Q2 2026 Terrestrial Energy Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Greetings, and welcome to the Terrestrial Energy second quarter 2026 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation.
Operator: Greetings, and welcome to the Terrestrial Energy's second quarter 2026 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Tyler Gronbach, VP, Investor Relations and Public Relations. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: If anyone requires operator assistance during the conference, please press *0 on your telephone keypad. Please note, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Tyler Grombach, VP of Investor Relations and Public Relations.
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Speaker #2: Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Terrestrial Energy's second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. I'm Tyler Grombach, Vice President of Investor Relations and Public Relations.
Tyler Gronbach: Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Terrestrial Energy's second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. I am Tyler Gronbach, Vice President of Investor Relations and Public Relations. Joining me today are Simon Irish, Chief Executive Officer, and Brian Thrasher, Chief Financial Officer. Simon will begin with a review of our strategic and operational progress during the quarter, and Brian will follow with a discussion of our financial results. We will then open the call for questions. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that we have posted the quarterly results press release and summary slides to the investor relations section of our website at terrestrialenergy.com. I would also like to remind you that today's discussion will include forward-looking statements about our business, operations, and financial outlook. These statements are based on management's current expectations and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially.
Tyler Gronbach: Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Terrestrial Energy's second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. I am Tyler Gronbach, Vice President of Investor Relations and Public Relations. Joining me today are Simon Irish, Chief Executive Officer, and Brian Thrasher, Chief Financial Officer. Simon will begin with a review of our strategic and operational progress during the quarter, and Brian will follow with a discussion of our financial results. We will then open the call for questions. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that we have posted the quarterly results press release and summary slides to the investor relations section of our website at terrestrialenergy.com. I would also like to remind you that today's discussion will include forward-looking statements about our business, operations, and financial outlook. These statements are based on management's current expectations and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially.
Speaker #2: Joining me today are Simon Irish, Chief Executive Officer, and Brian Thrasher, Chief Financial Officer. Simon will begin with a review of our strategic and operational progress during the quarter and Brian will follow with a discussion of our financial results.
Speaker #2: We will then open the call for questions. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that we have posted the quarterly results press release and summary slides to the investor relations section of our website at terrestrialenergy.com.
Speaker #2: I'd also like to remind you that today's discussion will include forward-looking statements about our business, operations, and financial outlook. These statements are based on management's current expectations and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially.
Speaker #2: We encourage you to review the risk factors described in our SEC filings for a more complete discussion of those risks. With that, I'll turn the call over to Simon.
Tyler Gronbach: We encourage you to review the risk factors described in our SEC filings for a more complete discussion of those risks. With that, I will turn the call over to Simon.
Tyler Gronbach: We encourage you to review the risk factors described in our SEC filings for a more complete discussion of those risks. With that, I will turn the call over to Simon.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Tyler. And good morning, everyone. When we last spoke in May, I reported progress against the three pillar framework of business plan execution that we set out in March guidance.
Simon Irish: Thank you, Tyler, and good morning, everyone. When we last spoke in May, I reported progress against the three pillar framework of business plan execution that we set out in March guidance. Today, I will do the same for the second quarter and then spend the greater part of my time on our business model and our recent update to unit economics. Brian then will follow with our financial results. Over the past several months, we have been in front of investors more than at any point in the company's history, and that was deliberate. The nuclear tech sector is in a period of secular development. It is still a young and expanding sector for portfolio allocation as the market recognizes the structural long-term bull case for SMRs and nuclear energy supply.
Simon Irish: Thank you, Tyler, and good morning, everyone. When we last spoke in May, I reported progress against the three pillar framework of business plan execution that we set out in March guidance. Today, I will do the same for the second quarter and then spend the greater part of my time on our business model and our recent update to unit economics. Brian then will follow with our financial results. Over the past several months, we have been in front of investors more than at any point in the company's history, and that was deliberate. The nuclear tech sector is in a period of secular development. It is still a young and expanding sector for portfolio allocation as the market recognizes the structural long-term bull case for SMRs and nuclear energy supply.
Speaker #3: Today, I'll do the same for the second quarter and then spend the greater part of my time on our business model and our recent update to Unity Economics.
Speaker #3: Brian then will follow with our financial results. Over the past several months, we've been in front of investors more than to any point in the company's history, and that was deliberate.
Speaker #3: The nuclear tech sector is in a period of secular development. It is still a young and expanding sector for a portfolio allocation, as the market recognizes the structural long-term bull case for SMRs and nuclear energy supply.
Speaker #3: In this context, we're hearing a strong desire to understand the factors that differentiate nuclear plant designs and nuclear technology regulatory and supply chain strategies and business models.
Simon Irish: In this context, we are hearing a strong desire to understand the factors that differentiate nuclear plant designs, nuclear technology, regulatory and supply chain strategies, and business models. We understand the importance of this to investors' analysis for nuclear tech stocks. During this call, we will be discussing some of the unique factors that strongly position Terrestrial Energy. I will summarize the five nuclear plant design factors that differentiate the IMSR plant, talk further on our business model, and then our differentiated dual supply strategy. All this differentiation is in pursuit of one aim, the mission set by the company at its founding in 2013 to use nuclear innovation to solve the only problem worth solving with private capital, the affordability and capital efficiency of nuclear plant, and by extension, the cost of nuclear power. Solve that problem quickly and at scale.
Simon Irish: In this context, we are hearing a strong desire to understand the factors that differentiate nuclear plant designs, nuclear technology, regulatory and supply chain strategies, and business models. We understand the importance of this to investors' analysis for nuclear tech stocks. During this call, we will be discussing some of the unique factors that strongly position Terrestrial Energy. I will summarize the five nuclear plant design factors that differentiate the IMSR plant, talk further on our business model, and then our differentiated dual supply strategy. All this differentiation is in pursuit of one aim, the mission set by the company at its founding in 2013 to use nuclear innovation to solve the only problem worth solving with private capital, the affordability and capital efficiency of nuclear plant, and by extension, the cost of nuclear power. Solve that problem quickly and at scale.
Speaker #3: We understand the importance of this to investors' analysis for nuclear tech stocks and during this call we'll be discussing some of the unique factors that strongly position Terrestrial Energy.
Speaker #3: I will summarize the five nuclear plant design factors that differentiate the IMSR plant. Talk further on our business model and then our differentiated fuel supply strategy.
Speaker #3: All this differentiation is in pursuit of one aim: the mission set by the company at its founding in 2013, to use nuclear innovation to solve the only problem worth solving with private capital, the affordability and capital efficiency of nuclear plant, and by extension the cost of nuclear power.
Speaker #3: And solve that problem quickly and at scale. We are differentiated, as everything we do—every decision we have made—points back to that founding problem statement in a clear and logically compelling way.
Simon Irish: We are differentiated as everything we do, every decision we have made points back to that founding problem statement in a clear and logically compelling way. This goal is the first point of differentiation. First, let me now talk through Q2 progress across the three pillars of business plan execution. Referring to slides 4 and 5 of this quarter's investor update, I will start with our engineering and regulation programs. Project TETRA and Project TEFLA, our test reactor and fuel line pilot projects, both in partnership with DOE, advanced in the quarter. TETRA will support the data collection required for the NRC operating license application for the IMSR plant. Project TEFLA will develop the fuel production processes for IMSR Fuel Salt commercial supply. On the regulatory side, on 12 May, the NRC issued its Safety Evaluation Report, approving our topical report on postulated initiating events methodology.
Simon Irish: We are differentiated as everything we do, every decision we have made points back to that founding problem statement in a clear and logically compelling way. This goal is the first point of differentiation. First, let me now talk through Q2 progress across the three pillars of business plan execution. Referring to slides 4 and 5 of this quarter's investor update, I will start with our engineering and regulation programs. Project TETRA and Project TEFLA, our test reactor and fuel line pilot projects, both in partnership with DOE, advanced in the quarter. TETRA will support the data collection required for the NRC operating license application for the IMSR plant. Project TEFLA will develop the fuel production processes for IMSR Fuel Salt commercial supply. On the regulatory side, on 12 May, the NRC issued its Safety Evaluation Report, approving our topical report on postulated initiating events methodology.
Speaker #3: This goal is the first point of differentiation. First, let me now talk through second-quarter progress across the three pillars of business plan execution.
Speaker #3: Referring to slides 4 and 5 of this quarter's investor update, and I will start with our engineering and regulatory programs. Project Tetra and Project Tefla are test reactor and fuel line pilot projects both in partnership with DOE, advanced in the quarter.
Speaker #3: Tetra will support the data collection required for the NRC operating license application for the IMSR plant. Project Tefla will develop the fuel production processes for IMSR fuel salt commercial supply.
Speaker #3: On the regulatory side, on May 12, the NRC issued its safety evaluation report, approving our topical report on postulated initiating events methodology. This follows the previously issued safety evaluation report on IMSR principal design criteria and early development, and a point of differentiation.
Simon Irish: This follows the previously issued Safety Evaluation Report on IMSR Principal Design Criteria and early development and a point of differentiation. As I described during our Q1 earnings call, these approved NRC analyses form foundational elements the IMSR plant's licensing basis and can be referenced in future applications without re-evaluation. Our graphite irradiation testing continued at NRG Petten, one of the world's most powerful test reactors. This work is essential for Terrestrial Energy's reactor materials qualification, licensing readiness, as well as supplier down selection. Over the quarter, we adjusted our NRG testing program, adding further irradiation cycles, which is also evidenced in quarter-on-quarter variances with R&D expenditures. Turning to the second pillar, supply chain developments. Procurement of fuel, components, and services continues for both the TETRA and TEFLA projects.
Simon Irish: This follows the previously issued Safety Evaluation Report on IMSR Principal Design Criteria and early development and a point of differentiation. As I described during our Q1 earnings call, these approved NRC analyses form foundational elements the IMSR plant's licensing basis and can be referenced in future applications without re-evaluation. Our graphite irradiation testing continued at NRG Petten, one of the world's most powerful test reactors. This work is essential for Terrestrial Energy's reactor materials qualification, licensing readiness, as well as supplier down selection. Over the quarter, we adjusted our NRG testing program, adding further irradiation cycles, which is also evidenced in quarter-on-quarter variances with R&D expenditures. Turning to the second pillar, supply chain developments. Procurement of fuel, components, and services continues for both the TETRA and TEFLA projects.
