Q2 2026 Ares Commercial Real Estate Corp Earnings Call

Speaker #2: Good afternoon. Welcome to the Ares Commercial Real Estate Corporation's second quarter earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.

Operator 3: Good afternoon. Welcome to the Ares Commercial Real Estate Corporation's Q2 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded on 4 August 2026. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. John Stilmar, Partner of Public Markets, Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Operator: Good afternoon. Welcome to the Ares Commercial Real Estate Corporation's Q2 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded on Tuesday, 4 August 2026. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. John Stilmar, Partner of Public Markets, Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker #2: As a reminder, this conference is being recorded on Tuesday, August 4, 2026. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. John Stilmar.

Speaker #2: Partner of Public Markets Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker #3: Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us on today's conference call. In addition to our press release and the 10-Q that we filed with the SEC, we have posted an earnings presentation under the Investor Resources section of our website at www.arescre.com.

John Stilmar: Good afternoon. Thank you for joining us on today's conference call. In addition to our press release and the 10-Q that we filed with the SEC, we have posted an earnings presentation under the investor resources section of our website at www.arescre.com. Before we begin, I want to remind everyone that comments made during the course of this conference call and webcast and the accompanying documents contain forward-looking statements and are subject to risks and uncertainties. Many of these forward-looking statements can be identified by the use of words such as anticipates, believes, expects, intends, will, should, may, and similar such expressions. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectation of market conditions and management's judgment. These statements are not guarantees of future performance, conditions, or results and do involve a number of risks and uncertainties.

John Stilmar: Good afternoon. Thank you for joining us on today's conference call. In addition to our press release and the 10-Q that we filed with the SEC, we have posted an earnings presentation under the investor resources section of our website at www.arescre.com. Before we begin, I want to remind everyone that comments made during the course of this conference call and webcast and the accompanying documents contain forward-looking statements and are subject to risks and uncertainties. Many of these forward-looking statements can be identified by the use of words such as anticipates, believes, expects, intends, will, should, may, and similar such expressions. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectation of market conditions and management's judgment. These statements are not guarantees of future performance, conditions, or results and do involve a number of risks and uncertainties.

Speaker #3: Before we begin, I want to remind everyone that comments made during the course of this conference call and webcast, and the accompanying documents, contain forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties.

Speaker #3: Many of these forward-looking statements can be identified by the use of words such as "anticipates," "believes," "expects," "intends," "will," "should," "may," and similar expressions.

Speaker #3: These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations of market conditions and management's judgment. These statements are not guarantees of future performance, conditions, or results, and do involve a number of risks and uncertainties.

Speaker #3: The company's actual results could differ materially from those expressed in forward-looking statements as a result of a number of factors, including those listed in its SEC filings.

John Stilmar: The company's actual results could differ materially from those expressed in forward-looking statement as a result of a number of factors, including those listed in its SEC filings. Ares Commercial Real Estate Corporation assumes no obligation to update any such forward-looking statements. During this conference call, we will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. We use these as measures of operating performance, and these measures should not be considered in isolation for or a substitute for measures prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles. These measures may not be comparable to like-kind measures used by other companies. Now I'd like to turn the call over to our CEO, Bryan Donohoe. Bryan?

John Stilmar: The company's actual results could differ materially from those expressed in forward-looking statement as a result of a number of factors, including those listed in its SEC filings. Ares Commercial Real Estate Corporation assumes no obligation to update any such forward-looking statements. During this conference call, we will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. We use these as measures of operating performance, and these measures should not be considered in isolation for or a substitute for measures prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles. These measures may not be comparable to like-kind measures used by other companies. Now I'd like to turn the call over to our CEO, Bryan Donohoe. Bryan?

Speaker #3: Ares Commercial Real Estate Corporation assumes no obligation to update any such forward-looking statements. During this conference call, we will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures.

Speaker #3: We use these as measures of operating performance, and these measures should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for measures prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles.

Speaker #3: These measures may not be comparable to like-kind measures used by other companies. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to our CEO, Bryan Donohoe.

Speaker #3: Bryan?

Speaker #4: Thank you, John. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. I'm here today with Jeff Gonzales, our CFO; Tasek Yoon, our COO; as well as other members of the management and investor relations teams.

Bryan Donohoe: Thank you, John. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. I'm here today with Jeff Gonzales, our CFO, Tae-Sik Yoon, our COO, as well as other members of the management and investor relations teams. During the Q2, we saw the commercial real estate market exhibit relative stability despite broader macroeconomic and geopolitical uncertainty. Property prices appreciated modestly, financing markets remained open, and liquidity continued to improve. While sales transaction activity did moderate somewhat during the Q2, we see compelling opportunities driven by refinancing needs and a robust pipeline of floating-rate lending opportunities offering attractive risk-adjusted returns. Consistent with recent trends, private real estate capital continues to increase its role in the market.

Bryan Donohoe: Thank you, John. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. I'm here today with Jeff Gonzales, our CFO, Tae-Sik Yoon, our COO, as well as other members of the management and investor relations teams. During the Q2, we saw the commercial real estate market exhibit relative stability despite broader macroeconomic and geopolitical uncertainty. Property prices appreciated modestly, financing markets remained open, and liquidity continued to improve. While sales transaction activity did moderate somewhat during the Q2, we see compelling opportunities driven by refinancing needs and a robust pipeline of floating-rate lending opportunities offering attractive risk-adjusted returns. Consistent with recent trends, private real estate capital continues to increase its role in the market.

Speaker #4: During the second quarter, we saw the commercial real estate market exhibit relative stability despite broader macroeconomic and geopolitical uncertainty. Property prices appreciated modestly, financing markets remained open, and liquidity continued to improve.

Speaker #4: While sales transaction activity did moderate somewhat during the second quarter, we see compelling opportunities driven by refinancing needs and a robust pipeline of floating-rate lending opportunities offering attractive risk-adjusted returns.

Speaker #4: Consistent with recent trends, private real estate capital continues to increase its role in the market. Today, debt funds have become the second largest source of commercial real estate lending, behind banks, according to MSCI, reflecting both the continued evolution of the lending market and the growing importance of alternative asset managers.

Bryan Donohoe: Today, debt funds have become the second largest source of commercial real estate lending behind banks, according to MSCI, reflecting both the continued evolution of the lending market and the growing importance of alternative asset managers. We continue to believe that the scale of the Ares real estate platform is a key differentiator in allowing us to access greater institutional quality assets in a diversified manner and efficiently deploying our available capital. The strength of the platform allowed ACRE to deploy over $900 million in new loan commitments in the past 12 months, which represents more than 40% of our current loan portfolio. Supported by these platform benefits and the progress we have made in executing our business plan, we believe ACRE is well positioned to capitalize on market opportunities while continuing to advance our portfolio repositioning strategy.

Bryan Donohoe: Today, debt funds have become the second largest source of commercial real estate lending behind banks, according to MSCI, reflecting both the continued evolution of the lending market and the growing importance of alternative asset managers. We continue to believe that the scale of the Ares real estate platform is a key differentiator in allowing us to access greater institutional quality assets in a diversified manner and efficiently deploying our available capital. The strength of the platform allowed ACRE to deploy over $900 million in new loan commitments in the past 12 months, which represents more than 40% of our current loan portfolio. Supported by these platform benefits and the progress we have made in executing our business plan, we believe ACRE is well positioned to capitalize on market opportunities while continuing to advance our portfolio repositioning strategy.

Speaker #4: We continue to believe that the scale of the Ares Real Estate platform is a key differentiator in allowing us to access greater institutional quality assets in a diversified available capital.

Speaker #4: The strength of the platform allowed ACRE to deploy over $900 million in new loan commitments in the past 12 months, which represents more than 40% of our current loan portfolio.

Speaker #4: Supported by these platform benefits and the progress we have made in executing our business plan, we believe ACRE is well positioned to capitalize on market opportunities while continuing to advance our portfolio repositioning strategy.

Speaker #4: To this end, we have continued to make meaningful progress in addressing risk-rated 4 and 5 loans, while further reducing office loans and REO properties.

Bryan Donohoe: To this end, we have continued to make meaningful progress in addressing risk-graded 4 and 5 loans while further reducing office loans and REO properties. At the same time, we are strategically redeploying capital into high-quality new investments, largely to support growth in earnings and achieve our long-term portfolio objectives. We believe our Q2 results reflect the continued execution against that strategy. Importantly, key portfolio and financial metrics remain consistent quarter-over-quarter, as reflected by our relatively stable CECL reserve. Additionally, for the third consecutive quarter, no risk-graded 1 through 3 loans migrated to risk-graded 4 or 5 loans. We also had no new REO properties, and the operating performance across our existing REO assets remained stable. Supported by these metrics, the depth of the Ares platform and a supportive commercial real estate market, ACRE saw another quarter of steady portfolio growth.

Bryan Donohoe: To this end, we have continued to make meaningful progress in addressing risk-graded 4 and 5 loans while further reducing office loans and REO properties. At the same time, we are strategically redeploying capital into high-quality new investments, largely to support growth in earnings and achieve our long-term portfolio objectives. We believe our Q2 results reflect the continued execution against that strategy. Importantly, key portfolio and financial metrics remain consistent quarter-over-quarter, as reflected by our relatively stable CECL reserve. Additionally, for the third consecutive quarter, no risk-graded 1 through 3 loans migrated to risk-graded 4 or 5 loans. We also had no new REO properties, and the operating performance across our existing REO assets remained stable. Supported by these metrics, the depth of the Ares platform and a supportive commercial real estate market, ACRE saw another quarter of steady portfolio growth.

Speaker #4: At the same time, we are strategically redeploying capital into high-quality new investments, largely to support growth in earnings and achieve our long-term portfolio objectives.

Speaker #4: We believe our second quarter results reflect the continued execution against that strategy. Importantly, key portfolio and financial metrics remain consistent quarter over quarter, as reflected by our relatively stable CISO reserve.

Speaker #4: Additionally, for the third consecutive quarter, no risk-rated 1 through 3 loans migrated to risk-rated 4 or 5 loans. We also had no new REO properties, and the operating performance across our existing REO assets remained stable.

