Q1 2026 Eve Holding Inc Earnings Call
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Speaker #2: Thank you, Operator. Good morning, everyone. This is Lucio Aldworth, the Director of Investor Relations at Eve, and I wanted to welcome everyone to our first quarter 2026 earnings conference call.
Speaker #2: Our CEO, Johann Bordais, and CFO, Eduardo Couto, are joining me on the call today. After their prepared remarks, we will open the call for questions.
Speaker #2: At that point, Luis Valentini, our Chief Technology Officer, will also join in to address some more technical questions. We have a deck with a few slides and additional pictures that showcase our achievements in the quarter, including of course the more recent stages of the test flights and of our full-scale prototype.
Speaker #2: The deck is available on our site at ir.eveairmobility.com, so please feel free to download it and follow along. And in fact, we just published on our website today a video of one of the more recent flights that features some more complex on-air maneuvers you might want to check that out as well.
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Speaker #2: Now I'll turn it over to our CEO, Johann Bordais. Johann?
Speaker #3: Thank you, Lucio. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the first quarter 2026 conference call. This quarter was especially significant. As many of you know, we achieved the inaugural flight of our engineering prototype last December, after thorough development and a series of rigs and ground tests.
Speaker #3: This major milestone validated not only our building-block concept but extensively testing every part, but also the integration of critical systems such as fly-by-wire and fixed pitch lifter rotors.
Speaker #3: The successful first flight launched and intensive flight test campaign. Our prototype completed 59 flights and logged nearly 2.5 hours in the air, with multiple days of 2 flights and the completion of all planned hover-phase objectives.
Speaker #3: Moving to slide 3, more than quantity, our flight campaign has also excelled in quality. Every flight is planned to test and validate specific aircraft components or flight metrics.
Speaker #3: In total, our engineers have already validated 130 different performance points. The prototype has reached 215 feet above the ground, and now moving forward at 30 knots.
Speaker #3: As an example of the envelope expansion, our first flight in December was stationary, with the aircraft climbing to 40 feet. Besides flying more frequently, longer, higher, and faster since the first flight, we have also introduced multiple on-air maneuvers to the protocols.
Speaker #3: We use a building-block approach in both design and flight testing, which means we break complex systems into smaller parts, test each unit until it reaches the needed maturity, and then build on these components.
Speaker #3: Each test validates specific points and allows progression to next level, more complex phases of the campaign. As such, the aircraft has tested and validated the auto-land feature, fully controlled by the fly-by-wire system.
Speaker #3: We have also performed difficult maneuvers in all 4 axes with consistent behavior, allowing continuous envelope expansion. On slide 4, the flight campaign has delivered meaningful knowledge gain to date.
Speaker #3: Most importantly, we confirmed that our productive models are reliable and precise, enabling safe and confident campaign advancement. Ground effect behaved somewhat differently but loads remain within expectations.
Speaker #3: These common small deviations help us further refine and improve our engineering models. We have better-than-expected results for motor thrust and battery performance, with noise and vibration meeting our expectations.
Speaker #3: The key takeaway is that we remain on track for further envelope expansion and more complex flights. Speaking of which, slide 5 shows the next steps in the engineering prototype test campaign for this year.
Speaker #3: The flights up to now have been in hover mode up to 30 knots, and all were completed successfully on schedule with approximately 60 flights.
Speaker #3: During the remainder of the second quarter, we will upload refined flight computer software and perform final ground tests on the pusher and actuators. This will ensure that they are fully integrated with all the other aircraft systems in preparation to initiate transition flights.
Speaker #3: Besides software upgrades, we will also perform mandatory structural ground tests and layout activities that are required for the transition phase and that will last a few weeks.
Speaker #3: This is critical opportunity that will help us validate methods, setups, instrumentation, and test techniques to continue advancing. In a nutshell, this structural and software upload phase is an investment in the of the coming transition and certification path.
Speaker #3: The transition phase will also be gradual. We will start with a partial transition, progressively increasing speed. The lifters will be engaged, and to provide the aircraft with the necessary vertical support.