Speaker #3: As I described during our first-quarter earnings call, these approved NRC analyses form foundational elements of the IMSR plant's licensing basis and can be referenced in future applications without re-evaluation.
Speaker #3: Our graphite irradiation testing continued at NRG Patent. One of the world's most powerful test reactors. This work is essential for Terrestrial Energy's reactor materials qualification licensing readiness as well as supplier down selection.
Speaker #3: Over the quarter, we've adjusted our NRG testing program, adding further irradiation cycles, which is also evident in quarter-on-quarter variances with R&D expenditures.
Speaker #3: Turning to the second pillar, supply chain developments. Procurement of fuel components and services continues for both the Tetra and Tefla projects. This quarter, we announced an engineering service agreement with Zachary Nuclear, which supports the development of projects at the Texas A&M Rellis site and importantly the site characterization and data collection work to assemble an NRC construction permit application for the planned commercial IMSR plant on that site.
Simon Irish: This quarter, we announced an engineering service agreement with Zachry Nuclear, which supports the development of projects at the Texas A&M RELLIS site, and importantly, the site characterization and data collection work to assemble an NRC construction permit application for the planned commercial IMSR plant on that site. Turning to the third pillar, our commercial pipeline of IMSR plant projects. In June, we signed a ground lease and research agreements with Texas A&M for exclusive use of a 77-acre site at the RELLIS Campus. This development provides the path to complete site characterization work and environmental evaluations for the IMSR plant and other facilities on the Texas A&M site in advance of construction. In May, we announced a relationship with Riot Platforms to supply electric power for data center operation.
Simon Irish: This quarter, we announced an engineering service agreement with Zachry Nuclear, which supports the development of projects at the Texas A&M RELLIS site, and importantly, the site characterization and data collection work to assemble an NRC construction permit application for the planned commercial IMSR plant on that site. Turning to the third pillar, our commercial pipeline of IMSR plant projects. In June, we signed a ground lease and research agreements with Texas A&M for exclusive use of a 77-acre site at the RELLIS Campus. This development provides the path to complete site characterization work and environmental evaluations for the IMSR plant and other facilities on the Texas A&M site in advance of construction. In May, we announced a relationship with Riot Platforms to supply electric power for data center operation.
Speaker #3: Turning to the third pillar, our commercial pipeline of IMSR plant projects. In June, we signed a ground lease and research agreements with Texas A&M for exclusive use of a 77-acre site at the Rellis campus.
Speaker #3: This development provides the path to complete site characterization work and environmental evaluations for the IMSR plant and other facilities on the Texas A&M site in advance of construction.
Speaker #3: In May, we announced a relationship with Riot Platforms to supply electric power for data center operation. The parties' intention is to develop a best-in-class pairing of a small and modular reactor plant with a large data center, taking advantage of the competitive operating characteristics of the IMSR plant—notably, its capacity to use natural gas as a bridge fuel. Initially, this allows for fast commercial operation and power supply, and then, longer term, serves as a backup after nuclear systems are in operation.
Simon Irish: The parties' intention is to develop a best-in-class pairing of a small and modular reactor plant with a large data center, taking advantage of the competitive operating characteristics of the IMSR plant, notably its capacity to use natural gas as a bridge fuel, initially to deliver fast commercial operation and power supply, and then longer-term, as a backup after nuclear systems are in operation. This arrangement will take advantage of a differentiating feature of the IMSR plant design, namely the ability for its non-nuclear, thermal, and electric facility to be customized. This is not possible with the balance of plant systems tied to light water reactors. Our next step with Riot will be to down select to a first site as part of a program targeting 4 gigawatts of IMSR plant generation in support of Riot data center operations.
Simon Irish: The parties' intention is to develop a best-in-class pairing of a small and modular reactor plant with a large data center, taking advantage of the competitive operating characteristics of the IMSR plant, notably its capacity to use natural gas as a bridge fuel, initially to deliver fast commercial operation and power supply, and then longer-term, as a backup after nuclear systems are in operation. This arrangement will take advantage of a differentiating feature of the IMSR plant design, namely the ability for its non-nuclear, thermal, and electric facility to be customized. This is not possible with the balance of plant systems tied to light water reactors. Our next step with Riot will be to down select to a first site as part of a program targeting 4 gigawatts of IMSR plant generation in support of Riot data center operations.
Speaker #3: This arrangement will take advantage of a differentiating feature of the IMSR plant design, namely the ability for its non-nuclear thermal and electric facility to be customized.
Speaker #3: This is not possible with the balance-of-plant systems tied to light water reactors. Our next step with Riot will be to down-select to a first site as part of a program targeting 4 gigawatts of IMSR plant generation in support of Riot data center operations.
Speaker #3: With the Riot Platform development, the indicative generating capacity of our pipeline of commercial projects grows to 7.8 gigawatts. Given these and other characteristics of the IMSR plant design, our commercial opportunities cover three large market verticals.
Simon Irish: With the Riot Platforms development, the indicative generating capacity of our pipeline of commercial projects grows to 7.8 gigawatts. Given these and other characteristics of the IMSR plant design, our commercial opportunities cover three large market verticals: data centers, industrial process heat, and the replacement of retiring coal plant capacity. I would like now to turn to our updates on unit economics and start with a brief recap of our business model. Referring to slide 6 of this quarter's investor update, Terrestrial Energy does not plan to build, own, or operate IMSR plants. We will leave these activities to others with long-established and recognized industry capabilities in construction and operation. In this respect, our business model is relatively conventional for a reactor developer.
Simon Irish: With the Riot Platforms development, the indicative generating capacity of our pipeline of commercial projects grows to 7.8 gigawatts. Given these and other characteristics of the IMSR plant design, our commercial opportunities cover three large market verticals: data centers, industrial process heat, and the replacement of retiring coal plant capacity. I would like now to turn to our updates on unit economics and start with a brief recap of our business model. Referring to slide 6 of this quarter's investor update, Terrestrial Energy does not plan to build, own, or operate IMSR plants. We will leave these activities to others with long-established and recognized industry capabilities in construction and operation. In this respect, our business model is relatively conventional for a reactor developer.
Speaker #3: Data centers, industrial process heat, and the replacement of retiring coal plant capacity. I would like now to turn to our updates on unit economics and start with a brief recap of our business model.
Speaker #3: Referring to slide 6 of this quarter's investor update, Terrestrial Energy does not plan to build, own, or operate IMSR plants. We will leave these activities to others.
Speaker #3: With long established and recognized industry capabilities in construction and operation. In this respect, our business model is relatively conventional for a reactor developer. From this position, we can operate a capital-like business model.
Simon Irish: From this position, we can operate a capital-light business model, allocating capital efficiently to build high-margin businesses where we have a competitive and defendable advantage, and typically based on proprietary IP concentration and production capabilities. With additional engineering work over the last 12 months and directed at projects such as TEFLA, we have updated and re-estimated our IMSR plant unit economics, and by extension, our serviceable addressable market. Our business is to manufacture and supply to operating plants IMSR Core-units and major reactant components, and designed to be replaced every 7 years over the plant's 56-year design life. This implies the supply of 16 IMSR Core-units or accumulative revenues of approximately CAD 1.6 billion. The IMSR Core-unit contains the foundational IP of our company, an innovation that unleashes the extraordinary industrial potential of molten salt reactor technology.
Simon Irish: From this position, we can operate a capital-light business model, allocating capital efficiently to build high-margin businesses where we have a competitive and defendable advantage, and typically based on proprietary IP concentration and production capabilities. With additional engineering work over the last 12 months and directed at projects such as TEFLA, we have updated and re-estimated our IMSR plant unit economics, and by extension, our serviceable addressable market. Our business is to manufacture and supply to operating plants IMSR Core-units and major reactant components, and designed to be replaced every 7 years over the plant's 56-year design life. This implies the supply of 16 IMSR Core-units or accumulative revenues of approximately CAD 1.6 billion. The IMSR Core-unit contains the foundational IP of our company, an innovation that unleashes the extraordinary industrial potential of molten salt reactor technology.
Speaker #3: Allocating capital efficiently to build high-margin businesses where we have a competitive and defendable advantage and typically based on proprietary IP concentration and production capabilities.
Speaker #3: With additional engineering work over the last 12 months, directed at projects such as TEFLA, we have updated and re-estimated our IMSR plant unit economics, and by extension, our serviceable addressable market.
Speaker #3: Our business is to manufacture and supply to operating plants IMSR core units and major reactor components, and these are designed to be replaced every seven years over the plant's 56-year design life. This implies the supply of 16 IMSR core units, or cumulative revenues of approximately $1.6 billion.
Speaker #3: The IMSR coal unit contains the foundational IP of our company and innovation that unleashes the extraordinary industrial potential of molten salt reactor technology. Our IMSR fuel salt supply business will capture proprietary expertise enabled now by TEFLA and other innovations.
Simon Irish: Our IMSR Fuel Salt supply business will capture proprietary expertise enabled now by TEFLA and other innovations. Both qualify as principal businesses, because each combines concentrated proprietary IP with proprietary production capabilities. On slide 6, you will note that estimated cumulative lifetime revenues per unit are now CAD 2.7 billion, up from CAD 2.1 billion, with a blended gross profit margin of 33%, up from 22% in our prior model. Of those revenues, 79% occur following the construction of the plant and will be secured through long-dated supply contracts for the periodic replacement of the Core-units and regular fuel salt supply. The dominant activity at 58% of total revenues is Core-unit supply, with fuel salt supply being 21%. These businesses will drive most of the value creation in our future business.
Simon Irish: Our IMSR Fuel Salt supply business will capture proprietary expertise enabled now by TEFLA and other innovations. Both qualify as principal businesses, because each combines concentrated proprietary IP with proprietary production capabilities. On slide 6, you will note that estimated cumulative lifetime revenues per unit are now CAD 2.7 billion, up from CAD 2.1 billion, with a blended gross profit margin of 33%, up from 22% in our prior model. Of those revenues, 79% occur following the construction of the plant and will be secured through long-dated supply contracts for the periodic replacement of the Core-units and regular fuel salt supply. The dominant activity at 58% of total revenues is Core-unit supply, with fuel salt supply being 21%. These businesses will drive most of the value creation in our future business.
