Q1 2026 Albemarle Corp Earnings Call

May 7, 2026

Operator 2: Hello, welcome to Albemarle Corporation's Q1 2026 Earnings Call. I will now hand it over to Meredith Bandy, Vice President of Investor Relations and Sustainability.

Operator: Hello, welcome to Albemarle Corporation's Q1 2026 Earnings Call. I will now hand it over to Meredith Bandy, Vice President of Investor Relations and Sustainability.

Speaker #2: Thank you, and welcome everyone to ALBEMARLE's first quarter 2026 earnings conference call. Our earnings were released after market closed yesterday, and you'll find the press release and earnings presentation posted to our website under the Investors section at ALBEMARLE.com.

Meredith Bandy: Thank you, welcome everyone to Albemarle's Q1 2026 earnings conference call. Our earnings were released after market close yesterday, and you'll find the press release and earnings presentation posted to our website under the investors section at albemarle.com. Joining me on the call today are Kent Masters, Chief Executive Officer, and Neal Sheorey, Chief Financial Officer, Mark Mummert, Chief Operations Officer, and Eric Norris, Chief Commercial Officer, are also available for Q&A. As a reminder, some of the statements made during this call, including our outlook, guidance, expected company performance, and strategic initiatives may constitute forward-looking statements. Please note the cautionary language about forward-looking statements contained in our press release and earnings presentation. That same language also applies to this call. Please also note that some of our comments today may refer to non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations can be found in our earnings materials.

Meredith Bandy: Thank you, welcome everyone to Albemarle's Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. Our earnings were released after market close yesterday, and you'll find the press release and earnings presentation posted to our website under the investors section at albemarle.com. Joining me on the call today are Kent Masters, Chief Executive Officer, and Neal Sheorey, Chief Financial Officer, Mark Mummert, Chief Operations Officer, and Eric Norris, Chief Commercial Officer, are also available for Q&A. As a reminder, some of the statements made during this call, including our outlook, guidance, expected company performance, and strategic initiatives may constitute forward-looking statements. Please note the cautionary language about forward-looking statements contained in our press release and earnings presentation. That same language also applies to this call. Please also note that some of our comments today may refer to non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations can be found in our earnings materials.

Speaker #2: Joining me on the call today are Kent Masters, Chief Executive Officer, and Neal Sheorey, Chief Financial Officer. Mark Mummert, Chief Operations Officer, and Eric Norris, Chief Commercial Officer, are also available for Q&A.

Speaker #2: As a reminder, some of the statements made during this call, including our outlook, guidance, expected company performance, and strategic initiatives, may constitute forward-looking statements.

Speaker #2: Please note the cautionary language about forward-looking statements contained in our press release and earnings presentation that same language also applies to this call. Please also note that some of our comments today may refer to non-GAAP financial measures, reconciliations can be found in our earnings materials.

Speaker #2: And now I'll turn the call over to Kent.

Meredith Bandy: Now I'll turn the call over to Kent.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Meredith. I'm pleased to report that ALBEMARLE's performance is off to a strong start for 2026. For the first quarter, we reported net sales of $1.4 billion, up 33% year over year.

Kent Masters: Thank you, Meredith. I'm pleased to report that Albemarle's performance is off to a strong start for 2026. For Q1, we reported net sales of $1.4 billion, up 33% year over year. We also delivered adjusted EBITDA of $664 million, more than double the same period last year, reflecting higher pricing and volume in both energy storage and specialties, as well as cost and productivity improvements. We continue to see strong end market demand, which I will discuss in greater detail as we get into the presentation. Our business is well-positioned and resilient in markets. We are maintaining our outlook for strong lithium market growth led by energy storage demand, which is up 117% year over year.

Kent Masters: Thank you, Meredith. I'm pleased to report that Albemarle's performance is off to a strong start for 2026. For Q1, we reported net sales of $1.4 billion, up 33% year-over-year. We also delivered adjusted EBITDA of $664 million, more than double the same period last year, reflecting higher pricing and volume in both energy storage and specialties, as well as cost and productivity improvements. We continue to see strong end market demand, which I will discuss in greater detail as we get into the presentation. Our business is well-positioned and resilient in markets. We are maintaining our outlook for strong lithium market growth led by energy storage demand, which is up 117% year-over-year.

Speaker #3: We also delivered adjusted EBITDA of $664 million, more than double the same period last year, reflecting higher pricing and volume in both energy storage and specialties.

Speaker #3: As well as cost and productivity improvements. We continue to see strong in-market demand, which I will discuss in greater detail as we get into the presentation.

Speaker #3: Our business is well positioned in resilient in-markets. We are maintaining our outlook for strong lithium market growth led by energy storage demand, which is up 117% year over year.

Speaker #3: We remain focused on the areas within our control and made progress during the quarter enhancing operational excellence, focusing on cost and productivity discipline, and driving cash generation to enable long-term volume and earnings growth.

Kent Masters: We remain focused on the areas within our control and made progress during the quarter, enhancing operational excellence, focusing on cost and productivity discipline, and driving cash generation to enable long-term volume and earnings growth. In the first quarter, following the successful sales of our Eurecat joint venture and the controlling stake in Ketjen, we repaid $1.3 billion of debt, further strengthening our balance sheet and reducing interest expense. As Neal will share shortly, we are raising our 2026 outlook for specialties net sales between $1.3 to 1.5 billion, an adjusted EBITDA outlook between $225 to 275 million, reflecting higher pricing and volumes in our specialties business.

Kent Masters: We remain focused on the areas within our control and made progress during the quarter, enhancing operational excellence, focusing on cost and productivity discipline, and driving cash generation to enable long-term volume and earnings growth. In the Q1, following the successful sales of our Eurecat joint venture and the controlling stake in Ketjen, we repaid $1.3 billion of debt, further strengthening our balance sheet and reducing interest expense. As Neal will share shortly, we are raising our 2026 outlook for specialties net sales between $1.3 to 1.5 billion, an adjusted EBITDA outlook between $225 to 275 million, reflecting higher pricing and volumes in our specialties business.

Speaker #3: In the first quarter, following the successful sales of our Eurocat joint venture and the controlling stake in Ketchin, we repaid $1.3 billion of debt, further strengthening our balance sheet and reducing interest expense.

Speaker #3: As Neal will share shortly, we are raising our 2026 outlook for specialties net sales between $1.3 and $1.5 billion, and adjusted EBITDA outlook between $225 and $275 million.

Speaker #3: Reflecting higher pricing and volumes in our specialties business. Moreover, year to date, we've delivered $40 million in cost and productivity improvements and remain on track to hit our full-year target of $100 to $150 million.

Kent Masters: Moreover, year to date, we've delivered $40 million in cost and productivity improvements and remain on track to hit our full year target of $100 to $150 million. We're able to maintain our corporate outlook scenarios as these improvements offset supply chain disruptions. I'll turn it over to Neal to discuss recent results and outlook. I will cover recent market trends and growth projects before we open the call for Q&A.

Speaker #3: We're able to maintain our corporate outlook scenarios as these improvements offset supply chain disruptions. Now I'll turn it over to Neal to discuss recent results and outlook; I will then cover recent market trends and growth projects before we open the call for Q&A.

Neal Sheorey: Thank you, Kent, and good morning, everyone. I will begin with Q1 performance on slide 5. Q1 net sales were $1.4 billion, up 33% year over year, driven by higher volumes in pricing in both segments. Energy storage pricing increased 51%. Volumes for energy storage and specialties were up 14% and 7%, respectively. Adjusted EBITDA for the Q1 was $664 million, up $397 million year over year, reflecting higher volumes in price as well as ongoing cost and productivity improvements in both segments. Both segments also saw strong adjusted EBITDA growth, with energy storage up 196% and specialties up 30%.

Neal Sheorey: Thank you, Kent, and good morning, everyone. I will begin with Q1 performance on slide 5. Q1 net sales were $1.4 billion, up 33% year-over-year, driven by higher volumes in pricing in both segments. Energy storage pricing increased 51%. Volumes for energy storage and specialties were up 14% and 7%, respectively. Adjusted EBITDA for the Q1 was $664 million, up $397 million year-over-year, reflecting higher volumes in price as well as ongoing cost and productivity improvements in both segments. Both segments also saw strong adjusted EBITDA growth, with energy storage up 196% and specialties up 30%.

Speaker #4: Thank you, Kent, and good morning, everyone. I will begin with first quarter performance on slide 5. First quarter net sales were $1.4 billion, up 33% year over year, driven by higher volumes in pricing in both segments.

Speaker #4: Energy storage pricing increased 51%. Volumes for energy storage and specialties were up 14% and 7%, respectively. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $664 million, up $397 million year over year, reflecting higher volumes and price as well as ongoing cost and productivity improvements in both segments.

Speaker #4: Both segments also saw strong adjusted EBITDA growth, with energy storage up 196% and specialties up 30%. Our adjusted EBITDA margin increased by more than 20 percentage points compared to the prior-year quarter, due to higher pricing and our continued focus on cost and productivity improvements.

Neal Sheorey: Our adjusted EBITDA margin increased by more than 20 percentage points compared to the prior year quarter due to higher pricing and our continued focus on cost and productivity improvements. We reported diluted earnings of $2.34 per share. Turning to slide 6, I'll go over the key drivers of our year-over-year EBITDA performance. Q1 adjusted EBITDA increased by 148%, primarily due to higher pricing and volume in both Energy Storage and Specialty segments. In addition, cost of goods sold benefited year over year from cost and productivity improvements in both segments. By segment, Specialties EBITDA increased 30% year over year due to higher pricing and favorable product mix. Energy Storage EBITDA increased 196%, driven by higher lithium market pricing and increased volumes. Both segments results were bolstered by cost and productivity improvements as well.

Neal Sheorey: Our adjusted EBITDA margin increased by more than 20 percentage points compared to the prior year quarter due to higher pricing and our continued focus on cost and productivity improvements. We reported diluted earnings of $2.34 per share. Turning to slide 6, I'll go over the key drivers of our year-over-year EBITDA performance. Q1 adjusted EBITDA increased by 148%, primarily due to higher pricing and volume in both Energy Storage and Specialty segments. In addition, cost of goods sold benefited year-over-year from cost and productivity improvements in both segments. By segment, Specialties EBITDA increased 30% year-over-year due to higher pricing and favorable product mix. Energy Storage EBITDA increased 196%, driven by higher lithium market pricing and increased volumes. Both segments results were bolstered by cost and productivity improvements as well.

Speaker #4: We reported diluted earnings of $2.34 per share. Turning to slide 6, I'll go over the key drivers of our year-over-year EBITDA performance. Q1 adjusted EBITDA increased by 148%, primarily due to higher pricing and volume in both energy storage and specialties segments.

Speaker #4: In addition, cost of goods sold benefited year over year from cost and productivity improvements in both segments. By segment, specialties EBITDA increased 30% year over year, due to higher pricing and favorable product mix.

Speaker #4: Energy storage EBITDA increased 196%, driven by higher lithium market pricing and increased volumes. Both segments results were bolstered by cost and productivity improvements as well.

Speaker #4: The corporate EBITDA change reflects favorable foreign exchange impacts and the fully consolidated results of Ketchin, prior to the divestiture. Turning to slide 7 in our outlook, as usual, we provide total company outlook considerations based on recently observed lithium market pricing scenarios.

