Q2 2027 ServiceTitan Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Thank you for standing by, and welcome to ServiceTitan's second quarter fiscal year 2027 earnings conference call. Currently, all participants are in a listen-only mode.
Operator: Thank you for standing by, and welcome to ServiceTitan's second quarter fiscal year 2027 earnings conference call. Currently, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. To remove yourself from the queue, you may press star one one again. I would now like to hand the call over to Jason Rechel, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you for standing by, and welcome to ServiceTitan's Q2 Fiscal Year 2027 Earnings Conference Call. Currently, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. To remove yourself from the queue, you may press star one one again. I would now like to hand the call over to Jason Rechel, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
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Speaker #2: Thank you, operator, and welcome, everyone, to ServiceTitan's fiscal second quarter 2027 earnings conference call. With me are ServiceTitan's co-founder and CEO, Ara Mahdessian; co-founder and president, Vahe Kuzoyan; and CFO, Dave Sherry.
Jason Rechel: Thank you, Operator, and welcome everyone to ServiceTitan's fiscal second quarter 2027 earnings conference call. With me are ServiceTitan's Co-founder and CEO, Ara Mahdessian, Co-founder and President, Vahe Kuzoyan, and CFO, Dave Sherry. During today's call, we will review our fiscal second quarter 2027 results. We will also discuss our guidance for the third fiscal quarter and full fiscal year 2027. Before we get started, we want to draw your attention to the safe harbor statement included in today's press release and emphasize that information discussed on this call, including our guidance, is based on information as of today only, and it contains forward-looking statements that involve risks, uncertainties, and assumptions. All statements other than statements of historical fact could be deemed to be forward-looking. Forward-looking statements reflect our views as of today only, and except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update or revise these forward-looking statements.
Jason Rechel: Thank you, Operator, and welcome everyone to ServiceTitan's Fiscal Q2 2027 Earnings Conference Call. With me are ServiceTitan's Co-founder and CEO, Ara Mahdessian, Co-founder and President, Vahe Kuzoyan, and CFO, Dave Sherry. During today's call, we will review our fiscal Q2 2027 results. We will also discuss our guidance for the third fiscal quarter and full fiscal year 2027.
Speaker #2: During today's call, we'll review our fiscal second quarter 2027 results. We will also discuss our guidance for the third fiscal quarter and full fiscal year 2027.
Speaker #2: Before we get started, we want to draw your attention to the Safe Harbor statement included in today's press release and emphasize that information discussed on this call, including our guidance, is based on information as of today only and contains forward-looking statements that involve risks, uncertainties, and assumptions.
Jason Rechel: Before we get started, we want to draw your attention to the safe harbor statement included in today's press release and emphasize that information discussed on this call, including our guidance, is based on information as of today only, and it contains forward-looking statements that involve risks, uncertainties, and assumptions. All statements other than statements of historical fact could be deemed to be forward-looking. Forward-looking statements reflect our views as of today only, and except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update or revise these forward-looking statements.
Speaker #2: All statements, other than statements of historical fact, could be deemed to be forward-looking. Forward-looking statements reflect our views as of today only, and except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update or revise these forward-looking statements.
Speaker #2: Please take a look at our filings with the SEC for a discussion of the factors that could cause our results to differ. We also want to point out that we present non-GAAP measures in addition to, and not as a substitute for, financial measures prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles.
Jason Rechel: Please take a look at our filings with the SEC for a discussion of the factors that could cause our results to differ. We also want to point out that we present non-GAAP measures in addition to, and not as a substitute for, financial measures prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles. Definitions of these non-GAAP financial measures, along with reconciliations to our GAAP financial measures, are included in our earnings release, which we have furnished with the SEC and is available on our website at investors.servicetitan.com. Unless otherwise stated, all references on this call to platform gross margin, total gross margin, operating income, operating margin, free cash flow, and related growth rates are on a non-GAAP basis. Finally, we have posted an updated investor presentation that can be found on the investor relations website at investors.servicetitan.com, along with a replay of this call.
Jason Rechel: Please take a look at our filings with the SEC for a discussion of the factors that could cause our results to differ. We also want to point out that we present non-GAAP measures in addition to, and not as a substitute for, financial measures prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles.
Speaker #2: Definitions of these non-GAAP financial measures, along with reconciliations to our GAAP financial measures, are included in our earnings release, which we've furnished with the SEC and is available on our website at investors.servicetitan.com.
Jason Rechel: Definitions of these non-GAAP financial measures, along with reconciliations to our GAAP financial measures, are included in our earnings release, which we have furnished with the SEC and is available on our website at investors.servicetitan.com.
Speaker #2: Unless otherwise stated, all references on this call to platform gross margin, total gross margin, operating income, operating margin, free cash flow, and related growth rates are on a non-GAAP basis.
Jason Rechel: Unless otherwise stated, all references on this call to platform gross margin, total gross margin, operating income, operating margin, free cash flow, and related growth rates are on a non-GAAP basis. Finally, we have posted an updated investor presentation that can be found on the investor relations website at investors.servicetitan.com, along with a replay of this call.
Speaker #2: Finally, we've posted an updated investor presentation that can be found on the Investor Relations website at investors.servicetitan.com, along with a replay of this call.
Speaker #2: And with that, let me turn the call over to Ara. Ara?
Jason Rechel: With that, let me turn the call over to Ara. Ara?
Jason Rechel: With that, let me turn the call over to Ara. Ara?
Speaker #3: Thank you, Jason, and thank you for joining us. I'm excited to share that our strong momentum delivering the agentic operating system for the trades resulted in 21% year-over-year revenue growth and record free cash flow this quarter.
Ara Mahdessian: Thank you, Jason, and thank you for joining us. I am excited to share that our strong momentum delivering the agentic operating system for the trades resulted in 21% year-over-year revenue growth and record free cash flow this quarter. Over the course of the year, it has become increasingly obvious that delivering this agentic operating system to our customers and leveraging AI to further enhance our own organizational velocity are once in a lifetime opportunities to execute again. As a result, we have broadened the scope of our investments in both Max and the Software Factory in absolute dollars, and also relative to our expectations at the beginning of the year. We now believe that focusing on our existing trades and accelerating our shift towards Max will allow us to unlock the full potential of our business in the years ahead. Vahe will share more about our Max execution.
Ara Mahdessian: Thank you, Jason, and thank you for joining us. I am excited to share that our strong momentum delivering the agentic operating system for the trades resulted in 21% year-over-year revenue growth and record free cash flow this quarter. Over the course of the year, it has become increasingly obvious that delivering this agentic operating system to our customers and leveraging AI to further enhance our own organizational velocity are once in a lifetime opportunities to execute again.
Speaker #3: Over the course of the year, it has become increasingly obvious that delivering this agentic operating system to our customers, and leveraging AI to further enhance our own organizational velocity, are once-in-a-lifetime opportunities to execute again.
Speaker #3: As a result, we've broadened the scope of our investments in both MAX and the Software Factory, in absolute dollars and also relative to our expectations at the beginning of the year.
Ara Mahdessian: As a result, we have broadened the scope of our investments in both Max and the Software Factory in absolute dollars, and also relative to our expectations at the beginning of the year. We now believe that focusing on our existing trades and accelerating our shift towards Max will allow us to unlock the full potential of our business in the years ahead. Vahe will share more about our Max execution.
Speaker #3: We now believe that focusing on our existing trades and accelerating our shift towards Max will allow us to unlock the full potential of our business in the years ahead.
Speaker #3: Vahy will share more about our Max execution, Dave will discuss the financial implications of this mix shift, and I'm excited to lead with the outcomes that our customers are realizing with Max today.
Ara Mahdessian: Dave will discuss the financial implications of this mix shift, and I am excited to lead with the outcomes that our customers are realizing with Max today. Our vision since founding ServiceTitan has been to transform the lives of hardworking contractors by helping them grow revenue and increase margins. From day one, we imagined a world where technicians focused on serving customers in the field, leaders focused on business outcomes, and ServiceTitan increasingly handled the operational complexity in between. The outcomes our customers are now seeing with Max and our organizational readiness to lean into this success gives me even more clarity into our forward trajectory. As many of you know, we introduced Max as a pilot program at Pantheon last September, where Stacey Annapole was sitting in the audience. Stacey, the co-owner and president of Delponte Plumbing & Heating, saw immediate potential in Max.
Ara Mahdessian: Dave will discuss the financial implications of this mix shift, and I am excited to lead with the outcomes that our customers are realizing with Max today. Our vision since founding ServiceTitan has been to transform the lives of hardworking contractors by helping them grow revenue and increase margins. From day one, we imagined a world where technicians focused on serving customers in the field, leaders focused on business outcomes, and ServiceTitan increasingly handled the operational complexity in between.
Speaker #3: Our vision since founding ServiceTitan has been to transform the lives of hardworking contractors by helping them grow revenue and increase margins. From day one, we imagined a world where technicians focused on serving customers in the field, leaders focused on business outcomes, and ServiceTitan increasingly handled the operational complexity in between.
Speaker #3: The outcomes our customers are now seeing with Max, and our organizational readiness to lean into this success, give me even more clarity into our forward trajectory.
Ara Mahdessian: The outcomes our customers are now seeing with Max and our organizational readiness to lean into this success gives me even more clarity into our forward trajectory. As many of you know, we introduced Max as a pilot program at Pantheon last September, where Stacey Annapole was sitting in the audience. Stacey, the co-owner and president of Delponte Plumbing & Heating, saw immediate potential in Max.
Speaker #3: As many of you know, we introduced Max as a pilot program at Pantheon last September, where Safety Anapole was sitting in the audience. Safety, the co-owner and president of Del Ponte Plumbing and Heating, saw immediate potential in Max.
Speaker #3: She saw an operating system with a singular company brain, connected to every piece of context in her business, and armed with the ability to take action on key workflows in her operation.
Ara Mahdessian: She saw an operating system with a singular company brain connected to every piece of context in her business and armed with the ability to take action on key workflows in her operation. One that could automate and optimize how her business generated demand, booked appointments, sold work, managed payroll and inventory, and more, allowing her team to handle far more volume with the same headcount. Delponte has been in business for nearly 50 years and first implemented ServiceTitan in 2023 when Stacey took over as president. Her initial goal was straightforward: to build a better company for their customers, their employees, and the future of the business. I am glad to share that Delponte's results have been extraordinary so far.
Ara Mahdessian: She saw an operating system with a singular company brain connected to every piece of context in her business and armed with the ability to take action on key workflows in her operation. One that could automate and optimize how her business generated demand, booked appointments, sold work, managed payroll and inventory, and more, allowing her team to handle far more volume with the same headcount.
Speaker #3: One that could automate and optimize our business-generated demand, booked appointments, sold work, managed payroll and inventory, and more—allowing her team to handle far more volume with the same headcount.
Speaker #3: Del Ponte has been in business for nearly 50 years and first implemented ServiceTitan in 2023, when Stacey took over as president. Her initial goal was straightforward: to build a better company for their customers, their employees, and the future of the business.
Ara Mahdessian: Delponte has been in business for nearly 50 years and first implemented ServiceTitan in 2023 when Stacey took over as president. Her initial goal was straightforward: to build a better company for their customers, their employees, and the future of the business. I am glad to share that Delponte's results have been extraordinary so far.
Speaker #3: I'm glad to share that Del Ponte's results have been extraordinary so far. Stacey's revenue grew more than 35% year-over-year during Q1 2026, and more than 45% year-over-year in the second quarter of 2026, accelerating as the quarter went on.
Ara Mahdessian: Stacey's revenue grew more than 35% year over year during Q1 2026 and more than 45% year over year in the second quarter of 2026, accelerating as the quarter went on. With Max, Delponte generated more calls, booked more appointments, and closed more sales with higher average tickets. But what impressed me most was not the revenue growth. It was what the operating model allowed them to do next. Delponte launched a new vertical entirely around recurring service. In just three months, they have already served 400 customers, all without adding a single back-office employee. Delponte's technician-to-admin ratio improved from 2 to 1 in 2025 to 3 to 1 in 2026, materially improving profitability. Whereas technicians often work long hours during peak season to serve every customer and the office is typically overextended, technicians averaged only 45 hours per week, and office morale has never been stronger.
Ara Mahdessian: Stacey's revenue grew more than 35% year over year during Q1 2026 and more than 45% year over year in the Q2 of 2026, accelerating as the quarter went on. With Max, Delponte generated more calls, booked more appointments, and closed more sales with higher average tickets. But what impressed me most was not the revenue growth. It was what the operating model allowed them to do next.
Speaker #3: With Max, Del Ponte generates more calls, booked more appointments, and closed more sales with higher average tickets. But what impressed me most wasn't the revenue growth.
Speaker #3: It was what the operating model allowed them to do next. Del Ponte launched a new vertical entirely around recurring service. In just three months, they've already served 400 customers—all without adding a single back office employee.
Ara Mahdessian: Delponte launched a new vertical entirely around recurring service. In just three months, they have already served 400 customers, all without adding a single back-office employee. Delponte's technician-to-admin ratio improved from 2 to 1 in 2025 to 3 to 1 in 2026, materially improving profitability. Whereas technicians often work long hours during peak season to serve every customer and the office is typically overextended, technicians averaged only 45 hours per week, and office morale has never been stronger.
Speaker #3: Del Ponte's technician-to-admin ratio improved from 2:1 in 2025 to 3:1 in 2026, materially improving profitability. Whereas technicians often work long hours during peak seasons to serve every customer and the office is typically overextended, technicians averaged only 45 hours per week and office morale has never been stronger.
Speaker #3: As I said last quarter, the power that MAX unlocks means the work that used to require a group of people manually coordinating an operation is now orchestrated by the system itself, with humans and AI agents working together, each doing what they do best.
