Q2 2026 Ultragenyx Pharmaceutical Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #1: To ask questions during the Q&A portion of the call. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Joshua Higa, Chief of Staff and Vice President of Investor Relations.
Speaker #2: Thank you. We have issued a press release detailing our financial results, which you can find on our website at ultragenyx.com. Joining me on this call are Emil Kakkis, Chief Executive Officer and President; Howard Horn, Chief Financial Officer; Eric Harris, Chief Commercial Officer; and Erik Crombez, Chief Medical Officer.
Speaker #2: I'd like to remind everyone that during today's call we will be making forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, and are actual results may differ materially.
Speaker #2: Please refer to the risk factors discussed in our latest SEC filings. I'll now turn the call over to Emil.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Josh, and good afternoon, everyone. In the second quarter, we continued our pattern of strong execution across the development and commercial organizations. The commercial teams delivered the highest quarterly revenue in the history of the company, which supports our reaffirmed full-year revenue guidance.
Speaker #3: As they have done in prior quarters, they continue to find new patience and expand access to Chris Vita, Diljolvi, Abkisa, and Mepsevi around the world.
Speaker #1: Good afternoon, and welcome to the Ultragenyx second quarter 2026 financial results conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. At the end of the prepared remarks, you will have an opportunity to ask questions during the Q&A portion of the call.
Speaker #3: The commercial and field teams are also preparing for our first two potential gene therapy launches. We are anticipating the coming months. If approved, both these therapies would represent first-ever treatments for diseases with significant unmet needs and high urgency to treat.
Speaker #1: pleasure to turn the call over to Joshua Higa, Chief of Staff and Vice President of Investor Relations.
Speaker #3: The PDUPA date for DTX401 for GSD1A is just a few weeks away. Patients with GSD1A have to drink a flurry of cornstarch every few hours around the clock, day and night, knowing that a single missed dose could lead to their death.
Speaker #2: Thank you. We have issued a press release detailing our financial results, which you can find on our website at ultragenyx.com. Joining me on this call are Emil Kakkis, Chief Executive Officer and President; Howard Horn, Chief Financial Officer; Erik Harris, Chief Commercial Officer; and Eric Crombez, Chief Medical Officer.
Speaker #3: This is a constant reminder of their disease and the serious consequence of missing a dose. In our Phase 1, 2, and Phase 3 studies, patients treated with DTX401 have been able to significantly reduce the amount and frequency of cornstarch doses to a pre-specified clinically meaningful degree.
Speaker #2: I'd like to remind everyone that during today's call, we will be making forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, and our actual results may differ materially.
Speaker #2: Please refer to the risk factors discussed in our latest SEC filings. I'll now turn the call over to Emil.
Speaker #3: More importantly, this gene therapy allows patients to have a more normal glucose metabolism, staying in the normal range at larger fractions of the day.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Josh, and good afternoon, everyone. In the second quarter, we continued our pattern of strong execution across the development and commercial organizations. The commercial teams delivered the highest quarterly revenue in the history of the company, which supports our reaffirmed full-year revenue guidance.
Speaker #3: The expression of the missing G6PAs enzyme from the DTX401 vector should allow their liver to break down glycogen to produce glucose during times of fasting or metabolic stress.
Speaker #3: As they have done in prior quarters, they continue to find new patients and expand access to criticality in and around the world. The commercial and field teams are also preparing for our first two potential gene therapy launches, which are anticipated in the coming months.
Speaker #3: The ability to regulate glucose better has reduced the burden of disease and reduced the potential for rapid decline to dangerous glucose levels. Transitioning now to UX111, I've been in and around the NPS community for many years, and I've seen so many sample epo patients have to watch helplessly as their children decline and die.
Speaker #3: If approved, both these therapies would represent first-ever treatments for diseases with significant unmet needs and high urgency to treat. The PDUPA date for DTX-401 for GSD-1A is just a few weeks away.
Speaker #3: Sampling syndrome type A has an urgent need to treat and yet there has been nothing for them. Sample epo syndrome is a horrible, neurodegenerative disease and kids are losing brain cells every day.
Speaker #3: Patients with GSD-1A have to drink a flurry of cornstarch every few hours around the clock, day and night, knowing that a single missed dose could lead to their death.
Speaker #3: Patients between the age of 2 and 6 years progressively lose their cognitive functions by 10 years old or so. They're often bedridden and tube bed, and in and out of the hospital for many years.
Speaker #3: This is a constant reminder of their disease and the server consequence of missing a dose. In our Phase 1, 2, and Phase 3 studies, patients treated with DTX-401 have been able to significantly reduce the amount and frequency of cornstarch doses to a pre-specified clinically meaningful degree.
Speaker #3: They can end up nonresponsive for the last 5 or 10 years and often die as teenagers. Until now, families have had no option but to watch helplessly as their children decline and die.
Speaker #3: More importantly, this gene therapy allows patients to have a more normal glucose metabolism, staying in the normal range for a larger fraction of the day.
Speaker #3: Based on our clinical data, treatment with UX111 reduces heparin sulfate in these patients and enables them to stabilize and retain cognitive function compared to natural history.
Speaker #3: The expression of the missing G6Pase enzyme from the DTX-401 vector should allow their liver to break down glycogen to produce glucose during times of fasting or metabolic stress.
Speaker #3: While patients across the age range in the study showed benefits following treatment with UX111, it's also clear that treating earlier demonstrated better results by protecting the brains before they had lost too much function.
Speaker #3: The ability to regulate glucose better has reduced the burden of disease and reduced the potential for rapid decline to dangerous glucose levels. Transitioning now to UX-111, I've been in and around the NPS community for many years, and I've seen so many sample EPO patients have to watch helplessly as their children decline and die.
Speaker #3: With a disease like sample epo syndrome, there's no greater urgency to treat as the longer you wait, the less function you may have. Our development organization under Dr. Crombez has been working with regulatory agencies around the world on BLA submissions for both DTX401 for GSD1A and UX111 for sample epo A syndrome.
Speaker #3: Sampling syndrome type A has an urgent need to treat and yet there has been nothing for them. Sampling syndrome is a horrible neurodegenerative disease and kids are losing brain cells every day.
Speaker #3: These include preparing the applications, responding to information requests, and supporting facility inspections. This would be a lot for a single BLA, our team is working simultaneously with the process for two BLAs.
Speaker #3: That have PDUPA dates a month apart. We remain confident in the work our teams are doing to support these applications. Shifting to GTX102 for Angelin syndrome, where we have the most advanced clinical ASO program.
Speaker #3: Patients between the age of 2 and 6 years progressively lose their cognitive functions by 10 years old or so. They're often bedridden and tube bed, and in and out of the hospital for many years.
Speaker #3: In the Phase 3 Aspire study, the last patient in has had their 48-week visit and the team is in the process of cleaning and locking the database.
Speaker #3: They can end up nonresponsive for the last 5 or 10 years and often die as teenagers. Until now, families have had no option but to watch helplessly as their children decline and die.
Speaker #3: For a global study like this, the process can take months and we expect to unblind and share top-line results with you in September or October timeframe.
Speaker #3: Based on our clinical data, treatment with UX-111 reduces heparin sulfate in these patients and enables them to stabilize and retain cognitive function compared to natural history.
Speaker #3: With three major catalysts on the horizon, the second half of 2026 is poised to be the most significant period in our company's history. We're positioned to deliver another exciting series of potential firsts for our company, the communities we serve, and the broader field of rare disease medicine.
Speaker #3: While patients across the age range in the study showed benefits following treatment with UX-111, it's also clear that treating earlier demonstrated better results by protecting the brains before they had lost too much function.
Speaker #3: With a disease like sampling syndrome, there's no greater urgency to treat as the longer you wait, the less function you may have. Our development organization under Dr. Crombez has been working with regulatory agencies around the world on BLA submissions for both DTX-401 for GSD-1A and UX-111 for sampling syndrome.
Speaker #3: Including the first gene therapy approval for all genetics. The first FDA approvals for two devastating and intractable rare diseases, and the first late-stage clinical data in Angelin syndrome.
Speaker #3: It's a privilege to continue to lead the future of rare disease medicine and we believe the combination of continued growth from our current products accelerated by contribution from potential upcoming launches and disciplined expense management gives us a clear path to profitability in 2027.
Speaker #3: These include preparing the applications, responding to information requests, and supporting facility inspections. This would be a lot for a single BLA. Our team is working simultaneously with the process for two BLAs.
Speaker #3: I'll now turn the call over to our chief commercial officer, Eric Harris, who will provide details on the commercial business and launch activities in the second quarter.
Speaker #3: That have PDUPA dates a month apart. We remain confident in the work our teams are doing to support these applications. Shifting to GTX-102 for Angelman syndrome, where we have the most advanced clinical ASO program.
Speaker #2: Thank you and good afternoon, everyone. As Emil mentioned, we are pleased with our study, successful commercial execution. And we continue to see the benefit of our global infrastructure across products and regions.
Speaker #3: In the Phase 3 Aspire study, the last patient in has had their 48-week visit. And the teams in the process of cleaning and locking the database.
Speaker #2: As we described in the last call, underlying demand for our products remains strong. But seasonal factors can cause quarter to quarter variability in revenue.
Speaker #3: For a global study like this, the process can take months and we expect to unblind and share top-line results with you in September or October, time frame.
Speaker #2: In the second quarter, we saw the strong rebound in orders that we were expecting. Reinforcing our confidence that we are on track to deliver against our full-year guidance.
Speaker #3: With three major catalysts on the horizon, the second half of 2026 is poised to be the most significant period in our company's history. We're positioned to deliver another exciting series of potential firsts for our company, the communities we serve, and the broader field of rare disease medicine.
Speaker #2: Starting with Christina in North America, where our partner, KKC, is commercializing, we continue to see steady growth in the underlying demand. Eight years post-launch, it's extremely gratifying to continue to see the steady addition of new patients starting this therapy.
Speaker #3: Including the first gene therapy approval for all genetics, the first FDA approvals for two devastating and intractable rare diseases, and the first late-stage clinical data in the Angelman syndrome.
Speaker #3: It's a privilege to continue to lead the future of rare disease medicine and we believe the combination of continued growth from our current products accelerated by contribution from potential upcoming launches and disciplined expense management gives us a clear path to profitability in 2027.
Speaker #2: In Latin America, Christina performance was strong in the second quarter. Supported by the combination of continued patient growth and timing of regional orders. Including Brazil and Argentina.
Speaker #2: Approximately 50 patients began commercial therapy in the quarter, bringing the total number of patients on Christina to 1,000 in the region. As discussed, we expect that ordering patterns will continue to create some quarter to quarter variability and we are confident that the underlying demand will continue to grow steadily.
Speaker #3: I'll now turn the call over to our chief commercial officer, Eric Harris, who will provide details on the commercial business and launch activities in the second quarter.
Speaker #4: Thank you. And good afternoon, everyone. As Emil mentioned, we are pleased with our study successful commercial execution. And we continue to see the benefit of our global infrastructure across products and regions.
Speaker #2: In Turkey eye, there are over 100 patients being treated with Christina through the main patient program. As has been the case in other countries, there is accelerating demand as HCPs and patients see the benefits this transformative therapy offers.
Speaker #4: As we described in the last call, underlying demand for our products remains strong. But seasonal factors can cause quarter to quarter variability in revenue.
Speaker #4: And the second quarter, we saw the strong rebound in orders that we were expecting. Reinforcing our confidence that we are on track to deliver against our full-year guidance.
Speaker #2: Shifting now to Dejovi, the trend of steady growth continues in North America, our team generated quarter, and we now have approximately 675 patients on reimbursed therapy.
Speaker #4: Starting with Christina in North America, where our partner, KKC, is commercializing, we continue to see steady growth in the underlying demand. Eight years post-launch, it's extremely gratifying to continue to see the steady addition of new patients starting this therapy.
Speaker #2: In Europe, approximately 300 patients are being treated through main patient or early access programs. With notable growth in the MENA region following marketing authorization approval in Kuwait.
Speaker #4: In Latin America, Christina performance was strong in the second quarter. Supported by the combination of continued patient growth and timing of regional orders. Including Brazil and Argentina.
Speaker #2: We also recently began treating patients with Dejovi in Japan. Following its listing on the National Health Insurance Drug Price List. We are off to a strong start in demand reinforcing our belief that this country, represents another meaningful opportunity for continued growth over time.
Speaker #4: Approximately 50 patients began commercial therapy in the quarter, bringing the total number of patients on Crysvita to 1,000 in the region. As discussed, we expect that ordering patterns will continue to create some quarter-to-quarter variability, and we are confident that the underlying demand will continue to grow steadily.
Speaker #2: FQ is a continues to be an important and growing contributor to our revenue base. And our territories outside of the United States where our response we are responsible for commercialization they are more than 500 patients across 25 countries receiving FQ.
Speaker #4: In Turkey, there are over 100 patients being treated with Christina through the name patient program. As has been the case in other countries, there is accelerating demand as HCPs and patients see the benefits this transformative therapy offers.
Speaker #2: As our teams continue to navigate country by country reimbursement, support early access, and convert appropriate patients to reimburse therapy. Beyond the individual product performance, the real strength of this business is the scale, reach, and experience of our global commercial infrastructure.
Speaker #4: Shifting now to Dejovi, the trend of steady growth continues in North America, our team generated approximately 30 start forms in the quarter. And we now have approximately 675 patients on reimbursed therapy.
Speaker #2: Rare disease commercialization requires deep market by market expertise to include patient finding, reimbursement navigation, and field execution. That is what our global team provides every quarter and giving us high confidence that we will be prepared for the next potential launches.
Speaker #4: In Europe, approximately 300 patients are being treated through name patient or early access programs. With notable growth in the MENA region following marketing authorization approval in Kuwait.
Speaker #4: We also recently began treating patients with Dejovi in Japan. Following its listing on the National Health Insurance Drug Price List. We are off to a strong start in demand reinforcing our belief that this country represents another meaningful opportunity for continued growth over time.
Speaker #2: I'll close briefly with a couple of comments on the team's work preparing to successfully launch DTX401 in US 111. Launching two gene therapies in parallel is a big undertaking.
Speaker #2: We are up to the task and ready to deliver for patients. We are preparing thoughtfully and deliberately to support not only patients and caregivers, but clinicians and payers beginning on day one.
Speaker #4: FK's continues to be an important and growing contributor to our revenue base. And our territories outside of the United States where our response we are responsible for commercialization there are more than 500 patients across 25 countries receiving FK's.
Speaker #2: As we prepare for these potential launches, we are actively working with qualified treatment centers or QTCs with contracting and activities progressing as planned. We believe there's strong engagement reflects their sense of urgency for patients and families impacted by GSD 1A and San Felico syndrome type A.
Speaker #4: As our teams continue to navigate country by country reimbursement, support early access, and convert appropriate patients to reimburse therapy. Beyond the individual product performance, the real strength of this business is the scale, reach, and experience of our global commercial infrastructure.
Speaker #4: Rare disease commercialization requires deep market by market expertise to include patient finding, reimbursement navigation, and field execution. That is what our global team provides every quarter and giving us high confidence that we will be prepared for the next potential briefly with a couple of comments on the team's work preparing to successfully launch BTX-401 and UX-111.
Speaker #2: And their understanding of the clinical potential of our investigational gene therapies. Our market access preparations are also progressing well. Informed by extensive education and engagement efforts.
Speaker #2: Across more than 200 engagements over across more than 200 engagements with payers, we've been pleased that they recognize the significant unmet need associated with both diseases.
Speaker #2: And understand the particular urgency to treat in San Felico syndrome. The foundation necessary to support broad and timely access is set. With a focus on minimizing barriers for eligible patients following approval.
Speaker #4: Launching two gene therapies in parallel is a big undertaking. We are up to the task and ready to deliver for patients. We are preparing thoughtfully and deliberately to support not only patients and caregivers, but clinicians and payers beginning on day one.
Speaker #2: We've been building toward these potential launches for years. We stand ready to add these products to our existing portfolio and expand our mission of helping patients with rare disease.
Speaker #4: As we prepare for these potential launches, we are actively working with qualified treatment centers or QTCs with contracting and activities progressing as planned. We believe the strong engagement reflects their sense of urgency for patients and families impacted by GSD-1A and San Felico syndrome type A.
