Full Year 2026 PolyNovo Ltd Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the PolyNovo FY26 results webcast. All participants are in listen-only mode. There will be a presentation followed by a question-and-answer session.
Operator: Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the PolyNovo FY26 results webcast. All participants are in a listen-only mode. There will be a presentation followed by a question and answer session. If you wish to ask a question via the phone, you will need to press the star key followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad. If you wish to ask a question via the webcast, please enter it into the Ask a Question box and hit Submit. I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Bruce Peatey, Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the PolyNovo FY26 results webcast. All participants are in a listen-only mode. There will be a presentation followed by a question and answer session. If you wish to ask a question via the phone, you will need to press the star key followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad. If you wish to ask a question via the webcast, please enter it into the Ask a Question box and hit Submit. I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Bruce Peatey, Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: If you wish to ask a question via the phones, you will need to press the star key, followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad. If you wish to ask a question via the webcast, please enter it into the 'Ask a Question' box and hit submit.
Speaker #1: I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Bruce Peede, Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Good morning, everyone.
Bruce Peatey: Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Since joining PolyNovo last December, I've spent time with customers, clinicians, employees, and shareholders around the world while also reviewing the business in detail. My confident assessment is that PolyNovo is developing into a stronger, more capable business with a sustainable runway of potential for us to capture. Looking ahead, FY27 is less about building capability and more about converting that capability into outcomes, reliable performance, broader adoption of the portfolio, and milestone completion, leading to stronger returns and long-term shareholder value. With that context, I will be sharing some key highlights from FY26, the opportunity ahead, and our key priorities for FY27 before handing over to Jan to review the FY26 financial results. We go to the next slide. We have here the standard disclaimers. Move to the next slide.
Bruce Peatey: Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Since joining PolyNovo last December, I've spent time with customers, clinicians, employees, and shareholders around the world while also reviewing the business in detail. My confident assessment is that PolyNovo is developing into a stronger, more capable business with a sustainable runway of potential for us to capture. Looking ahead, FY27 is less about building capability and more about converting that capability into outcomes, reliable performance, broader adoption of the portfolio, and milestone completion, leading to stronger returns and long-term shareholder value. With that context, I will be sharing some key highlights from FY26, the opportunity ahead, and our key priorities for FY27 before handing over to Jan to review the FY26 financial results. We go to the next slide. We have here the standard disclaimers. Move to the next slide.
Speaker #3: Good morning, everyone.
Speaker #2: Thank you for joining us.
Speaker #3: Since joining Polynovo last December, I've spent time with customers, technicians, employees, and shareholders around the world. While also reviewing the business in detail, my confident assessment is that Polynovo is developing into a stronger, more capable business with a sustainable runway of potential for us to capture.
Speaker #3: Looking ahead, FY27 is less about building capability and more about converting that capability into outcomes: reliable performance, broader adoption of the portfolio, and milestone completion.
Speaker #3: Leading to stronger returns and long-term shareholder value. With that context, I will be sharing some key highlights from FY26, the opportunity ahead, and our key priorities for FY27 before handing over to Yan to review the FY26 financial results.
Speaker #3: So, go to the next slide. We have here the standard disclaimers. Move to the next slide. So, the origins of Polynovo are centered around large, complex burns.
Bruce Peatey: The origins of PolyNovo are centered around large, complex burns. The way NovoSorb BTM uniquely and specifically addresses the care needs of critically ill burns patients, providing surgeons with the time and control they need to address these complex cases, has truly redefined what is possible in this category. Increasingly, we are seeing NovoSorb BTM and now MTX used across trauma, reconstruction, limb salvage, and other complex wounds, reflecting the versatility of the NovoSorb portfolio. As more surgeons are seeing positive outcomes in new procedures using our products, the potential for growth strengthens. Combined, these markets have an estimated total available market in excess of $2 billion US. I want to be clear, BTM in large burns built PolyNovo's clinical credibility and will remain an important growth lever for the future.
Bruce Peatey: The origins of PolyNovo are centered around large, complex burns. The way NovoSorb BTM uniquely and specifically addresses the care needs of critically ill burns patients, providing surgeons with the time and control they need to address these complex cases, has truly redefined what is possible in this category. Increasingly, we are seeing NovoSorb BTM and now MTX used across trauma, reconstruction, limb salvage, and other complex wounds, reflecting the versatility of the NovoSorb portfolio. As more surgeons are seeing positive outcomes in new procedures using our products, the potential for growth strengthens. Combined, these markets have an estimated total available market in excess of $2 billion US. I want to be clear, BTM in large burns built PolyNovo's clinical credibility and will remain an important growth lever for the future.
Speaker #3: The way Novus, or BTM, uniquely and specifically addresses the care needs of critically ill burns patients—providing surgeons with the time and control they need to address these complex cases—has really, truly redefined what is possible in this category.
Speaker #3: Increasingly, we are seeing Novus, or BTM, and now MTX used across trauma, reconstruction, limb salvage, and other complex wounds, reflecting the versatility of the Novus portfolio.
Speaker #3: As more surgeons are seeing positive outcomes in new procedures using our products, the potential for growth strengthens. Combined, these markets have an estimated total available market in excess of $2 billion US dollars.
Speaker #3: I want to be clear, BTM in large burns built PolyNovo's clinical credibility and will remain an important growth lever for the future. But the opportunity for NovoSorb is much broader.
Bruce Peatey: The opportunity for NovoSorb is much broader, and that matters because PolyNovo is fundamentally a platform company with a significant complex wounds business today and broader potential over time. It was important for me to include these images today. The patients' lives from around the world that we positively impact through our technology is a source of daily inspiration and pride for our entire team. Go to the next slide. During FY26, we increased our focus on strengthening our foundations, while our commercial momentum continued with more cases covered than ever before in more types of procedures in more hospitals and countries around the world. The clinical study report for the US pivotal RCT is now finalized, representing an important milestone for PolyNovo.
Bruce Peatey: The opportunity for NovoSorb is much broader, and that matters because PolyNovo is fundamentally a platform company with a significant complex wounds business today and broader potential over time. It was important for me to include these images today. The patients' lives from around the world that we positively impact through our technology is a source of daily inspiration and pride for our entire team. Go to the next slide. During FY26, we increased our focus on strengthening our foundations, while our commercial momentum continued with more cases covered than ever before in more types of procedures in more hospitals and countries around the world. The clinical study report for the US pivotal RCT is now finalized, representing an important milestone for PolyNovo.
Speaker #3: And that matters because PolyNovo is fundamentally a platform company with a significant complex wounds business today, and broader potential over time. It was important for me to include these images today.
Speaker #3: The patients' lives from around the world that we positively impact through our technology are a source of daily inspiration and pride for our entire team.
Speaker #3: Go to the next slide. During FY26, we increased our focus on strengthening our foundations. While our commercial momentum continued, with more cases covered than ever before, in more types of procedures, in more hospitals and countries around the world.
Speaker #3: The clinical study report for the U.S. pivotal RCT is now finalized, representing an important milestone for PolyNovo. We have successfully completed one of the largest and most rigorous burn studies conducted in decades.
Bruce Peatey: We have successfully completed one of the largest and most rigorous burn studies conducted in decades, and we look forward to updating investors on the trial results as we progress through the next stages of regulatory review and commercialization. We are pleased to share that BTM received regulatory clearance in 8 additional markets. MTX continued its commercial rollout, achieving close to 90% year-on-year growth in FY26. We expect the momentum to continue as clinical evidence and clinician experiences continue to grow. The new manufacturing facility construction has been completed with transition plans underway, and our leadership team was strengthened with proven capabilities spanning science, quality, IP, and governance. We also have invested in critical strategic marketing and market access capabilities to actively drive the next wave of growth. Each of these elements will make us more capable to scale the organization and power the financial growth trajectory. Next slide.
Bruce Peatey: We have successfully completed one of the largest and most rigorous burn studies conducted in decades, and we look forward to updating investors on the trial results as we progress through the next stages of regulatory review and commercialization. We are pleased to share that BTM received regulatory clearance in 8 additional markets. MTX continued its commercial rollout, achieving close to 90% year-on-year growth in FY26. We expect the momentum to continue as clinical evidence and clinician experiences continue to grow. The new manufacturing facility construction has been completed with transition plans underway, and our leadership team was strengthened with proven capabilities spanning science, quality, IP, and governance. We also have invested in critical strategic marketing and market access capabilities to actively drive the next wave of growth. Each of these elements will make us more capable to scale the organization and power the financial growth trajectory. Next slide.
Speaker #3: And we look forward to updating investors on the trial results as we progress through the next stages of regulatory review and commercialization. We're also pleased to share that BTM received regulatory clearance in eight additional markets.
Speaker #3: MTX continued its commercial rollout, achieving close to 90% year-on-year growth in FY26. We expect that momentum to continue as clinical evidence and clinician experiences continue to grow.
Speaker #3: The new manufacturing facility construction has been completed, with transition plans underway, and our leadership team was strengthened with proven capabilities spanning science, quality, IP, and governance.
Speaker #3: We have also invested in critical strategic marketing and market access capabilities to actively drive the next wave of growth. Each of these elements will make us more capable of scaling the organization and powering the financial growth trajectory.
Speaker #3: Next slide. Sharing some of the financial highlights here. FY26 continued to deliver growth, with the Group, the US, and the Rest of the World sales all growing greater than 21% in constant currency.
Bruce Peatey: Sharing some of the financial highlights here. FY26 continued to deliver growth with the group, the US, and the rest of the world sales all growing greater than 21% in constant currency. We have added constant currency detail in response to the volatile Forex landscape over the previous year and to give a more accurate reflection of the local market momentum. Importantly, EBITDA grew significantly versus prior year while we continue to invest in the infrastructure and capabilities mentioned previously. We are very pleased with the improvement in operating cash flow, in line with the expectations communicated in the H1 earnings update, generating AUD 9.4 million in free cash flow for the year. Jan will take you through the financial performance and key drivers in more detail shortly. Next slide.
Bruce Peatey: Sharing some of the financial highlights here. FY26 continued to deliver growth with the group, the US, and the rest of the world sales all growing greater than 21% in constant currency. We have added constant currency detail in response to the volatile Forex landscape over the previous year and to give a more accurate reflection of the local market momentum. Importantly, EBITDA grew significantly versus prior year while we continue to invest in the infrastructure and capabilities mentioned previously. We are very pleased with the improvement in operating cash flow, in line with the expectations communicated in the H1 earnings update, generating AUD 9.4 million in free cash flow for the year. Jan will take you through the financial performance and key drivers in more detail shortly. Next slide.
Speaker #3: We've added constant currency detail in response to the volatile forex landscape over the previous year and to give a more accurate reflection of the local market momentum.
Speaker #3: Importantly, EBITDA grew significantly versus the prior year, while we continued to invest in the infrastructure and capabilities mentioned previously. We're very pleased with the improvement in operating cash flow, in line with expectations communicated in the first half earnings update, generating $9.4 million in free cash flow for the year.
Speaker #3: Yan will take you through the financial performance and key drivers in more detail shortly. Next slide. I recognize there may be some questions around the trajectory of growth in the United States during the second half of FY26.
Bruce Peatey: I recognize there may be some questions around the trajectory of growth in the United States during the H2 of FY26, so let's address that here. This chart depicts the sales growth trajectory over recent years in the US, comparing revenue from large burn procedures to all other procedures. Large burn cases are lumpy by nature. The presentation of large burn cases are infrequent and variable in magnitude, which can impact sales variances more than other typical market forces. A good example is that we saw strong growth in large burn cases in the H1 of FY26 after a period of lower growth. We saw less of those large cases presented in the H2 of 2026. Meanwhile, the deliberate expansion into procedures beyond large burns, including the introduction of MTX, is paying off, with a 52.8% three-year CAGR coming from an increasing number of complex wound applications.
Bruce Peatey: I recognize there may be some questions around the trajectory of growth in the United States during the H2 of FY26, so let's address that here. This chart depicts the sales growth trajectory over recent years in the US, comparing revenue from large burn procedures to all other procedures. Large burn cases are lumpy by nature. The presentation of large burn cases are infrequent and variable in magnitude, which can impact sales variances more than other typical market forces. A good example is that we saw strong growth in large burn cases in the H1 of FY26 after a period of lower growth. We saw less of those large cases presented in the H2 of 2026. Meanwhile, the deliberate expansion into procedures beyond large burns, including the introduction of MTX, is paying off, with a 52.8% three-year CAGR coming from an increasing number of complex wound applications.
Speaker #3: So let's address that here. This chart depicts the sales growth trajectory over recent years in the US, comparing revenue from large burn procedures to all other procedures.
Speaker #3: Large burn cases are lumpy by nature. The presentation of large burn cases is infrequent and variable in magnitude, which can impact sales variances more than other typical market forces.
Speaker #3: A good example is that we saw strong growth in large burn cases in the first half of FY26, after a period of lower growth.
Speaker #3: We saw fewer of those large cases presented in the second half of 2026. Meanwhile, the deliberate expansion into procedures beyond large burns, including the introduction of MTX, is paying off.
Speaker #3: With a 52.8% three-year CAGR coming from an increasing number of complex wound applications. Now, this is important because it demonstrates that complex wounds are not simply a future opportunity.
Bruce Peatey: Now, this is important because it demonstrates that complex wounds are not simply a future opportunity. They are already an increasingly important growth engine. Finishing FY26 with a record sales month in June for the US provides confidence that this is not a business that is running out of opportunity. It does suggest our growth drivers are rightly changing, broadening, and maturing. I am pleased to share that we started FY27 continuing the FY26 momentum with a group sales record for July. Next slide. MTX is a good example of our ability to leverage the NovoSorb platform into new clinical applications and generate meaningful commercial traction. In FY26, sales increased to AUD 12.6 million from AUD 6.7 million in the previous year, with MTX now commercially available across 6 markets, and the regulatory pathway is well underway for the UK.
Bruce Peatey: Now, this is important because it demonstrates that complex wounds are not simply a future opportunity. They are already an increasingly important growth engine. Finishing FY26 with a record sales month in June for the US provides confidence that this is not a business that is running out of opportunity. It does suggest our growth drivers are rightly changing, broadening, and maturing. I am pleased to share that we started FY27 continuing the FY26 momentum with a group sales record for July. Next slide. MTX is a good example of our ability to leverage the NovoSorb platform into new clinical applications and generate meaningful commercial traction. In FY26, sales increased to AUD 12.6 million from AUD 6.7 million in the previous year, with MTX now commercially available across 6 markets, and the regulatory pathway is well underway for the UK.
Speaker #3: They are already an increasingly important growth engine. Finishing FY26 with a record sales month in June for the US provides confidence that this is not a business that is running out of opportunity.
Speaker #3: It does suggest our growth drivers are rightly changing, broadening, and maturing. I'm pleased to share that we started FY27 continuing the FY26 momentum, with a group sales record for July.
Speaker #3: Next slide. MTX is a good example of our ability to leverage the NovoSorb platform into new clinical applications and generate meaningful commercial traction.
Speaker #3: In FY26, sales increased to $12.6 million from $6.7 million in the previous year, with MTX now commercially available across six markets. The regulatory pathway is well underway for the UK.
Speaker #3: Most encouraging is what we are hearing from our clinicians about the positive outcomes they're experiencing using MTX, either standalone or increasingly in combination with BTM.