Ara Mahdessian: As I said last quarter, the power that Max unlocks means work that used to require a group of people manually coordinating an operation is now orchestrated by the system itself, with humans and AI agents working together, each doing what they do best. Delponte is proving something we believed from the beginning. When routine coordination is handled automatically, leaders spend less time coordinating work and more time coaching people, serving customers, and growing the business. We see this as just the beginning and are excited to announce the next big wave of innovation at Pantheon in October. We are focused on leveraging the Max platform and our massive proprietary dataset, expanding ecosystem, brand leadership, and distribution across more than 10,000 high-performing contractors to bring the magic of end-to-end automation to life.
Ara Mahdessian: As I said last quarter, the power that Max unlocks means work that used to require a group of people manually coordinating an operation is now orchestrated by the system itself, with humans and AI agents working together, each doing what they do best. Delponte is proving something we believed from the beginning. When routine coordination is handled automatically, leaders spend less time coordinating work and more time coaching people, serving customers, and growing the business.
Speaker #3: Del Ponte is proving something we believed from the beginning. When routine coordination is handled automatically, leaders spend less time coordinating work and more time coaching people, serving customers, and growing the business.
Speaker #3: We see this as just the beginning and are excited to announce the next big wave of innovation at Pantheon in October. We are focused on leveraging the MAX platform and our massive proprietary dataset, expanding ecosystems, brand leadership, and distribution across more than 10,000 high-performing contractors to bring the magic of end-to-end automation to life.
Ara Mahdessian: We see this as just the beginning and are excited to announce the next big wave of innovation at Pantheon in October. We are focused on leveraging the Max platform and our massive proprietary dataset, expanding ecosystem, brand leadership, and distribution across more than 10,000 high-performing contractors to bring the magic of end-to-end automation to life.
Speaker #3: Before I conclude, I want to take a moment to thank Ross Beesman for building ServiceTitan into the business we are today. We announced earlier that, after leading us from less than $30 million in ARR to over $1 billion of annualized run rate revenue, Ross has decided to step away from an operating role, but not before closing through Pantheon in Q3 as our CRO and then serving as an advisor through the end of the fiscal year to ensure a smooth transition.
Ara Mahdessian: Before I conclude, I want to take a moment to thank Ross Biestman for building ServiceTitan into the business we are today. We announced earlier that after leading us from less than $30 million in ARR to over a billion of annual analyzed run rate revenue, Ross has decided to step away from an operating role, but not before closing through Pantheon in Q3 as our CRO and then serving as an advisor through the end of the fiscal year to ensure a smooth transition. Ross, I am grateful for your leadership and your friendship over the past nine years. Being the leader that you are, you have also built a bench of exceptional leaders and a world-class go-to-market machine. Rikus Pretorius has served as our SVP of worldwide sales and Ross's right hand for over seven years.
Ara Mahdessian: Before I conclude, I want to take a moment to thank Ross Biestman for building ServiceTitan into the business we are today. We announced earlier that after leading us from less than $30 million in ARR to over a billion of annual analyzed run rate revenue, Ross has decided to step away from an operating role, but not before closing through Pantheon in Q3 as our CRO and then serving as an advisor through the end of the fiscal year to ensure a smooth transition.
Speaker #3: Ross, I am grateful for your leadership and your friendship over the past nine years. Being the leader that you are, you have also built a bench of exceptional leaders and a world-class go-to-market machine.
Ara Mahdessian: Ross, I am grateful for your leadership and your friendship over the past nine years. Being the leader that you are, you have also built a bench of exceptional leaders and a world-class go-to-market machine. Rikus Pretorius has served as our SVP of worldwide sales and Ross's right hand for over seven years.
Speaker #3: Rick Espretorius has served as our SVP of Worldwide Sales, and Ross's right hand, for over seven years. We have great confidence that we have the right sales leadership team to lead us forward as Rick steps into the CRO role beginning in Q4.
Ara Mahdessian: We have great confidence that we have the right sales leadership team to lead us forward as Rikus steps into the CRO role beginning in Q4. Now, let's hear more from my co-founder, Vahe.
Ara Mahdessian: We have great confidence that we have the right sales leadership team to lead us forward as Rikus steps into the CRO role beginning in Q4. Now, let's hear more from my co-founder, Vahe.
Speaker #3: Now, let's hear more from my co-founder, Vahy.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Laura. Max has become the foundation for our future, and while I don't want to steal too much of our thunder from Pantheon next month, I'd like to dive right into the progress we made during the second quarter.
Vahe Kuzoyan: Thanks, Ara. Max has become the foundation for our future, and while I do not want to steal too much of our thunder from Pantheon next month, I would like to dive right into the progress we made during the second quarter. Our North Star has always been to deliver transformational customer outcomes. Max customers continue to overperform their peers across key funnel metrics and are creating tangible business value. Max customers are generating more leads, converting those leads at a higher booking rate, and completing work at a higher average ticket. They are doing this with improved operational ratios, like what you heard from Delponte, to deliver a faster and more efficient rate of growth relative to peers. We now have over 30 agentic capabilities native within Max to power enhanced automation, including Q2 introductions like demand orchestration, abandoned session SMS recovery, AI coaching and scorecards, and live escalations.
Vahe Kuzoyan: Thanks, Ara. Max has become the foundation for our future, and while I do not want to steal too much of our thunder from Pantheon next month, I would like to dive right into the progress we made during the Q2. Our North Star has always been to deliver transformational customer outcomes. Max customers continue to overperform their peers across key funnel metrics and are creating tangible business value. Max customers are generating more leads, converting those leads at a higher booking rate, and completing work at a higher average ticket.
Speaker #2: Our North Star has always been to deliver transformational customer outcomes. Max customers continue to overperform their peers across key funnel metrics and are creating tangible business value.
Speaker #2: Max customers are generating more leads, converting those leads at a higher booking rate, and completing work at a higher average ticket. They are doing this with improved operational ratios—like what you heard from Del Ponte—to deliver a faster and more efficient rate of growth relative to peers.
Vahe Kuzoyan: They are doing this with improved operational ratios, like what you heard from Delponte, to deliver a faster and more efficient rate of growth relative to peers. We now have over 30 agentic capabilities native within Max to power enhanced automation, including Q2 introductions like demand orchestration, abandoned session SMS recovery, AI coaching and scorecards, and live escalations.
Speaker #2: We now have over 30 agentic capabilities native within Max to power enhanced automation, including Q2 introductions like demand orchestration, advanced session SMS recovery, AI coaching and scorecards, and live escalations.
Speaker #2: Due to the strength of these customer outcomes, we are growing Max more quickly than we had previously expected. We doubled the number of locations enrolled in Max during our fiscal Q1 to just over 100, and we expect to again double that number during Q2.
Vahe Kuzoyan: Due to the strength of these customer outcomes, we are growing Max more quickly than we had previously expected. We doubled the number of locations enrolled in Max during our fiscal Q1 to just over 100, and we expected to again double that number through Q2. As a result of strong execution with existing customers and progress selling to select new customers for the first time, we exceeded our goal during Q2, and we now expect to end this fiscal year with over 700 enrolled Max locations. In addition to Max, we began to put our full go-to-market efforts behind another pillar of our AI monetization strategy, Virtual Agents, in May. The differentiation of our natively integrated platform is proving out, particularly with our SMS agentic capabilities, now native alongside voice.
Vahe Kuzoyan: Due to the strength of these customer outcomes, we are growing Max more quickly than we had previously expected. We doubled the number of locations enrolled in Max during our fiscal Q1 to just over 100, and we expected to again double that number through Q2.
Speaker #2: As a result of strong execution with existing customers and progress selling to select new customers for the first time, we exceeded our goal during Q2, and we now expect to end this fiscal year with over 700 enrolled Max locations.
Vahe Kuzoyan: As a result of strong execution with existing customers and progress selling to select new customers for the first time, we exceeded our goal during Q2, and we now expect to end this fiscal year with over 700 enrolled Max locations. In addition to Max, we began to put our full go-to-market efforts behind another pillar of our AI monetization strategy, Virtual Agents, in May. The differentiation of our natively integrated platform is proving out, particularly with our SMS agentic capabilities, now native alongside voice.
Speaker #2: In addition to Max, we began to put our full go-to-market efforts behind another pillar of our AI monetization strategy—virtual agents—in May. The differentiation of our natively integrated platform is proving out.
Speaker #2: Particularly with our SMS agentic capabilities now native alongside voice. During Q2, we launched voice and SMS features like speed-to-lead, technician notifications, and both inbound and outbound capabilities.
Vahe Kuzoyan: During Q2, we launched voice and SMS features like Speed to Lead, technician notifications, and both inbound and outbound capabilities, each converged within our AI-powered demand generation and capability optimization platform. While Virtual Agents remain early overall, during Q2, our revenue and call volume each more than doubled sequentially. When it comes to our organizational velocity, our vision to build a Software Factory is increasingly taking shape. At its core, we envision that the Software Factory will be the growth engine behind our platform. It will touch everything we build and everything our customers experience, improving the platform, the pace of feature introductions, and how we sell and market ServiceTitan. We are creating a self-reinforcing loop where software perpetually learns and improves based on actual customer behavior to build faster and more efficiently than we ever could have previously.
Vahe Kuzoyan: During Q2, we launched voice and SMS features like Speed to Lead, technician notifications, and both inbound and outbound capabilities, each converged within our AI-powered demand generation and capability optimization platform. While Virtual Agents remain early overall, during Q2, our revenue and call volume each more than doubled sequentially. When it comes to our organizational velocity, our vision to build a Software Factory is increasingly taking shape.
Speaker #2: Each converged within our AI-powered demand generation and capability optimization platform. While virtual agents remain early overall, during Q2, our revenue and call volume each more than doubled sequentially.
Speaker #2: And when it comes to our organizational velocity, our vision to build a software factory is increasingly taking shape. At its core, we envision that the software factory will be the growth engine behind our platform.
Vahe Kuzoyan: At its core, we envision that the Software Factory will be the growth engine behind our platform. It will touch everything we build and everything our customers experience, improving the platform, the pace of feature introductions, and how we sell and market ServiceTitan. We are creating a self-reinforcing loop where software perpetually learns and improves based on actual customer behavior to build faster and more efficiently than we ever could have previously.
Speaker #2: It will touch everything we build and everything our customers experience—improving the platform, the pace of feature introductions, and how we sell and market ServiceTitan.
Speaker #2: We're creating a self-reinforcing loop where software perpetually learns and improves based on actual customer behavior, allowing us to build faster and more efficiently than we ever could have previously.
Speaker #2: As Aar mentioned, it is in concert with the results we see today that we are increasing the share of our investments in AI and the software factory.
Vahe Kuzoyan: As Ara mentioned, it is in concert with the results we see today that we are increasing the share of our investments on AI and the Software Factory. We believe that increasing our focus on Max and AI will maximize the long-term value of ServiceTitan, because we now have even greater resources to be invested in and running together towards the most important opportunity we have ahead of us. For example, we have advanced our investment in Max to include more agentic capabilities for field and office. Technicians are the backbone of the trade businesses, and we are continuing to make even larger investments in the capabilities we give to them, from AI proposals to voice-based solutions. Our multi-year growth markets, like commercial and roofing, remain important initiatives for us as we work towards becoming the market standard over time.
Vahe Kuzoyan: As Ara mentioned, it is in concert with the results we see today that we are increasing the share of our investments on AI and the Software Factory. We believe that increasing our focus on Max and AI will maximize the long-term value of ServiceTitan, because we now have even greater resources to be invested in and running together towards the most important opportunity we have ahead of us.
Speaker #2: We believe that increasing our focus on Max and AI will maximize the long-term value of ServiceTitan, because we now have even greater resources invested in, and running together toward, the most important opportunity we have ahead of us.
Speaker #2: For example, we have advanced our investments in Max to include more agentic capabilities for the field and office. Technicians are the backbone of the trade businesses, and we are continuing to make even larger investments in the capabilities we give to them, from AI proposals to voice-based solutions.
Vahe Kuzoyan: For example, we have advanced our investment in Max to include more agentic capabilities for field and office. Technicians are the backbone of the trade businesses, and we are continuing to make even larger investments in the capabilities we give to them, from AI proposals to voice-based solutions. Our multi-year growth markets, like commercial and roofing, remain important initiatives for us as we work towards becoming the market standard over time.
Speaker #2: Our multi-year growth markets, like commercial and roofing, remain important initiatives for us as we work towards becoming the market standard over time. To enable increased investment in and attention on Max, during Q2, we elected to tighten our focus on existing commercial trades like mechanical, electrical, plumbing, and landscaping, and residential roofing.
Vahe Kuzoyan: To enable increased investments and attention on Max, during Q2, we elected to tighten our focus on existing commercial trades like mechanical, electrical, plumbing, and landscaping, and residential roofing, rather than the planned expansion of our offering to new trades within commercial or broader residential exteriors categories. We expect this focus on existing trades to allow us to execute on existing investments while also accelerating our shift towards Max and internal AI, addressing what we believe to be our most important opportunity today. Dave will discuss the mix shift implications of this trade-off shortly. I am excited to speak at Pantheon about the compelling new outcomes that our customers will be able to achieve with AI. On to you, Dave.
Vahe Kuzoyan: To enable increased investments and attention on Max, during Q2, we elected to tighten our focus on existing commercial trades like mechanical, electrical, plumbing, and landscaping, and residential roofing, rather than the planned expansion of our offering to new trades within commercial or broader residential exteriors categories.
Speaker #2: Rather than the planned expansion of our offering to new trades within commercial or broader residential exteriors categories, we expect this focus on existing trades to allow us to execute on existing investments while also accelerating our shift towards Max and internal AI.
Vahe Kuzoyan: We expect this focus on existing trades to allow us to execute on existing investments while also accelerating our shift towards Max and internal AI, addressing what we believe to be our most important opportunity today. Dave will discuss the mix shift implications of this trade-off shortly. I am excited to speak at Pantheon about the compelling new outcomes that our customers will be able to achieve with AI. On to you, Dave.
Speaker #2: Addressing what we believe to be our most important opportunity today. They will discuss the mix shift implications of this trade-off shortly. I am excited to speak at Pantheon about the compelling new outcomes that our customers will be able to achieve with AI.
