Q4 2026 IRSA Inversiones y Representaciones SA Earnings Call

September 8, 2026

Santiago Donato: Good morning, everyone. I am Santiago Donato, Investor Relations Officer at IRSA, and I welcome you to the fiscal year 2026 results conference call. First of all, I would like to remind you that both audio and slideshow may be accessed through company's investor relations website at www.irsa.com.ar by clicking on the banner webcast link. The following presentation and the earnings release are also available for download on the company website. After management remarks, there will be a question and answer session for analysts and investors. If you want to make a question, please use the chat. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that this call is being recorded and that information discussed today may include forward-looking statements regarding the company's financial and operating performance. All projections are subject to risk and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially.

Speaker #1: The following presentation and the earnings release are also available for download on the company website. After management remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session for analysts and investors.

Santiago Donato: After management remarks, there will be a question and answer session for analysts and investors. If you want to make a question, please use the chat. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that this call is being recorded and that information discussed today may include forward-looking statements regarding the company's financial and operating performance. All projections are subject to risk and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially.

Speaker #1: If you want to make a question, please use the chat. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that this call is being recorded and that information discussed today may include forward-looking statements regarding the company's financial and operating performance.

Speaker #1: All projections are subject to risk and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially. Please refer to the detailed note in the company's earnings release regarding forward-looking statements.

Santiago Donato: Please refer to the detailed note in the company's earnings release regarding forward-looking statements. I will now turn the call over to Matías Gaivironsky, CFO.

Speaker #1: I will now turn the call over to Mr. Mattias Kaivironski, CFO.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Santiago. Good morning, everybody. So we are finishing our fiscal year 2026. Remember that we closed the year during June, so we are very happy with the results.

Matías Gaivironsky: Thank you, Santiago. Good morning, everybody. We are finishing our fiscal year 2026. Remember that we closed the year during June. We are very happy with the results. We posted a net gain of ARS 421 billion during the year. We reached a record high EBITDA in the rental segment, reaching almost $200 million. It was a very active year in terms of development and acquisition. As you remember, we closed two transactions of acquisitions, Al Oeste Shopping in Los Caseros during the year, and also launched the development of a new shopping mall in La Plata, Distrito Diagonal. We expect to reach 410,000 square meters at the end of the next fiscal year. Regarding the performance of our mall, was very solid in terms of occupancy. Revenues grew in line with inflation, despite the weaker consumption in Argentina that Santi will explain a little deeper.

Speaker #2: We posted a net gain of $421 million during the year. We reached a record high EBITDA in the rental segment, reaching almost $200 million.

Speaker #2: So, it was a very active year in terms of development and acquisition. As you remember, we closed two acquisition transactions at Oeste Shopping and Ilogaxeos during the year, and also launched the development of a new shopping mall in La Plata, Distrito Diagonal.

Matías Gaivironsky: As you remember, we closed two transactions of acquisitions, Al Oeste Shopping in Los Caseros during the year, and also launched the development of a new shopping mall in La Plata, Distrito Diagonal. We expect to reach 410,000 square meters at the end of the next fiscal year. Regarding the performance of our mall, was very solid in terms of occupancy. Revenues grew in line with inflation, despite the weaker consumption in Argentina that Santi will explain a little deeper.

Speaker #2: So, we expect to reach 410,000 square meters at the end of the next fiscal year. Regarding the performance of our model, it was very solid in terms of occupancy.

Speaker #2: Revenues grew in line with inflation, despite the weaker consumption in Argentina that Santi will explain a little deeper. Regarding the office portfolio, also we reached 100% occupancy, and launched a new project to expand an office building next to that shopping mall, the Seta building, with a Mercado Libre as the main tenant.

Matías Gaivironsky: Regarding the office portfolio, we reached 100% occupancy and launched a new project to expand an office building next to DOT Baires Shopping, the Zetta Building, with Mercado Libre as the main tenant. Regarding Ramblas del Plata, we keep the commercialization progress and the development. We signed, during the fiscal year, five new barter agreements. We already closed 20 transactions in Ramblas del Plata, so we are very happy with that. On the financial side, we were active. We raised $230 million during the year. $180 million was the re-tap of our international loans, and $50 million was in the local market. About the shareholders' return during the year, we distributed 10% dividend yield at the beginning of, during November last year. We will announce the new dividend proposal probably in the next week.

Speaker #2: Regarding Rambla del Plata, we continue with the commercialization progress and the development. We signed, during the fiscal year, five new barter agreements, so we have already closed 20 transactions in Rambla del Plata, and we are very happy with that.

Matías Gaivironsky: We already closed 20 transactions in Ramblas del Plata, so we are very happy with that. On the financial side, we were active. We raised $230 million during the year. $180 million was the re-tap of our international loans, and $50 million was in the local market. About the shareholders' return during the year, we distributed 10% dividend yield at the beginning of, during November last year. We will announce the new dividend proposal probably in the next week.

Speaker #2: On the financial side, we were also active; we raised $230 million during the year—$180 million was a re-tap of our international notes, and $50 million was raised in the local market.

Speaker #2: About shareholders' return: during the year, we distributed 10% dividend yield at the beginning or during November last year, so we will announce the new dividend proposal probably in the next week.

Speaker #2: So with this, I want to turn the call to Santiago Donato to continue with the presentation.

Matías Gaivironsky: With this, I want to turn the call to Santiago Donato to continue with the presentation.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Mattias. Here we can see the shopping mall portfolio's evolution. Since last year, we have entered into a new growth cycle. Remember that we acquired Terraza de Mayo in 2025.

Santiago Donato: Thank you, Matías. Here we can see the shopping malls portfolio evolution. Since last year, we entered into a new growth cycle. Remember that we acquired in 2025, Terrazas de Mayo, in the outskirts of the capital city. This year we added, as Matías mentioned in the highlights, we added Al Oeste. That currently is under refurbishment and redevelopment, and we expect to open it by the end of this calendar 2026, Q2 2027. By the end of the period, we also acquired Los Gallegos Shopping Mall, a very traditional mall in Mar del Plata, one of the most populated cities in Argentina. So we are very happy with that. We grew 20% in our GLA, and we expect to add Distrito Diagonal in La Plata, another important city, very highly populated with no shopping malls at scale.

Speaker #3: In the outskirts of the capital city—and this year, as Mattias mentioned in the highlights—we added Altoeste, which is currently under refurbishment and redevelopment. We expect to open it by the end of calendar 2026 or in the second quarter of 2027.

Speaker #3: And by the end of the period, we also acquired Logaxeos Shopping Mall, a very traditional mall in Mar del Plata, one of the most populated cities in Argentina.

Santiago Donato: By the end of the period, we also acquired Los Gallegos Shopping Mall, a very traditional mall in Mar del Plata, one of the most populated cities in Argentina. So we are very happy with that. We grew 20% in our GLA, and we expect to add Distrito Diagonal in La Plata, another important city, very highly populated with no shopping malls at scale.

Speaker #3: So, we are very happy with that. We grew by 20% in our GLA, and we expect to add Distrito Diagonal in La Plata, another important city, very highly populated, with no shopping malls at scale.

Speaker #3: So we think these malls are going to perform very well. We are starting with commercializations in Logaxeos, and it's doing very well. So we're going to reach next year like 432,000 square meters just in malls, moving to a portfolio of 19 shopping centers in the country.

Santiago Donato: We think these malls are going to perform very well. We are starting with commercializations in Los Gallegos, and it is doing very well. We are going to reach next year, 432,000 square meters just in malls, moving to a portfolio of 19 shopping centers in the country. Another trend that we are seeing, and we have shown this slide for the last quarters, is the entrance and the growing presence of international brands across our malls. The opening of the economy and all the liberalization is attracting new players in Argentina. Our shopping centers are top of mind, and we control 70% of this market share of Buenos Aires city. So they want to be in our malls, and we have received Decathlon, Victoria's Secret, Mango, Dolce & Gabbana, and many others. The good problem is that we do not have a space for such high demand.

Speaker #3: Another trend that we are seeing, and we have shown this slide for the last quarters, is the entrance and the growing presence of international brands across our malls. The opening of the economy and all the liberalization is attracting new players in Argentina.

Santiago Donato: The opening of the economy and all the liberalization is attracting new players in Argentina. Our shopping centers are top of mind, and we control 70% of this market share of Buenos Aires city. So they want to be in our malls, and we have received Decathlon, Victoria's Secret, Mango, Dolce & Gabbana, and many others. The good problem is that we do not have a space for such high demand.

