Q4 2026 Betmakers Technology Group Ltd Earnings Call

September 1, 2026

Matt Davey: 26 update on Betmakers Technology Group. Presenting today is myself, Executive Chair and President of the company, and accompanied by Jake Henson, Chief Executive Officer. The real pleasure here is to be able to deliver results from a technology-driven turnaround that has allowed us really to start compounding on the great work that the team have done over the last two years. You can see this directly in the numbers today, but we will also talk through the products and the customer impact and our competitive positioning in the marketplace. From the numbers, you can see we delivered the first six handle on our H1 EBITDA result with AUD 6 million. It is quite the turnaround from the AUD 1.3 million loss in the H1 of FY25.

Speaker #1: Basics update on Betmakers Technology Group, presenting today as myself, Executive Chair and President of the company and accompanied by Jake Henson, Chief Executive Officer.

Speaker #1: So, the real pleasure here is to be able to deliver results from a technology-driven turnaround. That has allowed us, really, to start compounding on the great work that the team have done over the last 2 years.

Speaker #1: You can see this directly in the numbers today, but we'll also talk through the products and the customer impact and our competitive positioning in the marketplace.

Speaker #1: From the numbers, you can see we delivered the first 6-handle on a half-year EBITDA result with $6 million; it's quite the turnaround. From the 1.3 million loss in the first half of FY25, this is driven in part by a double-digit top-line revenue growth of $46.1 million and expanding gross margins by another 10% to $66.5%.

Matt Davey: This is driven in part by a double-digit top line revenue growth of AUD 46.1 million and expanding gross margins by another 10% to 66.5%. Again, reflecting the great work that the team have done to make this business more efficient and deliver better return on our invested capital. A lot of this is driven by existing customers, but also by new product and new technology. There is no better example of the benefits and the market perception of that than demand by customers. In the last six months, we have signed up phenomenal customers such as Stake as well as CrownBet, and continuing to deliver a significantly strong pipeline of customers going forward. In addition to that, we have also closed on our acquisition of LVDC, and we think that opportunity unlocks an enormous amount of additional customer benefits throughout the US market.

Speaker #1: Again, reflecting the great work that the team has done to make this business more efficient. And deliver better return on our invested capital. A lot of this is driven by the existing customers, but also by new product and new technology.

Speaker #1: There's no better example of the benefits and the market reception of that than demand by customers. And so the last 6 months we've signed up phenomenal customers such as Steak, as well as Crown Bet, and continuing to deliver a significantly strong pipeline of customers going forward.

[Company Representative] (Betmakers Technology Group): I want to make just one point.

Speaker #1: In addition to that, we've also closed on our acquisition of LVDC, and we think that opportunity unlocks an enormous amount of additional customer benefits throughout the U.S.

Speaker #1: market. On the back of that, we will give you some commentary around our recent deals and strategic opportunities that we see in the company as we move forward.

Matt Davey: On the back of that, we will give you some commentary around our recent deals and strategic opportunities that we see in the company as we move forward. Let me hand over to Jake to walk you through the company update.

Speaker #1: Let me hand over to Jake to walk you through the company update.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Matt. And thank you to any shareholders dialing in for today's call. Betmaker's mission is to become the central interconnected platform for horse racing betting.

Jake Henson: Thanks, Matt, and thank you to any shareholders dialing in for today's call. Betmakers' mission is to become the central interconnected platform for horse racing betting. We do this through a number of ways. Firstly, with our market leading cost per bet, which has really emerged from recent technology upgrades and enabled us to structure flexible commercial solutions. We achieve this by cutting out intermediaries, owning our entire platform and streamlining operations. Core to what we do is solving complex problems for our customers and allowing them to operate lean and at scale. We drive efficiencies across trading, risk management, pool betting, and generosity, leveraging our proprietary form and content for even greater engagement. We are a fully integrated racing ecosystem covering fixed odds platform, tote and data, and the only scale operator globally with this coverage. The Betmakers technology moat.

Speaker #2: We do this through a number of ways. Firstly, with our market-leading cost per bet, which is really emerged from recent technology upgrades and enabled us to structure flexible commercial solutions.

Speaker #2: We achieved this by cutting out intermediaries, owning our entire platform, and streamlining operations. Core to what we do is solving complex problems for our customers and allowing them to operate lean and at scale.

Speaker #2: We drive efficiencies across trading, risk management, pool betting, and generosity, leveraging our proprietary form and content for even greater engagement. We are a fully integrated racing ecosystem covering pick-stods, platform, tote, and data, and the only scale operator globally with this coverage.

Speaker #2: The Betmaker's technology moat: it's not just a SaaS model; it's a hybrid variable model with deep vertical integrations and opportunities to success-share with our customers.

