Q2 2026 Orron Energy AB Earnings Call
Jenny Sandström: Hi, everyone. Welcome to Orron Energy's Q2 presentation. Joining us today, we have our CEO, Daniel Fitzgerald, and CFO, Espen Hennie, who will run us through the presentation and the latest developments of Orron Energy. At the end of the presentation, we will have a Q&A session, so feel free to send across questions as we go along. We will collect and go through them at the end. With that, I'd like to hand over to Daniel Fitzgerald to start off this presentation.
Jenny Sandström: Hi, everyone. Welcome to Orron Energy's Q2 presentation. Joining us today, we have our CEO, Daniel Fitzgerald, and CFO, Espen Hennie, who will run us through the presentation and the latest developments of Orron Energy. At the end of the presentation, we will have a Q&A session, so feel free to send across questions as we go along. We will collect and go through them at the end. With that, I'd like to hand over to Daniel Fitzgerald to start off this presentation.
Speaker #1: presentation, we will have a Q&A session, so feel free to send across questions as we go along. We will collect and go through them at the end.
Speaker #1: presentation.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Thank you, Jenny. Good afternoon and welcome to our Q2 results presentation, where Espen and I will give an overview of the performance for the H1, the strategic direction for the company, including the Cloudberry transaction, which we announced during Q2. I wanted to start today with a quick overview of Orron Energy, where we stand today, where the valuation sits for the company today. I think the title on this slide really tells a massive story around the compelling value proposition. We don't need to go far beyond the transaction with Cloudberry to understand where that value sits and why that value sits within Orron Energy. For a long period of time, almost since inception of the company, we have traded with a discount to the underlying value of our assets.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Thank you, Jenny. Good afternoon and welcome to our Q2 results presentation, where Espen and I will give an overview of the performance for the H1, the strategic direction for the company, including the Cloudberry transaction, which we announced during Q2. I wanted to start today with a quick overview of Orron Energy, where we stand today, and where the valuation sits for the company today. I think the title on this slide really tells a massive story around the compelling value proposition. We don't need to go far beyond the transaction with Cloudberry to understand where that value sits and why that value sits within Orron Energy. For a long period of time, almost since inception of the company, we have traded with a discount to the underlying value of our assets.
Speaker #2: quarter results presentation, where Espen And good afternoon, and welcome to our second and I will give an overview of the performance for the first half of the year, and then also the strategic direction for the company, including the collaborative transaction which we announced during Q2.
Speaker #2: Quarter results presentation, with Espen. Good afternoon, and welcome to our second. I will give an overview of the performance for the first half of the year, and then also the strategic direction for the company, including the collaborative transaction which we announced during Q2. Thank you, Jenny.
Speaker #2: I wanted to start today with a quick overview of Orron Energy—where we stand today, and then, most importantly, where the valuation sits for the company today.
Speaker #2: And I think the title on this slide really tells a massive story around the compelling value proposition. And we don't need to go far beyond the transaction with Cloudbury to understand where that value sits and why that value sits within Orron Energy.
Speaker #2: And for a long period of time, almost since the inception of the company, we have traded with a discount to the underlying value of our assets.
Speaker #2: If I which we will touch on in the coming slides in a bit more detail, that transaction will translate into a 27% ownership in Cloudbury, where we have divested a large portion of our Nordic assets with the exclusion of Carsgroove, and in return we'll receive shares and cash in Cloudbury.
Daniel Fitzgerald: If I look first at the Cloudberry transaction, which we will touch on in the coming slides in a bit more detail, that transaction will translate into a 27% ownership in Cloudberry, where we have divested a large portion of our Nordic assets with the exclusion of Karskruv, and in return, we'll receive shares and cash in Cloudberry. When I look at the value of that share today, so that 27% shareholding, it equates to around 5.7 SEK per share in Orron Energy. Today we're trading close to 7 SEK a share. When I look over to the right-hand side, you see very clearly the value of this shareholding in Cloudberry versus the value of our market capitalization. Today, the value of that share, based on closing prices on Monday, was EUR 149 million against a market cap of EUR 188 million.
Daniel Fitzgerald: If I look first at the Cloudberry transaction, which we will touch on in the coming slides in a bit more detail, that transaction will translate into a 27% ownership in Cloudberry, where we have divested a large portion of our Nordic assets with the exclusion of Karskruv, and in return, we'll receive shares and cash in Cloudberry. When I look at the value of that share today, so that 27% shareholding, it equates to around 5.7 SEK per share in Orron Energy. Today we're trading close to 7 SEK a share. When I look over to the right-hand side, you see very clearly the value of this shareholding in Cloudberry versus the value of our market capitalization. Today, the value of that share, based on closing prices on Monday, was EUR 149 million against a market cap of EUR 188 million.
Speaker #2: When I look at the value of that share today, so that 27% shareholding, it equates to around $5.7 per share in Orron Energy, and today we're trading close to $7.00 a share.
Speaker #2: When I look over to the right-hand side, you see very clearly the value of this shareholding in Cloudbury versus the value of our market capitalization.
Speaker #2: And today, the value of that share, based on closing prices on Monday, was $149 million, against a market cap of $188. And so we believe that the assets we've sold to Cloudbury create a fantastic company, and Cloudbury, which we'll touch on.
Daniel Fitzgerald: We believe that the assets we've sold to Cloudberry creates a fantastic company in Cloudberry, which we'll touch on. Even more so, the remaining value inside Orron Energy, implied value as per our market cap today, is only EUR 39 million. When I look over to the rest of the slide on the left-hand side, I take Karskruv, which is a good asset in the SE4 price region in southern Sweden. If we look at an electricity price between 70 and EUR 85 per megawatt hour, which we've achieved 70 year-to-date, the futures price for rest of the year is 85, and we expect that to continue into 2027. We are going to generate between 12 and EUR 16 million of EBITDA. Even the 3 years of EBITDA equals the valuation of the remaining company with no value on the rest of it.
Daniel Fitzgerald: We believe that the assets we've sold to Cloudberry creates a fantastic company in Cloudberry, which we'll touch on. Even more so, the remaining value inside Orron Energy, implied value as per our market cap today, is only EUR 39 million. When I look over to the rest of the slide on the left-hand side, I take Karskruv, which is a good asset in the SE4 price region in southern Sweden. If we look at an electricity price between EUR 70 and EUR 85 per megawatt hour, which we've achieved 70 years-to-date, the futures price for the rest of the year is 85, and we expect that to continue into 2027. We are going to generate between 12 and EUR 16 million of EBITDA. Even the three years of EBITDA equals the valuation of the remaining company with no value on the rest of it.
Speaker #2: But even more so, the remaining value inside Orron Energy implied value, as per our market cap today, is only $39 million. And when I look over to the rest of the slide on the left-hand side, I take Carsgroove, which is a good asset in the SE4 price region in southern Sweden, if we look at an electricity price between $70 and $85 per megawatt-hour, which we've achieved 70 year to date, the futures price for the rest of the year is $85, and we expect that to continue into 2027, we're going to we are going to generate between $12 and $16 million of EBITDA.
Speaker #2: So even the 3 years of EBITDA equals the valuation of the remaining company with no value on the rest of it. When I look at where assets trade today, we're more like 10 times EBITDA.
Daniel Fitzgerald: When I look at where assets trade today, we're more like 10x EBITDA. We've seen transactions in the market closer to that level. The true value of Karskruv is significantly higher than what the remaining value within Orron Energy is. We also don't need any value for the greenfield business to make up our market cap beyond Karskruv. The greenfield business, it's starting to get into its regular monetization phase, and you'll see a little bit more today on the data center side, where we have some really strong upsides from that business, and we're going to be starting to see that value coming in. We see a large benefit not only from Karskruv, but also from the greenfield business, compared to where the implied value of the remaining company sits.
Daniel Fitzgerald: When I look at where assets trade today, we're more like 10x EBITDA. We've seen transactions in the market closer to that level. The true value of Karskruv is significantly higher than what the remaining value within Orron Energy is. We also don't need any value for the greenfield business to make up our market cap beyond Karskruv. The greenfield business, it's starting to get into its regular monetization phase, and you'll see a little bit more today on the data center side, where we have some really strong upsides from that business, and we're going to be starting to see that value coming in. We see a large benefit not only from Karskruv, but also from the greenfield business, compared to where the implied value of the remaining company sits.
Speaker #2: We've seen transactions in the market closer to that level. And so the true value of Carsgroove is significantly higher than what the remaining value within Orron Energy is.
Speaker #2: We also then don't need any value for the greenfield business to make up our market cap beyond Carsgroove. The greenfield business is starting to get into its regular monetization phase, and you'll see a little bit more today on the data center side, where we have some really strong upsides from that business, and we're going to be starting to see that value coming in.
Speaker #2: And so we see a large benefit, not only from Carsgroove but also from the greenfield business, compared to where the implied value of the remaining company sits.
Speaker #2: And the final point, which is also really important, is with the Cloudbury transaction, we deliver the business. And that means we sit with a clean balance sheet, we have a $50 million facility sitting behind it, and plenty of liquidity to go and grow the business.
Daniel Fitzgerald: The final point, which is also really important, is with the Cloudberry transaction, we de-lever the business. That means we sit with a clean balance sheet. We have a €50 million facility sitting behind it and plenty of liquidity to go and grow the business. Should we need more debt capacity, there is more debt capacity within the business, and we have the means of capitalizing the greenfield business should we wish to. If I put all of that together simply, I think the mark to market on Cloudberry really underpins the core of the value in the company. On top of that, we have some fantastic upsides well beyond where the market cap sits today, which does make Orron Energy a very compelling value proposition as it stands today.
Daniel Fitzgerald: The final point, which is also really important, is with the Cloudberry transaction, we de-lever the business. That means we sit with a clean balance sheet. We have a €50 million facility sitting behind it and plenty of liquidity to go and grow the business. Should we need more debt capacity, there is more debt capacity within the business, and we have the means of capitalizing the greenfield business should we wish to. If I put all of that together simply, I think the mark to market on Cloudberry really underpins the core of the value in the company. On top of that, we have some fantastic upsides well beyond where the market cap sits today, which does make Orron Energy a very compelling value proposition as it stands today.
Speaker #2: Should we need more debt capacity, there is more debt capacity within the business, and we have the means of capitalizing the greenfield business should we wish to.
Speaker #2: So if I put all of that together simply, I think the mark-to-market on Cloudbury really underpins the core of the value in the company, on top of that we have some fantastic upsides, well beyond where the market cap sits today, which does make Orron Energy a very compelling value proposition as it stands today.
Speaker #2: If we spend a few minutes on the Cloudbury transaction, this really is a formative transaction, both for Cloudbury and for Orron Energy. We have a lot of value within our assets in the Nordics, and we have a lot we had a lot of ambition with them, which doesn't stop on the back of this transaction.
Daniel Fitzgerald: If we spend a few minutes on the Cloudberry transaction, this really is a formative transaction, both for Cloudberry and for Orron Energy. We have a lot of value within our assets in the Nordics, and we had a lot of ambition with them, which doesn't stop on the back of this transaction. We have taken a view for a long period of time that with the increasing complexity in the market, the energy systems, the penetration of renewables, the need to be active in ancillary markets, balancing and more diversified, we need a larger scale company, and we've been working down that pathway within Orron Energy for a long period, as had Cloudberry. Now is the right time to combine those two businesses into what is one of the leading Nordic IPPs, Nordic-focused IPPs, and the largest listed one focused solely on the Nordics.
