen REA deliver strong double-digit EPS growth despite flat listings across the year. It has also seen us exit REA India and the resultant improvement in EPS and free cash flow. From our operations, revenue increased 7% to AUD 1.79 billion. EBITDA, excluding associates of AUD 1.09 billion, was up 12%. NPAT of AUD 650 million was up 15%. EPS of AUD 4.93 was up 15%, and free cash flow of AUD 628 million was up 17%. As CFO, it is pleasing to see those prior corresponding period growth rates increase as we move from revenue to EBITDA and down to NPAT and free cash flow.
Andrew Cramer: Thank you, Cam. Good morning, everyone. REA has delivered excellent full-year results. With a focus on controlling the controllables, we've been able to drive value to our customers, double-digit yield growth, a heightened focus on cost management, and a renewed discipline around capital allocation. Taken together, this has seen REA deliver strong double-digit EPS growth despite flat listings across the year. It has also seen us exit REA India and the resultant improvement in EPS and free cash flow. From our operations, revenue increased 7% to AUD 1.79 billion. EBITDA, excluding associates of AUD 1.09 billion, was up 12%. NPAT of AUD 650 million was up 15%. EPS of AUD 4.93 was up 15%, and free cash flow of AUD 628 million was up 17%. As CFO, it is pleasing to see those prior corresponding period growth rates increase as we move from revenue to EBITDA and down to NPAT and free cash flow.
Speaker #1: Taken together, this has seen REA deliver strong double-digit EPS growth, despite flat listings across the year. It has also seen us exit REA India, and the resultant improvement in EPS and free cash flow.
Speaker #1: From our corporations, revenue increased 7% to $1.79 billion. EBITDA excluding associates of $1.09 billion was up 12%. NPAT of $650 million was up 15%. EPS of $4.93 was up 15%, and free cash flow of $628 million was up 17%.
Speaker #1: As CFO, it is pleasing to see those prior corresponding period growth rates increase as we move from revenue to EBITDA, and down to NPAT and free cash flow.
Speaker #1: With the July announcement of the sale of Housing.com, India is now treated as a discontinued business. If we look at the performance for fiscal '26 on a continuing business basis, then revenue and EBITDA increased 12%, NPAT and EPS 14%, and free cash flow 18%.
Andrew Cramer: With the July announcement of the sale of Housing.com, India is now treated as a discontinued business. If we look at the performance of fiscal 2026 on a continuing business basis, then revenue and EBITDA increased 12%, NPAT and EPS 14%, and free cash flow 18%. Pleasingly, REA has delivered EPS growth through the cycle with an EPS CAGR of 12% over the last four years, despite fiscal 2023 being one of the worst cyclical downturns we have experienced in Australia. Slide 25 outlines both our core financial results, which include India, and our results on a continuing business basis with India excluded. Slide 26 provides a summary of the reconciliation between the core and statutory results with several one-off items excluded.
Andrew Cramer: With the July announcement of the sale of Housing.com, India is now treated as a discontinued business. If we look at the performance of fiscal 2026 on a continuing business basis, then revenue and EBITDA increased 12%, NPAT and EPS 14%, and free cash flow 18%. Pleasingly, REA has delivered EPS growth through the cycle with an EPS CAGR of 12% over the last four years, despite fiscal 2023 being one of the worst cyclical downturns we have experienced in Australia. Slide 25 outlines both our core financial results, which include India, and our results on a continuing business basis with India excluded. Slide 26 provides a summary of the reconciliation between the core and statutory results with several one-off items excluded.
Speaker #1: Pleasingly, REA has delivered EPS growth through the cycle, with an EPS CAGR of 12% over the last four years, despite fiscal '23 being one of the worst cyclical downturns we have experienced in Australia.
Speaker #1: Slide 25 outlines both our core financial results, which include India, and our results on a continuing business basis with India excluded. Slide 26 provides a summary of the reconciliation between the core and statutory results, with several one-off items excluded.
Speaker #1: The most material adjustments are the $111 million write-down of REA India in fiscal '26, and the $117 million impairment reversal on the divestiture of PropertyGuru in fiscal '25.
Andrew Cramer: The most material adjustments are the AUD 111 million write-down of REA India in fiscal 2026, and the AUD 117 million impairment reversal on the divestiture of PropertyGuru in fiscal 2025. Turning to slide 27, our Australian residential business had another strong year, delivering 12% revenue growth. National buy listings were flat across fiscal 2026, with growth rates improving each quarter as comparables became easier. The flat outcome was marginally better than our anticipated range of -1% to -3%, reflecting a stronger than expected Q4. As a result, we've seen revenue deferrals of 1% into Q1 fiscal 2027. While Sydney and Melbourne outperformed the broader market in fiscal 2026, up 3% and 4% respectively, pleasingly, we saw a recovery in other markets during the Q4. Brisbane, Perth, and Adelaide were up a combined 17%, while Melbourne and Sydney were up 8%.
Andrew Cramer: The most material adjustments are the AUD 111 million write-down of REA India in fiscal 2026, and the AUD 117 million impairment reversal on the divestiture of PropertyGuru in fiscal 2025. Turning to slide 27, our Australian residential business had another strong year, delivering 12% revenue growth. National buy listings were flat across fiscal 2026, with growth rates improving each quarter as comparables became easier. The flat outcome was marginally better than our anticipated range of -1% to -3%, reflecting a stronger than expected Q4. As a result, we've seen revenue deferrals of 1% into Q1 fiscal 2027. While Sydney and Melbourne outperformed the broader market in fiscal 2026, up 3% and 4% respectively, pleasingly, we saw a recovery in other markets during the Q4. Brisbane, Perth, and Adelaide were up a combined 17%, while Melbourne and Sydney were up 8%.
Speaker #1: Turning to slide 27, our Australian Residential business had another strong year, delivering 12% revenue growth. National buy listings were flat across fiscal '26, with growth rates improving each quarter as comparables became easier.
Speaker #1: The flat outcome was marginally better than our anticipated range of negative 1% to negative 3%, reflecting a stronger-than-expected fourth quarter. As a result, we've seen revenue deferrals of 1% into Q1 fiscal '27.
Speaker #1: While Sydney and Melbourne outperformed the broader market in fiscal 2026, up 3% and 4% respectively, pleasingly, we saw a recovery in other markets during the fourth quarter.
Speaker #1: Brisbane, Perth, and Adelaide were up a combined 17%, while Melbourne and Sydney were up 8%. Buy yield was strong, up 13%, and in line with our guidance. This was driven by a 7% average Premier Plus price rise, growth in add-ons—AMAX in particular, but also Lux—increased subscription revenues, and increased debt penetration.
Andrew Cramer: Buy yield was strong, up 13% and in line with our guidance. This was driven by a 7% average Premiere+ price rise, growth in add-ons, AMAX in particular, but also Luxe, increased subscription revenues, and increased depth penetration. Geo mix had a neutral impact across the full year, resulting in controllable yields being in line with reported buy yield at 13%. However, as is often the case, geo mix was volatile during the year, with Q1 neutral, Q2 up 2%, Q3 up 1%, and in Q4, we saw geo mix turn negative as markets like Brisbane and Perth recovered and outpaced Melbourne and Sydney. Geo mix was down 2% in Q4. The following slide shows both the penetration and mix of paid listings in the residential business, together with the penetration of the Audience Maximiser and Luxe add-ons.
Andrew Cramer: Buy yield was strong, up 13% and in line with our guidance. This was driven by a 7% average Premiere+ price rise, growth in add-ons, AMAX in particular, but also Luxe, increased subscription revenues, and increased depth penetration. Geo mix had a neutral impact across the full year, resulting in controllable yields being in line with reported buy yield at 13%. However, as is often the case, geo mix was volatile during the year, with Q1 neutral, Q2 up 2%, Q3 up 1%, and in Q4, we saw geo mix turn negative as markets like Brisbane and Perth recovered and outpaced Melbourne and Sydney. Geo mix was down 2% in Q4. The following slide shows both the penetration and mix of paid listings in the residential business, together with the penetration of the Audience Maximiser and Luxe add-ons.
Speaker #1: GeoMix had a neutral impact across the full year, resulting in controllable yield being in line with reported buy yield at 13%. However, as is often the case, GeoMix was volatile during the year, with Q1 neutral, Q2 up 2%, Q3 up 1%, and in Q4 we saw GeoMix turn negative, as markets like Brisbane and Perth recovered and outpaced Melbourne and Sydney.
Speaker #1: GeoMix was down 2% in Q4. The following slide shows both the penetration and mix of paid listings in the residential business, together with the penetration of the Audience Maximiser and LUX add-ons.
Speaker #1: Pleasingly, we saw continued growth in overall debt penetration and continued tiering up to Premier Plus. Performance of our social media product, Audience Maximiser, was also very strong.
Andrew Cramer: Pleasingly, we saw continued growth in overall depth penetration and continued tiering up to Premiere+. Performance of our social media product, Audience Maximiser, was also very strong, with the introduction of new tiers and bundles resulting in penetration more than doubling in fiscal 2026. While it is still early days for Luxe, we've seen penetration more than triple, and we continue to see Luxe taken up across properties of all values. Around 70% of Luxe listings today are on properties with a value of less than AUD 3 million. Of those, more than 15% on properties with a value below the AUD 1 million mark. Commercial and new homes revenue growth almost hit double digits for the full year, delivering 9% revenue growth on the prior corresponding period, up to AUD 238 million of combined revenue.
Andrew Cramer: Pleasingly, we saw continued growth in overall depth penetration and continued tiering up to Premiere+. Performance of our social media product, Audience Maximiser, was also very strong, with the introduction of new tiers and bundles resulting in penetration more than doubling in fiscal 2026. While it is still early days for Luxe, we've seen penetration more than triple, and we continue to see Luxe taken up across properties of all values. Around 70% of Luxe listings today are on properties with a value of less than AUD 3 million. Of those, more than 15% on properties with a value below the AUD 1 million mark. Commercial and new homes revenue growth almost hit double digits for the full year, delivering 9% revenue growth on the prior corresponding period, up to AUD 238 million of combined revenue.
Speaker #1: With the introduction of new tiers and bundles, we've seen penetration more than double in fiscal '26. While it is still early days for Lux, we've seen penetration more than triple, and we continue to see Lux taken up across properties of all values.
Speaker #1: Around 70% of Lux listings today are on properties with a value of less than $3 million. And of those, more than 15% are on properties with a value below the $1 million mark.
Speaker #1: Commercial and new homes revenue growth almost hit double digits for the full year, delivering 9% revenue growth on the prior corresponding period, up to $238 million of combined revenue.
Speaker #1: Commercial revenue increased by 10%, with yield growth driven by an average 7% price rise and increased depth penetration. Listings were also a positive driver, up 2% for the year.
