Q3 2026 CBRE Group Inc Earnings Call

October 22, 2026

Operator 3: Greetings and welcome to the Q3 2026 CBRE Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Chandni Luthra. Thank you. You may begin.

Operator: Greetings and welcome to the Q3 2026 CBRE Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Chandni Luthra. Thank you. You may begin.

Speaker #1: Greetings and welcome to the third quarter 2026 CBRE earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation.

Speaker #1: If anyone should require operator assistance, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Shandi Luthra.

Speaker #1: Thank you. You may begin.

Chandni Luthra: Good morning, everyone, and welcome to CBRE's Q3 2026 Earnings Conference Call. Earlier today, we posted a presentation deck on our website that you can use to follow along with our prepared remarks and an Excel file that contains additional supplemental materials. Today's presentation contains forward-looking statements, including, without limitation, statements concerning our business outlook, business plans, capital allocation strategy, as well as our earnings, net leverage, and free cash flow outlook. These statements involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results and trends to differ materially. For a full discussion of the risks and other factors that may impact these statements, please refer to this morning's earnings release and our other SEC filings. We have provided reconciliations of the non-GAAP financial measures discussed on our call to the most directly comparable GAAP measures, together with explanations of these measures in our presentation deck appendix.

Speaker #2: Good morning, everyone, and welcome to CBRE's third quarter 2026 earnings conference call. Earlier today, we posted a presentation deck on our website that you can use to follow along with our prepared remarks and an Excel file that contains additional supplemental materials.

Speaker #2: Today's presentation contains forward-looking statements, including without limitation, statements concerning our business outlook, business plans, capital allocation strategy, as well as our earnings, net leverage, and free cash flow outlook.

Speaker #2: These statements involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results and trends to differ materially. For a full discussion of the risks and other factors that may impact these statements, please refer to this morning's earnings release and our other SEC filings.

Speaker #2: We've provided reconciliations of the non-cap financial measures discussed on our call to the most directly comparable gap measures together with explanations of these measures in our presentation deck appendix.

Chandni Luthra: Throughout our remarks, when we cite financial performance relative to expectations, we are referring to actual results against the outlook we provided on our Q2 2026 earnings call in July, unless otherwise noted. All growth rates we cite are in USD, unless otherwise noted. Also, as a reminder, our resilient businesses include facilities management, critical infrastructure services, property management, project management, loan servicing, valuations, other portfolio services, and recurring investment management fees. Our transactional businesses are comprised of property sales, leasing, mortgage origination, carried interest and incentive fee in the investment management business, and development fees. I am joined on today's call by Bob Sulentic, our Chair and CEO, and Emma Giamartino, our Chief Financial Officer. Now please turn to slide 3 as I turn the call over to Bob.

Chandni Luthra: Throughout our remarks, when we cite financial performance relative to expectations, we are referring to actual results against the outlook we provided on our Q2 2026 Earnings call in July, unless otherwise noted. All growth rates we cite are in USD, unless otherwise noted. Also, as a reminder, our resilient businesses include facilities management, critical infrastructure services, property management, project management, loan servicing, valuations, other portfolio services, and recurring investment management fees. Our transactional businesses are comprised of property sales, leasing, mortgage origination, carried interest and incentive fee in the investment management business, and development fees. I am joined on today's call by Bob Sulentic, our Chair and CEO, and Emma Giamartino, our Chief Financial Officer. Now please turn to slide 3 as I turn the call over to Bob.

Speaker #2: Throughout our remarks, when we cite financial performance relative to expectations, we are referring to actual results against the outlook we've provided on our second quarter 2026 earnings call in July, unless otherwise noted.

Speaker #2: All growth rates we cite are in US dollars unless otherwise noted. Also, as a reminder, our resilient businesses include facilities management, critical infrastructure services, property management, project management, loan servicing, valuations, other portfolio services, and recurring investment management fees.

Speaker #2: Our transactional businesses are comprised of property sales, leasing, mortgage origination, carried interest and incentive fee in the investment management business, and development fee. I'm joined on today's call by Bob Sulentic, our chair and CEO, and Emma Giamartino, our chief financial officer.

Speaker #2: Now, please turn to slide 3 as I turn the call over to Bob.

Bob Sulentic: Thank you, Chandni, and good morning, everyone. CBRE produced another quarter of strong financial results and continued to make strategic gains in targeted areas of our business. Financially, core EPS improved 28% on a 13% revenue increase with both resilient and transactional businesses growing by double digits. Strategically, we continued to advance both our critical infrastructure services business line, which operates as part of the BOE segment, as well as the broader infrastructure services work we perform across the company. As a reminder, our critical infrastructure services business line primarily entails network infrastructure services, MEP projects, and facilities management for data centers. Our acquisition of Onnec, which we announced on Tuesday, fits within this line of business. We expect critical infrastructure services to generate nearly $4.5 billion of revenue in 2027.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Chandni, and good morning, everyone. CBRE produced another quarter of strong financial results and continued to make strategic gains in targeted areas of our business.

Speaker #3: Financially, core EPS improved 28% on a 13% revenue increase, with both resilient and transactional businesses growing by double digits. Strategically, we continued to advance both our critical infrastructure services business line which operates as part of the BOE segment, as well as the broader infrastructure services work we perform across the company.

Speaker #3: As a reminder, our critical infrastructure services business line primarily entails network infrastructure services, MEP projects, and facilities management for data centers. Our acquisition of ONIC, which we announced on Tuesday, fits within this line of business.

Speaker #3: We expect critical infrastructure services to generate nearly $4.5 billion of revenue. In 2027, outside of the critical infrastructure services business line, our infrastructure services work consists primarily of overseeing the construction of transportation and energy assets, along with data centers within project management, and arranging the sales, leasing, and financing of data centers and advisory services.

Bob Sulentic: Outside of the critical infrastructure services business line, our infrastructure services work consists primarily of overseeing the construction of transportation and energy assets, along with data centers within project management, and arranging the sales, leasing, and financing of data centers in Advisory Services. Taking this work into account, we expect our total infrastructure services revenue to reach nearly $7 billion in 2027, growing more than 40% from this year. Any data center land sales in our development business would be in addition to this revenue. Looking ahead, two significant competing dynamics are impacting our business and are offsetting each other. First, we should see continued outsized growth and investment in our infrastructure services businesses. Second, given the interest rate environment, we are expecting downward pressure in our businesses that are driven by the real estate capital markets. Now I will turn the call over to Emma.

