Q1 2027 Elite Pharmaceuticals Inc Earnings Call
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Speaker #1: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Elite Pharmaceuticals first quarter of fiscal year 2027 conference call. At this time, all lines have been placed in a listen-only mode.
Operator 4: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Elite Pharmaceuticals first quarter of fiscal year 2027 conference call. At this time, all lines have been placed on a listen-only mode. Before management begins speaking, the conference has the following statement. Elite would like to remind listeners that remarks made during this call may contain forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that are subject to change at any time, including, but not limited to, statements about Elite's expectations regarding forward operating results. Forward-looking statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the federal securities laws and represent management's current expectations. Actual results may differ materially. Elite disclaims any obligation to update or revise its forward-looking statements except as required by law.
Operator: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Elite Pharmaceuticals Q1 of Fiscal Year 2027 Conference Call. At this time, all lines have been placed on a listen-only mode. Before management begins speaking, the conference has the following statement. Elite would like to remind listeners that remarks made during this call may contain forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that are subject to change at any time, including, but not limited o, statements about Elite's expectations regarding forward operating results. Forward-looking statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the federal securities laws and represent management's current expectations. Actual results may differ materially. Elite disclaims any obligation to update or revise its forward-looking statements except as required by law.
Speaker #1: Before management begins speaking, the conference has the following statement: ELITE would like to remind listeners that remarks made during this call may contain forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that are subject to change at any time, including but not limited to statements about ELITE's expectations regarding forward operating results.
Speaker #1: Forward-looking statements are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Federal Securities Laws and represent management's current expectations. Actual results may differ materially.
Speaker #1: ELITE disclaims any obligation to update or revise its forward-looking statements except as required by law. More complete information regarding forward-looking statements, risks, and uncertainties can be found in the reports ELITE files with the SEC, which are available on ELITE's website at elitepharma.com under the Investor Relations section.
Operator 4: More complete information regarding forward-looking statements, risks, and uncertainties can be found on the reports Elite files with the SEC, which is available on Elite's website at www.elitepharma.com under the investor relations section. Elite encourages you to review these documents carefully. With that covered, it is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to your host, Mr. Nasrat Hakim, President and Chief Executive Officer of Elite Pharmaceuticals. Sir, the floor is yours.
Operator: More complete information regarding forward-looking statements, risks, and uncertainties can be found on the reports Elite files with the SEC, which is available on Elite's website at www.elitepharma.com under the investor relations section. Elite encourages you to review these documents carefully. With that covered, it is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to your host, Mr. Nasrat Hakim, President and Chief Executive Officer of Elite Pharmaceuticals. Sir, the floor is yours.
Speaker #1: ELITE encourages you to review these documents carefully. With that covered, it is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to your host, Mr. Nasrat Hakim, President and Chief Executive Officer of ELITE Pharmaceuticals.
Speaker #1: Sir, the floor is yours.
Speaker #5: Thank you, Matthew, and good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us today. This is Elite's earnings call. Our CFO, Carter Ward, will give us the financial update, after which I will come back with a brief update and answer some of the questions that you've submitted to Diane.
Nasrat Hakim: Thank you, Matthew, and good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us today. This is Elite's earnings call. Our CFO, Carter Ward, will give us the financial update. After which, I'll come back with a brief update and answer some of the questions that you've submitted to Dianne. Mr. Ward, you have the floor.
Nasrat Hakim: Thank you, Matthew, and good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us today. This is Elite's earnings call. Our CFO, Carter Ward, will give us the financial update. After which, I'll come back with a brief update and answer some of the questions that you've submitted to Dianne. Mr. Ward, you have the floor.
Speaker #5: Mr. Ward, you have the floor.
Speaker #6: Thank you, Nazrat. Good morning, everybody. Thank you for calling in. Yesterday, we filed our 10-Q—that's our quarterly report—for the quarter ended June 30, 2026.
Carter Ward: Thank you, Nasrat. Good morning, everybody. Thank you for calling in. Yesterday, we filed our 10-Q. That's our quarterly report. It's for the quarter ended 30 June 2026. We're on a 31 March fiscal year, so the June quarter is our first quarter of the fiscal 2027. It's available on our website, www.elitepharma.com, under the investor relations section. If you haven't seen it yet, please go there, take a copy. As always, I'm going to provide some context, some color to the financial statements, and answer any finance questions we received. Received a lot of questions this time. Thank you very, very much. I really appreciate everybody taking the time to ask the questions and paying attention. Nice to know people are out there. I'm going to start with the area that I received the most questions on. Many questions on revenues and operating profit.
Carter Ward: Thank you, Nasrat. Good morning, everybody. Thank you for calling in. Yesterday, we filed our 10-Q. That's our quarterly report. It's for the quarter ended 30 June 2026. We're on a 31 March fiscal year, so the June quarter is our first quarter of the fiscal 2027. It's available on our website, www.elitepharma.com, under the investor relations section. If you haven't seen it yet, please go there, take a copy. As always, I'm going to provide some context, some color to the financial statements, and answer any finance questions we received. Received a lot of questions this time. Thank you very, very much. I really appreciate everybody taking the time to ask the questions and paying attention. Nice to know people are out there. I'm going to start with the area that I received the most questions on. Many questions on revenues and operating profit.
Speaker #6: We're on a March 31st fiscal year, so the June quarter is our first quarter of fiscal 2027. It's available on our website, elitepharma.com, under the Investor Relations section.
Speaker #6: If you haven't seen it yet, please go there and take a copy. As always, I'm going to provide some context, some color to the financial statements, and answer any finance questions we received.
Speaker #6: We received a lot of questions this time. Thank you very, very much. I really appreciate everybody taking the time to ask the questions and pay attention.
Speaker #6: Nice to know people are out there. Let me start with the area—I’m going to start with the area that I received the most questions on.
Speaker #6: There are many questions on revenues and operating profit. I'm not going to go through each specific question because they're all pretty much similar. Revenues for the quarter were $32.4 million and operating profits were $7.5 million.
Carter Ward: I'm not going to go to each specific question because they're all pretty much similar. Revenues for the quarter were $32.4 million and operating profits were $7.5 million, both in line with the previous three quarters, both solid and steady. The questions I received, however, they were not related to this solid performance, but rather the change as compared to the June 2025 quarter, which our 10-Q presents some comparison of the quarter-on-quarter changes. The June 2025 quarter was Elite's best quarter ever, so far. Got a lot of questions on the top-line revenue decrease and what we're doing to increase the top line in the future. Got questions on COGS and margins, and I'll address all of them. Let's start by looking at the June 2025 quarter and how it compares to all of the quarters that followed.
Carter Ward: I'm not going to go to each specific question because they're all pretty much similar. Revenues for the quarter were $32.4 million and operating profits were $7.5 million, both in line with the previous three quarters, both solid and steady. The questions I received, however, they were not related to this solid performance, but rather the change as compared to the June 2025 quarter, which our 10-Q presents some comparison of the quarter-on-quarter changes. The June 2025 quarter was Elite's best quarter ever, so far. Got a lot of questions on the top-line revenue decrease and what we're doing to increase the top line in the future. Got questions on COGS and margins, and I'll address all of them. Let's start by looking at the June 2025 quarter and how it compares to all of the quarters that followed.
Speaker #6: Both are in line with the previous three quarters—both solid and steady. The questions I received, however, were not related to this solid performance, but rather to the change as compared to the June 2025 quarter.
Speaker #6: Which is our 10-Q, presents them, comparison the quarter-on-quarter changes. The June 2025 quarter was ELITE's best quarter ever—so far. Got a lot of questions on the top-line revenue decrease and what we're doing to increase the top line in the future.
Speaker #6: I've got questions on COGS and margins, and I'll address all of them. Let's start by looking at the June 2025 quarter and how it compares to all of the quarters that followed.
Speaker #6: It's really a textbook example of how the generic market works. First, keep in mind it takes several years to commercialize a product. That's the pipeline we always talk about.
Carter Ward: It's really a textbook example of how the generic market works. First, keep in mind, it takes several years to commercialize a product. That's the pipeline we always talk about. Pipeline is the lifeblood of any generic company. Say that every time, every call, many times, I'm sure. You have to identify opportunities well in advance, and then you spend a few years getting an ANDA approved so that you're ready when the generic market does come online. That's what we did with generic VYVANSE, the lisdexamfetamine. We launched that in early 2025. We captured a decent market share and at attractive prices. Most importantly, the lisdexamfetamine market was a generic market in its initial stage, and that is the key. Also key is that the generic market is defined by competition. We weren't the only company launching into the lisdexamfetamine market.
