Q2 2026 China Pacific Insurance (Group) Co Ltd Earnings Call

August 28, 2026

Speaker #1: On June 21 this year, and also to listen to your views on how to protect the interests of small and mid-sized investors, we are conducting this event both online and offline.

Shaojun Su: In the H1 of this year, also to listen to your views on us. To protect the interest of the small and the mid-sized investors, we are conducting this event online and offline so as to cover more investors. After the meeting, you can also view the view back. You can access the view back of this event from on our website. Now, let me introduce the executives, Yonggang Zhao, CPIC Group President, and Shaojun Su, CPIC Group Vice President and CFO. Chen Hui, CPIC P&C General Manager. Also Li Jinsong, General Manager of CPIC Life. Our independent directors will also join this event offline and online. First of all, Yonggang Zhao, our President, will give you introduction of our performance in the H1 of this year, to be followed by a Q&A session.

Speaker #1: So, to reach more investors, after the meeting you can also view this playback. You can access the playback of this event on our website.

Speaker #1: Now, let me introduce the executives: Mr. Zhao Yonggang, CPIC Group President; Mr. Su Gang, CPIC Group Vice President and CFO; Mr. Cheng Hui, CPIC PNC General Manager; and Mr. Li Jinsong, General Manager of CPIC Life.

Speaker #1: Our independent directors will also join this event offline, as well as online. First of all, Mr. Zhao Yonggang, our President, will give you an introduction of our performance in the first half of this year.

Speaker #1: To be followed by a Q&A session. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, friends from the investment community and media. It's a great pleasure to meet you.

Yonggang Zhao: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, friends from the investment community and media. It is a great pleasure to meet you. In the H1 of this year, in a very complex and a fast-changing environment, we have stayed focused on our core business of insurance, seized the opportunity arising from China's demographic change, industrial transformation, and also application of AI technologies. On the overall, we delivered a steady improvement in overall operating profit and sustained growth in comprehensive strength. To give you some numbers, our group operating income amounted to CNY 212 billion, up 5.8% year on year. Group OPAT reached CNY 21.1 billion, up 6.2%. Group net profits reached CNY 30.8 billion, up 10.4%. Net assets attributable to parent shareholders stood at CNY 319.2 billion, up 5.6% from the end of 2025.

Speaker #1: In the first half of this year, in a very complex and fast-changing environment, we stayed focused on our core business of insurance, seized the opportunity arising from China's demographic change, industrial transformation, and also the application of AI technologies.

Speaker #1: Against all odds, we delivered steady improvement in overall operating profit and sustained growth in comprehensive strengths. To give you some numbers, our Group operating income amounted to $212 billion, up 5.8% year-on-year.

Speaker #1: Group OPAT reached $21.1 billion, up 6.2%. Group net profits reached $30.8 billion, up 10.4%. Net assets attributable to parent shareholders stood at $319.2 billion.

Speaker #1: Up 5.6% from the end of 2025. Our new business value of life business grew 12.7% year-on-year, and the combined ratio of P&C business improved by 1.3 percentage points.

Yonggang Zhao: Our new business value of life business grew 12.7% year on year, and the combined ratio of P&C business improved by 1.3 percentage point. Our group AUM surpassed the CNY 4 trillion mark for the first time, and our core solvency margin remained well above the regulatory requirements. We have been improving disclosure of operating profit and following the implementation of the new accounting standards, net profit has become more sensitive to capital market environment, and OPAT presents a clearer view of the company's long-term operating performance. In recent years, our group OPAT, maintained a steady growth. In the H1 of this year, OPAT from life business was CNY 15.9 billion, up 5.9% year on year, while P&C business reached CNY 6.3 billion, up 26% year on year. On this issue of contractual service margin, CSM is a key financial indicator. It reflects the sustainability of the future profits.

Speaker #1: Our group AUM surpassed the $4 trillion mark for the first time, and our core solvency margin remained well above the regulatory requirements. We have been providing disclosure of operating profit.

Speaker #1: And following the implementation of the new accounting standards, net profit has become more sensitive to capital market improvements. OPAT presents a clearer view of the company's long-term operating performance.

Speaker #1: In recent years, our group OPAT maintained steady growth. In the first half of this year, OPAT from life business was $15.9 billion, up 5.9% year on year, while PNC business reached $3.63 billion, up 26% year on year.

Speaker #1: On the issue of contractual service margin, well, CSM is a key financial indicator. It reflects the sustainability of the future profits. Our CSM has continued to grow since 2023, reaching $368.8 billion at the end of the first half of first half of this year, up 3.3% from the end of 2025.

Yonggang Zhao: Our CSM has continued to grow since 2023, reaching CNY 368.8 billion at the end of the H1 of this year, up 3.3% from the end of 2025. By the end of June this year, our group net assets stood at CNY 319 billion, up 5.6% year on year. This is achieved on the back of a steady profit contribution and a solid foundation in asset liability matching. We also have a solid capital position. At the end of June this year, the comprehensive and the core solvency margin ratios were well above the regulatory requirements. We are committed to shareholder returns with a clearly defined medium and long-term dividend policy based on operating profit. Since 2007, we have distributed a total of CNY 130 billion in cash dividends to the shareholders.

Speaker #1: By the end of June this year, our group net assets stood at $319 billion, up 5.6% year on year. This was achieved on the back of a steady profit contribution and a solid foundation in asset-liability matching.

Speaker #1: We also have a solid capital position. At the end of June this year, the comprehensive and the core solvency margin ratios were well above the regulatory requirements.

Speaker #1: We committed we are committed to shareholder returns. With a clearly defined medium and long-term dividend policy based on dividend policy based on operating profit.

Speaker #1: Since 2007, we have distributed a total of ¥130 billion in cash dividends to shareholders. For the first half of this year, we optimized the dividend distribution arrangement and implemented an interim dividend for the first time, with an interim DPS of ¥0.42.

Yonggang Zhao: For the first half of this year, we optimized the dividend distribution arrangement and implemented an interim dividend for the first time with an interim DPS of CNY 0.42 and a total interim dividend amount of CNY 4.04 billion, further enhancing investors' experience. Next, I'll talk about the performance of our life business, P&C business, and also asset management business. For the life business, we remain committed to value growth and focused on regular premium business. We saw steady improvement in business quality and operational efficiency. To be specific, the total written premium reached CNY 190 billion, down 01.6% year on year. Regular FYP amounted to CNY 30.7 billion, up 28%. The 13 months and the 25 months persistency ratio were 96.8% and 94.8% respectively. In terms of new business, our MBV for the first half of this year grew 12.7% to CNY 10.8 billion.

Speaker #1: And a total interim dividend amount of $4.04 billion, further enhancing investors' experience. Next, I'll talk about the performance of our life business, P&C business, and also asset management business.

Speaker #1: For the life business, we remain committed to value growth and are focused on regular premium business. We saw steady improvement in business quality and operational efficiency.

Speaker #1: To be specific, the written premium reached total written premium reached $190 billion, up a down 0.1.6% year on year. Regular FYP amounted to $30.7 billion, up 28%.

Speaker #1: And the 13-month and 25-month persistency ratios were 96.8% and 94.8%, respectively. In terms of new business, our MBV for the first half of this year grew 12.7% to RMB 10.8 billion.

Speaker #1: This was mainly driven by the agency channel. In terms of MBV margin, it improved by 2.5 percentage points year-on-year to 17.5%.

Yonggang Zhao: This was mainly driven by the agency channel. In terms of MBV margin, it improved by 2.5 percentage points year on year to 17.5%. On the agency channel, we strengthened the systematic capacity building, which includes conducting customer engagement under multiple scenarios and driving the upward shift in the customer mix, and also provide the differentiated insurance and the service solutions. We also try to build an agency sales force of professional, career-based, digital-savvy younger agents. To be specific, our monthly average agent headcount was 183,000. Our FYP per core agent and the monthly average FYC per agent both achieved double-digit growth. Our AI Plus strategy also played a positive role in supporting our agents. For example, we launched the Xiao Lan AI agent to empower our sales agents.

Speaker #1: On the agency channel, we strengthened the systematic capacity building which includes conducting customer engagement on the multiple scenarios and driving the upward shift in the customer mix and also provide differentiated insurance and service solutions and also try to build a agency sales force of professional career-based digital savvy younger agents.

Speaker #1: To be specific, our monthly average agent headcount was 183,000. Our FYP per core agent, as well as the monthly average FYC per agent, both achieved double-digit growth.

Speaker #1: Our AI Plus strategy also played a positive role in supporting our agents. For example, we launched the Xiaolan AI agent to empower our sales agents.

Speaker #1: Actually, the average number of agents using Xiaolan—those who use Xiaolan frequently—saw increases in the FYP per agent, FYC per agent, active ratio, and the average number of long-term policies.

Yonggang Zhao: Actually, the average number of agents using Xiao Lan was nearly 90,000, and those who use Xiao Lan frequently saw increases in the FYP per agent, FYC per agent, active ratio, and the average number of long-term policies. These indicators have all improved by double digits. For the bancassurance business, we strictly implemented regulatory requirement for consistency between filed and actual expenses. Also, we adhere to the value-oriented strategy. To be specific, our regular FYP growth from bank channel picked up quarter by quarter. The number of active bank outlets measured by RP business was nearly 5,000, up 4.9%. The average regular premium per active bank outlet reached nearly 300,000. We also have a Jianxiangjia, a health management program for bank channel customers. Actually, the number of requests from Jianxiangjia by mid-tier customers was above 10,000 in the first half of this year.

Speaker #1: Now, these indicators have all improved by double digits. For the bancassurance business, we strictly implemented regulatory requirements for consistency between filed and actual expenses.

Speaker #1: Also, we adhere to the value-oriented strategy. To be specific, our FYP, regular FYP growth from the bank channel, picked up quarter by quarter. Now, the number of active bank outlets measured by RP business was nearly 5,000, up 4.9%.

Speaker #1: And the average regular premium per active bank outlet reached nearly $300,000. We also have a Jianxiang Jia Health Management Program for bank channel customers.

Speaker #1: Actually, the number of requests from Jianxiang Jia by mid-tier customers was above 10,000 in the first half of this year. Pacific Care Home is also a brand for premium retirement community.

Yonggang Zhao: Pacific Care Home is also a brand for premium retirement community. It also helped to maintain customer relation from the bank channel. Nearly 30% of the total FYPs are generated by using this platform. The share of mid-tier customers and above increased by 6.6546 percentage points to 34.2%. The agency channel focused on mid-tier and high net wealth customers. In terms of product strategy, we continue to advance investment innovation in variable products. For example, the written premium for PAR business reached CNY 65 billion, up 76% year on year. The participating business as a share of total FYPs rose to 55.5%, which was up by more than 160% year on year. In terms of the strategy on the P&C side, we continue to support the national strategies.

Speaker #1: It also helped to maintain customer relations from the bank channel, and nearly 30% of total FYPs are generated by using this platform. The share of mid-tier customers and above increased by 6.65 percentage points to 34.2%.

Speaker #1: And the agency channel focused on mid-tier and high-net-worth customers. In terms of product strategy, we continue to advance investment innovation in variable products.

Speaker #1: For example, the written premium for PAR business reached ¥65 billion, up 76% year on year. The participating business as a share of total FYPs rose to 55.5%, which was up by more than 160% year on year.

Speaker #1: In terms of the strategy, on the PNC side, we continue to support national strategies. In the first half of this year, we achieved steady premium growth on top of optimization of the business mix.

Yonggang Zhao: In the H1 of this year, we achieved a steady premium growth, on top of optimization of business mix. To be specific, its direct written premium reached CNY 114 billion, up by 1.4% year on year. The premium growth for the Q2 was 3.6%, much better than the Q1. In terms of the auto insurance, because of the decline in new car sales in China, our DWPs from auto insurance was CNY 53 billion, up by 0.2% year on year. Non-auto DWPs was CNY 60.6 billion, up by 2.5% year on year. We continue to focus on quality and profitability to suggest an underwriting discipline and expense management. In the H1 of this year, the combined ratio of P&C was 95%, down by 1.3 percentage points, and of which the loss ratio was 68.7%, down by 0.8 percentage points.

Yonggang Zhao: In the H1 of this year, we achieved a steady premium growth, on top of optimization of business mix. To be specific, its direct written premium reached CNY 114 billion, up by 1.4% year on year. The premium growth for the Q2 was 3.6%, much better than the Q1. In terms of the auto insurance, because of the decline in new car sales in China, our DWPs from auto insurance was CNY 53 billion, up by 0.2% year on year. Non-auto DWPs was CNY 60.6 billion, up by 2.5% year-on-year. We continue to focus on quality and profitability to suggest an underwriting discipline and expense management. In the H1 of this year, the combined ratio of P&C was 95%, down by 1.3 percentage points, and of which the loss ratio was 68.7%, down by 0.8 percentage points.

