Q2 2026 Kingsway Corp Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Good day and welcome to the KINGSWAY second quarter 2026 earnings call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation.
Operator: Good day, and welcome to the Kingsway second quarter 2026 earnings call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. Please note this conference is being recorded. With me on the call are J.T. Fitzgerald, Chief Executive Officer, and Kent Hansen, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that today's conference may contain forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements include statements regarding the future, including expected revenue, operating margins, expenses, and future business outlook. Actual results or trends could differ materially from those contemplated by those forward-looking statements.
Operator: Good day, and Welcome to the Kingsway Q2 2026 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. Please note this conference is being recorded. With me on the call are J.T. Fitzgerald, Chief Executive Officer, and Kent Hansen, Chief Financial Officer.
Speaker #1: Please note this conference is being recorded. With me on the call are JT Fitzgerald, Chief Executive Officer, and Kent Hansen, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that today's conference may contain forward-looking statements.
Operator: Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that today's conference may contain forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements include statements regarding the future, including expected revenue, operating margins, expenses, and future business outlook. Actual results or trends could differ materially from those contemplated by those forward-looking statements.
Speaker #1: Forward-looking statements include statements regarding the future, including expected revenue, operating margins, expenses, and future business outlook. Actual results are trends could differ materially from those contemplated by those forward-looking statements.
Speaker #1: For discussion of such risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ from those expressed or implied in the forward-looking statements, please see the risk factors detailed in the company's annual report on the forms 10-K and the subsequent forms 10-Q and forms 8-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Operator: For a discussion of such risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ from those expressed or implied in the forward-looking statements, please see the risk factors detailed in the company's annual report on the Forms 10-K, the subsequent Forms 10-Q, and Forms 8-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Please note that today's call may include the use of non-GAAP metrics that management utilizes to analyze the company's performance. A reconciliation of such non-GAAP metrics to the most comparable GAAP measures is available on the most recent press release, as well as in the company's periodic filings with the SEC. Now I would like to hand the call over to J.T. Fitzgerald, CEO of Kingsway. J.T., please proceed.
Operator: For a discussion of such risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ from those expressed or implied in the forward-looking statements, please see the risk factors detailed in the company's annual report on the Forms 10-K, the subsequent Forms 10-Q, and Forms 8-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Speaker #1: Please note that today's call may include the use of non-GAAP metrics that management utilizes to analyze the company's performance. A reconciliation of such non-GAAP metrics to the most comparable GAAP measures is available on the most recent press release as well as in the company's periodic filings with the SEC.
Operator: Please note that today's call may include the use of non-GAAP metrics that management utilizes to analyze the company's performance. A reconciliation of such non-GAAP metrics to the most comparable GAAP measures is available on the most recent press release, as well as in the company's periodic filings with the SEC. Now I would like to hand the call over to J.T. Fitzgerald, CEO of Kingsway. J.T., please proceed.
Speaker #1: Now I'd like to hand the call over to JT Fitzgerald, CEO of KINGSWAY. JT, please proceed.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Matthew. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the KINGSWAY earnings call for the second quarter of 2026. To our knowledge, KINGSWAY is the only publicly traded U.S.
John T. Fitzgerald: Thank you, Matthew. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the Kingsway earnings call for Q2 2026. To our knowledge, Kingsway is the only publicly traded US company employing the search fund model to acquire and build great businesses. We own and operate a diversified collection of high-quality services companies that are asset light, profitable, growing, and that generate recurring revenue. Our goal is to compound long-term shareholder value on a per-share basis, and we believe our business can scale due to our decentralized management model and our talented team of operator CEOs. We also continue to benefit from significant tax assets that enhance our returns. In short, Kingsway is uniquely positioned to capitalize on the search fund model at scale within a tax efficient public company framework. At Kingsway's Investor Day in May, we talked about the encouraging commercial momentum we are seeing across our business.
J.T. Fitzgerald: Thank you, Matthew. Good afternoon, everyone, and Welcome to the Kingsway Earnings Call for Q2 2026. To our knowledge, Kingsway is the only publicly traded US company employing the search fund model to acquire and build great businesses. We own and operate a diversified collection of high-quality services companies that are asset light, profitable, growing, and that generate recurring revenue.
Speaker #2: company employing the search fund model to acquire and build great businesses. We own and operate a diversified collection of high-quality services companies, that are asset-light, profitable, growing, and that generate recurring revenue.
Speaker #2: Our goal is to compound long-term shareholder value on a per-share basis and we believe our business can scale due to our decentralized management model, and our talented team of operators, CEOs.
J.T. Fitzgerald: Our goal is to compound long-term shareholder value on a per-share basis, and we believe our business can scale due to our decentralized management model and our talented team of operator CEOs.
Speaker #2: We also continue to benefit from significant tax assets that enhance our returns. In short, KINGSWAY is uniquely positioned to capitalize on the search fund model at scale within a tax-efficient, public company framework.
J.T. Fitzgerald: We also continue to benefit from significant tax assets that enhance our returns. In short, Kingsway is uniquely positioned to capitalize on the search fund model at scale within a tax efficient public company framework. At Kingsway's Investor Day in May, we talked about the encouraging commercial momentum we are seeing across our business.
Speaker #2: At KINGSWAY's investor day in May, we talked about the encouraging commercial momentum we are seeing across our business. It is gratifying today to report an exceptional second quarter that came in significantly ahead of internal expectations.
John T. Fitzgerald: It is gratifying today to report an exceptional Q2 that came in significantly ahead of internal expectations and that represented the strongest quarter of operating performance since my tenure as Kingsway CEO. Our Kingsway Search Xcelerator segment, or KSX, delivered a quarterly record, $4.3 million in adjusted EBITDA. Performance was broad-based across the KSX portfolio, with Ravix and SPI producing particularly good results, supported by customer wins and excellent client retention. KSX adjusted EBITDA has more than tripled over the last eight quarters as we scale our public search fund strategy. Our extended warranty business also had a strong quarter, with robust performance at both IWS and Penn PWI.
J.T. Fitzgerald: It is gratifying today to report an exceptional Q2 that came in significantly ahead of internal expectations and that represented the strongest quarter of operating performance since my tenure as Kingsway CEO. Our Kingsway Search Xcelerator segment, or KSX, delivered a quarterly record, $4.3 million in adjusted EBITDA.
Speaker #2: And that represented the strongest quarter of operating performance since my tenure as CEO. Our KINGSWAY search accelerator segment, or KSX, delivered a quarterly record 4.3 million in adjusted EBITDA.
Speaker #2: Performance was broad-based across the KSX portfolio, with RAVEX and SPI producing particularly good results, supported by customer wins and excellent client retention. KSX adjusted EBITDA has more than tripled over the last eight quarters as we scale our public search fund strategy.
J.T. Fitzgerald: Performance was broad-based across the KSX portfolio, with Ravix and SPI producing particularly good results, supported by customer wins and excellent client retention. KSX adjusted EBITDA has more than tripled over the last eight quarters as we scale our public search fund strategy. Our extended warranty business also had a strong quarter, with robust performance at both IWS Acquisition Corporation and Penn PWI.
Speaker #2: Our extended warranty business also had a strong quarter with robust performance at both IWS and Penn PWI. IWS is a wonderful business and continued its record of solid execution, growth, and cash flow generation in the second quarter.
Speaker #2: Penn PWI, which has led by KSX-style operator CEO Robbie Humble, has made profitable growth at key point of emphasis in 2026. This quarter showed Penn PWI is making tangible progress against this objective as its financial results came in nicely ahead of internal expectations.
