Q3 2026 Magna International Inc Earnings Call
Operator: Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us, and welcome to Magna International Third Quarter Fiscal Year 2026 Financial Results Conference Call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star one again. I will now hand the conference over to Louis Tonelli, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Operator: Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us, and welcome to Magna International Q3 Fiscal Year 2026 Financial Results Conference Call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star one again. I will now hand the conference over to Louis Tonelli, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: If you would like to ask a question, please press *1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press *1 again. I will now hand the conference over to Louis Tinelli, Vice President of Investor Relations.
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Louis Tonelli: Thanks, operator. Hello, everyone, and welcome to our conference call covering our Q3 2026 results. Joining me today are Swamy Kotagiri and Phil Fracassa. Yesterday, our board of directors met and approved our financial results for the third quarter of 2026 and our updated outlook. We issued a press release this morning outlining both of these. You will find today's press release, conference call webcast, the slide presentation that go along with the call, and our updated quarterly financial review all in the investor relations section of our website at magna.com. Before we get started, just as a reminder, the discussion today may contain forward-looking information or forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable securities legislation. Such statements involve certain risks, assumptions, and uncertainties which may cause the company's actual or future results and performance to be materially different from those expressed or implied in these statements.
Louis Tonelli: Thanks, operator. Hello, everyone, and welcome to our conference call covering our Q3 2026 results. Joining me today are Swamy Kotagiri and Phil Fracassa. Yesterday, our board of directors met and approved our financial results for the Q3 of 2026 and our updated outlook. We issued a press release this morning outlining both of these. You will find today's press release, conference call webcast, the slide presentation that go along with the call, and our updated quarterly financial review all in the investor relations section of our website at magna.com. Before we get started, just as a reminder, the discussion today may contain forward-looking information or forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable securities legislation. Such statements involve certain risks, assumptions, and uncertainties which may cause the company's actual or future results and performance to be materially different from those expressed or implied in these statements.
Speaker #2: Thanks, operator. Hello, everyone, and welcome to our conference call covering our Q3 2026 results. Joining me today are Swami Koudagiri and Phil Ferkasa. Yesterday, our Board of Directors met and approved our financial results for the third quarter of 2026 and our updated outlook.
Speaker #2: We issued a press release this morning outlining both of these. You'll find today's press release conference call webcast, the slide presentation to go along with the call, and our updated quarterly financial review all in the Investor Relations section of our website at magna.com.
Speaker #2: Before we get started, just as a reminder, the discussion today may contain forward-looking information or forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable securities legislation.
Speaker #2: Such statements involve certain risks, assumptions, and uncertainties which may cause the company's actual or future results and performance to be materially different from those expressed or implied in these statements.
Louis Tonelli: Please refer to today's press release for a complete description of our safe harbor disclaimer. Please also refer to the reminder slides included in our presentation that relates to our commentary today. With that, I will pass it over to Swamy.
Louis Tonelli: Please refer to today's press release for a complete description of our safe harbor disclaimer. Please also refer to the reminder slides included in our presentation that relates to our commentary today. With that, I will pass it over to Swamy.
Speaker #2: Please refer to today's press release for a complete description of our safe harbor disclaimer. Please also refer to the reminders slides, included in our presentation, that relates to our commentary today.
Speaker #2: With that, I'll pass it over to Swami.
Swamy Kotagiri: Thank you, Louis. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. We appreciate your time and interest. Let's get started. I am pleased with our performance this quarter. We delivered another strong quarter with continued margin expansion, reflecting disciplined execution and progress across a number of areas. In the quarter, sales were down 4%, reflecting lower light vehicle production and our previously announced dispositions. However, weighted organic growth over market was positive. Adjusted EBIT was up 11%, while adjusted EBIT margin expanded 90 basis points to 6.8%. Adjusted EPS rose 38% to $1.83. These results reflect continued progress in our operational excellence initiatives and success in resolving commercial items, including some pull-forward from Q4. Most notably, we continue to see improvement in the underlying operating performance of the business.
Swamy Kotagiri: Thank you, Louis. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. We appreciate your time and interest. Let's get started. I am pleased with our performance this quarter. We delivered another strong quarter with continued margin expansion, reflecting disciplined execution and progress across a number of areas. In the quarter, sales were down 4%, reflecting lower light vehicle production and our previously announced dispositions. However, weighted organic growth over market was positive. Adjusted EBIT was up 11%, while adjusted EBIT margin expanded 90 basis points to 6.8%. Adjusted EPS rose 38% to $1.83. These results reflect continued progress in our operational excellence initiatives and success in resolving commercial items, including some pull-forward from Q4. Most notably, we continue to see improvement in the underlying operating performance of the business.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Louis. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. We appreciate your time and interest. Let's get started. I am pleased with the performance this quarter.
Speaker #3: We delivered another strong quarter with continued margin expansion reflecting discipline execution and progress across a number of areas. In the quarter, sales were down 4%, reflecting lower light vehicle production and our previously announced dispositions.
Speaker #3: However, weighted organic growth over market was positive. Adjusted EBIT was up 11%, while adjusted EBIT margin expanded 90 basis points to 6.8%. And adjusted EPS rose 38% to $1.83.
Speaker #3: These results reflect continued progress in our operational excellence initiatives and success in resolving commercial items including some pull-forward from Q4. Most notably, we continue to see improvement in the underlying operating performance of the business.
Swamy Kotagiri: Our strong free cash flow is further evidence of the continued improvement in our operating performance and the cash-generating capability of the business. During the quarter, we generated $950 million in operating cash flow and $584 million in free cash flow. We ended the quarter with leverage well within our targeted range and $1.4 billion in cash on hand, which provides continued financial flexibility. Supported by our strong year-to-date performance, we updated our full-year 2026 outlook. We lowered our sales expectations to reflect reduced vehicle production in China and unfavorable program mix, and narrowed our range for adjusted EBIT margin. However, we maintained the midpoint of our outlook range for adjusted EPS. In addition, we raised our outlook range for free cash flow, again reflecting our year-to-date momentum and confidence in our cash flow trajectory.
Swamy Kotagiri: Our strong free cash flow is further evidence of the continued improvement in our operating performance and the cash-generating capability of the business. During the quarter, we generated $950 million in operating cash flow and $584 million in free cash flow. We ended the quarter with leverage well within our targeted range and $1.4 billion in cash on hand, which provides continued financial flexibility. Supported by our strong year-to-date performance, we updated our full-year 2026 outlook. We lowered our sales expectations to reflect reduced vehicle production in China and unfavorable program mix, and narrowed our range for adjusted EBIT margin. However, we maintained the midpoint of our outlook range for adjusted EPS. In addition, we raised our outlook range for free cash flow, again reflecting our year-to-date momentum and confidence in our cash flow trajectory.
Speaker #3: Our strong free cash flow is further evidenced of the continued improvement in our operating performance and the cash-generating capability of the business. During the quarter, we generated $950 million in operating cash flow and $584 million in free cash flow.
Speaker #3: And we ended the quarter with leverage well within our targeted range and 1.4 billion in cash on hand, which provides continued financial flexibility. Supported by our strong year-to-date performance, we updated our full-year 2026 outlook.
Speaker #3: We lowered our sales expectations to reflect reduced vehicle production in China and unfavorable program mix and narrowed our range for adjusted EBIT margin. However, we maintained the midpoint of our outlook range for adjusted EPS.
Speaker #3: In addition, we raised our outlook range for free cash flow. Again, reflecting our year-to-date momentum and confidence in our cash flow trajectory. Together, these updates demonstrate our ability to absorb lower production and still deliver improved profitability and cash generation.
Swamy Kotagiri: Together, these updates demonstrate our ability to absorb lower production and still deliver improved profitability and cash generation. We remain steadfast in executing our proven capital allocation framework. We continue to invest in our business to support further profitable organic growth while returning significant capital to shareholders. During the quarter, we returned $658 million to shareholders, including $529 million through share repurchases. We completed our existing buyback authorization in October, repurchasing the remaining 1.3 million shares, and our board approved a new NCIB for 25.8 million shares. Lastly, we closed on the sales of our rooftop and North American lighting businesses in Q3 and expect to complete the remaining divestitures in the fourth quarter. I would like to take a moment to highlight our Complete Vehicles segment, which is ramping up business globally and demonstrating the value of our flexible vehicle manufacturing model.
Swamy Kotagiri: Together, these updates demonstrate our ability to absorb lower production and still deliver improved profitability and cash generation. We remain steadfast in executing our proven capital allocation framework. We continue to invest in our business to support further profitable organic growth while returning significant capital to shareholders. During the quarter, we returned $658 million to shareholders, including $529 million through share repurchases. We completed our existing buyback authorization in October, repurchasing the remaining 1.3 million shares, and our board approved a new NCIB for 25.8 million shares. Lastly, we closed on the sales of our rooftop and North American lighting businesses in Q3 and expect to complete the remaining divestitures in the Q4. I would like to take a moment to highlight our Complete Vehicles segment, which is ramping up business globally and demonstrating the value of our flexible vehicle manufacturing model.
Speaker #3: We remain steadfast in executing our proven capital allocation framework. We continue to invest in our business to support further profitable organic growth while returning significant capital to shareholders.
Speaker #3: During the quarter, we returned $658 million to shareholders including $529 million through share repurchases. We completed our existing buyback authorization in October repurchasing the remaining $1.3 million shares and our board-approved a new NCIB for $25.8 million shares.
Speaker #3: And lastly, we closed on the sales of our rooftop and North American lighting businesses in Q3. And expect to complete the remaining divestitures in the fourth quarter.
Speaker #3: I would like to take a moment to highlight our complete vehicle segment, which is ramping up business globally and demonstrating the value of our flexible vehicle manufacturing model.
Swamy Kotagiri: In Mesa, Arizona, we are launching and ramping up two new vehicle programs for Waymo in our existing upfitting facility. In Graz, Austria, we assembled six vehicles in total for Xpeng and GAC. We are launching the G9L, our fourth model in Graz, supporting Xpeng's European localization strategy. We also produced two GAC models, including the Aion UT, launched earlier this year. In China, our joint venture is ramping up production of all-new Alpha T7, the fifth Arcfox model produced by the joint venture. These programs demonstrate our ability to support new and established customers across regions through flexible, state-of-the-art manufacturing. They are also generating discussions with additional customers and creating opportunities to bring more Magna systems content to new vehicle programs. We also continue to win new business across our core product areas.
Swamy Kotagiri: In Mesa, Arizona, we are launching and ramping up two new vehicle programs for Waymo in our existing upfitting facility. In Graz, Austria, we assembled six vehicles in total for Xpeng and GAC. We are launching the G9L, our fourth model in Graz, supporting Xpeng's European localization strategy. We also produced two GAC models, including the Aion UT, launched earlier this year. In China, our joint venture is ramping up production of all-new Alpha T7, the fifth Arcfox model produced by the joint venture. These programs demonstrate our ability to support new and established customers across regions through flexible, state-of-the-art manufacturing. They are also generating discussions with additional customers and creating opportunities to bring more Magna systems content to new vehicle programs. We also continue to win new business across our core product areas.
Speaker #3: In Mesa, Arizona, we are launching and ramping up two new vehicle programs for Waymo in our existing upfitting facility. In Gratz, Austria, we assemble six vehicles in total for Chopin and GAC.
Speaker #3: We are launching the G9L, our fourth model in Gratz, supporting Chopin's European localization strategy. We also produce two GAC models including the Aion UT, launched earlier this year.
Speaker #3: And in China, our joint venture is ramping up production of all new Alpha T7, the fifth ArcFox model produced by the joint venture. These programs demonstrate our ability to support new and established customers across regions through flexible state-of-the-art manufacturing.
Speaker #3: They are also generating discussions with additional customers and creating opportunities to bring more Magna Systems content to new vehicle programs. We also continue to win new business across our core product areas.
Swamy Kotagiri: We were awarded a transfer case, rear drive module, and front drive unit for a North American-based global OEM. This new program, which launches in 2028, adds to our leading market position in four-wheel drive. We were also awarded incremental actuator content for a smart glass system we currently supply to a North American-based global OEM. The global program launches in 2027, spans our three key markets, and supports new global regulation requirements. The wins reinforce Magna's strong technology position in leading product areas. Lastly, our commitment to innovation continues to be recognized by the industry. Three of our technologies are finalists for Automotive News PACE Awards, and two are finalists for PACE Pilot Awards. Winners will be announced in November. These finalists span a number of our capabilities, demonstrating a strong position across our portfolio. With that, I'll turn the call over to Phil.
Swamy Kotagiri: We were awarded a transfer case, rear drive module, and front drive unit for a North American-based global OEM. This new program, which launches in 2028, adds to our leading market position in four-wheel drive. We were also awarded incremental actuator content for a smart glass system we currently supply to a North American-based global OEM. The global program launches in 2027, spans our three key markets, and supports new global regulation requirements. The wins reinforce Magna's strong technology position in leading product areas. Lastly, our commitment to innovation continues to be recognized by the industry. Three of our technologies are finalists for Automotive News PACE Awards, and two are finalists for PACE Pilot Awards. Winners will be announced in November. These finalists span a number of our capabilities, demonstrating a strong position across our portfolio. With that, I'll turn the call over to Phil.
Speaker #3: We were awarded a transfer case rear drive module and front drive unit for a North American-based global OEM. This new program, which launches in 2028, adds to our leading market position in four-wheel drive.
Speaker #3: We were also awarded incremental actuator content for a smart glass system we currently supply to a North American-based global OEM. The global program launches in 2027, spans our three key markets, and supports new global regulation requirements.
Speaker #3: The wins reinforce Magna's strong technology position in leading product areas. Lastly, our commitment to innovation continues to be recognized by the industry. Three of our technologies are finalists for Automotive News Pace Awards and two are finalists for Pace Pilot Awards.
Speaker #3: Winners will be announced in November. These finalists span a number of our capabilities demonstrating our strong position across our portfolio. With that, I'll turn the call over to Phil.
Phil Fracassa: Thanks, Swamy, and good morning, everyone. I am going to begin on slide 15 with a summary of our strong Q3 results. Sales were $10.1 billion in the quarter, down approximately 4% from last year. Adjusted EBIT margin improved 90 basis points to 6.8%. Adjusted earnings increased 38% to $1.83 per share, and free cash flow was strong at $584 million. Each of these metrics exceeded our expectations and continued the momentum we saw in the first 6 months of the year. Now, I will take you through some of the details. Let us start with sales on slide 16. As I mentioned, Q3 sales were down about 4% overall compared to last year. Excluding divestitures and foreign currency translation, sales declined 2.1% organically. By comparison, global light vehicle production declined about 3% in the quarter. On a Magna-weighted basis, we estimate light vehicle production was down 2.6%.
Phil Fracassa: Thanks, Swamy, and good morning, everyone. I am going to begin on slide 15 with a summary of our strong Q3 results. Sales were $10.1 billion in the quarter, down approximately 4% from last year. Adjusted EBIT margin improved 90 basis points to 6.8%. Adjusted earnings increased 38% to $1.83 per share, and free cash flow was strong at $584 million. Each of these metrics exceeded our expectations and continued the momentum we saw in the first 6 months of the year. Now, I will take you through some of the details. Let us start with sales on slide 16. As I mentioned, Q3 sales were down about 4% overall compared to last year. Excluding divestitures and foreign currency translation, sales declined 2.1% organically. By comparison, global light vehicle production declined about 3% in the quarter. On a Magna-weighted basis, we estimate light vehicle production was down 2.6%.
Speaker #4: Thanks, Juani. And good morning, everyone. I'm going to begin on slide 15 with a summary of our strong third-quarter results. Sales were 10.1 billion in the quarter, down approximately 4% from last year.
Speaker #4: Adjusted EBIT margin improved 90 basis points to 6.8%. Adjusted earnings increased 38% to $1.83 per share. And free cash flow was strong at $584 million.
Speaker #4: Each of these metrics exceeded our expectations, and continued the momentum we saw in the first six months of the year. Now, I'll take you through some of the details.
Speaker #4: Let's start with sales on slide 16. As I mentioned, third-quarter sales were down about 4% overall compared to last year. Excluding divestitures and foreign currency translation, sales declined 2.1% organically.