Speaker #1: To be specific, its direct written premium reached 114 billion, up by 1.4% year on year. The premium growth for the second quarter was better than in the first quarter.

Speaker #1: In terms of auto insurance, because of the decline in new car sales in China, our DWP from auto insurance was RMB 53 billion, up by 0.2% year on year.

Speaker #1: Non-auto DWPs were 60.6 billion, up by 2.5% year on year. We continue to focus on quality and profitability to strengthen underwriting discipline and expense management.

Speaker #1: In the first half of this year, the combined ratio of P&C was 95%, down by 1.3 percentage points. Of this, the loss ratio was 60.87%, down by 0.8 percentage points.

Speaker #1: And the underwriting expense ratio was 26.3%, down by 0.5 percentage points. So you can see our underwriting profits grew by 35.7% year-on-year. In terms of our capacity building, we continue to make efforts in this regard.

Yonggang Zhao: The underwriting expense ratio was 26.3%, down by 0.5 PTs. So you can see our underwriting profits grew by 35.7% year on year. In terms of our capacity building, we continue to make efforts in this regard. As we mentioned, the underwriting combined ratio of auto insurance was 94.6%, down by 0.7 PTs, and the expense ratio improved by 0.7%. We continue to improve precise management so that our auto insurance renewal rate was 79.2%, 2 percentage points better year on year. We also continue to accelerate the development of new energy vehicle business. Its growth in the H1 of this year was 20.9%, and its total share, it was 23.9%, up by 0.1 percentage points year on year. In terms of business mix, we continue to improve business mix and advance the risk reduction system.

Speaker #1: As we mentioned, the underwriting combined ratio of auto insurance was 94.6%, down by 0.7 percentage points. The expense ratio improved by 0.7%. We continue to enhance precise management so that our auto insurance renewal rate was 79.2%, two percentage points better year-on-year.

Speaker #1: We also continue to accelerate the development of our new energy vehicle business. Its growth in the first half of this year was 20.9%, and its total share was 23.9%.

Speaker #1: Up by 0.1 percentage points year on year. In terms of business mix, we continue to improve business mix and advance the risk reduction system.

Speaker #1: For non-auto insurance, the combined ratio was 95.3%, improving by 2.3 percentage points. The top four non-auto business lines produced underwriting profitability. Health insurance and liability insurance maintained healthy growth.

Yonggang Zhao: For non-auto insurance, the combined ratio was 95.3%, improving by 2.3 percentage points, and the top 4 non-auto business lines produced underwriting profitability. Health insurance and the liability insurance maintain the healthy growth. To be specific, health insurance recorded CNY 17.1 billion in DWPs, up 10.4%, and the liability insurance recorded CNY 13.7 billion in DWPs, up by 6.6% year on year. The underwriting combined ratio improved by 0.4 percentage points year on year. In terms of asset management, we continue to adhere to the principle of value, long-term, prudent, and responsible investment, and strictly followed ALM requirements to improve our SAA, and we continue to refine our dumbbell-shaped asset allocation strategy. By the end of June this year, our AUM maintained a steady growth, and surpassing CNY 4 trillion for the first time.

Speaker #1: To be specific, health insurance recorded $17.1 billion in DWPs, up 10.4%. Liability insurance recorded $13.7 billion in DWPs, up by 6.6% year on year.

Speaker #1: And the underwriting combined ratio improved by 0.4 percentage points year on year. In terms of asset management, we continue to adhere to the principle of value-oriented, long-term, prudent, and responsible investment.

Speaker #1: And strictly followed ALM requirements to improve our SAA, and we continue to refine our dumbbell-shaped asset allocation strategy. By the end of June this year, our AUM maintained steady growth, surpassing 4 trillion yuan for the first time.

Speaker #1: Our investment assets include investment assets, which grew by 4.4%. And AUM grew by 6.3%. Of this, equity assets improved by 7%. The share of equity assets was 17.1%, up by 0.4 percentage points.

Yonggang Zhao: Our investment asset grew by 4.4%, and the AUM grew by 6.3%, and of this, the share of equity assets was 17.1%, up by 0.4 percentage points. The core equity investment was 13.9%, down by 0.5 percentage points. The debt financial assets stood at 71.4%, down by 1 percentage point. We continue to explore opportunities in alternative instruments such as REITs and ABS, and we continue to explore a new model for diversified asset and liability matching, centering on net investment yield plus. We continue to track the matching of liability costs and asset return across multiple levels based on life numbers, maturity investment yield on the new fixed income investment covered guaranteed interest rate on new policies.

Speaker #1: And the core equity investment was 13.9%, down by 0.5 percentage points. The debt financial assets stood at 71.4%, down by 1 percentage point.

Speaker #1: We continue to explore opportunities in alternative instruments such as risk and ABS. We are also continuing to explore a new model for diversified asset and liability matching.

Speaker #1: Centering on net investment yield plus, we continue to track the matching of liability costs and asset returns across multiple levels. Based on life numbers, the maturity investment yield on the new fixed income investment covers the guaranteed interest rate on new policies.

Speaker #1: The three-year average net investment yield covered the guaranteed interest rate, and the three-year average comprehensive investment yield covered the cost of liabilities, which helps us to maintain a reasonable safety margin in ALM.

Yonggang Zhao: The 3-year average net investment yield covered the guaranteed interest rate, and the 3-year average comprehensive investment yield covered the cost of the liabilities, which help us to maintain a reasonable safety margin in ALM. We also continue to optimize fixed-income asset portfolios and increase allocation to long-term government bond. Now, the average asset duration of our fixed-income investment reached 11.7 years. In the H1 of this year, we see a structural divergence for the capital market, and the long-term risk-free interest rates stayed at low levels. We proactively seized the structural investment opportunities and also maintained a margin of safety to manage the downward trends in a volatile market. The net total and the comprehensive investment yields were 1.5%, 2.4%, and 1.8% respectively. The market price of our dividend value equity portfolio experienced significant fluctuations, which led to a short-term pressure on our comprehensive investment yield.

Speaker #1: We also continue to optimize fixed income asset portfolios and increase allocation to long-term government bonds. Now, the average asset duration of our fixed income investments has reached 11.7 years.

Speaker #1: In the first half of this year, we saw a structural divergence in the capital market, and the long-term risk-free interest rate stayed at low levels.

Speaker #1: We proactively seized structural investment opportunities and also maintained a margin of safety to manage the downward trend in a volatile market. The net total and the comprehensive investment yields were 1.5%, 2.4%, and 1.8%, respectively.

Speaker #1: The market price of our dividend value equity portfolio experienced significant fluctuations, which led to short-term pressure on our comprehensive investment yield. But in the long run, we can navigate market cycles and maintain a comprehensive, competitive investment yield.

Yonggang Zhao: In the long run, we can navigate market cycles and maintain competitive comprehensive investment yield. In terms of credit risk management, our enterprise bond holdings and the financial bond holdings issued by non-government-sponsored banks maintain the high debt and the issuer credit ratings. Investments in non-public financing instruments as a share of total investments further declined. Well, that is the numbers and performance of our core business lines. To sum up, I would say the international market is quite complex and challenging. On the domestic side, China is also restructuring its economy. The government is also trying to improve social safety net and the people's livelihood, which will create more opportunity for the insurance industry. We will strive toward this vision of a top-tier insurance service conglomerate with market leadership, international competitiveness, and overall strength, and continue to create value for shareholders, customers, employees, and society.

Speaker #1: In terms of credit risk management, our enterprise bond holdings and the financial bond holdings issued by non-government-sponsored banks maintained high debt and issuer credit ratings.

Speaker #1: Investments in non-public financing instruments as a share of total investment further declined. Well, that is the numbers and performance of our core business lines.

Speaker #1: To sum up, I would say the international market is quite complex and challenging. On the domestic side, China is also restructuring its economy.

Speaker #1: The government is also trying to improve the social safety net and people's livelihood, which will create more opportunities for the insurance industry. We will strive toward this vision of a top-tier insurance service conglomerate with market leadership, international competitiveness, and overall strength.

Speaker #1: And continue to create value for shareholders, customers, employees, and society. We are going to further improve the quality and productivity of the agency channel, sharpen the competitiveness of the regular premium business in the bank channel, and, in terms of the P&C business, we will put profitability first.

Shaojun Su: We are going to further improve the quality and the productivity of the agency channel, sharpen the competitiveness of a regular premium business of bank channel. In terms of P&C business, we will put profitability first, continue to strengthen business quality control, improve catastrophe response mechanisms, and improve risk reduction, so as to have sustainable growth. In terms of risk management and asset management, we will uphold long-term thinking, persist in ALM, and seize investment opportunity to generate steady sustainable investment return. That concludes my presentation. Thank you. Well, thank you, Mr. Zhao, for your detailed presentation. Now we will open the floor to questions. Now you can also ask questions over the telephone, and also online. Please ask no more than two questions. First of all, we will have some questions on site. Thank you for the opportunity. I am from Guotai Junan Securities, Liu Xin.

Speaker #1: Continue to strengthen business quality and control, improve catastrophe response mechanisms, and enhance risk reduction, so as to achieve sustainable growth. In terms of risk management and asset management, we will uphold long-term thinking, persist in ALM, and seize investment opportunities to generate steady, sustainable investment returns.

Speaker #1: That concludes my presentation. Thank you. Well, thank you, Mr. Zhao, for your detailed presentation. Now we will open the floor to questions. You can also ask questions over the telephone and online.

[Company Representative] (CPIC): Well, thank you, Mr. Zhao, for your detailed presentation. Now we will open the floor to questions. Now you can also ask questions over the telephone, and also online. Please ask no more than two questions. First of all, we will have some questions on site.

Speaker #1: Please ask no more than two questions. First of all, we'll have some questions on site. Thank you for the opportunity. I'm from Guotai Haitong Securities, Liu Xinqi.

Liu Xin: Thank you for the opportunity. I am from Guotai Junan Securities, Liu Xin. First of all, congratulations on your steady performance. I have two questions on the liability side. First of all, about the new requirement from the regulators. Now, what is your NBV outlook? Because you see, for the H1 of this year, your NBV achieved double-digit growth. But what about July onwards? With Document 65 from the regulators, we saw some pressures on the market in terms of premium growth.

Speaker #1: First of all, congratulations on your steady performance. I have two questions on the liability side. First, regarding the new requirements from the regulators.

Liu Xin: First of all, congratulations on your steady performance. I have two questions on the liability side. First of all, about the new requirement from the regulators. Now, what is your NBV outlook? Because you see, for the H1 of this year, your NBV achieved double-digit growth. But what about July onwards? With Document 65 from the regulators, we saw some pressures on the market in terms of premium growth. So what is your NBV outlook for the H2 of this year and also for next year? Second question, regarding payment liability structure. Now, a lot of the insurance pay a lot attention to the growth of PAR life. Now, your share on PAR business is already 55%. We believe given the low interest rates, the too higher share of PAR life is not necessarily a good thing because sometimes you should utilize traditional insurance to secure low liability cost.

Speaker #1: Now, what's your MBV outlook? Because for the first half of this year, your MBV— I mean, MBV achieved double-digit growth.

Speaker #1: But what about July onwards? With Document 55 from the regulators? We saw some pressures on the market in terms of premium growth.

Speaker #1: So, what is your MBV outlook for the second half of this year, and also for next year? Second question, regarding payment liability structure: now, a lot of the insurers pay a lot of attention to the growth of, well, par life.

Liu Xin: So what is your NBV outlook for the H2 of this year and also for next year? Second question, regarding payment liability structure. Now, a lot of the insurance pay a lot attention to the growth of PAR life. Now, your share on PAR business is already 55%. We believe given the low interest rates, the too higher share of PAR life is not necessarily a good thing because sometimes you should utilize traditional insurance to secure low liability cost.

Speaker #1: Now, your share of par business is already 55%. We believe given the low interest rate, too high a share of par life is not necessarily a good thing.

Speaker #1: Because, in some cases, you should utilize traditional insurance to secure lower liability costs. So, what is your plan for your participating business?

Li Jinsong: Well, thank you for your question and your attention. Now, first of all, regarding your question on MBV. I believe, first of all, if we look at the H1 numbers, Mr. Zhao has given you a lot of numbers. In the first 6 months, I believe CPIC, our Q2 business was better than Q1. I believe CPIC is quite unique in this regard. Now, if we look at the going to pursue MBV growth from several areas. First of all, continue to improve customer segmentation. Secondly, improve product mix, product structure. For example, by promoting protection type of business. For example, this kind of long-term care products.

