Q1 2026 Granite Real Estate Investment Trust Earnings Call
Operator 3: Q3 2026 results conference call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. I will now hand the conference over to Teresa Neto, Chief Financial Officer. Teresa, please go ahead.
Operator: Q3 2026 Results Conference Call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. I will now hand the conference over to Teresa Neto, Chief Financial Officer. Teresa, please go ahead.
Speaker #1: To withdraw your question, press star one again. I will now hand the conference over to Teresa Neto, Chief Financial Officer. Teresa, please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Before we begin today's call, I would like to remind you that statements and information made in today's discussion may constitute forward-looking information and that actual results could differ materially from any conclusion forecast or projection.
Teresa Neto: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Before we begin today's call, I would like to remind you that statements and information made in today's discussion may constitute forward-looking information and that actual results could differ materially from any conclusions, forecasts, or projections. These statements and information are based on certain material factors or assumptions, reflect management's current expectations, and are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from forward-looking information.
Teresa Neto: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Before we begin today's call, I would like to remind you that statements and information made in today's discussion may constitute forward-looking information and that actual results could differ materially from any conclusions, forecasts, or projections. These statements and information are based on certain material factors or assumptions, reflect management's current expectations, and are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from forward-looking information.
Speaker #2: These statements and information are based on certain material factors or assumptions, reflect management's current expectations, and are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from forward-looking information.
Speaker #2: These risks and uncertainties and material factors and assumptions applied in making forward-looking information are discussed in GRANITE's material filed with the Canadian Securities Administrators from time to time, including the risk factors section of its annual information form for 2025 and GRANITE's management discussion and analysis for the year ended December 31st, 2025, filed on February 25th, 2026, and for the quarter ended March 31, 2026, filed on May 6th, 2026.
Teresa Neto: These risks and uncertainties and material factors and assumptions applied in making forward-looking information are discussed in Granite's material filed with the Canadian Securities Administrators from time to time, including the Risk Factors section of its annual information form for 2025 and Granite's management discussion and analysis for the year ended 31 December 2025, filed on 25 February 2026, and for the quarter ended 31 March 2026, filed on 6 May 2026. As usual, I'll commence the call with financial highlights and followed by Kevin with operational and strategy update. Granite delivered Q1 2026 results in line with management's annual forecast and guidance, driven primarily by strong NOI growth, partially offset by unfavorable foreign exchange.
Teresa Neto: These risks and uncertainties and material factors and assumptions applied in making forward-looking information are discussed in Granite's material filed with the Canadian Securities Administrators from time to time, including the Risk Factors section of its annual information form for 2025 and Granite's management discussion and analysis for the year ended 31 December 2025, filed on 25 February 2026, and for the quarter ended 31 March 2026, filed on 6 May 2026. As usual, I'll commence the call with financial highlights and followed by Kevin with operational and strategy update. Granite delivered Q1 2026 results in line with management's annual forecast and guidance, driven primarily by strong NOI growth, partially offset by unfavorable foreign exchange.
Speaker #2: As usual, I'll commence the call with financial highlights and followed by Kevin with operational and strategy update. GRANITE delivered Q1 2026 results in line with management's annual forecast and guidance, driven primarily by strong NOI growth, partially offset by unfavorable foreign exchange.
Speaker #2: Starting with FFO performance, FFO per unit in Q1 was $1.57, down 2 cents sequentially, and up 11 cents or 7.5% compared to the same quarter last year.
Teresa Neto: Starting with FFO performance, FFO per unit in Q1 was CAD 1.57, down CAD 0.02 sequentially and up CAD 0.11 or 7.5% compared to the same quarter last year. In Q4 2025, FFO included a favorable non-recurring reversal of tax provisions of CAD 1.6 million. Excluding this item, FFO per unit would have been CAD 1.56, resulting in Q1 2026 FFO per unit being CAD 0.01 higher on a normalized sequential basis. NOI growth in Q1 was primarily driven by strong same property performance, supported by leasing spreads of 23% and the lease-up of previously completed development vacancies in the US, partially offset by unfavorable foreign exchange as the US dollar and euro weakened by 1.6% and 1.1%, respectively.
Teresa Neto: Starting with FFO performance, FFO per unit in Q1 was CAD 1.57, down CAD 0.02 sequentially and up CAD 0.11 or 7.5% compared to the same quarter last year. In Q4 2025, FFO included a favorable non-recurring reversal of tax provisions of CAD 1.6 million. Excluding this item, FFO per unit would have been CAD 1.56, resulting in Q1 2026 FFO per unit being CAD 0.01 higher on a normalized sequential basis. NOI growth in Q1 was primarily driven by strong same property performance, supported by leasing spreads of 23% and the lease-up of previously completed development vacancies in the US, partially offset by unfavorable foreign exchange as the US dollar and euro weakened by 1.6% and 1.1%, respectively.
Speaker #2: In Q4 2025, FFO included a favorable non-recurring reversal of tax provisions of 1.6 million, excluding this item, FFO per unit would have been $1.56, resulting in Q1 26 FFO per unit being 1 cent higher on a normalized sequential basis.
Speaker #2: NOI growth in the first quarter was primarily driven by strong same property performance, supported by leasing spreads of 23% and the lease-up of previously completed development vacancies in the United States.
Speaker #2: Partially offset by unfavorable foreign exchange as the US dollar and euro weakened by 1.6% and 1.1% respectively. FFO per unit in Q1 26 was $1.41, up cents 11 cents sequentially, and flat year over year and with the increase from Q4 primarily driven by lower maintenance capital expenditures, leasing costs, and tenant allowances incurred, partially offset by lower FFO per unit.
Teresa Neto: AFFO per unit in Q1 2026 was CAD 1.41, up CAD 0.11 sequentially and flat year-over-year. With the increase from Q4 primarily driven by lower maintenance, capital expenditures, leasing costs, and tenant allowances incurred, partially offset by lower FFO per unit. AFFO-related capital expenditures incurred in the quarter totaled CAD 6.9 million, which is a decrease of CAD 8 million over Q4 and an increase of CAD 6.2 million over the same quarter last year. For 2026, we continue to expect AFFO-related capital expenditures to come in at approximately CAD 40 million. That is unchanged from our estimate provided previously. Before going over some further details of Q1, I do want to advise that Granite will be recognizing eight income statement items of a non-recurring nature in Q2 that will impact FFO and AFFO.
Teresa Neto: AFFO per unit in Q1 2026 was CAD 1.41, up CAD 0.11 sequentially and flat year-over-year. With the increase from Q4 primarily driven by lower maintenance, capital expenditures, leasing costs, and tenant allowances incurred, partially offset by lower FFO per unit. AFFO-related capital expenditures incurred in the quarter totaled CAD 6.9 million, which is a decrease of CAD 8 million over Q4 and an increase of CAD 6.2 million over the same quarter last year. For 2026, we continue to expect AFFO-related capital expenditures to come in at approximately CAD 40 million. That is unchanged from our estimate provided previously. Before going over some further details of Q1, I do want to advise that Granite will be recognizing eight income statement items of a non-recurring nature in Q2 that will impact FFO and AFFO.
Speaker #2: FFO-related capital expenditures incurred in the quarter totaled $6.9 million, which is a decrease of 8 million over Q4 and an increase of 6.2 million over the same quarter last year.
Speaker #2: For 2026, we continue to expect FFO-related capital expenditures to come in at approximately $40 million, and that is unchanged from our estimate provided previously.
Speaker #2: Before going over some further details of the first quarter, I do want to advise that GRANITE will be recognizing two income statement items of a non-recurring nature in the second quarter that will impact FFO and AFFO.
Speaker #2: GRANITE will be recognizing approximately $1.3 million in termination and close-out fee revenue, relating to the termination of a MagnaLease at one of GRANITE's bond properties in April.
Teresa Neto: Granite will be recognizing approximately CAD 1.3 million in termination and closeout fee revenue relating to the termination of a Magna lease at one of Granite's Bond properties in April. More than offsetting this amount will be a CAD 2.4 million provision relating to a 5-year HST audit at Granite's operating subsidiary, where the CRA has assessed Granite with denied input tax credits, interest, and penalties that will impact G&A and interest expenses by approximately CAD 1.6 million and CAD 0.8 million, respectively. Although Granite fully intends to file notices of objection with the CRA and to dispute the CRA's assessments, Granite deemed it prudent to recognize such provision at this time. The net negative impact of these two non-recurring items will be -CAD 1.1 million or approximately CAD 0.02 to FFO and AFFO per unit for the quarter.
Teresa Neto: Granite will be recognizing approximately CAD 1.3 million in termination and closeout fee revenue relating to the termination of a Magna lease at one of Granite's Bond properties in April. More than offsetting this amount will be a CAD 2.4 million provision relating to a 5-year HST audit at Granite's operating subsidiary, where the CRA has assessed Granite with denied input tax credits, interest, and penalties that will impact G&A and interest expenses by approximately CAD 1.6 million and CAD 0.8 million, respectively. Although Granite fully intends to file notices of objection with the CRA and to dispute the CRA's assessments, Granite deemed it prudent to recognize such provision at this time. The net negative impact of these two non-recurring items will be -CAD 1.1 million or approximately CAD 0.02 to FFO and AFFO per unit for the quarter.
Speaker #2: More than offsetting this amount will be a $2.4 million provision relating to a five-year HST audit at Granite's operating subsidiary, where the CRA has assessed Granite with denied input tax credits, interest, and penalties that will impact G&A and interest expenses by approximately $1.6 million and $0.8 million, respectively.
Speaker #2: Although GRANITE fully intends to file notices of objection with the CRA and to dispute the CRA's assessments, GRANITE deemed it prudent to recognize such provision at this time.
Speaker #2: The net negative impact of these two non-recurring items will be minus 1.1 million or approximately 2 cents to FFO and AFFO per unit for the quarter.
Speaker #2: Going back to the first quarter, same property NOI delivered strong growth, increasing 8.3% on a constant currency basis and up 8%, including the impact of foreign exchange.
Teresa Neto: Going back to Q1, same property NOI delivered strong growth, increasing 8.3% on a constant currency basis and up 8% including the impact of foreign exchange. The continued momentum in SPNOI growth is a reflection of the successful execution on leasing, achievement on leasing spreads, and the 270 basis point improvement in occupancy year over year. For 2026, continued strong organic growth from our same property portfolio and has maintained an unchanged outlook for the 4 quarter average constant currency same property NOI growth to a range of 5.5% to 6.5%. G&A for the quarter was CAD 11.7 million, which was CAD 3.2 million higher than the same quarter last year and CAD 1.6 million lower than Q4.
Teresa Neto: Going back to Q1, same property NOI delivered strong growth, increasing 8.3% on a constant currency basis and up 8% including the impact of foreign exchange. The continued momentum in SPNOI growth is a reflection of the successful execution on leasing, achievement on leasing spreads, and the 270 basis point improvement in occupancy year over year. For 2026, continued strong organic growth from our same property portfolio and has maintained an unchanged outlook for the 4 quarter average constant currency same property NOI growth to a range of 5.5% to 6.5%. G&A for the quarter was CAD 11.7 million, which was CAD 3.2 million higher than the same quarter last year and CAD 1.6 million lower than Q4.