Bruce Peatey: Most encouraging is what we are hearing from our clinicians about the positive outcomes they are experiencing using MTX either standalone or increasingly in combination with BTM. We have just shared a few of the comments here on the right. MTX's versatility in combination with the NovoSorb credibility gained from BTM, is enabling use across a broad range of reconstructive and complex wound challenges, supporting our confidence in the opportunity for further adoption. Next slide. The body of evidence supporting broader adoption of NovoSorb's portfolio across wider range of clinical applications continues to grow, validating the credibility of NovoSorb technology. While there is still a lot to focus on BTM and burns, we continue to see significant growth in evidence outside of burns applications in an array of complex wounds. Another indicator of broadening clinical acceptance is the inclusion of NovoSorb BTM in academic textbooks, and this step got me excited.
Bruce Peatey: Most encouraging is what we are hearing from our clinicians about the positive outcomes they are experiencing using MTX either standalone or increasingly in combination with BTM. We have just shared a few of the comments here on the right. MTX's versatility in combination with the NovoSorb credibility gained from BTM, is enabling use across a broad range of reconstructive and complex wound challenges, supporting our confidence in the opportunity for further adoption. Next slide. The body of evidence supporting broader adoption of NovoSorb's portfolio across wider range of clinical applications continues to grow, validating the credibility of NovoSorb technology. While there is still a lot to focus on BTM and burns, we continue to see significant growth in evidence outside of burns applications in an array of complex wounds.
Speaker #3: We've just shared a few of the comments here on the right. MTX's versatility, in combination with the Novosorb or the credibility gained from BTM, is enabling use across a broad range of reconstructive and complex wound challenges, supporting our confidence in the opportunity for further adoption.
Speaker #3: Next slide. Now, the body of evidence supporting broader adoption of NovoSorb, our portfolio, across a wider range of clinical applications continues to grow, validating the credibility of NovoSorb technology.
Speaker #3: While there is still a lot to focus on with BTM in burns, we continue to see significant growth in evidence outside of burns applications, across an array of complex wounds.
Speaker #3: Another indicator of broadening clinical acceptance is the inclusion of NovoSorb BTM in academic textbooks. And this step got me excited—BTM was included in nine published textbook chapters in FY26 alone.
Bruce Peatey: Another indicator of broadening clinical acceptance is the inclusion of NovoSorb BTM in academic textbooks, and this step got me excited.
Bruce Peatey: BTM was included in 9 published textbook chapters in FY26 alone, compared to just one chapter across all of the earlier years. Next slide. Moving to geographic perspective. All regions continue to experience strong growth, with Americas exceeding AUD 100 million for the first time. There is no single growth lever in which our outlook depends. We have different opportunities at different stages of maturity across each region. In North America, the major opportunity includes PMA approval and the RCT clinical study report, entering outpatient care in FY27 and deeper penetration of existing accounts in MTX. Outside of the US, there remains significant runway through new products and indications, and FY27 will be about matching investment and commercial execution to the maturity of each market, deepening penetration where we are established, while selectively building markets with a quantifiable opportunity for NovoSorb introduction. Next slide.
Bruce Peatey: BTM was included in 9 published textbook chapters in FY26 alone, compared to just one chapter across all of the earlier years. Next slide. Moving to geographic perspective. All regions continue to experience strong growth, with Americas exceeding AUD 100 million for the first time. There is no single growth lever in which our outlook depends. We have different opportunities at different stages of maturity across each region. In North America, the major opportunity includes PMA approval and the RCT clinical study report, entering outpatient care in FY27 and deeper penetration of existing accounts in MTX. Outside of the US, there remains significant runway through new products and indications, and FY27 will be about matching investment and commercial execution to the maturity of each market, deepening penetration where we are established, while selectively building markets with a quantifiable opportunity for NovoSorb introduction. Next slide.
Speaker #3: Compared to just one chapter across all of the earlier years. Next slide. So, moving to the geographic perspective, all regions continue to experience strong growth, with Americas exceeding $100 million Australian dollars for the first time.
Speaker #3: There's no single growth lever on which our outlook depends. We have different opportunities at different stages of maturity across each region. In North America, the major opportunities include PMA approval and the RCT clinical study report entering outpatient care in FY27, as well as deeper penetration of existing accounts and MTX.
Speaker #3: Outside of the US, there remains significant runway through new products and indications. In FY27, we'll be about matching investment and commercial execution to the maturity of each market, deepening penetration where we're established, while selectively building markets with a quantifiable opportunity for Novosorb introduction.
Speaker #3: Next slide. So let me start here by confirming that our ambition as a growth company remains high. The focus of the leadership team is now to translate that ambition into clear direction and accountable actions.
Bruce Peatey: Let me start here by confirming that our ambition as a growth company remains high. The focus of the leadership team is now to translate that ambition into clear direction and accountable actions. Our strategy starts with the strength of what we already have, which is a differentiated complex wound portfolio, established clinical leadership, and a significant opportunity for deeper penetration in existing markets. The next phase is about leveraging the portfolio more deliberately to maintain strong growth in BTM and MTX and soon to come SynPath by prioritizing application opportunities where clinical need and potential commercial return are the strongest. By leveraging the platform, we commit to increase the velocity of our innovation engine. This includes next generation products to fuel expansion in our core business and getting back to the science of our polymer technology to unlock potential new ways. Every company goes through evolutionary inflection points.
Bruce Peatey: Let me start here by confirming that our ambition as a growth company remains high. The focus of the leadership team is now to translate that ambition into clear direction and accountable actions. Our strategy starts with the strength of what we already have, which is a differentiated complex wound portfolio, established clinical leadership, and a significant opportunity for deeper penetration in existing markets. The next phase is about leveraging the portfolio more deliberately to maintain strong growth in BTM and MTX and soon to come SynPath by prioritizing application opportunities where clinical need and potential commercial return are the strongest. By leveraging the platform, we commit to increase the velocity of our innovation engine. This includes next generation products to fuel expansion in our core business and getting back to the science of our polymer technology to unlock potential new ways. Every company goes through evolutionary inflection points.
Speaker #3: Our strategy starts with the strength of what we already have, which is a differentiated complex wound portfolio, established clinical leadership, and a significant opportunity for deeper penetration in existing markets.
Speaker #3: The next phase is about leveraging the portfolio more deliberately to maintain strong growth in BTM, MTX, and soon-to-come SIMPATH, by prioritizing application opportunities where clinical need and potential commercial return are the strongest.
Speaker #3: By leveraging the platform, we can commit to increasing the velocity of our innovation engine. This includes next-generation products to fuel expansion in our core business and getting back to the science of our polymer technology to unlock potential new ways.
Speaker #3: Every company goes through evolutionary inflection points. PolyNovo has grown substantially over the several years. Our commercial teams are expanding, and our manufacturing output and capacity are increasing in a highly regulated market.
Bruce Peatey: PolyNovo has grown substantially over the several years. Our commercial teams are expanding, our manufacturing output and capacity is increasing in a highly regulated market. We plan to sharpen our focus on organizational capability and accountability during FY27 to translate clinical leadership into sustainable long-term value. Next slide. Our opportunity is broad, so one of the most important things we can do as a management team is be clear about where we focus our resources. For FY27, that means 5 priorities. Advancing PMA to approval and sharing the RCT results when appropriate, launching SynPath into the US outpatients market, accelerating MTX, increasing our innovation velocity, including adding business development capabilities, and improving operating leverage as we scale. The common thread is execution. Converting the capabilities and investments we have made into commercial outcomes, sustainable growth and stronger returns. I will hand you over to Jan now with these thoughts.
Bruce Peatey: PolyNovo has grown substantially over the several years. Our commercial teams are expanding, our manufacturing output and capacity is increasing in a highly regulated market. We plan to sharpen our focus on organizational capability and accountability during FY27 to translate clinical leadership into sustainable long-term value. Next slide. Our opportunity is broad, so one of the most important things we can do as a management team is be clear about where we focus our resources. For FY27, that means 5 priorities. Advancing PMA to approval and sharing the RCT results when appropriate, launching SynPath into the US outpatients market, accelerating MTX, increasing our innovation velocity, including adding business development capabilities, and improving operating leverage as we scale. The common thread is execution. Converting the capabilities and investments we have made into commercial outcomes, sustainable growth and stronger returns. I will hand you over to Jan now with these thoughts.
Speaker #3: So, we plan to sharpen our focus on organizational capability and accountability during FY27 to translate clinical leadership into sustainable, long-term value. Next slide. Our opportunity is broad, so one of the most important things we can do as a management team is to be clear about where we focus our resources.
Speaker #3: For FY27, that means five priorities: advancing PMA to approval and sharing the RCT results when appropriate; launching SIMPATH into the US outpatient market; accelerating MTX; increasing our innovation velocity, including adding business development capabilities; and improving operating leverage as we scale.
Speaker #3: The common thread is execution—converting the capabilities and investments we have made into commercial outcomes, sustainable growth, and stronger returns. So, I'll hand you over to Yarn now with these thoughts.
Speaker #3: The platform is proven, and its full potential has not yet been realized. Burns remain an important foundation, while complex wounds, MTX, outpatient care, and other applications substantially broaden the opportunity.
Bruce Peatey: The platform is proven, and its full potential has not yet been realized. Burns remain an important foundation while complex wounds, MTX, outpatient care, and other applications substantially broaden the opportunity. This is not simply an aspiration. Non-burn indications are already growing considerably faster. MTX is gaining traction, and there are multiple growth levers across geographies and care settings. The difference you should expect under the refreshed leadership team is focus and execution. Thank you. Over to you, Jan.
Bruce Peatey: The platform is proven, and its full potential has not yet been realized. Burns remain an important foundation while complex wounds, MTX, outpatient care, and other applications substantially broaden the opportunity. This is not simply an aspiration. Non-burn indications are already growing considerably faster. MTX is gaining traction, and there are multiple growth levers across geographies and care settings. The difference you should expect under the refreshed leadership team is focus and execution. Thank you. Over to you, Jan.
Speaker #3: This isn't simply an aspiration. Non-burn indications are already growing considerably faster. MTX is gaining traction, and there are multiple growth levers across geographies and care settings.
Speaker #3: The difference you should expect under the refreshed leadership team is focus and execution. Thank you. Over to you, Yann.
Speaker #1: Great, thanks, Bruce. Next slide, please. And thanks again, everyone, for joining the webcast today. I'll start with our commercial sales performance. NovoSorb product sales were $138 million for the year, up 16.7% on last year and, in constant currency, up 21.3%, as Bruce just mentioned.
Jan Gielen: Great. Thanks, Bruce. Next slide, please. Thanks again, everyone, for joining the webcast today. I will start with our commercial sales performance. NovoSorb product sales were AUD 138 million for the year, up 16.7% on last year, and in constant currency up 21.3%, as Bruce just mentioned. In dollar terms, sales increased by AUD 19.7 million. The year ended with a strong June result, including a record sales result in the US. This was backed up recently in July with group sales exceeding AUD 13 million for the month, a new record. This is a good indicator of the momentum in the business as we progress into the new financial year. We experienced continued growth in the US, achieving sales of AUD 102 million, up 15.6% for the year. There were significant FX headwinds in FY27 due to the stronger Australian dollar against the US dollar.
Jan Gielen: Great. Thanks, Bruce. Next slide, please. Thanks again, everyone, for joining the webcast today. I will start with our commercial sales performance. NovoSorb product sales were AUD 138 million for the year, up 16.7% on last year, and in constant currency up 21.3%, as Bruce just mentioned. In dollar terms, sales increased by AUD 19.7 million. The year ended with a strong June result, including a record sales result in the US. This was backed up recently in July with group sales exceeding AUD 13 million for the month, a new record. This is a good indicator of the momentum in the business as we progress into the new financial year. We experienced continued growth in the US, achieving sales of AUD 102 million, up 15.6% for the year. There were significant FX headwinds in FY27 due to the stronger Australian dollar against the US dollar.
Speaker #1: In dollar terms, sales increased by $19.7 million. The year ended with a strong June result, including a record sales result in the US. This was backed up recently in July, with group sales exceeding $13 million for the month and a new record.
Speaker #1: This is a good indicator of the momentum in the business as we progress into the new financial year. We experienced continued growth in the US, achieving sales of $102 million, up 15.6% for the year. There were significant FX headwinds in FY27 due to the stronger Australian dollar against the US dollar. Taking this into account, US sales in constant currency were actually up 21.1%.
Jan Gielen: Taking this into account, US sales and constant currency were actually up 21.1%. The growth was driven by strong account acquisition, adding 200 new hospital accounts during the year, and continued penetration of existing accounts, with total accounts now over 880 in the US. In regards to the rest of the world result, we recorded sales of AUD 36 million, up 20% on last year, and up 21.9% in constant currency. This includes some exceptional results in a number of markets with growth rates well above 30%, which I will highlight a bit later in the presentation. NovoSorb MTX sales for the group were AUD 12.6 million, up 89.6%, recording sales not just in the US, but also Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India, and Hong Kong. Next slide, please. Moving on to additional highlights for the US. As just mentioned, the US achieved 21.1% sales growth in constant currency for the year.
Jan Gielen: Taking this into account, US sales and constant currency were actually up 21.1%. The growth was driven by strong account acquisition, adding 200 new hospital accounts during the year, and continued penetration of existing accounts, with total accounts now over 880 in the US. In regards to the rest of the world result, we recorded sales of AUD 36 million, up 20% on last year, and up 21.9% in constant currency. This includes some exceptional results in a number of markets with growth rates well above 30%, which I will highlight a bit later in the presentation. NovoSorb MTX sales for the group were AUD 12.6 million, up 89.6%, recording sales not just in the US, but also Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India, and Hong Kong. Next slide, please. Moving on to additional highlights for the US.
Speaker #1: The growth was driven by strong account acquisition, adding 200 new hospital accounts during the year, and continued penetration of existing accounts, with total accounts now over 880 in the US.
Speaker #1: In regards to the Rest of the World result, we recorded sales of $36 million, up 20% on last year and up 21.9% in constant currency.
Speaker #1: This includes some exceptional results in a number of markets, with growth rates well above 30%, which I'll highlight a bit later in the presentation.
Speaker #1: Novus, or MTX, sales for the group were $12.6 million, up 89.6%, recording sales not just in the US but also in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India, and Hong Kong.
Speaker #1: Next slide, please. Moving on to additional highlights for the US. As just mentioned, the US achieved 21.1% sales growth in constant currency for the year. Novus or MTX sales in the US were $12.2 million, up 92.7% in constant currency.
Jan Gielen: As just mentioned, the US achieved 21.1% sales growth in constant currency for the year.
Jan Gielen: NovoSorb MTX sales in the US were AUD 12.12 million, up 92.7% in constant currency. Surgeon adoption of NovoSorb MTX continues to grow and will accelerate across the customer base as more clinical evidence is generated and shared. NovoSorb MTX has now been used in over 330 accounts in the US, doubling from the same time last year. We currently have 132 staff in the US, including 106 in the sales team. The average sales per sales team member continues to increase as we penetrate existing hospitals across a wider range of indications, also assisted by having additional product available, being NovoSorb MTX. As a result, overall productivity of the US team has increased, increasing operating leverage and profitability. Furthermore, the US business continues to generate strong cash flows with debtor days well within our expectations. Next slide, please. Moving on to the rest of world results.
Jan Gielen: NovoSorb MTX sales in the US were AUD 12.12 million, up 92.7% in constant currency. Surgeon adoption of NovoSorb MTX continues to grow and will accelerate across the customer base as more clinical evidence is generated and shared. NovoSorb MTX has now been used in over 330 accounts in the US, doubling from the same time last year. We currently have 132 staff in the US, including 106 in the sales team. The average sales per sales team member continues to increase as we penetrate existing hospitals across a wider range of indications, also assisted by having additional product available, being NovoSorb MTX. As a result, overall productivity of the US team has increased, increasing operating leverage and profitability. Furthermore, the US business continues to generate strong cash flows with debtor days well within our expectations. Next slide, please. Moving on to the rest of world results.