Neal Sheorey: The corporate EBITDA change reflects favorable foreign exchange impacts and the fully consolidated results of Ketjen prior to the divestiture. Turning to slide 7 and our outlook. As usual, we provide total company outlook considerations based on recently observed lithium market pricing scenarios. We are maintaining our total company outlook for 2026 across all 3 price scenarios despite global supply chain disruptions related to the Middle East. We estimate that the unmitigated full year cost impact of these supply chain disruptions would be approximately $70 to 90 million and expect it to be offset by the following: Reduced interest expense following our debt reduction actions in Q1 and stronger than expected pricing and volumes in the Specialties Business, which gives us the confidence to increase our full year Specialties outlook, which I will cover on slide 8. The Specialty Segment had a stronger than expected quarter.

Speaker #4: We are maintaining our total company outlook for 2026 across all three price scenarios, despite global supply chain disruptions related to the Middle East. We estimate that the unmitigated full-year cost impact of these supply chain disruptions would be approximately $70 to $90 million and expect it to be offset by the following: reduced interest expense following our debt reduction actions in Q1, and stronger-than-expected pricing and volumes in the specialties business, which gives us the confidence to increase our full-year specialties outlook.

Speaker #4: Which I will cover on slide 8. The specialty segment had a stronger-than-expected quarter, net sales increased 12% year over year, and adjusted EBITDA increased 30%, primarily due to higher pricing favorable product mix and cost and productivity improvements.

Neal Sheorey: Net sales increased 12% year-over-year, and adjusted EBITDA increased 30%, primarily due to higher pricing, favorable product mix, and cost and productivity improvements. For Q2, we expect net sales to increase sequentially due to higher pricing for bromine specialties. EBITDA is also expected to increase modestly as favorable price and volume mix are partially offset by higher costs due to supply chain disruptions. Additionally, operations at the Jordan Bromine Company joint venture have fully recovered from the flooding event in late December 2025 and continue to operate despite geopolitical tensions and disruptions in the region. Looking ahead and taking all these factors into consideration, we are increasing the range of our full year outlook considerations for the Specialties Segment.

Speaker #4: For the second quarter, we expect net sales to increase sequentially, due to higher pricing for bromine specialties. EBITDA is also expected to increase modestly, as favorable price and volume mix are partially offset by higher cost due to supply chain disruptions.

Speaker #4: Additionally, operations at the Jordan Bromine Company joint venture have fully recovered from the flooding event in late December 2025 and continue to operate despite geopolitical tensions and disruptions in the region.

Speaker #4: Looking ahead, and taking all these factors into consideration, we are increasing the range of our full-year outlook considerations for the specialties segment. We are raising our guidance for net sales to $1.3 to $1.5 billion, and for adjusted EBITDA to $225 to $275 million.

Neal Sheorey: We are raising our guidance for net sales to $1.3 to 1.5 billion and for adjusted EBITDA to $225 to 275 million. We now expect EBITDA margin in the high teens. While outlooks for end markets such as petrochemicals and oil and gas remain volatile due to geopolitical tensions, this increase in outlook reflects bromine price and volume opportunities that we see, coupled with our strong operational execution and the success of our cost and productivity improvements. Moving to energy storage on slide 9. Q1 sales volumes were 53,000 tons lithium carbonate equivalent, or LCE, with an average realized price of approximately $17 per kilogram.

Speaker #4: And we now expect EBITDA margin in the high teens. While outlooks for end markets such as petrochemicals and oil and gas remain volatile due to geopolitical tensions, this increase in outlook reflects bromine price and volume opportunities that we see, coupled with our strong operational execution and the success of our cost and productivity improvements.

Speaker #4: Moving to energy storage on slide 9, first quarter sales volumes were 53,000 tons lithium carbonate equivalent, or LCE. With an average realized price of approximately $17 per kilogram.

Speaker #4: The gap between our average realized price and market price is primarily driven by two factors: the one-quarter pricing lag in our long-term contracts, and sales of spodumene, which dilute our realized price on an LCE basis.

Neal Sheorey: The gap between our average realized price and market price is primarily driven by two factors: The one-quarter pricing lag in our long-term contracts and sales of spodumene, which dilute our realized price on an LCE basis. Q1 net sales increased 70% year-over-year due to higher pricing and volumes. Adjusted EBITDA nearly tripled, supported by the same price and volume factors, as well as the timing of consumption of spodumene inventories. For Q2, net sales and EBITDA are expected to be up sequentially, assuming flat lithium market pricing due to increased volumes and pricing lags in our long-term contracts. EBITDA margin is expected to decrease sequentially due to the timing of spodumene inventory consumption and higher costs due to supply chain disruptions related to the Middle East.

Speaker #4: First quarter net sales increased 70% year over year due to higher pricing and volumes. Adjusted EBITDA nearly tripled, supported by the same price and volume factors.

Speaker #4: As well as the timing of consumption of spodumene inventories. For the second quarter, net sales and EBITDA are expected to be up sequentially, assuming flat lithium market pricing.

Speaker #4: Due to increased volumes and pricing lags in our long-term contracts, EBITDA margin is expected to decrease sequentially due to the timing of spodumene inventory consumption and higher costs due to supply chain disruptions related to the Middle East.

Speaker #4: On a full-year basis, we are maintaining our energy storage outlook scenario ranges even after including the impacts of cost increases, due to geopolitical tensions in the Middle East.

Neal Sheorey: On a full year basis, we are maintaining our energy storage outlook scenario ranges even after including the impacts of cost increases due to geopolitical tensions in the Middle East. Our volume guidance also remains unchanged. Turning to slide 10. We continue to be successful in driving productivity improvements and converting earnings to cash. We are on track to deliver our full year 2026 cost and productivity improvements of $100 to 150 million. Year to date, we have achieved $40 million in savings, primarily related to manufacturing and supply chain, including debottlenecking projects such as increasing spodumene utilization at our lithium conversion facilities in China and ramping new assets to their full production capability. We generated $346 million of operating cash flow and $248 million of free cash flow in Q1.

Speaker #4: Our volume guidance also remains unchanged. Turning to slide 10, we continue to be successful in driving productivity improvements and converting earnings to cash. We are on track to deliver our full-year 2026 cost and productivity improvements of $100 to $150 million.

Speaker #4: Year to date, we have achieved $40 million in savings, primarily related to manufacturing and supply chain, including debottlenecking projects, such as increasing spodumene utilization at our lithium conversion facilities in China, and ramping new assets to their full production capability.

Speaker #4: We generated $346 million of operating cash flow, and $248 million of free cash flow in the first quarter. Capital expenditures were $99 million in the quarter.

Neal Sheorey: Capital expenditures were $99 million in the quarter. We continue to expect full year CapEx of $550 to 600 million. At the $20 per kilogram lithium price scenario, full year operating cash flow conversion is expected to be within our long-term target range of 60% to 70%. As previously noted, there are select headwinds to our cash metrics this year, including recognizing deferred revenue related to the customer prepayment we entered in 2025, which will benefit EBITDA but not contribute cash, and cash costs related to idling Kemerton Train One, of which approximately $25 million occurred in Q1. Turning to slide 11. We took advantage of our successful cash and portfolio management actions to pay down debt and further strengthen our balance sheet and financial flexibility.

Speaker #4: We continue to expect full-year CapEx of $550 to $600 million. At the $20 per kilogram lithium price scenario, full-year operating cash flow conversion is expected to be within our long-term target range of $60 to 70%.

Speaker #4: As previously noted, there are select headwinds to our cash metrics this year, including recognizing deferred revenue related to the customer prepayment we entered in 2025, which will benefit EBITDA but not contribute cash, and cash costs related to idling Camerton Train 1, of which approximately $25 million occurred in the first quarter.

Speaker #4: Turning to slide 11, we took advantage of our successful cash and portfolio management actions to pay down debt and further strengthen our balance sheet and financial flexibility.

Speaker #4: During the quarter, we repaid $1.3 billion of debt, reducing our weighted average interest rate to about 3.1% and lowering our annual interest expense by approximately $60 million.

Neal Sheorey: During the quarter, we repaid $1.3 billion of debt, reducing our weighted average interest rate to about 3.1% and lowering our annual interest expense by approximately $60 million. We ended Q1 with a net debt to EBITDA leverage ratio of 1x. From a debt profile standpoint, we have no majorities due until late 2028. Together, these factors offer us substantial flexibility and resilience to navigate the current environment. I will now turn the call back over to Kent to detail our market outlook.

Speaker #4: We ended the first quarter with a net debt-to-EBITDA leverage ratio of one times. And from a debt profile standpoint, we have no major majorities due until late 2028.

Speaker #4: Together, these factors offer us substantial flexibility and resilience to navigate the current environment. I will now turn the call back over to Kent to detail our market outlook.

Speaker #1: Thanks, Neal. Turning to slide 12. Before we dive into the details of the lithium markets, I wanted to take a moment to look at the company more holistically.

Kent Masters: Thanks, Neal. Turning to slide 12. Before we dive into the details of the lithium markets, I wanted to take a moment to look at the company more holistically. Our overall portfolio is well-positioned and resilient end markets. That gives us confidence in the long-term outlook for our business, even with the current geopolitical uncertainties. As a market leader with globally diverse operations, we can pivot to meet dynamic market needs. More than half of our net sales are in new energy end markets like electric vehicles and energy storage, with strong secular growth trends. Both energy storage and the specialty segment benefit from these trends. Our specialty segment end markets are diverse, including electronics, semiconductors, building and construction, and energy. AI demand strength continues to drive strong electronics demand, particularly in Asia and the Americas. Building and construction demand continues in line with our forecast.

Speaker #1: Our overall portfolio is well-positioned in resilient end markets, and that gives us confidence in the long-term outlook for our business, even with the current geopolitical uncertainties.

Speaker #1: As a market leader with globally diverse operations, we can pivot to meet dynamic market needs. More than half of our net sales are in new energy end markets like electric vehicles and energy storage, with strong secular growth trends.

Speaker #1: Both energy storage and the specialties segment benefit from these trends. Our specialties segment end markets are diverse, including electronics, semiconductors, building and construction, and energy.

Speaker #1: AI demand strength continues to drive strong electronics demand, particularly in Asia and the Americas. Building and construction demand continues in line with our forecast.

Speaker #1: While less than 5% of our net sales are in oil and gas markets, we anticipate near-term demand growth as investments shift away from the Middle East towards other regional markets.

Kent Masters: While less than 5% of our net sales are in oil and gas markets, we anticipate near-term demand growth as investments shift away from the Middle East towards other regional markets. Now turning to slide 13. Global lithium demand is tracking in line with our forecast. So far this year, lithium consumption is up 37% towards the upper range of our 2026 forecast of 15% to 40%. We are holding our outlook steady, due in part to geopolitical uncertainties. That said, our early estimates suggest that lithium demand will be relatively resilient to the situation in the Middle East. For example, demand could be slightly up due to greater emphasis on energy storage or electric vehicles, or slightly down due to broader supply chain disruptions. Either of these scenarios falls within our 2026 forecast range.

Speaker #1: Now turning to slide 13, global lithium demand is tracking in line with our forecast. So far this year, lithium consumption is up 37% towards the upper range of our 2026 forecast of 15 to 40 percent.

Speaker #1: We are holding our outlook steady, do in part to geopolitical uncertainties. That said, our early estimates suggest that lithium demand will be relatively resilient to the situation in the Middle East, for example, demand could be slightly up due to greater emphasis on energy storage or electric vehicles, or slightly down due to broader supply chain disruptions.

Speaker #1: Either of these scenarios falls within our 2026 forecast range. Importantly, lithium demand continues to diversify with two key end markets. Energy storage and electric vehicles.

Kent Masters: Importantly, lithium demand continues to diversify with two key end markets, energy storage and electric vehicles. Turning to slide 14. Strong growth in the energy storage sector more than compensated for weak EV sales volumes during the Q1. In China, seasonal weakness during the Lunar New Year and pre-buying in December ahead of subsidy changes led to reduced EV sales in the Q1. 2026 Chinese subsidies have shifted support to premium vehicle segments in Q1, leading to a 20% increase in average Chinese battery size and increased demand for lithium hydroxide. Due to the increased average battery size, global EV sales were up 3% year over year on a gigawatt hour basis, despite a 6% drop in unit sales. In the United States, EV sales were lower year over year, largely attributed to reduced incentives.