Speaker #2: With that, I'll turn the call to Howard to share more details on our financial results and guidance.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Eric. And good afternoon, everyone. I'll focus on our second quarter financial results, guidance for the year, and provide a few comments on our path to profitability.
Speaker #3: Starting with revenue, total revenue for the second quarter of 2026 was $214 million. Christina contributed $156 million, including $94 million from North America. $54 million from Latin America and Turkey, and $8 million from Europe, which were consistent with the anticipated quarterly timing and trends Eric just mentioned.
Speaker #4: And their understanding of the clinical potential of our investigational gene therapies. Our market access preparations are also progressing well. Informed by extensive education and engagement efforts.
Speaker #4: Across more than 200 engagements over across more than 200 engagements with payers, we've been pleased that they recognize the significant unmet need associated with both diseases.
Speaker #3: Dejovi contributed $27 million, consistent with our expectation for steady demand growth. FQ contributed $21 million, representing 50% growth over the second quarter of 2025, as the moon continues to build following launches in our territories outside of the United States.
Speaker #4: And understand the particular urgency to treat Sanfilippo syndrome. The foundation necessary to support broad and timely access is set, with a focus on minimizing barriers for eligible patients following approval.
Speaker #3: And Mapseti contributed $10 million, as we continue to treat patients in this ultra rare indication. Total operating expenses for the quarter were $289 million, which included cost of sales of $34 million, and combined R&D and SG&A expenses of $255 million.
Speaker #4: We've been building toward these potential launches for years. We stand ready to add these products to our existing portfolio and expand our mission of helping patients with rare disease.
Speaker #3: Total operating expenses included $34 million of non-cash, stock-based compensation. For the quarter, net loss was $92 million, or $0.90 per share. As of June 30, we had $436 million in cash, cash equivalents, and marketable securities.
Speaker #4: With that, I'll turn the call to Howard to share more details on our financial results and guidance.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Eric. And good afternoon, everyone. I'll focus on our second quarter financial results, guidance for the year, and provide a few comments on our path to profitability.
Speaker #3: Net cash used in operations for the quarter was $0.97 million, a significant decrease from the first quarter and consistent with the expectations we discussed on our last call.
Speaker #1: Starting with revenue, total revenue for the second quarter of 2026 was $214 million. Crysvita contributed $156 million, including $94 million from North America and $54 million from Latin America and Turkey.
Speaker #3: As noted in our press release, we are reaffirming our financial guidance for revenue and combined R&D and SG&A operating expenses. Finally, I want to share a few thoughts on how we plan to achieve our path to profitability in 2027.
Speaker #3: There are three primary factors. First, continued double-digit revenue growth from our current products, plus contributions from our potential upcoming launches. Second, continued expense discipline and strategic capital allocation to support our launches as outlined in our operating expense guidance.
Speaker #1: And $8 million from Europe, which was consistent with the anticipated quarterly timing and trends Eric just mentioned. Dojovi contributed $27 million, consistent with our expectation for steady demand growth.
Speaker #1: FK's contributed $21 million, representing 50% growth over the second quarter of 2025, as the momentum continues to build following launches in our territories outside of the United States.
Speaker #3: And third, incremental non-dilutive capital to bolster our balance sheet from monetization of the priority review vouchers associated with DTX401 and UX 111, if approved.
Speaker #1: And Mapsevi contributed $10 million as we continue to treat patients in this ultra-rare indication. Total operating expenses for the quarter were $289 million which included cost of sales of $34 million and combined R&D and SG&A expenses of $255 million.
Speaker #3: With that, I'll turn the call to our chief medical officer, Eric Crumbus.
Speaker #4: Thank you, Howard. And good afternoon, everyone. I'll start with GTX 102 for ApaZoo Nursing, our antisense oligonucleotide for the treatment of Angelman syndrome. As Emil mentioned, and something that I'm sure you are tracking closely, we are approaching the phase three Aspire data readout expected in the September or October timeframe.
Speaker #1: Total operating expenses included $34 million of non-cash, stock-based compensation. For the quarter, net loss was $92 million or $0.90 per share. As of June 30, we had $436 million in cash, cash equivalents, and marketable securities.
Speaker #4: The Aspire study is a randomized double-blind sham controlled study that enrolled patients with a full maternal UBE3A gene deletion and our criteria for success are well-defined.
Speaker #1: Net cash used in operations for the quarter was $0.97 million a significant decrease from the first quarter and consistent with the expectations we discussed on our last call.
Speaker #4: In the 48-week study, the primary statistical alpha is split between the Bailey IV cognitive raw score at 80% and the multi-domain responder index or MDRI at 20%.
Speaker #1: As noted in our press release, we are reaffirming our financial guidance for revenue and combined R&D and SG&A operating expenses. Finally, I want to share a few thoughts on how we plan to achieve our path to profitability in 2027.
Speaker #4: This is not a hierarchical evaluation, meaning both endpoints are tested in parallel. If the Bailey cognition endpoint reaches a p-value equal or less than 0.04, or if the MDRI reaches a p-value equal or less than 0.01, we will have a statistically successful phase three study.
Speaker #1: There are three primary factors. First, continued double-digit revenue growth from our current products plus contributions from our potential upcoming launches. Second, continued expense discipline and strategic capital allocation to support our launches as outlined in our operating expense guidance.
Speaker #4: We designed and powered the study to hit both endpoints, but we do not need both endpoints to achieve statistical significance in order to have a successful study.
Speaker #1: And third, incremental non-dilutive capital to bolster our balance sheet from monetization of the priority review vouchers associated with DTX-401 and UX111, if approved. With that, I'll turn the call to our Chief Medical Officer, Eric Crombez.
Speaker #4: Across the phase one, two program, patients have now been on continuous therapy for an average of three years with the longest approaching five years which represents the most significant immature data set in the field.
Speaker #4: Thank you, Howard. And good afternoon, everyone. I'll start with GTX-102 for ApaZoo Nursing, our antisense oligonucleotide for the treatment of Angelman syndrome. As Emil mentioned, and something that I am sure you are tracking closely, we are approaching the phase three Aspire data readout expected in the September or October timeframe.
Speaker #4: These patients continue to demonstrate meaningful improvements across multiple development domains while maintaining a consistent safety profile. The phase one, two open label single arm data demonstrates substantial clinical benefit.
Speaker #4: The Aspire study is a randomized double-blind sham controlled study that enrolled patients with a full maternal UBE3A gene deletion and our criteria for success are well-defined.
Speaker #4: Well beyond what might be considered with placebo, though it is in an open label setting. We believe that the long-term experience, beyond the first year of treatment, remains even more important as we evaluate the potential for GTX 102 to provide meaningful benefit with chronic dosing in the commercial setting.
Speaker #4: In the 48-week study, the primary statistical alpha is split between the Bailey IV cognitive raw score at 80% and the multi-domain responder index or MDRI at 20%.
Speaker #4: Shifting to UX 143 or cetrizumab, our monoclonal antibody for the treatment of osteogenesis and prophetic. At the end of last year, we shared the results from the phase three orbit and cosmic studies.
Speaker #4: This is not a hierarchical evaluation, meaning both endpoints are tested in parallel. If the Bailey cognition endpoint reaches a p-value equal or less than 0.04, or if the MDRI reaches a p-value equal or less than 0.01, we will have a statistically successful phase three study.
Speaker #4: While neither study hit statistical significance for the primary endpoints of annualized fracture reductions, we did see clear signals of biologic activity statistically meaningful improvements in bone mineral density and patient reported outcomes and meaningful reductions in fractures in certain bones and in patients with higher fracture frequencies.
Speaker #4: We designed and powered the study to hit both endpoints, but we do not need both endpoints to achieve statistical significance in order to have a successful study.
Speaker #4: Across the phase one two program, patients have now been on continuous therapy for an average of three years with the longest approaching five years which represents the most significant immature data set in the field.
Speaker #4: Since then, we have continued analyzing the data and have had discussions with regulators in the US and UK. Based on the discussion with the MHRA, we believe that a new randomized study may be needed before they would consider reviewing an application for approval.
Speaker #4: These patients continue to demonstrate meaningful improvements across multiple developmental domains while maintaining a consistent safety profile. The Phase 1/2 open-label single-arm data demonstrate substantial clinical benefit.
Speaker #4: The FDA indicated openness to considering alternative approaches to fracture analysis, and we will need additional conversations with them to further define what additional clinical data would be needed to support a potential BLA.
Speaker #4: Well beyond what might be considered with placebo, though it is in an open label setting. We believe that the long-term experience, beyond the first year of treatment, remains even more important as we evaluate the potential for GTX-102 to provide meaningful benefit with chronic dosing in the commercial setting.
Speaker #4: I'm now turning the call back to Amel to provide a reminder of our catalyst for 2026 and some closing remarks.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Eric. A close with a few of the important catalysts we have later this year. A full list can be seen in the corporate deck posted to our website.
Speaker #2: Starting with DTX 401 for the treatment of glycine store disease type 1A, where we continue to work with FDA ahead of our producer action date of August 23rd.
Speaker #4: Shifting to UX143, or cetrizumab, our monoclonal antibody for the treatment of osteogenesis imperfecta. At the end of last year, we shared the results from the Phase 3 ORBIT and COSMIC studies.
Speaker #2: Next, UX 111 for the treatment of sample lipo syndrome, similar to DTX 401, we continue to work with FDA ahead of the action date of September 19th.
Speaker #4: While neither study hit statistical significance for the primary endpoints of annualized fracture reductions, we did see clear signals of biologic activity statistically meaningful improvements in bone mineral density and patient reported outcomes and meaningful reductions in fractures in certain bones and in patients with higher fracture frequencies.
Speaker #2: And lastly, GTX 102 for the treatment of Angelman syndrome, where we're on track to read out top-line phase three data from the Aspire study in the September or October timeframe.
Speaker #2: The second quarter reinforced the continued strength of our global commercial business and our expertise in developing first ever medicines for patients with rare diseases.
Speaker #4: Since then, we have continued analyzing the data and have had discussions with regulators in the US and UK. Based on the discussion with the MHRA, we believe that a new randomized study may be needed before they would consider reviewing an application for approval.
Speaker #2: We are ready for potential launches, continued execute across the portfolio, and are approaching a set of milestones that could meaningfully expand our impact for patients, and accelerate the next phase of growth for orthogenics.
Speaker #2: With that, let's move on to your questions, operator. Please provide the Q&A instructions.
Speaker #4: The FDA indicated openness to considering alternative approaches to fracture analysis and we will need additional conversations with them to further define what additional clinical data would be needed to support a potential BLA.
Speaker #1: Thank you. And at this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. Please limit yourselves to one question and one follow-up question for each time you enter the queue.
Speaker #4: I'm now turning the call back to Amel to provide a reminder of our catalyst for 2026 and some closing remarks.
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Speaker #2: Thank you, Eric. A close with a few of the important catalysts we have later this year. A full list can be seen in the corporate deck posted to our website.
Speaker #1: For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. In our first question comes from Kristen Kluska, with Cantor Fitzgerald.
Speaker #2: Starting with DTX-401 for the treatment of glycine store disease type 1A, where we continue to work with FDA ahead of our producer action date of August 23rd.
Speaker #2: Next, UX-111 for the treatment of sample lipo syndrome, similar to DTX-401, we continue to work with FDA ahead of the action date of September 19th.
Speaker #1: Please state your question.
Speaker #5: Hi, good afternoon. Congrats on a really strong quarter. For Angelman syndrome, was hoping you could provide a little bit more context on these endpoints.
Speaker #2: And lastly, GTX-102 for the treatment of Angelman syndrome, where we're on track to readout top line phase three data from the Aspire study in the September or October timeframe.
Speaker #5: Specifically, if the FDA has signed off, whether one endpoint or not would be sufficient for filing. And then also, understanding what's clinically meaningful, understand that these both endpoints were powered for success, but were they also powered to show results that the community would deem clinically acceptable.
Speaker #2: The second quarter reinforced the continued strength of our global commercial business and our expertise in developing first ever medicines for patients with rare diseases.
Speaker #2: We are ready for potential launches, continued execute across the portfolio, and are approaching a set of milestones that could meaningfully expand our impact for patients and accelerate the next phase of growth for our ultragenics.
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Speaker #2: We had our discussion with the FDA on the sharing of primary alpha, and that was agreed to in our end of phase two and follow-up discussions on the two endpoints.
Speaker #2: With that, let's move on to your questions, operator. Please provide the Q&A instructions.
Speaker #2: So sharing of alpha means that either endpoint can be positive in their analysis. With regard to powering we are powering based on the effects we've seen, but we think a five or six point change, for example, in the Bailey should be sufficient to achieve significance, and that would be a six point level is considered clinically meaningful.
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Speaker #2: For the MDRI, it only scored as if there's clinical meaningful results. That is, each domain improvement requires a threshold of clinical meaningfulness. And in that previously, we've seen as we remember in phase two, about two domains net positive.
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Speaker #2: There were the clinical meaningful range. So because of the design, we would see MDRI would be positive only with clinically meaningful results. So at this point, we'll comfortable about the two endpoint approach.
Speaker #6: Hi, good afternoon. Congrats on a really strong quarter. For Angelman syndrome, was hoping you could provide a little bit more context on these endpoints.
Speaker #6: Specifically, if the FDA has signed off, whether one endpoint or not would be sufficient for filing. And then also, understanding what's clinically meaningful, understand that these both endpoints were powered for success, but were they also powered to show results that the community would deem clinically acceptable.
Speaker #2: And we think the powering will be positive with clinically meaningful results. Based on our plan, we will see the data when they come.
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Speaker #6: Thank you.
Speaker #4: Great. Thanks so much. So maybe on the MDRI endpoint, which I think is generated some confusion from investors. As you noticed, it's the first and most important secondary, but it's really a core primary.
Speaker #2: We had our discussion with the FDA on the sharing of primary alpha, and that was agreed to in our end of phase two and follow-up discussions on the two endpoints.
Speaker #2: So sharing of alpha means that either endpoint can be positive in their analysis. With regard to powering we are powering based on the effects we've seen, but we think a five or six point change, for example, in the Bailey should be sufficient to achieve significance, and that would be the six point level is considered clinically meaningful.
Speaker #4: And it's not been used before in Angelman, but you've used it in some of your other MPS disorders. Can you talk about the level of sensitivity and whether it's a better endpoint in cognition, just given that it's a core primary?
Speaker #4: Thank you so much.
Speaker #2: Yes. The MDRI approach is simply captures efficacy across multiple domains using a clinically meaningful threshold in order to capture any positive results. What we're saying is any of, let's say, five or six endpoints, if there's a clinically meaningful change in a patient, we count that and add up all those clinically meaningful changes together.
Speaker #2: For the MDRI, it only scored as if there's clinical meaningful results. That is each domain improvement requires a threshold of clinical meaningfulness. And in that previously we've seen if you remember in phase two, about two domains net positive.
Speaker #2: We use it previously in the MAP 70 program, which it was significant in our 12-patient trial. In our analyses, published in our paper, the MDRI was, for example, 10-fold more powerful to detect change in a enzyme replacement therapy trial.
Speaker #2: There were the clinical meaningful range. So because of the design, we would see MDRI would be positive only with clinically meaningful results. So at this point, we'll comfortable about the two endpoint approach and we think the powering will be positive with clinically meaningful results.
Speaker #2: Based on our plan, we will see the data when they come.
Speaker #2: Compared to individual endpoints, right? That's what we've published before. So we think it's substantially more sensitive. When you look at the Angelman phase two data, even in the 15-patient trial, we show substantial power with p-values less than 0.01, even in small study.
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Speaker #4: Great. Thanks so much. So maybe on the MDRI endpoint, which I think is generated some confusion from investors. As you noticed, it's the first and most important secondary, but it's really a co-primary and you it's not been used before in Angelman, but you've used it in some of your other MPS disorders.
Speaker #2: So it's more powerful because we capture more efficacy in it. So it's sensitivity is very good. But it's meaning is greater, and it's one of the reasons we want it.
Speaker #2: It's not just sensitivity. Being able to show through five important domains for family what a drug is doing, I think is a better assessment of what a drug does in a disease as complex as Angelman, as you know, since you've worked in the area.
Speaker #4: Can you talk about the level of sensitivity, and whether it's a better endpoint in cognition, just given that it's a co-primary? Thank you so much.