Speaker #4: Supported by these metrics, the depth of the Ares platform, and a supportive commercial real estate market, ACRE saw another quarter of steady portfolio growth.

Speaker #4: As of June 30, 2026, we increased the outstanding principal balance of the total portfolio by 36% year-over-year, while improving portfolio diversification and reducing the office loan portfolio.

Bryan Donohoe: As of 30 June 2026, we increased the outstanding principal balance of the total portfolio by 36% year-over-year while improving portfolio diversification and reducing the office loan portfolio. During Q2, we closed three new loan commitments totaling $130 million across multifamily, self-storage, and hotel properties. Consistent with last quarter, all three new loan commitments were part of co-investment opportunities alongside other Ares Management affiliated vehicles. We believe ACRE's ability to selectively co-invest alongside Ares Managed Vehicles allows us to reduce asset concentration risk while participating in institutional properties in major markets which would otherwise be beyond our standalone capital base. Loans originated over the past 12 months now account for 42% of the total portfolio of loans held for investment. These loans contribute to broader diversification across vintage, sector, geography, and credit while providing gross levered returns in the low double digits.

Bryan Donohoe: As of 30 June 2026, we increased the outstanding principal balance of the total portfolio by 36% year-over-year while improving portfolio diversification and reducing the office loan portfolio. During Q2, we closed three new loan commitments totaling $130 million across multifamily, self-storage, and hotel properties. Consistent with last quarter, all three new loan commitments were part of co-investment opportunities alongside other Ares Management affiliated vehicles. We believe ACRE's ability to selectively co-invest alongside Ares Managed Vehicles allows us to reduce asset concentration risk while participating in institutional properties in major markets which would otherwise be beyond our standalone capital base. Loans originated over the past 12 months now account for 42% of the total portfolio of loans held for investment. These loans contribute to broader diversification across vintage, sector, geography, and credit while providing gross levered returns in the low double digits.

Speaker #4: During the second quarter, we closed three new loan commitments totaling $130 million across multifamily, self-storage, and hotel properties. Consistent with last quarter, all three new loan commitments were part of co-investment opportunities alongside other Ares Management-affiliated vehicles.

Speaker #4: We believe ACRE's ability to selectively co-invest alongside Ares-managed vehicles allows us to reduce asset concentration risk while participating in institutional properties in major markets, which would otherwise be beyond our standalone capital base.

Speaker #4: Loans originated over the past 12 months now account for 42% of the total portfolio of loans held for investment. These loans contribute to broader diversification across vintage, sector, geography, and credit, while providing gross leverage returns in the low double digits.

Speaker #4: These loans also reinforce the solid foundation of the underlying portfolio. By number of loans, 89% of the loan portfolio is risk-rated 1 to 3, and primarily consists of loans collateralized by multifamily, industrial, and self-storage loans.

Bryan Donohoe: These loans also reinforce the solid foundation of the underlying portfolio. By number of loans, 89% of the loan portfolio is risk-graded 1 to 3 and primarily consists of loans collateralized by multifamily, industrial, and self-storage loans. These loans continue to execute their business plan in line with expectations. In order to achieve the goals of the business over the past several years, we proactively strengthened our balance sheet to address identified assets within our portfolio that were adversely affected by changing market dynamics or property-specific challenges. The progress we have made in repositioning the portfolio is a direct result of the continued focus in addressing risk-graded 4 and 5 loans and REO properties and further reducing our office investments. We believe that resolving these assets and redeploying that capital into yielding new investments remains an important driver of future earnings growth.

Bryan Donohoe: These loans also reinforce the solid foundation of the underlying portfolio. By number of loans, 89% of the loan portfolio is risk-graded 1 to 3 and primarily consists of loans collateralized by multifamily, industrial, and self-storage loans. These loans continue to execute their business plan in line with expectations. In order to achieve the goals of the business over the past several years, we proactively strengthened our balance sheet to address identified assets within our portfolio that were adversely affected by changing market dynamics or property-specific challenges. The progress we have made in repositioning the portfolio is a direct result of the continued focus in addressing risk-graded 4 and 5 loans and REO properties and further reducing our office investments. We believe that resolving these assets and redeploying that capital into yielding new investments remains an important driver of future earnings growth.

Speaker #4: These loans continue to execute their business plan in line with expectations. In order to achieve the goals of the business over the past several years, we proactively strengthened our balance sheet to address identified assets within our portfolio that were adversely affected by changing market dynamics or property-specific challenges.

Speaker #4: The progress we have made in repositioning the portfolio is a direct result of our continued focus on addressing risk-rated 4 and 5 loans and REO properties, and in further reducing our office investments.

Speaker #4: We believe that resolving these assets and redeploying that capital into yielding new investments remains an important driver of future earnings growth. Let me now dive a bit deeper into the specific investments we continue to focus on, and provide an update on the progress we're making toward resolutions.

Bryan Donohoe: Let me now dive a bit deeper into the specific investments we continue to focus on and provide an update on the progress we're making towards resolutions. Starting with our risk-graded 4 and 5 loans, similar to last quarter, there are four loans outstanding. Looking at the largest risk-graded 5 loan in the portfolio, the Chicago office loan remains on non-accrual but continues to make its contractual interest payments. Fundamentals at the property remain steady. Occupancy is above 90% with a weighted average lease term of over 7 years and positive net cash flow. While Chicago remains challenged, there have been positive signs of a nascent recovery in the market. As mentioned on our previous quarter's call, we remain engaged with the borrower on their ongoing sales process.

Bryan Donohoe: Let me now dive a bit deeper into the specific investments we continue to focus on and provide an update on the progress we're making towards resolutions. Starting with our risk-graded 4 and 5 loans, similar to last quarter, there are four loans outstanding. Looking at the largest risk-graded 5 loan in the portfolio, the Chicago office loan remains on non-accrual but continues to make its contractual interest payments. Fundamentals at the property remain steady. Occupancy is above 90% with a weighted average lease term of over 7 years and positive net cash flow. While Chicago remains challenged, there have been positive signs of a nascent recovery in the market. As mentioned on our previous quarter's call, we remain engaged with the borrower on their ongoing sales process.

Speaker #4: Starting with our risk-rated 4 and 5 loans—similar to last quarter—there are four loans outstanding. Looking at the largest risk-rated 5 loan in the portfolio, the Chicago office loan remains on non-accrual but continues to make its contractual interest payments.

Speaker #4: Fundamentals at the property remain steady. Occupancy is above 90%, with a weighted average lease term of over seven years, and positive net cash flow.

Speaker #4: Further, while Chicago remains challenged, there have been positive signs of a nascent recovery in the market. As mentioned on our previous quarter's call, we remain engaged with the borrower on their ongoing sales process.

Speaker #4: Although the timeline has extended beyond our original expectations, we remain encouraged by the negotiations, which continue to advance towards a resolution. We note that post-quarter-end, the loan was extended from July 2026 by three months to support the borrower's business plan and ongoing efforts to reach a conclusion in the sales process.

Bryan Donohoe: The timeline has extended beyond our original expectations, we remain encouraged by the negotiations which continue to advance towards a resolution. We note that post quarter end, the loan was extended from July 2026 by 3 months to support the borrower's business plan and continued efforts to reach a conclusion in the sales process. Turning to the second largest risk-graded 4 and 5 loan, the Brooklyn residential condo remains on non-accrual, but advancements in the business plan continued during the quarter. Construction on this building is now substantially complete. Our CECL reserve takes into account estimated future costs, with remaining costs largely limited to settling payables from completed work and completing punch list items. Early marketing and pre-sales efforts remain ongoing, supporting a more visible path towards resolution.

Bryan Donohoe: The timeline has extended beyond our original expectations, we remain encouraged by the negotiations which continue to advance towards a resolution. We note that post quarter end, the loan was extended from July 2026 by 3 months to support the borrower's business plan and continued efforts to reach a conclusion in the sales process. Turning to the second largest risk-graded 4 and 5 loan, the Brooklyn residential condo remains on non-accrual, but advancements in the business plan continued during the quarter. Construction on this building is now substantially complete. Our CECL reserve takes into account estimated future costs, with remaining costs largely limited to settling payables from completed work and completing punch list items. Early marketing and pre-sales efforts remain ongoing, supporting a more visible path towards resolution.

Speaker #4: Turning to the second largest risk-rated 4 and 5 loan, the Brooklyn residential condo remains on non-approval, but advancements in the business plan continued during the quarter.

Speaker #4: Construction on this building is now substantially complete. Our CISO reserve takes into account estimated future costs, with remaining costs largely limited to settling payables from completed work and completing punch list items.

Speaker #4: Early marketing and pre-sales efforts remain ongoing, supporting a more visible path towards resolution. Next, I want to address the $13 million subordinate loan collateralized by a California industrial property adjusted to a risk-rated 5 from a risk-rated 4 during the quarter.

Bryan Donohoe: Next, I want to address the $13 million subordinate loan collateralized by a California industrial property, adjusted to a risk-graded 5 from a risk-graded 4 during the quarter. As a reminder, this subordinate loan is part of a larger capital structure. We continue to receive sponsor support as well as growing interest from prospective tenants alongside positive trends in this sub-market. However, with the maturity of the loan in January 2027, we adjusted the risk rating to reflect the higher probability of a near-term realized loss. These updates underscore the highly asset-specific nature of our four remaining risk-graded 4 and 5 loans. Throughout this cycle, we have proactively identified challenges, deleveraged the balance sheet, and enhanced liquidity, enabling us to resolve underperforming assets while positioning the company to address these remaining investments.

Bryan Donohoe: Next, I want to address the $13 million subordinate loan collateralized by a California industrial property, adjusted to a risk-graded 5 from a risk-graded 4 during the quarter. As a reminder, this subordinate loan is part of a larger capital structure. We continue to receive sponsor support as well as growing interest from prospective tenants alongside positive trends in this sub-market. However, with the maturity of the loan in January 2027, we adjusted the risk rating to reflect the higher probability of a near-term realized loss. These updates underscore the highly asset-specific nature of our four remaining risk-graded 4 and 5 loans. Throughout this cycle, we have proactively identified challenges, deleveraged the balance sheet, and enhanced liquidity, enabling us to resolve underperforming assets while positioning the company to address these remaining investments.