Speaker #3: At the end of this phase, we plan to accelerate the aircraft to a full transition speed above 85 knots. At this point, the entire lift of the aircraft will be provided by the wing, meaning that the aircraft will be wing-borne flight, with lifters motors off.
Speaker #3: This is the aircraft ultimate mission. Takeoff vertically, transition to wing-borne flight, and then transition back to vertical flight for landing procedures. After transition testing, we will introduce controlled failures, such as motor shutdown, to observe system reaction and refine the safety procedures and the pilot's protocols.
Speaker #3: Meanwhile, we are concluding the critical design review with our suppliers for each component that will be featured in our coming conforming prototypes. This will allow us to release drawings and continue manufacturing components within the required specs to start testing our conforming vehicle in 2027.
Speaker #3: We continue to mature our flight test campaign, advance our engineering prototype this year while gaining greater visibility into the certification plans for our conforming vehicles.
Speaker #3: This suggests that certification and entry into service are more likely in 2028, as we will need to fly our conforming vehicles for 12 months to complete all necessary certification tests.
Speaker #3: It is important to mention that this greater visibility gives us more confidence in the new schedule and lowers its risk. The new timeline is also important to incorporate knowledge gain from the engineering prototype to the conforming prototype, and guaranteeing the maturity and performance level of our Eve 100 EVTOL, especially for range, noise, reliability, payload, and lower operating cost.
Speaker #3: We are now confident that we can deliver an aircraft that is very competitive and well-designed for urban air mobility missions. In parallel, on slide 6, we continue to engage with authorities worldwide to advance certification for our EVTOL.
Speaker #3: We recently performed a demonstration at the Gavion Peugeot Tow and Breeder facility in Brazil for several Brazilian authorities, including the President of Brazil. We also met with both Brazil ANAC and the U.S.
Speaker #3: FAA certification authorities at our Melbourne, Florida office to continue discussing our certification timeline. We also met with Japan, JCAB, and ANAC to strengthen cooperation between the two agencies.
Speaker #3: Lastly, we formally applied for our EVTOL TAP certificate with YASA. Moving on to slide 7, we attended Verticon in Atlanta. The world's largest helicopter conference.
Speaker #3: Our goal was to raise awareness to our EVTOL among helicopter operators. We believe that these operators will be very early adopters and see an attractive short-term commercial opportunity with them.
Speaker #3: Slide 8 shows our total pre-order backlog, with approximately 2,700 aircraft valued at about $13.5 billion at list price. Out of the 27 customers, we also have LOIs with $14 different customers for our EVTOL aftermarket services and support, as well as 21 different potential customers for our air traffic management solution called Vector.
Speaker #3: Now I will hand over to our CFO, Edu, for the 2026 first quarter financial review.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Johan. Eve ended first quarter 2026 with a record cash position of $441 million, and total liquidity of $578 million, including about $136 million in undrawn credit from the Brazilian Development Bank.
Speaker #1: This is our highest cash level since the IPO, driven by a new 5-year $150 million loan raised in January. This added liquidity should support operations through 2028 without new funding.
Speaker #1: We are also working with Embraer to find new synergies to reduce our cash burn from 2026 to 2028. Our initial review indicates that we can achieve $100 million to $150 million in incremental synergies in the next 3 years.
Speaker #1: Likely, reducing cash usage and extending our cash runway. We are ready to start to implement these actions. Our 2026 expected cash burn remains at $225 to $275 million, excluding the new potential synergies under implementation.
Speaker #1: Now moving to slide 10, just to highlight some of our numbers. Eve invested $59 million in R&D during the first quarter 2026, mainly for EVTOL development.
Speaker #1: SG&A expenses totaled $7,000 for the quarter, including R&D and SG&A, Eve's net loss for first quarter 2026 was $69 million. Finally, as mentioned previously, we ended the quarter with $441 million in cash and $578 million in total liquidity.