Speaker #3: Taking this work into account, we expect our total infrastructure services revenue to reach nearly $7 billion in 2027, growing more than 40% from this year.

Speaker #3: Any data center land sales in our development business would be in addition to this revenue. Looking ahead, two significant competing dynamics are impacting our business and our offsetting each other.

Speaker #3: First, we should see continued outsized growth and investment in our Infrastructure Services businesses. Second, given the interest rate environment, we are expecting downward pressure in our businesses that are driven by the real estate capital markets.

Speaker #3: And now I'll turn the call over to Emma.

Emma Giamartino: Thank you, Bob, and good morning, everyone. I will begin by providing detail on our segment results. Overall Advisory Services revenue rose 11%. Global leasing revenue grew 6%, with mixed results across regions. EMEA led leasing revenue with 21% growth, where the UK was the standout. APAC grew 2%, with strength in India and the Pacific offset by softness in North Asia. In the US, leasing revenue rose 4%, supported by industrial, up 16%, while office leasing dipped 2%. We have strong pipelines and expect global leasing revenue to grow at a low double-digit rate in Q4. Global property sales revenue increased 28%, led by the US, up 37%, driven by accelerated growth in industrial and retail. Outside the US, sales revenue grew 8% in EMEA, with particularly strong growth in the UK, up 33%, and 10% in Asia Pacific, led by solid growth in Japan.

Speaker #4: Thank you, Bob. And good morning, everyone. I will begin by providing detail on our segment results. Overall advisory services revenue rose 11%. Global leasing revenue grew 6%, with mixed results across regions.

Speaker #4: EMIA led leasing revenue with 21% growth for the UK, which was the standout. APAC grew 2%, with strength in India and the Pacific, offset by softness in North Asia.

Speaker #4: In the US, leasing revenue rose 4%, supported by industrial up 16%, while office leasing dipped 2%. We have strong pipelines and expect global leasing revenue to grow at a low double-digit rate in the fourth quarter.

Speaker #4: Global property sales revenue increased 28%, led by the US up 37%, driven by accelerated growth in industrial and retail. Outside the US, sales revenue grew 8% in EMIA, with particularly strong growth in the UK up 33% and 10% in Asia Pacific, led by solid growth in Japan.

Emma Giamartino: Mortgage origination revenue rose 1% as a double-digit increase from private capital sources was offset by a decline in government agency lending. Private capital activity was driven by debt funds and insurance companies as borrowers preferred floating rate structures in a rising rate environment. The agencies have a hard time competing in a market environment with higher long-term rates. Advisory SOP grew 16%. Turning to Building Operations and Experience, revenue increased 17%. Growth continued to be led by critical infrastructure services, where revenue increased 80%. The drivers were strong hyperscaler demand for our data center services solutions, as well as contributions from last November's Pearce acquisition. As Bob mentioned, we have agreed to acquire Onnec and expect to close the acquisition around the end of the year. If Onnec were included, the critical infrastructure services business line would have generated approximately $3 billion of revenue over the past 12 months.

Speaker #4: Mortgage origination revenue rose 1%, as a double-digit increase from private capital sources was offset by a decline in government agency lending. Private capital activity was driven by debt funds and insurance companies, as borrowers preferred floating-rate structures in a rising-rate environment.

Speaker #4: The agencies have a hard time competing in a market environment with higher long-term rates. Advisory SOP grew 16%. Turning to building operations and experience, revenue increased 17%.

Speaker #4: Growth continued to be led by critical infrastructure services, where revenue increased 80%. The drivers were strong hyperscaler demand, for our data center services solutions, as well as contributions from last November's Pierce acquisition.

Speaker #4: As Bob mentioned, we've agreed to acquire ONIC, and expect to close the acquisition around the end of the year. If ONIC were included, the critical infrastructure services business line would have generated approximately $3 billion of revenue over the past 12 months.

Emma Giamartino: Facilities management revenue grew 13%. Enterprise facilities management growth was led by technology, financial services, and energy clients, while local facilities management was paced by more than 25% growth in the Americas, as well as continued strength in Asia Pacific and Western Europe. BOE SOP grew 21%. In project management, revenue grew 3%, while pass-through costs declined 4%. We saw a slowdown in real estate capital spending by corporates. This was significantly offset by strong growth in infrastructure revenue. Project management SOP grew 9%, despite a one-time cost in APAC related to a client default, which lowered the growth rate by 6 percentage points. In Real Estate Investments, segment operating profit rose to $166 million from $73 million in the prior year quarter. The improved performance was driven by data center land sales as well as the monetization of other assets.

Speaker #4: Facilities management revenue grew 13%. Enterprise facilities management growth was led by technology, financial services, and energy clients, while local facilities management was paced by more than 25% growth in the Americas, as well as continued strength in Asia Pacific and Western Europe.

Speaker #4: BOE SOP grew 21%. In project management, revenue grew 3%, while pass-through costs declined 4%. We saw a slowdown in real estate capital spending by corporates, this was significantly offset by strong growth in infrastructure revenue.

Speaker #4: Project management SOP grew 9%, despite a one-time cost in APAC related to a client default, which lowered the growth rate by 6 percentage points.

Speaker #4: In real estate investments, segment operating profit rose to $166 million from $73 million in the prior year quarter. The improved performance was driven by data center land sales, as well as the monetization of other assets.

Emma Giamartino: We believe the embedded gains in our development portfolio now total about $800 million, adjusting the value for the recent increase in interest rates. Any data center land sales would generate additional profits over and above the $800 million. In Investment Management, operating profit declined 12% as higher recurring asset management fees were offset by lower co-investment returns. We ended the quarter with more than $155 billion of AUM and raised approximately $2 billion of new capital, up from $1.6 billion in Q2. Now I will turn to free cash flow and capital allocation. Free cash flow totaled $1.8 billion on a trailing 12-month basis. For the full year, we remain on track to achieve free cash flow conversion within our target range of 75% to 85% and expect to end the year with slightly above one turn of net leverage.