Speaker #4: As a reminder, this subordinate loan is part of a larger capital structure. We continue to receive sponsor support, as well as growing interest from prospective tenants, alongside positive trends in this sub-market.

Speaker #4: However, with the maturity of the loan in January 2027, we adjusted the risk rating to reflect the higher probability of a near-term realized loss.

Speaker #4: These updates underscore the highly asset-specific nature of our four remaining risk-rated 4 and 5 loans. Throughout this cycle, we have proactively identified challenges, deleveraged the balance sheet, and enhanced liquidity, enabling us to resolve underperforming assets while positioning the company to address these remaining investments.

Speaker #4: We believe that our work to date has narrowed the potential outcomes, in part reflected in the stability of CISO this quarter. During the quarter, and consistent with our goals to change the complexion of our investment portfolio, office loans decreased to $442 million, or less than 25% of the total loan portfolio, as compared to 39% of the total loan portfolio at the end of Q2 2025.

Bryan Donohoe: We believe that our work to date has narrowed the potential outcomes, in part reflected in the stability of CECL this quarter. During the quarter, and consistent with our goals to change the complexion of our investment portfolio, office loans decreased to $442 million, or less than 25% of the total loan portfolio, as compared to 39% of the total loan portfolio at the end of Q2 2025. As of 30 June 2026, there were five risk-graded 1 to 3 office loans remaining. Further demonstrating the execution of our strategy to reduce our office investments, last quarter, we launched the sale of the North Carolina office REO asset. Market interest in this property has been strong, and we continue to work towards the sale of this asset. With regard to our other remaining REO, the Florida mixed-use property continues to exhibit consistent occupancy with an income yield of 10%.

Bryan Donohoe: We believe that our work to date has narrowed the potential outcomes, in part reflected in the stability of CECL this quarter. During the quarter, and consistent with our goals to change the complexion of our investment portfolio, office loans decreased to $442 million, or less than 25% of the total loan portfolio, as compared to 39% of the total loan portfolio at the end of Q2 2025. As of 30 June 2026, there were five risk-graded 1 to 3 office loans remaining. Further demonstrating the execution of our strategy to reduce our office investments, last quarter, we launched the sale of the North Carolina office REO asset. Market interest in this property has been strong, and we continue to work towards the sale of this asset. With regard to our other remaining REO, the Florida mixed-use property continues to exhibit consistent occupancy with an income yield of 10%.

Speaker #4: As of June 30, 2026, there were five risk-rated 1 to 3 office loans remaining. Further demonstrating the execution of our strategy to reduce our office investments, last quarter we launched a sale of the North Carolina office REO asset.

Speaker #4: Market interest in this property has been strong, and we continue to work towards a sale of this asset. With regard to our other remaining REO, the Florida mixed-use property continues to exhibit consistent occupancy, with an income yield of 10%.

Speaker #4: While we do not intend to be long-term owners of this property, we believe the current yield of this investment is attractive while we evaluate the optimal path to exit this investment.

Bryan Donohoe: While we do not intend to be long-term owners of this property, we believe the current yield of this investment is attractive while we evaluate the optimal path to exit this investment. In closing, we continue to execute the strategy we've outlined over the past several quarters. We are making steady progress resolving underperforming assets while selectively investing alongside the broader Ares platform in high-quality new originations. Although there is still work ahead, the portfolio today is materially different than it was a year ago. It is larger, more diversified, and increasingly comprised of newer investments originated in today's attractive lending environment. With more than $150 million in carrying value of loans, net of CECL not accruing interest, we are squarely focused on resolving these assets and capturing the potential earnings power of our future balance sheet.

Bryan Donohoe: While we do not intend to be long-term owners of this property, we believe the current yield of this investment is attractive while we evaluate the optimal path to exit this investment. In closing, we continue to execute the strategy we've outlined over the past several quarters. We are making steady progress resolving underperforming assets while selectively investing alongside the broader Ares platform in high-quality new originations. Although there is still work ahead, the portfolio today is materially different than it was a year ago. It is larger, more diversified, and increasingly comprised of newer investments originated in today's attractive lending environment. With more than $150 million in carrying value of loans, net of CECL not accruing interest, we are squarely focused on resolving these assets and capturing the potential earnings power of our future balance sheet.

Speaker #4: In closing, we continue to execute the strategy we've outlined over the past several quarters. We are making steady progress resolving underperforming assets while selectively investing alongside the broader Ares platform in high-quality new originations.

Speaker #4: Although there is still work ahead, the portfolio today is materially different than it was a year ago. It is larger, more diversified, and increasingly comprised of newer investments originated in today's attractive lending environment.

Speaker #4: With more than $150 million in carrying value of loans, net of CISO, not accruing interest, we are squarely focused on resolving these assets and capturing the potential earnings power of our future balance sheet.

Speaker #4: Looking ahead, we expect repayments to continue advancing our portfolio repositioning efforts, while successful asset resolutions will provide additional capacity to support future growth. We are encouraged by the progress achieved thus far and remain confident that the actions we’re taking today are building a high-quality portfolio, enhancing future earnings power, and creating a clear path back to increased levels of profitability.

Bryan Donohoe: Looking ahead, we expect repayments to continue advancing our portfolio repositioning efforts, while successful asset resolutions will provide additional capacity to support future growth. We are encouraged by the progress achieved thus far and remain confident that the actions we're taking today are building a high-quality portfolio, enhancing future earnings power, and creating a clear path back to increased levels of profitability. With that, I'll turn the call over to Jeff, who will walk you through our Q2 financial results.

Bryan Donohoe: Looking ahead, we expect repayments to continue advancing our portfolio repositioning efforts, while successful asset resolutions will provide additional capacity to support future growth. We are encouraged by the progress achieved thus far and remain confident that the actions we're taking today are building a high-quality portfolio, enhancing future earnings power, and creating a clear path back to increased levels of profitability. With that, I'll turn the call over to Jeff, who will walk you through our Q2 financial results.

Speaker #4: With that, I'll turn the call over to Jeff, who will walk you through our second quarter financial results.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Bryan. For the second quarter of 2026, we reported GAAP net income of approximately $4.4 million, or $0.08 per diluted common share.

Jeff Gonzales: Thank you, Bryan. For Q2 2026, we reported GAAP net income of approximately $4.4 million, or $0.08 per diluted common share. Our distributable earnings for Q2 2026 was approximately $6.9 million, or $0.12 per diluted common share. There were no realized gains or losses recognized in the quarter. Additionally, during Q2, we collected $1.7 million, or $0.03 per diluted common share, of cash interest on loans that were on non-accrual and was accounted for as a reduction in our loan basis. We continued to maintain our strong balance sheet position with moderate leverage, which support further resolutions of underperforming loans and future growth. We ended Q2 with a net debt-to-equity ratio excluding CECL of 2.0 times.

Jeff Gonzales: Thank you, Bryan. For Q2 2026, we reported GAAP net income of approximately $4.4 million, or $0.08 per diluted common share. Our distributable earnings for Q2 2026 was approximately $6.9 million, or $0.12 per diluted common share. There were no realized gains or losses recognized in the quarter. Additionally, during Q2, we collected $1.7 million, or $0.03 per diluted common share, of cash interest on loans that were on non-accrual and was accounted for as a reduction in our loan basis. We continued to maintain our strong balance sheet position with moderate leverage, which support further resolutions of underperforming loans and future growth. We ended Q2 with a net debt-to-equity ratio excluding CECL of 2.0 times.

Speaker #3: Our distributable earnings for the second quarter of 2026 were approximately $6.9 million, or $0.12 per diluted common share, and there were no realized gains or losses recognized in the quarter.

Speaker #3: Additionally, during the second quarter, we collected $1.7 million, or $0.03 per diluted common share, of cash interest on loans that were on nonaccrual and was accounted for as a reduction in our loan basis.

Speaker #3: We continue to maintain our strong balance sheet position with moderate leverage, which supports further resolutions of underperforming loans and future growth. We ended the second quarter with a net debt-to-equity ratio, excluding CISO, of 2.0 times.

Speaker #3: Our portfolio of loans held for investment reached $1.8 billion as of June 30, 2026, an increase of $129 million quarter over quarter and $484 million year over year.

Jeff Gonzales: Our portfolio of loans held for investment reached $1.8 billion as of 30 June 2026, an increase of $129 million quarter-over-quarter and $484 million year-over-year. During the quarter, we sold the $69 million loan that corresponds to a larger $144 million retail loan that was originated and classified as held for sale in Q1 2026. This short-term hold led to additional earnings from accrued interest and fee income during Q2. We anticipate utilizing this strategy opportunistically in the future in order for ACRE to selectively deploy its available equity on a short-term basis while capturing attractive economics on high-conviction loans. As we continue to reposition the portfolio, we remain focused on maintaining balance sheet flexibility through strong liquidity and disciplined liability management. In H1 2026, we collected over $110 million of repayments.

Jeff Gonzales: Our portfolio of loans held for investment reached $1.8 billion as of 30 June 2026, an increase of $129 million quarter-over-quarter and $484 million year-over-year. During the quarter, we sold the $69 million loan that corresponds to a larger $144 million retail loan that was originated and classified as held for sale in Q1 2026. This short-term hold led to additional earnings from accrued interest and fee income during Q2. We anticipate utilizing this strategy opportunistically in the future in order for ACRE to selectively deploy its available equity on a short-term basis while capturing attractive economics on high-conviction loans. As we continue to reposition the portfolio, we remain focused on maintaining balance sheet flexibility through strong liquidity and disciplined liability management. In H1 2026, we collected over $110 million of repayments.

Speaker #3: During the quarter, we sold the $69 million loan that corresponds to a larger $144 million retail loan, which was originated and classified as held for sale in Q1 2026.

Speaker #3: This short-term hold led to additional earnings from accrued interest and fee income during the second quarter. We anticipate utilizing this strategy opportunistically in the future in order for ACRE to selectively deploy its available liquidity on a short-term basis, while capturing attractive economics on high-conviction loans.

