Q3 2026 Texas Instruments Inc Earnings Call
Mike Beckman: Welcome to the Texas Instruments Q3 2026 earnings conference call. I am Mike Beckman, head of Investor Relations, and I am joined by our Chief Executive Officer, Haviv Ilan, and our Chief Financial Officer, Julie Knecht. For any of you who missed the release, you can find it on our website at ti.com/ir. This call is being broadcast live over the web and can be accessed through our website. In addition, today's call is being recorded and will be available via replay on our website. This call will include forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause TI's results to differ materially from management's current expectations. We encourage you to review the notice regarding forward-looking statements contained in the earnings release published today, as well as TI's most recent SEC filings for a more complete description. Today, we will provide the following updates.
Mike Beckman: Welcome to the Texas Instruments Q3 2026 earnings conference call. I am Mike Beckman, head of Investor Relations, and I am joined by our Chief Executive Officer, Haviv Ilan, and our Chief Financial Officer, Julie Knecht. For any of you who missed the release, you can find it on our website at ti.com/ir. This call is being broadcast live over the web and can be accessed through our website. In addition, today's call is being recorded and will be available via replay on our website. This call will include forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause TI's results to differ materially from management's current expectations. We encourage you to review the notice regarding forward-looking statements contained in the earnings release published today, as well as TI's most recent SEC filings for a more complete description. Today, we will provide the following updates.
Speaker #1: Welcome to the Texas Instruments 3rd Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. I'm Mike Beckman, Head of Investor Relations, and I'm joined by our Chief Executive Officer, Haviv Ilan, and our Chief Financial Officer, Julie Canette.
Speaker #1: For anyone who missed the release, you can find it on our website at ti.com/ir. This call is being broadcast live over the web and can be accessed through our website.
Speaker #1: In addition, today's call is being recorded and will be available via replay on our website. This call will include forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause TI's results to differ materially from management's current expectations.
Speaker #1: We encourage you to review the notice regarding forward-looking statements contained in the earnings release published today, as well as TI's most recent SEC filings, for a more complete description.
Speaker #1: Today, we'll provide the following updates: First, Haviv will start with a quick overview of the quarter. Next, he will provide insight into Q3 revenue results, with some details on what we are seeing with respect to our end markets.
Mike Beckman: First, Haviv will start with a quick overview of the quarter. Next, he will provide insight into Q3 revenue results with some details on what we are seeing with respect to our end markets. Lastly, Julie will cover the financial results and give an update on contrast management, as well as share the guidance for Q4 2026. With that, let me turn it over to Haviv.
Mike Beckman: First, Haviv will start with a quick overview of the quarter. Next, he will provide insight into Q3 revenue results with some details on what we are seeing with respect to our end markets. Lastly, Julie will cover the financial results and give an update on contrast management, as well as share the guidance for Q4 2026. With that, let me turn it over to Haviv.
Speaker #1: And lastly, Julie will cover the financial results and give an update on capital management, as well as share the guidance for Q4 2026. With that, let me turn it over to Haviv.
Haviv Ilan: Thanks, Mike. Let me start with a quick overview of the Q3. Revenue was $6.1 billion, an increase of 11% sequentially and an increase of 28% year-over-year. Analog and embedded processing both grew sequentially and year-on-year. Analog revenue grew 32% year-on-year, and embedded processing grew 21%. Our other segment declined 6% from the year ago quarter. During the quarter, we saw broad demand with revenue growth across all end markets and regions. Secular growth of semiconductor content is continuing alongside a strong cyclical recovery. We are working closely with our customers to support them during this time of increased demand. We are executing to our long-term manufacturing plan, and our investments have positioned us to ramp our factories to support revenue growth. Now I will share some additional insights into Q3 revenue by end market.
Haviv Ilan: Thanks, Mike. Let me start with a quick overview of the Q3. Revenue was $6.1 billion, an increase of 11% sequentially and an increase of 28% year-over-year. Analog and embedded processing both grew sequentially and year-on-year. Analog revenue grew 32% year-on-year, and embedded processing grew 21%. Our other segment declined 6% from the year ago quarter. During the quarter, we saw broad demand with revenue growth across all end markets and regions. Secular growth of semiconductor content is continuing alongside a strong cyclical recovery. We are working closely with our customers to support them during this time of increased demand. We are executing to our long-term manufacturing plan, and our investments have positioned us to ramp our factories to support revenue growth. Now I will share some additional insights into Q3 revenue by end market.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Mike. Let me start with a quick overview of Q3. Revenue was $6.1 billion, an increase of 11% sequentially and 28% year over year.
Speaker #2: Analog and Embedded Processing both grew sequentially and year on year. Analog revenue grew 32% year on year, and Embedded Processing grew 21%. Our other segment declined 6% from the year-ago quarter.
Speaker #2: During the quarter, we saw broad demand, with revenue growth across all end markets and regions. Secular growth of semiconductor content is continuing, alongside a strong cyclical recovery.
Speaker #2: We are working closely with our customers to support them during this time of increased demand. We are executing our long-term manufacturing plan, and our investments have positioned us to ramp up our factories to support revenue growth.
Speaker #2: Now I'll share some additional insights into Q3 revenue by end market. First, industrial increased more than 40% year-on-year and was up about 10% sequentially.
Haviv Ilan: First, industrial increased more than 40% year-on-year and was up about 10% sequentially. Automotive increased mid-teens year-on-year and increased about 10% sequentially. Data center was up about 95% year-on-year and grew about 20% sequentially. Personal electronics was about flat year-on-year and grew upper single digits sequentially. Lastly, communications equipment grew both year-on-year and sequentially. With that, let me turn it over to Julie to review profitability and contrast management.
Haviv Ilan: First, industrial increased more than 40% year-on-year and was up about 10% sequentially. Automotive increased mid-teens year-on-year and increased about 10% sequentially. Data center was up about 95% year-on-year and grew about 20% sequentially. Personal electronics was about flat year-on-year and grew upper single digits sequentially. Lastly, communications equipment grew both year-on-year and sequentially. With that, let me turn it over to Julie to review profitability and contrast management.
Speaker #2: Automotive increased by mid-teens year on year and increased about 10% sequentially. Data Center was up about 95% year on year and grew about 20% sequentially.
Speaker #2: Personal electronics was about flat year-on-year and grew upper single digits sequentially. And lastly, communications equipment grew both year-on-year and sequentially.
Speaker #2: With that, let me turn it over to Julie to review profitability and capital management.