John T. Fitzgerald: IWS is a wonderful business and continued its record of solid execution, growth, and cash flow generation in Q2. Penn PWI, which is led by KSX-style Operator CEO Robbie Humble, has made profitable growth a key point of emphasis in 2026. This quarter showed Penn PWI is making tangible progress against this objective as its financial results came in nicely ahead of internal expectations. Adjusted EBITDA for the extended warranty segment was $1.1 million, and lender defined modified cash adjusted EBITDA, which is used as the basis for financial covenant calculations under the company's credit agreements, was $2.9 million in the quarter. As a management team, we evaluate the company's performance by looking at portfolio EBITDA, which is adjusted EBITDA in our KSX segment, plus modified cash adjusted EBITDA in our extended warranty segment. Portfolio EBITDA of $7.2 million in the quarter is a new quarterly record. We are highly encouraged by this result.
J.T. Fitzgerald: IWS is a wonderful business and continued its record of solid execution, growth, and cash flow generation in Q2. Penn PWI, which is led by KSX-style Operator CEO Robbie Humble, has made profitable growth a key point of emphasis in 2026. This quarter showed Penn PWI is making tangible progress against this objective as its financial results came in nicely ahead of internal expectations.
Speaker #2: Adjusted EBITDA for the extended warranty segment was 1.1 million, and lender-defined modified cash adjusted EBITDA which is used as the basis for financial covenant calculations under the company's credit agreements, was 2.9 million.
J.T. Fitzgerald: Adjusted EBITDA for the extended warranty segment was $1.1 million, and lender defined modified cash adjusted EBITDA, which is used as the basis for financial covenant calculations under the company's credit agreements, was $2.9 million in the quarter. As a management team, we evaluate the company's performance by looking at portfolio EBITDA, which is adjusted EBITDA in our KSX segment, plus modified cash adjusted EBITDA in our extended warranty segment. Portfolio EBITDA of $7.2 million in the quarter is a new quarterly record. We are highly encouraged by this result.
Speaker #2: In the quarter. As a management team, we evaluate the company's performance by looking at portfolio EBITDA which is adjusted EBITDA in our KSX segment plus modified cash adjusted EBITDA in our extended warranty segment.
Speaker #2: Portfolio EBITDA of 7.2 million in the quarter is a new quarterly record. We are highly encouraged by this result. But even in a great quarter, it feels like there is still so much more to achieve.
John T. Fitzgerald: Even in a great quarter, it feels like there is still so much more to achieve. Roundhouse and Kingsway Skilled Trades typically benefit from seasonality in Q2 relative to Q1. In 2026, however, both businesses reported flat quarter-over-quarter adjusted EBITDA from Q1 to Q2. Roundhouse's Q2 financial performance was impacted predominantly by timing issues. Just one example is an electric motor originally expected to ship by the end of June, ended up shipping on 1 July, deferring several hundred thousand dollars of revenue from Q2 to Q3. Roundhouse continues to grow, to win new customers, to make strategic and operational progress, and we remain confident regarding where this business is headed in the quarters to come.
J.T. Fitzgerald: Even in a great quarter, it feels like there is still so much more to achieve. Roundhouse and Kingsway Skilled Trades typically benefit from seasonality in Q2 relative to Q1. In 2026, however, both businesses reported flat quarter-over-quarter adjusted EBITDA from Q1 to Q2. Roundhouse's Q2 financial performance was impacted predominantly by timing issues. Just one example is an electric motor originally expected to ship by the end of June, ended up shipping on 1 July, deferring several hundred thousand dollars of revenue from Q2 to Q3. Roundhouse continues to grow, to win new customers, to make strategic and operational progress, and we remain confident regarding where this business is headed in the quarters to come.
Speaker #2: Roundhouse and KINGSWAY Skilled Trades typically benefit from seasonality in the second quarter relative to the first. In 2026, however, both businesses reported flat quarter-over-quarter adjusted EBITDA from Q1 to Q2.
Speaker #2: Roundhouse's second quarter financial performance was impacted predominantly by timing issues. One example is an electric motor originally expected to ship by the end of June ended up shipping on July 1st.
Speaker #2: Deferring several hundred thousand dollars of revenue from Q2 to Q3. Roundhouse continues to grow to win new customers and to make strategic and operational progress, and we remain confident regarding where this business is headed in the quarters to come.
Speaker #2: At KINGSWAY Skilled Trades, Bud's Plumbing had a great quarter and AAA showed solid improvement, but Southside continued to face the headwind and distraction of a legacy construction project that resulted in a low six-figure write-down in Q2.
John T. Fitzgerald: At Kingsway Skilled Trades, Bud's Plumbing had a great quarter, and AAA showed solid improvement, but Southside continued to face the headwind and distraction of a legacy construction project that resulted in a low six figure write-down in Q2. We anticipate this project will be wrapped up in the coming weeks. Putting this project in the rearview mirror should serve as a nice financial tailwind to Kingsway Skilled Trades in Q3 and beyond. As previously shared, 2026 is a transition year financially for DDI. Following our purchase of the business, DDI invested heavily in its operations, including building out a second control center and improving detection rates, response times, and service availability. This year, DDI has invested in its sales motion, resulting in a customer pipeline that is now at a record level.
J.T. Fitzgerald: At Kingsway Skilled Trades, Bud's Plumbing had a great quarter, and AAA showed solid improvement, but Southside continued to face the headwind and distraction of a legacy construction project that resulted in a low six figure write-down in Q2. We anticipate this project will be wrapped up in the coming weeks. Putting this project in the rearview mirror should serve as a nice financial tailwind to Kingsway Skilled Trades in Q3 and beyond. As previously shared, 2026 is a transition year financially for DDI. Following our purchase of the business, DDI invested heavily in its operations, including building out a second control center and improving detection rates, response times, and service availability. This year, DDI has invested in its sales motion, resulting in a customer pipeline that is now at a record level.
Speaker #2: We anticipate this project will be wrapped up in the coming weeks. Putting this project in the rearview mirror should serve as a nice financial tailwind to KINGSWAY Skilled Trades in Q3 and beyond.
Speaker #2: As previously shared, 2026 is a transition year financially for DDI. Following our purchase of the business, DDI invested heavily in its operations, including building out a second control center and improving detection rates, response times, and service availability.
Speaker #2: This year, DDI has invested in its sales motion, resulting in a customer pipeline that is now at a record level. That said, there is a natural sales cycle in the business with sales expense hitting the P&L right away, while customer wins filter in over time.
John T. Fitzgerald: That said, there is a natural sales cycle in the business, with sales expense hitting the P&L right away while customer wins filter in over time. We are optimistic DDI is taking the right steps and is well-placed to accelerate growth in the next several quarters. Finally, SNS has had a challenging operating performance since Kingsway's acquisition of the business, as the nurse staffing industry has endured a difficult post-COVID down cycle. After years spent wrestling with this industry dynamic, operator CEO Charles Mokuau stepped away from SNS at the end of May by mutual agreement with Kingsway. We thank Charles for all his efforts on behalf of Kingsway and wish him the very best in the next chapter of his career. Paul Vidal, one of Kingsway's Operators-in-Residence, agreed to lead SNS, and we have been pleased by his energy, fresh ideas, and operating discipline.
J.T. Fitzgerald: That said, there is a natural sales cycle in the business, with sales expense hitting the P&L right away while customer wins filter in over time. We are optimistic DDI is taking the right steps and is well-placed to accelerate growth in the next several quarters. Finally, SNS has had a challenging operating performance since Kingsway's acquisition of the business, as the nurse staffing industry has endured a difficult post-COVID down cycle. After years spent wrestling with this industry dynamic, operator CEO Charles Mokuau stepped away from SNS at the end of May by mutual agreement with Kingsway. We thank Charles for all his efforts on behalf of Kingsway and wish him the very best in the next chapter of his career. Paul Vidal, one of Kingsway's Operators-in-Residence, agreed to lead SNS, and we have been pleased by his energy, fresh ideas, and operating discipline.