Speaker #3: As we continue to reposition the portfolio, we remain focused on maintaining balance sheet flexibility through strong liquidity and disciplined liability management. In the first half of 2026, we collected over $110 million of repayments.

Speaker #3: While repayments in the second quarter slowed from the first quarter, we expect repayment activity in the second half to be driven by natural portfolio turnover, as well as further resolutions.

Jeff Gonzales: While repayments in Q2 slowed from Q1, we expect repayment activity in H2 to be driven by natural portfolio turnover as well as further resolution. In addition, we continue to maintain liquidity of over $100 million in order to support asset resolutions and new investing activity. As of 30 June 2026, our available capital was $106 million. Supported by our strong liquidity position, deep lender relationships, access to financing, and the resources of the Ares real estate platform, we believe we are well positioned to continue to execute on our portfolio objectives and future growth initiatives. Turning to our CECL reserve, the total CECL reserve increased marginally to $139 million as of 30 June 2026, an increase of approximately $900,000 from the CECL reserve as of 31 March 2026.

Jeff Gonzales: While repayments in Q2 slowed from Q1, we expect repayment activity in H2 to be driven by natural portfolio turnover as well as further resolution. In addition, we continue to maintain liquidity of over $100 million in order to support asset resolutions and new investing activity. As of 30 June 2026, our available capital was $106 million. Supported by our strong liquidity position, deep lender relationships, access to financing, and the resources of the Ares real estate platform, we believe we are well positioned to continue to execute on our portfolio objectives and future growth initiatives. Turning to our CECL reserve, the total CECL reserve increased marginally to $139 million as of 30 June 2026, an increase of approximately $900,000 from the CECL reserve as of 31 March 2026.

Speaker #3: In addition, we continue to maintain liquidity of over $100 million in order to support asset resolutions and new investing activity. As of June 30, 2026, our available capital was $106 million.

Speaker #3: Supported by our strong liquidity position, deep lender relationships, access to financing, and the resources of the Ares Real Estate platform, we believe we are well positioned to continue to execute on our portfolio objectives and future growth initiatives.

Speaker #3: Turning to our CISO reserve, the total CISO reserve increased marginally to $139 million as of June 30, 2026, an increase of approximately $900,000 from the CISO reserve as of March 31, 2026.

Speaker #3: This increase was an increase of $1 million related to the new loans closed in the quarter, while the CECL reserve for our previously existing loan portfolio was largely flat quarter over quarter.

Jeff Gonzales: This increase was primarily driven by a reserve increase of $1 million related to the new loans closed in the quarter, while the CECL reserve for our previously existing loan portfolio was largely flat quarter-over-quarter. The total CECL reserve at the end of Q2 of $139 million represents approximately 8% of the total outstanding principal balance of our loans held for investment. 94% of our total CECL reserve, or $130 million, relates to our risk-rated four and five loans, and nearly half of the total CECL reserve is attributed to the risk-rated 5 Chicago office loan. Overall, the $130 million of reserves attributable to our risk-rated four and five loans represents approximately 34% of the outstanding principal balance of those risk-rated four and five loans. Our book value remained relatively stable at $8.82 per share.

Jeff Gonzales: This increase was primarily driven by a reserve increase of $1 million related to the new loans closed in the quarter, while the CECL reserve for our previously existing loan portfolio was largely flat quarter-over-quarter. The total CECL reserve at the end of Q2 of $139 million represents approximately 8% of the total outstanding principal balance of our loans held for investment. 94% of our total CECL reserve, or $130 million, relates to our risk-rated four and five loans, and nearly half of the total CECL reserve is attributed to the risk-rated 5 Chicago office loan. Overall, the $130 million of reserves attributable to our risk-rated four and five loans represents approximately 34% of the outstanding principal balance of those risk-rated four and five loans. Our book value remained relatively stable at $8.82 per share.

Speaker #3: The total CISO reserve at the end of the second quarter of $139 million represents approximately 8% of the total outstanding principal balance of our loans held for investment.

Speaker #3: Ninety-four percent of our total CISO reserve, or $130 million, relates to our risk-rated 4 and 5 loans, and nearly half of the total CISO reserve is attributed to the risk-rated 5 Chicago office loan.

Speaker #3: Overall, the $130 million of reserves attributable to our risk-rated 4 and 5 loans represents approximately 34% of the outstanding principal balance of those risk-rated 4 and 5 loans.

Speaker #3: Our book value remained relatively stable at $8.82 per share. While we still have work to do, we believe that the relative stability of our book value and reserve levels reflects the progress we have made in repositioning the portfolio.

Jeff Gonzales: While we still have work to do, we believe that the relative stability of our book value and reserve levels reflects the progress we have made in repositioning the portfolio and underlines the strength of the overall portfolio. We believe this foundation, combined with our liquidity and financial flexibility, positions us well for the opportunities ahead. Subsequent to quarter end, and as part of our ongoing capital allocation framework, our board of directors reauthorized our share repurchase program for an additional year through 31 July 2027, authorizing the repurchase of up to $50 million of our common stock. We will continue to assess share repurchases relative to other capital deployment opportunities. To conclude, the board declared a regular cash dividend of $0.15 per common share for Q3 2026.

Jeff Gonzales: While we still have work to do, we believe that the relative stability of our book value and reserve levels reflects the progress we have made in repositioning the portfolio and underlines the strength of the overall portfolio. We believe this foundation, combined with our liquidity and financial flexibility, positions us well for the opportunities ahead. Subsequent to quarter end, and as part of our ongoing capital allocation framework, our board of directors reauthorized our share repurchase program for an additional year through 31 July 2027, authorizing the repurchase of up to $50 million of our common stock. We will continue to assess share repurchases relative to other capital deployment opportunities. To conclude, the board declared a regular cash dividend of $0.15 per common share for Q3 2026.

Speaker #3: We believe this foundation, combined with our liquidity and financial flexibility, positions us well for the opportunities ahead. Subsequent to quarter-end, and as part of our ongoing capital allocation framework, our board of directors reauthorized our share repurchase program for an additional year through July 31, 2027, authorizing the repurchase of up to $50 million of our common stock.

Speaker #3: We will continue to assess share repurchases relative to other capital deployment opportunities. To conclude, the Board declared a regular cash dividend of $0.15 per common share for the third quarter of 2026.

Speaker #3: The third quarter dividend will be payable on October 15, 2026, to common stockholders of record as of September 30, 2026. At our current stock price on July 30, 2026, the annualized dividend yield on our third quarter dividend is approximately 14%.

Jeff Gonzales: The Q3 dividend will be payable on 15 October 2026 to common stockholders of record as of 30 September 2026. At our current stock price on 30 July 2026, the annualized dividend yield on our Q3 dividend is approximately 14%. With that, I will turn the call back over to Bryan for some closing remarks.

Jeff Gonzales: The Q3 dividend will be payable on 15 October 2026 to common stockholders of record as of 30 September 2026. At our current stock price on 30 July 2026, the annualized dividend yield on our Q3 dividend is approximately 14%. With that, I will turn the call back over to Bryan for some closing remarks.

Speaker #3: With that, I will turn the call back over to Bryan for some closing remarks.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Jeff. Before we begin Q&A, we'd like to take a moment to comment on the leadership transition that we announced this morning. Tasek Yoon will be stepping down as our Chief Operating Officer and expects to transition from his day-to-day executive role to serve as a Senior Advisor to Ares Management, including continuing to work with Ares.

Bryan Donohoe: Thanks, Jeff. Before we begin Q&A, we'd like to take a moment to comment on the leadership transition that we announced this morning. Tae-Sik Yoon will be stepping down as our Chief Operating Officer and expects to transition from his day-to-day executive role to serve as a senior advisor to Ares Management, including continuing to work with ACRE. We believe this transition will allow ACRE to continue benefiting from Tae-Sik's deep industry expertise and experience. He will remain a valued advisor to me and the rest of our team as we continue executing on our strategy. On behalf of our board of directors and everyone at ACRE, I want to sincerely thank Tae-Sik for his 14 years of dedication, leadership, and significant contributions to the company.

Bryan Donohoe: Thanks, Jeff. Before we begin Q&A, we'd like to take a moment to comment on the leadership transition that we announced this morning. Tae-Sik Yoon will be stepping down as our Chief Operating Officer and expects to transition from his day-to-day executive role to serve as a senior advisor to Ares Management, including continuing to work with ACRE. We believe this transition will allow ACRE to continue benefiting from Tae-Sik's deep industry expertise and experience. He will remain a valued advisor to me and the rest of our team as we continue executing on our strategy. On behalf of our board of directors and everyone at ACRE, I want to sincerely thank Tae-Sik for his 14 years of dedication, leadership, and significant contributions to the company.

Speaker #2: We believe this transition will allow Aker to continue benefiting from Tasek's deep industry expertise and experience. He will remain a valued advisor to me and the rest of our team as we continue executing on our strategy.

Speaker #2: On behalf of our Board of Directors and everyone at Aker, I want to sincerely thank Tasek for his 14 years of dedication, leadership, and significant contributions to the company.

Speaker #2: One of Tasek's strengths has been the active mentorship of the team around him, which has created a deep bench of talent, positioning us well for the future.

Bryan Donohoe: One of Tae-Sik's strengths has been the active mentorship of the team around him, which has created a deep bench of talent, positioning us well for the future. We at ACRE look forward to his continued guidance and friendship as we move forward together. As always, we appreciate you joining our call today, and we'd be happy to open the line for questions. Operator?

Bryan Donohoe: One of Tae-Sik's strengths has been the active mentorship of the team around him, which has created a deep bench of talent, positioning us well for the future. We at ACRE look forward to his continued guidance and friendship as we move forward together. As always, we appreciate you joining our call today, and we'd be happy to open the line for questions. Operator?

Speaker #2: We at Aker look forward to his continued guidance and friendship as we move forward together. As always, we appreciate you joining our call today, and we'd be happy to open the line for questions.

Speaker #2: Operator?

Speaker #1: Thank you. At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press star, then 1 on your touch-tone phone. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star, then 2.

Operator 3: Thank you. At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press star then one on your touchtone phone. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. We'll pause for just a moment to allow everyone the chance to queue. Our first question will come from Jade Rahmani with KBW. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press star then one on your touchtone phone. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. We'll pause for just a moment to allow everyone the chance to queue. Our first question will come from Jade Rahmani with KBW. Your line is open.