Speaker #4: By comparison, global light vehicle production declined about 3% in the quarter. On a Magna-weighted basis, we estimate light vehicle production was down 2.6%. This translates to positive growth over market for Magna, of about 0.5% on a consolidated basis, and 1% excluding complete vehicles.
Phil Fracassa: This translates to positive growth over market for Magna of about 0.5% on a consolidated basis, and 1% excluding Complete Vehicles. Looking at the sales walk, volumes, launches, and other reduced sales by $150 million. The decrease mainly reflects lower light vehicle production, the end of production on certain programs, including the Ford Escape, and normal course customer price concessions. These factors were offset partially by new program launches, including the Jeep Cherokee and the Mercedes-Benz GLB and GLC. Complete Vehicle sales declined $74 million organically, despite higher unit volumes. The higher volumes were driven by new programs, Xpeng and GAC in Graz, where sales are recognized on a value-added basis. Volumes with other customers, where sales are generally recognized on a full-cost basis, declined year over year, including end of production for the BMW Z4 and Toyota Supra.
Phil Fracassa: This translates to positive growth over market for Magna of about 0.5% on a consolidated basis, and 1% excluding Complete Vehicles. Looking at the sales walk, volumes, launches, and other reduced sales by $150 million. The decrease mainly reflects lower light vehicle production, the end of production on certain programs, including the Ford Escape, and normal course customer price concessions. These factors were offset partially by new program launches, including the Jeep Cherokee and the Mercedes-Benz GLB and GLC. Complete Vehicle sales declined $74 million organically, despite higher unit volumes. The higher volumes were driven by new programs, Xpeng and GAC in Graz, where sales are recognized on a value-added basis. Volumes with other customers, where sales are generally recognized on a full-cost basis, declined year over year, including end of production for the BMW Z4 and Toyota Supra.
Speaker #4: Looking at the sales walk, volumes launches and other reduced sales by 150 million. The decrease mainly reflects lower light vehicle production; the end-of-production on certain programs including the Ford Escape and normal-course customer price concessions.
Speaker #4: These factors were offset partially by new program launches. Including the Jeep Cherokee, and the Mercedes-Benz GLV and GLC. Complete vehicle sales declined 74 million organically, despite higher unit volumes.
Speaker #4: The higher volumes were driven by new programs with Chopin and GAC in Gratz, where sales are recognized on a value-added basis. Volumes with other customers where sales are generally recognized on a full-cost basis.
Speaker #4: Declined year over year. Including end-of-production for the BMW Z4 and Toyota Supra. This mix shift resulted in net lower assembly sales dollars, but at higher margins.
Phil Fracassa: This mix shift resulted in net lower assembly sales dollars, but at higher margins. Engineering revenue was also lower, in line with our expectations. The rooftop systems and completed lighting divestitures reduced sales by $165 million in the quarter. Lastly, foreign currency translation reduced sales by $14 million, reflecting a net stronger US dollar. Now, let us move to EBIT on slide 17. Q3 adjusted EBIT was $683 million, an increase of $70 million, or 11% versus last year. Adjusted EBIT margin was 6.8%, an improvement of 90 basis points. Operational volumes and other contributed about 120 basis points to margin in the quarter. The improvement mainly reflects net favorable commercial items and the impact of operational excellence initiatives, net of normal course customer price concessions. We also benefited from prior restructuring actions, as well as the divestitures, which were running at margins below Magna average.
Phil Fracassa: This mix shift resulted in net lower assembly sales dollars, but at higher margins. Engineering revenue was also lower, in line with our expectations. The rooftop systems and completed lighting divestitures reduced sales by $165 million in the quarter. Lastly, foreign currency translation reduced sales by $14 million, reflecting a net stronger US dollar. Now, let us move to EBIT on slide 17. Q3 adjusted EBIT was $683 million, an increase of $70 million, or 11% versus last year. Adjusted EBIT margin was 6.8%, an improvement of 90 basis points. Operational volumes and other contributed about 120 basis points to margin in the quarter. The improvement mainly reflects net favorable commercial items and the impact of operational excellence initiatives, net of normal course customer price concessions. We also benefited from prior restructuring actions, as well as the divestitures, which were running at margins below Magna average.
Speaker #4: Engineering revenue was also lower, in line with our expectations. The rooftop systems and completed lighting divestitures reduced sales by 165 million in the quarter, and lastly, foreign currency translation reduced sales by 14 million.
Speaker #4: Reflecting a net stronger US dollar. Now, let's move to EBIT on slide 17. Third-quarter adjusted EBIT was 683 million. An increase of 70 million or 11% versus last year.
Speaker #4: Adjusted EBIT margin was 6.8%. An improvement of 90 basis points. Operational volumes and other contributed about 120 basis points to margin in the quarter.
Speaker #4: The improvement mainly reflects net favorable commercial items, and the impact of operational excellence initiatives. Net of normal-course customer price concessions. We also benefited from prior restructuring actions, as well as the divestitures, which were running at margins below Magna average.
Phil Fracassa: These factors were offset partially by lower earnings on reduced organic sales volumes, unfavorable net foreign exchange impacts, and higher profit sharing and incentive compensation. In addition, lower net tariff costs contributed approximately 30 basis points to margins. Costs were slightly lower, and we are getting recoveries faster than we did last year. While the tariff situation continues to evolve, we currently expect that our full-year net tariff headwind will be similar to what we experienced last year. Higher commodity costs reduced margins by about 50 basis points. As we have noted in prior quarters, we continue to experience inflation across several key commodities. While this was a headwind in the quarter, we do expect to substantially mitigate or recover these increased costs over time. Lower equity income reduced margins by around 10 basis points.
Phil Fracassa: These factors were offset partially by lower earnings on reduced organic sales volumes, unfavorable net foreign exchange impacts, and higher profit sharing and incentive compensation. In addition, lower net tariff costs contributed approximately 30 basis points to margins. Costs were slightly lower, and we are getting recoveries faster than we did last year. While the tariff situation continues to evolve, we currently expect that our full-year net tariff headwind will be similar to what we experienced last year. Higher commodity costs reduced margins by about 50 basis points. As we have noted in prior quarters, we continue to experience inflation across several key commodities. While this was a headwind in the quarter, we do expect to substantially mitigate or recover these increased costs over time. Lower equity income reduced margins by around 10 basis points.
Speaker #4: These factors were offset partially by lower earnings on reduced organic sales volumes, unfavorable net foreign exchange impacts, and higher profit sharing and incentive compensation.
Speaker #4: In addition, lower net tariff costs contributed approximately 30 basis points to margins. Costs were slightly lower, and were getting recoveries faster than we did last year.
Speaker #4: While the tariff situation continues to evolve, we currently expect that our full year net tariff headwind will be similar to what we experienced last year.
Speaker #4: Higher commodity costs reduced margins by about 50 basis points. As we have noted in prior quarters, we continue to experience inflation across several key commodities.
Speaker #4: While this was a headwind in the quarter, we do expect a substantially mitigate or recover these increased costs over time. And lower equity income reduced margins by around 10 basis points.
Phil Fracassa: This mainly reflects the impact of lower sales, unfavorable product mix, and higher income tax expense as certain affiliates accounted for under the equity method. Looking below the EBIT line on slide 18, interest expense was $30 million lower than last year. The improvement was driven by some discrete interest expense last year that did not recur, as well as reduced seasonal short-term borrowings supported by our strong cash flow. Our Q3 adjusted tax rate was 22.4%, an improvement of 410 basis points versus last year, and better than our expectations. For the full year, we now expect an adjusted tax rate of approximately 22%. Q3 adjusted EPS increased 38% to $1.83, reflecting the higher net income and a 6% reduction in diluted shares outstanding from share repurchases completed over the past 12 months.
Phil Fracassa: This mainly reflects the impact of lower sales, unfavorable product mix, and higher income tax expense as certain affiliates accounted for under the equity method. Looking below the EBIT line on slide 18, interest expense was $30 million lower than last year. The improvement was driven by some discrete interest expense last year that did not recur, as well as reduced seasonal short-term borrowings supported by our strong cash flow. Our Q3 adjusted tax rate was 22.4%, an improvement of 410 basis points versus last year, and better than our expectations. For the full year, we now expect an adjusted tax rate of approximately 22%. Q3 adjusted EPS increased 38% to $1.83, reflecting the higher net income and a 6% reduction in diluted shares outstanding from share repurchases completed over the past 12 months.
Speaker #4: This mainly reflects the impact of lower sales unfavorable product mix and higher income tax expense at certain affiliates accounted for under the equity method.
Speaker #4: Looking below the EBIT line on slide 18, interest expense was 30 million lower than last year. The improvement was driven by some discrete interest expense last year that did not recur.
Speaker #4: As well as reduced seasonal short-term borrowings, supported by our strong cash flow. Our third-quarter adjusted tax rate was 22.4%. An improvement of 410 basis points versus last year, and better than our expectations.
Speaker #4: For the full year, we now expect an adjusted tax rate of approximately 22%. And third-quarter adjusted EPS increased 38% to $1.83, reflecting the higher net income and a 6% reduction in diluted shares outstanding from share repurchases completed over the past 12 months.
Phil Fracassa: Next, let's take a brief look at our business segment performance, which is summarized on slide 19. We were impacted by lower global light vehicle production across the business. In Power & Vision, reported sales also reflect the rooftop and completed lighting divestitures. Excluding divestitures and foreign currency translation, P&V sales increased approximately 2% organically in the quarter. In Seating, sales were negatively impacted by a major changeover at Ford's Louisville plant, as well as retooling at BMW's Spartanburg plant for upcoming planned program launches. In Complete Vehicles, sales declined 8% as expected, despite higher unit volumes, as lower sales on full-cost programs and lower engineering revenue were only partially offset by new value-added programs and higher margins with Chinese OEMs in Graz.
Phil Fracassa: Next, let's take a brief look at our business segment performance, which is summarized on slide 19. We were impacted by lower global light vehicle production across the business. In Power & Vision, reported sales also reflect the rooftop and completed lighting divestitures. Excluding divestitures and foreign currency translation, P&V sales increased approximately 2% organically in the quarter. In Seating, sales were negatively impacted by a major changeover at Ford's Louisville plant, as well as retooling at BMW's Spartanburg plant for upcoming planned program launches. In Complete Vehicles, sales declined 8% as expected, despite higher unit volumes, as lower sales on full-cost programs and lower engineering revenue were only partially offset by new value-added programs and higher margins with Chinese OEMs in Graz.
Speaker #4: Next, let's take a brief look at our business segment performance, which is summarized on slide 19. We were impacted by lower global light vehicle production across the business.
Speaker #4: In power and vision, reported sales also reflect the rooftop and completed lighting divestitures. Excluding divestitures and foreign currency translation, P&B sales increased approximately 2% organically in the quarter.
Speaker #4: In seating, sales were negatively impacted by a major changeover at Ford's Louisville plant. As well as retooling at BMW's Spartanburg plant, for upcoming planned program launches.
Speaker #4: And in complete vehicles, sales declined 8% as expected despite higher unit volumes. As lower sales on full-cost programs and lower engineering revenue, were only partially offset by new value-added programs at higher margins with Chinese OEMs in Gratz.
Phil Fracassa: Turning to EBIT, Body Exteriors & Structures, Power & Vision, and Complete Vehicles all posted notable year-over-year improvements in adjusted EBIT dollars and margins, reflecting strong operational execution. P&V also benefited on the margin line from the divestitures, and Complete Vehicles benefited from favorable mix. In Seating, margins were down as expected, mainly reflecting the decline in sales for the program changeovers I mentioned earlier. Now, let's look at cash flow on slide 20. In Q3, we generated $950 million in cash from operations, an increase of $38 million from last year, driven by higher earnings and improved working capital. Investment activities in the quarter included $307 million in CapEx and $75 million for investments, other assets, and intangibles, offset partially by proceeds from normal course asset disposals.
Phil Fracassa: Turning to EBIT, Body Exteriors & Structures, Power & Vision, and Complete Vehicles all posted notable year-over-year improvements in adjusted EBIT dollars and margins, reflecting strong operational execution. P&V also benefited on the margin line from the divestitures, and Complete Vehicles benefited from favorable mix. In Seating, margins were down as expected, mainly reflecting the decline in sales for the program changeovers I mentioned earlier. Now, let's look at cash flow on slide 20. In Q3, we generated $950 million in cash from operations, an increase of $38 million from last year, driven by higher earnings and improved working capital. Investment activities in the quarter included $307 million in CapEx and $75 million for investments, other assets, and intangibles, offset partially by proceeds from normal course asset disposals.
Speaker #4: During the EBIT, Audi exteriors and structures power and vision and complete vehicles all posted notable year-over-year improvements in adjusted EBIT dollars and margins, reflecting strong operational execution.
Speaker #4: P&B also benefited on the margin line from the divestitures. And complete vehicles benefited from favorable mix and in seating, margins were down as expected mainly reflecting the decline in sales for the program changeovers I mentioned earlier.
Speaker #4: Now, let's look at cash flow on slide 20. In the third quarter, we generated 950 million in cash from operations. An increase of 38 million from last year, driven by higher earnings and improved working capital.
Speaker #4: Investment activities in the quarter included 307 million in capex and 75 million for investments, other assets, and intangibles. Offset partially by proceeds from normal course asset disposals.
Phil Fracassa: Netting everything out, we generated free cash flow of $584 million in the quarter, which was slightly above last year and ahead of our expectations. We continued to return cash to shareholders in Q3, with $129 million in dividends, along with $529 million through share repurchases. During the quarter, we repurchased 7.9 million shares under our current NCIB buyback authorization, which left us with just over one million shares remaining at the end of September. As of today, we will have repurchased all remaining shares. That's a total of over 25 million shares over the past 12 months. As Swamy mentioned, yesterday, our board approved a new NCIB buyback authorization, which is expected to take effect in November. Turning to slide 21, our balance sheet and capital structure remain strong.
Phil Fracassa: Netting everything out, we generated free cash flow of $584 million in the quarter, which was slightly above last year and ahead of our expectations. We continued to return cash to shareholders in Q3, with $129 million in dividends, along with $529 million through share repurchases. During the quarter, we repurchased 7.9 million shares under our current NCIB buyback authorization, which left us with just over one million shares remaining at the end of September. As of today, we will have repurchased all remaining shares. That's a total of over 25 million shares over the past 12 months. As Swamy mentioned, yesterday, our board approved a new NCIB buyback authorization, which is expected to take effect in November. Turning to slide 21, our balance sheet and capital structure remain strong.
Speaker #4: Netting everything out, we generated free cash flow of 584 million in the quarter, which was slightly above last year, and ahead of our expectations.
Speaker #4: We continued to return cash to shareholders in the third quarter, with 129 million in dividends along with 529 million through share repurchases. During the quarter, we repurchased 7.9 million shares under our current NCIB buyback authorization.
Speaker #4: Which left us with just over 1 million shares remaining at the end of September. As of today, we will have repurchased all remaining shares.
Speaker #4: That's a total of over 25 million shares over the past 12 months. And if Swami mentioned, yesterday our board approved a new NCIB buyback authorization.
Speaker #4: Which is expected to take effect in November. Turning to slide 21, our balance sheet and capital structure remains strong. At the end of September, we had close to 5 billion in total liquidity, including 1.4 billion of cash on hand.
Phil Fracassa: At the end of September, we had close to $5 billion in total liquidity, including $1.4 billion of cash on hand. This is despite the significant return of capital during the first 9 months of the year. Looking at leverage, our net debt to adjusted EBITDA was under 1x, and our rating agency leverage was 1.4x at quarter end. These are both within our targeted ranges, which provides significant financial flexibility and puts Magna in a great position to continue investing in the business and returning capital to shareholders. Next, let me cover the macro assumptions underpinning our current outlook on slide 22. Compared to our July outlook, we have reduced our China production estimate by 800,000 units. We also updated our foreign currency assumptions to reflect recent exchange rates. Our full-year outlook now assumes a slightly stronger Canadian dollar, euro, and Chinese yuan relative to the US dollar.