Daniel Fitzgerald: If we spend a few minutes on the Cloudberry transaction, this really is a formative transaction, both for Cloudberry and for Orron Energy. We have a lot of value within our assets in the Nordics, and we had a lot of ambition with them, which doesn't stop on the back of this transaction. We have taken a view for a long period of time that with the increasing complexity in the market, the energy systems, the penetration of renewables, the need to be active in ancillary markets, balancing and more diversified, we need a larger scale company, and we've been working down that pathway within Orron Energy for a long period, as had Cloudberry. Now is the right time to combine those two businesses into what is one of the leading Nordic IPPs, Nordic-focused IPPs, and the largest listed one focused solely on the Nordics.
Speaker #2: We have taken a view for a long period of time that with the increasing complexity in the market, the energy systems, the penetration of renewables, the need to be active in the ancillary markets balancing and more diversified, we need a larger scale company, and we've been working down that pathway within Orron Energy for a long period, as have Cloudbury.
Speaker #2: And now is the right time to combine those two businesses into what is one of the leading Nordic IPPs, Nordic-focused IPPs, and the largest listed one focused solely on the Nordics.
Speaker #2: We then blend both asset bases and teams, which are very complementary, which gives you a pan-Nordic platform across all of the technologies, with the strengths and competence of both Cloudbury and Orron Energy together.
Daniel Fitzgerald: We blend both asset bases and teams, which are very complementary, which gives you a pan-Nordic platform across all of the technologies with the strengths and competence of both Cloudberry and Orron Energy together. I'm really excited about what this platform is going to be able to deliver in the coming years. Orron Energy will remain a 27% owner in Cloudberry. We'll take positions on the board and be very active in their journey going forwards, and we see this platform as a very strong platform to go and create value to consolidate and grow the business across the Nordics with the local competence that needs to be successful. Upon closing of the transaction, we see a very bright future, and we intend to be a long-term holder of the shares in Cloudberry as part of that.
Daniel Fitzgerald: We blend both asset bases and teams, which are very complementary, which gives you a pan-Nordic platform across all of the technologies with the strengths and competence of both Cloudberry and Orron Energy together. I'm really excited about what this platform is going to be able to deliver in the coming years. Orron Energy will remain a 27% owner in Cloudberry. We'll take positions on the board and be very active in their journey going forwards, and we see this platform as a very strong platform to go and create value to consolidate and grow the business across the Nordics with the local competence that needs to be successful. Upon closing of the transaction, we see a very bright future, and we intend to be a long-term holder of the shares in Cloudberry as part of that.
Speaker #2: And I'm really excited about what this platform is going to be able to deliver in the coming years. Orron Energy will remain a 27% owner in Cloudbury.
Speaker #2: We'll take positions on the board and be very active in their journey going forwards, and we see this platform as a very, very strong platform to go and create value, to consolidate and grow the business across the Nordics, with the local competence it needs to be successful.
Speaker #2: And so upon closing of the transaction, we see a very bright future, and we intend to be a long-term holder of the shares in Cloudbury as part of that.
Speaker #2: When I look at the consideration for the transaction, on the left we start with the assets that we sold, which is the entirety of our Nordic business, excluding the Carsgroove asset. With that comes the strength of our team and the competence of our team to blend into Cloudbury's competence and teams.
Daniel Fitzgerald: When I look at the consideration for the transaction, so on the left, we start with the assets that we sold, which is the entirety of our Nordic business, excluding the Karskruv asset. With that comes the strength of our team and the competence of our team to blend into Cloudberry's competence and teams. It gives a slightly different flavor and geographical focus to what Cloudberry has, so it's very, very complementary. When I look at the consideration for that transaction, first and foremost, we will retain a 27% shareholding in Cloudberry and become the largest owner in Cloudberry. We sit alongside a range of other large and strategic shareholders within that business who share the same ambition to go and grow this company to a much larger size and scale.
Daniel Fitzgerald: When I look at the consideration for the transaction, so on the left, we start with the assets that we sold, which is the entirety of our Nordic business, excluding the Karskruv asset. With that comes the strength of our team and the competence of our team to blend into Cloudberry's competence and teams. It gives a slightly different flavor and geographical focus to what Cloudberry has, so it's very, very complementary. When I look at the consideration for that transaction, first and foremost, we will retain a 27% shareholding in Cloudberry and become the largest owner in Cloudberry. We sit alongside a range of other large and strategic shareholders within that business who share the same ambition to go and grow this company to a much larger size and scale.
Speaker #2: It gives a slightly different flavor and geographical focus to what Cloudbury has. So it's very, very complementary. When I look at the consideration for that transaction, first and foremost, we will retain a 27% shareholding in Cloudbury and become the largest owner in Cloudbury.
Speaker #2: And we sit alongside a range of other large and strategic shareholders within that business, who share the same ambition to go and grow this company to scale.
Speaker #2: Secondly, we'll have the repayment of nearly all of our net debt, position, and so that will come at closing of the transaction, and we have a small payment for the cash remaining in the business.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Secondly, we'll have the repayment of nearly all of our net debt position. That will come at closing of the transaction. We have a small payment for the cash remaining in the business. When I look at that same picture on the bottom of this slide, we end up with a transaction valuation of around, or value of the shares of around €149 million against a market cap within Orron Energy of SEK 188, which is really compelling when you look at the future value of our business. Completion we expect in Q3 of this year. We have already received some of the regulatory approvals needed in Sweden. We have also yesterday approved the elements necessary at the Cloudberry EGM.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Secondly, we'll have the repayment of nearly all of our net debt position. That will come at closing of the transaction. We have a small payment for the cash remaining in the business. When I look at that same picture on the bottom of this slide, we end up with a transaction valuation of around, or value of the shares of around €149 million against a market cap within Orron Energy of SEK 188, which is really compelling when you look at the future value of our business. Completion we expect in Q3 of this year. We have already received some of the regulatory approvals needed in Sweden. We have also yesterday approved the elements necessary at the Cloudberry EGM.
Speaker #2: And so, when I look at that same picture on the bottom of this slide, we end up with a transaction valuation of around, or value of the shares of, around $149 million.
Speaker #2: Against a market cap within Orron Energy of $188, which is really compelling when you look at the future value of our business. Completion, we expect in Q3 of this year.
Speaker #2: So we have already received some of the regulatory approvals needed in Sweden, and we have also yesterday approved the elements necessary at the Cloudbury EGM, and so we have a few more elements to see through the course of August, and I expect this to close before the end of Q3 once we fulfill all of the outstanding conditions.
Daniel Fitzgerald: We have a few more elements to see through the course of August. I expect this to close before the end of Q3 once we fulfill all of the outstanding conditions. Turning more inside Orron Energy's business, looking at H1 of this year, you will have noted in our external reporting now that we talk about the continuing operations and the discontinued operations. The continuing operations are those elements that remain within Orron Energy and exclude the elements that have been sold to Cloudberry. Within our reporting of the continuing business, we also exclude the shareholding in Cloudberry from the performance of that in the historical accounts and will account for that going forwards in a slightly different way, which Espen will touch on.
Daniel Fitzgerald: We have a few more elements to see through the course of August. I expect this to close before the end of Q3 once we fulfill all of the outstanding conditions. Turning more inside Orron Energy's business, looking at H1 of this year, you will have noted in our external reporting now that we talk about the continuing operations and the discontinued operations. The continuing operations are those elements that remain within Orron Energy and exclude the elements that have been sold to Cloudberry. Within our reporting of the continuing business, we also exclude the shareholding in Cloudberry from the performance of that in the historical accounts and will account for that going forwards in a slightly different way, which Espen will touch on.
Speaker #2: Turning more inside Orron Energy's business, looking at the first 6 months of this year, and you will have noted in our external reporting now that we talk about the continuing operations and the discontinued operations.
Speaker #2: The continuing operations are those elements that remain within Orron Energy and exclude the elements that have been sold to Cloudbury. Within our reporting of the continuing business, we also exclude the shareholding in Cloudbury from the performance of that in the historical accounts, and we'll account for that going forwards in a slightly different way, which Espen will touch on.
Speaker #2: Year-to-date power generation of 113 gigawatt-hours, leading to revenues including project sales of around $13 million, and EBITDA of just shy of $3 million. Important to note that our EBITDA also includes around $4 million worth of spend on the Sudan case, which now drops away almost to zero on the back of the conclusion of the district court trial in May.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Year-to-date power generation of 113 gigawatt hours leading to revenues, including project sales of around €13 million and EBITDA of just shy of €3 million. Important to note that our EBITDA also includes around €4 million worth of spend on the Sudan case, which now drops away almost to zero on the back of the conclusion of the district court trial in May. Our financial strength as a company, not only will we have a clean balance sheet at closing with zero net debt on it, we will have the reduction in the Sudan costs with a verdict expected end of the year, and then strong cash generation, both from Karskruv and the underlying project businesses. For the Sudan case, we obviously finished that in May.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Year-to-date power generation of 113 gigawatt hours leading to revenues, including project sales of around €13 million and EBITDA of just shy of €3 million. Important to note that our EBITDA also includes around €4 million worth of spend on the Sudan case, which now drops away almost to zero on the back of the conclusion of the district court trial in May. Our financial strength as a company, not only will we have a clean balance sheet at closing with zero net debt on it, we will have the reduction in the Sudan costs with a verdict expected end of the year, and then strong cash generation, both from Karskruv and the underlying project businesses. For the Sudan case, we obviously finished that in May.
Speaker #2: And so our financial strength as a company—not only will we have a clean balance sheet at closing, with zero net debt on it—we will have the reduction in the Sudan costs, with a verdict expected end of the year, and then strong cash generation both from Carsgroove and the underlying project businesses.
Speaker #2: For the Sudan case, we obviously finished that in May. Our view all along and has still remains today is that we will see a full acquittal of both the defendants and a dropping of the forfeiture related to the court case.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Our view all along and has still remains today is that we will see a full acquittal of both the defendants and a dropping of the forfeiture related to the court case. In December of this year, we expect a verdict as communicated by the judge in the case. We've also submitted to the court a historical claim for costs incurred for the defense of the individuals and company. This amounts to around EUR 76 million. We expect once we have the judgment in December, not only do we expect an acquittal of the individuals, a dropping of the forfeiture, but we also expect an element of a reimbursement of historical costs related to the case.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Our view all along and has still remains today is that we will see a full acquittal of both the defendants and a dropping of the forfeiture related to the court case. In December of this year, we expect a verdict as communicated by the judge in the case. We've also submitted to the court a historical claim for costs incurred for the defense of the individuals and company. This amounts to around EUR 76 million. We expect once we have the judgment in December, not only do we expect an acquittal of the individuals, a dropping of the forfeiture, but we also expect an element of a reimbursement of historical costs related to the case.
Speaker #2: And so in December of this year, we expect a verdict as communicated by the judge in the case, and we've also submitted to the court a historical claim for costs incurred for the defense of the individuals and company.
Speaker #2: And so this amounts to around $76 million and we expect, once we have the judgment in December, not only do we expect an acquittal of the individuals, a dropping of the forfeiture, but we also expect an element of a reimbursement of historical costs related to the case.
Speaker #2: And so that really is an important milestone for the company, and we look forward to the outcome from that verdict and have no doubt about what the final judgment will be in the Sudan case.
Daniel Fitzgerald: That really is an important milestone for the company, and we look forward to the outcome from that verdict and have no doubt in what the final judgment will be in the Sudan case. Looking at Karskruv performance, we're in line with where we expect to be with Karskruv. Year-to-date production of around 113, and we expect full year production somewhere around the 240, 250 GWh for this year, including weather impacts, price curtailment, ancillary services, and availability warranties. Year to date, we have an achieved price on Karskruv of EUR 70 a MWh, and that has underpinned around half of our cash generation for H1 of this year. It really is a strong asset.