Speaker #1: We'll pause for just a moment to allow everyone the chance to queue. Our first question will come from Jade Rahmani with KBW. Your line is open.

Speaker #2: Thank you very much. We started the year with investors seeming optimistic around the commercial real estate cycle, yet something most people didn't expect has been the spike in interest rates and the shifting outlook.

Jade Rahmani: Thank you very much. We started the year with investors seeming optimistic around the commercial real estate cycle, yet something most people didn't expect has been the spike in interest rates and the shifting outlook. Can you comment on your thoughts as to where we are in the cycle, if you're seeing any new pressures emerge, either in the existing risk 4 to 5 loan bucket or in the risk 3 area? Also, if you could share a broader perspective about how Ares is viewing the world from a real estate perspective and also, within that, from its own equity investing perspective.

Jade Rahmani: Thank you very much. We started the year with investors seeming optimistic around the commercial real estate cycle, yet something most people didn't expect has been the spike in interest rates and the shifting outlook. Can you comment on your thoughts as to where we are in the cycle, if you're seeing any new pressures emerge, either in the existing risk 4 to 5 loan bucket or in the risk 3 area? Also, if you could share a broader perspective about how Ares is viewing the world from a real estate perspective and also, within that, from its own equity investing perspective.

Speaker #2: Can you comment on your thoughts as to where we are in the cycle? If you're seeing any new pressures emerge, either in the existing risk 4-to-5 loan bucket or in the risk 3 area, and also if you could share a broader perspective about how Ares is viewing the world from a real estate perspective, and also within that, from its own equity investing perspective.

Speaker #4: Yeah, thanks for the question, Jade. I'll start with the overall market view and then come back to your question on the portfolio a little bit. I guess to start with, in terms of where we are in the cycle and what we see out there, it feels like we're somewhere in the fourth or fifth inning, but probably in a bit of a rain delay, if that makes sense.

Bryan Donohoe: Yeah. Thanks for the question, Jade. I'll start with overall market view and then come back to your question on portfolio a little bit. I guess to start with it, in terms of where we are in the cycle and what we see out there, it feels like we're somewhere in the fourth, fifth inning, but probably in a bit of a rain delay, if that makes sense. With the idea being the digestion of the higher rates seems to be on the come. I think that people still have a viewpoint out there that there may be reason in the future for rates to either stabilize or come down some bit, but the inflationary pressures are real. What that leads us to is to continue to avoid heavy CapEx-intensive assets.

Bryan Donohoe: Yeah. Thanks for the question, Jade. I'll start with overall market view and then come back to your question on portfolio a little bit. I guess to start with it, in terms of where we are in the cycle and what we see out there, it feels like we're somewhere in the fourth, fifth inning, but probably in a bit of a rain delay, if that makes sense. With the idea being the digestion of the higher rates seems to be on the come. I think that people still have a viewpoint out there that there may be reason in the future for rates to either stabilize or come down some bit, but the inflationary pressures are real. What that leads us to is to continue to avoid heavy CapEx-intensive assets.

Speaker #4: With the idea being the digestion of the higher rates seems to be on the come, I think that people still have a viewpoint out there that there may be reason in the future for rates to either stabilize or come down some bit.

Speaker #4: But the inflationary pressures are real. What that leads us to is to continue to avoid heavy, capex-intensive assets. And while there's always something to do in the addressable universe of real estate, it isn’t always the same thing, right?

Bryan Donohoe: While there's always something to do in the addressable universe of real estate, it isn't always the same thing, right? Whether it's equity or credit that we dig into more or less, I think humbly recognizing the cyclicality of our business is a really important attribute of what we've created at Ares in terms of our participation in real estate. I think there's still growth to create out there on the equity side of the ledger, but it is much more intensive at the actual asset level, so the operating expertise is more important than it was in prior cycles. I think we additionally humbly recognize that the disparity of outcomes on certain assets is candidly broader than it was in prior cycles. I think there's still plenty to do as we reflect in the refinancing side.

Bryan Donohoe: While there's always something to do in the addressable universe of real estate, it isn't always the same thing, right? Whether it's equity or credit that we dig into more or less, I think humbly recognizing the cyclicality of our business is a really important attribute of what we've created at Ares in terms of our participation in real estate. I think there's still growth to create out there on the equity side of the ledger, but it is much more intensive at the actual asset level, so the operating expertise is more important than it was in prior cycles. I think we additionally humbly recognize that the disparity of outcomes on certain assets is candidly broader than it was in prior cycles. I think there's still plenty to do as we reflect in the refinancing side.

Speaker #4: So whether it's equity or credit that we dig into more or less, I think humbly recognizing the cyclicality of our business is a really important attribute of what we've created at Ares in terms of our participation in real estate.

Speaker #4: So I think there's still growth to create out there on the equity side of the ledger, but it is much more intensive at the actual asset level.

Speaker #4: So, the operating expertise is more important than it was in prior cycles. And I think we also humbly recognize that the disparity of outcomes on certain assets is, candidly, broader than it was in prior cycles.

Speaker #4: So I think there's still plenty to do as we reflect on the refinancing side. Acquisitions certainly slowed for the broader market as a whole at the end of Q1 and into Q2.

Bryan Donohoe: Acquisitions certainly slowed for the broader market as a whole in end of Q1 and into Q2, we're still in a digestion phase for geopolitics and where rates are. I was looking at the yen versus dollar chart last night. There's more questions out there that I think we, as an industry and as an economy, need to answer.

Bryan Donohoe: Acquisitions certainly slowed for the broader market as a whole in end of Q1 and into Q2, we're still in a digestion phase for geopolitics and where rates are. I was looking at the yen versus dollar chart last night. There's more questions out there that I think we, as an industry and as an economy, need to answer.

Speaker #4: But we're still in a digestion phase for geopolitics and where rates are. And I was looking at the yen versus dollar chart last night.

Speaker #4: There are more questions out there that I think we, as an industry and as an economy, need to answer.

Speaker #2: And just the follow-up would be, any pressure on the Risk 3 side? It didn't sound like you had seen anything. Maybe you could also comment on industrial, since we haven't really seen pressure in that space.

Jade Rahmani: Just the follow-up would be any pressure on the risk 3 side? It didn't sound like you had seen anything. Maybe you could also comment on the industrial, since we haven't really seen pressure in that space.

Jade Rahmani: Just the follow-up would be any pressure on the risk 3 side? It didn't sound like you had seen anything. Maybe you could also comment on the industrial, since we haven't really seen pressure in that space.

Speaker #4: Yeah, I think we have consistently come to you and the team with what we think is, as of the moment, going on in the market and in our portfolio.

Bryan Donohoe: I think we have consistently come to you and the team around what we think is, as of the moment, going on in the market in our portfolio, that is reflected in the risk ratings that you see today. That takes into account market rates, borrower behavior, loan structure, and the like. I think, as I said a minute ago, it does recognize or we've positioned the balance sheet to be able to allow for changes in that, right? I think there has been a very dynamic marketplace for us to digest over the past 3 years. Absolutely, the risk-graded ones through I wouldn't say any loan is not impacted by the change in rates, but those impacts are part of the calculation for what goes into that risk rating.

Bryan Donohoe: I think we have consistently come to you and the team around what we think is, as of the moment, going on in the market in our portfolio, that is reflected in the risk ratings that you see today. That takes into account market rates, borrower behavior, loan structure, and the like. I think, as I said a minute ago, it does recognize or we've positioned the balance sheet to be able to allow for changes in that, right? I think there has been a very dynamic marketplace for us to digest over the past 3 years. Absolutely, the risk-graded ones through I wouldn't say any loan is not impacted by the change in rates, but those impacts are part of the calculation for what goes into that risk rating.

Speaker #4: And that is reflected in the risk ratings that you see today. That takes into account market rates, borrower behavior, loan structure, and the like.

Speaker #4: And I think, as I said a minute ago, it does recognize—or we've positioned the balance sheet to be able to allow for changes in that, right?

Speaker #4: Because I think there has been a very dynamic marketplace for us to digest over the past three years. So absolutely, the risk rated 1 to 3, I wouldn't say any loan is not impacted by the change in rates.

Speaker #4: But those impacts are part of the calculation for what goes into that risk rating. In terms of logistics, I think it is still asset to asset and market to market.

Bryan Donohoe: In terms of logistics, I think it is still asset to asset and market to market. We have been extremely active across the board, equity and debt, in the sector. Given the higher rates, which equates to higher carry costs, I would say that the timeline that one might be willing to wait to mark-to-market rents, if you start with the premise that rents have gone up over the past 5 to 7 years, the capture of that mark-to-market is going to be shorter in nature than it would have been with lower rates, if that makes sense. There are pressures in the Inland Empire in certain sub-markets. Largely speaking, we still feel very comfortable with the reduction in supply in that marketplace and the long-term viability of Class A industrial around the country.

Bryan Donohoe: In terms of logistics, I think it is still asset to asset and market to market. We have been extremely active across the board, equity and debt, in the sector. Given the higher rates, which equates to higher carry costs, I would say that the timeline that one might be willing to wait to mark-to-market rents, if you start with the premise that rents have gone up over the past 5 to 7 years, the capture of that mark-to-market is going to be shorter in nature than it would have been with lower rates, if that makes sense. There are pressures in the Inland Empire in certain sub-markets. Largely speaking, we still feel very comfortable with the reduction in supply in that marketplace and the long-term viability of Class A industrial around the country.

Speaker #4: We have been extremely active across the board, equity and debt, in the sector. But given the higher rates—which equate to higher carry costs—I would say that the timeline that one might be willing to wait to mark to market rents, right?

Speaker #4: If you start with the premise that rents have gone up over the past five to seven years, the capture of that mark to market is going to be shorter in nature than it would have been with lower rates if that makes sense.

Speaker #4: There are pressures in Inland Empire in certain submarkets, but, largely speaking, we still feel very comfortable with the reduction in supply in that marketplace and the long-term viability of Class A industrial around the country.

Speaker #2: Thanks very much.