Speaker #1: The surge in adoption of Novus or MTX continues to grow and will accelerate across the customer base as more clinical evidence is generated and shared.
Speaker #1: Novus or MTX has now been used in over 330 accounts in the US, doubling from the same time last year. We currently have 132 staff in the US, including 106 in the sales team. The average sales per sales team member continues to increase as we penetrate existing hospitals across a wider range of indications, also assisted by having additional product available, being Novus or MTX.
Speaker #1: As a result, the overall productivity of the US team has increased, improving operating leverage and profitability. Furthermore, the US business continues to generate strong cash flows, with better days well within our expectations.
Speaker #1: Next slide, please. So, moving on to the Rest of World results. As mentioned, sales were up 21.9% on the prior year in constant currency.
Jan Gielen: As mentioned, sales were up 21.9% on the prior year in constant currency. We achieved some exceptional results, both in relatively new and well-established markets. In particular, Australia, our home market we entered several years ago, grew by 33.9%, which is an excellent result. Ireland grew by 38.3%, is one of our best performing markets on a per capita basis. The results in long-standing markets such as Ireland and Australia as an example, is a good indicator of the adoption by surgeons using NovoSorb BTM, not just in large burns, but across a range of indications. Sales in Hong Kong continued at a strong rate, recording 49.9% sales growth for the year. Turkey's strong growth has also continued up 79% for the year. India performed with a consistent growth rate, recording 52.8% sales growth for the year.
Jan Gielen: As mentioned, sales were up 21.9% on the prior year in constant currency. We achieved some exceptional results, both in relatively new and well-established markets. In particular, Australia, our home market we entered several years ago, grew by 33.9%, which is an excellent result. Ireland grew by 38.3%, is one of our best performing markets on a per capita basis. The results in long-standing markets such as Ireland and Australia as an example, is a good indicator of the adoption by surgeons using NovoSorb BTM, not just in large burns, but across a range of indications. Sales in Hong Kong continued at a strong rate, recording 49.9% sales growth for the year. Turkey's strong growth has also continued up 79% for the year. India performed with a consistent growth rate, recording 52.8% sales growth for the year.
Speaker #1: We achieved some exceptional results both in relatively new and well-established markets. In particular, Australia, our home market, which we entered several years ago, grew by 33.9%, which is an excellent result.
Speaker #1: Ireland grew by 38.3% and is one of our best-performing markets on a per capita basis. The results in long-standing markets such as Ireland and Australia, as an example, are a good indicator of the adoption by surgeons using Novus or BTM not just in large burns but across a range of indications.
Speaker #1: Sales in Hong Kong continued at a strong rate, recording 49.9% sales growth for the year. Turkey's strong growth also continued, up 79% for the year.
Speaker #1: India performed with a consistent growth rate, recording 52.8% sales growth for the year. Furthermore, following first sales in June last year in Malaysia, we have received monthly orders, each order increasing in value, and will be investing in that market by hiring two sales reps this quarter.
Jan Gielen: Furthermore, following first sales in June last year in Malaysia, we have received monthly orders, each order increasing in value, and we will be investing in that market by hiring two sales reps this quarter. We have experienced similar growth in the Czech Republic, following first sales late last fiscal year. Rest of the world share of global sales now accounts for 26% of global sales, and we see significant opportunities for growth, particularly in Europe and the Middle East in the short term. Next slide, please. Moving on to the P&L. I want to start off by highlighting the underlying EBITDA performance for the year. After adjusting EBITDA for significant items, being the impact of the R&D lab fire and unrealized Forex impact on translation of the balance sheet due to the strong Australian dollar, adjusted EBITDA was AUD 13.4 million, up 50% on the prior year.
Jan Gielen: Furthermore, following first sales in June last year in Malaysia, we have received monthly orders, each order increasing in value, and we will be investing in that market by hiring two sales reps this quarter. We have experienced similar growth in the Czech Republic, following first sales late last fiscal year. Rest of the world share of global sales now accounts for 26% of global sales, and we see significant opportunities for growth, particularly in Europe and the Middle East in the short term. Next slide, please. Moving on to the P&L. I want to start off by highlighting the underlying EBITDA performance for the year. After adjusting EBITDA for significant items, being the impact of the R&D lab fire and unrealized Forex impact on translation of the balance sheet due to the strong Australian dollar, adjusted EBITDA was AUD 13.4 million, up 50% on the prior year.
Speaker #1: We have experienced similar growth in the Czech Republic following first sales late last fiscal year. West Rest of World share of global sales now accounts for 26% of global sales, and we see significant opportunities for growth, particularly in Europe and the Middle East in the short term.
Speaker #1: Next slide, please. Moving on to the P&L, I want to start off by highlighting the underlying EBITDA performance for the year. After adjusting EBITDA for significant items—being the impact of the R&D lab fire and unrealized Forex impact on translation of the balance sheet due to the strong Australian dollar—adjusted EBITDA was $13.4 million, up 50% on the prior year.
Speaker #1: There are a number of one-off items impacting the reported net profit after tax result, which I'll now explain. Barter revenue is down on the prior year, as expected.
Jan Gielen: There are a number of one-off items impacting the reported net profit after tax result, which I will now explain. BARDA revenue is down on the prior year as expected. The pivotal burns trial is complete, and we are finalizing the submission for pre-market approval to the FDA. In connection with the BARDA pivotal trial completing, the trial costs have reduced, which explains the lower R&D expense for the period. On to gross margin. You may recall in the H1 of the year, with inventory at comfortable levels after building them up during FY25, we took the opportunity to bring forward attending to various tasks in our manufacturing facilities in preparation for the pre-market approval submission and FDA audit that will follow in due course. To do so, we temporarily reduced manufacturing output in the H1, which in turn reduces the production recovery to cover manufacturing overhead costs.
Jan Gielen: There are a number of one-off items impacting the reported net profit after tax result, which I will now explain. BARDA revenue is down on the prior year as expected. The pivotal burns trial is complete, and we are finalizing the submission for pre-market approval to the FDA. In connection with the BARDA pivotal trial completing, the trial costs have reduced, which explains the lower R&D expense for the period. On to gross margin. You may recall in the H1 of the year, with inventory at comfortable levels after building them up during FY25, we took the opportunity to bring forward attending to various tasks in our manufacturing facilities in preparation for the pre-market approval submission and FDA audit that will follow in due course. To do so, we temporarily reduced manufacturing output in the H1, which in turn reduces the production recovery to cover manufacturing overhead costs.
Speaker #1: The pivotal burn study is complete, and we are finalizing the submission of pre-market approval to the FDA. In connection with the BARDA pivotal trial completing, the trial costs have reduced, which now explains the lower R&D expense for the period.
Speaker #1: Onto gross margin. You may recall in the first half of the year, with inventory at comfortable levels after building them up during FY25, we took the opportunity to bring forward attending to various tasks in our manufacturing facilities in preparation for the pre-market approval submission and FDA audit that will follow in due course.
Speaker #1: To do so, we temporarily reduced manufacturing output in the first half, which in turn reduced the production recovery to cover manufacturing overhead costs. Despite increasing manufacturing output in the second half to 3.8 times the output of the first half, we recorded a modest improvement in gross margin in the second half of 89.2%, compared to 88.7% in the first half.
Jan Gielen: Despite increasing manufacturing output in the H2 to 3.8 times the output of the H1, we recorded a modest improvement in gross margin in the H2 of 89.2% compared to 88.7% in the H1. The margin for the full year was 89%. At year-end, a number of adjustments are recorded to account for the underutilization of the facilities that occurred during the H1. As such, the underlying gross margin in the H2 was much higher than 90%. Other income includes a AUD 6 million insurance claim related to the R&D lab fire. This offsets the AUD 4.7 million asset write-off recorded further below in the P&L. Employee-related costs were up 5.7% or 4.3% excluding share-based payments, with employee headcount remaining steady at circa 300 employees at 30 June.
Jan Gielen: Despite increasing manufacturing output in the H2 to 3.8 times the output of the H1, we recorded a modest improvement in gross margin in the H2 of 89.2% compared to 88.7% in the H1. The margin for the full year was 89%. At year-end, a number of adjustments are recorded to account for the underutilization of the facilities that occurred during the H1. As such, the underlying gross margin in the H2 was much higher than 90%. Other income includes a AUD 6 million insurance claim related to the R&D lab fire. This offsets the AUD 4.7 million asset write-off recorded further below in the P&L. Employee-related costs were up 5.7% or 4.3% excluding share-based payments, with employee headcount remaining steady at circa 300 employees at 30 June.
Speaker #1: The margin for the full year was 89%. At year end, a number of adjustments were recorded to account for the underutilization of the facilities that occurred during the first half. As such, the underlying gross margin in the second half was much higher than 90%.
Speaker #1: Other income includes a $6 million insurance claim related to the R&D lab fire. This offsets the $4.7 million asset write-off recorded further below in the P&L.
Speaker #1: Employee-related costs were up 5.7%, or 4.3% excluding share-based payments, with employee headcount remaining steady at circa 300 employees at 30 June. Underlying corporate admin and overhead expenses were actually down on the prior year by 1% after excluding unrealized Forex movement on translation of the balance sheet.
Jan Gielen: Underlying corporate admin and overhead expenses were actually down on the prior year by 1% after excluding unrealized Forex movement on translation of the balance sheet. This unrealized Forex movement comes about through the Australian dollar appreciating against the US dollar during the period, resulting in an unrealized Forex loss of AUD 2.7 million for the year, compared to AUD 2.2 million unrealized gain for the year. This particular expense gets recorded in the corporate admin overhead line in the statutory P&L. It is important to back it out and look at the underlying result there. In terms of operating leverage, it is increasing, and the bottom line is becoming more sensitive to sales growth, evident by the 50% increase to EBITDA after adjusting for significant items. Next slide, please. Moving on to cash flow and the balance sheet.
Jan Gielen: Underlying corporate admin and overhead expenses were actually down on the prior year by 1% after excluding unrealized Forex movement on translation of the balance sheet. This unrealized Forex movement comes about through the Australian dollar appreciating against the US dollar during the period, resulting in an unrealized Forex loss of AUD 2.7 million for the year, compared to AUD 2.2 million unrealized gain for the year. This particular expense gets recorded in the corporate admin overhead line in the statutory P&L. It is important to back it out and look at the underlying result there. In terms of operating leverage, it is increasing, and the bottom line is becoming more sensitive to sales growth, evident by the 50% increase to EBITDA after adjusting for significant items. Next slide, please. Moving on to cash flow and the balance sheet.
Speaker #1: This unrealized forex movement comes about due to the Australian dollar appreciating against the US dollar during the period, resulting in an unrealized forex loss of $2.7 million for the year, compared to a $2.2 million unrealized gain for the prior year. And this particular expense gets recorded in the corporate admin and overhead line in the statutory P&L.
Speaker #1: It's so important to step back and look at the underlying results here. In terms of operating leverage, it is increasing and the bottom line is becoming more sensitive to sales growth, as evidenced by the 50% increase in EBITDA after adjusting for significant items.
Speaker #1: Next slide, please. Moving on to cash flow on the balance sheet, we ended the period with $35.4 million cash on hand, an increase of $1.9 million on last year's balance of $33.5 million.
Jan Gielen: We ended the period with AUD 35.4 million cash on hand, an increase of AUD 1.9 million on last year's balance of AUD 33.5 million. Cash flow from operations was AUD 23.1 million, improved significantly compared to the prior year result of AUD 3.1 million, with strong debt at data collections in all markets. We completed construction of the new manufacturing facility in Port Melbourne with CapEx payments of AUD 12.4 million for the period. We also commenced reconstruction of the R&D lab and offices with progress payments of AUD 1.4 million, which are fully covered by insurance. AUD 1.5 million CapEx remains outstanding for machinery for the new manufacturing facility, and this will be paid in the H1.
Jan Gielen: We ended the period with AUD 35.4 million cash on hand, an increase of AUD 1.9 million on last year's balance of AUD 33.5 million. Cash flow from operations was AUD 23.1 million, improved significantly compared to the prior year result of AUD 3.1 million, with strong debt at data collections in all markets. We completed construction of the new manufacturing facility in Port Melbourne with CapEx payments of AUD 12.4 million for the period. We also commenced reconstruction of the R&D lab and offices with progress payments of AUD 1.4 million, which are fully covered by insurance. AUD 1.5 million CapEx remains outstanding for machinery for the new manufacturing facility, and this will be paid in the H1.
Speaker #1: Cash flow from operations is $23.1 million and improved significantly compared to the prior year result of $3.1 million, with strong debt collections in all markets.
Speaker #1: We completed construction of the new manufacturing facility in Port Melbourne, with capex payments of $12.4 million for the period. We also commenced reconstruction of the R&D lab and offices, with progress payments of $1.4 million, which are fully covered by insurance.
Speaker #1: $1.5 million in capex remains outstanding for machinery for the new manufacturing facility, and this will be paid in the first half. Even after funding $13.8 million in capex, the business achieved free cash flow of $9.4 million, which is an important milestone achievement for the business.
Jan Gielen: Even after funding AUD 13.8 million in CapEx, the business achieved free cash flow of AUD 9.4 million, which is an important milestone achievement for the business. Finally, we ended the year with a strong balance sheet, free cash flow, which will enable us to focus on further investment, driving revenue growth, and importantly, product innovation. Thank you. I will now hand back to Bruce.
Jan Gielen: Even after funding AUD 13.8 million in CapEx, the business achieved free cash flow of AUD 9.4 million, which is an important milestone achievement for the business. Finally, we ended the year with a strong balance sheet, free cash flow, which will enable us to focus on further investment, driving revenue growth, and importantly, product innovation. Thank you. I will now hand back to Bruce.
Speaker #1: Finally, we ended the year with a strong balance sheet and free cash flow, which will enable us to focus on further investment, driving revenue growth, and, importantly, product innovation.
Speaker #1: Thank you. I'll now hand back to Bruce.
Speaker #2: Thanks, John. And thank you all for joining us today and for your continued support of PolyNovo. As you've heard, we are entering the first half with strong momentum, a clear strategy, and a deep commitment to execution.
Bruce Peatey: Thanks, Jan, and thank you all for joining us today and for your continued support of PolyNovo. As you have heard, we are entering the H1 with strong momentum, a clear strategy, and a deep commitment to execution. Our focus remains on delivering meaningful clinical impact, scaling globally, and unlocking the full value of the NovoSorb platform. I am incredibly proud of what the team has achieved and confident in the opportunities ahead. We look forward to updating you on our progress and appreciate your engagement today. I will now hand over to the operator to move to Q&A.
Bruce Peatey: Thanks, Jan, and thank you all for joining us today and for your continued support of PolyNovo. As you have heard, we are entering the H1 with strong momentum, a clear strategy, and a deep commitment to execution. Our focus remains on delivering meaningful clinical impact, scaling globally, and unlocking the full value of the NovoSorb platform. I am incredibly proud of what the team has achieved and confident in the opportunities ahead. We look forward to updating you on our progress and appreciate your engagement today. I will now hand over to the operator to move to Q&A.
Speaker #2: Our focus remains on delivering meaningful clinical impact, scaling globally, and unlocking the full value of the NovaSol platform. I'm incredibly proud of what the team has achieved and confident in the opportunities ahead.
Speaker #2: We look forward to updating you on our progress and appreciate your engagement today. So, I'll now hand over to the operator to move to Q&A.
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Speaker #4: Good morning, Bruce. Good morning, John. Can I start with this—slide 11—in terms of your 2027 opportunities? In terms of the PMA for BTM, can you tell us whether or not the submission timetable for the end of this calendar year still holds, or if so, what needs to happen between now and submission? And then, following submission, what are your expectations on the FDA review timeline?
