Q3 2026 Kennametal Inc Earnings Call

May 6, 2026

Speaker #1: Good morning. I would like to welcome everyone to KENNAMETAL's Q3 Fiscal 2026 Earnings Conference Call. Today, all lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise.

Operator: Good morning. I would like to welcome everyone to Kennametal's Q3 Fiscal 2026 Earnings Conference Call. Today, all lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After today's speaker remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star then number 1 on your telephone keypad. If your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw it, please press star then number 2. Please note that today's event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Michael Pici, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Speaker #1: After today's speaker remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star, then the number 1 on your telephone keypad.

Speaker #1: If your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw it, please press star, then the number 2. Please note that today's event is being recorded.

Speaker #1: I would now like to turn the conference over to Michael Piecy, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Operator. Welcome, everyone, and thank you for joining us to review KENNAMETAL's third quarter fiscal 2026 results. This morning, we issued our earnings press release and posted our presentation slides on our website.

Michael Pici: Thank you, operator. Welcome, everyone, and thank you for joining us to review Kennametal's Q3 fiscal 2026 results. This morning, we issued our earnings press release and posted our presentation slides on our website. We will be referring to that slide deck throughout today's call. I'm Michael Pici, Vice President of Investor Relations. Joining me on the call today are Sanjay Chowbey, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Patrick Watson, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. After Sanjay and Patrick's prepared remarks, we will open the line for questions. At this time, I'd like to direct your attention to our forward-looking disclosure statement. Today's discussion contains comments that constitute forward-looking statements and, as such, involve a number of assumptions, risks, and uncertainties that could cause the company's actual results, performance, or achievements to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by such statements.

Speaker #2: We will be referring to that slide deck throughout today's call. I'm Michael Piecy, Vice President of Investor Relations. Joining me on the call today are Sanjay Chowbey, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Pat Watson, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

Speaker #2: After Sanjay and Pat's prepared remarks, we will open the line for questions. At this time, I'd like to direct your attention to our forward-looking disclosure statement.

Speaker #2: Today's discussion contains comments that constitute forward-looking statements, and as such, involve a number of assumptions, risks, and uncertainties that could cause the company's actual results performance or achievements to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by such statements.

Speaker #2: These risk factors and uncertainties are detailed in KENNAMETAL's SEC filings. In addition, we will be discussing non-GAAP financial measures on the call today. Reconciliations to GAAP financial measures that we believe are most directly comparable can be found at the back of the slide deck and in our Form 8K on our website.

Michael Pici: These risk factors and uncertainties are detailed in Kennametal's SEC filings. In addition, we will be discussing non-GAAP financial measures on the call today. Reconciliations to GAAP financial measures that we believe are most directly comparable can be found at the back of the slide deck and in our Form 8-K on our website. With that, I'll turn the call over to Sanjay.

Speaker #2: And with that, I'll turn the call over to Sanjay.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Mike. Good morning, and thank you for joining us. I will begin with an overview of the quarter. Including end-market commentary, followed by a discussion on unit volume trends.

Sanjay Chowbey: Thank you, Mike. Good morning, and thank you for joining us. I will begin with an overview of the quarter, including end market commentary, followed by a discussion on unit volume trends. Pat will cover the quarterly financial results and the fiscal year 2026 outlook, along with an early look at fiscal 2027. I'll make some summary comments, and then we'll open the line for questions. Turning to slide 3. Let me begin by addressing some of the highlights from our strong third quarter. Our global commercial teams continued to advance our strategic growth initiatives. The Infrastructure team delivered solid growth.

Speaker #3: From there, Pat will cover the quarterly financial results, and the fiscal year 26 outlook. Along with an early look at fiscal 27. Finally, I'll make some summary comments and then we'll open the line for questions.

Speaker #3: Turning to slide 3, let me begin by addressing some of the highlights from our strong third quarter. Our global commercial teams continued to advance our strategic growth initiatives.

Speaker #3: The infrastructure team delivered solid growth. In construction, we saw volume growth from strong product performance and the advantage we have as a secure source of tungsten in a tight supply environment.

Sanjay Chowbey: In construction, we saw volume growth from strong product performance and the advantage we have as a secure source of tungsten in a tight supply environment. Additionally, we received large orders in our defense business, further securing ongoing growth in this market as we head into fiscal 27. In Metal Cutting, we continue to increase our share of wallet with key accounts, especially in aerospace and defense, and build upon our momentum in energy from AI power generation initiatives. In general engineering, we have been winning new customers through targeted promotional campaigns and improvement to our digital customer experience, especially for our small to medium-sized customers. As you know, we continue to prioritize above-market growth as a strategic imperative. These wins position us well in our key end markets. Turning now to the broader tungsten environment.

Speaker #3: Additionally, we received large orders in our defense business. Further securing ongoing growth in this market as we head into fiscal 27. In metal cutting, we continued to increase our share of wallet with key accounts.

Speaker #3: Especially in aerospace and defense. And built upon our momentum in energy from AI power generation initiatives. In general engineering, we have been winning new customers through targeted promotional campaigns and improvements to our digital customer experience.

Speaker #3: Especially for our small- to medium-sized customers. As you know, we continue to prioritize above-market growth as a strategic imperative, and these wins position us well in our key end markets.

Speaker #3: Turning now to the broader tungsten environment. Prices continued their unprecedented increase throughout the quarter, rising from approximately $900 per metric ton to $3,000 as the supply of material continued to be constrained.

Sanjay Chowbey: Prices continued their unprecedented increase throughout the quarter, rising from approximately $900 per metric ton to $3,000 as the supply of material continued to be constrained. This tungsten price and supply environment have created both challenges and opportunities. On the challenges front, we have seen a highly competitive market for material, but our supply chain has held up relatively well. We have, and will continue, to implement pricing actions in response to these rising tungsten costs and remain confident in our ability to secure that price. We are also focused on managing the working capital and balance sheet implications of higher tungsten costs. In terms of opportunities, our vertical integration has been a real strength in this market, providing us better supply chain control and flexibility compared to some competitors.

Speaker #3: This tungsten price and supply environment have created both challenges and opportunities. On the challenges front, we have seen a highly competitive market for material.

Speaker #3: But our supply chain has held up relatively well. We have and will continue to implement pricing actions in response to these rising tungsten costs.

Speaker #3: And remain confident in our ability to secure that price. We are also focused on managing the working capital and balance sheet implications of higher tungsten costs.

Speaker #3: In terms of opportunities, our vertical integration has been a real strength in this market, providing us better supply chain control and flexibility compared to some competitors.

Speaker #3: For example, as competitors are turning away orders, or extending lead times, we are well positioned to capture business that is aligned with our strategic priorities.

Sanjay Chowbey: For example, as competitors are turning away orders or extending lead times, we are well-positioned to capture business that is aligned with our strategic priorities. During the quarter, we capitalized on these opportunities in each of our business segments, specifically Earthworks within Infrastructure and aerospace and defense in Metal Cutting. These new opportunities also facilitate shaping our product portfolio away from lower margin to higher margin solutions. As such, we are seeing a unique combination of 3 factors that are opening the door to sales opportunities. First, continued market recovery. Second, solid execution on our strategic growth initiatives. Third, a window of opportunity from the current tungsten market, which is likely to persist in the near term. Given those dynamics, we are prioritizing our time and attention on growth opportunities over restructuring initiatives in the near term.

Speaker #3: During the quarter, we capitalized on these opportunities in each of our business segments. Specifically, Earthworks, within infrastructure, and aerospace and defense in metal cutting.

Speaker #3: These new opportunities also facilitate shaping our product portfolio away from lower-margin to higher-margin solutions. As such, we are seeing a unique combination of three factors.

Speaker #3: That are opening the door to sales opportunities. First, continued market recovery. Second, solid execution on our strategic growth initiatives. And third, a window of opportunity from the current tungsten market, which is likely to persist in the near term.

Speaker #3: Given those dynamics, we are prioritizing our time and attention on growth opportunities. Over-restructuring initiatives in the near term. And we are shifting the timeline for facility closure actions we had previously planned to complete in fiscal 27.

Sanjay Chowbey: We are shifting the timeline for facility closure actions we had previously planned to complete in fiscal FY27. We will provide additional detail on the restructuring timeline as appropriate. Even with that shift, we are still targeting approximately $110 million in savings from cost takeout actions by the end of fiscal FY27, which is $10 million above what we outlined at Investor Day. Now let's move to our quarterly results, which once again exceeded our sales and EPS outlook. Compared to outlook, sales were mostly driven by increased price realization and better than expected volume in both segments. EPS benefited from the additional price raw timing of $0.09, positive volume, and lower than anticipated tax rate. Year over year, sales increased 19% organically.

Speaker #3: We will provide additional detail on the restructuring timeline as appropriate. Even with that shift, we are still targeting approximately $110 million in savings from cost takeout actions by the end of fiscal 27.

Speaker #3: Which is $10 million above what we outlined at Investor Day. Now, let's move to our quarterly results, which once again exceeded our sales and EPS outlook.

Speaker #3: Compared to outlook, sales were mostly driven by increased price realization and better-than-expected volume in both segments. EPS benefited from the additional price raw timing of 9 cents, positive volume, and lower-than-anticipated tax rate.

Speaker #3: Year over year, sales increased 19% organically. Please note this was our third consecutive quarter of organic growth. Driven by additional price realization, strategic growth initiatives, and continued recovery in several end markets.