Speaker #2: The continued momentum in SP NOI growth is a reflection of the successful execution on leasing, achievement on leasing spreads, and the 270 basis point improvement in occupancy year over year.
Speaker #2: For 2026, continued strong organic growth from our same property portfolio and is maintained and unchanged outlook for the four-quarter average constant currency same property NOI growth to a range of 5.5 to 6.5%.
Speaker #2: G&A for the quarter was $11.7 million, which was $3.2 million higher than the same quarter last year and $1.6 million lower than Q4. The sequential decrease was primarily driven by a $2.1 million lower fair value adjustment on non-cash compensation liabilities, which does not impact GRANITE's FFO and AFFO metrics.
Teresa Neto: The sequential decrease was primarily driven by CAD 2.1 million lower fair value adjustment on non-cash compensation liabilities, which does not impact Granite's FFO and AFFO metrics. The remainder of variance reflects normal quarterly fluctuations around other G&A expense categories. For 2026, we continue to expect G&A expenses that impact FFO and AFFO specifically to average approximately CAD 11.5 million per quarter or roughly 7% of revenues. For Q2 2026, all else remaining equal, G&A will be elevated due to the incremental HST expense provision of CAD 1.6 million discussed earlier and to be recognized in that quarter.
Teresa Neto: The sequential decrease was primarily driven by CAD 2.1 million lower fair value adjustment on non-cash compensation liabilities, which does not impact Granite's FFO and AFFO metrics. The remainder of variance reflects normal quarterly fluctuations around other G&A expense categories. For 2026, we continue to expect G&A expenses that impact FFO and AFFO specifically to average approximately CAD 11.5 million per quarter or roughly 7% of revenues. For Q2 2026, all else remaining equal, G&A will be elevated due to the incremental HST expense provision of CAD 1.6 million discussed earlier and to be recognized in that quarter.
Speaker #2: The remainder of the variance reflects normal quarterly fluctuations around other G&A expense categories. For 2026, we continue to expect G&A that expenses that impact FFO and AFFO specifically to average approximately 11.5 million per quarter, or roughly 7% of revenues.
Speaker #2: For Q2 2026, all else remaining equal, G&A will be elevated due to the incremental HST expense provision of $1.6 million discussed earlier, and to be recognized in that quarter.
Speaker #2: Interest expense decreased modestly in the first quarter, down 0.2 million compared to Q4, while interest income remained flat, primarily driven by full repayment of our September 26th term loan in February and the impact of a weaker US dollar and euro on GRANITE's foreign-denominated debt.
Teresa Neto: Interest expense decreased modestly in Q1, down CAD 0.2 million compared to Q4, while interest income remained flat, primarily driven by full repayment of our 26 September term loan in February and the impact of a weaker US dollar and euro on Granite's foreign-denominated debt. Partially offset by a higher average balance outstanding on the credit facility throughout the quarter due to the interim funding of acquisitions in December in advance of the disposition in the United States that closed in March 2026. Granite's weighted average cost of debt is currently 2.63%, and the weighted average debt term of maturity is 3.2 years.
Teresa Neto: Interest expense decreased modestly in Q1, down CAD 0.2 million compared to Q4, while interest income remained flat, primarily driven by full repayment of our 26 September term loan in February and the impact of a weaker US dollar and euro on Granite's foreign-denominated debt. Partially offset by a higher average balance outstanding on the credit facility throughout the quarter due to the interim funding of acquisitions in December in advance of the disposition in the United States that closed in March 2026. Granite's weighted average cost of debt is currently 2.63%, and the weighted average debt term of maturity is 3.2 years.
Speaker #2: Partially offset by a higher average balance outstanding on the credit facility throughout the quarter due to the interim funding of acquisitions in December, in advance of the disposition in the United States that closed in March of '26.
Speaker #2: GRANITE's weighted average cost of debt is currently 2.63%, and the weighted average debt term of maturity is 3.2 years. With GRANITE's next debt maturity not until December '26, we continue to expect interest expense to remain stable and declining over the next couple of quarters, to around 23.5 million per quarter, assuming no additional transactions.
Teresa Neto: With Granite's next debt maturity not until December 2026, we continue to expect interest expense to remain stable and declining over the next couple of quarters to around CAD 23.5 million per quarter, assuming no additional transactions. For Q2, as mentioned earlier, interest expense will be impacted by this non-recurring CAD 0.8 million provision for the HST audit-assessed interest and penalties. Q1 2026 current income tax was CAD 3.1 million, up CAD 0.6 million year-over-year and CAD 1.7 million from Q4. The sequential increase primarily reflects the CAD 1.6 million tax provision reversal recorded in Q4 2025. The year-over-year increase is primarily due to the release of a withholding tax reserve in the prior year of CAD 0.2 million, an increase in rental revenues in Europe, and the impact of a stronger euro on Granite's primarily euro-denominated tax expenses.
Teresa Neto: With Granite's next debt maturity not until December 2026, we continue to expect interest expense to remain stable and declining over the next couple of quarters to around CAD 23.5 million per quarter, assuming no additional transactions. For Q2, as mentioned earlier, interest expense will be impacted by this non-recurring CAD 0.8 million provision for the HST audit-assessed interest and penalties. Q1 2026 current income tax was CAD 3.1 million, up CAD 0.6 million year-over-year and CAD 1.7 million from Q4. The sequential increase primarily reflects the CAD 1.6 million tax provision reversal recorded in Q4 2025. The year-over-year increase is primarily due to the release of a withholding tax reserve in the prior year of CAD 0.2 million, an increase in rental revenues in Europe, and the impact of a stronger euro on Granite's primarily euro-denominated tax expenses.
Speaker #2: For Q2, as mentioned earlier, interest expense will be impacted by this non-recurring 0.8 million provision for the HST audit assessed interest and penalties. Q1 26 current income tax was 3.1 million, up 0.6 million year over year, and 1.7 million from Q4.
Speaker #2: The sequential increase primarily reflects the $1.6 million tax provision reversal recorded in Q4 '25. The year-over-year increase is primarily due to the release of a withholding tax reserve in the prior year of $0.2 million, an increase in rental revenues in Europe, and the impact of a stronger euro on Granite's primarily euro-denominated tax expenses.
Speaker #2: For 2026, we continue to expect current income tax expense to remain at approximately 3.1 to 3.2 million per quarter. Looking out to our estimates, GRANITE is keeping its guidance unchanged.
Teresa Neto: For 2026, we continue to expect current income tax expense to remain at approximately CAD 3.1 to 3.2 million per quarter. Looking out to our estimates, Granite is keeping its guidance unchanged. Our current outlook reflects no material changes in assumptions related to leasing activity, operations, asset dispositions and acquisitions, capital expenditures, or financing plans. We continue to forecast FFO per unit in the range of CAD 6.25 to 6.40, approximately 6% to 8% growth over 2025. For FFO per unit, we expect a range of CAD 5.40 to 5.55, reflecting growth of 4% to 7% year over year. The FFO outlook assumes the disposition of assets currently held for sale, totaling approximately CAD 57.7 million, is fully completed by early Q4 and does not assume any unidentified acquisitions.
Teresa Neto: For 2026, we continue to expect current income tax expense to remain at approximately CAD 3.1 to 3.2 million per quarter. Looking out to our estimates, Granite is keeping its guidance unchanged. Our current outlook reflects no material changes in assumptions related to leasing activity, operations, asset dispositions and acquisitions, capital expenditures, or financing plans. We continue to forecast FFO per unit in the range of CAD 6.25 to 6.40, approximately 6% to 8% growth over 2025. For FFO per unit, we expect a range of CAD 5.40 to 5.55, reflecting growth of 4% to 7% year over year. The FFO outlook assumes the disposition of assets currently held for sale, totaling approximately CAD 57.7 million, is fully completed by early Q4 and does not assume any unidentified acquisitions.
Speaker #2: Our current outlook reflects no material changes in assumptions related to leasing activity, operations, asset dispositions, and acquisitions, capital expenditures, or financing plans. We continue to forecast FFO per unit in the range of 625 to 640, FFO 6 to 8% growth over '25.
Speaker #2: For FFO per unit, we expect a range of 540 to 555, reflecting growth of 4 to 7% year over year. The FFO outlook assumes the disposition of assets currently helper sales, totaling approximately 57.7 million, is fully completed by early Q4 and does not assume any unidentified acquisitions.
Speaker #2: AFFO-related capital expenditures, as discussed earlier, are expected to remain around $50 million for the year, compared to $34 million in '25. And our guidance range on FX remains unchanged at 134 to 140 for the US dollar, 158 to 162 for the euro, and 180 to 186 for the British pound.
Teresa Neto: AFFO-related capital expenditures, as discussed earlier, are expected to remain around CAD 50 million for the year, compared to CAD 34 million incurred in 2025. Our guidance range on FX remains unchanged at $1.34 to 1.40 for the US dollar, EUR 1.58 to 1.62 for the euro, and GBP 1.80 to 1.86 for the British pound. As usual, we will continue to provide updates on guidance each quarter as appropriate. Granite's balance sheet remains strong, and its debt metrics have shown notable strength from last quarter. Investment properties totaled CAD nine and a half billion at the end of the quarter, broadly unchanged from the prior quarter, and excludes the approximately CAD 58 million related to two assets held for sale.
Teresa Neto: AFFO-related capital expenditures, as discussed earlier, are expected to remain around CAD 50 million for the year, compared to CAD 34 million incurred in 2025. Our guidance range on FX remains unchanged at $1.34 to 1.40 for the US dollar, EUR 1.58 to 1.62 for the euro, and GBP 1.80 to 1.86 for the British pound. As usual, we will continue to provide updates on guidance each quarter as appropriate. Granite's balance sheet remains strong, and its debt metrics have shown notable strength from last quarter. Investment properties totaled CAD nine and a half billion at the end of the quarter, broadly unchanged from the prior quarter, and excludes the approximately CAD 58 million related to two assets held for sale.
Speaker #2: As usual, we will continue to provide updates on guidance each quarter as appropriate. GRANITE's balance sheet remains strong, and its debt metrics have shown notable strength from last quarter.
Speaker #2: Investment properties totaled 9.5 billion at the end of the quarter, broadly unchanged from the prior quarter. And excludes the approximate 58 million related to two assets helper sales.
Speaker #2: During the quarter, movements in investment properties reflected disposition of an income-inducing property in Palmetto, Georgia. In the United States, for about 105 million. And the classification of an asset helper sale in Canada for 16 million, partially offset by foreign exchange gains of 81 million, driven primarily by the strengthening of the US dollar against the Canadian dollar over the period.