Speaker #1: Cash consumption in the first quarter was $69 million, but this figure includes approximately $11 million in service expected to have been paid in the fourth quarter of 2025.
Speaker #1: Excluding this additional payment in the first quarter 2026, our cash consumption was $57 million, and in line with the low end of our guidance.
Speaker #1: With that, we conclude our remarks, and I would like to open the call for questions. Operator, please proceed.
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Speaker #2: The first question is from Savi Sites from Raymond James. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: Hey, good morning, everyone. Maybe Edu first. Just on the synergies, could you provide a little bit of color on what type of actions those are, and just to make sure that the $100 to $150 million you're targeting over a 3-year period, is that coming off of a base of roughly $250 million per year over the next few years?
Speaker #4: Is that how we should think about it?
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Speaker #1: Yeah, you're correct. We did a big workshop in Brazil a couple of weeks ago, and there was more than 200 people involved on that.
Speaker #1: From Eve and Embraer's side, we basically explored I would say four main areas. We explored the Eve structure, right? We have a lot of costs at Eve.
Speaker #1: We also explored all the service that Embraer provides to us. A third pocket was suppliers, right, and our activities we do with third-party suppliers.
Speaker #1: And the fourth one was industrialization. So after doing this big workshop, we were able to initially identify these $100 to $150 million that we expected to capture between 2026 to 2028.
Speaker #1: That would be a reduction, right, on the expected cash burn. That we were planning for the next 3 years. And you're right, we believe these actions will help us to reduce the forecasted cash flow to the years ahead, cash burn to the years ahead.
Speaker #4: That's helpful. Thank you. And maybe if Valentina is there, just on the means of compliance, I know last kind of earnings call you talked about working on two fronts.
Speaker #4: Just wondering if there's any kind of update on that, and just related to that, you noted that some suppliers have kind of already initiated performance certification rehearsal tests.
Speaker #4: Just wondering if you could elaborate a little bit more on that.
Speaker #3: Sure. Good morning, Savi. This is Luis Valentini. So we continue to work with ANAC and also with the FAA on the discussion of the means of compliance.
Speaker #3: I think we've had good progress recently. We've had all of the means of compliance proposed to ANAC. They are inside the certification plans, we call.
Speaker #3: But basically, we've been discussing them one by one, and we have all of them proposed. We believe that we are at around 90% of the means of compliance agreed which puts us, we believe, in a good position, like you said, to start working on detailed design of the test campaigns in order to show compliance with requirements.
Speaker #3: We also were able to find good agreement on the noise certification requirement, which is not part of the certification basis but is an important part of the certification and operation of the vehicle.
Speaker #3: So we believe that it's still on par with the development of the vehicle itself. With respect to other authorities, we've also been engaging with the FAA as we communicated previously.
Speaker #3: But most of the alignment work on the means of compliance is done directly with ANAC, being the primary certification authority.
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Speaker #2: The next question is from Andres Sheppard from Canter Fitzgerald. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Hey guys, good morning. Thanks for taking our question and congrats on the quarter. One of the subs on the flight campaign for a minute.
Speaker #1: So just to make sure I have it right, so we're targeting first full transition flight in Q3. So I guess what just remind us what are the milestones leading up to it, and how confident are we in that milestone in Q3?
Speaker #1: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Hey Andres, good morning. This is Luis Valentini. So we've been flying quite a bit as we've shown all of the flights in the hover flight phase.
Speaker #3: So we've been pretty excited, not only with the pace of the campaign, but also with the results that are coming out. That makes us confident in moving forward with the tests, right?
Speaker #3: The next few weeks will be focused on testing some of the integration of the systems in the ground. So we've been planning shifting from a period of many flights to now a period of tests on the ground.
Speaker #3: And that, again, will focus on making sure that the flight control surfaces work well with the flight control laws, connected with the pusher, and so all of the lifters, of course, all of that connected.
Speaker #3: We also will have more tests in the ground that are focused on the structure, on the airframe of the vehicle, to make sure that the vehicle is ready for the larger envelope of flight that we will start from the Q2 to Q3.