Speaker #3: Both qualify as principal businesses because each combines concentrated proprietary IP with proprietary production capabilities. On slide 6, you will note that estimated cumulative lifetime revenues per unit are now 2.7 billion up from 2.1 billion with a blended gross profit margin of 33% up from 22% in our prior model.
Speaker #3: Of those revenues, 79% occur following the construction of the plant and will be secured through long dated supply contracts for the periodic replacement of the coal units and regular fuel salt supply.
Speaker #3: The dominant activity, at 58% of total revenues, is coal unit supply, with fuel salt supply accounting for 21%. These businesses will drive most of the value creation in our future business.
Speaker #3: Our review of unit economics included a re-estimation of gross profit margins for the coal unit and fuel supply businesses to 33% and 40%, respectively.
Simon Irish: Our review of unit economics included a re-estimation of gross profit margins for the Core-unit and fuel supply businesses to 33% and 40% respectively, higher than the margins for pre-construction and construction services. This further points to the dominance of these two principal businesses. We expect to announce developments in the coming quarters as we move forward with our programs to build these two important supply businesses with their production facilities. Referring to slide 7, the updated unit revenue estimates have increased our serviceable addressable market to CAD 2.3 trillion by 2050, up from CAD 1.9 trillion, a CAD 400 billion increase. This reflects the market that our plant design and supply businesses are built to serve at scale. I want to spend a few moments on our fuel strategy and development of IMSR Fuel Salt supply.
Simon Irish: Our review of unit economics included a re-estimation of gross profit margins for the Core-unit and fuel supply businesses to 33% and 40% respectively, higher than the margins for pre-construction and construction services. This further points to the dominance of these two principal businesses. We expect to announce developments in the coming quarters as we move forward with our programs to build these two important supply businesses with their production facilities. Referring to slide 7, the updated unit revenue estimates have increased our serviceable addressable market to CAD 2.3 trillion by 2050, up from CAD 1.9 trillion, a CAD 400 billion increase. This reflects the market that our plant design and supply businesses are built to serve at scale. I want to spend a few moments on our fuel strategy and development of IMSR Fuel Salt supply.
Speaker #3: Higher than the margins for pre-construction and construction services and this further points to the dominance of these two principal businesses. We expect to announce developments in the coming quarters as we move forward with our programs to build these two important supply businesses with their production facilities.
Speaker #3: Referring to slide 7, the updated unit revenue estimates have increased our serviceable addressable market to $2.3 trillion by 2050, up from $1.9 trillion — a $400 billion increase.
Speaker #3: This reflects the market that our plant design and supply businesses are built to serve at scale. I want to spend a few moments on our fuel strategy and the development of IMSR fuel salt supply.
Speaker #3: As an overview, this is one of the most differentiated and underappreciated parts of the IMSR plant story—referring to slide 8. Conventional nuclear fuel production can be represented as a three-step process.
Simon Irish: As in our view, this is one of the most differentiated and underappreciated parts of the IMSR plant story. Referring to slide 8, conventional nuclear fuel production can be represented as a three-step process. First, the production of the isotopic form of the fuel, whether LEU, HALEU, or even plutonium. Second, the production of the chemical form of the fuel, whether oxide, fluoride, or metallic forms. Third, the production of the physical form of the fuel, whether complex fuel in reactor assemblies or complex TRISO fuel elements. Each of these three steps requires a physical and discrete plant that has to be built, licensed, and operated. For many novel fuel forms today, this requires the construction and operation of three new plants, one for each step.
Simon Irish: As in our view, this is one of the most differentiated and underappreciated parts of the IMSR plant story. Referring to slide 8, conventional nuclear fuel production can be represented as a three-step process. First, the production of the isotopic form of the fuel, whether LEU, HALEU, or even plutonium. Second, the production of the chemical form of the fuel, whether oxide, fluoride, or metallic forms. Third, the production of the physical form of the fuel, whether complex fuel in reactor assemblies or complex TRISO fuel elements. Each of these three steps requires a physical and discrete plant that has to be built, licensed, and operated. For many novel fuel forms today, this requires the construction and operation of three new plants, one for each step.
Speaker #3: First, the production of the isotopic form of the fuel, whether LEU, HALU, or even plutonium. Second, the production of the chemical form of the fuel, whether oxide, fluoride, or metallic forms.
Speaker #3: And third, the production of the physical form of the fuel whether complex fuel pin reactor assemblies or complex triso fuel elements. Each of these three steps requires a physical and discrete plant.
Speaker #3: It has to be built, licensed, and operated. For many novel fuel forms today, this requires the construction and operation of three new plants—one for each step.
Speaker #3: In contrast to virtually all other SMRs, in the nuclear tech sector today, whether those using generation 3 or 4 technologies IMSR fuel salt production stopped at step 2.
Simon Irish: In contrast to virtually all other SMRs in the nuclear tech sector today, whether those using Generation III or IV technologies, IMSR Fuel Salt production stops at step 2. This is an important point of differentiation. As the IMSR is a molten salt reactor, a liquid-fueled reactor, rather than a solid-fueled reactor, its fuel does not have a physical form factor, so no step 3. The reactor fuel feed to IMSR plants is in the form of powdered output from the chemical production process from step 2, which in our case, involves the fluorinated form of uranium and the addition of fluoride carrier salts under a tightly confined production process to create the IMSR Fuel Salt, a powder.
Simon Irish: In contrast to virtually all other SMRs in the nuclear tech sector today, whether those using Generation III or IV technologies, IMSR Fuel Salt production stops at step two. This is an important point of differentiation. As the IMSR is a molten salt reactor, a liquid-fueled reactor, rather than a solid-fueled reactor, its fuel does not have a physical form factor, so no step 3. The reactor fuel feed to IMSR plants is in the form of powdered output from the chemical production process from step 2, which in our case, involves the fluorinated form of uranium and the addition of fluoride carrier salts under a tightly confined production process to create the IMSR Fuel Salt, a powder.
Speaker #3: This is an important point of differentiation. As the IMSR is a molten salt reactor—a liquid-fueled reactor rather than a solid-fueled reactor—this fuel does not have a physical form factor.
Speaker #3: So, no step 3. The reactor fuel feed to IMSR plants is in the form of powdered output from the chemical production process from step 2.
Speaker #3: Which in our case involves the fluorinated form of uranium and the addition of fluoride. Carrier salts. Under a tightly compliant production process to create the IMSR fuel salt a powder.
Speaker #3: This approach, therefore, avoids the very considerable risk, cost, and complexity of step 3, and further points to a strong, scalable, and relatively capital-light, inexpensive fuel supply chain to support IMSR plant operation at scale.
Simon Irish: This approach therefore avoids the very considerable risk, cost, and complexity of step 3, and further points to a strong, scalable, and relatively capital-light, inexpensive fuel supply chain to support IMSR plant operation at fleet scale. I would like to draw attention again to the first step, the isotopic step, where we chose many years ago to use the long-established isotopic standard for civilian reactor fuel, LEU, enriched to less than 5%. This avoids the costs, uncertainties, and complexity of HALEU chosen by other Generation IV reactor developers, and the more complex and costly regulatory requirements that cascade sequentially into steps 2 and 3 of the fuel production process. While we rely on the industry's common isotopic form for our fuel, we have been working with Westinghouse on supply of the required chemical form, enriched uranium tetrafluoride.
Simon Irish: This approach therefore avoids the very considerable risk, cost, and complexity of step 3, and further points to a strong, scalable, and relatively capital-light, inexpensive fuel supply chain to support IMSR plant operation at fleet scale. I would like to draw attention again to the first step, the isotopic step, where we chose many years ago to use the long-established isotopic standard for civilian reactor fuel, LEU, enriched to less than 5%. This avoids the costs, uncertainties, and complexity of HALEU chosen by other Generation IV reactor developers, and the more complex and costly regulatory requirements that cascade sequentially into steps 2 and 3 of the fuel production process. While we rely on the industry's common isotopic form for our fuel, we have been working with Westinghouse on supply of the required chemical form, enriched uranium tetrafluoride.
Speaker #3: I would like to draw attention again to the first step—the isotopic step—where we chose, many years ago, to use the long-established isotopic standard for civilian reactor fuel: LEU enriched to less than 5%.
Speaker #3: This avoids the costs uncertainties and complexity of HALU chosen by other generation 4 reactor developers. And the more complex and costly regulatory requirements that cascade sequentially into steps 2 and 3 of the fuel production process.
Speaker #3: While we rely on the industry's common isotopic form for our fuel, we've been working with Westinghouse on the supply of the required chemical form—enriched uranium tetrafluoride.
Speaker #3: With this arrangement, Terrestrial Energy has one plant to build to complete step 2, with a production process now catalyzed by Tefla. Our fuel pilot project is in partnership with the DOE and supported by Westinghouse supply.
Simon Irish: With this arrangement, Terrestrial Energy has one plant to build, a plant to complete step 2. With the production process now catalyzed by TEFLA, our fuel pilot project in partnership with EWI and supported by Westinghouse supply, we are heavily differentiated with this fuel supply strategy. In addition to our fuel supply differentiator, unmatched in the nuclear tech sector of advanced reactors, we have five foundational nuclear plant and reactor technology differentiators. Referring now to slide 10. First, our plant is small and right-sized at 390 megawatt electric. For the market opportunity for financeable and near and co-located power generation, the IMSR plant is one-sixth the size of conventional nuclear plant. Next, the IMSR plant's nuclear systems operate with a high energy density, enabling the design to capture the benefits of modular construction that are not possible with other Generation IV reactor technologies.
Simon Irish: With this arrangement, Terrestrial Energy has one plant to build, a plant to complete step two. With the production process now catalyzed by TEFLA, our fuel pilot project in partnership with EWI and supported by Westinghouse supply, we are heavily differentiated with this fuel supply strategy. In addition to our fuel supply differentiator, unmatched in the nuclear tech sector of advanced reactors, we have five foundational nuclear plant and reactor technology differentiators. Referring now to slide 10. First, our plant is small and right-sized at 390 megawatt electric. For the market opportunity for financeable and near and co-located power generation, the IMSR plant is one-sixth the size of conventional nuclear plant. Next, the IMSR plant's nuclear systems operate with a high energy density, enabling the design to capture the benefits of modular construction that are not possible with other Generation IV reactor technologies.