Daniel Fitzgerald: That really is an important milestone for the company, and we look forward to the outcome from that verdict and have no doubt in what the final judgment will be in the Sudan case. Looking at Karskruv performance, we're in line with where we expect to be with Karskruv. Year-to-date production of around 113, and we expect full year production somewhere around the 240, 250 GWh for this year, including weather impacts, price curtailment, ancillary services, and availability warranties. Year to date, we have an achieved price on Karskruv of EUR 70 a MWh, and that has underpinned around half of our cash generation for H1 of this year. It really is a strong asset.
Speaker #2: Looking at Carsgroove performance, we're in line with where we expect to be with Carsgroove. So year-to-date production of around 113, and we expect full-year production somewhere around the 240, 250 gigawatt-hours.
Speaker #2: For this year, including weather impacts, price curtailment, ancillary services, and availability warranties. Year-to-date, we have an achieved price on Carsgroove of 70 euros a megawatt-hour, and that has underpinned around half of our cash generation for the first half of this year.
Speaker #2: It really is a strong asset. It's in the SE4 price region, a relatively new asset brought online in 2023, and provides significant cash flow for the remaining business to be able to continue to invest in the greenfield development portfolio and also growth for the business.
Daniel Fitzgerald: It's in the SE4 price region, relatively new asset brought online in 2023 and provides significant cash flow for the remaining business to be able to continue to invest in the Greenfield development portfolio and also growth for the business. Karskruv is a core asset. We intend to use that cash flow and the asset value to then continue to grow our business longer term. We're very close to investment decision on a battery project at Karskruv, which will add further flexibility into the Karskruv asset and increase revenues at the same time. Stepping now into our development business, I think it's clear to say that we're not only delivering on the solar and battery side of that business, we've also been building in the background for the last two or three years a data center business out of the same competence that comes from our renewable portfolio.
Daniel Fitzgerald: It's in the SE4 price region, relatively new asset brought online in 2023 and provides significant cash flow for the remaining business to be able to continue to invest in the Greenfield development portfolio and also growth for the business. Karskruv is a core asset. We intend to use that cash flow and the asset value to then continue to grow our business longer term. We're very close to investment decision on a battery project at Karskruv, which will add further flexibility into the Karskruv asset and increase revenues at the same time. Stepping now into our development business, I think it's clear to say that we're not only delivering on the solar and battery side of that business, we've also been building in the background for the last two or three years a data center business out of the same competence that comes from our renewable portfolio.
Speaker #2: So, Carsgroove is a core asset. We intend to use that cash flow and the asset value to then continue to grow our business longer term.
Speaker #2: We're very close to an investment decision on a battery project at Carsgroove, which will add further flexibility to the Carsgroove asset and increase revenues at the same time.
Speaker #2: Stepping now into our development business, I think it's clear to say that we're not only delivering on the solar and battery side of that business.
Speaker #2: We've also been building in the background for the last two or three of the same competence that comes from our renewable portfolio. And so as it stands today, we have around 12 gigawatts' worth of projects, where around 8 gigawatts are sitting in the solar and battery domain and 4 gigawatts in the data center domain.
Daniel Fitzgerald: As it stands today, we have around 12 GW worth of projects where around eight GW is sitting in the solar and battery domain and four GW in the data center domain. As we see the evolution of grids AI data center markets, renewable penetration across Europe, we see a convergence of these elements all into one space. I think our ability to go and secure land, secure grid, secure permits, and deliver projects is really important when we look on both sides of this equation, whether it's from the renewable side, the power side, the grid side, or the data center side. There's no doubt today that data centers have a massive value in the market, but that value only exists if you're able to get power to these sites.
Daniel Fitzgerald: As it stands today, we have around 12 GW worth of projects where around eight GW is sitting in the solar and battery domain and four GW in the data center domain. As we see the evolution of grids AI data center markets, renewable penetration across Europe, we see a convergence of these elements all into one space. I think our ability to go and secure land, secure grid, secure permits, and deliver projects is really important when we look on both sides of this equation, whether it's from the renewable side, the power side, the grid side, or the data center side. There's no doubt today that data centers have a massive value in the market, but that value only exists if you're able to get power to these sites.
Speaker #2: As we see the evolution of grids, AI, data center markets, renewable penetration across Europe, we see a convergence of these elements all years a data center business out into one space, and I think our ability to go and secure land, secure grid, secure permits, and deliver projects is really important when we look on both sides of this equation, whether it's from the renewable side the power side, the grid side, or the data center side.
Speaker #2: There's no doubt today that data centers have a massive value in the market, but that value only exists if you're able to get power to these sites, and I think bringing our renewable competence alongside the data center businesses that we have evolved over the last period gives us a really strong platform when I look towards grid operators, towards grid reform, towards investors, we can tick all the boxes across that portfolio by providing not only standalone power solutions from the grid, which is now congested globally, but also the ability to provide renewable energy to provide storage into those data centers and to essentially provide a campus or an energy hub that allows you to have both production storage and demand through a data center on the one site.
Daniel Fitzgerald: I think bringing our renewable competence alongside the data center businesses that we have evolved over the last period gives us a really strong platform. When I look towards grid operators, towards grid reform, towards investors, we can tick all the boxes across that portfolio by providing not only standalone power solutions from the grid, which is now congested globally, but also the ability to provide renewable energies, to provide storage into those data centers, and to essentially provide a campus or an energy hub that allows you to have both production, storage, and demand through a data center on the one site. We will see the German platform is now in the market with a range of these energy hubs, and we'll start to see the value of those coming forward alongside the traditional standalone data center opportunities.
Daniel Fitzgerald: I think bringing our renewable competence alongside the data center businesses that we have evolved over the last period gives us a really strong platform. When I look towards grid operators, towards grid reform, towards investors, we can tick all the boxes across that portfolio by providing not only standalone power solutions from the grid, which is now congested globally, but also the ability to provide renewable energies, to provide storage into those data centers, and to essentially provide a campus or an energy hub that allows you to have both production, storage, and demand through a data center on the one site. We will see the German platform is now in the market with a range of these energy hubs, and we'll start to see the value of those coming forward alongside the traditional standalone data center opportunities.
Speaker #2: And so we will see the German platform is now in the market with a range of these energy hubs, and we'll start to see the value of those coming forward alongside the traditional standalone data center opportunities.
Speaker #2: And our teams across certainly UK and France, plus Germany, have the same skills to provide projects for data centers as we need for renewable power and storage.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Our teams across certainly UK and France, plus Germany, have the same skills to provide projects for data centers as we need for renewable power and storage. It is really complementary, and I'm excited to see how that will evolve over the coming weeks and months as we start to step more into the market with some of these newer opportunities. It would be remiss of us not to focus a small amount on our data center business. If I look at the market today, the growth in AI and the growth in the need for computing power and data centers is massive. With that drives a valuation on data centers that's beyond where we've seen in the markets historically and also in the renewable space.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Our teams across certainly UK and France, plus Germany, have the same skills to provide projects for data centers as we need for renewable power and storage. It is really complementary, and I'm excited to see how that will evolve over the coming weeks and months as we start to step more into the market with some of these newer opportunities. It would be remiss of us not to focus a small amount on our data center business. If I look at the market today, the growth in AI and the growth in the need for computing power and data centers is massive. With that drives a valuation on data centers that's beyond where we've seen in the markets historically and also in the renewable space.
Speaker #2: And so it is really complementary, and I'm excited to see how that will evolve over the coming weeks and months as we start to step more into the market with some of these newer opportunities.
Speaker #2: It would be remiss of us not to focus a small amount on our data center business. If I look at the market today, the growth in AI and the growth in the need for computing power and data centers is massive.
Speaker #2: And with that, it drives a valuation on data centers that's beyond where we've seen in the markets historically, and also in the renewable space. We're focusing on data centers with three core themes, all centered around power and all centered around our core competence.
Daniel Fitzgerald: We're focusing on data centers with three core themes, all centered around power and all centered around our core competence. Firstly, we need the land for the data centers, we need the permits, et cetera, but we have the ability to provide power in three different means. Firstly, through a traditional site, which is a standalone grid-connected data center. Secondly, through private wire, either through projects that we've generated ourselves or through third-party connections, because we understand that element of power delivery to site, and we have many means of doing that. Thirdly, by providing energy hubs, which is essentially that whole package in one: storage, generation, grid connection, and data centers. Today, we have a large portfolio of around 4 gigawatts. In the UK, we have 1.1 gigawatts at ready to permit, of which 300 megawatts is in an active sales process.
Daniel Fitzgerald: We're focusing on data centers with three core themes, all centered around power and all centered around our core competence. Firstly, we need the land for the data centers, we need the permits, et cetera, but we have the ability to provide power in three different means. Firstly, through a traditional site, which is a standalone grid-connected data center. Secondly, through private wire, either through projects that we've generated ourselves or through third-party connections, because we understand that element of power delivery to site, and we have many means of doing that. Thirdly, by providing energy hubs, which is essentially that whole package in one: storage, generation, grid connection, and data centers. Today, we have a large portfolio of around 4 gigawatts. In the UK, we have 1.1 gigawatts at ready to permit, of which 300 megawatts is in an active sales process.
Speaker #2: So firstly, we need the land for the data centers. We need the permits etc. But we have the ability to provide power in three different means.
Speaker #2: Firstly, through a traditional site, which is a standalone grid-connected data center. Secondly, through private wire, either through projects that we've generated ourselves or through third-party connections because we understand that element of power delivery to site and we have many means of doing that.
Speaker #2: And then, thirdly, by providing energy hubs, which is essentially that whole package in one: storage, generation, grid connection, and data centers. And today, we have a large portfolio of around 4 gigawatts in the UK.
Speaker #2: We have 1.1 gigawatts at ready to permit, of which 300 megawatts is in an active sales process. In Germany, we have energy hubs where we have co-located batteries solar and data centers behind the meter, and we're also in the market with a range of those in Germany.
Daniel Fitzgerald: In Germany, we have energy hubs where we have co-located batteries, solar, and data centers behind the meter, and we're also in the market with a range of those in Germany. This really is an exciting platform. I think we will ensure that we continue to grow this, and it has a massive value when I look across its peer group that's either in the listed or private domain in the transactions we've seen happening. We will be looking at how to best realize the value from this portfolio going forwards, whether that is to capitalize the portfolio, take projects further, whether it's to monetize a portion of the portfolio, or potentially to offer a spin-out or a listing separately of our data center and renewable growth platform.
Daniel Fitzgerald: In Germany, we have energy hubs where we have co-located batteries, solar, and data centers behind the meter, and we're also in the market with a range of those in Germany. This really is an exciting platform. I think we will ensure that we continue to grow this, and it has a massive value when I look across its peer group that's either in the listed or private domain in the transactions we've seen happening. We will be looking at how to best realize the value from this portfolio going forwards, whether that is to capitalize the portfolio, take projects further, whether it's to monetize a portion of the portfolio, or potentially to offer a spin-out or a listing separately of our data center and renewable growth platform.
Speaker #2: So, this really is an exciting platform. I think we will ensure that we continue to grow this, and it has massive value when I look across its peer group, whether in the listed or private domain, and in the transactions we've seen happening.
Speaker #2: And so we will be looking at how to best realize the value from this portfolio going forwards, whether that is to capitalize the portfolio, take projects further, whether it's to monetize a portion of the portfolio, or potentially to offer a spin out or a listing separately of our data center and renewable growth platform.
Speaker #2: So we'll spend more time on that in the second half of this year, and we'll come back to the market when we're ready to share.
Daniel Fitzgerald: We'll spend more time on that in the H2 of this year, we'll come back to the market when we're ready to share. Really, really exciting to see some of these projects in the market already. Stepping into the sales side of this, which is a really important element of this business. It's great to get the projects maturing, to get the grid and land secured and move into permitting. We really also need to be monetizing this portfolio. As of today, we have a range of sold projects totaling around 260 MW, EUR 15 million. If we step into the sales processes that are ongoing now, we have a suite of solar projects, three solar projects in the UK, 1.8 GW in the market.