Speaker #2: So we think it's just a better way of describing however, it is new. And it's different. But we're confident it's clinically meaningful, and it's power in detecting change in diverse complex disorders like Angelman syndrome.
Speaker #2: Yes. The MDRI approach is simply captures efficacy across multiple domains using a clinically meaningful threshold in order to capture any positive results. What we're saying is any of, let's say, five or six endpoints, if there's a clinically meaningful change in a patient, we count that and add up all those clinically meaningful changes together we use it previously in the MAP 70 program, which it was significant in our 12-patient trial.
Speaker #1: Thank you. And your next question comes from Yigal Nochomovitz, with City. Please state your question.
Speaker #6: Yeah, hi. How are you? I just wanted to ask with regard to the filing plans. Are you going to file on the data coming up in September or October?
Speaker #6: Or the additional study and additional genotypes will also support the Angelman's filing. Can you just comment on the order of operations with regard to what data sets will be included?
Speaker #2: In our analyses, published in our paper, the MDRI was, for example, 10-fold more powerful to detect change in a enzyme replacement therapy trial. Compared to individual endpoints, right?
Speaker #6: Thank you.
Speaker #2: Yeah, thank you, Yigal. We haven't discussed publicly what we're going to do about filing. It's something under consideration. And at this point, we're not going to describe what our plan is.
Speaker #2: That's what we've published before. So we think it's substantially more sensitive. When you look at the Angelman phase two data, even in the 15-patient trial, we show substantial power with p-values less than 0.01, even in small studies.
Speaker #2: We're collecting data in all the types in our program, our expectation is to get approval in all the types, but we won't discuss at this point what our plan or filing timeline is.
Speaker #2: So it's more powerful because we capture more efficacy in it. So it's sensitivity is very good, but it's meaning is greater and it's one of the reasons we want it.
Speaker #2: Thank you.
Speaker #2: It's not just sensitivity. Being able to show through five important domains for family what a drug is doing, I think is a better assessment of what a drug does in a disease as complex as Angelman, as you know, since you've worked in the area.
Speaker #1: Okay. Your next. Thank you. Thank you. Your next question comes from Mauri Raycroft, with Jefferies. Please state your question.
Speaker #6: Hi. Congrats on the quarter. And thanks for taking my question. I'll ask one on Angelman as well. Wondering if there have been any cases of lower extremity weakness or neuroinflammation based on DMC feedback during the study?
Speaker #2: So we think it's just a better way of describing. However, it is new and it's different. But we're confident it's clinically meaningful and it's power in detecting change in diverse complex disorders like Angelman syndrome.
Speaker #6: And how are you setting expectations on this for the top line disclosure? And I guess, what's the latest you can say on the dropout rate from the phase three?
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Speaker #2: Yeah, we usually don't describe all the details and operation of the study and honestly, the safety and efficacy will have to get evaluated together.
Speaker #3: Yeah, hi. How are you? I just wanted to ask with regard to the filing plans. Are you going to file on the data coming up in September or October or the additional study and additional genotypes will also support the Angelman's filing?
Speaker #2: The study has never stopped or had any issue during its conduct. It's continued smoothly through. At this point, right? So there's been no safety issue to cause a problem that stopped the study.
Speaker #2: So I would say we're comfortable where we are. I think we don't expect to see a different safety profile from what we've seen before.
Speaker #3: Can you just comment on the order of operations with regard to what data sets will be included? Thank you.
Speaker #2: And going forward.
Speaker #3: And we'll do a comment on the discontinuation rate that we saw.
Speaker #2: Yeah, thank you, Yigal. We haven't discussed publicly what we're going to do about filings. It's something under consideration and at this point, we're not going to describe what our plan is.
Speaker #2: Yeah, well, we wouldn't comment on that. It's also part of study conduct at this point. If you look past the phase two program, we've had very few.
Speaker #2: We're collecting data in all the types in our program. Our expectation is to get approval in all the types, but we won't discuss at this point what our plan or filing timeline is.
Speaker #2: And usually, it's towards the beginning and but among patients to get let's say after six, eight, seven, eight months, we had a very good persistence of those patients long-term.
Speaker #2: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Got it. Thank you. Your next question comes from Ellie Merle, with Barclays. Please state your question.
Speaker #5: Okay, you're next. Thank you. Thank you. Your next question comes from Mauri Raycroft with Jefferies. Please state your question.
Speaker #7: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Another two on Angelman. So first, I guess, what are your latest expectations for the placebo arm performance on MDRI and the Bailey cognition score?
Speaker #3: Hi. Congrats on the quarter, and thanks for taking my question. I’ll ask one on Angelman as well. I’m wondering if there have been any cases of lower extremity weakness or neuroinflammation based on DMC feedback during the study, and how are you setting expectations on this for the topline disclosure?
Speaker #7: And you're confident that there won't be a placebo effect. And then second, I guess, if you show a trend on both endpoints, but do not reach statistical significance, curious how you would approach that with the regulators in terms of a potential filing things.
Speaker #3: And I guess what's the latest you can say on the dropout rate from the phase three?
Speaker #2: Yeah, we usually don't describe all the details and operation of the study and honestly, the safety and efficacy will have to get evaluated together.
Speaker #2: Great. We have talked about the placebo effect before. I think in the Bailey cognitive where we have both natural history and the randomized data from another study, the effect has been one point or less in the Bailey cognitive.
Speaker #2: The study has never stopped or had any issue during its conduct. It's continued smoothly through. At this point, right? So there's been no safety issue to cause a problem that stopped the study.
Speaker #2: So I would say we're comfortable where we are. I think we don't expect to see a different safety profile from what we've seen before.
Speaker #2: So it doesn't change. And honestly, placebo effects usually don't happen in things like a Bailey score because the patient is not cognitive of what the change should be.
Speaker #2: And going forward.
Speaker #1: And we'll do a comment on the discontinuation rate that we saw.
Speaker #2: Yeah. Well, we wouldn't comment on that. It's also part of study conduct at this point. If you look past the phase two program, we've had very few.
Speaker #2: And it can happen if you're using patient and parent input. But in this case, we think it's unlikely to see a placebo effect for the Bailey.
Speaker #2: And usually it's towards the beginning and but among patients to get let's say after six, eight, seven, eight months, we had a very good persistence of those patients long-term.
Speaker #2: In the MDRI, we're looking at a multiple different endpoints. It is possible that some of those could change. However, we think that that the threshold of clinical meaningful change means just a little bit of change from biased view things, wouldn't score.
Speaker #5: Got it. Thank you. Your next question comes from Ellie Merle with Barclays. Please state your question.
Speaker #2: It has to be a really pretty big change before you can score. So I think that should filter out, I would call, random placebo changes.
Speaker #6: Hey guys, thanks for taking my question. Another two on Angelman. So first, I guess what are your latest expectations for the placebo arm performance on MDRI and the Bailey cognition score and your confidence that there won't be a placebo effect?
Speaker #2: So at this point, we feel both I don't think placebo effect would be an issue. It is neurology, though. I always say, and we always have to consider we will learn things.
Speaker #2: But we think we've designed it to manage any placebo effect and in both endpoints.
Speaker #6: And then second, I guess if you show a trend on both endpoints, but do not reach statistical significance, curious how you would approach that with the regulators.
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Speaker #6: In terms of a potential filing, things...
Speaker #2: Great. We have talked about the placebo effect before. I think in the Bailey cognitive where we have both natural history and the randomized data from another study, the effect has been 1 point or less in the Bailey cognitive.
Speaker #4: Hey, guys. Thanks so much for taking the question. Could you just clarify your comments a little bit on GTX 102 and Bailey? I think you said you needed a five to six-point change to kind of hit stats relative to placebo.
Speaker #2: So it doesn't change. And honestly, placebo effects usually don't happen in things like a Bailey score because the patient is not cognizant of what the change should be.
Speaker #4: I think that's the first time you've kind of really quantified that. So I'm assuming that's raw score, right? But using GSV, if I remember back to your phase two, you showed a similar-ish effect, right?
Speaker #2: And it can happen if you're using patient and parent input. But in this case, we think it's unlikely to see a placebo effect for the Bayley.
Speaker #4: In phase two. So I was just wondering if you could clarify those comments. Thanks so much.
Speaker #2: In the MDRI, we're looking at multiple different endpoints. It is possible that some of those could change. However, we think that the threshold of clinically meaningful change means just a little bit of change from a biased view of things.
Speaker #2: Yeah, I wasn't saying that's the threshold for powering. I was saying that at five, six point is a clinical meaningful change. And we are powered to detect that average change.
Speaker #2: That's what I meant to say. I didn't mean to say we're only powered for that threshold. We are well powered to detect anything that would be considered clinically meaningful in that range.
Speaker #2: Wouldn't score. It has to be a really pretty big change before you can score. So I think that should filter out, I would call, random placebo changes.
Speaker #2: In the data, we put out recently, we said it was near 10 score when you combine all the data together at one year. But we would if you look at all the various sets of the data, it's in that range that we would expect the data to be.
Speaker #2: So at this point, we feel both I don't think placebo effect would be an issue. It is neurology though. I always say and we always have to consider we will learn things, but we think we've designed it to manage any placebo effect and both endpoints.
Speaker #2: And what I'm saying is we're powered whatever we would detect should be a clinically meaningful change. And we are confident we can do that.
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Speaker #4: Okay. Thanks for the clarification.
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Speaker #4: Great. Thanks for taking the questions. And congrats on the progress made over the course of the quarter. I'll keep the train rolling here as it relates to GTX 102.
Speaker #4: Hey guys, thanks so much for taking the question. Emil, could you just clarify your comments a little bit on GTX-102 and Bailey? I think you said you needed a five-to-six-point change to kind of hit stats relative to placebo.
Speaker #4: And I wanted to ask a quick clarifying question around the allocation of alpha. I understand on the call and on the more recent calls, you've been discussing how you have 80% allocation of alpha to the baby for cognitive cognition endpoint and a 20% allocation to MDRI.
Speaker #4: I think that's the first time you've kind of really quantified that. So I'm assuming that's raw score, right? But using GSV, if I remember back to your Phase 2, you showed a similar-ish effect, right?
Speaker #4: But I was looking at the completion of enrollment press release from July of last year. And I think it was a 90/10 alpha allocation there.
Speaker #4: In phase two. So I was just wondering if you could clarify those comments. Thanks so much.
Speaker #4: And I'm just curious, if there was a change to the statistics between the completion of enrollment and the potential readout here, and what educated that change?
Speaker #2: Yeah, I wasn't saying that's the threshold for powering. I was saying that at five, six point is a clinical meaningful change and we are powered to detect that average change.
Speaker #2: Yes, our current plan is to do 80/20, 90/10 or very similar. I don't really think there are materially different. We decided to make it 80/20.
Speaker #2: That's what I meant to say. I didn't mean to say we're only powered for that threshold. We are well powered to detect anything that would be considered clinically meaningful in that range.
Speaker #2: There was no particular data or other reason for it. It was just our take on the split between the two. It doesn't I don't think meaningfully change things, but the MDRI is very powerful.
Speaker #2: In the data, we put out recently, we said it was near 10 score when you combine all the data together at one year. But we would if you look at all the various sets of the data, it's in that range that we would expect the data to be.
Speaker #2: We think 10 or 20 percent is probably adequate for that. And we had given 80%, 90% to the Bailey in our discussion with FDA.
Speaker #2: And what I'm saying is we're powered whatever we would detect should be a clinically meaningful change and we are confident we can do that.
Speaker #2: That was the split we had. But they're comfortable with what we are proposing at this point.
Speaker #4: Okay. Thanks for the clarification.
Speaker #4: Thanks for the comment.
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Speaker #2: The next.
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Speaker #4: Great. Thanks for taking the questions, and congrats on the progress made over the course of the quarter. I'll keep the train rolling here as it relates to GTX 102.
Speaker #5: Hey, good afternoon. And thanks for taking the question. Just a clarification on cetrizimab. I think in their prepared remarks, you said FDA had indicated openness to alternatives to the fracture analysis, but you need a further defined what would be needed for Bailey.
Speaker #4: And I wanted to ask a quick clarifying question around the allocation of alpha. I understand on the call, and on the more recent calls, you've been discussing how you have 80% allocation of alpha to the BABY for cognition endpoint, and a 20% allocation to MDRI.
Speaker #5: Could you just clarify that? Do you feel you have a filable package from the existing COSMIC in orbit dataset? And just how important is that open label extension data that's being generated now?
Speaker #4: But I was looking at the completion of enrollment press release from July of last year and I think it was a 90/10 alpha allocation there.
Speaker #4: And I'm just curious if there was a change to the statistics between the completion of enrollment and the potential readout here and what educated that change.
Speaker #5: And just what's the next point you would be able to update the street on FDA interactions and the path forward in the US? Thanks.
Speaker #2: Yes, our current plan is to do 80/20, 90/10, or something very similar. I don't really think they're materially different. We decided to make it 80/20.
Speaker #2: Yes, our comments were basically around the type of fractures and type of patients that we were talking about with regard to what fracture analysis they would want.
Speaker #2: There was no particular data or other reason for it. It was just our take on the split between the two. It doesn't I don't think meaningfully change things, but the MDRI is very powerful.
Speaker #2: What we said, though, is that our discussion suggests some additional clinical data will be required. And we need to define what that is, which is not fully defined yet.
Speaker #2: We think 10 or 20 percent is probably adequate for that. And we had given 80%, 90% to the Bailey in our discussion with FDA.
Speaker #2: And so we haven't we cannot state at this point whether extension data alone or whether there's any additional data required at this point in time.
Speaker #2: That was the split we had, but they're comfortable with what we are proposing at this point. Next.
Speaker #2: All right. So we are discussing with them. I think they've been very open to a discussion and a path forward. And we just need to come up with a good plan to get us to that filable package.
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Speaker #6: Hey, good afternoon. And thanks for taking the question. Just a clarification on cetirizine lab. I think in their prepared remarks, you said FDA had indicated openness to alternatives to the fracture analysis, but you need a further defined what would be needed for BLA.
Speaker #6: Great. Thank you very much for taking my question. So another on Angelman. With the centralized raters, have you seen a reduction in variability in the blinded baseline data compared to the phase one, two?
Speaker #6: Could you just clarify that? Do you feel you have a filable package from the existing cosmic in orbit data set and just how important is that openly extension data that's being generated now?
Speaker #6: Thank you.
Speaker #2: Well, we have not personally looked at the data. So we're not aware we don't look at the blinded data at the management level. The team would be doing that.
Speaker #6: And just what's the next point you would be able to update the street on FDA interactions and the path forward in the US? Thanks.
Speaker #2: We would expect that the reviewers, which are highly professional and consistent, would help reduce overall steady variation. That was the importance of it, to control it, to absolutely make sure that a changing invest a changing evaluator or variable quality and experience at different locations might cause a problem.
Speaker #2: Yes, our comments were basically around the type of fractures and type patients that we were talking about with regard to what fracture said though is that our discussion suggests some additional clinical data will be required and we need to define what that is, which is not fully defined yet.
Speaker #2: So it was our attempt to control the endpoint. But I can't tell you at this point that effect of that. But I believe that it is the kind of thing that will help assure consistency and give us the best chance for a less noise in the program.
Speaker #2: And so we haven't—we cannot state at this point whether extension data alone, or whether there's any additional data required at this point in time.
Speaker #2: But right now, we don't have any data to tell you that.
Speaker #2: All right. So we are discussing with them. I think they've been very open to a discussion and a path forward. And we just need to come up with a good plan to get us to that file package.
Speaker #6: Great. Thank you.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Tazeen Ahmad, with Bank of America. Please state your question.
Speaker #7: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. On the financial front, how are you feeling about where you are with your cash balance and any potential need to do any kind of financing?
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Speaker #7: Related to that, how should we be thinking about the investment needed for the upcoming launches that you have for your two programs for 401 and 111, assuming that both of them do get approved on time?
Speaker #7: Great. Thank you very much for taking my question. So another on Angelman. With the centralized raters, have you seen a reduction in variability in the blinded baseline data compared to the phase one, two?
Speaker #7: Thank you.
Speaker #7: And then lastly, can you just remind us of what you think the market size for each of those two indications could be? Thanks.