Speaker #4: We believe the embedded gains in our development portfolio now total about $800 million, adjusting the value for the recent increase in interest rates. Any data center land sales would generate additional profits over and above the $800 million.

Speaker #4: In investment management, operating profit declined 12%, as higher recurring asset management fees were offset by lower co-investment returns. We ended the quarter with more than $155 billion of AUM and raised approximately $2 billion of new capital, up from $1.6 billion in the second quarter.

Speaker #4: Now I'll turn to free cash flow and capital allocation. Free cash flow totaled $1.8 billion on a trailing 12-month basis. For the full year, we remain on track to achieve free cash flow conversion within our target range of $75 to $85% and expect to end the year with slightly above one turn of net leverage.

Emma Giamartino: We continue to prioritize M&A in areas benefiting from secular tailwinds, with a particular focus on data centers and infrastructure. You have seen this in the Onnec acquisition. Turning to our outlook, we are maintaining our previously stated 2026 core EPS guidance in the range of $7.80 to $7.90, reflecting 23% growth at the midpoint. As Bob indicated, we are seeing competing dynamics in our business. We expect to see continued outsized growth in our infrastructure businesses. This will be somewhat offset by lower growth in our real estate capital markets-driven businesses. As a result, we continue to see a path to 15% core EPS growth in 2027. With that, operator, we will open the line for questions.

Speaker #4: We continue to prioritize M&A in areas benefiting from secular tailwinds, with a particular focus on data centers and infrastructure. You've seen this in the ONIC acquisition.

Speaker #4: Turning to our outlook, we are maintaining our previously stated 2026 core EPS guidance in the range of $7.80 to $7.90, reflecting 23% growth at the midpoint.

Speaker #4: As Bob indicated, we are seeing competing dynamics in our business. We expect to see continued outsized growth in our infrastructure businesses. This will be somewhat offset by lower growth in our real estate capital markets-driven businesses.

Speaker #4: As a result, we continue to see a path to 15% core EPS growth in 2027. With that, operator, we will open the line for questions.

Operator 3: Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two to remove yourself from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up the handset before pressing the star keys. Also, when asking questions, we ask everyone to please limit themselves to one question and one follow-up question to allow everyone a chance. Our first question comes from the line of Anthony Paolone with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Operator: Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two to remove yourself from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up the handset before pressing the star keys. Also, when asking questions, we ask everyone to please limit themselves to one question and one follow-up question to allow everyone a chance. Our first question comes from the line of Anthony Paolone with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker #1: Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad.

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Speaker #1: Also, when asking questions, we ask everyone to please limit themselves to one question and one follow-up question to allow everyone a chance. Our first question comes from the line of Anthony Pallone with JPMorgan.

Speaker #1: Please proceed with your question.

Anthony Paolone: Okay. Thank you. Good morning. My first question is with regards to the path to 2027 growth. What do you think most likely gets you there now in comparison to maybe what you thought the components were a few months ago, and can you maybe get into a little bit of the context on what may need to happen or just how at risk is that 15%?

Speaker #2: Okay. Thank you. Good morning. My first question is with regards to the path to 2027 growth. What do you think most likely gets you there now in comparison to maybe what you thought the components were a few months ago?

Speaker #2: And can you maybe get into a little bit of the context on what may need to happen or just how at risk is that 15%?

Emma Giamartino: Yeah. Thanks, Tony. As both Bob and I mentioned in our remarks, we are seeing competing dynamics across our business. Of course, we are seeing pressure on our real estate capital markets business, but that is being offset in a big way by outsized growth in our resilient businesses, notably infrastructure services and data centers. I want to reiterate a number that we put in our press release around Onnec. Next year in 2027, we are expecting our critical infrastructure services revenue to reach $4.5 billion and our infrastructure revenue to reach $7 billion. So there is a tremendous amount of growth there. Walking high level through the segments, starting with the easy segments, Building Operations and Experience and project management, we expect them to grow consistently with how they have grown historically.

Speaker #4: Yeah. Thanks, Tony. So as both Bob and I mentioned in our remarks, we are seeing competing dynamics across our business. Of course, we're seeing pressure on our real estate capital markets business, but that is being offset in a big way by outsized growth in our resilient businesses, notably infrastructure services and data centers.

Speaker #4: And I want to reiterate a number that we put in our press release around ONIC next year in 2027. We're expecting our critical infrastructure services revenue to reach $4.5 billion, and our infrastructure revenue to reach $7 billion.

Speaker #4: So there's a tremendous amount of growth there. Walking high-level through the segments, starting with the easy segments, BOE and project management, we expect them to grow consistently with how they've grown historically.

Emma Giamartino: Advisory will moderate somewhat more than what we expected 90 days ago, as you would expect with slowing capital markets, but it will grow next year. Within Real Estate Investments, our investment management business will be roughly flat, and we expect to monetize development assets, including data center land sales, but there is a wide range of outcomes there. We will also likely have more M&A. We have a strong pipeline, particularly in the data center space, and we expect to do more in 2027. So if you put that all together, we are confident in our path to 15%. I do want to say this is a great example of how our business model is working the way we have intended it and the way we have shaped it. Even in an environment where our capital markets business are slowing, our resilient businesses are able to offset that and deliver double-digit growth.

Speaker #4: Advisory will moderate somewhat more than what we expected 90 days ago, as you'd expect with slowing capital markets, but it will grow next year.

Speaker #4: And then within REI, our investment management business will be roughly flat, and we expect to monetize development assets, including data center land sales, but there is a wide range of outcomes there.

Speaker #4: We'll also likely have more M&A. We have a strong pipeline, particularly in the data center space, and we expect to do more in 2027.

Speaker #4: So, if you put that all together, we are confident in our path to 15%. And I do want to say this is a great example of how our business model is working the way we've intended it and the way we've shaped it, even in an environment where our capital markets businesses are slowing.

Emma Giamartino: Even in an environment where our capital markets business are slowing, our resilient businesses are able to offset that and deliver double-digit growth.