Daniel Fitzgerald: We'll spend more time on that in the H2 of this year, we'll come back to the market when we're ready to share. Really, really exciting to see some of these projects in the market already. Stepping into the sales side of this, which is a really important element of this business. It's great to get the projects maturing, to get the grid and land secured and move into permitting. We really also need to be monetizing this portfolio. As of today, we have a range of sold projects totaling around 260 MW, EUR 15 million. If we step into the sales processes that are ongoing now, we have a suite of solar projects, three solar projects in the UK, 1.8 GW in the market.
Speaker #2: But it’s really, really exciting to see some of these projects in the market already. And then, stepping into the sales side of this, which is a really important element of this business.
Speaker #2: It's great to get the projects maturing, to get the grid and land secured and move into permitting. But we really also need to be monetizing this portfolio.
Speaker #2: So as of today, we have a range of sold projects totaling around 260 megawatts, €15 million. And then, if we step into the sales processes that are ongoing now, we have a suite of solar projects—three solar projects in the UK, 1.8 gigawatts—in the market.
Speaker #2: And that portfolio is awaiting the final grid connection dates and details which is expected in Q4 or early Q1 next year. And so we may see that process, depending on the values on the table, we'll see that process continuing through the second half of this year.
Daniel Fitzgerald: That portfolio is awaiting the final grid connection dates and details, which is expected in Q4 or early Q1 next year. We may see that process, depending on the values on the table, we'll see that process continuing through the H2 of this year. The second process in the UK is a 300 MW data center site, that's launched, and we'll see more discussion around that in Q3 of this year. Exciting portfolio in Germany is the launch of around 3 GW of energy hubs. Quite early stage, but have the ability to provide renewable power, storage, and data centers all behind the meter. Given that combination, we score very, very highly in the recent grid reform in Germany, which gives us accelerated and preferential access to the grid.
Daniel Fitzgerald: That portfolio is awaiting the final grid connection dates and details, which is expected in Q4 or early Q1 next year. We may see that process, depending on the values on the table, we'll see that process continuing through the H2 of this year. The second process in the UK is a 300 MW data center site, that's launched, and we'll see more discussion around that in Q3 of this year. Exciting portfolio in Germany is the launch of around 3 GW of energy hubs. Quite early stage, but have the ability to provide renewable power, storage, and data centers all behind the meter. Given that combination, we score very, very highly in the recent grid reform in Germany, which gives us accelerated and preferential access to the grid.
Speaker #2: The second process in the UK is a 300 megawatt data center site, and that's launched and we'll see more discussion around that in Q3 of this year.
Speaker #2: Exciting portfolio in Germany is the launch of around 3 gigawatts of energy hubs. Quite early stage, but have the ability to provide renewable power storage and data centers all behind the meter.
Speaker #2: And, given that combination, we score very, very highly in the recent grid reform in Germany, which gives us accelerated and preferential access to the grid.
Speaker #2: And so those projects now are in the market, and we'll see where the opportunity sits in the second half of this year. That's backed up by further projects totaling around 12 gigawatts across that entire platform.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Those projects now are in the market, we'll see where the opportunity sits in the H2 of this year. That's backed up by further projects totaling around 12 GW across that entire platform. With that, I think three key pillars that we focus on in the business now, shareholding in Cloudberry and growing the value of that, the value of Karskruv, and the value of this development portfolio. I think it becomes a lot easier for investors to understand the true value within Orron Energy, and we can now clearly see the misplacement of that value relative to where our market cap is. With that, I'll pass over to Espen to run through the financials for Q2.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Those projects now are in the market, we'll see where the opportunity sits in the H2 of this year. That's backed up by further projects totaling around 12 GW across that entire platform. With that, I think three key pillars that we focus on in the business now, shareholding in Cloudberry and growing the value of that, the value of Karskruv, and the value of this development portfolio. I think it becomes a lot easier for investors to understand the true value within Orron Energy, and we can now clearly see the misplacement of that value relative to where our market cap is. With that, I'll pass over to Espen to run through the financials for Q2.
Speaker #2: And so with that, I think three key pillars that we focus on in the business now, shareholding in Cloudbury and growing the value of that, the value of Carscrew, and then the value of this development portfolio.
Speaker #2: And I think it becomes a lot easier for investors to understand the true value within Orron Energy. And we can now clearly see the misplacement of that value relative to where our market cap is.
Speaker #2: And so with that, I'll pass over to Espen to run through the financials for the second quarter.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Daniel. And good afternoon, everyone. I'll go through the financials for Q2. Obviously, this quarter is a bit different compared to previous quarters.
Espen Hennie: Thank you, Daniel, and good afternoon, everyone. I will go through the financials for Q2. Obviously, this quarter is a bit different compared to the previous quarters due to the Cloudberry transaction. As Dan already has mentioned, all the part of the business that will be divested to Cloudberry as part of the transaction is now classified as discontinued operations. The focus on this slide and the coming slides is then now on the continuing operations, which consist of the Karskruv wind farm and the European greenfield platform. If you want further information on discontinued operations, I would refer you to our quarterly financial report. Also going forward, post-closing, we will report our net share of the Cloudberry profit into our financial statements according to the equity method of accounting.
Espen Hennie: Thank you, Daniel, and good afternoon, everyone. I will go through the financials for Q2. Obviously, this quarter is a bit different compared to the previous quarters due to the Cloudberry transaction. As Dan already has mentioned, all the part of the business that will be divested to Cloudberry as part of the transaction is now classified as discontinued operations. The focus on this slide and the coming slides is then now on the continuing operations, which consist of the Karskruv wind farm and the European greenfield platform. If you want further information on discontinued operations, I would refer you to our quarterly financial report. Also going forward, post-closing, we will report our net share of the Cloudberry profit into our financial statements according to the equity method of accounting.
Speaker #1: Due to the Cloudbury transaction and as Daniel already has mentioned, all the part of the business that will be divested to Cloudbury as part of the transaction is now classified as discontinued operations.
Speaker #1: So, the focus on this slide and the coming slides is now on the continuing operations, which consist of the Carscrewn farm and the European Greenfield platform.
Speaker #1: If you want further information on discontinued, operations that then I would refer you to our quarterly financial report. And also going forward, post-closing, we will report our net share of the Cloudbury profit into our financial statements according to the equity method of accounting.
Speaker #1: Looking then at Q2, strong quarterly revenues: €6.2 million for the quarter, which is backed by a very solid performance from project sales. €3.7 million in project sales in Q2 is a record for the company.
Espen Hennie: Looking at Q2, strong quarterly revenues, EUR 6.2 million for the quarter, which is backed by a very solid performance from project sales, EUR 3.7 million of project sales in Q2, which is a record for the company. Our Q2 revenue is almost at par with Q1, where we saw record pricing in the Nordic region. EBITDA for the quarter, EUR 1.1 million. As Dan mentioned, it is important to keep in mind that this includes a cost of EUR 1.8 million related to the Sudan legal case. Going forward, our costs related to that will be a fraction of what we had in the quarters behind us since that trial ended in May, and we now expect a verdict late this year during December. Power generation, 46 GWh and achieved price of EUR 56 per MWh.
Espen Hennie: Looking at Q2, strong quarterly revenues, EUR 6.2 million for the quarter, which is backed by a very solid performance from project sales, EUR 3.7 million of project sales in Q2, which is a record for the company. Our Q2 revenue is almost at par with Q1, where we saw record pricing in the Nordic region. EBITDA for the quarter, EUR 1.1 million. As Dan mentioned, it is important to keep in mind that this includes a cost of EUR 1.8 million related to the Sudan legal case. Going forward, our costs related to that will be a fraction of what we had in the quarters behind us since that trial ended in May, and we now expect a verdict late this year during December. Power generation, 46 GWh and achieved price of EUR 56 per MWh.
Speaker #1: So our Q2 revenues then almost at par with Q1 where we saw a record pricing in the Nordic region. EBITDA for the quarter, 1.1 million euros.
Speaker #1: And as Dan mentioned, it's important to keep in mind that this includes a cost of 1.8 million euros related to the Sudan legal case.
Speaker #1: And going forward, our costs related to that will be a fraction of what we had in the quarters behind us since that trial ended in May and we now expect a verdict late this year during December.
Speaker #1: Power generation, 46 gigawatt hours. And achieved price of 56 euros per megawatt hour. We will go into that in a bit more detail at a later slide when we look at the breakdown of the achieved price for Carscrew.
Espen Hennie: We will go into that in a bit more detail at a later slide when we look at the breakdown of the achieved price for Karskruv. Net debt at the end of Q2, if we include the discontinued operations, was EUR 91 million. As I said before, at closing of the Cloudberry transaction, we expect to have a net debt position close to zero as EUR 93 million of debt as of year-end 2025 will be assumed or settled by Cloudberry. Leaving also in a very robust and healthy financial position and further backed by a EUR 50 million credit facility supported by the same group of banks that was in our previous facility, which provides us with a lot of flexibility and optionality for future business growth.
Espen Hennie: We will go into that in a bit more detail at a later slide when we look at the breakdown of the achieved price for Karskruv. Net debt at the end of Q2, if we include the discontinued operations, was EUR 91 million. As I said before, at closing of the Cloudberry transaction, we expect to have a net debt position close to zero as EUR 93 million of debt as of year-end 2025 will be assumed or settled by Cloudberry. Leaving also in a very robust and healthy financial position and further backed by a EUR 50 million credit facility supported by the same group of banks that was in our previous facility, which provides us with a lot of flexibility and optionality for future business growth.
Speaker #1: Net debt at the end of Q2 was, if we include the discontinued operations, was 91 million euros. And as I said before, at closing of the Cloudbury transaction, we expect to have a net debt position close to zero.
Speaker #1: As the €93 million of debt as of year-end ’25 will be assumed or settled by Cloudbury, leaving them also in a very robust and healthy financial position, and further backed by a €50 million credit facility supported by the same group of banks as in our previous facility.
Speaker #1: Which then provides us with a lot of flexibility and optionality for future business growth. Then I look at our 26 guidance. For continuing operations only, so for our Carscrew in farm and the European Greenfield platform, starting with power generation, we expect that to end up in between 210 and 270 gigawatt hours for the full year.
Espen Hennie: I look at our 2026 guidance for continuing operations only, so for our Karskruv wind farm and the European greenfield platform. Starting with power generation, we expect that to end up in between 210 and 270 GWh for the full year. Our H1 actuals were 113. As I mentioned, we are on track to end up close to the midpoint of that range. That range also takes into account weather impacts and price curtailment and ancillary services, as Dan said. Operating expenses for the full year, we expect that to total in between EUR 4 million and EUR 5 million, and this is purely related to Karskruv. Actuals for the first six months were over EUR 2.2 million. G&A for continuing operations, there also we expect full year cost of in between EUR 4 million and EUR 5 million.
Espen Hennie: I look at our 2026 guidance for continuing operations only, so for our Karskruv wind farm and the European greenfield platform. Starting with power generation, we expect that to end up in between 210 and 270 GWh for the full year. Our H1 actuals were 113. As I mentioned, we are on track to end up close to the midpoint of that range. That range also takes into account weather impacts and price curtailment and ancillary services, as Dan said. Operating expenses for the full year, we expect that to total in between EUR 4 million and EUR 5 million, and this is purely related to Karskruv. Actuals for the first six months were over EUR 2.2 million. G&A for continuing operations, there also we expect full year cost of in between EUR 4 million and EUR 5 million.
Speaker #1: And our first half year actuals were 113. So as Dan mentioned, we are on track to end up close to the midpoint of that range.