Teresa Neto: During the quarter, movements in investment properties reflected disposition of an income-producing property in Palmetto, Georgia, in the United States for about $105 million, and the classification of an asset held for sale in Canada for CAD 16 million, partially offset by foreign exchange gains of CAD 81 million, driven primarily by the strengthening of the US dollar against the Canadian dollar over the period. Additional movements included development spend primarily on our Houston construction site, maintenance capital projects and leasing activity related costs, and net fair value gains driven by higher market rents, partially offset by discount and cap rate expansions at select US properties. Our overall weighted average cap rate of 5.6% on in-place NOI remains stable relative to Q4 and has increased 23 basis points since the same quarter last year.
Teresa Neto: During the quarter, movements in investment properties reflected disposition of an income-producing property in Palmetto, Georgia, in the United States for about $105 million, and the classification of an asset held for sale in Canada for CAD 16 million, partially offset by foreign exchange gains of CAD 81 million, driven primarily by the strengthening of the US dollar against the Canadian dollar over the period. Additional movements included development spend primarily on our Houston construction site, maintenance capital projects and leasing activity related costs, and net fair value gains driven by higher market rents, partially offset by discount and cap rate expansions at select US properties. Our overall weighted average cap rate of 5.6% on in-place NOI remains stable relative to Q4 and has increased 23 basis points since the same quarter last year.
Speaker #2: Additional movements included development spend, primarily on our Houston construction site, maintenance capital projects, and leasing activity-related costs, and net fair value gains driven by higher market rents, partially offset by discount and cap rate expansions at select US properties.
Speaker #2: Our overall weighted average cap rate of 5.6% on in place NOI remains stable relative to Q4 and has increased 23 basis points since the same quarter last year.
Speaker #2: Our net leverage ratio at the end of the quarter was 33%, which is an improvement from 35% at Q4. Debt to EBITDA was 6.8 times, also improved from 7.3 in Q4 and 7.1 times in Q1 '25.
Teresa Neto: Now our net leverage ratio at the end of the quarter was 33%, which is an improvement from 35% at Q4. Debt to EBITDA was 6.8x, also improved from 7.3 in Q4 and 7.1x in Q1 2025, primarily due to lower unsecured debt following the full repayment of our September 2026 term loan and lower outstanding balance on the credit facility due to the net proceeds from the completion of the disposition of two income-producing properties in the Netherlands and United States during the quarter. All ratios remain relatively favorable and provide financial flexibility for our future growth.
Teresa Neto: Now our net leverage ratio at the end of the quarter was 33%, which is an improvement from 35% at Q4. Debt to EBITDA was 6.8x, also improved from 7.3 in Q4 and 7.1x in Q1 2025, primarily due to lower unsecured debt following the full repayment of our September 2026 term loan and lower outstanding balance on the credit facility due to the net proceeds from the completion of the disposition of two income-producing properties in the Netherlands and United States during the quarter. All ratios remain relatively favorable and provide financial flexibility for our future growth.
Speaker #2: Primarily due to lower unsecured debt following the full repayment of our September 26th term loan, and a lower outstanding balance on the credit facility as a result of the net proceeds from the completion of the disposition of two income-inducing properties in the Netherlands and the United States during the quarter.
Speaker #2: All ratios remain relatively favorable and provide financial flexibility for our future growth. As a result of GRANITE's continued commitment to maintaining its strong balance sheet, its stable and strong operating performance, and its improved asset quality, as evidenced by its recent improvement in occupancy, Morningstar DBRS recently has taken rating action on GRANITE.
Teresa Neto: As a result of Granite's continued commitment to maintaining its strong balance sheet, its stable and strong operating performance, and its improved asset quality, as evidenced by its recent improvement in occupancy, Morningstar DBRS recently has taken rating action on Granite. On 24 March, Morningstar DBRS confirmed Granite REIT Holdings LP's issuer rating and debenture rating at triple B high and changed the trends to positive from stable. Finally, on 25 February, Granite reestablished its at-the-market equity program through the filing of a prospectus supplement to our base shelf prospectus. The program allows Granite the issuance of up to 250 million units from treasury to the public from time to time at Granite's discretion at prevailing market prices.
Teresa Neto: As a result of Granite's continued commitment to maintaining its strong balance sheet, its stable and strong operating performance, and its improved asset quality, as evidenced by its recent improvement in occupancy, Morningstar DBRS recently has taken rating action on Granite. On 24 March, Morningstar DBRS confirmed Granite REIT Holdings LP's issuer rating and debenture rating at triple B high and changed the trends to positive from stable. Finally, on 25 February, Granite reestablished its at-the-market equity program through the filing of a prospectus supplement to our base shelf prospectus. The program allows Granite the issuance of up to 250 million units from treasury to the public from time to time at Granite's discretion at prevailing market prices.
Speaker #2: On March 24, Morningstar DBRS confirmed GRANITE read holding LP's issuer rating and debenture rating at BBB high and changed the trends to positive from stable.
Speaker #2: And then finally, on February 25th, GRANITE reestablished its at-the-market equity program through the filing of a prospectus supplement to our base shelf prospectus. The program allows GRANITE the issuance of up to 250 million of units from Treasury to the public from time to time, at GRANITE's discretion, at prevailing market prices.
Speaker #2: And subsequent to the quarter, GRANITE issued 65,100 units under the program at an average price of $93.67. For gross proceeds of approximately $6.1 million, excluding issuance costs.
Teresa Neto: Subsequent to the quarter, Granite issued 65,100 units under the program at an average price of CAD 93.67 for gross proceeds of approximately CAD 6.1 million, excluding issuance costs. Granite's liquidity is currently approximately CAD 1 billion, representing cash on hand of about CAD 119 million, and the undrawn operating line of approximately CAD 892 million. As of today, Granite has CAD 105 million drawn on the credit facility and CAD 2.8 million in letters of credit outstanding. We expect to reduce the outstanding balance on the credit facility throughout 2026 with free cash flow from operations and with proceeds from the disposition of properties, barring any other major transactions. I'll now turn over the call to Kevin.
Teresa Neto: Subsequent to the quarter, Granite issued 65,100 units under the program at an average price of CAD 93.67 for gross proceeds of approximately CAD 6.1 million, excluding issuance costs. Granite's liquidity is currently approximately CAD 1 billion, representing cash on hand of about CAD 119 million, and the undrawn operating line of approximately CAD 892 million. As of today, Granite has CAD 105 million drawn on the credit facility and CAD 2.8 million in letters of credit outstanding. We expect to reduce the outstanding balance on the credit facility throughout 2026 with free cash flow from operations and with proceeds from the disposition of properties, barring any other major transactions. I'll now turn over the call to Kevin.
Speaker #2: GRANITE's liquidity is currently approximately $1 billion, representing cash on hand of about $119 million, and the undrawn operating line of approximately $892 million. As of today, GRANITE has 105 million drawn on the credit facility and 2.8 million in letters of credit outstanding.
Speaker #2: We expect to reduce the outstanding balance on the credit facility throughout '26 without with free cash flow from operations and with proceeds from the disposition of properties barring any other major transactions.
Speaker #2: I'll now turn over the call to Kevin. Thanks, Teresa. Q3 results as Teresa mentioned were in line with management's expectations. Higher NOI and acquisitions and stronger same property NOI was partially offset by a number of minor one-time items and unfavorable FX movement from the fourth quarter.
Kevan Gorrie: Thanks, Teresa. Q3 results, as Teresa mentioned, were in line with management's expectations. Higher NOI and acquisitions and stronger same property NOI was partially offset by a number of minor one-time items and unfavorable FX movement from the Q4. FFO per unit year-over-year growth in the quarter, as reported, was 7.5%. That translates to almost 9% on a constant currency basis. To begin, the team renewed 730,000 sq ft of leases in the quarter, a portion of which is related to expiries later in the year, with a weighted average increase of 48%, and closed on a new lease as disclosed, totaling 250,000 sq ft in Ohio. Subsequent to the quarter end, the team also executed on a 225,000 sq ft lease at the same property.
Kevan Gorrie: Thanks, Teresa. Q3 results, as Teresa mentioned, were in line with management's expectations. Higher NOI and acquisitions and stronger same property NOI was partially offset by a number of minor one-time items and unfavorable FX movement from the Q4. FFO per unit year-over-year growth in the quarter, as reported, was 7.5%. That translates to almost 9% on a constant currency basis. To begin, the team renewed 730,000 sq ft of leases in the quarter, a portion of which is related to expiries later in the year, with a weighted average increase of 48%, and closed on a new lease as disclosed, totaling 250,000 sq ft in Ohio. Subsequent to the quarter end, the team also executed on a 225,000 sq ft lease at the same property.
Speaker #2: FFO per unit year over year growth in the quarter as reported was 7.5%, but translates to almost 9% on a constant currency basis. To begin, the team renewed 730,000 square feet of leases in the quarter.
Speaker #2: A portion of which is related to expiries later in the year, with a weighted average increase of 48%. And closed on a new lease as disclosed, totaling 250,000 square feet in Ohio.
Speaker #2: Subsequent to the quarter, quarter-end, the team also executed on a 225,000 square foot lease at the same property. Accounting for the new commitments and a new 200,000 square foot vacancy in Vaughan as at April 30th, our committed occupancy currently sits at slightly under 98%, still among if not the highest in the sector.
Kevan Gorrie: Accounting for the new commitments and a new 200,000 sq ft vacancy in Vaughan as at 30 April, our committed occupancy currently sits at slightly under 98%, still among, if not the highest in the sector. To date, we have so far renewed roughly 65% of our 2026 expiries by GLA at an average increase of 21%, and we expect to achieve an average increase of between 20% and 25% on our overall expiries for the year, which is in line with our average increase for 2024. Same Property NOI in the quarter was led by the GTA and US portfolios at 22% and 8.8% respectively, offset by muted growth from our European portfolio, particularly in Germany and Austria, at -1% and 1% respectively.
Kevan Gorrie: Accounting for the new commitments and a new 200,000 sq ft vacancy in Vaughan as at 30 April, our committed occupancy currently sits at slightly under 98%, still among, if not the highest in the sector. To date, we have so far renewed roughly 65% of our 2026 expiries by GLA at an average increase of 21%, and we expect to achieve an average increase of between 20% and 25% on our overall expiries for the year, which is in line with our average increase for 2024. Same Property NOI in the quarter was led by the GTA and US portfolios at 22% and 8.8% respectively, offset by muted growth from our European portfolio, particularly in Germany and Austria, at -1% and 1% respectively.
Speaker #2: To date, we have so far renewed roughly 65% of our 2026 expiries by GLA, at an average increase of 21%. And we expect to achieve an average increase of between 20 and 25 percent on our overall expiries for the year.
Speaker #2: Which is in line with our average increase for 2024. Same property NOI in the quarter was led by the GTA and US portfolios. At 22% and 8.8% respectively, offset by muted growth from our European portfolio, particularly in Germany and Austria, and negative 1 and 1% respectively.
Speaker #2: Staying on leasing, a few comments regarding relevant market data. Leasing momentum continues to grow across the bulk of the sector, with vacancy stabilizing or declining in 13 of our 15 markets in North America, the strongest improvement in three years.