Speaker #3: Our shopping centers are top of mind, and we control about 70% of the market share in Buenos Aires City. So, they want to be in our malls, and we have received Decathlon, Victoria's Secret, Mango, Dolce & Gabbana, and many others.

Speaker #3: And the good problem is that we do not have space for such high demand. And we are expanding our current malls in order to give space to all these new brands that enter into our malls.

Santiago Donato: We are expanding our current malls in order to give space to all these new brands that enter into our malls. In terms of operating performance, the business remained very resilient, despite we have seen in recent quarters and probably in the last two years, a slowdown in consumption, a softer consumption environment. Tenant sales decreased by 8.5% in real terms in the year, mainly because of price effect, because tickets and visitors remained stable and with positive numbers in some months of the year. Our malls revenues increased by 1.5%. This is basically explained by our fixed components, that 87% of our revenues comes from fixed components that adjust by inflation. So provides a strong resiliency during even periods of weaker consumption. In dollar terms, we can see here evolution of the EBITDA of the segment.

Speaker #3: In terms of operating performance, the business remained very resilient. Despite we have seen in recent quarters and probably in the last two years, a slowdown in consumption, a softer consumption environment, tenant sales decreased by 8.5% in real terms in the year, mainly because of price effect, because tickets and visitors remain stable and with positive numbers in some months of the year.

Santiago Donato: Tenant sales decreased by 8.5% in real terms in the year, mainly because of price effect, because tickets and visitors remained stable and with positive numbers in some months of the year. Our malls revenues increased by 1.5%. This is basically explained by our fixed components, that 87% of our revenues comes from fixed components that adjust by inflation. So provides a strong resiliency during even periods of weaker consumption. In dollar terms, we can see here evolution of the EBITDA of the segment.

Speaker #3: And our mall's revenues increased by 1.5%. That is basically explained by our fixed components, as 87% of our revenues come from fixed components that are adjusted by inflation.

Speaker #3: So it provides a strong resiliency during even periods of weaker consumption. In dollar terms, we can see here evolution of EBITDA of the segment.

Speaker #3: We have reached record levels, similar to 2013, and almost 4% above last year. So we are very happy also with the performance in dollars.

Santiago Donato: We have reached record levels similar to 2013, and almost 4% above last year. So we are very happy also with the performance in dollars. Occupancy quite stable at levels of 97%. So the same, despite a more challenging consumption environment, our malls continue to deliver very strong operating results. Moving to the office portfolio, this is more stable. Remember that we have just five office buildings accounting for 58,000 square meters. As Matías mentioned, we are developing a new building of around 15,000 in the Polo Dot area. Jorge will give more details later. So we think that there is potential also for this and that there is demand for these type of buildings. Occupancy is in 100%, so there is a return to office as we have been seeing for the last quarters and years.

Speaker #3: And occupancy, quite stable at levels of 97%. So the same despite a more challenging consumption environment, our malls continue to deliver very strong operating results.

Speaker #3: Moving to the office portfolio, this is more stable. Remember that we have just five office buildings, accounting for 58,000 square meters. As Mattias mentioned, we are developing a new building of around 15,000 in the Polo Dot area that Jorge will give more details later.

Santiago Donato: As Matías mentioned, we are developing a new building of around 15,000 in the Polo Dot area. Jorge will give more details later. So we think that there is potential also for this and that there is demand for these type of buildings. Occupancy is in 100%, so there is a return to office as we have been seeing for the last quarters and years.

Speaker #3: So we think that there is potential also for this and that there is demand for this type of building. Occupancy is at 100%, so there is a return to office that we have been seeing for the last quarters and years.

Speaker #3: And the rent is stable at levels of $25 per square meter per month, the average between the premium, the AAA buildings, and the A buildings.

Santiago Donato: The rent is stable at levels of $25 per square meter per month. The average between the premium, the triple A buildings and the A buildings. Moving to hotels. In general, the portfolio showed solid operating results. Occupancy increased to almost 65%, with an average rate of $218. Better performance in Buenos Aires than Llao Llao. Llao Llao is in process of renovation of some rooms. So there we show the occupancy with excluding those rooms, that reached 70%. The situation with this renovation, that is at levels of 50%. But the reality is that the corporate events and conventions are growing in Argentina, that sector is growing, and we are seeing that in the performance of Libertador and Intercontinental, our hotels in Buenos Aires, that today the occupancy is 70%, very high, and rates at $150 per room.

Speaker #3: Moving to hotels, in general, the portfolio showed solid operating results. Occupancy increased to almost 65%, with an average rate of $218. There was better performance in Buenos Aires than in Xiaoxiao.

Speaker #3: Xiaoxiao is in the process of renovating some rooms, so here we show the occupancy excluding those rooms, which reached 70%, and the situation with this renovation is at levels of 50%.

Santiago Donato: So there we show the occupancy with excluding those rooms, that reached 70%. The situation with this renovation, that is at levels of 50%. But the reality is that the corporate events and conventions are growing in Argentina, that sector is growing, and we are seeing that in the performance of Libertador and Intercontinental, our hotels in Buenos Aires, that today the occupancy is 70%, very high, and rates at $150 per room.

Speaker #3: But the reality is that the corporate events and conventions are growing in Argentina. That sector is growing, and we are seeing that in the performance of Libertador and Intercontinental, our hotels in Buenos Aires, that today the occupancy is 70%, very high, and rates at $150 per room.

Speaker #3: This is a small segment, accounts to $10 million of EBITDA, but it performed quite well this year. Some highlights on the ESG work in program.

Santiago Donato: This is small segment, accounts to $10 million of EBITDA, but it performed quite well this year. Some highlights on the ESG working program. We continue strengthening all the agenda on the environmental, social, and governance front. We have started our climate risk assessment. We expanded all renewable energy in our malls. We have four malls that today generate renewable energy or green energy. DOT, Distrito Arcos, Alto Palermo, Mendoza, with solar panels. We also strengthen our circular economy initiatives and launching the first pilot of our sustainable purchasing program. On the social side, remember that we have Fundación IRSA, a foundation that started in 1996. This year, it was its 13th anniversary, so it is particularly meaningful for us. We invested more than $2 million in different initiatives and donations, and work with more than 70 alliances with NGOs in Argentina.

Speaker #3: We continue strengthening all the agenda on the environmental, social, and governance front. We started our climate risk assessment. We expanded all renewable energy in our malls.

Speaker #3: We have four malls that today generate renewable green energy: Distrito Arcos, Alto Palermo, and Mendoza, with solar panels. We also strengthen our circular economy initiatives.

Santiago Donato: We have four malls that today generate renewable energy or green energy. DOT, Distrito Arcos, Alto Palermo, Mendoza, with solar panels. We also strengthen our circular economy initiatives and launching the first pilot of our sustainable purchasing program. On the social side, remember that we have Fundación IRSA, a foundation that started in 1996. This year, it was its 13th anniversary, so it is particularly meaningful for us. We invested more than $2 million in different initiatives and donations, and work with more than 70 alliances with NGOs in Argentina.

Speaker #3: And launching the first pilot of our sustainable purchasing program. On the social side, remember that we have Fundación IRSA, a foundation that started in 1996, and this year it was its 13th anniversary.

Speaker #3: So it's particularly meaningful for us. We invested more than $2 million in different initiatives and donations, and have worked with more than 70 alliances with NGOs in Argentina.

Speaker #3: And then we know that we have two big office buildings that account for 72% of our portfolio of offices that are LEED. We are also planning for Rambla del Plata to be LEED certified.

Santiago Donato: We know that we have two big office buildings that account for 72% of our portfolio of offices that are LEED. We are planning also that Distrito Diagonal La Plata will be LEED certified. We are doing some deals with the city of Buenos Aires, the green deals that our malls are entering into that category as well. We continue to see ESG as an integral part of the way we manage our assets and engage with our communities. I will now give the word to Jorge, our CIO, Jorge Cruces, for all the real estate investments chapter.

Speaker #3: And then, we are doing some seals that we did with the City of Buenos Aires—the green seals—and our malls are entering into that category as well.

Speaker #3: So, we continue to see ESG as an integral part of the way we manage our assets and engage with our communities. I will now give the word to Jorge, our CIO, Jorge Cruces, for the real estate investments chapter.

Speaker #2: Good morning. We are pleased to share an update on our construction projects and the value being created. These actions reflect our long-term strategy of investing in high-quality assets, expanding our footprint in attractive markets, and developing projects that will fuel future growth.