Sanjay Chowbey: Please note, this was our third consecutive quarter of organic growth, driven by additional price realization, strategic growth initiatives, and continued recovery in several end markets. Adjusted EPS increased to $0.77 compared to $0.47 in the prior year quarter. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 20.8% compared to 17.9% in the prior year quarter. Cash from operating activities year to date was $70 million compared to $130 million in the prior year period. Free Operating Cash Flow year to date was $18 million compared to $63 million in the prior year. Free Operating Cash Flow was adversely impacted by increased working capital requirements related to tungsten prices. Finally, we returned $15 million to shareholders through dividends. As it relates to our outlook, today we're raising our sales and EPS outlook for FY26.

Speaker #3: Adjusted EPS increased to 77 cents compared to 47 cents in the prior year quarter. And adjusted EBITDA margin was 20.8% compared to 17.9% in the prior year quarter.

Speaker #3: Cash from operating activities year to date was $70 million, compared to $130 million in the prior year period. Pre-operating cash flow year to date was $18 million, compared to $63 million in the prior year.

Speaker #3: Free cash flow was adversely impacted by increased working capital requirements, related to tungsten prices. Finally, we returned $15 million to shareholders through dividends. As it relates to our outlook, today we are raising our sales and EPS outlook for fiscal 26.

Speaker #3: This update reflects the additional price due to the continuing rise in tungsten and additional volume. Pat will provide more details on our updated outlook shortly.

Sanjay Chowbey: This update reflects the additional price due to the continued rise in tungsten and additional volume. Pat will provide more details on our updated outlook shortly. In summary, we are pleased with this quarter's results and how the team is navigating these unique business conditions. As I mentioned, there are opportunities and challenges in this market, and we remain focused on delivering on our commitments throughout FY26 and setting ourselves up for a successful FY27. Let's turn to slide four for an end market update. As a reminder, our full year outlook reflects forecasts of specific market drivers and general market conditions. The top half of this slide reflects our sales outlook at the midpoint and includes price, volume, and market factors.

Speaker #3: In summary, we are pleased with this quarter's results. And how the team is navigating these unique business conditions. As I mentioned, there are opportunities and challenges in this market.

Speaker #3: And we remain focused on delivering on our commitments through our fiscal 26 and successful fiscal 27. Now let's turn to slide four for an end market update.

Speaker #3: As a reminder, our full-year outlook reflects forecasts of specific market drivers and general market conditions. The top half of this slide reflects our sales outlook at the midpoint.

Speaker #3: And includes price, volume, and market factors. My comments will focus on the bottom half of the slide and address transportation and energy. Which are the only end markets that changed since our last call.

Sanjay Chowbey: My comments will focus on the bottom half of the slide and address transportation and energy, which are the only end markets that changed since our last call. IHS estimates for transportation slightly improved from the previous estimate, up in the low single-digit range, mostly driven by improvements in Asia Pacific market. Energy improved slightly relative to our prior outlook as customer sentiment improved. The tone is now cautiously optimistic, which is an improved stance compared to what customers were previously signaling. Turning to slide 5. As we have talked about over the last several years, customer activity rates and our sales volumes have been below the pre-COVID peak. I wanna take some time to provide insight into unit volume and how those trends have improved over the last few quarters. This chart uses units sold volume and excludes the impact of price and foreign exchange.

Speaker #3: IHS estimates for transportation slightly improved from the previous estimate. Up in the low single-digit range, mostly driven by improvements in Asia-Pacific market. Energy improved slightly relative to our prior outlook as customer sentiment improved.

Speaker #3: The tone is now cautiously optimistic. Which is an improved stance compared to what customers were previously signaling. Turning to slide five, as we have talked about over the last several years, customer activity rates and our sales volumes have been below the pre-COVID peak.

Speaker #3: I want to take some time to provide insight into unit volume and how those trends have improved over the last few quarters. This chart uses units sold volume and excludes the impacts of price and foreign exchange.

Speaker #3: It also excludes infrastructure defense sales as these are lumpy and not tied to industrial production metrics. Now let me spend a moment on what is driving the volume recovery.

Sanjay Chowbey: It also excludes Infrastructure defense sales, as these are lumpy and not tied to industrial production metrics. Let me spend a moment on what is driving the volume recovery, and just as importantly, why we believe it is sustainable. As the call-out indicates, we are now experiencing the second consecutive quarter of year-over-year trailing 12-month unit volume growth. Despite a macro backdrop that has been uneven, volumes are strengthening in the Americas and Asia Pacific. EMEA continues to lag, and that is consistent with what we are seeing in PMI and industrial production data. A key driver continues to be aerospace and defense, which remains strong across both Metal Cutting and Infrastructure. Importantly, this strength is not simply tied to OEM build rates, which are still roughly 20% below pre-COVID levels, but rather to share gains and deeper penetration with tier suppliers.

Speaker #3: And just as importantly, why we believe it's sustainable. As the callout indicates, we are now experiencing the second consecutive quarter of year-over-year trailing 12-month unit volume growth.

Speaker #3: Despite a macro backdrop that has been uneven, volumes are strengthening in the Americas and Asia-Pacific. But EMEA continues to lag, and that is consistent with what we are seeing in PMI and industrial production data.

Speaker #3: A key driver continues to be aerospace and defense, which remains strong across both metal-cutting and infrastructure. Importantly, this strength isn't simply tied to OEM build rates.

Speaker #3: Which are still roughly 20% below pre-COVID levels. But rather to share gains and deeper penetration with tier suppliers. That gives us confidence that it is still additional runway as production rates normalize over time.

Sanjay Chowbey: That gives us confidence there is still additional runway as production rates normalize over time. We're also starting to see early signs of stabilization in general engineering and energy, even while headline indicators remain soft. In energy, power generation continues to see meaningful momentum, and while US land rig counts are still about 30% below pre-COVID levels, we are seeing enough stabilization to suggest we are past the trough. In Infrastructure, Earthworks has delivered volume gains for 2 consecutive quarters, driven by share gains. Stepping back, if you look at the chart, global volumes are now up approximately 3% from the Q1 FY26 trough, following 36 months of stagnant industrial production. Our performance is not just the result of a market recovery. It's shaped by where we compete, how we allocate resources, and where we are winning share.

Speaker #3: We are also starting to see early signs of stabilization in general engineering and energy. Even while headline indicators remain soft. In energy, power generation continues to see meaningful momentum.

Speaker #3: And while US land rate counts are still about 30% below pre-COVID levels, we are seeing enough stabilization to suggest we are past the trough.

Speaker #3: In infrastructure, earthworks, has delivered volume gains for two consecutive quarters driven by share gains. Stepping back, if you look at the chart, global volumes are now up approximately 3% from the Q1 fiscal 26 trough.

Speaker #3: Following 36 months of stagnant industrial production, our performance is not just the result of a market recovery. It's shaped by where we compete, how we allocate resources, and where we are winning share.

Speaker #3: We know we operate in cyclical end markets. But we are quite confident in the long-term growth potential of these markets and our ability to capture share within them.

Sanjay Chowbey: We know we operate in cyclical end markets, but we are quite confident in the long-term growth potential of these markets and our ability to capture share within them. Now let me turn the call over to Pat, who will review the Q3 financial performance and the outlook.

Speaker #3: Now let me turn the call over to Pat, who will review the third quarter financial performance and the outlook. Thank you, Sanjay. And good morning, everyone.

Patrick Watson: Thank you, Sanjay Chowbey, and good morning, everyone. I will begin on slide 6 with a review of our Q3 operating results. Sales were up 22% year-over-year, with an organic increase of 19% and favorable foreign currency exchange of 5%, which was slightly offset when adjusting for the divestiture we concluded last year. Sales volume in the quarter was up low single digits. At the segment level, organic sales increased 30% in Infrastructure and 12% in Metal Cutting. On a constant currency basis, Americas sales increased 27%, Asia Pacific sales increased 25%, and EMEA was up 2%. The sales performance this quarter exceeded the expectations we provided last quarter on higher sales volumes from better market conditions and share capture. We also had higher than expected price, primarily in Infrastructure, from the continued rapid increase in tungsten prices.

Speaker #3: I will begin on slide six with a review of our Q3 operating results. Sales were up 22% year-over-year, with an organic increase of 19% in favorable foreign currency exchange of 5%, which was slightly offset when adjusting for the divestiture we concluded last year.

Speaker #3: Sales volume in the quarter was up low single digits. At the segment level, organic sales increased 30% in infrastructure and 12% in metal cutting.

Speaker #3: On a constant currency basis, America's sales increased 27%, Asia-Pacific sales increased 25%, and EMEA was up 2%. The sales performance this quarter exceeded the expectations we provided last quarter on higher sales volumes from better market conditions and share capture.

Speaker #3: We also had higher-than-expected price, primarily in infrastructure, from the continued rapid increase in tungsten prices. By end market, on a constant currency basis, earthworks grew 43%, energy increased 28%, aerospace and defense grew 23%, general engineering grew 14%, and transportation increased 1%.

Patrick Watson: By end market, on a constant currency basis, Earthworks grew 43%, energy increased 28%, aerospace and defense grew 23%, general engineering grew 14%, and transportation increased 1%. I will provide more color when reviewing the segment performance in a moment. adjusted EBITDA and operating margins were 20.8% and 13.8% respectively versus 17.9% and 10.3% in the prior year quarter.

Speaker #3: I will provide more color when reviewing the segment performance in a moment. Adjusted EBITDA and operating margins were 20.8% and 13.8% respectively, versus 17.9% and 10.3% in the prior year quarter.