Speaker #4: Our resilient businesses are able to offset that and deliver double-digit growth.

Anthony Paolone: Got it. Thank you for all that. My follow-up is on Building Operations and Experience and just the enterprise facilities business there being under a bit of pressure. I guess, what has changed, and what are you really seeing there, especially considering how recurring that business seems to be, and it is three quarters into the year. I guess, what has changed?

Speaker #2: Got it. Thank you for all of that. And then just my follow-up is on BOE and the enterprise facilities business there, being under a bit of pressure.

Speaker #2: I guess, what's changed and what are you really seeing there, especially considering how recurring that business seems to be in its three-quarters into the year?

Speaker #2: I guess, what's changed?

Bob Sulentic: Yeah, Tony, what is going on there that is notable is that we have a couple accounts that are problematic that we have decided to take on and work out and get resolved. In doing that, it is putting some downward pressure on our earnings, particularly in the Q4 in that business. That has happened from time to time over the years. It is a little bit like brokerage recruiting. The market gets frothy, it gets more and more competitive, and you end up with some circumstances. You end up with some broker hires or some outsourcing or enterprise accounts that do not have the characteristic you would want. We have decided to really take that on now and try to change that circumstance going forward.

Speaker #3: Yeah, Tony, what's going on there that's notable is that we have a couple of counts that are problematic that we've decided to take on and work out and get resolved.

Speaker #3: That, and in doing so, is putting some downward pressure on our earnings, particularly in the fourth quarter in that business. That's happened from time to time over the years.

Speaker #3: It's a little bit like brokerage recruiting. The market gets frothy. It gets more and more competitive. And you end up with some circumstances you end up with some broker hires or from some outsourcing or enterprise accounts that don't have the characteristic you would want.

Speaker #3: We have decided to really take that on now and try to change that circumstance going forward. So we're going to, in a marketing sense in particular, in a solutioning sense, we're going to approach it a little differently than we have in the past to try to get that out of our system kind of permanently.

Bob Sulentic: So we're going to, in a marketing sense in particular, in a solutioning sense, we're going to approach it a little differently than we have in the past to try to get that out of our system kind of permanently. We'll never get it totally out of there, but we are going to be subject to the impact of restructuring a couple of those accounts in Q4. And that's what you're seeing there.

Speaker #3: We'll never get it totally out of there, but we are going to be subject to the impact of restructuring a couple of those accounts in the fourth quarter and that's what you're seeing there.

Anthony Paolone: Okay. Thanks for the details.

Speaker #2: Okay. Thanks for the details.

Operator 3: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Stephen Sheldon with William Blair. Please proceed with your question.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Stephen Sheldon with William Blair. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Stephen Sheldon with William Blair. Please proceed with your question.

Stephen Sheldon: Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. First, just on Capital Markets, can you just maybe dig into more on what you're seeing out there later in Q3 and into the last few weeks or early in Q4? And specifically, are you starting to see any delays or cancellations in transactions? And then maybe tie it into the last, I guess, how wide of a range of outcomes could there be for Capital Markets looking into next year, assuming a somewhat similar environment to the one we're in right now? I guess, how are you thinking about that?

Speaker #5: Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. First, just on capital markets, can you maybe dig in more on what you're seeing out there?

Speaker #5: Later in the third quarter and into the last few weeks of kind of early in the fourth quarter, and specifically, are you starting to see any delays or cancellations in transactions?

Speaker #5: And then maybe tied into the last question, I guess, how wide of a range of outcomes could there be for capital markets looking into next year, assuming a somewhat similar environment to the one we're in right now?

Speaker #5: I guess—how are you thinking about that?

Bob Sulentic: Yeah, Steven, this is Bob. I will comment, and then I will let Emma comment. We are seeing exactly what you would expect to see. The CapEx rates have gone up. Deals that were under contract are getting re-traded. Deals that might have otherwise gone under contract are not happening. We are seeing refinancings in some places that we thought we would see sales. All of the stuff you typically see when the capital markets are both uncertain and interest rates go up. Our view is that part of what is going on here is not just the interest rate situation and what interest rates are, but what the uncertainty around interest rates. It is our view that that could settle out in the back half of next year and be helpful. Of course, none of us know what is going to happen.

Speaker #3: Yeah. Stephen, this is Bob. I'll comment, and then I'll let Emma comment. So we're seeing exactly what you would expect to see. The cap rates have gone up.

Speaker #3: Deals that were under contract are getting retraded. Deals that might have otherwise gone under contract aren't. Aren't happening. We're seeing refinancings in some places that we thought would see sales.

Speaker #3: All of this stuff you typically see when the capital markets are both uncertain and interest rates go up. Our view is that part of what's going on here isn't just the interest rate situation and what interest rates are, but what the uncertainty around interest rates.

Speaker #3: It's our view that that could settle out in the back half of next year and be helpful. Of course, none of us know what's going to happen.

Bob Sulentic: As a result, in investment sales, mortgage origination, development, investment management, we are seeing an impact, and that is baked into what Emma described in terms of our outlook for the business for the rest of this year and into next year. Emma, you may want to add onto that.

Speaker #3: As a result, though, in investment sales, mortgage origination, development, investment management, we're seeing an impact, and that's baked into what Emma described in terms of her outlook for the business for the rest of this year and into next year.

Speaker #3: And Emma, you may want to add on to that.

Emma Giamartino: Yeah. I will just add that throughout the Q3, as you would expect, we saw a slowdown in our capital markets business, particularly in September. Going into Q4, we expect capital markets overall to be roughly flat, and that to extend into about the H1 of next year. What we really need is for rates to stabilize. The volatility and the uncertainty is what is driving a pause or a hold or even delaying deals to 2027. We expect that stability to come in the back half of next year. Then, of course, if that does not come or things change, the results will be different.

Speaker #4: Yeah. I'll just add that throughout the third quarter, as you'd expect, we saw a slowdown in our capital markets business, particularly in September. And going into Q4, we expect capital markets overall to be roughly flat, and that to extend into as Bob said, the first half of next year.

Speaker #4: What we really need is for rates to stabilize. The volatility and the uncertainty are what's driving a pause or a hold, or even delaying deals to 2027.