Jorge Cruces: Good morning. We are pleased to share an update on our construction projects and the value being created. These actions reflect our long-term strategy of investing in high-quality assets, expanding our footprint in attractive markets, and developing projects that will fuel future growing. Al Oeste Outlet. We acquired the asset for ARS 9 million, of which ARS 4.5 million has already been paid. The remaining balance will be settled in four annual installments. Al Oeste Outlet is in Morón, west of greater Buenos Aires. It is an area with a large population base and a strong growth potential. The redevelopment of our 17th shopping center is progressing as planned. We are repositioning the asset as an outlet center, and the property is expected to be relaunched before the end of year. The project is currently 70% complete.

Speaker #2: Oeste Outlet. We acquired the asset for $9 million, of which $4.5 million has already been paid. The remaining balance will be settled in four annual installments.

Jorge Cruces: The remaining balance will be settled in four annual installments. Al Oeste Outlet is in Morón, west of greater Buenos Aires. It is an area with a large population base and a strong growth potential. The redevelopment of our 17th shopping center is progressing as planned. We are repositioning the asset as an outlet center, and the property is expected to be relaunched before the end of year. The project is currently 70% complete.

Speaker #2: Oeste Outlet is in Morón, west of Greater Buenos Aires. It's an area with a large population base and strong growth potential. The redevelopment of our 17th shopping center is progressing as planned.

Speaker #2: We are already positioning the asset as an outlet center, and the property is expected to be relaunched before the end of the year. The project is currently 70% complete.

Speaker #2: Upon completion of this phase, the shopping center will offer 24,000 square meters of GLA of modern retail units and an upgraded food court.

Jorge Cruces: Upon completion of this phase, the shopping center will offer 24,000 square meters of GLA of modern retail units and an upgraded food court. Estimated CapEx, ARS 12.5 million, including some tenant improvements and marketing expenses. The project has already attracted leading brands, including Adidas, McDonald's, Levi's, reinforcing its potential to become a key retail destination within the region. Los Gallegos. Mar del Plata is Argentina's leading coastal city and one of the country's most important tourism destinations. Home to nearly 700,000 residents, the city welcomes approximately 3 million tourists during the summer season and around 8 million visitors annually, supporting strong commercial activity and creating long-term growth opportunities. We are pleased to announce the acquisition of Los Gallegos Shopping Mall, located downtown, just a few blocks away from the cathedral and along one of the city's prime boulevard.

Speaker #2: Estimated CAPEX is $12.5 million, including some tenant improvements and marketing expenses. The project has already attracted leading brands, including Adidas, McDonald's, and Levi's, reinforcing its potential to become a key retail destination within the region.

Speaker #2: Los Gallegos. Mar del Plata is Argentina's leading coastal city and one of the country's most important tourism destinations. Home to nearly 700,000 residents, the city welcomes approximately 3 million tourists during the summer season and around 8 million visitors annually, supporting strong commercial activity and creating long-term growth opportunities.

Jorge Cruces: Mar del Plata is Argentina's leading coastal city and one of the country's most important tourism destinations. Home to nearly 700,000 residents, the city welcomes approximately 3 million tourists during the summer season and around 8 million visitors annually, supporting strong commercial activity and creating long-term growth opportunities. We are pleased to announce the acquisition of Los Gallegos Shopping Mall, located downtown, just a few blocks away from the cathedral and along one of the city's prime boulevard.

Speaker #2: We are pleased to announce the acquisition of Los Gallegos Shopping Center, located downtown just a few blocks away from the Cathedral and along one of the city's prime boulevards.

Speaker #2: The story of this property dates back to 1912, when it began operating as a general store. Over time, it evolved into the city's most iconic department store and, in 1994, became the first modern shopping center in Mar del Plata.

Jorge Cruces: The story of this property dates to 1912, when it began operating as a general store. Over time, it evolved into the city's most iconic department store, and in 1994, became the first modern shopping center in Mar del Plata. The transaction was completed through the acquisition of 100% of the shares of the two companies that own the property. The total purchase price was ARS 13.5 million. We already paid ARS 12.5 million, while the remaining ARS 1 million has been retained for a period of five years as a warranty holdback. The property has approximately 10,400 square meters of GLA, including 49 retail stores, 14 stands, two movie theaters, a department store, and more than 100 parking spaces. Looking ahead, we expect to invest approximately ARS 5 million to reposition the asset, strengthen its commercial offering, and unlock additional value. Distrito Diagonal. Turning to La Plata.

Speaker #2: The transaction was completed through the acquisition of 100% of the shares of the two companies that own the property. The total purchase price was $13.5 million. We have already paid $12.5 million, while the remaining $1 million has been retained for a period of five years as a warranty holdback.

Jorge Cruces: The total purchase price was ARS 13.5 million. We already paid ARS 12.5 million, while the remaining ARS 1 million has been retained for a period of five years as a warranty holdback. The property has approximately 10,400 square meters of GLA, including 49 retail stores, 14 stands, two movie theaters, a department store, and more than 100 parking spaces. Looking ahead, we expect to invest approximately ARS 5 million to reposition the asset, strengthen its commercial offering, and unlock additional value. Distrito Diagonal. Turning to La Plata.

Speaker #2: The property has approximately 10,400 square meters of GLA, including 49 retail stores, 14 stands, two movie theaters, a department store, and more than 100 parking spaces.

Speaker #2: Looking ahead, we expect to invest approximately $5 million to reposition the asset, strengthen its commercial offering, and unlock additional value at Distrito Diagonal. Turning to La Plata, construction of the city's first large-scale shopping center is progressing well.

Jorge Cruces: Construction of the city's first large-scale shopping center is progressing well. The shopping center will have approximately 22,000 square meters of GLA and is designed to be truly outstanding destination. The project is now more than 50% complete, with an average of 365 people working on-site. We remain on track to complete the shopping center by May or June 2027. The cinema spaces are expected to be ready for the operator to begin fit-out work in November, while the retail units will start to be handed over in January. This shopping center is the first phase of a long-term vision for La Plata. In the next stages, we plan to develop mixed-use projects that will expand the overall project and create additional value. Polo Dot. The Zetta Building expansion is part of Polo Dot, which already includes DOT Baires Shopping, the Dot Building offices, and the existing Zetta Building.

Speaker #2: The shopping center will have approximately 22,000 square meters of GLA and is designed to be a truly outstanding destination. The project is now more than 50% complete.

Speaker #2: With an average of 365 people working on site, we remain on track to complete the shopping center by May or June 2027. The cinema spaces are expected to be ready for the operator to begin fit-out work in November, while the retail units will start to be handed over in January.

Jorge Cruces: The cinema spaces are expected to be ready for the operator to begin fit-out work in November, while the retail units will start to be handed over in January. This shopping center is the first phase of a long-term vision for La Plata. In the next stages, we plan to develop mixed-use projects that will expand the overall project and create additional value. Polo Dot. The Zetta Building expansion is part of Polo Dot, which already includes DOT Baires Shopping, the Dot Building offices, and the existing Zetta Building.

Speaker #2: This shopping center is the first phase of a long-term vision for La Plata, and in the next stages, we plan to develop mixed-use projects that will expand the overall project and create additional value.

Speaker #2: Polo Dot. The city building expansion is part of Polo Dot, which already includes—next to this shopping—the Dot building offices and the existing city building.

Speaker #2: The project is in the northern part of Buenos Aires, at one of the city's most important highway intersections. Over the years, Polo Dot has grown into a major mixed-use development, bringing together office, retail, residential, and entertainment uses.

Jorge Cruces: The project is in the northern part of Buenos Aires, at one of the city's most important highway intersections. Over the years, Polo Dot has grown into a major mixed-use development, bringing together offices, retail, residential, and entertainment uses. Looking ahead, we plan to continue developing the next phases, including the Giga office building with approximately 16,000 square meters of GLA and the EXA residential building with approximately 19,000 sellable square meters. The redevelopment of the Philips Building will complete the overall master plan. We are moving forward with the expansion of our Zetta Building. Preliminary works and the earth moving have been completed, and construction is now focused on the concrete structure. Once completed, the expansion will add more than 15,000 square meters of GLA with an estimated investment of $35 million. To date, $14 million has already been committed through awarded contracts.

Speaker #2: Looking ahead, we plan to continue developing the next phases, including the GIA office building with approximately 16,000 square meters of GLA and an extra residential building with approximately 19,000 sellable square meters.

Speaker #2: The redevelopment of the Philips building will complete the overall master plan. We're moving forward with the expansion of our city building.