Speaker #2: On to you, Dave.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Vahy. Today, I will run through our Q2 financial results and provide an update to our guidance for the full fiscal year 2027. For more detailed financial results, please refer to our press release issued earlier today.
Dave Sherry: Thanks, Vahe. Today, I will run through our Q2 financial results and provide an update to our guidance for full fiscal year 2027. For more detailed financial results, please refer to our press release issued earlier today. Q2 gross transaction volume, or GTV, was $26.8 billion, up 17% year over year. Normalized for business days and weather, which were roughly offsetting, GTV growth of 17% was about 200 basis points below recent quarters, primarily due to lower job growth by existing customers. Our customers' lead volume grew at a more moderate seasonal pace during May and June compared to prior years before stabilizing in July, which was consistent with Hardy data. This was evident across the broad set of trades and markets that we serve, and it was particularly true for our HVAC-focused customers.
Dave Sherry: Thanks, Vahe. Today, I will run through our Q2 financial results and provide an update to our guidance for full fiscal year 2027. For more detailed financial results, please refer to our press release issued earlier today. Q2 gross transaction volume, or GTV, was $26.8 billion, up 17% year over year.
Speaker #3: Q2 gross transaction volume, or GTV, was $26.8 billion, up 17% year over year. Normalized for business days and weather, which were roughly offsetting, GTV growth of 17% was about 200 basis points below recent quarters, primarily due to lower job growth by existing customers.
Dave Sherry: Normalized for business days and weather, which were roughly offsetting, GTV growth of 17% was about 200 basis points below recent quarters, primarily due to lower job growth by existing customers. Our customers' lead volume grew at a more moderate seasonal pace during May and June compared to prior years before stabilizing in July, which was consistent with Hardy data. This was evident across the broad set of trades and markets that we serve, and it was particularly true for our HVAC-focused customers.
Speaker #3: Our customers' lead volume grew at a more moderate seasonal pace during May and June compared to prior years, before stabilizing in July, which was consistent with Hardy data.
Speaker #3: This was evident across the broad set of trades and markets that we serve, and it was particularly true for our HVAC-focused customers. Looking forward, we have adjusted our second-half forecast to reflect the more moderate GTV growth we saw during Q2.
Dave Sherry: Looking forward, we have adjusted our H2 forecast to reflect the more moderate GTV growth we saw during Q2, of course, accounting for one fewer business day in Q3. Given the momentum and growing importance of Max, before getting into Q2 financials, I would like to outline how we expect Max to impact our P&L over time. Specifically, I want to provide some color in four key areas. First, in terms of addressable customers, today, Max is primarily available for residential customers in the trades we call in-home, principally plumbing, HVAC, electrical, and garage. As we said at this time last year, this grouping of customers represents our largest group of customers based on GTV, though not a majority. Second, in terms of subscription uplift, we see from our customers that enroll in Max.
Dave Sherry: Looking forward, we have adjusted our H2 forecast to reflect the more moderate GTV growth we saw during Q2, of course, accounting for one fewer business day in Q3. Given the momentum and growing importance of Max, before getting into Q2 financials, I would like to outline how we expect Max to impact our P&L over time.
Speaker #3: Of course, accounting for one fewer business day in Q3. Given the momentum and growing importance of Max, before getting into Q2 financials, I'd like to outline how we expect Max to impact our P&L over time.
Speaker #3: Specifically, I want to provide some color in four key areas. First, in terms of addressable customers, today Max is primarily available for residential customers in the trades we call in-home—principally plumbing, HVAC, electrical, and garage.
Dave Sherry: Specifically, I want to provide some color in four key areas. First, in terms of addressable customers, today, Max is primarily available for residential customers in the trades we call in-home, principally plumbing, HVAC, electrical, and garage. As we said at this time last year, this grouping of customers represents our largest group of customers based on GTV, though not a majority. Second, in terms of subscription uplift, we see from our customers that enroll in Max.
Speaker #3: As we said at this time last year, this grouping of customers represents our largest group of customers based on GTV, though not a majority.
Speaker #3: Second, in terms of subscription uplift, we see from our customers that enroll in Max, as we've noted before, at full contract ramp, subscription revenue roughly doubles relative to prior suspend, driving an average platform earn rate just north of 2%.
Dave Sherry: As we have noted before, at full contract ramp, subscription revenue roughly doubles relative to prior suspend, driving an average platform earn rate just north of 2%. Now, we realize that not all of our residential in-home customers are ready to fully transform their businesses yet. We expect to launch packages that will be on-ramp to Max over time, which we expect to have meaningful uplifts in subscription revenue run rate, though not quite the same level as full Max deployment. We will provide more specifics as these packages launch. Third, we recognize revenue slightly differently for our core platform compared to our upsell products like Max and Pro. For the core subscription, we recognize revenue ratably over the term of the contract. For upsell, we recognize revenue as billed.
Dave Sherry: As we have noted before, at full contract ramp, subscription revenue roughly doubles relative to prior suspend, driving an average platform earn rate just north of 2%. Now, we realize that not all of our residential in-home customers are ready to fully transform their businesses yet.
Speaker #3: Now, we realize that not all of our residential in-home customers are ready to fully transform their businesses yet. We expect to launch packages that will be an on-ramp to Max over time, which we expect to have meaningful uplifts in subscription revenue run rate, though not quite the same level as a full Max deployment.
Dave Sherry: We expect to launch packages that will be on-ramp to Max over time, which we expect to have meaningful uplifts in subscription revenue run rate, though not quite the same level as full Max deployment. We will provide more specifics as these packages launch. Third, we recognize revenue slightly differently for our core platform compared to our upsell products like Max and Pro. For the core subscription, we recognize revenue ratably over the term of the contract. For upsell, we recognize revenue as billed.
Speaker #3: We will provide more specifics as these packages launch. Third, we recognize revenue slightly differently for our core platform compared to our upsold products like Max and Pro.
Speaker #3: For the core subscription, we recognize revenue ratably over the term of the contract. For upsell, we recognize revenue as billed. Because Max requires such substantial change management, we typically do not bill for the first quarter of a contract and then ramp to full contract value through the first year or so.
Dave Sherry: Because Max requires such substantial change management, we typically do not bill for the first quarter of a contract and then ramp to full contract value through the first year or so. The momentum in Max, as well as our decision to focus our investments here and in existing trades, has led to a higher proportion of new deals coming from Max. We expect this change in composition and the timing difference of revenue recognition between core and upsell to mean between a $2 million and $3 million subscription revenue headwind over the remainder of the fiscal year. Finally, given both the required process change and the expected customer lifetime value increase from Max, we have elected not to charge existing customers an onboarding fee for the transition to Max.
Dave Sherry: Because Max requires such substantial change management, we typically do not bill for the Q1 of a contract and then ramp to full contract value through the first year or so. The momentum in Max, as well as our decision to focus our investments here and in existing trades, has led to a higher proportion of new deals coming from Max.
Speaker #3: The momentum in Max, as well as our decision to focus our investments here and in existing trades, has led to a higher proportion of new deals coming from Max.
Speaker #3: We expect this changing composition, and the timing difference of revenue recognition between core and upsell, to be between a $2 million and $3 million subscription revenue headwind over the remainder of the fiscal year.
Dave Sherry: We expect this change in composition and the timing difference of revenue recognition between core and upsell to mean between a $2 million and $3 million subscription revenue headwind over the remainder of the fiscal year. Finally, given both the required process change and the expected customer lifetime value increase from Max, we have elected not to charge existing customers an onboarding fee for the transition to Max.
Speaker #3: Finally, given both the required process change and the expected customer lifetime value increase from Max, we have elected not to charge existing customers an onboarding fee for the transition to Max.
Speaker #3: We expect the mix shift to Max to lower professional services revenue by roughly an additional $2 million over the remainder of this fiscal year.
Dave Sherry: We expect the mix shift to Max to lower professional services revenue by roughly an additional $2 million over the remainder of this fiscal year, which of course, also flows through to professional services gross margin. Now, shifting to Q2 financials. Q2 total revenue of $292.8 million grew 21% year over year. Subscription revenue of $212.4 million grew 22% year over year. Usage revenue grew 24% year over year to $72.1 million. Fintech revenue grew well, though slightly below recent periods due to more moderate GTV growth. Beyond Fintech, ecosystem and virtual agent revenue continue to perform well, with AI Virtual Agent revenue more than doubling quarter over quarter. We continue to believe AI monetization will lead usage revenue to grow more quickly than GTV in FY27.
Dave Sherry: We expect the mix shift to Max to lower professional services revenue by roughly an additional $2 million over the remainder of this fiscal year, which of course, also flows through to professional services gross margin. Now, shifting to Q2 financials. Q2 total revenue of $292.8 million grew 21% year over year. Subscription revenue of $212.4 million grew 22% year over year.
Speaker #3: Which, of course, also flows through to professional services gross margin. Now, shifting to Q2 financials—Q2 total revenue of $292.8 million, up 21% year over year.
Speaker #3: Subscription revenue of 212.4 million dollars through 22% year over year. Usage revenue through 24% year over year to 72.1 million dollars. ThinkTech revenue grew well, though slightly below recent periods due to the more moderate GTV growth.
Dave Sherry: Usage revenue grew 24% year over year to $72.1 million. Fintech revenue grew well, though slightly below recent periods due to more moderate GTV growth. Beyond Fintech, ecosystem and virtual agent revenue continue to perform well, with AI Virtual Agent revenue more than doubling quarter over quarter. We continue to believe AI monetization will lead usage revenue to grow more quickly than GTV in FY27.
Speaker #3: Beyond FinTech, ecosystem and virtual agent revenue continue to perform well, with virtual agent revenue more than doubling quarter over quarter. We continue to believe AI monetization will lead usage revenue to grow more quickly than GTV and FY27.
Speaker #3: Total platform revenue for Q2, the sum of subscription and usage revenue, grew 22% year over year to $284.5 million. Q2 professional services and other revenue was $8.3 million.
Dave Sherry: Total platform revenue for Q2, the sum of subscription and usage revenue, grew 22% year over year to $284.5 million. Q2 professional services and other revenue was $8.3 million. Net dollar retention was greater than 110% for the quarter. Q2 platform gross margin was 81.1%, up 40 basis points year over year. Total gross margin for Q2 was 74.6%, up 20 basis points year over year. We continue to optimize for unit economics within our business. Q2 operating income of $44.4 million resulted in operating margin of 15.2%, an improvement of 310 basis points year over year.
Dave Sherry: Total platform revenue for Q2, the sum of subscription and usage revenue, grew 22% year over year to $284.5 million. Q2 professional services and other revenue was $8.3 million. Net dollar retention was greater than 110% for the quarter. Q2 platform gross margin was 81.1%, up 40 basis points year over year. Total gross margin for Q2 was 74.6%, up 20 basis points year over year. We continue to optimize for unit economics within our business. Q2 operating income of $44.4 million resulted in operating margin of 15.2%, an improvement of 310 basis points year over year.
Speaker #3: Net dollar retention was greater than 110% for the quarter. Q2 platform gross margin was 81.1%, up 40 basis points year over year. Total gross margin for Q2 was 74.6%, up 20 basis points year over year.
Speaker #3: We continue to optimize for unit economics within our business. Q2 operating income was $44.4 million, with a margin of 15.2%, an improvement of 310 basis points year over year.
Speaker #3: The fact that we can deliver such strong margins in a quarter with modest GTV growth gives us increased conviction and a higher operating leverage for the business moving forward.
Dave Sherry: The fact that we can deliver such strong margins in a quarter with modest GTV growth gives us increased conviction in the higher operating leverage of the business moving forward. As such, we now expect that 25% incremental margins will represent a floor each year rather than a target moving forward. In this fiscal year, FY27, we now expect incremental margins of 33%. Q2 free cash flow was $50.5 million, up 47% year over year. Year-to-date free cash flow of $40.9 million is up from $12 million over the same period a year ago. We remain focused on free cash flow conversion and expect that free cash flow conversion will remain consistently high again during this fiscal year, as we saw last year. Now, shifting to formal guidance.
Dave Sherry: The fact that we can deliver such strong margins in a quarter with modest GTV growth gives us increased conviction in the higher operating leverage of the business moving forward. As such, we now expect that 25% incremental margins will represent a floor each year rather than a target moving forward. In this fiscal year, FY27, we now expect incremental margins of 33%.
Speaker #3: As such, we now expect that 25% incremental margins will represent a floor each year, rather than a target, moving forward. And in this fiscal year, FY27, we now expect incremental margins of 33%.
Speaker #3: Q2 free cash flow was $50.5 million, up 47% year over year. Year-to-date free cash flow of $40.9 million is up from $12 million over the same period a year ago.
Dave Sherry: Q2 free cash flow was $50.5 million, up 47% year over year. Year-to-date free cash flow of $40.9 million is up from $12 million over the same period a year ago. We remain focused on free cash flow conversion and expect that free cash flow conversion will remain consistently high again during this fiscal year, as we saw last year. Now, shifting to formal guidance.
Speaker #3: We remain focused on free cash flow conversion, and expect that free cash flow conversion will remain consistently high again during this fiscal year, as we saw last year.
Speaker #3: Now, shifting to formal guidance. For the third quarter, we expect total revenue in the range of $285 to $287 million. We expect to generate operating income in the range of $29 to $30 million.
Dave Sherry: For the third quarter, we expect total revenue in the range of $285 to $287 million. We expect to generate operating income in the range of $29 to $30 million. For the full fiscal year 2027, we expect total revenue in the range of $1.139 to $1.144 billion. We expect to generate operating income in the range of $152 to $154 million. We believe that our focused investments in existing growth markets and Max position ServiceTitan for even higher quality and more efficient long-term growth. We are very excited to talk about the future of the trades during Pantheon this quarter.
Dave Sherry: For the Q3, we expect total revenue in the range of $285 to $287 million. We expect to generate operating income in the range of $29 to $30 million. For the full fiscal year 2027, we expect total revenue in the range of $1.139 to $1.144 billion.