Speaker #2: We are optimistic DDI is taking the right steps and is well placed to accelerate growth in the next several quarters. Finally, SNS has had a challenging operating performance since Kingsway’s acquisition of the business, as the nurse staffing industry has endured a difficult post-COVID down cycle.
Speaker #2: After years spent wrestling with this industry dynamic, operator CEO Charles Mokoalu stepped away from SNS at the end of May by mutual agreement with KINGSWAY.
Speaker #2: We thank Charles for all his efforts on behalf of KINGSWAY and wish him the very best in the next chapter of his career. Paul Vidal, one of KINGSWAY's operators in residence, agreed to lead SNS, and we have been pleased by his energy, fresh ideas, and operating discipline.
Speaker #2: It also appears the nurse staffing industry may have begun to stabilize in recent months and perhaps even to grow again. We are cautiously optimistic that under Paul's leadership and with an improving industry backdrop, SNS may finally be turning the corner.
John T. Fitzgerald: It also appears the nurse staffing industry may have begun to stabilize in recent months and perhaps even to grow again. We are cautiously optimistic that under Paul's leadership, and with an improving industry backdrop, SNS may finally be turning the corner. What I think these examples show is that Kingsway is doing well, but there is so much more to accomplish. We are not yet firing on all cylinders. There are many opportunities to accelerate growth and to further improve profitability across our portfolio. Kingsway is only at the beginning of our journey. Turning now from financial performance to strategy, the Q2 was eventful for Kingsway.
J.T. Fitzgerald: It also appears the nurse staffing industry may have begun to stabilize in recent months and perhaps even to grow again. We are cautiously optimistic that under Paul's leadership, and with an improving industry backdrop, SNS may finally be turning the corner. What I think these examples show is that Kingsway is doing well, but there is so much more to accomplish. We are not yet firing on all cylinders. There are many opportunities to accelerate growth and to further improve profitability across our portfolio. Kingsway is only at the beginning of our journey. Turning now from financial performance to strategy, the Q2 was eventful for Kingsway.
Speaker #2: What I think these examples show is that Kingsway is doing well, but there is so much more to accomplish. We are not yet firing on all cylinders.
Speaker #2: There are many opportunities to accelerate growth and to further improve profitability across our portfolio. KINGSWAY is only at the beginning of our journey. Turning now from financial performance to strategy, the second quarter was eventful for KINGSWAY.
Speaker #2: On May 11, we announced the sale of Trinity Warranty Solutions for $8 million or $9.2 times 2025 adjusted EBITDA, in a management buyout transaction.
John T. Fitzgerald: On 11 May, we announced the sale of Trinity Warranty Solutions for $8 million, or 9.2x 2025 adjusted EBITDA, in a management buyout transaction, including $5 million paid up front and $3 million paid out over time, subject to discounts for early prepayment. That capital is now available to redeploy in our KSX segment. CEO of Trinity, Peter DeKayos, has been a wonderful partner to Kingsway for many years, and we wish Peter and his entire team every success in the future. On 15 May, Kingsway announced the appointment of Colter Hanson as President of Kingsway Skilled Trades. Colter has hit the ground running while demonstrating his commitment to operational excellence and service leadership. Kingsway Skilled Trades is in good hands with Colter at the helm. On 18 May, Kingsway hosted its annual Investor Day at the New York Stock Exchange.
J.T. Fitzgerald: On 11 May, we announced the sale of Trinity Warranty Solutions for $8 million, or 9.2x 2025 adjusted EBITDA, in a management buyout transaction, including $5 million paid up front and $3 million paid out over time, subject to discounts for early prepayment. That capital is now available to redeploy in our KSX segment. CEO of Trinity, Peter DeKayos, has been a wonderful partner to Kingsway for many years, and we wish Peter and his entire team every success in the future. On 15 May, Kingsway announced the appointment of Colter Hanson as President of Kingsway Skilled Trades. Colter has hit the ground running while demonstrating his commitment to operational excellence and service leadership. Kingsway Skilled Trades is in good hands with Colter at the helm. On 18 May, Kingsway hosted its annual Investor Day at the New York Stock Exchange.
Speaker #2: Including $5 million paid upfront and $3 million paid out over time, subject to discounts for early prepayment. That capital is now available to redeploy in our KSX segment.
Speaker #2: CEO of Trinity, Peter DeCaos, has been a wonderful partner to KINGSWAY for many years, and we wish Peter and his entire team every success in the future.
Speaker #2: On May 15, KINGSWAY announced the appointment of Coulter Hansen as president of KINGSWAY Skilled Trades. Coulter has hit the ground running, demonstrating his commitment to operational excellence and service leadership.
Speaker #2: KINGSWAY Skilled Trades is in good hands with Coulter at the helm. On May 18, KINGSWAY hosted its annual investor day at the New York Stock Exchange.
Speaker #2: We were thrilled to be joined by operator CEOs Davide Zanchi from Image Solutions and Miles Mammon from Roundhouse. As well as by KSX advisory board member Tyler Gordy for a fireside more about KINGSWAY to watch the replay of our investor day, which is posted on our website.
John T. Fitzgerald: We were thrilled to be joined by operator CEOs Davide Zanchi from Image Solutions and Miles Mamon from Roundhouse, as well as by KSX advisory board member Tyler Gordy for a fireside chat. I encourage anyone seeking to learn more about Kingsway to watch the replay of our Investor Day, which is posted on our website. On 19 May, after receiving 99.7% support from shareholders, Kingsway officially changed its name to Kingsway Corporation and its stock ticker to KWY. Just a few days ago, on 3 August, we were pleased to welcome Fletcher Vynne as our newest Operator-in-Residence. Fletch was captain of the varsity baseball team in college before serving 8 years in the US Navy as an F/A-18 naval aviator, including planning and leading more than 40 combat missions over Iraq and Syria, and earning 2 air medals.
J.T. Fitzgerald: We were thrilled to be joined by operator CEOs Davide Zanchi from Image Solutions and Miles Mamon from Roundhouse, as well as by KSX advisory board member Tyler Gordy for a fireside chat. I encourage anyone seeking to learn more about Kingsway to watch the replay of our Investor Day, which is posted on our website. On 19 May, after receiving 99.7% support from shareholders, Kingsway officially changed its name to Kingsway Corporation and its stock ticker to KWY. Just a few days ago, on 3 August, we were pleased to welcome Fletcher Vynne as our newest Operator-in-Residence. Fletch was captain of the varsity baseball team in college before serving 8 years in the US Navy as an F/A-18 naval aviator, including planning and leading more than 40 combat missions over Iraq and Syria, and earning 2 air medals.
Speaker #2: On May 19, after receiving 99.7% support for share from shareholders, KINGSWAY officially changed its name to KINGSWAY Corporation and its stock ticker to KWY.
Speaker #2: Just a few days ago, on August 3, we were pleased to welcome Fletcher Vine as our newest operator in residence. Fletch was captain of the varsity baseball team in college, before serving eight years in the US Navy as an F-18 naval aviator, including planning and leading more than 40 combat missions over Iraq and Syria, and earning two air medals.
Speaker #2: He then transitioned to the private sector by way of Haas School of Business at UC Berkeley, where he graduated with honors. After earning his MBA, Fletch was a consultant at Boston Consulting Group before joining Risk Mitigation Consulting, or RMC.
John T. Fitzgerald: He then transitioned to the private sector by way of Haas School of Business at UC Berkeley, where he graduated with honors. After earning his MBA, Fletch was a consultant at Boston Consulting Group before joining Risk Mitigation Consulting, or RMC, a cybersecurity and critical infrastructure services firm, as a senior executive. RMC was a search-backed firm that had a successful exit earlier this year, and Kingsway is thrilled to support Fletch as he seeks an acquisition of an asset-light, tech-enabled services business with recurring revenue. Welcome to the team, Fletch. Finally, earlier today, we announced that Kingsway's wholly owned subsidiary, Image Solutions, closed the acquisition of Romeo Computer Company, or RCC, effective 1 August. RCC is a leading provider of managed IT and cybersecurity solutions based in the state of Michigan, with a retiring founder who is looking for a long-term home for his business.