Speaker #3: We are heavily differentiated with this fuel supply strategy. In addition to our fuel supply differentiator, unmatched in the nuclear tech sector of advanced reactors, we have five foundational nuclear plant and reactor technology differentiators.
Speaker #3: Referring now to slide 10. First, our plant is small and right-sized at 390 megawatts electric, for the market opportunity for financeable and near and co-located power generation.
Speaker #3: The IMSR plant is one-sixth the size of a conventional nuclear plant. Next, the IMSR plant's nuclear systems operate with a high energy density, enabling the design to capture the benefits of modular construction that are not possible with other Generation 4 reactor technologies.
Speaker #3: This facilitates the powerful efficiencies of factory production of modular components for swift onsite assembly. However, a differentiation does not stop here. Referring now to slide 11.
Simon Irish: This facilitates the powerful efficiencies of factory production of modular components for swift on-site assembly. However, our differentiation does not stop here. Referring now to slide 11. The heart of our plant is a nuclear technology that offers a triple operating advantage, critical for economic performance and capital efficiency that we seek to deliver. Our MSR plant supplies thermal energy at a best-in-class temperature of 585 degrees Celsius. Its nuclear systems operate at low pressure and with a high level of inherent safety that can only be delivered using molten salt reactor technology. These are powerful economic virtues that must not be ignored. This triple operating advantage differentiates our reactor technology in the nuclear tech sector.
Simon Irish: This facilitates the powerful efficiencies of factory production of modular components for swift on-site assembly. However, our differentiation does not stop here. Referring now to slide 11. The heart of our plant is a nuclear technology that offers a triple operating advantage, critical for economic performance and capital efficiency that we seek to deliver. Our MSR plant supplies thermal energy at a best-in-class temperature of 585 degrees Celsius. Its nuclear systems operate at low pressure and with a high level of inherent safety that can only be delivered using molten salt reactor technology. These are powerful economic virtues that must not be ignored. This triple operating advantage differentiates our reactor technology in the nuclear tech sector.
Speaker #3: The heart of our plant is a nuclear technology that offers a triple operating advantage—critical for the economic performance and capital efficiency that we seek to deliver.
Speaker #3: The IMSR plant supplies thermal energy at a best-in-class temperature of 585 degrees Celsius. Its nuclear systems operate at low pressure and with a high level of inherent safety that can only be delivered using molten salt reactor technology.
Speaker #3: These are powerful economic virtues that must not be ignored. This triple operating advantage differentiates our reactor technology and nuclear tech sector. Together these five factors are what allow us to achieve our mission and bring to the market the most capital efficient plant in the SMR sector and with our fuel supply strategy to do it quickly and at scale.
Simon Irish: Together, these five factors are what allow us to achieve our mission and bring to the market the most capital-efficient plant in the SMR sector, and with our fuel supply strategy to do it quickly and at scale, as shown on slide 12. To close, in March, we set guidance for the year and across the three pillars of business plan execution. We are pleased with our progress this quarter against our benchmark. We have observed high sector and factor volatility in equity markets over recent months. However, our experiences are that the structural bull market for nuclear power with SMR innovations is solid, secular, and is growing. Against this demand, we will be deploying the most capital-efficient plant in the SMR sector today. We recognize that the road ahead is one of program execution and traveled through the development of competitive skills and capabilities. Referring now to slide 14.
Simon Irish: Together, these five factors are what allow us to achieve our mission and bring to the market the most capital-efficient plant in the SMR sector, and with our fuel supply strategy to do it quickly and at scale, as shown on slide 12. To close, in March, we set guidance for the year and across the three pillars of business plan execution. We are pleased with our progress this quarter against our benchmark. We have observed high sector and factor volatility in equity markets over recent months. However, our experiences are that the structural bull market for nuclear power with SMR innovations is solid, secular, and is growing. Against this demand, we will be deploying the most capital-efficient plant in the SMR sector today. We recognize that the road ahead is one of program execution and traveled through the development of competitive skills and capabilities. Referring now to slide 14.
Speaker #3: As shown on slide 12. To close in March we set guidance for the year and across the three pillars of business plan execution. We're pleased with our progress this quarter against our benchmark.
Speaker #3: We have observed high sector and factor volatility in equity markets over recent months. However, our experience is that the structural bull market for nuclear power, with SMR innovations, is solidly secular and is growing.
Speaker #3: Against this demand we'll be deploying the most capital efficient plant in the SMR sector today. We recognize that the road ahead is one of program execution and traveled through the development of competitive skills and capabilities.
Speaker #3: Referring now to slide 14. During the quarter, we continued to expand our organization. On July 29, we announced the addition of Pam Cohen as Executive Vice President of Engineering.
Simon Irish: During the quarter, we continued to expand our organization. On 29 July, we announced the addition of Pam Cowan as Executive Vice President of Engineering. Pam joined us with more than 35 years experience in the commercial nuclear sector, including senior leadership positions at Westinghouse and Holtec. Concurrently, Kathryn McCarthy joined our board of directors. Kathryn has a career in major projects in nuclear technology development at Idaho National Laboratory, Oak Ridge National Laboratory, and other world-leading national labs. Most recently, she was Associate Lab Director of Fusion and Fission Energy at Oak Ridge, and currently she is responsible for the overall management of the United States participation in ITER, the 27-nation international and benchmark fusion reactor project in France. We are pleased to be reporting this progress over the quarter and to be providing these updates.
Simon Irish: During the quarter, we continued to expand our organization. On 29 July, we announced the addition of Pam Cowan as Executive Vice President of Engineering. Pam joined us with more than 35 years experience in the commercial nuclear sector, including senior leadership positions at Westinghouse and Holtec. Concurrently, Kathryn McCarthy joined our board of directors. Kathryn has a career in major projects in nuclear technology development at Idaho National Laboratory, Oak Ridge National Laboratory, and other world-leading national labs. Most recently, she was Associate Lab Director of Fusion and Fission Energy at Oak Ridge, and currently she is responsible for the overall management of the United States participation in ITER, the 27-nation international and benchmark fusion reactor project in France. We are pleased to be reporting this progress over the quarter and to be providing these updates.
Speaker #3: PAM joined us with more than 35 years experience in the commercial nuclear sector including senior leadership positions at Westinghouse and Holtech. Concurrently Kathy McCarthy joined our board of directors.
Speaker #3: Kathy has a career in major projects in nuclear technology development at Idaho National Lab, Oak Ridge National Lab, and other world-leading national labs. Most recently, she was associate lab director of fusion and fission energy at Oak Ridge, and currently she is responsible for the overall management of the United States' participation in ITER.
Speaker #3: The 27 nation international and benchmark fusion reactor project in France. We're pleased to be reporting this progress over the quarter. And to be providing these updates.
Speaker #3: With that I will turn the call over to Brian Thrasher. Our chief financial officer to review our financial results.
Simon Irish: With that, I will turn the call over to Brian Thrasher, our Chief Financial Officer, to review our financial results.
Simon Irish: With that, I will turn the call over to Brian Thrasher, our Chief Financial Officer, to review our financial results.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Simon. Good morning, everyone. Turning to the financials, and consistent with last quarter, I will present on a sequential basis, comparing to the first quarter of 2026, as this comparison is more informative given the transformation in the business in 2025.
Brian Thrasher: Thank you, Simon, and good morning, everyone. Turning to the financials, consistent with last quarter, I will present on a sequential basis comparing to Q1 2026, as this comparison is more informative given the transformation in the business in 2025. The theme this quarter continues to be disciplined spend aligned to our programs and a clean balance sheet. As summarized on slide 16, at quarter end, we have total cash equivalents, and short and long-term investments of CAD 283.4 million. This compares to CAD 289.9 million at the end of Q1. Cash burn for the quarter was CAD 6.4 million, or approximately CAD 2.2 million per month. This compares to cash burn of CAD 7.9 million for Q1 2026, approximately CAD 2.6 million per month.
Brian Thrasher: Thank you, Simon, and good morning, everyone. Turning to the financials, consistent with last quarter, I will present on a sequential basis comparing to Q1 2026, as this comparison is more informative given the transformation in the business in 2025. The theme this quarter continues to be disciplined spend aligned to our programs and a clean balance sheet. As summarized on slide 16, at quarter end, we have total cash equivalents, and short and long-term investments of CAD 283.4 million. This compares to CAD 289.9 million at the end of Q1. Cash burn for the quarter was CAD 6.4 million, or approximately CAD 2.2 million per month. This compares to cash burn of CAD 7.9 million for Q1 2026, approximately CAD 2.6 million per month.
Speaker #2: The theme this quarter continues to be disciplined spend aligned to our programs and a clean balance sheet. As summarized on slide 16, at quarter end we have total cash, cash equivalents, and short- and long-term investments of $283.4 million.
Speaker #2: This compares to $289.9 million at the end of the first quarter. Cash burned for the quarter was $6.4 million, or approximately $2.2 million per month.
Speaker #2: This compares to cash burn of 7.9 million dollars for the first quarter of 2026 approximately 2.6 million dollars per month. The decline largely reflects a shift in the timing of some testing activities and I will provide additional color during my update.
Brian Thrasher: The decline largely reflects a shift in the timing of some testing activities, and I will provide additional color during my update. Looking ahead, we expect our cash burn will increase during the H2 of the year. Our agreement with Texas A&M for the RELLIS land leases has allowed us to work on the final stages of site analysis and characterization work, and that spend is now underway. This is consistent with the guidance we gave in Q1. Cash burn would increase through calendar 2026 as we scale testing programs, project activities, and expand our organizational capabilities. I'll now turn to operating expenses. Research and development expenses were down approximately CAD 1.1 million quarter on quarter. This is related to timing and scope variances on some key tests, notably the addition of three graphite irradiation cycles at the NRG Petten test reactor.
Brian Thrasher: The decline largely reflects a shift in the timing of some testing activities, and I will provide additional color during my update. Looking ahead, we expect our cash burn will increase during the H2 of the year. Our agreement with Texas A&M for the RELLIS land leases has allowed us to work on the final stages of site analysis and characterization work, and that spend is now underway. This is consistent with the guidance we gave in Q1. Cash burn would increase through calendar 2026 as we scale testing programs, project activities, and expand our organizational capabilities. I'll now turn to operating expenses. Research and development expenses were down approximately CAD 1.1 million quarter on quarter. This is related to timing and scope variances on some key tests, notably the addition of three graphite irradiation cycles at the NRG Petten test reactor.