Jake Henson: It's not just a SaaS model, it's a hybrid variable model with deep vertical integrations and opportunities to success share with our customers. We've built a resilient and widely deployed global tech stack covering the racing wagering life cycle end-to-end. We're operating under a global license in all of our major markets, and we work closely with rights holders and racing bodies. We're also now capturing and generating our own bespoke data. The combination of AI-powered innovation and our global racing expertise is how we will build that scalable moat for future growth. Covering on the Betmakers expanded global footprint. With over 300 staff and customers across six continents, we're building a truly global network, powering the market leaders in both tote and fixed odds horse racing betting.

Speaker #2: We've built a resilient and widely deployed global tech stack, covering the racing waging life cycle end-to-end. We're operating under a global license in all of our major markets, and we work closely with rights holders and racing bodies.

Speaker #2: We're also now capturing and generating our own bespoke data. The combination of AI-powered innovation and our global racing expertise is how we will build that scalable moat for future growth.

Speaker #2: Covering on the Betmaker's expanded global footprint: with over 300 staff and customers across 6 continents, we're building a truly global network, powering the market leaders in both tote and pick-stods horse racing betting.

Speaker #2: We've built out a diverse customer base across racetracks, racing authorities, waging operators, both digital and online, and land-based, sorry, media partners, rights holders, and regulators.

Jake Henson: We've built out a diverse customer base across racetracks, racing authorities, wagering operators, both digital and land-based, media partners, rights holders, and regulators. We're expanding our reach and penetrating into new markets with a broad product suite that is now built for global expansion and scale. Matt will now walk you through some of the key financial highlights from the half before we move on to growth.

Speaker #2: And we're expanding our reach and penetrating into new markets with a broad product suite that is now built for global expansion and scale. Matt will now walk you through some of the key financial highlights from the half before we move on to growth.

Speaker #1: Thanks, Jake. One of the benefits of being a technology-driven turnaround is not just we're not just a cost-out story; we are a product-driven business now, and that's showing up in our revenue.

Matt Davey: Thanks, Jake. One of the benefits of being a technology-driven turnaround is we're not just a cost out story. We are a product-driven business now, and that's showing up in our revenue. Double-digit top-line revenue growth going from AUD 40.5 million to AUD 46.1 million for the H1 compared period on period. This is driven broadly right across the business from our digital data content and tote hosting. Very proud of the team to be able to do this, and we think this is a sign of the power of the technology platforms and products and how they're being received in the marketplace. We can see a very strong pipeline of additional demand coming through over the next half. Some of the metrics that we look for here, we've split out the two different divisions that we run, the Global Betting Services. Very strong growth here.

Speaker #1: Double-digit top-line revenue growth going from $40.5 million to $46.1 million for the first half, compared period by period. This is driven broadly right across the business from our digital data content and tote hosting.

Speaker #1: Very proud of the team to be able to do this, and we think this is a sign of the power of the technology platforms and products and how they're being received in the marketplace.

Speaker #1: And we can see a very strong pipeline of additional demand coming through over the next half. Some of the metrics that we look for here were split up into 2 different divisions that we run: the global betting services—very strong growth here—and global tote—also a respectable level of growth.

Matt Davey: Global Tote, also a respectable level of growth. We are very comfortable that Global Betting Services will continue at this pace. It looks like we have delivered the right products into the marketplace, and not just from our customers, but their customers. We're seeing better metrics right across the board. On the tote side, this business will benefit dramatically from our focus on LVDC, putting Las Vegas and Nevada right at the center of it, and we expect to see further benefits as we upgrade that technology, in the same fashion that we did with the GBS system. When you dig deeper into the business and look at exactly what's driving this turnaround, gross margin has been an area of focus for the team.

Speaker #1: We are very comfortable that global betting services will continue at this pace. It looks like we have delivered the right products into the marketplace, and not just from our customers, but their customers.

Speaker #1: We're seeing better metrics right across the board. On the tote side, this business will benefit dramatically from our focus on LVDC, Nevada right at the center of it.

Speaker #1: We expect to see further benefits as we upgrade that technology. In the same fashion that we did with the GPS system. When you dig deeper into the business and look at exactly what's driving this turnaround, gross margin has been an area of focus for the team.

Speaker #1: That is a combination of the data service that we ingest, but also the content that we acquire as we build out the business. We have told the market that our long-term goal is a 70% gross margin.

Matt Davey: That is a combination of the data service that we ingest, but also the content that we acquire as we build out the business. We have told the market that our long-term goal is a 70% gross margin percentage. We are well on track to deliver that, and you have seen that actual metric improve every single quarter over the last eight quarters. We are very comfortable that we are doing the right thing there. I think there is more to go, and we should have a very, very efficient business once we are through the major product deliveries. In terms of the COGS, we have broken down from cloud content and other. You can see that there has been an improvement right across the board there. We think there is additional work to be done here, so we are not resting on our laurels. That aspect of the business is in very good shape today.