Leanne Harrison: Good morning, Bruce. Good morning, Jan. Can I start with your slide 11 in terms of your 2027 opportunities? In terms of the PMA for BTM, can you tell us whether or not the submission timetable for the end of this calendar year still holds? Also, what needs to happen between now and submission? Then following submission, what are your expectations on the FDA review timeline?
Lyanne Harrison: Good morning, Bruce. Good morning, Jan. Can I start with your slide 11 in terms of your 2027 opportunities? In terms of the PMA for BTM, can you tell us whether or not the submission timetable for the end of this calendar year still holds? Also, what needs to happen between now and submission? Then following submission, what are your expectations on the FDA review timeline?
Speaker #2: Hi, Leanne. Thanks for the question. Yes. So as far as timeline is concerned as we communicated earlier in the year so we made the deliberate decision to take an opportunity to look at the scope of the program you know with the updated guidelines from the FDA we took the decision to make our to bring some of those activities that were post going to be post submission to pre-submission in the intent to make a more complete and compelling submission all in one go also it allowed us to line up the clinical report outcomes at the 18 month period the follow-ups with the patients so all tracking well for their you know after the submission I've always said you know our goal is a PMA approval more than racing to a PMA submission and we feel like we're in good stead for that as we've gone through this review timeline.
Bruce Peatey: Hi, Leanne. Thanks for the question. Yes. As far as timeline is concerned, as we communicated earlier in the year, we made the deliberate decision to take an opportunity to look at the scope of the program, with the updated guidelines from the FDA. We took the decision to bring some of those activities that were going to be post-submission to pre-submission in the intent to make a more complete and compelling submission all in one go. Also, it allowed us to line up the clinical report outcomes at the 18-month period, the follow-ups with the patients. So all tracking well for there. After the submission, I have always said our goal is a PMA approval, more than racing to a PMA submission, and we feel like we are in good stead for that as we have gone through this review timeline.
Bruce Peatey: Hi, Leanne. Thanks for the question. Yes. As far as timeline is concerned, as we communicated earlier in the year, we made the deliberate decision to take an opportunity to look at the scope of the program, with the updated guidelines from the FDA. We took the decision to bring some of those activities that were going to be post-submission to pre-submission in the intent to make a more complete and compelling submission all in one go. Also, it allowed us to line up the clinical report outcomes at the 18-month period, the follow-ups with the patients. So all tracking well for there. After the submission, I have always said our goal is a PMA approval, more than racing to a PMA submission, and we feel like we are in good stead for that as we have gone through this review timeline.
Speaker #2: So once that submission's in, you know, then it's more appropriate to talk about the outcomes for the clinical study, and then we're more in the hands of the FDA as they go through their process over several months, including an inspection of the facility, which we expect.
Bruce Peatey: Once that submission is in, then it is more appropriate to talk about the outcomes for the clinical study, and then we are more in the hands of the FDA as they go through their process over several months, including an inspection of the facility we expect.
Bruce Peatey: Once that submission is in, then it is more appropriate to talk about the outcomes for the clinical study, and then we are more in the hands of the FDA as they go through their process over several months, including an inspection of the facility we expect.
Speaker #4: Okay, so effectively, in terms of approval for the FDA, the expectation is perhaps, you know, middle of next calendar year. Is that right?
Leanne Harrison: Okay. So effectively, in terms of approval for the FDA, the expectation is perhaps, middle of next calendar year. Is that right?
Lyanne Harrison: Okay. So effectively, in terms of approval for the FDA, the expectation is perhaps, middle of next calendar year. Is that right?
Speaker #2: So it's definitely, it's definitely months and, you know, again, you know, we go to the FDA timeline, so we're prepared to work with them. From experience and our understanding, it's around that 12-month mark from submission.
Bruce Peatey: It is definitely months. Again, we go to the FDA timelines. We are prepared to work with them. From experience and our understanding, it is around that 12-month mark from submission.
Bruce Peatey: It is definitely months. Again, we go to the FDA timelines. We are prepared to work with them. From experience and our understanding, it is around that 12-month mark from submission.
Speaker #4: Okay. But that hasn't been sped up because of your additional submission activity?
Leanne Harrison: Okay. But that is not sped up because of your additional submission activity?
Lyanne Harrison: Okay. But that is not sped up because of your additional submission activity?
Speaker #2: It's difficult for us to say, but what I can say is that we'll have a very complete submission. The work is being done prior to the submission, rather than originally planning to do some work after submission.
Bruce Peatey: It is difficult for us to say, but what I can say is that what we will have is a very complete submission, the work being done prior to the submission rather than originally planned to do some work after submission. For me, I am more confident in how we would proceed in this sense.
Bruce Peatey: It is difficult for us to say, but what I can say is that what we will have is a very complete submission, the work being done prior to the submission rather than originally planned to do some work after submission. For me, I am more confident in how we would proceed in this sense.
Speaker #2: For me, I'm more confident in how we would proceed in this sense.
Speaker #4: Okay, thank you. And then, if I could move on to this part—can you give us an update on where you are up to in terms of that outpatient opportunity, particularly on perhaps trying to secure reimbursement, and where SynthPath is up to in terms of the launch?
Leanne Harrison: Okay, thank you. If I could move on to SynPath, can you give us an update on where you are up to in terms of that outpatient opportunity, particularly on perhaps trying to secure reimbursement, and where SynPath is up to in terms of the launch?
Lyanne Harrison: Okay, thank you. If I could move on to SynPath, can you give us an update on where you are up to in terms of that outpatient opportunity, particularly on perhaps trying to secure reimbursement, and where SynPath is up to in terms of the launch?
Speaker #2: Yes. So we're in preparations for commercial launch, and as we move forward, as far as reimbursement is concerned, SynthPath has Higgsfix code already, so we don't have any concerns there. But, as I think most people know who are following this space, it's been a market in a fair bit of turbulence over the start of the year, getting used to the new policies through CMS.
Bruce Peatey: Yes, so we are in preparation for commercial launch as we move forward. As far as reimbursement is concerned, SynPath has a HCPCS code already, so we do not have any concerns there. As I think most people know following this space, it has been a market in a fair bit of turbulence over the start of the year, getting used to the new policies through CMS. We have added our market access capabilities to the organization to help us navigate through this very different space than the inpatient market that we currently are in every day. Not only is it about the product or the reimbursement, it is also about provider confidence in that they can get paid through this new system. With all of the different movements, that turbulence has something that we have kept an eye on as we prepare for launch into the market.
Bruce Peatey: Yes, so we are in preparation for commercial launch as we move forward. As far as reimbursement is concerned, SynPath has a HCPCS code already, so we do not have any concerns there. As I think most people know following this space, it has been a market in a fair bit of turbulence over the start of the year, getting used to the new policies through CMS. We have added our market access capabilities to the organization to help us navigate through this very different space than the inpatient market that we currently are in every day. Not only is it about the product or the reimbursement, it is also about provider confidence in that they can get paid through this new system. With all of the different movements, that turbulence has something that we have kept an eye on as we prepare for launch into the market.
Speaker #2: So we have added our market access capabilities to the organization to help us navigate through this very different space than the inpatient market that we currently are in every day.
Speaker #2: So not only is it about the product or the reimbursement, it's also about provider confidence—that they can get paid, you know, through this new system.
Speaker #2: And with all of the different movements, you know, that turbulence is something that we've kept an eye on as we prepare for the launch into the market.
Speaker #2: So, commercial readiness is underway. We're ready for our commercial launch. You know, it's progressing well, I would say.
Bruce Peatey: Commercial readiness is underway. We are ready for our commercial launch. It is progressing well, I would say.
Bruce Peatey: Commercial readiness is underway. We are ready for our commercial launch. It is progressing well, I would say.
Speaker #4: Okay. And so, what are your views then in terms of the ability to sort of penetrate that market, obviously given the challenges the market currently has?
Leanne Harrison: Okay. What is your view then in terms of the ability to penetrate that market, obviously, given the challenges the market currently has?
Lyanne Harrison: Okay. What is your view then in terms of the ability to penetrate that market, obviously, given the challenges the market currently has?
Speaker #2: So, very deliberate in how we're going to approach the market. You know, we make sure that we have the right go-to-market strategy, which includes not just the sales team, but also which indications make the most clinical sense for us to be involved in—and also have a significant commercial opportunity.
Bruce Peatey: So, very deliberate in how we are going to approach the market. We made sure that we have the right go-to-market strategy, which includes not just the sales team, but also what indications make the most clinical sense for us to be involved in, and also has a significant commercial opportunity. So, you are talking about procedures that are more single-episode procedures rather than the repeat episodes that you might see in some of those chronic wounds. We see a lot of opportunity there, and it actually dovetails quite nicely with our current momentum in the inpatient space. Similar contact points, similar surgeons involved, just a different care setting.
Bruce Peatey: So, very deliberate in how we are going to approach the market. We made sure that we have the right go-to-market strategy, which includes not just the sales team, but also what indications make the most clinical sense for us to be involved in, and also has a significant commercial opportunity. So, you are talking about procedures that are more single-episode procedures rather than the repeat episodes that you might see in some of those chronic wounds. We see a lot of opportunity there, and it actually dovetails quite nicely with our current momentum in the inpatient space. Similar contact points, similar surgeons involved, just a different care setting.
Speaker #2: So you’re talking about procedures that are more single-episode procedures, rather than the repeat episodes that you might see in some of those chronic wounds.
Speaker #2: We see a lot of opportunity there, and it actually dovetails quite nicely with our current momentum in the inpatient space. Similar contact points, similar surgeons involved, just a different care setting.
Speaker #4: Thank you very much. I'll leave it there.
Leanne Harrison: Thank you very much. I will leave it there.
Lyanne Harrison: Thank you very much. I will leave it there.
Speaker #3: Thank you. Your next question comes from Shane Story from Countercoordinity. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Shane Storey from Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Shane Storey from Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Good morning, everyone. I think I might stay on the SynthPath tack just for a couple more minutes, Bruce—just thinking about the settings there.
Shane Storey: Good morning, everyone. I think I might stay on the SynPath tack just a couple of more minutes, Bruce.
Shane Storey: Good morning, everyone. I think I might stay on the SynPath tack just a couple of more minutes, Bruce.
Bruce Peatey: Sure.
Bruce Peatey: Sure.
Shane Storey: Just thinking about the settings there, would I be right in anticipating that you would probably look to the outpatient setting, more hospital outpatient department, rather than going into, say, the broader private physician market at this point?
Shane Storey: Just thinking about the settings there, would I be right in anticipating that you would probably look to the outpatient setting, more hospital outpatient department, rather than going into, say, the broader private physician market at this point?
Speaker #5: Would I be right in anticipating that you'd probably look to the outpatient setting, more the hospital outpatient department, rather than going into, say, the broader private physician market at this point?
Speaker #2: Yeah, you got it, Shane. Thanks for the question. You know, it's a logical first step for us. Like I say, there's that relationship that we already have with the surgeons.
Bruce Peatey: Yeah, you got it, Shane. Thanks for the question. It is a logical first step for us. Like I say, there is that relationship that we already have with the surgeons in those hospitals. We have over 100 reps now in more and more hospitals every day. I think over 800 was the last count, and increasing. So that makes a logical first step. The indications, if you looked at some of the oncology repair type or reconstruction type procedures, they can be further outside of the hospital, and we are looking at opportunities to address those markets over time as well. But yeah, you are right. Logical first step in hospital outpatients.
Bruce Peatey: Yeah, you got it, Shane. Thanks for the question. It is a logical first step for us. Like I say, there is that relationship that we already have with the surgeons in those hospitals. We have over 100 reps now in more and more hospitals every day. I think over 800 was the last count, and increasing. So that makes a logical first step. The indications, if you looked at some of the oncology repair type or reconstruction type procedures, they can be further outside of the hospital, and we are looking at opportunities to address those markets over time as well. But yeah, you are right. Logical first step in hospital outpatients.
Speaker #2: In those hospitals, you know, we've got over 100 reps now, in more and more hospitals every day. I think over 800 was the last count.
Speaker #2: And in increasing, so that makes a logical first step. You know, the indications—if you look at some of the oncology repair-type or reconstruction-type procedures—they can be further outside of the hospital, and, you know, we are looking at opportunities to address those markets over time as well.
Speaker #2: But you're right. Logical first step—and the hospital outpatients.
Speaker #5: And when you think about just where the evidence sort of stands right now, just your thoughts, perhaps, on what additional evidence development you think might be appropriate—and I know that's a bit of an open question for everyone in the category—but just interested in your thoughts on it.
Shane Storey: When you think about just where the evidence sort of stands right now, just your thoughts perhaps on what additional evidence development you think might be appropriate. I know that is a bit of an open question to everyone in the category, but just interested in your thoughts on it.
Shane Storey: When you think about just where the evidence sort of stands right now, just your thoughts perhaps on what additional evidence development you think might be appropriate. I know that is a bit of an open question to everyone in the category, but just interested in your thoughts on it.
Speaker #2: Yes, it is. It's true. You know, I mean, the evidence requirements also need to be established as we go forward. We are gaining more and more evidence across multiple indications.
Bruce Peatey: Yes, it is. It is true. The evidence requirements also need to be established as we go forward. We are gaining more and more evidence across multiple indications, as I mentioned in the presentation. So whether that is in the chronic wound space as well as the more acute setting, we are seeing that evidence that is applicable to this space. But we are also mindful if there needs to be more, let us say, specific evidence generated, that we are open for that. What I can say is that the strategy to move into the procedures that are more applicable to our product's capabilities and advantages, I think we are well-placed with the evidence that we have.
Bruce Peatey: Yes, it is. It is true. The evidence requirements also need to be established as we go forward. We are gaining more and more evidence across multiple indications, as I mentioned in the presentation. So whether that is in the chronic wound space as well as the more acute setting, we are seeing that evidence that is applicable to this space. But we are also mindful if there needs to be more, let us say, specific evidence generated, that we are open for that. What I can say is that the strategy to move into the procedures that are more applicable to our product's capabilities and advantages, I think we are well-placed with the evidence that we have.
Speaker #2: You know, as I mentioned in the presentation, and so whether that's in the chronic wound space as well as the more acute setting, we're seeing that evidence that is applicable to this space.
Speaker #2: But we're also mindful that if there needs to be more, I'd say, specific evidence generated, we're open to that. What I can say is, you know, the strategy is to move into the procedures that are more applicable to our products' capabilities and advantages. I think we're well placed with the evidence that we have.
Speaker #5: Thanks, Bruce. I've got one final question just for Jan. Jan, thanks for talking us through the various moves in gross margin over the halves.
Shane Storey: Thanks, Bruce. I have one final question just for Jan. Jan, thanks for tracking us, talking us through the various moves in gross margin over the halves.
Shane Storey: Thanks, Bruce. I have one final question just for Jan. Jan, thanks for tracking us, talking us through the various moves in gross margin over the halves.
Jan Gielen: Sure.
Jan Gielen: Sure.
Speaker #5: I suppose my question is really just around any of that sort of mechanics that might reverse in FY27. I suppose, with new facilities coming online, just how you expect that overhead to affect the margin over the next year or two.
Shane Storey: I suppose my question is really just around any of that sort of mechanics might reverse in FY27, I suppose just with new facilities coming online, just how you expect that overhead to affect the margin over the next year or two.
Shane Storey: I suppose my question is really just around any of that sort of mechanics might reverse in FY27, I suppose just with new facilities coming online, just how you expect that overhead to affect the margin over the next year or two.
Speaker #2: Yeah, sure. The new facility isn't available for use at the moment, so it's not hitting margin, and we're not going to be transitioning to the new facility until around March next year.