Phil Fracassa: At the end of September, we had close to $5 billion in total liquidity, including $1.4 billion of cash on hand. This is despite the significant return of capital during the first 9 months of the year. Looking at leverage, our net debt to adjusted EBITDA was under 1x, and our rating agency leverage was 1.4x at quarter end. These are both within our targeted ranges, which provides significant financial flexibility and puts Magna in a great position to continue investing in the business and returning capital to shareholders. Next, let me cover the macro assumptions underpinning our current outlook on slide 22. Compared to our July outlook, we have reduced our China production estimate by 800,000 units. We also updated our foreign currency assumptions to reflect recent exchange rates. Our full-year outlook now assumes a slightly stronger Canadian dollar, euro, and Chinese yuan relative to the US dollar.
Speaker #4: This is despite the significant return of capital during the first nine months of the year. Looking at leverage, our net debt to adjusted EBITDA was under one times, and our rating agency leverage was 1.4 times at quarter end.
Speaker #4: These are both within our targeted ranges, which provides significant financial flexibility and puts Magna in a great position to continue investing in the business and returning capital to shareholders.
Speaker #4: Next, let me cover the macro assumptions underpinning our current outlook on slide 22. Compared to our July outlook, we've reduced our China production estimate by 800,000 units.
Speaker #4: We also updated our foreign currency assumptions to reflect recent exchange rates. Our full-year outlook now assumes a slightly stronger Canadian dollar/euro and Chinese yuan relative to the US dollar.
Phil Fracassa: Moving to slide 23, we are revising our full-year sales outlook, primarily to reflect our assumption for lower vehicle production in China and unfavorable program mix compared to our previous outlook. Despite the lower sales outlook, we continue to expect strong year-over-year margin expansion. We are narrowing our outlook for adjusted EBIT margin to a range of between 6.3% and 6.5%. Our midpoint of 6.4% represents an improvement of 80 basis points from last year on slightly lower sales at the midpoint. We are also narrowing our adjusted EPS outlook to a range of between $6.85 and $7.15 per share. The midpoint, which is unchanged at $7 per share, represents an increase of 22% versus last year.
Phil Fracassa: Moving to slide 23, we are revising our full-year sales outlook, primarily to reflect our assumption for lower vehicle production in China and unfavorable program mix compared to our previous outlook. Despite the lower sales outlook, we continue to expect strong year-over-year margin expansion. We are narrowing our outlook for adjusted EBIT margin to a range of between 6.3% and 6.5%. Our midpoint of 6.4% represents an improvement of 80 basis points from last year on slightly lower sales at the midpoint. We are also narrowing our adjusted EPS outlook to a range of between $6.85 and $7.15 per share. The midpoint, which is unchanged at $7 per share, represents an increase of 22% versus last year.
Speaker #4: Moving to slide 23, we are revising our full-year sales outlook, primarily to reflect our assumption for lower vehicle production in China and unfavorable program mix, compared to our previous outlook.
Speaker #4: Despite the lower sales outlook, we continue to expect strong year-over-year margin expansion. We are narrowing our outlook for adjusted EBIT margin to a range of between 6.3 and 6.5%.
Speaker #4: Our midpoint of 6.4% represents an improvement of 80 basis points from last year, on slightly lower sales at the midpoint. We are also narrowing our adjusted EPS outlook to a range of between $6.85 and $7.15 per share.
Speaker #4: The midpoint, which is unchanged at $7 per share, represents an increase of 22% versus last year. And finally, we are raising our free cash flow outlook to between 1.85 and 1.9 billion, an increase of 75 million at the midpoint, mainly reflecting lower planned capital spending.
Phil Fracassa: Finally, we are raising our free cash flow outlook to between $1.85 billion and $1.9 billion, an increase of $75 million at the midpoint, mainly reflecting lower planned capital spending. The updated outlook represents free cash conversion of approximately 100% of adjusted net income. With respect to other key assumptions, we expect CapEx to be approximately $1.5 billion compared to our previous range of $1.5 billion to $1.6 billion. We are planning for slightly lower interest expense, and we expect a lower adjusted tax rate of approximately 22% compared to 23% previously, reflecting a more favorable mix of earnings. Finally, our assumptions for equity income at the midpoint and dilutive shares remain unchanged. That is it for the financial review, and now I will turn it back to Swamy to wrap things up. Swamy?
Phil Fracassa: Finally, we are raising our free cash flow outlook to between $1.85 billion and $1.9 billion, an increase of $75 million at the midpoint, mainly reflecting lower planned capital spending. The updated outlook represents free cash conversion of approximately 100% of adjusted net income. With respect to other key assumptions, we expect CapEx to be approximately $1.5 billion compared to our previous range of $1.5 billion to $1.6 billion. We are planning for slightly lower interest expense, and we expect a lower adjusted tax rate of approximately 22% compared to 23% previously, reflecting a more favorable mix of earnings. Finally, our assumptions for equity income at the midpoint and dilutive shares remain unchanged. That is it for the financial review, and now I will turn it back to Swamy to wrap things up. Swamy?
Speaker #4: The updated outlook represents free cash conversion of approximately 100% of adjusted net income. With respect to other key assumptions, we expect capex to be approximately 1.5 billion, compared to our previous range of 1.5 to 1.6 billion.
Speaker #4: We're planning for slightly lower interest expense and we expect a lower adjusted tax rate of approximately 22%, compared to 23% previously, reflecting a more favorable mix of earnings.
Speaker #4: And finally, our assumptions for equity income at the midpoint and diluted shares remain unchanged. That's it for the financial review. And now, I'll turn it back to Swami to wrap things up.
Speaker #4: Swami?
Swamy Kotagiri: Thank you, Phil. Before we take your questions, let me summarize. We delivered a strong Q3 with meaningful growth in adjusted EBIT margin and adjusted EPS. Just as importantly, we generated strong free cash flow, reinforcing the quality and sustainability of our earnings. These results reflect the continued progress we are making through disciplined execution and operational excellence across the company. Looking ahead, our updated 2026 outlook reflects our confidence in Magna's ongoing operating performance. We remain focused on sustaining our momentum in margin expansion, earnings growth, and free cash flow, while continuing to execute our disciplined capital allocation strategy. We completed our previous share repurchase program, and the board has approved a new authorization. This positions us to continue returning significant capital to shareholders while investing in the business. Overall, we believe Magna is well-positioned to deliver continued margin expansion, EPS growth, and attractive shareholder returns.
Swamy Kotagiri: Thank you, Phil. Before we take your questions, let me summarize. We delivered a strong Q3 with meaningful growth in adjusted EBIT margin and adjusted EPS. Just as importantly, we generated strong free cash flow, reinforcing the quality and sustainability of our earnings. These results reflect the continued progress we are making through disciplined execution and operational excellence across the company. Looking ahead, our updated 2026 outlook reflects our confidence in Magna's ongoing operating performance. We remain focused on sustaining our momentum in margin expansion, earnings growth, and free cash flow, while continuing to execute our disciplined capital allocation strategy. We completed our previous share repurchase program, and the board has approved a new authorization. This positions us to continue returning significant capital to shareholders while investing in the business. Overall, we believe Magna is well-positioned to deliver continued margin expansion, EPS growth, and attractive shareholder returns.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Phil. Before we take your questions, let me summarize. We delivered a strong third quarter with meaningful growth in adjusted EBIT margin and adjusted EPS.
Speaker #2: Just as importantly, we generated strong free cash flow reinforcing the quality and sustainability of our earnings. These results reflect the continued progress we are making through disciplined execution and operational excellence across the company.
Speaker #2: Looking ahead, our updated 2026 outlook reflects our confidence in Magna's ongoing operating performance. We remain focused on sustaining our momentum in margin expansion earnings growth and free cash flow.
Speaker #2: While continuing to execute our disciplined capital allocation strategy. We completed our previous share repurchase program and the board has approved a new authorization. This positions us to continue returning significant capital to shareholders while investing in the business.
Speaker #2: Overall, we believe Magna is well positioned to deliver continued margin expansion EPS growth and attractive shareholder returns. We hope to see many of you in November at our investor event in New York City where we will go into detail on our strategy, key initiatives, and long-term financial outlook.
Swamy Kotagiri: We hope to see many of you in November at our investor event in New York City, where we will go into detail on our strategy, key initiatives, and long-term financial outlook. Thanks for your attention. Operator, let's open it up for questions.
Swamy Kotagiri: We hope to see many of you in November at our investor event in New York City, where we will go into detail on our strategy, key initiatives, and long-term financial outlook. Thanks for your attention. Operator, let's open it up for questions.
Speaker #2: Thanks for your attention, now operator, let's open it up for questions.
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Speaker #1: Your first question comes from the line of James Picariello, from BNP Paribas. Please go ahead.
Louis Tonelli: James, you are on the line. You may need to unmute. Let's move to the next question, operator, please. Thank you.
Phil Fracassa: James, you are on the line. You may need to unmute. Let's move to the next question, operator, please. Thank you.
Speaker #3: James, are you on the line? You may need to unmute. Let's move to the next question, operator. Please, thank you.
Operator: Thank you. James, we will return momentarily. Your next question comes from the line of Dan Levy from Barclays. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. James, we will return momentarily. Your next question comes from the line of Dan Levy from Barclays. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Thank you. James, we will return momentarily. Your next question comes from the line of Dan Levy, from Barclays. Please go ahead.
Dan Levy: Hi. Good morning. Thank you for taking the questions. First, just wondering if you could unpack maybe some of the items within the quarter. You said there was timing of commercial recoveries. Maybe you could just outline a bit more the magnitude of those and maybe just give us a little more sense if those were for commodities, if those are for vehicle programs, and then what's one time versus maybe the right sort of on a run rate basis going forward, the right way to think of it.
Dan Levy: Hi. Good morning. Thank you for taking the questions. First, just wondering if you could unpack maybe some of the items within the quarter. You said there was timing of commercial recoveries. Maybe you could just outline a bit more the magnitude of those and maybe just give us a little more sense if those were for commodities, if those are for vehicle programs, and then what's one time versus maybe the right sort of on a run rate basis going forward, the right way to think of it.
Speaker #4: Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking the questions. First, just wondering if you could unpack maybe some of the items within the quarter. You said there was timing of commercial recoveries.
Speaker #4: Maybe you could just outline a bit more the magnitude of those and maybe just give us a little more sense if those were for commodities, if those are for vehicle programs, and then what's one time versus maybe the right sort of on a run rate basis going forward, the right way to think of it.
Swamy Kotagiri: Yeah. Good morning, Dan. Maybe I'll start off with the high level, and Phil can jump in with some of the details. The commercial and tariff recoveries benefited Q3, and some favorable commercial items moved forward from Q4. I would say that's not the full explanation of the full improvement. We delivered meaningful productivity and efficiency gains, operational excellence benefits, and restructuring benefits, which helped absorb significant commodity pressures. If I had to summarize it, I would say timing helped the quarter, but the underlying operating performance is what held the improvement and will serve as a trajectory going forward.
Swamy Kotagiri: Yeah. Good morning, Dan. Maybe I'll start off with the high level, and Phil can jump in with some of the details. The commercial and tariff recoveries benefited Q3, and some favorable commercial items moved forward from Q4. I would say that's not the full explanation of the full improvement. We delivered meaningful productivity and efficiency gains, operational excellence benefits, and restructuring benefits, which helped absorb significant commodity pressures. If I had to summarize it, I would say timing helped the quarter, but the underlying operating performance is what held the improvement and will serve as a trajectory going forward.
Speaker #2: Yeah, good morning, Dan. Maybe I'll start off with the high level and Phil can jump in with some of the details. The commercial and tariff recoveries benefited Q3 and some favorable commercial items moved forward from Q4.
Speaker #2: But I would say that's not the full explanation or the full improvement. We delivered meaningful productivity and efficiency gains operational excellence benefits, and restructuring benefits, which helped absorb significant commodity pressures.
Speaker #2: So if I had to summarize it, I would say timing helped the quarter, but the underlying operating performance is what held the improvement and will serve as a trajectory going forward.
Phil Fracassa: Yeah. The only thing I would add there, Dan, is you're right too. The operational volume and other bucket, if you will, added 120 basis points overall to margins. The two biggest positives would have been commercial and operational excellence. Swamy talked about the operational excellence. As we've said many times, we're still in the early innings there and expect that momentum to continue. On commercial, I would say it was, in that particular bucket, it was probably a combination of volume-related commercial and some commodity-related commercial, although commodities was a net headwind in the quarter. We actually show that in a different bucket, so it was mainly commercial-related or volume-related commercial. Some pull ahead from Q4. The only thing I would say is, we still expect margins in Q4 despite the pull ahead into Q3.
Phil Fracassa: Yeah. The only thing I would add there, Dan, is you're right too. The operational volume and other bucket, if you will, added 120 basis points overall to margins. The two biggest positives would have been commercial and operational excellence. Swamy talked about the operational excellence. As we've said many times, we're still in the early innings there and expect that momentum to continue. On commercial, I would say it was, in that particular bucket, it was probably a combination of volume-related commercial and some commodity-related commercial, although commodities was a net headwind in the quarter. We actually show that in a different bucket, so it was mainly commercial-related or volume-related commercial. Some pull ahead from Q4. The only thing I would say is, we still expect margins in Q4 despite the pull ahead into Q3.
Speaker #3: Yeah, the only I would add there, Dan, is you're right. The operational volume and other bucket, if you will, added 120 basis points overall the margins.
Speaker #3: The two biggest positives would have been commercial and operational excellence. Swami talked about the operational excellence. As we've said many times, we're still in the early innings there and expect that momentum to continue.
Speaker #3: On commercial, I would say it was in that particular bucket, it was probably a combination of volume-related commercial and some commodity-related commercial, although commodities was a net headwind in the quarter.
Speaker #3: We actually show that in a different bucket. So it was mainly commercial-related or volume-related commercial. Some pull ahead from Q4. The only thing I would say is we still expect margins in Q4 despite the pull ahead into Q3, still expect margins in Q4 to step up from Q3 despite lower volume, despite commodity costs, despite actually commercial probably flipping negative on us in Q4.
Phil Fracassa: Still expect margins in Q4 to step up from Q3, despite lower volume, despite commodity costs, despite actually commercial probably flipping negative on us in Q4. So we do believe the margin performance, when you peel it all back, is sustainable. As we've said before, we think the midpoint of the full-year guide, when you look at 6.4% at the midpoint, we do believe that is a structural jumping-off point as we head into 2027.
Phil Fracassa: Still expect margins in Q4 to step up from Q3, despite lower volume, despite commodity costs, despite actually commercial probably flipping negative on us in Q4. So we do believe the margin performance, when you peel it all back, is sustainable. As we've said before, we think the midpoint of the full-year guide, when you look at 6.4% at the midpoint, we do believe that is a structural jumping-off point as we head into 2027.
Speaker #3: So we do believe the margin performance when you peel it all back is sustainable. And as we've said, before, we think the midpoint of the full-year guide when you look at 6.4% at the midpoint, we do believe that is a structural jumping-off point as we head into 2027.
Dan Levy: Thank you. Just to clarify, within that, the commodity cost that you said was a net headwind, is the view, I assume, over time is that you should get full recoveries to make it EBIT dollar neutral? It is just a matter of the timing. Is that correct?
Dan Levy: Thank you. Just to clarify, within that, the commodity cost that you said was a net headwind, is the view, I assume, over time is that you should get full recoveries to make it EBIT dollar neutral? It is just a matter of the timing. Is that correct?
Speaker #4: Great. Thank you. And just to clarify, within that, the commodity cost that you said was a net headwind, is the view, I assume, over time is that you should get full recoveries to make it EBIT dollar neutral?
Speaker #4: And so it's just a matter of the timing. Is that correct?
Phil Fracassa: Yeah, that is correct. We signaled it probably last quarter. It was modest impact in Q2. It stepped up in Q3 to the 50 basis points that you see. We are expecting probably a comparable headwind, maybe even a little bit higher in Q4. It is a timing issue. It really is across. Think of DRAM and related electronic components. You can think of resins and some aluminum that we buy from tier twos and the like that is embedded in components, if you will. That is where it does take some time to get recoveries from customers. I would tell you we have gotten some. The 50 bps you see is sort of the net headwind for the quarter. Conversations, I would say, are constructive. What we do not recover this year, the plan would be to substantially mitigate or recover in 2027.