Speaker #2: Looking ahead, we expect our cash burn will increase during the second half of the year. Our agreement with Texas A&M for the RELLIS land leases has allowed us to work on the final stages of site analysis and characterization work.
Speaker #2: And that spend is now underway. This is consistent with the guidance we gave in the first quarter. Cash burn will increase through calendar 2026 as we scale testing programs, project activities, and expand our organizational capabilities.
Speaker #2: I'll now turn to operating expenses. Research and development expenses were down approximately 1.1 million dollars quarter on quarter. This is related to timing and scope variances on some key tests notably the addition of three graphite irradiation cycles at the NRG PETN test reactor.
Speaker #2: We have also elected to build a greater irradiation and materials knowledge base in-house, which further contributed to the decreased spending sequentially. General and administrative expenses were up approximately $700,000 quarter on quarter.
Brian Thrasher: We have also elected to build a greater irradiation and materials knowledge base in-house, which further contributed to the decreased spending sequentially. General and administrative expenses were up approximately CAD 700,000 quarter on quarter. The majority of this increase was from stock-based compensation, which increased by CAD 500,000. These increases were driven by headcount growth as we scale organizational capacity to support our programs. Turning to our capitalization table, as shown on slide 17. The issued and outstanding share count was unchanged during Q2 2026. The fully diluted share count increased modestly by approximately 300,000 shares in the quarter due to stock option grants I previously mentioned. In summary, cash equivalents, and cash investments make up the vast majority of our assets. We have modest current liabilities and lease obligations, combined with no debt. Our balance sheet remains simple and clean.
Brian Thrasher: We have also elected to build a greater irradiation and materials knowledge base in-house, which further contributed to the decreased spending sequentially. General and administrative expenses were up approximately CAD 700,000 quarter on quarter. The majority of this increase was from stock-based compensation, which increased by CAD 500,000. These increases were driven by headcount growth as we scale organizational capacity to support our programs. Turning to our capitalization table, as shown on slide 17. The issued and outstanding share count was unchanged during Q2 2026. The fully diluted share count increased modestly by approximately 300,000 shares in the quarter due to stock option grants I previously mentioned. In summary, cash equivalents, and cash investments make up the vast majority of our assets. We have modest current liabilities and lease obligations, combined with no debt. Our balance sheet remains simple and clean.
Speaker #2: The majority of this increase was from stock-based compensation, which increased by $500,000. These increases were driven by headcount growth as we scale organizational capacity to support our programs.
Speaker #2: Turning to our capitalization table as shown on slide 17. The issued and outstanding share count was unchanged during the second quarter of 2026. The fully diluted share count increased modestly by approximately 300,000 shares in the quarter due to stock option grants I previously mentioned.
Speaker #2: In summary cash cash equivalents and cash investments make up the vast majority of our assets. We have modest current liabilities and lease obligations combined with no debt.
Speaker #2: Our balance sheet remains simple and clean. With that operator please open the line for questions.
Brian Thrasher: With that, operator, please open the line for questions.
Brian Thrasher: With that, operator, please open the line for questions.
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Speaker #3: Hey, good morning, guys. Simon, I wanted to spend a minute here on the change in the economics, the increase there. I know you covered it a bit in the prepared remarks, but I want to make sure I understood that.
Jeff Grampp: Hey, good morning, guys. Simon, I wanted to spend a minute here on the change in the economics, the increase there. I know you covered it a bit in the prepared remarks, but want to make sure I understood that. Is that more of a function of, I guess, shall we say, fine-tuning some of the estimates? Has anything fundamentally changed about the approach, your scope, or any other details we should be aware of to better contextualize that? Thanks.
Jeff Grampp: Hey, good morning, guys. Simon, I wanted to spend a minute here on the change in the economics, the increase there. I know you covered it a bit in the prepared remarks, but want to make sure I understood that. Is that more of a function of, I guess, shall we say, fine-tuning some of the estimates? Has anything fundamentally changed about the approach, your scope, or any other details we should be aware of to better contextualize that? Thanks.
Speaker #3: Is that more a function of, I guess I always say, fine-tuning some of the estimates? Has anything fundamentally changed about the approach, your scope, or any other details we should be aware of to better contextualize that?
Speaker #3: Thanks.
Speaker #2: Well, good question, Jeff. Well, from this model's perspective, nothing has changed. It is an iteration in, you know, our estimates of unit economics.
Simon Irish: Well, good question, Jeff. From this model perspective, nothing has changed. It is an iteration in our estimates of unit economics. The catalyst here has been the engineering work that we have undertaken over the last 18 months, and in particular, the engineering work that is going into TEFLA, which is the fuel line pilot. Perhaps that is the catalyst and the trigger for us to reissue the entire set of unit economics. It is also an opportunity for us to talk further about our principal businesses and why we believe that they are attractive businesses and will provide the drivers of value creation going forward.
Simon Irish: Well, good question, Jeff. From this model perspective, nothing has changed. It is an iteration in our estimates of unit economics. The catalyst here has been the engineering work that we have undertaken over the last 18 months, and in particular, the engineering work that is going into TEFLA, which is the fuel line pilot. Perhaps that is the catalyst and the trigger for us to reissue the entire set of unit economics. It is also an opportunity for us to talk further about our principal businesses and why we believe that they are attractive businesses and will provide the drivers of value creation going forward.
Speaker #2: And the catalyst here has been the engineering work that we've undertaken over the last 18 months, and in particular, the engineering work that's going into Tesla, which is the fuel line pilot.
Speaker #2: So perhaps that's the catalyst and the trigger for us to do a a to reissue the entire set of unity economics. it's also an opportunity for us to talk further about our our principal businesses and and why we believe that they they are attractive businesses and will provide the drivers of you know value creation going forward.
Speaker #3: Got it. I appreciate those details. From my follow-up on the DOE projects, Tetra and Tesla, can you cover what kind of near- or medium-term milestones we should track to monitor progress towards any potential, I guess, initiation of construction activities, or anything else we should be aware of?
Jeff Grampp: Got it. I appreciate those details. For my follow-up, on the DOE projects, TETRA and TEFLA, can you cover what would be the near medium-term milestones to just track progress towards any potential, I guess, initiation of construction activities or anything else we should be keeping an eye out for?
Jeff Grampp: Got it. I appreciate those details. For my follow-up, on the DOE projects, TETRA and TEFLA, can you cover what would be the near medium-term milestones to just track progress towards any potential, I guess, initiation of construction activities or anything else we should be keeping an eye out for?
Speaker #3: Keeping an eye out for?
Speaker #2: Yes. We haven't provided— we haven't provided further guidance on exactly what those future milestones are, other than to say that we are continuing to execute on both projects.
Simon Irish: Yes. We haven't provided further guidance on exactly what those future milestones are, other than say that we are continuing to execute basically on both projects. Both projects continue to be very important for us, not least because of the support of the DOE in project execution. TETRA deals with some of the data collection activities that we need to complete to support the license application. TEFLA, as I mentioned earlier, TEFLA is the opportunity for us at pilot scale to define precisely the fuel production processes that we will be looking to scale up into the commercial plant for IMSR's fuel source supply.
Simon Irish: Yes. We haven't provided further guidance on exactly what those future milestones are, other than say that we are continuing to execute basically on both projects. Both projects continue to be very important for us, not least because of the support of the DOE in project execution. TETRA deals with some of the data collection activities that we need to complete to support the license application. TEFLA, as I mentioned earlier, TEFLA is the opportunity for us at pilot scale to define precisely the fuel production processes that we will be looking to scale up into the commercial plant for IMSR's fuel source supply.
Speaker #2: Both projects continue to be very important for us, not least because of the, you know, support of the DOE in project execution. Tetra deals with some of the data collection activities that we need to complete to support the license application, and Tesla, as I mentioned earlier, Tesla is the opportunity for us to pilot scale, to define precisely the fuel production processes that we will be looking to scale up into the commercial plant for IMSR fuel sort supply.
Speaker #2: But we haven't provided details on exactly what milestones or precisely when to expect those on Tetra and Tesla. Simply to say that those projects continue to be, you know, very much a focus of attention on our end—important projects—and we're working on continuing to execute on them.
Simon Irish: But we haven't provided details on exactly what milestones, precisely when to expect those on TETRA and TEFLA, but simply to say that those projects continue to be very much focused attention on our end, important projects, and we're working on continuing to execute on them.
Simon Irish: But we haven't provided details on exactly what milestones, precisely when to expect those on TETRA and TEFLA, but simply to say that those projects continue to be very much focused attention on our end, important projects, and we're working on continuing to execute on them.
Speaker #3: Understood. We'll stay tuned. Thanks, Simon.
Jeff Grampp: Understood. We'll stay tuned. Thanks, Simon.
Jeff Grampp: Understood. We'll stay tuned. Thanks, Simon.
Speaker #2: Thank you.
Simon Irish: Thank you.
Simon Irish: Thank you.
Speaker #1: And as a reminder that is star one if you would like to ask a question. We'll go next to Alex Furman with Lucid Capital Markets.
Operator: As a reminder, that is star 1 if you would like to ask a question. We will go next to Alex Fuhrman with Lucid Capital Markets.
Operator: As a reminder, that is star 1 if you would like to ask a question. We will go next to Alex Fuhrman with Lucid Capital Markets.
Speaker #4: Hey guys. Thanks very much for taking my question. wanted to ask you about the use of natural gas as a bridge fuel. can can you tell us how long you expect your plants to be using nat gas as a bridge fuel and and what are the economics the unit economics of your plants look like during that interim period?
Alex Fuhrman: Hey, guys. Thanks very much for taking my question. Wanted to ask you about the use of natural gas as a bridge fuel. Can you tell us how long you expect your plants to be using nat gas as a bridge fuel? And what do the unit economics of your plants look like during that interim period?
Alex Fuhrman: Hey, guys. Thanks very much for taking my question. Wanted to ask you about the use of natural gas as a bridge fuel. Can you tell us how long you expect your plants to be using nat gas as a bridge fuel? And what do the unit economics of your plants look like during that interim period?