Carter Ward: It's really a textbook example of how the generic market works. First, keep in mind, it takes several years to commercialize a product. That's the pipeline we always talk about. Pipeline is the lifeblood of any generic company. Say that every time, every call, many times, I'm sure. You have to identify opportunities well in advance, and then you spend a few years getting an ANDA approved so that you're ready when the generic market does come online. That's what we did with generic VYVANSE, the lisdexamfetamine. We launched that in early 2025. We captured a decent market share and at attractive prices. Most importantly, the lisdexamfetamine market was a generic market in its initial stage, and that is the key. Also key is that the generic market is defined by competition. We weren't the only company launching into the lisdexamfetamine market.
Speaker #6: Pipeline is the lifeblood of any generic company. I say that every time, every call—many times, I'm sure. So, you have to identify opportunities well in advance.
Speaker #6: And then you spend a few years getting in and approved so that you're ready when the generic market does come online. And that's what we did with generic Vyvanse, the lisdexamfetamine.
Speaker #6: LizDex amphetamine—we launched that in early 2025. We captured a decent market share and had attractive prices. Most importantly, the LizDex market was a generic market in its initial stage.
Speaker #6: And that is the key. Also key is that the generic market is defined by competition. We weren't the only company launching into the LizDex market.
Speaker #6: There were more than 10 companies doing the same as ELITE at that time, maybe even more than 15. So, you put that in the mix.
Carter Ward: There were more than 10 companies doing the same as Elite at that time, maybe even more than 15. You put that in the mix, that type of competition, and you have a fluid market at that point in time with competition increasing. As competition increases, prices decrease. Over time, the weaker, more inefficient companies can't make it at the lower prices. They drop out and eventually the market stabilizes and an equilibrium is reached. That's what happened during June/July 2025 time period. Elite came out of that correction with an intact market share, actually trending up with stable prices, volumes, and stable operations. Prices were lower than the initial market phase, but still solid. Elite is now established as a reliable supplier of choice for generic VYVANSE, just as we are the same for generic Adderall, and have been for years.
Carter Ward: There were more than 10 companies doing the same as Elite at that time, maybe even more than 15. You put that in the mix, that type of competition, and you have a fluid market at that point in time with competition increasing. As competition increases, prices decrease. Over time, the weaker, more inefficient companies can't make it at the lower prices. They drop out and eventually the market stabilizes and an equilibrium is reached. That's what happened during June/July 2025 time period. Elite came out of that correction with an intact market share, actually trending up with stable prices, volumes, and stable operations. Prices were lower than the initial market phase, but still solid. Elite is now established as a reliable supplier of choice for generic VYVANSE, just as we are the same for generic Adderall, and have been for years.
Speaker #6: That type of competition—and you have a fluid market at that point in time, with competition increasing. As competition increases, prices decrease. Over time, the weaker, more inefficient companies can't make it at the lower prices.
Speaker #6: They drop out, and eventually the market stabilizes and an equilibrium is reached. That's what happened during the June–July 2025 time period. ELITE came out of that correction with an intact market share.
Speaker #6: Actually trending up with stable prices, volumes, and stable operations. Prices were lower than the initial market phase, but still solid. And Elite is now established as a reliable supplier of choice for generic Vyvanse.
Speaker #6: Just as we are the same for generic Adderall, and have been for years. So, count Vyvanse in that category as well now. So, you need to keep all this in mind when the questions ask about comparing June 2026 to June 2025.
Carter Ward: So count VYVANSE in that category as well now. You need to keep all this in mind when the questions ask about comparing June 2026 to June 2025. In June 2025, the market was higher, hadn't reached the equilibrium that it has now. June 2026, we're at the steady state. In fact, we've been at steady market states for the last four quarters now, approximately. Q2 through Q4 of last year, and this year, Q1. So the results over that time period, those four quarters, they've been pretty steady and solid. Prices are lower than the initial market phase, but the volumes are trending up. Talking about volumes. Well, volumes are our main driver of COGS, cost of goods sold. Got a lot of questions overnight on cost of goods sold. Just so you know, there's a positive correlation between the two, more volume, more COGS.
Carter Ward: So count VYVANSE in that category as well now. You need to keep all this in mind when the questions ask about comparing June 2026 to June 2025. In June 2025, the market was higher, hadn't reached the equilibrium that it has now. June 2026, we're at the steady state. In fact, we've been at steady market states for the last four quarters now, approximately. Q2 through Q4 of last year, and this year, Q1. So the results over that time period, those four quarters, they've been pretty steady and solid. Prices are lower than the initial market phase, but the volumes are trending up. Talking about volumes. Well, volumes are our main driver of COGS, cost of goods sold. Got a lot of questions overnight on cost of goods sold. Just so you know, there's a positive correlation between the two, more volume, more COGS.
Speaker #6: In June 2025, the market was higher and hadn’t reached equilibrium—that it has now. By June 2026, we were at the steady state. In fact, we’ve been in a steady market state for the last four quarters now, approximately.
Speaker #6: Q3 through Q4 of last year, and this year, Q1. So, the results over that time period—those four quarters—they've been pretty steady, steady, and solid.
Speaker #6: Prices are lower than in the initial market phase, but the volumes are trending up. Talking about volumes—volumes are our main driver of COGS, cost of goods sold.
Speaker #6: We get a lot of questions overnight on cost of goods sold. Just so you know, there's a positive correlation between the two—more volume, more COGS.
Speaker #6: But also, with respect to COGS, there's a different mix this year compared to last year. It's not just LizDex in the COGS. Most notable would be Naltrexone, which we weren't selling last year, but we are selling this year and selling quite a bit of it.
Carter Ward: But also with respect to COGS, there is also different mix this year as compared to last year. It is not just lisdexamfetamine in the COGS. Most notable would be naltrexone, which we were not selling last year, but we are selling this year and selling quite a bit of it. Naltrexone is an expensive ingredient, active ingredient, so that drives up COGS. Hope that answers the questions on 2026 versus 2025. There is more going on here than just how a product launch works and what happens. In that regard, I got some questions on what are the next steps, what are we doing to grow revenues in the future? To answer that, let us look back over the past few years, because I always like to say that looking at the past can give you some insight into the future. So let us go back to the beginning of this decade, early 2020s.
Carter Ward: But also with respect to COGS, there is also different mix this year as compared to last year. It is not just lisdexamfetamine in the COGS. Most notable would be naltrexone, which we were not selling last year, but we are selling this year and selling quite a bit of it. Naltrexone is an expensive ingredient, active ingredient, so that drives up COGS. Hope that answers the questions on 2026 versus 2025. There is more going on here than just how a product launch works and what happens. In that regard, I got some questions on what are the next steps, what are we doing to grow revenues in the future? To answer that, let us look back over the past few years, because I always like to say that looking at the past can give you some insight into the future. So let us go back to the beginning of this decade, early 2020s.
Speaker #6: Naltrexone's expensive ingredient—the active ingredient—drives up COGS. Hope that answers the questions on 2026 versus 2025. But there's more going on here than just how a product launch works and what happens.
Speaker #6: Now, regarding that, I have some questions on what the next steps are. What are we doing to grow revenues in the future? To answer that, let's look back over the past few years, because I always like to say that looking at the past can give you some insight into the future.
Speaker #6: So, let's go back to the beginning of this decade—early 2020, the 2020s. There was no ELITE label. Back then, we sold private label phentermine, naltrexone, and a few other products.
Carter Ward: There was no Elite label, and back then we sold private label phentermine, naltrexone, a few other products. Then we launched the private label generic Adderall. That took us to another level. Revenues were around in the low $30 million or so. This is annual revenues. If you notice, we are above that for quarterly revenue now. We launched the generic private label Adderall. Revenues reached $30 million. Then we launched the Elite label in 2023, and that brought us up several levels. The revenues crossed the $80 million mark annually and growing. Then last year, we launched generic VYVANSE and again cranked it up a few more levels and the revenues were above $140 million last year, almost $150 million, actually. So that is how we got to where we are today. But the question is, what is next? Well, that is the pipeline. We always talk about the pipeline.