Speaker #3: The margin increase was driven by favorable price raw of 39 million dollars within the infrastructure segment, pricing and tariff surcharges in metal cutting, increased sales and production volumes, and year-over-year restructuring benefits, a 7 million dollars.

Patrick Watson: The margin increase was driven by favorable price raw of $39 million within the Infrastructure segment, pricing and tariff surcharges in Metal Cutting, increased sales and production volumes, and year-over-year restructuring benefits of $7 million. These are partially offset by higher compensation costs, which are mostly performance-based, tariffs and general inflation, and a prior year benefit from an Advanced Manufacturing tax credit of approximately $8 million that did not repeat in the current year. Adjusted earnings per share was $0.77 in the quarter versus $0.47 in the prior year period. The main drivers of our EPS performance are highlighted on the bridge on slide 7. The year-over-year effective operations this quarter was +$0.36.

Speaker #3: These are partially offset by higher compensation cuts, which are mostly performance-based, tariffs and general inflation, and a prior year benefit from an advanced manufacturing tax credit of approximately 8 million dollars that did not repeat in the current year.

Speaker #3: Adjusted earnings per share was 77 cents in the quarter versus 47 cents in the prior year period. The main drivers of our EPS performance are highlighted on the bridge on slide seven.

Speaker #3: The year-over-year effective operations this quarter was positive 36 cents. This reflects approximately 39 million dollars of favorable timing of price raw material costs, price and tariff surcharges in metal cutting, higher sales and production volume, and incremental restructuring benefits of 7 million dollars.

Patrick Watson: This reflects approximately $39 million of favorable timing of price raw material costs, price and tariff surcharges in Metal Cutting, higher sales and production volume, and incremental restructuring benefits of $7 million. These are partially offset by higher compensation costs, tariffs, general inflation, and higher raw material costs in Metal Cutting. There was a headwind of $0.08 related to the net prior year manufacturing tax credit. You can also see the $0.02 of transaction gains related to preferential Bolivia exchange rates. Currency, other, and pension impacts offset each other. Slides eight and nine detail the performance of our segments this quarter. Reported Metal Cutting sales were up 18% compared to the prior year quarter, with 12% organic growth and favorable foreign currency exchange of 6%.

Speaker #3: These are partially offset by higher compensation costs, tariffs, general inflation, and higher raw material costs in metal cutting. There was a headwind of 8 cents related to the net prior year manufacturing tax credit.

Speaker #3: You can also see the 2 cents of transaction gains related to preferential Bolivia exchange rates. Currency, other and pension impacts offset each other. Slides eight and nine detail the performance of our segments this quarter.

Speaker #3: Reported metal cutting sales were up 18% compared to the prior year quarter, with 12% organic growth and favorable foreign currency exchange of 6%. Regionally, excluding currency exchange, Asia-Pacific increased 18%, the Americas increased 17%, and EMEA increased 3%.

Patrick Watson: Regionally, excluding currency exchange, Asia Pacific increased 18%, the Americas increased 17%, and EMEIA increased 3%. Looking at sales by end market on a constant currency basis, aerospace and defense increased 27% year-over-year due to improved build rates in Americas and easing supply chain pressures in EMEIA, combined with our global focus on deeper market penetration. Energy grew 17% this quarter from data center power generation wins. General engineering increased 13% year-over-year due to price, volume gains in Asia Pacific, and stronger distribution sales in the Americas. Lastly, transportation increased 1% year-over-year due to price and market softness, primarily in EMEIA. Metal Cutting adjusted operating margin of 11.2% increased 160 basis points year-over-year, primarily due to higher price and tariff surcharges, higher sales and production volumes, and incremental year-over-year restructuring savings of approximately $5 million.

Speaker #3: Looking at sales by end market on a constant currency basis, aerospace and defense increased 27% year-over-year due to improved build rates in Americas and easing supply chain pressures in EMEA combined with our global focus on deeper market penetration.

Speaker #3: Energy grew 17% this quarter from data center, power generation wins, general engineering increased 13% year-over-year due to price, volume gains in Asia-Pacific, and stronger distribution sales in the Americas.

Speaker #3: And lastly, transportation increased 1% year-over-year due to price and market softness primarily in EMEA. Metal cutting adjusted operating margin of 11.2% increased 160 basis points year-over-year primarily due to higher price and tariff surcharges, higher sales and production volumes, and incremental year-over-year restructuring savings of approximately 5 million dollars.

Speaker #3: These factors were partially offset by higher compensation, tariffs, and general inflation, and higher raw material costs. Turning to slide nine for infrastructure. Reported infrastructure sales increased 29% year-over-year, with organic growth of 30% and favorable foreign currency exchange of 4% partially offset by a divestiture effect of negative 5%.

Patrick Watson: These factors were partially offset by higher compensation, tariffs and general inflation, and higher raw material costs. Turning to slide 9 for Infrastructure. Reported Infrastructure sales increased 29% year-over-year, with organic growth of 30% and favorable foreign currency exchange of 4%, partially offset by a divestiture effect of -5%. Regionally, on a constant currency basis, America sales increased 42%, Asia Pacific increased 35%, and EMEIA sales were flat. Looking at sales by end market on a constant currency basis, Earthworks increased 43% from higher demand in construction, as we were able to provide product to customers who are unable to source product from other players and share gain in underground mining. Energy increased 34%, mainly driven by price. General Engineering increased 18% due to price and higher powder demand in Asia Pacific, partially offset by lower demand in EMEIA.

Speaker #3: Regionally, on a constant currency basis, Americas sales increased 42%, Asia-Pacific increased 35%, and EMEA sales were flat. Looking at sales by end market on a constant currency basis, Earthworks increased 43% from higher demand in construction as we were able to provide product to customers who were unable to source product from other players, and share gain in underground mining.

Speaker #3: Energy increased 34%, mainly driven by price, general engineering increased 18% due to price and higher powder demand in Asia-Pacific, partially offset by lower demand in EMEA.

Speaker #3: And lastly, aerospace and defense increased 17% due to defense orders driven by continued focus on growth initiatives and timing in the Americas. Adjusted operating margin increased 680 basis points year-over-year to 18.3% primarily from the favorable timing of pricing compared to raw material costs of 39 million dollars and year-over-year restructuring savings of 2 million dollars.

Patrick Watson: Lastly, aerospace and defense increased 17% due to defense orders driven by continued focus on growth initiatives and timing in the Americas. Adjusted operating margin increased 680 basis points year-over-year to 18.3%, primarily from the favorable timing of pricing compared to raw material costs of $39 million and year-over-year restructuring savings of $2 million. These items were partially offset by higher compensation costs and a prior year manufacturing tax credit of $8 million that did not repeat in the current year. Turning to slide 10 to review our Free Operating Cash Flow and balance sheet. Our Q3 year-to-date net cash flow from operating activities was $70 million, compared to $130 million in the prior year period.

Speaker #3: These items were partially offset by higher compensation costs and a prior year manufacturing tax credit of 8 million dollars that did not repeat in the current year.

Speaker #3: Now, turning to slide 10 to review our free operating cash flow and balance sheet. Our third quarter year-to-date net cash flow from operating activities was 70 million dollars compared to 130 million dollars in the prior year period.

Speaker #3: This change was driven primarily by higher working capital from higher tungsten prices and increased volumes of tungsten to secure our supply chain. Our third quarter year-to-date free operating cash flow decreased to 18 million dollars from 63 million dollars in the prior year primarily due to the increased primary working capital changes I just referenced, partially offset by lower capital expenditures.

Patrick Watson: This change was driven primarily by higher working capital from higher tungsten prices and increased volumes of tungsten to secure our supply chain. Our Q3 year-to-date free operating cash flow decreased to $18 million from $63 million in the prior year, primarily due to the increased primary working capital changes I just referenced, partially offset by lower capital expenditures. On a dollar basis, year-over-year, primary working capital increased to $819 million from $654 million. On a percentage of sales basis, primary working capital increased to 32.4%. It's important to note that from both an earnings and cash flow perspective, the business is operating as it normally would when the price of tungsten rises.

Speaker #3: On a dollar basis, year-over-year, primary working capital increased to 819 million dollars from 654 million dollars. On a percentage of sales basis, primary working capital increased to 32.4%.

Speaker #3: It's important to note that from both an earnings and cash flow perspective, the business is operating as it normally would when the price of tungsten rises.

Speaker #3: In periods of rising tungsten prices, we always experience favorable price raw timing effects in sales and earnings while we experience headwinds to cash flow as primary working capital grows based on tungsten valuation.

Patrick Watson: In periods of rising tungsten prices, we always experience favorable price raw timing effects in sales and earnings, while we experience headwinds to cash flow as Primary Working Capital grows based on tungsten valuation. What is unique about the current circumstance is the magnitude of the rise in tungsten prices. In no recent time have we experienced a nine-fold increase. Due to the uncertain nature of tungsten pricing and the corresponding pressure it has placed on working capital, we once again made the decision not to repurchase shares. Net capital expenditures decreased to $52 million, compared to $67 million in the prior year quarter. In total, we returned $15 million to shareholders through dividends. Inception to date, we have repurchased $70 million or 3 million shares under our $200 million authorization.

Speaker #3: What is unique about the current circumstances is the magnitude of the rise in tungsten prices. In no recent time have we experienced a nine-fold increase.

Speaker #3: Due to the uncertain nature of tungsten pricing and the corresponding pressure it has placed on working capital, we once again made the decision not to repurchase shares.

Speaker #3: Net capital expenditures decreased to 52 million dollars compared to 67 million dollars in the prior year quarter. In total, we returned 15 million dollars to shareholders through dividends.