J.T. Fitzgerald: He then transitioned to the private sector by way of Haas School of Business at UC Berkeley, where he graduated with honors. After earning his MBA, Fletch was a consultant at Boston Consulting Group before joining Risk Mitigation Consulting, or RMC, a cybersecurity and critical infrastructure services firm, as a senior executive. RMC was a search-backed firm that had a successful exit earlier this year, and Kingsway is thrilled to support Fletch as he seeks an acquisition of an asset-light, tech-enabled services business with recurring revenue. Welcome to the team, Fletch. Finally, earlier today, we announced that Kingsway's wholly owned subsidiary, Image Solutions, closed the acquisition of Romeo Computer Company, or RCC, effective 1 August. RCC is a leading provider of managed IT and cybersecurity solutions based in the state of Michigan, with a retiring founder who is looking for a long-term home for his business.
Speaker #2: A cybersecurity and critical infrastructure services firm, as a senior executive. RMC was a search-backed firm that had a successful exit earlier this year, and KINGSWAY is thrilled to support Fletch as he seeks an acquisition of an asset-light, tech-enabled services business with recurring revenue.
Speaker #2: Welcome to the team, Fletch. And finally, earlier today, we announced that KINGSWAY's wholly-owned subsidiary, Image Solutions, closed the acquisition of Romeo Computer Company, or RCC, effective August 1.
Speaker #2: RCC is a leading provider of managed IT and cybersecurity solutions based in the state of Michigan, with a retiring founder who is looking for a long-term home for his business.
Speaker #2: The acquisition expands Image Solutions geographic footprint into Michigan and the upper Midwest, and is a strong cultural fit given RCC's service-first approach and long-tenured customer relationships.
John T. Fitzgerald: The acquisition expands Image Solutions' geographic footprint into Michigan and the Upper Midwest and is a strong cultural fit given RCC's service-first approach and long-tenured customer relationships. RCC generated approximately $2.5 million of unaudited pro forma revenue and approximately $0.5 million of unaudited pro forma adjusted EBITDA in the 12 months ended 30 April 2026. The purchase price was $2.4 million. RCC has achieved double-digit annual organic top-line growth in recent years. We are thrilled to support RCC's future growth ambitions and welcome RCC to the Kingsway family. Before turning the call over to Kent for a financial review, I would like to highlight that LTM portfolio EBITDA remains stable relative to last quarter at $22 to 23 million, even after subtracting a net $400,000 as a result of M&A activity related to RCC and Trinity.
J.T. Fitzgerald: The acquisition expands Image Solutions' geographic footprint into Michigan and the Upper Midwest and is a strong cultural fit given RCC's service-first approach and long-tenured customer relationships. RCC generated approximately $2.5 million of unaudited pro forma revenue and approximately $0.5 million of unaudited pro forma adjusted EBITDA in the 12 months ended 30 April 2026. The purchase price was $2.4 million. RCC has achieved double-digit annual organic top-line growth in recent years. We are thrilled to support RCC's future growth ambitions and welcome RCC to the Kingsway family. Before turning the call over to Kent for a financial review, I would like to highlight that LTM portfolio EBITDA remains stable relative to last quarter at $22 to 23 million, even after subtracting a net $400,000 as a result of M&A activity related to RCC and Trinity.
Speaker #2: RCC generated approximately $2.5 million of unaudited pro forma revenue and approximately $0.5 million of unaudited pro forma adjusted EBITDA, and a 12-month ended April 30, 2026.
Speaker #2: Purchase price was $2.4 million. RCC has achieved double-digit annual organic top-line growth in recent years, and we are thrilled to support RCC's future growth ambitions and welcome RCC to the KINGSWAY family.
Speaker #2: Before turning the call over to Kent for a financial review, I would like to highlight that LTM Portfolio EBITDA remains stable relative to last quarter at $22 to $23 million, even after subtracting a net $400,000 subtracting a net $400,000 as a result of M&A activity related to RCC and Trinity.
Speaker #2: With easier year-over-year comparisons in the third and fourth quarters of 2026, I am confident in the positive trajectory of this metric in the back half of the year.
John T. Fitzgerald: With easier year-over-year comparisons in Q3 and Q4 of 2026, I am confident in the positive trajectory of this metric in the back half of the year. Kingsway is also today reaffirming the company's targets of 3 to 5 acquisitions in 2026 and for double-digit organic growth at both KSX and extended warranty. As demonstrated by today's results, we are well on our way. With that, I'll turn the call over to Kent to walk through the financials in more detail.
J.T. Fitzgerald: With easier year-over-year comparisons in Q3 and Q4 of 2026, I am confident in the positive trajectory of this metric in the back half of the year. Kingsway is also today reaffirming the company's targets of 3 to 5 acquisitions in 2026 and for double-digit organic growth at both KSX and extended warranty. As demonstrated by today's results, we are well on our way. With that, I'll turn the call over to Kent to walk through the financials in more detail.
Speaker #2: KINGSWAY is also today reaffirming the company's targets of 3 to 5 acquisitions in 2026, and for double-digit organic growth at both KSX and extended warranty.
Speaker #2: As demonstrated by today's results, we are well on our way. With that, I'll turn the call over to Kent to walk through the financials in more detail.
Speaker #1: Thanks, JT, and good afternoon, everyone. For the second quarter of 2026, consolidated revenue increased $27.6% to $39.4 million, compared with $30.9 million in the second quarter of 2025.
Kent Hansen: Thanks, J.T., and good afternoon, everyone. For Q2 2026, consolidated revenue increased 27.6% to $39.4 million, compared with $30.9 million in Q2 2025. Within that total, KSX revenue increased 68.3% to $22.3 million, compared with $13.3 million in the prior year quarter. Extended warranty revenue decreased 3.1% to $17.1 million, compared with $17.6 million a year ago. However, on a pro forma basis for the sale of Trinity, extended warranty revenue increased 6.5% to $16.1 million from $15.1 million a year ago. Pro forma extended warranty cash sales increased 6.9%. Consolidated net income for the quarter was $200,000, compared with a net loss of $3.2 million in Q2 2025. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $5.2 million, compared with $1.7 million in the prior year quarter.
Kent Hansen: Thanks, J.T., and good afternoon, everyone. For Q2 2026, consolidated revenue increased 27.6% to $39.4 million, compared with $30.9 million in Q2 2025. Within that total, KSX revenue increased 68.3% to $22.3 million, compared with $13.3 million in the prior year quarter. Extended warranty revenue decreased 3.1% to $17.1 million, compared with $17.6 million a year ago. However, on a pro forma basis for the sale of Trinity, extended warranty revenue increased 6.5% to $16.1 million from $15.1 million a year ago. Pro forma extended warranty cash sales increased 6.9%. Consolidated net income for the quarter was $200,000, compared with a net loss of $3.2 million in Q2 2025. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $5.2 million, compared with $1.7 million in the prior year quarter.
Speaker #1: Within that total, KSX revenue increased $68.3% to $22.3 million, compared with $13.3 million in the prior year quarter. Extended warranty revenue decreased $3.1% to $17.1 million, compared with $17.6 million a year ago.
Speaker #1: However, on a pro forma basis for the sale of Trinity, extended warranty revenue increased $6.5% to $16.1 million from $15.1 million a year ago.
Speaker #1: Pro forma extended warranty cash sales increased $6.9%. Consolidated net income for the quarter was $200,000, compared with a net loss of $3.2 million in the second quarter of 2025.