Jade Rahmani: Thanks very much.

Jade Rahmani: Thanks very much.

Speaker #4: Thanks, Jade.

Bryan Donohoe: Thanks, Jay.

Bryan Donohoe: Thanks, Jay.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question will come from Rick Shane with JP Morgan. Your line is open.

Operator 3: Thank you. Our next question will come from Rick Shane with JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question will come from Rick Shane with JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Speaker #5: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions this morning. First of all—and I'm not big on compliments on earnings calls—but I will throw one out here.

Rachel Smith: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions this morning. First of all, I'm not big on compliments on earnings calls, but I will throw one out here. Finding a twist on Wall Street's favorite metaphor of what inning are we in, I got to give you credit for that one. Thank you for making us smile with that. In terms of real questions, a year ago, you guys had $120 million worth of reserves. In the last 12 months, I think you've realized about $5 million of actual losses. The reserve has gone up to about $140 million since then. Again, very conservative, but ultimately the opportunity here is to recycle the capital that is tied up in the non-accruing loans. It sounds like Chicago, which represents about 30% of the reserve, should be resolved fairly quickly.

Rick Shane: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions this morning. First of all, I'm not big on compliments on earnings calls, but I will throw one out here. Finding a twist on Wall Street's favorite metaphor of what inning are we in, I got to give you credit for that one. Thank you for making us smile with that. In terms of real questions, a year ago, you guys had $120 million worth of reserves. In the last 12 months, I think you've realized about $5 million of actual losses. The reserve has gone up to about $140 million since then. Again, very conservative, but ultimately the opportunity here is to recycle the capital that is tied up in the non-accruing loans. It sounds like Chicago, which represents about 30% of the reserve, should be resolved fairly quickly.

Speaker #5: Finding a twist on Wall Street’s favorite metaphor—'what inning are we in?'—I have to give you credit for that one. So thank you for making us smile with that.

Speaker #5: In terms of real questions, a year ago you guys had $120 million worth of reserves. In the last 12 months, I think you've realized about $5 million of actual losses.

Speaker #5: The reserve has gone up to about $140 million since then. Again, very conservative, but ultimately the opportunity here is to recycle the capital that is tied up in the non-accruing loans.

Speaker #5: It sounds like Chicago, which represents about 30% of the reserve, should be resolved fairly quickly. What is the cadence that we should expect for recycling of the remaining four- and five-rated loans over the next, call it, 12 to 18 months?

Rachel Smith: What is the cadence that we should expect for recycling of the remaining four and five-rated loans over the next, call it, 12 to 18 months?

Rick Shane: What is the cadence that we should expect for recycling of the remaining four and five-rated loans over the next, call it, 12 to 18 months?

Speaker #4: Yeah. It's a great question. Rick, I'd say that I think we said we have narrowed these we feel like we've narrowed these potential outcomes, but we've consistently over the past few years positioned the balance sheet to allow for something unforeseen to occur because I feel like that has occurred in the broader real estate market over the past few years.

Bryan Donohoe: Yeah, it's a great question, Rick. I'd say that, look, I think we said we feel like we've narrowed these potential outcomes, but we've consistently, over the past few years, positioned the balance sheet to allow for something unforeseen to occur, because I feel like that has occurred in the broader real estate market over the past few years. I'm going to start with that. You're right that the redeployment of if all goes to plan and you're able to resolve that loan, you reduce the office allocation by another 50% or thereabout and free up capital to reinvest. That is the charge. That's what we set forth to do years ago, and we addressed that in the prepared remarks. I think in terms of the build-back, Jeff, maybe you want to opine in terms of what that leads to.

Bryan Donohoe: Yeah, it's a great question, Rick. I'd say that, look, I think we said we feel like we've narrowed these potential outcomes, but we've consistently, over the past few years, positioned the balance sheet to allow for something unforeseen to occur, because I feel like that has occurred in the broader real estate market over the past few years. I'm going to start with that. You're right that the redeployment of if all goes to plan and you're able to resolve that loan, you reduce the office allocation by another 50% or thereabout and free up capital to reinvest. That is the charge. That's what we set forth to do years ago, and we addressed that in the prepared remarks. I think in terms of the build-back, Jeff, maybe you want to opine in terms of what that leads to.

Speaker #4: So I want to start with that. You're right that with the redeployment, if all goes to plan and you're able to resolve that loan, you reduce the office allocation by another 50% or thereabouts, and free up capital to reinvest.

Speaker #4: That is the charge; that's what we set forth to do years ago, and we addressed that in the prepared remarks. So, I think in terms of the build-back—Jeff, maybe you want to opine in terms of what that leads to?

Speaker #4: But the conditions precedent—I think we did a good job framing it, Rick, in terms of getting through those assets over the period of time that they allow for.

Bryan Donohoe: The conditions precedent, I think we did a good job framing, Rick, in terms of getting through those assets over the period of time that they allow for.

Bryan Donohoe: The conditions precedent, I think we did a good job framing, Rick, in terms of getting through those assets over the period of time that they allow for.

Speaker #5: Yeah, no, so I think we have significant earnings potential tied up in those four- and five-rated loans. I think we said in our prepared remarks it was about $150 million.

Jeff Gonzales: Yeah. As Bryan said, I think we have a significant earnings potential tied up in those four and five-rated loans. I think we said in our prepared remarks it was about $150-ish million. I think it'll happen in stages as we resolve these four and five-rated loans that we will increase our earnings up to the dividend level and eventually beyond it. We are hyper-focused on resolving those as efficiently as possible and getting that capital back to deploying in interest-earning loans.

Jeff Gonzales: Yeah. As Bryan said, I think we have a significant earnings potential tied up in those four and five-rated loans. I think we said in our prepared remarks it was about $150-ish million. I think it'll happen in stages as we resolve these four and five-rated loans that we will increase our earnings up to the dividend level and eventually beyond it. We are hyper-focused on resolving those as efficiently as possible and getting that capital back to deploying in interest-earning loans.

Speaker #5: So, I think it'll happen in stages, as we resolve these four- and five-rated loans, that we will increase our earnings up to the dividend level and eventually beyond it.

Speaker #5: So, we are hyper-focused on resolving those as efficiently as possible and getting that capital back to deploying and interest-earning loans.

Speaker #4: Yeah. And I think, Rick, here, right? If you had a much larger, more granular portfolio, you'd point to averages and kind of smooth things out over a period of time.

Bryan Donohoe: Yeah. I think, Rick, here, right, is if you had a much larger granular portfolio, you'd point to averages and kind of run things off over a period of time. We have isolated these loans, and they are somewhat idiosyncratic. What we've attempted to do is not count it till it's done, but work very hard to accelerate those resolutions. It's tough to point to a regular cadence. Obviously, we wish it was faster, a lot of what we're going to deal with over the coming quarters is how can we accelerate those resolutions, and then how quickly can we redeploy. It's difficult to point to a consistent cadence given almost the idiosyncratic nature of each of them and the behaviors that sit behind those assets.

Bryan Donohoe: Yeah. I think, Rick, here, right, is if you had a much larger granular portfolio, you'd point to averages and kind of run things off over a period of time. We have isolated these loans, and they are somewhat idiosyncratic. What we've attempted to do is not count it till it's done, but work very hard to accelerate those resolutions. It's tough to point to a regular cadence. Obviously, we wish it was faster, a lot of what we're going to deal with over the coming quarters is how can we accelerate those resolutions, and then how quickly can we redeploy. It's difficult to point to a consistent cadence given almost the idiosyncratic nature of each of them and the behaviors that sit behind those assets.

Speaker #4: We have isolated these loans, and they are somewhat idiosyncratic. So, what we've attempted to do is not count it till it's done, but work very hard to accelerate those resolutions.

Speaker #4: So, it's tough to point to a regular cadence. Obviously, we wish it was faster, but a lot of what we're going to deal with over the coming quarters is how we can accelerate those resolutions.

Speaker #4: And then, how quickly can we redeploy? But it's difficult to point to a consistent cadence, given almost the idiosyncratic nature of each of them and the behaviors that sit behind those assets.

Speaker #5: Fair enough. And again, look, having them fully reserved is the foundation for being able to achieve that. And Bryan, you made a comment that I thought was interesting.

Rachel Smith: Fair enough. Again, look, having them fully reserved is the foundation for being able to achieve that. Brian, you made a comment that I thought was interesting. You talked about sort of the dispersion in terms of valuations across the industry. When we think about, loan types isn't the right word, but transaction types, whether it is a new development, a sort of traditional refi, or a workout resolution, is that dispersion particularly pronounced? Is that one of the things that sort of drives the slower timeline on resolutions right now?

Rick Shane: Fair enough. Again, look, having them fully reserved is the foundation for being able to achieve that. Brian, you made a comment that I thought was interesting. You talked about sort of the dispersion in terms of valuations across the industry. When we think about, loan types isn't the right word, but transaction types, whether it is a new development, a sort of traditional refi, or a workout resolution, is that dispersion particularly pronounced? Is that one of the things that sort of drives the slower timeline on resolutions right now?

Speaker #5: You talked about sort of the dispersion in terms of valuations across the industry. When we think about loan types isn't the right word, but transaction types, whether it is a new development, a sort of traditional refi or a workout resolution, is that dispersion particularly pronounced?

Speaker #5: Is that one of the things that sort of drives the slower timeline on resolutions right now?

Speaker #4: Well, it certainly drove our approach to the balance sheet, right? We felt like, I think if I go back, assets in this cycle have been more broad than typical reserves would have provided for, right?

Bryan Donohoe: Well, it certainly drove our approach to the balance sheet, right? We felt like I think if I go back in history, the loss severity of certain assets in this cycle has been more broad than typical reserves would have provided for. We saw an orphaning of life science assets given what went on with the credits underlying the tenancy there, as well as very heavy CapEx. We see massive dispersion from Park Ave to Third Avenue on office sector. Based on that higher loss severity, we wanted to position the balance sheet to allow for those outcomes. Certainly to your specific question, absolutely, that dispersion will impact velocity.