Speaker #3: For the full fiscal year 2027, we expect total revenue in the range of $1.139 to $1.144 billion. We expect to generate operating income in the range of $152 to $154 million.
Dave Sherry: We expect to generate operating income in the range of $152 to $154 million. We believe that our focused investments in existing growth markets and Max position ServiceTitan for even higher quality and more efficient long-term growth. We are very excited to talk about the future of the trades during Pantheon this quarter.
Speaker #3: We believe that our focused investments in existing growth markets and in Max Position service, Titan, create a higher-quality, more efficient long-term growth. We're very excited to talk about the future of the trades during Pantheon this quarter.
Speaker #3: We're hosting thousands of customers and partners, and while we're not hosting a formal investor event this year, we do hope to see many of you there.
Dave Sherry: We are hosting thousands of customers and partners. While we are not hosting a formal investor event this year, we do hope to see many of you there. With that, I will turn the call back to the operator for Q&A. Operator?
Dave Sherry: We are hosting thousands of customers and partners. While we are not hosting a formal investor event this year, we do hope to see many of you there. With that, I will turn the call back to the operator for Q&A. Operator?
Speaker #3: With that, I'll turn the call back to the operator for Q&A. Operator?
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Speaker #2: Our first question comes from the line of DJ Heinz of Canaccord. Your line is open, DJ.
Speaker #4: Hey, thank you, guys. Dave, so you said lead volumes stabilized in July after softer growth in May and June. What have you seen since quarter-end?
DJ Hynes: Hey. Thank you, guys. Dave, so you said lead volumes stabilized in July after softer growth in May and June. What have you seen since quarter end, and I guess what gives you confidence that Q2 represented maybe a temporary moderation versus kind of a new GTV run rate?
DJ Hynes: Hey. Thank you, guys. Dave, so you said lead volumes stabilized in July after softer growth in May and June. What have you seen since quarter end, and I guess what gives you confidence that Q2 represented maybe a temporary moderation versus kind of a new GTV run rate?
Speaker #4: And I guess, what gives you confidence that Q2 represented maybe a temporary moderation versus a new GTV run rate?
Speaker #5: Hey, DJ, why don't I do a quick deep dive on the GTV overall and give you some clarity there? I think, first, let me go into business days.
Dave Sherry: Hey, DJ. Why don't I do a quick deep dive on the GTV overall and give you some clarity there. I think first, let me go into business days. Because July 4 fell on a Saturday this year, there was an observed holiday on Friday, July 3. In the past, observed holidays have performed like normal business days, which is what we expect to come in the quarter. Instead, July 3 was closer to a weekend day, creating less benefit than the 150 bits we had planned. Second, in terms of weather, it was a warm summer, though roughly consistent with last year. Upon reviewing the results of the quarter, we do believe that the early start of the cooling season in April did pull a portion of Q2 GTV into Q1, creating a small headwind.
Dave Sherry: Hey, DJ. Why don't I do a quick deep dive on the GTV overall and give you some clarity there. I think first, let me go into business days. Because July 4 fell on a Saturday this year, there was an observed holiday on Friday, July 3. In the past, observed holidays have performed like normal business days, which is what we expect to come in the quarter.
Speaker #5: Because July 4th fell on a Saturday this year, there was an observed holiday on Friday, July 3rd. In the past, observed holidays have performed like normal business days, which is what we expect to happen in the quarter.
Speaker #5: Instead, July 3rd was closer to a weekend day, creating less benefit than the 150 bps we had planned. Second, in terms of weather, it was a warm summer, though roughly consistent with last year.
Dave Sherry: Instead, July 3 was closer to a weekend day, creating less benefit than the 150 bits we had planned. Second, in terms of weather, it was a warm summer, though roughly consistent with last year. Upon reviewing the results of the quarter, we do believe that the early start of the cooling season in April did pull a portion of Q2 GTV into Q1, creating a small headwind.
Speaker #5: And, upon reviewing the results of the quarter, we do believe that the early start of the cooling season in April did pull a portion of Q2 GTV into Q1, creating a small headwind.
Speaker #5: Now, these two factors more or less offset one another, which is why normalized and reported were the same at 17%. Now, coming to your question, beyond weather and business days—as I noted, consistent with Hardy data—we did see variance within the quarter, as May and June were weaker, July was stronger.
Dave Sherry: Now, these two factors more or less offset one another, which is why normalized and reported were the same 17%. Now, coming to your question. Beyond weather and biz days, as I noted, consistent with Hardy data, we did see variance within the quarter, as May and June were weaker, July was stronger. From what we could see, the core challenge our customers faced was the lead volume, and we did see that stabilize in the month of July. Unlike in similar periods in the past, our customers did not pass up. We were not able to offset this lower lead volume with higher average ticket. I do not have clarity on what is driving consumer behavior, particularly on lead volume.
Dave Sherry: Now, these two factors more or less offset one another, which is why normalized and reported were the same 17%. Now, coming to your question. Beyond weather and biz days, as I noted, consistent with Hardy data, we did see variance within the quarter, as May and June were weaker, July was stronger. From what we could see, the core challenge our customers faced was the lead volume, and we did see that stabilize in the month of July.
Speaker #5: From what we could see, the core challenge our customers faced was the lead volume, and we did see that stabilize in the month of July.
Speaker #5: And unlike in similar periods in the past, our customers were not able to offset this lower lead volume with higher average ticket.
Dave Sherry: Unlike in similar periods in the past, our customers did not pass up. We were not able to offset this lower lead volume with higher average ticket. I do not have clarity on what is driving consumer behavior, particularly on lead volume.
Speaker #5: Now, I don't have clarity on what's driving consumer behavior, particularly on lead volume. So what we did is we rolled forward the aggregate of Q2 into our forecast for the rest of the year, rather than assume what we saw in July was the bounce back going forward.
Dave Sherry: What we did is we rolled forward the aggregate of Q2 in our forecast the rest of the year, rather than assume what we saw in July was a bounce back going forward. In terms of the first month of the year, DJ, I do not love getting in the practice of talking about in-quarter forecasts because there is so much variance within the quarter, but I think that helps answer your question.
Dave Sherry: What we did is we rolled forward the aggregate of Q2 in our forecast the rest of the year, rather than assume what we saw in July was a bounce back going forward. In terms of the first month of the year, DJ, I do not love getting in the practice of talking about in-quarter forecasts because there is so much variance within the quarter, but I think that helps answer your question.
Speaker #5: And in terms of the first month of the year, DJ, I don't love getting into the practice of talking about in-quarter forecasts because there's so much variance within the quarter.
Speaker #5: But I think that helps answer your question.
Speaker #4: Yeah, no, it's helpful color, and I appreciate your comments on Q3. Ara, maybe a more strategic question—so you noted delaying expansion into new commercial trades and broader exteriors to kind of fund Max.
DJ Hynes: Yeah. No, it is helpful color, and I appreciate your comments on Q3. Ara, maybe a more strategic question. You noted delaying expansion into new commercial trades and broader exteriors to kind of fund Max. How much future growth do you feel like you are deferring, and what are the milestones or signals that would cause you to begin broadening those investments again?
DJ Hynes: Yeah. No, it is helpful color, and I appreciate your comments on Q3. Ara, maybe a more strategic question. You noted delaying expansion into new commercial trades and broader exteriors to kind of fund Max. How much future growth do you feel like you are deferring, and what are the milestones or signals that would cause you to begin broadening those investments again?
Speaker #4: How much future growth do you feel like you're deferring, and what are the milestones or signals that would cause you to begin broadening those again?
Speaker #6: Yeah, great question, DJ. I'll first say this: we are relentlessly focused on the two profound opportunities unlocked by AI that we believe will win the next era of software and meaningfully expand ServiceTitan's long-term opportunity.
Ara Mahdessian: Yeah, great question, DJ. I will first say this, we are relentlessly focused on the two profound opportunities unlocked by AI that we believe will win the next era of software and meaningfully expand ServiceTitan's long-term opportunity. We are concentrating our incremental resources on them. First, of course, that is Max, our agentic operating system. The customer outcomes are compelling. Max customers grow revenue faster and more profitably. The demand is strong. CLTV is expected to be higher, and it is not just existing customers upgrading. We recently started leading with Max for new logos in residential in-home trades. These results give us confidence that our agentic capabilities are the best path to continued success across all of our segments over time. Second is the Software Factory.
Ara Mahdessian: Yeah, great question, DJ. I will first say this, we are relentlessly focused on the two profound opportunities unlocked by AI that we believe will win the next era of software and meaningfully expand ServiceTitan's long-term opportunity. We are concentrating our incremental resources on them. First, of course, that is Max, our agentic operating system. The customer outcomes are compelling. Max customers grow revenue faster and more profitably.
Speaker #6: And so we are concentrating our incremental resources on them. First, of course, that's Max, our agentic operating system. The customer can grow revenue faster and more profitably.
Speaker #6: The demand is strong. CLTV is expected to be higher. And it's not just existing customers upgrading—we recently started leading with Max for new logos in residential in-home trades.
Ara Mahdessian: The demand is strong. CLTV is expected to be higher, and it is not just existing customers upgrading. We recently started leading with Max for new logos in residential in-home trades. These results give us confidence that our agentic capabilities are the best path to continued success across all of our segments over time. Second is the Software Factory.
Speaker #6: And these results give us confidence that our agentic capabilities are the best path to continued success across all of our segments over time. And then, second, is the software factory.
Speaker #6: We believe one of the most important competitive advantages in software will be how quickly and efficiently we can turn an idea into a high-quality product in customers' hands.
Ara Mahdessian: We believe one of the most important competitive advantages in software will be how quickly and efficiently we can turn an idea into high-quality product in customers' hands. In some areas, we have large features previously estimated to take quarters being delivered in months with escaped defects meaningfully down and bugs identified and resolved automatically. There is more work to be done to cover the entire ServiceTitan footprint. So we are putting capital and talent where the return is highest, and the magnitude of these two shifts is such that we believe nearly every incremental hour is best spent on them. Naturally, there are trade-offs, like the revenue recognition timing and the professional services revenue that Dave outlined, as well as this sequencing of trade expansion you noted. But we firmly believe this focus will compound value over quarters and years.
Ara Mahdessian: We believe one of the most important competitive advantages in software will be how quickly and efficiently we can turn an idea into high-quality product in customers' hands. In some areas, we have large features previously estimated to take quarters being delivered in months with escaped defects meaningfully down and bugs identified and resolved automatically. There is more work to be done to cover the entire ServiceTitan footprint.
Speaker #6: And in some areas, we have large features previously estimated to take orders being delivered in months, with escape defects meaningfully down and bugs identified and resolved automatically.
Speaker #6: But there is more work to be done to cover the entire ServiceTitan footprint. So we are putting capital and talent where the return is highest.
Ara Mahdessian: So we are putting capital and talent where the return is highest, and the magnitude of these two shifts is such that we believe nearly every incremental hour is best spent on them. Naturally, there are trade-offs, like the revenue recognition timing and the professional services revenue that Dave outlined, as well as this sequencing of trade expansion you noted. But we firmly believe this focus will compound value over quarters and years.
Speaker #6: And the magnitude of these two shifts is such that we believe nearly every incremental hour is best spent on them. And naturally, there are trade-offs, like the revenue recognition timing and the professional services revenue that they've outlined, as well as this sequencing of trade expansion you noted.
Speaker #6: But we firmly believe this focus will compound value over quarters and years.
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Speaker #7: Thank you very much, Latif. Appreciate that. You'd think I'd have it by now. Thanks for taking the questions. I just wanted to follow up on the prior point because I think this is an important point, just in general on the call.
Michael Turrin: Thank you very much, Latif. Appreciate that. You'd think I'd have it by now. Thanks for taking the questions.
Michael Turrin: Thank you very much, Latif. Appreciate that. You'd think I'd have it by now. Thanks for taking the questions.
Michael Turrin: I just wanted to follow on to the prior point because I think this is an important point, just in general on the call. Across the team, would love to get more details on the decision to prioritize Max over some of the subsequent trade expansion that we had seen on the roadmap previously. Just walk us through the thought process, what you are seeing with Max, why now, and what gives you the confidence that is the right decision, both today and over the longer term.
Michael Turrin: I just wanted to follow on to the prior point because I think this is an important point, just in general on the call. Across the team, would love to get more details on the decision to prioritize Max over some of the subsequent trade expansion that we had seen on the roadmap previously. Just walk us through the thought process, what you are seeing with Max, why now, and what gives you the confidence that is the right decision, both today and over the longer term.
Speaker #7: So, just across the team, we would love to get more details on the decision to prioritize Max over some of the subsequent trade expansion that we'd seen on the roadmap previously.
Speaker #7: Just walk us through the thought process—what you're seeing with Max, why now, and what gives you the confidence that this is the right decision, both today and over the longer term.
Speaker #6: Great question, Michael. There is a lot of excitement. What started maybe a year ago as the idea was an aggregation of the agentic capabilities inside Pro Products—and there were roughly eight of them at the time—has grown into something far bigger than that.
Ara Mahdessian: Great question, Michael. There is a lot of excitement. What started maybe a year ago as the idea was an aggregation of the agentic capabilities inside Pro products, and there were roughly 8 of them at the time, has grown into something far bigger than that. There are now 30-plus agentic capabilities all orchestrated together on the Max agentic operating system, generating demand automatically for customers through things like email marketing, Google ads and Facebook ads, automation, Speed to Lead, automation of converting phone calls into booked appointments, whether through virtual agents or now SMS agents, as well as improvements in close rates and average tickets in the field through things like automating the selection of the best technicians for any job based on lead scoring, as well as the automatic creation of good-better-best options in the field, automatic follow-up of unsold estimates.
Ara Mahdessian: Great question, Michael. There is a lot of excitement. What started maybe a year ago as the idea was an aggregation of the agentic capabilities inside Pro products, and there were roughly 8 of them at the time, has grown into something far bigger than that.