Carter Ward: There was no Elite label, and back then we sold private label phentermine, naltrexone, a few other products. Then we launched the private label generic Adderall. That took us to another level. Revenues were around in the low $30 million or so. This is annual revenues. If you notice, we are above that for quarterly revenue now. We launched the generic private label Adderall. Revenues reached $30 million. Then we launched the Elite label in 2023, and that brought us up several levels. The revenues crossed the $80 million mark annually and growing. Then last year, we launched generic VYVANSE and again cranked it up a few more levels and the revenues were above $140 million last year, almost $150 million, actually. So that is how we got to where we are today. But the question is, what is next? Well, that is the pipeline. We always talk about the pipeline.
Speaker #6: Then we launched the private label generic Adderall. That took us to another level. Revenues were around the low $30 million or so.
Speaker #6: This is annual revenues. If you notice, we're above that for a quarterly revenue now. But we launched the generic private label Adderall. Revenues reached $30 million.
Speaker #6: Then we launched the ELITE label in 2023, and that brought us up several levels. The revenues crossed the $80 million mark annually, and they're still growing.
Speaker #6: Then last year, we launched generic Vyvanse and, again, cranked it up a few more levels. The revenues were above $140 million last year—almost $150 million, actually.
Speaker #6: So that's how we got to where we are today. But the question is, well, what's next? Well, that's the pipeline. We always talk about the pipeline.
Speaker #6: You have to remember, all of our products were once in the pipeline. Adderall, Vyvanse—all these products were pipeline products at one time. It's the pipeline that brought us to where we are today.
Carter Ward: You have to remember, all of our products were once in the pipeline. Adderall, VYVANSE, all these products were pipeline products at one time. It is the pipeline that brought us to where we are today. It is also the pipeline that will continue to grow Elite's revenues and our profits. As always, Nasrat Hakim is going to talk more about the pipeline, but from a finance perspective, we continue to fund product development and our business model remains the same as it was for the past product launches. We have grown Elite by using a robust pipeline that we keep filled and we keep it moving. There is velocity through our pipeline. We are going to continue to doing that, and that will grow revenues and profits in the future. So I hope that answers those questions. Before moving on, one last question I received on revenues, and it comes from the revenue concentration footnote.
Carter Ward: You have to remember, all of our products were once in the pipeline. Adderall, VYVANSE, all these products were pipeline products at one time. It is the pipeline that brought us to where we are today. It is also the pipeline that will continue to grow Elite's revenues and our profits. As always, Nasrat Hakim is going to talk more about the pipeline, but from a finance perspective, we continue to fund product development and our business model remains the same as it was for the past product launches. We have grown Elite by using a robust pipeline that we keep filled and we keep it moving. There is velocity through our pipeline. We are going to continue to doing that, and that will grow revenues and profits in the future. So I hope that answers those questions. Before moving on, one last question I received on revenues, and it comes from the revenue concentration footnote.
Speaker #6: It's also the pipeline that will continue to grow ELITE's revenues and our profits. As always, Nazareth is going to talk more about the pipeline. But from a finance perspective, we continue to fund product development.
Speaker #6: And our business model remains the same as it was for the past product launches. We've grown ELITE by using a robust pipeline that we keep filled, and we keep it moving.
Speaker #6: There's velocity through our pipeline. We're going to continue doing that, and that will grow revenues and profits in the future. So I hope that answers those questions.
Speaker #6: Before moving on, one last question I received on revenues, and it comes from the revenue concentration footnote. The question was, ELITE's biggest customer now accounts for 60% of revenues, versus 51% last year.
Carter Ward: Question was, Elite's biggest customer now accounts for 60% of revenues versus 51% last year. Are overall revenues down because this customer is requiring price concessions? Do they control so much of the market that Elite cannot diversify away from them? The generic market is highly concentrated in a few large wholesalers. That is true for everybody, not just for Elite. We all have to deal with them. But the reductions in price, the stabilization or the correction in prices, especially in the lisdexamfetamine, it is not a result of customer concentration, but rather it is the overall interaction of supply, demand, competition, the traditional market concepts, the economics that drive prices in the generic market and in pretty much any market. So that is the real explanation for price fluctuations, not really customer concentration. Moving down to P&L, we have research and development.
Carter Ward: Question was, Elite's biggest customer now accounts for 60% of revenues versus 51% last year. Are overall revenues down because this customer is requiring price concessions? Do they control so much of the market that Elite cannot diversify away from them? The generic market is highly concentrated in a few large wholesalers. That is true for everybody, not just for Elite. We all have to deal with them. But the reductions in price, the stabilization or the correction in prices, especially in the lisdexamfetamine, it is not a result of customer concentration, but rather it is the overall interaction of supply, demand, competition, the traditional market concepts, the economics that drive prices in the generic market and in pretty much any market. So that is the real explanation for price fluctuations, not really customer concentration. Moving down to P&L, we have research and development.
Speaker #6: Our overall revenues are down because this customer is requiring price concessions. Do they control so much of the market that ELITE cannot diversify away from them?
Speaker #6: The generic market is highly concentrated in a few large wholesalers. That's true for everybody, not just for ELITE. We all have to deal with them.
Speaker #6: But the reductions in price, the stabilization of the correction in prices, especially in the LisDex, it's not a result of customer concentration, but rather it's the overall interaction of supply, demand, competition—the traditional market concepts, the economics that drive prices in the generic market and in pretty much any market.
Speaker #6: So that's the real explanation for price fluctuations, not really customer concentration. Moving down the P&L, we have research and development. R&D expense was $2.0 million this year for the quarter, compared to $1.7 million in last year's June 2025 quarter.
Carter Ward: R&D expense was $2 million this year for the quarter compared to $1.7 million last year's June 2025 quarter. That is the pipeline development I just spoke of. We did have quite an eventful quarter for R&D. During this quarter, we launched methadone. During this quarter, and just after the quarter, we launched ropinirole. We filed an ANDA, an ANDA during this quarter. We had a successful pivotal bioequivalence study, which is quite a big deal. So all of that in this quarter itself. Once again, pipeline is the lifeblood, and we are very healthy when it comes to that area of the company. Moving on to the cash flow statement. Cash provided by operations was $10.1 million this year compared to $14.8 million last year. Again, very solid, $10.1 million.
Carter Ward: R&D expense was $2 million this year for the quarter compared to $1.7 million last year's June 2025 quarter. That is the pipeline development I just spoke of. We did have quite an eventful quarter for R&D. During this quarter, we launched methadone. During this quarter, and just after the quarter, we launched ropinirole. We filed an ANDA, an ANDA during this quarter. We had a successful pivotal bioequivalence study, which is quite a big deal. So all of that in this quarter itself. Once again, pipeline is the lifeblood, and we are very healthy when it comes to that area of the company. Moving on to the cash flow statement. Cash provided by operations was $10.1 million this year compared to $14.8 million last year. Again, very solid, $10.1 million.
Speaker #6: That's the pipeline development I just spoke of. We did have quite an eventful quarter. For R&D, during this quarter, we launched methadone.
Speaker #6: And just after the quarter, we launched ropinirole. We filed an NDA and an ANDA during this quarter. We had a successful, pivotal bio study, which is quite a big deal.
Speaker #6: So, all of that is in this quarter itself. Once again, pipeline is the lifeblood, and we're very healthy when it comes to that area of the company.
Speaker #6: Moving on to the cash flow statement. Cash provided by operations was $10.1 million this year, compared to $14.8 million last year. Again, very solid—$10.1 million.
Speaker #6: While it's less than last year's extraordinary quarter, the cash flow this quarter was better than the last three, the subsequent quarters to last year.
Carter Ward: While it is less than last year's extraordinary quarter, the cash flow this quarter was better than the subsequent quarters to last year. So the last three quarters, we had better cash flow in the June 2026 quarter than we did Q2, Q3, and Q4 of last year. On to the balance sheet, which continues to strengthen. Cash is $38.9 million, up from $29.8 million at the beginning of the year. Did receive a question noting this cash accumulation and asking what plans do we have as far as deploying and utilizing that level of liquidity. As always, we say all the time, new products, they are a top priority for us, as is ensuring we are able to make the products, so operational capacity. So we are always evaluating options in those areas and having this type of liquidity definitely helps us as to options that are feasible for us to achieve.