Julie Knecht: Thanks, Haviv, and good afternoon, everyone. As Haviv mentioned, Q3 revenue was $6.1 billion. Gross profit in the quarter was $3.9 billion, or 64% of revenue. Sequentially, gross profit margin increased 280 basis points. Operating expenses in the quarter were $1 billion. On a trailing 12-month basis, operating expenses were $4 billion, or 19% of revenue. Operating profit was $2.9 billion in the quarter, or 47% of revenue, and it was up 73% from the year ago quarter. Net income in the quarter was $2.4 billion, or $2.62 per share. Earnings per share included a $0.01 reduction, not in our original guidance, due to discrete tax items. Let me now comment on our cash management results, starting with our cash generation. Cash flow from operations was $3.4 billion in the quarter and $9.9 billion on a trailing 12-month basis.
Julie Knecht: Thanks, Haviv, and good afternoon, everyone. As Haviv mentioned, Q3 revenue was $6.1 billion. Gross profit in the quarter was $3.9 billion, or 64% of revenue. Sequentially, gross profit margin increased 280 basis points. Operating expenses in the quarter were $1 billion. On a trailing 12-month basis, operating expenses were $4 billion, or 19% of revenue. Operating profit was $2.9 billion in the quarter, or 47% of revenue, and it was up 73% from the year ago quarter. Net income in the quarter was $2.4 billion, or $2.62 per share. Earnings per share included a $0.01 reduction, not in our original guidance, due to discrete tax items. Let me now comment on our cash management results, starting with our cash generation. Cash flow from operations was $3.4 billion in the quarter and $9.9 billion on a trailing 12-month basis.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Haviv, and good afternoon, everyone. As Haviv mentioned, Q3 revenue was $6.1 billion. Gross profit in the quarter was $3.9 billion, or 64% of revenue.
Speaker #3: Sequentially, gross profit margin increased 280 basis points. Operating expenses in the quarter were $1 billion. On a trailing 12-month basis, operating expenses were $4 billion.
Speaker #3: Or 19% of revenue. Operating profit was $2.9 billion in the quarter, or 47% of revenue. It was up 73% from the year-ago quarter.
Speaker #3: Net income in the quarter was $2.4 billion, or $2.62 per share. Earnings per share included a $0.01 reduction, not in our original guidance, due to discrete tax items.
Speaker #3: Let me now comment on our capital management results, starting with our cash generation. Cash flow from operations was $3.4 billion in the quarter, and $9.9 billion on a trailing 12-month basis.
Julie Knecht: Capital expenditures were $463 million in the quarter, and $2.6 billion over the last 12 months. Free cash flow on a trailing 12-month basis was $8.4 billion, up from $2.4 billion in Q3 2025. Free cash flow in the trailing 12 months includes $1.6 billion of CHIPS Act incentives, which includes both the investment tax credit and direct funding. In the quarter, we paid $1.3 billion in dividends. In September, we announced we would increase our dividend by 7% to $1.52 per share, marking our 23rd consecutive year of dividend increases. This reflects our continued commitment to return all free cash flow to owners over time. In total, we returned $5.8 billion to our owners in the past 12 months. Our balance sheet remains strong, with $8.1 billion of cash and short-term investments at the end of Q3.
Julie Knecht: Capital expenditures were $463 million in the quarter, and $2.6 billion over the last 12 months. Free cash flow on a trailing 12-month basis was $8.4 billion, up from $2.4 billion in Q3 2025. Free cash flow in the trailing 12 months includes $1.6 billion of CHIPS Act incentives, which includes both the investment tax credit and direct funding. In the quarter, we paid $1.3 billion in dividends. In September, we announced we would increase our dividend by 7% to $1.52 per share, marking our 23rd consecutive year of dividend increases. This reflects our continued commitment to return all free cash flow to owners over time. In total, we returned $5.8 billion to our owners in the past 12 months. Our balance sheet remains strong, with $8.1 billion of cash and short-term investments at the end of Q3.
Speaker #3: Capital expenditures were $463 million in the quarter, and $2.6 billion over the last 12 months. Free cash flow on a trailing 12-month basis was $8.4 billion.
Speaker #3: Up from $2.4 billion in Q3 2025. Free cash flow in the trailing 12 months includes $1.6 billion of CHIPS Act incentives, which includes both the investment tax credit and direct funding.
Speaker #3: In the quarter, we paid $1.3 billion in dividends. In September, we announced that we would increase our dividend by 7% to $1.52 per share, marking our 23rd consecutive year of dividend increases.
Speaker #3: This reflects our continued commitment to return all free cash flow to owners over time. In total, we returned $5.8 billion to our owners in the past 12 months.
Speaker #3: Our balance sheet remains strong, with $8.1 billion of cash and short-term investments at the end of Q3. In the quarter, we repaid $500 million of debt.
Julie Knecht: In the quarter, we repaid $500 million of debt. Total debt outstanding is $13.65 billion, with a weighted average coupon of 4.11%. Inventory at the end of the quarter was $4.7 billion, up $67 million from the prior quarter, and days were 194, down 2 days sequentially. Turning to our outlook for Q4, we expect TI's revenue in the range of $5.8 billion to $6.3 billion, and earnings per share to be in the range of $2.45 to $2.79. We expect our effective tax rate to be about 13% in Q4, and for 2027, we expect it to be about 13% to 14%. In closing, we will stay focused in the areas that add value in the long term. We continue to invest in our competitive advantages, which are manufacturing and technology, a broad product portfolio, reach of our channels, and diverse and long-lived positions.
Julie Knecht: In the quarter, we repaid $500 million of debt. Total debt outstanding is $13.65 billion, with a weighted average coupon of 4.11%. Inventory at the end of the quarter was $4.7 billion, up $67 million from the prior quarter, and days were 194, down 2 days sequentially. Turning to our outlook for Q4, we expect TI's revenue in the range of $5.8 billion to $6.3 billion, and earnings per share to be in the range of $2.45 to $2.79. We expect our effective tax rate to be about 13% in Q4, and for 2027, we expect it to be about 13% to 14%. In closing, we will stay focused in the areas that add value in the long term. We continue to invest in our competitive advantages, which are manufacturing and technology, a broad product portfolio, reach of our channels, and diverse and long-lived positions.
Speaker #3: Total debt outstanding is $13.65 billion, with a weighted average coupon of 4.11%. Inventory at the end of the quarter was $4.7 billion, up $67 million from the prior quarter.
Speaker #3: And days were 194, down two days sequentially. Turning to our outlook for Q4, we expect TI's revenue in the range of $5.8 billion to $6.3 billion.
Speaker #3: And earnings per share to be in the range of $2.45 to $2.79. We expect our effective tax rate to be about 13% in Q4.
Speaker #3: And for 2027, we expect it to be about 13 to 14%. In closing, we will stay focused on the areas that add value in the long term.
Speaker #3: We continue to invest in our competitive advantages, which are manufacturing the technology, a broad product portfolio, the reach of our channels, and diverse, long-lived positions.