Kent Masters: Importantly, lithium demand continues to diversify with two key end markets, energy storage and electric vehicles. Turning to slide 14. Strong growth in the energy storage sector more than compensated for weak EV sales volumes during the Q1. In China, seasonal weakness during the Lunar New Year and pre-buying in December ahead of subsidy changes led to reduced EV sales in the Q1. 2026 Chinese subsidies have shifted support to premium vehicle segments in Q1, leading to a 20% increase in average Chinese battery size and increased demand for lithium hydroxide. Due to the increased average battery size, global EV sales were up 3% year-over-year on a gigawatt hour basis, despite a 6% drop in unit sales. In the United States, EV sales were lower year-over-year, largely attributed to reduced incentives.

Speaker #1: Now turning to slide 14. Strong growth in the energy storage sector more than compensated for weak EV sales volumes during the first quarter. In China, seasonal weakness during the Lunar New Year and pre-buying in December ahead of subsidy changes led to reduced EV sales in the first quarter.

Speaker #1: 2026 Chinese subsidies have shifted support to premium vehicle segments, and Q1 leading to a 20% increase in average Chinese battery size and increased demand for lithium hydroxide.

Speaker #1: Due to the increased average battery size, global EV sales were up 3% year over year on a gigawatt-hour basis, despite a 6% drop in unit sales.

Speaker #1: In the United States, EV sales were lower year over year, largely attributed to reduced incentives. However, I'll note that the US market now represents less than 10% of the global EV market.

Kent Masters: I'll note that the US market now represents less than 10% of the global EV market. Developing markets in other regions such as Brazil, India, and Australia have collectively grown 74% year-over-year as EV penetration continues to diversify globally. European EV sales continue to show robust growth as well, driven by greater policy support, particularly in Germany, France, and the UK. Overall, we remain on track to hit our five-year CAGR for energy storage volume growth of 15%. We achieved 25% CAGR over the first three years and expect to deliver moderate growth over 2026 and 2027 as our large projects complete their ramp. It's important to note that completing this phase of growth requires little to no additional CapEx. Our scaled, low-cost, world-class resources are performing well today with capital-efficient brownfield opportunities to fuel future growth.

Speaker #1: Developing markets in other regions such as Brazil, India, and Australia have collectively grown 74% year over year, as EV penetration continues to diversify globally.

Speaker #1: European EV sales continue to show robust growth as well, driven by greater policy support, particularly in Germany, France, and the UK. Overall, we remain on track to hit our five-year CAGR for energy storage volume growth of 15%.

Speaker #1: We achieved 25% CAGR over the first three years and expect to deliver moderate growth over 2026 and 2027 as our large projects complete their ramp.

Speaker #1: It's important to note that completing this phase of growth requires little to no additional CapEx. Our scaled, low-cost, world-class resources are performing well today, with capital-efficient brownfield opportunities to fuel future growth.

Speaker #1: Turning to our joint ventures on slide 16, operations at both Wajina and Greenbushes are operating well and in line with our expectations. At Wajina, we have clear line of sight to operate all three trains at full capacity.

Kent Masters: Turning to our joint ventures on slide 16. Operations at both Wodgina and Greenbushes are operating well and in line with our expectations. At Wodgina, we have a clear line of sight to operate all 3 trains at full capacity. Ore quality is expected to drop slightly over the next 2 quarters before improving in the Q4 as the stage 3 pit deepens and availability of higher quality ore increases. Greenbushes is a world-class asset. We are confident in the path forward and strategic direction. The CGP3 investment there is operational and ramping as planned. Our team is working closely with Talison's management team on value optimization studies to unlock the additional value as part of a multi-year transformation.

Speaker #1: Ore quality is expected to drop slightly over the next two quarters, before improving in the December quarter as the stage three pit deepens and availability of higher quality ore increases.

Speaker #1: Greenbushes is a world-class asset, and we are confident in the path forward and strategic direction. The CGP3 investment there is operational and ramping as planned.

Speaker #1: Our team is working closely with Towson's management team on value optimization studies to unlock the additional value as part of a multi-year transformation. As a result of these studies, the team has identified productivity improvements, including lower waste movements and a smaller truck fleet operating at higher utilization, helping to reduce the impact of fuel price increases.

Kent Masters: As a result of these studies, the team has identified productivity improvements, including lower waste movements and a smaller truck fleet operating at higher utilization, helping to reduce the impact of fuel price increases. To date, neither operation has been disrupted by global fuel supply interruptions with good visibility of ongoing supply. Having access to both of these high quality hard rock resources plus our low cost brine position at the Salar de Atacama positions Albemarle well for global growth. Slide 17 shows our progress as our longer-term projects at the Salar de Atacama in Chile and Kings Mountain in the United States. At the Salar de Atacama, we've initiated the environmental permitting process for a commercial DLE project. While the permit evaluates up to 6 trains of DLE, I want to stress that these investments would be phased in a prudent manner, contingent on approvals and investment decisions.

Speaker #1: To date, neither operation has been disrupted by global fuel supply interruptions, with good visibility of ongoing supply. Having access to both of these high-quality hard rock resources plus our low-cost brine position at the Salarda Atacama positions Albemarle well for global growth.

Speaker #1: Slide 17 shows our progress as our longer-term projects at the Salarda Atacama in Chile and Kings Mountain at the United States. At the Salarda Atacama, we have initiated the environmental permitting process for a commercial DLE project.

Speaker #1: While the permit evaluates up to six trains of DLE, I want to stress that these investments would be phased in a prudent manner, contingent on approvals and investment decisions.

Speaker #1: Our pilot plant at Lanegra has now operated for over a year and has achieved quality and recovery targets, including greater than 94% lithium recovery.

Kent Masters: Our pilot plant at La Negra has now operated for over a year and has achieved quality and recovery targets, including greater than 94% lithium recovery. We are evaluating numerous absorbents and membranes, including proprietary and third-party technologies, and we've been able to incorporate findings from the pilot operation into our early engineering for the commercial plant. At Kings Mountain, we are currently obtaining the required permits and conducting comprehensive economic and environmental pre-development evaluations prior to making a final investment decision. The project recently received federal mining permits, a meaningful milestone, and we continue to engage with local and state entities to obtain their respective approvals. As we continue drilling and engineering work, the more we learn about Kings Mountain, the more confident we are in the long-term strategic value of this asset. We look forward to sharing our progress as there are further developments.

Speaker #1: We are evaluating numerous exorbitant and membranes, including proprietary and third-party technologies. And we've been able to incorporate findings from the pilot operation into our early engineering for the commercial plant.

Speaker #1: At Kings Mountain, we are currently obtaining the required permits and conducting comprehensive economic and environmental pre-development evaluations prior to making a final investment decision.

Speaker #1: The project recently received federal mining permits, a meaningful milestone. And we continue to engage with local and state entities to obtain their respective approvals.

Speaker #1: As we continue drilling and engineering work, the more we learn about Kings Mountain, the more confident we are in the long-term strategic value of this asset.

Speaker #1: We look forward to sharing our progress as there are further developments. To summarize, we're off to a strong start in 2026 as we continue to demonstrate operational excellence and capitalize on the secular growth opportunities supported by our in-markets across mobility, energy, connectivity, and health.

Kent Masters: To summarize, we're off to a strong start in 2026 as we continue to demonstrate operational excellence and capitalize on the secular growth opportunities supported by our end markets across mobility, energy, connectivity, and health, including the global need for long-term energy security. We are continuing to take disciplined actions to enhance our long-term competitive advantage and leveraging our strengths, including our world-class resources, expertise, and innovation to position us for sustainable growth and value creation over the long term. With that, I'll turn it over to the operator to take your questions.

Speaker #1: Including the global need for long-term energy security. We are continuing to take disciplined actions to enhance our long-term competitive advantage, and leveraging our strengths, including our world-class resources, expertise, and innovation, to position us for sustainable growth and value creation over the long term.

Speaker #1: With that, I'll turn it over to the operator to take your questions.

Speaker #2: We will now move into our Q&A portion. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 5 to raise your hand. As a reminder, that is star 5 to raise your hand.

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Operator: We will now move into our Q&A portion. If you would like to ask a question, please press star five to raise your hand. As a reminder, that is star five to raise your hand. Also, please bear in mind this Q&A session is limited to one question and one follow-up per person. Our first question comes from David Deckelbaum with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open.

Speaker #2: Also, please bear in mind this Q&A session is limited to one question and one follow-up per person. Our first question comes from David Begleiter with Deutsche Bank.

Speaker #2: Your line is now open.

Speaker #3: Thank you. Good morning. Kent, have you seen any, at this higher level of lithium pricing—have you seen any change in buyer behavior, either getting ahead of, or whatever else to deal with the higher pricing in the lithium market?

David Deckelbaum: Thank you. Good morning. Kent, at this higher level of lithium pricing, have you seen any change in buyer behavior either getting ahead of or whatever else to deal with the higher pricing in the lithium market? Thank you.

David Begleiter: Thank you. Good morning. Kent, at this higher level of lithium pricing, have you seen any change in buyer behavior either getting ahead of or whatever else to deal with the higher pricing in the lithium market? Thank you.

Speaker #3: Thank you.

Kent Masters: Thanks, David. I don't know that we've seen the real change in behavior. I mean, it is evolving, I'd have to You know, it's only been a few months, right? Since price has changed, I wouldn't say we've seen a change. The conversations may be a little different. Eric's a little closer to it, maybe you can comment.

Speaker #4: Thanks, David. So I don't know that we've seen the real change in behavior. I mean, it is evolving. So I'd have to it's only been a few months, right, since price has changed and I wouldn't say we've seen a change.

Speaker #4: The conversations may be a little different. Eric's a little closer to it. So maybe you can comment.

Speaker #3: Yes. Good morning, David. I would say that I'd substantiate what Kent said. It's fairly new. Most of the growth has been on the ESS side, as we described, in the call here.

Eric Norris: Yes. Good morning, David. I would say that I'd substantiate what Kent said. It's fairly new. Most of the growth has been on the ESS side, as we described in the call here. There's a lot of interest in the sort of the carbonate supply chain, that contrasts with EVs outside of China, which are a little weaker on the hydroxide side, you know, in terms of sentiment. All in all, though, we've got a pipeline of customers who are very interested in talking with us about, certainly, you know, spot bids, but also contracts, and we're being very cautious as we look at that in terms of, you know, how we think about what or where we wanna take that contract mix over time.

Speaker #3: There's a lot of interest in the sort of the carbonate supply chain. That contrasts with EVs outside of China, which are a little weaker on the hydroxide side.

Speaker #3: In terms of sentiment, all in all, though, we've got a pipeline of customers who are very interested in talking with us about certainly spot bids, but also contracts.

Speaker #3: And we're being very cautious as we look at that in terms of how we think about what we want to take that contract mix over time.

David Deckelbaum: Very good. Just on the DLE opportunity in Chile, any early thoughts on potential cost improvements or benefits from this route versus your, you know, traditional solar evaporation route?

David Begleiter: Very good. Just on the DLE opportunity in Chile, any early thoughts on potential cost improvements or benefits from this route versus your, you know, traditional solar evaporation route?

Speaker #5: Very good. And just on the DLE opportunity in Chile, any early thoughts on potential cost improvements or benefits from this route versus your traditional solar evaporation route?