Speaker #3: Inception to date, we have repurchased 70 million dollars or 3 million shares under our 200 million dollar authorization. We remain committed to returning cash to shareholders while executing our strategy to drive growth and margin improvement.

Patrick Watson: We remain committed to returning cash to shareholders while executing our strategy to drive growth and margin improvement. We continue to maintain a healthy balance sheet and debt maturity profile. At quarter end, we had ample liquidity to support the business with combined cash and revolver availability of approximately $742 million. As always, we remain well within our financial covenants. The full balance sheet can be found on slide 16 in the appendix. Now, on slide 11 regarding our full-year outlook. We now expect FY26 sales to be between $2.33 and 2.35 billion, with volume ranging from 2% to 3%, net price and tariff surcharge combined of approximately 16%, We anticipate an approximate 2% tailwind from foreign exchange.

Speaker #3: We continue to maintain a healthy balance sheet and debt maturity profile. At quarter end, we had ample liquidity to support the business with combined cash and revolver availability of approximately 742 million dollars.

Speaker #3: And as always, we remain well within our financial covenants. The full balance sheet can be found on slide 16 in the appendix. Now, on slide 11 regarding our full year outlook.

Speaker #3: We now expect FY26 sales to be between 2.33 and 2.35 billion dollars with volume ranging from 2 to 3 percent, net price and tariff surcharge combined of approximately 16%, and we anticipate an approximate 2% tailwind from foreign exchange.

Speaker #3: The increased outlook reflects additional pricing actions related to the increase in cost of tungsten since our February call. Specifically, within the fourth quarter, we expect net price and tariff surcharges combined of approximately 35% compared to the prior year quarter.

Patrick Watson: The increased outlook reflects additional pricing actions related to the increase in cost of tungsten since our February call. Specifically, within Q4, we expect net price and tariff surcharges combined of approximately 35% compared to the prior year quarter. We now expect adjusted EPS in the range of $3.75 to $4. This outlook includes approximately $2.45 related to the timing of price raw benefit due to the rise in tungsten prices, the significant majority of which affects the Infrastructure segment. This effect increased $1.50 from the prior outlook. On the cash side, the full-year outlook for capital expenditures is now anticipated to be approximately $85 million.

Speaker #3: We now expect adjusted EPS in the range of $3.75 to $4.00. This outlook includes approximately $2.45 related to the timing of price raw benefit due to the rise in tungsten prices, the significant majority of which affects the infrastructure segment.

Speaker #3: This effect increased $1.50 from the prior outlook. On the cash side, the full year outlook for capital expenditures is now anticipated to be approximately 85 million dollars.

Speaker #3: And free operating cash flow is expected to be approximately negative 30% of adjusted net income reflecting the working capital pressure from the rise in cost of tungsten as discussed earlier.

Patrick Watson: Free operating cash flow is expected to be approximately -30% of adjusted net income, reflecting the working capital pressure from the rise in cost of tungsten, as discussed earlier. It is important to note our outlook does not include any effects from the conflict in the Middle East. The other assumptions in our outlook are noted on the slide. While it is earlier than normal, I would like to take a moment to provide a bit of a framework to help you think about FY27. First off, our current assumption is that tungsten prices will remain elevated for some period of time going forward. That implies there will be significant carryover pricing given the 35% price expectation for Q4. This carryover pricing will diminish as FY27 progresses since we would fully lap it in Q4.

Speaker #3: It's important to note our outlook does not include any effects from the conflict in the Middle East. The other assumptions in our outlook are noted on the slide.

Speaker #3: While it is earlier than normal, I would like to take a moment to provide a bit of a framework to help you think about FY27.

Speaker #3: First off, our current assumption is that tungsten prices will remain elevated for some period of time going forward. That implies there will be significant carryover pricing given the 35% price expectation for the fourth quarter.

Speaker #3: This carryover pricing will diminish as FY27 progresses since we would fully lap it in the fourth quarter. Keep in mind that this assumption holds price at the fourth quarter level.

Patrick Watson: Keep in mind that this assumption holds price at the Q4 level. We would expect price raw timing benefits in a flat tungsten environment will continue through the H1 of FY27, with the bulk of the benefit occurring in the Q1. Outside of tungsten, we would expect normal cost inflation going into FY27. We would see performance-based compensation reset to target, providing a $20 million tailwind. We will also see additional savings from restructuring continuous improvement of $10 million. We will provide the rest of the details, including market expectations for FY27 on our call in August. Back to you, Sanjay.

Speaker #3: Also, we would expect price raw timing benefits in a flat tungsten environment will continue through the first half of FY27 with the bulk of the benefit occurring in the first quarter.

Speaker #3: Outside of tungsten, we would expect normal cost inflation going into FY27. However, we would see performance-based compensation reset the target, providing a $20 million tailwind.

Speaker #3: We will also see additional savings from restructuring continuous improvement of 10 million dollars. We will provide the rest of the details including market expectations for FY27 on our call in August.

Speaker #3: Back to you, Sanjay.

Speaker #1: Thank you, Pat. Turning to slide 12, let me take a few minutes to summarize. We have delivered three strong quarters so far in fiscal 26.

Sanjay Chowbey: Thank you, Pat. Turning to slide 12. Let me take a few minutes to summarize. We have delivered 3 strong quarters so far in fiscal 2026, driven by price and modest improvements in various end markets, project wins on the commercial side, and productivity and cost improvement actions. Going forward, we will remain focused on the strategic growth initiatives and lean transformation we have underway, while also exploring ways to strengthen our portfolio over time. Additionally, we will continue to actively manage our tungsten supply chain. In summary, we remain confident in our plan for long-term value creation for shareholders. With that, operator, please open the line for questions.

Speaker #1: Driven by price and modest improvements in various end markets. Project wins on the commercial side, and productivity and cost improvement actions. Going forward, we will remain focused on the strategic growth initiatives and lean transformation we have underway.

Speaker #1: While also exploring ways to strengthen our portfolio over time. Additionally, we will continue to actively manage our tungsten supply chain. And in summary, we remain confident in our plan for long-term value creation for shareholders.

Speaker #1: With that, operator, please open the line for questions.

Speaker #2: Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, please press star then the number one on your telephone keypad.

Operator: Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. Today's first question comes from Stephen Volkmann with Jefferies. Please proceed.

Speaker #2: If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star, then the number two. We will now pause momentarily to assemble our roster. And today's first question comes from Steve Volkman with Jefferies.

Speaker #2: Please proceed.

Speaker #3: Morning, Steve.

Patrick Watson: Morning, Steve.

Speaker #4: Hi. Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Can we just start with what do you think, Pat? What was the incremental margin on the volume in the quarter?

Stephen Volkmann: Hi. Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Can we just start with, what do you think, Pat, what was the incremental margin on the volume in the quarter?

Speaker #3: Yeah, I think the volume incremental margin was pretty normal for us, Steve. I think there's a couple of things obviously in the quarter that are kind of masking that because we've got some big numbers being thrown around.

Patrick Watson: Yeah. I think the volume incremental margin was pretty normal for us, Steve. I think there's a couple things obviously in the quarter that are kind of masking that because we've got some big numbers being thrown around there. Obviously, you got the $39 million worth of price raw timing benefit coming through. You know, in the prior year, we had that $8 million Advanced Manufacturing Investment Credit. I'd say the third component there that's just unusual for us is variable compensation. Last year, you know, we would have been on the low side of accruing for variable compensation. This year, given performance, we're a bit on the high side. You know, in the quarter, that's like an $18 million number there in and of itself. Of course, you have some benefits coming through from restructuring.

Speaker #3: They're obviously you got the 39 million dollars worth of price raw timing benefit coming through. In the prior year, we had that 8 million dollar advanced manufacturing tax credit.

Speaker #3: And then I'd say the third component there that's just unusual for us is variable compensation. So last year, we would have been on the low side of accruing for variable compensation.

Speaker #3: This year, given performance, we're a bit on the high side. In the quarter, that's like an 18 million dollar number there. In and of itself.

Speaker #3: And then, of course, you have some benefits coming through for restructuring. But when you pull all that back, volume leverage is pretty normal for the business.

Patrick Watson: When you pull all that back, volume leverage is pretty normal for the business.

Speaker #4: Okay. And then it sounds like you've adjusted price. You obviously have a big forecast for the fiscal fourth quarter. Are we where we need to be today in terms of price or will there be more price that sort of flows through in the fourth quarter and maybe even later into the summer?

Stephen Volkmann: Okay. It sounds like you've adjusted price. You obviously have a big forecast for the fiscal Q4. Are we where we need to be today in terms of price, or will there be more price that sort of flows through in Q4 and maybe even later into the summer?

Speaker #3: Yeah, Steve, this is Sanjay. As you know, this is a very dynamic situation that we are managing. And we'll continue to monitor how that moves.

Sanjay Chowbey: Yeah. Steve, this is Sanjay. As you know, this is a very dynamic situation that we are in a managing. We'll continue to monitor how that moves. As, you know, even the last call, you know, you talked about that how it was moving on a daily basis, hourly basis. That's why, you know, we will just tell you that we are looking at different market variables. Our, definitely our goal here is to fully offset the cost, implication of tungsten.

Speaker #3: As even the last call, you talked about how it was moving on a daily basis, hourly basis. So that's why we will just tell you that we are looking at different market variables.

Speaker #3: And definitely, our goal here is to fully offset the cost implication of tungsten.

Speaker #4: We will just add that we did put price in here in the market. Various states by region, but effectively, in the April-May timeframe.