Julie Knecht: We will continue to strengthen these advantages through disciplined capital allocation and by focusing on the best opportunities, which we believe will enable us to continue to deliver free cash flow per share growth over the long term. With that, let me turn it back to Mike.
Julie Knecht: We will continue to strengthen these advantages through disciplined capital allocation and by focusing on the best opportunities, which we believe will enable us to continue to deliver free cash flow per share growth over the long term. With that, let me turn it back to Mike.
Speaker #3: We will continue to strengthen these advantages through disciplined capital allocation and by focusing on the best opportunities, which we believe will enable us to continue to deliver free cash flow per share growth over the long term.
Speaker #3: With that, let me turn it back to Mike.
Mike Beckman: Thanks, Julie. Operator, you can now open the line for questions. In order to provide as many of you as possible an opportunity to ask your questions, please limit yourself to a single question. After our response, we will provide you with an opportunity for an additional follow-up. Operator?
Mike Beckman: Thanks, Julie. Operator, you can now open the line for questions. In order to provide as many of you as possible an opportunity to ask your questions, please limit yourself to a single question. After our response, we will provide you with an opportunity for an additional follow-up. Operator?
Speaker #2: Thanks, Julie. Operator, you can now open the line for questions. In order to provide as many of you as possible an opportunity to ask your questions, please limit yourself to a single question.
Speaker #2: After our response, we'll provide you with an opportunity for an additional follow-up. Operator?
Operator: Thank you. Again, we will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two to remove yourself from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up the handset before pressing the star keys. Again, we ask all those in the queue to limit themselves to one question and one follow-up question to allow everyone a chance to ask. Our first question comes from the line of Joe Moore with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Thank you. Again, we will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two to remove yourself from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up the handset before pressing the star keys. Again, we ask all those in the queue to limit themselves to one question and one follow-up question to allow everyone a chance to ask. Our first question comes from the line of Joe Moore with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.
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Speaker #4: Again, we ask all of those in the queue to limit themselves to one question and one follow-up question, to allow everyone a chance to ask.
Speaker #4: And our first question comes from the line of Joe Moore with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.
Joe Moore: Yes. Hi, thank you. I was a little surprised at the gross margins, kind of incremental gross margins of about 90% on incremental revenue. I know the long-term target is lower than that. Can you just give us a sense for, you know, what went right there and how sustainable that may be? Thank you.
Joe Moore: Yes. Hi, thank you. I was a little surprised at the gross margins, kind of incremental gross margins of about 90% on incremental revenue. I know the long-term target is lower than that. Can you just give us a sense for, you know, what went right there and how sustainable that may be? Thank you.
Speaker #5: Yes, hi, thank you. I was a little surprised that the incremental gross margins were about 90% on incremental revenue. I know the long-term target is lower than that.
Speaker #5: Can you just give us a sense for what went right there, and how sustainable that may be? Thank you.
Julie Knecht: Yeah, sure. Thanks, Joe. Yes, our margin in Q3 were really driven by higher revenue. That is the largest reason for that increase. But we also did have some benefit from pricing, loadings, and some product and end market mix.
Julie Knecht: Yeah, sure. Thanks, Joe. Yes, our margin in Q3 were really driven by higher revenue. That is the largest reason for that increase. But we also did have some benefit from pricing, loadings, and some product and end market mix.
Speaker #3: You're sure, thanks, Joe. Yes, our margin in Q3 was really driven by higher revenue. That's the largest reason for that increase. But we also did have some benefit from pricing loadings and some product and end-market mix.
Mike Beckman: You have a follow-up, Joe?
Mike Beckman: You have a follow-up, Joe?
Speaker #2: You have a follow-up, Joe?
Joe Moore: No, I am good. That looks like about comparable gross margins embedded in the guidance. Is that kind of the right way to think of it?
Joe Moore: No, I am good. That looks like about comparable gross margins embedded in the guidance. Is that kind of the right way to think of it?
Speaker #5: No, I'm good. So, that looks like comparable gross margins embedded in the guidance. Is that kind of the right way to think of it?
Julie Knecht: I think over the long term, the way to model continues to be looking at 75% to 85%, ex depreciation fall through. It is easier to look at that more of our longer time horizon, so year-over-year. But of course, there are puts and takes in this. For modeling, I would also share that OpEx for Q4, we are expecting to be flat to slightly up. Acquisition charges should look about similar to what we saw in Q3. Same with net OIE.
Julie Knecht: I think over the long term, the way to model continues to be looking at 75% to 85%, ex depreciation fall through. It is easier to look at that more of our longer time horizon, so year-over-year. But of course, there are puts and takes in this. For modeling, I would also share that OpEx for Q4, we are expecting to be flat to slightly up. Acquisition charges should look about similar to what we saw in Q3. Same with net OIE.
Speaker #3: I think, over the long term, the way to model continues to be looking at 75% to 85% ex-depreciation fall-through. It's better; it's easier to look at that over more of our longer time horizon.
Speaker #3: So, year over year. But of course, there are puts and takes in this. For modeling, I would also share that OpEx for Q4, we're expecting to be flat to slightly up.
Speaker #3: Acquisition charges should look about similar to what we saw in Q3, same with net OINE.
Mike Beckman: Thanks, Joe. Moving on to our next caller, please.
Mike Beckman: Thanks, Joe. Moving on to our next caller, please.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Joe. Moving on to our next caller, please.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Harlan Sur with JP Morgan. Please proceed.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Harlan Sur with JP Morgan. Please proceed.
Speaker #4: Our next question comes from the line of Harlan Sear with JPMorgan. Please proceed.
Harlan Sur: Yeah, good afternoon. Thank you for taking my question, and great job on the quarterly execution. Both short lead time orders and longer-term duration orders have been positive for the TI team over the past few quarters. Lead times, I assume, are probably expanding a bit, so you are getting a bit more orders placed further out in time as well. Did the TI team drive another quarter of positive book-to-bill in Q3? Was the order activity pretty broad-based?
Harlan Sur: Yeah, good afternoon. Thank you for taking my question, and great job on the quarterly execution. Both short lead time orders and longer-term duration orders have been positive for the TI team over the past few quarters. Lead times, I assume, are probably expanding a bit, so you are getting a bit more orders placed further out in time as well. Did the TI team drive another quarter of positive book-to-bill in Q3? Was the order activity pretty broad-based?
Speaker #5: Yeah, good afternoon. Thank you for taking my question, and great job on the quarterly execution. Both short lead-time orders and longer-term duration orders have been positive for the TI team over the past few quarters.
Speaker #5: Lead times, I assume, are probably expanding a bit, so you're getting a bit more orders placed for the out-in-time as well. Did the TI team drive another quarter of positive book-to-bill in Q3, and was the order activity pretty broad-based?