Carter Ward: While it is less than last year's extraordinary quarter, the cash flow this quarter was better than the subsequent quarters to last year. So the last three quarters, we had better cash flow in the June 2026 quarter than we did Q2, Q3, and Q4 of last year. On to the balance sheet, which continues to strengthen. Cash is $38.9 million, up from $29.8 million at the beginning of the year. Did receive a question noting this cash accumulation and asking what plans do we have as far as deploying and utilizing that level of liquidity. As always, we say all the time, new products, they are a top priority for us, as is ensuring we are able to make the products, so operational capacity. So we are always evaluating options in those areas and having this type of liquidity definitely helps us as to options that are feasible for us to achieve.
Speaker #6: So the last three quarters, we had better cash flow in the June 2020 sixth quarter than we did in Q2, Q3, and Q4 of last year.
Speaker #6: Onto the balance sheet, which continues to strengthen. Cash is $38.9 million, up from $29.8 million at the beginning of the year. We did receive a question noting this cash accumulation and asking what plans do we have as far as deploying and utilizing it.
Speaker #6: That level of liquidity. As always, we say all the time, new products are a top priority for us, as is ensuring we're able to make the products.
Speaker #6: Operational capacity. So we're always evaluating options in those areas, and having this type of liquidity definitely helps us in terms of options that are feasible for us to achieve.
Speaker #6: So, to answer the questions, plans for utilization of cash resources are focused on new products, growing our product line, and facility improvements enabling us to make the new products.
Carter Ward: So to answer the questions, plans for utilization of cash resources are focused on new products, growing our product line, and facility improvements enabling us to make the new products and to increase our volumes on our existing products. Working capital was $84.1 million as of 30 June of this year, 2026. That is actually down from the beginning of the year, where working capital was $94.7 million. So I got a question on that. They wanted to know why the decrease, since we had such profits, such positive cash flow, how could working capital go down? Logical question. Good question. Well, remember, working capital is current assets minus current liabilities. And if you look at the line item in the liability section for warrant derivatives, you will see at the beginning of the year, the warrants were classified as long-term liabilities, meaning not part of working capitals.
Carter Ward: So to answer the questions, plans for utilization of cash resources are focused on new products, growing our product line, and facility improvements enabling us to make the new products and to increase our volumes on our existing products. Working capital was $84.1 million as of 30 June of this year, 2026. That is actually down from the beginning of the year, where working capital was $94.7 million. So I got a question on that. They wanted to know why the decrease, since we had such profits, such positive cash flow, how could working capital go down? Logical question. Good question. Well, remember, working capital is current assets minus current liabilities. And if you look at the line item in the liability section for warrant derivatives, you will see at the beginning of the year, the warrants were classified as long-term liabilities, meaning not part of working capitals.
Speaker #6: And to increase our volumes on our existing products. Working capital was $84.1 million as of June 30th of this year, 2026. That's actually down from the beginning of the year.
Speaker #6: Our working capital was $94.7 million. So I got a question on that. They wanted to know, why the decrease? Since we had such profits, such positive cash flow, how could working capital go down?
Speaker #6: Logical question, good question. Well, remember, working capital is current assets minus current liabilities. And if you look at the line item in the liability section for warrant derivatives, you'll see at the beginning of the year, the warrants were classified as long-term liabilities, meaning not part of working capital.
Speaker #6: But at June 30th, they were classified as a current liability, meaning part of working capital, bringing working capital down. Current liabilities, they come due in less than a year.
Carter Ward: But at 30 June, they were classified as current liability, meaning part of working capital, bringing working capital down. Current liabilities, they come due in less than a year, and the warrants expire in April 2027. So April 2027 is less than a year from June 2026, so they are current. More than a year from March 2026, so they were not current. The result is we have a $17 million non-cash, that is the key, non-cash liability, which was previously not included as a reduction in working capital, and it is now included as a reduction in working capital. So that is how working capital can go down even if you have profits and strong cash flow. Working capital decreased overall by $10 million, but we moved $17 million in non-cash liabilities from long-term to current during this quarter.
Carter Ward: But at 30 June, they were classified as current liability, meaning part of working capital, bringing working capital down. Current liabilities, they come due in less than a year, and the warrants expire in April 2027. So April 2027 is less than a year from June 2026, so they are current. More than a year from March 2026, so they were not current. The result is we have a $17 million non-cash, that is the key, non-cash liability, which was previously not included as a reduction in working capital, and it is now included as a reduction in working capital. So that is how working capital can go down even if you have profits and strong cash flow. Working capital decreased overall by $10 million, but we moved $17 million in non-cash liabilities from long-term to current during this quarter.
Speaker #6: And the warrants expire in April 2027. So, April 2027 is less than a year from June 2026. So they are current—more than a year from March 2026.
Speaker #6: So they were not current. The result is we have a $17 million non-cash—that's the key, non-cash—liability, which was previously not included as a reduction in working capital, and it's now included as a reduction in working capital.
Speaker #6: So that's how working capital can go down even if you have profits and strong cash flow. Working capital decreased overall by $10 million, but we moved $17 million in non-cash liabilities from long-term to current during this quarter.
Speaker #6: So it's easy to do the math, and you can see there's effectively a strengthening of our working capital position, which you should have when you have this type of profits and this type of cash flow.
Carter Ward: So it is easy to do the math and you can see there is effectively a strengthening of our working capital position, which you should have when you have this type of profits and this type of cash flow. And finally, since we are on the subject of warrant derivatives, I got the usual questions on what is going on with the warrants. Well, like I said, they expire in April 2027. So there are three possible outcomes with these warrants, all of which will happen on or before April 2027. The first outcome that is possible is the warrants will be exercised for cash. That would be nice. Elite would get around $12 million in cash for the warrant exercise.
Carter Ward: So it is easy to do the math and you can see there is effectively a strengthening of our working capital position, which you should have when you have this type of profits and this type of cash flow. And finally, since we are on the subject of warrant derivatives, I got the usual questions on what is going on with the warrants. Well, like I said, they expire in April 2027. So there are three possible outcomes with these warrants, all of which will happen on or before April 2027. The first outcome that is possible is the warrants will be exercised for cash. That would be nice. Elite would get around $12 million in cash for the warrant exercise.
Speaker #6: And finally, since we're on the subject of warrant derivatives, I got the usual questions on what's going on with the warrants. Well, like I said, they expire in April 2027.
Speaker #6: So, there are three possible outcomes with these warrants, all of which will happen on or before April 2027. The first possible outcome is that the warrants will be exercised for cash.
Speaker #6: That would be nice. Elite would get around $12 million in cash for the warrant exercise. Second outcome, the warrants provide for a cashless exercise.
Carter Ward: Second outcome, the warrants provide for a cashless exercise, so the number of shares will be in a cashless exercise, less than 79 million, and it is really based upon the stock price at the time of the exercise. The higher the price at the time, the more shares of the 79 million that get issued. The lower price, the less shares that get issued. But in all cases, it will be less than 79 million shares. That is just how the math works. And the third outcome is probably not going to happen, but it is that the warrants expire without exercise on their expiration date. So they just end in accordance with contract without anything happening. We are discussing these options with Nasrat Hakim, the warrant holder, and we expect resolution before April 2027 of these.
Carter Ward: Second outcome, the warrants provide for a cashless exercise, so the number of shares will be in a cashless exercise, less than 79 million, and it is really based upon the stock price at the time of the exercise. The higher the price at the time, the more shares of the 79 million that get issued. The lower price, the less shares that get issued. But in all cases, it will be less than 79 million shares. That is just how the math works. And the third outcome is probably not going to happen, but it is that the warrants expire without exercise on their expiration date. So they just end in accordance with contract without anything happening. We are discussing these options with Nasrat Hakim, the warrant holder, and we expect resolution before April 2027 of these.
Speaker #6: So the number of shares in a cashless exercise will be less than 79 million, and it's really based upon the stock price at the time of the exercise.
Speaker #6: The higher the price at the time, the more shares of the 79 million that get issued; the lower the price, the fewer shares that get issued.
Speaker #6: But in all cases, it will be less than 79 million shares. That's just how the math works. And the third outcome is probably not going to happen, but it's that the warrants expire without exercise on their expiration date.