Patrick Watson: I would just add to that, Steve.

Stephen Volkmann: Okay.

Patrick Watson: We did put price in here in the market, you know, you know, various states by region, but effectively, in the April-May timeframe.

Speaker #5: April-May. Okay. All right. Thank you, guys.

Stephen Volkmann: April-May. Okay. All right. Thank you, guys.

Speaker #2: And the next question comes from Steven Fisher with UBS. Please proceed.

Operator: The next question comes from Steven Fisher with UBS. Please proceed.

Speaker #3: Morning, Steve.

Patrick Watson: Hi, Steve.

Speaker #5: Thanks. Thanks. Good morning and congrats on managing all the complexities here. Just to follow up on that last question, just curious about the differences between metal cutting and infrastructure.

Steven Fisher: Thanks. Thanks. Good morning, and congrats on managing all the complexities here. Just to follow up on that last question, just curious about the differences between Metal Cutting and Infrastructure. I know with Infrastructure it does tend to be fairly quick to capture that pricing. I'm just curious to confidence that you can really fully pass on the price increases within the Metal Cutting, you know, and what the frequency of timing you can put that through. You know, essentially, you know, are the customers that are going to these distributors, are they really seeing a 35% increase on the shelf there from these products? Just curious if there's any real differences there in dynamics between Metal Cutting and Infrastructure.

Speaker #5: I know with infrastructure, it does tend to be fairly quick to capture that pricing. I'm just curious to confidence that you can really fully pass on the price increases within the metal cutting and what the frequency of timing you can put that through.

Speaker #5: Essentially, are the customers that are going to these distributors really seeing a 35% increase on the shelf there from these products? Just curious if there's any real differences there in dynamics between metal cutting and infrastructure.

Speaker #3: Yeah, sure, Steve. I think first of all, like in the past, we have talked about the metal cutting is a list price business. And also when you look at the material flow, there is more lag in that.

Sanjay Chowbey: Yeah, sure, Steve. I think first of all, like, in past we have talked about the Metal Cutting is a list price business. Also when you look at the material flow, you know, there is more lag in that, you know. Infrastructure sees that first. Based on the different product, you know, we also have, like, different content of how much tungsten is used. That will reflect. You know, when you look at the growth numbers, sales growth numbers, you know, by different end markets within the different, you know, like, segments, you know, you will see in some cases very, very high number. Many cases, you know, those are driven by the higher content of tungsten. We have, you know, in Infrastructure, many customers who are on the index price basis, but many others are not.

Speaker #3: But infrastructure sees that first. And based on the different product, we also have different content of how much tungsten is used. So that will reflect when you look at the growth numbers, sales growth numbers by different end markets within the different segments.

Speaker #3: You will see in some cases very, very high number. Many cases, those are driven by the higher content of tungsten. So we have in infrastructure, many customers who are on the index price basis, but many others are not.

Speaker #3: And we do move relatively quicker on infrastructure pricing. In metal cutting, there's a three- to six-month lag generally. And then, based on the list price change, we implement that.

Sanjay Chowbey: We do move relatively quicker on Infrastructure pricing. In Metal Cutting, you know, there's a 3 to 6 month lag generally. Based on, you know, the list price change, you know, we implement that.

Speaker #4: Okay. And then maybe just a little more color on what you're seeing in energy and how you see that evolving for the next few months.

Steven Fisher: Okay. Maybe just a little more color on what you're seeing in energy and how you see that evolving for the next few months? Just curious what you are hearing from your customers there, and is that something you're preparing for kind of a bit more of a ramp-up?

Speaker #4: Just curious what you are hearing from your customers there. And is that something you're preparing for kind of a bit more of a ramp-up?

Speaker #3: Yeah. On the energy, I'll divide the question into two pieces here. First is the AI power generation-related energy demands. Which we see more so in the metal cutting side.

Sanjay Chowbey: Yeah. On the energy, I'll divide the question into two pieces here. First is the, you know, AI power generation related energy demands, which we see more so in the Metal Cutting side. Definitely, as you know, there's a lot of industrial activities driven around the world, but a lot in the US also. We are very well positioned with our, you know, innovative solutions, application support, and custom solutions, you know, for our customers, and we are doing pretty good job in winning share there. I do believe that that will continue. As you have seen in the, you know, even this quarter report, you know, we talk about that quite a bit.

Speaker #3: Definitely, as you know, there's a lot of industrial activities driven around the world. But a lot in the US also. And we are very well positioned with our innovative solutions, application support, and custom solutions for our customers.

Speaker #3: And we are doing pretty good job in winning share there. And I do believe that that will continue. And as you have seen in even this quarter report, we talk about that quite a bit.

Speaker #3: When it comes to the other side of energy, which is more or less, let's say, oil and gas, it will definitely touch a little bit of metal cutting, but a lot more in the infrastructure side.

Sanjay Chowbey: When it comes to the other side of energy, which is more or less, let's say, in oil and gas, it will definitely touch a little bit Metal Cutting, but a lot more in the Infrastructure side. As we talked about it, there is a little bit of optimistic, you know, view, but it's cautiously optimistic view. The rig count projection right now has gone from 527 to 532. If you look in the market, you know, there are two camps. You know, there are people who are saying that there will be a lot more investment coming up here, and there are people who are saying that, you know, this is temporary and things like that. Our overall conclusion based on what we see, the trough is behind us, and we should see some steady improvement going forward.

Speaker #3: As we talked about it, that there is a little bit of optimistic view, but it's cautiously optimistic view. The rig count projection right now has gone from 527 to 532.

Speaker #3: But if you look at a market, there are two camps. There are people who are saying that there will be a lot more investment coming up here.

Speaker #3: And there are people who are saying that this is temporary and things like that. But our overall conclusion based on what we see the trough is behind us and we should see some steady improvement going forward.

Speaker #4: Thank you very much.

Steven Fisher: Thank you very much.

Speaker #2: And our next question is from Julian Mitchell with Barclays. Please proceed.

Operator: Our next question is from Julian Mitchell with Barclays. Please proceed.

Speaker #4: All right, Julian.

Patrick Watson: Hi, Julian.

Speaker #6: Hi, good morning. Hey. Just maybe a first question just to try and clarify the tungsten-related sort of tailwind to EPS. I think you said 245 for fiscal 26 in aggregate in the fourth quarter.

Julian Mitchell: Hi. Good morning. Hey, just maybe a first question just to try and clarify the tungsten related sort of tailwind to EPS. I think you said $2.45 for FY26 in aggregate. In Q4, is it around $1.75? Is that roughly the right math? Just wanted to check that.

Speaker #6: Is it around $1.75? Is that roughly the right math? Just wanted to check that.

Speaker #4: Yeah, I think if you kind of back into that, Julian, we had about an EPS terms about 16 cents, I think, in Q2, 39 cents here in Q3.

Patrick Watson: Yeah. I think if you kind of back into that, Julian, we had about in EPS terms, about $0.16, I think in Q2, $0.39 here in Q3, you just force the rest out of Q4.

Speaker #4: And so you could just force the rest out of Q4.

Speaker #6: That's great. Thank you, Pat. And then maybe Pat, help us understand those moving parts around the sort of cash flow, year-ending leverage, when you might look to resume the share repurchase program.

Julian Mitchell: That's great. Thank you, Pat. Then, maybe, Pat, help us understand those moving parts around the sort of cash flow, year-ending leverage, you know, when you might look to resume the share repurchase program. You know, help us understand what that free cash flow in the Q4 is looking like and, you know, how quickly does it sort of reverse following that based on where tungsten is today?

Speaker #6: Help us understand what that free cash flow in the fourth fiscal quarter is looking like, and how quickly does it sort of reverse following that, based on where tungsten is today.

Speaker #4: Yep. So I would think think about it this way. And we talk about this from a how does the cost structure lag? From an income statement perspective, that obviously the balance sheet's following that too.

Patrick Watson: Yep. I would think, you know, think about it this way, and we talk about this from a, you know, how does the cost structure lag from an income statement perspective. That, obviously, the balance sheet's following that too. As tungsten has ramped, we're gonna continue to see inventory build on a valuation basis here, you know, in the Q4. That's really what's driving that, you know, negative Free Operating Cash Flow for the full year. As that kind of builds up, you know, we would anticipate you get about a quarter or two out, again, from a change in tungsten, we would kind of get flat-lined. The business would then move back to its normal, you know, pattern in terms of its cash generation ability.

Speaker #4: So as tungsten has ramped, we're going to continue to see inventory build on a valuation basis here. In the fourth quarter, that's really what's driving that negative free operating cash flow for the full year.

Speaker #4: And so as that kind of builds up, we would anticipate you get about a quarter or two out, again, from a change in tungsten.

Speaker #4: We would kind of get flatlined. The business would then move back to its normal pattern in terms of its cash generation ability. Obviously, as I said, kind of in the scripted remarks here, the magnitude of what we're dealing with here is just significantly larger than what we've seen in the past, right?

Patrick Watson: Obviously, as I said kind of in the scripted remarks here, the magnitude of what we're dealing with here is just significantly larger than what we've seen in the past, right? Think about that from a share repurchase perspective. Look, you know, we've been very committed to returning cash to shareholders through the dividend program as well as through our repurchase program. You know, our desires have been, at a minimum, to offset dilution from equity compensation programs. We just fundamentally think that's good housekeeping. You know, in the current environment, you know, what would we wanna see to really resume that? We'd really wanna see some stabilization and clarity about where tungsten is headed. You know, our obvious thesis here at the moment is that tungsten should be relatively stable. You know, that being said, it's a very dynamic marketplace today.