Speaker #3: Of course, there is a lot to be learned as we move on to this new transition flight phase. So like I said, we're confident, and we're excited on the way that the vehicle has been showing itself with respect as it compared to our expectations.
Speaker #3: But there's a lot to be found out still on this expansion and as we move forward. So we are planning this preparation phase very carefully to increase the chances of doing the transition.
Speaker #3: And again, that's very important not only for the transition itself, but on the way that it brings knowledge for us to increase the maturity we progress to building the certification prototypes and moving to the certification flight test campaign.
Speaker #1: Got it. Wonderful. Thank you. I really appreciate all that context. Very helpful. And maybe just one quick follow-up. Just on the backlog, can you remind us kind of the strategy for this for this year?
Speaker #1: Is the plan to continue to increase the backlog, or are we happy with the number and now we'll be more about converting those LOIs?
Speaker #1: Just kind of curious how you're thinking about it for this year. Thank you.
Speaker #5: Yeah, thanks, André. A few of them speaking. When it comes to the backlog, we still have the strongest pre-order book with 2,700 aircraft at this stage.
Speaker #5: We understand the number of LOI and the spread of our customers and the customer profile is what we need really. It's a variety of first-mile, last-mile operation.
Speaker #5: It's also sightseeing. It's also Oregon transportation, different type of mission, which I think it's the right balance in different parts of the world where it's Australia, it's Japan, it's Brazil, obviously, and the United States.
Speaker #5: So we're very comfortable with our portfolio right now. We demonstrated that we have the right solution because we very preoccupied based on our strong experience of Embraer, how is the operation will be.
Speaker #5: So that's something that we work hard also to make sure that we have the ecosystem ready. And this is what's driven this big order book, let's say, right?
Speaker #5: And the strategy for since last year, this year, is to engage the customers so they can go for firm contracts so then they can also engage with their local authority together with Eve.
Speaker #5: But also the stakeholders and prepare to enter the service, right? Certification is really the starting line. And the game will be on when they're going to be operating.
Speaker #5: We'll be delivering certifying and delivering those aircraft and then they'll be able to operate with the lowest operating cost, with the highest utilization, and this is how we're going to be starting the urban mobility.
Speaker #5: So first we'll be Rivero and then air excess we announced this year. At the Singapore Airshow in Japan, but then we're working with other customers in Brazil, but also the United States.
Speaker #1: Wonderful. Thanks, Johan. Thanks, everyone. Congrats again. We'll pass it on. Appreciate it, André.
Speaker #2: The next question is from Sheila Kawaglu from Jefferies. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: Hi everyone. This is Kira on for Sheila. Thank you for taking my question. And I appreciate the added color on the flight test progress.
Speaker #4: You mentioned greater engagement with suppliers with the pickup in R&D. Could you maybe walk us through how conversations with suppliers have developed since flight tests began and how work is progressing on the supplier side at this point in the campaign?
Speaker #3: Hey Sheila, this is Luis Valentini. So what we've been doing with the suppliers is making sure that we have the parts and their systems in the most optimized way for the vehicle to meet its product requirements, right?
Speaker #3: So the flight test campaign helps us to gather data on the vehicle behavior and flight, on the behavior of the systems, for example. So one example, how the temperature of the battery behaves during flights, right?
Speaker #3: So with that, we can go back to the supplier and use this information to make sure that what they are developing will lead the E100 to meet its product goals.
Speaker #3: So the way that the interaction is going now is to make sure that, again, their products will lead us to reach our targets and the flight test data helps us to bring more clarity and more confidence on the data that we are exchanging with them.
Speaker #3: So based on this, we are moving forward to finalizing their design of the systems and again, making sure that it all integrates in a way that will satisfy the E100 goals.
Speaker #3: And once we are done with that, then we can go ahead and release the drawings for the manufacturing and then manufacture the production prototypes.