Jorge Cruces: The redevelopment of the Philips Building will complete the overall master plan. We are moving forward with the expansion of our Zetta Building. Preliminary works and the earth moving have been completed, and construction is now focused on the concrete structure. Once completed, the expansion will add more than 15,000 square meters of GLA with an estimated investment of $35 million. To date, $14 million has already been committed through awarded contracts.

Speaker #2: Preliminary works and their earth moving have been completed, and construction is now focused on the concrete structure. Once completed, the expansion will add more than 15,000 square meters of GLA, with an estimated investment of $35 million.

Speaker #2: To date, $14 million has already been committed through awarded contracts. The building currently has around 32,000 square meters of GLA and is mostly occupied by Mercado Libre.

Jorge Cruces: The building currently has around 32,000 square meters of GLA and is mostly occupied by Mercado Libre. In December, we signed an amendment to our lease with Mercado Libre to expand the space they occupy. Once the expansion is completed, the building will have more than 47,500 square meters of GLA with approximately 72% occupied by Mercado Libre. Edificio del Plata. Located in the heart of downtown Buenos Aires, this development will have 721 residential units and eight retail spaces totaling approximately 35,000 square meters of sellable area. The project is part of the City of Buenos Aires downtown reutilization program, which provides tax incentives to support new developments in the area. We have made good progress in the tax benefit process and have received 12 reimbursements to date. Construction is currently focused on demolition and site preparation works, including the basement levels.

Speaker #2: In December, we signed an amendment to our lease with Mercado Libre to expand the space they occupy. Once the expansion is completed, the building will have more than 47,500 square meters of GLA, with approximately 72% occupied by Mercado Libre.

Speaker #2: Edificio del Plata, located in the heart of downtown Buenos Aires, will have 721 residential units and eight retail spaces, totaling approximately 35,000 square meters of sellable area.

Jorge Cruces: Located in the heart of downtown Buenos Aires, this development will have 721 residential units and eight retail spaces totaling approximately 35,000 square meters of sellable area. The project is part of the City of Buenos Aires downtown reutilization program, which provides tax incentives to support new developments in the area. We have made good progress in the tax benefit process and have received 12 reimbursements to date. Construction is currently focused on demolition and site preparation works, including the basement levels.

Speaker #2: The project is part of the City of Buenos Aires downtown reutilization program, which provides tax incentives to support new developments in the area. We have made good progress in the tax benefit process and have received 12 reinforcements to date.

Speaker #2: Construction is currently focused on demolition and site preparation work, including the basement levels. The project will soon enter a more visible stage of construction.

Jorge Cruces: The project will soon enter a more visible stage of construction. At the same time, we continue to advance the procurement of major systems and construction materials. Ramblas del Plata is our flagship development, one of the most significant projects in our portfolio, and also one of the largest private mixed developments ever in Buenos Aires. Located on the riverfront in a unique natural setting, the project will help transform the Buenos Aires waterfront by opening it up to the public and creating new recreational areas. As an extension of Puerto Madero, Ramblas del Plata will combine residential and retail developments with large public green spaces, creating new opportunities and experiences for both residents and visitors. As in phase I, we successfully completed the environmental public hearing process for phase II and obtained the corresponding environmental certificate.

Speaker #2: At the same time, we continue to advance the procurement of major systems and construction materials. Rambla del Plata is our flagship development—one of the most significant projects in our portfolio, and also one of the largest private MACE developments ever in Buenos Aires.

Speaker #2: Located on the riverfront in a unique natural setting, the project will help transform the Buenos Aires waterfront by opening it up to the public and creating new recreational areas.

Jorge Cruces: Located on the riverfront in a unique natural setting, the project will help transform the Buenos Aires waterfront by opening it up to the public and creating new recreational areas. As an extension of Puerto Madero, Ramblas del Plata will combine residential and retail developments with large public green spaces, creating new opportunities and experiences for both residents and visitors. As in phase I, we successfully completed the environmental public hearing process for phase II and obtained the corresponding environmental certificate.

Speaker #2: As an extension of Puerto Madero, Rambla del Plata will combine residential and retail developments with large public green spaces, creating new opportunities and experiences for both residents and visitors.

Speaker #2: As in Phase One, we successfully completed the environmental public hearing process for Phase Two and obtained the corresponding environmental certificate. We have completed the sheet piling works, the cleanup of the central bay, and a significant portion of the roads and stormwater infrastructure in Phase One.

Jorge Cruces: We have completed the sheet piling works, the cleanup of the central bay, and a significant portion of the roads and storm water infrastructure in phase 1. Current activities are focused on the installation of key utilities, including water, sewage, electricity, and gas networks. Contracted works are now 77% complete with an average of 72 people working on-site, supported by heavy equipment. To date, we have awarded contracts totaling $12.5 million. As the fiscal year ends, we completed transactions for 18 lots of the 26 included in the expanded stage 1, with 8 lots still available. Over the last 2 months, we signed 2 additional swap agreements totaling $10.75 million for lots L03 and J02. As a result, less than 40,000 square meters of sellable area remain available in the expanded stage 1.

Speaker #2: Current activities are focused on the installation of key utilities, including water, sewage, electricity, and gas networks. Contracted works are now 77% complete. With an average of 72 people working on site, supported by heavy equipment, to date, we have awarded contracts totaling $12.5 million.

Jorge Cruces: To date, we have awarded contracts totaling $12.5 million. As the fiscal year ends, we completed transactions for 18 lots of the 26 included in the expanded stage 1, with 8 lots still available. Over the last 2 months, we signed 2 additional swap agreements totaling $10.75 million for lots L03 and J02. As a result, less than 40,000 square meters of sellable area remain available in the expanded stage 1.

Speaker #2: At fiscal year end, we completed transactions for 18 lots out of the 26 included in the expanded stage one, with eight lots still available.

Speaker #2: Over the last two months, we signed two additional swap agreements totaling $10.75 million for lots LO3 and JO2. As a result, less than 40,000 square meters of sellable area remain available in the expanded Stage One.

Speaker #2: Overall, to date, we have completed 20 transactions, including 18 land swaps and two sales, for a total value of approximately $130 million. Through the swap agreements already signed, IRSA will receive almost 33,000 square meters of sellable area.

Jorge Cruces: Overall, to date, we have completed 20 transactions, including 18 land swaps and 2 sales, for a total value of approximately $130 million. Through the swap agreements already signed, IRSA will receive almost 33,000 square meters of sellable area. Overall, commercial activity continues to show strong market demand for the project and gives us confidence in its long-term value. Now, I'll give the floor back to our CFO, Matías Gaivironsky.

Speaker #2: Overall, commercial activity continues to show strong market demand for the project and gives us confidence in its long-term value. Now, I'll give the floor back to our CFO, Mr. Matías Gavionsky.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Jorge. So, going to our investment in Banco Hipotecario, where we have 29% of the shares, we can highlight that during the year, the bank started a change in strategy, trying to focus more the branch on corporate and SME clients.

Matías Gaivironsky: Thank you, Jorge. Going to our investment in Banco Hipotecario, where we have 29% of the shares, we can highlight that during the year, the bank started a change in the strategy, trying to focalize more the branch in the corporate and SME clients, and converting all the retail banking, trying to transform in a fully digital model with 100% of the customers' interaction and transaction handled through digital channels. This year was a challenging year in terms of NPL. As you can see, there was an increase in NPL in the bank and in the whole system in Argentina, and also the margins were lower than the previous year, so that affected the results of Banco Hipotecario. As you can see, the results 2 years at last year achieved ARS 18 billion. This year was positively ARS 15.7 billion.

Speaker #3: And converting all the retail banking, trying to transform it into a fully digital model, with 100% of customer interactions and transactions handled through digital channels.

Matías Gaivironsky: This year was a challenging year in terms of NPL. As you can see, there was an increase in NPL in the bank and in the whole system in Argentina, and also the margins were lower than the previous year, so that affected the results of Banco Hipotecario. As you can see, the results 2 years at last year achieved ARS 18 billion. This year was positively ARS 15.7 billion.

Speaker #3: During this year, it was a challenging year in terms of NPL. As you can see, there was an increase in NPL in the bank and in the whole system.

Speaker #3: In Argentina, the margins were also lower than the previous year, so that affected the results of Banco Hipotecario. But as you can see, the results for the past two years—last year achieved 18 billion pesos, and this year was positive at 15.7 billion pesos.

Speaker #3: The bank distributed dividends during the year, so IRSA received 3.7 billion pesos, and that was the third year in a row that the bank is distributing dividends.