Kent Masters: Yeah. It's more about being able to access more lithium in the Salar at the cost position we're at. It's not really a cost improvement program. It's about being able to access more lithium in the Salar under kind of the environmental conditions there.

Speaker #4: Yeah. So it's more about being able to access more lithium in the solar at the cost position we're at, rather than trying to do it.

Speaker #4: It's not really a cost improvement program. It's about being able to access more lithium in the solar under kind of the environmental conditions there.

Operator 2: Our next question comes from Patrick Cunningham with Citi. Your line is now open.

Operator: Our next question comes from Patrick Cunningham with Citi. Your line is now open.

Speaker #2: Our next question comes from Patrick Cunningham with Citi. Your line is now open.

Patrick Cunningham: Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. You know, Kent, you seem to hint, you know, the broader, you know, deployment of renewables as a result of the crisis could be a potential positive for lithium demand. I guess, is that anything that you've seen already, and how would you expect the market to respond to, you know, higher embedded risk premium in oil, you know, concerns around energy security?

Speaker #6: Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Kent, you seem to hint the broader deployment of renewables as a result of the crisis could be a potential positive for lithium demand.

Speaker #6: I guess, is that anything that you've seen already? And how would you expect the market to respond to higher embedded risk premium in oil, concerns around energy security?

Kent Masters: There's a lot there, and it's difficult to see that in the market. I mean, we think that may have an impact on both EVs but also energy storage segment, as we're calling that now. It is difficult to see, but I would say energy security and grid resiliency is probably one of the bigger drivers around that. Not sure that's about the Middle East crisis, but it's clear that's a big driver around the world.

Speaker #3: Yeah. So there's a lot there, and it's difficult to see that in the market. I mean, we think that may have an impact on both EVs, but also energy storage segment as we're calling that now.

Speaker #3: It is difficult to see. But I would say energy security and grid resiliency is probably one of the bigger drivers around that. I'm not sure that's about the Middle East crisis, but it's clear that's a big driver around the world.

Patrick Cunningham: Got it. Then just on Greenbushes, I think one of your JV partners, you know, noted some issues around grade, you know, recoveries and production stability, maybe even suggesting that they are more systemic. I guess, is this in line with your assessment, and how does it affect the ramp up at Greenbushes?

Speaker #6: Got it. And then just on green bushes, I think one of your JV partners noted some issues around grade, recoveries, and production stability, maybe even suggesting that they're more systemic.

Speaker #6: I guess, is this in line with your assessment and how does it affect the ramp-up at green bushes?

Kent Masters: Look, Greenbushes is operating in line with our expectations and the outlook considerations that we put forward. It's every year we look at all of our assets and we make a risk-adjusted forecast around that, and we're fully in line with that. The ramp of CGP3, so we started that up at the end of the year, and we expect it to ramp through this year, and I would say that ramp is on schedule. It's fully in line with our expectations and our plan.

Speaker #3: So look, green bushes is operating in line with our expectations and the outlook considerations that we put forward. So it's every year we look at all of our assets, and we make a risk-adjusted forecast around that.

Speaker #3: And we're fully in line with that. And the ramp of CGP3, so we started that up at the end of the year and we expect it to ramp through this year.

Speaker #3: And I would say that ramp is on schedule. So it's fully in line with our expectations and our plan.

Operator 2: Our next question comes from Michael Sison with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open.

Operator: Our next question comes from Michael Sison with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open.

Speaker #2: Our next question comes from Mike Sisson with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open.

[Analyst] (Wells Fargo): Hi there. This is Abigail on for Mike. Thanks for taking my question. As we look further ahead to your brownfield projects, what are the hurdle rates for these? Is there any scenario which any of these don't happen? How much capacity do you think these would add, you know, beyond 2027?

Speaker #7: Hi there. This is Abigail on for Mike. Thanks for taking my question. So as we look further ahead here, Brownfield projects, what are the hurdle rates for these?

Speaker #7: Is there any scenario which any of these don't happen? And then how much capacity do you think these would add, beyond 2027?

Kent Masters: Look, we look at it as, we are now kind of ramping investments that we've made that gets us through that profile that we showed you there. It slows down a little bit of growth into 2027. That's ramping the kind of bigger investments that we've made over time. The next phase would be those brownfield investments, and we think that gets us somewhere in the high single-digit growth rate maybe for that period of time. Those are at existing assets. That would be, for example, Greenbushes, Wodgina, and at the Salar de Atacama. We think of over time after that, we think there are more significant investments we could make on resources that we own, Kings Mountain, for example, and then further trains at the Salar de Atacama.

Speaker #3: So, look, we look at it as—so we are now kind of ramping investments that we've made that get us through that profile that we showed you there.

Speaker #3: So it slows down a little bit of growth into '27. That's ramping the kind of bigger investments that we've made over time. The next phase would be those brownfield investments.

Speaker #3: And we think that gets us a somewhere in the high single-digit growth rate, maybe for that period of time. And those are at existing assets.

Speaker #3: So that would be, for example, green bushes, Wadjena, and at the Salar de Atacama. And we think, over time after that, we think there are more significant investments.

Speaker #3: We could make on resources that we own—Kings Mountain, for example—and then further trains at the Salar de Atacama. So we have a pretty good line of sight for growth.

Kent Masters: We have a pretty good line of sight for growth. The first tranche of that would be those brownfields. The returns would be. I mean, it's hard to say what we would look for hurdle rates. It would be traditionally the way we look at that, and we'll make those decisions at the time, depending on how we see the market growth pricing, what the costs look like from those assets.

Speaker #3: And then the first tranche of that would be those brownfields. The returns would be I mean, it's hard to say what the hurt we would look for hurdle rates.

Speaker #3: It would be traditionally the way we look at that. And we'll make those decisions at the time, depending on how we see the market growth pricing, what the costs look like from those assets.

[Analyst] (Wells Fargo): Okay. Got it. Thanks. Then for the 2026, 2027 projects you're talking about requiring minimal additional CapEx, can you just get a feel for size? Give us a feel for size there. Any color you can give would be helpful. Thanks.

Speaker #7: Okay. Got it. Thanks. And then for the 2026-2027 projects, so you're talking about requiring minimal additional CapEx. Can you just get a feel for size?

Speaker #7: Give us a feel for size there. Any color you can give would be helpful. Thanks.

Kent Masters: Well, I think for 2026 and 2027, it's really just ramping up the projects that we've built and done. Probably the most significant one there would be is the full ramp of Greenbushes CGP3, then getting Wodgina operating on 3 full trains. We're operating 3 trains today, we anticipate working through a more difficult part of the mine, the quality of the resource is not as good. We expect that to improve in Q4. That's the thinking around that incremental volumes come from. Plus just the normal productivity things that we do with better recoveries, Salar yield at Salar de Atacama, for example, the project we've invested in, we're still working to get more and more out of that.

Speaker #3: Yeah. Well, I think for '26 and '27, it's really just ramping up the projects that we've built and done. Probably the most significant one there would be the full ramp of green bushes, CGP3, and then getting Wadjena operating on three full trains.

Speaker #3: We're operating three trains today, but we anticipate working through a more difficult part of the mine. So the quality of the resource is not as good.

Speaker #3: We expect that to improve in the fourth quarter. That's the thinking around that. And that's kind of where those that incremental volumes come from, plus just the normal productivity things that we do with better recoveries, solar yield, and at Salar de Atacama, for example, the project we've invested in, and we're still working to get more and more out of that.

Operator 2: Our next question comes from Joshua Spector with UBS. Your line is now open.

Operator: Our next question comes from Joshua Spector with UBS. Your line is now open.

Speaker #2: Our next question comes from Josh Spector with UBS. Your line is now open.

Christopher Perrella: Hi, good morning. It's Christopher Perrella on for Josh. Can you unpack the puts and takes to the Q1 energy storage margin? You know, given the $20 a kilogram spot price you guys experienced in Q1, I would have thought margins would be closer to 50%. Just kind of, you know, why were they so much better?

Chris Perrella: Hi, good morning. It's Christopher Perrella on for Josh. Can you unpack the puts and takes to the Q1 energy storage margin? You know, given the $20 a kilogram spot price you guys experienced in Q1, I would have thought margins would be closer to 50%. Just kind of, you know, why were they so much better?

Speaker #8: Hi. Good morning. It's Chris Perella on for Josh. Can you unpack the puts and takes to the 1Q energy storage margin? Given the $20 a kilogram spot price you guys experienced in the first quarter, I would have thought margins would be closer to 50%.

Speaker #8: So just kind of why were they so much better?

Neal Sheorey: Yeah. Hi, Chris. This is Neal. Sure, I can take that. Really, the main driver of that is the traditional lag that we see in spodumene cost and how we consume spodumene through our supply chain. Really there was a small uplift in margin because essentially we're consuming spodumene that we purchased from our mines in Q4, which was obviously a lower price than what you saw in Q1. You know, it's minimal. I think you see that our full year outlook, if you assume kind of flat pricing across the year, we've guided to energy storage potentially being in that mid 50% range.

Speaker #3: Yeah. Hi, Chris. This is Neal. Sure, I can take that. Really, the main driver of that is the traditional lag that we see in spodumene cost and how we consume spodumene through our supply chain.

Speaker #3: So really, there was a small uplift in margin because essentially we're consuming spodumene that we purchased from our mines in the fourth quarter, which was obviously a lower price than what you saw in the first quarter.

Speaker #3: But it's minimal. I think you see that our full-year outlook, if you assume kind of flat pricing across the year, we've guided to energy storage potentially being in that mid-50% range.

Neal Sheorey: There was a little bit of an uplift in Q1 due to that, but obviously that will start to normalize as we go through the year, assuming pricing stays consistent for the rest of the year. That's why we gave you guidance that we expect margins to come in a little bit in Q2 as, you know, all things being equal, assuming that that normalizes.

Speaker #3: So there was a little bit of an uplift in the first quarter due to that. But obviously, that will start to normalize as we go through the year, assuming pricing stays consistent for the rest of the year.

Speaker #3: And that's why we gave you guidance that we expect margins to come in a little bit in the second quarter as all things being equal, assuming that that normalizes.

Christopher Perrella: All right. Just as a follow-up there, the specialties outlook, you did $75 million, $76 million in Q1, EBITDA it's higher in Q2. What's causing that to drop off in your outlook in the back half of the year?

Chris Perrella: All right. Just as a follow-up there, the specialties outlook, you did $75 million, $76 million in Q1, EBITDA it's higher in Q2. What's causing that to drop off in your outlook in the back half of the year?

Speaker #8: All right. And then just as a follow-up there, the specialty's outlook, you did 75 million, 76 million in the first quarter EBITDAs, higher in the second quarter.

Speaker #8: What's causing that to drop off in your outlook in the back half of the year?

Neal Sheorey: Yeah, I can start with that, Chris. Again, it is really at this point just the uncertainty that Kent mentioned in the opening remarks. You know, right now, the visibility that we have is at least through the middle of the year, and we are driving some price and volume initiatives that give us that confidence around Q2. I think we'll continue to give you updates as we go through the year. There's obviously a lot of uncertainty around the world, of course, stemming from the situation in the Middle East, and we're just watching that very closely.

Speaker #3: Yeah. I can start with that, Chris. Again, it is really at this point just the uncertainty that Kent mentioned in the opening remarks. Right now, the visibility that we have is at least through the middle of the year.

Speaker #3: And we are driving some confidence around the second quarter. I think we'll continue to give you updates as we go through the year. There's obviously a lot of uncertainty around the world.

Speaker #3: Of course, stemming from the situation in the Middle East. And we're just watching that very closely.

Operator 2: Our next question comes from Vincent Andrews with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.

Operator: Our next question comes from Vincent Andrews with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.

Speaker #2: Our next question comes from Vincent Andrews with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.