Speaker #1: Because if the customer prefers participating life, are you going to, how are you going to allocate and maintain the balance between par and the balance and the traditional business?

Speaker #1: Well, thank you for your question and your attention. Now, first of all, regarding your question on MBV—now, I believe, first of all, if we look at the first half numbers, Mr. Zhao has given you a lot of numbers.

Speaker #1: In the first six months, I believe CPIC—well, our second quarter business was better than the first quarter. I believe CPIC is quite unique in this regard.

Speaker #1: Now, if we look at going to pursue MBV growth from several areas. First of all, continue to improve customer segmentation. Secondly, improve product mix and product structure.

Speaker #1: For example, by promoting protection-type business, such as long-term care products. These products have become very popular in the market. On the other hand, we also improved the share of our participating insurance.

Li Jinsong: Well, these products grew very popular on the market. On the other hand, we also improve the share of our participating insurance, and also we focus on developing our team. First of all, our back office managers, for example, the building and the developing of these managers. Also on the front line, our agency team also is improving, for example, by becoming more professional, by becoming more digitally savvy, younger, et cetera. So our agency team is also improving. If you look at the bank channel, we are always improving, building this kind of a high-quality bank channel team so that we can have more opportunity for the bank business development. We also improve our refined development, refined management. We focus on value growth, we focus on efficiency, and also we promoted this kind of AI or digital empowerment.

Speaker #1: And also, we focus on developing our team. First of all, our, well, I mean, back office managers. For example, the building and development of these managers.

Speaker #1: And also on the front line, our agency team is improving as well. For example, by becoming more professional, more digitally savvy, younger, and so on.

Speaker #1: So our agency team is also improving. If we look at the bank channel, we are always improving—building this kind of high-quality bank channel team.

Speaker #1: So that we can have more opportunities for bank business development. We also improve our refined development—refined management. We focus on value growth.

Speaker #1: We focus on efficiency, and we also promote this kind of AI or digital empowerment. For example, the AI Plus strategy—it's a key priority project.

Li Jinsong: For example, the AI Plus strategy is a key priority project for CPIC. CPIC Life is actively promoting our AI digital strategy. For example, by improving our processes and procedures, and in terms of claims, settlement, underwriting. We are also adopting AI tools, improving the AI empowerment so that we can achieve further growth in value. Also we've strengthened our risk management and compliance management. So all these factors made it possible for us to grow for the 2 quarters of the H1 of this year. But of course, there are regulatory trends, regulatory changes. There are pressures for next year, for the H2 of this year. This is an issue for the whole industry. But on the whole, we are quite optimistic about our business perspective outlook.

Speaker #1: For CPIC, CPIC Life is actively promoting our AI digital strategy. For example, we are improving our processes and procedures. In terms of claims settlement and underwriting, we are also adopting AI tools and enhancing AI empowerment.

Speaker #1: So that we can achieve further growth in value, and also with Jensen, our risk management and compliance management. So all these factors made it possible for us to grow for the two quarters of the first half of this year.

Speaker #1: But of course, there are regulatory trends and regulatory changes. There are pressures for next year and for the second half of this year. This is an issue for the whole industry.

Speaker #1: But on the whole, we are quite optimistic about our business outlook. Now, first of all, in terms of the timing, if we look at the last three years, you see MBV grew quite fast for us.

Li Jinsong: Now, first of all, in terms of the timing, if we look at the last 3 years, you see NBV grew quite fast for us. These are all double-digit growth for the last 3 years. So we believe we are sustainable in terms of the timing, in terms of the pace of business, and also in terms of our strategies. We are quite balanced in terms of meeting customer needs and keeping up the seasonality or business pace. If we look at our team, currently, we still have room for improvement in these kind of tier 1 cities. In terms of bank channel, we focus more on tier 1 city rather than tier 3, tier 4 smaller cities. So bank channel strategy is different from the agency business. So they complement each other, I mean, the 2 channels.

Speaker #1: These are all double-digit growth figures for the last three years. So we believe we are sustainable in terms of the timing, in terms of the pace of business.

Speaker #1: And also, in terms of our strategies, we are quite balanced in terms of meeting customer needs and keeping up with the seasonality or business pace.

Speaker #1: And if we look at our team, we have currently, we focus we still have room for improvement in this kind of a tier one cities in terms of bank channel.

Speaker #1: We focus more on tier-one cities rather than, well, tier-three, tier-four, smaller cities. So, the bank channel strategy is different from the agency business.

Speaker #1: So they complement each other—I mean, the two channels. And in terms of the growth model, we, on the one hand, promote agency and the bank channel, and we also now are developing our worksite marketing.

Li Jinsong: In terms of the growth model, we on the one hand promote agency and the bank channel, and we also now are developing our work site marketing. I believe based on all these, although we have a quite high baseline, we are still optimistic. Secondly, in terms of the liability for CPIC Life, we actually set or anchor our liability cost based on our product. For example, we are promoting participating insurance since the H2 of last year, and we saw very good results. Going forward, how are we going to approach this? I believe as a big insurance company, first of all, we need to meet customer needs, and on top of that, we need to improve our liabilities.

Speaker #1: So I believe, based on all these, although we have quite a high baseline, we are still optimistic. And secondly, in terms of the liability for CPIC Life, we actually set or anchor our liability cost based on our product.

Speaker #1: For example, we have been promoting participating insurance since the second half of last year, and we have seen very good results. Going forward, how are we going to approach this?

Speaker #1: I believe that as a large insurance company, first of all, we need to meet customer needs. On top of that, we need to improve our liabilities.

Speaker #1: So, in the second half of this year, in terms of our product strategy for the agency channel, since we'll have more higher-end customers, we are going to promote whole life participating products and whole life incremental life.

Li Jinsong: In the H2 of this year, in terms of our product strategy for the agency channel, since we will have more higher-end customers, we are going to promote whole life participating products and whole life incremental life. For the H2 of the year, we are going to meet the different needs from different customer segments. While focusing on participating life, we are going to also balance it with traditional life. For example, also long-term care products will be launched. On the one hand, long-term care products will be combined with participating annuity. We are going to launch this kind of government tax-sponsored long-term care products. To better serve our customers, we are going to promote CPIC medical insurance, working together. CPIC Life and the Pacific Health Insurance Co., Ltd. working together to promote the CPIC Blue health insurance products to be sold via the agency channel.

Speaker #1: And so, for the second half of the year, we are going to meet the different needs of different customer segments. While focusing on participating life, we are also going to balance it with traditional life.

Speaker #1: For example, we will also launch long-term care products. On the one hand, long-term care products will be combined with participating annuities. And we are going to launch this kind of government tax-sponsored long-term care product.

Speaker #1: And to better serve our customers, we are going to promote CPIC medical insurance. Working together, I mean, CPIC Life and the CPIC Health working together to promote the CPIC Blue health insurance products.

Speaker #1: To be sold via the agency channel. For the bank channel, we are going to focus on value, focus on high-end customers, and participate in whole life incremental products.

Shaojun Su: For the bank channel, we are going to focus on value, focus on high-end customers, participating whole life incremental products, and also participating annuity products, so as to reduce our liability costs and better serve our customers. Thank you. Now, let's welcome the next question. Thank you. I am from Xun Ting. I am from Dongwu Securities. First of all, congratulations on your solid performance. Both on the life side and the P&C side, you improved your combined ratio by 1.3 PTs. I have two questions. Number one, as Yonggang Zhao mentioned, give us a lot of numbers on your performance. We are happy to see a lot of good numbers, but we still like to see what is your view on your performance so far this year? Also going forward, for the industry as a whole, what are the changes? How are you going to respond to these changes?

Li Jinsong: For the bank channel, we are going to focus on value, focus on high-end customers, participating whole life incremental products, and also participating annuity products, so as to reduce our liability costs and better serve our customers.

Speaker #1: And also, participating annuity products, so as to reduce our liability costs and better serve our customers. Thank you. Now, let's welcome the next question.

Shaojun Su: Thank you. Now, let's welcome the next question.

Speaker #1: Thank you. I’m Xuan Ting from Dongwu Securities. First of all, congratulations on your solid performance. Both on the life side and the P&C side, you improved your combined ratio by 1.3 percentage points.

Shaojun Su: Thank you. I am from Sun Ting. I am from Dongwu Securities. First of all, congratulations on your solid performance. Both on the life side and the P&C side, you improved your combined ratio by 1.3 PTs. I have two questions. Number one, as Yonggang Zhao mentioned, give us a lot of numbers on your performance. We are happy to see a lot of good numbers, but we still like to see what is your view on your performance so far this year? Also going forward, for the industry as a whole, what are the changes? How are you going to respond to these changes?

Speaker #1: I have two questions. Number one, as Mr. Zhao mentioned, you gave us a lot of numbers on your performance. We're happy to see a lot of good numbers.

Speaker #1: But we would still like to hear your view on your performance so far this year. And, going forward, for the industry as a whole, what are the changes, and how are you going to respond to these changes?

Speaker #1: And for the whole year, what's your annual targets? What's your view on the annual targets? Second question about the new regulatory rules—actually, on your slides, page 20, we don't see specific numbers on page 20.

Yonggang Zhao: For the whole year, what is your annual targets? What is your view on the annual targets? Second question about the new regulatory rules. Actually, on your slides, page 20 of your slides. We do not see specific numbers on page 20. In terms of the new regulatory KPIs, how are you coping? What is new indicators? How are you going to do in terms of the asset side and the liability side? Well, maybe I will answer your first question. Thank you for your attention. I would say in the H1 of this year, we continued to seek progress while maintaining stability. Guided by the 15th Five-Year Plan, we are actually delivering quite a stable improvement in our key KPIs. Our overall strength has also improved, especially given this kind of complicated environment. I believe we have demonstrated a lot of resilience.

Sun Ting: For the whole year, what is your annual targets? What is your view on the annual targets? Second question about the new regulatory rules. Actually, on your slides, page 20 of your slides. We do not see specific numbers on page 20. In terms of the new regulatory KPIs, how are you coping? What is new indicators? How are you going to do in terms of the asset side and the liability side?

Speaker #1: Now, in terms of the new regulatory KPIs, how are you coping? What are the new indicators? And how are you going to manage, in terms of the asset side and the liability side?

Speaker #1: Well, maybe I'll answer your first question. Thank you for your attention. Now, I would say that in the first half of this year, we continued to seek progress while maintaining stability.

Yonggang Zhao: Well, maybe I will answer your first question. Thank you for your attention. I would say in the H1 of this year, we continued to seek progress while maintaining stability. Guided by the 15th Five-Year Plan, we are actually delivering quite a stable improvement in our key KPIs. Our overall strength has also improved, especially given this kind of complicated environment. I believe we have demonstrated a lot of resilience.

Speaker #1: And guided by the 15th Year Plan, we are actually delivering quite stable improvement in our key KPIs. Our overall strength has also improved. Especially given this kind of complicated environment, I believe we have demonstrated a lot of resilience.

Speaker #1: Now, if you want me to comment on the performance so far, I would say we can see four features. Number one, our core business is stable.

Yonggang Zhao: Now, if you want me to comment on the performance so far, I would say we can see four features. Number one, our core business is stable. Secondly, we are seeing new momentum. Thirdly, we see better synergy, and fourthly, we see better technology empowerment. Now, for our core insurance business, we continue to focus on quality growth. As we mentioned, our life business, our regular premium growth was very good, up by 28% year-on-year. MBV margin also grew quite stably. Behind that, we would see this product mix and our customer mix also improved. Now, for the P&C business, our combined ratio improved, one of our best levels in recent years. Now standing at 95%. We also see new energy vehicle also give us quite a steady growth in terms of asset management business. Now, we are sticking to our long-term investment strategy.

Speaker #1: Secondly, we are seeing new we are seeing new momentum. And thirdly, we see better synergy and fourthly, we see better technology empowerment. Now, for our core insurance business, we continue to focus on quality growth.

Speaker #1: As we mentioned, our life business—our regular premium growth—was very good, up by 28% year on year. MBV and MBV margin also grew quite steadily.

Speaker #1: And behind that, we would see that our product mix and customer mix also improved. Now, for the P&C business, our combined ratio improved—one of our best levels in recent years.

Speaker #1: Now, standing at 95.95%. And we also see new energy vehicles also give us quite a steady growth. In terms of asset management business, now we are sticking to our long-term investment strategy.

Speaker #1: We focus a lot on SAA. We remain disciplined and resolute on our SAA, and paid a lot of attention to our ALM. So our investment performance was quite stable.