Speaker #4: And we expect that stability to come in the back half of next year. And then, of course, if that doesn't come or things change, the results will be different.

Stephen Sheldon: Got it. That is really helpful. On project management, and apologies if I missed some detail around this, but I think you called out in the presentation that the growth was tempered by weaker corporate capital spending. Just, I guess, any detail on where you are seeing that, and maybe timing-wise, when that started to slow down a little bit. Just any details there. Thanks.

Speaker #5: Got it. That's really helpful. And then on project management, and I apologize if I missed some detail around this, but I think you called out in the presentation that growth was tempered by weaker corporate capital spending.

Speaker #5: Just, I guess, any detail on where you're seeing that and kind of maybe timing-wise, kind of when that started to slow down a little bit?

Speaker #5: Just any details there. Thanks.

Bob Sulentic: Yeah. I think it has been a little slower throughout the year. You have all kinds of things going on. You do have some uncertainty in the economy, which causes corporates to be a little more conservative. We do a lot of work for, as you know, big tech clients that have moved their spending away from kind of traditional legacy real estate type investment into critical infrastructure, data centers. I think you are seeing some of that. We saw, I think, a little bit of concentration and slowdown in healthcare. So it was a mixture of things. I think we were not that surprised by that. Emma, do you have something you want to add there?

Speaker #3: Yeah. I think it's been a little slower throughout the year. You have all kinds of things going on. You do have some uncertainty in the economy, which causes corporates to be a little more conservative.

Speaker #3: You have some we do a lot of work for, as you know, big tech clients that have moved their spending away from kind of traditional legacy real estate-type investment into infrastructure, critical infrastructure, data centers.

Speaker #3: I think you're seeing some of that. We saw, I think, a little bit of concentration and slowdown in healthcare. So it was a mixture of things.

Speaker #3: And I think we weren't that surprised by that. Emma, do you have something you want to add there?

Emma Giamartino: Yeah. I just want to add and reinforce that on a net revenue basis, our project management business grew 11%, and our SOP, if you take out that one project that we wrote down, was 15% growth. So it is doing what we expect it to do, and we expect that to continue through the year. So all of that growth in infrastructure, which is a very large part of our project management business, is more than offsetting the slowdown in real estate.

Speaker #4: Yeah. I just want to add and reinforce that on a net revenue basis, our project management business grew 11%, and our SOP, if you take out that one project, that we wrote down, was 15% growth.

Speaker #4: So it is doing what we expected it to do, and we expect that to continue through the year. So all of that growth in infrastructure, which is a very large part of our project management business, is more than offsetting the slowdown in real estate.

Stephen Sheldon: Very helpful. Thank you.

Speaker #5: Very helpful. Thank you.

Operator 3: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Steve Sakwa with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Steve Sakwa with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Steve Sakwa with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question.

Steve Sakwa: Yeah, thanks. Good morning. I was wondering if you could just comment a little bit more about the office leasing being down 2%. I do not know. Emma, you made some comments around region. That seems to be a little bit counter to maybe what we are seeing out of the REIT portfolios, just from an activity level. So any color on the U.S. office leasing would be great.

Speaker #6: Yeah. Thanks. Good morning. I was wondering if you could just comment a little bit more about the office leasing being down 2%. I don't know.

Speaker #6: Maybe, Emma, you made some comments around region. That seems to be a little bit counter to what we're seeing out of the REIT portfolios, just from an activity level.

Speaker #6: So any color on US office leasing would be great.

Bob Sulentic: Yeah, I think, Steve, it is a little counter to broadly what we see going on in leasing. It had a couple situations for us in Q3. We had some big deals that are going to slip into Q4, which is why we have confidence, in part why we have confidence that we will see double digit growth in leasing in Q4. We also had a pretty tough compare last year. I will say that we are prominent in the bigger markets around the U.S., and I think everybody knows, if you go back to the comments you made on the REITs, if you look at the REITs and their best assets in the biggest markets, we are running out of space to lease, and that is having an impact on the business as well. It is good for the value of those assets, but that is having an impact as well.

Speaker #3: Yeah. I think, Steve, it is a little counter to broadly what we see going on in leasing. It had a couple situations for us in Q3.

Speaker #3: We had some big deals that are going to slip into Q4, which is why we have confidence—in part, why we have confidence—that we'll see double-digit growth in leasing in Q4.

Speaker #3: We also had a pretty tough compare last year. I will say that we're prominent in the bigger markets. Around the US, and I think everybody knows if you go back to the comments you made on the REITs, if you look at the REITs, and their best assets and the biggest markets, we're running out of space to lease.

Speaker #3: And that's having an impact on the business as well. It's good for the value of those assets, but that's having an impact as well.

Bob Sulentic: It is good for the value of those assets, but that is having an impact as well. We think that, as I said, we are going to see double digit growth in leasing in Q4, and then we think we are going to settle out in the mid to high single digits next year in leasing.

Bob Sulentic: We think that, as I said, we are going to see double digit growth in leasing in Q4, and then we think we are going to settle out in the mid to high single digits next year in leasing.

Speaker #3: We think that, as I said, we're going to see double-digit growth in leasing in Q4, and then we think we're going to settle out in the mid to high single digits next year in leasing.

Steve Sakwa: Great. Thanks for that color. And maybe just to follow up on the Onnec acquisition, could you maybe just talk about pricing? I think if we did the math right, it was about 9x EBITDA. How are you thinking about pricing, and how did you think about maybe changing pricing given just the overall capital markets environment and how did you size that up?

Speaker #6: Great. Thanks for that color. And maybe just to follow up on the ONIX acquisition, could you maybe just talk about kind of pricing? I think if we did the math right, it was about nine times EBITDA.

Speaker #6: How are you thinking about pricing and how did you think about maybe changing pricing given just the overall capital markets environment and how did you size that up?