Haviv Ilan: Hey, Harlan. This is Haviv. Let me say a few words, and I will let Mike offer some more comments. Look, we are seeing, as I said, the broadening of the demand coming across the three main markets that we focus on for the long term, industrial, automotive, and data center. But in general, demand was growing across the board, across markets, sectors, and regions. That does put pressure on lead times, but I think they may be ticked a little bit higher. I will let Mike comment. But I still believe that TI is best positioned to support that growing demand. I think we are still the most competitive supplier in terms of lead time. Mike, I do not know if you can
Haviv Ilan: Hey, Harlan. This is Haviv. Let me say a few words, and I will let Mike offer some more comments. Look, we are seeing, as I said, the broadening of the demand coming across the three main markets that we focus on for the long term, industrial, automotive, and data center. But in general, demand was growing across the board, across markets, sectors, and regions. That does put pressure on lead times, but I think they may be ticked a little bit higher. I will let Mike comment. But I still believe that TI is best positioned to support that growing demand. I think we are still the most competitive supplier in terms of lead time. Mike, I do not know if you can
Speaker #2: Hey, Leigh Harlan, this is Haviv. Let me say a few words, and then let Mike offer some more comments. So, look, we are seeing, as I said, the broadening of the demand coming across the three main markets that we focus on for the long term: industrial, automotive, and data center.
Speaker #2: But in general, the demand was growing across the board—across markets, sectors, and regions. That does put pressure on lead times, but I think they maybe ticked a little bit higher.
Speaker #2: I'll let Mike comment, but I still believe that TI is best positioned to support that growing demand. I think we are still the most competitive supplier in terms of lead time.
Mike Beckman: Yeah
Mike Beckman: Yeah
Speaker #2: Mike, if you can offer anything else here.
Haviv Ilan: offer anything else here.
Haviv Ilan: offer anything else here.
Mike Beckman: I think you characterized it right, and I also add the investments that we have made in inventory and capacity do position us to support growing demand. We will continue to ramp our factories to support revenue growth moving forward. You have a follow-up?
Mike Beckman: I think you characterized it right, and I also add the investments that we have made in inventory and capacity do position us to support growing demand. We will continue to ramp our factories to support revenue growth moving forward. You have a follow-up?
Speaker #1: I think he characterized it right, and I'd just also add that the investments we've made in inventory and capacity do position us to support growing demand.
Speaker #1: And we'll continue to ramp our factories to support revenue growth moving forward. Do you have a follow-up?
Harlan Sur: Yeah, I appreciate the answer. Last quarter, Haviv, you talked about the potential for broader positive pricing initiatives as you hold your annual pricing negotiations for next year. That would overlay not just on your analog and power products, but also on your embedded products as well. Can you give us an update here? Industry supply dynamics feel like they are getting worse, not better. TI is in a great position to support customers' supply requirements, and I think they do value the team's supply capability, and I assume they are willing to pay a premium for the assurance and predictability you offer. I wanted to get an update from you there on annual pricing negotiations.
Harlan Sur: Yeah, I appreciate the answer. Last quarter, Haviv, you talked about the potential for broader positive pricing initiatives as you hold your annual pricing negotiations for next year. That would overlay not just on your analog and power products, but also on your embedded products as well. Can you give us an update here? Industry supply dynamics feel like they are getting worse, not better. TI is in a great position to support customers' supply requirements, and I think they do value the team's supply capability, and I assume they are willing to pay a premium for the assurance and predictability you offer. I wanted to get an update from you there on annual pricing negotiations.
Speaker #5: Yeah, no, I appreciate the answer. Last quarter, Haviv, you talked about the potential for broader positive pricing initiatives as you hold your annual pricing negotiations for next year.
Speaker #5: That would overlay not just on your Analog and Power products, but also on your Embedded products as well. Can you give us an update here?
Speaker #5: I mean, industry supply dynamics feel like they're getting worse, not better. TI is in a great position to support customers' supply requirements, and I think they do value the team's supply capability.
Speaker #5: And I assume they're willing to pay a premium for the assurance and predictability you offer. But I wanted to get an update from you on annual pricing negotiations.
Haviv Ilan: Yeah. First, a high level picture, Harlan, as you mentioned, there is a stronger demand environment right now. If you look at the area of foundational chips, as I call it, but specifically analog, there has not been a lot of addition into capacity in the last four years since the previous peak of the market during the COVID days. So especially if you do care about geopolitically dependable capacity, meaning usually factories outside of China and Taiwan. In this case, TI has a good position. We are seeing our customers value our investment and also capacity to continue to grow them not only in the next quarters, but also in the foreseeable future. So that is a good characterization of the situation we are in.
Haviv Ilan: Yeah. First, a high level picture, Harlan, as you mentioned, there is a stronger demand environment right now. If you look at the area of foundational chips, as I call it, but specifically analog, there has not been a lot of addition into capacity in the last four years since the previous peak of the market during the COVID days. So especially if you do care about geopolitically dependable capacity, meaning usually factories outside of China and Taiwan. In this case, TI has a good position. We are seeing our customers value our investment and also capacity to continue to grow them not only in the next quarters, but also in the foreseeable future. So that is a good characterization of the situation we are in.
Speaker #2: Yeah, first, high-level picture. Harlan, as you mentioned, there is a stronger demand environment right now. And if you look at the area of foundational chips, as I call it—but specifically analog—there hasn't been a lot of addition in capacity in the last four years since the previous peak of the market during the COVID days.
Speaker #2: So, especially if you do care about geopolitically dependable capacity—meaning, usually, factories outside of China and Taiwan—in this case, TI has a good position.
Speaker #2: We are seeing our customers value our investment and also our capacity to continue to grow with them, not only in the next quarters but also in the foreseeable future.
Speaker #2: So that's a good characterization of the situation we are in. Regarding pricing specifically, look, most of our pricing discussions are done once a year with our customers, but we did see some areas in the middle of the year where we had the opportunity to talk to customers that wanted more supply, more urgently.
Haviv Ilan: Regarding pricing specifically, look, most of our pricing discussions are done once a year with our customers, but we did see some areas in the middle of the year where we had the opportunity to talk to customers that wanted more supply more urgently. In this case, and Julie indicated in her answer, we did see some price movement, I would say mainly on the analog side in the H2. I would just characterize it the H2 of 2026. After a flat pricing environment year-over-year in the H1 of 2026. So we are seeing a little bit of an uptick, not very significant for this year. For 2027, yes, we are now engaged in the discussions you just mentioned.
Haviv Ilan: Regarding pricing specifically, look, most of our pricing discussions are done once a year with our customers, but we did see some areas in the middle of the year where we had the opportunity to talk to customers that wanted more supply more urgently. In this case, and Julie indicated in her answer, we did see some price movement, I would say mainly on the analog side in the H2. I would just characterize it the H2 of 2026. After a flat pricing environment year-over-year in the H1 of 2026. So we are seeing a little bit of an uptick, not very significant for this year. For 2027, yes, we are now engaged in the discussions you just mentioned.