Speaker #2: Well, we have not personally looked at the data, so we're not aware we don't look at the blinded data at the management level. The team would be doing that.
Speaker #2: Sure. Well, I'll let Howard go through the cash financing piece. But I'll touch on the market size first. So for GTX 401, GSD 1A, we think there's about 6,000 in the developed approachable world, which means around 1,500 to 2,000 in the US.
Speaker #2: We would expect that the reviewers, who are highly professional and consistent, would help reduce overall steady variation. That was the importance of it—to control it, to absolutely make sure that a changing, invest—a changing evaluator or variable quality and experience at different locations might cause a problem.
Speaker #2: And for San Felipo syndrome, there's 3 to 5,000 globally. But inside the US, there's probably we think of it as 20 or 25 percent of that.
Speaker #2: So it was our attempt to control the endpoint. But I can't tell you at this point the effect of that. But I believe that it is the kind of thing that will help assure consistency and give us the best chance for less noise in the program.
Speaker #2: The addressable population will depend on what label says. But we are looking at patients that are generally going to be probably more likely under 10 than over 10.
Speaker #2: But right now, we don't have any data to tell you that.
Speaker #7: Great. Thank you.
Speaker #2: But those are roughly where we are on population currently. I'll let Howard talk about the financials.
Speaker #5: Your next question comes from Tazin Ahmad with Bank of America. Please state your question.
Speaker #6: Hi guys. Thanks for taking my questions. On the financial front, how are you feeling about where you are with your cash balance and any potential need to do any kind of financing?
Speaker #3: Yeah. Thanks, Tazeen. So first on the investments, I guess I'll remind folks of the guidance we gave for combined R&D and SG&A. And it was all based on this year or next year versus 2025.
Speaker #6: Related to that, how should we be thinking about the investment needed for the upcoming launches that you have for your two programs for 401 and 111, assuming that both of them do get approved on time?
Speaker #3: So this year was flat to down low single digits. And in '27, it's a decrease of at least 15%. And both of those were inclusive.
Speaker #3: The launch investments we're planning to make for 111 and 401. So there is new money going in there. I think also important to note is that those programs fall into a sales structure or a bag that we already carry.
Speaker #6: And then lastly, can you just remind us of what you think the market size for each of those two indications could be? Thanks.
Speaker #2: Sure. Well, I'll let Howard go through the cash financing piece, but I'll touch on the market size first. So for DTX 401, GSD 1A, we think there's about 6,000 in the developed approachable world, which means around 1,500 to 2,000 in the US.
Speaker #3: So it's a highly leveraged situation. So it's targeted investments. So that's an answer to that part of the question. And then with regard to cash balance, we reported 436 million as of the end of the quarter.
Speaker #3: And as it relates to fundraising plans, our focus is on monetization of PRVs. Upon approval, our intent would be to monetize our GTX 401 PRV and also the UX 111 PRV.
Speaker #2: And for San Felipo syndrome, there's 3 to 5,000 globally, but inside the US, there's probably we think of it as 20 or 25 percent of that.
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Speaker #2: The addressable population will depend on what label says, but we are looking at patients that are generally going to be probably more likely under 10 than over 10.
Speaker #4: Hi. Thank you. Congrats on the quarter and congrats on the good graffiti number. I wanted to ask about such user map and just follow up.
Speaker #4: I'm just curious, have any of the regulatory agencies that you spoken with, have they indicated a willingness to use or rely on bone mineral density as sort of a determinant of efficacy?
Speaker #2: But those are roughly where we are on population currently. I'll let Howard talk about the financials.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Thanks, Tazin. So first on the investments, I guess I'll remind folks of the guidance we gave for combined R&G and SG&A. And it was all based on this year or next year versus 2025.
Speaker #4: Or did they still also need to see efficacy be defined in some way in terms of fracture rate?
Speaker #2: Thanks, Ben. That's a good question. At this point, there hasn't been the kind of proof for BMD's predictive value for fractures as there has been for osteogenesis I'm sorry, for osteoporosis.
Speaker #3: So this year was flat to down low single digits. And in '27, it's a decrease of at least 15%. And both of those were inclusive, the launch investments we're planning to make for 111 and 401.
Speaker #2: Where it has been accepted and so we're still in the point of proving it. And there was a question of whether the underlying bone disease creates that connection.
Speaker #3: So there is new money going in there. I think also important to note is that those programs fall into a sales structure or a bag that we already carry.
Speaker #2: We have evaluated, we believe it does. But at this point, we're looking at fracture endpoints of some form as the primary way to get approval.
Speaker #3: So it's a highly leveraged situation, so it's targeted investments. So that's an answer to that part of the question. And then, with regard to cash balance, we reported $436 million as of the end of the quarter.
Speaker #2: I'm not using BMD. I think we all agree BMD demonstrates the profound activity of this drug in these patients, with a whole E-score gain.
Speaker #3: And as it relates to fundraising plans, our focus is on monetization of PRVs. Upon approval, our intent would be to monetize our DTX 401 PRV and also the UX 111 PRV.
Speaker #2: In a year is a profound improvement in their bone. So it gives us confidence. And I think the regulators are also confident that the drug is doing something, meaningful.
Speaker #2: But right now, there's I would say exceptions of BMD as a primary for approval is not yet been enabled.
Speaker #5: Thank you. Your next question comes from Ben Burnett with Wells Fargo. Please state your question.
Speaker #4: Hi, thank you. Good, crisp number. I wanted to ask about soticlestat, and just follow up. I'm just curious—have any of the regulatory agencies that you've spoken with indicated a willingness to use or rely on bone mineral density as sort of a determinant of efficacy?
Speaker #1: Thank you. Your next question comes from Salveen Richter, with Goldman Sachs. Please state your question.
Speaker #5: Hi. This is Lydia On for Salveen. Thanks so much for taking our question. And congrats on the progress. Just as a follow-up to a previous question on Angelman, related to the lower extremity weakness, has FDA provided any sort of threshold on what would be acceptable on the safety front, particularly as it pertains to that lower extremity weakness?
Speaker #4: Or did they still also need to see efficacy be defined in some way in terms of fracture rate?
Speaker #2: Thanks, Ben. That's a good question. At this point, there hasn't been the kind of proof for BMD's predictive value for fractures as there has been for osteoporosis.
Speaker #5: Thanks so much.
Speaker #2: No. No thresholds were vied or any limit. In fact, I believe in our final conversation, I'm not sure if Eric you want to say something to this.
Speaker #2: We really have not had much concern, at least in the phase two, as little at all. Eric, what's your take on the FDA? I don't think we've had any limits provided to us for how much maximum could be occurred or something.
Speaker #2: Where it has been accepted, and so we're still at the point of whether the underlying bone disease creates that connection. We have evaluated; we believe it does. But at this point, we're looking at fracture endpoints of some form as the primary way to get approval.
Speaker #4: Yeah. No. Exactly. During our end of phase two meeting, there was no discussion on lower extremity weakness. And as I said, we maintain a consistent safety profile.
Speaker #2: I'm not using BMD. I think we all agree BMD demonstrates the profound activity of this drug in these patients, with a whole E-score gain.
Speaker #2: Yep. So I think our sense from them is that we've gotten past the issue with them. And I think we're in good shape. So we have not had discussions further.
Speaker #2: In a year, there is a profound improvement in their bone. So it gives us confidence, and I think it also gives the regulators confidence that the drug is doing something meaningful.
Speaker #2: But right now, there's I would say exceptions of BMD as a primary for approval is not yet been enabled.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Luca Issi, with RBC Capital Markets. Please state your question.
Speaker #6: Hi, team. This is Shelby on for Luca. Maybe on GSD just weeks away, could you provide any color on your level of confidence headed into that decision?
Speaker #5: Thank you. Your next question comes from Salvine Richter with Goldman Sachs. Please state your question.
Speaker #6: Hi. This is Lydia on for Salvine. Thanks so much for taking our question and congrats on the progress. Just as a follow-up to a previous question on Angelman, related to the lower extremity weakness, has FDA provided any sort of threshold on what would be acceptable on the safety front, particularly as it pertains to that lower extremity weakness?
Speaker #6: And talk about how the review has progressed. And I guess specifically, whether there's been any information request from the FDA? And are there any additional manufacturing inspections that you need to clear before the decision date?
Speaker #6: Any color there, much appreciated. Thanks.
Speaker #6: Thanks so much.
Speaker #2: Sure. Well, yes, we have obtained information requests during the review for both CMC and clinical. And we've been answering them. We can't provide an answer yet during things are underway like that.
Speaker #2: No. No thresholds provided or any limit. In fact, I believe in our final conversation, I'm not sure Eric you want to say something to this.
Speaker #2: We really have not had much concern, at least in the phase two was a little at all. Eric, what's your take on the FDA?
Speaker #2: We feel the review has gone proceeded normally. And we feel like we're in good shape. However, we can't predict to you what the FDA's action are.
Speaker #2: I don't think we've had any limits provided to us for how much maximum could be incurred or something.
Speaker #4: Yeah. No. Exactly. During our end of phase two meeting, there was no discussion on lower extremity weakness. And as I said, we maintain a consistent safety profile.
Speaker #2: They will have to do it. But at this point, everything we have been doing has answered their questions. And moved in a normal fashion forward.
Speaker #2: Yep. So I think our sense from them is that we've gotten past the issue with them, and I think we're in good shape. So we have not had discussions further.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Laura Chico, with Wedbush. Please state your question.
Speaker #7: Hi. Good afternoon, everyone. This is Thomas Yip on for Laura. One question from us. So of the 300, 400, St. Philippo patients, that are identified in the US, how many are likely within the age range that you would expect the label to support in a clinically appropriate to treat?
Speaker #5: Your next question comes from Luca Issi with RBC Capital Markets. Please state your question.
Speaker #6: Hi, team. This is Shelby on for Luca. Maybe on GSD 1A, with the Padupa, just weeks away, could you provide any color on your level of confidence headed into that decision and talk about how the review has progressed?
Speaker #7: And then also, what's the incidence rate for new patients being captured on an annual basis? Thank you.
Speaker #2: Are you talking for St. Philippo syndrome?
Speaker #6: And I guess specifically, whether there's been any information request from the FDA and are there any additional manufacturing sections that you need to clear before the decision date?
Speaker #7: Yes. That's right. St. Philippo.
Speaker #2: Yeah. I thought you were mentioning St. Philippo. Yeah. So we haven't put out precise numbers yet on the prevalence, exact prevalence or diagnosed prevalence of patients.
Speaker #6: Any color there? Much appreciated. Thanks.
Speaker #2: We know that the incident rate appears to be about 1 in 100,000 or about 30 to 40 new kids diagnosed per year. So if you imagine that they're living until they're teenage years, you can get a sense for what the number of prevalent number is like, right?
Speaker #2: Sure. Well, yes, we have obtained information requests during the review for both CMC and clinical, and we've been answering them. We can't provide an answer yet during things are underway like that.
Speaker #2: Does that make sense? We have treated patients up to, I think, 8 or 9 years old in the trial. We don't know what age range will be in the labeling.
Speaker #2: We feel the review has proceeded normally and we feel like we're in good shape. However, we can't predict to you what the FDA's actions are.
Speaker #2: But we've shown even in the older patients, that we stabilize function with regard to ambulation, feeding, communication at the 8 they're in when we are able to treat them.
Speaker #2: They will have to do it. But at this point, everything we have been doing has answered their questions and moved forward in a normal fashion.
Speaker #2: So we think there's a justification for treating patients at that age. But we don't know what the label will be. But there is a meaningful population of patients in that age range out there.
Speaker #5: Your next question comes from Laura Chico with Wedbush. Please state your question.
Speaker #2: And we have a sense that a lot of urgency of wanting to get treated. So I hope that gives you at least a feel for it.
Speaker #7: Hi. Good afternoon, everyone. This is Thomas Yip on for Laura. One question from us. So, of the 300 to 400, since Filippo patients that are identified in the US, how many are likely within the age range that you would expect to be able to support and be clinically appropriate to treat?
Speaker #7: Understood. Thank you so much for taking the question.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Joe Schwartz, with Leering Partners. Please state your question.
Speaker #7: And then also, what's the incidence rate for new patients being captured on an annual basis? Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thanks. I have a two-part
Speaker #7: question on Angelman. In phase one, two, were there particular bailey cognition items or skill clusters that appeared most sensitive to opposite nursing? And are those the same skills you expect to drive separation and aspire?
Speaker #2: Are you talking about Sanfilippo syndrome?
Speaker #7: Yes. That's right. San Filippo.
Speaker #2: Yeah, I thought you were mentioning Sanfilippo. So, we haven't put out precise numbers yet on the prevalence—exact prevalence or diagnosed prevalence—of patients.
Speaker #7: And then relatedly, because aspire is primary endpoint removes caregiver input and requires the child to demonstrate skills during a single testing session, how should we think about the risk that meaningful home-based gains might not be fully captured by the bailey cognition assessment?
Speaker #2: We know that the incident rate appears to be about 1 in 100,000 or about 30 to 40 new kids diagnosed per year. So if you imagine that they're living until they're teenagers, you can get a sense for what the number of prevalent numbers is like, right?
Speaker #2: Good. So let's start with the last one. The bailey cognition has a relatively small number of caregiver assessments in our team's endpoint teams. Assessment is that it shouldn't be have a material effect on the ROSC scores at this point.
Speaker #2: Does that make sense? We have treated patients up to, I think, eight or nine years old in the trial. We don't know what age range will be in the labeling, but we've shown—even in the older patients—that we stabilize function with regard to ambulation, feeding, and communication at the state they're in when we are able to treat them.
Speaker #2: So we're not concerned about that. Regarding the MDR areas, the areas we studied and presented before in our slides have all been the same ones as we're using.
Speaker #2: So we think there's a justification for treating patients at that age, but we don't know what the label will be. But there is a meaningful population of patients in that age range out there.
Speaker #2: So the five domains are bailey cognition, with the threshold set by the bailey people. We also have communication score receptive communication for the bailey.
Speaker #2: And we have a sense that there is a lot of urgency and desire to get treated. So I hope that gives you at least a feel for it.
Speaker #2: We're using a sleep score and we have a behavior scale, ABC behavior score. And finally, a motor score. Which is either the ASA or the bailey.
Speaker #7: Understood. Thank you so much for taking the question.
Speaker #5: Your next question comes from Joe Schwartz with Learning Partners. Please state your question.
Speaker #2: But those are the five domains. Those domains are ones we saw some meaningful improvement. And the ones that are of importance to patients all of them are contributing if you look at the prior descriptions where we've shown the heat map.
Speaker #7: Thanks. I have a two-part question on Angelman. In Phase 1 and 2, were there particular Bailey cognition items or skill clusters that appeared most sensitive to opposite nursing?
Speaker #2: I think you can see all the endpoints are contributing pretty significantly. So it's really not one or another that's dramatic. But for sleep, for example, there are patients who have a very big effect of sleep because they're very sleep-deprived kids.
Speaker #7: And are those the same skills you expect to drive separation in ASPIRE? And then, relatedly, because ASPIRE's primary endpoint removes caregiver input and requires the child to demonstrate skills during a single testing session, how should we think about the risk that meaningful home-based gains might not be fully captured by the Bayley cognition assessment?
Speaker #2: Other kids that don't have sleep problems where you might not see it. But if you look across those endpoints, we see contribution from all of those endpoints in our they're built into the MDRI.
Speaker #2: So there's no one or other that's, let's say, driving the majority with the MDRI fields. This we'll see. So this is why the MDRI is so powerful.
Speaker #2: Good. So let's start with the last one. The bailey cognition has a relatively small number of caregiver assessments in our team's endpoint team's assessment is that it shouldn't be have a material effect on the ROS scores at this point.
Speaker #2: If you have multiple endpoints, all contributing, you gain a lot more power when you're capturing efficacy from all areas of the patient's benefit.
Speaker #2: So I'm not concerned about that. Regarded.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Your next question comes from Gavin Clark, Garter, with Evercore SI. Please state your question.
Speaker #8: Hi. This is Yseong for Gavin. Thanks for taking our question. So just a follow-up on Angelman phase one two study. Looks like the study originally enrolled 74 patients.
Speaker #8: And efficacy we have seen so far is based on the 40 patients cohort. And the last quarter you mentioned based on the most recent data cutoff, there are 53 patients that has reached the 12-month milestone.