Jan Gielen: Well, sure. The new facility is not available for use at the moment, so it is not hitting margin. We are not going to be transitioning to the new facility until around March next year, and we will likely start with MTX moving across. We are in the middle of validating machines and so forth. Despite the facility being built, we are not going to have that impact until sort of the Q4. Before I talk about that, I will touch on how margin is progressing, and we are sort of back to the normal levels now out of our existing facilities. July gross margin was just under 95%, and that is kind of what we are used to. That comes about by strong sales exceeding budget, actually, in July.
Jan Gielen: Well, sure. The new facility is not available for use at the moment, so it is not hitting margin. We are not going to be transitioning to the new facility until around March next year, and we will likely start with MTX moving across. We are in the middle of validating machines and so forth. Despite the facility being built, we are not going to have that impact until sort of the Q4. Before I talk about that, I will touch on how margin is progressing, and we are sort of back to the normal levels now out of our existing facilities. July gross margin was just under 95%, and that is kind of what we are used to. That comes about by strong sales exceeding budget, actually, in July.
Speaker #2: And we'll likely start with NTX moving across. We're in the middle of validating machines and so forth. So despite the facility being built, we're not going to have that impact until sort of the fourth quarter.
Speaker #2: Before I talk about that, you know, I'll touch on how margin is progressing, and we're sort of back to the normal levels now out of our existing facilities.
Speaker #2: So, in July, you know, gross margin was just under 95%, and that's kind of what we're used to. And that comes about by, you know, strong sales exceeding budget, actually, in July.
Speaker #2: We had $13 million in sales for the group, which was a record, but we also hit budget, or target, for our production output in July.
Jan Gielen: We had AUD 13 million in sales for the group, which was a record, but we also hit budget or target for our production output in July. When that happens, you get a 95% gross margin. With all that continuing as planned, and with our targets between now and, say, December, our H1, our gross margins will be in that 90% to 95% range. When the new facility comes on, that will have a 1% to 1.5% impact on gross margin once it is up and running. Our sales will be a lot higher than what they are now too, so you have got to take that into account. All in all, we are in a good spot in terms of being able to use that new facility and looking forward to sort of firing it up in the next calendar year.
Jan Gielen: We had AUD 13 million in sales for the group, which was a record, but we also hit budget or target for our production output in July. When that happens, you get a 95% gross margin. With all that continuing as planned, and with our targets between now and, say, December, our H1, our gross margins will be in that 90% to 95% range. When the new facility comes on, that will have a 1% to 1.5% impact on gross margin once it is up and running. Our sales will be a lot higher than what they are now too, so you have got to take that into account. All in all, we are in a good spot in terms of being able to use that new facility and looking forward to sort of firing it up in the next calendar year.
Speaker #2: So when that happens, you know, you get a 95% gross margin. So, you know, with all that continuing as planned, and we hit our targets between now and, say, in December—our first half—you know, our gross margins will be in that 90% to 95% range.
Speaker #2: The new facility comes on, that will have, you know, a 1 to 1.5 percent impact on gross margin once it's up and running.
Speaker #2: But our sales will be a lot higher than what they are now too. So you're going to take that into account. But all in all that we're in a good spot in terms of being able to use that new facility and looking forward forward to sort of firing it up in the in the next calendar year.
Speaker #5: Thanks, Dan. That's all I had.
Shane Storey: Thanks, Ben. That is all I had.
Shane Storey: Thanks, Ben. That is all I had.
Speaker #2: Great. Thanks, Shane.
Jan Gielen: Great. Thanks, Shane.
Jan Gielen: Great. Thanks, Shane.
Speaker #3: Thank you. Once again, to ask a question via the phones, please press star one. Your next question comes from Scott Power from Morgans Financial.
Operator: Thank you. Once again, to ask a question via the phones, please press star one. Your next question comes from Scott Power from Morgans Financial. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Once again, to ask a question via the phones, please press star one. Your next question comes from Scott Power from Morgans Financial. Please go ahead.
Speaker #3: Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: Good morning, Bruce and Jan. Just a quick question about some of the other research that you're doing. You mentioned SynthPath and the launch of that, but I'm just wondering if you'd give a bit of commentary around hernia repair and some of the areas that you're looking at.
Scott Power: Good morning, Bruce and Jan.
Scott Power: Good morning, Bruce and Jan.
Jan Gielen: Yeah.
Scott Power: Just a quick question around some of the other research that you are doing. You mentioned SynPath and the launch of that, but I am just wondering if you would give a bit of commentary around hernia repair and some of the areas that you are looking at. I guess the second question to that is, with that R&D spend coming down in FY26, what is the sort of anticipated percentage of sales that we can look forward to going forward? Thanks.
Scott Power: Just a quick question around some of the other research that you are doing. You mentioned SynPath and the launch of that, but I am just wondering if you would give a bit of commentary around hernia repair and some of the areas that you are looking at. I guess the second question to that is, with that R&D spend coming down in FY26, what is the sort of anticipated percentage of sales that we can look forward to going forward? Thanks.
Speaker #4: And I guess the second question to that is, with that R&D spend coming down in FY26, what’s the anticipated percentage of sales that we can look for going forward?
Speaker #4: Thanks.
Speaker #2: Okay, thanks, Scott. And so just on the innovation pipeline in general, I think you'll recall at the half year I spoke about the need to get some velocity back into our innovation pipeline.
Bruce Peatey: Okay, thanks, Scott. Just on the innovation pipeline in general, I think you will recall at the H1, I spoke about the need of getting some velocity back into our innovation pipeline. One of the first steps to do that is to bring in a Chief Scientific Officer, which we did. Wonderful to have Marthe D'Ombrain in the team now. I can see really 2 months in, we can see that rigor and discipline to the pipeline, visibility, and approach is definitely improving. So we have that. In that mix, like you mentioned, we have a number of products, hernia and breast recon as we mentioned before. We have product in that pipeline as well, that are going through a very deliberate prioritization process.
Bruce Peatey: Okay, thanks, Scott. Just on the innovation pipeline in general, I think you will recall at the H1, I spoke about the need of getting some velocity back into our innovation pipeline. One of the first steps to do that is to bring in a Chief Scientific Officer, which we did. Wonderful to have Marthe D'Ombrain in the team now. I can see really two months in, we can see that rigor and discipline to the pipeline, visibility, and approach is definitely improving. So we have that. In that mix, like you mentioned, we have a number of products, hernia and breast recon as we mentioned before. We have product in that pipeline as well, that are going through a very deliberate prioritization process.
Speaker #2: And one of the first steps to do that is to bring in a Chief Scientific Officer, which we did. Wonderful to have Marta Dombrande in the team now, and I can see, really, two months in, we can see that rigor and discipline to the pipeline visibility and approach is definitely improving.
Speaker #2: So we have that in that mix, like you mentioned, we've got a number of products—hernia and breast recon have been mentioned before. We've got product in that pipeline as well, that are going through a very deliberate prioritization process.
Speaker #2: And so, you know, my focus is to make sure that we have that velocity come back into the innovation pipeline and to be able to make the tough decisions.
Bruce Peatey: My focus is to making sure that we have that velocity come back into the innovation pipeline and to be able to make the tough decisions. Unless there is a clinical differentiator, unless there is a very strong commercial need for the product as well, we will make those tough decisions whether they stay in the pipeline or not. I am looking forward to sharing that more as we have Marthe has a bit more time under her belt. I think I am very happy also with her approach to start bringing in some voice of customer with clinician groups, as well as she will be planning to establish more formal forums for scientific advisory over time as well, starting in this calendar year.
Bruce Peatey: My focus is to making sure that we have that velocity come back into the innovation pipeline and to be able to make the tough decisions. Unless there is a clinical differentiator, unless there is a very strong commercial need for the product as well, we will make those tough decisions whether they stay in the pipeline or not. I am looking forward to sharing that more as we have Marthe has a bit more time under her belt. I think I am very happy also with her approach to start bringing in some voice of customer with clinician groups, as well as she will be planning to establish more formal forums for scientific advisory over time as well, starting in this calendar year.
Speaker #2: You know that unless there's a clinical differentiator, unless there's a very strong commercial need for the product as well, we'll make those tough decisions about whether they stay in the pipeline or not.
Speaker #2: And I'm looking forward to sharing that more once Marta has a bit more time under her belt. I think I'm very happy also with her approach to start bringing in some voice of customer with clinician groups, as well as she'll be planning to establish more formal forums for scientific advisory over time as well, starting in this calendar year.
Speaker #2: So, I think, for the most part, it’s about making sure we have that disciplined process in place for the innovation pipeline to get that velocity back into our system.
Bruce Peatey: I think, for the most part, it is about making sure we have that discipline process in place for our innovation pipeline to get that velocity back into our system. As far as the spend, I will get Jan to speak about it. But I think as we shift away from the heavy lifting linked to PMA preparation, we will see more of that investment going into R&D to help fuel this increase in velocity.
Bruce Peatey: I think, for the most part, it is about making sure we have that discipline process in place for our innovation pipeline to get that velocity back into our system. As far as the spend, I will get Jan to speak about it. But I think as we shift away from the heavy lifting linked to PMA preparation, we will see more of that investment going into R&D to help fuel this increase in velocity.
Speaker #2: As far as the spend, I'll get Jan to speak about it, but I think as we shift away from the heavy lifting linked to PMA preparation, we will see more of the investment going into R&D to help fuel this increase in velocity.
Speaker #5: Absolutely. Just to add to that in terms of you know R&D spend as a percentage of sales be sort of around 5% of sales next year and and that excludes the you know the R&D costs which have historically have sat in that line in the statutory P&L.
Jan Gielen: Absolutely. Just to add to that, in terms of R&D spend as a percentage of sales, it will be around 5% of sales next year, and that excludes the R&D costs, which historically have sat in that line, in the statutory P&L. That has all come to an end now. To Bruce Peatey's point, though, Marthe D'Ombrain, the new CSO, has only been in the role for a couple of months, and she is getting a handle on things. We do want to invest more in R&D. We do want new products to come out and line extensions. Expect it to increase, but next year will be closer to the 5% of sales.
Jan Gielen: Absolutely. Just to add to that, in terms of R&D spend as a percentage of sales, it will be around 5% of sales next year, and that excludes the R&D costs, which historically have sat in that line, in the statutory P&L. That has all come to an end now. To Bruce's point, though, Marthe, the new CSO, has only been in the role for a couple of months, and she is getting a handle on things. We do want to invest more in R&D. We do want new products to come out and line extensions. Expect it to increase, but next year will be closer to the 5% of sales.
Speaker #5: That's all come to an end now. So but and to Bruce's point though you know Marta new CSO has only been involved for a couple of months and there's you know she's getting a handle on things and you know we do want to invest more in R&D.
Speaker #5: We do want new products to come out and line extensions, but, you know, so expect it to increase, but next year will be closer to sort of 5% of sales.
Speaker #4: Great. Okay, thanks, Jan. And just a second question, if I can. You’ve called out a number of the regions in Rest of World that have done very well.
Scott Power: Great. Okay. Thanks, John. Just a second question, if I can. You have called out a number of the regions in rest of world that have done very well. Are there any regions that perhaps are underperforming and up for review?
Scott Power: Great. Okay. Thanks, John. Just a second question, if I can. You have called out a number of the regions in rest of world that have done very well. Are there any regions that perhaps are underperforming and up for review?
Speaker #4: Are there any regions that perhaps are underperforming and up for review?
Speaker #2: So, I think just to jump in on that one, and the questions around rest of the world, I think it goes back to what we've learned, particularly around that evolution of the markets.
Bruce Peatey: I think just to jump in on that one and the questions around rest of the world, I think it goes back to what we have learned, particularly around that evolution of the markets. We talk about markets being at a different level of maturity. Again, as that mix between the large complex burns and the other complex wound applications. As that mix evolves, until that evolves, we will have some variability in those markets. That is why I called out the deliberate approach for at least 2027, FY27, is to go deeper in some of those high-potential markets rather than more emphasis on going into more markets. Definitely, we think we have got some potential in particularly some of the European markets, to go a little deeper and build up that momentum that we have seen in some of our more established markets.
Bruce Peatey: I think just to jump in on that one and the questions around rest of the world, I think it goes back to what we have learned, particularly around that evolution of the markets. We talk about markets being at a different level of maturity. Again, as that mix between the large complex burns and the other complex wound applications. As that mix evolves, until that evolves, we will have some variability in those markets. That is why I called out the deliberate approach for at least 2027, FY27, is to go deeper in some of those high-potential markets rather than more emphasis on going into more markets. Definitely, we think we have got some potential in particularly some of the European markets, to go a little deeper and build up that momentum that we have seen in some of our more established markets.
Speaker #2: And we talk about markets being at a different level of maturity. And again, as that mix between the large complex burns and the other complex wound applications—as that mix evolves, you know, until that evolves, we'll have some variability in those markets.
Speaker #2: So that's why I called out, you know, the deliberate approach for at least FY27, 2027, is to go deeper in some of those high-potential markets rather than, you know, put more emphasis on going into additional markets.
Speaker #2: So, definitely, we think we've got some potential, particularly in some of the European markets, to go a little deeper and build up that momentum that we've seen in some of our more established markets. Australia is performing extremely well, as you know, as one of our most mature markets, and you can see how that mix is changing in the US.
Bruce Peatey: Australia is performing extremely well as one of our most mature markets, and you can see how that mix is changing in the US. I would like to see that happen more in some of the European markets. Jan, I do not know if you have anything to add. You are on mute.
Bruce Peatey: Australia is performing extremely well as one of our most mature markets, and you can see how that mix is changing in the US. I would like to see that happen more in some of the European markets. Jan, I do not know if you have anything to add. You are on mute.
Speaker #2: I'd like to see that happen more in some of the European markets. And Jan, I don't know if you had anything to add—you're on mute.
Speaker #5: Apologies. Nothing really further to add, but you know we've had some really great performances. We know what good looks like, and we know how to get there in particular markets.
Jan Gielen: Apologies. Nothing really further to add, but we've had some really great performances. We know what good looks like, and we know how to get there in particular markets. A driving force in supporting distributors. We'll continue to do that, and anyone that's dropping off, we manage to pick them up again. There's no shortage of opportunity. Also in the Middle East, we see opportunities because we've had product go into that region since the wars occurred and all the activities have been going. Unfortunate activities that have occurred over there. That's another opportunity as well we're going to be looking at.
Jan Gielen: Apologies. Nothing really further to add, but we've had some really great performances. We know what good looks like, and we know how to get there in particular markets. A driving force in supporting distributors. We'll continue to do that, and anyone that's dropping off, we manage to pick them up again. There's no shortage of opportunity. Also in the Middle East, we see opportunities because we've had product go into that region since the wars occurred and all the activities have been going. Unfortunate activities that have occurred over there. That's another opportunity as well we're going to be looking at.
Speaker #5: You know, we’re a driving force in supporting distributors, so we’ll continue to do that. And anyone that’s sort of dropping off, you know, we manage to pick them up again, but there’s no shortage of opportunity.
Speaker #5: Also in the Middle East we see opportunities because we've had product go into that that region since the war occurred and and and all the activities have been going unfortunate activities that have occurred over there so that's another opportunity as well.
Speaker #5: We're going to be looking at—
Speaker #4: Great. Thanks, guys. That's all my questions.
Scott Power: Great. Thanks, guys. That's all my questions.
Scott Power: Great. Thanks, guys. That's all my questions.
Speaker #5: Thanks, Scott.
Bruce Peatey: Thanks, Scott.