Speaker #2: And in this case, as Julie indicated in her answer, we did see some price movement—I would say mainly on the analog side—in the second half.
Speaker #2: I would just characterize it as the second half of 2026, after a flat pricing environment year-over-year in the first half of 2026. So, we are seeing a little bit of an uptick—not very significant—for this year.
Speaker #2: For 2027, yes, we are now engaged in the discussions. You just mentioned we are looking at customers' demand and what type of supply they want to guarantee, if you will, or to get supported from TI.
Haviv Ilan: We are looking at the customer's demand and what type of supply they want to guarantee, if you will, or to get supported from TI, and that has a pricing element to it. I think we will report more of it when we provide our results, mainly our guidance, during the January call.
Haviv Ilan: We are looking at the customer's demand and what type of supply they want to guarantee, if you will, or to get supported from TI, and that has a pricing element to it. I think we will report more of it when we provide our results, mainly our guidance, during the January call.
Speaker #2: And that has a pricing element to it. So I think we will report more of it when we provide our results, mainly our guidance during the January call.
Mike Beckman: All right. Thank you, Harlan. We will move on to our next caller, please.
Mike Beckman: All right. Thank you, Harlan. We will move on to our next caller, please.
Speaker #1: All right. Thank you, Harlan. We'll move on to our next caller, please.
Operator: Our next question comes from Stacy Rasgon with Bernstein Research. You may proceed with your question.
Operator: Our next question comes from Stacy Rasgon with Bernstein Research. You may proceed with your question.
Speaker #4: Our next question comes from Stacey Rasgon with Bernstein Research. You may proceed with your question.
Stacy Rasgon: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to ask about the end market outlook that is embedded in guidance. Usually Q4 just seasonally is down, I do not know, mid-single to high single, maybe even more sometimes. I get it, calculators and personal electronics, typically. You are guiding flattish, which is well above, it would be one of your stronger Q4s in quite a while, probably since the COVID cycle. What is embedded there that puts and takes on end markets given those typical seasonal patterns? What are you seeing across the markets now that is driving things stronger?
Stacy Rasgon: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to ask about the end market outlook that is embedded in guidance. Usually Q4 just seasonally is down, I do not know, mid-single to high single, maybe even more sometimes. I get it, calculators and personal electronics, typically. You are guiding flattish, which is well above, it would be one of your stronger Q4s in quite a while, probably since the COVID cycle. What is embedded there that puts and takes on end markets given those typical seasonal patterns? What are you seeing across the markets now that is driving things stronger?
Speaker #5: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to ask about the end-market outlook that's embedded in guidance. Usually, Q4 seasonally is down, I don't know, mid-single to high-single digits, maybe even more sometimes.
Speaker #5: And I get, it's calculators and personal electronics typically. You're guiding flattish, which is well above—I'd be one of your stronger Q4s in quite a while, probably since the COVID cycle.
Speaker #5: What is embedded there that puts and takes on end markets given those sort of typical seasonal patterns? And what are you seeing across the markets now that's driving things stronger?
Haviv Ilan: Yeah, Stacy, I will take a stab at it. I am not going to guide by market. As you know, we do not. But I will just give a little bit of color. The data center market, it is a market that we feel is strong secular growth. I do not think it is influenced by seasonality. The demand continues to be strong and growing. It is just a bigger part of our business now. I think it was about 13% of revenue in Q3 or so. I think just you see that coming in and just helping, if you will, the transition from Q3 to Q4. But on top of it, I am very excited about what we are seeing on the industrial market. We are seeing a very strong momentum in industrial across the sectors, but specifically in areas like aerospace and defense, energy infrastructure, test and measurement, the robotics sector.
Haviv Ilan: Yeah, Stacy, I will take a stab at it. I am not going to guide by market. As you know, we do not. But I will just give a little bit of color. The data center market, it is a market that we feel is strong secular growth. I do not think it is influenced by seasonality. The demand continues to be strong and growing. It is just a bigger part of our business now.
Speaker #2: Yeah, Stacey, I'll take a stab at it. I'm not going to guide by market—as you know, we don't—but I will just give a little bit of color.
Speaker #2: The data center market is a market where we see strong secular growth. I don't think it's influenced by seasonality. The demand continues to be strong and growing.
Speaker #2: And it's just a bigger part of our business now. I think it was about 13% of revenue in Q3 or so. So I think you just see that coming in.
Haviv Ilan: I think it was about 13% of revenue in Q3 or so. I think just you see that coming in and just helping, if you will, the transition from Q3 to Q4. But on top of it, I am very excited about what we are seeing on the industrial market. We are seeing a very strong momentum in industrial across the sectors, but specifically in areas like aerospace and defense, energy infrastructure, test and measurement, the robotics sector.
Speaker #2: And just helping, if you will, with the transition from Q3 to Q4. But on top of that, I'm very excited about what we're seeing in the industrial market.
Speaker #2: We are seeing very strong momentum in industrial across the sectors, but specifically in areas like aerospace and defense, energy infrastructure, test and measurement, and robotics sectors.
Haviv Ilan: This is where we see a combination of secular growth, but also sequential or cyclical recovery, I would say. This is why we are seeing an above-seasonal forecast from TI. We also saw the automotive customers waking up, if you will, with higher demand in Q3, and I think that may continue into Q4. Again, the top 3 markets, industrial, automotive, and data center, are the ones that are driving our guide into Q4.
Speaker #2: So this is where we see a combination of secular growth, but also sequential or cyclical recovery, I would say. So this is why we're seeing an above-seasonal forecast from TI.
Haviv Ilan: This is where we see a combination of secular growth, but also sequential or cyclical recovery, I would say. This is why we are seeing an above-seasonal forecast from TI. We also saw the automotive customers waking up, if you will, with higher demand in Q3, and I think that may continue into Q4. Again, the top 3 markets, industrial, automotive, and data center, are the ones that are driving our guide into Q4.
Speaker #2: We also saw the automotive customers waking up, if you will, with higher demand in Q3. And I think that may continue into Q4. So again, the top three markets—industrial, automotive, and data center—are the ones that are driving our guide into Q4.
Mike Beckman: Do you have a follow-up, Stacy?
Mike Beckman: Do you have a follow-up, Stacy?
Speaker #1: You have a follow-up, Stacey?
Stacy Rasgon: I do, thanks. I wanted to ask about CapEx. You have been talking about you will be near the higher end of the $2 billion to $3 billion range for the year, and are you still going to be tracking there in the 1 quarter that we have left? I guess, in addition to that, you talked about continuing to invest in manufacturing to support demand. How do we think about CapEx in 2027 relative to 2026, given that statement?