Speaker #8: Can you remind us when do you plan to share those data? And also, especially for the efficacy part, is the data has been consistent with earlier cohort?
Speaker #8: Thank you.
Speaker #2: All right. Well, you're talking about different cohorts and time and depend on whether you're talking about the titration group or we're talking about the expansion group.
Speaker #2: Those are the two groups. And the most recent release, we talked about all the patients who had been on therapy. And we have a few people who left early on in the study.
Speaker #2: And the combination data we presented at the last quarterly call was including all the people together. We presented on the expansion which wasn't everything.
Speaker #2: But we mentioned the last call, which was the near 10 score on all patients together combined for the bailey cognition was the most complete set of data that had at least a year of treatment on it.
Speaker #2: So that included in that data. We are not planning to put out more phase two data at this point because we are where we are with phase three program.
Speaker #2: But I hope that gives you a feel for it. What I would say is we presented previously for example, A and B cohort data.
Speaker #2: That that cohort is very similar to what we're seeing we think is in the phase three. Basically, it's from the same centers that are in the international study.
Speaker #2: So at this point, we're still comfortable. We have learned from phase two. We have disclosed to you is an adequate assessment of the patients in the countries and at the sites that we are using in phase three.
Speaker #8: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from Raghuram Savaraju, with HC Wainwright. Please state your question.
Speaker #7: This is Amit Anfuram. Thank you for taking our questions. I was wondering if you could give some color to the launch readiness for the next two products.
Speaker #7: And when do you expect the how do you see the timing to first phase infusions? And how sensitive is the 2027 profitability target to slower than expected ramp with the products?
Speaker #7: Thank you.
Speaker #2: Okay. I will let me touch on it. Then I'll let Eric talk about launch readiness and maybe you can talk about profitability. What we are we are absolutely driving to assure that we can get patients treated as promptly as possible.
Speaker #2: Because there are a number of patients that are really urgently want to be treated. So we're setting up to do that because we already have two products in the space of inborn errors.
Speaker #2: We already have a team in the fields. We already are operating. And we're going to prepare to build out with a more measured addition.
Speaker #2: But maybe Eric you could talk about what we're doing at QTC. There's an hour we're going to help assure patients get infusion as promptly as we can.
Speaker #7: Yeah. Just to add on something that you stated. We've been preparing now for a few years. Following the initial filings and there's about a 75% overlap with the JOLT BMF70 with the institutions in the healthcare providers that we'll be calling on.
Speaker #7: So we'll be able to leverage our current infrastructure, which we expanded to meet the demands of our previously commercial products. And I just want to also emphasize this will be our fifth and sixth launches.
Speaker #7: So we've successfully launched four products previously. So we certainly know what we're doing. And we'll be prepared we have a number of QTCs already under contract.
Speaker #7: And we'll be expanding that as we prepare in our final preparations for commercialization.
Speaker #2: To be ready to go when we get launched.
Speaker #7: Will be.
Speaker #2: Good.
Speaker #3: Yeah. And then maybe last to your question about the sensitivity of profitability to the launches. You heard my comments earlier on the call about the different factors that play into profitability.
Speaker #3: We haven't been more specific on the exact contribution from launches. But we do imagine one as part of profitability. But I think the important thing to remember is that there's lots of levers to get to a profitable year.
Speaker #3: And so it's not as though every launch is a must. And that's a fortunate place to be in where we have lots of different revenue sources and lots of different ways to manage our allocation of capital.
Speaker #7: Thank you.
Speaker #1: At this point, we have reached the end of the question and answer session. I will now turn the call over to Joshua Higa for a closing remarks.
Speaker #3: So we'll be able to leverage our current infrastructure, which we expanded to meet the demands of our previously commercial products. And I just want to also emphasize, this will be our fifth and sixth launches, so we've successfully launched four products previously.
Speaker #2: Thank you. This concludes today's call. If there are additional questions, please reach out to us by phone or at ir@ultragenics.com. Thank you for joining us.
Speaker #3: So we are— we certainly know what we're doing, and we'll be prepared we have a number of QTCs already under contract, and we'll be expanding that as we prepare in our final preparations for commercialization.
Speaker #1: QB ready to go when we get launched?
Speaker #3: We'll be.
Speaker #1: Good.
Speaker #4: Yeah, and then maybe last to your question about the sensitivity of profitability to the launches, you heard my comments earlier on the call about the different factors that play into profitability.
Speaker #4: We haven't been more specific on the exact contribution from launches, but we do, you know, imagine one as part of profitability. But I think the important thing to remember is that there's lots of levers to get to a profitable year, and so it's not as though, you know, every launch is a must, and that's a fortunate place to be in, where we have lots of different revenue sources and lots of different ways to manage our allocation of capital.
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you, and that— at this point, we have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. I will now turn the call over to Joshua Higa for a closing remarks.
Speaker #4: Thank you. This concludes today's call. If there are additional questions, please reach out to us by phone or at ir@ultragenyx.com. Thank you for joining us.
Operator: Good afternoon, welcome to the Ultragenyx Q2 2026 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. At the end of the prepared remarks, you will have an opportunity to ask questions during the Q&A portion of the call. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Joshua Higa, Chief of Staff and Vice President of Investor Relations.
Operator: Good afternoon, welcome to the Ultragenyx Q2 2026 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. At the end of the prepared remarks, you will have an opportunity to ask questions during the Q&A portion of the call. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Joshua Higa, Chief of Staff and Vice President of Investor Relations.
Josh Higa: Thank you. We have issued a press release detailing our financial results, which you can find on our website at ultragenyx.com. Joining me on this call are Emil Kakkis, Chief Executive Officer and President, Howard Horn, Chief Financial Officer, Erik Harris, Chief Commercial Officer, and Eric Crombez, Chief Medical Officer. I'd like to remind everyone that during today's call, we will be making forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, and our actual results may differ materially. Please refer to the risk factors discussed in our latest SEC filings. I'll now turn the call over to Emil.
Josh Higa: Thank you. We have issued a press release detailing our financial results, which you can find on our website at ultragenyx.com. Joining me on this call are Emil Kakkis, Chief Executive Officer and President, Howard Horn, Chief Financial Officer, Erik Harris, Chief Commercial Officer, and Eric Crombez, Chief Medical Officer. I'd like to remind everyone that during today's call, we will be making forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, and our actual results may differ materially. Please refer to the risk factors discussed in our latest SEC filings. I'll now turn the call over to Emil.
Emil Kakkis: Thanks, Josh, good afternoon, everyone. In the Q2, we continued our pattern of strong execution across the development and commercial organizations. The commercial teams delivered the highest quarterly revenue in the history of the company, which supports our reaffirmed full-year revenue guidance. As they have done in prior quarters, they continue to find new patients and expand access to Crysvita, DOJOLVI, Evkeeza, and MEPSEVII around the world. The commercial and field teams are also preparing for our first two potential gene therapy launches, which are anticipated in the coming months. If approved, both these therapies would represent first-ever treatments for diseases with significant unmet needs and high urgency to treat. The PDUFA date for DTX-401 for GSD 1A is just a few weeks away.
Emil Kakkis: Thanks, Josh, good afternoon, everyone. In the Q2, we continued our pattern of strong execution across the development and commercial organizations. The commercial teams delivered the highest quarterly revenue in the history of the company, which supports our reaffirmed full-year revenue guidance. As they have done in prior quarters, they continue to find new patients and expand access to Crysvita, DOJOLVI, Evkeeza, and MEPSEVII around the world. The commercial and field teams are also preparing for our first two potential gene therapy launches, which are anticipated in the coming months. If approved, both these therapies would represent first-ever treatments for diseases with significant unmet needs and high urgency to treat. The PDUFA date for DTX-401 for GSD 1A is just a few weeks away.
Emil Kakkis: Patients with GSD 1A have to drink a flurry of corn starch every few hours around the clock, day and night, knowing that a single missed dose could lead to their death. This is a constant reminder of their disease and the severe consequence of missing a dose. In our phase I/II and phase III studies, patients treated with DTX-401 have been able to significantly reduce the amount and frequency of corn starch doses to a pre-specified clinically meaningful degree. More importantly, this gene therapy allows patients to have a more normal glucose metabolism, staying in the normal range a larger fraction of the day. The expression of the missing G6Pase enzyme from the DTX-401 vector should allow their liver to break down glycogen to produce glucose during times of fasting or metabolic stress.
Emil Kakkis: Patients with GSD 1A have to drink a flurry of corn starch every few hours around the clock, day and night, knowing that a single missed dose could lead to their death. This is a constant reminder of their disease and the severe consequence of missing a dose. In our phase I/II and phase III studies, patients treated with DTX-401 have been able to significantly reduce the amount and frequency of corn starch doses to a pre-specified clinically meaningful degree. More importantly, this gene therapy allows patients to have a more normal glucose metabolism, staying in the normal range a larger fraction of the day. The expression of the missing G6Pase enzyme from the DTX-401 vector should allow their liver to break down glycogen to produce glucose during times of fasting or metabolic stress.
Emil Kakkis: The ability to regulate glucose better has reduced the burden of disease and reduced the potential for rapid decline to dangerous glucose levels. Transitioning now to UX111. I've been in and around the MPS community for many years, and I've seen so many Sanfilippo patients have to watch helplessly as their children decline and die. Sanfilippo syndrome type A has an urgent need to treat, yet there has been nothing for them. Sanfilippo syndrome is a horrible neurodegenerative disease, and kids are losing brain cells every day. Patients between the age of two and six years progressively lose their cognitive functions. By 10 years old or so, they're often bedridden and tube-fed and in and out of the hospital for many years. They can end up non-responsive for the last five or 10 years and often die as teenagers.
Emil Kakkis: The ability to regulate glucose better has reduced the burden of disease and reduced the potential for rapid decline to dangerous glucose levels. Transitioning now to UX111. I've been in and around the MPS community for many years, and I've seen so many Sanfilippo patients have to watch helplessly as their children decline and die. Sanfilippo syndrome type A has an urgent need to treat, yet there has been nothing for them. Sanfilippo syndrome is a horrible neurodegenerative disease, and kids are losing brain cells every day. Patients between the age of two and six years progressively lose their cognitive functions. By 10 years old or so, they're often bedridden and tube-fed and in and out of the hospital for many years. They can end up non-responsive for the last five or 10 years and often die as teenagers.
Emil Kakkis: Until now, families have had no option but to watch helplessly as their children decline and die. Based on our clinical data, treatment with UX111 reduces heparan sulfate in these patients and enables them to stabilize and retain cognitive function compared to natural history. While patients across the age range in the study showed benefits following treatment with UX111, it's also clear that treating earlier demonstrated better results by protecting their brains before they had lost too much function. With a disease like Sanfilippo syndrome, there's no greater urgency to treat. As longer you wait, the less function you may have. Our development organization under Dr. Crombez has been working with regulatory agencies around the world on BLA submissions for both DTX401 for GSDIa and UX111 for Sanfilippo syndrome type A. These include preparing the applications, responding to information requests, and supporting facility inspections.
Emil Kakkis: Until now, families have had no option but to watch helplessly as their children decline and die. Based on our clinical data, treatment with UX111 reduces heparan sulfate in these patients and enables them to stabilize and retain cognitive function compared to natural history. While patients across the age range in the study showed benefits following treatment with UX111, it's also clear that treating earlier demonstrated better results by protecting their brains before they had lost too much function. With a disease like Sanfilippo syndrome, there's no greater urgency to treat. As longer you wait, the less function you may have. Our development organization under Dr. Crombez has been working with regulatory agencies around the world on BLA submissions for both DTX401 for GSDIa and UX111 for Sanfilippo syndrome type A. These include preparing the applications, responding to information requests, and supporting facility inspections.
Emil Kakkis: This would be a lot for a single BLA. Our team is working simultaneously through the process for two BLAs that have due dates a month apart. We remain confident in the work our team is doing to support these applications. Shifting to GTX-102 for Angelman syndrome, where we have the most advanced clinical ASO program. In the phase III ASPIRE study, the last patient in has had their 48-week visit, and the team's in the process of cleaning and locking the database. For a global study like this, the process can take months, and we expect to unblind and share top-line results with you in September or October timeframe. With three major catalysts on the horizon, H2 2026 is poised to be the most significant period in our company's history.
Emil Kakkis: This would be a lot for a single BLA. Our team is working simultaneously through the process for two BLAs that have due dates a month apart. We remain confident in the work our team is doing to support these applications. Shifting to GTX-102 for Angelman syndrome, where we have the most advanced clinical ASO program. In the phase III ASPIRE study, the last patient in has had their 48-week visit, and the team's in the process of cleaning and locking the database. For a global study like this, the process can take months, and we expect to unblind and share top-line results with you in September or October timeframe. With three major catalysts on the horizon, H2 2026 is poised to be the most significant period in our company's history.
Emil Kakkis: We're positioned to deliver another exciting series of potential firsts for our company, the communities we serve, and the broader field of rare disease medicine, including the first gene therapy approvals for all genetics, the first FDA approvals for two devastating intractable rare diseases, and the first late-stage clinical data in Angelman syndrome. It's a privilege to continue to lead the future of rare disease medicine, and we believe the combination of continued growth from our current products, accelerated by contribution from potential upcoming launches and disciplined expense management, gives us a clear path to profitability in 2027. I'll now turn the call over to our Chief Commercial Officer, Erik Harris, who'll provide details on the commercial business and launch readiness activities in Q2.
Emil Kakkis: We're positioned to deliver another exciting series of potential firsts for our company, the communities we serve, and the broader field of rare disease medicine, including the first gene therapy approvals for all genetics, the first FDA approvals for two devastating intractable rare diseases, and the first late-stage clinical data in Angelman syndrome. It's a privilege to continue to lead the future of rare disease medicine, and we believe the combination of continued growth from our current products, accelerated by contribution from potential upcoming launches and disciplined expense management, gives us a clear path to profitability in 2027. I'll now turn the call over to our Chief Commercial Officer, Erik Harris, who'll provide details on the commercial business and launch readiness activities in Q2.
Erik Harris: Thank you, good afternoon, everyone. As Emil mentioned, we are pleased with our steady, successful commercial execution, and we continue to see the benefit of our global infrastructure across products and regions. As we described on the last call, underlying demand for our products remains strong, but seasonal factors can cause quarter-to-quarter variability in revenue. In Q2, we saw the strong rebound in orders that we were expecting, reinforcing our confidence that we are on track to deliver against our full-year guidance. Starting with Crysvita in North America, where our partner, KKC, is commercializing, we continue to see steady growth in the underlying demand. Eight years post-launch, it's extremely gratifying to continue to see the steady addition of new patients starting this therapy.
Erik Harris: Thank you, good afternoon, everyone. As Emil mentioned, we are pleased with our steady, successful commercial execution, and we continue to see the benefit of our global infrastructure across products and regions. As we described on the last call, underlying demand for our products remains strong, but seasonal factors can cause quarter-to-quarter variability in revenue. In Q2, we saw the strong rebound in orders that we were expecting, reinforcing our confidence that we are on track to deliver against our full-year guidance. Starting with Crysvita in North America, where our partner, KKC, is commercializing, we continue to see steady growth in the underlying demand. Eight years post-launch, it's extremely gratifying to continue to see the steady addition of new patients starting this therapy.
Erik Harris: In Latin America, Crysvita performance was strong in Q2, supported by the combination of continued patient growth and timing of regional orders, including Brazil and Argentina. Approximately 50 patients began commercial therapy in the quarter, bringing the total number of patients on Crysvita to 1,000 in the region. As discussed, we expect that ordering patterns will continue to create some quarter-to-quarter variability, and we are confident that the underlying demand will continue to grow steadily. In Turkey, there are over 100 patients being treated with Crysvita through the named patient program. As has been the case in other countries, there is accelerating demand as HCPs and patients see the benefits this transformative therapy offers. Shifting now to DOJOLVI, the trend of steady growth continues. In North America, our team generated approximately 30 start forms in the quarter, and we now have approximately 675 patients on reimbursed therapy.