Speaker #6: So, they just end in accordance with the contract without anything happening. We're discussing these options with Nasrat Hakim, the warrant holder, and we expect resolution before April 2027 on these.
Speaker #6: To sum up the financials, we had strong performance. Revenues, profits, and cash flow are all steady and strong, and they're all in line with the last three quarters.
Carter Ward: To sum up the financials, we had strong performance, revenues, profits, cash flow, all steady and strong, and they are all in line with the last three quarters. If you are comparing this year to last year, remember the June 2025 quarter was an extraordinary quarter, really due to the natural price adjustment cycle that defines how generic markets work. We launched lisdexamfetamine into a fluid initial state market, which had higher prices, which eventually corrected and has since reached a steady state, and that is where we are today. Product development, most important, product development continues. It is on schedule for future product line expansion and the same growth through the generic life cycle that brought us to where we are today. So now I would like to introduce our Chairman and CEO, Mr. Nasrat Hakim.
Carter Ward: To sum up the financials, we had strong performance, revenues, profits, cash flow, all steady and strong, and they are all in line with the last three quarters. If you are comparing this year to last year, remember the June 2025 quarter was an extraordinary quarter, really due to the natural price adjustment cycle that defines how generic markets work. We launched lisdexamfetamine into a fluid initial state market, which had higher prices, which eventually corrected and has since reached a steady state, and that is where we are today. Product development, most important, product development continues. It is on schedule for future product line expansion and the same growth through the generic life cycle that brought us to where we are today. So now I would like to introduce our Chairman and CEO, Mr. Nasrat Hakim.
Speaker #6: If you're comparing this year to last year, remember the June 2025 quarter was an extraordinary quarter, really due to the natural price adjustment cycle that defines how generic markets work.
Speaker #6: We launched Lizdex into a fluid, initial state market. We've had higher prices, which eventually corrected, and have since reached a steady state. That's where we are today.
Speaker #6: Product development is most important. Product development continues and it's on schedule for future product line expansion, and the same growth through the generic life cycle that brought us to where we are today.
Speaker #6: So now, I'd like to introduce our Chairman and CEO, Mr. Nasrat Hakim.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Carter. And thanks for the analysis. It's not the best way to look at financials, to compare today's quarter with a year ago.
Nasrat Hakim: Thank you, Carter, and thanks for the analysis. The best way to look at financials is to compare today's quarter with a year ago because of seasonal changes and because of so many other factors, so you will compare apples to apples. For example, most of sales of perfume happen around the Christmas, so you cannot say that the following quarter we did not do very well or the prices crashed. You have to look an entire year and compare that. Our business is no different, so we do that. However, there are exceptions. I have been in this business for 40 years, and I have seen this phenomenon many times. Whenever a company gets an exclusivity because they are the first to file, they get 180 days to sell the products along with the brand. That is two quarters. And during these quarters, they make a lot of money.
Nasrat Hakim: Thank you, Carter, and thanks for the analysis. The best way to look at financials is to compare today's quarter with a year ago because of seasonal changes and because of so many other factors, so you will compare apples to apples. For example, most of sales of perfume happen around the Christmas, so you cannot say that the following quarter we did not do very well or the prices crashed. You have to look an entire year and compare that. Our business is no different, so we do that. However, there are exceptions. I have been in this business for 40 years, and I have seen this phenomenon many times. Whenever a company gets an exclusivity because they are the first to file, they get 180 days to sell the products along with the brand. That is two quarters. And during these quarters, they make a lot of money.
Speaker #2: Because of seasonal changes, and because of so many other factors, you'll compare apples to apples. For example, most of the sales of perfume have been around Christmas.
Speaker #2: So you cannot say that, the following quarter, we didn't do very well or the prices crashed. You have to wait an entire year and compare that.
Speaker #2: Our business is no different, so we do that. However, there are exceptions, okay? I've been in this business for 40 years, and I've seen this phenomenon many times.
Speaker #2: Whenever a company gets exclusivity because they are the first to file, they get 180 days to sell the product alone with the brand.
Speaker #2: Okay? That's two quarters. And during these quarters, they make a lot of money. They make a killing because they're selling at brand prices, which are hundreds of times higher than generics.
Nasrat Hakim: Well, they make a killing because they are selling at brand prices, which is hundreds of times higher than generics. That expires in two quarters, and then a year later, when you are comparing that quarter to a quarter a year later, the revenues and profits will go down. And statistically, it looks bad in comparison. However, it is a very good problem to have. In our case, we were really lucky. We came in at the tail end of the higher prices and end up having a very good quarter. That is not a bad thing. It looks bad when you compare it to today's quarter. However, our sales are steady, our profits are excellent, and the company is doing great.
Nasrat Hakim: Well, they make a killing because they are selling at brand prices, which is hundreds of times higher than generics. That expires in two quarters, and then a year later, when you are comparing that quarter to a quarter a year later, the revenues and profits will go down. And statistically, it looks bad in comparison. However, it is a very good problem to have. In our case, we were really lucky. We came in at the tail end of the higher prices and end up having a very good quarter. That is not a bad thing. It looks bad when you compare it to today's quarter. However, our sales are steady, our profits are excellent, and the company is doing great.
Speaker #2: Well, that expires into quarters, and then a year later, when you're comparing that quarter to a quarter a year later, the revenues and profits will go down.
Speaker #2: And statistically, it'll look bad in comparison. However, it's a very good problem to have. In our case, we were really lucky. We came in at the tail end of the higher prices and ended up having a very good quarter.
Speaker #2: That's not a bad thing. It looks bad when you compare it to this quarter, but our sales are steady, our profits are excellent, and the company is doing great.
Speaker #2: So, saying the revenues from 2027 first fiscal quarter are lower than the same period of the prior fiscal quarter revenues and income, not because Elite did not do very well this quarter, but because the specific quarter last year was very good due to the Lizdex launch and higher prices.
Nasrat Hakim: Saying the revenues from 2027 first fiscal quarter are lower than the same period of the prior fiscal quarter revenues and income, not because ELITE did not do very well this quarter, but because this specific quarter was very good due to lisdexamfetamine launch and higher prices. For the last four quarters, our market shares have been increasing for all of our major products: lisdexamfetamine, Amphetamine IR, Amphetamine ER, and naltrexone. I will give you a couple of high-level numbers. The difference between the quarter last year and this quarter, the volume went up 14.75 overall, 10% for lisdexamfetamine. Again, even though the price tightened a year ago, have been steadily selling and expanding our markets. We have expanded it by 10.2%, which is an excellent achievement. The reason we made money a year ago is, again, because the prices were a lot higher then. It just came out as generic.
Nasrat Hakim: Saying the revenues from 2027 first fiscal quarter are lower than the same period of the prior fiscal quarter revenues and income, not because ELITE did not do very well this quarter, but because this specific quarter was very good due to lisdexamfetamine launch and higher prices. For the last four quarters, our market shares have been increasing for all of our major products: lisdexamfetamine, Amphetamine IR, Amphetamine ER, and naltrexone. I will give you a couple of high-level numbers. The difference between the quarter last year and this quarter, the volume went up 14.75 overall, 10% for lisdexamfetamine. Again, even though the price tightened a year ago, have been steadily selling and expanding our markets. We have expanded it by 10.2%, which is an excellent achievement. The reason we made money a year ago is, again, because the prices were a lot higher then.
Speaker #2: Over the last four quarters, our market shares have been increasing for all of our major products—Lizdex, Fatimian IR, Fatimian, and Naltrexone. I'll give you a couple of high-level numbers.
Speaker #2: The difference between the quarter last year and this quarter, the volume went up 14.75% overall—10% for Lizdex. Again, even though the price tightened a year ago, we have been steadily selling and expanding our market.
Speaker #2: We've expanded it by 10.2%, which is an excellent achievement. The reason we made money a year ago is, again, because the prices were a lot higher, as it had just come out as generic.
Nasrat Hakim: It just came out as generic.
Speaker #2: So, for our four largest products—Lizdex, the generic for Vyvanse; Mix and Fatimian IR; and Fatimian and Naltrexone—we have increased the market share and are now maintaining prices.