Speaker #3: So that's how the, let's say, the connection is with the flight test campaign and what we expect to do once we're past this phase.
Speaker #4: Thank you. That's helpful.
Speaker #2: The next question is from André Midridge from BTIG. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Yeah, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask a bit more about the binding orders. At the end of the year, could you maybe just point to what dollar figure would be binding orders?
Speaker #1: Have to be for you to call it really a successful year? How many of what's in backlog right now would you have to convert to binding to?
Speaker #5: Thanks, André. Yeah, the binding orders, we have two. Right now, the first one is Rivo with 50 aircraft, up to 50 aircraft firm. And we also have AirX, right?
Speaker #5: Same type of operation for both customers. Yeah, as you can also see, it's a 500 million under binding agreement right now. There's some PDPs actually associated to it.
Speaker #5: There are some milestone associated to also the product development. And then this is how we've been setting up the whole deal. Now, we need to move the right time.
Speaker #5: As you understand, since it's going to be a high utilization aircraft and based also on the safety level and standard and of commercial aviation, this is what we are doing, strong from our experience.
Speaker #5: There are some commitment that they expect from the vehicle. And as we move, the testing campaign and the conforming prototype also certification, then we'll define a bit better with the customers.
Speaker #5: How it's going to work and how the operation will be.
Speaker #1: Got it. Got it. And if I could follow up on that, you mentioned the PDPs. I know you guys don't usually guide this, but is there any more colors you could point to as to the cadence of that flowing in?
Speaker #3: Yeah, it's a do here. In terms of down payments, right, as we sign the binding agreements, we already receive an initial down payment. And we expect that those down payments will continue 18, 12, 6 months prior to the delivery.
Speaker #3: And in total, we're anticipating we can receive up to 30 or 40 percent of the total value of the vehicle before the delivery. And then receive the balance at the delivery.
Speaker #5: Very similar to what the industry, right, is used to at between the commercial aviation or executive aviation.
Speaker #1: Got it. Very helpful. Thank you, gentlemen. I'll leave it there.
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Thank you.
Speaker #2: The next question is from Austin Mueller from Canada Card Unity. Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Hi, good morning, Johan. How are you doing, Lucio? Just my first question on Vector. Is that being actively evaluated by ANAC for approval? And can that be integrated immediately into Brazil's national airspace system once your aircraft are delivered to customers for the first time?
Speaker #5: Yeah, thank you, Austin. For your question, yeah, Vector is definitely part of the ecosystem that and the solution that we're providing for our customers.
Speaker #5: Obviously, it comes with module. Just like for the air traffic management, and we can start today, the urban air mobility operation. Using the current air traffic management system in place, the idea is as we're going to be scaling up, then we will need to have a really robust solution, eventually.
Speaker #5: And when we say we, it's not necessarily Eve, it's we're talking about the aerospace industry. It's going to be we're talking about thousands, hundreds and thousands of vehicles, whether it's drone, whether they're low altitude, space, airspace.
Speaker #5: So that's something it's a journey. It goes along with the scale of the UAM. And the first module is really focused on how to manage your third port, right, or helipad, still, because our strategy is to start today, as a matter of fact, we deliver the first module to Rivo.
Speaker #5: And they already tested it at the Grand Prix of São Paulo end of last year. And it was successful. And then we're going to go at a fleet level and then we go for a certifiable software together with ANAC and DCI, as a matter of fact, who takes care of the flying of the air traffic management in Brazil, right?
Speaker #5: Our experience on Vector, we have a strong DNA and a strong right to play as I'd like to remind everyone that the software company that actually developed the air traffic management that is used in Brazil to control the whole airspace in Brazil is actually come from ATEC.
Speaker #5: It's a fully owned company from Embraer. And we're developing Vector together with them.
Speaker #6: Okay. And if we think about the production schedule for the certification prototypes, I understand there will be one finished by the end of the year, but how should we think about the cadence of how many will be produced between now and 2028?