Andrew Cramer: Commercial revenue increased by 10%, with yield growth driven by an average 7% price rise and increased depth penetration. Listings were also a positive driver, up 2% for the year. Pleasingly, we saw growth in all major asset classes, including office, industrial, and retail. New homes revenue was up 9% on the prior corresponding period, driven by a 6% increase in project profile volumes, growth in average yield, and higher display revenues. Financial services, led by Anthony Waldron and his talented team, has had an excellent year, with revenue up 11% to AUD 114 million and EBITDA increasing 20% year-over-year. Mortgage Choice revenues were up 10%, benefiting from a 13% increase in settlements, partially offset by higher broker payout rates. PropTrack revenues grew 13% through new customer data contracts. The financial services segment also benefited from one month of Simplicity, the commercial broking business we acquired in June 2026.
Andrew Cramer: Commercial revenue increased by 10%, with yield growth driven by an average 7% price rise and increased depth penetration. Listings were also a positive driver, up 2% for the year. Pleasingly, we saw growth in all major asset classes, including office, industrial, and retail. New homes revenue was up 9% on the prior corresponding period, driven by a 6% increase in project profile volumes, growth in average yield, and higher display revenues. Financial services, led by Anthony Waldron and his talented team, has had an excellent year, with revenue up 11% to AUD 114 million and EBITDA increasing 20% year-over-year. Mortgage Choice revenues were up 10%, benefiting from a 13% increase in settlements, partially offset by higher broker payout rates. PropTrack revenues grew 13% through new customer data contracts. The financial services segment also benefited from one month of Simplicity, the commercial broking business we acquired in June 2026.
Speaker #1: Pleasingly, we saw growth in all major asset classes, including office, industrial, and retail. New homes revenue was up 9% on the prior corresponding period, driven by a 6% increase in project profile volumes, growth in average yield, and high display revenues.
Speaker #1: Financial Services, led by Anthony Waldron and his talented team, has had an excellent year, with revenue up 11% to $114 million and EBITDA increasing 20% year over year.
Speaker #1: Mortgage Choice revenues were up 10%, benefiting from a 13% increase in settlements, partially offset by higher broker payout rates. PropTrack revenues grew 13% through new customer data contracts.
Speaker #1: The financial services segment also benefited from one month of Simplicity, the commercial broking business we acquired in June 2026. Turning now to our margin, the slide highlights the continuous improvement in Australia’s operating EBITDA margin over the last four years, with our margin increasing to close to 66% in fiscal 2026.
Andrew Cramer: Turning now to our margin. The slide highlights the continuous improvement in Australia's operating EBITDA margin over the last four years, with our margin increasing to close to 66% in fiscal 2026. This has been driven by double-digit revenue growth in Australia, up 11% this year, and a deceleration of cost growth to 7%, reflecting tighter cost management in the second half of the year. The differential between Australian revenue and Australian cost CAGRs, or JAWS, is as wide as it has been at these revenue growth rates since 2021. We will continue to invest in the business as top-line revenue growth is paramount, but we will continue to be disciplined in relation to costs. Australia's 7% operating cost growth included double-digit growth in cost of goods sold, in marketing, and in technology, offset by moderation in labor cost growth.
Andrew Cramer: Turning now to our margin. The slide highlights the continuous improvement in Australia's operating EBITDA margin over the last four years, with our margin increasing to close to 66% in fiscal 2026. This has been driven by double-digit revenue growth in Australia, up 11% this year, and a deceleration of cost growth to 7%, reflecting tighter cost management in the second half of the year. The differential between Australian revenue and Australian cost CAGRs, or JAWS, is as wide as it has been at these revenue growth rates since 2021. We will continue to invest in the business as top-line revenue growth is paramount, but we will continue to be disciplined in relation to costs. Australia's 7% operating cost growth included double-digit growth in cost of goods sold, in marketing, and in technology, offset by moderation in labor cost growth.
Speaker #1: This has been driven by double-digit revenue growth in Australia, up 11% this year, and a deceleration of cost growth to 7%, reflecting tighter cost management in the second half of the year.
Speaker #1: The differential between Australian revenue and Australian cost CAGRs, or JAWs, is as wide as it has been at these revenue growth rates since 2021.
Speaker #1: We will continue to invest in the business, as top-line revenue growth is paramount, but we will continue to be disciplined in relation to costs.
Speaker #1: Australia's 7% operating cost growth included double-digit growth in cost of goods sold, in marketing, and in technology, offset by moderation in labour cost growth. Labour cost growth slowed to 3% across the full year.
Andrew Cramer: Labor cost growth slowed to 3% across the full year, with typical wage inflation offset by a modest reduction in headcount and the ongoing structural shift to utilize our centers of excellence in Manila and Cyber City, India. The increase in COGS reflected the more than doubling in penetration of our Audience Maximiser social media add-on. Higher marketing costs were in part due to the timing of Ready25, which was not in the prior year, and the investment made in our new Australian Open sponsorship. As expected, technology costs increased due to price rises and investment in AI. Excluding COGS, Australian operating costs increased only 5%. REA has had a strong and consistent track record of investment in product development to drive better consumer experiences and deliver more value to our customers.
Andrew Cramer: Labor cost growth slowed to 3% across the full year, with typical wage inflation offset by a modest reduction in headcount and the ongoing structural shift to utilize our centers of excellence in Manila and Cyber City, India. The increase in COGS reflected the more than doubling in penetration of our Audience Maximiser social media add-on. Higher marketing costs were in part due to the timing of Ready25, which was not in the prior year, and the investment made in our new Australian Open sponsorship. As expected, technology costs increased due to price rises and investment in AI. Excluding COGS, Australian operating costs increased only 5%. REA has had a strong and consistent track record of investment in product development to drive better consumer experiences and deliver more value to our customers.
Speaker #1: With typical wage inflation offset by a modest reduction in headcount, and the ongoing structural shift to utilise our Centres of Excellence in Manila and Cyber City, India.
Speaker #1: The increase in COGS reflected the more than doubling in penetration of our Audience Maximiser, social media add-on. Higher marketing costs were in part due to the timing of Ready 25, which was not in the prior year, and the investment made in our new Australian Open sponsorship.
Speaker #1: As expected, technology costs increased due to price rises and investment in AI. Excluding COGS, Australian operating costs increased only 5%. REA has had a strong and consistent track record of investment in product development to drive better consumer experiences and deliver more value to our customers.
Speaker #1: In fiscal '26, this investment included a number of new products and experiences across all lines of business, with a focus on AI, video, and platform health.
Andrew Cramer: In fiscal 2026, this investment included a number of new products and experiences across all lines of business, with a focus on AI, video, and platform health. CapEx to revenue in Australia was 7.6% in fiscal 2026, and we anticipate fiscal 2027 to again be within our stated 7% to 9% target range. Turning to slide 34 on our cash position. We ended the year with a cash balance of AUD 366 million. The group delivered free cash flow of AUD 628 million, up 17%. This allowed us to continue to invest in the business both organically and inorganically, and to deliver strong shareholder returns, with AUD 546 million returned to shareholders during the year comprising of REA's inaugural share buyback of AUD 200 million, with stock bought back at a volume weighted average price of AUD 159 and AUD 346 million returned via dividends paid during the year.
Andrew Cramer: In fiscal 2026, this investment included a number of new products and experiences across all lines of business, with a focus on AI, video, and platform health. CapEx to revenue in Australia was 7.6% in fiscal 2026, and we anticipate fiscal 2027 to again be within our stated 7% to 9% target range. Turning to slide 34 on our cash position. We ended the year with a cash balance of AUD 366 million. The group delivered free cash flow of AUD 628 million, up 17%. This allowed us to continue to invest in the business both organically and inorganically, and to deliver strong shareholder returns, with AUD 546 million returned to shareholders during the year comprising of REA's inaugural share buyback of AUD 200 million, with stock bought back at a volume weighted average price of AUD 159 and AUD 346 million returned via dividends paid during the year.
Speaker #1: CapEx to revenue in Australia was 7.6% in fiscal '26, and we anticipate fiscal '27 to again be within our stated 7% to 9% target range.
Speaker #1: Turning to slide 34 and our cash position, we ended the year with a cash balance of $366 million. The Group delivered free cash flow of $628 million, up 17%.
Speaker #1: This allowed us to continue to invest in the business both organically and inorganically, and to deliver strong shareholder returns. We returned $546 million to shareholders during the year, comprising REA's inaugural share buyback of $200 million, with stock bought back at a volume-weighted average price of $159, and $346 million returned via dividends paid during the year.
Speaker #1: We are also pleased to announce an increase in our final dividend by 25%, bringing our full-year dividend to $2.97, an increase of 20% for the full year.
Andrew Cramer: We are also pleased to announce an increase in our final dividend by 25% to bring our full year dividend to AUD 2.97, an increase of 20% for the full year. Pleasingly, the growth in dividends outpaced the growth in EPS as we increased returns to shareholders in the form of a higher dividend payout ratio. Our balance sheet is incredibly healthy and we believe we are balancing nicely, returning capital to our shareholders while also maintaining flexibility and optionality for future growth opportunities. Finally, turning to the outlook for fiscal 2027. Owing to higher-than-expected listings in Q4 fiscal 2026, new national buyer listings are anticipated to be flat to down low single digits in fiscal 2027. July listings were 2% lower on the prior corresponding period, but in line with the 8-year average. Combined Melbourne and Sydney listings declined by 16%, while Brisbane, Perth, and Adelaide increased by 13%.
Andrew Cramer: We are also pleased to announce an increase in our final dividend by 25% to bring our full year dividend to AUD 2.97, an increase of 20% for the full year. Pleasingly, the growth in dividends outpaced the growth in EPS as we increased returns to shareholders in the form of a higher dividend payout ratio. Our balance sheet is incredibly healthy and we believe we are balancing nicely, returning capital to our shareholders while also maintaining flexibility and optionality for future growth opportunities. Finally, turning to the outlook for fiscal 2027. Owing to higher-than-expected listings in Q4 fiscal 2026, new national buyer listings are anticipated to be flat to down low single digits in fiscal 2027. July listings were 2% lower on the prior corresponding period, but in line with the 8-year average. Combined Melbourne and Sydney listings declined by 16%, while Brisbane, Perth, and Adelaide increased by 13%.
Speaker #1: Pleasingly, the growth in dividends outpaced the growth in EPS, as we increased returns to shareholders in the form of a higher dividend payout ratio.
Speaker #1: Our balance sheet is incredibly healthy, and we believe we are balancing nicely—returning capital to our shareholders while also maintaining flexibility and optionality for future growth opportunities.
Speaker #1: Finally, turning to the outlook for fiscal '27, owing to higher-than-expected listings in Q4, fiscal '26, new national buyer listings are anticipated to be flat to down low single digits in fiscal '27.
Speaker #1: July listings were 2% lower than the prior corresponding period, but in line with the eight-year average. Combined Melbourne and Sydney listings declined by 16%, while Brisbane, Perth, and Adelaide increased by 13%.