Speaker #6: There are now 30-plus agentic capabilities all orchestrated together on the Max agentic operating system, generating demand automatically for customers through things like email marketing, Google Ads, and Facebook Ads; automation; speed to lead; automation of converting phone calls into booked appointments, whether through virtual agents or now SMS agents; as well as improvements in close rates and average tickets in the field.
Ara Mahdessian: There are now 30-plus agentic capabilities all orchestrated together on the Max agentic operating system, generating demand automatically for customers through things like email marketing, Google ads and Facebook ads, automation, Speed to Lead, automation of converting phone calls into booked appointments, whether through virtual agents or now SMS agents, as well as improvements in close rates and average tickets in the field through things like automating the selection of the best technicians for any job based on lead scoring, as well as the automatic creation of good-better-best options in the field, automatic follow-up of unsold estimates.
Speaker #6: Through things like automating the selection of the best technician for any job based on lead scoring, as well as the automatic creation of good, better, best options in the field, and automatic follow-up of unsold estimates, all these things are very meaningfully increasing revenue for our customers.
Ara Mahdessian: All these things are very meaningfully increasing revenue for our customers and meaningfully increasing profitability. The results have been very compelling, and it is the evidence of these results that increase our confidence and conviction that Max represents far greater value to customers. And then we see that in the increase in CLTV from customers. And we see it as an imperative to ultimately, over time, get Max into the hands of every hardworking customer so they can continue to thrive. The only other thing I would add, Michael, is that this is not a forever decision. We do expect to come back to trade expansion over time. We think the importance of Max now and the Software Factory, which increase velocity later, allows us to attack more trades and more features with more gusto over time. It is a prioritization decision at this moment.
Ara Mahdessian: All these things are very meaningfully increasing revenue for our customers and meaningfully increasing profitability. The results have been very compelling, and it is the evidence of these results that increase our confidence and conviction that Max represents far greater value to customers. And then we see that in the increase in CLTV from customers. And we see it as an imperative to ultimately, over time, get Max into the hands of every hardworking customer so they can continue to thrive.
Speaker #6: And meaningfully increasing profitability. The results have been very compelling, and it is the evidence of these results that has increased our confidence and conviction that Max represents far greater value to customers. And then we see that in the increase in CLTV from customers.
Speaker #6: And we see it as an imperative to ultimately, over time, get Max into the hands of every hardworking customer so they can continue to thrive.
Speaker #5: And the one other thing I'd add, Michael, is that this is not a forever decision. We do expect to come back to trade expansion over time.
Ara Mahdessian: The only other thing I would add, Michael, is that this is not a forever decision. We do expect to come back to trade expansion over time. We think the importance of Max now and the Software Factory, which increase velocity later, allows us to attack more trades and more features with more gusto over time. It is a prioritization decision at this moment.
Speaker #5: We think that the importance of Max now, and the software factory, which increased velocity later, allows us to attack more trades and more features with more gusto over time.
Speaker #5: It's just a prioritization decision at this moment.
Speaker #7: Thanks for that. And if I may, just as a follow-up—Dave, the growth profile has held fairly durable. We're looking at the mid-teens guide for the back half.
Michael Turrin: Thanks for that. If I may just as a follow-up, Dave, the growth profile has held fairly durable. We are looking at the mid-teens guide for the back half, and I just was hoping you could help frame what is contemplated there, what the right way to think about the normalized medium-term growth rates for ServiceTitan would be, and if there are any indicators, if you plan to give Max on a quarterly basis or other indicators for us to look at to gauge progress, that is all helpful. Thank you.
Michael Turrin: Thanks for that. If I may just as a follow-up, Dave, the growth profile has held fairly durable. We are looking at the mid-teens guide for the back half, and I just was hoping you could help frame what is contemplated there, what the right way to think about the normalized medium-term growth rates for ServiceTitan would be, and if there are any indicators, if you plan to give Max on a quarterly basis or other indicators for us to look at to gauge progress, that is all helpful. Thank you.
Speaker #7: And I just was hoping you could help frame what's contemplated there—what the right way is to think about the normalized medium-term growth rates for ServiceTitan would be.
Speaker #7: And if there are any indicators—if you plan to give Max on a quarterly basis—or other indicators for us to look at to gauge progress, that's all helpful.
Speaker #7: Thank you.
Speaker #5: Absolutely. As always, our guide is driven by the best information we have right now. What I'll say on our forward growth is that there are a couple of things driving the difference from what we've seen before.
Dave Sherry: Absolutely. As always, our guidance is driven by the best information we have right now. What I will say on our forward growth, there are a couple of things that are driving the difference from what we have seen before. First, we are rolling forward a more modest GTV forecast after the results we saw in Q2. Second, the new deal volume, as I highlighted in my prepared remarks, are shifting to Max. That shift has approximately a $4 to $5 million near-term headwind across both subscription revenue and professional services. It is these two factors that are creating a bit of a headwind in the back half of this year. We continue to believe the growth and earnings potential of the business remains strong, and we are excited to put ourselves in a position to have strong FY28.
Dave Sherry: Absolutely. As always, our guidance is driven by the best information we have right now. What I will say on our forward growth, there are a couple of things that are driving the difference from what we have seen before. First, we are rolling forward a more modest GTV forecast after the results we saw in Q2. Second, the new deal volume, as I highlighted in my prepared remarks, are shifting to Max.
Speaker #5: First, we are rolling forward a more modest GTV forecast after the results we saw in Q2. Second, the new deal volume, as I highlighted in my prepared remarks, is shifting to Max.
Speaker #5: And that shift has approximately a $4 to $5 million near-term headwind across both subscription revenue and professional services. It's these two factors that are creating a bit of a headwind in the back half of this year.
Dave Sherry: That shift has approximately a $4 to $5 million near-term headwind across both subscription revenue and professional services. It is these two factors that are creating a bit of a headwind in the back half of this year. We continue to believe the growth and earnings potential of the business remains strong, and we are excited to put ourselves in a position to have strong FY28.
Speaker #5: We continue to believe that growth, earnings, and the growth and earnings potential of the business remain strong. And we're excited to put ourselves in a position to have a strong FY28.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Dylan Becker of William Blair. Your question, please, Dylan.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Dylan Becker of William Blair. Your question, please, Dylan.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Dylan Becker of William Blair. Your question, please, Dylan.
Speaker #7: Hi, everybody. Appreciate the question. Maybe one more. Craig at The Apple here on kind of the strategic prioritization. Ara, maybe for you—is there a way we should think about, obviously, the value and ROI you're delivering through Max enabling you to kind of capture more of that lion's share earlier to date?
Dylan Becker: Hey, everybody, appreciate the question. Maybe one more crack at the apple here on the strategic prioritization. Ara, maybe for you, is there a way we should think about, obviously, the value and ROI you are delivering through Max, enabling you to capture more of that lion's share earlier to date? If that is the case, maybe how that gives you guys incremental conviction in extending that value prop to adjacent trades over time, effectively making the value proposition more compelling, similar to what you saw as the platform evolved on a pre-AI basis, if that makes sense.
Dylan Becker: Hey, everybody, appreciate the question. Maybe one more crack at the apple here on the strategic prioritization. Ara, maybe for you, is there a way we should think about, obviously, the value and ROI you are delivering through Max, enabling you to capture more of that lion's share earlier to date? If that is the case, maybe how that gives you guys incremental conviction in extending that value prop to adjacent trades over time, effectively making the value proposition more compelling, similar to what you saw as the platform evolved on a pre-AI basis, if that makes sense.
Speaker #7: And if that is the case, maybe how that kind of gives you guys incremental conviction in extending that value prop to adjacent trades over time, effectively making the value proposition more compelling—similar to what you saw as the platform evolved in a pre-AI basis, if that makes sense.
Speaker #5: Yeah. So what we're seeing is that for customers that are in the sales cycle now, where we introduce Max early on, the appetite to not just wait until after they're live with a core and then incrementally grow is actually pretty promising.
Vahe Kuzoyan: Yeah. What we are seeing is that for customers that are in the sales cycle now, where we introduced Max early on, the appetite to not just wait until after they are live with the core and then incrementally grow is actually pretty promising. Our ability to then go through that process with customers is what we are in the process of validating and what we are excited about in terms of launching full GA for Max in home trades. The exact implications in terms of the speed with which we are able to capture the full opportunity, really depends on how much of the Max apple they bite on that first one versus the subsequent packages around demand, field, back office, and the sequence with which they go, as well as the rev rec implications relative to what we had previously.
Vahe Kuzoyan: Yeah. What we are seeing is that for customers that are in the sales cycle now, where we introduced Max early on, the appetite to not just wait until after they are live with the core and then incrementally grow is actually pretty promising. Our ability to then go through that process with customers is what we are in the process of validating and what we are excited about in terms of launching full GA for Max in home trades.
Speaker #5: And so, our ability to then go through that process with customers is what we're in the process of validating. And we're excited about it in terms of launching full GA for Max in-home trades.
Speaker #5: The exact implications, in terms of the speed with which we're able to capture the full opportunity, really depend on how much of the Max Apple they bite on that first one versus these subsequent packages around demand, field, and back office.
Vahe Kuzoyan: The exact implications in terms of the speed with which we are able to capture the full opportunity, really depends on how much of the Max apple they bite on that first one versus the subsequent packages around demand, field, back office, and the sequence with which they go, as well as the rev rec implications relative to what we had previously.
Speaker #5: And the sequence with which they go, as well as the rev rec implications relative to what we had previously, is unclear right now in terms of exactly what that acceleration looks like, what proportion, and what complexion is going to take on which flavor.
Vahe Kuzoyan: It's unclear right now in terms of exactly what that acceleration looks like, what proportion and complexion is going to take on which flavor. But the early signals are promising, and we're really excited about it.
Vahe Kuzoyan: It's unclear right now in terms of exactly what that acceleration looks like, what proportion and complexion is going to take on which flavor. But the early signals are promising, and we're really excited about it.
Speaker #5: But the early signals are promising, and we're really excited about it.
Speaker #7: Perfect. Thank you, Valerio. And then, maybe intersecting with you or for Dave as well, too—encouraging commentary on the virtual agents piece, doubling, I believe, quarter over quarter.
Dylan Becker: Perfect. Thank you, Vahe. Then maybe either sticking with you or for Dave as well too, encouraging commentary on the virtual agents piece doubling, I believe, quarter-over-quarter. Just any sense of how those customers continue to deploy, where they deploy virtual agents off the bat, and how they're scaling those use cases from those initial trials, maybe into more broad deployments across the portfolio. Thank you.
Dylan Becker: Perfect. Thank you, Vahe. Then maybe either sticking with you or for Dave as well too, encouraging commentary on the virtual agents piece doubling, I believe, quarter-over-quarter. Just any sense of how those customers continue to deploy, where they deploy virtual agents off the bat, and how they're scaling those use cases from those initial trials, maybe into more broad deployments across the portfolio. Thank you.
Speaker #7: So just kind of any sense of how those customers continue to kind of deploy, where they deploy, virtual agents off the bat and how they're kind of scaling those use cases from those initial trials, maybe into more broad deployments across the portfolio.
Speaker #7: Thank you.
Speaker #6: Yeah, great question. So maybe a quick recap first. We built support for dozens of additional real-life production use cases through Q1. We began our more expanded go-to-market efforts late in Q1.
Dave Sherry: Yeah, great question. So maybe a quick recap first. We built support for dozens of additional real-life production use cases through Q1. We began our more expanded go-to-market efforts late Q1, and we saw strong success in Q2 behind the early efforts of our fuller go-to-market machine. Nearly all of our customers face situations where they have a sudden influx of calls that overwhelm their office staff, as well as calls that come in after hours. Of course, when each call might represent thousands of dollars, it's very critical to book each and every one of them.
Dave Sherry: Yeah, great question. So maybe a quick recap first. We built support for dozens of additional real-life production use cases through Q1. We began our more expanded go-to-market efforts late Q1, and we saw strong success in Q2 behind the early efforts of our fuller go-to-market machine. Nearly all of our customers face situations where they have a sudden influx of calls that overwhelm their office staff, as well as calls that come in after hours. Of course, when each call might represent thousands of dollars, it's very critical to book each and every one of them.
Speaker #6: And then we saw strong success in Q2, behind the early efforts of our fuller go-to-market machine. Nearly all of our customers face situations where they have a sudden influx of calls that overwhelm their office staff, as well as calls that come in after hours.
Speaker #6: And of course, when each call might represent thousands of dollars, it's very critical to book each and every one of them. So, many customers start with overflow on after-hours, but now we also have customers—given the performance of these agents and how well they book, how human they sound, and how well they handle escalations—
Dave Sherry: Many customers start with overflow and after-hours, but now we also have customers, given the performance of these agents and how well they book, how human they sound, and how well they handle escalation, that opt to let VA handle incrementally more and more volume, especially as CSRs attrit from the business, which is one of the highest attrition roles in a contracting business.
Dave Sherry: Many customers start with overflow and after-hours, but now we also have customers, given the performance of these agents and how well they book, how human they sound, and how well they handle escalation, that opt to let VA handle incrementally more and more volume, especially as CSRs attrit from the business, which is one of the highest attrition roles in a contracting business.
Speaker #6: That allows VA to handle incrementally more and more volume, especially as CSRs attrit from the business, which is one of the highest attrition roles in a contracting business.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Billy Fitzsimmons of Piper Sandler. Your line is open, Billy.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Billy Fitzsimmons of Piper Sandler. Your line is open, Billy.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Billy Fitzsimmons of Piper Sandler. Your line is open, Billy.
Speaker #8: Hey guys, thanks for taking the question. So, you report in the press release that service standing exceeded doubling Max locations in fiscal Q2, and now there's a 700 Max location target by fiscal year end.
Billy Fitzsimmons: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. You reported in the press release that ServiceTitan exceeded doubling Max locations in fiscal Q2, and now there is a 700 Max location target by fiscal year-end. Max is obviously early and seeing good momentum. It seems like it will become a more material revenue contributor in future years. I think the two biggest questions we get on Max is, one, it takes a few quarters for customers to get live, which you guys talked about in the prepared remarks. But could that come down over time? Two, implementation seem like a white glove service right now to get customers live, and that is for good reason. Is there an upper limit or ceiling on the amount of Max customers you could add per quarter, or could that come down over time as well?