Speaker #4: Think about that from a share repurchase perspective. Look, we've been very committed to returning cash to the shareholders through the dividend program as well as through our repurchase program.

Speaker #4: Our desires have been at a minimum to offset dilution from equity compensation programs. We just fundamentally think that's good housekeeping. And then the current environment, what would we want to see to really resume that?

Speaker #4: We really want to see some stabilization and clarity about where tungsten is headed. Our obvious thesis here at the moment is that tungsten should be relatively stable.

Speaker #4: That being said, it's a very dynamic marketplace today.

Speaker #6: That's great. Thank you.

Julian Mitchell: That's great. Thank you.

Speaker #2: The next question is from Steve Barger with KeyBank Capital Markets. Please proceed.

Operator: The next question is from Steve Barger with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed.

Speaker #4: Morning, Steve.

Patrick Watson: Hi, Steve.

Speaker #2: And Steve, you may be muted on your side.

Operator: Steve, you may be muted on your side.

Speaker #4: Yep. Sorry. Thanks. Hey, Pat. You talked about good activity in aerospace and defense and some share gains in infrastructure and earthworks. But at the same time, I think you said some competitors are turning away orders.

Steve Barger: Yep, sorry. Thanks. Hey, Pat. You talked about good activity in aerospace and defense and some share gains in Infrastructure and Earthworks. At the same time, I think you said some competitors are turning away orders, presumably on price cost. Can you talk about what you think is happening with pre-buy and just, you know, people scrambling to get product due to inflation and then, you know, how does that map to the longer term durability of share gains?

Speaker #4: Presumably on price-cost. So can you talk about what you think is happening with pre-buy and just people scrambling to get product due to inflation and then how does that map to the longer-term durability of share gains?

Speaker #3: Yeah. Steve, this is Sanjay. I'll take that first. First of all, we did see some pre-buy, but it was mostly in the Infrastructure's Earthworks Construction business.

Sanjay Chowbey: Hey, Steve, this is Sanjay. I'll take that first. First of all, we did see some pre-buy, but it was mostly in the Infrastructure Earthworks construction business. Beyond that, there was not much material impact on pre-buys in the rest of the business. We did see opportunities also in the Earthworks business within Infrastructure and also in aerospace and defense in Metal Cutting, where we did see some evidence where we were able to capture where competitors were not able to either provide proper lead time or even just meet the demand. That's how we saw that. Does that answer your question?

Speaker #3: Beyond that, there was not much material impact on pre-buys in the rest of the business. We did see opportunities also in the earthworks business within infrastructure and also in aerospace and defense, in metal cutting, where we did see some evidence where we were able to capture where competitors were not able to either provide proper lead time or even just meet the demand.

Speaker #3: So that's how we saw that. Does that answer your question?

Speaker #4: I think so. Just so I'm clear, why do you think the competitors are not able to meet demand right now?

Steve Barger: I think so. Just so I'm clear, why do you think the competitors are not able to meet demand right now?

Speaker #3: Yeah. What we have seen some competitors definitely having problem in getting raw material. And even if they're getting raw material, they're also pretty booked.

Sanjay Chowbey: Yeah. Well, we have seen some competitors are definitely having problem in getting raw material. Even if they're getting raw material, they are also pretty booked, and they are, you know, putting longer lead times. In some cases, you know, we are able to provide a better lead time, and that's how we got it.

Speaker #3: And they're putting longer lead times. So in some cases, we are able to provide a better lead time. And that's how we got it.

Speaker #4: I would say that I mean, the opportunity, obviously, there, Steve, is that there is short-term disruption in the marketplace that gives us an opportunity to, quote, "win business" that maybe we wouldn't normally have seen the same opportunities on.

Patrick Watson: I would say that, I mean, the opportunity obviously there, Steve, is that there is short-term disruption in the marketplace. That gives us an opportunity to quote and win business that maybe we wouldn't normally have seen the same opportunities on. The opportunity for us and the challenge to our sales organization, quite frankly, is to convert that to permanent long-term share capture.

Speaker #4: And the opportunity for us and the challenge to our sales organization, quite frankly, is to convert that to permanent long-term share capture.

Speaker #3: Yeah. I think yeah, one more thing is, Steve, I will add to that. I think for investors who maybe are listening to us first time, I do want to mention that this situation that we have with tungsten is not driven by higher demand.

Sanjay Chowbey: Yeah.

Patrick Watson: is what we're going for here.

Sanjay Chowbey: Yeah. One more thing, Steve, I will add to that. I think, you know, for investors who may be, you know, listening to us first time, I do wanna mention that this situation that we have with tungsten is not driven by higher demand. It is driven by supply constraints. As in past, you know, you have seen some of the times tungsten went up. At the same time, oil and gas and some of the other industry which confines a lot of tungsten went up. This time, it is because of supply constraint and also export controls. Just simply, in a big portion of market, there is less supply right now.

Speaker #3: It is driven by supply constraints. As in past, you have seen some of the times tungsten went up. At the same time, oil and gas and some of the other industry, which consumes a lot of tungsten, went up.

Speaker #3: This time, it is because of supply constraints and also export controls. So, just simply, in a big portion of the market, there is less supply right now.

Speaker #4: Yeah. Understood. That actually is a good segue to my next question. If I heard you right, you're slowing facility closures and last quarter you expected restructuring savings of $125 million.

Steve Barger: Yeah. Understood. That actually is a good segue to my next question. If I heard you right, you're slowing facility closures, last quarter, you expected restructuring savings of $125 million, now that's $110 million. Are those two things related? If so, why, maybe I missed it. Why are you slowing facility closure?

Speaker #4: Now, that's $110 million. Are those two things related? And if so, maybe I missed it. Why are you slowing facility closure?

Speaker #3: Yeah, very good question. As we said in the prepared remarks—and I will clarify that a little bit more—obviously, we are seeing right now more growth opportunities.

Sanjay Chowbey: Yeah, very good question. As we said in the prepared remarks, and I will clarify that a little bit more, obviously, you know, we are seeing right now more, you know, growth opportunities, which is driven by all three factors: market improving, then also in a share gain through our routine strategic growth initiatives that we have talked about it in past. On top of that, you know, and window of opportunity from the tungsten situation. We look at how we can create the best value for all our stakeholders, and we feel right now that allocating more resources on growth opportunities and, you know, driving our, you know, routine business leverage will create more shareholder value for now. That's how we are, you know, making the shift. However, we're not stopping the work on footprint optimization.

Speaker #3: And which is driven by all three factors: market improving, then also share gain through our routine strategic growth initiatives that we have talked about in the past.

Speaker #3: And on top of that, in window-up opportunity from the tungsten situation. So we look at how we can create the best value for all our stakeholders.

Speaker #3: And we feel right now that allocating more resources on growth opportunities and driving our routine business leverage will create more shareholder value for now.

Speaker #3: And that's how we are making the shift. However, we're not stopping the work on footprint optimization. We'll continue to work on it. Timeline will shift a little bit.

Sanjay Chowbey: We'll continue to work on it. Timeline will shift a little bit. We'll come back and give you more information on that at appropriate time.

Speaker #3: We'll come back and give you more information on that at appropriate time.

Speaker #4: Got it. Thank you.

Steve Barger: Got it. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Our next question is from Tammy Zachariah with JP Morgan. Please proceed.

Operator: Our next question is from Tami Zakaria with JPMorgan. Please proceed.

Speaker #5: Hey, good morning. Thank you so much. First question is on tariffs. I think AIPA got struck down. Do you expect to file any refunds?

Tami Zakaria: Hey, good morning. Thank you so much. First question is on tariffs. I think IEEPA got struck down. Do you expect to file any refunds? If so, what amount of refund would you expect to collect?

Speaker #5: And if so, what kind of what amount of refund would you expect to collect?

Speaker #3: Yeah. Tammy, morning. First of all, as you know, this is also one of the very dynamic situations. We still have tariffs in place. And so we are not taking any hasty action on this yet.

Sanjay Chowbey: Yeah, Tami. Morning. First of all, as you know, this is also one of the very dynamic situation. We still have, you know, tariffs in place, and so we are not, you know, taking any hasty action on this yet. I think we'll continue to you know, monitor, and based on that, you know, we'll make decisions. Nothing more to share at this point in, you know, today's call.

Speaker #3: I think we're continuing to monitor. And based on that, we'll make decisions. So nothing more to share at this point in today's call.

Speaker #5: Understood. That's fair. And my second question is, for the fourth quarter, just wanted to clarify, do you expect volume growth to be in that 2 to 3 percent full-year range?

Tami Zakaria: Understood. That's fair. My second question is for Q4, just wanted to clarify, do you expect volume growth to be in that 2% to 3% full-year range, or it could come in above that?

Speaker #5: Or it could come in above that?

Speaker #3: Yes. It's the full-year range.

Sanjay Chowbey: Yes, it's the full-year range.

Patrick Watson: Yeah, I would say it's depending on where you're at in that range, Tami, it's gonna be low to, like, the high end, maybe up into the mid-single digits. You obviously factor in 35% price we talked about from a script perspective. You know, don't forget we had a divestiture in the prior year, and you got a little bit of FX in there as well. That kind of is the math there in terms you think about the top line. I would emphasize, you know, as we just think about, you know, the profitability, you know, that obviously we're going to see sequentially profitability step up pretty significantly here based on that price cost.

Speaker #4: Yeah. I would say it's on what you depending on where you're at in that range, Tammy, it's going to be low to the high end, maybe up into the mid-single digits.