Kevan Gorrie: Staying on leasing, a few comments regarding relevant market data. Leasing momentum continues to grow across the bulk of the sector, with vacancy stabilizing or declining in 13 of our 15 markets in North America, the strongest improvement in 3 years, led by declines in Savannah, Memphis, Indianapolis, and Cincinnati. Our portfolio markets once again represented the top 3 markets and 8 of the top 10 markets in the US for net absorption, and notably represented a staggering 75% of the total net absorption nationally. Also of note is the bottom 5 markets for net absorption in the quarter were all located in California. Asking rents once again rose year over year across the majority of our markets, led by Columbus, Louisville, and Indianapolis, ranging from 6% to 12%. Our weakest market once again was the GTA and the UK, with asking rents down just under 5%.
Kevan Gorrie: Staying on leasing, a few comments regarding relevant market data. Leasing momentum continues to grow across the bulk of the sector, with vacancy stabilizing or declining in 13 of our 15 markets in North America, the strongest improvement in 3 years, led by declines in Savannah, Memphis, Indianapolis, and Cincinnati. Our portfolio markets once again represented the top 3 markets and 8 of the top 10 markets in the US for net absorption, and notably represented a staggering 75% of the total net absorption nationally. Also of note is the bottom 5 markets for net absorption in the quarter were all located in California. Asking rents once again rose year over year across the majority of our markets, led by Columbus, Louisville, and Indianapolis, ranging from 6% to 12%. Our weakest market once again was the GTA and the UK, with asking rents down just under 5%.
Speaker #2: Led by declines in Savannah, Memphis, Indianapolis, and Cincinnati. Our portfolio markets once again represented the top three markets and eight of the top 10 markets in the US for net absorption, and notably represented a staggering 75% of the total net absorption nationally.
Speaker #2: Also of note is the bottom five markets, for net absorption in the quarter were all located in California. Asking rents once again rose year over year across the majority of our markets, led by Columbus, Louisville, and Indianapolis, ranging from 6 to 12 percent.
Speaker #2: Our weakest market once again was the GTA and the UK, with asking rents down just under 5%. Market rank growth in the Netherlands was more or less flat year over year, and Germany posted a strong increase of just over 7%.
Kevan Gorrie: Market rent growth in the Netherlands was more or less flat year over year, and Germany posted a strong increase of just over 7%. Overall, the 5% average year over year increase in rates was the first increase nationally in the US since Q4 2024. In summary, I would characterize the tone in the leasing market as continuing to improve with an element of cost sensitivity, to be sure, and a clear bias in occupier demand for larger, modern, and well-located space. As we saw in H2 2025 and so far this year, the bulk, no pun intended, of the leasing activity throughout our portfolio has occurred in availabilities exceeding 300,000 square feet.
Kevan Gorrie: Market rent growth in the Netherlands was more or less flat year over year, and Germany posted a strong increase of just over 7%. Overall, the 5% average year over year increase in rates was the first increase nationally in the US since Q4 2024. In summary, I would characterize the tone in the leasing market as continuing to improve with an element of cost sensitivity, to be sure, and a clear bias in occupier demand for larger, modern, and well-located space. As we saw in H2 2025 and so far this year, the bulk, no pun intended, of the leasing activity throughout our portfolio has occurred in availabilities exceeding 300,000 square feet.
Speaker #2: Overall, the 5% average year over year increase in rate was the first increase nationally in the US since the fourth quarter of 2024. So in summary, I would characterize the tone in leasing market as continuing to improve, with an element of cost sensitivity to be sure, and a clear bias in occupier demand for larger modern and well-located space.
Speaker #2: As we saw in the second half of 2025 and so far this year, the bulk—no pun intended—of the leasing activity throughout our portfolio has occurred in availabilities exceeding 300,000 square feet.
Speaker #2: According to CBRE, leasing activity, comprised of renewals and new leases, increased by 14% year over year in the first quarter and is projected to reach a record level in 2026.
Kevan Gorrie: According to CBRE, leasing activity comprised of renewals and new leases increased by 14% year over year in Q1 and is projected to reach a record level in 2026, with leases over 700,000 feet increasing by almost 300% year over year, and conversely, leases below 700,000 sq ft increasing by just over 1%. Additionally, vacancy on newly constructed space decreased by almost 500 basis points year over year, while increasing roughly 70 basis points in older buildings. Demand for larger modern space is clearly driving the increase in leasing activity in the US and globally as occupiers are prioritizing properties that can accommodate higher levels of automation and power requirements.
Kevan Gorrie: According to CBRE, leasing activity comprised of renewals and new leases increased by 14% year over year in Q1 and is projected to reach a record level in 2026, with leases over 700,000 feet increasing by almost 300% year over year, and conversely, leases below 700,000 sq ft increasing by just over 1%. Additionally, vacancy on newly constructed space decreased by almost 500 basis points year over year, while increasing roughly 70 basis points in older buildings. Demand for larger modern space is clearly driving the increase in leasing activity in the US and globally as occupiers are prioritizing properties that can accommodate higher levels of automation and power requirements.
Speaker #2: Leases over 700,000 square feet increased by almost 300% year over year, while leases below 700,000 square feet increased by just over 1%. Additionally, vacancy on newly constructed space decreased by almost 500 basis points year over year, while increasing roughly 70 basis points in older buildings.
Speaker #2: So demand for larger modern space is clearly driving the increase in leasing activity, in the US and globally, as occupiers are prioritizing properties that can accommodate higher levels of automation and power requirements.
Speaker #2: To punctuate this dynamic with a Granite-specific data point, consider that at the end of the first quarter of 2025, we had five availabilities exceeding 250,000 square feet.
Kevan Gorrie: To punctuate this dynamic with a Granite specific data point, consider that at the end of Q1 2025, we had 5 availabilities exceeding 250,000 square feet, compared with 0 at the end of this quarter. As we sit today, we have 14 availabilities totaling 1.27 million square feet across our portfolio, ranging from 20,000 to 237,000 square feet for an average size of 90,000 square feet. While we are seeing strength and demand for larger bay space, activity has been slower in the small to mid day segment recently. I'll comment briefly on the changes to our IFRS values.
Kevan Gorrie: To punctuate this dynamic with a Granite specific data point, consider that at the end of Q1 2025, we had 5 availabilities exceeding 250,000 square feet, compared with 0 at the end of this quarter. As we sit today, we have 14 availabilities totaling 1.27 million square feet across our portfolio, ranging from 20,000 to 237,000 square feet for an average size of 90,000 square feet. While we are seeing strength and demand for larger bay space, activity has been slower in the small to mid day segment recently. I'll comment briefly on the changes to our IFRS values.
Speaker #2: Compared with zero at the end of this quarter. As we sit today, we have 14 availabilities totaling 1.27 million square feet across our portfolio, ranging from 20 to 237,000 square feet.
Speaker #2: For an average size of 90,000 square feet. So while we were seeing strength in demand for larger-based space, activity has been slower in small to mid-bay segments recently.
Speaker #2: I'll comment briefly on the changes to our IFRS values. As you can see, we recognize a modest gain in the quarter, primarily from increases in market rents in a few of our US markets, and a positive impact as Teresa mentioned of the favorable movement in the USD versus CAD at the end of the quarter, offset by the disposition of an asset in the US.
Kevan Gorrie: As you can see, we recognized a modest gain in the quarter, primarily from increases in market rent in a few of our US markets, and a positive impact, as Teresa mentioned, of the favorable movement in the USD versus CAD at the end of the quarter, offset by the disposition of an asset in the US. Although the asset was high quality and well located in one of our key markets, the growth profile was limited and we're able to repatriate capital and attractive yield for accretive re-redeployment. Moving on to strategy and capital allocation. As outlined in the MD&A, we currently have 2 assets totaling just under CAD 60 million in value listed as assets held for sale as of 31 March.
Kevan Gorrie: As you can see, we recognized a modest gain in the quarter, primarily from increases in market rent in a few of our US markets, and a positive impact, as Teresa mentioned, of the favorable movement in the USD versus CAD at the end of the quarter, offset by the disposition of an asset in the US. Although the asset was high quality and well located in one of our key markets, the growth profile was limited and we're able to repatriate capital and attractive yield for accretive re-redeployment. Moving on to strategy and capital allocation. As outlined in the MD&A, we currently have 2 assets totaling just under CAD 60 million in value listed as assets held for sale as of 31 March.
Speaker #2: Although the asset was high quality, and well-located in one of our key markets, the growth profile was limited, and we were able to repatriate capital in attractive yields for creative redeployment.
Speaker #2: Moving on to strategy and capital allocation, as outlined in the MD&A, we currently have two assets totaling just under 60 million, in value listed as assets held for sale, as at March 31st.
Speaker #2: We expect to close on both dispositions in the second or third quarter of this year, and we continue to identify target disposition assets to help fund our acquisition and rebalancing program.
Kevan Gorrie: We expect to close on both dispositions in the Q2 or Q3 of this year, and we continue to identify target disposition assets to help fund our acquisition and rebalancing program. Consistent with that approach, we are currently pursuing roughly CAD 125 million in new acquisitions in our target markets in the US and Europe. As an update on our development program, our build-to-suit project in Houston continues to progress on budget and schedule for completion at the end of the Q3.
Kevan Gorrie: We expect to close on both dispositions in the Q2 or Q3 of this year, and we continue to identify target disposition assets to help fund our acquisition and rebalancing program. Consistent with that approach, we are currently pursuing roughly CAD 125 million in new acquisitions in our target markets in the US and Europe. As an update on our development program, our build-to-suit project in Houston continues to progress on budget and schedule for completion at the end of the Q3.
Speaker #2: Consistent with that approach, we are currently pursuing roughly 125 million in new acquisitions in our target markets in the US and Europe. And as an update on our development program, our build-to-sue project in Houston continues to progress on budget and schedule, for completion at the end of the third quarter.
Speaker #2: As disclosed and as mentioned, we utilize our ATM program to a small degree since our last call, and we hope if the price is supportive, unit price is supportive, to utilize the ADM prudently to augment our disposition program and free cash flow as a source of capital for near-term accretive deployment on new build-to-sue developments and selective strategic acquisitions.
Kevan Gorrie: As disclosed and as mentioned, we utilized our ATM program to a small degree since our last call. We hope, if the price is supportive, unit price is supportive, to utilize the ATM prudently to augment our disposition program and free cash flow as a source of capital for near term accretive deployment on new build-to-suit developments and selective strategic acquisitions. As a general comment on the investment market, cap rates appear to be holding across our portfolio markets. Although the positive momentum we observed heading into 2026 could understandably be tempered by recent headwinds related to the conflict in the Middle East and correspondingly higher inflation concerns and bond yields, our recent experience on the ground appears to suggest that investor demand, consistent with occupier demand in our portfolio markets, remains resilient, particularly for modern product and key locations.
Kevan Gorrie: As disclosed and as mentioned, we utilized our ATM program to a small degree since our last call. We hope, if the price is supportive, unit price is supportive, to utilize the ATM prudently to augment our disposition program and free cash flow as a source of capital for near term accretive deployment on new build-to-suit developments and selective strategic acquisitions. As a general comment on the investment market, cap rates appear to be holding across our portfolio markets. Although the positive momentum we observed heading into 2026 could understandably be tempered by recent headwinds related to the conflict in the Middle East and correspondingly higher inflation concerns and bond yields, our recent experience on the ground appears to suggest that investor demand, consistent with occupier demand in our portfolio markets, remains resilient, particularly for modern product and key locations.