Speaker #1: Consolidated adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $5.2 million, compared with $1.7 million in the prior year quarter. Turning the segment profitability KSX adjusted EBITDA increased by $77.9% to $4.3 million, compared with $2.4 million in the second quarter of 2025.
Kent Hansen: Turning to segment profitability, KSX adjusted EBITDA increased by 77.9% to $4.3 million, compared with $2.4 million in Q2 2025. Extended warranty adjusted EBITDA was $1.1 million, compared with $600,000 a year ago. On a pro forma basis for the sale of Trinity, extended warranty adjusted EBITDA was $1 million, compared with $300,000 a year ago. Portfolio LTM EBITDA for the operating companies was $22 to 23 million as of 30 June 2026. This metric subtracts the contribution from Trinity, which produced adjusted EBITDA of about $900,000 in both 2025 and in the 12 months ended 31 March 2026, but does not include a contribution of +$500,000 related to the acquisition of RCC. We continue to view portfolio LTM EBITDA as a useful measure of the trailing earnings capacity of the operating portfolio and one that aligns with how we assess the business internally.
Kent Hansen: Turning to segment profitability, KSX adjusted EBITDA increased by 77.9% to $4.3 million, compared with $2.4 million in Q2 2025. Extended warranty adjusted EBITDA was $1.1 million, compared with $600,000 a year ago. On a pro forma basis for the sale of Trinity, extended warranty adjusted EBITDA was $1 million, compared with $300,000 a year ago. Portfolio LTM EBITDA for the operating companies was $22 to 23 million as of 30 June 2026. This metric subtracts the contribution from Trinity, which produced adjusted EBITDA of about $900,000 in both 2025 and in the 12 months ended 31 March 2026, but does not include a contribution of +$500,000 related to the acquisition of RCC. We continue to view portfolio LTM EBITDA as a useful measure of the trailing earnings capacity of the operating portfolio and one that aligns with how we assess the business internally.
Speaker #1: Extended warranty adjusted EBITDA was $1.1 million, compared with $600,000 a year ago. On a pro forma basis for the sale of Trinity, extended warranty adjusted EBITDA was $1 million, compared with $300,000 a year ago.
Speaker #1: Portfolio LTM EBITDA for the operating companies was $22 to $23 million, as of June 30, 2026. This metric subtracts the contribution from Trinity, which produced adjusted EBITDA of about $900,000 in both 2025 and in the 12-month ended March 31, 2026, but does not include a contribution of positive $500,000 related to the acquisition of RCC.
Speaker #1: We continue to view portfolio LTM EBITDA as a useful measure of the trailing earnings capacity of the operating portfolio and one that aligns with how we assess the business internally.
Speaker #1: Turning to the balance sheet, total net debt was $59.9 million as of June 30, 2026, compared with $62.4 million at December 31, 2025. Before I hand the call back to JT, there are a few accounting items worth highlighting during the quarter.
Kent Hansen: Turning to the balance sheet, total net debt was $59.9 million as of 30 June 2026, compared with $62.4 million at 31 December 2025. Before I hand the call back to J.T., there are a few accounting items worth highlighting during the quarter. First, the sale of Trinity resulted in a one-time gain of $1.3 million, which appears on the income statement below the operating income line as a gain on disposal of subsidiary. It also can be found in the cash flow statement in cash from investing activities. Second, Kingsway received approximately $1.1 million in cash distributions during the quarter from search fund investments related to Argo that remain active. These distributions appear in the income statement below the operating line in interest in investment income and also can be found under the cash flow statement in cash from investing activities.
Kent Hansen: Turning to the balance sheet, total net debt was $59.9 million as of 30 June 2026, compared with $62.4 million at 31 December 2025. Before I hand the call back to J.T., there are a few accounting items worth highlighting during the quarter. First, the sale of Trinity resulted in a one-time gain of $1.3 million, which appears on the income statement below the operating income line as a gain on disposal of subsidiary. It also can be found in the cash flow statement in cash from investing activities. Second, Kingsway received approximately $1.1 million in cash distributions during the quarter from search fund investments related to Argo that remain active. These distributions appear in the income statement below the operating line in interest in investment income and also can be found under the cash flow statement in cash from investing activities.
Speaker #1: First, the sale of Trinity resulted in a one-time gain of $1.3 million, which appears on the income statement below the operating income line as a gain on disposal of subsidiary.
Speaker #1: It also can be found in the cash flow statement and cash from investing activities. Second, KINGSWAY received approximately $1.1 million in cash distributions during the quarter from search fund investments, related to Argo that remain active.
Speaker #1: These distributions appear in the income statement below the operating line and interest in investment income, and also can be found in the cash flow statement and cash from investing activities.
Speaker #1: As search is core to Kingsway's strategy, the Argo gains are included in consolidated adjusted EBITDA at the holdco level. Third, Kingsway incurred $1.4 million of non-cash expenses related to the grant and modification of long-term stock-based awards.
Kent Hansen: As search is core to Kingsway's strategy, the Argo gains are included in consolidated adjusted EBITDA at the hold co level. Third, Kingsway incurred $1.4 million of non-cash expenses related to the grant and modification of long-term stock-based awards. This non-cash expense ran through the income statement above the operating line during the quarter. We expect the impact of stock-based awards to be lower and more in line with historical levels going forward. Fourth, during the quarter, the company successfully resolved a legacy legal liability related to the 2022 sale of a Texas rail yard to BNSF. This one-time expense totaled about $600,000 and ran through the income statement above the operating line in the Q2 financials. We're glad to have this resolved and this legacy matter behind us. Finally, a brief financing note.
Kent Hansen: As search is core to Kingsway's strategy, the Argo gains are included in consolidated adjusted EBITDA at the hold co level. Third, Kingsway incurred $1.4 million of non-cash expenses related to the grant and modification of long-term stock-based awards. This non-cash expense ran through the income statement above the operating line during the quarter. We expect the impact of stock-based awards to be lower and more in line with historical levels going forward. Fourth, during the quarter, the company successfully resolved a legacy legal liability related to the 2022 sale of a Texas rail yard to BNSF. This one-time expense totaled about $600,000 and ran through the income statement above the operating line in the Q2 financials. We're glad to have this resolved and this legacy matter behind us. Finally, a brief financing note.
Speaker #1: This non-cash expense ran through the income statement above the operating line during the quarter. We expect the impact of stock-based awards to be lower and more in line with historical levels going forward.
Speaker #1: Fourth, during the quarter, the company successfully resolved a legacy legal liability related to the 2022 sale of a Texas rail yard to BNSF.
Speaker #1: This one-time expense totaled about $600,000 and ran through the income statement above the operating line in the Q2 financials. We're glad to have this resolved and this legacy matter behind us.
Speaker #1: Finally, a brief financing note. As disclosed in Reform 10Q, three of our operating subsidiaries, representing under 10% of LTM portfolio EBITDA, were out of covenant compliance during the quarter.
Kent Hansen: As disclosed in our Form 10-Q, three of our operating subsidiaries, representing under 10% of LTM portfolio EBITDA, were out of covenant compliance during the quarter, and we have attained or are in process of obtaining a waiver of each of these violations. These loans are non-recourse to Kingsway Corporation and to our other subsidiaries. They do not cross default to one another. Any individual covenant matter is contained at the operating company level. These are the same businesses we discussed as being in transition earlier, with line of sight to operational improvement that should bring each of them back into compliance over time. We believe all three companies are headed in the right direction and look forward to their operational and strategic progress being reflected in improving results in the quarters ahead. Overall, I'd like to reiterate J.T.'s message.