Speaker #1: Percentage: we are well on track to deliver that, and you've seen that actual metric improve every single quarter over the last 8 quarters. So we're very comfortable that we're doing the right thing there.

Speaker #1: I think there's more to go and we should have a very, very efficient business once we're through the major product deliveries. In terms of the COGS, we've broken down from cloud content and other: you can see that there's been an improvement right across the board there.

Matt Davey: You can see that there has been an improvement right across the board there. We think there is additional work to be done here, so we are not resting on our laurels. That aspect of the business is in very good shape today. In terms of the operating cost base, this chart is a fabulous chart. I think it tells a lot of the story. Again, it is not just about cost out, but this is a technology-driven turnaround. The benefits of that technology, though, is that this business is cheaper to run today than it was before, and we are driving more revenue today than ever before on the back of a lower cost base, which I think is a very powerful position to put the business in.

Speaker #1: We think there's additional work to be done here so we're not resting on our laurels, but that business, that aspect of the business, is in very good shape today.

Speaker #1: In terms of the operating cost base, this chart is a fabulous chart. I think it tells a lot of the story. Again, it's not just about cost-out, but this is a technology-driven turnaround.

Matt Davey: In terms of the operating cost base, this chart is a fabulous chart. I think it tells a lot of the story. Again, it is not just about cost out, but this is a technology-driven turnaround. The benefits of that technology, though, is that this business is cheaper to run today than it was before, and we are driving more revenue today than ever before on the back of a lower cost base, which I think is a very powerful position to put the business in. We are continuing to see the benefits of our new technology, and in particular, the embrace of AI-driven technology production that is further lowering our costs, but also allowing us to deliver high-quality product faster and better with lower error rates than we have before. This is quite the story.

Speaker #1: The benefits of that technology, though, is that this business is cheaper to run today than it was before. And we are driving more revenue today than ever before on the back of a lower cost base, which I think is a very powerful position to put the business in.

Speaker #1: We're continuing to see the benefits of our new technology, and in particular, the embrace of AI-driven technology production that is further lowering our costs, but also allowing us to deliver high-quality product faster and better with lower error rates than we had before.

Matt Davey: We are continuing to see the benefits of our new technology, and in particular, the embrace of AI-driven technology production that is further lowering our costs, but also allowing us to deliver high-quality product faster and better with lower error rates than we have before. This is quite the story.

Speaker #1: This is quite the story I think the team continue to excite me every time I see product demos of what's coming through. And we feel we're definitely on the right end of this curve.

Matt Davey: I think the team continue to excite me every time I see product demos of what is coming through, and we feel we are definitely on the right end of this curve. I expect to see this continue to come down slightly, even though we continue to grow top line in double digits. The combination of top-line revenue growth, expanding gross margin, and managing our OpEx so that our operating cost base is continuing to come down delivers a beautiful chart here where our EBITDA is going up and to the right. This is the first example, I think, where investors can really see the operating leverage in the business. What we think is today, we have done a great job of getting to here, but we know that this business can continue to grow at a significant rate at its top line whilst maintaining a very reasonable cost base.

Speaker #1: I expect to see this continue to come down slightly, even though we continue to grow top-line double digits. The combination of top-line revenue growth, expanding gross margin, and managing our opex so that our operating cost bases continue to come down, delivers a beautiful chart here where our EBITDA is going up and to the right.

Speaker #1: This is the first example, I think, where investors can really see the operating leverage in the business. What we think is today, we've done a great job of getting to here, but we know that this business can continue to grow a significant rate at its top line, whilst maintaining a very reasonable cost base.

Speaker #1: And so you should really see and continue to see that show up here in the EBITDA line. Quick snapshot of our P&L: we've gone through most of the aligned items here.

Matt Davey: You should really see and continue to see that show up here in the EBITDA line. Quick snapshot of our P&L. We have gone through most of the line items here. D&A and finance costs are something that we are looking at at the moment as well. I do not think that there is too much really to talk about here. Jake, did you have anything in particular you wanted to touch on?

Speaker #1: DNA and finance costs are something that we're looking at at the moment as well. I don't think that there's too much really to talk about here.

Speaker #1: Jake, did you have anything in particular you wanted to touch on?

Speaker #2: No, outside the commentary, listed on the right-hand side, particularly as it relates to some of the historical terminal purchases. Going forward, that's becoming less and less of a framework of our business, and we're structuring deals with customers where we basically service and supply the ongoing support around the terminals as opposed to sort of the ownership model and the purchase.

Jake Henson: No. Outside the commentary listed on the right-hand side, particularly as it relates to some of the historical terminal purchases. Going forward, that is becoming less and less of a framework of our business, and we are structuring deals with customers, where we basically service and supply the ongoing support around the terminals as opposed to the ownership model and the purchase. We do believe that will flush through the P&L over the next few halves a little bit further, but as part of the long-term story, that is becoming less and less of the overall.