Billy Fitzsimmons: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. You reported in the press release that ServiceTitan exceeded doubling Max locations in fiscal Q2, and now there is a 700 Max location target by fiscal year-end. Max is obviously early and seeing good momentum. It seems like it will become a more material revenue contributor in future years.
Speaker #8: Max is obviously early in seeing good momentum. It seems like it'll become a more material revenue contributor in future years. I think the two biggest questions we get on Max are: one, it takes a few quarters for customers to get live, which you guys talked about in the prepared remarks.
Billy Fitzsimmons: I think the two biggest questions we get on Max is, one, it takes a few quarters for customers to get live, which you guys talked about in the prepared remarks. But could that come down over time? Two, implementation seem like a white glove service right now to get customers live, and that is for good reason. Is there an upper limit or ceiling on the amount of Max customers you could add per quarter, or could that come down over time as well?
Speaker #8: But could that come down over time? And two, implementation seemed like kind of a white-glove service right now to get customers live. And that's for good reason.
Speaker #8: Is there a kind of upper limit or ceiling on the number of Max customers you could add per quarter, or could that come down over time as well?
Speaker #8: How do we think about scaling Max Ads? Thank you.
Billy Fitzsimmons: How do we think about scaling Max adds? Thank you.
Billy Fitzsimmons: How do we think about scaling Max adds? Thank you.
Speaker #5: Great question. So the way I think about it is, it's fundamentally a two-step process. Step one is about achieving product-market fit, which for me means if you took it away from a customer, would they fight you for it?
Vahe Kuzoyan: Great question. The way I think about it is, it is fundamentally a two-step process. Step one is about achieving product market fit, which for me means if you took it away from a customer, would they fight you for it? Independent of the cost to implement or the length of time it takes, can you just reach that point? Once you reach that point, and only when you reach that point, do you go to step two of scaling, of which the biggest unlock is the ability to implement efficiently, both in terms of time and effort, while holding onto the quality. If you look at what it took to implement ServiceTitan as a whole, the core product, it went from taking several months for even the simplest use case to a fraction of that today for that same cohort.
Vahe Kuzoyan: Great question. The way I think about it is, it is fundamentally a two-step process. Step one is about achieving product market fit, which for me means if you took it away from a customer, would they fight you for it? Independent of the cost to implement or the length of time it takes, can you just reach that point?
Speaker #5: Independent of the cost to implement or the length of time it takes, can you just reach that point? Once you reach that point, and only when you reach that point, do you go to step two of scaling?
Vahe Kuzoyan: Once you reach that point, and only when you reach that point, do you go to step two of scaling, of which the biggest unlock is the ability to implement efficiently, both in terms of time and effort, while holding onto the quality. If you look at what it took to implement ServiceTitan as a whole, the core product, it went from taking several months for even the simplest use case to a fraction of that today for that same cohort.
Speaker #5: Of which the biggest unlock is the ability to implement efficiently, both in terms of time and effort, while holding on to the quality. And so, if you look at what it took to implement ServiceTitan as a whole—the core product—it went from taking several months for even the simplest use case to a fraction of that today for that same cohort.
Speaker #5: And we expect that, over time, the amount of work it takes and the level of effort required to implement Max will follow a similar trajectory.
Vahe Kuzoyan: And we expect that over time, the amount of work it takes and the level of effort it takes to implement Max will follow a similar trajectory. Our confidence in more broadly releasing Max to our in-home trades fundamentally rests on this premise. While we still have wood to chop in terms of going through the same process, I do not see anything fundamentally different that will not follow a similar path, especially with the power that we get with AI. In terms of the second question, I believe the answer is largely the same. We believe that our ability to expand will be fundamentally gated by both achieving product market fit in the expanding segments and the ones that are not served today, and doing so with an efficient onboarding process that ultimately holds the quality and delivers the outcomes.
Vahe Kuzoyan: And we expect that over time, the amount of work it takes and the level of effort it takes to implement Max will follow a similar trajectory. Our confidence in more broadly releasing Max to our in-home trades fundamentally rests on this premise. While we still have wood to chop in terms of going through the same process, I do not see anything fundamentally different that will not follow a similar path, especially with the power that we get with AI.
Speaker #5: Our confidence in more broadly releasing Max to our in-home trades fundamentally rests on this premise. And so, while we still have wood to chop in terms of going through the same process, I don't see anything fundamentally different that will not follow a similar path, especially with the power that we get with AI.
Speaker #5: In terms of the second question, I believe the answer is largely the same. We believe that our ability to expand will be fundamentally gated by both achieving product-market fit in the expanding segments and the ones that aren't served today, and doing so with an efficient onboarding process that ultimately maintains quality and delivers the outcomes.
Vahe Kuzoyan: In terms of the second question, I believe the answer is largely the same. We believe that our ability to expand will be fundamentally gated by both achieving product market fit in the expanding segments and the ones that are not served today, and doing so with an efficient onboarding process that ultimately holds the quality and delivers the outcomes.
Speaker #5: And so, it's just a matter of going through that process. Now we're focused, for in-home trades, on that scaling bit. The product-market fit will come with the other segments after that.
Vahe Kuzoyan: It is just a matter of going through that process, and now we are focused for in-home trades on that scaling bit, and the product market fit will come with the other segments after that.
Vahe Kuzoyan: It is just a matter of going through that process, and now we are focused for in-home trades on that scaling bit, and the product market fit will come with the other segments after that.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Chris Quintero of Morgan Stanley. Your question, please, Chris.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Chris Quintero of Morgan Stanley. Your question please, Chris.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Chris Quintero of Morgan Stanley. Your question please, Chris.
Speaker #7: Hey guys, thank you for taking our questions here. You all mentioned that some of your customers are not ready to fully transform their businesses yet.
Chris Quintero: Hey, guys. Thank you for taking our questions here. You all mentioned that some of your customers are not ready to fully transform their businesses yet. Curious, why do you think that is? Secondly, as you think about these new on-brand packages, are there any details you can provide as it relates to the capabilities or some of the additional details around some of those packages?
Chris Quintero: Hey, guys. Thank you for taking our questions here. You all mentioned that some of your customers are not ready to fully transform their businesses yet. Curious, why do you think that is? Secondly, as you think about these new on-brand packages, are there any details you can provide as it relates to the capabilities or some of the additional details around some of those packages?
Speaker #7: So, I'm curious—why do you think that is? And then, secondly, as you think about these new on-ramp packages, are there any details you can provide as it relates to the capabilities or some of the additional details around some of those packages?
Speaker #8: Got it. So, on the first one, we think that what we're witnessing is the natural progression of diffusion of technology that has played out as it always has, where there are certain groups that are early adopters and visionaries who look to take advantage of technology to give them a business advantage.
Vahe Kuzoyan: Got it. On the first one, we think that what we are witnessing is a natural progress of diffusion of technology that has played out how it always has, where there are certain groups that are early adopters and visionaries that look to take advantage of technology to give them a business advantage. Then there is everybody else looking from the sidelines. There is nobody who is not paying attention. From where we are sitting, the process we are going through is either somebody is ready to jump on board and see the results and success, or they are being closely watched by everybody else. That is why we are so maniacally focused on driving success to this initial cohort, because we think that anybody else who is not ready to jump on today, it is a temporary phenomenon. The results are too big and too important to ignore.
Vahe Kuzoyan: Got it. On the first one, we think that what we are witnessing is a natural progress of diffusion of technology that has played out how it always has, where there are certain groups that are early adopters and visionaries that look to take advantage of technology to give them a business advantage. Then there is everybody else looking from the sidelines.
Speaker #8: And then there’s everybody else looking from the sidelines. There is nobody who is not paying attention. And from where we’re sitting, the process we’re going through is either somebody is ready to jump on board and see the results and success, or they’re being closely watched by everybody else.
Vahe Kuzoyan: There is nobody who is not paying attention. From where we are sitting, the process we are going through is either somebody is ready to jump on board and see the results and success, or they are being closely watched by everybody else. That is why we are so maniacally focused on driving success to this initial cohort, because we think that anybody else who is not ready to jump on today, it is a temporary phenomenon. The results are too big and too important to ignore.
Speaker #8: That's why we're so maniacally focused on driving success for this initial cohort, because we think that anybody else who's not ready to jump on today is a temporary phenomenon.
Speaker #8: The results are too big and too important to ignore. So we think that the diffusion of AI, while it will happen faster than previous technology, is still going to take some time.
Vahe Kuzoyan: We think that the diffusion of AI, while it will happen faster than previous technology, is still going to take some time. The readiness to jump on board is largely a function of seeing is believing. We both see it and believe it, and believe our customers will do as well soon.
Vahe Kuzoyan: We think that the diffusion of AI, while it will happen faster than previous technology, is still going to take some time. The readiness to jump on board is largely a function of seeing is believing. We both see it and believe it, and believe our customers will do as well soon.
Speaker #8: And the readiness to jump on board is largely a function of "seeing is believing." And we both see it and believe it—and believe our customers will do as well, soon.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Scott Berg of Needham. Please go ahead, Scott.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Scott Berg of Needham. Please go ahead, Scott.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Scott Berg of Needham. Please go ahead, Scott.
Speaker #6: Hi everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. I have a follow-up, kind of, to Billy's question a moment ago, around implementations. With the, I don't know, kind of accelerated number of customers and focus that you're looking to deploy here throughout the balance of the year, do you have the right capacity around the implementation teams to actually deliver on the strategic change in shorter order?
Scott Berg: Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. I have a follow-up to Billy's question a moment ago around implementations. With the, I do not know, kind of accelerated number of customers and focus that you are looking to deploy here throughout the balance of the year, do you have the right capacity around the implementation teams to actually deliver on the strategic change in a short order, or do you have to go through a pretty intense exercise in the near term to get to the right staffing levels and deliver on the increased demand?
Scott Berg: Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. I have a follow-up to Billy's question a moment ago around implementations. With the, I do not know, kind of accelerated number of customers and focus that you are looking to deploy here throughout the balance of the year, do you have the right capacity around the implementation teams to actually deliver on the strategic change in a short order, or do you have to go through a pretty intense exercise in the near term to get to the right staffing levels and deliver on the increased demand?
Speaker #6: Or do you have to go through a pretty intense exercise in the near term to get to the right staffing levels and deliver on the increased demand?
Speaker #8: We're not planning on any meaningful increases in our staffing. We are banking on and assuming that our ability to do the implementations at or above the quality that we've seen, with significantly less effort and time on both our behalf and our customers' behalf, is going to be the enabler of us being able to hit the numbers that we just talked about without having to scale.
Vahe Kuzoyan: We are not planning on any meaningful increases in our staffing. We are banking and assuming that our ability to do the implementations at or above the quality that we have seen with significantly less effort and time on both our behalf and our customers' behalf is going to be the enabler of us being able to hit the numbers that we just talked about without having to scale our customer-facing teams in order to do so.
Vahe Kuzoyan: We are not planning on any meaningful increases in our staffing. We are banking and assuming that our ability to do the implementations at or above the quality that we have seen with significantly less effort and time on both our behalf and our customers' behalf is going to be the enabler of us being able to hit the numbers that we just talked about without having to scale our customer-facing teams in order to do so.
Speaker #8: Our customer-facing teams, in order to do so.
Speaker #6: And with that said, Scott, it's worth noting the teams will be where they are. The revenue of professional services will come in lower, as we noted in my prepared remarks, which will flow through the professional services and other gross margin.
Dave Sherry: With that said, Scott, it is worth noting the teams will be where they are. The revenue on professional services will come in lower, as we noted in my prepared remarks, which will flow through to professional services and other gross margin.
Dave Sherry: With that said, Scott, it is worth noting the teams will be where they are. The revenue on professional services will come in lower, as we noted in my prepared remarks, which will flow through to professional services and other gross margin.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tyler Radkey of Citi. Your line is open, Tyler.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tyler Radke of Citi. Your line is open, Tyler.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tyler Radke of Citi. Your line is open, Tyler.
Speaker #8: Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. I wonder if we could just spend a little bit of time again on the dynamics that you saw in the quarter, and I'm just curious if you saw divergence between different trades in terms of the order volumes and GTV performance.
Tyler Radke: Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. I wonder if we could just spend a little bit of time again on the dynamics that you saw in the quarter. I am just curious if you saw divergence between different trades in terms of the order volumes and GTV performance. Is that perhaps informing any of your views on allocating resources away from expanding into additional trades? Thanks.
Tyler Radke: Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. I wonder if we could just spend a little bit of time again on the dynamics that you saw in the quarter. I am just curious if you saw divergence between different trades in terms of the order volumes and GTV performance. Is that perhaps informing any of your views on allocating resources away from expanding into additional trades? Thanks.
Speaker #8: And is that perhaps informing any of your views on allocating resources away from expanding into additional trades? Thanks.
Speaker #6: Thanks, Tyler. I'll say, in terms of the decomposition of the GTV and how it performed relative to one another, this lead volume piece was particularly notable in HVAC, but broadly, commercial continues to be a meaningful driver of GTV growth.
Dave Sherry: Thanks, Tyler. I will say in terms of the decomposition of the GTV and how it performed relative to one another, this lead volume piece was particularly notable in HVAC. Broadly, commercial continues to be a meaningful driver of GG growth.
Dave Sherry: Thanks, Tyler. I will say in terms of the decomposition of the GTV and how it performed relative to one another, this lead volume piece was particularly notable in HVAC. Broadly, commercial continues to be a meaningful driver of GG growth.
Speaker #6: In this quarter, and in all quarters since we've been public, at a slightly lower rate in Q2 than in Q1, but it continues to be a meaningful driver of our growth.
Dave Sherry: In this quarter and all quarters since we have been public. At a slightly lower rate in Q2 than in Q1, but it continues to be a meaningful driver of our growth. Residential, our customers continue to grow nicely, but as I noted in my prepared remarks, we did see an impact on lead volumes and job growth, particularly around HVAC in the quarter.