Matías Gaivironsky: The bank distributed dividends during the year, so IRSA received ARS 3.7 billion, and that was the third year in a row that the bank is distributing dividends. Also regarding mortgages, the bank, as you know, has a strong knowledge in this segment. The bank is reaching more than its market share in terms of the banking system in the mortgage market, originating almost 2,000 mortgages during the last years. Going through the financial results of the year. First, to understand what happened with the evolution of the effects and the inflation generated some distortions in our financial statements. As you can see, the inflation during the year was higher than the devaluation. That generate positive results when we convert the debt into pesos.

Speaker #3: Also, regarding mortgages, the bank, as you know, has strong knowledge in this segment, so the bank is reaching more than its market share in terms of the banking system in the mortgage market.

Matías Gaivironsky: The bank is reaching more than its market share in terms of the banking system in the mortgage market, originating almost 2,000 mortgages during the last years. Going through the financial results of the year. First, to understand what happened with the evolution of the effects and the inflation generated some distortions in our financial statements. As you can see, the inflation during the year was higher than the devaluation. That generate positive results when we convert the debt into pesos.

Speaker #3: Originating almost two thousand mortgages during the last years. So, going to the financial results of the year, first, to understand what happened with the evolution of the effects and the inflation, which generated some distortions in our financial statements.

Speaker #3: As you can see, the inflation during the year was higher than the devaluation. That generates positive results when we convert the debt into pesos.

Matías Gaivironsky: Has a negative effect when we value some properties in USD, that when you convert into pesos, since the inflation was higher than the devaluation, that generate negative results, and also positive results in the valuation of the shopping malls. Going to the next page, you can see that we finished the year with a net income of ARS 420.9 billion, compared with the previous year of ARS 261.9 billion. The main impacts are first in the line 4, the change in the fair value that this year was positive by ARS 193.7 billion, compared with a negative result last year.

Speaker #3: As a negative effect, when we value some properties in dollars, then, when you convert into pesos, since the inflation was higher than the devaluation, that generates negative results.

Speaker #3: And also positive results in the evaluation of the shopping mall. So, going to the next page, you can see that we finished the year with a net income of $420.9 billion pesos, compared with the previous year of $261.9 billion pesos.

Speaker #3: The main impacts are, first, in line four: the change in fair value, which this year was positive by 193.7 billion pesos, compared with a negative result last year.

Matías Gaivironsky: This was originated basically for an improvement in the valuation of our shopping malls, since there is a more stable effects, and since the shopping malls generate pesos adjusted by inflation, we are improving the valuation of shopping malls as a result of the DCF model that we are using, and also a decrease in the cost of capital for the company that lowered our WACC that we use to discount the flows. Also, there is an important effect in the line 10, the income tax that we will see later. Going to next page, we can see that the adjusted EBITDA was positive during the year. The rental segment increased by 1.4%, was higher in hotels and offices, slight decrease in shopping malls, but almost the same than the previous year, with some impact in margins in shopping malls, but slight decrease from 67.9% to 66%.

Speaker #3: This was originated basically as an improvement in the valuation of our shopping malls. Since there are more stable effects, and since the shopping malls generate pesos adjusted by inflation, we are improving the valuation of shopping malls as a result of the DCF model that we are using, and also a decrease in the cost of capital for the company that lowered our WACC that we used to discount the flows.

Speaker #3: Also, there is an important effect in line 10, the income tax, that we will see later. So, going to the next page, we can see that the adjusted EBITDA was positive during the year.

Matías Gaivironsky: Also, there is an important effect in the line 10, the income tax that we will see later. Going to next page, we can see that the adjusted EBITDA was positive during the year. The rental segment increased by 1.4%, was higher in hotels and offices, slight decrease in shopping malls, but almost the same than the previous year, with some impact in margins in shopping malls, but slight decrease from 67.9% to 66%.

Speaker #3: The rental segment increased by 1.4%, was higher in hotels and offices. Slight decrease in shopping malls, but almost the same than the previous year.

Speaker #3: With some impact on margins in shopping malls, we saw a slight decrease from 67.9% to 66% during the last quarter of the year. We recognize some one-shot effects in the shopping mall segment, so we expect that to recover going forward.

Matías Gaivironsky: During the last quarter of the year, we recognized some one-shot effects in the shopping mall segment, so we expect that to recover going forward, and an improvement in margins in offices and hotels. About the change in the fair value, as I mentioned, there was an improvement in shopping malls that was somehow offset by a negative impact in pesos terms of the offices and land bank. If we see the offices and the land bank in dollar terms, that remained stable compared with the previous year. Finally, regarding the net financial results, we have a positive result of ARS 86.5 billion. That is basically related to the net effects result of a positive number of ARS 89.9 billion, compared with ARS 18.6 last year.

Speaker #3: And an improvement in margins in offices and hotels. Regarding the change in fair value, as I mentioned, there was an improvement in shopping malls that was somehow offset by a negative impact in peso terms from the offices and Landbank.

Speaker #3: If we see the offices and the Landbank in dollar terms, that remained stable compared with the previous year. And finally, regarding the net financial results, we have a positive result of $86.5 billion pesos.

Matías Gaivironsky: If we see the offices and the land bank in dollar terms, that remained stable compared with the previous year. Finally, regarding the net financial results, we have a positive result of ARS 86.5 billion. That is basically related to the net effects result of a positive number of ARS 89.9 billion, compared with ARS 18.6 last year.

Speaker #3: That is basically related to the net effects result of a positive number of $89.9 billion pesos compared with $18.6 billion last year. That is related, as I mentioned, to converting the dollar-denominated debt into pesos, because of the effect of inflation and devaluation.

Matías Gaivironsky: That is related, as I mentioned, to convert the dollar-denominated debt into pesos because of the effect of the inflation and devaluation. About the income tax, this year we are posting a negative result of ARS 150 billion. Here we have a part that is related to the deferred tax on the appraisal of the investment properties. Every time that we recognize an appreciation of that line, we have to recognize automatically 35% deferred tax. So part of that is related to that, and part of that is related to the income tax of the company that we started to pay. Again, income tax after consuming all the tax credits that we used to have. Also there is including a deferred tax that we defer the payment for 2 years. So now we have the last installment of that year.

Speaker #3: About the income tax, this year we are posting a negative result of 150 billion pesos. Here we have part that is related to the deferred tax on the appraisal of the investment properties.

Speaker #3: Every time that we recognize an appreciation of that line, we have to recognize automatically a 35% deferred tax. So, part of that is related to that, and part of that is related to the income tax of the company—we started to pay income tax again after consuming all the tax credits that we used to have.

Matías Gaivironsky: Every time that we recognize an appreciation of that line, we have to recognize automatically 35% deferred tax. So part of that is related to that, and part of that is related to the income tax of the company that we started to pay. Again, income tax after consuming all the tax credits that we used to have. Also there is including a deferred tax that we defer the payment for 2 years. So now we have the last installment of that year.

Speaker #3: And also, there is a deferred tax that we deferred the payment for two years, so now we have the last installment for that year.

Speaker #3: So going forward, we should see a reduction of this number for the next fiscal year. So with this, we finished the net the year with a net income of the 420.9 billion pesos.

Matías Gaivironsky: So going forward, we should see a reduction of this number for the next fiscal year. So with this, we finish the year with a net income of ARS 420.9 billion. When we see the evolution of the rental adjusted EBITDA, we have a record high, almost $200 million for this year. So we are very happy on the evolution of all our recurrent EBITDA. About the debt profile, as I mentioned, during the year, we raised $230 million. One that is with amortizations that we retap the existing notes with amortization in 2033, 2034, and 2035. And part is very short-term, for a year, with an interest rate of 3.75%. So we raised $50 million of one year term. As you can see on the left, the difference between the gross debt and the net debt is our cash position.

Speaker #3: When we see the evolution of the rental-adjusted EBITDA, we have a record high—almost $200 million for this year. So, we are very happy with the evolution of all our recurrent EBITDA.

Speaker #3: About the debt profile, as I mentioned, during the year we raised it 230 million dollars. One that is that with amortizations that we retap the existing notes with amortization in 30 2033, 2034, and 2035.

Matías Gaivironsky: About the debt profile, as I mentioned, during the year, we raised $230 million. One that is with amortizations that we retap the existing notes with amortization in 2033, 2034, and 2035. And part is very short-term, for a year, with an interest rate of 3.75%. So we raised $50 million of one year term. As you can see on the left, the difference between the gross debt and the net debt is our cash position.