Speaker #1: And also that range also takes into account weather impacts and price containment and accelerate services as Dan said. Operating expenses for the full year, we expect that to total in between 4 and 5 million euros.
Speaker #1: And that this is then purely related to Carscrew. And actuals for the first six months were 2.2. GNA for continuing operations, they're also we expect full year cost of in between 4 and 5 million euros.
Speaker #1: And here also we had first half actuals of 2.2. So those supporting our full year outlook and so as you can see very much delivering in line with full year expectations on all parameters here.
Espen Hennie: Here also we had H1 actuals of EUR 2.2 million. Those are supporting our full year outlook. As you can see, very much delivering in line with full year expectations on all parameters here. Sudan legal costs, here we expect a full year cost of EUR 4.5 million. Here it is important to note that our actual cost for the first six months was EUR 4.1 million. Implicitly, we only expect EUR 400,000 of cost for H2, which represents a 90% drop in costs compared to H1, reflecting that, as I said earlier, the trial has ended in May, and now very limited cost exposure. As I said also, with verdict expected in December. CapEx, this is investments into our European greenfield platform, just maturing projects and making them ready for divestment processes.
Espen Hennie: Here also we had H1 actuals of EUR 2.2 million. Those are supporting our full year outlook. As you can see, very much delivering in line with full year expectations on all parameters here. Sudan legal costs, here we expect a full year cost of EUR 4.5 million. Here it is important to note that our actual cost for the first six months was EUR 4.1 million. Implicitly, we only expect EUR 400,000 of cost for H2, which represents a 90% drop in costs compared to H1, reflecting that, as I said earlier, the trial has ended in May, and now very limited cost exposure. As I said also, with verdict expected in December. CapEx, this is investments into our European greenfield platform, just maturing projects and making them ready for divestment processes.
Speaker #1: Sudan legal costs, here we expect a full year cost of 4.5 million euros. And here it's important to note that our actual cost for the first six months was 4.1 million euros.
Speaker #1: So, implicitly, we only expect then $400,000 of costs for the second half, which represents a 90% drop in costs compared to the first half. That reflects—as I said earlier—that the trial has ended; it ended in May.
Speaker #1: And now, very, very limited cost exposure, and as I said, also with the verdict expected in December. Capital expenditure—this is investments into our European Greenfield platform.
Speaker #1: Just maturing projects and making them ready for divestment processes. We have spent €4.2 million year to date, and we expect for the full year here to end up close to €8 million.
Espen Hennie: We have spent EUR 4.2 million year to date and expect for the full year here to end up close to EUR 8 million. As you also can see, year to date revenues actually exceed what we have allocated our capital into the greenfield platform year to date. As I said before, very strong start of the year from our greenfield platform. I look at some key financial metrics only for continuing operations. As I said before, if you start with revenues, here we are showing quarterly revenues going back to the same quarter last year. As I said, Q2 revenues almost at par with Q1, where we had record pricing throughout the Nordic region.
Espen Hennie: We have spent EUR 4.2 million year to date and expect for the full year here to end up close to EUR 8 million. As you also can see, year to date revenues actually exceed what we have allocated our capital into the greenfield platform year to date. As I said before, very strong start of the year from our greenfield platform. I look at some key financial metrics only for continuing operations. As I said before, if you start with revenues, here we are showing quarterly revenues going back to the same quarter last year. As I said, Q2 revenues almost at par with Q1, where we had record pricing throughout the Nordic region.
Speaker #1: And as you also can see, I mean, year to date revenues actually exceed what we have allocated or capital into the Greenfield platform year to date.
Speaker #1: So as I said before, very strong start of the year from our Greenfield platform. Then I look at some key financial metrics. Only for continuing operations, as I said before, if you start looking if you start with revenues, here we are showing quarterly revenues going back to the same quarter last year.
Speaker #1: And as I said, Q2 revenues almost at par with Q1 where we had record pricing throughout the Nordic region. And if you compare, if you do a year-over-year comparison, you can see a very significant increase to revenues of almost 4 million euros up, which is an explained by the contribution from project sales in Q2.
Espen Hennie: If you do a year-over-year comparison, you can see the very significant increase to revenues of almost EUR 4 million up, which is explained by the contribution from project sales in Q2. Whereas back in Q2 last year, we had yet to conclude our first divestment, which started in Q3. You're going to see we have had booked revenues in back-to-back quarters since then. We, like I said, all-time high of almost EUR 4 million in Q2. Same pattern and EBITDA close to the Q1 level, despite lower pricing and lower volumes throughout or in south of Sweden, supported by the project sales. If you do a year-over-year comparison, very material increase. I think the key takeaway on this slide is the dotted line where we have added back the Sudan legal costs. It's showing EBITDA excluding Sudan legal costs.
Espen Hennie: If you do a year-over-year comparison, you can see the very significant increase to revenues of almost EUR 4 million up, which is explained by the contribution from project sales in Q2. Whereas back in Q2 last year, we had yet to conclude our first divestment, which started in Q3. You're going to see we have had booked revenues in back-to-back quarters since then. We, like I said, all-time high of almost EUR 4 million in Q2. Same pattern and EBITDA close to the Q1 level, despite lower pricing and lower volumes throughout or in south of Sweden, supported by the project sales. If you do a year-over-year comparison, very material increase. I think the key takeaway on this slide is the dotted line where we have added back the Sudan legal costs. It's showing EBITDA excluding Sudan legal costs.
Speaker #1: Whereas back in Q2 last year, we had yet to conclude our first divestment, which then started in Q3 and then you're going to see we have had booked revenues in back-to-back quarters since then.
Speaker #1: We then, like I said, reached an all-time high of almost €4 million in Q2. Same pattern then for EBITDA, close to the Q1 level, despite lower pricing and lower volumes throughout, or in, south of Sweden.
Speaker #1: Supported by the project sales, and if you do a year-over-year comparison, there's a very material increase. I think the key takeaway on this slide is the dotted line.
Speaker #1: Where we have added back the Sudan legal costs. So it's showing EBITDA excluding Sudan legal costs. And as I said before, since we're now going forward, expect very marginal costs related to the Sudan case.
Espen Hennie: As I said before, since we now going forward expect very marginal costs related to the Sudan case, this presents a lot more representative picture of the potential for future EBITDA generation from our continuing operations. Over the last three quarters, that has been in between EUR 3 and 4 million on a quarterly basis. If we do a rolling 12 months, the last four quarters, EUR 11 million of EBITDA generation from our continuing operations, which is a very solid EBITDA contribution and provides us with future growth opportunities and a lot of robustness from a financial perspective. A look at achieved price for continuing operations. This is the achieved price for our Karskruv assets. The average system price for the H1 of 2026 was EUR 79 per megawatt hour.
Espen Hennie: As I said before, since we now going forward expect very marginal costs related to the Sudan case, this presents a lot more representative picture of the potential for future EBITDA generation from our continuing operations. Over the last three quarters, that has been in between EUR 3 and 4 million on a quarterly basis. If we do a rolling 12 months, the last four quarters, EUR 11 million of EBITDA generation from our continuing operations, which is a very solid EBITDA contribution and provides us with future growth opportunities and a lot of robustness from a financial perspective. A look at achieved price for continuing operations. This is the achieved price for our Karskruv assets. The average system price for the H1 of 2026 was EUR 79 per megawatt hour.
Speaker #1: This is a lot more representative presents a lot more representative picture of the potential for future EBITDA generation from our continuing operations. And over the last three quarters, that has been in between 3 and 4 million euros on a quarterly basis.
Speaker #1: And if you do a rolling 12 months, the last four quarters 11 million euros of EBITDA generation from our continuing operations. So which is a very solid EBITDA contribution and provides us then with future growth opportunities.
Speaker #1: And a lot of robustness from a financial perspective. Then I look at achieved price for continuing operations, so this is the achieved price for our Carscrew assets.
Speaker #1: The average system price for the first six months of 2026 was 79 euros per megawatt hour. This was supported by a very favorable market environment.
Espen Hennie: This was supported by very favorable market environment, obviously impacted by the geopolitical situation, a tight gas market, but also some other factors in the Nordic region, namely a very supportive hydrological balance and also a nuclear utilization, which has been below the average. We also expect these factors to continue for the coming months. Also strong outlook for pricing in the Nordics going forward, and maybe especially in the southern part of Sweden where Karskruv is located. If you look at the spot price relevant for Karskruv, the average SE4 price during the H1 was EUR 89, so a 12% premium to the average system price. Solid premium, but still actually a low premium in a historical context, but very important for our revenue contribution.
Espen Hennie: This was supported by very favorable market environment, obviously impacted by the geopolitical situation, a tight gas market, but also some other factors in the Nordic region, namely a very supportive hydrological balance and also a nuclear utilization, which has been below the average. We also expect these factors to continue for the coming months. Also strong outlook for pricing in the Nordics going forward, and maybe especially in the southern part of Sweden where Karskruv is located. If you look at the spot price relevant for Karskruv, the average SE4 price during the H1 was EUR 89, so a 12% premium to the average system price. Solid premium, but still actually a low premium in a historical context, but very important for our revenue contribution.
Speaker #1: Obviously, impacted by the geopolitical situation. A tight gas market, but also some other factors in the Nordic region, namely a very supportive hydrological balance.
Speaker #1: And also nuclear utilization, which has been below the average and we also expect these factors we expect to continue also for the coming months.
Speaker #1: So also strong outlook for pricing in the Nordics going forward and maybe especially in the southern part of Sweden where Carscrew is located. And if you look at the spot price relevant for Carscrew, the average SE4 price during the first six months was 89 euros.
Speaker #1: So, a 12% premium to the average system price—solid premium, but still actually a low premium in a historical context. But very important for our revenue contribution.
Speaker #1: And then, if you do the breakdown to our achieved price for the first six months, we had €1 of contribution from ancillary services and GOOs.
Espen Hennie: If you do the breakdown to our achieved price for H1, we had EUR 1 of contribution from ancillary services and GoOs. We had a negative impact from our hedges due to the very strong pricing. We had a loss on our hedges. Obviously, that is a favorable outcome. That's actually the outcome we want, as opposed to the other way around. That had a negative impact on our achieved prices. As I said before, those hedges are put in place to support the downside. Since we are not fully hedged, to lose on those is actually makes us better off than if we are ending up gaining on the hedges.
Espen Hennie: If you do the breakdown to our achieved price for H1, we had EUR 1 of contribution from ancillary services and GoOs. We had a negative impact from our hedges due to the very strong pricing. We had a loss on our hedges. Obviously, that is a favorable outcome. That's actually the outcome we want, as opposed to the other way around. That had a negative impact on our achieved prices. As I said before, those hedges are put in place to support the downside. Since we are not fully hedged, to lose on those is actually makes us better off than if we are ending up gaining on the hedges.
Speaker #1: And then we had a negative impact from our hedges. Due to the very strong pricing, we had a loss on our hedges. Obviously, that is not a favorable outcome.
Speaker #1: We want that's actually the outcome we want. As opposed to the other way around. So that had a negative impact on our achieved prices.
Speaker #1: As we said before, those hedges are put in place to support the downside. And since we're not fully hedged, to lose on those is actually makes us a better off than if we are ending up gaining on the hedges.
Speaker #1: Then we had a small capture price discount, less than 10%. Capture price discount on the first half year of 26. Resulting in an all-in achieved price for Carscrew of 70 euros per megawatt hour.
Espen Hennie: We had a small capture price discount, less than 10% capture price discount in H1 2026, resulting in an all-in achieved price for Karskruv of EUR 70 per megawatt hour. If we take a look back and look at the important variables impacting the achieved price for Karskruv, again, if we look at the right-hand side of the slide here, starting with the premium of the SE4 price region to the average system price in the Nordics. As I mentioned, it was 12% in H1 2026, which has been, as I said, low in a historical context. In 2025, it was more than 50%, 2024 almost 40%. If you look at the 10-year horizon from 2016 to 2025, the average premium has been 31%.