Speaker #1: The group anticipates controllable residential buyer yield growth, excluding the impact of geographical mix, in the low double digits. This is driven by an 8% Premier Plus price rise and growth in add-ons.
Andrew Cramer: The group anticipates controllable residential buyer yield growth, excluding the impact of geographical mix in the low double digits, driven by an 8% Premiere+ price rise and growth in add-ons. As is often the case, geo mix across the full year will be the main swing factor when we reported fiscal 2027 buyer yield ultimately lands. We will continue to target operational margin expansion. Excluding the iGUIDE and Simplicity acquisitions, ex M&A, operating costs are expected to increase mid-single digits for both Australia and the group. Group operating costs, including M&A, are expected to increase mid to high single digits in fiscal 2027 on a continuing business basis, excluding India, off a base of AUD 609 million in fiscal 2026. Contributions from associates are expected to improve modestly compared to the prior corresponding period. In closing, I wanted to reiterate how pleased we are with these results.
Andrew Cramer: The group anticipates controllable residential buyer yield growth, excluding the impact of geographical mix in the low double digits, driven by an 8% Premiere+ price rise and growth in add-ons. As is often the case, geo mix across the full year will be the main swing factor when we reported fiscal 2027 buyer yield ultimately lands. We will continue to target operational margin expansion. Excluding the iGUIDE and Simplicity acquisitions, ex M&A, operating costs are expected to increase mid-single digits for both Australia and the group. Group operating costs, including M&A, are expected to increase mid to high single digits in fiscal 2027 on a continuing business basis, excluding India, off a base of AUD 609 million in fiscal 2026. Contributions from associates are expected to improve modestly compared to the prior corresponding period. In closing, I wanted to reiterate how pleased we are with these results.
Speaker #1: As is often the case, geo-mix across the full year will be the main swing factor when where reported fiscal '27 buyer yield ultimately lands.
Speaker #1: We will continue to target operational margin expansion. Excluding the Eyeguidance and Simplicity acquisitions, XM&A, operating costs are expected to increase in the mid-single digits for both Australia and the Group.
Speaker #1: Group operating costs, including M&A, are expected to increase mid to high single digits in fiscal 2027 on a continuing business basis, excluding India, off a base of $609 million in fiscal 2026.
Speaker #1: Contributions from associates are expected to improve modestly compared to the prior corresponding period. In closing, I want to reiterate how pleased we are with these results.
Speaker #1: The results are a product of the thoughtfulness, focus, discipline, and hard work of a very strong team at REA. For the second year in a row, REA has delivered strong double-digit EPS growth in a broadly flat listings environment.
Andrew Cramer: The results are a product of the thoughtfulness, the focus, the discipline, and the hard work of a very strong team at REA. For the second year in a row, REA has delivered strong double-digit EPS growth in a broadly flat listings environment. Rest assured we will continue to execute our strategy, we'll continue to focus on controlling the controllables, and we will continue to invest prudently for the long term. I trust you all got a sense earlier from Cam on just how excited we all are by the new opportunities we see leveraging AI to enhance the experiences of our consumers, our customers, our brokers and our employees. We are really looking forward to taking you through all these things in more detail during our Investor Day in October. Operator, could we please open the line for any questions?
Andrew Cramer: The results are a product of the thoughtfulness, the focus, the discipline, and the hard work of a very strong team at REA. For the second year in a row, REA has delivered strong double-digit EPS growth in a broadly flat listings environment. Rest assured we will continue to execute our strategy, we'll continue to focus on controlling the controllables, and we will continue to invest prudently for the long term. I trust you all got a sense earlier from Cam on just how excited we all are by the new opportunities we see leveraging AI to enhance the experiences of our consumers, our customers, our brokers and our employees. We are really looking forward to taking you through all these things in more detail during our Investor Day in October. Operator, could we please open the line for any questions?
Speaker #1: Rest assured, we will continue to execute our strategy; we’ll continue to focus on controlling the controllables, and we will continue to invest prudently for the long term.
Speaker #1: I trust you'll get a sense earlier from Cam on just how excited we all are by the new enhancements to the experiences of our consumers, our customers, our brokers, and our employees.
Speaker #1: We are really looking forward to taking you through all these things in more detail during our Investor Day in October. Operator, could we please open the line for any questions?
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Speaker #2: In fairness to all, we ask that you please limit yourself to three questions. One moment for our first question. Our first question is going to come from the line of Enchil Rankovsky with E&P.
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Speaker #3: Morning, Cam. Morning, Andrew. Martha's question is just around the guidance. And I suppose the one element that you haven't specifically guided on—and, of course, I'm going to pick on it—is the potential geo-mix impact in '25–'27.
Encho Renkovski: Morning, Cam. Morning, Andrew. My first question is just around the guidance and I suppose the one element that you haven't specifically guided on, of course, I'm gonna pick on it, is the potential geo mix impact in FY2027. I appreciate there's probably only so much visibility you've got, but are you able to give us any color on how you're thinking about it in your budgets? I guess if we look at the recent periods, it was most pronounced in FY2023 at -5%. I guess I'm interested in whether you think it could be as bad as that number or whether you think it'll be a more moderate negative impact, perhaps. I've got a couple of others, but I might wait for the answer to that one first.
Encho Renkovski: Morning, Cam. Morning, Andrew. My first question is just around the guidance and I suppose the one element that you haven't specifically guided on, of course, I'm gonna pick on it, is the potential geo mix impact in FY2027. I appreciate there's probably only so much visibility you've got, but are you able to give us any color on how you're thinking about it in your budgets? I guess if we look at the recent periods, it was most pronounced in FY2023 at -5%. I guess I'm interested in whether you think it could be as bad as that number or whether you think it'll be a more moderate negative impact, perhaps. I've got a couple of others, but I might wait for the answer to that one first.
Speaker #3: And I appreciate there's probably only so much visibility you've got, but are you able to give us any color on how you're thinking about it?
Speaker #3: In your budgets, I guess if we look at the recent periods, it was most pronounced in FY23 at minus 5%. I guess I'm interested in whether you think it could be as bad as that number, or whether you think it'll be a more moderate negative impact. Perhaps I've got a couple of others, but I might wait for the answer to that one first.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Enchil. I'll take that one. You're right, it is difficult to forecast geographical mix, and Cam, I've been focused on providing guidance around the things that we can control.
Andrew Cramer: Thanks, Encho. I will take that one. You are right, it is difficult to forecast geographical mix, and Cam and I have been focused on providing guidance around the things that we can control. Controlling the controllables. As it relates to geo mix, your memory is correct. In fiscal 2023, we have had it down -5%, 2024 it was +3%, fiscal 2025 +1%, and last year was flat. Even in the year that we have just had, it bounced around, started at 0%, +2%, +1%, and then finished the year at -2%. I guess, the key takeaway it is volatile, and it is not something that we have a great sense about at this stage, and we will kind of see how the fiscal 2027 year plays out.
Andrew Cramer: Thanks, Encho. I will take that one. You are right, it is difficult to forecast geographical mix, and Cam and I have been focused on providing guidance around the things that we can control. Controlling the controllables. As it relates to geo mix, your memory is correct. In fiscal 2023, we have had it down -5%, 2024 it was +3%, fiscal 2025 +1%, and last year was flat. Even in the year that we have just had, it bounced around, started at 0%, +2%, +1%, and then finished the year at -2%. I guess, the key takeaway it is volatile, and it is not something that we have a great sense about at this stage, and we will kind of see how the fiscal 2027 year plays out.
Speaker #1: So, controlling the controllables as it relates to geo-mix, your memory is correct. In fiscal '23, we found it down negative 5%, but '24 it was plus 3%, fiscal '25 plus 1%, and last year was flat.
Speaker #1: And even in the year that we've just had, it bounced around, starting at zero, plus two, plus one, and then finished the year at negative two.
Speaker #1: So I guess the key takeaway is that it is volatile. And it's not something that we have a great sense about at this stage, and we'll kind of see how the fiscal '27 year plays out.
Speaker #3: Okay, got it. And then on the OPEX side, you've reaffirmed the targets for operational margin expansion. I suppose, if I think about the delta between revenue and OPEX growth, do you see that as limited in any way?
Encho Renkovski: Okay. Got it. On the OpEx side, you have reaffirmed the targets for operational margin expansion. I suppose if I think about the delta between revenue and OpEx growth, do you see that as limited in any way? I am just conscious that, in the past, the company had talked about a 1% to 3% difference between revenue growth and OpEx growth. In your mind, does that still hold? You obviously did a bit better that in FY2026, just how you are thinking about that delta between those numbers.
Encho Renkovski: Okay. Got it. On the OpEx side, you have reaffirmed the targets for operational margin expansion. I suppose if I think about the delta between revenue and OpEx growth, do you see that as limited in any way? I am just conscious that, in the past, the company had talked about a 1% to 3% difference between revenue growth and OpEx growth. In your mind, does that still hold? You obviously did a bit better that in FY2026, just how you are thinking about that delta between those numbers.
Speaker #3: I'm just conscious that in the past, the company had talked about a 1% to 3% difference between revenue growth and OPEX growth. In your mind, does that still hold?
Speaker #3: You obviously did a bit better than in FY26, but just how are you thinking about that delta between those numbers?
Speaker #1: That's a good question, Enchil. So you're right. In fiscal '26, the differential was 4 percentage points, and it's as wide as it has been at that revenue growth level since fiscal '21.
Andrew Cramer: It is a good question, Encho. You are right. In fiscal 2026, the differential was 4 percentage points and it is as wide as it has been at that revenue growth level since fiscal 2021. Really, really happy how the business took on that approach to cost in fiscal 2026. Our guidance for fiscal 2027 is as low on cost as it ever has been, mid-single digits when you strip out India and the impacts of M&A. We feel very comfortable being able to make that guidance to market. We have leaders at our disposal. The offshore centers of excellence we have in Manila and Cyber City, India, give us optionality, as does Flow Lab, which Cam talked to you a little bit about, and we look forward to talking about more at our investor day.
Andrew Cramer: It is a good question, Encho. You are right. In fiscal 2026, the differential was 4 percentage points and it is as wide as it has been at that revenue growth level since fiscal 2021. Really, really happy how the business took on that approach to cost in fiscal 2026. Our guidance for fiscal 2027 is as low on cost as it ever has been, mid-single digits when you strip out India and the impacts of M&A. We feel very comfortable being able to make that guidance to market. We have leaders at our disposal. The offshore centers of excellence we have in Manila and Cyber City, India, give us optionality, as does Flow Lab, which Cam talked to you a little bit about, and we look forward to talking about more at our investor day.
Speaker #1: So, really, really, really happy with how the business took on that approach to cost in fiscal '26. And our guidance for fiscal '27 is as low on cost as it has ever been—mid-single digits when you strip out India and the impacts of M&A.
Speaker #1: We feel very comfortable being able to provide that guidance to the market. We have levers at our disposal, including the offshore centers of excellence we have in Manila and Cyber City, India.