Speaker #3: And part is very short term, for a year, with an interest rate of 3.75%. So we rated $50 million, one-year term. So, as you can see on the left, the difference between the gross debt and the net debt is our cash position.

Speaker #3: So today we have a strong cash position of $390 million. So what we did was to anticipate any kind of volatility that could appear in the market because of the election year that we will have in Argentina with the presidential elections.

Matías Gaivironsky: Today, we have a strong cash position of $390 million. What we did was to anticipate any kind of volatility that could appear in the market because of the electionary year that we will have in Argentina with the presidential elections. The company anticipated all the CapEx needs, so we already have in cash all the money for our expansion. So we won't have to reach the market or tap the market during the next year. The net debt to EBITDA today is 1.4 times. We expect that number to grow because of the CapEx needs and deployment of the cash that we raised, so that number will increase probably for the next year. The LTV is still very conservative at 10% LTV and a coverage ratio of almost nine times. With this, we finish the presentation. Now we open the line to receive your questions.

Speaker #3: So the company anticipated all the CapEx needs. So we already have in cash all the money for our expansion. So we won't have to reach the market or tap the market during the next year.

Speaker #3: The net debt to EBITDA today is 1.4 times. We expect that number to grow because of the capex needs and deployment of the cash that we raise.

Matías Gaivironsky: We expect that number to grow because of the CapEx needs and deployment of the cash that we raised, so that number will increase probably for the next year. The LTV is still very conservative at 10% LTV and a coverage ratio of almost nine times. With this, we finish the presentation. Now we open the line to receive your questions.

Speaker #3: So that number will probably increase for the next year. The LTV is still very, very conservative at 10% LTV, and the coverage ratio is almost nine times.

Speaker #3: So with this, we have finished the presentation. Now, we open the line to receive your questions.

Speaker #1: Well, we close the presentation. Now it's time for the Q&A session. If you have a question, please use the chat. We are going to take the questions in the order we receive them.

Santiago Donato: Well, we closed the presentation. Now it's time for the Q&A session. If you have a question, please use the chat. We are going to take the questions in the order we receive them. Here we have some in the chat. The first one is related to when you say the price effect on the shopping malls, do you mean the prices increased at a lower pace than inflation?

Speaker #1: Here we have some questions from the chat. The first one is related to when you say the price effect on the shopping malls. Do you mean that prices are increasing at a lower pace than inflation?

Speaker #1: Yes, correct. Prices decrease, so in real terms, they decrease. That is the reason for the price effect.

Matías Gaivironsky: Yes, correct. Prices decreased. So in real terms, they decreased. That is the reason of the price effect. Something else to add here is that if we analyze what happened in Argentina with prices of clothing, during all the process on the last part of the last government, that was an acceleration of the inflation and was very difficult to import goods in Argentina. So prices of all the clothes in Argentina was extremely expensive. Also, if we compare the CPI with that inflation of apparel in Argentina was much higher than the last two years of the previous administration. Now, with the open of the economy, we have much more brands coming, and also for existing local brands, they can import easily, and the cost are lower, so they can transfer that to clients and we start to see much normal prices compared with the region.

Speaker #3: What something else to add here is that if we analyze what happened in Argentina with prices of clothing, during all the process on the last part of the government, the last government, that was an acceleration of the inflation.

Speaker #3: And it was very difficult to import goods in Argentina. So, prices of all the clothes in Argentina were extremely expensive. Also, if we compare the CPI with the inflation of the upper rally in Argentina, it was much higher than the last two years of the previous administration.

Matías Gaivironsky: So prices of all the clothes in Argentina was extremely expensive. Also, if we compare the CPI with that inflation of apparel in Argentina was much higher than the last two years of the previous administration. Now, with the open of the economy, we have much more brands coming, and also for existing local brands, they can import easily, and the cost are lower, so they can transfer that to clients and we start to see much normal prices compared with the region.

Speaker #3: So now, with the opening of the economy, we have many more brands coming in. And also, for existing local brands, they can import more easily and the costs are lower.

Speaker #3: So they can transfer that to clients, and we start to see much more normal prices compared with the reason. Still, Argentina is expensive in some brands, so that is what is happening.

Matías Gaivironsky: Still, Argentina is expensive in some brands. That is what happening. Today we have, in terms of quantity, more or less the same level of tickets and traffic in the malls, but in prices are lower prices.

Speaker #3: So today we have, in terms of quantity, more or less the same level of tickets and traffic in the malls, but prices are lower.

Speaker #1: And in the same question, they are asking on the rental EBITDA, can you provide some detail on what costs the decline in the quarter and the margin compression?

Santiago Donato: In the same question, they are asking, on the rental EBITDA, can you provide some detail on what caused the decline in the quarter and the margin compression? I think you mentioned regarding the one-shot effects in malls, but related to the Q4s, that effect now, the decline in EBITDA.

Speaker #1: I think you mentioned regarding the 1 shot effects in malls. But related to the fourth quarters, that effect, the decline in EBITDA.

Speaker #3: Yeah, that was some costs that we have on the implementations of some programs of management, and also some investments that we recognized instead of transferring to the assets.

Matías Gaivironsky: Yeah, that was some costs that we have on implementations of some programs of management and also some investments that we recognize instead of transfer to the assets, we recognize it as a loss during the quarter. But are not recurrent going forward.

Speaker #3: We recognize it as a loss during the quarter. So but they're not recurrent going forward.

Santiago Donato: A question related to the financial part. Given the very strong results in the fiscal year, that was not reflected in the share price. The share price was down in the fiscal year. Considering that It is discounted. Do you consider adding to the dividend distribution a new program of repurchase of shares?

Speaker #1: Question related to the financial part. Given the very strong results in the fiscal year, that was not reflected in the share price. The share price was down in the fiscal year.

Speaker #1: And considering that it is discounted, do you consider following distributed adding to the dividend distribution a new program of repurchase of shares?

Matías Gaivironsky: It is discounted. Do you consider adding to the dividend distribution a new program of repurchase of shares? This is something that we are discussing internally and maybe it is an option. As you know, we did some buyback programs during the last two, three years. So it is something that we could consider.

Speaker #3: This is something that we are discussing internally, and maybe it's an option. As you know, we did some buyback programs during the last two or three years.

Matías Gaivironsky: This is something that we are discussing internally and maybe it is an option. As you know, we did some buyback programs during the last two, three years. So it is something that we could consider.

Speaker #3: So, it's something that we could consider.

Speaker #1: Well, another question related to dividends: Coming in 2027, our target dividend or dividend policy going forward.

Santiago Donato: Well, another question related to dividends coming in 2027, or target dividend or dividend policy going forward.

Matías Gaivironsky: As you know, we do not have a fixed dividend policy, but our behavior, you know that every time that the company can distribute dividends, we did it. So if you analyze probably IRSA in terms of dividend yield, was the highest dividend payer in Argentina for the last five years. We expect to maintain that behavior. We have to announce the dividend proposal to our shareholders meeting, I think it is next week. But always we analyze what is the financial condition of the company, the CapEx need, and if we feel comfortable, we distribute or we use part of the cash to distribute dividends. As I mentioned, we feel very comfortable with the cash position. We have USD 390 million. The cash generation for the next year appears that it will be very positive. So I think we will continue with the same line that the previous years.

Speaker #3: As you know, we don't have a fixed dividend policy, but our behavior—you know that every time the company could distribute dividends, we did it.

Speaker #3: So if you analyze, probably for years in terms of dividend yield, we were the highest dividend payer in Argentina for the last five years. We expect to maintain that behavior.

Speaker #3: We have to announce the dividend proposal to our shareholders' meeting, which I think is next week. But, as always, we analyze the financial condition of the company, the capex needs, and if we feel comfortable with distributing, we use part of the cash to distribute dividends.

Matías Gaivironsky: But always we analyze what is the financial condition of the company, the CapEx need, and if we feel comfortable, we distribute or we use part of the cash to distribute dividends. As I mentioned, we feel very comfortable with the cash position. We have USD 390 million. The cash generation for the next year appears that it will be very positive. So I think we will continue with the same line that the previous years.

Speaker #3: And as I mentioned, we feel very comfortable with the cash position. We have $390 million. The cash generation for the next year appears that it will be very positive.

Speaker #3: So, I think we will continue with the same line as the previous years.

Speaker #1: Okay. There are two questions on real estate projects. One is related to Ramblas: when are the construction works expected to begin? And on the same topic, many real estate companies are entering the data center business.