Nasrat Hakim: For our four largest products, lisdexamfetamine, generic for VYVANSE, mixed Amphetamine IR, Amphetamine ER, and naltrexone, we have increased the market share and are now maintaining prices. Our legacy products, isradipine, trimipramine, Phendimetrazine, and phentermine, sales and marketing shares were also in line with previous. Our recently launched combo products, acetaminophen and codeine, oxycodone and acetaminophen, hydrocodone and acetaminophen, and methadone, were in line with historical sales and improving. In the long term, all of these products are expected to continue to grow. New product launches, we have had also two of them. We have had methadone in April and ropinirole ER in July. Both products will contribute to our future growth. We had a good quarter for our pipeline. ELITE reported a successful BE study for an undisclosed anticonvulsant product, a seizure medication. The brand product has annual sales of $840 million according to IQVIA.
Nasrat Hakim: For our four largest products, lisdexamfetamine, generic for VYVANSE, mixed Amphetamine IR, Amphetamine ER, and naltrexone, we have increased the market share and are now maintaining prices. Our legacy products, isradipine, trimipramine, Phendimetrazine, and phentermine, sales and marketing shares were also in line with previous. Our recently launched combo products, acetaminophen and codeine, oxycodone and acetaminophen, hydrocodone and acetaminophen, and methadone, were in line with historical sales and improving. In the long term, all of these products are expected to continue to grow. New product launches, we have had also two of them. We have had methadone in April and ropinirole ER in July. Both products will contribute to our future growth. We had a good quarter for our pipeline. ELITE reported a successful BE study for an undisclosed anticonvulsant product, a seizure medication. The brand product has annual sales of $840 million according to IQVIA.
Speaker #2: Our legacy products are primarily Trimipramine, Fendametazine, and Fentamine. Sales and marketing shares were also in line with previous years. Our recently launched combo products—APAP with Codeine, Oxy-APAP, Hydro-APAP, and Methadone—were in line with historical sales and improving.
Speaker #2: In the long term, all of these products are expected to continue to grow. New product launches—we've had two of them. We've had Methadone in April and Ropinirole in July.
Speaker #2: Both products will contribute to our future growth. We had a good quarter for our pipeline. Elite reported a successful BE study for an undisclosed anticonvulsant product, a seizure medication.
Speaker #2: The brand product has annual sales of $840 million according to IQVIA. We are currently putting together the FDA filing for this product. Elite filed an undisclosed anticoagulant product in June.
Nasrat Hakim: We are currently putting together the FDA filing for this product. ELITE filed an undisclosed anticoagulant product in June. It is a substantial product that is not yet off patent and IQVIA report $26 billion in sales. We are in negotiation with the brand about the patent and filing for market entry. ELITE's Oxy ER, a generic for OxyContin ER, which we have reported on in previous calls, continue to be under review by the FDA. Regarding merger and acquisition, as discussed in our last call, we continue to evaluate buyout and uplisting, and I will be speaking about that more in Q&A, which is coming up next. We are looking for the alternative that provides the most value for our shareholders. And we will talk about that in a second. As we proceed with these alternatives, we will update you when a material event occurs.
Nasrat Hakim: We are currently putting together the FDA filing for this product. ELITE filed an undisclosed anticoagulant product in June. It is a substantial product that is not yet off patent and IQVIA report $26 billion in sales. We are in negotiation with the brand about the patent and filing for market entry. ELITE's Oxy ER, a generic for OxyContin ER, which we have reported on in previous calls, continue to be under review by the FDA. Regarding merger and acquisition, as discussed in our last call, we continue to evaluate buyout and uplisting, and I will be speaking about that more in Q&A, which is coming up next. We are looking for the alternative that provides the most value for our shareholders. And we will talk about that in a second. As we proceed with these alternatives, we will update you when a material event occurs.
Speaker #2: It is a substantial product that is not yet off patent, and the IQVIA report shows $26 billion in sales. We are in negotiation with the brand about the patent and timing for market entry.
Speaker #2: Elite's Oxy-ER, generic for OxyContin, which we have reported on in previous calls, continues to be under review by the FDA. Regarding mergers and acquisitions, as discussed in our last call, we continue to evaluate buyout and uplisting.
Speaker #2: And I will be speaking about that more in the Q&A, which is coming up next. We are looking for the alternative that provides the most value for our shareholders.
Speaker #2: And we'll talk about that in a second. As we proceed with these alternatives, we will update you when a material event occurs. So, let me go to Q&A and speak about three of the different sets of questions you've asked, in sequence.
Nasrat Hakim: Let me go to Q&A and speak about three of the different sets of questions you have asked in sequence. The tariffs and their effect on M&A, M&A, and then Nasdaq, before I get into the rest of the questions. I will read a couple of questions just to honor the people who have been sending questions. I am not going to read them all because many of you sent similar questions about the same subject. A couple of the questions. "You said all API have been tariff-exempt, and tariffs are not affecting M&A negotiations.
Nasrat Hakim: Let me go to Q&A and speak about three of the different sets of questions you have asked in sequence. The tariffs and their effect on M&A, M&A, and then Nasdaq, before I get into the rest of the questions. I will read a couple of questions just to honor the people who have been sending questions. I am not going to read them all because many of you sent similar questions about the same subject. A couple of the questions. "You said all API have been tariff-exempt, and tariffs are not affecting M&A negotiations.
Speaker #2: The turfs and their effect on M&A. M&A, and then Nasdaq. Before I get into the rest of the questions, I'll read a couple of questions just to honor the people who've been sending them in.
Speaker #2: And I'm not going to read them all, because many of you sent similar questions about the same subject, okay? A couple of the questions: you said all API have been turf exempt.
Speaker #2: And turfs aren't affecting M&A negotiations. Have any of the parties that approach you been companies specifically pressured by the Trump turf environment, looking to acquire domestic manufacturing, and does that change the profile?
Nasrat Hakim: Have any of the parties that approach you, I mean, companies specifically pressured by the Trump tariff environment looking to acquire domestic manufacturing, and does that change the profile of who is likely to make an adequate offer?" "Can you please clarify if the upcoming tariff deadlines can affect or not affect the acquisition of Elite by a foreign drug company?" I am not going to read the rest of the questions. These two will give you enough flavor of what is on people's mind. Right now, there are no tariffs currently. There are plans to have 100% tariffs imposed on generics. It could start in August of 2028, and it could go up to 200% a year later. This is very big and positive news for Elite any way you look at it.
Nasrat Hakim: Have any of the parties that approach you, I mean, companies specifically pressured by the Trump tariff environment looking to acquire domestic manufacturing, and does that change the profile of who is likely to make an adequate offer?" "Can you please clarify if the upcoming tariff deadlines can affect or not affect the acquisition of Elite by a foreign drug company?" I am not going to read the rest of the questions. These two will give you enough flavor of what is on people's mind. Right now, there are no tariffs currently. There are plans to have 100% tariffs imposed on generics. It could start in August of 2028, and it could go up to 200% a year later. This is very big and positive news for Elite any way you look at it.
Speaker #2: Who is likely to make an adequate offer? Can you please clarify if the upcoming TURF deadlines can affect, or not affect, the acquisition of Elite by a foreign drug company?
Speaker #2: All right. I'm not going to read the rest of the questions. These two will give you enough flavor of what's on some people's minds. Right now, there are no TURFs currently.
Speaker #2: Okay? There are plans to have 100% tariffs imposed on generics. It could start in August of 2028, and it could go up to 200% a year later.
Speaker #2: This is very big and positive news for Elite. Any way you look at it, if they put turfs even on the API, we'll be like everybody else.
Nasrat Hakim: If they put tariffs even on the API, we will be like everybody else, and that would then disadvantage us. But if they put the tariffs, like the Trump administration is proposing, on the finished product, then that will give us a huge advantage over many manufacturers in India, China, and Eastern Europe who would have to pay these tariffs. So a company like that who is in India or China now is going to have to pay 100% or 200%. That gives us advantage in two ways. One, our pricing will be more competitive and hopefully will command more of the market. Two, these companies would want a presence in the US, and Elite would look like a very attractive company to either acquire or merge with. So yes, the tariffs will happen.
Nasrat Hakim: If they put tariffs even on the API, we will be like everybody else, and that would then disadvantage us. But if they put the tariffs, like the Trump administration is proposing, on the finished product, then that will give us a huge advantage over many manufacturers in India, China, and Eastern Europe who would have to pay these tariffs. So a company like that who is in India or China now is going to have to pay 100% or 200%. That gives us advantage in two ways. One, our pricing will be more competitive and hopefully will command more of the market. Two, these companies would want a presence in the US, and Elite would look like a very attractive company to either acquire or merge with. So yes, the tariffs will happen.