Bob Sulentic: Well, I am going to make some comments on it, and then I am going to let Emma comment. Emma was more involved in the pricing. First of all, what Onnec does, they do outside the US in some really important markets. In Malaysia, in the Nordics, in Australia, and that rounds out our business, and that is a very valuable business, both to us and to other people that would want to acquire that business. Because of the position that we have put ourselves in on M&A in general, but specifically on M&A for these smaller data center-type businesses, we are able to bring these companies on board, create an environment for them where they could be more successful with us than they could outside of us. We make an upfront payment that is reasonable, but then we give them the chance to have a substantial earn-out downstream.

Speaker #3: Yeah. Well, I'm going to make some comments on it, and then I'm going to let Emma comment. Emma was more involved in the pricing.

Speaker #3: So first of all, what ONIC does they do outside the US in some really important markets. In Malaysia, in the Nordics, in Australia, in that rounds out our business, and that is a very valuable business both to us and to other people that would want to acquire that business.

Speaker #3: Because of the position that we've put ourselves in on M&A in general, but specifically on M&A for these smaller data center-type businesses, we're able to bring these companies on board create an environment for them where they could be more successful with us than they could outside of us.

Speaker #3: And so we make an upfront payment that's reasonable, but then we give them the chance to have a substantial earn-out downstream. I think if they fully achieve their earn-out, the multiple will actually go up a little, but the outcome for us will be spectacular.

Bob Sulentic: I think if they fully achieve their earn-out, the multiple will actually go up a little, but the outcome for us will be spectacular. Emma, you may want to comment on that.

Speaker #3: And Emma, you may want to comment on that.

Emma Giamartino: If they earn the entirety of the earn-out, that would be a little over $1 billion. As Bob said, we use that to incentivize to continue to generate really strong growth. These are businesses that have experienced rapid growth over the past two years, just as we have seen in our direct line business. It is difficult to put a multiple on an upfront earnings number. If they earn this earn-out, and we are very confident that they will, we are going to have extraordinary growth in this business.

Speaker #4: Yeah. If they earn the entirety of the earn-out, that would be a little over a billion dollars. And as Bob said, we use that to incentivize to continue to generate really strong growth.

Speaker #4: These are businesses that have experienced rapid growth over the past two years. Just as we've seen in our direct line business. So it's difficult to put a multiple on an upfront earnings number.

Speaker #4: And so if they earn this earn-out, and we're very confident that they will, we're going to have extraordinary growth in this business.

Steve Sakwa: Thank you.

Speaker #6: Thank you.

Operator 3: Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Brendan Lynch with Barclays. You may proceed with your question.

Operator: Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Brendan Lynch with Barclays. You may proceed with your question.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Linden Lynch with Barclays. You may proceed with your question.

[Analyst] (Barclays): Thank you. This is Annabel on for Brendan. Maybe just to follow up on Onnec, are there any capabilities or geographies for critical infrastructure that are still missing? And how much more M&A do you think is needed to fully build out this business?

Annabelle Bryde: Thank you. This is Annabel on for Brendan. Maybe just to follow up on Onnec, are there any capabilities or geographies for critical infrastructure that are still missing? And how much more M&A do you think is needed to fully build out this business?

Speaker #2: Thank you. This is Annabelle on for Brendan. Maybe just to follow up on ONIC. Are there any capabilities or geographies for critical infrastructure that are kind of still missing?

Speaker #2: And how much more M&A do you think is needed to fully build out this business?

Bob Sulentic: Annabel, we have a good global footprint now. This is something we were really after. We managed a lot of data centers overseas, but we did not have the project capability built out the way we wanted to have it there, the white space technical services work. This does build that footprint out, but there is a lot of room to go in terms of the magnitude of our business around the world. This is a super fragmented business. We have now become very large relative to most players in this segment, but still very small relative to the size of the opportunity. And we do believe there will be considerable M&A targets, both here in the US and around the world, that we can go after to continue to build this business. And we are an attractive home for those companies.

Speaker #3: So Annabelle, we have a good global footprint now. This is something we were really after. We managed a lot of data centers. Overseas, but we didn't have the project capability built out the way we wanted to have it there.

Speaker #3: The white space technical services work. This does build that footprint out. But there is a lot of room to go in terms of the magnitude of our business around the world.

Speaker #3: This is a super fragmented business. We've now become very large relative to most players in this segment, but still very small relative to the size of the opportunity.

Speaker #3: And we do believe, there'll be considerable M&A targets both here in the US and around the world that we can go after to continue to build this business.

Speaker #3: And we are an attractive home for those companies. We're getting inbound requests to talk to us about people selling their businesses to us. So we think that kind of the perimeters of the footprint geographically are well built out, but there's a lot of infill to be done.

Bob Sulentic: We are getting inbound requests to talk to us about people selling their businesses to us. We think that the perimeters of the footprint geographically are well built out, but there is a lot of infill to be done.

[Analyst] (Barclays): Great. Thank you.

Annabelle Bryde: Great. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Great. Thank you.

Operator 3: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jade Rahmani with KBW. You may proceed with your question.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jade Rahmani with KBW. You may proceed with your question.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jade Rahmani with KBW. You may proceed with your question.

Jade Rahmani: Thank you very much. Are you seeing any spillover effects from higher interest rates into other areas of the business beyond capital markets? For example, in office leasing, is there any reduction in confidence in other areas such as BOE, enterprise facilities management? Any slowdown, any pause? In project management corporates, any pause on CapEx?

Speaker #5: Thank you very much. Are you seeing any spillover effects from higher interest rates into other areas of the business beyond capital markets? For example, in office leasing, is there any reduction in confidence in other areas such as BOE, enterprise facilities management—any slowdown, any pause? And in project management, corporates, any pause on CapEx?

Bob Sulentic: Yeah, I think in reality, Jade, it is all impacted by that, right? When companies are nervous about the economic outlook, they are a little more cautious. So it is hard to quantify, but there probably has been some pressure in leasing from that economic uncertainty. For sure, one thing we are anticipating is that there could be some impact on the data center build around the world because of the cost of debt. If you look at our business, one of the things we really loved about Onnec is that if things slow down here for data centers in the US, either because of the interest rate environment or because of the political environment, et cetera, we think the growth is going to accelerate outside the US, and Onnec puts us in a great position to take care of that.

Speaker #3: Yeah. I think in reality, Jade, it's all impacted by that, right? When companies are nervous about the economic outlook, they're a little more cautious.