Santiago Donato: Okay. Here, there are two questions on real estate projects. One is related to Ramblas. When are the construction works expected to begin? On the same question, many real estate companies are entering into the data center business. Are you thinking on targeting that market as well?

Speaker #1: Are you thinking of targeting that market as well?

Speaker #2: Well, the works in Ramblas already began, as I said before. I suppose we're talking about the buildings, so the buildings should be starting late this year or maybe February or March.

Jorge Cruces: Well, the works in Ramblas already began. As I said before, I suppose we are talking about the buildings.

Santiago Donato: Yeah.

Jorge Cruces: The buildings should be starting late this year, or maybe February or March. We are starting to. They are able to start building now. It is something we have to do with the city, but they are going to be starting in the next six months, all the 20 buildings. Regarding data centers, we are looking into it. It is an intensive capital business, and we may be looking for strategic partners, maybe through a fund, but we are looking at that kind of business also. As we said in another webcast, we are also looking into the warehouses business.

Speaker #2: We're starting to—they're not able to start building now. It's something because of something we have to do with the city. But they're going to be starting in the next six months, all the buildings, all the 20 buildings.

Speaker #2: And regarding that data centers, we are looking into it. It's an intensive capital business. We may be looking for strategic partners. Maybe through a fund, but we are looking at that kind of business also.

Speaker #2: As we said in another webcast, we're also looking into the business.

Speaker #1: Thank you, Jorge. I have questions related to CapEx. If we can share some guidance on CapEx for next fiscal year, for 2027.

Santiago Donato: Thank you, Jorge. Questions related to CapEx, if we can share some guidance on CapEx for next fiscal year, for 2027.

Speaker #3: Yes. We will have probably a peak of capex during the year as we mentioned, we launched many projects altogether. So we are finishing with the development or we will continue with the development of these three with the expansion of the reconversion of with the new building in Zeta building for office for offices.

Matías Gaivironsky: Yes. We will have probably a peak of CapEx during the year. As we mentioned, we launched many projects altogether, so we are finishing with the development, or we will continue with the development of Distrito Diagonal, with the expansion of, or the reconversion of Al Oeste, with the new building in Zetta Building for offices. Also, we have to finish with some payments of some acquisitions that we did in the past. So it will not be a new investment, but there is a remaining installment that we have to pay. So altogether, we estimate USD 150 million, more or less, of CapEx for the year. That includes the recurring CapEx and all the expansions, the Ramblas, everything. So that is more or less. That does not include any new acquisitions. So on top of that, we could have other acquisitions during the year, but that is USD 150 million.

Speaker #3: Also, we have to finish with some payments of some acquisitions that we did in the past. So, it won't be a new investment, but there is a remaining installment that we have to pay.

Matías Gaivironsky: Also, we have to finish with some payments of some acquisitions that we did in the past. So it will not be a new investment, but there is a remaining installment that we have to pay. So altogether, we estimate USD 150 million, more or less, of CapEx for the year. That includes the recurring CapEx and all the expansions, the Ramblas, everything. So that is more or less. That does not include any new acquisitions. So on top of that, we could have other acquisitions during the year, but that is USD 150 million.

Speaker #3: So altogether, we estimate 150 million dollars, more or less, of capex for the year that include the recurrent capex and all the expansions, the Ramblas, everything.

Speaker #3: So, that is more or less it. That does not include any new acquisitions. So, on top of that, we could have other acquisitions during the year.

Speaker #3: But that is $150 million. What we haven't mentioned is that we also have a pipeline of some disposals and some stock of units that we want to sell.

Matías Gaivironsky: What we haven't mentioned is that also we have a pipeline of some disposals and some stock of units that we want to sell. So that also will be a source of cash for the year.

Speaker #3: So, that also will be a source of cash for the year.

Speaker #1: Another question coming from BDG. You mentioned increasing demand from international retailers and small spaces. Are these new leases being signed at higher rents than what we have been seeing?

Santiago Donato: Another question coming from BTG Pactual. You mentioned increasing demand from international retailers, more space. Are these new leases being signed at higher rents than what we have been seeing? Do you expect this demand to support meaningful rental growth across the broader market?

Speaker #1: And do you expect this demand to support meaningful rental growth across the broader market?

Speaker #3: No, not at higher rents. Probably are more or less the same that the current portfolio. But as you know, since part of our income came from tenant sales, we expect that if they perform better, that percentage of tenants will improve our rents.

Matías Gaivironsky: No, are not at higher rents. Probably are more or less the same than the current portfolio. But as you know, since part of our income comes from tenant sales, we expect that if they perform better, that percentage of tenants will improve our rents. But in general terms, agreements are more or less the same than the current agreements.

Speaker #3: But in general terms, agreements are more or less the same as the current agreements.

Speaker #1: Question related swap opportunities. How many more swap opportunities do you see in Ramblas? Are you going to keep moving forward with swaps rather than own developments?

Santiago Donato: Question related swap opportunities. How many more swap opportunities do you see in Ramblas del Plata? Are you going to keep moving forward with swaps rather than own developments?

Speaker #2: Well, as we said before, we don't have this first phase has only eight laps to go. So some of them might be swaps. But in the future, we're going to continue with the swaps.

Jorge Cruces: Well, as we said before, this first phase has only eight lots to go. Some of them might be swaps. But in the future, we are going to continue with the swaps. But then again, in the second and the third phase, we are willing to do things by ourselves. We are willing to do things with international partners that are just starting to become interested in the development. So I think we are going to be a lot more active regarding building ourselves some buildings, by ourselves and with strategic international partners. But that is in the second and the third phase. I do not think that is going to happen in the first phase.

Speaker #2: But then again, in the second and the third phase, we're willing to do things by ourselves. We're willing to do things with international partners that are starting to become interested in the development.

Speaker #2: So I think we're going to be a lot more active regarding building ourselves some buildings by ourselves and with strategic international partners. But that's in the second and the third phase.

Speaker #2: I don't think that's going to happen in the first phase.

Speaker #1: Here's a question. It says, "A bit of rental seems to have a stable growth trajectory. With so much exciting development beyond just Ramblas, what financial guidance can you give for the development, non-rental segment in 2027?"

Santiago Donato: Here there is a question. It says, "EBITDA for rental seems to have a stable growth trajectory. With so much exciting development beyond just Ramblas, what financial guidance can you give for the development non-rental segment in 2027?" Probably, the thing is here that we have done some other swaps, that they are going to enter, probably we are going to receive the units by 2027, 2028, 2029. Ramblas is so large, it is a major project. So it will bring a lot of units to be sold, since 2028, and we will have a lot of cash. But we generally do swap transactions and sell units. It is still a marginal segment, and this is why we do not show it in our EBITDA, because it is not recurrent, it is still marginal. But, we have done a Montevideo swap last year. In Córdoba, we swapped another lot for a building.

Speaker #1: Probably, the thing here is that we have done some other swaps that they are going to enter. Probably, we are going to receive the units by 2027, 2028, or 2029.

Speaker #1: Ramblas is so large, so it's a major project. So we'll bring a lot of units to be sold since 2028. And we'll add a lot of cash.

Santiago Donato: So it will bring a lot of units to be sold, since 2028, and we will have a lot of cash. But we generally do swap transactions and sell units. It is still a marginal segment, and this is why we do not show it in our EBITDA, because it is not recurrent, it is still marginal. But, we have done a Montevideo swap last year. In Córdoba, we swapped another lot for a building.

Speaker #1: But we generally do swap transactions and sell units. It's still a marginal segment. And this is why we do not show it in our EBITDA because it's not recurrent, still marginal.

Speaker #1: But we have done in Montevideo swap last year, in Córdoba we swapped another lot for a building. And we all the time we have a lot of lots with residential or commercial destiny that we are swapping and receiving units in one or two years later.

Santiago Donato: All the time, we have a lot of lots with a residential or commercial destiny that we are swapping and receiving units in 1 or 2 years later.

Speaker #2: Yeah, we're going to stop swaps in La Plata also.

Jorge Cruces: Yeah. We are going to start swaps in La Plata also.

Speaker #1: La Plata, they are asking about 2027. But yes, we are going to increase that segment as well.

Santiago Donato: La Plata. They are asking about 2027. We are going to increase that segment as well.

Speaker #2: But I believe there are going to be swaps in La Plata. There are going to be swaps, maybe in Rosario. So, there's going to be.