Espen Hennie: We had a small capture price discount, less than 10% capture price discount in H1 2026, resulting in an all-in achieved price for Karskruv of EUR 70 per megawatt hour. If we take a look back and look at the important variables impacting the achieved price for Karskruv, again, if we look at the right-hand side of the slide here, starting with the premium of the SE4 price region to the average system price in the Nordics. As I mentioned, it was 12% in H1 2026, which has been, as I said, low in a historical context. In 2025, it was more than 50%, 2024 almost 40%. If you look at the 10-year horizon from 2016 to 2025, the average premium has been 31%.
Speaker #1: And if we take a look back and look at the important variables impacting the achieved price for Carscrew, if you look at the right-hand side of the slide here, starting with the premium of the SE4 price region to the average system price in the Nordics.
Speaker #1: As I mentioned, it was 12% in the first half of 26. Which has been, as I said, low in a historical context in 25.
Speaker #1: It was more than 50%. Twenty-four, almost 40%. And if you look at the long-term average, the 10-year horizon from 2016 to 2025, the average premium has been 31%.
Speaker #1: So obviously, a very favorable location for wind farms in the Nordics, which we expect to support revenues also going forward. And then, capture price discount—another important variable for our revenues.
Espen Hennie: Obviously a very favorable location for a wind farm in the Nordics, which we expect to support revenues also going forward. Capture price discount, another important variable for our revenues, have seen a favorable trend over the last couple of years. 2024, we had a capture price discount of 22%, which dropped down to 12% in 2025, partly helped by price curtailment and then a very low capture price discount of 7% H1 2026. We have said in the past, prior to the Cloudberry transaction, looking at our portfolio then including the discontinued operations that we expected a long-term average for the capture price discount of in between 20% and 25%.
Espen Hennie: Obviously a very favorable location for a wind farm in the Nordics, which we expect to support revenues also going forward. Capture price discount, another important variable for our revenues, have seen a favorable trend over the last couple of years. 2024, we had a capture price discount of 22%, which dropped down to 12% in 2025, partly helped by price curtailment and then a very low capture price discount of 7% H1 2026. We have said in the past, prior to the Cloudberry transaction, looking at our portfolio then including the discontinued operations that we expected a long-term average for the capture price discount of in between 20% and 25%.
Speaker #1: Here we've seen a favorable trend over the last couple of years. 24, we had a capture price discount of 22%. Which dropped down to 12% in 25.
Speaker #1: Partly helped by price curtailment, and then very low capture price discount of 7% in the first half of '26. We have said in the past, prior to the Cloudbridge transaction, looking at our portfolio then— including the discontinued operations— that we expected a long-term average for the capture price discount of between 20% and 25%.
Speaker #1: Carscrew, as always, delivered a lower capture price discount—somewhat more favorable capture price discount than the average of the rest of the portfolio, partly due to location and all, but also due to the curtailment optionality.
Espen Hennie: Karskruv has always delivered a lower capture price discount, so a more favorable capture price discount than the average of the rest of the portfolio, partly due to location but also due to the curtailment optionality. On average, Karskruv has been in the order of 10 percentage points lower capture price discount compared to the rest of the portfolio. We think a more representative capture price discount going forward, but also keeping in mind that it will be volatile, especially on a quarterly basis. We think sort of more a representative expectation for Karskruv long-term is then more 10% to 15% as opposed to the 20% to 25% as we put forward for the portfolio prior to the Cloudberry transaction. With that, I'll hand over back to Daniel.
Espen Hennie: Karskruv has always delivered a lower capture price discount, so a more favorable capture price discount than the average of the rest of the portfolio, partly due to location but also due to the curtailment optionality. On average, Karskruv has been in the order of 10 percentage points lower capture price discount compared to the rest of the portfolio. We think a more representative capture price discount going forward, but also keeping in mind that it will be volatile, especially on a quarterly basis. We think sort of more a representative expectation for Karskruv long-term is then more 10% to 15% as opposed to the 20% to 25% as we put forward for the portfolio prior to the Cloudberry transaction. With that, I'll hand over back to Daniel.
Speaker #1: So on average, that sort of that low on average Carscrew has been in the order of 10 percentage points lower capture price discount compared to the rest of the portfolio.
Speaker #1: So, we think a more representative capture price discount going forward, but also keeping in mind that it will be volatile, especially on a quarterly basis.
Speaker #1: We think sort of a more a representative expectation for Carscrew long-term is then more 10 to 15% as opposed to the 20 to 25 as we put forward for the portfolio prior to the cloud bridge transaction.
Speaker #1: So with that, I'll hand the word back to Daniel.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Espen. And just one quick slide to sum up. I think I hope we've made it clear on the value proposition within Orron Energy.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Thank you, Espen. Just one quick slide to sum up, I think. I hope we have made it clear on the value proposition within Orron Energy, the Cloudberry transaction does a number of things for us. One, it creates The Nordic listed, Nordic-focused leading IPP in Cloudberry, 2 TWh of production, the ability to integrate all of the disciplines from early stage development to construction, to repowering, life extension, hybridization, batteries, data centers, new renewable projects, hydro, solar, and wind. It creates a really fantastic company. For Orron Energy alone, that value of 27% in Cloudberry represents more than 80% of our share price as it stands right now. That really is an element that's marked to market, it's simple to value, and you can understand where that value is relative to where we're trading.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Thank you, Espen. Just one quick slide to sum up, I think. I hope we have made it clear on the value proposition within Orron Energy, the Cloudberry transaction does a number of things for us. One, it creates The Nordic listed, Nordic-focused leading IPP in Cloudberry, 2 TWh of production, the ability to integrate all of the disciplines from early stage development to construction, to repowering, life extension, hybridization, batteries, data centers, new renewable projects, hydro, solar, and wind. It creates a really fantastic company. For Orron Energy alone, that value of 27% in Cloudberry represents more than 80% of our share price as it stands right now. That really is an element that's marked to market, it's simple to value, and you can understand where that value is relative to where we're trading.
Speaker #2: And I think the cloud bridge transaction does a number of things for us. One, it creates the Nordic listed Nordic focused leading IPP in cloud bridge.
Speaker #2: Two terawatt hours of production. The ability to integrate all of the disciplines from early stage development to construction to repowering, life extension, hybridization, batteries, data centers, new renewable projects, hydro, solar, and wind.
Speaker #2: So it creates a really fantastic company. And then for Orron Energy, alone that represents that value of 27% in cloud bridge represents more than 80% of our share price as it stands right now.
Speaker #2: So that really is an element that's mark-to-market. It's simple to value, and you can understand where that value is relative to where we're trading.
Speaker #2: And the rest of the portfolio, whether it's the greenfield business, which we touched on a bit more, the optionality and the revenue generation coming out of that, the strategic pivot a little bit into data centers to add those into the core business, really gives us a strong platform.
Daniel Fitzgerald: The rest of the portfolio, whether it's the greenfield business, which we touched on a bit more, the optionality and the revenue generation coming out of that, the strategic pivot a little bit into data centers to add those into the core business really gives us a strong platform. Karskruv is a fantastic asset delivering long-term cash flows, and if I just look at the Cloudberry stake plus Karskruv, I get to somewhere that's almost a doubling of where the share price sits today without any value for the rest. When I look at Sudan, we've finished now in the district court. We expect a verdict that's in our favor and the EUR 76 million or just north of SEK 800 million that we've claimed in terms of reimbursement represents between two and a half and three SEK a share in terms of the value today.
Daniel Fitzgerald: The rest of the portfolio, whether it's the greenfield business, which we touched on a bit more, the optionality and the revenue generation coming out of that, the strategic pivot a little bit into data centers to add those into the core business really gives us a strong platform. Karskruv is a fantastic asset delivering long-term cash flows, and if I just look at the Cloudberry stake plus Karskruv, I get to somewhere that's almost a doubling of where the share price sits today without any value for the rest. When I look at Sudan, we've finished now in the district court. We expect a verdict that's in our favor and the EUR 76 million or just north of SEK 800 million that we've claimed in terms of reimbursement represents between two and a half and three SEK a share in terms of the value today.
Speaker #2: Carscrew is a fantastic asset, delivering long-term cash flows. And if I just look at the Cloud Bridge stake plus Carscrew, I get to somewhere that's almost a doubling of where the share price sits today, without any value for the rest.
Speaker #2: When I look at Sudan with finished now in the district court, we expect a verdict that's in our favor. And the 76 million euros or 800 just north of 800 million SEC that we've claimed in terms of reimbursement represents between two and a half and three SEC a share.
Speaker #2: In terms of the value today. So when I add up all of the sum of the parts, I end up significantly in excess of where the share price is trading today.
Daniel Fitzgerald: When I add up all of the sum of the parts, I end up significantly in excess of where the share price is trading today. We do that with a very clean and solid balance sheet with almost zero net debt post-closing of the transaction. We believe Orron Energy's in a fantastic place today. We have a lot of upside and optionality that we expect to deliver on in the coming quarters. The value is underpinned by that share in Cloudberry, which is a fantastic Nordic platform growing in this space. With that, I'll pass over to Jenny and we'll move through the Q&A.
Daniel Fitzgerald: When I add up all of the sum of the parts, I end up significantly in excess of where the share price is trading today. We do that with a very clean and solid balance sheet with almost zero net debt post-closing of the transaction. We believe Orron Energy's in a fantastic place today. We have a lot of upside and optionality that we expect to deliver on in the coming quarters. The value is underpinned by that share in Cloudberry, which is a fantastic Nordic platform growing in this space. With that, I'll pass over to Jenny and we'll move through the Q&A.
Speaker #2: And we do that with a very, very clean and solid balance sheet with almost zero net debt post closing of the transaction. So we believe Orron Energy is in a fantastic place today.
Speaker #2: We have a lot of upside and optionality that we expect to deliver on in the coming quarters. And then the value is underpinned by that share in cloud bridge, which is a fantastic Nordic platform growing in this space.
Speaker #2: And so with that, I'll pass over to Jenny, and we'll move through the Q&A.
Speaker #3: Yes, thank you very much. For anyone joining us online, feel free to send across questions. We already have a lot of good questions. But if you're joining us and you haven't already submitted your questions, then now is a good time to do so.
Jenny Sandström: Yes, thank you very much. For anyone joining us online, feel free to send across questions. We already have a lot of good questions, if you're joining us and you haven't already submitted your questions, now is a good time to do so. Let's start with one question around the stock price. Very surprised that the stock market doesn't recognize the value of Orron in the stock value. What would be the trigger for the stock to close the gap between value and price?
Jenny Sandström: Yes, thank you very much. For anyone joining us online, feel free to send across questions. We already have a lot of good questions, if you're joining us and you haven't already submitted your questions, now is a good time to do so. Let's start with one question around the stock price. Very surprised that the stock market doesn't recognize the value of Orron in the stock value. What would be the trigger for the stock to close the gap between value and price?
Speaker #3: We've got—let's start with one question around the stock price. I'm very surprised that the stock market doesn't recognize the value of Orron in the stock value.
Speaker #3: What would be the trigger for the stock to close the gap between value and price?
Speaker #2: I think I'll pass that question back to shareholders to answer. I think inside our share, we've always traded with some discount to underlying NAV.
Daniel Fitzgerald: I think I'll pass that question back to shareholders to answer. I think inside our share, we've always traded with some discount to underlying NAV, and I think it's obviously something we're working on to try and close that gap between NAV and the value of the assets. I think the Cloudberry transaction really demonstrates the value of our assets on the market. When I look at the value of Karskruv or the value of what we've done, it's multiples on where the share price is today. I think we're putting all of the information forward to allow shareholders to make a decision. The second element will be on the back of the Sudan outcome. I think a range of investors are waiting to see the end of the Sudan trial to see the verdict.