Speaker #3: So it's hard to quantify. But they're probably has been some pressure in leasing from that economic uncertainty. For sure, one thing we're anticipating is that there could be some impact on the data center build around the world because of the cost of debt.

Speaker #3: If you look at our business, one of the things we really loved about ONIC is that if things slow down here, for data centers in the US, either because of the interest rate environment or because of the political environment, etc., we think the growth is going to accelerate outside the US.

Speaker #3: And ONIC puts us in a great position to take care of that. We think that in data centers, you're going to see potentially some pressure on the amount of new build, which is crazy right now as everybody knows.

Bob Sulentic: We think that in data centers, you are going to see potentially some pressure on the amount of new build, which is crazy right now, as everybody knows. There would be a lot of pressure on that and still have it be enormous. Then what is happening, and we are already seeing it, is a lot of refit of existing data centers, which a big chunk of our business is in that area now. So you are going to see, when you have higher interest rates, economic uncertainty, you are going to see impacts all across the business.

Speaker #3: There could be a lot of pressure on that and still have it be enormous. And then what's happening, and we're already seeing it, is a lot of refit of existing data centers, which a big chunk of our business is in that area now.

Speaker #3: So you're going to see when you have higher interest rates, economic uncertainty, you're going to see impacts all across the business.

Jade Rahmani: Thank you for that. Your comments on data center potential slowdown actually addressed a second question I had. Just wanted to ask about the data center land site sales. Just in quantum, could you give any context as to how much is remaining? In terms of activities, are you replenishing those? Is the plan to have that be a recurring business, or is there sort of a set pipeline and once it is monetized, that will be it?

Speaker #5: Thank you for that. And your comments on data center potential slowdown actually addressed second question I had. Just wanted to ask about the data center land site sales.

Speaker #5: Just in quantum, could you give any context as to how much is remaining and in terms of activities, are you replenishing those? Is the plan to have that be a recurring business, or is there sort of a set pipeline and once it's monetized, that will be it?

Bob Sulentic: It is a recurring business, Jade, but it is not a ratable business, right? We cannot sit here and say so much is going to happen every quarter. We could have 6 or 9 months where nothing happened, and then in one quarter we could have a lot happen. It is driven by the underlying demand, mostly of hyperscalers, our business is. We have got more than 20 sites that we have under control that could end up being sold as data center sites. We have considerable skill at identifying and entitling and getting power to new sites, so we are in the market looking for new sites. We think that that will be an ongoing part of our business. But if you were to ask us to lay out exactly what is going to harvest quarter by quarter, or even year by year, we would not be able to do that.

Speaker #3: It's a recurring business, Jade, but it is not a ratable business, right? We can't sit here and say so much is going to happen every quarter.

Speaker #3: We could have six or nine months where nothing happened and then in one quarter, we could have a lot happen. It's driven by the underlying demand, mostly of hyperscalers, our business is.

Speaker #3: We've got more than 20 sites that we have under control that could end up being sold as data center sites. We're active. We have considerable skill at identifying and entitling and getting power to new sites.

Speaker #3: So, we are in the market looking for new sites, and we think that will be an ongoing part of our business. But if you were to ask us to lay out exactly what's going to harvest quarter by quarter, or even year by year, we wouldn't be able to do that.

Bob Sulentic: But if you were to ask us to lay out exactly what is going to harvest quarter by quarter, or even year by year, we would not be able to do that. That is why when we talk about the profits and the revenues in our infrastructure-related businesses, we separate out data centers and comment that that is in addition to the revenues that we are highlighting for you. When we talk about the profits embedded in our development business, we give you a number for that and then separate out data centers and suggest they would be in addition to that. I cannot remember over the years anything that we were involved in that had real promise that was also simultaneously more choppy than data center land sales are.

Bob Sulentic: That is why when we talk about the profits and the revenues in our infrastructure-related businesses, we separate out data centers and comment that that is in addition to the revenues that we are highlighting for you. When we talk about the profits embedded in our development business, we give you a number for that and then separate out data centers and suggest they would be in addition to that. I cannot remember over the years anything that we were involved in that had real promise that was also simultaneously more choppy than data center land sales are.

Speaker #3: And that's why when we talk about the profits and the revenues in our infrastructure-related businesses, we separate out data centers and comment that that's in addition to the revenues that we're highlighting for you.

Speaker #3: When we talk about the profits embedded in our development business, we give you a number for that and then separate out data centers. And suggested be in addition to that.

Speaker #3: I can't remember over the years anything that we were involved in that had real promise that was also simultaneously more choppy than data center land sales are.

Jade Rahmani: Thanks for taking the questions.

Speaker #5: Thanks for taking the questions.

Operator 3: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Seth Bergey with Citi. Please proceed with your question.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Seth Bergey with Citi. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Seth Burgie with City. Please proceed with your question.

Seth Bergey: Morning, thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to kind of go back to the 2027 outlook and just understand how much of that kind of 15%, the path to 15%, does that include any benefit from Onnec that may not have been kind of in the outlook as of the Q2 call?

Speaker #4: Marine, thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to kind of go back to the 2027 outlook. And just understand how much of that kind of 15% the path of 15%, does that include any benefit from ONIC that may not have been kind of in the outlook as of the second quarter call?

Emma Giamartino: Yes. It includes the benefit

Seth Bergey: And any future M&A?

Speaker #4: And any future M&A?

Emma Giamartino: It includes the benefit from Onnec, it likely includes additional M&A on top of that.

Speaker #6: It includes the benefit from ONIC and it likely includes additional M&A on top of that.

Seth Bergey: I guess just kind of on the additional M&A comment, how do you think about pricing? Should we kind of expect that to be? What kind of size of the companies are you looking to acquire? Is there a size range or just kind of general comments you can make about what you are looking to underwrite?

Speaker #4: And then I guess just kind of on the additional M&A comment, is that kind of how do you think about pricing and should we kind of expect that to be what kind of size of the companies are you looking to acquire?

Speaker #4: Is there a size range or just kind of general comments you can make about what you're looking under, right?