Speaker #2: Yes. So Alex very this is this is I think a you know you're talking to speaking to I think a very interesting characteristic of our plant.
Simon Irish: Yes. Alex, you are talking to things that I think are very interesting characteristic of our plant. We can use natural gas in the back end because the back end of our plant sits outside. We believe to sit outside the nuclear regulatory envelope, you can do this with certain Generation IV systems. In terms of the use of natural gas, I have given guidance previously on what a typical SMR project would look like, which is 5 plus 5 years. We would expect to be able to, in that first 5 years, to put into production commercial operation the back end of our plant, where the steam systems will be driven by natural gas combustion. This would be a capital efficient way of doing it. It would not be a combined cycle plant. That would be an operationally very efficient way of using natural gas.
Simon Irish: Yes. Alex, you are talking to things that I think are very interesting characteristic of our plant. We can use natural gas in the back end because the back end of our plant sits outside. We believe to sit outside the nuclear regulatory envelope, you can do this with certain Generation IV systems. In terms of the use of natural gas, I have given guidance previously on what a typical SMR project would look like, which is 5 plus 5 years. We would expect to be able to, in that first 5 years, to put into production commercial operation the back end of our plant, where the steam systems will be driven by natural gas combustion. This would be a capital efficient way of doing it. It would not be a combined cycle plant. That would be an operationally very efficient way of using natural gas.
Speaker #2: So we can use natural gas in the back end, because the back ends of our plants—it's outside. We believe to sit outside the nuclear regulatory envelope, you can do this with certain Generation IV systems.
Speaker #2: so i in terms of in terms of the use of natural gas I will I've given guidance previously on what a typical SMR project would look like which is five plus five years.
Speaker #2: we would expect to be able to in that first five years to put into production commercial operation the back end of our plant where the steam systems will be driven by natural gas combustion.
Speaker #2: Now the the this is would be a capital efficient way of doing it. It wouldn't be a combined cycle plant. That would be an operating the very efficient way of using natural gas.
Speaker #2: This would be a capital-efficient way of doing it. Namely, you'll be using all the capex you'll be deploying—the systems you'll be deploying will be dual-purpose systems.
Simon Irish: This would be a capital efficient way of doing it, namely, you will be using all the CapEx you would be deploying. The systems you would be deploying would be dual purpose systems. They can be driven by natural gas, and they can be driven by thermal energy from nuclear systems. So you will see if you are simply using natural gas to create steam, you will see the type of thermal efficiency you get with a coal plant. You would not see the thermal efficiencies you will get with a combined cycle plant. Nonetheless, it is a capital efficient way of building a dual fuel back end to our plants. Dual fuel, namely nuclear systems and natural gas systems. We would anticipate because that back end of that plant would consist of standard industrial equipment being able to bring power online commercially within 5 years.
Simon Irish: This would be a capital efficient way of doing it, namely, you will be using all the CapEx you would be deploying. The systems you would be deploying would be dual purpose systems. They can be driven by natural gas, and they can be driven by thermal energy from nuclear systems. So you will see if you are simply using natural gas to create steam, you will see the type of thermal efficiency you get with a coal plant. You would not see the thermal efficiencies you will get with a combined cycle plant. Nonetheless, it is a capital efficient way of building a dual fuel back end to our plants. Dual fuel, namely nuclear systems and natural gas systems. We would anticipate because that back end of that plant would consist of standard industrial equipment being able to bring power online commercially within five years.
Speaker #2: They can be driven by natural gas, and they can be driven by thermal energy—energy from nuclear systems. So, you'll see, if you're simply using natural gas to create steam, you'll see the type of thermal efficiency you get with a coal plant.
Speaker #2: You wouldn't see the thermal efficiencies you'll get with a combined cycle plant. But nonetheless it is it is a capital efficient way of of of building a dual fuel back end to our plant.
Speaker #2: Dual fuel namely nuclear systems and natural gas systems. we would anticipate because the that back end of that plant would consist of standard industrial equipment being able to bring power online commercially within five years.
Speaker #2: And we believe that's deeply relevant to many particularly in the AI data center sector where you you hear the you know the you hear the requirements there end speed to power.
Simon Irish: We believe that is deeply relevant to many, particularly in the AI data center sector, where you hear the requirements at their end, speed to power. Namely, what is super important to them is getting access to power quickly, and they are not, for the moment, price sensitive. Over the long run, I expect them to be deeply price sensitive, but perhaps not in the short run. So this allows us to, for a data center operator and others in the industrial world as well, it is not just data centers. This allows us to say, "We are able to deliver your requirement tactically in the near term, which is power. We are also able to deliver what you need strategically in the 2030s in the long run, where you have clean, firm, cost-competitive nuclear power." That is the advantage of this dual-fuel approach.
Simon Irish: We believe that is deeply relevant to many, particularly in the AI data center sector, where you hear the requirements at their end, speed to power. Namely, what is super important to them is getting access to power quickly, and they are not, for the moment, price sensitive. Over the long run, I expect them to be deeply price sensitive, but perhaps not in the short run. So this allows us to, for a data center operator and others in the industrial world as well, it is not just data centers. This allows us to say, "We are able to deliver your requirement tactically in the near term, which is power. We are also able to deliver what you need strategically in the 2030s in the long run, where you have clean, firm, cost-competitive nuclear power." That is the advantage of this dual-fuel approach.
Speaker #2: Namely, what is super, super important to them is getting access to power quickly, and they're not, for the moment, price sensitive. Over the long run, I expect it to be deeply price sensitive.
Speaker #2: But perhaps not in in in the short run. So this allows us to to for a data center operator and others in the industrial world as well.
Speaker #2: It's not just data centers. This allows us to say we're able to deliver your requirement tactically in the near term which is power. And we're also able to deliver what you need strategically in the twenty thirties in the long run.
Speaker #2: Okay. Where you have clean firm cost competitive nuclear power. And that's the advantage of this dual fuel approach.
Speaker #4: Okay. That's that's really helpful. Thanks. And then I I appreciated the description of you know the various stages of the nuclear fuel supply chain can can can you just kind of summarize for for us a little bit is the takeaway there that your design can run on fuel that is commercially available today or or are you depending on some some new fuel that's gonna come online in the future?
Alex Fuhrman: Okay. That is really helpful. Thanks. I appreciated the description of the various stages of the nuclear fuel supply chain. Can you just kind of summarize for us a little bit, is the takeaway there that your design can run on fuel that is commercially available today, or are you depending on some new fuel that is going to come online in the future?
Alex Fuhrman: Okay. That is really helpful. Thanks. I appreciated the description of the various stages of the nuclear fuel supply chain. Can you just kind of summarize for us a little bit, is the takeaway there that your design can run on fuel that is commercially available today, or are you depending on some new fuel that is going to come online in the future?
Speaker #2: Well the the firstly the neutronic form of it is commercially available today. That's step one. Step two we require a chemical form of our fuel which is uranium tetrafluoride.
Simon Irish: Well, firstly, the neutronic form of it is commercially available today. That is step 1. Step 2, we require a chemical form of our fuel, which is uranium tetrafluoride. Fluorination as a chemical process, both conversion and deconversion, has been baked into the nuclear supply chain for decades and decades. The difference here is that we require uranium tetrafluoride where the uranium is enriched to 5%. Uranium tetrafluoride typically exists in the nuclear fuel supply chain on the other side of the enrichment process, namely the tetrafluoride is using natural uranium. Nonetheless, fluorination as a chemical process is very well understood. We are working with Westinghouse on uranium tetrafluoride supply, and that is the piece that we need to work on from a supply chain perspective.
Simon Irish: Well, firstly, the neutronic form of it is commercially available today. That is step 1. Step 2, we require a chemical form of our fuel, which is uranium tetrafluoride. Fluorination as a chemical process, both conversion and deconversion, has been baked into the nuclear supply chain for decades and decades. The difference here is that we require uranium tetrafluoride where the uranium is enriched to 5%. Uranium tetrafluoride typically exists in the nuclear fuel supply chain on the other side of the enrichment process, namely the tetrafluoride is using natural uranium. Nonetheless, fluorination as a chemical process is very well understood. We are working with Westinghouse on uranium tetrafluoride supply, and that is the piece that we need to work on from a supply chain perspective.
Speaker #2: Now fluorination as a chemical process both conversion and deconversion has been booked into the nuclear supply chain for decades and decades. The difference here is that we require we require uranium tetrafluoride at at at you know where the uranium is enriched to five percent.
Speaker #2: Uranium tetrafluoride typically exists in the nuclear fuel supply chain. The other side of the enrichment process, namely the tetrafluoride, is using natural uranium. But nonetheless, fluorination as a chemical process is very well understood.
Speaker #2: We're working with Westinghouse on uranium tetrafluoride supply. And you know that is the that's the piece that we need to that we need to work on from the supply chain perspective.
Speaker #2: But it's it's a but it's a I I think a much much smaller much much more stri straightforward step compared to the the various steps need to be brought to the table if you're using Haylou and using Haylou in in physical fuel form.
Simon Irish: But it is, I think, a much, much smaller, much, much more straightforward step compared to the various steps that need to be brought to the table if you are using HALEU and using HALEU in its physical fuel form, namely metallic uranium used in physical reactor assemblies or TRISO fuel. So we think it is a much, much simpler process, and it requires just one plant, namely a plant which will produce uranium tetrafluoride enriched to less than 5%. Our product from that plant will be the IMSR Fuel Salt, where we would be taking uranium tetrafluoride enriched to no more than 5%, adding carrier salts, which are standard industrial chemicals in fluoride form as well. The production process would naturally, because it is producing a nuclear regulated product fuel, that production process would have a very tight set of production requirements and would be regulated as such.
Simon Irish: But it is, I think, a much, much smaller, much, much more straightforward step compared to the various steps that need to be brought to the table if you are using HALEU and using HALEU in its physical fuel form, namely metallic uranium used in physical reactor assemblies or TRISO fuel. So we think it is a much, much simpler process, and it requires just one plant, namely a plant which will produce uranium tetrafluoride enriched to less than 5%. Our product from that plant will be the IMSR Fuel Salt, where we would be taking uranium tetrafluoride enriched to no more than 5%, adding carrier salts, which are standard industrial chemicals in fluoride form as well. The production process would naturally, because it is producing a nuclear regulated product fuel, that production process would have a very tight set of production requirements and would be regulated as such.