Phil Fracassa: Yeah, that is correct. We signaled it probably last quarter. It was modest impact in Q2. It stepped up in Q3 to the 50 basis points that you see. We are expecting probably a comparable headwind, maybe even a little bit higher in Q4. It is a timing issue. It really is across. Think of DRAM and related electronic components. You can think of resins and some aluminum that we buy from tier twos and the like that is embedded in components, if you will. That is where it does take some time to get recoveries from customers. I would tell you we have gotten some. The 50 bps you see is sort of the net headwind for the quarter. Conversations, I would say, are constructive. What we do not recover this year, the plan would be to substantially mitigate or recover in 2027.
Speaker #3: Yeah, that is correct. We signaled it probably last quarter was modest impact in Q2. It stepped up in Q3 to the 50 basis points that you see.
Speaker #3: We're expecting probably a comparable headwind, maybe even a little bit higher in Q4. And it is a timing issue. It really is across think of DRAM and related electronic components.
Speaker #3: You can think of resins and some aluminum that we buy in a from tier twos. And the like, that's embedded in components, if you will.
Speaker #3: And that is where we it does take some time to get recoveries from customers. I would tell you we've gotten some. The 50 bips you see is sort of the net headwind for the quarter.
Speaker #3: Construct conversations, I would say, are constructive, but what we don't recover this year the plan would be to substantially mitigate or recover in 2027.
Dan Levy: Great. Thank you. As a follow-up, one of the automakers mentioned on their call that for one of their new vehicles, they want to bring castings in-house. We have heard this from others as well, this idea to do sort of die casting. So, Body Exteriors & Structures, obviously, you have got some big customer relationships there, and it is pretty chunky content. Maybe you could just talk about the trend by some of the automakers to bring some of the casting in-house and whether that is at all a risk to you.
Dan Levy: Great. Thank you. As a follow-up, one of the automakers mentioned on their call that for one of their new vehicles, they want to bring castings in-house. We have heard this from others as well, this idea to do sort of die casting. So, Body Exteriors & Structures, obviously, you have got some big customer relationships there, and it is pretty chunky content. Maybe you could just talk about the trend by some of the automakers to bring some of the casting in-house and whether that is at all a risk to you.
Speaker #4: Great. Thank you. As a follow-up, one of the automakers mentioned on their call that for one of their new vehicles, they want to bring castings in-house.
Speaker #4: And we've heard this from others, as well, this idea to do sort of gig casting. So BES, obviously, you've got some big customer relationships there and it's pretty chunky content.
Speaker #4: Maybe you could just talk about the trend by some of the automakers to bring some of the casting in-house and whether that's at all a risk to you.
Swamy Kotagiri: The simple answer, Dan, no. The reason I say that is as we continue to have conversations with various customers, actually in all regions of the world, North America, Europe, and China, if anything, we are continuing to see more interest in our capability and bringing forward some inventive or innovative ideas on doing castings on a pretty large scale, right? In the 6,000, 7,000-ton type machines. Some of the technologies we are bringing, which we got PACE Awards last time in terms of the alloy development, in terms of joining technologies and so on. We are able to show some solutions there where two or three castings, which bring together significant consolidation of parts, but at the same time take into account repairability and maintenance and so on and so forth. All in all, a lot of interest. We are not seeing any negative influence.
Swamy Kotagiri: The simple answer, Dan, no. The reason I say that is as we continue to have conversations with various customers, actually in all regions of the world, North America, Europe, and China, if anything, we are continuing to see more interest in our capability and bringing forward some inventive or innovative ideas on doing castings on a pretty large scale, right? In the 6,000, 7,000-ton type machines. Some of the technologies we are bringing, which we got PACE Awards last time in terms of the alloy development, in terms of joining technologies and so on. We are able to show some solutions there where two or three castings, which bring together significant consolidation of parts, but at the same time take into account repairability and maintenance and so on and so forth. All in all, a lot of interest. We are not seeing any negative influence.
Speaker #2: The simple answer, Dan, no. The reason I say that is as we continue to have conversations with various customers actually in all regions of the world, North America, Europe, and China, if anything, we are continuing to see more interest in our capability and bringing forward some inventive or innovative ideas on doing castings on a pretty large scale, right?
Speaker #2: In the six, seven thousand ton type machines. And some of the technologies we are bringing, which we got pace of words last time in terms of the alloy development in terms of joining technologies and so on, and we're able to show some solutions there where two or three castings which bring together significant consolidation of parts, but at the same time take into account repairability and maintenance and so on and so forth.
Speaker #2: So all in all, a lot of interest. We are not seeing any negative influence. We are actually pretty enthusiastic about that process and product.
Swamy Kotagiri: We are actually pretty enthusiastic about that process and product.
Swamy Kotagiri: We are actually pretty enthusiastic about that process and product.
Dan Levy: Great. Thank you. Look forward to seeing you at the investor day.
Dan Levy: Great. Thank you. Look forward to seeing you at the investor day.
Speaker #4: Great. Thank you. Look forward to seeing you to the investor day.
Phil Fracassa: Thanks, Dan.
Phil Fracassa: Thanks, Dan.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Dan.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of James Picariello from BNP Paribas. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of James Picariello from BNP Paribas. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of James Picariello from BNP Paribas. Please go ahead.
James Picariello: Hi. Good morning, everybody. Can you hear me?
James Picariello: Hi. Good morning, everybody. Can you hear me?
Speaker #5: Hi. Good morning, everybody. Can you hear me?
Phil Fracassa: Yeah. Morning, James.
Phil Fracassa: Yeah. Morning, James.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Morning, James.
James Picariello: All right. Second time's a charm. Sorry about that. I know we're going to get all the detail we want in just 2 weeks at the investor day, but as we think about free cash flow and consider the strength in Magna's free cash flow and buybacks commitment, can you confirm the amount of EV recoveries in the outlook, in the free cash flow outlook for this year, and just high level how you're thinking about the puts and takes for the trajectory into next year. Thanks.
James Picariello: All right. Second time's a charm. Sorry about that. I know we're going to get all the detail we want in just 2 weeks at the investor day, but as we think about free cash flow and consider the strength in Magna's free cash flow and buybacks commitment, can you confirm the amount of EV recoveries in the outlook, in the free cash flow outlook for this year, and just high level how you're thinking about the puts and takes for the trajectory into next year. Thanks.
Speaker #5: All right. Second time's a charm. Sorry about that. So I know we're going to get all the detail we want in just two weeks.
Speaker #5: At the investor day, but as we think about free cash flow and consider the strength in Magnus free cash flow and buybacks commitment, can you confirm the amount of EV recoveries in the outlook in the free cash flow outlook for this year and just high-level how you're thinking about the puts and takes for the trajectory into next year?
Speaker #5: Thanks.
Phil Fracassa: Yeah, sure, James. We talked in Q1 that we had a large EV recovery from a North American OEM, and we had talked at that time that it was north of $450 million. We got probably a little bit more in Q3. So as we're sitting here today, I'd probably round the number to about $500 million in the year. And again, some of that would have been cash received. We do have some go-forward impacts as well. But as we look at the free cash flow, it's been very strong on strong earnings, very good working capital management, and then obviously CapEx coming in at the full year guided around 3.6% of sales. So feel really good about the free cash flow, not only in 2026. I'll talk about go-forward in a moment.
Phil Fracassa: Yeah, sure, James. We talked in Q1 that we had a large EV recovery from a North American OEM, and we had talked at that time that it was north of $450 million. We got probably a little bit more in Q3. So as we're sitting here today, I'd probably round the number to about $500 million in the year. And again, some of that would have been cash received. We do have some go-forward impacts as well. But as we look at the free cash flow, it's been very strong on strong earnings, very good working capital management, and then obviously CapEx coming in at the full year guided around 3.6% of sales. So feel really good about the free cash flow, not only in 2026. I'll talk about go-forward in a moment.
Speaker #3: Yeah, sure, James. I would we talked in the first quarter that we had a large EV recovery from a North American OEM and we had talked at that time that it was north of 450 million.
Speaker #3: We got probably a little bit more in Q3. So as we're sitting here today, I'd probably round the number to about 500 million in the year.
Speaker #3: And again, some of the and that would have been sort of cash received we do have some go-forward impacts as well. But as we look at the free cash flow, it's been very strong on strong earnings, very good working capital management.
Speaker #3: And then obviously, CapEx coming in at the full year guide at around kind of 3.6-ish percent of sales. So feel really good about the free cash flow, not only in 2026.
Speaker #3: I'll talk about go-forward in a moment, but balance sheets in great shape. So we ended the quarter with great liquidity. The balance sheets in really good shape.
Phil Fracassa: Balance sheet's in great shape, so we ended the quarter with great liquidity. The balance sheet's in really good shape. We renewed the NCIB, so we feel really good about the cash generation of the business and the ability to continue returning significant capital to shareholders moving forward. As you step forward to 2027, obviously those recoveries won't repeat, but the combination of stronger earnings, again, continued focus on working capital and CapEx, we do believe the free cash flow of the business will remain strong, and we'll continue to be supportive of everything we want to do.
Phil Fracassa: Balance sheet's in great shape, so we ended the quarter with great liquidity. The balance sheet's in really good shape. We renewed the NCIB, so we feel really good about the cash generation of the business and the ability to continue returning significant capital to shareholders moving forward. As you step forward to 2027, obviously those recoveries won't repeat, but the combination of stronger earnings, again, continued focus on working capital and CapEx, we do believe the free cash flow of the business will remain strong, and we'll continue to be supportive of everything we want to do.
Speaker #3: We renewed the NTIB, so we feel really good about the cash generation of the business and the ability to continue returning significant capital to shareholders moving forward.
Speaker #3: As you step forward to 2027, obviously, those recoveries won't repeat, but the combination of stronger earnings, again, continued focus on working capital and CapEx, we do believe the free cash flow of the business will remain strong and will continue to be supportive of everything we want to do.
James Picariello: Got it. No, that's great to hear. On Power & Vision, the growth over market was a clear positive again this quarter, with the full year guide implying another strong showing for Q4. Can you speak to any key factors driving this improvement, either from a product or favorable customer mix perspective? Or is the growth mainly driven by new business backlog contributions? Any color on the Power & Vision growth inflection would be helpful. Thanks.
James Picariello: Got it. No, that's great to hear. On Power & Vision, the growth over market was a clear positive again this quarter, with the full year guide implying another strong showing for Q4. Can you speak to any key factors driving this improvement, either from a product or favorable customer mix perspective? Or is the growth mainly driven by new business backlog contributions? Any color on the Power & Vision growth inflection would be helpful. Thanks.
Speaker #5: Got it. That's great to hear. And then the power on power and vision, the growth over market was a clear positive again. This quarter, with the full-year guide implying another strong showing for the fourth.
Speaker #5: Can you speak to any key factors, driving this improvement, either from a product or favorable customer mix perspective, or is the growth mainly driven by new business backlog contribution?
Speaker #5: Just any color on the power and vision growth inflection would be helpful. Thanks.
Swamy Kotagiri: Yeah. Good morning, James. I think you summarized it. Power & Vision, as you saw, declined 2% in the sales side of things, including the divestiture effects, and the margin improved about 150 basis points and standing at 6.6%. The improvement in this case, or in this segment, definitely was less about commercial recoveries and more about strong operational execution. I would say it's continued traction from our operational excellence initiatives, and it's truly becoming foundational, and we're starting to see that. It's definitely a trajectory going forward, and I don't think there is any one particular product that stands out. Definitely, the launches of some of the programs that we've been working, being in normal cadence and normal run rates definitely helps. The discipline in engineering and launches is the other part.
Swamy Kotagiri: Yeah. Good morning, James. I think you summarized it. Power & Vision, as you saw, declined 2% in the sales side of things, including the divestiture effects, and the margin improved about 150 basis points and standing at 6.6%. The improvement in this case, or in this segment, definitely was less about commercial recoveries and more about strong operational execution. I would say it's continued traction from our operational excellence initiatives, and it's truly becoming foundational, and we're starting to see that. It's definitely a trajectory going forward, and I don't think there is any one particular product that stands out. Definitely, the launches of some of the programs that we've been working, being in normal cadence and normal run rates definitely helps. The discipline in engineering and launches is the other part.
Speaker #2: Yeah. Good morning, James. I think you have summarized it. Power and vision, as you saw decline 2% in the sales side of things, including the devastature effects.
Speaker #2: And the margin improved about 150 basis points and standing at 6.6. The improvement in this case or in this segment definitely was less about commercial recoveries and more about strong operational execution.
Speaker #2: I would say it's continued traction from our operational excellence initiatives. And it's truly becoming foundational. And we are starting to see that. It's definitely a trajectory going forward.
Speaker #2: And I don't think there is any one particular product that stands out. Definitely, the launches of some of the programs that we've been working being a normal cadence and normal run rates definitely helps.
Speaker #2: And the discipline and engineering in launches is the other part. So all in all, I would sum it up as the different headings under the operational excellence is what's giving us the jump and the profitability.
Swamy Kotagiri: All in all, I would sum it up as the different headings under the operational excellencies was giving us the jump in the profitability.
Swamy Kotagiri: All in all, I would sum it up as the different headings under the operational excellencies was giving us the jump in the profitability.
James Picariello: Yeah. No, it is great to see that low to mid-single-digit core growth. Okay, appreciate it.
James Picariello: Yeah. No, it is great to see that low to mid-single-digit core growth. Okay, appreciate it.
Speaker #5: Yeah. No, it's great to see that low to mid-single-digit core growth. Okay. Appreciate it.
Phil Fracassa: Thanks, James.
Phil Fracassa: Thanks, James.
Speaker #3: Thanks, James.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Tammy Chen from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Tammy Chen from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Tammy Chen from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Tamy Chen: Hi, good morning. Thanks for the questions. First, just want to start on the Seating side. Can you remind us again in North America, I think there is the fairly sizable replacement or refresh program that will come. When do you launch that? When we think about overall seating margins as we go towards that launch, is this refresh or renewed program meaningful enough to potentially move those segment margins back to pre-pandemic? Is that how we could think about it?
Tamy Chen: Hi, good morning. Thanks for the questions. First, just want to start on the Seating side. Can you remind us again in North America, I think there is the fairly sizable replacement or refresh program that will come. When do you launch that? When we think about overall seating margins as we go towards that launch, is this refresh or renewed program meaningful enough to potentially move those segment margins back to pre-pandemic? Is that how we could think about it?
Speaker #6: Hi. Good morning. Thanks for the questions. First, just want to start on the seeding side. Can you remind us again in North America, I think there's the fairly sizable replacement or refresh program that will come.
Speaker #6: When do you launch that? And when we think about overall seeding margins, as we go towards that launch, is this refresh or renewed program meaningful enough to potentially move those segment margins back to pre-pandemic?
Speaker #6: Is that how we could think about it?
Swamy Kotagiri: Yeah. Good morning, Tammy. I think the couple of things, right? The program changeovers at Ford Louisville and BMW Spartanburg are the ones that are having impact. As they come back online, you will see the Seating come back to what I would call the normal cadence. If you look at it from last year to how we have been progressing, we are satisfied and seeing what we expected there, other than the program changeovers. The October full year margin outlook is 3.1% to 3.3%, right? So if you take the midpoint, 3.2%, that is in line with what we have been talking about. With the program launches coming in play and the one big program that you mentioned will be fully launched by this time next year. It started now, and it is phasing, right?
Swamy Kotagiri: Yeah. Good morning, Tammy. I think the couple of things, right? The program changeovers at Ford Louisville and BMW Spartanburg are the ones that are having impact. As they come back online, you will see the Seating come back to what I would call the normal cadence. If you look at it from last year to how we have been progressing, we are satisfied and seeing what we expected there, other than the program changeovers. The October full year margin outlook is 3.1% to 3.3%, right? So if you take the midpoint, 3.2%, that is in line with what we have been talking about. With the program launches coming in play and the one big program that you mentioned will be fully launched by this time next year. It started now, and it is phasing, right?
Speaker #2: Yeah. Good morning, Tammy. I think the couple of things, right? The program changeover set Ford Louisville and BMW Spartanburg are the ones that are having impact.
Speaker #2: As they come back into come back online, you'll see a the seeding come back to what I would call the normal cadence. If you look at it from last year to how we've been progressing, we are satisfied and seeing what we expected there, other than the program changeovers.