Speaker #2: As a general comment on the investment market, cap rates appear to be holding across our portfolio markets, and although the positive momentum we observed heading into 2026 could understandably be tempered by recent headwinds related to the conflict in the Middle East and correspondingly higher inflation concerns in bond yields, our recent experience on the ground appears to suggest that investor demand consistent with occupier demand in our portfolio markets remains resilient particularly for modern product and key locations.
Speaker #2: In summary, I would characterize the quarter as positive, led by strong operating results and sound deliberate execution of our investment strategy, with our full year guidance firmly intact.
Kevan Gorrie: In summary, I would characterize the quarter as positive, led by strong operating results and sound, deliberate execution of our investment strategy with our full year guidance firmly intact. Looking forward, we remain encouraged by the continued steady improvement in leasing activity across our portfolio markets, particularly in the newer segments. As I stated, while higher energy prices and instability may impair this momentum if the conflict is prolonged, the data continue to suggest the trade policy shifts and ongoing geopolitical uncertainty appear to support continued expansion of inland supply chains, benefiting markets such as Dallas, Indianapolis, and Atlanta, while negatively impacting demand and higher cost West Coast markets.
Kevan Gorrie: In summary, I would characterize the quarter as positive, led by strong operating results and sound, deliberate execution of our investment strategy with our full year guidance firmly intact. Looking forward, we remain encouraged by the continued steady improvement in leasing activity across our portfolio markets, particularly in the newer segments. As I stated, while higher energy prices and instability may impair this momentum if the conflict is prolonged, the data continue to suggest the trade policy shifts and ongoing geopolitical uncertainty appear to support continued expansion of inland supply chains, benefiting markets such as Dallas, Indianapolis, and Atlanta, while negatively impacting demand and higher cost West Coast markets.
Speaker #2: Looking forward, we remain encouraged by the continued steady improvement in leasing activity across our portfolio markets, particularly in the newer segment. As I stated, with higher energy while higher energy prices and instability may impair this momentum if the conflict is prolonged, the data continue to suggest the trade policy shifts and ongoing geopolitical uncertainty appear to support continued expansion of inland supply chains.
Speaker #2: Benefiting markets such as Dallas, Indianapolis, and Atlanta, while negatively impacting demand and higher cost West Coast markets. In closing, we are well positioned to deliver strong financial results and execute on all of our corporate objectives for the year, and our focus remains on active asset management and effective capital allocation.
Kevan Gorrie: In closing, we are well positioned to deliver strong financial results and execute on all of our corporate objectives for the year. Our focus remains on active asset management and effective capital allocation, which we believe will deliver attractive income and net asset value growth for our unitholders. On behalf of the management team at Granite, I'd like to open up the floor for questions, please.
Kevan Gorrie: In closing, we are well positioned to deliver strong financial results and execute on all of our corporate objectives for the year. Our focus remains on active asset management and effective capital allocation, which we believe will deliver attractive income and net asset value growth for our unitholders. On behalf of the management team at Granite, I'd like to open up the floor for questions, please.
Speaker #2: Which we believe will deliver attractive income and net asset value growth for our unit holders. So on behalf of the management team, the Granite, I'd like to open up the floor for questions, please.
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Speaker #3: Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and thank you, Kevin and Teresa, for a comprehensive overview with a great quarter. So I guess good commentary there.
Sam Damiani: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Thank you, Kevin and Teresa, for a comprehensive overview, with a great quarter. I guess, you know, good commentary there. I'm just wondering, Kevin, if you are looking at the supply side of the sort of the leasing market and if you have any different view than a quarter ago. Are you any more or less concerned about the pace of supply in your key markets?
Sam Damiani: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Thank you, Kevin and Teresa, for a comprehensive overview, with a great quarter. I guess, you know, good commentary there. I'm just wondering, Kevin, if you are looking at the supply side of the sort of the leasing market and if you have any different view than a quarter ago. Are you any more or less concerned about the pace of supply in your key markets?
Speaker #3: I'm just wondering, Kevin, if you are looking at the supply side of the sort of the leasing market and if you have any different view than a quarter ago, are you any more or less concerned about the pace of supply in your key markets?
Speaker #4: No, I'm certainly not. I think it continues to slow down, and I think in terms of net absorption, the markets that we're in anyways continue to perform very well.
Kevan Gorrie: No, I'm certainly not. I think it continues to slow down. I think in terms of net absorption, the markets that we're in anyways continue to perform very well. As I mentioned, they were the top 3 markets in the US and 8 of the top 10. We're not concerned with the level of supply. Frankly, I made a point about the absorption in the newer product segment because I think that that's very important and very telling. I think occupier demand. We talked about consolidation, and I think that lends to larger bay segment. There is a clear bias towards this newer product, which I think is driving a lot of the demand. The level that's needed for automation and higher power requirements.
Kevan Gorrie: No, I'm certainly not. I think it continues to slow down. I think in terms of net absorption, the markets that we're in anyways continue to perform very well. As I mentioned, they were the top 3 markets in the US and 8 of the top 10. We're not concerned with the level of supply. Frankly, I made a point about the absorption in the newer product segment because I think that that's very important and very telling. I think occupier demand. We talked about consolidation, and I think that lends to larger bay segment. There is a clear bias towards this newer product, which I think is driving a lot of the demand. The level that's needed for automation and higher power requirements.
Speaker #4: As I mentioned, the top three markets in the US and eight of the top 10. So we are not concerned with the level of supply.
Speaker #4: And frankly, I made a point about the absorption in the newer product segment because I think that that's very important and very telling. I think occupier demand and we talked about consolidation, and I think that lends to larger base segment.
Speaker #4: But there is a clear bias towards this newer product. Which I think is driving a lot of the demand. The level that's needed for automation and the higher power requirements so I think where we're positioned as a portfolio in newer products, it's going to continue to serve us very well in terms of market performance moving forward.
Kevan Gorrie: I think where we're positioned as a portfolio in newer products, is going to continue to serve us very well in terms of market performance moving forward.
Kevan Gorrie: I think where we're positioned as a portfolio in newer products, is going to continue to serve us very well in terms of market performance moving forward.
Speaker #3: Thank you. And just for my follow-up, the pace of dispositions is pretty healthy here with the one in Georgia announced last night. Potentially, using the ATM as a source as well.
Sam Damiani: Thank you. Just for my follow-up, you know, the pace of dispositions is pretty healthy here with the, with the one in Georgia announced last night. You know, potentially, you know, using the ATM as a sources as well. The acquisition, you know, pipeline is building, but it's not completely offsetting the dispositions. Is that a sign that Granite is targeting a slowly sort of moderating balance sheet leverage ratio over the, over the next year or two?
Sam Damiani: Thank you. Just for my follow-up, you know, the pace of dispositions is pretty healthy here with the, with the one in Georgia announced last night. You know, potentially, you know, using the ATM as a sources as well. The acquisition, you know, pipeline is building, but it's not completely offsetting the dispositions. Is that a sign that Granite is targeting a slowly sort of moderating balance sheet leverage ratio over the, over the next year or two?
Speaker #3: And the acquisition pipeline is building, but it's not completely offsetting the dispositions. Is that a sign that Granite is targeting a slowly, sort of moderating balance sheet leverage ratio over the next year or two?
Kevan Gorrie: I think that that's very fair. I think when we look at investment opportunities, we continue to see more value in smaller portfolios and single assets. I think, we have to work within our limitations, and we understand that. I think it's going to be our acquisition program or growth program is going to be, in our minds, steady. We will use the ATM selectively if the price is supportive, and we hope to do that because look, we've said before there have been opportunities that we have not been able to transact on because of the constraints of the balance sheet. We'll continue to be mindful of that. We see compelling opportunities in our market and wanna continue to pursue the right opportunities.
Speaker #4: I think that that's very fair. I think when we look at investment opportunities, we continue to see more value in smaller portfolios and single assets.
Kevan Gorrie: I think that that's very fair. I think when we look at investment opportunities, we continue to see more value in smaller portfolios and single assets. I think, we have to work within our limitations, and we understand that. I think it's going to be our acquisition program or growth program is going to be, in our minds, steady. We will use the ATM selectively if the price is supportive, and we hope to do that because look, we've said before there have been opportunities that we have not been able to transact on because of the constraints of the balance sheet. We'll continue to be mindful of that. We see compelling opportunities in our market and wanna continue to pursue the right opportunities.
Speaker #4: And so I think and also we have to work within our limitations, and we understand that. So I think it's going to be our acquisition program or growth program is going to be in our minds steady.
Speaker #4: We will use the ATM selectively if the price is supportive, and we hope to do that because, look, we've said before, there have been opportunities that we have not been able to transact on because of the constraints of the balance sheet.
Speaker #4: And we'll continue to be mindful of that. But we see compelling opportunities in our market and want to continue to pursue the right opportunities.
Speaker #4: Not only that's going to improve the quality of the portfolio, but provide us growth in the future years in the near term. So these are the priorities.
Kevan Gorrie: Not only that's gonna improve the quality of the portfolio, but provide us growth in the future years in the near term. These are the priorities, and I don't, I don't see that changing. I think we've been successful at it and remaining disciplined, and I think we're just gonna stick with our knitting for now.
Kevan Gorrie: Not only that's gonna improve the quality of the portfolio, but provide us growth in the future years in the near term. These are the priorities, and I don't, I don't see that changing. I think we've been successful at it and remaining disciplined, and I think we're just gonna stick with our knitting for now.
Speaker #4: And I don't see that changing. I think we've been successful at it and remaining disciplined. And I think we're just going to stick with our knitting for now.
Speaker #3: Great. Thank you. And I'll turn it back.
Sam Damiani: Great. Thank you, and I'll turn it back.
Sam Damiani: Great. Thank you, and I'll turn it back.
Speaker #1: Thank you for your questions. We will move to the next one in the queue. Your next question comes from the line of Brad Sturgis with Raymond James.
Operator 3: Thank you for your questions. We will move to the next one in the queue. Your next question comes from the line of Brad Sturges with Raymond James. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you for your questions. We will move to the next one in the queue. Your next question comes from the line of Brad Sturges with Raymond James. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
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Speaker #3: Hey, good morning. Just on the leasing side of things, just one of the key on your opening comments around seeing maybe a little bit less activity on the small and mid-base side of things.
Brad Sturges: Hey, good morning. Just on the leasing side of things, one of the key on your opening comments around seeing maybe a little bit less activity on the small and mid bay side of things, curious as to why you think that might be the case here compared to seeing a bit more activity on large bay?
Brad Sturges: Hey, good morning. Just on the leasing side of things, one of the key on your opening comments around seeing maybe a little bit less activity on the small and mid bay side of things, curious as to why you think that might be the case here compared to seeing a bit more activity on large bay?