Speaker #2: So we do believe that'll flush through the P&L over the next few halves a little bit further, but as part of the long-term story, that's becoming less and less of the overall.

Speaker #1: Perfect. No, that's exactly right. We're focused on being a capital-light business, and unwinding some of the commercial deals and product deals that we did embark upon several years ago.

Matt Davey: Perfect. That is exactly right. We are focused on being a capital-light business and unwinding some of the commercial deals and product deals that we did embark upon several years ago. You are continuing to see that improve in the business as we are very disciplined in terms of what new opportunities we take on board as we grow the company. Let me hand back to you, Jake, just to walk us through those growth opportunities.

Speaker #1: So you're continuing to see that improve in the business as we are very disciplined in terms of what new opportunities we take on board as we grow the company.

Speaker #1: Let me hand back to you, Jake, just to walk us through those gross opportunities.

Speaker #2: Sure. Thank you. The first half, sorry, of FY26 was highlighted by major commercial milestones and also the completion of our LVDC transaction in Las Vegas.

Jake Henson: Sure. Thank you. The H1 of FY26 was highlighted by major commercial milestones, and also the completion of our LVDC transaction in Las Vegas. Firstly, the CrownBet agreement, a landmark and exclusive five-year deal to power the relaunch of crownbet.com.au into the Australian marketplace. That brand went live into the market just last week. CrownBet will be leveraging our full-stack Apollo platform, including trading and risk technology, RaceLab content, where we are providing critical wagering infrastructure and connectivity to the best payments, KYC, CRM, and sports providers in the industry. The hybrid terms of the deal align our incentives with CrownBet and establish a tier 1 partnership with Crown Resorts. Secondly, it was the Stake agreement, a three-year extendable deal for our RaceOdds+ product. Trading, pricing, bet stream, RaceLab, content management, as well as leveraging our proprietary Global Tote hub to access key international tote pools.

Speaker #2: Firstly, the Crown Belt Agreement, a landmark and exclusive 5-year deal to power the relaunch of CrownBet.com.au into the Australian marketplace. That brand went live into the market just last week.

Speaker #2: CrownBet will be leveraging our full stack Apollo platform, including trading and risk technology, race lab content, where we're providing critical wagering infrastructure and connectivity to the best payments KYC, CRM, and sports providers in the industry.

Speaker #2: The hybrid terms of the deal align our incentives with CrownBet and establish a Tier 1 partnership with Crown Resorts. Secondly, it was the stake agreement, a 3-year extendable deal for our race odds plus product.

Speaker #2: Trading, pricing, bet stream, race lab, content management, as well as leveraging our proprietary global tote hub to access key international tote pools. This is a truly exciting deal, leveraging all of the global infrastructure Betmakers has to offer.

Jake Henson: This is a truly exciting deal leveraging all of the global infrastructure Betmakers has to offer. Secured via a global tender process, and currently go live is slated for Q4 of FY26. Contract terms here involve a hybrid revenue mix and support Stake's international racing push into new markets around the world. LVDC. We announced during the H1 the completion of the SPA and actually got the keys fully on 1 February of the LVDC business. Since then, we have set about setting up that Las Vegas office as our major North American hub. We see significant opportunity to leverage the Las Vegas market as a showcase for Betmakers solutions, both retail and digital. On digital, the Nevada digital racing market is currently severely underserviced, with just around 5% of bets versus 50% across US statewide average struck via digital means.

Speaker #2: Secured via a global tender process and currently go-live is slated for Q4 of FY26. Contract terms here involve a hybrid revenue mix and support stakes international racing push into new markets around the world.

Speaker #2: LVDC: so we announced during the first half the completion of the SPA and actually got the keys fully on February 1 of the LVDC business.

Speaker #2: And since then, we've set about setting up that Las Vegas office as our major North American hub. We see significant opportunity to leverage the Las Vegas market as a showcase for Betmakers' solutions, both retail and digital.

Speaker #2: On digital, the Nevada digital racing market is currently severely underserviced, with just around about 5% of bets versus 50% across US statewide average struck by a digital means.

Speaker #2: That shows massive untapped potential for us to deploy our GTX turnkey solutions into the market and help racing and our customers capture a much greater share of wallet and do so at higher incremental margins for us.

Jake Henson: That shows massive untapped potential for us to deploy our GTX turnkey solutions into the market and help racing and our customers capture a much greater share of wallet and do so at higher incremental margins for us. We are working closely with the likes of Caesars, MGM, Wynn, South Point, and Station Casinos to roll out new product in the market and modernize key wagering journeys, both online and also in their venues. As part of our ongoing growth strategy, we are also planning to expand our platform into key adjacent verticals where we are leveraging our network, our global connectivity, and infrastructure to grow into and facilitate the provision of additional services, that can drive high incremental margins to Betmakers. Beyond racing, that is things like sports wagering across fixed odds, managed trading, in-play sports, and also sports tote pools.