Speaker #2: And the October full-year margin outlook is 3.1 to 3.3, right? So if you take the midpoint, 3.2. That's in line with what we've been talking about.
Speaker #2: And with the program launches coming in play and the one big program that you mentioned will be fully launched by this time next year.
Speaker #2: It started now and it's phasing, right? And we feel pretty confident in how the launch is going. How the economics are working out. And when all of this comes back, I would say I kind of go back to what I always said about seeding.
Swamy Kotagiri: We feel pretty confident in how the launch is going, how the economics are working out. When all of this comes back, I would say, I kind of go back to what I always said about Seating, good returns business. We are seeing the trajectory we wanted. So this quarter seems a little bit off, but that is because of the changeovers. All in all, it is following the trajectory we had in plan.
Swamy Kotagiri: We feel pretty confident in how the launch is going, how the economics are working out. When all of this comes back, I would say, I kind of go back to what I always said about Seating, good returns business. We are seeing the trajectory we wanted. So this quarter seems a little bit off, but that is because of the changeovers. All in all, it is following the trajectory we had in plan.
Speaker #2: Good returns business. We are seeing the trajectory we wanted. So this quarter seems a little bit off, but that's because of the changeovers. All in all, it's following the trajectory we had in plan.
Phil Fracassa: Yeah, Tammy, the only thing I would add is that we will feel more the impact of the BMW because that is sort of launching kind of as we speak, but we will feel it more in 2027, whereas Ford Louisville will be sort of mid-next year, so that will be kind of a mid-year ramp, if you will. But as Swamy said, the margins this quarter, while they were down year-over-year, were actually better than we anticipated coming into the quarter, because obviously that is a lot of volume to lose, albeit it is temporary, if you will. But the team did a great job on operational excellence and some commercial items to kind of protect margins and moving forward. As Swamy said, with the new economics and the volumes coming back, we feel really good about the ability of seating margins to get back where they were.
Phil Fracassa: Yeah, Tammy, the only thing I would add is that we will feel more the impact of the BMW because that is sort of launching kind of as we speak, but we will feel it more in 2027, whereas Ford Louisville will be sort of mid-next year, so that will be kind of a mid-year ramp, if you will. But as Swamy said, the margins this quarter, while they were down year-over-year, were actually better than we anticipated coming into the quarter, because obviously that is a lot of volume to lose, albeit it is temporary, if you will. But the team did a great job on operational excellence and some commercial items to kind of protect margins and moving forward. As Swamy said, with the new economics and the volumes coming back, we feel really good about the ability of seating margins to get back where they were.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Tammy, the only thing I would add is that we'll still feel more the impact of the BMW because that sort of launching kind of as we speak, but we'll feel it more in '27.
Speaker #3: Whereas Ford Louisville will be sort of mid next year. So that'll be kind of a mid-year ramp, if you will. But as Swami said, the margins this quarter, while they were down year over year, were actually better than we anticipated.
Speaker #3: Coming into the quarter because obviously, that's a lot of volume to lose. Albeit temporary, if you will. But the team did a great job on operational excellence and some commercial items to kind of protect margins and moving forward.
Speaker #3: As Swami said, with the new economics, and the volumes coming back, we feel really good about the ability of seeding margins to get back where they were.
Tamy Chen: Okay. Good to hear. Got it. My follow-up question is the bigger picture. I assume you will talk more about it at the investor day as well, but curious if you can give any insights right now. Your overall operational excellence journey, if you had to describe what inning do you think we are at? What is still to come? I think one of the areas is your Factory of the Future, just continuing to roll out in more facilities. So, if you can give any sort of numbers to help us assess how far along and how much more there is to come from there. Thanks.
Tamy Chen: Okay. Good to hear. Got it. My follow-up question is the bigger picture. I assume you will talk more about it at the investor day as well, but curious if you can give any insights right now. Your overall operational excellence journey, if you had to describe what inning do you think we are at? What is still to come? I think one of the areas is your Factory of the Future, just continuing to roll out in more facilities. So, if you can give any sort of numbers to help us assess how far along and how much more there is to come from there. Thanks.
Speaker #6: Okay. Good to hear. Got it. And my follow-up question is the bigger picture. I assume you'll talk more about it at the investor day as well.
Speaker #6: But curious if you can give any insights right now. Your overall operational excellence journey, if you had to describe what inning do you think we're at?
Speaker #6: What's still to come? I think one of the areas is your factory of the future just continuing to roll out in more facilities. So if you can give any sort of numbers to help us assess how far along and how much more there is to come from there.
Speaker #6: Thanks.
Swamy Kotagiri: Hi. Good morning, Tammy. At the investor day, we will definitely hear from us about a little bit more detail on how our strategy is evolving. We will talk about our growth, our market priorities, and definitely more color on the operational excellence initiatives. I won't put a number on it, but I would still say it is early innings. We are enthused about, and you have seen the traction of what, shout out to the Magna team, everybody on the shop floor, they are sticking to it, doing it. So, with all gratitude towards them, we still feel pretty good about how we are doing. We will also obviously touch on the medium to long-term financial framework when we come to the investor day.
Swamy Kotagiri: Hi. Good morning, Tammy. At the investor day, we will definitely hear from us about a little bit more detail on how our strategy is evolving. We will talk about our growth, our market priorities, and definitely more color on the operational excellence initiatives. I won't put a number on it, but I would still say it is early innings. We are enthused about, and you have seen the traction of what, shout out to the Magna team, everybody on the shop floor, they are sticking to it, doing it. So, with all gratitude towards them, we still feel pretty good about how we are doing. We will also obviously touch on the medium to long-term financial framework when we come to the investor day.
Speaker #2: Hi. Good morning, Tammy. At the investor day, we'll definitely hear from us about a little bit more detail on how our strategy is evolving.
Speaker #2: We'll talk about our growth over market priorities and definitely more color on the operational excellence initiatives. I won't put a number on it, but I would still say it's early innings.
Speaker #2: We are enthused about and you've seen the traction of what shout out to the Magna team everybody on the shop floor. They're sticking to it, doing it.
Speaker #2: So with all gratitude towards them, we still feel pretty good about how we're doing. And then we'll also obviously touch on the medium to long-term financial framework when we come to the investor day.
Tamy Chen: Okay. Thank you.
Tamy Chen: Okay. Thank you.
Speaker #6: Okay. Thank you.
Phil Fracassa: Thanks, Tammy.
Phil Fracassa: Thanks, Tammy.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Tammy.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Alex Perry from Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Alex Perry from Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Alex Perry from Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Alex Perry: Hi. Thanks for taking our questions here. First, I just wanted to ask a little bit more about the change in the guide for this year. Specifically on China, is there any visibility on China improving? How conservative would you say the outlook is at this point with the volatility and visibility you have in that region? Then maybe just walk us through how China sort of varies versus the other regions in terms of the visibility profile, given some of the fragmentation there in the market. Thanks.
Alex Perry: Hi. Thanks for taking our questions here. First, I just wanted to ask a little bit more about the change in the guide for this year. Specifically on China, is there any visibility on China improving? How conservative would you say the outlook is at this point with the volatility and visibility you have in that region? Then maybe just walk us through how China sort of varies versus the other regions in terms of the visibility profile, given some of the fragmentation there in the market. Thanks.
Speaker #7: Hi. Thanks for taking our questions here. I guess first, I just wanted to ask a little bit more about the change in the guide for this year, specifically on China.
Speaker #7: Is there any visibility on China improving? How conservative would you say the outlook is at this point with the volatility and visibility you have in that region?
Speaker #7: And then maybe just walk us through how China sort of varies versus the other regions in terms of the visibility profile given some of the fragmentation there in the market.
Speaker #7: Thanks.
Swamy Kotagiri: Good morning, Alex. As you said, China is pretty dynamic in terms of local consumption versus exports, the dynamics between the Chinese OEMs and the Western OEMs and so on. From our perspective, China vehicle production declined 7% in Q3, and our impact was roughly about 10%. If you peel the onion back a little bit, you will see that the three German OEM group collectively declined approximately 28% in the quarter. Contextually, Magna, when we started, we had a much bigger share with the Western OEMs, but over the last decade, I would say we have grown at 10%+ CAGR in China, and today we are about 65% business or revenue is with the Chinese OEMs in China. We have evolved pretty well. We continue to grow in the long term pretty good. It is an important market for us.
Swamy Kotagiri: Good morning, Alex. As you said, China is pretty dynamic in terms of local consumption versus exports, the dynamics between the Chinese OEMs and the Western OEMs and so on. From our perspective, China vehicle production declined 7% in Q3, and our impact was roughly about 10%. If you peel the onion back a little bit, you will see that the three German OEM group collectively declined approximately 28% in the quarter. Contextually, Magna, when we started, we had a much bigger share with the Western OEMs, but over the last decade, I would say we have grown at 10%+ CAGR in China, and today we are about 65% business or revenue is with the Chinese OEMs in China. We have evolved pretty well. We continue to grow in the long term pretty good. It is an important market for us.
Speaker #2: Good morning, Alex. As you said, China is pretty dynamic in terms of local consumption versus exports. The dynamics between the Chinese OEMs and the Western OEMs and so on.
Speaker #2: From our perspective, China vehicle production declined 7% in Q3, and our impact was roughly about 10%. And if you peel the onion back a little bit, you'll see that the three German OEMs OEM group collectively declined approximately 28% in the quarter.
Speaker #2: So contextually, Magna, when we started, we had a much bigger share with the Western OEMs, but over the last decade, I would say we have grown at 10-plus percent CAGR in China.
Speaker #2: And today, we are about 65% business or revenue is with the Chinese OEMs in China. So we have evolved pretty well. We continue to grow in the long-term pretty good.
Speaker #2: It's an important market for us. And from a financial metrics, I would say we are satisfied and continue to be good and a creative it's a little bit lumpy is how I would characterize it, but our focus remains on the right customers, platforms, products, and definitely returns.
Swamy Kotagiri: For my financial metrics, I would say we are satisfied and continue to be good and accretive. It is a little bit lumpy is how I would characterize it, but our focus remains on the right customers, platforms, products, and definitely returns.
Swamy Kotagiri: For my financial metrics, I would say we are satisfied and continue to be good and accretive. It is a little bit lumpy is how I would characterize it, but our focus remains on the right customers, platforms, products, and definitely returns.
Alex Perry: Really helpful. Then I wanted to ask a little bit about what you are doing with some of the AV players. Maybe help us think about and contextualize maybe the size of the Waymo business, what you are doing there. Could that become significant over time? Then, are you targeting other robotaxi and AV players that are trying to integrate a lot of pieces in the various tech stacks? Thanks.
Alex Perry: Really helpful. Then I wanted to ask a little bit about what you are doing with some of the AV players. Maybe help us think about and contextualize maybe the size of the Waymo business, what you are doing there. Could that become significant over time? Then, are you targeting other robotaxi and AV players that are trying to integrate a lot of pieces in the various tech stacks? Thanks.
Speaker #7: Really helpful. And then I wanted to ask a little bit about what you're doing with some of the AV players. So maybe help us think about in contextualizing the size of the Waymo business, what you're doing there.
Speaker #7: Could that become significant over time? And then are you targeting other robotaxi and AV players that are trying to integrate a lot of pieces and the various tech stacks?
Speaker #7: Thanks.
Swamy Kotagiri: Yeah. I think generally AV is. First of all, I think from a component systems perspective, we have been pretty clear that our focus really is on, call it, the driver assist systems, right? If there is alignment in terms of our product strategy where we can support the AV players in sensors and systems and so on, absolutely yes, and we continue to explore that opportunity. Specifically with Waymo, it is our Complete Vehicles group that has brought value in terms of the upfitting for Waymo, and as we talked about, we are adding more models there. That model will continue to be explored in other areas, or with other customers in other regions. Again, it has got to be something long-term, something that is more partnership and value-driven.
Swamy Kotagiri: Yeah. I think generally AV is. First of all, I think from a component systems perspective, we have been pretty clear that our focus really is on, call it, the driver assist systems, right? If there is alignment in terms of our product strategy where we can support the AV players in sensors and systems and so on, absolutely yes, and we continue to explore that opportunity. Specifically with Waymo, it is our Complete Vehicles group that has brought value in terms of the upfitting for Waymo, and as we talked about, we are adding more models there. That model will continue to be explored in other areas, or with other customers in other regions. Again, it has got to be something long-term, something that is more partnership and value-driven.
Speaker #2: Yeah. I think generally, AV is first of all, I think from a component systems perspective, we have been pretty clear that our focus really is on call it the driver assist systems, right?
Speaker #2: And if there is alignment in terms of our product strategy, where we can support the AV players in sensors and systems and so on, absolutely, yes.
Speaker #2: And we continue to explore that opportunity. Specifically with Waymo, it's our complete vehicle group that is brought value in terms of the upfitting for Waymo.
Speaker #2: And as we talked about, we are adding more models there. That model will continue to be explored in other areas. But with other customers and other regions.
Speaker #2: But again, it's got to be something long-term something that's more partnership and value-driven but we continue to look at it, but we are very polydisciplined and cautious in how we go about it.
Swamy Kotagiri: We continue to look at it, but we are very, call it, disciplined and cautious in how we go about it.
Swamy Kotagiri: We continue to look at it, but we are very, call it, disciplined and cautious in how we go about it.
Alex Perry: That is really helpful. Best of luck going forward.
Alex Perry: That is really helpful. Best of luck going forward.
Speaker #7: That's really helpful. Best of luck going forward.
Phil Fracassa: Thanks, Alex.
Phil Fracassa: Thanks, Alex.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Alex.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Tom Narayan from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Tom Narayan from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Tom Narayan from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Tom Narayan: Hey, Swamy and Phil. Thanks for taking the questions. The first one is on European capacity. It looks like you took a charge in P&V, EUR 76 million in Q3. Just curious what was behind that. We know Jim Farley on the Ford call was saying that Europe has just too much capacity. This is coupled with Chinese exports coming into Europe. So, curious if you expect to see more capacity cuts in Europe at P&V in Europe, or perhaps in other segments? Then I have a follow-up.
Tom Narayan: Hey, Swamy and Phil. Thanks for taking the questions. The first one is on European capacity. It looks like you took a charge in P&V, EUR 76 million in Q3. Just curious what was behind that. We know Jim Farley on the Ford call was saying that Europe has just too much capacity. This is coupled with Chinese exports coming into Europe. So, curious if you expect to see more capacity cuts in Europe at P&V in Europe, or perhaps in other segments? Then I have a follow-up.
Speaker #5: Hey, Swami and Phil. Thanks for taking the questions. The first one is on European capacity. It looks like you took the charge in PNV 76 million in Q3.
Speaker #5: Just curious, what was behind that? We know Jim Farley on the Ford call was saying that Europe has just too much capacity. And then this is coupled with Chinese exports coming into Europe.
Speaker #5: So curious if you expect to see more capacity cuts in Europe at PNV in Europe, or perhaps in other segments, and then have a follow-up.
Swamy Kotagiri: Hi, Tom. Good morning. I think we have been talking about, call it consolidation, restructuring, closures, all of it, over the last four years, and we have done that with 41-plus divisions. A significant portion of that was in Europe. My point being, it has been a continuing journey, so we have been flexing from the times when Europe saw like 21.5 million units to the current 17 million-plus units. So we work along with it. We still are very careful and continue to watch it. I feel pretty comfortable. Again, this is part of the operational excellence, right? Being able to react quickly enough, be agile, and be resilient. So, there is a little bit more work, but nothing that I would call a heavy lift from Magna perspective for Europe.
Swamy Kotagiri: Hi, Tom. Good morning. I think we have been talking about, call it consolidation, restructuring, closures, all of it, over the last four years, and we have done that with 41-plus divisions. A significant portion of that was in Europe. My point being, it has been a continuing journey, so we have been flexing from the times when Europe saw like 21.5 million units to the current 17 million-plus units. So we work along with it. We still are very careful and continue to watch it. I feel pretty comfortable. Again, this is part of the operational excellence, right? Being able to react quickly enough, be agile, and be resilient. So, there is a little bit more work, but nothing that I would call a heavy lift from Magna perspective for Europe.
Speaker #2: Hi, Tom. Good morning. I think we've been talking about call it consolidation, restructuring, closures all of it. Over the last four years, and we have done that with 41-plus divisions.