Bruce Peatey: Thanks, Scott.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Your next question comes from Andrew Payne from CLSA. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Andrew Payne from CLSA. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Andrew Payne from CLSA. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: Yeah, morning all. Thanks for taking my questions. Look, in the trading update you mentioned that you were seeing record sales in June. It would be good if you could just quantify those sales and maybe provide any insights into how sales are tracking for the start of FY27.
Andrew Payne: Yeah, morning all. Thanks for taking my questions. Look, in the trading update, you mentioned that you were seeing record sales in June. It would be good if you can just quantify those sales and maybe provide any insights on how sales are tracking for the start of FY27.
Andrew Paine: Yeah, morning all. Thanks for taking my questions. Look, in the trading update, you mentioned that you were seeing record sales in June. It would be good if you can just quantify those sales and maybe provide any insights on how sales are tracking for the start of FY27.
Speaker #5: Be happy to jump in there, Bruce. Yeah. So, July, it was already mentioned, actually was a record result for the group. So, we actually achieved sales of over $30 million.
Jan Gielen: Yeah. Happy to jump in there, Bruce. Yes, July, as we have already mentioned actually, was a record result for the group. So we actually achieved sales over AUD 13 million. The US backed it up again, which is great. That is a really good sign of where we hope the quarter will end. So yeah, it has not gone off a cliff. It has done the opposite, which is a really good indication.
Jan Gielen: Yeah. Happy to jump in there, Bruce. Yes, July, as we have already mentioned actually, was a record result for the group. So we actually achieved sales over AUD 13 million. The US backed it up again, which is great. That is a really good sign of where we hope the quarter will end. So yeah, it has not gone off a cliff. It has done the opposite, which is a really good indication.
Speaker #5: The US backed it up again, which is great. That's a really good sign, you know, and we hope the quarter will end well. So yeah, it hasn't gone off the cliff.
Speaker #5: It's done the opposite, which is a really good indication.
Speaker #4: That's great. Sorry, I might have missed that earlier. And then just looking at the OPEX, you're giving a bit of leverage through '26.
Andrew Payne: That is great. Sorry, might have missed that earlier.
Andrew Paine: That is great. Sorry, might have missed that earlier.
Jan Gielen: Yeah.
Jan Gielen: Yeah.
Andrew Payne: Then just looking at the OpEx that you are giving a bit of leverage through 2026. Just kind of interested, especially in employee-related expenses. Obviously, those kind of FX movements there. Are you able to give any guidance around constant currency for employee-related expenses for just looking forward into 2027?
Andrew Paine: Then just looking at the OpEx that you are giving a bit of leverage through 2026. Just kind of interested, especially in employee-related expenses. Obviously, those kind of FX movements there. Are you able to give any guidance around constant currency for employee-related expenses for just looking forward into 2027?
Speaker #4: I'm just kind of interested, especially in employee-related expenses. Obviously, there are some FX movements there. Are you able to give any guidance around constant currency for employee-related expenses, just looking forward into '27?
Speaker #5: Right now, not at this point. I haven't got it in front of me, but in terms of the volatility, we certainly hope we don't see the volatility we've seen this year and the impact it's had on the P&L, particularly revenue.
Jan Gielen: Right now, not at this point. I haven't got it in front of me. In terms of the volatility, we certainly hope we don't see the volatility we've seen this year and the impact it's had on the P&L, particularly revenue. In terms of costs overall, the leverage is definitely coming through. You look at corporate admin and overhead costs being 1% down on the prior year. We're getting a lot more productivity out of the entire group, particularly in all our sales and marketing subsidiaries. The US average sales per rep continuing to grow, increasing profitability. We're seeing the same in the UK and Australia. That will start to come through even more so this year. I think the EBITDA or the profitability line is highly sensitive now to growth in sales.
Jan Gielen: Right now, not at this point. I haven't got it in front of me. In terms of the volatility, we certainly hope we don't see the volatility we've seen this year and the impact it's had on the P&L, particularly revenue. In terms of costs overall, the leverage is definitely coming through. You look at corporate admin and overhead costs being 1% down on the prior year. We're getting a lot more productivity out of the entire group, particularly in all our sales and marketing subsidiaries. The US average sales per rep continuing to grow, increasing profitability. We're seeing the same in the UK and Australia. That will start to come through even more so this year. I think the EBITDA or the profitability line is highly sensitive now to growth in sales.
Speaker #5: But in terms of overall costs, I mean the leverage is definitely coming through. I mean, you look at corporate admin and overhead costs being 1% down on the prior year.
Speaker #5: We’re getting a lot more productivity out of the entire group, particularly in all our sales and marketing subsidiaries. So, the US average sales per rep are continuing to grow, increasing profitability.
Speaker #5: We're seeing the same in the UK and Australia and so forth, and that will start to come through even more so this year. I think the EBITDA, or the profitability line, is highly sensitive now to the growth in sales.
Speaker #5: And you can see that with the underlying EBITDA growing by 50%. You know, we did have that, did have an impact, but you know we're off to a good start with record sales and a gross margin of 95% in July.
Jan Gielen: You can see that with the underlying EBITDA growth by 50%. We did have that. It did have an impact. We're off to a good start with record sales, gross margin of 95% in July. We're going to work towards making sure that continues through this H1.
Jan Gielen: You can see that with the underlying EBITDA growth by 50%. We did have that. It did have an impact. We're off to a good start with record sales, gross margin of 95% in July. We're going to work towards making sure that continues through this H1.
Speaker #5: And we're going to work towards making sure that continues through this first half.
Speaker #4: That's great, thanks. And just one last thing: just looking at your adjusted EBITDA number for significant items. Obviously there's the write-off of the asset, and just looking at the interim insurance claim.
Andrew Payne: That's great. Thanks. Just one last thing, just looking at your adjusted EBITDA numbers for significant items. Obviously, there's the write-off, the asset. Just looking at the interim insurance claim, where's that coming through the P&L?
Andrew Paine: That's great. Thanks. Just one last thing, just looking at your adjusted EBITDA numbers for significant items. Obviously, there's the write-off, the asset. Just looking at the interim insurance claim, where's that coming through the P&L?
Speaker #4: Where is that coming through the P&L?
Speaker #5: It'll be sitting in other income, and the net impact is a $1.1 million gain to the bottom line. But we've added it back there, and obviously, by adjusting for significant items.
Jan Gielen: It'll be sitting in other income. The net impact is AUD 1.1 million gain to the bottom line, but we've added it back there, and obviously by adjusting for significant items. The underlying result excludes any insurance impact and asset write-off impact.
Jan Gielen: It'll be sitting in other income. The net impact is AUD 1.1 million gain to the bottom line, but we've added it back there, and obviously by adjusting for significant items. The underlying result excludes any insurance impact and asset write-off impact.
Speaker #5: So the underlying result excludes any insurance impact and asset write-off impact.
Speaker #4: Yeah, okay. I can see it in the notes as well. Okay, that's perfect. That's all I had. Thanks.
Andrew Payne: Yeah. Okay. I can see it in the notes as well. Okay, that is perfect. That is all I had. Thanks.
Andrew Paine: Yeah. Okay. I can see it in the notes as well. Okay, that is perfect. That is all I had. Thanks.
Speaker #5: Thanks, Andrew.
Jan Gielen: Thanks, Andrew.
Jan Gielen: Thanks, Andrew.
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Speaker #5: Great, thank you. Bruce, we've got a few questions that have come through here. The first one being India: What are the plans for India, and is it breaking even?
Jan Gielen: Great. Thank you. Bruce, we have got a few questions that have come through here. The first one being India. What are the plans for India, and is it breaking even? Are we going to continue to invest in that market? Yes. Great question. We are very happy with the performance in India. You can see strong growth again for that team. I think more importantly, the underlying foundations of that business are very strong. The team there have built a solid, compliant, reliable business that is growing. Particularly when I look at lead indicators like the work that has been done over several years in winning contracts within India takes some time, it typically does. 2 years down the track, we are starting to win tenders that have only just come up. A lot of work to get there.
Jan Gielen: Great. Thank you. Bruce, we have got a few questions that have come through here. The first one being India. What are the plans for India, and is it breaking even? Are we going to continue to invest in that market?
Speaker #5: Are we going to continue to invest in that market?
Speaker #2: Yes, great question. So we're very happy with the performance in India. You can see strong growth again for that team.
Bruce Peatey: Yes. Great question. We are very happy with the performance in India. You can see strong growth again for that team. I think more importantly, the underlying foundations of that business are very strong. The team there have built a solid, compliant, reliable business that is growing. Particularly when I look at lead indicators like the work that has been done over several years in winning contracts within India takes some time, it typically does. 2 years down the track, we are starting to win tenders that have only just come up. A lot of work to get there.
Speaker #2: But I think, more importantly, the underlying foundations of that business are very strong. You know, the team there have built a solid, compliant, reliable business that is growing.
Speaker #2: Particularly when I look at lead indicators, like the work that has been done over several years in winning contracts within India, it takes some time.
Speaker #2: You know typically does you know two years you know down the track we're starting to win tenders that have only just come up. So a lot of work to get there.
Speaker #2: We've got that, you know, runway of tenders and contracts that are in the pipeline, and we're seeing those convert. So we're in a lot more hospitals now.
Jan Gielen: We've got that runway of tenders and contracts that are in the pipeline, and we're seeing those convert. We're in a lot more hospitals now. Several of the major All India Institutes of Medical Sciences hospitals in India, as well as the largest burn center in Asia, which is based in Delhi. Very strong growth. As far as profitability is concerned, that's expected within this financial year, really aiming for the Q2 to make sure that's a profitable business. Again, continuing to grow. We're putting discipline in the expense side of the business to make sure that we are starting to see returns on that investment before we go to the next phase. All signs are looking positive. Jan, if you wanted to add anything there. No, exactly right. It's going to continue to organically grow, and we'll break even this side of Christmas.
Bruce Peatey: We've got that runway of tenders and contracts that are in the pipeline, and we're seeing those convert. We're in a lot more hospitals now. Several of the major All India Institutes of Medical Sciences hospitals in India, as well as the largest burn center in Asia, which is based in Delhi. Very strong growth. As far as profitability is concerned, that's expected within this financial year, really aiming for the Q2 to make sure that's a profitable business. Again, continuing to grow. We're putting discipline in the expense side of the business to make sure that we are starting to see returns on that investment before we go to the next phase. All signs are looking positive. Jan, if you wanted to add anything there.
Speaker #2: You know, several of the major AIIMS hospitals in India, as well as the largest burn center in Asia, which is based in Delhi. So, very strong growth as far as profitability is concerned.
Speaker #2: That's expected within this financial year, really, you know, aiming for the second quarter. To make sure that's a profitable business. But again, continuing to grow, we've put in discipline on the expense side of the business to make sure that we are starting to see returns on that investment before we go to the next phase.
Speaker #2: But all signs are looking positive. I know Yan, if you wanted to add anything there.
Speaker #5: Not exactly right. So it's going to continue to organically grow, and will break even this side of Christmas. And, you know, they are growing significantly.
Jan Gielen: No, exactly right. It's going to continue to organically grow, and we'll break even this side of Christmas. They are growing significantly. They do have a lot of cases that they continue to treat. The growth has been exceptional, really, in terms of the number of patients, particularly compared to other markets. We are making inroads into the bigger burns, and it will just take time. Moving on. Just another question now, Bruce, just on competition in the US, and there's a specific here around AVITA Medical and their synthetic product and other synthetic competitors that may be popping up. What are we seeing in the US market, and how are we responding?
Jan Gielen: They are growing significantly. They do have a lot of cases that they continue to treat. The growth has been exceptional, really, in terms of the number of patients, particularly compared to other markets. We are making inroads into the bigger burns, and it will just take time. Moving on. Just another question now, Bruce, just on competition in the US, and there's a specific here around AVITA Medical and their synthetic product and other synthetic competitors that may be popping up. What are we seeing in the US market, and how are we responding? Yes, there's a little bit of noise in this space, and I think it actually relates back to also what we're seeing in that outpatient segment.
Speaker #5: They do have a lot of cases that they, you know, continue to treat, and the growth has been exceptional, really, in terms of the number of patients.
Speaker #5: Particularly compared to other markets. But we are making inroads into the bigger burns, and it will just take time. Moving on, just another question now, Bruce.
Speaker #5: Just on competition in the US, and there's a particular specific here around Avita and their synthetic products, and other synthetic competitors that may be popping up.
Speaker #5: What are we seeing in the US market, and how are we responding?
Speaker #2: So, yes, there's a little bit of noise in this space, and I think it actually relates back to also what we're seeing in that outpatient segment.
Bruce Peatey: Yes, there's a little bit of noise in this space, and I think it actually relates back to also what we're seeing in that outpatient segment.
Speaker #2: You know, with the number of players in the market, having the turbulence that has occurred due to the policy changes, we are seeing a bit more activity in the inpatients.
Bruce Peatey: With the number of the players in the market having the turbulence that has occurred due to the policy changes, we are seeing a bit more activity in the inpatients. I think it's important to ground ourselves in what BTM and MTX and the NovoSorb portfolio really does in the inpatient setting. Those large, complex cases where BTM was designed to-
Bruce Peatey: With the number of the players in the market having the turbulence that has occurred due to the policy changes, we are seeing a bit more activity in the inpatients. I think it's important to ground ourselves in what BTM and MTX and the NovoSorb portfolio really does in the inpatient setting. Those large, complex cases where BTM was designed to improve patient outcomes. Those results are well-documented now as you see more and more evidence, and the experiences of the clinicians are quite compelling. We might see some activity in those lower burn spaces where faster graft and other length of stay criteria are being discussed. We have options in that space.
Speaker #2: But I think it's important to ground ourselves in what BTM and MTX, and the NovoSorb portfolio, really do in the inpatient setting. So, those large complex cases where you know BTM was designed to improve patient outcomes.
Bruce Peatey: To improve patient outcomes. Those results are well-documented now as you see more and more evidence, and the experiences of the clinicians are quite compelling. We might see some activity in those lower burn spaces where faster graft and other length of stay criteria are being discussed. We have options in that space. Again, it's that larger wounds and more complex cases where we really shine through. In those other areas, again, there's some trialing going on, but we're seeing more and more that the clinicians can't forget the great outcomes that they've had with our product, and we're seeing that come back. That's evident in June being a record sales for the US, backing it up in July. We're definitely up for the fight, and we have the product that we believe that can stand up against any competition.
Speaker #2: Those results are well documented now. We can see more and more evidence, and the experiences of the clinicians are quite compelling. So, you know, we might see some activity in those lower burn spaces where, you know, faster graft and other length of stay criteria are being discussed.
Speaker #2: We have options in that space, but again, you know, it's those larger wounds and more complex cases where we really shine through. In those other areas, again, there's some trialing going on, but we're seeing more and more that clinicians can't forget the great outcomes they've had with our products, and we're seeing that come back.
Bruce Peatey: Again, it's that larger wounds and more complex cases where we really shine through. In those other areas, again, there's some trialing going on, but we're seeing more and more that the clinicians can't forget the great outcomes that they've had with our product, and we're seeing that come back. That's evident in June being a record sales for the US, backing it up in July. We're definitely up for the fight, and we have the product that we believe that can stand up against any competition.
Speaker #2: And that's evident in, you know, June being a record sales month for the US, backing it up in July. So, you know, we're definitely up for the fight, and we have the product that we believe can stand up against any competition.
Speaker #5: Great, thanks Bruce. Related to that, there's a question here from David at NNP Evans & Partners. Acknowledging the impact of FX in the second half and also the burn seasonality, just on the second half sales result—even though there was sequential growth of 5% in the US.