Kent Hansen: As disclosed in our Form 10-Q, three of our operating subsidiaries, representing under 10% of LTM portfolio EBITDA, were out of covenant compliance during the quarter, and we have attained or are in process of obtaining a waiver of each of these violations. These loans are non-recourse to Kingsway Corporation and to our other subsidiaries. They do not cross default to one another. Any individual covenant matter is contained at the operating company level. These are the same businesses we discussed as being in transition earlier, with line of sight to operational improvement that should bring each of them back into compliance over time. We believe all three companies are headed in the right direction and look forward to their operational and strategic progress being reflected in improving results in the quarters ahead. Overall, I'd like to reiterate J.T.'s message.
Speaker #1: And we have a team or are in process of obtaining waiver of each of these. Violations. These loans are non-recourse to KINGSWAY Corporation and to our other subsidiaries, and they do not cross default to one another, so any individual covenant matter is contained at the operating company level.
Speaker #1: These are the same businesses we discussed as being in transition earlier, with line of sight to operational improvement that should bring each of them back into compliance over time.
Speaker #1: We believe all three companies are headed in the right direction and look forward to their operational and strategic progress being reflected in improving results in the quarters ahead.
Speaker #1: Overall, I'd like to reiterate JT's message. This was an exceptionally strong quarter for KINGSWAY, both financially and strategically, but it feels like we have an abundant opportunity to cross our businesses to drive further top-line and bottom-line growth.
Kent Hansen: This was an exceptionally strong quarter for Kingsway, both financially and strategically, it feels like we have abundant opportunities across our businesses to drive further top line and bottom line growth and to do even better. I'm pleased by the progress we've made and excited for what's ahead. With that, I'll turn the call back to J.T.
Kent Hansen: This was an exceptionally strong quarter for Kingsway, both financially and strategically, it feels like we have abundant opportunities across our businesses to drive further top line and bottom line growth and to do even better. I'm pleased by the progress we've made and excited for what's ahead. With that, I'll turn the call back to J.T.
Speaker #1: And to do even better. I'm pleased by the progress we've made and excited for what's ahead. With that, I'll turn the call back to JT.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Ken. Before opening up for questions, I'd like to briefly share a big-picture perspective regarding where Kingsway is today and where I believe Kingsway is headed.
John T. Fitzgerald: Thanks, Kent. Before opening up for questions, I'd like to briefly share a big picture perspective regarding where Kingsway is today and where I believe Kingsway is headed. It's my view that Kingsway fits the profile of what is known in the public markets as a compounder, a company that consistently grow its intrinsic value on a per share basis over a long period of time at above average rate. Proven compounders have generated significant long-term returns for shareholders. They have also been rewarded with premium valuation multiples by public market investors. Compounders tend to share two essential qualities. First, they have attractive business models that generate high cash flow return on capital. They convert a large share of their earnings into cash, and they earn high returns on the capital they deploy.
J.T. Fitzgerald: Thanks, Kent. Before opening up for questions, I'd like to briefly share a big picture perspective regarding where Kingsway is today and where I believe Kingsway is headed. It's my view that Kingsway fits the profile of what is known in the public markets as a compounder, a company that consistently grow its intrinsic value on a per share basis over a long period of time at above average rate. Proven compounders have generated significant long-term returns for shareholders. They have also been rewarded with premium valuation multiples by public market investors. Compounders tend to share two essential qualities. First, they have attractive business models that generate high cash flow return on capital. They convert a large share of their earnings into cash, and they earn high returns on the capital they deploy.
Speaker #2: It's my view that KINGSWAY fits the profile of what is known in the public markets as a compounder, a company that consistently grows its intrinsic value on a per share basis over a long period of time at above average rate.
Speaker #2: Proven compounders have generated significant long-term returns for shareholders. They have also been rewarded with premium valuation multiples by public market investors. Compounders tend to share two essential qualities.
Speaker #2: First, they have attractive business models that generate high cash flow return on capital. They convert a large share of their earnings into cash, and they earn high returns on the capital they deploy.
Speaker #2: Second, they're able to reinvest that cash flow at high rates of return over a long period of time. Many publicly listed compounders achieve this second point by being serial acquirers of good businesses at attractive prices.
John T. Fitzgerald: Second, they're able to reinvest that cash flow at high rates of return over a long period of time. Many publicly listed compounders achieve this second point by being serial acquirers of good businesses at attractive prices. This is exactly what we are building at Kingsway. Our operating companies are asset light, recurring revenue services businesses capable of a high cash flow return on capital. What differentiates us is the opportunity to reinvest that cash flow. The search fund model points us at a vast, fragmented universe of small, high quality businesses whose owners are steadily reaching retirement, giving us years or even decades of acquisition runway. Pairing that runway with the operational playbook of the Kingsway Business System inside a tax efficient public vehicle is what gives Kingsway the potential over time to join the ranks of publicly listed compounders.
J.T. Fitzgerald: Second, they're able to reinvest that cash flow at high rates of return over a long period of time. Many publicly listed compounders achieve this second point by being serial acquirers of good businesses at attractive prices. This is exactly what we are building at Kingsway. Our operating companies are asset light, recurring revenue services businesses capable of a high cash flow return on capital. What differentiates us is the opportunity to reinvest that cash flow. The search fund model points us at a vast, fragmented universe of small, high quality businesses whose owners are steadily reaching retirement, giving us years or even decades of acquisition runway. Pairing that runway with the operational playbook of the Kingsway Business System inside a tax efficient public vehicle is what gives Kingsway the potential over time to join the ranks of publicly listed compounders.
Speaker #2: This is exactly what we are building at Kingsway. Our operating companies are asset-light, recurring-revenue services businesses, capable of a high cash flow return on capital.
Speaker #2: But what differentiates us is the opportunity to reinvest that cash flow. The search fund model points us at a vast, fragmented universe of small, high-quality businesses whose owners are steadily reaching retirement, giving us years or even decades of acquisition runway.
Speaker #2: Pairing that runway with the operational playbook of the KINGSWAY business system inside a tax-efficient public vehicle is what gives KINGSWAY the potential, over time, to join the ranks of publicly listed compounders.
Speaker #2: Over the last few years, we have shared this vision with investors including at our investor day, as we've worked to spin up the model.
John T. Fitzgerald: Over the last few years, we have shared this vision with investors, including at our investor day, as we've worked to spin up the model. It's not enough to talk about it. We also have to deliver the numbers to back it up. Today is a milestone day for Kingsway because it is a clear data point that Kingsway is on the right track. Record KSX EBITDA, record portfolio EBITDA, and we're still in the early days of our journey. As we continue to prove out the model and just demonstrate attractive financial results quarter after quarter, we believe it is just a matter of time before the value we are building will become unmistakable to the market. With that operator, we're ready to take questions.
J.T. Fitzgerald: Over the last few years, we have shared this vision with investors, including at our investor day, as we've worked to spin up the model. It's not enough to talk about it. We also have to deliver the numbers to back it up. Today is a milestone day for Kingsway because it is a clear data point that Kingsway is on the right track. Record KSX EBITDA, record portfolio EBITDA, and we're still in the early days of our journey. As we continue to prove out the model and just demonstrate attractive financial results quarter after quarter, we believe it is just a matter of time before the value we are building will become unmistakable to the market. With that operator, we're ready to take questions.
Speaker #2: But it's not enough to talk about it. We also have to deliver the numbers to back it up. Today is a milestone day for KINGSWAY because it is a clear data point that KINGSWAY is on the right track.
Speaker #2: Record KSX EBITDA, record portfolio EBITDA, and we're still on the early days of our journey. As we continue to prove out the model and demonstrate attractive financial results quarter after quarter, we believe it is just a matter of time before the value we are building will become unmistakable for the market.
Speaker #2: With that, operator, we're ready to take questions.
Speaker #1: Certainly. Everyone at this time will be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you have any questions or comments, please press star 1 on your phone at this time.