Emma Giamartino: I think Onnec is a really good example of the types of deals that we are looking at in terms of size, multiple return. We look at all of our deals and are targeting a strong return, at least 15%. As you have seen with all of our recent deals, they are all highly accretive and immediately accretive. So we are focusing on delivering a strong return. We are creating value over the long term. So I think looking at something like Onnec is a good example.

Speaker #6: I think ONIC is a really good example of the types of deals that we're looking at in terms of size and multiple return. We look at all of our deals and are targeting a strong return, at least 15%.

Speaker #6: And if you've seen with all of our recent deals, they're all highly accretive and immediately accretive. So we're focusing on delivering a strong return, creating value over the long term.

Speaker #6: So I think looking at something like ONIC is a good example.

Seth Bergey: Great. Thank you.

Speaker #4: Great. Thank you.

Operator 3: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ronald Kamdem with Morgan Stanley. You may proceed with your question.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ronald Kamdem with Morgan Stanley. You may proceed with your question.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ronald Camden with Morgan Standing. You may proceed with your questions.

Ronald Kamdem: Hey, great. Two quick ones. Just going back to BOE and the enterprise facilities management, can you just talk about what sort of catalyzed the change that you mentioned with some of the tenants there? Was it rates? Was it something else? How does that dynamic compare to what is happening with the sort of locals business? Is there any sort of correlations there? Thanks.

Speaker #7: Hey, great. Two quick ones. Just going back to BOE and the enterprise facilities management, can you just talk about what sort of catalyzed the change that you mentioned with some of the tenants there?

Speaker #7: Was it rates? Was it something else? And how does that dynamic compare to what's happening with the sort of locals business? Is there any sort of correlations there?

Speaker #7: Thanks.

Bob Sulentic: Yeah, Ronald, this was two specific deals, that the contracts and what we have to deliver under those contracts just does not work the way it is structured now, so we are having to restructure them. That work is underway. It is not indicative of the business more broadly. We are going to learn from it and change some things going forward. The thing to know about those contracts relative to the local business, those are very big, very complex contracts. They typically involve assets that are geographically spread, maybe around the world, certainly over large geographies within parts of the world. Many, many assets. Sometimes multiple services, sometimes not. Local is very different. It can be a single asset. If, when it is a single asset, it can be quite big and quite complex, or a group of assets within a specific geography. That business is very engineering-led, very small project-led.

Speaker #3: Yeah, Ronald, these were too specific deals. The contracts, and what we have to deliver under those contracts, just don't work the way they're structured now.

Speaker #3: So we're having to restructure them. That work is underway. It's not indicative of the business more broadly. We are going to learn from it and change some things going forward.

Speaker #3: But those the thing to know about those contracts relative to the local business, those are very big, very complex contracts. They typically involve assets that are geographically spread maybe around the world, certainly over large geographies within parts of the world.

Speaker #3: Many, many assets sometimes multiple services, sometimes not. Local is very different. It can be a single asset when it's a single asset, it can be quite big and quite complex.

Speaker #3: Or a group of assets within a specific geography. That business is very engineering-led, very small project-led. We upsell small projects. So it's a very sales-led.

Bob Sulentic: That business is very engineering-led, very small project-led. We upsell small projects, so it is very sales led. It is not an RFP-driven sale process. It is a proactive-driven sale process where we engage in the marketplace. So the characteristics around the way contracts are landed, the complexity of contracts, the work we do subject to those contracts is very different in those two businesses.

Bob Sulentic: We upsell small projects, so it is very sales led. It is not an RFP-driven sale process. It is a proactive-driven sale process where we engage in the marketplace. So the characteristics around the way contracts are landed, the complexity of contracts, the work we do subject to those contracts is very different in those two businesses.

Speaker #3: It's not an RFP-driven sale process. It's a proactive-driven sale process where we engage in the marketplace. So the characteristics around the way contracts are landed, the complexity of contracts, the work we do subject to those contracts is very different in those two businesses.

Ronald Kamdem: Great. That is helpful. Then, just a second on just the capital allocation. I think you talked about sort of potential more M&A. How should we think about where you are comfortable running leverage? Does that probably sideline the buybacks from here? Thanks.

Speaker #7: Great. That's helpful. And then just a second on just the capital allocation I think you talked about sort of potential more M&A. How should we think about where you're comfortable running leverage and does that probably sideline the buybacks from here?

Speaker #7: Thanks.

Emma Giamartino: Yeah. We are always continuing to prioritize M&A. You saw that with Onnec, and you saw in Q3 that we did slow down our buyback somewhat in anticipation of this deal. You should expect that to continue through Q4. We have a really strong pipeline of deals. I know I always say it is difficult to predict what will convert, but we have a great pipeline. We do expect some of that to convert in 2027, so you should expect to see repurchases, as long as our earnings the same, repurchases decline pretty meaningfully.

Speaker #6: Yeah. So we're always continuing to prioritize M&A. You saw that with ONIC. And you saw in Q3 that we did slow down our buyback somewhat in anticipation of this deal.

Speaker #6: And you should expect that to continue through the fourth quarter. We have a really strong pipeline of deals. I know I always say it's difficult to predict what will convert, but we have a great pipeline and we do expect some of that to convert in 2027.

Speaker #6: So you should expect to see repurchases as long as that remains the same, repurchases decline pretty meaningfully.

Ronald Kamdem: Great. That is it for me. Thank you.

Speaker #7: Great. That's it for me. Thank you.

Operator 3: Thank you. We have reached the end of the question and answer session. I would like to turn the floor back to CEO, Bob Sulentic, for closing remarks.

Operator: Thank you. We have reached the end of the question and answer session. I would like to turn the floor back to CEO, Bob Sulentic, for closing remarks.

Speaker #1: Thank you. We have now reached the end of the question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the floor back to CEO Robert Sulentic for his closing remarks.

Bob Sulentic: Thanks everyone for being with us, and we look forward to speaking with you again when we report our full year results.

Speaker #3: Thanks, everyone, for being with us. And we look forward to speaking with you again when we report our full year results.

Operator 3: Thank you. This concludes today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. We thank you for your participation.

Operator: Thank you. This concludes today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. We thank you for your participation.

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