Daniel Fitzgerald: I think I'll pass that question back to shareholders to answer. I think inside our share, we've always traded with some discount to underlying NAV, and I think it's obviously something we're working on to try and close that gap between NAV and the value of the assets. I think the Cloudberry transaction really demonstrates the value of our assets on the market. When I look at the value of Karskruv or the value of what we've done, it's multiples on where the share price is today. I think we're putting all of the information forward to allow shareholders to make a decision. The second element will be on the back of the Sudan outcome. I think a range of investors are waiting to see the end of the Sudan trial to see the verdict.
Speaker #2: And I think it's obviously something we're working on to try and close that gap between NAV and the value of the assets. And I think the cloud bridge transaction really, really demonstrates the value of our assets on the market.
Speaker #2: When I look at the value of Carscrew or the value of what we've done, it's multiples on where the share price is today. So I think we're putting all of the information forward to allow shareholders to make a decision.
Speaker #2: And the second element will be on the back of the Sudan outcome, I think a range of investors are waiting to see the end of the Sudan trial to see the verdict.
Speaker #2: And on the back of that, I see a significant re-rating in our stock price. As we move into a much cleaner investment story.
Daniel Fitzgerald: On the back of that, I see a significant re-rating in our stock price as we move into a much cleaner investment story.
Daniel Fitzgerald: On the back of that, I see a significant re-rating in our stock price as we move into a much cleaner investment story.
Speaker #3: Thank you very much. There's also a few questions around the transaction. Why was the cloud bridge deal considered the best way to create value for your shareholders?
Jenny Sandström: Thank you very much. There's also a few questions around the transaction. Why was the Cloudberry deal considered the best way to create value for your shareholders?
Jenny Sandström: Thank you very much. There's also a few questions around the transaction. Why was the Cloudberry deal considered the best way to create value for your shareholders?
Speaker #2: Yeah, I think we've always, as I said in the presentation, we've always viewed this sector as somewhere where we need scale and size. And we've been working for a long period to grow that scale.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Yeah, as I said in the presentation, we've always viewed this sector as somewhere where we need scale and size. We've been working for a long period to grow that scale. We've been moving in a range of acquisitions, I think creating a Nordic champion, the leading Nordic listed and Nordic-focused platform is really important, whether it's us acquiring or merging with Cloudberry or some others. I think this opportunity in terms of timing, in terms of valuation, in terms of us becoming a strategic owner in Cloudberry, allows us to do all of that. It creates a fantastic platform, fantastic company, and it gives us a clear mark to market in our share price to understand the value.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Yeah, as I said in the presentation, we've always viewed this sector as somewhere where we need scale and size. We've been working for a long period to grow that scale. We've been moving in a range of acquisitions, I think creating a Nordic champion, the leading Nordic listed and Nordic-focused platform is really important, whether it's us acquiring or merging with Cloudberry or some others. I think this opportunity in terms of timing, in terms of valuation, in terms of us becoming a strategic owner in Cloudberry, allows us to do all of that. It creates a fantastic platform, fantastic company, and it gives us a clear mark to market in our share price to understand the value.
Speaker #2: We've been moving in a range of acquisitions, and I think creating a Nordic champion—the leading, Nordic-listed and Nordic-focused platform—is really important.
Speaker #2: Whether it's us acquiring or merging with cloud bridge or some others. And I think this opportunity in terms of timing, in terms of valuation, in terms of us becoming a strategic owner in cloud bridge, allows us to do all of that.
Speaker #2: It creates a fantastic platform, a fantastic company, and it gives us a clear mark-to-market in our share price to understand the value. We also have, within Cloud Bridge, the ability to use the equity to grow that business.
Daniel Fitzgerald: We also have within Cloudberry, the ability to use the equity to grow that business, and that option's been off the table for Orron Energy, given the discount to value and the Sudan case. This allows us to have a shareholding in Cloudberry, which is then allowed to use its, or can effectively use its equity to grow if it's value accretive for the company.
Daniel Fitzgerald: We also have within Cloudberry, the ability to use the equity to grow that business, and that option's been off the table for Orron Energy, given the discount to value and the Sudan case. This allows us to have a shareholding in Cloudberry, which is then allowed to use its, or can effectively use its equity to grow if it's value accretive for the company.
Speaker #2: And that option's been off the table for Orron Energy, given the discount to value and the Sudan case. And so this allows us to have a shareholding in Cloud Bridge, which is then allowed to use its—or can effectively use its—equity to grow if it's value-accretive for the company.
Speaker #3: And why was Carscrew not included in the cloud bridge deal?
Jenny Sandström: Why was Karskruv not included in the Cloudberry deal?
Jenny Sandström: Why was Karskruv not included in the Cloudberry deal?
Speaker #2: Yeah, I think it's a good question why isn't this a full merger. I think two key elements to that. One, the retention of Carscrew allows us to continue to fund our growth and fund our greenfield business and provides a platform to do that.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Yeah, I think it's a good question. Why isn't this a full merger? I think two key elements to that. One, the retention of Karskruv allows us to continue to fund our growth and fund our greenfield business and provides a platform to do that. The second element is, had we included Karskruv into the Cloudberry transaction, it would've pushed us above a threshold in Norway, which meant we would have had to make a mandatory bid for the remainder of the Cloudberry business. Obviously there's no means of doing that within Orron Energy post the transaction.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Yeah, I think it's a good question. Why isn't this a full merger? I think two key elements to that. One, the retention of Karskruv allows us to continue to fund our growth and fund our greenfield business and provides a platform to do that. The second element is, had we included Karskruv into the Cloudberry transaction, it would've pushed us above a threshold in Norway, which meant we would have had to make a mandatory bid for the remainder of the Cloudberry business. Obviously there's no means of doing that within Orron Energy post the transaction.
Speaker #2: The second element is had we included cloud bridge Carscrew into the cloud bridge transaction, it would have pushed us above a threshold in Norway, which meant we would have had to make a mandatory bid for the remainder of the cloud bridge business.
Speaker #2: And obviously there's no means of doing that within Orron Energy post the transaction. And so both on a technicality and then strategically because of where we want to continue to grow our development business and potentially deploy more capital into that space over time, it allows us to do both of those or treat both of those elements in the right way.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Both on a technicality and then strategically because of where we want to continue to grow our development business and potentially deploy more capital into that space over time, it allows us to do both of those or treat both of those elements in the right way, hence the exclusion of Karskruv from the Cloudberry deal.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Both on a technicality and then strategically because of where we want to continue to grow our development business and potentially deploy more capital into that space over time, it allows us to do both of those or treat both of those elements in the right way, hence the exclusion of Karskruv from the Cloudberry deal.
Speaker #2: Hence, the exclusion of Carscrew from the cloud bridge deal.
Speaker #3: And why are you not looking at solar or data center projects in Sweden? Are you no longer growing in Sweden, or what's the strategy there?
Jenny Sandström: Why are you not looking at solar or data center projects in Sweden? Are you no longer growing in Sweden or what's the strategy there?
Jenny Sandström: Why are you not looking at solar or data center projects in Sweden? Are you no longer growing in Sweden or what's the strategy there?
Speaker #2: Yeah, we're still growing. So we have a range of solar projects in Sweden. We have data centers, we have batteries, and that portfolio will stay with our Nordic business and be a part of Cloud Bridge.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Yeah, we're still growing. We have a range of solar projects in Sweden. We have data centers, we have batteries, and that portfolio will stay with our Nordic business and be a part of Cloudberry. The reality for solar in the Nordics, it's still challenging to make it economically viable, so it's on the edge economically. It doesn't mean we're not developing those projects and taking them forward and managing our cost base. The Nordics is a fantastic location for data centers, and I'm looking forward to seeing our business combined with Cloudberry, giving the ability to go and grow that data center business from within the combined entity going forward. We have a range of projects in that space, as do Cloudberry, and I think as they get closer to maturity, you'll start to hear more about those.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Yeah, we're still growing. We have a range of solar projects in Sweden. We have data centers, we have batteries, and that portfolio will stay with our Nordic business and be a part of Cloudberry. The reality for solar in the Nordics, it's still challenging to make it economically viable, so it's on the edge economically. It doesn't mean we're not developing those projects and taking them forward and managing our cost base. The Nordics is a fantastic location for data centers, and I'm looking forward to seeing our business combined with Cloudberry, giving the ability to go and grow that data center business from within the combined entity going forward. We have a range of projects in that space, as do Cloudberry, and I think as they get closer to maturity, you'll start to hear more about those.
Speaker #2: The reality for solar in the Nordics, it's still challenging to make it economically viable. So it's on the edge economically. But it doesn't mean we're not developing those projects and taking them forward and managing our cost base.
Speaker #2: The Nordics is a fantastic location for data centers and I'm looking forward to seeing our business combined with cloud bridge giving the ability to go and grow that data center business from within the combined entity going forwards.
Speaker #2: We have a range of projects in that space as do cloud bridge. And I think as they get closer to maturity, you'll start to hear more about those.
Speaker #3: Can you give a timeline or status of the 1.8 gigawatt sales process in the UK and 300 megawatt project?
Jenny Sandström: Can you give a timeline or status of the 1.8 GW sales process in the UK and 300 MW project?
Jenny Sandström: Can you give a timeline or status of the 1.8 GW sales process in the UK and 300 MW project?
Speaker #2: Yeah, we have an ongoing sales process for that 1.8 gigawatt portfolio of solar in that there's a 300 megawatt solar project. And then we also have a standalone 300 megawatt data center project.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Yeah, we have an ongoing sales process for that 1.8 GW portfolio of solar. In that, there's a 300 MW solar project, and then we also have a standalone 300 MW data center project. We're not going to comment a lot on the details of those transactions. We have a range of bids on the solar package, and we've only just launched on the data center package, and we'll come back to the market when we have news to share on the outcome of those processes.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Yeah, we have an ongoing sales process for that 1.8 GW portfolio of solar. In that, there's a 300 MW solar project, and then we also have a standalone 300 MW data center project. We're not going to comment a lot on the details of those transactions. We have a range of bids on the solar package, and we've only just launched on the data center package, and we'll come back to the market when we have news to share on the outcome of those processes.
Speaker #2: We're not going to comment a lot on the details of those transactions. We have a range of bids on the solar package, and we've only just launched on the data center package.
Speaker #2: And we'll come back to the market when we have news to share on the outcome of those processes.
Speaker #3: Excellent. The delayed Agri-PV project in Germany—could you give us some color on what the delay means for the future sale of the project?
Jenny Sandström: Excellent. The delayed Agri-PV project in Germany, could you give us some color on what the delay means for future sale of the project?
Jenny Sandström: Excellent. The delayed Agri-PV project in Germany, could you give us some color on what the delay means for future sale of the project?
Speaker #2: Yeah, we sold at the end of last year. We sold three solar projects to Gulamac. And we had a range of deliverables. And it's taken us slightly longer to secure the grid for those specific projects, which is meant under the current construct, they don't participate in that transaction.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Yeah. At the end of last year, we sold three solar projects to Gülermak, and we had a range of deliverables, and it's taken us slightly longer to secure the grid for those specific projects, which has meant under their current construct, they don't participate in that transaction. We expect those to re-enter the market in H2 of this year. We'll update once we have more details on the sales processes. We'll update the market as we normally do.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Yeah. At the end of last year, we sold three solar projects to Gülermak, and we had a range of deliverables, and it's taken us slightly longer to secure the grid for those specific projects, which has meant under their current construct, they don't participate in that transaction. We expect those to re-enter the market in H2 of this year. We'll update once we have more details on the sales processes. We'll update the market as we normally do.