Speaker #2: A significant portion of that was in Europe. My point being, it's been a continuing journey. So we have been flexing from the time span Europe saw like 21, 21 and a half million units to the current 17 million-plus units.
Speaker #2: So we work along with it. We still are very careful and continue to watch it. I feel pretty comfortable. Again, this is part of the operational excellence, right?
Speaker #2: Being able to react quickly enough, be agile and be resilient. So there is a little bit more work, but nothing that I would call a heavy lift from Magna perspective for Europe.
Tom Narayan: Okay. Then on the buyback plan, that I think is 10% of the float through, I think, November next year. Your leverage is quite low. I know we will hear more on the investor day on this, but the implication is potentially that you are maybe leaving some room for M&A and reinvesting in the business, perhaps in some non-automotive areas. Again, I do not want to steal the thunder here, but is that a fair assumption to make that the buyback plan, which is big, but it is maybe potentially leaving some room for other things too?
Tom Narayan: Okay. Then on the buyback plan, that I think is 10% of the float through, I think, November next year. Your leverage is quite low. I know we will hear more on the investor day on this, but the implication is potentially that you are maybe leaving some room for M&A and reinvesting in the business, perhaps in some non-automotive areas. Again, I do not want to steal the thunder here, but is that a fair assumption to make that the buyback plan, which is big, but it is maybe potentially leaving some room for other things too?
Speaker #5: Okay. And then on the buyback plan, I guess the 10% of the float through, I think, November next year, your leverage is quite low.
Speaker #5: I know we'll hear more on the investor day on this, but the implication is potentially that you're maybe leaving some room for M&A and reinvesting in the business, perhaps in some non-automotive areas.
Speaker #5: Again, I don't want to steal your thunder here, but is that a fair assumption to make that the buyback plan, which is big, but it is maybe potentially leaving some room for other things too?
Swamy Kotagiri: So, I think for us, the capital allocation principles were pretty straightforward. So, I think focus really on the organic profitable growth. That remains very disciplined in terms of going after programs and how we grow. As I said before, Tom, and I think it still holds, we are pretty happy with the portfolio the way we have it today. I do not really see a significant or transformative M&A. Could we see some small tuck-ins that would help our strategy? Yes. So, it would be looking at externalities, the dynamics of their economic conditions and so on and so forth, maintain our financial flexibility and leverage ratios, and the rest, I think, would be share buybacks and dividends, as we see it, as we have done in 2026.
Swamy Kotagiri: So, I think for us, the capital allocation principles were pretty straightforward. So, I think focus really on the organic profitable growth. That remains very disciplined in terms of going after programs and how we grow. As I said before, Tom, and I think it still holds, we are pretty happy with the portfolio the way we have it today. I do not really see a significant or transformative M&A. Could we see some small tuck-ins that would help our strategy? Yes. So, it would be looking at externalities, the dynamics of their economic conditions and so on and so forth, maintain our financial flexibility and leverage ratios, and the rest, I think, would be share buybacks and dividends, as we see it, as we have done in 2026.
Speaker #2: So I think for us, the capital allocation principles were pretty straightforward. So I think focus really on the organic profitable growth that remains. Very disciplined in terms of going after programs and how we grow.
Speaker #2: As I said before, Tom, and I think it still holds, we are pretty happy with the portfolio the way we have it today. I don't really see a significant or transformative M&A.
Speaker #2: Could we see some small tuck-ins that would help our strategy? Yes. So it would be looking at externalities that dynamics of the economic conditions and so on and so forth, maintain our financial flexibility and leverage ratios.
Speaker #2: And the rest, I think, would be share buybacks and dividends. As we see it, as we have done in 2026.
Phil Fracassa: Yeah. And Tom, I would only add that I would probably look at it a little bit different. So we had 10% available to buy back this year, and we have bought back the entire 10%. We have been able to take leverage down. We have been working to bring our leverage down within our range. We are slightly below the top end of our targeted range. We do not feel a need to certainly delever from here, and I do think it puts us, if anything, puts us in great position as we look ahead to next year, from a capital return standpoint. And as Swamy said, continue to invest in the business, and then maybe a tuck-in here or there. But I do feel like the balance sheet capacity we have, we certainly intend to put it to use, similar to what we did this year.
Phil Fracassa: Yeah. And Tom, I would only add that I would probably look at it a little bit different. So we had 10% available to buy back this year, and we have bought back the entire 10%. We have been able to take leverage down. We have been working to bring our leverage down within our range. We are slightly below the top end of our targeted range. We do not feel a need to certainly delever from here, and I do think it puts us, if anything, puts us in great position as we look ahead to next year, from a capital return standpoint. And as Swamy said, continue to invest in the business, and then maybe a tuck-in here or there. But I do feel like the balance sheet capacity we have, we certainly intend to put it to use, similar to what we did this year.
Speaker #3: Yeah. And Tom, I would only add that I would probably look at it a little bit different. So we had 10% available to buy back this year, and we've bought back the entire 10%.
Speaker #3: We have been able to take leverage down. We have been working to bring our leverage down within our range. We're slightly below the top end of our targeted range.
Speaker #3: We don't feel any to certainly delever from here. And I do think it puts us, if anything, puts us in great position as we look ahead to next year from a capital return standpoint and as Swami said, continue to invest in the business and then maybe a tuck-in here or there.
Speaker #3: But I do feel like the balance sheet capacity we have we certainly intend to put it to use similar to what we did this year.
Tom Narayan: Got it. Looking forward to the investor day. Thank you.
Tom Narayan: Got it. Looking forward to the investor day. Thank you.
Speaker #5: Got it. Looking forward to the investor day. Thank you.
Phil Fracassa: Thanks, Tom.
Phil Fracassa: Thanks, Tom.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Tom.
Swamy Kotagiri: Thank you.
Swamy Kotagiri: Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Jonathan Goldman from Scotiabank. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Jonathan Goldman from Scotiabank. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Jonathan Goldman from Scotiabank. Please go ahead.
Jonathan Goldman: Hey. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for taking my questions. Could you just remind us if you've updated any of your expectations for growth over market this year?
Jonathan Goldman: Hey. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for taking my questions. Could you just remind us if you've updated any of your expectations for growth over market this year?
Speaker #5: Hey, good morning, everyone. And thanks for taking my questions. Could you just remind us if you've updated any of your expectations for growth over markets this year?
Phil Fracassa: Yeah. Great question, Jonathan. Given the updates to the volumes that we made in this current outlook, in the quarter, we were slightly above 1% growth over market, roughly 1% excluding Complete Vehicles. Right now, for the full year, we are probably looking at closer to flattish all-in and up 1% excluding Complete Vehicles. So, a little bit down from what we would have guided to last quarter, mainly as a result of the updated volume estimates, and then as we peel the onion back in terms of programs that were on. Swamy talked about the dynamic in China, and then as well as we did have a customer in North America and a customer in Europe add some planned downtime in Q4, where we do have quite a bit of content with those customers.
Phil Fracassa: Yeah. Great question, Jonathan. Given the updates to the volumes that we made in this current outlook, in the quarter, we were slightly above 1% growth over market, roughly 1% excluding Complete Vehicles. Right now, for the full year, we are probably looking at closer to flattish all-in and up 1% excluding Complete Vehicles. So, a little bit down from what we would have guided to last quarter, mainly as a result of the updated volume estimates, and then as we peel the onion back in terms of programs that were on. Swamy talked about the dynamic in China, and then as well as we did have a customer in North America and a customer in Europe add some planned downtime in Q4, where we do have quite a bit of content with those customers.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Great question, Jonathan. So given the updates to the volumes that we made in this current outlook, in the quarter, we were slightly above 1% growth over market, roughly 1% excluding complete vehicles.
Speaker #3: Right now, for the full year, we're probably looking at closer to flattish all-in and up 1% excluding complete vehicles. So a little bit down from what we would have guided to last quarter.
Speaker #3: Mainly as a result of the updated volume estimates and then as we peel the onion back in terms of programs that were on. Swami talked about the dynamic in China.
Speaker #3: And then as well as we do, we did have a customer in North America and a customer in Europe add some planned downtime in the fourth quarter where we do have quite a bit of content with those customers.
Phil Fracassa: As we kind of pulled it all together, it did bring it down. But if you take a step back, as we have said all along, really the downtime and some of the impacts in China is going to move around a little bit. The downtime is really temporary, if you will. We still feel really good about our ability to generate positive growth over market. We have talked about low to mid-single digits in the past. It is not going to be that number every quarter or every year, but really nothing has changed in terms of our long-term view on that.
Phil Fracassa: As we kind of pulled it all together, it did bring it down. But if you take a step back, as we have said all along, really the downtime and some of the impacts in China is going to move around a little bit. The downtime is really temporary, if you will. We still feel really good about our ability to generate positive growth over market. We have talked about low to mid-single digits in the past. It is not going to be that number every quarter or every year, but really nothing has changed in terms of our long-term view on that.
Speaker #3: So as we kind of pulled it all together, it did bring it down. But if you take a step back, as we've said all along, really the downtime and the and some of the impacts in China, China is going to move around a little bit.
Speaker #3: The downtime is really temporary. If you will, we still feel really good about our ability to generate positive growth over market. We've talked about low to mid-single digits in the past.
Speaker #3: It's not going to be that number every quarter or every year, but really nothing's changed in terms of our long-term view on that.
Jonathan Goldman: Okay, that is helpful, and that is a good dovetail to my next question. Maybe by this point in the year, how would you describe your level of visibility on Q4 production, and do you have any early reads on light vehicle production, the environment in 2027, based on some of the commentary you are talking about, downtime and kind of that some coming back and kind of the macro environment you are seeing in your various regions?
Jonathan Goldman: Okay, that is helpful, and that is a good dovetail to my next question. Maybe by this point in the year, how would you describe your level of visibility on Q4 production, and do you have any early reads on light vehicle production, the environment in 2027, based on some of the commentary you are talking about, downtime and kind of that some coming back and kind of the macro environment you are seeing in your various regions?
Speaker #5: Okay. That's helpful. And that's a good dovetail to my next question. Maybe by this point in the year, how would you describe your level of visibility on Q4 production?
Speaker #5: And do you have any early reads on light vehicle production, the environment in 2027 based on some of the commentary you're talking about downtime and kind of that stuff coming back and kind of the macro environment you're seeing in your various regions?
Swamy Kotagiri: Yeah. I think as we go through the planning process, as we are going through right now for 2027, we consider, call it the tribal knowledge of the programs that we have, obviously discussions with the customers and looking at the outside. It kind of seems to be a little bit softer. We have not gotten a final answer to that yet. We will get through the planning process and know it. That is how we are going into it planning. But we will get back a little bit more detail, Jonathan, when we come into February, right? Right now, it would be premature to put numbers on it. But, I would say our biggest focus is assuming a flattish market and how do we continue the momentum we have in our self-help or operational initiatives. That is what I think will give us the confidence, right, of moving forward. So, more color to come.
Swamy Kotagiri: Yeah. I think as we go through the planning process, as we are going through right now for 2027, we consider, call it the tribal knowledge of the programs that we have, obviously discussions with the customers and looking at the outside. It kind of seems to be a little bit softer. We have not gotten a final answer to that yet. We will get through the planning process and know it.
Speaker #2: Yeah. I think as we go through the planning process, as we're going through right now for '27, we consider call it the tribal knowledge of the programs that we have obviously discussions with the customers and looking at the outside.
Speaker #2: Kind of seems to be a little bit softer. We haven't gotten a final answer to that yet. We'll get through the planning process and know it.
Swamy Kotagiri: That is how we are going into it planning. But we will get back a little bit more detail, Jonathan, when we come into February, right? Right now, it would be premature to put numbers on it. But, I would say our biggest focus is assuming a flattish market and how do we continue the momentum we have in our self-help or operational initiatives. That is what I think will give us the confidence, right, of moving forward. So, more color to come.
Speaker #2: And that's how we are going into it planning. But we'll get back a little bit more detail, Jonathan, when we come into February, right?
Speaker #2: Right now, it'll be premature to put numbers on it, but I would say our biggest focus is assuming a flattish market and how do we continue the momentum we have in our self-help or operational initiatives.
Speaker #2: And that's what I think will give us the confidence, right, of moving forward. So more color to come.
Jonathan Goldman: No, that is fair, and definitely seen the progress on the operational excellence is coming through. I guess related to that, if I can squeeze one more in on free cash flow, I think it is going to be the second year in a row you are doing close to $2 billion, maybe $1.875 billion, $1.9 billion. Is there anything that sticks out that is unusual in this year, last year? Or should this be kind of like the go-forward run rate, free cash flow and free cash flow conversion, and maybe upside if you are able to squeeze more out on the operational excellence?
Jonathan Goldman: No, that is fair, and definitely seen the progress on the operational excellence is coming through. I guess related to that, if I can squeeze one more in on free cash flow, I think it is going to be the second year in a row you are doing close to $2 billion, maybe $1.875 billion, $1.9 billion. Is there anything that sticks out that is unusual in this year, last year? Or should this be kind of like the go-forward run rate, free cash flow and free cash flow conversion, and maybe upside if you are able to squeeze more out on the operational excellence?
Speaker #5: No, that's fair. And definitely seeing the progress on the operational excellence is coming through. And I guess related to that, if I can squeeze one more in on free cash flow, I think it's going to be the second year in a row you're doing close to $2 billion maybe $1.875, $1.9 billion.
Speaker #5: Is there anything that sticks out that's unusual in this year, last year? Or should this be kind of like the go-forward run rate of free cash flow and free cash flow conversion and maybe upside if you're able to squeeze more out on the operational excellence?
Phil Fracassa: Yeah. No, great question, Jonathan. If you look at last year and this year, free cash flow were quite good in both years. Over 100% conversion on adjusted net income last year, and the midpoint of the guide would imply right around 100% conversion on adjusted net income this year. So, really strong performance. We did have some recoveries last year related to some EV investments. We did have some recoveries, as I talked about earlier, this year. But moving forward, as we have talked about, with earnings growth, strong working capital management, and discipline around CapEx, we do expect the strong free cash flow to continue. It is a little early to talk about 2027, but even with those recoveries not recurring, we do expect to continue to generate strong conversion on net income, strong free cash flow, which should be very supportive of our capital allocation strategies.
Phil Fracassa: Yeah. No, great question, Jonathan. If you look at last year and this year, free cash flow were quite good in both years. Over 100% conversion on adjusted net income last year, and the midpoint of the guide would imply right around 100% conversion on adjusted net income this year. So, really strong performance. We did have some recoveries last year related to some EV investments. We did have some recoveries, as I talked about earlier, this year. But moving forward, as we have talked about, with earnings growth, strong working capital management, and discipline around CapEx, we do expect the strong free cash flow to continue. It is a little early to talk about 2027, but even with those recoveries not recurring, we do expect to continue to generate strong conversion on net income, strong free cash flow, which should be very supportive of our capital allocation strategies.
Speaker #3: Yeah. No, great question, Jonathan. So if you look at last year and this year free cash flow, we're quite good in both years. Over 100% conversion on adjusted net income last year in the midpoint of the guide would imply right around 100% conversion on adjusted net income this year.
Speaker #3: So really strong performance. We did have some recoveries last year related to some EV investments. We had some we did have some recoveries, as I talked about earlier.
Speaker #3: This year. But moving forward, as we've talked about with earnings growth, strong working capital management, and discipline around capex, we do expect a strong free cash flow to continue.
Speaker #3: It's a little early to talk about 2027, but even with the even with those recoveries, not recurring, we do expect to continue to generate strong conversion on net income, strong free cash flow, which should be very supportive of our capital allocation strategy.
Jonathan Goldman: Okay, that is good to hear. Thanks for taking my questions. I will get back in queue.
Jonathan Goldman: Okay, that is good to hear. Thanks for taking my questions. I will get back in queue.
Speaker #5: Okay. That's good to hear. Thanks for taking my questions. I'll get back to you.
Swamy Kotagiri: Thank you.
Swamy Kotagiri: Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Rajat Gupta from J.P. Morgan. Apologies. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Rajat Gupta from J.P. Morgan. Apologies. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Rajat Gupta from RP Morgan. JP Morgan, apologies. Please go ahead.