So, I think you say, we will finish the prototypes know, we'll start assembling the the, uh, the Prototype. And then, we'll finish up, you know, probably uh, uh, the first, uh, semester next year. And then we're looking at, you know, the first fly which I think it's very important milestone for conforming, prototype certification is the first flag with the pilot on board. And uh, so where we're looking at, you know, mid next year for the uh, early second semester for the first flight of that prototype. And then we will be producing and delivering, uh, more or less once every you know, once a month afterwards up to 6 prototype.
Awesome. Congratulations on all the progress.
Thank you, Austin.
The next question is from Marcela Mota from JP Morgan. Please go ahead.
Hey, hi everyone. Uh, just to follow up here, uh, the first 1, we look at the release in the 4 quarter. You were talking about like a 21 million, uh, deferral payment to Empire and this quarter, this was converted into 11 million. So, I'm just wondering if this 10 million difference, you know, it's for next quarter or or if, you know, there was some Readjustment
And on the amount. And the second question is regarding the test campaign. Uh, you mentioned to try to get to 300 testing flights this year, just wondering if this is still the level or you know, what are you expecting in terms of maybe number of testing or hours in the air, you know, whatever you can share with us. Thank you.
How are you? I do here in terms of the, the accounts payable you. You're correct, right? Uh, we we closed last year with, uh, 21 million that were supposed to be paid in fourth quarter.
We paid 11, actually, we paid the whole 21, but then, on the invoices of the first quarter, there was 10 that sleep to the right. So, we, we pretty much recover more than half of what was
Um, you know, a a carryover from last year.
But uh your your math is is correct.
Hey, Ma this is Louis Valentini with respect to the number of flights? Uh, yes, we are still considering the 300 flights as a reference for the test campaign of the engineering prototype. Uh, of course, this is flexible as we met, you know, decide to test more things. So maybe we have modifications on the vehicle. For example, we want to try to test, for example, different, propellers or different lifters, things like that. So the vehicle allows us to do that. So there is, there's a lot of flexibility on the The Campaign but 300 the 300
Flights. We are considering that is the the number of flights that allows us to bring the knowledge that we need for the development of the E100 and also to progress with the expansion of the envelope as we have mentioned. So, uh, we believe that with that campaign, we can demonstrate the the vehicle and its characteristics. And also we can bring the knowledge to the development of the even 100 uh in time uh as we've been mentioning for the production of the production, prototypes for the manufacturing of the production prototypes, right? But keep in mind that this number is is a reference and and we may change it as we progress with the test campaign and decide to test more things if we'd like to.
Perfect. Super clear. Thank you very much.
The next question is from Amit dial from HC Wayne Wright. Please go ahead
Thank you. Uh, good morning, everyone. Uh, just going back to the Embraer. Um, Synergy is this, can you clarify whether this includes technology or Personnel like where are these synergies coming from? Uh, if if you could just maybe clarify that
Yeah, no, that's a good question. I mean, the, you know, it's, um, it's a broad range, right? We're looking, um, a bunch of different things. But, uh, you know, we're, we're looking how we can use existing assets, better, existing facilities, uh, how we can, um, allocate the work between the different teams in a more efficient way. Uh, so, you know, there are different, um,
It came with uh, hundreds of actions, and we are starting to implement that, that's the beauty, right of being part of, um, a big group as in Brier when you start to look things in more details and, uh, and we bring everybody together. You are able to identify gains and synergies that, uh, you know, you're you're not seen before. So that's pretty much what we're doing. We mapped this 100250 to incorporate, uh, to capture right in in 3 years. Uh, and uh, you know, we are now moving forward with the plan.
Okay, just to follow up on that I do. Um, will this impact more on the sgns side or more on the R&D side? Do you think
The cost synergies.
It's uh it's it's both. There's synergies in terms of, uh,
Uh, being more efficient, in the way that we, you know, are going to be assembling the vehicles in the way that we are doing the development being more efficient on the, on the general expenses, more efficient with third-party uh Consultants, right? Third-party service. There's a lot of things I would say, it includes, uh, both Pockets. Now uh, R&D and sgna, right? General expenses. And as I mentioned, also industrialization, right? How we can be more efficient, not only assembling the, uh, the confirming prototypes that are coming, but also on the production going.