Speaker #2: And that wouldn't disadvantage us. But if they put the tariffs, like the Trump administration is proposing, on the finished product, then that will give us a huge advantage over many manufacturers in India, China, and Eastern Europe, who will have to pay these tariffs.
Speaker #2: So a company like that, who is in India or China, now is going to have to pay 100 or 200 percent. That gives us an advantage in two ways.
Speaker #2: First, our pricing will be more competitive, and hopefully, we'll command more of the market. Second, these companies would want a presence in the US, and Elite would look like a very attractive company to either acquire or merge with.
Speaker #2: So yes, the TURFs will happen. The issue is that they have not happened yet. And a lot of companies are waiting to see if the administration is going to force the issue or back down.
Nasrat Hakim: The issue is that they have not happened yet, and a lot of companies are waiting to see if the administration is going to force the issue or back down. In fact, the reason stated by Trump for the tariff strategy is to reward companies that manufacture here in the United States, whether they are Indian or Chinese. If they move their manufacturing facility or acquire somebody in the US, they will give them the reward of waiving these tariffs. This is great news for us. It just has not happened yet. It is in the plans, and everybody is watching it, and if it materializes, it is very welcome for us on both avenues. That leads us to what we are going to do next in Nasdaq.
Nasrat Hakim: The issue is that they have not happened yet, and a lot of companies are waiting to see if the administration is going to force the issue or back down. In fact, the reason stated by Trump for the tariff strategy is to reward companies that manufacture here in the United States, whether they are Indian or Chinese. If they move their manufacturing facility or acquire somebody in the US, they will give them the reward of waiving these tariffs. This is great news for us. It just has not happened yet. It is in the plans, and everybody is watching it, and if it materializes, it is very welcome for us on both avenues. That leads us to what we are going to do next in Nasdaq.
Speaker #2: In fact, the reason stated by Trump for the tariff strategy is to reward companies that manufacture here in the United States, whether they're Indian or Chinese.
Speaker #2: And if they move their manufacturing facility or acquire somebody in the US, they'll give them the reward of waiving these tariffs. So this is great news for us.
Speaker #2: It just hasn't happened yet. It is in the plans, and everybody is watching it. If it materializes, it's very welcome for us in both avenues.
Speaker #2: That leads us to what we're going to do next at Nasdaq. We're still working on finding a suitor, and we're renewing or extending the contract by six months with the current company we're working with.
Nasrat Hakim: We're still working on finding a suitor, and we're renewing the contract or extending the contract by 6 months with the current company we're working with, so we can finalize a couple of things. Regardless, Nasdaq is in motion, and I'll talk about that in a moment. Let me read you at least one of the questions about Nasdaq, and then I'll elaborate on that. Mr. Carter said you are ready for Nasdaq, and Mr. Hakim called OTC not an option anymore. Given the 30 September 2026 public float test that determines accelerated filer status, is there a target date for up-listing? Yes. Would you up-list as a stand-alone or only in combination with an M&A transaction? No, definitely we will go at Nasdaq alone, or we may purchase another company and then go, or if somebody acquire us. It's not only, okay?
Nasrat Hakim: We're still working on finding a suitor, and we're renewing the contract or extending the contract by 6 months with the current company we're working with, so we can finalize a couple of things. Regardless, Nasdaq is in motion, and I'll talk about that in a moment. Let me read you at least one of the questions about Nasdaq, and then I'll elaborate on that. Mr. Carter said you are ready for Nasdaq, and Mr. Hakim called OTC not an option anymore. Given the 30 September 2026 public float test that determines accelerated filer status, is there a target date for up-listing? Yes. Would you up-list as a stand-alone or only in combination with an M&A transaction? No, definitely we will go at Nasdaq alone, or we may purchase another company and then go, or if somebody acquire us. It's not only, okay?
Speaker #2: So we can finalize a couple of things. But regardless, Nasdaq is in motion, and I'll talk about that in a moment. So let me read you at least one of the questions about Nasdaq.
Speaker #2: And then I'll elaborate on that. Mr. Carter said you are ready for Nasdaq, and Mr. Hakeem called OTC not an option anymore. Given the September 30, 2026 floater test that determines accelerated filer status, is there a target date for uplifting?
Speaker #2: Yes. And would you uplift as a standalone, or only in combination with an M&A transaction? No, definitely, we will go to Nasdaq alone. Or we may purchase another company and then go.
Speaker #2: Or if somebody acquires us. It's not only—okay? So, we are open to all options. But regardless of what happens, we're going to be on Nasdaq.
Nasrat Hakim: We are open to all options, but regardless of what happens, we're going to be at Nasdaq. As to the question as what's your target date? It is not going to happen by the time we talk again, which is in November. My best guess is that by the time we talk after that in February, it'll be either just happened or about to be finalized. Okay. An interesting question on operations. If Elite is only currently running a single shift, what is the need for an additional facility expansion? Are you anticipating a large increase in product manufacturing or packaging needs? Our packaging needs are taken care of. We've resolved that issue, and we're good for years to come, but we'll talk about manufacturing in a second.
Nasrat Hakim: We are open to all options, but regardless of what happens, we're going to be at Nasdaq. As to the question as what's your target date? It is not going to happen by the time we talk again, which is in November. My best guess is that by the time we talk after that in February, it'll be either just happened or about to be finalized. Okay. An interesting question on operations. If Elite is only currently running a single shift, what is the need for an additional facility expansion? Are you anticipating a large increase in product manufacturing or packaging needs? Our packaging needs are taken care of. We've resolved that issue, and we're good for years to come, but we'll talk about manufacturing in a second.
Speaker #2: My answer to the question, 'What's your target date?' is that it is not going to happen by the time we talk again, which is in November.
Speaker #2: But my best guess is that by the time we talk after that, in February, it’ll have either just happened or be about to be finalized.
Speaker #2: Okay, that's an interesting question on operations. If Elite is currently running only a single shift, what is the need for an additional facility expansion? Are you anticipating a large increase in product manufacturing or packaging needs?
Speaker #2: Our packaging needs are taken care of. We've resolved that issue, and we're good for years to come. But we'll talk about manufacturing in a second.
Speaker #2: Another person asked about what you said the last time: you're assessing the new facility and you may pull the plug soon. When are you going to do that?
Nasrat Hakim: Another person asked about, you've said the last time you're assessing the new facility, and you may pull the plug soon. When are you going to do that? It is true that we're running only one shift right now. However, you set up your facility for the future. Currently, we are doing great, and our greatest asset is the attention deficit disorder CD products. That is a great pillar, but it's only one. The second one is a collection of a whole bunch of products. The vision is to ensure that we have multiple pillars. The blood thinner anticoagulant will be one. That one is already filed. We're already in negotiations to try and get it in 2028. Second one is an R&D, and between the two of them, that will be a substantial part of the market for blood thinners.
Nasrat Hakim: Another person asked about, you've said the last time you're assessing the new facility, and you may pull the plug soon. When are you going to do that? It is true that we're running only one shift right now. However, you set up your facility for the future. Currently, we are doing great, and our greatest asset is the attention deficit disorder CD products. That is a great pillar, but it's only one. The second one is a collection of a whole bunch of products. The vision is to ensure that we have multiple pillars. The blood thinner anticoagulant will be one. That one is already filed. We're already in negotiations to try and get it in 2028. Second one is an R&D, and between the two of them, that will be a substantial part of the market for blood thinners.
Speaker #2: It is true that we're running only one shift right now. However, you set up your facility for the future. Currently, we are doing great.
Speaker #2: And our greatest asset is the attention deficit disorder, C2 products. That is a great pillar, but it's only one. The second one is a collection of a whole bunch of products.
Speaker #2: So the vision is to ensure that we have multiple pillars. The blood thinner anticoagulant will be one; that one is already filed. We're already in negotiations to try and get it in 2028.
Speaker #2: The second one is in R&D, and between the two of them, that will be a substantial part of the market for blood thinners. Hopefully, the second one will get through clinical trials and be on the market also by around the same time.