Speaker #2: We expect those to re-enter the market in the second half of this year. And we'll update once we have more details on the sales processes.
Speaker #2: We'll update the market as we normally do.
Speaker #3: Great. And then in terms of the German Energy Hubs, when do you expect to launch the sale of these and do you have a timeline for a future sale?
Jenny Sandström: Great. In terms of the German energy hubs, when do you expect to launch the sale of these? Do you have a timeline for a future sale?
Jenny Sandström: Great. In terms of the German energy hubs, when do you expect to launch the sale of these? Do you have a timeline for a future sale?
Speaker #2: Yeah, the project is live. So very, very recently live. I'd say end of July. The portfolio went into the market too early to say exactly what the outcome is going to be.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Yeah, the project is live, so very recently live. I'd say end of July, the portfolio went into the market. Too early to say exactly what the outcome is going to be. We'll need to let that process run its course. We'll come back when we have the outcome of that. You should expect it in H2 of this year for sure.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Yeah, the project is live, so very recently live. I'd say end of July, the portfolio went into the market. Too early to say exactly what the outcome is going to be. We'll need to let that process run its course. We'll come back when we have the outcome of that. You should expect it in H2 of this year for sure.
Speaker #2: We'll need to let that process run its course, and then we'll come back when we have the outcome of that. You should expect it in the second half of this year, for sure.
Jenny Sandström: Going to data centers, given your power grid expertise, how far up the data center value chain can you go? Why stop at selling projects and not building them out and selling at a later stage?
Speaker #3: And then going to data centers, given your power grid expertise, how far up the data center value chain can you go? Why stop at selling projects and not building them out and selling at a later stage?
Jenny Sandström: Going to data centers, given your power grid expertise, how far up the data center value chain can you go? Why stop at selling projects and not building them out and selling at a later stage?
Speaker #2: Yeah, we have this discussion routinely within the solar projects, battery projects, and now data center projects. So there's no doubt that we have the capability to build it all the way out.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Yeah, we have this discussion routinely within the solar projects, battery projects, and now data center projects. There's no doubt that we have the capability to build it all the way out. However, the CapEx needs for data centers are an order of magnitude bigger than what we're able to do. We want to ensure that we have some revenues coming in to ensure that we don't take full market risk on all of this with the entire company. Like the solar projects and the strategy so far, you should expect us to see some form of revenue recognition, then redeploy that capital into carrying projects further and continuing to grow our business.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Yeah, we have this discussion routinely within the solar projects, battery projects, and now data center projects. There's no doubt that we have the capability to build it all the way out. However, the CapEx needs for data centers are an order of magnitude bigger than what we're able to do. We want to ensure that we have some revenues coming in to ensure that we don't take full market risk on all of this with the entire company. Like the solar projects and the strategy so far, you should expect us to see some form of revenue recognition, then redeploy that capital into carrying projects further and continuing to grow our business.
Speaker #2: However, the CAPEX needs for data centers are an order of magnitude bigger than what we're able to do. So we want to ensure that we have some revenues coming in to ensure that we don't take full market risk on all of this with the entire company.
Speaker #2: And so like the solar projects and the strategy so far, you should expect us to see some form of revenue recognition and then redeploy that capital into carrying projects further and continuing to grow our business.
Speaker #3: And there's a lot of ongoing activities in the EU to promote the green transition, such as electrification, battery investments. Is this something you notice in your operations and developments?
Jenny Sandström: There's a lot of ongoing activities in the EU to promote the green transition, such as electrification, and battery investments. Is this something you notice in your operations and developments?
Jenny Sandström: There's a lot of ongoing activities in the EU to promote the green transition, such as electrification, and battery investments. Is this something you notice in your operations and developments?
Speaker #2: Yeah, I think absolutely across the EU, certainly Germany and UK, there's huge ambition to continue down the pathway of deploying renewables and greening the grid.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Yeah, I think absolutely. Across the EU, certainly Germany and UK, there's huge ambition to continue down the pathway of deploying renewables and greening the grid. We're also in the same journey, seeing huge constraints from the grid perspective with a flood of demand projects around data centers and other demand, but also the renewable space. This concept of an energy hub, I think, is really important as we look towards not only meeting the needs of future society, both from a power and internet data center perspective, but also from a grid and infrastructure perspective. What we're putting forward is a campus that essentially generates its own power, consumes its own power, and uses the grid for the bit in the middle. That's going to deliver a lot of stability back towards grid.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Yeah, I think absolutely. Across the EU, certainly Germany and UK, there's huge ambition to continue down the pathway of deploying renewables and greening the grid. We're also in the same journey, seeing huge constraints from the grid perspective with a flood of demand projects around data centers and other demand, but also the renewable space. This concept of an energy hub, I think, is really important as we look towards not only meeting the needs of future society, both from a power and internet data center perspective, but also from a grid and infrastructure perspective. What we're putting forward is a campus that essentially generates its own power, consumes its own power, and uses the grid for the bit in the middle. That's going to deliver a lot of stability back towards grid.
Speaker #2: But we're also in the same journey seeing huge constraints from the grid perspective with a flood of demand projects around data centers and other demand, but also the renewable space.
Speaker #2: And so this concept of an energy hub, I think, is really important as we look towards not only meeting the needs of future society, both from a power and internet data center perspective, but also from a grid and infrastructure perspective.
Speaker #2: And what we're putting forward is a campus that essentially generates its own power, consumes its own power, and uses the grid for the bit in the middle.
Speaker #2: And that's going to deliver a lot of stability back towards grid. It's going to deliver a lot of stability towards society in terms of the power generation, power pricing, but then more importantly for the demand centers, it provides a route to generating their own power.
Daniel Fitzgerald: It's going to deliver a lot of stability towards society in terms of the power generation, power pricing. More importantly, for the demand centers, it provides a route to generating their own power, hedging the cost, and having certainty over the supply of power. Energy hubs, I see as a really important element going forward, and we see the legislation and reform moving alongside that journey.
Daniel Fitzgerald: It's going to deliver a lot of stability towards society in terms of the power generation, power pricing. More importantly, for the demand centers, it provides a route to generating their own power, hedging the cost, and having certainty over the supply of power. Energy hubs, I see as a really important element going forward, and we see the legislation and reform moving alongside that journey.
Speaker #2: Hedging the cost and having certainty over the supply of power. So energy hubs I see as a really important element going forwards. And we see the legislation and reform moving alongside that journey.
Speaker #3: And going into hedging, do you have any hedges on Carscrew moving forward and the remaining production?
Jenny Sandström: Going into hedging, do you have any hedges on Karskruv moving forward and the remaining production?
Jenny Sandström: Going into hedging, do you have any hedges on Karskruv moving forward and the remaining production?
Speaker #2: Yes, we have some hedges, some base load hedges for Carscrew. Actually, the same hedges that we had at the end of Q1. So we have disclosed them in our quarterly reports.
Espen Hennie: Yes. We have some hedges, some baseload hedges for Karskruv. Actually, the same hedges that we had at the end of Q1. I disclose them in our quarterly reports. You can find all the details there on volumes and the price levels for Q3 and Q4 are not added to the position since we announced the Cloudberry transaction. We have now hedges up until year-end 2026 and nothing beyond that as we speak.
Espen Hennie: Yes. We have some hedges, some baseload hedges for Karskruv. Actually, the same hedges that we had at the end of Q1. I disclose them in our quarterly reports. You can find all the details there on volumes and the price levels for Q3 and Q4 are not added to the position since we announced the Cloudberry transaction. We have now hedges up until year-end 2026 and nothing beyond that as we speak.
Speaker #2: You can find all the details there on volumes and the price levels for Q3 and Q4. We have not added to the position since we announced the Cloud Bridge transaction.
Speaker #2: So we have now hedges up until year end 26 and nothing beyond that as we speak.
Speaker #3: And the final question then, how do you see the short and long term position and strategy for Orron?
Jenny Sandström: The final question, how do you see the short and long-term position and strategy for Orron?
Jenny Sandström: The final question, how do you see the short and long-term position and strategy for Orron?
Speaker #2: Yeah, I think short term we've laid out the key themes for the business. So cloud bridge transaction, we need to close that transaction, which we expect within Q3, integrate the businesses, and then support the growth of cloud bridge as an active shareholder.
Daniel Fitzgerald: I think short term, we've laid out the key themes for the business. Cloudberry transaction, we need to close that transaction, which we expect within Q3, integrate the businesses, and then support the growth of Cloudberry as an active shareholder. Karskruv is delivering as it should, as expected. The greenfield business really is a big focus for the H2 of this year. We've built a fantastic platform, and we now need to see the value delivery out of that platform, which is coming with a range of projects in the market and a range of projects maturing. We see the outcome of the Sudan trial at the end of this year. Next six months to 12 months is really key around Cloudberry, greenfield development, and Sudan. We'll come back to the market later on with the direction for growth and continued growth.
Daniel Fitzgerald: I think short term, we've laid out the key themes for the business. Cloudberry transaction, we need to close that transaction, which we expect within Q3, integrate the businesses, and then support the growth of Cloudberry as an active shareholder. Karskruv is delivering as it should, as expected. The greenfield business really is a big focus for the H2 of this year. We've built a fantastic platform, and we now need to see the value delivery out of that platform, which is coming with a range of projects in the market and a range of projects maturing. We see the outcome of the Sudan trial at the end of this year. Next six months to 12 months is really key around Cloudberry, greenfield development, and Sudan. We'll come back to the market later on with the direction for growth and continued growth.
Speaker #2: Carscrew is delivering as it should, as expected. The greenfield business really is a big focus for the second half of this year. We've built a fantastic platform.
Speaker #2: And we now need to see the value delivery out of that platform, which is coming with a range of projects in the market and a range of projects maturing.
Speaker #2: And then we see the outcome of the Sudan trial at the end of this year. So next six months to 12 months is really, really key around cloud bridge, greenfield development, and Sudan.
Speaker #2: And then we'll come back to the market later on with the direction for growth and continued growth. We're active in a lot of markets.
Daniel Fitzgerald: We're active in a lot of markets. We're active on the M&A space, and I think you've seen that in our history that we continue to find very accretive things to do for shareholders, we will continue down that pathway with all of the key pillars of our business.
Daniel Fitzgerald: We're active in a lot of markets. We're active on the M&A space, and I think you've seen that in our history that we continue to find very accretive things to do for shareholders, we will continue down that pathway with all of the key pillars of our business.
Speaker #2: We're active on the M&A space. And I think you've seen that in our history that we continue to find very accreted things to do for shareholders.
Speaker #2: And so we will continue down that pathway with all of the key pillars of our business.
Speaker #3: Thank you very much. If there are no further questions, I would like to thank everyone for joining us today. And you know where to find us in case there's something that comes up or something comes to mind, any questions afterwards, you feel free to reach out.
Jenny Sandström: Thank you very much. If there are no further questions, I would like to thank everyone for joining us today. You know where to find us in case there's something that comes up or something comes to mind, any questions afterwards, feel free to reach out, and we're more than happy to answer. Have a lovely afternoon, everyone, and great summer ahead.
Jenny Sandström: Thank you very much. If there are no further questions, I would like to thank everyone for joining us today. You know where to find us in case there's something that comes up or something comes to mind, any questions afterwards, feel free to reach out, and we're more than happy to answer. Have a lovely afternoon, everyone, and great summer ahead.
Speaker #3: And we're more than happy to answer. So have a lovely afternoon, everyone, and great summer ahead.
Speaker #2: Thank you very much.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Thank you very much.
Daniel Fitzgerald: Thank you very much.
Espen Hennie: Thank you.
Espen Hennie: Thank you.