Vincent Andrews: Thank you. Good morning. Just wanted to follow up a bit on the brownfield opportunity and just color a few things in. Kent, were you saying that, you know, these assets could potentially start up as early as 2028, or would the timeline on that be a bit longer? If you could just help us understand what the lead time would be.

Speaker #8: Thank you. Good morning. I just wanted to follow up a bit on the brownfield opportunity and just color a few things in. Kent, were you saying that these assets could potentially start up as early as 2028 or would the timeline on that be a bit longer?

Speaker #8: If you could just help us understand what the lead time would be.

Kent Masters: Yeah. While none of those none of the projects are finalized, so there are opportunities now, so I'm not sure we'd even call them projects. They're things that we've talked about and discussed over time, and we'll bring those on when we think it's the right time, right? We, obviously, a couple of those are with joint venture our joint venture projects, so we need to align with our joint venture partners as well. Somewhere in that, it's after, definitely clearly after 2027 in that timeframe, but we think that is the next leg of growth for us in that, in that phase. I say that because the bigger investments and bigger projects like Kings Mountain would be after that, right?

Speaker #3: Yeah. So well, none of the projects have been finalized. So there are opportunities now. So I'm not sure we've even called them projects. But there are things that we've talked about and discussed over time.

Speaker #3: And then we'll bring those on when we think it's the right time, right? And obviously, a couple of those are with joint venture or joint venture projects.

Speaker #3: So we need to align with our joint venture partners as well. So somewhere in that it's after we definitely clearly after '27 in that timeframe.

Speaker #3: But we think that is the next leg of growth for us in that phase. And we say that because the bigger investments and bigger projects like Kings Mountain would come up would be after that, right?

Kent Masters: It fills the gap in between those two.

Speaker #3: So it fills the gap in between those two.

Vincent Andrews: Okay. Neal, can I just ask you know, on slide 10 you talk about at 20,000 or 20 kg, the free cash flow or the operating cash flow conversion would be 60% to 70%. As prices ramp higher than that, how much of that drops down to cash flow versus how much, you know, would go up to working capital? Would we stick with the 60% to 70% range? Would it be higher than that? Would it be in the lower end of the range? How should we think about it?

Speaker #8: Okay. And Neal, can I just ask you slide 10, you talk about it at 20,000 or 20 kg. The free cash flow or the operating cash flow conversion would be 60 to 70 percent.

Speaker #8: As prices ramp higher than that, how much of that drops down to cash flow versus how much would go up to working capital? So would we stick with the 60 to 70 percent range?

Speaker #8: Would it be higher than that? Would it be in the lower end of the range? How much should we think about it?

Neal Sheorey: Vince, I think it of course always matters in the shape of how that pricing moves up. If it's a very sudden move up in pricing, particularly if it's towards the end of the year, then I would expect that our cash conversion will compress in the immediate, just because of how sharply the working capital runs up and how quickly we can get that back in terms of cash. If it's a little bit more gradual, I still think that 60% to 70% when we've done our benchmarking and our modeling, that seems to be the right place for us to be from a steady state perspective.

Speaker #3: Yeah, Vince. Look, I think, of course, always matters in the shape of how that pricing moves up. If it's a very sudden move up in pricing, particularly if it's towards the end of the year, then I would expect that our cash conversion will compress in the immediate just because of how sharply the working capital runs up.

Speaker #3: And how quickly we can get that back in terms of cash. If it's a little bit more gradual—look, I still think that 60 to 70 percent, when we've done our benchmarking and our modeling, that seems to be the right place for us to be from a steady-state perspective.

Neal Sheorey: If it is a little bit more of a ratable, kind of movement up, I would expect us to be able to still be in that range.

Speaker #3: So if it is a little bit more of a rateable kind of movement up, I would expect us to be able to still be in that range.

Operator 2: Our next question comes from Arun Viswanathan with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Operator: Our next question comes from Arun Viswanathan with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Speaker #2: Our next question comes from Aaron Viswanathan with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Arun Viswanathan: Great. Thanks for taking my question. Congrats on the strong results. Apologies if this was asked earlier, but could you discuss the reduction of output at Greenbushes, looks like it's about 10% to 15%, and how that affects kinda your own operations?

Speaker #3: Great. Thanks for taking my question, congrats on the strong results. And apologies if this was asked earlier, but did you discuss the reduction of output at Greenbush's?

Speaker #3: Looks like it's about 10 to 15 percent. And how that affects kind of your own operations?

Kent Masters: Okay. We'd said that in an earlier question. Greenbushes is operating in line with the plan that we have, right? As we look at that every year we build our plans, we look at all of our resource assets and we risk adjust those. What we've built in our plan for Greenbushes this year, the mine is operating to those plans, including the ramp of CGP3. We're on our plan for the ramp of CGP3. We started that project, the first ore at the end of 2025, and we felt like we could ramp it throughout the year. It's a schedule according to that ramp, but we should be at full capacity by the end, and we think we're on that schedule.

Speaker #8: Okay. So we'd said that in an earlier question. So Greenbush's is operating in line with the plan that we have, right? And as we look at that every year, we build our plans.

Speaker #8: We look at all of our resource assets, and we risk adjust those. And so what we've built in our plan for Greenbush's this year the mine is operating to those plans, including the ramp of CGP3.

Speaker #8: So we are on our plan for the ramp of CGP3. And it was we started at the we started that project at first or at the end of '25.

Speaker #8: And we felt like we could ramp it throughout the year. And then it's a schedule according to that ramp. But we should be at full capacity by the end.

Speaker #8: And we think we're on that schedule.

Arun Viswanathan: Okay, thanks. Then, you noted that ESS demand could be a little bit stronger, I guess. You know, we did notice kinda stronger EV demand also in the last month versus the first few months of the year. Are you seeing demand improvement? Obviously, I think you're still guiding to about flattish volume, so is there any way you can address that upside on demand if there is any? Would that be unlikely this year and potentially likely next year? How should we think about, you know, your opportunities to capture some of that extra demand, if there is any?

Speaker #3: Okay. Thanks. And then you noted that ESS demand could be a little bit stronger, I guess. And we did notice kind of stronger EV demand also in the last month versus the first few months of the year.

Speaker #3: So are you seeing demand improvement? And obviously, I think you're still guiding to about flattish volumes. So is there any way you can address that upside on demand if there is any?

Speaker #3: Or would that be unlikely this year? And potentially likely next year? How should we think about your opportunities to capture some of that extra demand if there is any?

Kent Masters: Eric can talk about it maybe in a little bit more detail, but I would just say, look, if market's growing, it is strong, but we're working through the seasonality, right? The early part of the year is always difficult to figure out what exactly is gonna happen with the Lunar New Year, and China's such a big market. That has a big impact, and we're off of that now. Demand is strong, but I'm not sure we're ready to kinda say it's at a different level.

Speaker #8: Yeah. Eric can talk about maybe a little bit more detail. But I would just say, look, if market's growing, it is strong. But we're working through the seasonality, right?

Speaker #8: The early part of the year is always difficult to figure out what exactly is going to happen with the Lunar New Year and China is such a big market.

Speaker #8: That has a big impact and we're off of that now. Demand is strong. But I'm not sure we're ready to kind of say it's at a different level.

Neal Sheorey: Yeah. On this is just to add on a demand basis, our customers, the battery companies around the world, particularly in Asia, who produce for this market, their order books are full from now through the beginning of 2027. Demand is very strong in energy storage, driven by the factors of grid reliability, renewables in various parts of the world, as well as AI and behind-the-meter storage. There's very favorable trends that are driving that kind of an outlook. Arun, this is Neal. I think you had asked about our volume growth forecast for this year, which is flat with last year. Look, underneath that volume forecast was an assumption, as Kent highlighted, about how we see our resources ramping through the year.

Eric Norris: Yeah. On this is just to add on a demand basis, our customers, the battery companies around the world, particularly in Asia, who produce for this market, their order books are full from now through the beginning of 2027. Demand is very strong in energy storage, driven by the factors of grid reliability, renewables in various parts of the world, as well as AI and behind-the-meter storage. There's very favorable trends that are driving that kind of an outlook.

Speaker #3: Yeah. So this is just to add on a demand basis. Our customers of the battery companies around the world, particularly in Asia, who produce for this market, their order books are full from now through the beginning of '27.

Speaker #3: So demand is very strong in energy storage, driven by the factors of grid reliability, renewables, and various parts of the world, as well as AI and behind-the-meter storage.

Speaker #3: So there's very favorable trends that are driving that kind of an outlook.

Neal Sheorey: Arun, this is Neal. I think you had asked about our volume growth forecast for this year, which is flat with last year. Look, underneath that volume forecast was an assumption, as Kent highlighted, about how we see our resources ramping through the year.That's one part CGP3 and the other one being the improvements that are getting driven at Wodgina. Everything is going according to our plan, which is why we're still holding onto that volume outlook. Obviously, as we go through the year, if we start to see upside, you know, we'll continue to give you updates. I think our volume growth potential is this year in particular, is really driven by how well those resources continue to move in their capacity expansion.

Speaker #8: And Arun, this is Neal. I think you had asked about our demand forecast or, sorry, our volume growth forecast for this year, which is flat with last year.

Speaker #8: Look, underneath that volume forecast was an assumption as Kent highlighted about how we see our resources ramping through the year. That's one part of CGP3.

Neal Sheorey: That's one part CGP3 and the other one being the improvements that are getting driven at Wodgina. Everything is going according to our plan, which is why we're still holding onto that volume outlook. Obviously, as we go through the year, if we start to see upside, you know, we'll continue to give you updates. I think our volume growth potential is this year in particular, is really driven by how well those resources continue to move in their capacity expansion.

Speaker #8: And the other one being the improvements that are getting driven at Wagena. Everything is going according to our plan, which is why we're still holding onto that volume outlook.

Speaker #8: But obviously, as we go through the year, if we start to see upside, we'll continue to give you updates. I think our volume growth potential is this year in particular is really driven by how well those resources continue to move in their capacity expansion.

Kent Masters: Yeah. It's about availability of product from our perspective rather than market. Market's pretty strong.

Speaker #3: Yeah. It's about availability of product from our perspective rather than market. Market's pretty strong.

Operator 2: Our next question comes from Laurence Alexander with Jefferies. Your line is now open.

Operator: Our next question comes from Laurence Alexander with Jefferies. Your line is now open.

Speaker #2: Our next question comes from Lorek Alexander with Jefferies. Your line is now open.

Laurence Alexander: Good morning. Two questions. First, can you talk a little bit about whether there's any advantages or disadvantages for you if the LFP producers need to switch to yellow phosphorus, you know, to reduce their sulfur consumption and also how higher sulfur prices are affecting your economics versus your peers. Secondly, just longer term, you know, if you do undertake something like Kings Mountain, what would you see as like the desired desirable range for your balance sheet, and what balance sheet metrics would you use as boundary conditions?

Speaker #8: So good morning. Two questions. First, can you talk a little bit about whether there's any advantages or disadvantages for you if the LFP producers need to switch to yellow phosphorus?

Speaker #8: To reduce their sulfur consumption and also how higher sulfur prices are affecting your economics versus your peers. And then secondly, just longer term, if you do undertake something like Kings Mountain, what would you see as the desired desirable range for your balance sheet?

Speaker #8: And what balance sheet metrics would you use as boundary conditions? Okay. So maybe Eric you can talk about the LFP chemistries a little bit because yeah.