Stacy Rasgon: I do, thanks. I wanted to ask about CapEx. You have been talking about you will be near the higher end of the $2 billion to $3 billion range for the year, and are you still going to be tracking there in the 1 quarter that we have left? I guess, in addition to that, you talked about continuing to invest in manufacturing to support demand. How do we think about CapEx in 2027 relative to 2026, given that statement?
Speaker #5: I do, thanks. I wanted to ask about CapEx. So you've been talking about being near the higher end of the $2 to $3 billion range for the year.
Speaker #5: And are you still going to be tracking there in the one quarter that we have left? And, I guess, in addition to that, you talked about continuing to invest in manufacturing to support demand.
Speaker #5: So, how should we think about CAPEX in 2027 relative to 2026, given that statement?
Haviv Ilan: Yeah, let me start with 2026. Right now, Stacy, of course we will give some more color during our February call for contrast management about what we are seeing. But high level, you are right, we are aiming to continue to invest right now in 2026, somewhere between $2 billion and $3 billion. Yes, we want to aim higher, but also we are seeing lead times extending on tools and everything, especially on the back end side. So that is very tactical situation, but we do want to expand capacity. As you know, we have plenty of clean rooms, we are seeing strong demand leaving this quarter, we grew in the high 20s. So you do want to make sure you continue to fill that clean room with tools, both on the back end, but also later on the front end side. We are leaning in.
Haviv Ilan: Yeah, let me start with 2026. Right now, Stacy, of course we will give some more color during our February call for contrast management about what we are seeing. But high level, you are right, we are aiming to continue to invest right now in 2026, somewhere between $2 billion and $3 billion. Yes, we want to aim higher, but also we are seeing lead times extending on tools and everything, especially on the back end side. So that is very tactical situation, but we do want to expand capacity. As you know, we have plenty of clean rooms, we are seeing strong demand leaving this quarter, we grew in the high 20s. So you do want to make sure you continue to fill that clean room with tools, both on the back end, but also later on the front end side. We are leaning in.
Speaker #2: Yeah, let me start with 2026. Right now, Stacey, and of course, we'll give some more color during our February call for capital management about what we're seeing.
Speaker #2: But high level, you're right. We are aiming to continue to invest right now in 2026, somewhere between $2 and $3 billion. And yes, we want to aim higher, but we are also seeing lead times extending on tools and everything, especially on the back-end side.
Speaker #2: So that is a very tactical situation. But we do want to expand capacity. As you know, we have plenty of clean room, and we are seeing strong demand.
Speaker #2: Leaving this quarter, we grew in the high 20s. So you do want to make sure you continue to fill that cleanroom with tools, both on the back-end, but also later on the front-end side.
Speaker #2: So, we are leaning in. And again, now when you talk about CAPEX, it's when tools are coming in, delivered by our suppliers, and that's what influences, more or less, the result.
Haviv Ilan: Now when you talk about CapEx, it is when tools are coming in, delivered by our suppliers, that is what influences more or less the result. But you should expect somewhere between $2 billion to $3 billion this year, maybe on the higher end if we get that execution as planned. Regarding 2027, I will not say anything right now about the numbers, but I do think it is a function of demand and what our aspiration of growth is, Stacy. I think we have given a framework at the time of what CapEx will do as a function of the expected longer-term revenue growth. Of course, you are investing ahead of demand, right? So there is a certain CapEx level to support a 10% growth versus a higher CapEx plan to support mid-teens growth, for example. This is where we want to provide some more color in our February call.
Haviv Ilan: Now when you talk about CapEx, it is when tools are coming in, delivered by our suppliers, that is what influences more or less the result. But you should expect somewhere between $2 billion to $3 billion this year, maybe on the higher end if we get that execution as planned. Regarding 2027, I will not say anything right now about the numbers, but I do think it is a function of demand and what our aspiration of growth is, Stacy.
Speaker #2: But it should expect somewhere between $2 billion to $3 billion this year, and maybe on the higher end if we get that execution as planned.
Speaker #2: Now, regarding 2027, I won't say anything right now about the numbers, but I do think it's a function of demand and what our aspiration of growth is, Stacey.
Haviv Ilan: I think we have given a framework at the time of what CapEx will do as a function of the expected longer-term revenue growth. Of course, you are investing ahead of demand, right? So there is a certain CapEx level to support a 10% growth versus a higher CapEx plan to support mid-teens growth, for example. This is where we want to provide some more color in our February call.
Speaker #2: I think we've given a framework at a time, of what CapEx will do as a function of the expected longer-term revenue growth. Of course, we are investing ahead of demand, right?
Speaker #2: So, there is a certain CAPEX level to support 10% growth, versus a higher CAPEX plan to support mid-teens growth, for example. And this is where we want to provide some more color in our February call.
Haviv Ilan: I will say that we are in a position to control our destiny. We have taken care of the long lead time investments on clean rooms, including all the sub-fab and all the, to be fair, the equipment that takes right now a very long time to get and build and get qualified. I am very excited about that. We do have the slot reserved for 2027 and beyond, we are going to modulate the incoming rate based on the revenue growth we would like to support. Okay?
Haviv Ilan: I will say that we are in a position to control our destiny. We have taken care of the long lead time investments on clean rooms, including all the sub-fab and all the, to be fair, the equipment that takes right now a very long time to get and build and get qualified. I am very excited about that. We do have the slot reserved for 2027 and beyond, we are going to modulate the incoming rate based on the revenue growth we would like to support. Okay?
Speaker #2: I will say that we have the we are in a position to control our destiny. We have taken care of the long lead time investments on clean rooms, including all the sub-fab and all the, to be fair, the equipment that takes right now a very long time to get and build and get qualified.
Speaker #2: So I'm very excited about that. We do have the slot reserved for 2027 and beyond, and we are going to modulate the incoming rate based on the revenue growth we would like to support.
Speaker #2: Okay?
Mike Beckman: All right. Thank you for the question, Stacy. Moving on to our next caller, please.
Mike Beckman: All right. Thank you for the question, Stacy. Moving on to our next caller, please.
Speaker #1: All right. Thank you for the question, Stacey. Moving on to our next caller, please.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Chris Caso with Wolfe Research. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Chris Caso with Wolfe Research. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #4: Our next question comes from the line of Chris Caso with Wolf Research. Please proceed with your question.
Chris Caso: Yes, thanks. Good evening. First question was to dig in a little more on the industrial market. That market has been in recovery for some time now. You are seeing it up 40% year-on-year in the quarter. I guess the question is, what is your level of conviction that when this recovers, how much of that recovery do you think has been driven by cyclical factors as opposed to secular factors such as the growth in some of those individual segments?
Chris Caso: Yes, thanks. Good evening. First question was to dig in a little more on the industrial market. That market has been in recovery for some time now. You are seeing it up 40% year-on-year in the quarter. I guess the question is, what is your level of conviction that when this recovers, how much of that recovery do you think has been driven by cyclical factors as opposed to secular factors such as the growth in some of those individual segments?