Speaker #2: Namely, metallic uranium used in physical retro assemblies or Triso fuel. So we think it's a much, much simpler process. And it requires just one plant, namely a plant which will produce uranium tetrafluoride enriched to less than 5%.
Speaker #2: And our product from that plant will be the IMSR fuel sort where we'd be taking the uranium tetrafluoride enriched to no no more than five percent.
Speaker #2: Adding carrier sorts sorts which are standard industrial you know chemicals in fluoride form as well. The production process will be a production process with would would naturally because it's producing a nuclear a nuclear regulated product fuel.
Speaker #2: that production process would would have a very tight set of production requirements and would be regulated as such.
Speaker #4: Okay, that's really helpful. Thank you very much.
Alex Fuhrman: Okay. That is really helpful. Thank you very much.
Alex Fuhrman: Okay. That is really helpful. Thank you very much.
Speaker #2: Thanks Alex.
Simon Irish: Thanks, Alex.
Simon Irish: Thanks, Alex.
Speaker #1: And we'll go next to Derek Soderbergh with Canter Fitzgerald.
Operator: We will go next to Derek Soderberg with Cantor Fitzgerald.
Operator: We will go next to Derek Soderberg with Cantor Fitzgerald.
Speaker #5: Hi, this is Drew Nordquist calling for Derek. Congrats on the quarter, and thank you guys for taking our questions. Now that the PDC and PIA are approved, what are the additional topical reports that are going to be needed?
Drew Nordquist: Hi, this is Drew Nordquist calling for Derek. Congrats on the quarter, and thank you guys for taking our questions. Now that the PDC and PIA are approved, what are the additional topical reports that are going to be needed? Just wondering if you guys can provide an update on where you are with fuel qualification.
Drew Nordquist: Hi, this is Drew Nordquist calling for Derek. Congrats on the quarter, and thank you guys for taking our questions. Now that the PDC and PIA are approved, what are the additional topical reports that are going to be needed? Just wondering if you guys can provide an update on where you are with fuel qualification.
Speaker #5: And then just wonder if you guys can provide an update on where you are with fuel qualification.
Speaker #2: Okay. Fuel qualification. So Drew, well, good question. Firstly, with respect to the two topic reports, yes, we completed two of them last year.
Simon Irish: Okay. Fuel qualification. Drew, good question. Firstly, with respect to the two topical reports, yes, we have completed two of them last year, the Principal Design Criteria, and this year it was Postulated Initiating Event. In March, we gave guidance on three topical reports this year, guidance that we would be submitting the topical reports to the NRC, where we have clearly with the Postulated Initiating Event methodology, we have achieved one of those three. We still expect to be submitting the full three. You can expect from the company, over the coming quarters this year, to be submitting at least two further topical reports. Drew, could you repeat the second question, please?
Simon Irish: Okay. Fuel qualification. Drew, good question. Firstly, with respect to the two topical reports, yes, we have completed two of them last year, the Principal Design Criteria, and this year it was Postulated Initiating Event. In March, we gave guidance on three topical reports this year, guidance that we would be submitting the topical reports to the NRC, where we have clearly with the Postulated Initiating Event methodology, we have achieved one of those three. We still expect to be submitting the full three. You can expect from the company, over the coming quarters this year, to be submitting at least two further topical reports. Drew, could you repeat the second question, please?
Speaker #2: The printed design criteria and and this year is postulation initiating events. on our in March we gave guidance on three topic reports this year.
Speaker #2: guidance that we would be submitting the topic reports to the NRC where we have clearly with the postulation initiating event methodology we are we have achieved one of those three.
Speaker #2: we still expect to be submitting the full three so you can expect from the company over the coming quarters this year to be submitting you know two further at least two further topical reports.
Speaker #2: And Drew could you repeat the second question please?
Speaker #5: Oh, I just wonder if you could provide an update on where you are at with fuel qualification.
Drew Nordquist: I was just wondering if you could provide an update on where you are at with fuel qualification.
Drew Nordquist: I was just wondering if you could provide an update on where you are at with fuel qualification.
Simon Irish: Fuel qualification. Fuel qualification is different with a liquid fuel reactor system. Fuel qualification typically is a long pole in the regulatory tent for solid fuel reactors because you have to prove the performance of that fuel pin in all operating conditions in the reactor core. It is notoriously long and complex for solid fuel reactor systems. That is not the case for us. Fuel qualification for us is to demonstrate that we understand all the techno-thermal characteristics of our salt. Namely, we can present to the NRC what the specific heat capacity is of the salt. Those characteristics allow us to define the heat transport properties of the fuel. A different process, I would argue, a more straightforward process than the very complicated process associated with fuel qualification for physical fuel.
Simon Irish: Fuel qualification. Fuel qualification is different with a liquid fuel reactor system. Fuel qualification typically is a long pole in the regulatory tent for solid fuel reactors because you have to prove the performance of that fuel pin in all operating conditions in the reactor core. It is notoriously long and complex for solid fuel reactor systems. That is not the case for us. Fuel qualification for us is to demonstrate that we understand all the techno-thermal characteristics of our salt. Namely, we can present to the NRC what the specific heat capacity is of the salt. Those characteristics allow us to define the heat transport properties of the fuel. A different process, I would argue, a more straightforward process than the very complicated process associated with fuel qualification for physical fuel.
Speaker #2: Fuel qualification. So fuel qualification is different with a liquid fuel reactor system. Fuel qualification typically is a long pole in the regulatory tent for solid fuel reactors because you have to prove the performance of that fuel pin in all operating conditions in the reactor core.
Speaker #2: It's it's notoriously long and complex for solid fuel reactor systems. That's not the case for us. Fuel qualification for us is to demonstrate that we understand all the techno thermal characteristics of our salt namely we can present to the NRC what the specific heat capacity is of the salt and those characteristics allow us to define the heat transport properties of the fuel.
Speaker #2: So a different process I would argue a more straightforward process than the very complicated process associated with fuel qualification for physical fuel. Recall that fuel qualification of physical fuel when you're talking about the performance of that padding for physical fuel that's the first containment boundary.
Simon Irish: Recall that fuel qualification of physical fuel, when you are talking about the performance of that cladding for physical fuel, that is the first containment boundary. So fuel qualification is about proving the performance of that containment boundary. We do not have that fuel qualification requirement, so it is a very different process. Not so well understood because we are talking about a liquid fuel, but the qualification process is largely ensuring that we collect all the data in a compliant way to demonstrate to the regulator that we understand the heat transport properties of our fuel.
Simon Irish: Recall that fuel qualification of physical fuel, when you are talking about the performance of that cladding for physical fuel, that is the first containment boundary. So fuel qualification is about proving the performance of that containment boundary. We do not have that fuel qualification requirement, so it is a very different process. Not so well understood because we are talking about a liquid fuel, but the qualification process is largely ensuring that we collect all the data in a compliant way to demonstrate to the regulator that we understand the heat transport properties of our fuel.
Speaker #2: So, fuel qualification is about proving the performance of that containment boundary. We don't have that fuel qualification requirement, so it's a very different process.
Speaker #2: not so well understood because we're talking about a liquid fuel. But the qualification process is largely ensuring that we collect all the data in a compliant way to demonstrate the regulator that we understand the the that we understand the the heat transport properties of our fuel.
Speaker #5: Thank you for the clarifying.
Drew Nordquist: Thank you for the color, Simon.
Drew Nordquist: Thank you for the color, Simon.
Speaker #2: Yeah. Thank you.
Simon Irish: Yeah. Thank you.
Simon Irish: Yeah. Thank you.
Speaker #1: And moving on to Craig Irwin with Roth Capital Partners.
Operator: Moving on to Craig Irwin with ROTH Capital Partners.
Operator: Moving on to Craig Irwin with ROTH Capital Partners.
Speaker #2: g+good morning and thank thank you for taking my questions. So Simon I I wanted to ask a little bit about your MOU with with Riot you know this this seems like a really exciting customer.
Craig Irwin: Good morning, and thank you for taking my questions. Simon, I wanted to ask a little bit about your MoU with Riot. This seems like a really exciting customer. I was wondering if there was maybe more color or more detail you might be able to share with us. For example, have you been discussing with them potential initial sites, and timeline for development of those sites? Has there been work done on the evaluation of subsidies or government support, low-cost financing for your first units? Do you have any color on how those units are likely to be financed, other than through government support?
Craig Irwin: Good morning, and thank you for taking my questions. Simon, I wanted to ask a little bit about your MoU with Riot. This seems like a really exciting customer. I was wondering if there was maybe more color or more detail you might be able to share with us. For example, have you been discussing with them potential initial sites, and timeline for development of those sites? Has there been work done on the evaluation of subsidies or government support, low-cost financing for your first units? Do you have any color on how those units are likely to be financed, other than through government support?
Speaker #2: I was wondering if there was maybe more color m or more detail you might be able to share with us you know for example you know have you been discussing with them potential initial sites you know and timeline for development of those sites?
Speaker #2: Has there been work done on the evaluation of subsidies or you know government support la low cost financing for your first units? and do you have any color on on how those units are are likely to be financed?
Speaker #2: You know other than through through government support. Yes. So the we have given guidance on our relationship with Riot. in the form of the the you know the parties at this point are doing some preliminary site characterization work intention would be a grant to down select to a target candidate for site.
Simon Irish: Yes. We have given guidance on our relationship with Riot, in the form of the parties at this point are doing some preliminary site characterization work. The intention would be a grant to down-select to a target candidate first site. We haven't disclosed what that site is. Probably at this point in time, I wouldn't want to give any further guidance. Probably that would include on timelines as well. In terms of how this type of project is going to be financed, I think this type of project would be financed. Clearly, it would be state interest in financing this type of project, and I think that's very much true at the federal level as well. But in terms of the broad mechanisms of capital formation around this type of project, the capital formation, in my view, is not going to be association with a classic project finance.