Erik Harris: In Latin America, Crysvita performance was strong in Q2, supported by the combination of continued patient growth and timing of regional orders, including Brazil and Argentina. Approximately 50 patients began commercial therapy in the quarter, bringing the total number of patients on Crysvita to 1,000 in the region. As discussed, we expect that ordering patterns will continue to create some quarter-to-quarter variability, and we are confident that the underlying demand will continue to grow steadily. In Turkey, there are over 100 patients being treated with Crysvita through the named patient program. As has been the case in other countries, there is accelerating demand as HCPs and patients see the benefits this transformative therapy offers. Shifting now to DOJOLVI, the trend of steady growth continues. In North America, our team generated approximately 30 start forms in the quarter, and we now have approximately 675 patients on reimbursed therapy.
Erik Harris: In Europe, approximately 300 patients are being treated through named patient or early access programs, with notable growth in the MENA region following marketing authorization approval in Kuwait. We also recently began treating patients with DOJOLVI in Japan, following its listing on the National Health Insurance Drug Price list. We are off to a strong start in demand, reinforcing our belief that this country represents another meaningful opportunity for continued growth over time. Evkeeza continues to be an important and growing contributor to our revenue base. In our territories outside of the United States, we are responsible for commercialization. There are more than 500 patients across 25 countries receiving Evkeeza. As our teams continue to navigate country-by-country reimbursement, support early access, and convert appropriate patients to reimburse therapy. Beyond the individual product performance, the real strength of this business is the scale, reach, and experience of our global commercial infrastructure.
Erik Harris: In Europe, approximately 300 patients are being treated through named patient or early access programs, with notable growth in the MENA region following marketing authorization approval in Kuwait. We also recently began treating patients with DOJOLVI in Japan, following its listing on the National Health Insurance Drug Price list. We are off to a strong start in demand, reinforcing our belief that this country represents another meaningful opportunity for continued growth over time. Evkeeza continues to be an important and growing contributor to our revenue base. In our territories outside of the United States, we are responsible for commercialization. There are more than 500 patients across 25 countries receiving Evkeeza. As our teams continue to navigate country-by-country reimbursement, support early access, and convert appropriate patients to reimburse therapy. Beyond the individual product performance, the real strength of this business is the scale, reach, and experience of our global commercial infrastructure.
Erik Harris: Rare disease commercialization requires deep market-by-market expertise to include patient finding, reimbursement navigation, and field execution. That is what our global team provides every quarter in giving us high confidence that we will be prepared for the next potential launches. I'll close briefly with a couple of comments on the team's work preparing to successfully launch DTX401 and UX111. Launching two gene therapies in parallel is a big undertaking. We are up to the task and ready to deliver for patients. We are preparing thoughtfully and deliberately to support not only patients and caregivers, but clinicians and payers beginning on day one. As we prepare for these potential launches, we are actively working with Qualified Treatment Centers, or QTCs, with contracting and activities progressing as planned.
Erik Harris: Rare disease commercialization requires deep market-by-market expertise to include patient finding, reimbursement navigation, and field execution. That is what our global team provides every quarter in giving us high confidence that we will be prepared for the next potential launches. I'll close briefly with a couple of comments on the team's work preparing to successfully launch DTX401 and UX111. Launching two gene therapies in parallel is a big undertaking. We are up to the task and ready to deliver for patients. We are preparing thoughtfully and deliberately to support not only patients and caregivers, but clinicians and payers beginning on day one. As we prepare for these potential launches, we are actively working with Qualified Treatment Centers, or QTCs, with contracting and activities progressing as planned.
Erik Harris: We believe their strong engagement reflects their sense of urgency for patients and families impacted by GSD 1A and Sanfilippo syndrome type A, and their understanding of the clinical potential of our investigational gene therapies. Our market access preparations are also progressing well, informed by extensive education and engagement efforts across more than 200 engagements with payers. We've been pleased that they recognize the significant unmet need associated with both diseases and understand the particular urgency to treat in Sanfilippo syndrome. The foundation necessary to support broad and timely access is set, with a focus on minimizing barriers for eligible patients following approval. We've been building toward these potential launches for years. We stand ready to add these products to our existing portfolio and expand our mission of helping patients with rare disease.
Erik Harris: We believe their strong engagement reflects their sense of urgency for patients and families impacted by GSD 1A and Sanfilippo syndrome type A, and their understanding of the clinical potential of our investigational gene therapies. Our market access preparations are also progressing well, informed by extensive education and engagement efforts across more than 200 engagements with payers. We've been pleased that they recognize the significant unmet need associated with both diseases and understand the particular urgency to treat in Sanfilippo syndrome.
Erik Harris: The foundation necessary to support broad and timely access is set, with a focus on minimizing barriers for eligible patients following approval. We've been building toward these potential launches for years. We stand ready to add these products to our existing portfolio and expand our mission of helping patients with rare disease. With that, I'll turn the call to Howard to share more details on our financial results and guidance.
Erik Harris: With that, I'll turn the call to Howard to share more details on our financial results and guidance.
Howard Horn: Thank you, Eric, and good afternoon, everyone. I'll focus on our Q2 financial results, guidance for the year, and provide a few comments on our path to profitability. Starting with revenue, total revenue for Q2 2026 was $214 million. Crysvita contributed $156 million, including $94 million from North America, $54 million from Latin America and Turkey, and $8 million from Europe, which were consistent with the anticipated quarterly timing and trends Eric just mentioned. DOJOLVI contributed $27 million, consistent with our expectation for steady demand growth. Evkeeza contributed $21 million, representing 50% growth over Q2 2025 as demand continues to build following launches in our territories outside of the United States. MEPSEVII contributed $10 million as we continue to treat patients in this ultra-rare indication.
Howard Horn: Thank you, Eric, and good afternoon, everyone. I'll focus on our Q2 financial results, guidance for the year, and provide a few comments on our path to profitability. Starting with revenue, total revenue for Q2 2026 was $214 million. Crysvita contributed $156 million, including $94 million from North America, $54 million from Latin America and Turkey, and $8 million from Europe, which were consistent with the anticipated quarterly timing and trends Eric just mentioned. DOJOLVI contributed $27 million, consistent with our expectation for steady demand growth. Evkeeza contributed $21 million, representing 50% growth over Q2 2025 as demand continues to build following launches in our territories outside of the United States. MEPSEVII contributed $10 million as we continue to treat patients in this ultra-rare indication.
Howard Horn: Total operating expenses for the quarter were $289 million, which included cost of sales of $34 million and combined R&D and SG&A expenses of $255 million. Total operating expenses included $34 million of non-cash stock-based compensation. For the quarter, net loss was $92 million, or $0.90 per share. As of 30 June, we had $436 million in cash equivalents, and marketable securities. Net cash used in operations for the quarter was $97 million, a significant decrease from Q1 and consistent with the expectations we discussed on our last call. As noted in our press release, we are reaffirming our financial guidance for revenue and combined R&D and SG&A operating expenses. Finally, I want to share a few thoughts on how we plan to achieve our path to profitability in 2027. There are three primary factors.
Howard Horn: Total operating expenses for the quarter were $289 million, which included cost of sales of $34 million and combined R&D and SG&A expenses of $255 million. Total operating expenses included $34 million of non-cash stock-based compensation. For the quarter, net loss was $92 million, or $0.90 per share. As of 30 June, we had $436 million in cash equivalents, and marketable securities. Net cash used in operations for the quarter was $97 million, a significant decrease from Q1 and consistent with the expectations we discussed on our last call. As noted in our press release, we are reaffirming our financial guidance for revenue and combined R&D and SG&A operating expenses. Finally, I want to share a few thoughts on how we plan to achieve our path to profitability in 2027. There are three primary factors.
Howard Horn: First, continued double-digit revenue growth from our current products, plus contributions from our potential upcoming launches. Second, continued expense discipline and strategic capital allocation to support our launches as outlined in our operating expense guidance. Third, incremental non-dilutive capital to bolster our balance sheet from monetization of the priority review vouchers associated with GTX-401 and UX111, if approved. With that, I'll turn the call to our Chief Medical Officer, Eric Crombez.
Howard Horn: First, continued double-digit revenue growth from our current products, plus contributions from our potential upcoming launches. Second, continued expense discipline and strategic capital allocation to support our launches as outlined in our operating expense guidance. Third, incremental non-dilutive capital to bolster our balance sheet from monetization of the priority review vouchers associated with GTX-401 and UX111, if approved. With that, I'll turn the call to our Chief Medical Officer, Eric Crombez.
Eric Crombez: Thank you, Howard, and good afternoon, everyone. I'll start with GTX-102, or apazequenersen, our antisense oligonucleotide for the treatment of Angelman syndrome. As Emil mentioned, and something that I am sure you are tracking closely, we are approaching the phase III ASPIRE data readout expected in the September or October timeframe. The ASPIRE study is a randomized, double-blind, sham-controlled study that enrolled patients with a full maternal UBE3A gene deletion, and our criteria for success are well-defined. In the 48-week study, the primary statistical alpha is split between the Bayley-4 cognitive raw score at 80% and the multi-domain responder index, or MDRI, at 20%. This is not a hierarchical evaluation, meaning both endpoints are tested in parallel.
Eric Crombez: Thank you, Howard, and good afternoon, everyone. I'll start with GTX-102, or apazequenersen, our antisense oligonucleotide for the treatment of Angelman syndrome. As Emil mentioned, and something that I am sure you are tracking closely, we are approaching the phase III ASPIRE data readout expected in the September or October timeframe. The ASPIRE study is a randomized, double-blind, sham-controlled study that enrolled patients with a full maternal UBE3A gene deletion, and our criteria for success are well-defined. In the 48-week study, the primary statistical alpha is split between the Bayley-4 cognitive raw score at 80% and the multi-domain responder index, or MDRI, at 20%. This is not a hierarchical evaluation, meaning both endpoints are tested in parallel.
Eric Crombez: If the Bayley cognition endpoint reaches a P value equal or less than 0.04, or if the MDRI reaches a P value equal or less than 0.01, we will have a statistically successful phase III study. We designed and powered the study to hit both endpoints, but we do not need both endpoints to achieve statistical significance in order to have a successful study. Across the phase I/II program, patients have now been on continuous therapy for an average of three years, with the longest approaching five years, which represents the most significant and mature data set in the field. These patients continue to demonstrate meaningful improvements across multiple development domains while maintaining a consistent safety profile. The phase I/II open-label single-arm data demonstrates substantial clinical benefit well beyond what might be considered with placebo, though it is in an open-label setting.
Eric Crombez: If the Bayley cognition endpoint reaches a P value equal or less than 0.04, or if the MDRI reaches a P value equal or less than 0.01, we will have a statistically successful phase III study. We designed and powered the study to hit both endpoints, but we do not need both endpoints to achieve statistical significance in order to have a successful study. Across the phase I/II program, patients have now been on continuous therapy for an average of three years, with the longest approaching five years, which represents the most significant and mature data set in the field. These patients continue to demonstrate meaningful improvements across multiple development domains while maintaining a consistent safety profile. The phase I/II open-label single-arm data demonstrates substantial clinical benefit well beyond what might be considered with placebo, though it is in an open-label setting.
Eric Crombez: We believe that the long-term experience beyond the first year of treatment remains even more important as we evaluate the potential for GTX-102 to provide meaningful benefit with chronic dosing in the commercial setting. Shifting to UX143, or setrusumab, our monoclonal antibody for the treatment of osteogenesis imperfecta. At the end of last year, we shared the results from the phase III ORBIT and COSMIC studies. While neither study hit statistical significance for the primary endpoints of annualized fracture reductions, we did see clear signals of biologic activity, statistically meaningful improvements in bone mineral density and patient-reported outcomes, and meaningful reductions in fractures in certain bones and in patients with higher fracture frequencies. Since then, we have continued analyzing the data and have had discussions with regulators in the US and UK.
Eric Crombez: We believe that the long-term experience beyond the first year of treatment remains even more important as we evaluate the potential for GTX-102 to provide meaningful benefit with chronic dosing in the commercial setting. Shifting to UX143, or setrusumab, our monoclonal antibody for the treatment of osteogenesis imperfecta. At the end of last year, we shared the results from the phase III ORBIT and COSMIC studies. While neither study hit statistical significance for the primary endpoints of annualized fracture reductions, we did see clear signals of biologic activity, statistically meaningful improvements in bone mineral density and patient-reported outcomes, and meaningful reductions in fractures in certain bones and in patients with higher fracture frequencies. Since then, we have continued analyzing the data and have had discussions with regulators in the US and UK.
Eric Crombez: Based on the discussion with the MHRA, we believe that a new randomized study may be needed before they would consider reviewing an application for approval. The FDA indicated openness to considering alternative approaches to fracture analysis. We will need additional conversations with them to further define what additional clinical data would be needed to support a potential BLA. I'll now turn the call back to Emil to provide a reminder of our catalysts for 2026 and some closing remarks.
Eric Crombez: Based on the discussion with the MHRA, we believe that a new randomized study may be needed before they would consider reviewing an application for approval. The FDA indicated openness to considering alternative approaches to fracture analysis. We will need additional conversations with them to further define what additional clinical data would be needed to support a potential BLA. I'll now turn the call back to Emil to provide a reminder of our catalysts for 2026 and some closing remarks.
Emil Kakkis: Thank you, Erik. I'll close with a few of the important catalysts we have later this year. A full list can be seen in the corporate deck posted to our website. Starting with DTX401 for the treatment of Glycogen Storage Disease Type Ia, where we continue to work with FDA ahead of our PDUFA action date of 23 August. Next, UX111 for the treatment of Sanfilippo syndrome. Similar to DTX401, we continue to work with FDA ahead of the PDUFA action date of 19 September. Lastly, GTX-102 for the treatment of Angelman syndrome, where we're on track to read out top-line phase II data from the ASPIRE study in the September or October timeframe. The Q2 reinforced the continued strength of our global commercial business and our expertise in developing first-ever medicines for patients with rare diseases.
Emil Kakkis: Thank you, Erik. I'll close with a few of the important catalysts we have later this year. A full list can be seen in the corporate deck posted to our website. Starting with DTX401 for the treatment of Glycogen Storage Disease Type Ia, where we continue to work with FDA ahead of our PDUFA action date of 23 August. Next, UX111 for the treatment of Sanfilippo syndrome. Similar to DTX401, we continue to work with FDA ahead of the PDUFA action date of 19 September. Lastly, GTX-102 for the treatment of Angelman syndrome, where we're on track to read out top-line phase II data from the ASPIRE study in the September or October timeframe. The Q2 reinforced the continued strength of our global commercial business and our expertise in developing first-ever medicines for patients with rare diseases.
Emil Kakkis: We are ready for potential launches, continue to execute across the portfolio, and are approaching a set of milestones that could meaningfully expand our impact for patients and accelerate the next phase of growth for Ultragenyx. With that, let's move on to your questions. Operator, please provide the Q&A instructions.
Emil Kakkis: We are ready for potential launches, continue to execute across the portfolio, and are approaching a set of milestones that could meaningfully expand our impact for patients and accelerate the next phase of growth for Ultragenyx. With that, let's move on to your questions. Operator, please provide the Q&A instructions.
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Operator: Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. Please limit yourselves to one question and one follow-up question for each time you enter the queue. To ask a question, press *1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press *2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question comes from Kristen Kluska with Cantor Fitzgerald. Please state your question.
Kristen Kluska: Hi. Good afternoon. Congrats on a really strong quarter. For Angelman syndrome, was hoping you could provide a little bit more context on these endpoints, specifically if the FDA has signed off whether one endpoint or not would be sufficient for filing. Also understanding what's clinically meaningful. Understand that these both endpoints were powered for success, were they also powered to show results that the community would deem clinically acceptable? Thank you.
Kristen Kluska: Hi. Good afternoon. Congrats on a really strong quarter. For Angelman syndrome, was hoping you could provide a little bit more context on these endpoints, specifically if the FDA has signed off whether one endpoint or not would be sufficient for filing. Also understanding what's clinically meaningful. Understand that these both endpoints were powered for success, were they also powered to show results that the community would deem clinically acceptable? Thank you.