Rajat Gupta: Great. Thanks for taking the question. I wanted to follow up on the AV and robotaxi opportunity. We keep hearing a lot from both Western and Chinese OEMs about insourcing a lot of the work, particularly the higher value, software, hardware, et cetera. I am curious, as your conversations have progressed on the opportunity, what has changed versus what has been intact in terms of where you are playing across the ADAS stack? Are there any opportunities either from an M&A side that can help you enhance your stack in the future? Just curious, what is the latest there? I have a quick follow-up.
Rajat Gupta: Great. Thanks for taking the question. I wanted to follow up on the AV and robotaxi opportunity. We keep hearing a lot from both Western and Chinese OEMs about insourcing a lot of the work, particularly the higher value, software, hardware, et cetera. I am curious, as your conversations have progressed on the opportunity, what has changed versus what has been intact in terms of where you are playing across the ADAS stack? Are there any opportunities either from an M&A side that can help you enhance your stack in the future? Just curious, what is the latest there? I have a quick follow-up.
Speaker #4: Great. Thanks for taking the questions. I just wanted to follow up on the AV and robotaxi opportunity. We keep hearing a lot from both Western and Chinese OEMs about insourcing a lot of the work, particularly the higher value, software layer, etc.
Speaker #4: I'm curious, as your conversations have progressed on the opportunity what has changed versus what has been intact in terms of where you're playing across that ADAS stack?
Speaker #4: And are there any opportunities either from an M&A side that can help you enhance your stack in the future? Just curious. What's the latest there?
Speaker #4: I have a quick follow-up.
Swamy Kotagiri: Hi, Rajat. Good morning. I think the way, again, I have said, we kind of look that domain as driver assist systems and call it full autonomy. As you look into the story of the driver assist, and depending on who you talk to, let us say that in generic terms, L3 or L3++ scenario, there is a lot of discussions, as you said, and depends on the region and also depends on the type of the vehicle, whether you have sensors that have edge compute and that architecture. There are some which are talking about zonal architecture, and then there are some which is complete central compute. If you sit back and look at it from the ability to provide either edge compute or sensors that support the central or zonal architecture, I would say we are pretty well-positioned in being able to support that.
Swamy Kotagiri: Hi, Rajat. Good morning. I think the way, again, I have said, we kind of look that domain as driver assist systems and call it full autonomy. As you look into the story of the driver assist, and depending on who you talk to, let us say that in generic terms, L3 or L3++ scenario, there is a lot of discussions, as you said, and depends on the region and also depends on the type of the vehicle, whether you have sensors that have edge compute and that architecture. There are some which are talking about zonal architecture, and then there are some which is complete central compute. If you sit back and look at it from the ability to provide either edge compute or sensors that support the central or zonal architecture, I would say we are pretty well-positioned in being able to support that.
Speaker #2: Hi, Rajat. Good morning. I think the way, again, I've said we kind of looked at domain as driver assist systems and call it full autonomy.
Speaker #2: As you look into the story of the driver assist and depending on who you talk to, let's say the engineering terms L3 or L3++ scenario, there's a lot of discussions, as you said, and depends on the region and also depends on the type of the vehicle, whether you have sensors that have edge compute and that architecture.
Speaker #2: There are some which are talking about zonal architecture and then there are some which is complete central compute. If you sit back and look at it from the ability to provide either edge compute or sensors that support the central or zonal architecture, I would say we are pretty well that.
Swamy Kotagiri: Not just giving them the pieces of it, but actually the integration of all of these systems put together and be able to provide a feature that our customers want and ultimately the consumers want, I think we are in a decent place. We have to be a little disciplined, like you said, until there is a little bit of a clearer path on which way it goes, and it is different by regions, and what the chip strategies are. I think they are a little bit cautious at this point in time. I would be focused on continuing to expand our strength rather than look at any inorganic activity at this point in time. We feel pretty good where we are. We will stay disciplined and focused, and be deliberate on the customers and programs we pick. We are watching.
Swamy Kotagiri: Not just giving them the pieces of it, but actually the integration of all of these systems put together and be able to provide a feature that our customers want and ultimately the consumers want, I think we are in a decent place. We have to be a little disciplined, like you said, until there is a little bit of a clearer path on which way it goes, and it is different by regions, and what the chip strategies are. I think they are a little bit cautious at this point in time. I would be focused on continuing to expand our strength rather than look at any inorganic activity at this point in time. We feel pretty good where we are. We will stay disciplined and focused, and be deliberate on the customers and programs we pick. We are watching.
Speaker #2: Not just giving them the pieces of it, but actually the integration of all of this systems put together and be able to provide a feature that the our customers want and ultimately the consumers want, I think we're in a decent place.
Speaker #2: We have to be a little disciplined, like you said, until there is a little bit of a clearer path on which way it goes and it's different by regions and what the chip strategies are so I think they're a little bit cautious at this point in time.
Speaker #2: I would be focused on continuing to expand our strength rather than look at any inorganic activity at this point in time. We feel pretty good where we are.
Speaker #2: We'll stay disciplined and focused and be deliberate on the customers and programs we pick. And we're watching.
Rajat Gupta: Understood. That is helpful. Then just wanted to follow up on the commodities headwind. I am curious, versus the prior outlook, how much higher is the margin headwind from commodities? Within that, what parts are just indexed and easily recoverable versus which is what you might have to offset with more internal initiatives? Thanks.
Rajat Gupta: Understood. That is helpful. Then just wanted to follow up on the commodities headwind. I am curious, versus the prior outlook, how much higher is the margin headwind from commodities? Within that, what parts are just indexed and easily recoverable versus which is what you might have to offset with more internal initiatives? Thanks.
Speaker #4: Understood. That's helpful. And then just wanted to follow up on the commodities. Hadwin, I'm curious, versus the prior health work, how much higher is the margin, Hadwin, from commodities?
Speaker #4: And within that, what parts are just indexed and easily recoverable versus what you might have to offset with more internal initiatives? Thanks.
Phil Fracassa: Yeah, sure, Rajat. This is Phil. I would say it definitely got worse since the last outlook. I do not have the exact number, but it certainly got incrementally worse both in Q3 and Q4 versus the prior outlook. Obviously, we actually are doing a little bit better on operational excellence, which is helping to mitigate that a little bit. When you take a step back, you look across key commodities, steel and aluminum were pretty well covered with resale programs with customers or index pass-throughs, if you will. We do have some exposure on aluminum from tier twos if it is embedded in components and the like. On resins, we have said, we have about 40% that is protected through indexes. The rest, we would have to negotiate commercially with the customer to get recoveries for.
Phil Fracassa: Yeah, sure, Rajat. This is Phil. I would say it definitely got worse since the last outlook. I do not have the exact number, but it certainly got incrementally worse both in Q3 and Q4 versus the prior outlook. Obviously, we actually are doing a little bit better on operational excellence, which is helping to mitigate that a little bit. When you take a step back, you look across key commodities, steel and aluminum were pretty well covered with resale programs with customers or index pass-throughs, if you will. We do have some exposure on aluminum from tier twos if it is embedded in components and the like. On resins, we have said, we have about 40% that is protected through indexes. The rest, we would have to negotiate commercially with the customer to get recoveries for.
Speaker #3: Yeah, sure, Rajat. This is Phil. So I would say it definitely got worse since the last outlook. I don't have the exact number, but it's certainly got incrementally worse both in Q3 and Q4 versus the prior outlook.
Speaker #3: And obviously, we actually did are doing a little bit better on operational excellence, which is helping to mitigate that a little bit. But when you take a step back, you look across key commodities, steel and aluminum were pretty well covered with resale programs with customers or index pass-throughs, if you will.
Speaker #3: We do have some exposure on aluminum from tier twos if it's embedded in components and the like. On resins, we've said we have about 40% that's protected through indexes the rest.
Speaker #3: We would have to negotiate commercially with the customer to get recoveries for. And then the bigger thing that's really is continuing to escalate and probably the biggest driver behind what we saw in the second half has been the DRAM and the related electronic components, whether it's the boards and the like.
Phil Fracassa: The bigger thing that is really continuing to escalate, probably the biggest driver behind what we saw in H2 has been the DRAM and the related electronic components, whether it is the boards and the like. We are seeing increases there as well. On most of that, the vast majority of that is where we have to negotiate with our customers for recoveries. As I have said, that is ongoing. We have actually secured some already. The conversations have been real constructive. The headwind we saw in Q3, we would expect another headwind, I would say, of a, call it similar size in Q4, and then obviously work to recover or mitigate the impact of those items as we move into next year.
Phil Fracassa: The bigger thing that is really continuing to escalate, probably the biggest driver behind what we saw in H2 has been the DRAM and the related electronic components, whether it is the boards and the like. We are seeing increases there as well. On most of that, the vast majority of that is where we have to negotiate with our customers for recoveries. As I have said, that is ongoing. We have actually secured some already. The conversations have been real constructive. The headwind we saw in Q3, we would expect another headwind, I would say, of a, call it similar size in Q4, and then obviously work to recover or mitigate the impact of those items as we move into next year.
Speaker #3: We're seeing increases there as well. And on most of that, the vast majority of that is where we have to negotiate with our customers for recoveries.
Speaker #3: And as I've said, that's ongoing. We've actually secured some already. The conversations have been real constructive, but the headwind we saw in Q3, we'd expect another headwind, I would say, of a call it similar size in Q4.
Speaker #3: And then obviously work to recover or mitigate the impact of those items. As we move into next year.
Rajat Gupta: Understood. Great. Thanks for all the color and good luck.
Rajat Gupta: Understood. Great. Thanks for all the color and good luck.
Speaker #4: Understood. Great. Thanks for all the color and good luck.
Phil Fracassa: Thanks, Rajat.
Phil Fracassa: Thanks, Rajat.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Rajat.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Joe Spak from UBS. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Joe Spak from UBS. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Joe Spack from UBS. Please go ahead.
Joe Spak: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Maybe, Phil, if we could just sort of recap. I mean, you sort of made the 6% and 6.4% sort of jumping off point, and we could all make our own volume assumptions. Then you talked about operational excellence, which is still in early innings, but some of that might get eaten away by the inflation headwinds. I guess the question is really on that operational excellence. I think you were targeting 35 to 40 this year, and Swamy, you still sort of said it is early innings. Correct me if I am wrong, but is not some of the new contracts rolling on versus the old ones rolling off, like part of that operational excellence? Are we through most of that, or is there still just more favorable contracts that still continue to roll on that still support that operational excellence?
Joe Spak: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Maybe, Phil, if we could just sort of recap. I mean, you sort of made the 6% and 6.4% sort of jumping off point, and we could all make our own volume assumptions. Then you talked about operational excellence, which is still in early innings, but some of that might get eaten away by the inflation headwinds. I guess the question is really on that operational excellence. I think you were targeting 35 to 40 this year, and Swamy, you still sort of said it is early innings. Correct me if I am wrong, but is not some of the new contracts rolling on versus the old ones rolling off, like part of that operational excellence? Are we through most of that, or is there still just more favorable contracts that still continue to roll on that still support that operational excellence?
Speaker #5: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Maybe Phil, if we could just sort of recap. I mean, you sort of made the six and 6.4% sort of jumping-off point.
Speaker #5: And look, we could all make our own volume assumptions. And then you talked about operational excellence, which is still in the early innings, but that some of that might get eaten away by the inflation headwinds.
Speaker #5: I guess the question is really on that operational excellence. I think you were targeting 35 to 40 this year and Swami, you still sort of said it's early innings, but isn't and correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't some of the new contracts rolling on versus the old ones rolling off part of that operational excellence?
Speaker #5: And shouldn't we are we through most of that, or is there still more just more favorable contracts that still continue to roll and that still support that operational excellence?
Swamy Kotagiri: So, good morning, Joe. I will make a few points. No, it is not just the new economics. When we talk about operational excellence, this is on top of that. I do not think it is the right way to characterize that whatever we do is being eaten away by inflation. I think some of the inflation is the recoveries and the economics that we talked about. On the other hand, what we talked about operational excellence is the self-help activities, right? The best way, at least the way we are looking at it is, from last year to this year, about 1.5% lesser revenue and about 80 basis points better in margin, right? That will continue. What I said was 35 to 40 basis points is what we said last time. We are kind of tracking more towards 50 this year
Swamy Kotagiri: So, good morning, Joe. I will make a few points. No, it is not just the new economics. When we talk about operational excellence, this is on top of that. I do not think it is the right way to characterize that whatever we do is being eaten away by inflation. I think some of the inflation is the recoveries and the economics that we talked about. On the other hand, what we talked about operational excellence is the self-help activities, right? The best way, at least the way we are looking at it is, from last year to this year, about 1.5% lesser revenue and about 80 basis points better in margin, right? That will continue. What I said was 35 to 40 basis points is what we said last time. We are kind of tracking more towards 50 this year
Speaker #2: So good morning, Joe. I'll make a few points. No, it's not just a new economics. When we talk about operational excellence, this. On top of that.
Speaker #2: And I don't think it's the right way to characterize that whatever we do is being eaten away by inflation. I think some of the inflation is the recoveries and the economics that you talked about.
Speaker #2: On the other hand, what we talk about operational excellence is the self-help activities, right? So the best way at least the way we are looking at it is from last year to this year, about one and a half percent lesser revenue and about 80 basis points better in margin, right?
Speaker #2: So and that will continue what I said was 35 to 40 basis points is what we said last time. We're kind of tracking more towards 50 this year.
Joe Spak: Okay
Joe Spak: Okay
Swamy Kotagiri: for the margin benefit. If you ask me, like Phil said, if you take the midpoint of 6.4 on a flattish production environment, I would venture to say it is very likely for us to look at another 35 to 40 basis points going into next year on operational excellence. You talked about externalities. That is anybody's guess, right? Production-
Swamy Kotagiri: for the margin benefit. If you ask me, like Phil said, if you take the midpoint of 6.4 on a flattish production environment, I would venture to say it is very likely for us to look at another 35 to 40 basis points going into next year on operational excellence. You talked about externalities. That is anybody's guess, right? Production-
Speaker #2: For the margin benefit. And if you ask me, like Phil said, if you take the midpoint of 6.4 on a flattish production environment, I would venture to say it's very likely for us to look at another 35 to 40 basis points going into next year on operational excellence.
Speaker #2: Now, you talked about externalities. That's anybody's guess, right? Production, mix, interest rates. Yeah, that's industry-driven. So we are really focused on what can we do that's in our control and that's what I'm talking about.
Joe Spak: Right
Joe Spak: Right
Swamy Kotagiri: mix, interest rates, that is industry-driven. We are really focused on what can we do that is in our control, and that is what I am talking about.
Swamy Kotagiri: mix, interest rates, that is industry-driven. We are really focused on what can we do that is in our control, and that is what I am talking about.
Speaker #5: Yeah, absolutely. That's helpful. And then Phil, maybe just one point on the NCIB. I think last year when you're new to it, there was some commentary about a commitment to sort of fully executed.
Joe Spak: Absolutely. That is helpful. Phil, maybe just one point on the NCIB. I think last year when you renewed it, there was some commentary about a commitment to fully execute it. Can we assume that again, or is it a little bit play by year as to how much of that authorization you will attack this year?
Joe Spak: Absolutely. That is helpful. Phil, maybe just one point on the NCIB. I think last year when you renewed it, there was some commentary about a commitment to fully execute it. Can we assume that again, or is it a little bit play by year as to how much of that authorization you will attack this year?
Speaker #5: Can we assume that again or is it a little bit played by year as to sort of how much of that authorization you'll attack this year?
Speaker #3: Yeah, no, thanks, Joe. What I would say is you're right. Back in February, we did indicate our intention to exhaust the current NCIB, which we've done.
Phil Fracassa: No, thanks, Joe. What I would say is, you are right. Back in February, we did indicate our intention to exhaust the current NCIB, which we have done. We put the new one in place. It will take effect in a week or 2. Probably a little bit early to talk specifically about it, but as I said earlier, when we think about the strong free cash flow and our expectation for that to continue and the balance sheet being in great shape, I mean, we are in great position to continue to buy back substantial amount of shares. I would expect that we will have buybacks certainly in Q4 that we will be talking about next call, if you will. But in terms of being more specific than that, it is probably a little early and probably, I would say, more to come on that.