Speaker #1: Give us optionality, as does Flow Lab, which I can talk to you a little bit about, and we look forward to talking about more at our Investor Day.
Speaker #1: That also gives us the opportunity to go faster, which we’re doing, and that’s really the focus. But as needed, that could also allow us to drop some efficiency at the bottom line.
Andrew Cramer: That also gives us the opportunity to go faster, which we are doing, and that is really the focus. As needed, that could also allow us to drop some efficiency to the bottom line. We feel very comfortable with the commitment to operational margin expansion.
Andrew Cramer: That also gives us the opportunity to go faster, which we are doing, and that is really the focus. As needed, that could also allow us to drop some efficiency to the bottom line. We feel very comfortable with the commitment to operational margin expansion.
Speaker #1: So, we feel very comfortable with the commitment to operational margin expansion.
Speaker #3: Cool. Thanks, Andrew. Just a final one. From a capital management point of view — so you haven't reloaded the buyback. Can you talk to the rationale for that?
Encho Renkovski: Cool. Thanks, Andrew. Just a final one. From a capital management point of view, you haven't reloaded the buyback. Can you talk to the rationale for that? I know you talked about optionality, obviously you've got a pretty good cash balance. You also have a substantial franking credits balance. I think it's over AUD 1.1 billion at the moment. Maybe can you comment on whether the board has considered a special dividend as an option?
Encho Renkovski: Cool. Thanks, Andrew. Just a final one. From a capital management point of view, you haven't reloaded the buyback. Can you talk to the rationale for that? I know you talked about optionality, obviously you've got a pretty good cash balance. You also have a substantial franking credits balance. I think it's over AUD 1.1 billion at the moment. Maybe can you comment on whether the board has considered a special dividend as an option?
Speaker #3: I mean, I know you talked about optionality, but obviously you've got a pretty good cash balance, and you also have a substantial franking credits balance.
Speaker #3: I think it's over $1.1 billion at the moment. So maybe, can you comment on whether the Board has considered a special dividend as an option?
Speaker #1: Sure, Andrew. And you're right. I mean, the buyback was new for us, so that was our inaugural buyback. We're really happy with the execution. We bought back $200 million of stock at around $159.
Andrew Cramer: Sure, Andrew. You're right. The buyback was new for us. That was our inaugural buyback. We're really happy with the execution. We bought back AUD 200 million of stock at around AUD 159. It was very well done. You would've noticed in the release this morning that we increased the final dividend by 25%. The payout ratio is up at 60%. We felt like with that combination of things, we're returning just under AUD 550 million of cash to shareholders in the year. The balance sheet's pristine. It's really healthy. We're proud of where that sits, and we think it gives us a great deal of optionality. The franking credit question is an interesting one, too. You're right, we have north of AUD 1 billion of franking credits.
Andrew Cramer: Sure, Andrew. You're right. The buyback was new for us. That was our inaugural buyback. We're really happy with the execution. We bought back AUD 200 million of stock at around AUD 159. It was very well done. You would've noticed in the release this morning that we increased the final dividend by 25%. The payout ratio is up at 60%. We felt like with that combination of things, we're returning just under AUD 550 million of cash to shareholders in the year. The balance sheet's pristine. It's really healthy. We're proud of where that sits, and we think it gives us a great deal of optionality. The franking credit question is an interesting one, too. You're right, we have north of AUD 1 billion of franking credits.
Speaker #1: So it was very well done. And you would have noticed in the release this morning that we increased the final dividend by 25%. So the payout, with that combination of things, we're returning just under $550 million of cash to shareholders in the year. The balance sheet's pristine.
Speaker #1: It's really healthy. We're proud of where that sits, and we think it gives us a great deal of optionality. The franking credit question is an interesting one.
Speaker #1: Too, you're right. We have north of $1 billion of franking credits. I mean, there's a slight nuance to the buyback. Given the low paid-in capital that we have at REA, owing to the heritage of the company, when we buy back stock beyond that level, we have to strain for every dollar—we buy back 42.9 cents.
Andrew Cramer: There's a slight nuance to the buyback, given the low paid-in capital that we have at REA owing to the heritage of the company. When we buy back stock beyond that level, we have to stream for every dollar we buy back, AUD 0.429 of those franking credits get streamed to the ATO and don't get returned to shareholders. It's something we're mindful when we think about the buyback, and it absolutely makes franked dividend probably comparatively more attractive, all things considered.
Andrew Cramer: There's a slight nuance to the buyback, given the low paid-in capital that we have at REA owing to the heritage of the company. When we buy back stock beyond that level, we have to stream for every dollar we buy back, AUD 0.429 of those franking credits get streamed to the ATO and don't get returned to shareholders. It's something we're mindful when we think about the buyback, and it absolutely makes franked dividend probably comparatively more attractive, all things considered.
Speaker #1: Those franking credits get streamed to the ATO and don't get returned to shareholders, so it's something we're mindful of when we think about the buyback.
Speaker #1: And it absolutely makes franked dividends probably comparatively more attractive, all things considered.
Speaker #3: Okay, that's good, Carla. Thank you.
Encho Renkovski: Okay. That's good color. Thank you.
Encho Renkovski: Okay. That's good color. Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Enchil.
Andrew Cramer: Thanks, Andrew.
Andrew Cramer: Thanks, Andrew.
Speaker #2: Thank you. And one moment for our next question. Our next question will be from the line of Eric Choi with Byron Joey. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question will be from the line of Eric Choi with Barrenjoey. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question will be from the line of Eric Choi with Barrenjoey. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: Hi, morning, guys. Could I please ask for you as well? Maybe one on guidance, one on kind of product and new monetization levers, and maybe just a follow-up on cost.
Eric Choi: Hey. Morning, guys. Could I please ask three as well? Maybe one on guidance, one on product and new monetization levers, then maybe just a follow-up on cost. Just the first one. If I look at FY27, relative to the AUD 650 NPAT that you guys did in FY26, consensus is only assuming that grows around 11% to, say, AUD 720 next year. I think with all the information you've given us today, it suggests it should be more like 19% to 20% NPAT growth into FY27. I just wanted to check the very, very simple logic with you, because if you look at your Australian business, it grew EBITDA by AUD 130 million bucks in FY26. Into FY27, there's going to be puts and takes in Australia. Listings might be a bit worse, but your costs is better as well.
Eric Choi: Hey. Morning, guys. Could I please ask three as well? Maybe one on guidance, one on product and new monetization levers, then maybe just a follow-up on cost. Just the first one. If I look at FY27, relative to the AUD 650 NPAT that you guys did in FY26, consensus is only assuming that grows around 11% to, say, AUD 720 next year. I think with all the information you've given us today, it suggests it should be more like 19% to 20% NPAT growth into FY27. I just wanted to check the very, very simple logic with you, because if you look at your Australian business, it grew EBITDA by AUD 130 million bucks in FY26. Into FY27, there's going to be puts and takes in Australia. Listings might be a bit worse, but your costs is better as well.
Speaker #4: But just the first one. If I look at FY27, relative to the $650 million MPAT that you guys did in FY26, consensus is only assuming that grows around 11% to, say, $720 million next year.
Speaker #4: But I think, with all the information you've given us today, it suggests it should be more like 19% to 20% MPAT growth into FY27.
Speaker #4: And I just wanted to check the very, very simple logic with you. Because if you look at your Australian business, it grew, either up or down, by $130 million in FY26.
Speaker #4: And then into FY27, there are going to be puts and takes in Australia. Listings might be a bit worse, but your costs are better as well.
Speaker #4: So, conceivably, the Australian business could grow $130 million at EBITDA again, which is kind of $90 million post-tax. And so, that would be 14% NPAT growth just from Australia already.
Eric Choi: Conceivably, the Australian business could grow at AUD 130 million bucks of EBITDA again, which is kind of AUD 90 million post-tax. That would be 14% NPAT growth just from Australia already. We know India is kind of 5% to 6% NPAT accretive. You've said other associates are also going to improve a bit. You add all that up. Very simple bridge. You're getting 19% to 20% NPAT growth to AUD 770 plus next year. Sorry, should I pause there?
Eric Choi: Conceivably, the Australian business could grow at AUD 130 million bucks of EBITDA again, which is kind of AUD 90 million post-tax. That would be 14% NPAT growth just from Australia already. We know India is kind of 5% to 6% NPAT accretive. You've said other associates are also going to improve a bit. You add all that up. Very simple bridge. You're getting 19% to 20% NPAT growth to AUD 770 plus next year. Sorry, should I pause there?
Speaker #4: And then we know India is kind of like 5% to 6% MPAT accretive. And then you've said other associates are also going to improve a bit.
Speaker #4: You add all that up—a very simple bridge—and you're getting 19% to 20% MPAT growth to $770 million plus next year. Should I go—sorry, should I pause there?
Speaker #1: Yeah, why don't you pause there? Because there's a little bit in that to unpack, Eric. Maybe if I work my way bottom-up. You're right.
Andrew Cramer: Why don't you just pause there? There's a little bit in that to unpack, Eric. Maybe if I work my way bottom up. You're right, we've guided to associate losses improving. India will be a discontinued operation. It gets stripped out of the historical period as well as FY27 going forward. You'll have to look at the statutory accounts to see the jump that you're describing. You won't see it in our continuing ops disclosures. I think that your math is about right on the benefits. That was a drag on EBITDA and free cash flow, having that out of the business will give us that uplift on NPAT. That's fair. Using 2026 as a base, I won't comment on your AUD 130 million EBITDA.
Andrew Cramer: Why don't you just pause there? There's a little bit in that to unpack, Eric. Maybe if I work my way bottom up. You're right, we've guided to associate losses improving. India will be a discontinued operation. It gets stripped out of the historical period as well as FY27 going forward. You'll have to look at the statutory accounts to see the jump that you're describing. You won't see it in our continuing ops disclosures. I think that your math is about right on the benefits. That was a drag on EBITDA and free cash flow, having that out of the business will give us that uplift on NPAT. That's fair. Using 2026 as a base, I won't comment on your AUD 130 million EBITDA.
Speaker #1: We've guided that associated losses relating to India will be treated as a discontinued operation. So, it gets stripped out of the historical period, as well as from fiscal '27 going forward.
Speaker #1: So you'll have to look at the statutory accounts to see the jump that you're describing. You won't see it in our continuing ops disclosures, but I think that your map is about right on the benefits.
Speaker #1: That was a drag on EBITDA and free cash flow, and having that out of the business will give us that uplift on NPAT. So that's fair.
Speaker #1: Using '26 as a base, I won't comment on your $130 million EBITDA. But in relation to the outlook, listings were flat in fiscal '26, and I guess we're probably owing to the fast finish to fiscal '26. We're guiding fiscal '27 to be flat and down a little bit on yield.