Jorge Cruces: I believe there is going to be swaps in La Plata. There is going to be swaps maybe in Rosario. There is going to be

Speaker #1: Swaps, yes, but then you receive the cash probably when you sell later, no?

Santiago Donato: Swaps, yes. Then you receive the cash probably when you sell later on.

Speaker #2: And we might also be selling some.

Jorge Cruces: We might be selling also some

Speaker #1: Also selling some directly.

Santiago Donato: Selling some directly.

Speaker #2: Some directly in cash.

Jorge Cruces: Some directly in cash.

Speaker #1: Yeah. It's a sector that will increase in the upcoming years. For sure. Here there is one question related to general shopping malls market in Argentina.

Santiago Donato: Yeah. It's a sector that will increase in the coming years, for sure. Here there is one question related to general shopping malls market in Argentina. "How are the cap rates in the private markets? There are not many transactions in the market, so it's not easy to say a cap rate. But how do you see the sector and potential growth for the sector and general cap rates of the transactions?

Matías Gaivironsky: Yeah. It's a sector that will increase in the coming years, for sure.

Santiago Donato: Here there is one question related to general shopping malls market in Argentina. "How are the cap rates in the private markets? There are not many transactions in the market, so it's not easy to say a cap rate. But how do you see the sector and potential growth for the sector and general cap rates of the transactions?

Speaker #1: How are the cap rates in the private markets? There are no many transactions in the market, so it's not easy to see to say a cap rate.

Speaker #1: But how do you see the sector and the potential growth for the sector, and what are the general cap rates of the transactions?

Speaker #3: Let me address that. I think when we compare Argentina with the region, Argentina is very low penetrated. Why is that? Because nobody invested in Argentina during the last, I would say, 30 years or 20 years.

Jorge Cruces: Let me address that. I think, when we compare Argentina with the region, Argentina is very low penetrated. Why is that? Well, it's because nobody invested in Argentina during the last, I would say, 30 years or 20 years. That means that there are opportunities for new markets and some expansions. We are not seeing a market very competitive in that regard. I think we are, of course, one of the leaders in this industry, and we are doing directly ourselves only one shopping mall. The rest, we acquired two this year. There are not so many transactions or very liquid market. But I think that the potential is good. If we see more opportunities for acquisitions, definitely something that we are actively looking for, and we are very well prepared to close transactions. So we still see potential in the segment. Probably some malls, some outlets.

Speaker #3: That means that there are opportunities for new markets and some expansions. But we are not seeing a market that is very competitive in that regard.

Speaker #3: I think we are of course one of the leaders in this industry. And we are doing directly ourselves only one shopping mall. The rest we acquired two and but this year.

Jorge Cruces: I think we are, of course, one of the leaders in this industry, and we are doing directly ourselves only one shopping mall. The rest, we acquired two this year. There are not so many transactions or very liquid market. But I think that the potential is good. If we see more opportunities for acquisitions, definitely something that we are actively looking for, and we are very well prepared to close transactions. So we still see potential in the segment. Probably some malls, some outlets.

Speaker #3: But there are not so many transactions or very liquid market. But I think that the potential is good. So if we see more opportunities for acquisitions, definitely something that we are actively looking for.

Speaker #3: And we are very well prepared to close transactions. So we still see potential in the segment—probably some malls, some outlets, as there are not so many shopping or outlet malls in Argentina.

Jorge Cruces: There are not so many shopping or outlet malls in Argentina. There we see more potential. That depends. You need, first of all, a very populated area with land available, and there are not so many opportunities in Argentina for that. We already are in the main markets of Argentina, finishing the acquisition in Mar del Plata and with the development in La Plata. I think we reach all the important cities of Argentina.

Speaker #3: So there we see more potential. But that's dependent. You need first of all, a very populated area with land available. And there are not so many opportunities in Argentina for that.

Speaker #3: We already are in the main markets of Argentina, finishing the acquisition in Mar del Plata and with the development in La Plata. I think we reach all the important cities of Argentina.

Speaker #1: Yeah, the top 10, probably in terms of GDP, per capita, or population.

Santiago Donato: Yeah, the top 10 probably.

Jorge Cruces: Yeah

Santiago Donato: In terms of GDP per capita or population.

Speaker #3: But we still see potential for new developments and acquisitions.

Jorge Cruces: We still see potential for new developments and acquisition.

Speaker #1: I have one last question. Are you planning to stay in the hotel business going forward, or could you consider full-time investments?

Santiago Donato: I have one last question. "Are you planning to stay in the hotel business going forward, or would you consider full divestment?

Speaker #2: Well, actually, it's the only segment that we don't manage ourselves. It's managed by a partners. So maybe we might dispose both hotels in the city of Buenos Aires, maybe, in the near future.

Jorge Cruces: Well, actually, it is the only segment that we do not manage ourselves. It is managed by our partners. Maybe we might dispose both hotels in the city of Buenos Aires, maybe, in the near future. I do not imagine us selling our hotel in Llao Llao in Bariloche. We are very proud. It is a landmark. We might be selling the hotels in the city of Buenos Aires. We bought those hotels in 1998. We do not manage the hotels. We have not bought any more hotels. It came to be a small business for us. Maybe it does not make sense to keep those hotels. We should grow or we should sell. That is what I believe. I do not imagine growing, so I might imagine most likely selling.

Speaker #2: I don't imagine us selling our hotel in São João and Bariloche. We're very proud. It's a landmark but we might be selling the hotels in the city of Buenos Aires.

Speaker #2: We've bought those hotels in 1998. We don't manage the hotels. We haven't bought any more hotels. So it came to be a small business for us.

Jorge Cruces: We bought those hotels in 1998. We do not manage the hotels. We have not bought any more hotels. It came to be a small business for us. Maybe it does not make sense to keep those hotels. We should grow or we should sell. That is what I believe. I do not imagine growing, so I might imagine most likely selling.

Speaker #2: So maybe it doesn't make sense to keep those hotels or we should grow or we should sell. That's what I believe. And I don't imagine growing.

Speaker #2: So, I might imagine most likely selling.

Speaker #1: Thank you, Jorge. Well, we conclude the Q&A session with this. If there are no more questions—I don't see any more—so we now turn to Matías for his closing remarks.

Santiago Donato: Thank you, Jorge. We conclude with this the Q&A session, if there are no more questions. I do not see any more. We now turn to Matías for his closing remarks.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Santi. So looking ahead, we have a very challenging year in terms of finishing all the projects that we launched. We are much more aggressive than in the past for new developments.

Matías Gaivironsky: Thank you, Santi. Looking ahead, we have a very challenging year in terms of finishing all the projects that we launched. We are much more aggressive than in the past for new developments. We have to finish the Distrito Diagonal, Al Oeste, Los Gallegos, the expansion of the Zetta Building, Edificio del Plata, infrastructure of Ramblas del Plata, some CapEx expansion of our existing shopping malls. We think that the team is ready. We are working heavily to finish all the projects. We are very happy on what happened with Ramblas del Plata, and we expect to see the first buildings construction during this fiscal year, so a lot of excitement there. On the financial front, as we mentioned, we anticipated what could be a volatile year in Argentina. We are ready to keep developing and expanding our properties without the need to tap the market again.

Speaker #3: We have to finish the Distrito Diagonal, Aloeste, Los Gaceos, the expansion of the Zeta Building, Edificio El Plata, the infrastructure of Ramblas, and some capex expansion of our existing shopping mall.

Speaker #3: So we think that the team is ready. We are working heavily to finish all the projects. We are very happy on what happened with Ramblas and we expect to see the first buildings construction during this fiscal year.

Matías Gaivironsky: We are very happy on what happened with Ramblas del Plata, and we expect to see the first buildings construction during this fiscal year, so a lot of excitement there. On the financial front, as we mentioned, we anticipated what could be a volatile year in Argentina. We are ready to keep developing and expanding our properties without the need to tap the market again.

Speaker #3: So a lot of excitement there. On the financial front, as I mentioned, we anticipated what could be a volatile year in Argentina so we are ready to keep developing and expanding our properties without the need to tap the market again.

Speaker #3: So I think the company is very well prepared. So we hope to see good results again during the next fiscal year. So thank you very much for your participation and see you next quarter.

Matías Gaivironsky: I think the company is very well prepared. We hope to see good results again during the next fiscal year. Thank you very much for your participation and see you next quarter.

Speaker #1: Have a nice day. Bye-bye.

Santiago Donato: Have a nice day. Bye-bye.

Speaker #2: Bye-bye.

Matías Gaivironsky: Bye-bye.

Operator: Goodbye.

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