Speaker #3: And I'm curious as to why you think that might be the case here, compared to seeing a bit more activity on Larch Bay?
Speaker #4: I think one of the themes we've discussed on previous calls is consolidation, right? Like we said, the larger base perform well, but overall, leasing has been leasing activity has been below the 10-year average until the first quarter.
Kevan Gorrie: I think one of the themes we've discussed on previous calls is consolidation, right? Like we said, the larger bays perform well, but overall, leasing, you know, leasing activity has been below the ten-year average until Q1. I think it's consistent with that. I think that's led to a very strong quarter for the large bay in Q1. I think that will probably continue for the next couple of quarters.
Kevan Gorrie: I think one of the themes we've discussed on previous calls is consolidation, right? Like we said, the larger bays perform well, but overall, leasing, you know, leasing activity has been below the ten-year average until Q1. I think it's consistent with that. I think that's led to a very strong quarter for the large bay in Q1. I think that will probably continue for the next couple of quarters.
Speaker #4: But I think it's consistent with that. And so I think that's led to a very strong quarter for the Larch Bay in Q1. And I think that that will probably continue for the next couple of quarters.
Speaker #3: Okay. And I guess on the leasing activity so far, that you've committed to, it looks like you've started to work on a bit of the 27 maturities.
Brad Sturges: Okay. I guess on the leasing activity so far, that you've committed to, it looks like you've started to work on a bit of the 2027 maturities. Any thoughts on what the rent mark to market could be or any early indications around non-renewal? I guess just more looking for general thoughts of what to expect for next year.
Brad Sturges: Okay. I guess on the leasing activity so far, that you've committed to, it looks like you've started to work on a bit of the 2027 maturities. Any thoughts on what the rent mark to market could be or any early indications around non-renewal? I guess just more looking for general thoughts of what to expect for next year.
Speaker #3: Any thoughts on what the rent market-to-market could be or any early indications around non-renewal? I guess just more looking for general thoughts of what to expect for next year.
Speaker #4: No, I don't think we do on the rent side yet. I would just say in terms of the renewals, we by default, we assume somewhere between 70 and 75 percent, which is very common in our sector.
Kevan Gorrie: No, I don't think we do on the rent side yet. I would just say in terms of the renewals, by default, we assume somewhere between 70% and 75%, which is very, you know, very common in our sector. I will say there's 3 expiries in 2027 that are over 500,000 feet. There's 2 in Europe, and there's 1 in the US. We don't have any indications at this time that any of those tenants are planning to vacate. You know, the utilization levels in those buildings seem quite high. That would be my comments in 2027. Early days, but that's our viewpoint.
Kevan Gorrie: No, I don't think we do on the rent side yet. I would just say in terms of the renewals, by default, we assume somewhere between 70% and 75%, which is very, you know, very common in our sector. I will say there's 3 expiries in 2027 that are over 500,000 feet. There's 2 in Europe, and there's 1 in the US. We don't have any indications at this time that any of those tenants are planning to vacate. You know, the utilization levels in those buildings seem quite high. That would be my comments in 2027. Early days, but that's our viewpoint.
Speaker #4: I will say there's three expiries in 2027 that are over 500,000 feet. There's two in Europe, and there's one in the US. And we don't have any indications at this time that any of those are planning to vacate.
Speaker #4: And the utilization levels in those buildings seem quite high. So that would be my comments in 2027, early days, but that's our viewpoint.
Speaker #3: Okay. Appreciate that. I'll turn it back.
Brad Sturges: Okay. Appreciate that. I'll turn it back.
Brad Sturges: Okay. Appreciate that. I'll turn it back.
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Speaker #3: Thank you. And good morning, everyone. So first question on this Vaughan Magna property looks like you're expecting some lease termination income there. So can you elaborate?
Himanshu Gupta: Thank you, and good morning, everyone. First question on this Vaughan Magna property. Looks like you're expecting some lease termination income there. Can you elaborate? I mean, is that a vacancy you're expecting? And then what are the plans going forward on that property?
Himanshu Gupta: Thank you, and good morning, everyone. First question on this Vaughan Magna property. Looks like you're expecting some lease termination income there. Can you elaborate? I mean, is that a vacancy you're expecting? And then what are the plans going forward on that property?
Speaker #3: I mean, is that a vacancy you're expecting? And then what are the plans going forward on that property?
Kevan Gorrie: Yeah. That was the one that I mentioned, Himanshu. I said a 200,000 foot vacancy at the end of April. Frankly, Teresa mentioned it as well. It's related to a Magna facility in Vaughan, and it was one that's been planned for a few years. They consolidated in one of our Magna facilities in Mississauga. We are aware of their plans. We weren't sure whether they would be in a position to vacate this year, frankly. They were. This is an asset in Vaughan, a very strong location by Jane and Rutherford Road. It's an asset that we wanna keep within this portfolio, and it has a decent amount of excess land.
Kevan Gorrie: Yeah. That was the one that I mentioned, Himanshu. I said a 200,000 foot vacancy at the end of April. Frankly, Teresa mentioned it as well. It's related to a Magna facility in Vaughan, and it was one that's been planned for a few years. They consolidated in one of our Magna facilities in Mississauga. We are aware of their plans. We weren't sure whether they would be in a position to vacate this year, frankly. They were. This is an asset in Vaughan, a very strong location by Jane and Rutherford Road. It's an asset that we wanna keep within this portfolio, and it has a decent amount of excess land.
Speaker #4: Yeah, that was the one that I mentioned the Montreux for the 200,000. So vacancy at the end of April. And frankly, Teresa mentioned it as well.
Speaker #4: It's related to Magna Facility in Vaughan. And it was one that's been planned for a few years. They've consolidated in one of our Magna Facilities in Mississauga.
Speaker #4: So we are aware of their plans. We weren't sure whether they would be in a position to vacate this year, frankly. But they were so this is a asset in Vaughan a very strong location by Jane and Rutherford Road.
Speaker #4: So it's an asset that we want to keep within this portfolio. And it has a decent amount of excess land. So we've already begun to market this asset for lease and we hope to have it at least committed by later this year.
Kevan Gorrie: We've already begun to market this asset for lease, and we hope to, you know, have it, you know, at least committed by later this year.
Kevan Gorrie: We've already begun to market this asset for lease, and we hope to, you know, have it, you know, at least committed by later this year.
Speaker #1: Awesome. Thank you. And for my follow-up question, is on the capital recycling the Atlanta property sold? I think that's the PVH lease if I remember.
Himanshu Gupta: Awesome. Thank you. For my follow-up question is on the capital recycling. You know, the Atlanta property sold. I think that's the PVH lease, if I remember. How is the demand for this asset? 5 cap rate, I mean, looks like a good price. Maybe what was the motivation for sale of this property?
Himanshu Gupta: Awesome. Thank you. For my follow-up question is on the capital recycling. You know, the Atlanta property sold. I think that's the PVH lease, if I remember. How is the demand for this asset? 5 cap rate, I mean, looks like a good price. Maybe what was the motivation for sale of this property?
Speaker #1: How was the demand for this asset? And Five Cafe I mean, looks like a good price. And maybe what was the motivation for sale of this property?
Speaker #4: Well, it was unsolicited that came in. I don't think we even listed it as an asset for help for sale. On our Q4 results.
Kevan Gorrie: Well, it was unsolicited that came in. It wasn't I don't think we even listed it as an asset for sale on our Q4 results. For us, again, a strong asset in a market we like, but contractually, the tenant has control over the space, I think for over a decade. The contractual escalations were low. I can't speak to the motivation for the buyer, but for us, this was one that had limited growth profile, and we could execute it on a low cap rate at a value firmly above our IFRS for deployment. As we've talked about, it is a priority for us.
Kevan Gorrie: Well, it was unsolicited that came in. It wasn't I don't think we even listed it as an asset for sale on our Q4 results. For us, again, a strong asset in a market we like, but contractually, the tenant has control over the space, I think for over a decade. The contractual escalations were low. I can't speak to the motivation for the buyer, but for us, this was one that had limited growth profile, and we could execute it on a low cap rate at a value firmly above our IFRS for deployment. As we've talked about, it is a priority for us.
Speaker #4: But for us, again, a strong asset in a market we like. But contractually, the tenant has control over this space. So I think for over a decade, and the contractual escalations were low.
Speaker #4: So I can't speak to the motivation for the buyer. But for us, this was one that had limited growth profile. And we could execute it on a low-cap rate at a value firmly above ARIA for rest for deployment.
Speaker #4: And as we've talked about, it is a priority for us. We've had very strong growth, not just us, the sector as well, but Granite has had very strong income growth.
Kevan Gorrie: We've had very strong growth, not just us, the sector as well, but Granite has had very strong income growth, and we want to try and extend that as best we can. I think this was an opportune time and asset for us to repatriate that capital and be able to redeploy it creatively. It was unsolicited, and it was a tough asset to let go. At the same time, I think we can generate higher growth by redeploying those proceeds.
Kevan Gorrie: We've had very strong growth, not just us, the sector as well, but Granite has had very strong income growth, and we want to try and extend that as best we can. I think this was an opportune time and asset for us to repatriate that capital and be able to redeploy it creatively. It was unsolicited, and it was a tough asset to let go. At the same time, I think we can generate higher growth by redeploying those proceeds.
Speaker #4: And we want to try and extend that as best we can. And I think this was an opportune time and asset for us to repatriate that capital and be able to redeploy it accretively.
Speaker #4: So, it was unsolicited, and it was a tough asset to let go. But at the same time, I think we can generate higher growth by redeploying those proceeds.
Speaker #1: Thank you. I'll join the line. I have a couple more, but I'll see you later. Thank you.
Himanshu Gupta: Thank you. I'll join the line. I have a couple more, but I'll see you later. Thank you.
Himanshu Gupta: Thank you. I'll join the line. I have a couple more, but I'll see you later. Thank you.
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Speaker #3: Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Just as you look across your different markets, are the sources of the leasing demand that you're seeing today different, maybe from the Midwest to the Sun Belt to the other southeastern markets?
Kyle Stanley: Thanks. Morning, everyone. Just as you look across your different markets, you know, are the sources of the leasing demand that you're seeing today different maybe from the Midwest to the Sun Belt to the other southeastern markets? You know, would the demand in maybe some of your tier 1 markets within the portfolio be more focused in, you know, a certain bay size? Just trying to understand the different dynamics across the various markets.
Kyle Stanley: Thanks. Morning, everyone. Just as you look across your different markets, you know, are the sources of the leasing demand that you're seeing today different maybe from the Midwest to the Sun Belt to the other southeastern markets? You know, would the demand in maybe some of your tier 1 markets within the portfolio be more focused in, you know, a certain bay size? Just trying to understand the different dynamics across the various markets.
Speaker #3: Would the demand in maybe some of your tier one markets within the portfolio be more focused in a certain base size? Just trying to understand the different dynamics across the various markets.
Speaker #4: Well, they are different. I would say very generally, if we're looking at the Midwest and even the Southeast, it is a real mix. Three PLs still continue to be very active.