Yonggang Zhao: We focus a lot on SAA. We remain disciplined and remain resolute on our SAA, and paid a lot of attention to our ALM. So our investment performance was quite stable. Secondly, as we mentioned, we saw this kind of new growth momentum, new areas of growth. For example, we are actively promoting technology insurance, green insurance, and actually the premium income from technology insurance grew nearly 18% year-on-year. We also saw a lot of progress in terms of serving the new production force. Our green insurance premium reached nearly 40 billion CNY. In terms of the health insurance, we are also developing our presence, expanding our presence. Our commercial health insurance new premium grew by double digits. Also, we saw double digits for the coverage of government-mandated long-term care insurance.

Speaker #1: Now, secondly, as we mentioned, we are seeing this new growth momentum and new areas of growth. For example, we are actively promoting technology insurance and green insurance.

Speaker #1: Actually, the premium income from technology insurance grew nearly 18% year on year. We also saw a lot of progress in terms of serving the new production force.

Speaker #1: And our green insurance premium reached nearly 40 billion yuan. In terms of health insurance, we are also developing our presence, expanding our presence, and our commercial health insurance new premium.

Speaker #1: Grew by double digits. And also, we saw double digits for the coverage of government-mandated long-term care insurance. Our AUM in the first and second pillars of pension schemes exceeded RMB 1 trillion.

Yonggang Zhao: Our AUM in the first and the second pillar of pension schemes exceeded 1 trillion CNY. So that's the second point. Thirdly, better coordination and synergy. That is to say, to better develop this kind of cross-selling and synergy and coordination, we focus more on the customer orientation. For example, coordination between life and the P&C subsidiary, and also integration of products and services, and the asset and liability coordination. So this kind of synergy and coordination helped to generate a lot of good results. Of course, we also cultivated our strategic customers. We integrated our insurance service and investment sides, and we developed a series of strategic customers and major projects. You can see the number of multi-policy customers and the rate of cross-selling both rose steadily. Fourthly, we strengthened the technology empowerment to boost the quality and efficiency of our core business.

Speaker #1: So that's the second point. And thirdly, better coordination and synergy. That is to say, to better develop this kind of cross-selling and synergy and coordination with focus more on the customer orientation.

Speaker #1: For example, coordination between life and the P&C subsidiary, as well as integration of products and services, and asset and liability coordination. This kind of synergy and coordination helped to generate a lot of good results.

Speaker #1: And of course, we also cultivated our strategic customers. We integrated our insurance services and investment sides, and we developed a series of strategic customers.

Speaker #1: And major projects. You can see the number of multi-policy customers and the rate of cross-selling both rose steadily. Fourthly, we strengthened technology empowerment to boost the quality and efficiency of our core business.

Speaker #1: For example, we are actively promoting our AI plus strategy, as well as putting in place our vertical domain large models. We are happy to see the rollout of some key projects.

Yonggang Zhao: For example, we are actively promoting AI Plus strategy to put in place our vertical domain large models. We are happy to see the rollout of some of the key projects. For example, as I mentioned, for the life business, we launched the Xiao Lan agent, AI agent for our sales agent, for our life agents. We also launched projects to help P&C business to better manage its claims. Also, we paid a lot of attention to data security. We are the first in China to pass the Data Security Capacity Maturity Model, DSCM level 4 certification. So I would say, if we look at the H1 of this year, I believe these four points stood out. But of course, the industry is developing quite fast with a complicated backdrop. CPIC has maintained a stable growth. We are serving the real economy and the people's wellbeing.

Speaker #1: For example, as I mentioned, for the life business, we launched the Xiaolan Agent AI agent for our sales agent for our life agents. And we also launched a project to help P&C business to better manage its claims.

Speaker #1: And also, we paid a lot of attention to data security. We are the first in China to pass the Data Security Capacity Maturity Model (DSM) Level 4 certification.

Speaker #1: So I would say, if we look at the first half of this year, I believe these four points stood out. But of course, the industry is developing quite fast with a complicated backdrop.

Speaker #1: CPIC has maintained stable growth. We are serving the real economy and the people's well-being. Given this, we do see some opportunities. For example, for the life business, we believe our life products have become a very important tool for people for household wealth allocation.

Yonggang Zhao: Given this, we do see some opportunities. For example, for life business, we believe our life products has become a very important tool for people, for household wealth allocation. For example, variable insurance sold very well, and this also improved the company's liability cost. Well, for auto insurance, new energy vehicle insurance supported our premium growth. This development of a new productive force and the green transition reinforced our role as an economic shock absorber and a social stabilizer. On the investment side, structural divergence in the equity market increased the volatility. It will have a notable impact on our profits. On the regulatory front, tight supervision continued. Well, it is guiding the industry towards long-term, healthy, and high-quality development. For the H2 of this year, CPIC will continue to pursue high-quality growth. We need to focus on three areas.

Speaker #1: For example, variable insurance sold very well, and this also improved the company's liability cost. Now, for auto insurance, new energy vehicle insurance was supported.

Speaker #1: Premium growth. And this development of a new productive force and the green transition reinforced our role as an economic shock absorber and social stabilizer.

Speaker #1: On the investment side, structural divergence in the equity market increased volatility. It will have a notable impact on our profits. On the regulatory front, tight supervision continued.

Speaker #1: Well, it is guiding the industry towards long-term, healthy, and high-quality development. For the second half of this year, CPIC will continue to pursue high-quality growth.

Speaker #1: We need to focus on three areas. Number one, we need to serve China's 15th Five-Year Plan and seize new opportunities. For example, we need to align ourselves with the government's major strategies and also the development of industries—for example, technological innovation, green development, and shipping safety, etc.

Yonggang Zhao: Number one, we need to serve China's 15th Five-Year Plan and seize new opportunities. For example, we need to align ourselves with the government's big strategies and also the development of the industries. For example, the technology innovation, green development, and shipping safety, et cetera. On the other hand, we also need to focus on areas, for example, health and elderly care for the key population groups, so that we can uncover opportunities in new fields and new models. Secondly, we need to focus on improving the quality and the efficiency of our insurance business. For the life side, we need to coordinate product and the channel strategy, accelerate a breakthrough in key areas, and improve customer segmentation to drive sustained value growth, and also improve high quality sales force and diversify profit sources.

Speaker #1: On the other hand, we also need to focus on areas, for example, health and elderly care for the key population groups, so that we can uncover opportunities in new fields.

Speaker #1: And new models. Secondly, we need to focus on improving the quality and the efficiency of our business insurance business. For the life business, for the life side, we need to coordinate product and the channel strategy accelerate a breakthrough in key areas and improve customer segmentation.

Speaker #1: To drive sustainable, sustained value growth and also improve the high-quality sales force and diversify profit sources, for the P&C business, we need to consolidate our business base and seize opportunities in key areas.

Yonggang Zhao: For the P&C business, we need to consolidate our business base and seize opportunities in key areas. For example, this kind of new areas. On the investment side, we need to improve long-term mechanism for asset liability coordination and better respond to, for example, regulatory rules, new rules. Strengthen our investment research, diversify asset allocation strategy, so as to deliver stable and sustainable returns. Thirdly, we should also advance our three core strategies or priorities and build core competitiveness. For example, our big healthcare strategy. We need to improve product innovation and the model optimization. In terms of internationalization strategy, we should focus on improving overseas capability and strengthen our Hong Kong operations. For the AI Plus strategy, we should accelerate the R&D and large scale deployment of high-value AI applications. You see, this can speed up digital intelligence transformation and also help to empower our business.

Speaker #1: For example, in these kinds of new areas and on the investment side, we need to improve the long-term mechanism for asset-liability coordination, and better respond to, for example, regulatory rules, new rules, strengthen our investment research, and diversify asset allocation strategy.

Speaker #1: So as to deliver stable and sustainable returns. And thirdly, we should also advance our three core strategies or priorities and build core competitiveness—for example, our big healthcare strategy.

Speaker #1: We need to improve product innovation and model optimization. In terms of internationalization strategy, we should focus on improving our overseas capabilities and strengthening our Hong Kong operations.

Speaker #1: For the AI+ strategy, we should accelerate the R&D and large-scale deployment of high-value AI applications. This, you see, can speed up digital intelligence transformation.

Speaker #1: And also help to empower our business. To sum up, I would say we should remain committed to these principles. We should pursue higher quality, better resilience, a more solid foundation, and more breakthroughs.

Yonggang Zhao: To sum up, I would say we should remain committed to these principles. We should pursue higher quality, better resilience, more solid foundation, and more breakthroughs for our business so as to better meet our annual targets. Thank you. Thank you. I'll answer your second question. Maybe I will just add a little bit. The new rules on AI asset liability for insurance business received a lot of attention. I would say, well, it will have a very profound impact on insurance business, asset allocation, asset management. This new regulatory document is like a combination of previous rules. It's now very comprehensive. I would say we should focus on four areas, because first of all, we focus on the governance of insurance companies. Secondly, it enhances the quantitative indicators. Thirdly, it broadens the evaluation horizon.

Speaker #1: For our business, so as to better meet our annual targets. Thank you. Thank you. I'll answer your second question, and maybe I will just add a little bit.

[Company Representative] (CPIC): Thank you. I'll answer your second question. Maybe I will just add a little bit. The new rules on AI asset liability for insurance business received a lot of attention. I would say, well, it will have a very profound impact on insurance business, asset allocation, asset management. This new regulatory document is like a combination of previous rules. It's now very comprehensive. I would say we should focus on four areas, because first of all, we focus on the governance of insurance companies. Secondly, it enhances the quantitative indicators. Thirdly, it broadens the evaluation horizon.

Speaker #1: Now, the new rules on AI asset liability for the insurance business received a lot of attention. I would say, well, they will have a very profound impact.

Speaker #1: On insurance business, asset allocation, and asset management, this new regulatory document is like a combination of previous rules. It's not very comprehensive. I would say we should focus on four areas.

Speaker #1: Because, first of all, it focused on the governance of insurance companies. Secondly, it enhances the quantitative indicators. And thirdly, it broadens the evaluation horizon.

Speaker #1: Now, actually, before the document was officially released, we had already been making preparations for the forthcoming rules. For example, we studied the preliminary documents. We have participated in relevant seminars and studies for the industry.

Shaojun Su: Now, actually, before the document officially released, we have been actually making preparations for the forthcoming rules. For example, we studied the preliminary documents, we have been a participant of relevant seminars and the studies for the industry. We are also trying to revise relevant data reporting mechanism so as to meet the new requirements. Now, given this kind of regulatory indicators and monitoring indicators, I would say life and P&C, both are doing quite well. For example, for P&C traditional account, our coverage ratio was 115%. For life business, the interest rate hedging ratio is more than 80%. Other indicators, we also scored quite well. So if we look at these indicators, if you want to see the future performance of CPIC, you can look at the stress testing. You can look at the metrics parameters.

[Company Representative] (CPIC): Now, actually, before the document officially released, we have been actually making preparations for the forthcoming rules. For example, we studied the preliminary documents, we have been a participant of relevant seminars and the studies for the industry. We are also trying to revise relevant data reporting mechanism so as to meet the new requirements. Now, given this kind of regulatory indicators and monitoring indicators, I would say life and P&C, both are doing quite well. For example, for P&C traditional account, our coverage ratio was 115%. For life business, the interest rate hedging ratio is more than 80%. Other indicators, we also scored quite well. So if we look at these indicators, if you want to see the future performance of CPIC, you can look at the stress testing. You can look at the metrics parameters.

Speaker #1: And we are also trying to revise the relevant data reporting mechanisms so as to meet the new requirements. Now, given these kinds of regulatory indicators and monitoring indicators, I would say both Life and P&C are doing quite well.

Speaker #1: For example, for P&C traditional accounts, our coverage ratio was 115%. And for the life business, the interest rate hedging ratio is more than 80%.

Speaker #1: And on other indicators, we also scored quite well. So if we look at these indicators, if you want to see the future performance of CPIC, you can look at the stress testing.

Speaker #1: You can look at the metrics parameters, for example, during the stress testing, equity asset reduction—we are looking at one year to three years. I believe that that's a tall order.

Shaojun Su: For example, during the stress testing equity asset reduction, we are for 1 year to 3 years. I believe that's a tall order. For CPIC, our SAA strategy is already aligned with regulatory requirements. So I believe these indicators will be more under control going forward, especially for the life business. For the liability side, you can see it's very diversified. Also on the asset side, China's interest rate is going downwards. So we have long been discussing or studying this. Now, for example, we have come up with a net investment yield plus strategy. Because the life business has very long liabilities, very long fixed liabilities, so we need to take a holistic approach. We need to consider a lot of factors so that we can come up with more refined, more consolidated tools, platforms, so as to better coordinate asset and liability matching.