Jan Gielen: Great. Thanks, Bruce. Related to that, there is a question here from David at E&P Financial Group, Evans and Partners. Acknowledging the impact of FX in the H2 and also the burn seasonality just on the H2 sales result, even though there was sequential growth of 5% in the US. What gets the business back on track to close to a 20% growth rate, and how are we going with penetrating existing accounts and the 200 accounts added during the year? So really a question around how we accelerate growth in the commercial markets.
Jan Gielen: Great. Thanks, Bruce. Related to that, there is a question here from David at E&P, Evans and Partners. Acknowledging the impact of FX in the H2 and also the burn seasonality just on the H2 sales result, even though there was sequential growth of 5% in the US. What gets the business back on track to close to a 20% growth rate, and how are we going with penetrating existing accounts and the 200 accounts added during the year? So really a question around how we accelerate growth in the commercial markets.
Speaker #5: But what gets the business back on track to close to a 20% growth rate and and what and how are we going with you know penetrating existing accounts and the 200 accounts added during the year.
Speaker #5: So, really a question around how we accelerate growth in that commercial.
Speaker #1: Markets .
Speaker #2: So I think the priorities are clear . Like I laid out , you know , we've got , you know , momentum in that large moon space , which , you know , up until , you know , recent times , the key focus was on , you know , winning more accounts .
Bruce Peatey: I think the priorities are clear. Like I laid out, we have momentum in that large burn space, which up until recent times the key focus was on winning more accounts. We are in a majority of the large burn accounts in the US, primarily if we talk about the US as a driver. We have penetration into those accounts. It is not just that, it is the credibility that we build from being in those accounts that you can see is driving adoption of the product, whether it is BTM, MTX, or BTM and MTX in those complex wound cases. So that is where we see, and you can see the growth of the complex wound applications outside of those large accounts growing over 50% on a three-year CAGR. I think that gives us a lot of confidence that we have a runway for growth.
Bruce Peatey: I think the priorities are clear. Like I laid out, we have momentum in that large burn space, which up until recent times the key focus was on winning more accounts. We are in a majority of the large burn accounts in the US, primarily if we talk about the US as a driver. We have penetration into those accounts. It is not just that, it is the credibility that we build from being in those accounts that you can see is driving adoption of the product, whether it is BTM, MTX, or BTM and MTX in those complex wound cases. So that is where we see, and you can see the growth of the complex wound applications outside of those large accounts growing over 50% on a three-year CAGR. I think that gives us a lot of confidence that we have a runway for growth.
Speaker #2: We're in a majority of the large burn accounts in the US , primarily if we talk about the US as a driver and and we have penetration into those accounts , but it's not just that .
Speaker #2: It's the the credibility that we build from being in those accounts that you can see is driving adoption of the product , whether it's BTN , MT or BTN , and MT in those complex win cases .
Speaker #2: So that's where we see, and you can see, the growth of the complex wound applications outside of those large accounts growing over 50% on a three-year CAGR.
Speaker #2: I think that gives us a lot of confidence that we've got a runway for growth. And again, outside of the US, with some more focused activity around those larger markets where we can improve penetration, I think we can see that happening as well.
Bruce Peatey: Again, outside of the US with some more focused activity around those larger markets where we can improve penetration, I think we can see that happening as well.
Bruce Peatey: Again, outside of the US with some more focused activity around those larger markets where we can improve penetration, I think we can see that happening as well.
Speaker #3: Great, thanks, Bruce. Quite a few questions on the R&D pipeline here. It's probably a good opportunity to acknowledge where we're at.
Jan Gielen: Great. Thanks, Bruce. Quite a few questions on the R&D pipeline here. It is probably a good opportunity to acknowledge where we are at, and then just to reinforce, I guess, what you said earlier, Bruce, about how we are investing in that area, and how the pipeline would evolve and anything you can share there just to reassure shareholders that we are working on it.
Jan Gielen: Great. Thanks, Bruce. Quite a few questions on the R&D pipeline here. It is probably a good opportunity to acknowledge where we are at, and then just to reinforce, I guess, what you said earlier, Bruce, about how we are investing in that area, and how the pipeline would evolve and anything you can share there just to reassure shareholders that we are working on it.
Speaker #3: And then just to reinforce , I guess , what you said earlier , Bruce , about how we're investing in that area and how the pipeline would evolve .
Speaker #3: And is there anything you can share there just to reassure shareholders that we are working on it?
Speaker #2: Yeah , absolutely . Like we mentioned . So more resources going into that program through the course of FY 27 . Now that we're starting to wind down some of the PMA activity .
Bruce Peatey: Yeah, absolutely. As we mentioned, more resources are going into that program through the course of FY27, now that we are starting to wind down some of the PMA activity. We are bringing, I have got to say this, we are bringing greater discipline to our innovation and portfolio decisions. That is going to be important so that we can make decisions, whether it is to speed up or delay or even to kill projects, so that we get the output that we are looking to achieve. There is a lot of talk about hernia and breast recon. They are definitely in consideration as we decide on the focus areas for our portfolio. We have also got products that are in the pipeline that very much speak to our strategic pillar of scaling the core business, that we look to advance those and keep fueling the growth in our complex wound application business.
Bruce Peatey: Yeah, absolutely. As we mentioned, more resources are going into that program through the course of FY27, now that we are starting to wind down some of the PMA activity. We are bringing, I have got to say this, we are bringing greater discipline to our innovation and portfolio decisions. That is going to be important so that we can make decisions, whether it is to speed up or delay or even to kill projects, so that we get the output that we are looking to achieve. There is a lot of talk about hernia and breast recon. They are definitely in consideration as we decide on the focus areas for our portfolio. We have also got products that are in the pipeline that very much speak to our strategic pillar of scaling the core business, that we look to advance those and keep fueling the growth in our complex wound application business.
Speaker #2: But we're bringing like I got to say this , we're bringing greater discipline to the our innovation and portfolio decisions . And that's going to be important so that we can make decisions , whether it is to speed up or delay or even to kill projects so that we get the output that we are looking to achieve .
Speaker #2: So there's a lot of talk about hernia and breast recon there. Definitely in consideration as we decide on the focus areas for our portfolio.
Speaker #2: We've also products that are in the pipeline that very much speak to our strategic pillar of scaling the core business . That we look to advance those and keep fueling the growth in our complex wound application business and in addition to that , making sure that we've got works being done on the potential of the platform , like I say , and what I've learned .
Bruce Peatey: In addition to that, making sure that we have got works being done on the potential of the platform. As I say, and what I have learned, we have got this beautiful polymer, which is a gift to our business. Over recent years, understandably, we have had a lot of focus on growing the US and making sure we support BTM expansion, MTX coming into the market, now SynPath coming into the market. We are going to be assigning a portion of our innovation mindset and decision-making around what can we do with this platform to build that next growth engine for the business beyond the core business. I am really excited about that we have now the opportunity and the capabilities in the business to be able to manage those well and keep the momentum in the core business.
Bruce Peatey: In addition to that, making sure that we have got works being done on the potential of the platform. As I say, and what I have learned, we have got this beautiful polymer, which is a gift to our business. Over recent years, understandably, we have had a lot of focus on growing the US and making sure we support BTM expansion, MTX coming into the market, now SynPath coming into the market. We are going to be assigning a portion of our innovation mindset and decision-making around what can we do with this platform to build that next growth engine for the business beyond the core business. I am really excited about that we have now the opportunity and the capabilities in the business to be able to manage those well and keep the momentum in the core business.
Speaker #2: We've got this beautiful polymer , which is a gift to our business . And then , you know , over recent years , understandably , you know , we've had a lot of focus on growing the US and making sure we BTM expansion , MDX coming into the market now , sympathy coming into the market .
Speaker #2: We are going to be assigning a portion of our innovation mindset and decision-making around what we can do with this platform to build a next growth engine for the business beyond the core business.
Speaker #2: I'm really excited about that , that we have now . The opportunity and the capabilities in the business to be able to to manage those well and keep the momentum in the in the core business
Speaker #3: Great, thanks, Bruce. There's a question here, talking about it's great to see the textbook publications referencing our products and so forth. What specific trials is P and V?
Jan Gielen: Great. Thanks, Bruce. There is a question here talking about, great to see the textbook publications referencing our products and so forth. What specific trials does PNV have underway so new regulatory approval submissions can actually be made to scientifically back new indications? Do we have any RCTs underway? Maybe there is also an opportunity, Bruce, there to talk about the IQVIA studies on the health economics and the free flap compared to BTM in the UK that we are doing. Any evidence?
Jan Gielen: Great. Thanks, Bruce. There is a question here talking about, great to see the textbook publications referencing our products and so forth. What specific trials does PNV have underway so new regulatory approval submissions can actually be made to scientifically back new indications? Do we have any RCTs underway? Maybe there is also an opportunity, Bruce, there to talk about the IQVIA studies on the health economics and the free flap compared to BTM in the UK that we are doing. Any evidence?
Speaker #3: Have underway? So, new regulatory approval submissions can actually be made to scientifically back new indications. So, do we have any RCTs underway?
Speaker #3: Maybe there's also an opportunity, Bruce, to talk about the IQVIA studies and the health economics, and the free flap compared to BTM in the UK that we're doing.
Speaker #3: But any evidence .
Speaker #2: Really ? Yeah , really good point . Yeah . And so there are a number of investigator initiated studies underway in multiple applications that we're happy to support .
Bruce Peatey: Yeah. A really good point, Jan. There are a number of investigator-initiated studies underway in multiple applications, that we are happy to support. I think, going back to the RCT that is linked with the clinical study, the PMA application, to me, is going to be a real highlight and have far-reaching benefits beyond just the PMA application. As I said, it is the largest of its kind, first for a synthetic, and a study like this has not been done for decades in this space. Making sure we maximize the awareness of those outcomes when they are able to be shared is going to be an important piece. You make an important point there, Jan. Health economics is such an important part of driving growth in medical technology.
Bruce Peatey: Yeah. A really good point, Jan. There are a number of investigator-initiated studies underway in multiple applications, that we are happy to support. I think, going back to the RCT that is linked with the clinical study, the PMA application, to me, is going to be a real highlight and have far-reaching benefits beyond just the PMA application. As I said, it is the largest of its kind, first for a synthetic, and a study like this has not been done for decades in this space. Making sure we maximize the awareness of those outcomes when they are able to be shared is going to be an important piece. You make an important point there, Jan. Health economics is such an important part of driving growth in medical technology.
Speaker #2: I think , you know , going back to the RCT , that's linked with the the clinical study that like the PMI application to me is , is going to be a real highlight and have far reaching benefits beyond just the PMA application .
Speaker #2: Like I said, it's the largest of its kind. First, for a synthetic, and a study like this hasn't been done for decades in this space.
Speaker #2: So, making sure we maximize the awareness of those outcomes when they are able to be shared is going to be an important piece.
Speaker #2: But you make an important point there, Jan. Health economics is such an important part of driving growth in medical technology.
Speaker #2: So it's not just about the clinical performance, but that clinical performance can be matched up with a willingness and ability to pay.
Bruce Peatey: It is not just about the clinical performance, but that clinical performance can be matched up with a willingness and ability to pay, and showing the economic benefits to some of our key stakeholders. Alongside this study, there is also a health economics work that is being done in partnership with IQVIA, that will be able to show the economic benefit of using BTM versus the current standard of care. That is one. Also, as Jan mentioned, a second health economic arm looking at the economics of free flap, which is the current procedure for some of the larger oncology surgical reconstructions, and looking at how our products then line up against that standard of care. It is really important, and I would say it is like the third arm to it.
Bruce Peatey: It is not just about the clinical performance, but that clinical performance can be matched up with a willingness and ability to pay, and showing the economic benefits to some of our key stakeholders. Alongside this study, there is also a health economics work that is being done in partnership with IQVIA, that will be able to show the economic benefit of using BTM versus the current standard of care. That is one. Also, as Jan mentioned, a second health economic arm looking at the economics of free flap, which is the current procedure for some of the larger oncology surgical reconstructions, and looking at how our products then line up against that standard of care. It is really important, and I would say it is like the third arm to it.
Speaker #2: And showing the economic benefits to some of our key stakeholders. So, alongside this study, there's also a health economics work that's being done in partnership with IQVIA.
Speaker #2: That'll be able to show the economic benefit of using BTM versus the current standard of care . That's that's one . And then also , as Jan mentioned , a second health economics arm looking at that , the economics of free flap , which is the current procedure for some of the larger surgical oncology , surgical reconstructions .
Speaker #2: And looking at how our products then line up against that standard of care . So really important . And , you know , I'd say it's like the third arm to it .
Speaker #2: You have your innovation arm with R&D, you have your sales and marketing commercialization arm, but market access and bringing that skill and capability into our business really completes that flywheel of growth.
Bruce Peatey: You have your innovation arm with R&D, you have your sales and marketing commercialization arm, but market access and bringing that skill and capability into our business really completes that flywheel of growth. I am looking forward to all of these elements coming to market.
Bruce Peatey: You have your innovation arm with R&D, you have your sales and marketing commercialization arm, but market access and bringing that skill and capability into our business really completes that flywheel of growth. I am looking forward to all of these elements coming to market.
Speaker #2: And I'm looking forward to all of these elements coming to market.
Speaker #3: Great . Thanks , Bruce . And on the back of that , a great question here . Can you please remind us of what the PMA approval could do for Polynovo ?
Jan Gielen: Great. Thanks, Bruce, and on the back of that, a great question here. Can you please remind us of what the PMA approval could do for PolyNovo, both commercially, and in terms of clinical evidence globally?
Jan Gielen: Great. Thanks, Bruce, and on the back of that, a great question here. Can you please remind us of what the PMA approval could do for PolyNovo, both commercially, and in terms of clinical evidence globally?
Speaker #3: Both commercially and in terms of clinical evidence globally? Yeah.
Speaker #2: So number one , I think it's credibility . Like it gives credibility to the platform of BTM going through what is , you know , really the , the highest level of clinical study and then having that approved , you know , by the PMA is a real advantage .
Bruce Peatey: Yeah. Number one, I think it is credibility. It gives credibility to the platform of BTM, going through what is really the highest level of clinical study, and then having that approved by the PMA is a real advantage. Also, though, it helps us on the reimbursement side, then it gives you the ability to apply for reimbursement. I want to remind everyone that, there is such an important point. The progress that we have made in the US has been against an incumbent technology that has reimbursement, that has that approval. We do not have the indication for deep burns until the PMA approval. The team do not promote it. This is a clinician-led expansion. To me, that is the most powerful message you could ever tell about BTM.
Bruce Peatey: Yeah. Number one, I think it is credibility. It gives credibility to the platform of BTM, going through what is really the highest level of clinical study, and then having that approved by the PMA is a real advantage. Also, though, it helps us on the reimbursement side, then it gives you the ability to apply for reimbursement. I want to remind everyone that, there is such an important point. The progress that we have made in the US has been against an incumbent technology that has reimbursement, that has that approval. We do not have the indication for deep burns until the PMA approval. The team do not promote it. This is a clinician-led expansion. To me, that is the most powerful message you could ever tell about BTM.
Speaker #2: Also , though it helps with on the reimbursement side , you know , then it gives you the ability to apply for reimbursement .
Speaker #2: And I want to remind everyone that like , there's such an important point . The progress that we've made in the US has been against an incumbent technology that has reimbursement , that has that approval .
Speaker #2: You know , we don't have the indication for deep burns until the PMA approval . So the team , you know , don't promote it .
Speaker #2: This is a clinical clinician led expansion . To me , that's the most powerful message you could ever tell about BTM . The fact that this product , through clinician and peer to peer education , you know , sharing their experiences , has grown to the point that it has is quite unique .