Speaker #4: You obviously factor in 35% price we talked about from a script perspective. Don't forget, we had a divestiture in the prior year. And you got a little bit of that facts in there.

Speaker #4: As well. So that kind of is the math there in terms you think about the top line. I would emphasize, as we just think about the profitability, that obviously, we're going to see sequentially profitability step up pretty significantly here, based on that price raw.

Speaker #4: And given the circumstances that we're in today, this is unusual. We're going to have some of that price raw realization in metal cutting too.

Patrick Watson: You know, given the circumstances that we're in today, again, this is unusual, we're gonna have some of that price raw realization in Metal Cutting too. When you think about, again, the margin performance of the business as a whole and the two segments, pretty big ramp up for both of them.

Speaker #4: So when you think about, again, the margin performance of the business as a whole in the two segments, pretty big ramp-up for both of them.

Tami Zakaria: Understood. It's helpful. Thank you.

Speaker #5: Understood. Helpful. Thank you.

Speaker #2: And the next question comes from Angel Castillo with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed.

Operator: The next question comes from Angel Castillo with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed.

Speaker #4: Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Just maybe first wanted to start out on the market share gains. That's been a meaningful driver, I guess, of the organic growth that you've been seeing.

Angel Castillo: Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Just maybe first wanted to start out on the market share gains. That's been a meaningful driver, I guess, of the organic growth that you've been seeing. Just curious if you could unpack that a little bit more. I guess I'm trying to understand, you know, if it's possible to, I guess, separate how much of the share gains you think was maybe driven by kind of value proposition or, you know, project wins that tend to be a little bit stickier versus where it's maybe related to kind of competitor supply constraints.

Speaker #4: And just curious if you could unpack that a little bit more. I guess I'm trying to understand if it's possible to, I guess, separate how much of the share gains you think was maybe driven by kind of value proposition or project wins that tend to be a little bit stickier versus where it's maybe related to kind of competitor supply constraints.

Angel Castillo: In particular, I guess to the latter bucket, curious if you kind of expect that, you know, as over time, as kind of supply perhaps normalizes, if you would expect to kind of give that back or if there's any kind of stickiness to some of those shifts that we might be seeing on the kind of supply-driven angle. You know, if you could comment on the promotional campaigns you talked about as well, that'd be helpful.

Speaker #4: And in particular, I guess, to the latter bucket, curious if you kind of expect that as over time, as kind of supply perhaps normalizes, if you would expect to kind of give that back or if there's any kind of stickiness to some of those shifts that we might be seeing on the kind of supply-driven angle.

Speaker #4: And also, if you could comment on the promotional campaigns you talked about as well, that would be helpful.

Speaker #3: Yeah. Sure, Angel. First of all, again, it is a combination of all three factors. Market improving. And we think that that should continue. Then second will be our strategic growth initiatives.

Sanjay Chowbey: Yeah, sure, Angel. First of all, you know, again, it is a combination of all three factors, you know. Market improving, and we think that that should continue. Second will be in our strategic growth initiatives, and we have talked about in past, you know, those will you know, include, for example, what we have done in aerospace and defense, and energy and, you know, general engineering, Earthworks, and so on and so forth. How we have gone about winning bigger share of wallet with existing customers, but also, you know, going out and winning business at different tiers of the supply chain or our customer value chain. Those I will you know, will tell you that are very sustainable because we're winning those using our core competencies from product and innovation and our commercial excellence and our operational capabilities.

Speaker #3: And we have talked about in the past, those will include for example, what we have done in aerospace and defense. And energy. And general engineering, earthworks, and so on and so forth.

Speaker #3: How we have gone about winning bigger share of wallet with existing customers, but also going out and winning business at different tiers of the supply chain.

Speaker #3: Or our customer value chain. And those I will tell you that are very sustainable because we are winning those, using our core competencies, from product and innovation, and our commercial excellence, and our operational capabilities.

Speaker #3: Now, the third piece of the volume that we have also talked about—the window of opportunity we have from Tungsten Dynamics—we also think that those are sustainable, at least in the near term, that we see that.

Sanjay Chowbey: Now, the third piece of the volume that we have also talked about, you know, the window of opportunity we have from tungsten dynamics. We also think that those are sustainable, at least in the near term, that we see that. In the long term, we'll see how that, you know, plays out. We are being very strategic about which opportunities that we go and capitalize. We are selective on what opportunities we think are gonna be longer-term sustainable for us. All in all, of course, it's a mix of three things, and I won't be able to quantify, you know, breakdown or don't wanna disclose it, you know, in public domain on that. I can tell you that as we have talked about in past, that driving growth above market has been one of our strategic imperative, and it will continue to be.

Speaker #3: In the long term, we'll see how that plays out. But we are being very strategic about which opportunities that we go and capitalize. We are selective on what opportunities we think are going to be longer-term sustainable for us.

Speaker #3: So all in all, of course, it's a mix of three things. And I won't be able to quantify or break down or don't want to disclose it in public domain on that.

Speaker #3: But I can tell you that as we have talked about in the past, that driving growth above market has been one of our strategic imperatives.

Speaker #3: And it will continue to be. In the last two years, three years, actually, I will go a little bit beyond that. We have shown our ability to outperform or at least hold our own in our metal cutting business, where we have public peer data.

Sanjay Chowbey: In the last, you know, 2 years, 3 years, you know, actually I would go a little bit beyond that, we have shown our ability to outperform or at least, you know, hold our own in our Metal Cutting business where we have in public peer data. This is gonna continue to be one of the focus. In short, I will just say that it is gonna be a meaningful piece of our overall volume story.

Speaker #3: And this is going to continue to be one of the focuses. So in short, I will just say that it is going to be a meaningful piece of our overall volume story.

Speaker #4: Very helpful. Thank you. And then if you could bear with me, I guess a three-part question here just on tungsten. Hoping to better understand, I guess, a couple of things.

Angel Castillo: Very helpful. Thank you. If you could bear with me, I guess a 3-part question here just on tungsten. Hoping to better understand, I guess, a couple of things. One, any more color you can add in terms of the sourcing that you're doing and how that differs versus competitors that allows you know, in a market that you described as very competitive, in terms of sourcing to make sure that you're able to have the right amount of supply. So just any color you can add on that. Then maybe a little bit more longer term or medium to longer term, on the tungsten side, I think your preliminary FY27 outlook talked about that as being kind of stable at current levels.

Speaker #4: One, any more color you can add in terms of the sourcing that you're doing and how that differs versus competitors that allows you in a market that you described as very competitive in terms of sourcing to make sure that you're able to have the right amount of supply.

Speaker #4: So just any color you can add on that. And then maybe a little bit more longer term or medium to longer term, on the tungsten side, I think your preliminary fiscal year '27 outlook talked about that as being kind of stable at current levels.

Speaker #4: Just anything you can add in terms of the supply-demand that you're seeing progressing from here, in terms of—I think there might be some capacity that's coming online in 2027.

Angel Castillo: Just anything you can add in terms of the supply demand that you're seeing progressing from here in terms of, I think there might be some capacity that's coming online in 2027? Just to extent that, I guess any implications from that or the recently kind of lower prices of tungsten in China, as to what, you know, where that commodity heads in 2027? Just kinda lastly, you know, implications of that to the price and the market share gains that you talked about on the supply basis?

Speaker #4: So just to the extent that, I guess, any implications from that or the recently kind of lower prices of tungsten in China, as to what where that commodity heads in 2027, and then just kind of lastly, implications of that to the price and the market share gains that you talked about on the supply basis.

Speaker #3: Yeah. Certainly. So I'll try to take each one of those in terms. When I think about the advantages we have, I want to go beyond, quite frankly, just the sourcing aspect.

Patrick Watson: Yeah, certainly. I'll try to take each one of those in terms. You know, when I think about the advantages we have, you know, I wanna go beyond, quite frankly, just the sourcing aspect. Like, from a sourcing perspective, you know, as we've talked about in the past, we do not use significant amounts of Chinese material outside of our Chinese operation. You know, outside of China, you know, we've got a diversified supply base and partners we've been with for a long period of time and getting material from Bolivia, other East Asian sources, and as well as a nice slug of recycled material. A lot of the strength that we have as a company vis-a-vis some of the competition that's out there is also the integrated nature of our supply chain, right?

Speaker #3: And from a sourcing perspective, as we've talked about in the past, we do not use significant amounts of Chinese material outside of our Chinese operation.

Speaker #3: Outside of China, we've got to diversify the supply base and partners we've been with for a long period of time in getting material from Bolivia.

Speaker #3: Other East Asian sources. And as well as a nice slug of recycled material. But a lot of the strength that we have as a company, vis-à-vis some of the competition that's out there, is also the integrated nature of our supply chain.

Speaker #3: Right? So we are a bit we have the ability to basically take in tungsten materials at various stages and turn them ultimately into a final product.

Patrick Watson: We have the ability basically to take in tungsten materials at various stages and turn them ultimately into a final product. You think about that from a, you know, our ability to take raw materials, which is virgin ore in and process that, there is only a handful of companies in the industry that can do that as well. That provides us, I think, a durable strategic advantage here in this set of circumstances. You know, as you think about where it is from an overall pricing perspective, yes, our assumption at the moment is that tungsten prices are stable.

Speaker #3: You think about that from our ability to take raw materials, which is virgin or in and process that. There is only a handful of companies in the industry that can do that as well.

Speaker #3: And so that provides us, I think, a durable strategic advantage here in this set of circumstances. As you think about where it is from an overall pricing perspective, yes, our assumption at the moment is that tungsten prices are stable.