[Company Representative] (CPIC): For example, during the stress testing equity asset reduction, we are for 1 year to 3 years. I believe that's a tall order. For CPIC, our SAA strategy is already aligned with regulatory requirements. So I believe these indicators will be more under control going forward, especially for the life business. For the liability side, you can see it's very diversified. Also on the asset side, China's interest rate is going downwards. So we have long been discussing or studying this. Now, for example, we have come up with a net investment yield plus strategy. Because the life business has very long liabilities, very long fixed liabilities, so we need to take a holistic approach. We need to consider a lot of factors so that we can come up with more refined, more consolidated tools, platforms, so as to better coordinate asset and liability matching.

Speaker #1: But for CPIC, our SAA strategy is already aligned with regulatory requirements, so I believe these indicators will be more under control going forward. Especially for the life business, on the liability side you can see it's very diversified.

Speaker #1: And also, on the asset side, China's interest rate is going downwards. So we have long been discussing or studying this. Now, for example, we have come up with a net investment yield plus strategy.

Speaker #1: Now, because the life business has very long fixed liabilities, we need to take a holistic approach. We need to consider a lot of factors.

Speaker #1: So that we can come up with more refined, more consolidated tools and platforms to better coordinate asset and liability matching, we believe we should start from the product.

Shaojun Su: We believe we should start from product. We should anchor against the liability and drive asset allocation on top of that. So for SAA, we need to be prudent, we need to be resolute. We need to have diversification and differentiation. For TAA, we need to be more dynamic so as to cope with the rapid changes of the market. We need to be disciplined. We need to be controllable so that the long-term investment yield can better cover our liability costs. In terms of fixed income, we will remain more timely to seize very fast these allocation opportunities so that our interest bond can give us good results. We'll also look at the opportunities, these kind of new emerging opportunities, alternative opportunities.

[Company Representative] (CPIC): We believe we should start from product. We should anchor against the liability and drive asset allocation on top of that. So for SAA, we need to be prudent, we need to be resolute. We need to have diversification and differentiation. For TAA, we need to be more dynamic so as to cope with the rapid changes of the market. We need to be disciplined. We need to be controllable so that the long-term investment yield can better cover our liability costs. In terms of fixed income, we will remain more timely to seize very fast these allocation opportunities so that our interest bond can give us good results. We'll also look at the opportunities, these kind of new emerging opportunities, alternative opportunities.

Speaker #1: We should anchor against the liability and drive asset allocation on top of that. So, for SAA, we need to be prudent. We need to be resolute.

Speaker #1: We need to have diversification and differentiation. For TAA, we need to be more dynamic to cope with the rapid changes in the market.

Speaker #1: We need to be disciplined. We need to be controllable so that the long-term investment yield can better cover our liability costs. In terms of fixed income, we will remain timely to seize allocation opportunities very quickly so that our interest bonds can give us good results.

Speaker #1: And we'll also look at these kinds of new, emerging, alternative opportunities. We need to consider the valuation and market structure so as to adjust our allocations.

Shaojun Su: We need to consider the valuation and the market structure so as to adjust our allocations, so that we can improve our long-term returns, and also improve our multiple manager approach. Of course, we will further improve alternative investment in terms of equity investment and other kinds of alternative investment. On the whole, based on the new ALM requirements, we are going to improve our internal structure, internal organization with adjusted APIs, evaluation mechanism, et cetera, so that we can meet new regulatory rules. Thank you. Let's welcome the next question. Thank you. I'm Daniel Yi from Securities Newspaper. Now, for the first time, you have interim dividend. So what are the factors you considered, and what's the overall yearly outlook? Do you have any future plans? Thank you.

[Company Representative] (CPIC): We need to consider the valuation and the market structure so as to adjust our allocations, so that we can improve our long-term returns, and also improve our multiple manager approach. Of course, we will further improve alternative investment in terms of equity investment and other kinds of alternative investment. On the whole, based on the new ALM requirements, we are going to improve our internal structure, internal organization with adjusted APIs, evaluation mechanism, et cetera, so that we can meet new regulatory rules.

Speaker #1: So that we can improve our long-term return, and also improve our multiple manager approach. Of course, we will further improve in alternative investment, in terms of equity investment and other kinds of alternative investment.

Speaker #1: On the whole, based on the new ALM requirements, we are going to improve our internal structure and organization with adjusted APIs and evaluation mechanisms, etc.

Speaker #1: So that we can meet new regulatory rules. Thank you. Let's welcome the next question. Thank you. Deng Xiaoyi from Securities Newspaper. Now, for the first time, you have an interim dividend.

Shaojun Su: Thank you. Let's welcome the next question.

Daniel Yi: Thank you. I'm Daniel Yi from Securities Newspaper. Now, for the first time, you have interim dividend. So what are the factors you considered, and what's the overall yearly outlook? Do you have any future plans? Thank you.

Speaker #1: So, what are the factors you considered? And what's the overall yearly outlook? And do you have any future plans? Thank you. Now, as you see, this year we optimized the structure of dividend payout.

Shaojun Su: Now, as you see, this year, we optimized the structure of the dividend payout and launched for the first time the interim dividend. We want to make it long-term, so that we can improve the cash return for our investors and improve their experience. Now, interim dividend is a very important part of our annual dividend payout. We anchor against OPAT and also consider this kind of solvency ratio and also the needs of investors so as to decide a ratio between interim dividend and year-end dividend. For example, this time we are going to pay out CNY 0.42 per share. So if we calculate by OPAT, the ratio is 19%. Now, this ratio is comparable against peers. If we calculate by net profit, then the dividend rate is 13.1%. Now, this number is higher than most of our peers.

[Company Representative] (CPIC): Now, as you see, this year, we optimized the structure of the dividend payout and launched for the first time the interim dividend. We want to make it long-term, so that we can improve the cash return for our investors and improve their experience. Now, interim dividend is a very important part of our annual dividend payout. We anchor against OPAT and also consider this kind of solvency ratio and also the needs of investors so as to decide a ratio between interim dividend and year-end dividend. For example, this time we are going to pay out CNY 0.42 per share. So if we calculate by OPAT, the ratio is 19%. Now, this ratio is comparable against peers. If we calculate by net profit, then the dividend rate is 13.1%. Now, this number is higher than most of our peers.

Speaker #1: And we launched, for the first time, the interim dividend. We want to make it long-term, so that we can improve the cash return for our investors and enhance their experience.

Speaker #1: Now, interim dividend is a very important part of our annual dividend payout. We anchor against OPAT and also consider this kind of solvency ratio and also the needs of investors.

Speaker #1: So as to decide on a ratio between the interim dividend and year-end dividend. For example, this time we're going to pay out RMB 0.42 per share.

Speaker #1: So, if we calculate by OPAT, the ratio is 19%. Now, this ratio is comparable against peers. But if we calculate by net profit, then the dividend rate is 13.1%.

Speaker #1: Now, this number is higher than most of our peers. Regarding the total year dividend, first of all, our long-term and mid-term dividend payout policy is quite stable.

Shaojun Su: Regarding the total year dividend, first of all, our long-term and midterm dividend payout policy is quite stable. That is to say, we look at our OPAT, we look at our solvency, we look at our business. Secondly, life CSM and spread and the P&C profitability are key factors for our dividend payout. I believe these factors will continue to grow stably going forward. So I believe we pay a lot of attention to return to investors. We are confident we can deliver a stable long-term foreseeable return to our investors. Thank you. Well, let's continue the questions. Thank you for the opportunity. I'm Ge Yunxiang from Zhonghai Securities. Two questions. Number one, the issue of aging. Some other insurance companies are making inroads into elderly care products. So what's your efforts in the retirement elderly care area?

[Company Representative] (CPIC): Regarding the total year dividend, first of all, our long-term and midterm dividend payout policy is quite stable. That is to say, we look at our OPAT, we look at our solvency, we look at our business. Secondly, life CSM and spread and the P&C profitability are key factors for our dividend payout. I believe these factors will continue to grow stably going forward. So I believe we pay a lot of attention to return to investors. We are confident we can deliver a stable long-term foreseeable return to our investors. Thank you.

Speaker #1: That is to say, we look at our OPAT, we look at our solvency, we look at our business. Secondly, now, life CSM and spread, and P&C profitability.

Speaker #1: Our key factors for our dividend payout—I believe these factors will continue to grow stably going forward. So, I believe we pay a lot of attention to return, to customers, to investors.

Speaker #1: We are confident we can deliver stable, long-term, and foreseeable returns to our investors. Thank you. Let's continue with the questions. Thank you for the opportunity.

Shaojun Su: Well, let's continue the questions.

Ge Yunxiang: Thank you for the opportunity. I'm Ge Yunxiang from Zhonghai Securities. Two questions. Number one, the issue of aging. Some other insurance companies are making inroads into elderly care products. So what's your efforts in the retirement elderly care area?

Speaker #1: I'm Gu Yunxiang from Zhonghai Securities. Now, two questions. Number one, the issue of aging. Some other insurance companies are making inroads into elderly care.

Speaker #1: Products. So, what are your efforts in the retirement and elderly care area? And second question, on the financial numbers: we can see that your income tax is going down for the first quarter.

Yonggang Zhao: And second question, on the financial numbers, we can see your income tax is going down for the first quarter. Now, this is particularly evident for the life business. So could you tell me something about the reason for a reduction in income tax? Well, thank you for your question. To answer your first question regarding the population aging and our response, as you mentioned, as China's population ages, China is also promoting a health strategy. And the people in China are having more and more higher requirements for retirement and elderly care services. Now, these present us with more opportunities. For CPIC, I would say we are quite consistent in our big health strategy. For example, more than five years ago, we launched the big health strategy, and now we upgraded it to the big health and wellness strategy.

Ge Yunxiang: And second question, on the financial numbers, we can see your income tax is going down for the first quarter. Now, this is particularly evident for the life business. So could you tell me something about the reason for a reduction in income tax?

Speaker #1: Now, this is particularly evident for the life business. So, could you tell me something about the reason for the reduction in income tax? Well, thank you for your question.

Yonggang Zhao: Well, thank you for your question. To answer your first question regarding the population aging and our response, as you mentioned, as China's population ages, China is also promoting a health strategy. And the people in China are having more and more higher requirements for retirement and elderly care services. Now, these present us with more opportunities. For CPIC, I would say we are quite consistent in our big health strategy. For example, more than five years ago, we launched the big health strategy, and now we upgraded it to the big health and wellness strategy.

Speaker #1: Now, to answer your first question regarding population aging and our response, as you mentioned, as China’s population ages, China is also promoting a health strategy.

Speaker #1: And the people in China are having higher and higher requirements for retirement and elderly care services. Now, these present us with more opportunities for CPIC. I would say we are quite consistent in our big health strategy.

Speaker #1: For example, more than five years ago, we launched the Big Health strategy. And now, we have upgraded it to the Big Health and Wellness strategy.

Speaker #1: And we are actually making it one of our top three strategies. In terms of the targets for this strategy, I would say we need to build an integrated health and wellness ecosystem, and strengthen the synergy between insurance, investment, and wellness service.

Yonggang Zhao: And we are actually making it one of our top three strategies. In terms of the targets for this strategy, I would say we need to build an integrated health and wellness ecosystem, strengthen the synergy between insurance, investment, and wellness service, and promote joint growth scenario integration, and vary co-creation. So this is the key target for our health and wellness strategy. If we look at the first half of this year, I would say we have made some progress in line with our expectation. We continue to enhance top-level design, coordinated management, and talent management at each level. For example, we have trained our people, we have built relevant mechanism. I would say our health and wellness strategy has saw very good results, and also it has brought very positive impact on our insurance business. I would say we have made three big moves.

Speaker #1: And promote joint growth, scenario integration, and value co-creation. So this is the key target for our health and wellness strategy. If we look at the first half of this year, I would say we have made some progress in line with our expectations.

Speaker #1: We continue to enhance top-level design, coordinated management, and talent management. At each level, for example, we have trained our people. We have built relevant mechanisms.

Speaker #1: I would say our health and wellness strategy has shown very good results. Also, it has brought a very positive impact on our insurance business.

Speaker #1: I would say we have made three big moves. Number one, in terms of promoting the coordination between health insurance and pension business. For example, we accelerated product innovation and iteration for health insurance.

Yonggang Zhao: Number 1, in terms of promoting the coordination between health insurance and pension business. For example, we accelerated product innovation and iteration for health insurance. Our premium for commercial health insurance policy grew by 16% year on year. The number of people covered by government-mandated long-term care insurance increased greatly. We also seized opportunities from new health insurance regulations and are developing products such as individual account medical insurance, and participating health insurance. In terms of pension business, we made arrangements across the three pillars of pension with a focus on enhancing pension investment returns. For example, the cumulative returns of Changjiang Pension's single fixed income portfolios, single equity-linked portfolios, and collective fixed income portfolios have all ranked among the top in the market.