Speaker #2: So we're working closely with the likes of Caesars, MGM, WIN, Southpoint, and Stations to roll out new product in the market and modernize key wagering journeys both online and also in their venues.

Speaker #2: As part of our ongoing growth strategy, we're also planning to expand our platform into key adjacent verticals, where we're leveraging our network, our global connectivity, and infrastructure to grow into and facilitate the provision of additional services that can drive high incremental margins to Betmakers.

Speaker #2: So beyond racing, that is things like sports wagering across fixed odds managed trading, in-place sports, and also sports tote pools. It's leveraging iGaming integrations into our platforms and our tote ticketing system for lotto and kino products, as well as virtuals, of which we recently announced a partnership with Global Virtual Racing provider Curon.

Jake Henson: It is leveraging iGaming integrations into our platforms and our tote ticketing system for lotto and keno products, as well as virtuals. Of which we recently announced a partnership with global virtual racing provider, Kiron Interactive. We look forward to updating the market a little bit more on this segment over the upcoming halves with some really exciting initiatives in the pipe at the moment. With that, I will just pass back to Matt for any closing comments before we work through some of the Q&A.

Speaker #2: We look forward to updating the market a little bit more on this segment over the upcoming halves, with some really exciting initiatives in the pipe at the moment.

Speaker #2: And with that, I'll just pass back to Matt for any closing comments before we work through some of the Q&A.

Speaker #1: Thanks, Jake. With this technology-driven turnaround now firmly in place, we're looking forward to driving future growth on a sustainable basis with a very strong focus on disciplined costs as we continue to drive the business.

Matt Davey: Thanks, Jake. With this technology-driven turnaround now firmly in pace, we are looking forward to driving future growth on a sustainable basis with a very strong focus on disciplined costs as we continue to drive the business. Major new agreements coming through the pipeline. We announced, obviously, the CrownBet deal and Stake. CrownBet was announced and contract executed in December last year. The company launched that business in February 2026. So it is a rapid turnaround for a tier 1 operator and another example of the benefits that this company is able to deliver with world-class technology and an operating platform. We will continue to focus on gross margin expansion with this target of 70%. That comes from disciplined renegotiating of existing contracts, but also the scale and size this company can achieve as we grow the top line.

Speaker #1: Imagine new agreements coming through the pipeline. We announced, obviously, the CrownBet deal and stake. CrownBet was announced in contract executed in December last year.

Speaker #1: The company launched that business in February 26. So that's a rapid turnaround for a Tier 1 operator and another example of the benefits that this company's able to deliver with world-class technology and an operating platform.

Speaker #1: We will continue to focus on gross margin expansion with this target of 70%. That comes from disciplined renegotiating of existing contracts, but also the scale and size this company can achieve as we grow the top line.

Speaker #1: Operating leverage to drive free cash flow has been one of the key components I've focused on, particularly at the exec chair role and how we've structured the incentive for our executive management team.

Matt Davey: Operating leverage to drive free cash flow has been one of the key components I have focused on, particularly at the Executive Chairman role and how we have structured the incentives for our executive management team. We will continue to deliver on that. That is a function of growing top line, maintaining costs where they are, and delivering great EBITDA margins as we continue to grow the business. With that, let us open up to some Q&A. Jake?

Speaker #1: We'll continue to deliver on that. That is a function of growing top line, maintaining costs where they are, and delivering great EBITDA margins as we continue to grow the business.

Speaker #1: So with that, let's open up to some Q&A. Jake.

Speaker #2: Yeah. Thanks, Matt. And thank you to Connie for helping us moderate some of these. I'll try and group a few for the chairman to start off.

Jake Henson: Yeah. Thanks, Matt, and thank you to Connie for helping us moderate some of these. I will try and group a few for the Chairman to start off. Firstly, at a macro level, how does recent economic and geopolitical instability impact the industry in your view and the wider Betmakers business?

Speaker #2: Firstly, at a macro level, how does recent economic and geopolitical instability impact the industry in your view and the wider Betmakers' business?

Speaker #1: I'll take that, Jake. So gaming and wagering is typically quite resilient as we go through different economic market cycles. We tend to say the gaming years recession resistant.

Matt Davey: Well, I will take that, Jake. Gaming and wagering is typically quite resilient as we go through different economic market cycles. We tend to say the gaming is recession-resistant. It is not immune, but it is very resilient as we go through these cycles. Right now we are seeing both, actually all three market, all key markets that we operate in, the European, North American, and Australian markets continue to show good, strong consumer growth. We are a beneficiary of that, and the fact that we deliver the vast majority of our product via digital channels allows us to continue to gain from that expansion. We are not seeing much in the way of any pullback from consumers, from the global macro and geopolitical situation. In fact, people are probably enjoying a little more relaxing entertainment, more so today than ever before. We feel very relaxed about that dynamic.