Andrew Cramer: In relation to the outlook, listings were flat in FY26. I guess we're probably, owing to the fast finish to FY26, we're guiding FY27 to be flat and down a little bit. On yield, we finished at 13% for FY26. We're guiding to low double digits there. You're right that it's sort of in a similar ballpark. On costs, we are guiding to be a little bit tighter. I think your logic makes good sense. I'm not going to comment on your math and the output. I think your assumptions are sound.
Andrew Cramer: In relation to the outlook, listings were flat in FY26. I guess we're probably, owing to the fast finish to FY26, we're guiding FY27 to be flat and down a little bit. On yield, we finished at 13% for FY26. We're guiding to low double digits there. You're right that it's sort of in a similar ballpark. On costs, we are guiding to be a little bit tighter. I think your logic makes good sense. I'm not going to comment on your math and the output. I think your assumptions are sound.
Speaker #1: We finished at 13% for fiscal '26, and we're guiding to low double digits there. So you're right that it's sort of in a similar ballpark.
Speaker #1: And on costs, we are guiding to be a little bit tighter. So I think your logic makes good sense, but I'm not going to comment on your math and the output.
Speaker #1: But I think your assumptions are sound.
Speaker #4: Awesome. Thanks, Andrew. Second one, Thomas, is less convoluted. Just on product and potential new monetization levers, maybe second after '27, maybe in FY28. But Scout24 in May, they launched Agentic OS.
Eric Choi: Awesome. Thanks, Andrew. Second one, promise it's less convoluted. Just on product and potential new monetization levers, maybe H2 2027, maybe in FY28. Like Scout24 in May, they launched Agentic OS. You've announced AI Assistant and Campaign Assist today, some of that's going to go into your Ignite product. My question was, could these be levers to drive either a higher subscription revenue growth? Or B, could you use those as incentives to drive, say, Luxe or AMAX uptake in exchange for subscription discounts going forward?
Eric Choi: Awesome. Thanks, Andrew. Second one, promise it's less convoluted. Just on product and potential new monetization levers, maybe H2 2027, maybe in FY28. Like Scout24 in May, they launched Agentic OS. You've announced AI Assistant and Campaign Assist today, some of that's going to go into your Ignite product. My question was, could these be levers to drive either a higher subscription revenue growth? Or B, could you use those as incentives to drive, say, Luxe or AMAX uptake in exchange for subscription discounts going forward?
Speaker #4: You've sort of announced AI that's going to go into your Ignite product. So my question was, could these be levers to drive either (A) higher subscription revenue growth, or (B) could you use those as incentives to drive, say, Lux or AMEX uptake in exchange for subscription discounts going forward?
Speaker #5: Yeah, thanks, Eric. I'm happy to take that question. Look, we're really happy with the Campaign Assist product. We think it's a great product that puts a fantastic tool in the hands of our customers using our PropTrack and AMV data. I mean, clearly, it gives customers the opportunity to upsell or manage campaign performance throughout a campaign.
Cameron McIntyre: Thanks, Eric. I'm happy to take that question. Look, we're really happy with the Campaign Assist product. We think it's a great product that puts a fantastic tool in the hands of our customers using our PropTrack and AVM data. Clearly, it gives customers the opportunity to upsell or manage campaign performance throughout a campaign and provide the opportunity to engage vendors at different points in time. It's very early days with it. In terms of the value that it adds in terms of subs and so on, I think that's too early to call from our perspective. We're just happy to have it out there, happy to have it in the hands of our customers and see how it performs. We'll continue to tweak and evolve it. We're very excited about it.
Cameron McIntyre: Thanks, Eric. I'm happy to take that question. Look, we're really happy with the Campaign Assist product. We think it's a great product that puts a fantastic tool in the hands of our customers using our PropTrack and AVM data. Clearly, it gives customers the opportunity to upsell or manage campaign performance throughout a campaign and provide the opportunity to engage vendors at different points in time. It's very early days with it. In terms of the value that it adds in terms of subs and so on, I think that's too early to call from our perspective. We're just happy to have it out there, happy to have it in the hands of our customers and see how it performs. We'll continue to tweak and evolve it. We're very excited about it.
Speaker #5: And provide the opportunity to engage vendors at different points in time. So it's very early days with it. In terms of the value that it adds in terms of subs and so on, I think that's too early to call from our perspective.
Speaker #5: We're just happy to have it out there, happy to have it in the hands of our customers, and see how it performs. We'll continue to tweak and evolve it.
Speaker #5: But we're very excited about it.
Speaker #4: Legend. Thanks, Ken. And then, last one—maybe for you, Ken, or Andrew. Just a follow-up on cost. I think, Andrew, you were sort of intimating JAWS is higher than history, but that probably reflects, say, a greater structural focus on efficiencies.
Eric Choi: Legend. Thanks, Cam. Last one, maybe for you, Cam or Andrew. Just to follow up on cost, I think, Andrew, you were sort of intimating jaws is higher than history, but that probably reflects, say, a greater structural focus on efficiencies, and it's not just a cyclical response. Just wanted to confirm that. If that's the case, is the inference also if listings in FY27 are worse than, say, your flat to low single-digit declines, then presumably you'd also take that cost guidance or there's scope to take that cost guidance lower as well?
Eric Choi: Legend. Thanks, Cam. Last one, maybe for you, Cam or Andrew. Just to follow up on cost, I think, Andrew, you were sort of intimating jaws is higher than history, but that probably reflects, say, a greater structural focus on efficiencies, and it's not just a cyclical response. Just wanted to confirm that. If that's the case, is the inference also if listings in FY27 are worse than, say, your flat to low single-digit declines, then presumably you'd also take that cost guidance or there's scope to take that cost guidance lower as well?
Speaker #4: And it's not just a cyclical response, so I just wanted to confirm that. But if that's the case, is the inference also that if listings in FY27 are worse than, say, your flat to low single-digit declines, then presumably you'd also take that cost guidance—or the scope to take that cost guidance—lower as well?
Speaker #1: Yeah, thanks, Eric. As I said, fiscal '26 — we're really happy with the cost controls and the way the business approached cost. What was probably a little unexpected was how well the business finished from a listings perspective.
Andrew Cramer: Yeah. Thanks, Eric. As well as the fiscal 26, we're really happy with the cost controls and the way the business approached costs. What was probably a little unexpected was how well the business finished from a listings perspective. That probably widened the jaws a little bit towards the end of fiscal 26. We're committing to open jaws or operational margin expansion, we're calling it, and we've guided the market to low or to mid-single digit cost base lower than what it has been historically. I think, as Encho and I discussed a little bit earlier, we have some levers at our disposal that gives us confidence, in that if listings are down, then we can adjust costs accordingly. What I would say, and it's really important, is that growing and investing in that top line is paramount for this business.
Andrew Cramer: Yeah. Thanks, Eric. As well as the fiscal 26, we're really happy with the cost controls and the way the business approached costs. What was probably a little unexpected was how well the business finished from a listings perspective. That probably widened the jaws a little bit towards the end of fiscal 26. We're committing to open jaws or operational margin expansion, we're calling it, and we've guided the market to low or to mid-single digit cost base lower than what it has been historically. I think, as Encho and I discussed a little bit earlier, we have some levers at our disposal that gives us confidence, in that if listings are down, then we can adjust costs accordingly. What I would say, and it's really important, is that growing and investing in that top line is paramount for this business.
Speaker #1: So that probably widened the JAWS a little bit towards the end of fiscal '26. We're continuing to open JAWS, or operational margin expansion as we're calling it, and we've guided the market to low- to mid-single-digit cost growth, lower than what it has been historically.
Speaker #1: And I think, as Enshaw and I discussed a little bit earlier, we have some levers at our disposal that give us confidence that if listings are down, then we can adjust costs accordingly.
Speaker #1: But what I would say, and it's really important, is that growing and investing in that top line is paramount for this business. And so what we won't do is short-term the business or do anything that impacts product development or things for growth of the top line. In managing costs, I want to be really clear on that.
Andrew Cramer: What we won't do is short-term the business or do anything that impacts product development or things or growth at the top line in managing costs. I want to be really clear on that.
Andrew Cramer: What we won't do is short-term the business or do anything that impacts product development or things or growth at the top line in managing costs. I want to be really clear on that.
Speaker #4: Nice. Good result, by the way. Thanks.
Eric Choi: That's good result, by the way. Thanks.
Eric Choi: That's good result, by the way. Thanks.
Speaker #5: Thanks, Eric.
Cameron McIntyre: Thanks, Eric.
Cameron McIntyre: Thanks, Eric.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Eric.
Andrew Cramer: Thanks, Eric.
Andrew Cramer: Thanks, Eric.
Speaker #2: Thank you. And one moment for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Roger Samuel with Jefferies Australia. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you, one moment for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Roger Samuel with Jefferies Australia. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you, one moment for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Roger Samuel with Jefferies Australia. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Oh, hi, morning all. Just two questions from me. First one, can you remind us how long a Premier Plus listing can last on the website or the app?
Roger Samuel: Well, hi, morning all. Just two questions from me. First one, can you remind us how long can a Premiere+ listing last on the website or for the app? If the property is not sold, then can the customer relist it, and how much do they have to pay for it?
Roger Samuel: Well, hi, morning all. Just two questions from me. First one, can you remind us how long can a Premiere+ listing last on the website or for the app? If the property is not sold, then can the customer relist it, and how much do they have to pay for it?
Speaker #6: And if it probably is not sold, then can the customer release it? And how much do they have to pay for it?
Speaker #5: Yeah, thanks, Roger. I'll take that question. So, look, I mean, a Premier Plus listing has unlimited days on site. If the property fails to sell, we do offer customers the opportunity to pull the listing down and then re-list it at a later date, up to three months after that.
Cameron McIntyre: Thanks, Roger. Look, a Premiere+ listing has unlimited days on site, and if the property fails to sell, and then we do offer customers the opportunity to pull the listing down and then relist it at a later date, up to three months post that. I guess the crucial thing to note here is that this will only count as one listing, if that's the crux of your question.
Cameron McIntyre: Thanks, Roger. Look, a Premiere+ listing has unlimited days on site, and if the property fails to sell, and then we do offer customers the opportunity to pull the listing down and then relist it at a later date, up to three months post that. I guess the crucial thing to note here is that this will only count as one listing, if that's the crux of your question.
Speaker #5: But I guess the crucial thing to note here is that this will only count as one listing, if that's the crux of your question.
Speaker #6: Yeah, that's right. And when they release it, is there a fee that they have to pay? My understanding is that.
Roger Samuel: Yeah, that's right. Yeah. When they relist it, is there a fee that they have to pay month-on-month?
Roger Samuel: Yeah, that's right. Yeah. When they relist it, is there a fee that they have to pay month-on-month?
Cameron McIntyre: No.
Cameron McIntyre: No.
Speaker #5: No.
Roger Samuel: Yeah. There's a discount. Yeah.
Roger Samuel: Yeah. There's a discount. Yeah.