Kent Masters: Okay. Maybe Eric, you can talk about the LFP chemistries a little bit because

Eric Norris: You might have to expand a little bit on your question, Lawrence. Let me answer the part of it that is clear to me and I think is important to understand. We talked in the call about raw material costs rising $70, 90 million and across the enterprise, and we have a variety of ways we're mitigating that. One of those drivers, a fairly big driver, is sulfuric acid. I don't think we are advantaged or disadvantaged versus anybody who buys sulfuric acid around the world, particularly in Asia, where a lot of the conversion activity happens for hard rock conversion. That's a cost that's affecting supply. In fact, frankly, any acid-roasted leaching process is going to be impacted by that.

Speaker #8: So maybe you might have to expand a little bit on your question Lawrence. Let me answer the part of it that is clear to me and I think is important to understand.

Speaker #8: We talked in the call about raw material costs rising 70, 90 million and across the enterprise. And we have a variety of ways. We're mitigating that.

Speaker #8: One of those drivers, a fairly big driver, is sulfuric acid. I don't think we are advantage or disadvantage versus anybody who buys sulfuric acid around the world, particularly in Asia, where a lot of the conversion activity happens for hard rock conversion.

Speaker #8: So that's a cost that's affecting supply. In fact, frankly, any acid roast and leaching process is going to be impacted by that. Your first question, I was not clear to me.

Eric Norris: Your first question was not clear to me. Maybe you could restate it.

Speaker #8: Maybe you could restate it. So just my understanding was that one way to offset the cost on sulfuric acid for the LFP producers is for them to switch to yellow phosphorus.

Laurence Alexander: My understanding was that one way to offset the cost on sulfuric acid for the LFP producers is for them to switch to yellow phosphorus. If they did, I was curious as to whether there's any issues with the contaminant profiles of the lithium from different mines. Like, I mean, my understanding is you have an advantage in terms of being able to reformulate your product, but maybe I'm just overthinking kind of the dynamics there.

Speaker #8: And that if they did, I was curious as to whether there's any issues with the contaminant profiles of the lithium from different mines. I mean, my understanding is you have an advantage in terms of being able to reformulate your product.

Speaker #8: But maybe I'm just overthinking kind of the dynamics there.

Eric Norris: Well, I think one of the advantages of those LFP producers, the cathode producers who reside almost entirely in China, that they have is their upstream capabilities to access phosphorus and various forms of it. I've had some discussions with some of these companies about how they do that. I understand any trade-offs are not impacting their ability to deliver or quality, and that's at the best I could say. If we learn more, we'll certainly share more.

Speaker #3: Well, I think one of the advantages of those LFP producers the cathode producers who reside almost entirely in China that they have is their upstream capabilities to access phosphorus in various forms of it.

Speaker #3: I've had some discussions with some of these companies about how they do that. To understand the I understand any trade-offs are not impacting their ability to deliver or quality.

Speaker #3: And that's at the best I could say if we learn more, we'll certainly share more.

Neal Sheorey: Then Lawrence, this is Neal. Maybe I can start with your question on Kings Mountain. Look, what I would say as you can see as a company, because of the, you know, extreme volatility that we've seen over the last five years, we are obviously in a position of balance sheet strength, and we are on purpose taking a conservative stance right now just because of the volatility we've seen in general. As we look at Kings Mountain, and I wanna highlight, we're nowhere near a final investment decision.

Speaker #8: And then Lawrence, this is Neal. Maybe I can start with your question on Kings Mountain. Look, what I would say as you can see as a company, because of the extreme volatility that we've seen over the last five years, we are obviously in a position of balance sheet strength.

Speaker #8: And we are on purpose taking a conservative stance right now just because of the volatility we've seen. In general. But as we look at Kings Mountain and I want to highlight, we're nowhere near a final investment decision.

Operator 2: Our next question comes from Joel Jackson with BMO Capital. Your line is now open.

Operator: Our next question comes from Joel Jackson with BMO Capital. Your line is now open.

Speaker #2: Our next question comes from Joel Jackson with BMO Capital. Your line is now open.

Joel Jackson: Hi, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. First question is, you know, you're talking about Q2 margins guidance or commentary as if, you know, spot prices hold Q1 levels. Spot prices or market prices are actually higher in Q2 than Q1. Can you talk about that? I mean, what quarter-over-quarter price increase would you need to hold Q1 margins, or how would you frame it?

Speaker #7: Hi. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. So first question is, so you're talking about Q2 margins. Guidance or commentary as if spot prices hold Q1 levels.

Speaker #7: Spot prices or market prices are actually higher in Q2 than Q1. So can you talk about that? I mean, what quarter over quarter price increase would you need to hold Q1 margins?

Speaker #7: Or how would you frame it?

Kent Masters: I think let me start, Neal, and then you can talk a little bit more in detail. I mean, look, there is You know, a portion of our volume is on contracts. We're about 40% on contracts, and there's a lag on that, right? There's typically a 3-month lag on how pricing moves through that. That will move up slightly just as we go through the quarter if prices stay where they are. We're not forecasting prices, but that's just a function of the way our contracts work. It will move up, and that will impact margin as we move forward through the quarter. It becomes more steady state as it will catch up as long as prices are flat.

Speaker #3: So I think let me start, Neal, and then you can talk a little bit more in detail. But I mean, look, there is you know a portion of our volume is on contracts.

Speaker #3: We're about 40% on contracts. And there's a lag on that, right? There's typically a three-month lag on how pricing moves through that. So that will move up slightly just as we go through the quarter.

Speaker #3: If prices stay where they are. So we're not forecasting prices, but that's just a function of the way our contracts work. So it will move up.

Speaker #3: And that will impact margin as we move forward through the quarter. Then it becomes more steady state as it will catch up as long as prices are flat.

Eric Norris: Yeah. Yeah. I just to add to that. Look, if you hold everything flat, you know, essentially to get to that higher margin that you're assuming, you know, basically from our $20 scenario to our $30 dollar scenario, everything basically scales linearly. To get to the higher margin, you have to make an assumption around just a higher price realization in Q2, all things, all other things being equal. It's really comes down to pricing.

Neal Sheorey: Yeah. Yeah. I just to add to that. Look, if you hold everything flat, you know, essentially to get to that higher margin that you're assuming, you know, basically from our $20 scenario to our $30 dollar scenario, everything basically scales linearly. To get to the higher margin, you have to make an assumption around just a higher price realization in Q2, all things, all other things being equal. It's really comes down to pricing.

Speaker #8: Yeah. Yeah. Just to add to that, look, if you hold everything flat, essentially to get to that higher margin that you're assuming, basically from our $20 scenario to our $30 scenario, everything basically scales linearly.

Speaker #8: So to get to the higher margin, you have to make an assumption around just a higher price realization in the second quarter. All things all other things being equal.

Speaker #8: So it's really comes down to pricing.

Joel Jackson: Okay. Kent and team, if I circle back to the Greenbushes question, which is, I've heard your answer a couple times now on what you're saying about Greenbushes being the plan. One of your JV partners really went public the other week and talked about safety, and it was in the prepared remarks and was very aggressive in wanting to call out to public what they feel should be happening or is happening at Greenbushes. It is a different commentary than you're giving today. Why do you think your JV partner is wanting to do that? Is this just about negotiating how the mine plan should go forward, production throughput, concentrate grades, and you have different interests being a customer of the spodumene as well? Why do you think your partner is so aggressive in the market talking about safety and Greenbushes issues?

Speaker #7: Okay. And team, if I circle back to the Greenbush's question, which is, I've heard your answer a couple of times now on what you're saying about Greenbush as being to plan.

Speaker #7: But one of your JV partners really went public the other week and talked about safety and was in the prepared remarks and was very aggressive in wanting to call out to the public what they feel should be happening or is happening at Greenbush's.

Speaker #7: It is a different commentary than you're giving today. Why do you think your JV partner is wanting to do that? Is this just about negotiating how the mine plan should go forward, production, throughput, concentrate grades, and you have different interests being a customer of the spot?

Speaker #7: I mean, as well, why do you think your partner is so aggressive in the market talking about safety and Greenbush's issues?

Kent Masters: Yeah. I guess I would Look, I'm not gonna comment on their perspective of what they're doing. I would say they're our partner's partner, right? They're as we go through that. Look, we're not happy with the safety position at the mine. We've had lots of conversations with the management team and our partners around that. We have a plan, and we're improving, and we're working toward that. Safety is not something that you move overnight. It's a long-term program. We feel that we're on the right track there, but the mine is operating to the plan that we thought they would during the year, and we don't see exceptions to that. The way we view it is that we are on plan.

Speaker #3: Yeah. So I guess I would look, I'm not going to comment on their perspective of what they're doing. I would say they're our partner's partner.

Speaker #3: Right? So as we go through that, but look, we do have we're not happy with the safety position at the mine. We've had lots of conversations with the management team and our partners around that.

Speaker #3: We have a plan. And it's improving. And we're working toward that. Safety is not something that you move overnight. It's a long-term program. We feel that we're on the right track there.

Speaker #3: But the mine is operating to the plan that we thought they would during the year. And we don't see exceptions. We don't see exceptions to that.

Speaker #3: So the way we view it is that we are on plan. The CGP3 project started up last year. And it is ramping through the year.

Kent Masters: The CGP3 project started up last year and it is ramping through the year, and we're on that ramp plan. We don't see a variance in our plan, and I can't comment on what our partner is thinking when they talk publicly.

Speaker #3: And we're on that ramp plan. So we don't see a variance in our plan. And I can't comment on what our partners are thinking when they talk publicly.

Operator 2: Our next question comes from Colin Rusch with Oppenheimer & Co. Your line is now open.

Operator: Our next question comes from Colin Rusch with Oppenheimer & Co. Your line is now open.

Speaker #2: Our next question comes from Colin Rush with Oppenheimer & Co. Your line is now open.

Colin Rusch: Thanks so much, guys. You know, as we look at some of the NDAA compliance deadlines coming up at the end or at the start of 2028, I am just curious about how you are planning to meet those, you know, and what we can think about from a CapEx perspective, if there is any to meet some of those requirements.

Speaker #8: Thanks so much, guys. As we look at some of the NDAA compliance, deadlines coming up at the start of 2028, I'm just curious about how you're planning to meet those.

Speaker #8: And what we can think about from a CAPEX perspective. If there is any to meet some of those requirements.

Kent Masters: I'm not sure I understand that question. Can you just say that again?

Speaker #3: Can you I'm not sure I understand that question. Can you just say that again?

Colin Rusch: Yeah.

Speaker #8: Yeah. I mean, so yeah. So NDAA requirements for military batteries. We're looking at having to have entire supply chains in North America. To meet some of those requirements.

Kent Masters: The requirements.

Colin Rusch: Yeah. NDAA requirements for military batteries. We're looking at having to have entire supply chains in North America to meet some of those some of those requirements. I'm just curious about your ability to meet those volumes and any CapEx plans that you have here over the next, you know, 2 years to be in line with them.

Speaker #8: I'm just curious about your ability to meet those volumes and any CAPEX plans that you have here over the next two years to be in line with them.

Kent Masters: That's a segment of the market that we would want to serve. We actually have probably the only lithium produced today in the United States comes from Silver Peak and processed at Kings Mountain. That's the only kind of pure lithium processed in the US today. We have that. It's a pretty small volume. It's not a big piece of the market, but we can serve that through other locations with allied countries like Chile as well. I mean, it is an opportunity for us, and as we look going forward to make investments, obviously Kings Mountain, the mine itself, would be one of the opportunities to serve that particular volume. I would say we're not over-indexed on it.

Speaker #3: Okay. So yeah. So we look, that's a segment of the market that we would want to serve. We actually probably the only lithium produced today in the United States comes from Silver Peak and processed at Kings Mountain.

Speaker #3: So that's the only kind of pure lithium processed in the US today. We have that. It's a pretty small volume. It's not a big piece of the market.