Speaker #1: It's not immune, but it is very resilient as we go through these cycles. Right now, we're seeing both well, actually, all three key markets that we operate in, the European North American and Australian markets, continue to show good, strong consumer growth.

Speaker #1: We're a beneficiary of that. And the fact that we delivered the vast majority of our product via digital channels allows us to continue to gain from that expansion.

Speaker #1: So we're not seeing much in the way of any pullback from consumers from the global macro and geopolitical situation. In fact, people are probably enjoying a little more relaxing entertainment, more so today than ever before.

Speaker #1: So we feel very relaxed about that dynamic.

Speaker #2: Very good. What would need to happen for you to consider H2 as successful on that one's directed directly to you, Matt?

Jake Henson: Very good. What would need to happen for you to consider H2 a successful one? That one is directed directly to you, Matt.

Speaker #1: Perfect. Look, this business, we've tried to dial down the noise and focus on what really matters to investors, and that is driving double-digit top line revenue growth, expanding our gross profit margin, and controlling our costs.

Matt Davey: Perfect. Look, this business, we have tried to dial down the noise and focus on what really matters to investors, and that is driving double-digit top-line revenue growth, expanding our gross profit margin, and controlling our costs. I think if we deliver that again in the second half, I will be very happy. We have clearly delivered the best technology platform in our market. Highly competitive. We are winning world-class contracts on the back of that. I think the team have got momentum on their side. We have wind in our sails, and we will continue along that path. This is not about rocket science. This is about just delivering good, high-quality product to our customers and ensuring that their end customers are satisfied and happy and continue to do business with them. The team are doing a great job, and I will be very happy to deliver results along those lines.

Speaker #1: And I think if we deliver that again in the second half, I'll be very happy. We have clearly delivered the best technology platform in our market, highly competitive we're winning.

Speaker #1: World-class contracts on the back of that. I think the team have got momentum on their side. We have wind in our sails, and we'll continue along that path.

Speaker #1: This is not about rocket science. This is about just delivering good, high-quality product to our customers and ensuring that their end customers are satisfied and happy and continue to do business with them.

Matt Davey: This is about just delivering good, high-quality product to our customers and ensuring that their end customers are satisfied and happy and continue to do business with them. The team are doing a great job, and I will be very happy to deliver results along those lines. Obviously, we have some fairly exciting high-level projects on the go, not just LVDC, which brings in half a dozen of the market-leading operators in the US market as direct customers, but also to deliver against the Stake contract, Betfair, and our other customers.

Speaker #1: So the team are doing a great job, and I'll be very happy to deliver results along those lines. Obviously, we have some fairly exciting high-level projects on the go.

Matt Davey: Obviously, we have some fairly exciting high-level projects on the go, not just LVDC, which brings in half a dozen of the market-leading operators in the US market as direct customers, but also to deliver against the Stake contract, Betfair, and our other customers.

Speaker #1: Not just LBDC, which brings in half a dozen of the market leading operators in the US market as direct customers, but also to deliver against the state contract Betfair and our other customers.

Speaker #2: Thank you. There's a few on the financials that I'll cycle through. First is around the specific items that need to be met for our gross margin to get beyond the 70% plus target.

Jake Henson: Thank you. There is a few on the financials that I will cycle through. First is around the specific items that need to be met for our gross margin to get beyond the 70% plus target. I think there is a few different levers here. One is certainly the ongoing restructure of the cost base. We have floated a few things that would impact that, one being the restructure of our PENN arrangement for content that we will start to see the benefits of through the H1 of this year. Secondly, it is just continuing to do what we have been doing in terms of adding new, higher incremental revenue, and staying disciplined in terms of how we service that. Finally, I think we have still got to see a little bit more of the full run rate of what we did during H1.

Speaker #2: I think there's a few different levers here. One is certainly the ongoing restructure of the cost base. And we've floated a few things that would impact that, one being the restructure of our pen arrangement for content.

Speaker #2: That we'll start to see the benefits of through the first half of this year. Secondly, it's just continuing to do what we've been doing in terms of adding new higher incremental revenue.

Speaker #2: And staying disciplined in terms of how we service that. And finally, I think we're still got to see a little bit more of the full run rate of what we did during H1.

Speaker #2: So obviously, we've got some of the benefit flowing through into that normalized 66.5, but I believe it would actually be a little bit higher if we had the full run rate of the half.

Jake Henson: Obviously we have got some of the benefit flowing through into that normalized 66.5, but I believe it would actually be a little bit higher if we had the full run rate of the half. So there is three items that will help drive us there, and certainly as we move towards FY27, we see a clear path to be beyond 70%. The next one is what can we expect from the cost base for the rest of the year? Matt touched on this a little bit, and certainly there is a little bit of full run rate benefit for us there in the sense we were still taking out some costs through the H1 of FY26. We have got some major customers that we do need to scale up in some way, shape, or form for.