Bryan Donohoe: Well, it certainly drove our approach to the balance sheet, right? We felt like I think if I go back in history, the loss severity of certain assets in this cycle has been more broad than typical reserves would have provided for. We saw an orphaning of life science assets given what went on with the credits underlying the tenancy there, as well as very heavy CapEx. We see massive dispersion from Park Ave to Third Avenue on office sector. Based on that higher loss severity, we wanted to position the balance sheet to allow for those outcomes. Certainly to your specific question, absolutely, that dispersion will impact velocity.

Speaker #4: We saw an orphaning of life science assets, given what went on with the credits underlying the tendency there, as well as very heavy capex.

Speaker #4: We see massive dispersion from Park Avenue to 3rd Avenue in the office sector. And so, based on that higher loss severity, we wanted to position the balance sheet to allow for those outcomes.

Speaker #4: But certainly, to your specific question, absolutely, that dispersion will impact velocity.

Speaker #5: Got it, thank you. And then, very last question: implicitly, it looks like the new fundings in the quarter were put on with about a 75 basis point CECL reserve.

Rachel Smith: Got it. Thank you. Very last question. Implicitly, it looks like the new fundings in the quarter were put on with about a 75 basis point CECL reserve. Is that correct? Is that sort of what we should expect for new originations in this environment as you start to build the balance sheet again?

Rick Shane: Got it. Thank you. Very last question. Implicitly, it looks like the new fundings in the quarter were put on with about a 75 basis point CECL reserve. Is that correct? Is that sort of what we should expect for new originations in this environment as you start to build the balance sheet again?

Speaker #5: Is that correct? And is that what we should expect for new originations in this environment as you start to build the balance sheet again?

Jeff Gonzales: I think typically you should expect to see on a standard 3-year floating-rate loan around 100 basis points reserve at closing. That's typically what we see, and it usually is lower if it's below a 3-year term.

Jeff Gonzales: I think typically you should expect to see on a standard 3-year floating-rate loan around 100 basis points reserve at closing. That's typically what we see, and it usually is lower if it's below a 3-year term.

Speaker #3: Typically, you should expect to see, on a standard three-year floating rate loan, around 100 basis points reserve at closing. That's typically what we see.

Speaker #3: And that it usually is lower if it's not a—if it's below a three-year term.

Speaker #5: Got it. And is that what drove it lower this quarter?

Rachel Smith: Got it. Is that what drove it lower this quarter?

Rick Shane: Got it. Is that what drove it lower this quarter?

Speaker #3: Correct. One of the loans had a two-year initial term on it.

Jeff Gonzales: Correct. One of the loans had a 2-year initial term on it.

Jeff Gonzales: Correct. One of the loans had a 2-year initial term on it.

Speaker #5: Perfect. Okay. Appreciate it, guys. Thank you so much.

Rachel Smith: Perfect. Okay. Appreciate it, guys. Thank you so much.

Rick Shane: Perfect. Okay. Appreciate it, guys. Thank you so much.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from Gabe Poggi with Raymond James. Your line is open.

Operator 3: Thank you. Our next question comes from Gabe Poggi with Raymond James. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Gabe Poggi with Raymond James. Your line is open.

Speaker #6: Hey, all. Thanks for taking the question. I kind of want to piggyback on what Jade and Rick were asking about and just think about the go-forward.

Gabe Poggi: Hey, all. Thanks for taking the question. I kind of want to piggyback on what Jade and Rick were asking about and just think about the go forward if you're successful with some of this capital recycling. How do you think about in conjunction with the world we live in and geopolitics and rate vol, et cetera, how should we think about today's kind of go forward return on equity profile for the REIT? I think about where the dividend is set today, where DE is today, the ability to recycle capital and get above it, how do you think about what the right level is from a risk-adjusted return perspective in the here and now?

Gabe Poggi: Hey, all. Thanks for taking the question. I kind of want to piggyback on what Jade and Rick were asking about and just think about the go forward if you're successful with some of this capital recycling. How do you think about in conjunction with the world we live in and geopolitics and rate vol, et cetera, how should we think about today's kind of go forward return on equity profile for the REIT? I think about where the dividend is set today, where DE is today, the ability to recycle capital and get above it, how do you think about what the right level is from a risk-adjusted return perspective in the here and now?

Speaker #6: If you’re successful with some of this capital recycling, how do you think about it in conjunction with the world we live in—and geopolitics and rate vol, etc.?

Speaker #6: How should we think about today's go-forward return on equity profile for the REIT? If I consider where the dividend is set today, where DE is today, and the ability to recycle capital and get above that, how do you think about what the right level is from a risk-adjusted return perspective in the here and now?

Speaker #4: That's a great question, Chris. Let me have Jeff walk through the math of how we build back the book, if you will, and then I'll talk markets, if that works for you.

Bryan Donohoe: It's a great question, Chris. I'll have Jeff walk through the math of how we build back the book, if you will, then I'll talk markets, if that works for you.

Bryan Donohoe: It's a great question, Chris. I'll have Jeff walk through the math of how we build back the book, if you will, then I'll talk markets, if that works for you.

Speaker #6: Sure.

Jeff Gonzales: Sure. Yeah. Just going back, we did reset our dividend last year to more closely align with our strategic objective of building liquidity, reducing leverage. We troughed at a DE ratio of about 1.1 a year ago, we positioned ourself to start investing again over that time as we mentioned in our prepared remarks. We've originated 900 million over the last 12 months of new loans. I think we've built up to the earnings to a higher amount, we are working through those four and five-rated loans. It'll happen in stages. It takes one, I would say, to probably get us to a point of hitting the dividend as soon as we have the capital deployed again.

Jeff Gonzales: Sure. Yeah. Just going back, we did reset our dividend last year to more closely align with our strategic objective of building liquidity, reducing leverage. We troughed at a DE ratio of about 1.1 a year ago, we positioned ourself to start investing again over that time as we mentioned in our prepared remarks. We've originated 900 million over the last 12 months of new loans. I think we've built up to the earnings to a higher amount, we are working through those four and five-rated loans. It'll happen in stages. It takes one, I would say, to probably get us to a point of hitting the dividend as soon as we have the capital deployed again.

Speaker #5: Yeah, so I think we should—yeah, just going back, we did reset our dividend last year to more closely align with our strategic objective of building liquidity and reducing leverage.

Speaker #5: So, we troughed at a debt-to-equity ratio of about 1.1 a year ago, and we positioned ourselves to start investing again over that time, as we mentioned.

Speaker #5: In our prepared remarks, we've originated $900 million over the last 12 months of new loans. So I think we've built up the earnings to a higher amount.

Speaker #5: And we are working through those four- and five-rated loans. It'll happen in stages. If it takes one, I would say, to probably get us to a point of hitting the dividend as soon as we have the capital deployed again.

Speaker #5: And then, over a longer-term period, as we resolve the remaining four- and five-rated loans, we expect to get back to our historical ROE of about 9 to 10 percent on our book.

Jeff Gonzales: Over a longer-term period, as we resolve the remaining four and five-rated loans, we expect to get back to our historical ROE of about 9% to 10% on our book.

Jeff Gonzales: Over a longer-term period, as we resolve the remaining four and five-rated loans, we expect to get back to our historical ROE of about 9% to 10% on our book.

Speaker #4: Yeah, and maybe, Chris, I'll just pile on in terms of the market landscape. I think we've proven with the $900 million of deployment that Jeff referenced that we have found more than enough to originate to service the capital base of ACRE.

Bryan Donohoe: Yeah. Maybe, Chris, I'll just pile on in terms of the market landscape. I think we've proven with the $900 million of deployment that Jeff references that we have found more than enough to originate to service the capital base of ACRE. We have a massive addressable universe of $7 trillion of transactions across the US and Europe that our platform invests in, therefore the scale of this platform is very ably serviced by the team that we've created. In terms of the ROE, I think what we are seeking out is certainly those high single-digit net returns. I think that we've proven that is achievable, and how you achieve that can ebb and flow to some degree with the use of back leverage and things like that. There's a lot of ways to create that yield.

Bryan Donohoe: Yeah. Maybe, Chris, I'll just pile on in terms of the market landscape. I think we've proven with the $900 million of deployment that Jeff references that we have found more than enough to originate to service the capital base of ACRE. We have a massive addressable universe of $7 trillion of transactions across the US and Europe that our platform invests in, therefore the scale of this platform is very ably serviced by the team that we've created. In terms of the ROE, I think what we are seeking out is certainly those high single-digit net returns. I think that we've proven that is achievable, and how you achieve that can ebb and flow to some degree with the use of back leverage and things like that. There's a lot of ways to create that yield.

Speaker #4: We have a massive addressable universe of $7 trillion of transactions across the US and Europe that our platform invests in. Therefore, the scale of this platform is very ably serviced by the team that we've created.

Speaker #4: In terms of the ROE, I think what we are seeking out is certainly those high single-digit net returns. I think that we've proven that is achievable.

Speaker #4: And how you achieve that can ebb and flow to some degree with the use of back leverage and things like that. So, there are a lot of ways to create that yield, but I believe what we are attempting to do is create a much more diversified company in terms of smaller portions of assets comprising that baseline.

Bryan Donohoe: I believe what we are attempting to do is create a much more diversified company in terms of smaller portions of assets comprising that baseline, creating a very stable and consistent income profile that the market provides for. I don't think that the market and investors will reward risk-taking when it is not available and is not going to create that durable income profile. Hopefully that's helpful from a partially macro view of how we're thinking about it.

Bryan Donohoe: I believe what we are attempting to do is create a much more diversified company in terms of smaller portions of assets comprising that baseline, creating a very stable and consistent income profile that the market provides for. I don't think that the market and investors will reward risk-taking when it is not available and is not going to create that durable income profile. Hopefully that's helpful from a partially macro view of how we're thinking about it.

Speaker #4: And then, creating a very stable and consistent income profile that the market provides for. I don't think that the market and investors will reward risk-taking when it is not available and is not going to create that durable income profile.

Speaker #4: So hopefully, that's helpful from a partial macro view of how we're thinking about it.

Speaker #6: Yeah. Thanks very much.

Gabe Poggi: Yeah. Thanks very much.

Gabe Poggi: Yeah. Thanks very much.

Speaker #4: Thanks, Chris.