Speaker #3: I think the last couple of quarters that we've gone through in terms of the magnitude of this price change, I don't think that many market participants would have envisioned us going from a couple hundred dollars a ton to over 3,000 dollars a ton, excuse me, as we have over the last 12 months.

Patrick Watson: You know, I think the, you know, the last couple of quarters that we've gone through in terms of, you know, the magnitude of this price change, I don't think that many market participants would have envisioned us going from $200 a ton to over $3,000 a ton, excuse me, as we have over the last 12 months. You know, certainly there has been some softening in China the last week or so in terms of the prices. Unclear at the moment in time whether or not that's indicative of a larger trend that would be more durable. We'll obviously continue to monitor and watch that. Your last question, in terms of what supply is coming online. Yep, there's a variety of new mine projects that are out there that will come online.

Speaker #3: Certainly, there has been some softening in China the last week or so in terms of the prices. Unclear at the moment in time. Whether or not that's indicative of a larger trend, that would be more durable.

Speaker #3: We'll obviously continue to monitor and watch that. And then your last question, in terms of what supply is coming online—yep, there's a variety of new mine projects that are out there that will come online.

Patrick Watson: We would anticipate in the fullness of time, that would help moderate the tungsten prices here a little bit, on a global basis. I think, you know, the other reality of the situation here is in particular, you know, we've got the export controls in China that are in place, number 1. Number 2, we've got, lower Chinese mine production over the last 2 years, as it relates to, you know, based on some information that's in the public domain, you know, lower quality ore potentially out there, as well as I would emphasize, lower mining permits provided by the Chinese government. You know, the market has been in a period of shortage.

Speaker #3: We would anticipate in the fullness of time that would help moderate the tungsten prices here a little bit. On a global basis, I think the other reality of the situation here is, in particular, we've got the export controls in China.

Speaker #3: That are in place. Number one. And then number two, we've got lower Chinese mine production. Over the last two years, as it relates to based on some information from the public domain, lower quality ore potentially out there as well as I would emphasize lower mining permits provided by the Chinese government.

Speaker #3: So the market has been in a period of shortage. Additional supply, obviously, would help alleviate some of that. And as that market continues to unfold, obviously that will inform our pricing decisions and how we set up, say, our inventory objectives here in terms of holding inventory as well.

Patrick Watson: Additional supply obviously would help alleviate some of that, you know. As that market continues to unfold, obviously that will inform our pricing decisions and, you know, how we set, I'll say, our inventory objectives here in terms of holding inventory as well.

Speaker #4: Very helpful. Thank you so much.

Angel Castillo: Very helpful. Thank you so much.

Speaker #1: And the next question is a follow-up from Steve Barger with KEBANK Capital Markets. Please proceed.

Operator: The next question is a follow-up from Steve Barger with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed.

Speaker #5: Hey. Thank you. Pat, just to level set expectations for the models, you said price raw timing benefit from tungsten flows through into the first half, mostly in one queue.

Steve Barger: Hey, thank you, Pat, just to level set expectations for the models. You said price raw timing benefit from sunk-tungsten flows through into the H1, mostly in Q1. Is the right way to think about FY27 kind of reverse order from this year, high point by far in Q1 trailing back down to your, you know, quarterly average of like $0.40 towards the end of FY27?

Speaker #5: Is the right way to think about FY '27 kind of reverse order from this year? High point by far in one queue, trailing back down to your quarterly average of like 40 cents towards the end of FY '27?

Speaker #6: Yeah. A couple of ways that I think about that. Steve, first off, just let me give you some of the basic walk, and I'll start from the midpoint, right?

Patrick Watson: Yeah. Here a couple ways that I think about that, Steve. First off, just let me give you some, like, the basic walk. I'll start from the midpoint, right? Midpoint of the outlook this year is $3.88. You know, we said we've got $2.45 of price raw in there. You know, probably have about $0.20 worth of variable compensation that would reset. Let's think of like a, you know, a clean FY26, removing those items, about $1.63 in EPS terms, right? Kind of moving forward next year, you're gonna add $0.10 in for the additional restructuring that we talked about. That gets you down to, like, about $1.73 before you get to what I'll call is additional price raw, which again, should exist in that H1, right?

Speaker #6: Midpoint of the outlook this year is 388. We said we got $2.45 of price raw in there. Probably have about two dimes' worth of variable compensation that would reset.

Speaker #6: So let's think of a clean FY '26. We're moving those items about $1.63 in EPS terms, right? And then kind of moving forward next year, you're going to add 10 cents in for the additional restructuring that we talked about.

Speaker #6: That gets you down to about $1.73 before you get to what I'll call additional price raw, which again should exist in that first half, right?

Speaker #6: And then whatever the volume assumption is that you guys make at this point in time, obviously we'll give some clarity about that in August.

Patrick Watson: Whatever the volume assumption is that you guys make at this point in time. Obviously, we'll give some clarity about that in August. I think the right way to think about this, again, this is assuming a relatively stable tungsten environment, would be H1, we're going to see the benefits of price raw. H2 of that year, we'll get back to what I would call it is a normal level of profitability, right? Absent the price raw tailwinds.

Speaker #6: The second thing I would say about that in terms of now taking that cadence and thinking about the year, yeah, I think the right way to think about this again, this is assuming a relatively stable tungsten environment would be first half, we're going to see the benefits of price raw.

Speaker #6: Back half of that year, we'll get back to what I would call it is a normal level of profitability. Right? Absent the price raw tailwinds.

Speaker #5: Super helpful. Thank you.

Steve Barger: Super helpful. Thank you.

Speaker #1: The next question is a follow-up from Julian Mitchell with Barclays. Please proceed.

Operator: The next question is a follow-up from Julian Mitchell with Barclays. Please proceed.

Julian Mitchell: Much. This will be a quick one. Maybe just flesh out a bit more the cadence of kind of volume demand. You had that very interesting chart on cumulative volumes going back several years. That was interesting, and you've clearly seen a pickup, as you said a couple of times. There's some pre-buy, I suppose, in that. Maybe give us any color you can on sort of how base volumes are performing if you can really get to that level of detail from your channel partners and so forth. Have you seen an improvement in base demand in the last couple of months, or it's difficult to disentangle that from pre-buy movement?

Speaker #7: Much. This will be a quick one. Maybe just flesh out a bit more the cadence of kind of volume demand. You had that very interesting chart on cumulative volumes going back several years.

Speaker #7: That was interesting. And you've clearly seen a pickup, as you said, a couple of times. There's some pre-buy, I suppose, in that. So maybe give us any color you can on sort of how base volumes are performing, if you can really get to that level of detail from your channel partners and so forth.

Speaker #7: And have you seen an improvement in base demand in the last couple of months, or is it difficult to disentangle that from pre-buy movement?

Patrick Watson: I'll take that first and then Sanjay will hit most of it. Just to clarify that chart to make sure we're all talking about the same way, right? That chart is based on a 12 trailing months basis, Julian. Based on that, you can think about it as an annualized chart. It's gonna kind of flatten out any sort of short-term pre-buying issues, right? Because again, we're talking about an annual type number. With that, I'll turn it over to Sanjay here.

Speaker #6: So I'll take that first, and then Sanjay will have most of this. But just to clarify that chart to make sure we're all talking about the same way.

Speaker #6: Right? That chart is based on a 12 trailing months basis. Julian. So based on that, you can think about it as an annualized chart.

Speaker #6: It's going to kind of flatten out any sort of short-term pre-buying issues. Right? Because again, we're talking about an annual type number. And with that, I'll turn it over to Sanjay here.

Speaker #3: Yeah. Julian, with regards to the rest of the drivers at this point, Q4, we are confident in what we are saying. That we do see impact from improving market condition, which is again moderate.

Sanjay Chowbey: Yeah, Julian, with regards to, you know, rest of the drivers, at this point, Q4, we are confident in what we are saying, you know, that we do see impact from improving market condition, which is again, moderate. Then on top of that, you know, our share gain opportunities that we have, those will definitely play out. I think with respect to fiscal 27, we'll come back and talk about that in August, but the, you know, initial signs are, you know, seems like things are definitely stabilizing.

Speaker #3: And then on top of that, our share gain opportunities that we have, those will definitely play out. I think with respect to fiscal '27, we'll come back and talk about that in August.

Speaker #3: But the initial signs are seems like things are definitely stabilizing.

Speaker #4: Great. Thank you.

Operator: Great. Thank you. This concludes today's question and answer session. At this time, I would like to turn the conference back over to Sanjay Chowbey for any closing remarks.

Speaker #1: And this concludes today's question and answer session. At this time, I would like to turn the conference back over to Sanjay Chowbey for any closing remarks.

Speaker #7: Thank you, operator. And thank you, everyone. For joining the call today. As always, we appreciate your interest and support. Please don't hesitate to reach out to Mike if you have any questions.

Sanjay Chowbey: Thank you, operator, and thank you everyone for joining the call today. As always, we appreciate your interest and support. Please don't hesitate to reach out to Mike if you have any questions. Have a great day.

Speaker #7: Have a great day.

Speaker #1: Thank you. And as a reminder, a replay of this event will be available approximately one hour after its conclusion. To access the replay, you may dial toll-free within the United States at 855-669-9658.

Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, a replay of this event will be available approximately 1 hour after its conclusion. Today's conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation, and you may now disconnect your lines.

Speaker #1: Outside of the United States, you may dial 412-317-0088. You will be prompted to enter the conference ID, which is 6936627, then the pound or hash symbol.