Emil Kakkis: We had our discussion with the FDA on the sharing of primary alpha, and that was agreed to in the phase II IMpULSE discussions on the two endpoints. Sharing of alpha means that either endpoint can be positive in their analysis. With regard to powering, we are powering based on the effects we've seen. We think a 5 or 6-point change, for example, in the Bayley should be sufficient to achieve significance, and that would be the 6-point level is considered clinically meaningful. For the MDRI, it only scores if there's clinically meaningful results. That is, each domain improvement requires a threshold of clinical meaningfulness. In that, previously we've seen, as you remember in phase II, about two domains net positive that were in the clinically meaningful range. Because of the design, we would see MDRI would be positive only with clinically meaningful results.
Emil Kakkis: We had our discussion with the FDA on the sharing of primary alpha, and that was agreed to in the phase II IMpULSE discussions on the two endpoints. Sharing of alpha means that either endpoint can be positive in their analysis. With regard to powering, we are powering based on the effects we've seen. We think a 5 or 6-point change, for example, in the Bayley should be sufficient to achieve significance, and that would be the 6-point level is considered clinically meaningful. For the MDRI, it only scores if there's clinically meaningful results. That is, each domain improvement requires a threshold of clinical meaningfulness. In that, previously we've seen, as you remember in phase II, about two domains net positive that were in the clinically meaningful range. Because of the design, we would see MDRI would be positive only with clinically meaningful results.
Emil Kakkis: At this point, we feel comfortable about the 2-endpoint approach, and we think the powering will be positive with clinically meaningful results based on our plan. We will see the data when they come.
Emil Kakkis: At this point, we feel comfortable about the 2-endpoint approach, and we think the powering will be positive with clinically meaningful results based on our plan. We will see the data when they come.
Josh Higa: Thanks, operator. Let's move to the next question.
Josh Higa: Thanks, operator. Let's move to the next question.
Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Yaron Werber with TD Cowen. Please state your question.
Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Yaron Werber with TD Cowen. Please state your question.
Yaron Werber: Great. Thanks so much. Maybe on the MDRI endpoint, which I think has generated some confusion from investors. As you know, this is the first and most important secondary, but it's really a co-primary. It's not been used before in Angelman, but you've used it in some of your other MPS disorders. Can you talk about the level of sensitivity and whether it's a better endpoint than cognition, just given that it's a co-primary? Thank you so much.
Yaron Werber: Great. Thanks so much. Maybe on the MDRI endpoint, which I think has generated some confusion from investors. As you know, this is the first and most important secondary, but it's really a co-primary. It's not been used before in Angelman, but you've used it in some of your other MPS disorders. Can you talk about the level of sensitivity and whether it's a better endpoint than cognition, just given that it's a co-primary? Thank you so much.
Emil Kakkis: Yes, the MDRI approach simply captures efficacy across multiple domains using a clinically meaningful threshold in order to capture any positive results. What we're saying is any of, let's say, five or six endpoints, if there's a clinically meaningful change to the patient, we count that and add up all those clinically meaningful changes together. We used it previously in the MEPSEVII program, which it was significant in our 12-patient trial. In our analyses published in our paper, the MDRI was, for example, 10-fold more powerful to detect change in an enzyme replacement therapy trial compared to individual endpoints. That's what we've published before. We think it's substantially more sensitive. When you look at the Angelman Phase II data, even in the 15-patient trial, we show substantial power with P values less than 0.01 even in small study. It's more powerful because we capture more efficacy in it.
Emil Kakkis: Yes, the MDRI approach simply captures efficacy across multiple domains using a clinically meaningful threshold in order to capture any positive results. What we're saying is any of, let's say, five or six endpoints, if there's a clinically meaningful change to the patient, we count that and add up all those clinically meaningful changes together. We used it previously in the MEPSEVII program, which it was significant in our 12-patient trial. In our analyses published in our paper, the MDRI was, for example, 10-fold more powerful to detect change in an enzyme replacement therapy trial compared to individual endpoints. That's what we've published before. We think it's substantially more sensitive. When you look at the Angelman Phase II data, even in the 15-patient trial, we show substantial power with P values less than 0.01 even in small study. It's more powerful because we capture more efficacy in it.
Emil Kakkis: Its sensitivity is very good, but its meaning is greater, and it's one of the reasons we want it. It's not just sensitivity. Being able to show through five important domains for paneling what a drug is doing, I think is a better assessment of what a drug does in a disease as complex as Angelman, as you know, since you've worked in the area. We think it's just a better way of describing. However, it is new and it's different, but we're confident in its clinical meaningfulness and its power in detecting change in diverse, complex disorders like Angelman syndrome.
Emil Kakkis: Its sensitivity is very good, but its meaning is greater, and it's one of the reasons we want it. It's not just sensitivity. Being able to show through five important domains for paneling what a drug is doing, I think is a better assessment of what a drug does in a disease as complex as Angelman, as you know, since you've worked in the area. We think it's just a better way of describing. However, it is new and it's different, but we're confident in its clinical meaningfulness and its power in detecting change in diverse, complex disorders like Angelman syndrome.
Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Yigal Nochomovitz with Citi. Please state your question.
Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Yigal Nochomovitz with Citi. Please state your question.
Yigal Nochomovitz: Yeah. Hi, how are you? I just wanted to ask with regard to the filing plans, are you going to file on the data coming up in September or October, or the additional study and additional genotypes will also support the Angelman's filing? Can you just comment on the order of operations with regard to what data sets will be included? Thank you.
Yigal Nochomovitz: Yeah. Hi, how are you? I just wanted to ask with regard to the filing plans, are you going to file on the data coming up in September or October, or the additional study and additional genotypes will also support the Angelman's filing? Can you just comment on the order of operations with regard to what data sets will be included? Thank you.
Emil Kakkis: Yeah. Thank you, Yigal. We haven't discussed publicly what we're going to do about filing. It's something under consideration, at this point, we're not going to describe what our plan is. We're collecting data in all the types in our program. Our expectation is to get approval in all the types, we won't discuss at this point what our filing timeline is. Thank you.
Emil Kakkis: Yeah. Thank you, Yigal. We haven't discussed publicly what we're going to do about filing. It's something under consideration, at this point, we're not going to describe what our plan is. We're collecting data in all the types in our program. Our expectation is to get approval in all the types, we won't discuss at this point what our filing timeline is. Thank you.
Yigal Nochomovitz: Okay. Thank you.
Yigal Nochomovitz: Okay. Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Maury Raycroft with Jefferies. Please state your question.
Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Maury Raycroft with Jefferies. Please state your question.
Maury Raycroft: Hi. Congrats on the quarter, thanks for taking my question. I'll ask one on Angelman as well. Wondering if there have been any cases of lower extremity weakness or neuroinflammation based on DMC feedback during the study, and how are you setting expectations on this for the top-line disclosure? I guess what's the latest you can say on the dropout rate from the phase III?
Maury Raycroft: Hi. Congrats on the quarter, thanks for taking my question. I'll ask one on Angelman as well. Wondering if there have been any cases of lower extremity weakness or neuroinflammation based on DMC feedback during the study, and how are you setting expectations on this for the top-line disclosure? I guess what's the latest you can say on the dropout rate from the phase III?
Emil Kakkis: Yeah. We usually don't describe all the details and operation of the study. Honestly, the safety and efficacy will have to get evaluated together. The study has never stopped or had any issue during its conduct. It's continued smoothly through at this point. There's been no safety issue to cause a problem that stopped the study. I would say we're comfortable where we are. I think we don't expect to see a different safety profile from what we've seen before going forward.
Emil Kakkis: Yeah. We usually don't describe all the details and operation of the study. Honestly, the safety and efficacy will have to get evaluated together. The study has never stopped or had any issue during its conduct. It's continued smoothly through at this point. There's been no safety issue to cause a problem that stopped the study. I would say we're comfortable where we are. I think we don't expect to see a different safety profile from what we've seen before going forward.
Josh Higa: Emil,
Josh Higa: Emil,
Emil Kakkis: Got it.
Emil Kakkis: Got it.
Josh Higa: Do you want to comment on the discontinuation rates that we saw?
Josh Higa: Do you want to comment on the discontinuation rates that we saw?
Emil Kakkis: Well, we wouldn't comment on that. It's also part of study conduct at this point. If you look past it to phase II program, we've had very few, and usually it's more towards the beginning. Among patients that get, let's say, after six, eight, seven, eight months, we had a very good persistence of those patients long term.
Emil Kakkis: Well, we wouldn't comment on that. It's also part of study conduct at this point. If you look past it to phase II program, we've had very few, and usually it's more towards the beginning. Among patients that get, let's say, after six, eight, seven, eight months, we had a very good persistence of those patients long term.
Maury Raycroft: Got it. Thank you.
Maury Raycroft: Got it. Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from Ellie Merle with Barclays. Please state your question.
Operator: Your next question comes from Ellie Merle with Barclays. Please state your question.
Ellie Merle: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Another two on Angelman. First, I guess what are your latest expectations for the placebo arm performance on MDRI and the Bayley Cognition score, and your confidence that there won't be a placebo effect? Second, I guess if you show a trend on both endpoints but do not reach statistical significance, curious how you would approach that with the regulators in terms of a potential filing. Thanks.
Ellie Merle: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Another two on Angelman. First, I guess what are your latest expectations for the placebo arm performance on MDRI and the Bayley Cognition score, and your confidence that there won't be a placebo effect? Second, I guess if you show a trend on both endpoints but do not reach statistical significance, curious how you would approach that with the regulators in terms of a potential filing. Thanks.
Emil Kakkis: Great. We have talked about the placebo effect before. I think in the Bayley Cognition, where we have both natural history and the randomized data from another study, the effect has been one point or less in the Bayley Cognition. It doesn't change. Honestly, placebo effects usually don't happen in things like a Bayley score because the patient is not cognitive of what the change should be. It can happen if you're using parent input, but in this case, we think it's unlikely to see a placebo effect for the Bayley. In the MDRI, we're looking at multiple different endpoints. It is possible that some of those could change. However, we think that the threshold of clinical meaningful change means just a little bit of change from by a few things wouldn't score. It has to be a really pretty big change before you can score.
Emil Kakkis: Great. We have talked about the placebo effect before. I think in the Bayley Cognition, where we have both natural history and the randomized data from another study, the effect has been one point or less in the Bayley Cognition. It doesn't change. Honestly, placebo effects usually don't happen in things like a Bayley score because the patient is not cognitive of what the change should be. It can happen if you're using parent input, but in this case, we think it's unlikely to see a placebo effect for the Bayley. In the MDRI, we're looking at multiple different endpoints. It is possible that some of those could change. However, we think that the threshold of clinical meaningful change means just a little bit of change from by a few things wouldn't score. It has to be a really pretty big change before you can score.
Emil Kakkis: I think that should filter out, I would call, random placebo changes. At this point we feel both, I don't think placebo effect would be an issue. It is neurology, though, I always say, and we always have to consider we learn things. We think we've designed it to manage any placebo effect in both endpoints.
Emil Kakkis: I think that should filter out, I would call, random placebo changes. At this point we feel both, I don't think placebo effect would be an issue. It is neurology, though, I always say, and we always have to consider we learn things. We think we've designed it to manage any placebo effect in both endpoints.
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Emil Kakkis: That's good.
Emil Kakkis: That's good.
Operator: My thanks. The next question comes from Anupam Rama with JPMorgan. Please state your question.
Operator: My thanks. The next question comes from Anupam Rama with JPMorgan. Please state your question.
Anupam Rama: Hey, guys. Thanks so much for taking the question. Emil, could you just clarify your comments a little bit on GTX-102 and Bayley? I think you said you needed a 5- to 6-point change to kind of hit stats relative to placebo. I think that's the first time you've kind of really quantified that. I am assuming that's raw score, right? Using GSV, if I remember back to your phase II, you showed a similar-ish effect, right, in phase II. I was just wondering if you could clarify those comments. Thanks so much.
Anupam Rama: Hey, guys. Thanks so much for taking the question. Emil, could you just clarify your comments a little bit on GTX-102 and Bayley? I think you said you needed a 5- to 6-point change to kind of hit stats relative to placebo. I think that's the first time you've kind of really quantified that. I am assuming that's raw score, right? Using GSV, if I remember back to your phase II, you showed a similar-ish effect, right, in phase II. I was just wondering if you could clarify those comments. Thanks so much.
Emil Kakkis: Yeah, I wasn't saying that's the threshold for powering. I was saying that a 5, 6 point is a clinically meaningful change, and we're powered to detect that average change. That's what I meant to say. I didn't mean to say we're only powered for that threshold. We are well powered to detect anything that would be considered clinically meaningful in that range. In the data we put out recently, we said it was near 10 score when you combine all the data together at one year. If you look at all the various sets of the data, it's in that range that we would expect the data to be. What I'm saying is we're powered. Whatever we would detect should be a clinically meaningful change, and we are confident we can do that.
Emil Kakkis: Yeah, I wasn't saying that's the threshold for powering. I was saying that a 5, 6 point is a clinically meaningful change, and we're powered to detect that average change. That's what I meant to say. I didn't mean to say we're only powered for that threshold. We are well powered to detect anything that would be considered clinically meaningful in that range. In the data we put out recently, we said it was near 10 score when you combine all the data together at one year. If you look at all the various sets of the data, it's in that range that we would expect the data to be. What I'm saying is we're powered. Whatever we would detect should be a clinically meaningful change, and we are confident we can do that.
Anupam Rama: Great. Thanks for the clarification.
Anupam Rama: Great. Thanks for the clarification.
Operator: Your next question comes from Jack Allen with Baird. Please state your question.
Operator: Your next question comes from Jack Allen with Baird. Please state your question.
Jack Allen: Great. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on the progress made over the course of the quarter. I'll keep the train rolling here as it relates to GTX-102. I wanted to ask a quick clarifying question around the allocation of the alpha. I understand on the call and on the more recent calls, you've been discussing how you have a 80% allocation of alpha to the Bayley-4 cognition endpoint and a 20% allocation to mDRI. I was looking at the completion of enrollment press release from July of last year, and I think it was a 90/10 alpha allocation there. I'm just curious if there was a change to the statistics between the completion of enrollment and the potential readout here, and what elicited that change?
Jack Allen: Great. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on the progress made over the course of the quarter. I'll keep the train rolling here as it relates to GTX-102. I wanted to ask a quick clarifying question around the allocation of the alpha. I understand on the call and on the more recent calls, you've been discussing how you have a 80% allocation of alpha to the Bayley-4 cognition endpoint and a 20% allocation to mDRI. I was looking at the completion of enrollment press release from July of last year, and I think it was a 90/10 alpha allocation there. I'm just curious if there was a change to the statistics between the completion of enrollment and the potential readout here, and what elicited that change?
Emil Kakkis: Our current plan is to do 80/20. 90/10 are very similar. I don't really think they're materially different. We decided to make it 80/20. There was no particular date or other reason for it. It was just our take on the split between the two. It doesn't, I don't think, meaningfully change things, but the MDRI is very powerful. We think 10% or 20% is probably adequate for that. We had given 80% and 90% to the Bayley. In our discussion with FDA, that was the split we had, but they're comfortable with what we are proposing at this point.
Emil Kakkis: Our current plan is to do 80/20. 90/10 are very similar. I don't really think they're materially different. We decided to make it 80/20. There was no particular date or other reason for it. It was just our take on the split between the two. It doesn't, I don't think, meaningfully change things, but the MDRI is very powerful. We think 10% or 20% is probably adequate for that. We had given 80% and 90% to the Bayley. In our discussion with FDA, that was the split we had, but they're comfortable with what we are proposing at this point.
Jack Allen: Thanks for the call.
Jack Allen: Thanks for the call.
Emil Kakkis: I think let's go to the next.
Emil Kakkis: I think let's go to the next.
Operator: Your next question comes from Allison Bratzel with Piper Sandler. Please state your question.
Operator: Your next question comes from Allison Bratzel with Piper Sandler. Please state your question.
Allison Bratzel: Hey, good afternoon and thanks for taking the question. Just as clarification on setrusumab. I think in the prepared remarks, you said FDA had indicated openness to alternatives to the fracture analysis, but you need to further define what would be needed for a BLA. Could you just clarify that? Do you feel you have a viable package from the existing COSMIC and ORBIT dataset? Just how important is that open-label extension data that's being generated now? Just what's the next point you would be able to update The Street on FDA interactions and the path forward in the US? Thanks.