Simon Irish: Yes. We have given guidance on our relationship with Riot, in the form of the parties at this point are doing some preliminary site characterization work. The intention would be a grant to down-select to a target candidate first site. We haven't disclosed what that site is. Probably at this point in time, I wouldn't want to give any further guidance. Probably that would include on timelines as well. In terms of how this type of project is going to be financed, I think this type of project would be financed. Clearly, it would be state interest in financing this type of project, and I think that's very much true at the federal level as well. But in terms of the broad mechanisms of capital formation around this type of project, the capital formation, in my view, is not going to be association with a classic project finance.
Speaker #2: we haven't disclosed what that site is. and probably at this point in time I wouldn't I wouldn't want to give any further guidance. probably that would include on timelines as well.
Speaker #2: in terms of how this type of project is going to be financed I think this type of project would be financed clearly would be state interest in financing this type of project.
Speaker #2: And I think that's true very much true at the federal level as well. But in terms of the broad mechanisms of capital formation around this type of project the capital formation in in my view is not gonna be associated with a classic project finance.
Speaker #2: These are highly strategic projects for everyone who's going to be involved. They're obviously very strategic for us because this is the these represent you know our our project with Riot represents you know a project which is sort of the first one two three four five for Terrestrial Energy.
Simon Irish: These are highly strategic projects for everyone who's going to be involved. They're obviously very strategic for us because our project with Riot represents a project which is sort of the first one, two, three, four, five for Terrestrial Energy. It's a very important project. That's also very true for Riot as well. Success with their first project with us provides the pathway for Riot to that 4 gigawatts, highly strategic 4 gigawatts in the 2030s. That's true also for the suppliers. Success for the first project is going to be highly strategic for the suppliers. It's going to be true for the constructor as well, and it's going to be true for the operator. So I see capital formation associated with these projects, particularly with respect to equity capital formation, associated with the participation in those in the consortium. We are part of that consortium, okay?
Simon Irish: These are highly strategic projects for everyone who's going to be involved. They're obviously very strategic for us because our project with Riot represents a project which is sort of the first one, two, three, four, five for Terrestrial Energy. It's a very important project. That's also very true for Riot as well. Success with their first project with us provides the pathway for Riot to that 4 gigawatts, highly strategic 4 gigawatts in the 2030s. That's true also for the suppliers. Success for the first project is going to be highly strategic for the suppliers. It's going to be true for the constructor as well, and it's going to be true for the operator. So I see capital formation associated with these projects, particularly with respect to equity capital formation, associated with the participation in those in the consortium. We are part of that consortium, okay?
Speaker #2: So very important project. That's also very true for Riot as well. Success with the with their first project with us. Provides the pathway for Riot to that four gigawatts highly strategic four gigawatts in in in in the twenty thirties.
Speaker #2: That's true also for the suppliers. Success with the first project is gonna be highly strategic for the suppliers. it's it's gonna be true for the the constructor as well.
Speaker #2: And it's gonna be true for the operator. So I see capital formation associated with these projects particularly with facing equity capital formation associated with the participation in those in the consortium.
Speaker #2: You know we are part of that consortium. Okay? But we are it we're not looking to build and operate the plant. But capital formation for you know for those first plants is going to be associated with the strategic value that they represent to everyone that's going to be involved.
Simon Irish: But we're not looking to build and operate the plant. But capital formation for those first plants is going to be associated with the strategic value that they represent to everyone who's going to be involved. Do recall the strategic value is associated with our pursuit of an opportunity in the serviceable addressable market, which is running past $2 trillion. So getting it right with plants one, two, three, four, five, okay, gives you. That's table stakes into a massive market for SMR deployment in the 2030s. That is going to be the mechanism, in my opinion, for capital formation. It's going to be supported, and I think vigorously, it's going to be supported by various agencies and policy initiatives at the federal government level. I think we're aware of what some of them are. It's also going to be supported at the state level as well.
Simon Irish: But we're not looking to build and operate the plant. But capital formation for those first plants is going to be associated with the strategic value that they represent to everyone who's going to be involved. Do recall the strategic value is associated with our pursuit of an opportunity in the serviceable addressable market, which is running past $2 trillion. So getting it right with plants one, two, three, four, five, okay, gives you. That's table stakes into a massive market for SMR deployment in the 2030s. That is going to be the mechanism, in my opinion, for capital formation. It's going to be supported, and I think vigorously, it's going to be supported by various agencies and policy initiatives at the federal government level. I think we're aware of what some of them are. It's also going to be supported at the state level as well.
Speaker #2: And do recall the strategic value is associated with our pursuit of an opportunity in the service of addressable market which is you know running in you know past two trillion dollars.
Speaker #2: So getting it right with plants one two three you know four five okay gives you that those that table stakes into a massive market for SMR deployment in the twenty thirties.
Speaker #2: That is going to be the mechanism in my opinion for capital formation. It's going to be supported and I think vigorously. It's going to be supported by various agencies and policy initiatives in that that at the federal government level.
Speaker #2: I think they're aware of what some of them are. And it's also going to be supported at state level as well. So that's how I see the the the the financing developing with these projects.
Simon Irish: So that is how I see the financing developing with these projects.
Simon Irish: So that is how I see the financing developing with these projects.
Speaker #3: th+thank you for that. I+if I could revisit the IMSR fuel salt supply approach you know y the conventional approach three steps three plants the way that you're going to approach things for for your fuel two steps one plant you know can you maybe unpack the economics a little bit for us?
Craig Irwin: Thank you for that.
Craig Irwin: Thank you for that.
Simon Irish: Yeah.
Simon Irish: Yeah.
Craig Irwin: If I could revisit the IMSR Fuel Salt supply approach. The conventional approach, three steps, three plants. The way that you are going to approach things for your fuel, two steps, one plant. Can you maybe unpack the economics a little bit for us? Do you have potential line of sight on maybe better than 50% lower costs on an energetically similar fuel type versus conventional plants?
Craig Irwin: If I could revisit the IMSR Fuel Salt supply approach. The conventional approach, three steps, three plants. The way that you are going to approach things for your fuel, two steps, one plant. Can you maybe unpack the economics a little bit for us? Do you have potential line of sight on maybe better than 50% lower costs on an energetically similar fuel type versus conventional plants?
Speaker #3: do do you have potential you know line of sight on you know maybe better than fifty percent lower costs on on an energy ad energetically similar fuel type versus versus conventional plants?
Speaker #2: Well we've we've we've we've given guidance on on a total revenues for that fuel business grants. And we've given guidance that you know forty percent gross profit margin which is you know that that's middle of the park.
Simon Irish: Well, we have given guidance on our total revenues for that fuel business, Grant. And we have given guidance at 40% gross profit margin. That is middle of the park. We do not want to stretch this point too much. We think that 40% is very reasonable when you are looking across the market and you say, what are the typical gross profit margins on fuel supply? But certainly, the whole fuel supply process our end consists of far fewer steps, fewer plants associated with the fuel supply business that you typically see with solid fuel reactors.
Simon Irish: Well, we have given guidance on our total revenues for that fuel business, Grant. And we have given guidance at 40% gross profit margin. That is middle of the park. We do not want to stretch this point too much. We think that 40% is very reasonable when you are looking across the market and you say, what are the typical gross profit margins on fuel supply? But certainly, the whole fuel supply process our end consists of far fewer steps, fewer plants associated with the fuel supply business that you typically see with solid fuel reactors.
Speaker #2: we don't wanna stretch this point too much. We think that forty percent is very reasonable when you're looking across the market. And you say what are the typical gross profit margins on fuel supply?
Speaker #2: But but certainly you know the the whole fuel supply process our end is is consists of far fewer steps fewer plants associated with the fuel supply business that you typically see with solid fuel reactors.
Speaker #2: There's gonna be from a you know a cost perspective to the customer the owner operator of the nuclear plant there's going to be a tremendous advantage because per gigawatt year our fuel is going to be from the from from the schematic represent representation o+on that slide our fuel is going to be significantly less expensive than the fuel you'd have from from solid fuel reactors and particularly from generation four systems where you have to you know from a a standing start you have to set up you know potentially three new plants.
Simon Irish: There's going to be from a cost perspective to the customer, the owner operator of the nuclear plant, there's going to be a tremendous advantage because per gigawatt year, our fuel from the schematic representation on that slide, our fuel is going to be significantly less expensive than the fuel you would have from solid fuel reactors, particularly from Generation IV systems where from a standing start, you have to set up potentially three new plants. That's going to be costly, and it's going to be represented in the price of the fuel.
Simon Irish: There's going to be from a cost perspective to the customer, the owner operator of the nuclear plant, there's going to be a tremendous advantage because per gigawatt year, our fuel from the schematic representation on that slide, our fuel is going to be significantly less expensive than the fuel you would have from solid fuel reactors, particularly from Generation IV systems where from a standing start, you have to set up potentially three new plants. That's going to be costly, and it's going to be represented in the price of the fuel.
Speaker #2: That's gonna be costly. And it's gonna be represented in the price of the fuel.
Speaker #3: understood. Understood. Well congratulations on the on the progress. We look forward to you know your success.
Craig Irwin: Well, congratulations on the progress. We look forward to your success.
Craig Irwin: Well, congratulations on the progress. We look forward to your success.
Speaker #2: Thank you Grant.
Simon Irish: Thank you, Grant.
Simon Irish: Thank you, Craig.
Speaker #1: And that's now concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the floor back over to Simon Irish for closing comments.
Operator: This now concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the floor back over to Simon Irish for closing comments.
Operator: This now concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the floor back over to Simon Irish for closing comments.
Speaker #2: Thank you for joining us today. and for your interest in the company. We set clear clear expectations earlier in the year and we continue to meet them.
Simon Irish: Thank you for joining us today and for your interest in the company. We set clear expectations earlier in the year, and we continue to meet them. We have a small modular reactor plant design of exceptional potential, and we look forward to demonstrating progress milestone by milestone through 2026 and beyond. Thank you.
Simon Irish: Thank you for joining us today and for your interest in the company. We set clear expectations earlier in the year, and we continue to meet them. We have a small modular reactor plant design of exceptional potential, and we look forward to demonstrating progress milestone by milestone through 2026 and beyond. Thank you.
Speaker #2: We have a small modular reactor plant design of exceptional potential. And we look forward to demonstrating progress milestone by milestone. Through twenty twenty-six and beyond.
Speaker #2: Thank you.
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