Speaker #5: Yes, thanks. Good evening. My first question is to dig in a little more on the industrial market. That market has been in recovery for some time now.
Speaker #5: You're seeing an up 40% year-on-year, and a quarter. I guess the question is, what's your level of conviction that when this recovers, how much of that recovery do you think has been driven by cyclical factors as opposed to secular factors, such as the growth in some of those individual segments?
Haviv Ilan: Yeah. Let me start, and then Mike, maybe you can offer some more color on the sectors inside the industrial. High level, the excitement I have about industrial, it is growing very fast, but only now in Q3 2026, it reached the same level of revenue we had in Q3 2022. This is the first time we created a new peak in industrial after four years. I do believe that systems that are being designed by our customers four years later than the COVID peak are much more rich with content. We are seeing end equipment by end equipment, sector by sector, that there is just more content per system as customers want to achieve higher precision, higher speed, higher quality, more throughput, whatever they want to drive. That is there.
Haviv Ilan: Yeah. Let me start, and then Mike, maybe you can offer some more color on the sectors inside the industrial. High level, the excitement I have about industrial, it is growing very fast, but only now in Q3 2026, it reached the same level of revenue we had in Q3 2022. This is the first time we created a new peak in industrial after four years. I do believe that systems that are being designed by our customers four years later than the COVID peak are much more rich with content. We are seeing end equipment by end equipment, sector by sector, that there is just more content per system as customers want to achieve higher precision, higher speed, higher quality, more throughput, whatever they want to drive. That is there.
Speaker #2: Yeah, so let me start. And Mike, maybe you can offer some more color on the sectors inside industrial. But, at a high level, the excitement I have about industrial is it's growing very fast, but only now in Q3 2026 has it reached the same level of revenue we had in Q3 2022.
Speaker #2: So, this is the first time we've created a new peak in industrial after four years. I do believe that systems being designed by our customers, four years after the COVID peak, are much richer with content.
Speaker #2: We are seeing, end equipment by end equipment, sector by sector, that there is just more content per system. As customers want to achieve higher precision, higher speed, higher quality, more throughput—whatever they want to drive, right?
Speaker #2: So, that is there. I also believe our portfolio has done very well in terms of we've built more and more parts in the last several years and invested in R&D.
Haviv Ilan: I also believe our portfolio has done very well in terms of we have built more and more parts in the last several years, invested in R&D, and I think we won a lot of share per system based on our portfolio. So I am excited about that as well. Now, there was also some secular areas of growth like aerospace and defense, and also data center and adjacent sectors. I will let Mike comment there about the different sectors. Some of them, by the way, have not reached their previous peak yet. We are in early innings.
Haviv Ilan: I also believe our portfolio has done very well in terms of we have built more and more parts in the last several years, invested in R&D, and I think we won a lot of share per system based on our portfolio. So I am excited about that as well. Now, there was also some secular areas of growth like aerospace and defense, and also data center and adjacent sectors. I will let Mike comment there about the different sectors. Some of them, by the way, have not reached their previous peak yet. We are in early innings.
Speaker #2: And I think we want a larger share per system based on our portfolio, so I'm excited about that as well. Now, there are also some secular areas of growth, like aerospace and defense, and also data center-induced sectors.
Speaker #2: I'll let Mike comment there about the different sectors. Some of them, by the way, have not reached their previous peak yet, so we are in the early innings.
Mike Beckman: Right. Some of the sectors, as you probably know, that have had industry level unit demand, like aerospace and defense, or the ones that are more closely adjacent to data center, like energy infrastructure or test and measurement, make all new highs over time. But even areas like industrial automation that are going through recovery have also had, as Haviv Vilan described, four years of content increase, gen to gen secular content growth. As we look at the industrial end market, we see opportunity ahead there. As Haviv mentioned, it has just now reached a little bit above its previous peak, but again, that is four years of content expansion. So we look forward to serving that market well in the quarters ahead. Do you have a follow-up?
Mike Beckman: Right. Some of the sectors, as you probably know, that have had industry level unit demand, like aerospace and defense, or the ones that are more closely adjacent to data center, like energy infrastructure or test and measurement, make all new highs over time. But even areas like industrial automation that are going through recovery have also had, as Haviv Vilan described, four years of content increase, gen to gen secular content growth. As we look at the industrial end market, we see opportunity ahead there. As Haviv mentioned, it has just now reached a little bit above its previous peak, but again, that is four years of content expansion. So we look forward to serving that market well in the quarters ahead. Do you have a follow-up?
Speaker #1: Right. So some of the sectors, as you probably know, that have had industry-level unit demand—like aerospace and defense—are the ones that are more closely adjacent to data center, like energy infrastructure or test and measurement, making all new highs over time.
Speaker #1: But even areas like industrial automation that are going through recovery have also had, as you described, four years of content increase, gen-to-gen secular content growth.
Speaker #1: So, as we look at the industrial end market, we see opportunity ahead there. And as you mentioned, it's just now reached a little bit above its previous peak.
Speaker #1: But again, that's four years of content expansion. So we look forward to serving that market well in the quarters ahead. Do you have a follow-up?
Chris Caso: Well, I do. Thanks. The follow-up question is on embedded, and now that, I guess the second Lehi shell will be ready by the end of the year, maybe you talk about how you intend to deploy that as you go into next year. As you said, it does seem like industry capacity is getting tighter. What benefit does that bring to you? What are your plans for next year, and does that have any margin impact?
Chris Caso: Well, I do. Thanks. The follow-up question is on embedded, and now that, I guess the second Lehi shell will be ready by the end of the year, maybe you talk about how you intend to deploy that as you go into next year. As you said, it does seem like industry capacity is getting tighter. What benefit does that bring to you? What are your plans for next year, and does that have any margin impact?
Speaker #5: Well, I do. Thanks. The follow-up question is on embedded. And now that, I guess, the second Lehigh Shell will be ready by the end of the year, maybe you could talk about how you intend to deploy that as you go into next year.
Speaker #5: And as you said, it does seem like industry capacity is getting tighter. What benefit does that bring to you? What are your plans for next year?
Speaker #5: And does that have any margin impact?
Haviv Ilan: Yes. On the embedded side, I am, we are seeing that our investment in Lehi, LFAB1 and LFAB2, is extremely beneficial. On LFAB1, as you remember, we have transferred a lot of our foundry-based business into LFAB1, but we still have plenty of clean room in LFAB1. So we are going to grow into that. That will carry us in the coming quarters. But we do have LFAB2, as you mentioned there, to continue to grow embedded at the rate which demand will indicate. So we are right now looking at the numbers. I think that the embedded business in general, I think this is not only a TI comment, but in terms of the cyclical recovery, I would call it maybe a year later than analog.