Speaker #3: But we can serve that through other locations with allied countries like Chile as well. So I mean, it is an opportunity for us. And as we look going forward to make investments, obviously, Kings Mountain, the mine itself would be one of the opportunities to serve that particular volume.

Speaker #3: Look, I would say we're not over-indexed on it. We think about the total market overall. But military applications in the US is definitely an opportunity for us.

Kent Masters: We think about the total market overall. Military applications in the US is definitely an opportunity for us.

Colin Rusch: Great. You know, as you look at the European demand for EVs and seeing that grow, is there any concern that there's new regulations coming out of Europe in terms of compliance around supply not being able to come from China for any of those any of those OEMs or through the EU properly from a regulatory perspective?

Speaker #8: Great. And then as you look at the European demand for EVs and seeing that grow, is there any concern that there's new regulations coming out of Europe in terms of compliance around supply not being able to come from China for any of those OEMs or through the EU properly from a regulatory perspective?

Kent Masters: I mean, there is a lot of conversation going now around critical minerals, and when we hear that, we think lithium, and around diverse supply chains, global supply chains, allied countries. That's gonna move a lot over time. From our standpoint, we have a diverse portfolio around the world, both brine and hard rock, but in a variety of different countries, and we think we'll be able to satisfy that one way or the other. If it's tighter regulation, it just makes a different opportunity for us. If it's not as tight, we have our full portfolio to work with. We see it as an opportunity, not a concern, and we just have to wait and see exactly how it plays out.

Speaker #3: Yeah. Look, I mean, so there is a lot of conversation going now around critical minerals. And when we hear that, we think lithium. But and around diverse supply chains, global supply chains, allied countries.

Speaker #3: That's going to move a lot over time. From our standpoint, we have a diverse portfolio around the world. So both brine and hard rock, but in a variety of different countries and we think we'll be able to satisfy that.

Speaker #3: One way or the other. So if it's tighter regulation, it just makes a different opportunity for us. If it's not as tight, we have our full portfolio to work with.

Speaker #3: So it's not we see it as an opportunity. Not a concern. And then we just but we have to wait and see exactly how it plays out.

Operator 2: Our next question comes from John Roberts with Mizuho. Your line is now open.

Operator: Our next question comes from John Roberts with Mizuho. Your line is now open.

Speaker #2: Our next question comes from John Roberts with Mizuho. Your line is now open.

John Roberts: Thank you. I have just one. Assuming this year plays out according to plan, where do you think your debt level should be this time next year? What would be a targeted debt level?

Speaker #7: Thank you. I have just one. Assuming this year plays out according to plan, where do you think your debt levels should be this time next year?

Speaker #7: What would be a targeted debt level?

Neal Sheorey: Yeah, John, this is Neal. Look, I mean, there's a lot of estimating and forecasting to get to that number. Look, if you, I'm sure you're doing this math on your side. If you just take flat pricing from where we are today and just run that across the end of the year, you know, we exited Q1 at 1x net debt to EBITDA. You can imagine that at these kind of prices, we'll probably trend down from there, below 1x.Obviously, like I had said before, you know, our stance right now is to be in a little bit more conservative balance sheet position and, you know, for all the volatility and uncertainty that we see in the world. That's our posture for the year.

Speaker #3: Yeah, John. This is Neal. Look, I mean, I guess that's a there's a lot of estimating and forecasting to get to that number. But look, if you I'm sure you're doing this math on your side.

Speaker #3: If you just take flat pricing from where we are today and just run that across the end of the year, we exited first quarter at one times net debt to EBITDA.

Speaker #3: And you can imagine that at these kind of prices, we'll probably trend down from there. Below one times. So obviously, like I had said before, our stance right now is to be in a little bit more conservative, balance sheet position.

Neal Sheorey: Obviously, like I had said before, you know, our stance right now is to be in a little bit more conservative balance sheet position and, you know, for all the volatility and uncertainty that we see in the world. That's our posture for the year.

Speaker #3: And for all the volatility and uncertainty that we see in the world, and that's our posture for the year.

Kent Masters: Yeah, I would just add to that. Look, we fought ourselves through a tough period, and we clearly wanna be a little more conservative as we go through that. We haven't worked out all the details around that. Our overall goal, we're building a company that will be able to work through this cycle regardless of where it goes, and that we can be opportunistic at the bottom of the cycle. That's what we're trying to do. The balance sheet is definitely a part of that strategy.

Speaker #5: Yeah. I would just I would add to that, look, we fought ourselves through a tough period. And we clearly want to be a little more conservative as we go through that.

Speaker #5: We haven't worked out all the details around that. But we're trying to overall goal, we're building a company that will be able to work through this cycle regardless of where it goes.

Speaker #5: And that we would still be can be opportunistic at the bottom of the cycle. That's what we're trying to do. The balance sheet is a is definitely a part of that strategy.

John Roberts: Thank you.

Speaker #7: Thank you.

Operator 2: Our next question comes from Kevin McCarthy with Vertical Research Partners. Your line is now open.

Operator: Our next question comes from Kevin McCarthy with Vertical Research Partners. Your line is now open.

Speaker #2: Our next question comes from Kevin McCarthy with Vertical Research Partners. Your line is now open.

Kevin McCarthy: Yeah. Thank you, and good morning. I was wondering if you could speak to the quarterly cadence of your lithium sales volumes. You're guiding flat for the year. I think in Q1 you had 53 kilotons, which was up appreciably. Looks like your comps are a little tougher in H2. Maybe you could speak to how you would foresee that flowing through in Q2 and the balance of the year.

Speaker #6: Yes, thank you, and good morning. I was wondering if you could speak to the quarterly cadence of your lithium sales volumes. You're guiding flat for the year.

Speaker #6: I think in the first quarter, you had 53 kilotons, which was up appreciably. Looks like your comps are a little tougher in the back half.

Speaker #6: So maybe you could speak to how you would foresee that flowing through in the second quarter and the balance of the year.

Neal Sheorey: Hi there, Kevin. This is Neal. I'm very happy to start. You know, the Q1 is typically our softest quarter, of course, because of Lunar New Year and just general seasonality. You should expect volumes to pick up here in the Q2 and the Q3. I would not expect our Q4 volumes to be as strong as they were last year, mainly because we had inventory reductions that we did at the end of the year as we saw that kind of strength in demand come through in the Q4. That, that's the reason why we've been guiding to this overall sort of flat volume year-over-year. It's exactly what you said. We have tougher comps on a year-over-year basis as we go through the year.

Speaker #3: Yeah. Hi there, Kevin. This is Neal. I can I'm very happy to start. So the first quarter is typically our softest quarter. Of course, because of Chinese New Year and just general seasonality.

Speaker #3: You should expect volumes to pick up here in the second quarter and the third quarter. I would not expect our fourth quarter volumes to be as strong as they were last year, mainly because we had inventory reductions that we did at the end of the year as we saw that kind of strength in demand come through in the fourth quarter.

Speaker #3: And so that's the reason why we've been guiding to this overall sort of flat volume year over year. It's exactly what you said. We have tougher comps on a year over year basis as we go through the year.

Neal Sheorey: That's why you saw some volume growth here in Q1. That was the easiest of all the comps. Those will get tougher as we go through the year just because of the elevated sales volumes that we had last year.

Speaker #3: And so that's why you saw some volume growth here in the first quarter. That was the easiest of all the comps. Those will get tougher as we go through the year just because of the elevated sales volumes that we had last year.

Kevin McCarthy: Very good. I'm tempted to ask, does Albemarle have any visibility at all into whether your lithium molecules end up in an EV versus an energy storage system? If you do have any visibility, do you care? In other words, is there any strategic or commercial effort to influence your mix in one direction or the other? How do you think about that?

Speaker #6: Very good. And then tip to ask, does Albemarle have any visibility at all into whether your lithium molecules end up in an EV versus an energy storage system?

Speaker #6: And if you do have any visibility, do you care? In other words, is there any strategic or commercial effort to influence your mix in one direction or the other?

Speaker #6: How do you think about that?

Kent Masters: I mean, we do see where it goes. I mean, it's not 100% transparent because a lot of times it's the same customers, but we have those discussions. We know where they're going. We understand order books and one versus the other because they have different profiles. I mean, I think it is important that we understand that. We think we have pretty good visibility of it. It's not perfect because it is the same customer base, but it relies on customer conversations and their transparency with us. We feel like we have a pretty good handle on that. Eric, you wanna comment on that further?

Speaker #3: So I mean, we do see where we do see where it goes. I mean, it's not 100% transparent because a lot of times it's the same customers.

Speaker #3: But we have those discussions. We know where they're going. We understand order books and one versus the other because they have different profiles. So I think it is important that we understand that.

Speaker #3: We think we have pretty good visibility of it. It's not perfect. Because it is the same customer base. But it relies on customer conversations and their transparency with us.

Speaker #3: But we feel like we have a pretty good handle on that. Eric, you want to comment on that further?

Eric Norris: No, I think that's right. I think that's right. Clearly, you know, someone buying carbonate for LFP production, that could go EV or ESS, but it comes down to the knowledge we have on the ground to be able to ascertain the difference. To the second part of your question, it does matter in that we wanna make sure we're close to understanding what's driving growth so we can plan our own capacities and approaches to the market accordingly.

Speaker #5: No, I think that's right. I think that's right. Clearly, someone buying carbonate for LFP production that could go EV or ESS. But it comes down to the knowledge we have on the ground to be able to ascertain the difference.

Speaker #5: And to the second part of your question, it does matter in that we want to make sure we're close to understanding what's driving growth so we can plan our own capacities and approaches to the market accordingly.

Operator 2: Our next question comes from Mazahir Mammadli from Rothschild.

Operator: Our next question comes from Mazahir Mammadli from Rothschild.

Speaker #2: Our next question comes from Mizahir Mamadli from Rothschild. Your line is now open.

Mazahir Mammadli: Thank you. I just wanted to ask about the lithium market. If we assume that the current market conditions persist, what kind of supply response would you expect over the coming year or so? Particularly, would you say that the current price is high enough for some of the unconventional supply that we saw in 2022, 2023 to come online? Thank you.

Speaker #7: Thank you. I just wanted to ask about the lithium market. So if we assume that the current market conditions persist, what kind of supply response would you expect over the coming year or so?

Speaker #7: And particularly, would you say that the current prices are high enough for some of the unconventional supply that we saw in 2022, 2023 to come online?

Speaker #7: Thank you.

Kent Masters: I guess first I would say it takes time almost for anything to come back, right? If you've idled capacity and you've kept it in the right shape, condition, you can bring it back in pretty short order. If you really put it in care and maintenance, it's gonna take some time. When you talk about mines, you have to think about things like yellow equipment and all of that, which is not sitting on the shelf. Even brownfield mines, it's a couple of years, if it's greenfield, it's further than that. Some of the unconventional. I don't know that we're at prices where things get a little crazy. I think also people learned a lesson in the last cycle about the nature of the market.

Speaker #3: So I guess first, I would say it takes time almost for anything to come back, right? So if you've idled capacity and you've kept it in the right shape, condition, you can bring it back in pretty short order.

Speaker #3: But if you really put it in care and maintenance, it's going to take some time. And when you talk about mines, you have to think about things like yellow equipment and all of that, which is not sitting on the shelf.

Speaker #3: And even brownfield mines, a couple of years. And if it's greenfield, it's further than that. And then some of the unconventional. I don't know that we're at prices where things get a little crazy.

Speaker #3: I think also people learned a lesson in the last cycle about the nature of the market. I don't think we're going to see a massive supply adjustment to this, at least that's not how we're thinking about it at prices where we are now.