Speaker #2: So there's three items that will help drive us there. And certainly, as we move towards FY27, we see a clear path to be beyond 70%.

Speaker #2: The next one is what can we expect from the cost base for the rest of the year? Matt touched on this a little bit, and certainly, there's a little bit of full run rate benefit for us there in the sense we will still taking out some costs through the first half of FY26.

Speaker #2: We've got some major customers that we do need to scale up in some way, shape, or form for, but for the most part, what we see is the go-forward margin of those customers being much higher than the current base.

Jake Henson: For the most part, what we see is the go-forward margin of those customers being much higher than the current base. Any increase in costs, certainly over the short term, we expect to be somewhere around CPI and not much more than that, unless really material opportunities present themselves, of which we will obviously update the market as to why we have slightly changed course there. Another question around the cost base is just additional investment required in relation to LVDC to get it beyond breakeven or to that breakeven point. It is a good question and something we have not put out a lot of commentary on yet, and we would like to probably at the next quarter as we get to understand the business a little bit more. I think it is not necessarily investment required, it is more focused time and resources internally.

Speaker #2: So any increase in costs certainly over the short term, we expect to be somewhere around CPI and not much more than that, unless really material opportunities present themselves.

Speaker #2: Of which we'll obviously update the market as to why we've slightly changed course there. Another question around the cost base is just additional investment required in relation to LBDC to get it beyond break-even or to that break-even point.

Speaker #2: It's a good question and something we haven't put out a lot of commentary on yet, and we'd like to probably at the next quarter as we get to understand the business a little bit more.

Speaker #2: I think it's not necessarily investment required. It's more focused time and resources internally and what I mean by that is leveraging our team and our technology and our global infrastructure to make that business run more efficiently.

Jake Henson: And what I mean by that is leveraging our team and our technology and our global infrastructure to make that business run more efficiently. Also, to deliver more of the product we have as part of the wider Betmakers ecosystem into that Las Vegas market. It will be a key focus area over the next 4 to 6 months, and we are confident we have a nice runway of wins there. We will update the market as we progress through those. Finally, Matt, before I pass on back to you, is just how material the CrownBet deal is expected to be on revenue. What we can say is there is a hybrid element of a fixed fee and a variable upside, and the combination of what we have seen so far and that minimum fee, we think they will be at the higher end of our Australian market customers.

Speaker #2: And then also to deliver more of the product we have as part of the wider Betmakers ecosystem into that Las Vegas market. So it'll be a key focus area over the next four to six months and we're confident we've got a nice runway of wins there and we'll update the market as we progress through those finally, Matt, before I pass on back to you, it's just how material the Crown Bet deal is expected to be on revenue.

Speaker #2: What we can say is there's a hybrid element of a fixed underscored fee and a variable upside. And the combination of what we've seen so far and that minimum fee, we think there'll be at the higher end of our Australian market customers just how high we need to see a little bit more data before we advise on that.

Jake Henson: Just how high, we need to see a little bit more data before we advise on that. But certainly, a really material customer for our Australian business and, as you mentioned earlier, fantastic to get them into the market so quickly. Switching gears a little, Matt, there are a few coming through around M&A. Firstly, at a higher level, how do you think about M&A now that the business has upgraded a lot of its technology?

Speaker #2: But certainly, a really material customer for our Australian business. And as you've mentioned earlier, fantastic to get them into the market so quickly. Switching gears a little bit, Matt, there's a few coming through around M&A.

Speaker #2: So firstly, at a higher level, how do you think about M&A now that the business has upgraded a lot of its technology?

Matt Davey: Well, that is a great question. I think what we have proven now is the operating model that the team have put in place, coupled with the technology platform that we have, allows this business to run very efficiently. We are very comfortable we can support a much higher revenue number on the back of the operating model and technology that we have. I note that the overall international racing industry, from a B2B perspective, is still highly fragmented. We think that presents significant opportunity for us as we start to expand our thoughts on international opportunities. There is quite a bit going on, and I feel very comfortable that we are well-placed to benefit from that. Clearly, we will take a very disciplined approach to any opportunities, both commercial as well as M&A driven, and we will update the market as and when needed.

Speaker #1: That's a great question. I think what we've proven now is the operating model that the team have put in place, coupled with the technology platform that we have, allows this business to run very efficiently.

Speaker #1: We're very comfortable. We can support a much higher revenue number on the back of the operating model and technology that we have. And I note that the overall international racing industry, from a B2B perspective, is still highly fragmented, and we think that presents significant opportunity for us as we start to expand our thoughts on international opportunity.

Speaker #1: So there's quite a bit going on. And I feel very comfortable that we're well placed to benefit from that. Clearly, we'll take a very disciplined approach to any opportunities, both commercial as well as M&A-driven.