Bruce Peatey: The fact that this product, through clinician and peer-to-peer education, sharing their experiences, has grown to the point that it has, is quite unique. That gives me confidence beyond the PMA approval that we can continue that good work, actively promote, actively defend the product. I think the third element is that beyond the scope of the US, that credibility then helps us enter markets, like we have mentioned, some other markets in Asia, like Japan, maybe down the track, China. That type of evidence helps. There is always going to be potentially local evidence requirements, but that is definitely going to help credibility from a registration perspective. Then outside into the European markets, for example. It really does give you the ability to have some swagger, when it comes to our portfolio.
Bruce Peatey: The fact that this product, through clinician and peer-to-peer education, sharing their experiences, has grown to the point that it has, is quite unique. That gives me confidence beyond the PMA approval that we can continue that good work, actively promote, actively defend the product. I think the third element is that beyond the scope of the US, that credibility then helps us enter markets, like we have mentioned, some other markets in Asia, like Japan, maybe down the track, China. That type of evidence helps. There is always going to be potentially local evidence requirements, but that is definitely going to help credibility from a registration perspective. Then outside into the European markets, for example. It really does give you the ability to have some swagger, when it comes to our portfolio.
Speaker #2: And so, that gives me confidence beyond the PMA approval that we can continue that good work, actively promote, and actively defend the product.
Speaker #2: And I think the third element is that beyond the scope of the US , that credibility , then helps us enter markets like we've mentioned , some other markets in Asia , like Japan , maybe down the track , China , that type of evidence helps , you know , there's always going to be potentially local evidence requirements .
Speaker #2: But that is definitely going to help credibility from a registration perspective . And then outside into the European markets , for example , you know , it really does give you the ability to have some swagger .
Speaker #2: You know, when it comes to our portfolio.
Speaker #3: Thanks , Bruce . And you may have answered this in that question . I've been busy reading questions here . There's questions around Japan and China entry in a comment .
Jan Gielen: Thanks, Bruce. You may have answered this in that question. I have been busy reading questions here. There are questions around Japan and China entry, and a comment, I believe you had discussions with the Pharmaceuticals and Medical Devices Agency in Japan. Can you provide the latest update?
Jan Gielen: Thanks, Bruce. You may have answered this in that question. I have been busy reading questions here. There are questions around Japan and China entry, and a comment, I believe you had discussions with the Pharmaceuticals and Medical Devices Agency in Japan. Can you provide the latest update?
Speaker #3: I believe you had discussions with the PMDA in Japan. Can you provide the latest update?
Speaker #2: Sure , yes . Yeah . I was in Japan . I met with our our distribution partner there . So commercial readiness is progressing as much as you can before registration understanding , I was able to go to a burns conference in Tokyo , all in Japanese .
Bruce Peatey: Sure. Yes. I was in Japan. I have met with our distribution partner there, so commercial readiness is progressing as much as you can before registration. Understanding I was able to go to a burns conference in Tokyo, all in Japanese. I had to use the translations, but I was able to follow along, and the enthusiasm is there for sure. The other piece of the puzzle is, not only registration, of which the clinical study will help with that, but also reimbursement. So putting all of those pieces together to make sure that this is a market that is going to provide us additional sustainable growth for the long term, putting those pieces together. But I think the gating piece now is getting to the other side of that PMA approval and sharing that clinical study.
Bruce Peatey: Sure. Yes. I was in Japan. I have met with our distribution partner there, so commercial readiness is progressing as much as you can before registration. Understanding I was able to go to a burns conference in Tokyo, all in Japanese. I had to use the translations, but I was able to follow along, and the enthusiasm is there for sure. The other piece of the puzzle is, not only registration, of which the clinical study will help with that, but also reimbursement. So putting all of those pieces together to make sure that this is a market that is going to provide us additional sustainable growth for the long term, putting those pieces together. But I think the gating piece now is getting to the other side of that PMA approval and sharing that clinical study.
Speaker #2: I had to use the translations , but I was able to follow along and the enthusiasm is is there for sure . Now , the other piece of the puzzle is not only registration of which the clinical study will help with that , but also reimbursement .
Speaker #2: So putting all of those pieces together to make sure that this is a market that is going to provide us , you know , additional sustainable growth for the long term , putting those pieces together .
Speaker #2: But I think the gating piece now is getting to the other side of that PMA approval, and then sharing that clinical study.
Speaker #3: Thanks , Bruce . I'll give you a break for a sec . There's a question here , and I can answer this one .
Jan Gielen: Thanks, Bruce. I will give you a break for a sec. There is a question here, and I can answer this one. Can you please expand on the comment, augment the manufacturing footprint? Really what we mean about that is make that transition to a new facility, which we are going to look to do in March next year. Then, it will be a phased approach as we exit out of the other two facilities that we have currently got in place. One of those older facilities will be kept as a redundant facility or backup, if you like, which is a good thing to have. But that is really what that comment means. Just scrolling through, so give me a moment. A question again about the DFU outpatient market in the US.
Jan Gielen: Thanks, Bruce. I will give you a break for a sec. There is a question here, and I can answer this one. Can you please expand on the comment, augment the manufacturing footprint? Really what we mean about that is make that transition to a new facility, which we are going to look to do in March next year. Then, it will be a phased approach as we exit out of the other two facilities that we have currently got in place. One of those older facilities will be kept as a redundant facility or backup, if you like, which is a good thing to have. But that is really what that comment means. Just scrolling through, so give me a moment. A question again about the DFU outpatient market in the US.
Speaker #3: Can you please expand on the comment, "augment the manufacturing footprint"? Really, what we mean by that is making that transition to a new facility, which we're going to look to do in March next year.
Speaker #3: And then, you know, it'll be a phased approach as we exit out of the other two facilities that we've currently got in place.
Speaker #3: And one of those older facilities will be kept as redundant and redundant facility or back up if you like , which is which is a good thing to have .
Speaker #3: But that's really what that comment means . Just scrolling through , just give me a moment , a question again about the DFU outpatient market in the US .
Speaker #3: Any trials? Are we going to be conducting any, and what evidence have we got that we could use to submit to the CMS right now?
Jan Gielen: Any trials are we going to be conducting, and what evidence have we got that we could use to submit to the CMS right now?
Jan Gielen: Any trials are we going to be conducting, and what evidence have we got that we could use to submit to the CMS right now?
Speaker #3: Yeah .
Speaker #2: So, the CM has opened a window to send in more evidence. And, you know, we are going to take that opportunity to send evidence from around the world.
Bruce Peatey: Yeah. The CMS opened a window to send in more evidence and we are going to take that opportunity to send evidence from around the world. We have some evidence locally that is very strong for BTM in chronic wounds. Making sure we can share the details when appropriate, but that will form part of the pack. It's not ideal in a sense for US local data is probably preferred like most countries, but this is such a compelling piece of evidence we wanted to make sure that that could be included. So that's an important piece. What was the rest of the question, Jan?
Bruce Peatey: Yeah. The CMS opened a window to send in more evidence and we are going to take that opportunity to send evidence from around the world. We have some evidence locally that is very strong for BTM in chronic wounds. Making sure we can share the details when appropriate, but that will form part of the pack. It's not ideal in a sense for US local data is probably preferred like most countries, but this is such a compelling piece of evidence we wanted to make sure that that could be included. So that's an important piece. What was the rest of the question, Jan?
Speaker #2: We have some evidence locally that is very strong for BTM in chronic wounds. So, making sure we can share the details when appropriate, but that will form part of the pack.
Speaker #2: You know , it's not ideal in a sense for us . Local data is probably preferred . Like most countries , but this is such a compelling piece of evidence .
Speaker #2: We wanted to make sure that that could be included. So that's an important piece. What was the rest of the question?
Speaker #2: Young
Speaker #3: Yeah, I think it was really just around what other—what can we submit to the CMS, and do we have any specific RCT trial for DFU planned?
Jan Gielen: Yeah, I think it was really just around what can we submit to the CMS, and do we have any specific RCT trial for DFU planned?
Jan Gielen: Yeah, I think it was really just around what can we submit to the CMS, and do we have any specific RCT trial for DFU planned?
Speaker #2: Yeah . And I suppose the the main point I want to get across with DFU and Vlu as well . Those chronic wounds is that while we're gaining some very compelling real world evidence along the way , it's important to realize that this outside of the outpatient , outside of the inpatient setting , there are a number of factors , including the reimbursement factor , but also physician .
Bruce Peatey: Yeah. I suppose the main point I want to get across with DFU and VLU as well, those chronic wounds, is that while we're gaining some very compelling real-world evidence along the way, it's important to realize that this, outside of the inpatient setting, there are a number of factors, including the reimbursement factor, but also provider economics, those sort of things as well. And the one thing with those chronic wounds, it's geared towards repeat application, of which our product is not designed to do. We are more around a high acuity, there's a surgical procedure. You put the product on and it does its work. So we're making sure that all of those factors line up as we look at that part of the market. That's the part of the market in our patients that is in the most amount of flux.
Bruce Peatey: Yeah. I suppose the main point I want to get across with DFU and VLU as well, those chronic wounds, is that while we're gaining some very compelling real-world evidence along the way, it's important to realize that this, outside of the inpatient setting, there are a number of factors, including the reimbursement factor, but also provider economics, those sort of things as well. And the one thing with those chronic wounds, it's geared towards repeat application, of which our product is not designed to do. We are more around a high acuity, there's a surgical procedure. You put the product on and it does its work. So we're making sure that all of those factors line up as we look at that part of the market. That's the part of the market in our patients that is in the most amount of flux.
Speaker #2: So provider economics , those those sort of things as well . And the one thing with those chronic wounds that it's geared towards , repeat application of which our product is not designed to do , you know , we are more around a high acuity .
Speaker #2: There's a surgical procedure. You put the product on, and it does its work. So, we're making sure that all of those factors line up as we look at that part of the market.
Speaker #2: That's the part of the market and our patients that is in the most amount of flux. And so, we've got opportunities in areas that are very aligned with our customer base, very aligned with what our product can do, and a significant market potential that we can go after, looking at those simple, single, episodic cases.
Bruce Peatey: We've got opportunities in areas that are very aligned with our customer base, very aligned with what our product can do, and a significant market potential that we can go after looking at those single episodic cases. That is where we will start.
Bruce Peatey: We've got opportunities in areas that are very aligned with our customer base, very aligned with what our product can do, and a significant market potential that we can go after looking at those single episodic cases. That is where we will start.
Speaker #2: So that's where we'll start.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Bruce. This will be our last question. We're coming up to the hour, and we've pretty much got through all of them, actually.
Jan Gielen: Thanks, Bruce. This will be our last question. We are coming up to the hour, and we have pretty much got through all of them, actually. Any that do remain, we will send an email after the call. Important question. It is an opportunity to talk about how we mitigate risks really too as well. We have got here, what are the biggest risks you see to achieving your plan over the next couple of years?
Jan Gielen: Thanks, Bruce. This will be our last question. We are coming up to the hour, and we have pretty much got through all of them, actually. Any that do remain, we will send an email after the call. Important question. It is an opportunity to talk about how we mitigate risks really too as well. We have got here, what are the biggest risks you see to achieving your plan over the next couple of years?
Speaker #3: Any that do remain , we'll send an email after the call . Important question . It's an opportunity to talk about how we mitigate risks , really to as well .
Speaker #3: So we've got here, what are the biggest risks you see to achieving your plan over the next couple of years?
Speaker #2: Well , like I said , you know , we've got a proven platform , you know , that we know that that works .
Bruce Peatey: Well, like I said, we have got a proven platform that we know that works. I am not worried about the product. I am not worried about competition, to be honest. Our key focus is execution. We are building that discipline into the organization to make sure that we have the operating mechanisms from the leadership all the way through the organization to ensure that we do what we say we are going to do. That is key for me, and it always has been and it always will be. So, setting up the forums, the operating mechanism to make sure we execute. I am very pleased with how we have progressed as an organization since I joined in December. I think we have got a leadership now where we have added capabilities in, combine that with some great institutional knowledge for leaders that have been in the organization for some time.
Bruce Peatey: Well, like I said, we have got a proven platform that we know that works. I am not worried about the product. I am not worried about competition, to be honest. Our key focus is execution. We are building that discipline into the organization to make sure that we have the operating mechanisms from the leadership all the way through the organization to ensure that we do what we say we are going to do. That is key for me, and it always has been and it always will be. So, setting up the forums, the operating mechanism to make sure we execute. I am very pleased with how we have progressed as an organization since I joined in December.
Speaker #2: You know , I'm not worried about the product . I'm not not worried about competition , to be honest . You know , our key focus is execution .
Speaker #2: And we’re building that discipline into the organization to make sure that we have the operating mechanisms from the leadership all the way through the organization, to ensure that we do what we say we’re going to do.
Speaker #2: And that's key for me . And it always has been . And always will be . So setting up those , those , the forums , the operating mechanism to make sure that we execute on very pleased with how we've progressed as an organization since I joined in December , I think we've got a leadership now where we've added capabilities in combining that with some great institutional knowledge for , you know , leaders that have been in the organization for some time .
Bruce Peatey: I think we have got a leadership now where we have added capabilities in, combine that with some great institutional knowledge for leaders that have been in the organization for some time.
Speaker #2: This is a powerful team . We're going to get stronger as well . And having that rhythm that we've got in place now to make sure we're focused on the priorities and we're delivering what we say we're going to do .
Bruce Peatey: This is a powerful team. We are going to get stronger as well. Having that rhythm that we have got in place now to make sure we are focused on the priorities and we are delivering what we say we are going to do. I look forward to the year ahead as we update more of these milestones being completed.
Bruce Peatey: This is a powerful team. We are going to get stronger as well. Having that rhythm that we have got in place now to make sure we are focused on the priorities and we are delivering what we say we are going to do. I look forward to the year ahead as we update more of these milestones being completed.
Speaker #2: I look forward to the year ahead as we update more of these milestones being completed.
Speaker #3: Great . Thanks , Bruce . I think we'll leave it there . We're on the hour and I guess thank you , everyone , for dialing in .
Jan Gielen: Great. Thanks, Bruce. I think we will leave it there. We are on the hour. Thank you everyone for dialing in. I will hand it back to you, Bruce, just for closing remarks.
Jan Gielen: Great. Thanks, Bruce. I think we will leave it there. We are on the hour. Thank you everyone for dialing in. I will hand it back to you, Bruce, just for closing remarks.
Speaker #3: And I'll hand it back to you , Bruce , just to for closing remarks .
Speaker #2: Oh, I guess just to close up, I'll say thanks to everyone for joining. Thanks for your time. I hope this has been valuable information for you.
Bruce Peatey: Oh, yes. Just to close up, I would say thanks everyone for joining. Thanks for your time. I hope this has been valuable information for you. We do intend to continue our communication to the market as appropriate when we have significant updates, and keep watching for those. I think we have turned the corner as far as starting the year very well, finishing the year well, starting the year well in July. We look to bring that momentum into the rest of FY27 as we tick off these important milestones. An exciting year ahead.
Bruce Peatey: Oh, yes. Just to close up, I would say thanks everyone for joining. Thanks for your time. I hope this has been valuable information for you. We do intend to continue our communication to the market as appropriate when we have significant updates, and keep watching for those. I think we have turned the corner as far as starting the year very well, finishing the year well, starting the year well in July. We look to bring that momentum into the rest of FY27 as we tick off these important milestones. An exciting year ahead.
Speaker #2: You know , we do intend to continue our communication to the market as appropriate when we have significant updates and , you know , keep keep watching for those .
Speaker #2: I think we've turned the corner . We've as far as starting the year very well , finishing the year well , starting the year well in July , we look to bring that momentum into the rest of FY 27 as we tick off these important milestones .