Speaker #6: Because the discount.
Speaker #5: Not if it's the same agent. If it goes to a different agent down the track, then it's discounted by 50%.
Cameron McIntyre: Not if it's the same agent. If it goes to a different agent down the track, then it's discounted by 50%.
Cameron McIntyre: Not if it's the same agent. If it goes to a different agent down the track, then it's discounted by 50%.
Speaker #6: Okay, cool. And my second question is just on the appetite for more depth listings or the add-on products, even if it's getting more and more difficult to sell the property.
Roger Samuel: Okay, cool. My second question is just on the appetite for more depth listings or the add-on product, even as it's getting more and more difficult to sell the property. Are you seeing any increased uptake in the last few months? You mentioned about the slowdown in the buyer inquiry towards the end of the Q2.
Roger Samuel: Okay, cool. My second question is just on the appetite for more depth listings or the add-on product, even as it's getting more and more difficult to sell the property. Are you seeing any increased uptake in the last few months? You mentioned about the slowdown in the buyer inquiry towards the end of the Q2.
Speaker #6: Are you seeing any increased uptake in the last few months? You mentioned the slowdown in the buy inquiry. What's the June quarter looking like?
Speaker #5: Yeah, I guess I've been around these platforms for a long time, and what you tend to see when things get a little bit more challenging is that depth becomes a real opportunity for vendors to stand out.
Cameron McIntyre: Yeah, I've been around these platforms for a long time, what you tend to see when things get a little bit more challenging, depth becomes a real opportunity for vendors to stand out. Intuitively, I guess we believe that while the market might be a little bit more challenged, it does provide us with more opportunity to sell more depth. I guess that's a little bit of a tailwind.
Cameron McIntyre: Yeah, I've been around these platforms for a long time, what you tend to see when things get a little bit more challenging, depth becomes a real opportunity for vendors to stand out. Intuitively, I guess we believe that while the market might be a little bit more challenged, it does provide us with more opportunity to sell more depth. I guess that's a little bit of a tailwind.
Speaker #5: So, intuitively, I guess we believe that while the market might be a little bit more challenged, it does provide us with more opportunity to sell more depth.
Speaker #5: So I guess that's a little bit of a tailwind.
Speaker #6: All right. Thank you.
Roger Samuel: All right. Thank you.
Roger Samuel: All right. Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you. And one moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Sriharsh Singh with Bank of America. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Shrishar Singh with Bank of America. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Shrishar Singh with Bank of America. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Hi, Ken. Andrew. A couple of questions from me on yield. First, on the FY27 guidance of low double-digit yield growth — so, besides price increases, which of the add-on products will contribute the most to yield growth in your view between AMEX, Lux, and Pro subscriptions, or is there something else that could be contributing a little bit on the margin?
Shrishar Singh: Hey, Cam, Andrew. A couple of questions from me on yield. First, on the 2027 guidance of low double-digit yield growth. Besides price increase, which of the add-on products will contribute the most to yield growth in your view between AMAX, Luxe, and Pro subscriptions, or is there something else which could be contributing a little bit on the margin? Second question is just thinking slightly, or another way to ask you about the potential geo mix impact into 2027. Look, based on our tracking and some data, Sydney and Melbourne listings are up 12% to 15% versus long-term average. My question is, if Sydney and Melbourne listings were to normalize towards the long-term average, what kind of a geo mix drag would that entail? Thanks.
Shrishar Singh: Hey, Cam, Andrew. A couple of questions from me on yield. First, on the 2027 guidance of low double-digit yield growth. Besides price increase, which of the add-on products will contribute the most to yield growth in your view between AMAX, Luxe, and Pro subscriptions, or is there something else which could be contributing a little bit on the margin? Second question is just thinking slightly, or another way to ask you about the potential geo mix impact into 2027. Look, based on our tracking and some data, Sydney and Melbourne listings are up 12% to 15% versus long-term average. My question is, if Sydney and Melbourne listings were to normalize towards the long-term average, what kind of a geo mix drag would that entail? Thanks.
Speaker #7: Second question is just thinking slightly, or another way to ask you, about the GeoMix—the potential GeoMix impact into FY27. Look, based on our tracking and some data, Sydney and Melbourne listings are up 12% to 15% versus the long-term average.
Speaker #7: So my question is, if Sydney and Melbourne listings were to normalize towards the long-term average, what kind of a GeoMix drag would that entail?
Speaker #7: Thanks.
Speaker #1: I think that's one for me, Sriharsh. So firstly, on the yield for fiscal '27, the 8% Premier Plus price rise is a larger contributor to yield.
Andrew Cramer: I think that's one for me, Suraj. Firstly, on the yields for fiscal 2027, the 8% Premiere+ price rise is the largest contributor to yield, then add-ons, just like fiscal 2026, are the next most material contributor, but the mix is different. Whereas last year it was AMAX and then a little Luxe, this coming fiscal year, Luxe will be a much larger contributor to yield than AMAX, but AMAX will still be a positive contributor, too. We'll probably get a little bit from penetration perhaps too, but that'll be much less material. We didn't put the subscription price up for our agent community, that'll be a less material contributor, albeit we will see gradual uptick of the Pro subscription, too, which will help a little. As it relates to geo, it's a really interesting question and something we're thinking about too.
Andrew Cramer: I think that's one for me, Suraj. Firstly, on the yields for fiscal 2027, the 8% Premiere+ price rise is the largest contributor to yield, then add-ons, just like fiscal 2026, are the next most material contributor, but the mix is different. Whereas last year it was AMAX and then a little Luxe, this coming fiscal year, Luxe will be a much larger contributor to yield than AMAX, but AMAX will still be a positive contributor, too. We'll probably get a little bit from penetration perhaps too, but that'll be much less material. We didn't put the subscription price up for our agent community, that'll be a less material contributor, albeit we will see gradual uptick of the Pro subscription, too, which will help a little. As it relates to geo, it's a really interesting question and something we're thinking about too.
Speaker #1: And then add-ons, just like fiscal '26, are the next most material contributor. But the mix is different. So whereas last year it was AMEX and then a little Lux, this coming fiscal year, Lux will be a much larger contributor to yield than AMEX.
Speaker #1: But AMEX will still be a positive contributor, too. We'll probably get a little bit from penetration perhaps, too, but that'll be much less material.
Speaker #1: And we didn't put the subscription price up for our agent community, and so that'll be a less material contributor. Albeit, we will see a gradual uptick of the Pro subscription too, which will help a little.
Speaker #7: As it relates to geo, it's a really interesting question and something we're doing some thinking about too. So it's not just the Sydney and Melbourne relativity, and it's not as simple as that, Sriharsh.
Andrew Cramer: It's not just the Sydney and Melbourne relativity. It's not as simple as that, Suraj. It depends on the communities within those markets and then the pricing within those cities. It also depends on, for the rest of Australia, when we compare them, the cities to Melbourne and Sydney. If Brisbane is a large contributor, that's generally a positive, given the pricing in that city compared to, say, rural Australia. There's a few different elements at play there. To be specific in answering your question, if listings in Melbourne and Sydney did come back towards historical averages, we would see an element of negative yield from geo mix, but that could well be offset by uptick in other cities like Brisbane, as I mentioned.
Andrew Cramer: It's not just the Sydney and Melbourne relativity. It's not as simple as that, Suraj. It depends on the communities within those markets and then the pricing within those cities. It also depends on, for the rest of Australia, when we compare them, the cities to Melbourne and Sydney. If Brisbane is a large contributor, that's generally a positive, given the pricing in that city compared to, say, rural Australia. There's a few different elements at play there. To be specific in answering your question, if listings in Melbourne and Sydney did come back towards historical averages, we would see an element of negative yield from geo mix, but that could well be offset by uptick in other cities like Brisbane, as I mentioned.
Speaker #7: So it depends on the communities within those markets, and then the pricing within those cities. It also depends on, for the rest of Australia, when we compare the cities to Melbourne and Sydney. If Brisbane is a large contributor, that's generally a positive, given the pricing in that city compared to, say, rural Australia.
Speaker #7: So, there are a few different elements at play there, to be specific in answering your question. If listings in Melbourne and Sydney did come back towards historical averages, we would see an element of negative yield from GeoMix, but that could well be offset by an uptick in other cities, like Brisbane, as I mentioned.
Speaker #6: Super clear. If I can sneak in one more: Is LLM traffic as a share of total traffic for you— is that rising, or is it also flattening out for you over the last six months?
Shrishar Singh: Super clear. If I can sneak in one more. Is LLM traffic as a share of total traffic for you, is that rising or is it also flattening out for you over the last six months? Thanks.
Shrishar Singh: Super clear. If I can sneak in one more. Is LLM traffic as a share of total traffic for you, is that rising or is it also flattening out for you over the last six months? Thanks.
Speaker #6: Thanks.
Speaker #5: Yeah. Thanks, Sriharsh. I mean, the answer to that question is pretty simple. It's flat and it's well and truly south of 1% of our traffic.
Cameron McIntyre: Yeah. Thanks, Suraj. The answer to that question is pretty simple. It is flat, and it is well and truly south of 1% of our traffic.
Cameron McIntyre: Yeah. Thanks, Suraj. The answer to that question is pretty simple. It is flat, and it is well and truly south of 1% of our traffic.
Speaker #6: That's great. Perfect. Thanks.
Shrishar Singh: That is great. Perfect. Thanks.
Shrishar Singh: That is great. Perfect. Thanks.
Speaker #5: No worries.
Cameron McIntyre: No worries.
Cameron McIntyre: No worries.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Sriharsh.
Andrew Cramer: Thanks, Suraj.
Andrew Cramer: Thanks, Suraj.
Speaker #2: And thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Lucy Huang with UBS. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Lucy Huang with UBS. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Lucy Huang with UBS. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Please go ahead.
Speaker #8: Thanks, Kim and Andrew. I've just got two questions as well. So, just the first one: are you able to give us a sense as to how seller leads have trended across the platform? And I'm also wondering whether you're starting to see a bit of a correlation between seller leads as a leading indicator for listing volumes?
Lucy Huang: Thanks, Cameron, Andrew. I've just got two questions as well. Just the first one, are you able to give us a sense as to how seller leads have trended across the platform? I'm also wondering whether you're starting to see a bit of a correlation between seller leads, as a leading indicator for listing volumes.
Lucy Huang: Thanks, Cameron, Andrew. I've just got two questions as well. Just the first one, are you able to give us a sense as to how seller leads have trended across the platform? I'm also wondering whether you're starting to see a bit of a correlation between seller leads, as a leading indicator for listing volumes.
Speaker #5: Yeah. Great. Question, Lucy. So in relation to stellarly, so I'd say stellarly in July and that's probably the best comp to your question. I mean, my view is stellarly are a lead indicator of what we expect to see over the coming months as consumers think about putting their properties up for been consistent with what we saw in listing volume in July as well.