Dave Sherry: In this quarter and all quarters since we have been public. At a slightly lower rate in Q2 than in Q1, but it continues to be a meaningful driver of our growth. Residential, our customers continue to grow nicely, but as I noted in my prepared remarks, we did see an impact on lead volumes and job growth, particularly around HVAC in the quarter.
Speaker #6: Residential—our customers continue to grow nicely, but as I noted in my prepared remarks, we did see an impact on lead volumes and job growth, particularly around HVAC in the quarter.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Nick Altman of BTIG. Your line is open, Nick.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Nick Altmann of BTIG. Your line is open, Nick.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Nick Altmann of BTIG. Your line is open, Nick.
Speaker #7: Hey, awesome. Thanks, guys. I wanted to circle back to some of the new on-ramps for Max. It basically sounds like there's maybe more of an à la carte kind of way to purchase Max versus buying the entire suite.
Nick Altmann: Hey. Awesome. Thanks, guys. I wanted to circle back to some of the new on-ramps for Max. It basically sounds like there is maybe more of an à la carte way to purchase Max versus buying the entire suite. My question is, how does that ultimately change the growth curve for Max? Because on the positive side, it does sound like it could lead to a greater volume of customers. I imagine they can implement and ramp faster and see that ASP uplift with the obvious trade-off being the ASP side of the equation. Just any commentary on how those new on-ramps ultimately change the growth trajectory of Max in your perspective, if at all. Thanks.
Nick Altmann: Hey. Awesome. Thanks, guys. I wanted to circle back to some of the new on-ramps for Max. It basically sounds like there is maybe more of an à la carte way to purchase Max versus buying the entire suite. My question is, how does that ultimately change the growth curve for Max?
Speaker #7: And my question is, how does that ultimately change the growth curve for Max? Because on the positive side, it does sound like it could lead to a greater volume of customers. I imagine they can implement and ramp faster and see that ASD uplift.
Nick Altmann: Because on the positive side, it does sound like it could lead to a greater volume of customers. I imagine they can implement and ramp faster and see that ASP uplift with the obvious trade-off being the ASP side of the equation. Just any commentary on how those new on-ramps ultimately change the growth trajectory of Max in your perspective, if at all. Thanks.
Speaker #7: With the obvious trade-off being the ASP side of the equation. So, just any commentary on how those new on-ramps ultimately kind of change the growth trajectory of Max, in your perspective, if at all?
Speaker #7: Thanks.
Speaker #6: Great question. So for the cohort of customers that are very excited and ready for the full transformation through all of Max, we have greater demand than we have the ability to implement right now, and hence the focus on making the implementation much more efficient so we can scale more quickly.
Ara Mahdessian: Great question. For the cohort of customers that are very excited and ready for the full transformation through all of Max, we have greater demand than we have the ability to implement right now, hence the focus on making the implementation much more efficient so we can scale more quickly. We also recognize, because of the traditional diffusion of technology, that there will also be cohorts that would like a more bite-sized approach, where they have urgency around transforming demand generation. Hence, we want to have a demand orchestration version of Max that allows them to see incredible results quickly before later transforming field operations. Then there will be a cohort that has more urgency around transforming field operations and seeing the results before then also doing the same on demand orchestration. Ultimately, these bites are still quite very big bites.
Ara Mahdessian: Great question. For the cohort of customers that are very excited and ready for the full transformation through all of Max, we have greater demand than we have the ability to implement right now, hence the focus on making the implementation much more efficient so we can scale more quickly. We also recognize, because of the traditional diffusion of technology, that there will also be cohorts that would like a more bite-sized approach, where they have urgency around transforming demand generation.
Speaker #6: But we also recognize, because of the traditional diffusion of technology, that there will be cohorts who prefer a more bite-sized approach, where they have urgency around transforming demand generation. Hence, we want to have a demand orchestration version of Max that allows them to see incredible results quickly, before later transforming field operations.
Ara Mahdessian: Hence, we want to have a demand orchestration version of Max that allows them to see incredible results quickly before later transforming field operations. Then there will be a cohort that has more urgency around transforming field operations and seeing the results before then also doing the same on demand orchestration. Ultimately, these bites are still quite very big bites.
Speaker #6: And then, there will be a cohort that has more urgency around transforming field operations and seeing the results. Before then, also doing the same on-demand orchestration.
Speaker #6: Ultimately, these are still quite big bites. We were talking about a very material transformation of all of demand generation and orchestration, as well as a very meaningful and significant transformation of field operations and how they sell in the field.
Ara Mahdessian: We are talking about a very material transformation of all of demand generation and orchestration, as well as a very meaningful and significant transformation of field operations and how they sell in the field.
Ara Mahdessian: We are talking about a very material transformation of all of demand generation and orchestration, as well as a very meaningful and significant transformation of field operations and how they sell in the field.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Parker Lane of Stifel. Your line is open, Parker.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Parker Lane of Stifel. Your line is open, Parker.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Parker Lane of Stifel. Your line is open, Parker.
Speaker #6: Yeah, guys, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. Nice to see the virtual agent growth remains very solid here. When you get under the hood and look at that growth, how much of that has come as a result of customers moving into virtual agents for the first time—embracing that process through ServiceTitan—versus actually going and displacing some of the competing features out there in the market?
Parker Lane: Yeah, guys. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. Nice to see the virtual agent growth remains very solid here. When you get under the hood and look at that growth, how much of that has come as a result of customers moving into virtual agents for the first time, embracing that process through ServiceTitan, versus actually going and displacing some of the competing features out there in the market?
Parker Lane: Yeah, guys. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. Nice to see the virtual agent growth remains very solid here. When you get under the hood and look at that growth, how much of that has come as a result of customers moving into virtual agents for the first time, embracing that process through ServiceTitan, versus actually going and displacing some of the competing features out there in the market?
Speaker #6: Great question. It's pretty balanced between customers that are adopting VA for the first time, as well as customers that are replacing an existing solution.
Ara Mahdessian: Great question. It is pretty balanced between customers that are adopting VA for the first time, as well as customers that are replacing an existing solution.
Ara Mahdessian: Great question. It is pretty balanced between customers that are adopting VA for the first time, as well as customers that are replacing an existing solution.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jason Celino at KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead, Jason.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jason Celino of KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead, Jason.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jason Celino of KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead, Jason.
Jason Celino: Hey, thank you for taking my question. I do not think it has been asked yet, but the Q4 revenue guide, it kind of implies that we see a little bit of acceleration versus Q3. Maybe Dave, can you maybe just speak to this a little bit? Is it just a comps issue or is it something more dynamic? Thanks.
Jason Celino: Hey, thank you for taking my question. I do not think it has been asked yet, but the Q4 revenue guide, it kind of implies that we see a little bit of acceleration versus Q3. Maybe Dave, can you maybe just speak to this a little bit? Is it just a comps issue or is it something more dynamic? Thanks.
Speaker #5: Hey, thank you for taking my question. I don't think it's been asked yet, but the Q4 revenue guide kind of implies that we see a little bit of acceleration versus Q3.
Speaker #5: Maybe, Dave, can you speak to this a little bit? Is it just a comps issue, or is it something more dynamic? Thanks.
Speaker #6: Yeah, two things there. First, there's one fewer business day in Q3 than there was in the prior year, so there's a comp driver.
Ara Mahdessian: Two things there. First, there is one fewer biz day in Q3 than there was in the prior years. There is a comp driver. The second is we do expect to see some beginning of Max flowing through in our numbers in Q4, but the primary driver is the comp issue on the biz days.
Ara Mahdessian: Two things there. First, there is one fewer biz day in Q3 than there was in the prior years. There is a comp driver. The second is we do expect to see some beginning of Max flowing through in our numbers in Q4, but the primary driver is the comp issue on the biz days.
Speaker #6: And the second is, we do expect to see some beginning of Max flowing through in our numbers in Q4, but the primary driver is the comps issue on the business days.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Terry Tillman of Truist. Please go ahead, Terry.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Terry Tillman of Truist. Please go ahead, Terry.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Terry Tillman of Truist. Please go ahead, Terry.
Speaker #8: Yeah, thanks. Most of my questions have been answered, but I’ve still got one. It’s a three-parter. I guess in terms of VA, how important or how much of an increase or unlock for new business or adoption is SMS agentic?
Terry Tillman: Yeah, thanks. Most of my questions have been answered, but I have still got one. It is a three-parter. I guess in terms of VA, how important or an increase unlock for new business or adoption is SMS agentic? When customers buy voice and SMS, is that a higher price point? Dave, do you think that the growth in VA could continue doubling for some period of time off this smaller base? Thank you.
Terry Tillman: Yeah, thanks. Most of my questions have been answered, but I have still got one. It is a three-parter. I guess in terms of VA, how important or an increase unlock for new business or adoption is SMS agentic? When customers buy voice and SMS, is that a higher price point? Dave, do you think that the growth in VA could continue doubling for some period of time off this smaller base? Thank you.
Speaker #8: When customers buy voice and SMS, is that a higher price point? And then Dave, do you think that the growth in VA could continue doubling for some period of time off the smaller base?
Speaker #8: Thank you.
Speaker #6: Everyone hit the VA piece, probably.
Ara Mahdessian: You want to hit the VA piece for Robbie?
Ara Mahdessian: You want to hit the VA piece for Robbie?
Speaker #3: Yeah. Voice and SMS are priced separately, so they result in higher revenue for us.
[Company Representative] (ServiceTitan): Voice and SMS are priced separately, so they result in higher revenue to us.
[Company Representative] (ServiceTitan): Voice and SMS are priced separately, so they result in higher revenue to us.
Speaker #6: Yeah, and they both flow through as consumption because they're charged either on a per call, per outcome, or per text message basis. They flow into your usage revenue.
Ara Mahdessian: Yeah. They both flow through as consumption because they are charged either on a per call, per outcome, or per text message basis. They flow into our usage revenue. I think that we feel pretty excited about the progress in VA, both in terms of the results we have seen attached to new customers or existing customers, and importantly, the feedback we are getting on the product side. While I do not have a specific forecast to share today, I will say that the momentum feels solid from what we are seeing today.
Ara Mahdessian: Yeah. They both flow through as consumption because they are charged either on a per call, per outcome, or per text message basis. They flow into our usage revenue. I think that we feel pretty excited about the progress in VA, both in terms of the results we have seen attached to new customers or existing customers, and importantly, the feedback we are getting on the product side. While I do not have a specific forecast to share today, I will say that the momentum feels solid from what we are seeing today.
Speaker #6: I think that we feel pretty excited about the progress in VA, both in terms of the results we've seen, the attachment to new customers or existing customers, and, importantly, the feedback we're getting on the product side.
Speaker #6: And so, while I don't have a specific forecast to share today, I will say that the momentum feels solid from what we're seeing today.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Joe Vrunk of Baird. Please go ahead, Joe.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Joe Vruwink of Baird. Please go ahead, Joe.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Joe Vruwink of Baird. Please go ahead, Joe.
Speaker #4: Hi, great. Thanks. Just going back to the focus on existing trades—when I think about some of the rooftops in a commercial practice, they tend to span into an adjacency, maybe construction.
Joe Vruwink: Hi. Great. Thanks. Just going back to the focus on existing trades. When I think about some of the rooftops in a commercial practice, they tend to span into an adjacency, maybe construction, where adding the new capabilities would help create a comprehensive offering that helps you land at the beginning. Has the thinking about this changed at all, or is the go-to-market just going to be much more targeted in commercial, where maybe this dynamic does not matter as much?
Joe Vruwink: Hi. Great. Thanks. Just going back to the focus on existing trades. When I think about some of the rooftops in a commercial practice, they tend to span into an adjacency, maybe construction, where adding the new capabilities would help create a comprehensive offering that helps you land at the beginning. Has the thinking about this changed at all, or is the go-to-market just going to be much more targeted in commercial, where maybe this dynamic does not matter as much?
Speaker #4: We're adding the new capabilities. Would it help create a more comprehensive offering that helps you land at the beginning? Has the thinking about this changed at all, or is the go-to-market just going to be much more targeted in commercial, where maybe this dynamic doesn't matter as much?
Speaker #7: Yeah, I think it's
Vahe Kuzoyan: Yeah, I think it is important that we clarify exactly what we mean by this narrowing of the aperture and what it is and what it is not. It is not taking resource away from roofing or commercial and construction. For us, as we have been discussing, construction is an absolutely integral part of winning in commercial, so that dynamic is not changing. We do not expect that investment in either of those to be reduced by any measure. The discussion here is entirely about the incremental investments that would have otherwise gone to new trades that we are not in. Everything about what we have said about commercial and construction in the past still holds.
Vahe Kuzoyan: Yeah, I think it is important that we clarify exactly what we mean by this narrowing of the aperture and what it is and what it is not. It is not taking resource away from roofing or commercial and construction. For us, as we have been discussing, construction is an absolutely integral part of winning in commercial, so that dynamic is not changing.
Speaker #4: It's important that we clarify exactly what we mean by this narrowing of the aperture—what it is and what it isn't. It is not taking resources away from roofing, or commercial and construction.
Speaker #4: And for us, as we've been discussing, construction is an absolutely integral part of winning in commercial. So that dynamic is not changing. We don't expect that investment in either of those to be reduced by any measure.
Vahe Kuzoyan: We do not expect that investment in either of those to be reduced by any measure. The discussion here is entirely about the incremental investments that would have otherwise gone to new trades that we are not in. Everything about what we have said about commercial and construction in the past still holds.
Speaker #4: The discussion here is entirely about the incremental investments that would have otherwise gone to new trades that we are not in. So, everything we've said about commercial and construction in the past still holds.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Sherman of TD Cowen.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Andrew Sherman of TD Cowen.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Andrew Sherman of TD Cowen.
Speaker #5: Oh, great. Can you hear me?
Andrew Sherman: Oh, great. Can you hear me?
Andrew Sherman: Oh, great. Can you hear me?