Kevan Gorrie: Well, they are different. I would say very generally, if we're looking at the Midwest and even the Southeast, it is a real mix. 3PL still continue to be very active. We have seen some activity with data center suppliers and operators that's having an impact, a positive impact on our markets. In Europe, we have seen more activity among the agent 3PLs, which is having a positive impact, particularly in the UK. It's different. I think what's consistent, though, what we've seen is manufacturing and nearshoring continues to have a positive impact. 3PL activity, particularly out of Asia, is a positive impact, I would say pretty globally, is a comment I would make.
Kevan Gorrie: Well, they are different. I would say very generally, if we're looking at the Midwest and even the Southeast, it is a real mix. 3PL still continue to be very active. We have seen some activity with data center suppliers and operators that's having an impact, a positive impact on our markets. In Europe, we have seen more activity among the agent 3PLs, which is having a positive impact, particularly in the UK. It's different. I think what's consistent, though, what we've seen is manufacturing and nearshoring continues to have a positive impact. 3PL activity, particularly out of Asia, is a positive impact, I would say pretty globally, is a comment I would make.
Speaker #4: We have seen some activity with data center suppliers and operators that's having an impact, a positive impact on our markets. In Europe, we have seen more activity among the Agent 3 PLs.
Speaker #4: Which is having a positive impact, particularly in the UK. So it's different. I think what's consistent, though, what we've seen is manufacturing in nearshoring continues to have a positive impact.
Speaker #4: And 3PL activity, particularly out of Asia, is a positive impact, I would say, pretty globally, is a comment I would make.
Speaker #3: Okay. No, that's encouraging. Maybe just for my second question, you made a comment about focusing on build-to-suite development. I'm just curious, what is the demand profile out there today for build-to-suite?
Kyle Stanley: Okay. No, that's that's encouraging. Maybe just for my second question, you made a comment about, you know, focusing on build to suit development. Just curious, you know, what is the demand profile out there today for, you know, build to suit? You know, what type of tenants would be pursuing this? You know, which markets are, you know, most attractive to those pursuing it?
Kyle Stanley: Okay. No, that's that's encouraging. Maybe just for my second question, you made a comment about, you know, focusing on build to suit development. Just curious, you know, what is the demand profile out there today for, you know, build to suit? You know, what type of tenants would be pursuing this? You know, which markets are, you know, most attractive to those pursuing it?
Speaker #3: What type of tenants would be pursuing this? And which markets are most attractive to those pursuing it?
Speaker #4: Well, if I focus on the markets where we actually have land for development and we're able to develop, so that would be Brantford and Houston.
Kevan Gorrie: Well, if I focus on the markets where we actually have land for development and we're able to develop, so that would be Brantford and Houston primarily, we do have decent activity from prospects on both those sites. I can tell you there's really no trend. They've been sort of across the board. One is a manufacturer, one is a retailer, for example. We have seen decent activity. Again, I think tenants continue to be very selective. Occupiers are back in the market, but they've been cost sensitive, which I mentioned, and they've been selective. Thankfully for us, both of these markets seem to be in demand, particularly Houston. I can't really point to any particular occupier that's looking for it, but the demand for build to suit remains strong.
Kevan Gorrie: Well, if I focus on the markets where we actually have land for development and we're able to develop, so that would be Brantford and Houston primarily, we do have decent activity from prospects on both those sites. I can tell you there's really no trend. They've been sort of across the board. One is a manufacturer, one is a retailer, for example. We have seen decent activity. Again, I think tenants continue to be very selective. Occupiers are back in the market, but they've been cost sensitive, which I mentioned, and they've been selective. Thankfully for us, both of these markets seem to be in demand, particularly Houston. I can't really point to any particular occupier that's looking for it, but the demand for build to suit remains strong.
Speaker #4: Primarily, we do have decent activity from prospects on both those sites. I can tell you there's really no trend—they've been sort of across the board.
Speaker #4: One is manufacturer. One is a retailer. For example, so we have seen decent activity. Again, I think tenants continue to be very selective occupiers are back in the market, but they've been cost-sensitive, which I mentioned.
Speaker #4: And they've been selective. Thankfully for us, both of these markets seem to be in demand. Particularly Houston. So I can't really point to any particular occupier that's looking for it.
Speaker #4: But the demand for build-to-suite remains strong.
Speaker #3: Okay. Thank you for that. I will turn it back.
Kyle Stanley: Okay. Thank you for that. I will turn it back.
Kyle Stanley: Okay. Thank you for that. I will turn it back.
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Speaker #3: Thanks. Good morning. Maybe two parts of the question. Kevin, you definitely sound a little more optimistic on the fundamentals and the activity that you're seeing.
Mark Rothschild: Thanks. Good morning. Maybe two parts to the question, Kevin. I mean, you definitely sound a little more optimistic on the fundamentals and the activity that you're seeing. Is it any specific region, whether it's the US or Europe or Canada that you feel most excited about right now as far as the deals that you're seeing and what you're doing? Maybe the second part to that is just how you think about capital allocation. You spoke a little bit about that in regards to the deals and not pushing the balance sheet, but, you know, using the ATM, obviously not in a material way, but I don't think you look at it as issuing at a premium to NAV, how you're thinking about that.
Mark Rothschild: Thanks. Good morning. Maybe two parts to the question, Kevin. I mean, you definitely sound a little more optimistic on the fundamentals and the activity that you're seeing. Is it any specific region, whether it's the US or Europe or Canada that you feel most excited about right now as far as the deals that you're seeing and what you're doing? Maybe the second part to that is just how you think about capital allocation. You spoke a little bit about that in regards to the deals and not pushing the balance sheet, but, you know, using the ATM, obviously not in a material way, but I don't think you look at it as issuing at a premium to NAV, how you're thinking about that.
Speaker #3: Is it any specific region, whether it's the US or Europe or Canada, that you feel most excited about right now as far as the deals that you're seeing and what you're doing?
Speaker #3: And maybe the second part to that is just how you think about capital allocation. You spoke a little bit about that in regards to the deals and not pushing the balance sheet.
Speaker #3: But using the ATM, obviously not in a a material way, but I don't think you look at it as issuing at a premium to any of these.
Speaker #3: So how you're thinking about that.
Speaker #4: Yeah, I think that's a very fair question, Mark. I think, and I've talked about this on calls before, where we sit today, we're aware of where IFRS NAV is, we're aware of where Consensus NAV is, but we're also seeing very compelling opportunities in our market.
Kevan Gorrie: Yeah, I think that's a very fair question, Mark. I've talked about this on calls before. Where we sit today is we're aware of where IFRS NAV is, we're aware of where consensus NAV is, but we're also seeing very compelling opportunities in our market. When I think about it, looking at assets in these tier 1 markets that we've been priced out of forever, with core assets in core locations with attractive growth profile in the near term at yields we haven't seen in almost a decade. That's what we're facing right now. We're trying to do it in a very prudent manner in terms of capital allocation. We also don't wanna miss out on some of these opportunities. We're not talking about large portfolios. We're talking about very targeted acquisitions as I mentioned.
Kevan Gorrie: Yeah, I think that's a very fair question, Mark. I've talked about this on calls before. Where we sit today is we're aware of where IFRS NAV is, we're aware of where consensus NAV is, but we're also seeing very compelling opportunities in our market. When I think about it, looking at assets in these tier 1 markets that we've been priced out of forever, with core assets in core locations with attractive growth profile in the near term at yields we haven't seen in almost a decade. That's what we're facing right now. We're trying to do it in a very prudent manner in terms of capital allocation. We also don't wanna miss out on some of these opportunities. We're not talking about large portfolios. We're talking about very targeted acquisitions as I mentioned.
Speaker #4: When I think about it, looking at assets in these tier-one markets that we've been priced out of forever, with core assets in core locations, with attractive growth profiles in the near term, at yields we haven't seen in almost a decade.
Speaker #4: And so that's what we're facing right now. We're trying to do it in a very prudent manner in terms of capital allocation. But we also don't want to miss out on some of these opportunities.
Speaker #4: And we're not talking about large portfolios. We're talking about very targeted, acquisitions as I mentioned. So it's a tough question for us. And the ATM, we're using it.
Kevan Gorrie: It's a tough question for us. The ATM, we're using it. We want to use it in a measured way. I mean, obviously, when you're in blackout, you know how it works. You issue instructions, and the agent follows those instructions. Once we're out of blackout, as we are soon, we have much more discretion on how we use it. That's how we're gonna continue to view it. In terms of the opportunities themselves, we've said we want to continue to grow in the GTA. We want to continue to grow in Canada. We have seen better opportunities, we feel, in our select US markets and in Europe.
Kevan Gorrie: It's a tough question for us. The ATM, we're using it. We want to use it in a measured way. I mean, obviously, when you're in blackout, you know how it works. You issue instructions, and the agent follows those instructions. Once we're out of blackout, as we are soon, we have much more discretion on how we use it. That's how we're gonna continue to view it. In terms of the opportunities themselves, we've said we want to continue to grow in the GTA. We want to continue to grow in Canada. We have seen better opportunities, we feel, in our select US markets and in Europe.
Speaker #4: We want to use it in a measured way. I mean, obviously, when you're in blackout, you know how it works. You issue instructions, and the agent follows those instructions.
Speaker #4: Once we're out of blackout, as we are soon, we can do it in a we can be we have much more discretion on how we use it.
Speaker #4: But, and that's how we're going to continue to view it. In terms of the opportunities themselves, we've said we want to continue to grow in the GTA.
Speaker #4: We want to continue to grow in Canada. We have seen better opportunities. We feel in our select US markets and in Europe. And I think that we'll continue to look at all of those markets and work within our means to continue to diversify and improve the portfolio.
Kevan Gorrie: I think that, we'll continue to look at all those markets and work within our means to continue to diversify and improve the portfolio and drive, again, continued growth in future years, which is a priority for us.
Kevan Gorrie: I think that, we'll continue to look at all those markets and work within our means to continue to diversify and improve the portfolio and drive, again, continued growth in future years, which is a priority for us.
Speaker #4: And drive again, continued growth in future years, which is a priority for us.
Speaker #3: Okay. Great. Thanks so much.
Mark Rothschild: Okay, great. Thanks so much.
Mark Rothschild: Okay, great. Thanks so much.
Speaker #2: Thank you for your question. We will move to the next one in the queue. Your next question comes from the line of Pammy Burr with RBC Capital Markets.
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Pammi Bir: Thanks, good morning. It sounds like the tone on leasing continues to improve. Are you seeing any changes in terms of whether it's the lease durations or incentives or the timelines it's taking to get deals completed, you know, in light of anything that's happening in the Middle East or even the USMCA, which remains under review?
Speaker #3: Thanks, and good morning. It sounds like the tone on leasing continues to improve. So, are you seeing any changes in terms of whether it's the lease durations, or incentives, or the timelines it's taking to get deals completed, in light of anything that's happening in the Mideast?
Pammi Bir: Thanks, good morning. It sounds like the tone on leasing continues to improve. Are you seeing any changes in terms of whether it's the lease durations or incentives or the timelines it's taking to get deals completed, you know, in light of anything that's happening in the Middle East or even the USMCA, which remains under review?