Allison Bratzel: Hey, good afternoon and thanks for taking the question. Just as clarification on setrusumab. I think in the prepared remarks, you said FDA had indicated openness to alternatives to the fracture analysis, but you need to further define what would be needed for a BLA. Could you just clarify that? Do you feel you have a viable package from the existing COSMIC and ORBIT dataset? Just how important is that open-label extension data that's being generated now? Just what's the next point you would be able to update The Street on FDA interactions and the path forward in the US? Thanks.
Emil Kakkis: Yes. Our comments were basically on the type of fractures and type of patients that we were talking about with regard to what fracture analysis they would want. What we said, though, is that our discussions suggest some additional clinical data will be required, and we need to define what that is, which is not fully defined yet. We cannot state at this point whether extension data alone or whether there's any additional data required at this point in time. All right. We are discussing with them. I think they've been very open to a discussion and a path forward, and we just need to come up with a good plan to get us to that viable package.
Emil Kakkis: Yes. Our comments were basically on the type of fractures and type of patients that we were talking about with regard to what fracture analysis they would want. What we said, though, is that our discussions suggest some additional clinical data will be required, and we need to define what that is, which is not fully defined yet. We cannot state at this point whether extension data alone or whether there's any additional data required at this point in time. All right. We are discussing with them. I think they've been very open to a discussion and a path forward, and we just need to come up with a good plan to get us to that viable package.
Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Maxwell Skor with Morgan Stanley. Please state your question.
Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Maxwell Skor with Morgan Stanley. Please state your question.
Maxwell Skor: Great. Thank you very much for taking my question. Another on Angelman. With the centralized raters, have you seen a reduction in variability in the blinded baseline data compared to the phase I/II? Thank you.
Maxwell Skor: Great. Thank you very much for taking my question. Another on Angelman. With the centralized raters, have you seen a reduction in variability in the blinded baseline data compared to the phase I/II? Thank you.
Emil Kakkis: Well, we have not personally looked at the data, so we're not aware. We don't look at the blinded data at the management level. The team would be doing that. We would expect that these reviewers, which are highly professional and consistent, would help reduce overall study variation. That was the importance of it, to control it, to absolutely make sure that a changing evaluator or variable in quality and experience at different locations might cause a problem. It was our attempt to control the endpoint. I can't tell you at this point that effect of that. I believe it is the kind of thing that will help assure consistency and give us the best chance for less noise in the program. Right now, we don't have any data to tell you that.
Emil Kakkis: Well, we have not personally looked at the data, so we're not aware. We don't look at the blinded data at the management level. The team would be doing that. We would expect that these reviewers, which are highly professional and consistent, would help reduce overall study variation. That was the importance of it, to control it, to absolutely make sure that a changing evaluator or variable in quality and experience at different locations might cause a problem. It was our attempt to control the endpoint. I can't tell you at this point that effect of that. I believe it is the kind of thing that will help assure consistency and give us the best chance for less noise in the program. Right now, we don't have any data to tell you that.
Maxwell Skor: Great. Thank you.
Maxwell Skor: Great. Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from Tazeen Ahmad with Bank of America. Please state your question.
Operator: Your next question comes from Tazeen Ahmad with Bank of America. Please state your question.
Tazeen Ahmad: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. On the financial front, how are you feeling about where you are with your cash balance and any potential need to do any kind of financing? Related to that, how should we be thinking about the investment needed for the upcoming launches that you have for your two programs for 401 and 111, assuming that both of them do get approved on time? Lastly, can you just remind us of what you think the market size for each of those two indications could be? Thanks.
Tazeen Ahmad: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. On the financial front, how are you feeling about where you are with your cash balance and any potential need to do any kind of financing? Related to that, how should we be thinking about the investment needed for the upcoming launches that you have for your two programs for 401 and 111, assuming that both of them do get approved on time? Lastly, can you just remind us of what you think the market size for each of those two indications could be? Thanks.
Emil Kakkis: Well, I'll let Howard go through the cash financing piece, but I'll touch on the market size first. For DTX401 GSD 1A, we think there's about 6,000 in the developed approachable world, which means around 1,500 to 2,000 in the US. For Sanfilippo syndrome, there's three to 5,000 globally, but inside the US, there's probably, we think of it as 20% or 25% of that. The addressable population will depend on what label says, but we are looking at patients that are generally going to be probably more likely under 10 than over 10. Those are roughly where we are on population currently. I'll let Howard talk about the financials.
Emil Kakkis: Well, I'll let Howard go through the cash financing piece, but I'll touch on the market size first. For DTX401 GSD 1A, we think there's about 6,000 in the developed approachable world, which means around 1,500 to 2,000 in the US. For Sanfilippo syndrome, there's three to 5,000 globally, but inside the US, there's probably, we think of it as 20% or 25% of that. The addressable population will depend on what label says, but we are looking at patients that are generally going to be probably more likely under 10 than over 10. Those are roughly where we are on population currently. I'll let Howard talk about the financials.
Howard Horn: Yeah, thanks, Tazeen. First on the investments, I guess I'll remind folks of the guidance we gave for combined R&D and SG&A. It was all based on this year or next year versus 2025. This year was flat to down low single digits. In 2027, it's a decrease of at least 15%. Both of those were inclusive of the launch investments we're planning to make for UX111 and DTX401. There is new money going in there. I think also important to note is that those programs fall into a sales structure or bag that we already carry. It's a highly leveraged situation, it's targeted investments. That's an answer to that part of the question. With regard to cash balance, we reported $436 million as of the end of the quarter.
Howard Horn: Yeah, thanks, Tazeen. First on the investments, I guess I'll remind folks of the guidance we gave for combined R&D and SG&A. It was all based on this year or next year versus 2025. This year was flat to down low single digits. In 2027, it's a decrease of at least 15%. Both of those were inclusive of the launch investments we're planning to make for UX111 and DTX401. There is new money going in there. I think also important to note is that those programs fall into a sales structure or bag that we already carry. It's a highly leveraged situation, it's targeted investments. That's an answer to that part of the question. With regard to cash balance, we reported $436 million as of the end of the quarter.
Howard Horn: As it relates to fundraising plans, our focus is on monetization of PRVs. Upon approval, our intent would be to monetize our DTX401 PRV and also the UX111 PRV.
Howard Horn: As it relates to fundraising plans, our focus is on monetization of PRVs. Upon approval, our intent would be to monetize our DTX401 PRV and also the UX111 PRV.
Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Ben Burnett with Wells Fargo. Please state your question.
Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Ben Burnett with Wells Fargo. Please state your question.
Ben Burnett: Hey, thank you. Congrats on the quarter and congrats on the good Crysvita number. I wanted to ask about setrusumab and just follow up. I'm just curious, have any of the regulatory agencies that you've spoken with, have they indicated a willingness to use or rely on bone mineral density as sort of a determinant of efficacy? Do they still also need to see efficacy be defined in some way in terms of fracture rate?
Ben Burnett: Hey, thank you. Congrats on the quarter and congrats on the good Crysvita number. I wanted to ask about setrusumab and just follow up. I'm just curious, have any of the regulatory agencies that you've spoken with, have they indicated a willingness to use or rely on bone mineral density as sort of a determinant of efficacy? Do they still also need to see efficacy be defined in some way in terms of fracture rate?
Emil Kakkis: Thanks, Ben. That's a good question. At this point, there hasn't been the kind of proof for BMD's predictive value for fractures as there has been for osteoporosis, where it has been accepted. We're still in the point of proving it. There is a question of whether the underlying bone disease creates that connection. We have evaluated, we believe it does. At this point, we're looking at fracture endpoints of some form as the primary way to get approval and not using BMD. I think we all agree BMD demonstrates the profound activity of this drug in these patients. With a whole Z-score gain in a year is a profound improvement in their bone. It gives us confidence, and I think the regulators are also confident that the drug is doing something meaningful.
Emil Kakkis: Thanks, Ben. That's a good question. At this point, there hasn't been the kind of proof for BMD's predictive value for fractures as there has been for osteoporosis, where it has been accepted. We're still in the point of proving it. There is a question of whether the underlying bone disease creates that connection. We have evaluated, we believe it does. At this point, we're looking at fracture endpoints of some form as the primary way to get approval and not using BMD. I think we all agree BMD demonstrates the profound activity of this drug in these patients. With a whole Z-score gain in a year is a profound improvement in their bone. It gives us confidence, and I think the regulators are also confident that the drug is doing something meaningful.
Emil Kakkis: Right now there's, I would say, acceptance of BMD as a primary for approval has not yet been enabled.
Emil Kakkis: Right now there's, I would say, acceptance of BMD as a primary for approval has not yet been enabled.
Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Salveen Richter with Goldman Sachs. Please state your question.
Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Salveen Richter with Goldman Sachs. Please state your question.
[Analyst] (Goldman Sachs): Hi, this is Lydia on for Salveen. Thanks so much for taking our question, and congrats on the progress. Just as a follow-up to a previous question on Angelman related to the lower extremity weakness, has the FDA provided any sort of threshold on what would be acceptable on the safety front, particularly as it pertains to that lower extremity weakness? Thanks so much.
[Analyst] (Goldman Sachs): Hi, this is Lydia on for Salveen. Thanks so much for taking our question, and congrats on the progress. Just as a follow-up to a previous question on Angelman related to the lower extremity weakness, has the FDA provided any sort of threshold on what would be acceptable on the safety front, particularly as it pertains to that lower extremity weakness? Thanks so much.
Emil Kakkis: No thresholds provided or any limit. In fact, I believe in our final conversation, I'm not sure Eric if you want to say something to this. We really have not had much concern, at least end of phase II was little at all. Eric, what's your take on the FDA? I don't think we've had any limits provided to us for how much maximum could be occurred or something.
Emil Kakkis: No thresholds provided or any limit. In fact, I believe in our final conversation, I'm not sure Eric if you want to say something to this. We really have not had much concern, at least end of phase II was little at all. Eric, what's your take on the FDA? I don't think we've had any limits provided to us for how much maximum could be occurred or something.
Eric Crombez: Yeah, no, exactly. During our end of phase II meeting, there was no discussion on lower extremity weakness and, as I said, we maintain a consistent safety profile.
Eric Crombez: Yeah, no, exactly. During our end of phase II meeting, there was no discussion on lower extremity weakness and, as I said, we maintain a consistent safety profile.
Emil Kakkis: Yeah. I think our sense from them is that we've gotten past the issue with them, and I think we're in good shape. We've not had discussions further.
Emil Kakkis: Yeah. I think our sense from them is that we've gotten past the issue with them, and I think we're in good shape. We've not had discussions further.
Operator: Your next question comes from Luca Issi with RBC Capital Markets. Please state your question.
Operator: Your next question comes from Luca Issi with RBC Capital Markets. Please state your question.
[Analyst] (TD Cowen): Hi, team. This is Shelby on for Luca. Maybe on GSD1a, with the PDUFA just weeks away, could you provide any color on your level of confidence headed into that decision? Talk about how the review has progressed. I guess specifically whether there's been any information requests from the FDA, and are there any additional manufacturing sections that you need to clear before the decision date? Any color there much appreciated. Thanks.
[Analyst] (TD Cowen): Hi, team. This is Shelby on for Luca. Maybe on GSD1a, with the PDUFA just weeks away, could you provide any color on your level of confidence headed into that decision? Talk about how the review has progressed. I guess specifically whether there's been any information requests from the FDA, and are there any additional manufacturing sections that you need to clear before the decision date? Any color there much appreciated. Thanks.
Emil Kakkis: Sure. Well, yes, we have obtained information requests during the review for both CMC and clinical, and we've been answering them. We can't provide an answer yet during progress, things are underway like that. We feel the review has proceeded normally, and we feel like we're in good shape. However, we can't predict to you what the FDA's action are. They will have to do it. At this point, everything we have been doing is answer their questions and move in a normal fashion forward.
Emil Kakkis: Sure. Well, yes, we have obtained information requests during the review for both CMC and clinical, and we've been answering them. We can't provide an answer yet during progress, things are underway like that. We feel the review has proceeded normally, and we feel like we're in good shape. However, we can't predict to you what the FDA's action are. They will have to do it. At this point, everything we have been doing is answer their questions and move in a normal fashion forward.
Operator: Your next question comes from Laura Chico with Wedbush. Please state your question.
Operator: Your next question comes from Laura Chico with Wedbush. Please state your question.
Thomas Shin: Hi, good afternoon, everyone. This is Thomas Shin on for Laura. One question from us. Of the 300, 400 Sanfilippo patients that are identified in the US, how many are likely within the age range that you expect the label to support and are clinically appropriate to treat? Also, what's the incidence rate for new patients being captured on an annual basis? Thank you.
Thomas Shin: Hi, good afternoon, everyone. This is Thomas Shin on for Laura. One question from us. Of the 300, 400 Sanfilippo patients that are identified in the US, how many are likely within the age range that you expect the label to support and are clinically appropriate to treat? Also, what's the incidence rate for new patients being captured on an annual basis? Thank you.
Emil Kakkis: Are you talking for Sanfilippo syndrome?
Emil Kakkis: Are you talking for Sanfilippo syndrome?
Thomas Shin: Yes, that's right. Sanfilippo.
Thomas Shin: Yes, that's right. Sanfilippo.
Emil Kakkis: I thought you were mentioning Sanfilippo. We haven't put out precise numbers yet on the prevalence, exact prevalence or diagnosed prevalence of patients. We know that the incident rate appears to be about 1 in 100,000 or about 30 to 40 new kids diagnosed per year. If you imagine that they're living until their teenage years, you can get a sense for what the number or prevalent number is like, right? Does that make sense? We have treated patients up to, I think, 8 or 9 years old in the trial. We don't know what age range will be in the labeling, but we've shown even in the older patients that we stabilize function with regard to ambulation, feeding, communication at the state they're in when we are able to treat them.
Emil Kakkis: I thought you were mentioning Sanfilippo. We haven't put out precise numbers yet on the prevalence, exact prevalence or diagnosed prevalence of patients. We know that the incident rate appears to be about 1 in 100,000 or about 30 to 40 new kids diagnosed per year. If you imagine that they're living until their teenage years, you can get a sense for what the number or prevalent number is like, right? Does that make sense? We have treated patients up to, I think, 8 or 9 years old in the trial. We don't know what age range will be in the labeling, but we've shown even in the older patients that we stabilize function with regard to ambulation, feeding, communication at the state they're in when we are able to treat them.
Emil Kakkis: We think there's a justification for treating patients that age, we don't know what the label will be. There is a meaningful population of patients in that age range out there, and we have a sense it's a lot of urgency in wanting to get treated. Hopefully, that gives you at least a feel for it.
Emil Kakkis: We think there's a justification for treating patients that age, we don't know what the label will be. There is a meaningful population of patients in that age range out there, and we have a sense it's a lot of urgency in wanting to get treated. Hopefully, that gives you at least a feel for it.
Thomas Shin: Understood. Thank you so much for taking the question.
Thomas Shin: Understood. Thank you so much for taking the question.
Operator: Your next question comes from Joseph Schwartz with Leerink Partners. Please state your question.
Operator: Your next question comes from Joseph Schwartz with Leerink Partners. Please state your question.
Joseph Schwartz: Thanks. I have a two-part question on Angelman. In phase I/II, were there particular Bayley cognition items or skill clusters that appeared most sensitive to apazequenersen, and are those the same skills you expect to drive separation in ASPIRE? Then relatedly, because ASPIRE's primary endpoint removes caregiver input and requires the child to demonstrate skills during a single testing session, how should we think about the risk that meaningful home-based gains might not be fully captured by the Bayley cognition assessment?
Joseph Schwartz: Thanks. I have a two-part question on Angelman. In phase I/II, were there particular Bayley cognition items or skill clusters that appeared most sensitive to apazequenersen, and are those the same skills you expect to drive separation in ASPIRE? Then relatedly, because ASPIRE's primary endpoint removes caregiver input and requires the child to demonstrate skills during a single testing session, how should we think about the risk that meaningful home-based gains might not be fully captured by the Bayley cognition assessment?
Emil Kakkis: Good. Let's start with the last one. The Bayley cognition has a relatively small number of caregiver assessments, and our endpoint team's assessment is that it shouldn't have a material effect on the raw scores at this point. We're not concerned about that.
Emil Kakkis: Good. Let's start with the last one. The Bayley cognition has a relatively small number of caregiver assessments, and our endpoint team's assessment is that it shouldn't have a material effect on the raw scores at this point. We're not concerned about that.