For. So there are different uh, areas pockets and uh, it includes both
Okay. Some C is what it looks like. Yes.
That's correct.
Yes, yes, yes. Okay, sorry about this. Yeah, no it's it's uh, you know, I like the question and it's something, you know, it's important to understand that, you know, with an embroiderer and Eve is born as such is, is about the lean philosophy and this something is dear to Embraer. Um, this is in the program that was implemented back in 2007. Now, I think it, it really has to do with it's in the blood of all of the Amber employees. But also, the eververse is uh, looking for, you know, being lean and looking every efficiency, you know that we can, we can bring so, uh, uh, we do it through a whole philosophy, which is called the kaizens and then, you know, we go through, uh, and that's something we do all the time. Uh, and, and, you know, I spent 25 years in Amber are and then we've done it over the last 20 years and it's just amazing how, you know, you keep improving and you keep, you know, working on your efficiency uh at all times. And and this is 1 of the benefits. That also Eve is getting from a being, you know, part of a, the group of Amber.
Yeah it looks definitely like you know a little bit of a Competitive Edge. You guys have versus some of the other players. Um just 1 last 1 for me. Um
On the cost of the aircraft side, right? Roughly it's translating around 5 million per aircraft right now with the numbers you shared
have any inflationary, you know, factors been built into this, you know, um, given sort of these Trends all over the world, where prices have been rising, uh, just wondering curious about like, um, how this may sort of end up in the next few years in terms of
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you know, pricing paragraph.
Yep, I can start here Johan but feel free to chime in the yeah, the the least price is 5 million, right? Um,
We um, as we are progressing on the development of our vehicle, right? We're gaining not only confidence on these specs of the vehicle, right? In terms of range noise, payload and everything. But we are also getting more visibility on the cogs of the vehicle. We believe our vehicle given the the Simplicity, right? And the design, the lift plus G design in the focus on the urban missions. We believe our vehicle is going to be extremely competitive in terms of cogs. Um, we have been working also with our suppliers, right? Of the critical components.
Components to make sure that our cogs you stay within the range that we allow us to sell uh, the vehicle at the 500 list price and be uh, highly profitable. Um, you know, things are going in this direction. Uh,
And uh but we are the whole time challenging uh not only internally ourselves but our suppliers uh to make sure we have um, a lower cost vehicle and how we can leverage right? The supply chain of in Brea and the supply chain that uh, our
Nice thing to do. Yeah. Uh, this is something. How we build our program? Uh, we have the, uh, major systems, uh, you know, covered by the, uh, uh, the suppliers. And this is also what we worked in very big in a, I mean those contracts are lifetime contracts, so we don't look only just to develop the Prototype or the production, but also make sure that the operation is covered to guarantee to our customers that they have a competitive uh, aircraft. So um um, we do have also on those long term and lifetime the life cycle, uh, aircraft contracts, sorry, uh the uh inflation. Also formless that allows us to control uh all this and and including the aftermarket. So uh so this is something that we have a good visibility. We brought you know, from member also experience and uh,
And then we're comfortable with what we, uh, we have and our 5 million dollar, uh vehicle.
Understood guys, thank you for all the color. I appreciate it. That's all I have.
Thank you.
There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the floor back over to leeseo aldworth for closing comments.
All right, thank you, Sachi. And, uh, everyone who joined the call today. Uh, as you can see, we have coverage, several important Milestones, this, uh, this past quarter, there's much more to come and our upcoming achievements, will be more visible to the investment Community from now on. Uh, so this going to be very exciting. Next few months for ease as a whole, we're going to keep you updated on our progress over the next few quarters. And we do look forward to meeting. You in the upcoming events, we're going to attend. If you have any questions as always, please feel free to reach out. Um, thank you and have a good day.
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