Nasrat Hakim: Hopefully, the second one will get through clinical trials and be in the market also by around the same time. Other products that are perpetual. We have 25 to 50 million diabetics in America. There are excellent diabetic products that are coming off patent. Our hat is in the ring, and we are very close to three of the formulations. Having that as a product that is ongoing, this is not something that's seasonal. This is not something you take once in a while. These are products that you need all the time and a huge part of the population have them. That will be another pillar for us to focus on.
Nasrat Hakim: Hopefully, the second one will get through clinical trials and be in the market also by around the same time. Other products that are perpetual. We have 25 to 50 million diabetics in America. There are excellent diabetic products that are coming off patent. Our hat is in the ring, and we are very close to three of the formulations. Having that as a product that is ongoing, this is not something that's seasonal. This is not something you take once in a while. These are products that you need all the time and a huge part of the population have them. That will be another pillar for us to focus on.
Speaker #2: Other products that are perpetual. We have 25 to 50 million diabetics in America. There are excellent diabetic products that are coming off patent. Our hat is in the ring.
Speaker #2: And we are very close to three of the formulations, so having that as a product that is ongoing—this is not something that's seasonal.
Speaker #2: This is not something you take once in a while. These are products that you need all the time. And a huge part of the population has them.
Speaker #2: That will be another pillar for us to focus on. In order for us to have a viable manufacturing facility, we need to take over a warehouse or one of the buildings next to us, revamp it, and make it fit for pharmaceuticals, and then put the equipment in it, and then qualify the equipment.
Nasrat Hakim: In order for us to have a viable manufacturing facility, we need to take over a warehouse or one of the buildings next to us, revamp it, and make it fit for pharmaceuticals, and then put the equipment in it, and then qualify the equipment. That process takes about 2 years. So we need to start now in order for us to have a house for all these products that we have in R&D that is going to make the company what it is in the future. Hopefully that answers your question. Last question is of 3 parts about 3 products in R&D. First, about Oxy ER, you have launch plans for August 2027, or approval by FDA for August 2027, which we do not. We have authorization with Purdue to launch by August 2027. But there is unresolved issue in the view through anti-abuse smokeability lab question.
Nasrat Hakim: In order for us to have a viable manufacturing facility, we need to take over a warehouse or one of the buildings next to us, revamp it, and make it fit for pharmaceuticals, and then put the equipment in it, and then qualify the equipment. That process takes about 2 years. So we need to start now in order for us to have a house for all these products that we have in R&D that is going to make the company what it is in the future. Hopefully that answers your question. Last question is of 3 parts about 3 products in R&D. First, about Oxy ER, you have launch plans for August 2027, or approval by FDA for August 2027, which we do not. We have authorization with Purdue to launch by August 2027. But there is unresolved issue in the view through anti-abuse smokeability lab question.
Speaker #2: And that process takes about two years. So, we need to start now in order for us to have a house for all these products that we have in R&D that's going to make the company what it is in the future.
Speaker #2: Okay? Hopefully, that answers your question. The last question is a three-part question about three products in R&D. First, regarding OTC, do you have launch plans for August 2027, or approval by FDA for over 2027, which we don't.
Speaker #2: We have authorization with Purdue to launch by August 2027, but there is an unresolved issue in the V2 anti-abuse smokeability level question. What is the realistic timeline for resolving the FDA question?
Nasrat Hakim: What is the realistic timeline for resolving the FDA question? Does August 2027 still hold if it slips? If the filing with FDA slips, there is no way you can have the product. So August 2027 would not mean anything. The first thing is that we need to fix this one issue that the FDA pointed out to and gave us a year to study and get back to them. We were working with a consultant and the team in-house to try and resolve the issue, and we will keep you updated. As of now, we just started working on it. I will have more information in the future. But we need to resolve that issue, and then we can launch in August 2027.
Nasrat Hakim: What is the realistic timeline for resolving the FDA question? Does August 2027 still hold if it slips? If the filing with FDA slips, there is no way you can have the product. So August 2027 would not mean anything. The first thing is that we need to fix this one issue that the FDA pointed out to and gave us a year to study and get back to them. We were working with a consultant and the team in-house to try and resolve the issue, and we will keep you updated. As of now, we just started working on it. I will have more information in the future. But we need to resolve that issue, and then we can launch in August 2027.
Speaker #2: And thus, August 2027 still holds if it slips. If the filing with the FDA slips, there is no way you can—product. So August 2027 wouldn't mean anything.
Speaker #2: The first thing is that we need to fix this one issue that the FDA pointed out to, and give us a year to study and get back to them. We are working with a consultant and the in-house team to try and resolve the issue, and we will keep you updated.
Speaker #2: As of now, we just started working on it. I will have more information in the future. But we need to resolve that issue, and then we can launch in August 2027.
Speaker #2: You flagged a past PE study for an undisclosed anticoagulant and not yet filed. And two, Anders already pending. And said another PE result is likely before year's end.
Nasrat Hakim: You flagged a phase BE study for an undisclosed anticoagulant and not yet filed, and 2 ANDAs already pending and said another BE result is likely before year's end. Which near-term catalyst do you view as most material to sustain a 40% 5-year revenue compound annual growth rate? When should the investor expect the anticonvulsant ANDA filed? The anticonvulsant ANDA, the seizure medication, will probably be filed before we go to Nasdaq. I would assume it is going to be in the beginning of the Q1 of this calendar year. As to the rest of it, 40% increase over 5 years really is not that high. It is doable, but I am not going to prioritize because I do not know that we passed the clinical trials or get approval.
Nasrat Hakim: You flagged a phase BE study for an undisclosed anticoagulant and not yet filed, and 2 ANDAs already pending and said another BE result is likely before year's end. Which near-term catalyst do you view as most material to sustain a 40% 5-year revenue compound annual growth rate? When should the investor expect the anticonvulsant ANDA filed? The anticonvulsant ANDA, the seizure medication, will probably be filed before we go to Nasdaq. I would assume it is going to be in the beginning of the Q1 of this calendar year. As to the rest of it, 40% increase over 5 years really is not that high. It is doable, but I am not going to prioritize because I do not know that we passed the clinical trials or get approval.
Speaker #2: Which near-term catalyst do you view as most material to sustain a 40% five-year revenue compound annual growth rate? And when should the investor expect the anti-convulsant NDA filed?
Speaker #2: The anticonvulsant and the seizure medication will probably be filed before we go to Nasdaq. I would assume it's going to be in the beginning of the first quarter of this calendar year.
Speaker #2: Okay? As to the rest of it, a 40% increase over five years really is not that high. It is doable. But I'm not going to prioritize it because I don't know if it will be past the clinical trials or get approval.
Speaker #2: Anticoagulant you filed paragraph three which implies a 2032 linked timeline tied to patent expiry. But said you are still working on circumvent or challenge specific patents to truncate it.
Nasrat Hakim: Anticoagulant, you filed Paragraph III, which implies a 2032 link timeline tied to a patent expiry, but said you are still working on circumvent or challenge specific patents to truncate it. That is true. What is the probability and timeline of converting any of those patents into an earlier launch? The probability is high. We are in negotiations, and my gut feeling as of now, we just started the negotiations, is that we are going to be able to launch this product in 2028. All right. That concludes our conference call today. We look forward to talking to you in November. Thank you, Matthew.
Nasrat Hakim: Anticoagulant, you filed Paragraph III, which implies a 2032 link timeline tied to a patent expiry, but said you are still working on circumvent or challenge specific patents to truncate it. That is true. What is the probability and timeline of converting any of those patents into an earlier launch? The probability is high. We are in negotiations, and my gut feeling as of now, we just started the negotiations, is that we are going to be able to launch this product in 2028. All right. That concludes our conference call today. We look forward to talking to you in November. Thank you, Matthew.
Speaker #2: That is true. What is the probability and timeline of converting any of those patents into an earlier launch? The probability is high.
Speaker #2: We are in negotiations, and I might get the feeling, as if now we just started the negotiations, that we're going to be able to file this product, to launch this product, in 2028?
Speaker #2: All right, that concludes our conference call today. We look forward to talking to you in November. Thank you, Matthew.
Operator 4: Thank you. Everyone, this concludes today's event. You may disconnect at this time, and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.
Operator: Thank you. Everyone, this concludes today's event. You may disconnect at this time, and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.