Cameron McIntyre: Yeah, great question, Lucy. In relation to seller leads, I'd say seller leads in July, that's probably the best comp to your question. My view is seller leads are a lead indicator of what we expect to see over the coming months as consumers think about putting their properties up for sale. I'd say seller leads have been consistent with what we saw in listing volume in July as well. Pretty flat this month in July.
Cameron McIntyre: Yeah, great question, Lucy. In relation to seller leads, I'd say seller leads in July, that's probably the best comp to your question. My view is seller leads are a lead indicator of what we expect to see over the coming months as consumers think about putting their properties up for sale. I'd say seller leads have been consistent with what we saw in listing volume in July as well. Pretty flat this month in July.
Speaker #5: So, pretty flat this month in July.
Speaker #8: Yeah. So, based on what you can see, it looks like the trend still kind of stabilizes at this point in time through the, uh, steadily.
Lucy Huang: Yeah. Based on what you can see, it looks like the trend is still kind of stable at this point in time through the seller leads.
Lucy Huang: Yeah. Based on what you can see, it looks like the trend is still kind of stable at this point in time through the seller leads.
Speaker #5: Correct. Yeah. That's exactly right.
Cameron McIntyre: Correct. Yep. That's exactly right.
Cameron McIntyre: Correct. Yep. That's exactly right.
Speaker #8: And then just my second question, around kind of like Lux take-up. I understand that you've put out some incentives for agents to contract or make commitments to put more listings onto Lux into FY27.
Lucy Huang: Then just my second question, around Luxe take-up. Understand that you've put out some incentives for agents to contract or make commitments to put more listings onto Luxe into FY27. Any color you can shed on what proportion of agents have actually signed on to this commitment? I know it's early days in the year, but just any signs that we are seeing Luxe take-up increasing?
Lucy Huang: Then just my second question, around Luxe take-up. Understand that you've put out some incentives for agents to contract or make commitments to put more listings onto Luxe into FY27. Any color you can shed on what proportion of agents have actually signed on to this commitment? I know it's early days in the year, but just any signs that we are seeing Luxe take-up increasing?
Speaker #8: Can you shed any light on what proportion of agents have actually signed on to this commitment? I know it's early days in the year, but are there any signs that we are seeing Lux take-up increasing?
Speaker #5: No, I think probably the only color I can really give you is we were really happy with the Lux sign-ups over recent months, and the product's in a really good spot.
Cameron McIntyre: No, I think probably the only color I can really give you is we were really happy with the Luxe sign-ups over recent months. The product's in a really good spot. Yeah, that along with AMAX, we've been really pleased with.
Cameron McIntyre: No, I think probably the only color I can really give you is we were really happy with the Luxe sign-ups over recent months. The product's in a really good spot. Yeah, that along with AMAX, we've been really pleased with.
Speaker #5: So that, along with Amex, we've been really pleased with.
Speaker #8: And so, just to follow up on that, would you be forcing agents to pay for the Lux commitments through the year, even if, say, they don't choose to upgrade up to 20%?
Lucy Huang: Sorry, just a follow-up to that. Will you be forcing agents to pay for the Luxe commitments through the year, even if, say, they don't choose to upgrade up to 20%? Do you think you'll keep it fairly, I guess, just let it go in a way for this year, even though they've committed to it?
Lucy Huang: Sorry, just a follow-up to that. Will you be forcing agents to pay for the Luxe commitments through the year, even if, say, they don't choose to upgrade up to 20%? Do you think you'll keep it fairly, I guess, just let it go in a way for this year, even though they've committed to it?
Speaker #8: Or do you think you'll keep it fairly, I guess, just let it go in a way for this year, even though they've committed to it?
Speaker #5: So, I didn't quite hear that. Could you repeat the question?
Cameron McIntyre: Sorry, I didn't quite hear that. Could you repeat the question?
Cameron McIntyre: Sorry, I didn't quite hear that. Could you repeat the question?
Speaker #8: Oh, yeah. Sorry. Just in terms of Lux commitment, because I think some agents say we'll be committing up to 20% of listings onto Lux.
Lucy Huang: Oh, sorry. Just in terms of Luxe commitment, because I think some agents say will be committing up to 20% of listings onto Luxe. If they don't list up to 20%, will you make a decision to charge them anyway, or is the intention to just treat it as an aspiration?
Lucy Huang: Oh, sorry. Just in terms of Luxe commitment, because I think some agents say will be committing up to 20% of listings onto Luxe. If they don't list up to 20%, will you make a decision to charge them anyway, or is the intention to just treat it as an aspiration?
Speaker #8: So if they don't list up to 20%, will you make a decision to charge them anyway, or is the intention to just treat it as an aspiration?
Cameron McIntyre: Look, I think if they've made a commitment, that's a commitment they've signed up to. That's how we operate. Yes.
Cameron McIntyre: Look, I think if they've made a commitment, that's a commitment they've signed up to. That's how we operate. Yes.
Speaker #5: Yeah. Look, I think if they've made a commitment, that's a commitment they've signed up to. That's how we operate. So, yes.
Speaker #8: Thank you. Thanks.
Lucy Huang: Thank you. Thanks.
Lucy Huang: Thank you. Thanks.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Lucy.
Cameron McIntyre: Thanks, Lucy.
Cameron McIntyre: Thanks, Lucy.
Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Lachlan Elliot with Macquarie. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Lachlan Elliot with Macquarie. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Lachlan Elliott with Macquarie. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Hi, guys. Thanks for the question. I just wanted to follow up. I think we spoke about capital allocation earlier, but specifically, how are you thinking about M&A now that you’ve kind of streamlined the business and you’ve got that healthy cash balance?
Lachlan Elliot: Hi, guys. Thanks for the question. Just wanted to follow up. I think we spoke about capital allocation earlier, just specifically on how you're thinking about M&A now that you've streamlined the business and you've got that healthy cash balance. Is it going to be more of a bolt-on situation, or are there other big opportunities that you're considering? Just any color on that would be great. Thanks.
Lachlan Elliott: Hi, guys. Thanks for the question. Just wanted to follow up. I think we spoke about capital allocation earlier, just specifically on how you're thinking about M&A now that you've streamlined the business and you've got that healthy cash balance. Is it going to be more of a bolt-on situation, or are there other big opportunities that you're considering? Just any color on that would be great. Thanks.
Speaker #6: Is it going to be more of a bolt-on situation, or are there other, kind of, big opportunities that you're considering? Just any color on that would be great.
Speaker #6: Thanks.
Speaker #5: Yeah, thanks for the question. I'm happy to take that one. Look, I guess when it comes to M&A, it's an opportunity to sort of discuss the decision process.
Cameron McIntyre: Yes. Thanks for the question. I'm happy to take that one. Look, I guess when it comes to M&A, it's an opportunity sort of discussion, decision process. It comes down to the size of the potential opportunity, where it's located, familiarity with it, et cetera. It's not really a one-size-fits-all. I think you'll find that over the last nine months or so, we've had certainly plenty to keep us busy here. I wouldn't say M&A's been at the top of the list of things to do outside of India. Certainly we remain an acquisitive business and are always looking out for opportunities as they might arise.
Cameron McIntyre: Yes. Thanks for the question. I'm happy to take that one. Look, I guess when it comes to M&A, it's an opportunity sort of discussion, decision process. It comes down to the size of the potential opportunity, where it's located, familiarity with it, et cetera. It's not really a one-size-fits-all. I think you'll find that over the last nine months or so, we've had certainly plenty to keep us busy here. I wouldn't say M&A's been at the top of the list of things to do outside of India. Certainly we remain an acquisitive business and are always looking out for opportunities as they might arise.
Speaker #5: It comes down to the size of the potential opportunity, where it's located, familiarity with it, etc., etc. So it's not really a one-size-fits-all. And yeah, I think you'll find that over the last sort of nine months or so, we've certainly had plenty to keep us busy here.
Speaker #5: And I wouldn't say M&A has been at the top of the list of things to do outside of India, but certainly, we remain an acquisitive business.
Speaker #5: And are always looking out for opportunities as they might arise.
Speaker #6: Great, thanks. And then, maybe just switching gears a little bit, I just wanted to follow up on that volume guidance. You've given the guidance for flights to be down low single digits, but any kind of color on how you're thinking about the cadence for first half and second half, and then even kind of beyond that?
Lachlan Elliot: Great. Thanks. Maybe just switching gears a little bit. Just wanted to follow up on that volume guidance. You've given the guidance for site to down low single digits. Any kind of color on how you're thinking about the cadence H1 and H2, then even beyond that? Any color there would be really greatly appreciated.
Lachlan Elliott: Great. Thanks. Maybe just switching gears a little bit. Just wanted to follow up on that volume guidance. You've given the guidance for site to down low single digits. Any kind of color on how you're thinking about the cadence H1 and H2, then even beyond that? Any color there would be really greatly appreciated.
Speaker #6: Yeah, any color there would be really greatly appreciated.
Speaker #1: Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, the guidance was partly a result of the really strong finish to fiscal '26. So if we think about that fourth quarter of '26, that's going to be a tricky fourth quarter for us in fiscal '27.
Andrew Cramer: It's interesting. The guidance was partly a result of the really strong finish to FY26. If we think about that Q4 FY26, that's going to be a tricky Q4 for us in FY27. A positive tailwind for FY26, then it makes it a harder Q4 for FY27. Otherwise, regarding to flat to down, at the moment, listings are holding up well. As we know, given the historical volatility month-to-month, quarter-to-quarter, it's probably a little bit early to try and think too much about phasing at this stage, Lachlan.
Andrew Cramer: It's interesting. The guidance was partly a result of the really strong finish to FY26. If we think about that Q4 FY26, that's going to be a tricky Q4 for us in FY27. A positive tailwind for FY26, then it makes it a harder Q4 for FY27. Otherwise, regarding to flat to down, at the moment, listings are holding up well. As we know, given the historical volatility month-to-month, quarter-to-quarter, it's probably a little bit early to try and think too much about phasing at this stage, Lachlan.
Speaker #1: A positive tailwind for '26, but then it makes it a harder fourth quarter for fiscal '27. Otherwise, regarding flat to down, at the moment, listings are holding up well.
Speaker #1: But as we know, given the historical volatility, month to month, quarter to quarter, it's probably a little bit early to try and fix too much of that phasing at this stage, Lachlan.
Speaker #6: Great. Appreciate it. Thanks, guys.
Lachlan Elliot: Great. Appreciate it. Thanks, guys.
Lachlan Elliott: Great. Appreciate it. Thanks, guys.
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Cameron McIntyre: Thank you.
Cameron McIntyre: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you.
Andrew Cramer: Thank you.
Andrew Cramer: Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Hold on for our next question, please. Our next question will be from Shiraj Ahmed with City Group. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. Hold on for our next question, please. Our next question will be from Siraj Ahmed with Citigroup. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Hold on for our next question, please. Our next question will be from Siraj Ahmed with Citigroup. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Morning, Cameron, Andrew. Cam, maybe two questions for you and one for Andrew. Cam, first one, can you just touch on competitive dynamics? I noticed that your unique audience lead slipped a bit in the second half.