Speaker #1: And we'll update the market as and when needed.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Matt. A couple of other ones here coming through that I'll just try and group together. A few around the state contract and how Betmakers was able to win that contract.

Jake Henson: Thanks, Matt. A couple of other ones here coming through that I will just try and group together. A few around the Stake contract and how Betmakers was able to win that contract. I think, as I touched on it, the structure of the deal really captures everything within our ecosystem. So the 24/7 nature of our business across trading, tote platform, and support our proprietary data internally and also, where we have taken the Apollo solution now in its modular fashion. So sports books with their own front end can leverage everything we have inside our platform infrastructure but still customize their own front end, was a key component of the deal.

Speaker #2: I think, as I touched on it, the structure of the deal really captures everything within our ecosystem. So the 24/7 nature of our business across trading, tote platform, and support, our proprietary data internally, and also where we've taken the Apollo solution now in its modular fashion.

Speaker #2: So sportsbooks with their own front end can leverage everything we have inside our platform infrastructure, but still customize their own front end was a key component of the deal.

Speaker #2: And certainly, Betmakers' global reach and the ability to take the state solution to the next level by adding in some of the key international tote pools as well, I think, is an exciting part of that deal.

Jake Henson: Betmakers' global reach and the ability to take the Stake solution to the next level, by adding in some of the key international tote pools as well, I think is an exciting part of that deal and certainly, where we see the future for the growth of the parimutuel business as well. One here just around Tabcorp that I can cover off on. We note that Betmakers said discussions had ceased, however, are discussions still ongoing around expanded services? Yes, absolutely. We are not doing our job if we are not trying to sell Betmakers solutions to everyone in the market, of which they are one of the largest operators here in Australia and happen to have products in the market that certainly overlap with some of our technology across platform trading and tote.

Speaker #2: And certainly, where we see the future for the growth of the paramutual business as well. One here just around Tab Corp that I can cover off on.

Speaker #2: So we note that Betmakers said discussions had ceased. However, our discussions are still ongoing around expanded services. Yeah, absolutely. The we're not doing our job if we're not trying to sell Betmakers' solutions to everyone in the market, of which they're one of the largest operators here in Australia and happen to have products in the market that certainly overlap with some of our technology across platform trading and tote.

Speaker #2: So absolutely, we'll continue to try to expand on our existing commercial relationships there to deliver more product into those guys and anyone else in the market.

Jake Henson: Absolutely, we will continue to try to expand on our existing commercial relationships there to deliver more product into those guys and anyone else in the market. Finally, I think, Matt, here, unless there are any others that pop up. Just to comment on the US market more broadly, particularly as it pertains to sports books, prediction markets, and how fixed odds could intertwine with all of that.

Speaker #2: Finally, I think, Matt here, unless there's any others that pop up, just a comment on the US market more broadly, particularly as it pertains to sportsbooks prediction markets and how fixed odds could intertwine with all of that.

Speaker #1: Yeah. At the moment, the conversation at every bar and club here in the US is around prediction markets. Allowing the gamification or wagering on pretty much any event.

Matt Davey: Yes. At the moment, the conversation at every bar and club here in the US is around prediction markets, allowing the gamification or wagering on pretty much any event. Look, we think that is very much a net positive for Betmakers. We think it is forcing sports books to consider a broader spread of products to stay competitive. Clearly, Betmakers has a great set of products, both from a tote but also from a fixed odds betting perspective. So we are continuing to engage in those conversations. Part of it is proving out the product and making certain we have reference clients live with it. The team are doing a great job there. I think we can obviously bed down on the back of the LVDC position in Vegas as well. Yes, continue to focus on that.

Speaker #1: Look, we think that's very much in that positive for Betmakers. We think it's forcing sportsbooks to consider a broader suite of products to stay competitive.

Speaker #1: And clearly, Betmakers has a great set of products both from a tote, but also from a fixed odds betting perspective. So we're continuing to engage in those conversations.

Speaker #1: Part of it is proving out the product and making certain we have reference clients live with it. And so the team are doing a great job there.

Speaker #1: And I think we can obviously bed down on the back of the LBDC position in Vegas as well. So yeah, continue to focus on that.

Speaker #1: I think we will see some innovation around new products. And I think the industry is right for that.

Matt Davey: I think we will see some innovation around new products, and I think the industry is ripe for that.

Speaker #2: Very good. No more questions to cover off at this stage. If there are any other questions that investors have, please feel free to shoot them through by the investor hub links or investors@betmakers.com.

Jake Henson: Very good. No more questions to cover off at this stage. If there are any other questions that investors have, please feel free to shoot them through via the investor hub links or investors@betmakers.com. I think with that, we can draw to a close the webinar, and thank you everyone for dialing in.

Speaker #2: And I think with that, we can draw to a close the webinar. And thank you for everyone for dialing in.

Matt Davey: Thanks for your time today, everyone. Appreciate it.

Jake Henson: Okay.

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