Speaker #4: Yep.
Vahe Kuzoyan: Yep.
Vahe Kuzoyan: Yep.
Speaker #5: Okay, thanks. Dave, I wanted to come back to the lead volumes impacts in Q2. Do you think there's some AI impact there, as customers have moved searches to other platforms?
Andrew Sherman: Okay, thanks. Dave, wanted to come back to the lead volumes impacts in Q2. Do you think there is some AI impact there as customers have moved searches to other platforms? Why was it more acute to HVAC? Can Max actually help to offset those impacts if this is what is going on with the lead agents that are in Max? Thanks.
Andrew Sherman: Okay, thanks. Dave, wanted to come back to the lead volumes impacts in Q2. Do you think there is some AI impact there as customers have moved searches to other platforms? Why was it more acute to HVAC? Can Max actually help to offset those impacts if this is what is going on with the lead agents that are in Max? Thanks.
Speaker #5: Why was it more acute to HVAC, and can Max actually help to offset those impacts if that's—if this is what's going on with the lead agents that are in Max?
Speaker #5: Thanks.
Speaker #6: So we don't have super clarity on what's driving the lead volume, but we will say that it's pretty broad-based when you look at the trades.
Ara Mahdessian: Well, we do not have super clarity on what is driving the lead volume. What we will say is that it is pretty broad-based when you look at the trades and our peers reporting the period. I do not think it is specific to us and our customers. I will say it may be something there, but I do not think right now it is something specific to our customer base. In terms of Max, I will let the founder speak to that in a second, but we do think there is an opportunity for our customers to be at the forefront of how consumers interact with AI.
Ara Mahdessian: Well, we do not have super clarity on what is driving the lead volume. What we will say is that it is pretty broad-based when you look at the trades and our peers reporting the period. I do not think it is specific to us and our customers. I will say it may be something there, but I do not think right now it is something specific to our customer base. In terms of Max, I will let the founder speak to that in a second, but we do think there is an opportunity for our customers to be at the forefront of how consumers interact with AI.
Speaker #6: And our peers are reporting the period. And so I don't think it's specific to us and our customers. So I will say there may be something there, but I don't think right now it's something specific to our customer base.
Speaker #6: In terms of Max, I'll let the founder speak to that in a second, but we do think there's an opportunity for our customers to be at the forefront of how consumers interact with AI.
Speaker #3: Indeed, I'll say one of the most important premises of Max is that it helps improve demand generation. And so, our ambition, of course, is to get Max in the hands of every customer.
Vahe Kuzoyan: Indeed. I will say one of the most important premises of Max is that it helps improve demand generation. Our ambition, of course, is to get Max in the hands of every customer so every customer can thrive on demand generation, on demand conversion into booked appointments, and then ultimately, also in close rates and average figures. Second, Max being the agentic operating system, of course, has these 30 agentic capabilities built in that are completely turnkey. Of course, customers will be able to tailor them. But also is the ability not only for customers to build additional workflows and agentic capabilities natively in Max, but lastly, for it to interact with ultimately consumer agents.
Vahe Kuzoyan: Indeed. I will say one of the most important premises of Max is that it helps improve demand generation. Our ambition, of course, is to get Max in the hands of every customer so every customer can thrive on demand generation, on demand conversion into booked appointments, and then ultimately, also in close rates and average figures.
Speaker #3: And so every customer can thrive—on demand generation, on demand conversion into booked appointments, and then ultimately also in close rates and average tickets.
Speaker #3: And then second, Max, being the agentic operating system, of course, has these 30 agentic capabilities built in that are completely turnkey. And of course, customers will be able to tailor them, but there is also the ability not only for customers to build additional workflows and agentic capabilities natively in Max, but lastly, for it to interact with, ultimately, consumer agents.
Vahe Kuzoyan: Second, Max being the agentic operating system, of course, has these 30 agentic capabilities built in that are completely turnkey. Of course, customers will be able to tailor them. But also is the ability not only for customers to build additional workflows and agentic capabilities natively in Max, but lastly, for it to interact with ultimately consumer agents.
Speaker #6: And fundamentally, our job is to outperform the market with our customers. That is the core value proposition we deliver to them.
Ara Mahdessian: Fundamentally, our job is to outperform the market with our customers. That is the core value proposition we deliver to them.
Ara Mahdessian: Fundamentally, our job is to outperform the market with our customers. That is the core value proposition we deliver to them.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Dan Jester of BMO. Please go ahead, Dan.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Dan Jester of BMO. Please go ahead, Dan.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Dan Jester of BMO. Please go ahead, Dan.
Speaker #7: Great, thanks for taking my question. I wanted to go back to the comment about leading with Max. As you think about the go-to-market organization, besides some of the packaging items you talked about, are you changing anything else with regard to that leadership with Max going forward?
Dan Jester: Great. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to go back to the comment about leading with Max. As you think about the go-to-market organization, besides some of the packaging items which you talked about, are you changing anything else with regards to that leadership with Max going forward? As these packages get ramped and put out to the broader community, would you expect that you would only lead with Max with targeted customers, or is that still maybe something further out into the future? Thank you.
Dan Jester: Great. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to go back to the comment about leading with Max. As you think about the go-to-market organization, besides some of the packaging items which you talked about, are you changing anything else with regards to that leadership with Max going forward? As these packages get ramped and put out to the broader community, would you expect that you would only lead with Max with targeted customers, or is that still maybe something further out into the future? Thank you.
Speaker #7: And as these packages get ramped and put out to the broader community, would you expect that you would only lead with Max with targeted customers, or is that still maybe something further out into the future?
Speaker #7: Thank you.
Speaker #3: I think we're seeing quite strong demand in these target segments, from new logos, for Max, from the very beginning. Of course, for some portion of that segment who might not be ready for it and who want more traditional software, we will, of course, make the existing traditional capability platform available to them to get them started.
Vahe Kuzoyan: I think we are seeing quite strong demand in these target segments, from new logos for Max from the very beginning. For some population of that segment who might not be ready for it and who want more traditional software, we will make the existing traditional platform available to them to get them started. We are seeing pretty strong demand from new logos for Max.
Vahe Kuzoyan: I think we are seeing quite strong demand in these target segments, from new logos for Max from the very beginning. For some population of that segment who might not be ready for it and who want more traditional software, we will make the existing traditional platform available to them to get them started. We are seeing pretty strong demand from new logos for Max.
Speaker #3: But we're seeing pretty strong demand for new logos for Max.
Speaker #5: And we were talking about this earlier. If Ara and I were just graduating from school and starting ServiceTitan today, we would be building Max and the agentic operating system.
Ara Mahdessian: We were talking about this earlier, if Ara and I were just graduating from school and starting ServiceTitan today, we would be building Max and the agentic operating system. This is not just some other ancillary product. We see this as the future of ServiceTitan. This is what we would be building today if we were starting from scratch. That is why we think that leading with it in the sales process is the right way to go. Finally, to close out, I think for the customer and for us, there is massive efficiencies in leading with Max because the implementation and the business transformation that goes through onboarding ServiceTitan already exists. To go straight to Max is more efficient for them and for us, which is why we are leading with it, why customers are excited about it.
Ara Mahdessian: We were talking about this earlier, if Ara and I were just graduating from school and starting ServiceTitan today, we would be building Max and the agentic operating system. This is not just some other ancillary product. We see this as the future of ServiceTitan. This is what we would be building today if we were starting from scratch.
Speaker #5: This is not just some other ancillary product. We see this as the future of ServiceTitan. And so, this is what we would be building today if we were starting from scratch.
Speaker #5: And that's why we think that leading within the sales process is the right way to go.
Ara Mahdessian: That is why we think that leading with it in the sales process is the right way to go. Finally, to close out, I think for the customer and for us, there is massive efficiencies in leading with Max because the implementation and the business transformation that goes through onboarding ServiceTitan already exists. To go straight to Max is more efficient for them and for us, which is why we are leading with it, why customers are excited about it.
Speaker #6: And finally, to close that, I think for the customer and for us, there's massive efficiencies in leading with Max, because the implementation and the business transformation that goes through onboarding ServiceTitan already exists.
Speaker #6: And to go straight to Max is more efficient for them and for us, which is why we're leading with it and why customers are excited about it.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Young Kim of Loop Capital Markets. Your line is open, Young.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Yun Kim of Loop Capital Markets. Your line is open, Yun.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Yun Kim of Loop Capital Markets. Your line is open, Yun.
Speaker #5: Okay, great. So there's a lot of information to digest here, obviously. But in light of a lot of the data that's presented, and some of the shift in the focus here, you guys did put out some upside.
Yun Kim: Okay, great. There is a lot of information to digest here, obviously, but in light of a lot of the data that is presented and some of the shifts in the focus here. You guys did put out some upside, if you can just talk about where, highlight some of the drivers of the upside here beyond, obviously, the Max adoption, which is not translating into revenue today. Any outperformance that you can highlight?
Yun Kim: Okay, great. There is a lot of information to digest here, obviously, but in light of a lot of the data that is presented and some of the shifts in the focus here. You guys did put out some upside, if you can just talk about where, highlight some of the drivers of the upside here beyond, obviously, the Max adoption, which is not translating into revenue today. Any outperformance that you can highlight?
Speaker #5: And if you can, just talk about or highlight some of the drivers of the upside here, beyond obviously the Max adoption, which isn't translating into revenue today.
Speaker #5: Is there any outperformance that you can highlight?
Speaker #6: Absolutely. Thank you. This is a pretty important question, and I want to take the opportunity to be a bit specific about it. So, let me say a couple of things.
Dave Sherry: Absolutely. Yun, thank you. This is a pretty important question. I want to take the opportunity to be a bit specific about it. Let me say a couple of things. First, as we think about our guidance, the first and foremost principle in this quarter and always is conviction in our ability to deliver on the numbers we put in front of you. Second, beyond ensuring we deliver what we say, if you step back and look at our track record, an average quarterly beat versus the midpoint of our guidance has been in sort of the $9 million to $10 million range, with a primary source of variance coming from GTV and a bit from professional services.
Dave Sherry: Absolutely. Yun, thank you. This is a pretty important question. I want to take the opportunity to be a bit specific about it. Let me say a couple of things. First, as we think about our guidance, the first and foremost principle in this quarter and always is conviction in our ability to deliver on the numbers we put in front of you. Second, beyond ensuring we deliver what we say, if you step back and look at our track record, an average quarterly beat versus the midpoint of our guidance has been in sort of the $9 million to $10 million range, with a primary source of variance coming from GTV and a bit from professional services.
Speaker #6: First, as we think about our guidance, the first and foremost principle in this quarter, and always, is conviction in our ability to deliver on the numbers we put in front of you.
Speaker #6: Second, beyond ensuring what we deliver, what we say, if you step back and look at our track record and average quarterly beat versus the midpoint of our guidance has been in sort of the 9 to 10 million dollar range, with the primary source of variance coming from GTV and a bit from professional services.
Dave Sherry: Third, in quarters where our beats have been larger, we have been pretty transparent that the usage revenue has been the primary driver, generally driven by GTV outperformance, and that we expect there to be quarters where the inverse happens, which is exactly what happened in Q2. Finally, had Q2 GTV been in our normal expected range and had the business day benefit materialized as we expected, you would have seen roughly another $1.5 million, $2 million or so in Fintech revenue, which would have put the performance exactly in line with our normal performance versus our guidance. We continue to prioritize the consistency of this track record, and we have rolled forward the GTV trends we saw in Q2 into the back half of the year to ensure that we are able to deliver on a consistent cadence with you all.
Dave Sherry: Third, in quarters where our beats have been larger, we have been pretty transparent that the usage revenue has been the primary driver, generally driven by GTV outperformance, and that we expect there to be quarters where the inverse happens, which is exactly what happened in Q2. Finally, had Q2 GTV been in our normal expected range and had the business day benefit materialized as we expected, you would have seen roughly another $1.5 million, $2 million or so in Fintech revenue, which would have put the performance exactly in line with our normal performance versus our guidance. We continue to prioritize the consistency of this track record, and we have rolled forward the GTV trends we saw in Q2 into the back half of the year to ensure that we are able to deliver on a consistent cadence with you all.
Speaker #6: In this quarter, and in quarters where our beats have been larger, we've been pretty transparent that the usage revenue has been the primary driver, generally driven by GTVF performance.
Speaker #6: And that we expect there to be quarters where the inverse happens, which is exactly what happened in Q2. Finally, had Q2 GTV been in our normal expected range, and had the business day benefit materialized as we expected, you'd have seen roughly another $1.5 million to $2 million or so in fintech revenue, which would have put the performance exactly in line with our normal performance versus our guidance.
Speaker #6: We continue to prioritize the consistency of this track record, and we have rolled forward the GTV trends we saw in Q2 into the back half of the year.
Speaker #6: To ensure that we're able to deliver on a consistent cadence with you all.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Now I'd like to turn the conference back to our moderator for closing remarks. Sir?
Operator: Thank you. I would now like to turn the conference back to Ara Mahdessian for closing remarks. Sir?
Operator: Thank you. I would now like to turn the conference back to Ara Mahdessian for closing remarks. Sir?
Speaker #3: Thank you, Matiz. And thank you, everyone, for joining us today. I just want to close by thanking all the Titans around the world who show up every day to make our customers successful.
Ara Mahdessian: Thank you, Lakheech, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today. I just want to close by thanking all the Titans around the world who show up every day to make our customers successful. Pantheon is our most exciting time of the year. We are excited to host thousands of customers, partners, and hopefully many of you for the future of the agentic operating system for the trades.
Ara Mahdessian: Thank you, Lakheech, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today. I just want to close by thanking all the Titans around the world who show up every day to make our customers successful. Pantheon is our most exciting time of the year. We are excited to host thousands of customers, partners, and hopefully many of you for the future of the agentic operating system for the trades.
Speaker #3: Pantheon is our most exciting time of the year. We're excited to host thousands of customers, partners, and, hopefully, many of you—for the future of the agentic operating system for the trades.
Operator: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now dis-
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