Speaker #1: Our premium for commercial health insurance policies grew by 16% year-on-year. The number of people covered by government-mandated long-term care insurance increased greatly.

Speaker #1: We also seized opportunities from new health insurance regulations and are developing products such as individual account medical insurance and participating health insurance. In terms of the pension business, we made arrangements across the three pillars of pension.

Speaker #1: With a focus on enhancing pension investment returns. For example, the cumulative returns of Changjiang Pension's single fixed income portfolios, single equity-linked portfolios, and collective fixed income portfolios have all ranked among the top in the market.

Speaker #1: And also, we are happy to see that the asset under management for the second quarter for the second pillar enterprise annuity surpassed RMB 1 trillion for the first time.

Yonggang Zhao: We are happy to see that the asset under management for the second quarter, for the second pillar, enterprise annuity surpassed CNY 1 trillion for the first time. The second breakthrough was in terms of elderly care and rehabilitation. For example, our CPIC Home, that is our premium retirement community. Now we have 14 of them in operation. We have more than 3,500 long-term residents, and nearly 350 of those residents are suffering from dementia. We are also making progress in terms of light asset projects. We also have this kind of a Bai Shui Ju program. By leveraging this Bai Shui Ju program, we can have smart service devices for data collection and management. To date, it has served over 100,000 customers. We also have built a direct billing medical network across China, which now covered 1,210 medical vendors.

Speaker #1: The second breakthrough was in terms of elderly care and rehabilitation. For example, our CPIC Home, which is our premium retirement community—now we have 14 of them in operation.

Speaker #1: We have more than 3,500 long-term residents, and nearly 350 of those residents are suffering from dementia. We are also actually making progress in terms of light asset projects.

Speaker #1: We also have this kind of Baishui Ju program. By leveraging this Baishui Ju program, we can have smart service devices for data collection and management.

Speaker #1: Today, it has served over 100,000 customers. We have also built a direct billing medical network across China, which now covers 1,210 medical vendors.

Speaker #1: And this covered 83 of the top 100 hospitals on the Fudan China Hospital list. The Guangxi CPIC International Hospital Alliance has now grown to 158 member institutions.

Yonggang Zhao: This covered 83 of the top 100 hospitals on the Fudan China hospital list. The Guangxi CPIC International Hospital Alliance has now grown to 158 member institutions. The third breakthrough is for the integration between insurance and the service to boost the business and wellness ecosystem. CPIC Life leveraged the elderly care community to enhance high net wealth customer development. For example, for the H1 of this year, the number of high net wealth life insurance customers driven by the retirement program increased by 37% year on year. For the P&C side, by utilizing the wellness ecosystem strength, our CPIC P&C improved the auto insurance claim service. It helped to improve customer experience and also reduced the average claims payout. For CPIC Health, we utilize the Yi Pei Tong, that is a one-stop medical treatment claims solution.

Speaker #1: And the third breakthrough is in the integration between insurance and service, to boost the business and wellness ecosystem. CPIC Life leveraged elderly care communities to enhance high net worth customer development.

Speaker #1: For example, in the first half of this year, the number of high net wealth life insurance customers driven by the retirement program increased by 37% year-on-year.

Speaker #1: For the PNC side, by utilizing the wellness ecosystem strengths, our CPIC PNC improved auto insurance claim service. It helped to improve customer experience and also reduced the average claims payout.

Speaker #1: For CPIC Health, we utilize the e-Pay Tone, which is a one-stop medical treatment claims solution. To date, the e-Pay Tone has served more than 750 enterprises and 6,010,000 users.

Yonggang Zhao: To date, the Yi Pei Tong has served more than 750 enterprises and 610,000 users. Now, I would say for the H1 of this year, we have improved the quality of our health and wellness strategy. We can see this also empowered our business. In the H2 of this year, we need to deepen the integration. We need to implement our three top project strategies to deepen the integration of health and wellness service, so as to better enable two-way empowerment between services and the core business, so as to better serve our business and also our customers. Thank you. Now let me continue to answer your question on the income tax. Of course, yes, our income tax actually declined. This is mainly because of a decline in life business. Two reasons for that.

Speaker #1: Now, I would say that for the first half of this year, we have improved the quality of our health and wellness strategy. Also, we can see that this has empowered our business.

Speaker #1: In the second half of this year, we need to deepen the integration we need to implement our three top projects strategies. To deepen the integration of health and wellness service so as to better enable two-way empowerment between services and the core business.

Speaker #1: So as to better serve our business and also our customers. Thank you. Now, let me continue to answer your question on the income tax.

[Company Representative] (CPIC): Now let me continue to answer your question on the income tax. Of course, yes, our income tax actually declined. This is mainly because of a decline in life business. Two reasons for that. Number one is in previous years, for the life business, it remained prudent in terms of accounting judgment. Because of that, actually, it does not record deferred income reduction. Now the government has confirmed that we should adopt the new standards, so that using the new standards, actually, we can claim full confirmation for deferred income tax.

Speaker #1: Now, of course, yes, our income tax actually declined. This is mainly because of a decline in life business. Two reasons for that: Number one, in previous years, for the life business, we remained prudent in terms of accounting judgment.

Shaojun Su: Number one is in previous years, for the life business, it remained prudent in terms of accounting judgment. Because of that, actually, it does not record deferred income reduction. Now the government has confirmed that we should adopt the new standards, so that using the new standards, actually, we can claim full confirmation for deferred income tax. Going forward, on the other hand, the company is making investment into government bonds, long-term bonds. These also add to tax deductibles. Thank you. Thank you. Let's welcome the next question over the phone. If you want to ask questions via the telephone, please press star one to queue, and then ask the question. After confirmation, please identify yourself and your employer before you ask questions. Please ask no more than two questions. Now we have a question from Mr. Zhouchun from Credit Suisse. Well, thank you.

Speaker #1: So because of that, actually, it does not record deferred income reduction. But now, the government has confirmed that we should adopt the new standards.

Speaker #1: So that using the new standards, actually, we can claim full confirmation for deferred income tax. So, going forward, on the other hand, the government and the company are making investments into government bonds.

[Company Representative] (CPIC): Going forward, on the other hand, the company is making investment into government bonds, long-term bonds. These also add to tax deductibles. Thank you.

Speaker #1: Long-term bonds. So these also add to tax deductibles. Thank you. Thank you. Let's welcome the next question, over the phone.

Shaojun Su: Thank you. Let's welcome the next question over the phone. If you want to ask questions via the telephone, please press star one to queue, and then ask the question. After confirmation, please identify yourself and your employer before you ask questions. Please ask no more than two questions. Now we have a question from Mr. Zhouchun from Credit Suisse. Well, thank you.

Speaker #2: Over half of the life includes 101.

Speaker #1: If you want to ask questions, via the telephone, please press star one to queue. And then ask a question after confirmation. Please identify yourself and your employer before you ask questions.

Speaker #1: Please ask no more than two questions. Now, we have someone from— we have a question from Mr. Jotun from Credit Suisse. Well, thank you.

Speaker #1: I'm from UBS. Thank you, and congratulations on your good performance. My first question is about investment. We see the market is quite divergent.

[Analyst] (UBS): From UBS. Thank you and congratulations on your good performance. Number one question is about the investment. Now we see the market is quite divergent for the H1. And you demonstrated resilience. Could you tell me something about the market? For example, the Q3 or so far, the Q3, what's your investment performance? What about this kind of high dividend stocks and growth shares? What's your view on that, for example, this kind of growth shares, tech, technology shares, for example? Second question. Your actual numbers were better than expected in terms of growth. For example, OPAT. Could you tell me something about, previously you have been surpassing your guideline guidance. OPAT, could you tell me more about the OPAT, for example, by life, by P&C, and what's your overview or what's your outview for OPAT?

[Analyst]: From UBS. Thank you and congratulations on your good performance. Number one question is about the investment. Now we see the market is quite divergent for the H1. And you demonstrated resilience. Could you tell me something about the market? For example, the Q3 or so far, the Q3, what's your investment performance? What about this kind of high dividend stocks and growth shares? What's your view on that, for example, this kind of growth shares, tech, technology shares, for example? Second question. Your actual numbers were better than expected in terms of growth. For example, OPAT. Could you tell me something about, previously you have been surpassing your guideline guidance. OPAT, could you tell me more about the OPAT, for example, by life, by P&C, and what's your overview or what's your outview for OPAT?

Speaker #1: For the first half, you demonstrated resilience. Now, could you tell me something about the market? For example, in the third quarter or so far in Q3, what has your investment performance been?

Speaker #1: And what about these kinds of high-dividend stocks and growth shares? So what's your view on that? For example, these kinds of growth shares.

Speaker #1: Tech technology shares, for example. Second question. You see you're actual numbers were better than expected. In terms of growth. For example, OPAT. Now, could you tell me something about I mean, previously, you have been surpassing your guideline guidance.

Speaker #1: Now, OPAT, could you tell me more about the OPAT? For example, by Life, by PNC, and what's your overview? What's your outlook for OPAT?

Speaker #1: Now, maybe let me answer your questions. And you actually asked quite a lot of questions. Now, of course, you'll see investment yield is a very important topic for us.

Shaojun Su: Maybe let me answer your questions. You asked actually quite a lot of questions. Of course, you'll see investment yield is a very important topic for us because it will impact on our net profit. CPIC pays a lot of attention to our investment yield. For the H1 of this year, our investment yield. Maybe I'll give you some background. Now we look at the net, total, and the comprehensive investment yields. For the net yield, I would say is within our expectation. It was down by 0.2 PTs. It was because of a lot of factors. It's not unexpected. For example, maturing of previously high-yielding assets, et cetera. But we manage reinvestment. We have a TAA so that to counterset, offset this kind of impact.

[Company Representative]: Maybe let me answer your questions. You asked actually quite a lot of questions. Of course, you'll see investment yield is a very important topic for us because it will impact on our net profit. CPIC pays a lot of attention to our investment yield. For the H1 of this year, our investment yield. Maybe I'll give you some background. Now we look at the net, total, and the comprehensive investment yields. For the net yield, I would say is within our expectation. It was down by 0.2 PTs. It was because of a lot of factors. It's not unexpected. For example, maturing of previously high-yielding assets, et cetera. But we manage reinvestment. We have a TAA so that to counterset, offset this kind of impact.

Speaker #1: Because it will impact our net profit. Now, CPIC pays a lot of attention to our investment yield. For the first half of this year, our investment yield—maybe I'll give you some background.

Speaker #1: Now, we look at the net total and the comprehensive investment yields. And for the net yield, I would say it's within our expectation. It was down by 0.2 percentage points.

Speaker #1: Now, it was because of a lot of factors. It's not unexpected. For example, the maturing of previously high-yielding assets, etc. But we manage reinvestment. We have a TAA so as to counteract, offset this kind of impact.

Speaker #1: If we look at the absolute number, 1.5% non-annualized return, it's actually quite—it's the best among our listed peers. Total investment yield grew a little bit, mainly thanks to TAA contribution.

Shaojun Su: If we look at the absolute number, 1.5 non-annualized return, it's actually the best among our listed peers. Total investment yield grew a little bit, mainly thanks to TAA contribution, for example, and the trading spread for stocks and also for funds. TPL assets also made some contributions. But of course, our comprehensive investment yield faced a lot of pressure compared to our peers. I would say it's more like a real-life stress testing, especially for Q2, the stock market was quite divergent. For example, the China stock index actually was down by 14%. That's a very big reduction. Our core equity strategy faced a lot of adverse influence in a lot of dimension. For example, our underlying equity is different from the K-shaped divergence. Our A+H share strategy is also producing active effect. Thirdly, we are quite active in terms of managing equity.

[Company Representative]: If we look at the absolute number, 1.5 non-annualized return, it's actually the best among our listed peers. Total investment yield grew a little bit, mainly thanks to TAA contribution, for example, and the trading spread for stocks and also for funds. TPL assets also made some contributions. But of course, our comprehensive investment yield faced a lot of pressure compared to our peers. I would say it's more like a real-life stress testing, especially for Q2, the stock market was quite divergent. For example, the China stock index actually was down by 14%. That's a very big reduction. Our core equity strategy faced a lot of adverse influence in a lot of dimension. For example, our underlying equity is different from the K-shaped divergence. Our A+H share strategy is also producing active effect. Thirdly, we are quite active in terms of managing equity.

Speaker #1: For example, the spread the trading spread. For stocks and also for funds. And TVL also made some TPL assets also made some contributions. But of course, our comprehensive investment yield faced a lot of pressure compared to our peers.

Speaker #1: I would say it's more like a real-life stress testing. Especially for Q2, the stock market was quite divergent. For example, the China stock index was actually down by 14%.

Speaker #1: That's a very big reduction. And also, our core equity strategy, well, faced a lot of adverse influences in a lot of dimensions. For example, our underlying equity is different from the K-type divergent.