Kent Masters: I don't think we're gonna see a massive supply adjustment to this. At least, that's not how we're thinking about it at prices where we are now. Year, year-end, if you think about a lot of the projects that were on the books and maybe even still happening, we're now getting to the point where their financial forecasts are in the market, so to speak. It's not that we've gone way above them, that we're just getting back to the numbers they were using to justify projects. I don't think you see a huge supply response.

Speaker #3: You're in. If you think about a lot of the projects that were on the books and maybe even still happening were now getting to the point where they're financial forecasts are in the market, so to speak.

Speaker #3: It's not that we've gone way above them that we're just getting back to the numbers they were using to justify projects. So I don't think you see a huge supply response.

Mazahir Mammadli: Thank you. Just a follow-up on the specialties business. The bromine price in China, if you look at the current prices, almost as high as the peak in 2022, and in 2022, this segment generated EBITDA of over half a billion. Is that a trajectory we should expect if the bromine price stays at this level, or are there other parts, moving parts that we should think about?

Speaker #7: Thank you. And just a follow-up on the specialties business. So the bromine price in China if you look at the current price is almost as high as the peak in 2022.

Speaker #7: And in 2022, this segment generated a bit of over half a billion. Is that a trajectory we should expect if the bromine price stays at this level?

Speaker #7: Or are there other parts moving parts that we should think about?

Kent Masters: Yeah. There's a bit in there. Prices, they did peak. They've actually come off fairly quickly recently. They were at a higher level, and we're below the performance level we were. We recognize that we have some operational cost issues we need to address around that, and we're working on that. We've got projects around that. I guess the other piece, and Eric can talk about this, but that bromine price you see, there's a small amount of our bromine that we sell on that basis. It is the most visible index that you can see, so I understand why you watch it.

Speaker #3: Yeah. So there's a bit in there. So prices, they did peak. They've actually come off fairly quickly recently. But they were at a higher level and we're below the performance level we were.

Speaker #3: So but we recognize that we have some operational cost issues we need to address around that. And then we're working on that. We've got projects around that.

Speaker #3: And I guess the other piece—and Eric can talk about this—but that bromine price you see, there's a small amount of our bromine that we sell on that basis.

Speaker #3: But it is the most visible index that you can see. So I understand why you watch it. We watch it as well. And it's indicative in the market.

Kent Masters: We watch it as well, and it's indicative in the market, but it's actually a very small part of our bromine that we sell on that index.

Speaker #3: But it's actually a very small part of our bromine that we sell on that index.

Eric Norris: Yeah. If you look at, just to add to Kent's comment, Eric Norris speaking. As you look at our overall specialty sales, which of course includes lithium specialties and bromine specialties, it's 20% or less of our sales that are exposed to that kind of index, which is prevalent in China for upstream bromine. If you go around the world, regional markets behave differently. If you go down our value chain into derivatives, there you're going to get more of a specialty chemical type approach to pricing. It does vary. The pricing this year has been driven, we believe, by what has been a lot of anxiety at the beginning of the year around supply. We had our own issues at JVC, which we resolved quickly. You have the Middle East crisis, which has created anxiety.

Speaker #5: Yeah. If you look at just to add to Ken's comment there speaking, as you look at our overall specialty sales, which of course includes lithium specialties and bromine specialties, it's 20% or less of our sales that are exposed to that kind of index, which is prevalent in China for upstream bromine.

Speaker #5: If you go around the world, regional markets behave differently. If you go down our value chain into derivatives, there you're going to get more of a specialty chemical type approach to pricing.

Speaker #5: So it does vary. And the pricing this year has been driven, we believe, by what has been a lot of anxiety at the beginning of the year around supply.

Speaker #5: But we had our own issues at JBC, which we've resolved quickly. You have the Middle East crisis, which has created anxiety. In the midst of that, we've been able to position ourselves as a very reliable and diversified global supplier.

Eric Norris: In the midst of that, we've been able to position ourselves as a very reliable and diversified global supplier. That's helped us on the one hand, but on the other, as the Chinese seasonal production comes on, that has led to some price easing in China too. This all comes back to the question on the H2 of the year and our visibility that Neal answered the question on earlier. This is why we're a little cautious, but those are the factors that have contributed to what we're seeing right now in bromine.

Speaker #5: That's helped us on the one hand. But on the other, as the Chinese seasonal production comes on, that has led to some price easing in China too.

Speaker #5: So this all comes back to the question on the second half of the year and our visibility that Neal answered the question on earlier.

Speaker #5: So this is why we're a little cautious. But those are the factors that have contributed to what we're seeing right now in bromine.

Mazahir Mammadli: Very helpful. Thank you.

Speaker #7: Ralph, thank you.

Operator 2: Our next question comes from Steve Byrne with Bank of America. Your line is now open.

Operator: Our next question comes from Steve Byrne with Bank of America. Your line is now open.

Speaker #2: Our next question comes from Rick Hoffman with Bank of America. Your line is now open.

Steve Byrne: Thank you. I understand not wanting to take a view on near-term market pricing, but just with current, Chinese spot near $27 per kg, is there upside to that $20 per kg, market scenario guide if pricing stays at current levels? Maybe just on the other side of the market balance equation, how would you assess any near-term supply shocks, either in, Zimbabwe, Jiangxi province, or elsewhere?

Rock Hoffman: Thank you. I understand not wanting to take a view on near-term market pricing, but just with current, Chinese spot near $27 per kg, is there upside to that $20 per kg, market scenario guide if pricing stays at current levels? Maybe just on the other side of the market balance equation, how would you assess any near-term supply shocks, either in, Zimbabwe, Jiangxi province, or elsewhere?

Speaker #8: Thank you. I understand not wanting to take a view on near-term market pricing. But just with current Chinese spot near $27 per kg, is there upside to that $20 per kg market scenario guide if pricing stays at current levels?

Speaker #8: And maybe just on the other side of the market balance equation, how would you assess any near-term supply shocks either in Zimbabwe or Jiangxi province or elsewhere?

Kent Masters: Yeah. I guess the first one, if I understood the question, it's a pretty easy answer. If the Chinese price stays at 27, there's upside to our $20 forecast. I think the answer to that is yes. There's not a lot I don't think I'm taking a lot of risk in saying that. The supply, I mean, what's happening, look, there's a in and out moving. I think you're always gonna have that in supply in the lithium when you're coming. There's African resources. Zimbabwe is, we don't see that as a supply that comes off long term. I think that's a short-term issue. Probably call it a negotiating position, if you will.

Speaker #3: Yeah. So I guess I think the first one, if I understood the question, it's a pretty easy answer if the Chinese price stays at $27, there's upside to our $20 forecast.

Speaker #3: I think the answer to that is yes. There's not a lot. I don't think I'm taking a lot of risk in saying that. And the supply, I mean, what's happening, there's a in-and-out moving.

Speaker #3: I think you're always going to have that in supply in the lithium when you're coming. There's African resources. Zimbabwe is we don't see that as a supply that comes off long-term.

Speaker #3: I think that's a short-term issue, probably call it a negotiating position, if you will. So it has taken some product off the market. But we see it coming back in months or quarters.

Kent Masters: It has taken some product off the market, but we see it coming back in months or quarters as part of that. The lepidolite in China is a little more difficult to call. Some of those have been offline, and offline for quite some time, almost going on a year for the CATL mine, I think. We understand that to be more about permitting rather than like operations, that still has to play out. I don't think we can answer that. I don't think this is, like, an extraordinary thing. This is gonna happen in the lithium world, where supply comes in and out on a regular basis.

Speaker #3: As part of that, the lipidolide in China is a little more difficult to call. Some of those have been offline. And offline for quite some time, almost going on a year for the CATL mine, I think.

Speaker #3: We understand that to be more about permitting. Rather than operations. But then that still has to play out. I don't think we can I don't think we can answer that.

Speaker #3: But I don't think this is like an extraordinary thing. This is what's going to happen. This is going to happen in the lithium world, where supply comes in and out on a regular basis.

Kent Masters: The market is big enough now to where, you know, five years ago, a mine coming off like Zimbabwe or a couple mines would've been massive. The market is big enough now to where it influences, but it's not a huge supply shock.

Speaker #3: The market is big enough now to where five years ago, a mine coming off like Zimbabwe or a couple of mines would have been massive.

Speaker #3: The market is big enough now to where it is influences. But it's not a huge supply shock.

Steve Byrne: Understood. Just as a follow-up, any updated views on the two major contracts which roll off at the end of this year? More broadly, how should we think about potential shifts of that product mix, from the current 60% spot, 40% contracted?

Rock Hoffman: Understood. Just as a follow-up, any updated views on the two major contracts which roll off at the end of this year? More broadly, how should we think about potential shifts of that product mix, from the current 60% spot, 40% contracted?

Speaker #8: Understood. And just as a follow-up, any updated views on the two major contracts which roll off at the end of this year? And more broadly, how should we think about potential shifts of that product mix from the current 60% spot, 40% contracted?

Kent Masters: Yeah. We don't have anything to update on those. I mean, and this is kind of business as usual as we've done these. We have conversations with our customers, and then we tend to adjust as we go through the year. But we have nothing, no update on those particular contracts at the moment. Eric, anything?

Speaker #3: Yeah. So we don't have anything to update on those. I mean, and this is kind of business as usual as we've done these. We have conversations with our customers.

Speaker #3: And then we will we tend to adjust as we go through the year. But we have nothing no update on those particular contracts at the moment.

Eric Norris: Nope. The business as usual, we continue to evaluate a path forward with those customers. We also have a pipeline of many others who are prospective contract customers, and we're evaluating the terms and whether those meet our objectives, and we'll update you when we have a better view of that towards the end of the year.

Speaker #3: Eric, anything?

Speaker #5: Nope. No. Business as usual. We continue to evaluate a path forward with those customers. We also have a pipeline of many others who are prospective contract customers.

Speaker #5: And we're evaluating the terms and whether those meet our objectives, and we'll update you when we have a better view of that towards the end of the year.

Kent Masters: Yeah, we're always talking about contracts with our customers. You could imagine the conversations are different today than they were a year ago, just because of where the market is. We continue to talk to them, and we don't have any updates on that, but we will provide them once we have some clarity.

Speaker #3: Yeah. And we're always talking about contracts with our customers. And you can imagine the conversations are different today than they were a year ago.

Speaker #3: Just because of where the market is. So it's but we continue to talk to them. And we don't have any updates on that. But we will provide them once we have some clarity.

Operator 2: Thank you. That's all the time we have for questions. I will now pass it back to Kent Masters for closing remarks.

Operator: Thank you. That's all the time we have for questions. I will now pass it back to Kent Masters for closing remarks.

Speaker #2: Thank you. That's all we all the time we have for questions. I will now pass it back to Kent Masters for closing remarks.

Kent Masters: Thank you, operator, and thank you everyone for joining us today. We've managed through a challenging period and actively positioned the company for future growth and resilience. As we look ahead, I'm deeply optimistic about our company's trajectory. Our team is dedicated to delivering operational excellence and sustainable growth, and our efforts are bearing fruit. Together, we will continue to leverage our competitive strengths and world-class resources and process chemistry expertise to capitalize on the opportunities created by the energy transition. I look forward to sharing more milestones and successes with you in the coming quarters. Thank you.

Speaker #3: Thank you, operator. And thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We've managed through a challenging period and actively positioned the company for future growth and resilience.

Speaker #3: As we look ahead, I'm deeply optimistic about our company's trajectory. Our team is dedicated to delivering operational excellence and sustainable growth. And our efforts are bearing fruit.

Speaker #3: Together, we will continue to leverage our competitive strengths and world-class resources and process chemistry expertise to capitalize on the opportunities created by the energy transition.

Speaker #3: I look forward to sharing more milestones and successes with you in the coming quarters. Thank you.

Operator 2: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

Operator: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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