Siraj Ahmed: Morning, Cam and Andrew. Cam, maybe two questions for you and one for Andrew. Cam, first one, can you just touch on competitive dynamics? Notice that your unique audience lead slipped a bit in the second half. Just keen to hear what you're seeing and how you're thinking about this. Second thing, in terms of AI, you're talking about new TAM and new addressable opportunities. Can you just elaborate on that? Andrew, in terms of yield growth for next year, I think Q4, if you exclude geomix, would've been 12% or so. Seems like, as you said, Luxe will be a bigger driver. Do you think FY27 can be better than that Q4 as a baseline before geomix? Thanks.
Siraj Ahmed: Morning, Cam and Andrew. Cam, maybe two questions for you and one for Andrew. Cam, first one, can you just touch on competitive dynamics? Notice that your unique audience lead slipped a bit in the second half. Just keen to hear what you're seeing and how you're thinking about this. Second thing, in terms of AI, you're talking about new TAM and new addressable opportunities. Can you just elaborate on that? Andrew, in terms of yield growth for next year, I think Q4, if you exclude geomix, would've been 12% or so. Seems like, as you said, Luxe will be a bigger driver. Do you think FY27 can be better than that Q4 as a baseline before geomix? Thanks.
Speaker #6: I'm just keen to hear what you're seeing and how you're thinking about this. And second thing, in terms of AI, you're talking about new TAM and new addressable opportunities.
Speaker #6: Can you just elaborate on that? And Andrew, in terms of yield growth for next year, I think the fourth quarter, if you exclude GeoMix, would have been 12% or so.
Speaker #6: It seems like Lux, as you said, will be your bigger driver. Do you think FY27 can be better than that fourth quarter as a baseline before GeoMix?
Speaker #6: Thanks.
Speaker #5: So, I'll take the first two, and I'll start with the second one first. So look, in terms of TAM, it's early days with some of those AI product launches that we've now got out in play, but I guess particularly with the AI assistant. As those conversations with consumers evolve, that will expose, through those conversations, opportunities for us to explore.
Cameron McIntyre: I'll take the first two. I'll start with the second one first. Look, in terms of TAM, it's early days with some of those AI product launches that we've got now out in play. I guess, particularly with the AI Assistant, as those conversations with consumers evolve, then that will expose, through those conversations, opportunities for us to explore. If you think about the usual things around building pest inspections, et cetera. There's those opportunities that exist that we can see immediately. That will evolve over time. In terms of traffic, we're extremely happy with where our traffic's at at the moment. You would've seen the slide deck where we continue to do record traffic levels over 12 and a half million unique visitors a month coming to the site, nearly 150 million sessions.
Cameron McIntyre: I'll take the first two. I'll start with the second one first. Look, in terms of TAM, it's early days with some of those AI product launches that we've got now out in play. I guess, particularly with the AI Assistant, as those conversations with consumers evolve, then that will expose, through those conversations, opportunities for us to explore. If you think about the usual things around building pest inspections, et cetera. There's those opportunities that exist that we can see immediately. That will evolve over time. In terms of traffic, we're extremely happy with where our traffic's at at the moment. You would've seen the slide deck where we continue to do record traffic levels over 12 and a half million unique visitors a month coming to the site, nearly 150 million sessions.
Speaker #5: But if you think about the usual things, around building, pest inspections, etc., etc., I mean, there are those opportunities that exist that we can see immediately.
Speaker #5: But that will evolve over time. In terms of traffic, I mean, we're extremely happy with where our traffic's at at the moment. You would have seen the slide deck where we continue to do record traffic levels over 12 and a half million unique visits of visitors a month coming to the site, nearly 150 million sessions.
Speaker #5: And in terms of our traffic lead over our next nearest competitor, I mean, it's exceptionally strong. It will go up and down a little bit month over month, but it's still exceptionally strong.
Cameron McIntyre: In terms of our traffic lead over our next nearest competitor, it's exceptionally strong. It will go up and down a little bit month over month, but it's still exceptionally strong. I guess that's probably how we think about it.
Cameron McIntyre: In terms of our traffic lead over our next nearest competitor, it's exceptionally strong. It will go up and down a little bit month over month, but it's still exceptionally strong. I guess that's probably how we think about it.
Speaker #5: And I guess that's probably how we think about it.
Speaker #6: Thanks. And Andrew, just trying to be brief. Yeah. Just trying to be brief. Yeah. Thanks.
Siraj Ahmed: Thanks. Andrew, just trying to.
Siraj Ahmed: Thanks. Andrew, just trying to.
Andrew Cramer: Was that a question, Brandon?
Andrew Cramer: Was that a question, Brandon?
Siraj Ahmed: I'll do the third question.
Siraj Ahmed: I'll do the third question.
Andrew Cramer: Yeah. Just trying. Yeah. Thanks.
Andrew Cramer: Yeah. Just trying. Yeah. Thanks.
Speaker #1: Yeah, so it's interesting, due to the question, Shiraj. If we think about the fourth quarter, your sense of the numbers is correct. Is the mix a little bit different?
Andrew Cramer: Yeah. It is interesting. Good question, Siraj. When we think about Q4, your sense of the numbers is correct. It's just the mix is a little bit different. Buy yield for Q4 in isolation was 11%, and the mix was largely price, which is very material, but also penetration and add-ons. Add-ons was the second most material, and that was coming from AMAX and Luxe. AMAX more material and Luxe less material. Geomix was -2% for Q4. As we roll forward, I think your sense of the quantum of yield is probably there. It is in line with our low double-digit guidance. It's just I think the mix will be a little bit different.
Andrew Cramer: Yeah. It is interesting. Good question, Siraj. When we think about Q4, your sense of the numbers is correct. It's just the mix is a little bit different. Buy yield for Q4 in isolation was 11%, and the mix was largely price, which is very material, but also penetration and add-ons. Add-ons was the second most material, and that was coming from AMAX and Luxe. AMAX more material and Luxe less material. Geomix was -2% for Q4. As we roll forward, I think your sense of the quantum of yield is probably there. It is in line with our low double-digit guidance. It's just I think the mix will be a little bit different.
Speaker #1: So, buy yield for the fourth quarter in isolation was 11%, and the mix was largely price, which is very material, but also penetration and add-ons.
Speaker #1: Add-ons was the second most material, and that was coming from Amax of Lux, but Amax more materially in Lux—less material. And then GeoMix was negative 2% for the fourth quarter.
Speaker #1: As we roll forward, I think your sense of the quantum of yield is probably fair. It's in line with our low double-digit guidance. It's just that I think the mix will be a little bit different.
Speaker #1: As I said, Lux will be a larger contributor than AMAX. Penetration, perhaps less so this fiscal year, and GeoMix will be potentially a drag, at least at this early stage.
Siraj Ahmed: As I said, Luxe will be a larger contributor than AMAX penetration, perhaps less so this fiscal year. Geomix will be potentially a drag, at least at this early stage. Got it. Thank you.
Siraj Ahmed: As I said, Luxe will be a larger contributor than AMAX penetration, perhaps less so this fiscal year. Geomix will be potentially a drag, at least at this early stage. Got it. Thank you.
Speaker #6: Got it. Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Frazier McLeish with MST Marquee. Your line is open.
Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Fraser McLeish with MST. Mark, your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Fraser McLeish with MST. Mark, your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Yeah, hi. Great. Just a quick one from me—just on financial services business, Cam. I think the banks are seeing a pretty big drop-off in loan applications at the moment.
Fraser McLeish: Yeah. Hi, great. Just a quick one from me. Just on financial services business, Cam. I think the banks are seeing a pretty big drop-off in loan applications at the moment. Any help on how you're thinking about that business for 2027 would be helpful.
Fraser McLeish: Yeah. Hi, great. Just a quick one from me. Just on financial services business, Cam. I think the banks are seeing a pretty big drop-off in loan applications at the moment. Any help on how you're thinking about that business for 2027 would be helpful.
Speaker #7: So, yeah, any help on how you're thinking about that business for '27 would be helpful.
Speaker #5: Yeah. No, thanks. Thanks, Frazier, for the question. Look, I mean, I would say to you that over the last couple of months, we sort of saw similar trends in terms of lead volumes and loan applications.
Cameron McIntyre: Yeah, no, thanks, Fraser, for the question. Look, I would say to you that over the last couple of months, we saw similar in terms of lead volumes and loan applications. What we're seeing now is the gap that we saw a couple of months ago is starting to narrow. I think what that translates to is that consumers, customers are starting to settle, and they are coming back to loan applications, and we are gradually seeing improvements in application volume. I'd say a little bit early days, but we have definitely seen improvement there over recent weeks.
Cameron McIntyre: Yeah, no, thanks, Fraser, for the question. Look, I would say to you that over the last couple of months, we saw similar in terms of lead volumes and loan applications. What we're seeing now is the gap that we saw a couple of months ago is starting to narrow. I think what that translates to is that consumers, customers are starting to settle, and they are coming back to loan applications, and we are gradually seeing improvements in application volume. I'd say a little bit early days, but we have definitely seen improvement there over recent weeks.
Speaker #5: What we're seeing now is, I guess, the gap that we saw a couple of months ago is starting to narrow. So, I mean, I think what that translates to is that consumers—customers—are starting to settle, and they are coming back to loan applications.
Speaker #5: And we are gradually seeing improvements in application volumes. So I'd say it's a little bit early days, but we have definitely seen improvement there over recent weeks.
Speaker #7: Great. Thanks.
Fraser McLeish: Great. Thanks.
Fraser McLeish: Great. Thanks.
Speaker #5: Thanks, Mike.
Cameron McIntyre: Thanks, Mark.
Cameron McIntyre: Thanks, Mark.
Speaker #2: Thank you. I'm showing no further questions, so I'd like to hand the conference back over to Cam McIntyre for closing remarks.
Operator: Thank you. I'm showing no further questions. I would like to hand the conference back over to Cam McIntyre for closing remarks.
Operator: Thank you. I'm showing no further questions. I would like to hand the conference back over to Cam McIntyre for closing remarks.
Speaker #6: Excellent. Thank you, everyone, for joining the call today. I look forward to catching up with you all over the course of the next few days.
Cameron McIntyre: Excellent. Thank you, everyone, for joining the call today. I look forward to catching up with you all over the course of the next few days. Thanks a lot. Bye-bye.
Cameron McIntyre: Excellent. Thank you, everyone, for joining the call today. I look forward to catching up with you all over the course of the next few days. Thanks a lot. Bye-bye.
Speaker #6: Thanks a lot. Bye-bye.
Speaker #8: Goodbye.
Fraser McLeish: Goodbye.
Fraser McLeish: Goodbye.
Operator: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.
Operator: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.