Speaker #1: And our A-plus-H share strategy is also producing an active effect. Certainly, we are quite active in terms of managing equity. We have more in equity and less in funds.

Shaojun Su: We have more in equity and less on mutual funds. This is also divergent from the market trends in H1 of this year. Fourthly, we are quite prudent in pursuing our investment portfolio. If we look at the numbers, for life business, our core solvency actually ranked number 2 among listed peers. Given these dimensions, these factors, our core equity strategy faced a lot of stress. But we believe this is a temporary thing. It is a transitional thing. It is not for the long term. For the net and the total and the comprehensive investment yield, if we look at them, I believe in the short term, you cannot be best in all of them. Currently, we focus first of all on net investment yield, and also pay attention to total and comprehensive yield.

[Company Representative]: We have more in equity and less on mutual funds. This is also divergent from the market trends in H1 of this year. Fourthly, we are quite prudent in pursuing our investment portfolio. If we look at the numbers, for life business, our core solvency actually ranked number 2 among listed peers. Given these dimensions, these factors, our core equity strategy faced a lot of stress. But we believe this is a temporary thing. It is a transitional thing. It is not for the long term. For the net and the total and the comprehensive investment yield, if we look at them, I believe in the short term, you cannot be best in all of them. Currently, we focus first of all on net investment yield, and also pay attention to total and comprehensive yield.

Speaker #1: Mutual funds. So this is also divergent from the market trend in the first half of this year. And fourthly, we are quite prudent in pursuing our investment portfolio.

Speaker #1: If we look at the numbers, for life business, our core solvency actually ranked number two among listed peers. So, given these dimensions and factors, our core equity strategy faced a lot of stress.

Speaker #1: But we believe this is a temporary thing. It's a transitional phase and not for the long term. For the net, total, and comprehensive investment yield, if we look at the NEMS, I believe that in the short term, you cannot be the best in all of them.

Speaker #1: Currently, we focus first and foremost on net investment yield. We also pay attention to total and comprehensive yield. So, we believe it is sometimes inevitable that we might have a lagging comprehensive investment yield.

Shaojun Su: We believe sometimes it is inevitable that we might have a lagging comprehensive investment yield. The peers have different pictures in terms of investment yields because of a lot of reasons. For example, their business, their solvency, their dividend payout strategy, et cetera. If we only look at short-term, if we just compare numbers in the short term, we do not believe it is comprehensive enough, it is adequate, it is meaningful. For CPIC, we are mature. We are patient funding. We should stick to our principle. We should remain prudent and resolute. Maybe it is a slow bull market, a long bull market. We need to be flexible and disciplined. We should seize upon the kind of facial opportunity on the market, seize upon this kind of opportunity generated by transition, market transition. For our CPIC, we now pursue multiple asset managers strategy.

[Company Representative]: We believe sometimes it is inevitable that we might have a lagging comprehensive investment yield. The peers have different pictures in terms of investment yields because of a lot of reasons. For example, their business, their solvency, their dividend payout strategy, et cetera. If we only look at short-term, if we just compare numbers in the short term, we do not believe it is comprehensive enough, it is adequate, it is meaningful. For CPIC, we are mature. We are patient funding. We should stick to our principle. We should remain prudent and resolute. Maybe it is a slow bull market, a long bull market. We need to be flexible and disciplined. We should seize upon the kind of facial opportunity on the market, seize upon this kind of opportunity generated by transition, market transition. For our CPIC, we now pursue multiple asset managers strategy.

Speaker #1: Now, the peers have different pictures in terms of investment yields, because of a lot of reasons. For example, their business, their solvency, their dividend payout strategy, etc.

Speaker #1: So if we only look at the short term, if we just compare numbers in the short term, we don't believe it is comprehensive enough. It is adequate.

Speaker #1: It's meaningful. Now, for CPIC, we are mature. We were patient in funding, so we should stick to our principles. We should remain prudent and resolute.

Speaker #1: Maybe it's a slow bull market, a long bull market. We need to be flexible and disciplined. We should seize the kind of phased opportunities in the market.

Speaker #1: Sit upon this kind of opportunity generated by transition, market transition. So for our CPIC, we now pursue a multiple asset managers strategy. Now, I believe this kind of multiple manager approach is quite unique in the market.

Shaojun Su: I believe this kind of a multiple manager approach is quite unique on the market, so that our long-term performance can be more predictable and stable. I believe the resilience of our strategy is under pressure, of course, this time. Of course, we do see some drawbacks. For example, a lack of elasticity for our current strategy in this kind of a K-shaped divergence. So that going forward, we can be more flexible, we can tap into the strength of our internal investment managers and external asset managers. Of course, we all know that starting from July, the market also went through some changes, especially the rotation of the styles for equity. There will be a rebalance between growth and value shares.

[Company Representative]: I believe this kind of a multiple manager approach is quite unique on the market, so that our long-term performance can be more predictable and stable. I believe the resilience of our strategy is under pressure, of course, this time. Of course, we do see some drawbacks. For example, a lack of elasticity for our current strategy in this kind of a K-shaped divergence. So that going forward, we can be more flexible, we can tap into the strength of our internal investment managers and external asset managers. Of course, we all know that starting from July, the market also went through some changes, especially the rotation of the styles for equity. There will be a rebalance between growth and value shares.

Speaker #1: So that our long-term performance can be more predictable and stable. I believe the resilience of our strategy is under pressure, of course, at this time.

Speaker #1: Of course, we do see some drawbacks. For example, a lack of elasticity in our current strategy, especially in this kind of K-type divergence. Going forward, we can be more flexible.

Speaker #1: We can tap into the strength of our internal investment managers and external asset managers. Of course, we all know that starting from July, the market also went through some changes, especially the rotation of styles for equity. Now, there will be a rebalance between growth and value shares.

Speaker #1: For each share market rebounded, it's good for us. And for mutual fund, the herding of mutual fund, the effect of the herding of mutual fund is diminishing.

Shaojun Su: For H share market rebounded is good for us and for mutual fund, the herding of mutual fund, the effect of the herding of mutual fund is diminishing. I believe the negative impact of Q2 is also reducing. I believe these are quite good news for CPIC. First of all, as I mentioned, we care most about net investment yield, but that is not to say we neglect or ignore comprehensive or total investment yield. Regarding the whole year investment yield, we believe A-share market will become more balanced, and earning-driven opportunities will be the mainstay. For H share, we believe this H share market will still focus more on high dividend payout shares. All these developments will be beneficial to CPIC. We are going to look at the timing opportunities. We are going to improve to better select this kind of growth opportunities under its satellite strategy.

[Company Representative]: For H share market rebounded is good for us and for mutual fund, the herding of mutual fund, the effect of the herding of mutual fund is diminishing. I believe the negative impact of Q2 is also reducing. I believe these are quite good news for CPIC. First of all, as I mentioned, we care most about net investment yield, but that is not to say we neglect or ignore comprehensive or total investment yield. Regarding the whole year investment yield, we believe A-share market will become more balanced, and earning-driven opportunities will be the mainstay. For H share, we believe this H share market will still focus more on high dividend payout shares. All these developments will be beneficial to CPIC. We are going to look at the timing opportunities. We are going to improve to better select this kind of growth opportunities under its satellite strategy.

Speaker #1: I believe the negative impact of Q2 is also reducing. So, I believe these are quite good news for CPIC. First of all, as I mentioned, we care most about net investment yield.

Speaker #1: But that's not to say we neglect or ignore comprehensive or total investment yield. Regarding the whole-year investment yield, we believe the Asia market will become more balanced.

Speaker #1: And earnings-driven opportunities will be the mainstay. And for each share, we believe each share market will still focus more on high dividend payout shares.

Speaker #1: Now, all these developments will be beneficial to CPIC. We are going to look at the timing opportunities. We're going to improve to better select this kind of growth opportunities under its satellite strategy.

Speaker #1: We are confident we can beat the indicators and beat the benchmarks. So as to boost the total investment yield and comprehensive investment yield, I believe that is our outlook and comment on our investment yields.

Shaojun Su: We are confident we can beat the indicators, beat the benchmarks, so as to boost the total investment yield and comprehensive investment yield. Well, I believe that is our outlook and comment on our investment yields. As you mentioned, the issue about the profit, could you repeat your question about the profit? Could you repeat that? On OPAT. Now, for OPAT. The drivers of OPAT is CSM amortization as a key source, and also spread, and also P&C's underwriting profitability. For the H1 of this year, for Life CSM improved by more than 4% year on year, and spread is still going up, and the P&C profitability, underwriting profitability also improved by 1.4%. So if we look at them more in details for Life, including Hong Kong, OPAT CNY 15.8 billion. For P&C OPAT, CNY 6.2 billion.

[Company Representative]: We are confident we can beat the indicators, beat the benchmarks, so as to boost the total investment yield and comprehensive investment yield. Well, I believe that is our outlook and comment on our investment yields. As you mentioned, the issue about the profit, could you repeat your question about the profit? Could you repeat that? On OPAT. Now, for OPAT. The drivers of OPAT is CSM amortization as a key source, and also spread, and also P&C's underwriting profitability. For the H1 of this year, for Life CSM improved by more than 4% year on year, and spread is still going up, and the P&C profitability, underwriting profitability also improved by 1.4%. So if we look at them more in details for Life, including Hong Kong, OPAT CNY 15.8 billion. For P&C OPAT, CNY 6.2 billion.

Speaker #1: As you mentioned, the issue about the profit—maybe I will also... could you repeat your question about the profit? Could you repeat that? On OPAT.

Speaker #1: Now, for OPAT, the drivers of OPAT are CSM, amortization, a key source, and also spread. In addition, there is P&C's underwriting profitability. For the first half of this year, for life, CSM improved by more than 4% year on year.

Speaker #1: And spread is still going up. And P&C profitability, underwriting profitability, also improved by 1.4%. So, if we look at them in more detail, for Life, including Hong Kong, OPAT was ¥15.8 billion.

Speaker #1: For P&C, OPAT was 6.2 billion. If we look at the yearly picture, CSM amortization will continue to grow steadily. That will be a main driver of OPAT.

Shaojun Su: If we look at the yearly picture, CSM amortization will continue to grow steadily. That will be a main driver of OPAT. For some of the regulatory guidance for P&C business, its underwriting profitability will continue to grow, thus contributing to group OPAT. In the long term, we are going to improve CSM growth so as to make it an underpin of our OPAT. Although there might be changes in product mix, there will be some pressure. However, as the industry grow as a whole towards high-quality growth, we believe OPAT is on a good trend. CPIC is the first echelon, first tier listed insurance companies. We believe we are competitive in this regard. Well, let's welcome the next question. Thank you. I am Li Jian from Huatai Securities. First of all, my comment on your performance.

[Company Representative]: If we look at the yearly picture, CSM amortization will continue to grow steadily. That will be a main driver of OPAT. For some of the regulatory guidance for P&C business, its underwriting profitability will continue to grow, thus contributing to group OPAT. In the long term, we are going to improve CSM growth so as to make it an underpin of our OPAT. Although there might be changes in product mix, there will be some pressure. However, as the industry grow as a whole towards high-quality growth, we believe OPAT is on a good trend. CPIC is the first echelon, first tier listed insurance companies. We believe we are competitive in this regard.

Speaker #1: And for some of the regulatory guidance for P&C business, its underwriting profitability will continue to grow, thus contributing to Group OPAT. In the long term, we are going to improve CSM growth so as to make it an underpin of our OPAT.

Speaker #1: Although there might be changes in product mix, there will be some pressure. However, as the industry grows as a whole towards high-quality growth, we believe OPAT is on a good trend.

Speaker #1: CPIC is a first-echelon, first-tier listed insurance company. We believe we are competitive in this regard. Well, let's welcome the next question. Thank you.

Shaojun Su: Well, let's welcome the next question.

Speaker #1: I'm Li Jian from Hua Tai Securities. First of all, my comment on your performance: I believe CPIC is a balanced company in terms of its abilities on both the asset and liability sides.

Li Jian: Thank you. I am Li Jian from Huatai Securities. First of all, my comment on your performance. I believe CPIC is a balanced company in terms of the stability and liability side. Now, I have questions. Number 1, for life business, your product margin is growing up. This is quite rare among your peers because a lot of the margins, for example, because of the transition towards a PAR life, margin will be under pressure. But how can you improve your margin? Is it sustainable?