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Operator: Certainly. Everyone at this time will be conducting a question and answer session. If you have any questions or comments, please press *1 on your phone at this time. We do ask that while posing your question, please pick up your handset if you're listening on speakerphone to provide optimum sound quality. Once again, if you have any questions or comments, please press *1 on your phone. Please hold while we poll for questions. Thank you. Once again, everyone, if you have any questions or comments, please press star then one on your phone. Please hold while we poll for questions. Thank you. That concludes our Q&A session. I'll now hand the conference back to James Carbonara for emailed questions.
Speaker #1: We do ask that while posing your question, please pick up your handset if you're listening on speakerphone to provide optimum sound quality. Once again, if you have any questions or comments, please press star 1 on your phone.
Speaker #1: Please hold while we poll for questions. Thank you. And once again, everyone, if you have any questions or comments, please press star then 1 on your phone.
Speaker #1: Please hold while we poll for questions. Thank you. That concludes our Q&A session. I'll now hand the conference back to James Carbonera for emailed questions.
Speaker #3: Thank you, operator. The first question that came in asks, "Can you please share more information about the RCC acquisition, how you found it, and why it makes sense for image solutions?"
James Carbonara: Thank you, operator. The first question that came in asks, Can you please share more information about the RCC acquisition, how you found it, and why it makes sense for Image Solutions?
James Carbonara: Thank you, operator. The first question that came in asks, Can you please share more information about the RCC acquisition, how you found it, and why it makes sense for Image Solutions?
Speaker #2: Hey, James. Thanks. Yep. Yeah, RCC is a really nice little business—greater than 80% recurring revenue, strong margins, and a history of really nice organic growth.
John T. Fitzgerald: Hey, James. Thanks. Yeah. RCC is a really nice little business. Greater than 80% recurring revenue, strong margins, and a history of really nice organic growth, sort of outpacing the industry. If you combine that with a motivated seller for retirement reasons and an attractive multiple, I think the deal stands alone on its merits. I think additionally, if you think about Image Solutions and part of the thesis there, obviously, long term secular growth trend in IT managed services. There is an element of organic growth to the thesis. As part of our original investment thesis and value creation plan, an inorganic strategy was always contemplated. Davide is now almost two years into that acquisition.
J.T. Fitzgerald: Hey, James. Thanks. Yeah. RCC is a really nice little business. Greater than 80% recurring revenue, strong margins, and a history of really nice organic growth, sort of outpacing the industry. If you combine that with a motivated seller for retirement reasons and an attractive multiple, I think the deal stands alone on its merits. I think additionally, if you think about Image Solutions and part of the thesis there, obviously, long term secular growth trend in IT managed services. There is an element of organic growth to the thesis. As part of our original investment thesis and value creation plan, an inorganic strategy was always contemplated. Davide is now almost two years into that acquisition.
Speaker #2: You sort of outpacing the industry. If you combine that with a motivated seller for retirement reasons and an attractive multiple, I think the deal stands alone on its merits.
Speaker #2: I think additionally, if you think about image solutions and part of the thesis there, obviously, long-term secular growth trend in IT-managed services. So there is an element of organic growth to the thesis, but as part of our original investment thesis and value creation plan, inorganic strategy was always contemplated.
Speaker #2: Davide is now almost two years into that
Speaker #1: That acquisition got through the first few phases of KBS deployment , learned the business , stabilized the business , install the operating structure , and in that period of time has earned both the confidence of us and and also delivered the business to give him the capacity to start exploring , tuck in acquisitions .
John T. Fitzgerald: Got through the first few phases of KBS deployment, learned the business, stabilized the business, installed the operating structure, and in that period of time, has earned both the confidence of us and also de-levered the business to give him the capacity to start exploring tuck-in acquisitions. I just feel like it was a really great fit for Davide for all of the strategic reasons, and a really nice business at a fair price. To the first part of your question about how we found it, through our normal sourcing channels. This one came through a broker. Davide was pretty quickly able to set himself apart from anyone else interested, given the complementary fit of the two businesses and the aspirations of the seller.
J.T. Fitzgerald: Got through the first few phases of KBS deployment, learned the business, stabilized the business, installed the operating structure, and in that period of time, has earned both the confidence of us and also de-levered the business to give him the capacity to start exploring tuck-in acquisitions. I just feel like it was a really great fit for Davide for all of the strategic reasons, and a really nice business at a fair price. To the first part of your question about how we found it, through our normal sourcing channels. This one came through a broker. Davide was pretty quickly able to set himself apart from anyone else interested, given the complementary fit of the two businesses and the aspirations of the seller.
Speaker #1: So I just feel like it was a really great fit for for Davide , for all of the strategic reasons and a really nice business at a , at a , at a , at a fair price .
Speaker #1: To the first , to the first part of your question about how we , how we found it through our normal sourcing channels , this one came through a broker , but Davide was pretty quickly able to set himself apart from anyone else interested .
Speaker #1: Given the complementary fit of the two businesses and the aspirations of the seller
Speaker #2: Great . Thank you . Okay . The next question says the $1.1 million of cash received from Argo . Are there many active Argo search investments that remain , and do you think Kingsway might receive additional cash distributions in the future from Argo
James Carbonara: Great. Thank you. The next question says, The $1.1 million of cash received from Argo, are there many active Argo search investments that remain? Do you think Kingsway might receive additional cash distributions in the future from Argo?
James Carbonara: Great. Thank you. The next question says, The $1.1 million of cash received from Argo, are there many active Argo search investments that remain? Do you think Kingsway might receive additional cash distributions in the future from Argo?
Speaker #1: Yeah . So there are several handful , probably active Argo search investments that remain probably three of significance . I think it's important to point out that the cash we received in the quarter was a distribution , a dividend from two of two of those companies .
John T. Fitzgerald: There are several, a handful probably, active Argo search investments that remain. Probably three of significance. I think it's important to point out that the cash we received in the quarter was a distribution, a dividend from two of those companies. We still own our equity interest in those businesses, and they continue to operate. Yes, I definitely expect that we should receive additional distributions from those companies in the future, either in the form of another dividend or ultimately, as a result of a monetization event.
J.T. Fitzgerald: There are several, a handful probably, active Argo search investments that remain. Probably three of significance. I think it's important to point out that the cash we received in the quarter was a distribution, a dividend from two of those companies. We still own our equity interest in those businesses, and they continue to operate. Yes, I definitely expect that we should receive additional distributions from those companies in the future, either in the form of another dividend or ultimately, as a result of a monetization event.
Speaker #1: And so we still own our equity interest in those businesses . And they continue to operate . And so , yes , I , I definitely expect that we should receive additional distributions from those companies in the future , either in the form of another dividend or ultimately , as a result of a monetization event
Speaker #2: Great . Thank you . Additional questions that came in roundhouse , triple A and South Side have now passed their one year marks .
James Carbonara: Great. Thank you. Additional questions that came in. Roundhouse, AAA, and Southside have now passed their 1-year marks. Now that they're fully in the reported numbers, is the $22 to $23 million portfolio EBITDA figure something investors should think of as a floor to grow from?
James Carbonara: Great. Thank you. Additional questions that came in. Roundhouse, AAA, and Southside have now passed their 1-year marks. Now that they're fully in the reported numbers, is the $22 to $23 million portfolio EBITDA figure something investors should think of as a floor to grow from?
Speaker #2: Now that they're fully in the reported numbers, is the $22 to $23 million portfolio EBITDA figure something investors should think of as a floor to grow from?
Speaker #1: Small knit roundhouse is now one year . I think we got a . Another month or so with triple A and South Side .
John T. Fitzgerald: Small nit. Roundhouse is now 1 year. I think we got another month or so with AAA and Southside. We have done a couple of small, HR Team and Ledgers maybe still have a few months to go. Yeah, I think that that's a fair way to say it, that $22 to 23 million is the last 12 months of operating performance of the businesses that we have largely owned for now 12 months. I would think that that is a good thing for investors to anchor to, which is that should start showing up in the full-year results on a trailing basis.