Bryan Donohoe: Thanks, Chris.

Bryan Donohoe: Thanks, Chris.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question will come from Chris Mueller with Citizens Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Operator 3: Thank you. Our next question will come from Chris Muller with Citizens Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question will come from Chris Muller with Citizens Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Speaker #7: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the questions, and congrats on a solid quarter. It's nice to see the market rewarding your guys' stock today. I guess on the Chicago five-rated loan—so, there's been a note in the slide deck for several quarters now about them engaging in a sales process.

Chris Muller: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on a solid quarter. It's nice to see the market rewarding your guys' stock today. I guess on the Chicago five-rated loan. There's been a note in the slide deck for several quarters now about them engaging in a sales process, and you guys mentioned that in your prepared remarks as well. I guess the question is, how patient are you guys willing to be on this asset versus just taking it back yourselves? Is that three-month extension what we should be watching for more clarity on that path forward?

Chris Muller: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on a solid quarter. It's nice to see the market rewarding your guys' stock today. I guess on the Chicago five-rated loan. There's been a note in the slide deck for several quarters now about them engaging in a sales process, and you guys mentioned that in your prepared remarks as well. I guess the question is, how patient are you guys willing to be on this asset versus just taking it back yourselves? Is that three-month extension what we should be watching for more clarity on that path forward?

Speaker #7: And you guys mentioned that in your prepared remarks as well. But I guess the question is, how patient are you guys willing to be on this asset versus just taking it back yourselves?

Speaker #7: Is that three-month extension what we should be watching for, for more clarity on that path forward?

Speaker #4: I think we mentioned it because it's the best indication, right? We remain the lender there. Obviously, the result is frustrating. The timeline has been frustrating.

Bryan Donohoe: I think we mention it because it's the best indication. We remain the lender there. Obviously, the result is frustrating. The timeline has been frustrating, we do feel encouraged by where it's gone. That timeline, I think is as reflective of the expected outcome as we can put forth today. As I mentioned, I think in Jade's question around the risk rating, it's reflective of everything we know when we know it, I do think, and we mentioned in the prepared remarks a little bit around that nascent recovery, certainly a bifurcation of assets that either have leasing and are relevant assets to a potential tenant in the market versus those that have a very heavy CapEx cycle in front of them to make them relevant buildings again.

Bryan Donohoe: I think we mention it because it's the best indication. We remain the lender there. Obviously, the result is frustrating. The timeline has been frustrating, we do feel encouraged by where it's gone. That timeline, I think is as reflective of the expected outcome as we can put forth today. As I mentioned, I think in Jade's question around the risk rating, it's reflective of everything we know when we know it, I do think, and we mentioned in the prepared remarks a little bit around that nascent recovery, certainly a bifurcation of assets that either have leasing and are relevant assets to a potential tenant in the market versus those that have a very heavy CapEx cycle in front of them to make them relevant buildings again.

Speaker #4: But we do feel encouraged by where it's gone, and that timeline, I think, is as reflective of the expected outcome as we can put forth today, right, as I mentioned.

Speaker #4: I think in Jade's question around the risk rating, it's reflective of everything we know when we know it. I do think, and we mentioned in the prepared remarks, a little bit around that nascent recovery—certainly a bifurcation of assets that either have leasing and are relevant assets to a potential tenant in the market, versus those that have a very heavy capex cycle in front of them to make them relevant buildings again.

Speaker #4: But when we combine what this building's leasing profile is, especially when you look at the yield versus our reserve hold position, I think we would like to exit.

Bryan Donohoe: When we combine what this building's leasing profile is, especially when you look at the yield versus our reserve hold position, I think we would like to exit, but at the same time, the credit quality and that durable income profile with the 7 years of WALT remaining gives us a good bit of comfort that if it doesn't come to fruition, we can still create an accretive asset for our position moving forward. We are hopeful and encouraged, but we also like the relative position and the cash flow profile of the asset.

Bryan Donohoe: When we combine what this building's leasing profile is, especially when you look at the yield versus our reserve hold position, I think we would like to exit, but at the same time, the credit quality and that durable income profile with the 7 years of WALT remaining gives us a good bit of comfort that if it doesn't come to fruition, we can still create an accretive asset for our position moving forward. We are hopeful and encouraged, but we also like the relative position and the cash flow profile of the asset.

Speaker #4: But at the same time, the credit quality and that durable income profile with the seven years of WAL remaining gives us a good bit of comfort that if it doesn't come to fruition, we can still create an accretive asset for our position moving forward.

Speaker #4: So we are hopeful and encouraged, but we also like the relative position and the cash flow profile of the asset.

Speaker #7: Got it. That's helpful. And then, maybe changing gears a little bit—on the held-for-sale loan strategy, are these transactions pre-negotiated, or are you taking on some risk if the market moves dramatically while those loans are on your balance sheet before you can sell them off?

Chris Muller: Got it. That's helpful. Maybe changing gears a little bit. On the held-for-sale loan strategy, are these transactions pre-negotiated, or are you guys taking on some risk if the market moves dramatically while those loans are on your balance sheet before you can sell it off?

Chris Muller: Got it. That's helpful. Maybe changing gears a little bit. On the held-for-sale loan strategy, are these transactions pre-negotiated, or are you guys taking on some risk if the market moves dramatically while those loans are on your balance sheet before you can sell it off?

Speaker #4: Yeah, that's a great question. So I don't want to say there's certainty—if we entered into a period of volatility, we would consider that.

Bryan Donohoe: Yeah, it's a great question. Certainly if we entered into a period of volatility, we would consider that. I think we generally have a view of the potential outcomes in the homes for those assets, but they are not fully baked, if that makes sense. There is short duration risk, but obviously since we end up holding that loan, we begin the day liking the underlying collateral and position as it relates to overall profile, and we feel like they are liquid positions on the other side.

Bryan Donohoe: Yeah, it's a great question. Certainly if we entered into a period of volatility, we would consider that. I think we generally have a view of the potential outcomes in the homes for those assets, but they are not fully baked, if that makes sense. There is short duration risk, but obviously since we end up holding that loan, we begin the day liking the underlying collateral and position as it relates to overall profile, and we feel like they are liquid positions on the other side.

Speaker #4: It is. I think we generally have a view of the potential outcomes and the homes for those assets, but they are not fully baked, if that makes sense.

Speaker #4: So, there is short-duration risk, but obviously, since we end up holding that loan, we begin the day liking the underlying collateral and position as it relates to the overall profile.

Speaker #4: And we feel like they are liquid positions on the other side.

Speaker #5: And just to add to that, the typical hold period ranges between 30 to 120 days, so it's not a significant period of time that we're holding these.

Jeff Gonzales: Just to add to that, typical hold period ranges between 30 to 120 days. It's not a significant period of time that we're holding these.

Jeff Gonzales: Just to add to that, typical hold period ranges between 30 to 120 days. It's not a significant period of time that we're holding these.

Speaker #7: Okay, that's very helpful context. I appreciate you guys taking the questions today.

Chris Muller: Okay. That's very helpful context. Appreciate you guys taking the questions today.

Chris Muller: Okay. That's very helpful context. Appreciate you guys taking the questions today.

Speaker #1: Thank you once again. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your keypad now. We do have a follow-up from Jade Rahmani with KBW.

Operator 3: Thank you. Once again, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your keypad now. We do have a follow-up from Jade Rahmani with KBW. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. Once again, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your keypad now. We do have a follow-up from Jade Rahmani with KBW. Your line is open.

Speaker #1: Your line is open.

Speaker #6: Thanks very much. Can you give an update on the Brooklyn condo and if there's pre-sales marketing or anything of that nature? Any initial indications as to how it's going?

Jade Rahmani: Thanks very much. Can you give an update on the Brooklyn condo and if there's pre-sales marketing or anything of that nature, like any initial indications as to how it's going?

Jade Rahmani: Thanks very much. Can you give an update on the Brooklyn condo and if there's pre-sales marketing or anything of that nature, like any initial indications as to how it's going?

Speaker #4: Yeah. We have entered into the typical pre-sale period for the condominium. It is obviously the summer months can be a little bit slower, but we have been I'd say we look forward to an acceleration, but we have entered that pre-sale period.

Bryan Donohoe: Yeah. We have entered into the typical pre-sale period for the condominium. Obviously the summer months can be a little bit slower. I'd say we look forward to an acceleration, but we have entered that pre-sale period and no issues thus as we sit here today in terms of velocity or price.

Bryan Donohoe: Yeah. We have entered into the typical pre-sale period for the condominium. Obviously the summer months can be a little bit slower. I'd say we look forward to an acceleration, but we have entered that pre-sale period and no issues thus as we sit here today in terms of velocity or price.

Speaker #4: And no issues thus far as we sit here today in terms of velocity or price.

Speaker #6: Thank you.

Jade Rahmani: Thank you.

Jade Rahmani: Thank you.

Speaker #4: You're welcome.

Bryan Donohoe: You're welcome.

Bryan Donohoe: You're welcome.

Speaker #1: Thank you. At this time, this concludes our question and answer session. I would now like to turn the meeting back over to Bryan Donohoe for any closing remarks.

Operator 3: Thank you. At this time, this concludes our question and answer session. I would now like to turn the meeting back over to Bryan Donohoe for any closing remarks.

Operator: Thank you. At this time, this concludes our question and answer session. I would now like to turn the meeting back over to Bryan Donohoe for any closing remarks.

Speaker #4: Thank you very much. I also want to thank everyone for their time today. We appreciate your continued support of Ares Commercial Real Estate.

Bryan Donohoe: Thank you very much, and I want to just thank everybody for their time today. We appreciate your continued support of Ares Commercial Real Estate and look forward to speaking with you again on our next earnings call. Thank you and have a good day.

Bryan Donohoe: Thank you very much, and I want to just thank everybody for their time today. We appreciate your continued support of Ares Commercial Real Estate and look forward to speaking with you again on our next earnings call. Thank you and have a good day.

Speaker #4: And we look forward to speaking with you again on our next earnings call. Thank you, and have a good day.

Speaker #1: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our conference call today. If you missed any part of today's call, an archived replay of this conference call will be available approximately one hour after the end of this call, through September 4, 2026.

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