Phil Fracassa: No, thanks, Joe. What I would say is, you are right. Back in February, we did indicate our intention to exhaust the current NCIB, which we have done. We put the new one in place. It will take effect in a week or 2. Probably a little bit early to talk specifically about it, but as I said earlier, when we think about the strong free cash flow and our expectation for that to continue and the balance sheet being in great shape, I mean, we are in great position to continue to buy back substantial amount of shares. I would expect that we will have buybacks certainly in Q4 that we will be talking about next call, if you will. But in terms of being more specific than that, it is probably a little early and probably, I would say, more to come on that.
Speaker #3: We put the new one in place. It'll take effect in a week or two. Probably a little bit early to talk specifically about it, but as I said earlier, when we think about the strong free cash flow and our expectation for that to continue, and the balance sheet being in great shape, I mean, we are in great position to continue to buy back substantial amount of shares.
Speaker #3: And I would expect that we will have buybacks certainly in the fourth quarter that we'll be talking about next call, if you will. But in terms of being more specific in that, it's probably a little early and probably I would say more to come on that.
Joe Spak: Okay. If I could squeeze one quick one in.
Joe Spak: Okay. If I could squeeze one quick one in.
Speaker #5: Okay. If I could squeeze one quick one in, just your fourth quarter at the midpoint of the range, right, we could all sort of calculate that.
Phil Fracassa: Sure
Phil Fracassa: Sure
Joe Spak: your Q4 at the midpoint of the range, right? We could all sort of calculate that. But it is still like ±9% on either side, which with 2 months left seems a little bit wide. Any color commentary about just sort of how we should expect the year to finish up.
Joe Spak: your Q4 at the midpoint of the range, right? We could all sort of calculate that. But it is still like ±9% on either side, which with 2 months left seems a little bit wide. Any color commentary about just sort of how we should expect the year to finish up.
Speaker #5: But it is still plus or minus 9% on either side, which are two months left seems a little bit wide. So any color commentary about just sort of how we should expect the year to finish up?
Phil Fracassa: Yeah, I mean, I think you are right. We narrowed the adjusted EBIT margin down to 6.3% to 6.5%, which probably 20 basis points on a full year with 1 quarter to go is maybe a little bit wide. But again, I think we feel, I would say, feel very confident in our ability to land in that range, and I would probably focus mainly on the midpoint of that range, plus or minus. Yeah, I think when you think about the headwinds that got layered into the Q4 between volumes, between
Phil Fracassa: Yeah, I mean, I think you are right. We narrowed the adjusted EBIT margin down to 6.3% to 6.5%, which probably 20 basis points on a full year with 1 quarter to go is maybe a little bit wide. But again, I think we feel, I would say, feel very confident in our ability to land in that range, and I would probably focus mainly on the midpoint of that range, plus or minus.
Speaker #3: Yeah, I mean, I think you're right. We narrowed the adjusted EBIT margin down to 63 to 65, which probably in 20 basis points on a full year with one quarter ago is maybe a little bit wide.
Speaker #3: But again, I think we feel I would say feel very confident in our ability to land in that range. And I would focus I would probably focus mainly on the midpoint of that range plus or minus.
Speaker #3: And yeah, and I think when you think about the headwinds that got layered into the fourth quarter between volumes, between mix, between commodity cost, etc., I think Phil really confident in the full-year guide, in the midpoint would imply roughly 7.3% margins in Q4, which is a step up from Q3, despite incremental headwinds.
Phil Fracassa: Yeah, I think when you think about the headwinds that got layered into the Q4 between volumes, between mix, between commodity costs, et cetera, I think feel really confident in the full year guide. The midpoint would imply roughly 7.3% margins in Q4, which is a step up from Q3, despite incremental headwinds, then down only 20 basis points from last year. You remember last year was a bit of a tough comp given the significant recoveries we got last year that we do not expect to recur.
Phil Fracassa: mix, between commodity costs, et cetera, I think feel really confident in the full year guide. The midpoint would imply roughly 7.3% margins in Q4, which is a step up from Q3, despite incremental headwinds, then down only 20 basis points from last year. You remember last year was a bit of a tough comp given the significant recoveries we got last year that we do not expect to recur.
Speaker #3: And then down only 20 bips from last year. And you remember last year was a bit of a tough comp given the significant recoveries we got last year, right, that we don't expect to recur.
Joe Spak: Yeah. Okay. Thanks so much for that, Phil.
Joe Spak: Yeah. Okay. Thanks so much for that, Phil.
Speaker #5: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Thanks so much for that, Phil.
Phil Fracassa: Thanks, Joe.
Phil Fracassa: Thanks, Joe.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Joe.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Brian Morrison from TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Brian Morrison from TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Brian Morrison from TD Cohen. Please go ahead.
Brian Morrison: Thank you. I appreciate all the answers today. I just have a couple housekeeping. Phil, Swamy, can you just remind me what the Complete Vehicles assembly theoretical capacity is in Europe? I think it was like 150,000 units several years back. What is the volume capacity in Arizona and Asia? Second question, just quickly for housekeeping, why the increase in the value of the euro in your updated guide? I realize that most of the year is over, but at EUR 1.11 now, directionally, I am a little bit surprised it went up.
Brian Morrison: Thank you. I appreciate all the answers today. I just have a couple housekeeping. Phil, Swamy, can you just remind me what the Complete Vehicles assembly theoretical capacity is in Europe? I think it was like 150,000 units several years back. What is the volume capacity in Arizona and Asia? Second question, just quickly for housekeeping, why the increase in the value of the euro in your updated guide? I realize that most of the year is over, but at EUR 1.11 now, directionally, I am a little bit surprised it went up.
Speaker #4: Thank you. I appreciate all the answers today. I just have a couple of housekeeping Phil or Swami, can you just remind me what the complete vehicle assembly theoretical capacity is in Europe?
Speaker #4: I think it was like 150,000 units several years back. And what is the volume capacity in Arizona and Asia? And then second question, just quickly for housekeeping, why the increase in the value of the euro in your updated guide?
Speaker #4: I realize that most of the year is over, but at $1.11 now, directionally a little bit surprised it went up.
Speaker #2: So good morning, Brian. You're right about the assumption. Approximately 150,000 units, right, in our Europe facility. On the one in Arizona, it's not based on paint and body shop and so on.
Swamy Kotagiri: Good morning, Brian. You are right about the assumption, approximately 150,000 units, in our Europe facility. The one in Arizona, it is not based on paint and body shop and so on, so it is flexible, I would say. It is just based on a little bit of footprint, but it could be very agile. It is not as asset-heavy or capital-intensive, so that could flex pretty easily. It is not constrained by anything.
Swamy Kotagiri: Good morning, Brian. You are right about the assumption, approximately 150,000 units, in our Europe facility. The one in Arizona, it is not based on paint and body shop and so on, so it is flexible, I would say. It is just based on a little bit of footprint, but it could be very agile. It is not as asset-heavy or capital-intensive, so that could flex pretty easily. It is not constrained by anything.
Speaker #2: So it's flexible. I would say so it's just based on a little bit of footprint, but it could be very agile it's not as asset-heavy or capital-intensive.
Speaker #2: So that could flex pretty easily. So it's not constrained by anything.
Phil Fracassa: Yeah. On the currency, Brian, I would just add, we generally tend to snap the line at the end of the quarter, and that is kind of what we did this time around. Currency is going to move around, and you are right, the dollar-euro is probably sitting at probably 112 today, if you will, so a little bit weaker than what we had guided. My experience, I think we consistently like to snap the line at the end of the quarter, and that is kind of what we did in this case.
Phil Fracassa: Yeah. On the currency, Brian, I would just add, we generally tend to snap the line at the end of the quarter, and that is kind of what we did this time around. Currency is going to move around, and you are right, the dollar-euro is probably sitting at probably 112 today, if you will, so a little bit weaker than what we had guided. My experience, I think we consistently like to snap the line at the end of the quarter, and that is kind of what we did in this case.
Speaker #3: And then on the currency, Brian, I would say I would just add we generally tend to snap the line, kind of at the end of the quarter.
Speaker #3: And that's kind of what we did this time around. Currency is going to move around. And you're right. The dollar euro's price sitting at probably 112 today, if you will.
Speaker #3: So a little bit weaker than what we had guided. But my experience, I think we consistently like to snap the line at the end of the quarter.
Speaker #3: And that's kind of what we did in this case.
Speaker #2: And Brian just add one other thing in China. They complete vehicle assembly capacities roughly about 180,000 just to complete the picture.
Swamy Kotagiri: Brian, just to add one other thing, in China, the Complete Vehicles assembly capacity is roughly about 180,000, just to complete the picture.
Swamy Kotagiri: Brian, just to add one other thing, in China, the Complete Vehicles assembly capacity is roughly about 180,000, just to complete the picture.
Brian Morrison: Thank you.
Brian Morrison: Thank you.
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Mark Delaney from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Mark Delaney from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Mark Delaney from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Mark Delaney: Good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking the questions, and looking forward to seeing you soon at the investor day. I had another one on Complete Vehicles. I think EBIT for H2 2026 per your current guidance is relatively flat year-on-year. Given all the work Magna is doing in EV upfitting, as well as the growing business you are speaking about with the Chinese OEMs, including in Europe, can you help contextualize what that all means for the ability to grow Complete Vehicles EBIT from here?
Mark Delaney: Good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking the questions, and looking forward to seeing you soon at the investor day. I had another one on Complete Vehicles. I think EBIT for H2 2026 per your current guidance is relatively flat year-on-year. Given all the work Magna is doing in EV upfitting, as well as the growing business you are speaking about with the Chinese OEMs, including in Europe, can you help contextualize what that all means for the ability to grow Complete Vehicles EBIT from here?
Speaker #5: Good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking the questions and looking forward to seeing you soon at the Investor Day. I had another one on complete vehicles.
Speaker #5: I think EBIT for 2H26, per your current guidance, is relatively flat year on year. Given all the work Magna is doing and AV updating as well as the growing business you're speaking about with the Chinese OEMs, including in Europe, can you help contextualize what that all means for the ability to grow complete vehicles EBIT from here?
Phil Fracassa: Yeah, sure, Mark. So basically what we are seeing in Complete Vehicles, obviously this year has been impacted by lower engineering revenue has certainly been the negative, but on the positive side, the launches that we have seen with Chinese OEMs in Graz have gone very well. Those contracts are on a value-added basis, and that is really the model we are going to work going forward in Complete Vehicles is more on a value-added basis, so the margins will be higher, revenue dollars will be a little bit lower. That is what is giving you the dynamic of lower revenue, but higher margins, if you will.
Phil Fracassa: Yeah, sure, Mark. So basically what we are seeing in Complete Vehicles, obviously this year has been impacted by lower engineering revenue has certainly been the negative, but on the positive side, the launches that we have seen with Chinese OEMs in Graz have gone very well. Those contracts are on a value-added basis, and that is really the model we are going to work going forward in Complete Vehicles is more on a value-added basis, so the margins will be higher, revenue dollars will be a little bit lower. That is what is giving you the dynamic of lower revenue, but higher margins, if you will.
Speaker #3: Yeah, sure. Sure, Mark. So basically what we're seeing in complete vehicles, obviously this year has been impacted by we lower engineering revenue and certainly been the negative.
Speaker #3: But on the positive side, the launches that we've seen with Chinese OEMs and garage have gone very well. Those contracts are on a value-added basis.
Speaker #3: And that's really the model we're going to work going forward in complete vehicles is more on a value-added basis. So the margins will be higher, revenue dollars will be a little bit lower.
Speaker #3: That's what's giving you the dynamic of lower revenue, but higher margins if you will. But moving forward, again, I do see we do see a path for continued growth in complete vehicles, whether it's in garage, in Arizona with the AV business, in Asia, with some of the work we do there.
Phil Fracassa: But moving forward, again, we do see a path for continued growth in Complete Vehicles, whether it is in Graz, in Arizona with the AV business, in Asia with some of the work we do there, and then again with new programs coming in on value add, coupled with operational excellence and continuing to try to get better economics on programs that we launch. We do continue to see, I would say, upside on the margin in Complete Vehicles from here.
Phil Fracassa: But moving forward, again, we do see a path for continued growth in Complete Vehicles, whether it is in Graz, in Arizona with the AV business, in Asia with some of the work we do there, and then again with new programs coming in on value add, coupled with operational excellence and continuing to try to get better economics on programs that we launch. We do continue to see, I would say, upside on the margin in Complete Vehicles from here.
Speaker #3: And then again, with new programs coming in on value-add, coupled with operational excellence and continuing to try to get better economics on programs that we launch, we do continue to see I would say upside on the margin in complete vehicles from here.
Mark Delaney: Yeah, helpful color, Phil. Thanks for that. My other question was on the BES business, and so you already mentioned the role Magna can play with castings and bringing innovative ideas there to OEMs. Could you also clarify whether you are seeing any change in how much stamping business may be available and how Magna can bring value to OEMs? One of the large European OEMs did speak about doing more in-house stampings on their earnings call this week. Thanks.
Mark Delaney: Yeah, helpful color, Phil. Thanks for that. My other question was on the BES business, and so you already mentioned the role Magna can play with castings and bringing innovative ideas there to OEMs. Could you also clarify whether you are seeing any change in how much stamping business may be available and how Magna can bring value to OEMs? One of the large European OEMs did speak about doing more in-house stampings on their earnings call this week. Thanks.
Speaker #5: Yeah, helpful comment, Phil. Thanks for that. My other question was on the BES business. And you already mentioned the role Magna can play with castings and bringing innovative ideas there to OEMs.
Speaker #5: Could you also clarify whether you're seeing any change in how much stamping business may be available and how Magna can bring value to OEMs?
Speaker #5: One of the large European OEMs to speak about doing more in-house stampings on their earnings call this week. Thanks.
Swamy Kotagiri: Good morning, Mark. To be short and simple, we are not seeing anything significant. I think it is one of our core groups, longstanding, and we continue to have discussions and inquiries from customers. I would say if there is a big program or if there is any consolidation, if there is any issues, we typically see customers reach out to us. I would say we definitely have a seat at the table, and we haven't seen any negative impact on the type of insourcing. If anything, we are one of the, if not the only one, that can do some of the things that OEMs do, and they depend and ask us to be partners with them. I am pretty comfortable and optimistic about continuing that.
Swamy Kotagiri: Good morning, Mark. To be short and simple, we are not seeing anything significant. I think it is one of our core groups, longstanding, and we continue to have discussions and inquiries from customers. I would say if there is a big program or if there is any consolidation, if there is any issues, we typically see customers reach out to us. I would say we definitely have a seat at the table, and we haven't seen any negative impact on the type of insourcing. If anything, we are one of the, if not the only one, that can do some of the things that OEMs do, and they depend and ask us to be partners with them. I am pretty comfortable and optimistic about continuing that.
Speaker #2: Good morning, Mark. To be short and simple, we're not seeing anything significant. I think it's one of our core groups longstanding. And we continue to have discussions and inquiries from customers.
Speaker #2: I would say if there is a big program or if there is any consolidation, if there is any issues, we typically see customers reach out to us.
Speaker #2: So I would say we definitely have a seat at the table. And we haven't seen call it any negative impact on the type of insourcing that if anything, we are one of the, if not the only one, that can do some of the things that OEMs do and that depend and ask us to be partners with them.
Speaker #2: So I'm pretty comfortable and optimistic about continuing that.
Mark Delaney: Thank you.
Mark Delaney: Thank you.
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Operator: At this time, there are no further questions. I would like to turn the call back to Louis Tonelli for closing remarks.
Operator: At this time, there are no further questions. I would like to turn the call back to Louis Tonelli for closing remarks.
Speaker #1: At this time, there are no further questions. I would like to turn the call back to Lewis Tinelli for closing remarks.
Louis Tonelli: Okay, thanks everyone for listening today. If you have any follow-up questions, please do not hesitate to reach out to me. Thank you for your interest in Magna, and have a great day.
Louis Tonelli: Okay, thanks everyone for listening today. If you have any follow-up questions, please do not hesitate to reach out to me. Thank you for your interest in Magna, and have a great day.
Speaker #3: Okay. Thanks, everyone for listening today. If you have any follow-up questions, please don't hesitate to reach out to me. Thank you if you're interested in Magna and have a great day.
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