Li Jian: I believe CPIC is a balanced company in terms of the stability and liability side. Now, I have questions. Number 1, for life business, your product margin is growing up. This is quite rare among your peers because a lot of the margins, for example, because of the transition towards a PAR life, margin will be under pressure. But how can you improve your margin? Is it sustainable? Second question. On the P&C side, underwriting profitability is improving, loss ratio, expense ratio, both improved for auto and non-auto business. Around the 95% combined ratio. Can it be sustainable? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for your attention. Let me answer the life question. In terms of margin, MBV and BV margin are improving. Going forward, we believe we are going to maintain stable margin. How did we do that? That is mainly thanks to several things.

Speaker #1: Now, I have two questions. Number one, for the life business, your product margin is going up. This is quite rare among your peers, because for a lot of them, the margin—for example, because of the transition toward the power life—will be under pressure.

Speaker #1: But how can you improve your margin? Is it sustainable? Second question, on the P&C side—now, underwriting profitability is improving. Loss ratio and expense ratio have both improved for auto and non-auto business.

Li Jian: Second question. On the P&C side, underwriting profitability is improving, loss ratio, expense ratio, both improved for auto and non-auto business. Around the 95% combined ratio. Can it be sustainable? Thank you.

Speaker #1: Now, around the 95% combined ratio—can it be sustainable? Thank you. No, thank you. Thank you for your attention. Let me answer the life question.

Speaker #1: Now, in terms of margin, MBV and MBV margin are improving going forward. We believe we are going to maintain a stable margin. Now, how did we do that?

Chen Hui: Thank you. Thank you for your attention. Let me answer the life question. In terms of margin, MBV and BV margin are improving. Going forward, we believe we are going to maintain stable margin. How did we do that? That is mainly thanks to several things. Number 1, we stick to the regulatory rules regarding the integrity between reported and before filed and the actual expense. Secondly, we continue with customer segmentation. For this year, we can see we improved in this regard.

Speaker #1: That's many thanks, because that's thanks to several things. Number one, with regard to the regulatory rules concerning the integrity between reported and filed actual expenses.

Li Jinsong: Number 1, we stick to the regulatory rules regarding the integrity between reported and before filed and the actual expense. Secondly, we continue with customer segmentation. For this year, we can see we improved in this regard. For example, we now can very accurately identify different segmented customer. For example, we launched an AI system. Previously, last year, we focused on improving customer experience. This year, we now improved the system to better identify different segments of customers. For example, better identify their different life cycles, life stages, et cetera, so that we can more accurately pinpoint their actual needs. Differentiated business development for customers. For different segments, we have different approaches. We can approach them online and then follow up offline. I have some numbers for you. With this kind of customer relation development, we see some changes.

Speaker #1: Secondly, we continue with customer segmentation. For this year, we can see we have improved in this regard. For example, we can now very accurately identify different segmented customers.

Speaker #1: For example, we launched an AI system to—well, previously, last year, we focused on improving customer experience. This year, we have now improved the system to better identify different segments of customers.

Chen Hui: For example, we now can very accurately identify different segmented customer. For example, we launched an AI system. Previously, last year, we focused on improving customer experience. This year, we now improved the system to better identify different segments of customers. For example, better identify their different life cycles, life stages, et cetera, so that we can more accurately pinpoint their actual needs. Differentiated business development for customers. For different segments, we have different approaches. We can approach them online and then follow up offline. I have some numbers for you. With this kind of customer relation development, we see some changes.

Speaker #1: For example, better identify their different life cycles, life stages, etc., so that we can more accurately pinpoint their actual needs, and differentiate business development for customers.

Speaker #1: For different segments, we have different approaches. We can approach them online and then follow up offline. I have some numbers for you.

Speaker #1: With this kind of customer relation development, we see some changes. Number one, for example, we have more customers from big cities. And actually, premium per customer increased by 3%.

Speaker #1: And more customers are paying greater attention to their protection. Thirdly, regarding the issue of products, we are improving our product structure. There are several points here.

Li Jinsong: Number one, for example, we have more customers from bigger cities, and actually, premium per customer increased by 3%. More customers are paying more attention to their protection. Thirdly, for the issue of product, we are improving product structure. Several things here. In terms of the product format, we are making adjustment, for example, be it traditional or participating life. Secondly, in terms of premium payment, five pay, 10 pay. Now these five pay, 10 pay products are improving in terms of proportion. Thirdly, in terms of function, we are launching more long-term care products. Fourthly, in terms of the horizon of protection, duration of protection, we are also expanding that. Also, fourthly, we are improving the health and the wellness ecosystem. The big health and wellness strategy is our top three strategy for CPIC Group. Fifthly, we are improving refined management.

Chen Hui: Number one, for example, we have more customers from bigger cities, and actually, premium per customer increased by 3%. More customers are paying more attention to their protection. Thirdly, for the issue of product, we are improving product structure. Several things here. In terms of the product format, we are making adjustment, for example, be it traditional or participating life. Secondly, in terms of premium payment, five pay, 10 pay. Now these five pay, 10 pay products are improving in terms of proportion. Thirdly, in terms of function, we are launching more long-term care products. Fourthly, in terms of the horizon of protection, duration of protection, we are also expanding that. Also, fourthly, we are improving the health and the wellness ecosystem. The big health and wellness strategy is our top three strategy for CPIC Group. Fifthly, we are improving refined management.

Speaker #1: In terms of the product format, we are making adjustments, for example, whether it's traditional or participating life. Secondly, in terms of premium payment—five-pay, ten-pay—now these five-pay and ten-pay products are improving in terms of their proportion.

Speaker #1: And thirdly, in terms of function, we are launching more long-term care products. Fourthly, in terms of the horizon of protection, or duration of protection, we are also expanding that.

Speaker #1: Also, fourthly, we are improving the health and wellness ecosystem. The big health and wellness strategy is a top three strategy for CPIC Group.

Speaker #1: And fifthly, we are improving refined management. We are trying to improve customer experience in this regard. And sixthly, we are continuing to improve AI or digital empowerment, digital empowerment.

Speaker #1: So, we are going to further improve our MBV and MBV margin from these angles. Now, let me answer your question on the P&C business.

Chen Hui: We are trying to improve customer experience in this regard. Sixthly, we are continuing to improve AI or digital empowerment. We are going to further improve our NBV and NBV margin from these angles. Now, let me answer your question on the P&C business. Combined ratio for the H1 of this year continued to improve this year, which now stood at 95%, down by 1.3 PTs. Combined ratio, loss ratio, and expense ratio, they both improved, which is quite a big feat. The reasons, and I believe there are three reasons. Number one, we improved, or adjusted our business philosophy for P&C business. We remain compliant to focus on risk and quality business. We focus not only on volume, but more on quality and efficiency. We implement our fixed targets. For example, by focusing on income, on profitability, on cash flow.

Speaker #1: Now, the combined ratio for the first half of this year continues to improve. This year, which notes that 95%, down by 1.3 percentage points. Now, both the combined ratio loss ratio and expense ratio have improved.

Speaker #1: Which is quite a big feat. Now, the reasons—I believe there are three reasons. Number one, we improved, I mean, or adjusted, our business philosophy for the P&C business.

Speaker #1: We remain committed to focusing on risk and quality business. We focus not only on volume, but more on quality and efficiency. We are implementing our major targets.

Speaker #1: For example, by focusing on income, on profitability, on cash flow. This is something we do at all levels of our business. Now, if we look at daily business, we did two things.

Speaker #1: Number one, we adjusted the structure. The combined ratio of loss ratio was 0.8 percentage points. That is mainly because we proactively adjusted our business.

Speaker #1: For example, the personal credit guarantee business was terminated, and our risk exposure in this regard was basically removed by this year. Secondly, we cut our expenses and cut our costs.

Chen Hui: This is something we do on all levels of our business. If we look at the daily business, we did two things. Number one, we adjusted the structure. Combined ratio of loss ratio was 0.8 PTs. That is mainly because of we proactively adjusted our business. For example, the personal credit guarantee business was terminated, and our risk exposure in this regard were basically removed by this year. Secondly, we cut our expenses, cut our costs. Our expense ratio was down by 0.5 PTs. We strictly implement regular requirement regarding integrity between filed and actual expense. In terms of our business operation, we continue to improve anti-fraud, and also we continue to improve the management of our vendors. But of course, unsettled reserves improved by 3.3 PTs. That is to say, we have a very good foundation for the overall improvement in underwriting profitability.

Speaker #1: Our expense ratio was down by 0.5 percentage points. We strictly implement regulatory requirements regarding integrity between filed and actual expenses. In terms of our business operations, we continue to improve anti-fraud measures and also continue to improve the management of our vendors.

Speaker #1: But of course, unresolved, unsettled results improved by 3.3 percentage points. That is to say, we have a very good foundation for overall improvement in underwriting profitability.

Speaker #1: Another thing is that we are now improving our risk reduction capabilities. So it's not only about risk management or compensation after an accident has occurred.

Speaker #1: We are now moving forward to make it more about the full life cycle. For example, we are now collaborating with universities and other research institutes to conduct research on this type of risk reduction.

Speaker #1: For example, we are now developing a catastrophe reduction engine, and by leveraging our own risk radar, in the first half of this year, we have observed more than 100,000 customers in terms of offering them anti-flood services.

Chen Hui: Another thing is that we are now improving our risk reduction capabilities. So it's not only our risk management, risk compensation after accident occurred, we now move it forward to make it a more full life cycle. For example, we now collaborate with universities and other research institutes to do research on this kind of risk reduction. For example, we are now developing a catastrophe reduction engine. By leveraging our own risk radar in the H1 of this year, we have served more than 100,000 customers in terms of offering them anti-flood services. So we better reduced this kind of flood risk. And offset this kind of impact from extreme weather events. Thirdly, we are developing a long-term protection mechanism. That is to say, starting from talent, technology, and evaluation.

Speaker #1: So, we better reduce this kind of flood risk and offset this kind of impact from extreme weather events. And thirdly, we are developing a long-term protection mechanism.

Speaker #1: That is to say, starting from talent, technology, and evaluation. In terms of talent building, we have hired professional talent, especially in areas like biomedical and advanced autonomous driving, etc.

Speaker #1: So we need to make our people more professional, and have a more professional team. At the same time, under the Group strategy, we are putting in place relevant P&C scenarios.

Speaker #1: For example, AI application scenarios—claims settlement, AI customer service—I believe technology is playing a role. Thirdly, in terms of performance evaluation, we put efficiency first.

Chen Hui: In terms of talent building, we have hired professional talents, especially biomedical sphere and autonomous driving, et cetera. We need to make our people more professional, have a more professional team. At the same time, under the group strategy, we are putting in place relevant P&C scenarios. For example, AI application scenarios, claims settlement, AI customer service. I believe technology is playing a bigger and bigger role in reducing costs. Thirdly, in terms of performance evaluation, we put efficiency first. We focus on compliance and risk management so that we have a better foundation for quality growth. I believe the biggest challenge for P&C company is the climate. I mean, climate change, uncertainty of the climate risk. For example, El Niño effect. This round of El Niño effect, a lot of the typhoons in China have given us more risks.

Speaker #1: We focus on compliance and risk management so that we have a better foundation for quality growth, I believe. The biggest challenge for a P&C company is climate—I mean, climate change.

Speaker #1: Uncertainty of climate risk. For example, the El Niño effect—this round of the El Niño effect has caused a lot of typhoons in China and has brought us more risks.

Speaker #1: Not to mention this kind of storm and other kinds of landslides—I mean, they gave us some challenges. But we are still confident.

Speaker #1: We will continue with our prudent strategy to address the challenges. On the whole, I believe we are improving our efficiency and quality of business.

Speaker #1: This trend will continue. I hope that with P&C, the company can make more contributions to the Group as a whole. Thank you for the questions.

Speaker #1: In the interest of time, we will now end the Q&A session. Before the meeting, we actually solicited some questions from small and mid-sized investors.

Chen Hui: Not to mention this kind of a storm and other kinds of landslides. It gave us some challenges, but we are still confident. We will continue with our prudent strategy to address the challenges. On the whole, I believe we are improving our efficiency and the quality of business. This trend will continue. We hope that we, as in P&C company, can make more contribution to the group as a whole. Thank you for the questions. In the interest of time, we now end the Q&A session. Before the meeting, actually, we solicited some questions from small and mid-sized investors, and these questions were already answered previously. For example, regarding the interim dividend payout, product strategy, and also business outlook, et cetera, SAA, et cetera. We have already covered those questions. If you have further questions, we can take it offline.

Speaker #1: And these questions were already answered previously, for example, regarding the mid-term or interim dividend payout, product strategy, and also business outlook, SAA, etc.

Speaker #1: We have already covered those questions, and if you have further questions, we can take them offline. For the online broadcast, questions will be answered via text messages.

Shaojun Su: For the online broadcasting, questions will be answered in terms of text messages. If you have more questions, you can contact our investor relations team. Well, that ends our meeting. Thank you. Goodbye.

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