Speaker #3: Or even the USMCA, which remains under review?
Speaker #4: I don't think we've really seen an impact. I think we definitely saw an increase in incentives, but that seems to have plateaued in line with vacancies.
Kevan Gorrie: I don't think we've really seen an impact. I think we definitely saw an increase in incentives, but that seems to have plateaued in line with vacancies. We haven't seen much there, to be honest with you. In terms of duration, I would say, and this could be just a bias on the deals that we've worked on, the duration does seem to be a bit longer. That could be a function of just the amount of investment that's going in typically behind the doors. I would say duration seems to be up recently. Incentives seem to be stable, and rents seem to be moving in the right direction.
Kevan Gorrie: I don't think we've really seen an impact. I think we definitely saw an increase in incentives, but that seems to have plateaued in line with vacancies. We haven't seen much there, to be honest with you. In terms of duration, I would say, and this could be just a bias on the deals that we've worked on, the duration does seem to be a bit longer. That could be a function of just the amount of investment that's going in typically behind the doors. I would say duration seems to be up recently. Incentives seem to be stable, and rents seem to be moving in the right direction.
Speaker #4: So, we haven't seen much there, to be honest with you. In terms of duration, I would say—and this could just be a bias based on the deals that we've worked on—the duration does seem to be a bit longer.
Speaker #4: And that could be a function of just the amount of investment that's going in. Typically, behind the doors. So I would say duration seems to be up recently.
Speaker #4: Incentives seem to be stable and rents seem to be moving in the right direction.
Speaker #3: Okay, that's helpful. And then just—I did want to come back to the bond space. I believe you mentioned that you've got, or you're, I guess, aiming to have it committed by year-end.
Pammi Bir: Okay. That's helpful. Just I did wanna come back to the Vaughan space. I believe you mentioned that you're, I guess, aiming to have it committed by year-end. How does the market rent compare to that space that Magna was paying? Are you anticipating to put any sort of bigger amounts of capital or larger, sorry, amounts of capital to get a deal done?
Pammi Bir: Okay. That's helpful. Just I did wanna come back to the Vaughan space. I believe you mentioned that you're, I guess, aiming to have it committed by year-end. How does the market rent compare to that space that Magna was paying? Are you anticipating to put any sort of bigger amounts of capital or larger, sorry, amounts of capital to get a deal done?
Speaker #3: How does the market rent compare to that space that Magna was paying? And then are you anticipating to put any sort of bigger amounts of capital or larger amounts of capital to get it to get a deal done?
Kevan Gorrie: I think offhand, I think the in-place rents were roughly 50% below market. Everyone seems to be nodding in the room. In terms of the CapEx spend, we're not anticipating that would be a very large CapEx spend. Certainly, if there was the right tenant for the space that required a higher TI or landlord's load, that certainly would be priced into the economics of the deal.
Speaker #4: Offhand, I think the in-place rents were roughly 50% below market, and everyone seems to be nodding in the room. In terms of the CapEx spend, we're not anticipating that would be a very large CapEx spend.
Kevan Gorrie: I think offhand, I think the in-place rents were roughly 50% below market. Everyone seems to be nodding in the room. In terms of the CapEx spend, we're not anticipating that would be a very large CapEx spend. Certainly, if there was the right tenant for the space that required a higher TI or landlord's load, that certainly would be priced into the economics of the deal.
Speaker #4: And certainly, if there was the right tenant for the space that required a higher TI or landlord's work, that certainly would be priced into the economics of the deal.
Speaker #3: Great. Thanks very much. I'll turn it back.
Pammi Bir: Great. Thanks very much. I'll turn it back.
Pammi Bir: Great. Thanks very much. I'll turn it back.
Speaker #2: Thank you for your question. Your next question comes from the line of Matt Cornock with National Bank Capital Markets. Your line is now open.
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Speaker #3: Hey, guys. Can you give us a sense as to what stands between now and you becoming potentially the first A-rated REIT credit in Canada?
Matt Kornack: Hey, guys. Can you give us a sense as to what stands between now and you becoming potentially the first A-rated REIT credit in Canada?
Matt Kornack: Hey, guys. Can you give us a sense as to what stands between now and you becoming potentially the first A-rated REIT credit in Canada?
Speaker #5: I think, honestly, we just have to show on a sustained basis that we can hold kind of decibels, like below 7.2 times for like 12 to 18 months.
Teresa Neto: I think honestly, we just have to show on a sustained basis that we can hold kind of debt EBITDA like below 7.2x for like 12 to 18 months. You know, obviously, you know, they have some flexibility there, but I think that should be very doable. At least like based on our forecast, we're gonna stay below 7 to the end of the year based on the current forecast. You know, I think it may not be a 2027 event, but it's looking pretty good for 2028, assuming we kind of carry on as we do right now.
Teresa Neto: I think honestly, we just have to show on a sustained basis that we can hold kind of debt EBITDA like below 7.2x for like 12 to 18 months. You know, obviously, you know, they have some flexibility there, but I think that should be very doable. At least like based on our forecast, we're gonna stay below 7 to the end of the year based on the current forecast. You know, I think it may not be a 2027 event, but it's looking pretty good for 2028, assuming we kind of carry on as we do right now.
Speaker #5: And obviously, they have some flexibility there. But I think that, and that should be very doable, at least based on our forecast. We're going to stay below 7 to the end of the year, based on the current forecast.
Speaker #5: So we just, I think it may not be a 27 event, but it's looking pretty good for 28, assuming we kind of carry on as we do right now.
Speaker #4: You mean 26 to 27?
Kevan Gorrie: You mean 26 to 27?
Kevan Gorrie: You mean 26 to 27?
Teresa Neto: Sorry. The next review will be in 2027, we'll have 12 months worth, it's very possible in 2027, potentially. I'm just saying if the, you know, DBR receipt is, you know, 12 to 18 months. Certainly, we're on track to deliver the metrics that are necessary to get the upgrade next year.
Speaker #5: Sorry, the next review will be in 27. So we'll have 12 months' worth. So it's very possible in 27, potentially. I'm just saying, but the DVRS is 12 to 18 months.
Teresa Neto: Sorry. The next review will be in 2027, we'll have 12 months worth, it's very possible in 2027, potentially. I'm just saying if the, you know, DBR receipt is, you know, 12 to 18 months. Certainly, we're on track to deliver the metrics that are necessary to get the upgrade next year.
Speaker #5: But certainly, we're on track to deliver the metrics that are necessary to get the upgrade next year.
Speaker #3: Okay. No, I mean, it's well observed. In terms of the—we look at our numbers—you generate anywhere from, call it, $100 to $200 million in free cash flow after paying dividends.
Matt Kornack: Okay. No, I mean, it's well deserved. In terms of like we look at our numbers, you generate anywhere from, call it CAD 100 to 200 million in free cash flow after paying dividends. Is that going to go to kind of development, acquisition, deleveraging at this point? Maybe a very quick one, limit it to 2. Will the disposition, I don't know if you had a capital gain, but would you be able to use the 1031 exchange against what you've already acquired, or would it be used against something that you'd plan to acquire?
Matt Kornack: Okay. No, I mean, it's well deserved. In terms of like we look at our numbers, you generate anywhere from, call it CAD 100 to 200 million in free cash flow after paying dividends. Is that going to go to kind of development, acquisition, deleveraging at this point? Maybe a very quick one, limit it to 2. Will the disposition, I don't know if you had a capital gain, but would you be able to use the 1031 exchange against what you've already acquired, or would it be used against something that you'd plan to acquire?
Speaker #3: Is that going to go to kind of development And then maybe very quick one, we're limited to two. Will the disposition, I don't know if you had a capital gain, but would you be able to use a 1031 exchange against what you've already acquired?
Speaker #3: Or would it be used against something that you'd plan to acquire?
Speaker #4: Yeah, it would be used against something we plan to acquire. And we would always use, anytime we're doing a disposition in the US, we assume we're using the 1031.
Kevan Gorrie: Yeah. It would be used against something we plan to acquire, and anytime we're doing a disposition in the US, we assume we're using the Section 1031. That would be the plan. In terms of deployment, I think it remains the same. I think the build to suits, the one that we have underway in Houston provides, I think, very strong returns, like 7.5% yield on cost. If we can achieve those on future build to suits, I think that would be the highest priority. Not only we have control over the quality of the asset, we're building to a very strong IRR, and we're utilizing our land. That would, I think, be our first priority. Second would be acquisitions.
Kevan Gorrie: Yeah. It would be used against something we plan to acquire, and anytime we're doing a disposition in the US, we assume we're using the Section 1031. That would be the plan. In terms of deployment, I think it remains the same. I think the build to suits, the one that we have underway in Houston provides, I think, very strong returns, like 7.5% yield on cost. If we can achieve those on future build to suits, I think that would be the highest priority. Not only we have control over the quality of the asset, we're building to a very strong IRR, and we're utilizing our land. That would, I think, be our first priority. Second would be acquisitions.
Speaker #4: That would be the plan. In terms of deployment, I think it remains the same. I think the bill pursuits the one that we have underway in Houston provides, I think, very strong returns, like 7.5% yield on cost.
Speaker #4: If we can achieve those on future bill pursuits, I think that would be the highest priority. Not only are we have control over the quality of the asset, we're building to a very strong IRR.
Speaker #4: And we're utilizing our land, so that would, I think, be our first priority. Second would be acquisitions. And again, we want to see acquisitions that improve the portfolio and provide accretion, say, by year three.
Kevan Gorrie: We want to see acquisitions that improve the portfolio and provide accretion, say, by year 3. That would sort of be the priority for us. Finally, debt repayment would be an option as well, certainly if rates were to go up from where they are today.
Kevan Gorrie: We want to see acquisitions that improve the portfolio and provide accretion, say, by year 3. That would sort of be the priority for us. Finally, debt repayment would be an option as well, certainly if rates were to go up from where they are today.
Speaker #4: That would sort of be the priority for us. And then finally, debt repayment would be an option as well. Certainly, if rates were to go up from where they are today.
Speaker #3: Okay. Perfect. Thanks. And congrats on a strong quarter.
Matt Kornack: Okay. Perfect. Thanks, and congrats on a strong quarter.
Matt Kornack: Okay. Perfect. Thanks, and congrats on a strong quarter.
Teresa Neto: Thanks.
Teresa Neto: Thanks.
Speaker #2: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Kevin Gorrie for closing remarks.
Operator 3: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Kevan Gorrie for closing remarks.
Operator: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Kevan Gorrie for closing remarks.
Speaker #4: All right. Well, thanks, everyone, for joining us for the Q1 call. And we look forward to speaking to you again in the second quarter.
Kevan Gorrie: All right. Well, thanks everyone for joining us for the Q1 call, and we look forward to speaking to you again in the Q2.
Kevan Gorrie: All right. Well, thanks everyone for joining us for the Q1 call, and we look forward to speaking to you again in the Q2.
Operator 3: This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.
Operator: This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.