J.T. Fitzgerald: Small nit. Roundhouse is now 1 year. I think we got another month or so with AAA and Southside. We have done a couple of small, HR Team and Ledgers maybe still have a few months to go. Yeah, I think that that's a fair way to say it, that $22 to 23 million is the last 12 months of operating performance of the businesses that we have largely owned for now 12 months. I would think that that is a good thing for investors to anchor to, which is that should start showing up in the full-year results on a trailing basis.
Speaker #1: We have done a couple of small . Well , I guess HR team and ledgers maybe still have a few months to go , but yeah , I think that that's a fair Way to say it that .
Speaker #1: 22 to 23 million is the last 12 months of operating performance of of the businesses that we have largely owned for now , 12 months .
Speaker #1: And so I would think that that is a good thing for investors to anchor to , which is that should start showing up in the full year results on a trailing basis
Speaker #2: Thank you . Next question . RCC was funded at the operating company level without new capital from Kingsway . Where does portfolio leverage sit today and how much tuck in capacity does that give you
James Carbonara: Thank you. Next question. RCC was funded at the operating company level without new capital from Kingsway. Where does portfolio leverage sit today, and how much tuck-in capacity does that give you?
James Carbonara: Thank you. Next question. RCC was funded at the operating company level without new capital from Kingsway. Where does portfolio leverage sit today, and how much tuck-in capacity does that give you?
Speaker #3: Hey , James , it's Kent , I'll take that one . I think , you know , we track we track our leverage .
Kent Hansen: Hey, James, this is Kent. I'll take that one. I think we track our leverage. I think right now we're around 2.7 consolidated, maybe a little bit lower on that. I think we do have plenty of room there, to continue going for the reasons that JT had mentioned earlier. We did it with RCC, we did it with Ledgers, we did it with the HR Team 1 year ago. I think it's a pretty good model to keep going forward.
Kent Hansen: Hey, James, this is Kent. I'll take that one. I think we track our leverage. I think right now we're around 2.7 consolidated, maybe a little bit lower on that. I think we do have plenty of room there, to continue going for the reasons that JT had mentioned earlier. We did it with RCC, we did it with Ledgers, we did it with the HR Team 1 year ago. I think it's a pretty good model to keep going forward.
Speaker #3: I think right now we're around 2.7 consolidated maybe a little bit lower on a on a that . And I think we do have I think we do have plenty of room there to continue going for the reasons that that JT had mentioned earlier .
Speaker #3: We , you know , we did it with RCC . We did it with ledgers . We did it with the HR team a year ago .
Speaker #3: So I think it's a pretty good model to , to keep going forward
Speaker #2: Thank you . And one last one that just came in a few seconds ago on email states the Stanford search Fund study continues to show very strong historical returns .
James Carbonara: Thank you. One last one that just came in a few seconds ago on email, states the Stanford Search Fund study continues to show very strong historical returns. Search is also becoming much more popular, and competitive. Are you seeing that increased competition show up in acquisition multiples today? As the space gets more crowded, how do you think Kingsway's platform positions your OIRs relative to someone pursuing a traditional search?
James Carbonara: Thank you. One last one that just came in a few seconds ago on email, states the Stanford Search Fund study continues to show very strong historical returns. Search is also becoming much more popular, and competitive. Are you seeing that increased competition show up in acquisition multiples today? As the space gets more crowded, how do you think Kingsway's platform positions your OIRs relative to someone pursuing a traditional search?
Speaker #2: But searches also becoming much more popular and competitive . Are you seeing that increased competition show up in acquisition multiples today ? And as the space gets more crowded , how do you think Kingsway's platform positions your IRS relative to someone pursuing a traditional search ?
Speaker #1: Yeah , certainly A lot of interest and enthusiasm around search . Broadly , I think that for traditional search , the recent study would show that search is getting harder with the percentage of searchers who fail to make an acquisition continuing to climb I think that Kingsway , it is a strong place for people who are worried about that .
John T. Fitzgerald: Certainly, a lot of interest and enthusiasm around search broadly. I think that for traditional search, the recent study would show that search is getting harder, with the percentage of searchers who fail to make an acquisition continuing to climb. I think that Kingsway is a strong place for people who are worried about that. You get to come into a platform with an active sourcing engine, a full tech stacks, fully stood up, an industry game board with dozens of industries where we've done a lot of work and are actively sourcing opportunities. Just in terms of improving the probability of success of closing a search, I think Kingsway is a great place. I think that as a result, we have seen the number of searchers interested in KSX, entrepreneurs interested in KSX continue to climb. Our pipeline has never been more active.
J.T. Fitzgerald: Certainly, a lot of interest and enthusiasm around search broadly. I think that for traditional search, the recent study would show that search is getting harder, with the percentage of searchers who fail to make an acquisition continuing to climb. I think that Kingsway is a strong place for people who are worried about that. You get to come into a platform with an active sourcing engine, a full tech stacks, fully stood up, an industry game board with dozens of industries where we've done a lot of work and are actively sourcing opportunities. Just in terms of improving the probability of success of closing a search, I think Kingsway is a great place. I think that as a result, we have seen the number of searchers interested in KSX, entrepreneurs interested in KSX continue to climb. Our pipeline has never been more active.
Speaker #1: You get to come into a platform with an active sourcing engine , a full tech stack fully stood up . An industry game board with dozens of industries where we've done a lot of work and are actively sourcing opportunities .
Speaker #1: And so just in terms of improving the probability of success , of closing a search , I think Kingsway is a is a great place .
Speaker #1: I think that as a result , we have seen the number of searchers interested in K , s , x entrepreneurs interested in k , s x continue to climb .
Speaker #1: So our pipeline has never been more active
Speaker #2: Thank you . I don't see any additional questions here on email . JT I'll throw it back to you for any closing comments
James Carbonara: Thank you. I don't see any additional questions here on email. J.T., I'll throw it back to you for any closing comments.
James Carbonara: Thank you. I don't see any additional questions here on email. J.T., I'll throw it back to you for any closing comments.
Speaker #1: Well thanks everyone . I , I just sort of thinking through the two part question there . I want to just make sure that I'm responsive to the whole thing .
John T. Fitzgerald: Well, thanks everyone. Just sort of thinking through the two-part question there. I want to just make sure that I'm responsive to the whole thing. A couple hundred active searches, we rarely bump into those searchers in deal processes. We haven't, and I think demonstrated by the multiples that we're doing deals at, even announced today, we're not seeing that creep into the multiples. Just want to make sure I was answering that. Anyway, with that, thank you everyone for joining us for the quarterly call, and onward and upward, as we like to say here. Thank you.
J.T. Fitzgerald: Well, thanks everyone. Just sort of thinking through the two-part question there. I want to just make sure that I'm responsive to the whole thing. A couple hundred active searches, we rarely bump into those searchers in deal processes. We haven't, and I think demonstrated by the multiples that we're doing deals at, even announced today, we're not seeing that creep into the multiples. Just want to make sure I was answering that. Anyway, with that, thank you everyone for joining us for the quarterly call, and onward and upward, as we like to say here. Thank you.
Speaker #1: You know , a couple hundred active searches , we rarely bump into those searchers in , in deal processes . So we haven't .
Speaker #1: And I think demonstrated by the multiples that we're doing deals at , you know , even announced today , we're not seeing that creep into the multiples .
Speaker #1: So I just wanted to make sure I was answering that. So anyway, with that, thank you, everyone, for joining us for the quarterly call.
Speaker #1: And onward and upward, as we like to say here. Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. Everyone, this concludes today's event. You may disconnect at this time, and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.
Operator: Thank you. Everyone, this concludes today's event. You may disconnect at this time, and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.