Haviv Ilan: Yes. On the embedded side, I am, we are seeing that our investment in Lehi, LFAB1 and LFAB2, is extremely beneficial. On LFAB1, as you remember, we have transferred a lot of our foundry-based business into LFAB1, but we still have plenty of clean room in LFAB1. So we are going to grow into that. That will carry us in the coming quarters. But we do have LFAB2, as you mentioned there, to continue to grow embedded at the rate which demand will indicate. So we are right now looking at the numbers. I think that the embedded business in general, I think this is not only a TI comment, but in terms of the cyclical recovery, I would call it maybe a year later than analog.
Speaker #2: Yes. So, on the embedded side, we are seeing that our investment in Lehigh One and Lehigh Two is extremely beneficial. On Lehigh One, as you remember, we have transferred a lot of our foundry-based business into Lehigh One, but we still have plenty of clean room in Lehigh One.
Speaker #2: So we are going to grow into that. That will carry us, at least in the coming quarters. But we do have Lehigh Two, as you mentioned, there to continue to grow embedded at the rate which demand will indicate.
Speaker #2: So, we are right now looking at the numbers. I think that the embedded business, in general—I think this is not only a TI comment—but in terms of the cyclical recovery, I would call it maybe a year later than analog.
Haviv Ilan: We saw that the embedded business peaked in 2023, while analog for TI, while analog peaked in 2022. I also believe that the supply demand mismatch is higher in analog because some of the analog supply to be fair, went offline in the last few years and more is coming out, and some of the foundries are transitioning their supply base to support non-analog portfolio parts. With that stance, I think the pressure is now higher, and this is why you are seeing higher growth on analog. Having said that, embedded is well-positioned. Our portfolio is growing. We have a clean room in LFAB1. We have the shell in LFAB2 that is the last stages of completion, so we can modulate now tool installations according to what demand says. Last but not least, I want to mention our plan with the Silicon Labs acquisition.
Haviv Ilan: We saw that the embedded business peaked in 2023, while analog for TI, while analog peaked in 2022. I also believe that the supply demand mismatch is higher in analog because some of the analog supply to be fair, went offline in the last few years and more is coming out, and some of the foundries are transitioning their supply base to support non-analog portfolio parts. With that stance, I think the pressure is now higher, and this is why you are seeing higher growth on analog. Having said that, embedded is well-positioned. Our portfolio is growing. We have a clean room in LFAB1. We have the shell in LFAB2 that is the last stages of completion, so we can modulate now tool installations according to what demand says. Last but not least, I want to mention our plan with the Silicon Labs acquisition.
Speaker #2: We saw that the embedded business peaked in 2023, while analog for TI peaked in 2022. I also believe that the supply-demand mismatch is higher in analog because some of the analog supply, to be fair, went offline in the last few years, and more is coming out as some of the foundries are transitioning their supply base to support non-analog portfolio parts.
Speaker #2: So with that stance, I think the pressure is now higher. And this is why you're seeing higher growth on analog. Having said that, embedded is well positioned.
Speaker #2: Our portfolio is growing. We have a clean room in Alpha One. We have the shell in Alpha Two that is in the last stages of completion.
Speaker #2: So we can modulate tool installations now according to what demand says. Last but not least, I want to mention our plan with the Silicon Labs acquisition.
Haviv Ilan: That is another clean room that will serve the transitioning of the portfolio that right now is running in foundries, again, into Lehi. From a gross margin perspective, we are seeing strong progress. I think we have seen it in the last several quarters. Julie, right? Is it a couple of points per quarter that we are seeing lately?
Haviv Ilan: That is another clean room that will serve the transitioning of the portfolio that right now is running in foundries, again, into Lehi. From a gross margin perspective, we are seeing strong progress. I think we have seen it in the last several quarters. Julie, right? Is it a couple of points per quarter that we are seeing lately?
Speaker #2: That's another clean room that will serve the transitioning of the portfolio that right now is running in foundries into, again, into Lehigh. From a gross margin perspective, we are seeing strong progress.
Speaker #2: I think we've seen it in the last several quarters, Julie, right? Is it a couple of points per quarter that we are seeing lately?
Julie Knecht: Yes.
Julie Knecht: Yes.
Haviv Ilan: Yes. I think about 10 points year-over-year or something. I do see that the embedded has room to grow in the sense of not only top-line growth, but also gross margins as well.
Haviv Ilan: Yes. I think about 10 points year-over-year or something. I do see that the embedded has room to grow in the sense of not only top-line growth, but also gross margins as well.
Speaker #2: Yes, and I think about $10.0 million a year or something. So I do see that Embedded has room to grow in the sense of not only top-line growth, but also gross margins as well.
Mike Beckman: All right. Moving on to our next caller, please.
Mike Beckman: All right. Moving on to our next caller, please.
Speaker #1: All right, moving on to our next caller, please.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Joe Quatrochi with Wells Fargo & Company. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Joe Quatrochi with Wells Fargo & Company. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #3: Our next question comes from the line of Joel Quattroci with Wells Fargo & Company. Please proceed with your question.
Joe Quatrochi: Yeah, thanks for taking the question. I wanted to ask about the auto demand commentary you provided, talking about you are seeing customers kind of wake up a little bit. Can you give a little bit more color? Is that broad-based demand that you are seeing, and are you seeing customers add more inventory, and is that across analog and embedded, or more concentrated?
Joe Quatrochi: Yeah, thanks for taking the question. I wanted to ask about the auto demand commentary you provided, talking about you are seeing customers kind of wake up a little bit. Can you give a little bit more color? Is that broad-based demand that you are seeing, and are you seeing customers add more inventory, and is that across analog and embedded, or more concentrated?
Speaker #4: Yeah, thanks for taking the questions. I wanted to ask about the auto demand commentary you provided, talking about how you're seeing customers kind of wake up a little bit.
Speaker #4: Can you give a little bit more color? Is the demand you're seeing broad-based, and are you seeing customers add more inventory?
Speaker #4: And is that across analog and embedded, or more concentrated?
Haviv Ilan: Yeah. I will start, but automotive, I think I will describe the demand we are seeing in automotive as such that demand is coming in pretty strong in Q3. We did see a nice sequential growth. We are seeing mid-teens year-over-year growth, but I think customers have not kept a lot of inventory on their side. So when they saw maybe demand growing, maybe a little bit of more EV, as fuel prices went up, they were not well-positioned compared to customers we have seen in other markets. So we are now supporting these customers as they are trying to ramp their production. I do not see any inventory build-up. On the contrary, I wish they had a little bit more. But we are positioned to grow. Of course, the fabs, you cannot flip a switch to get the output, the right mix immediately.
Haviv Ilan: Yeah. I will start, but automotive, I think I will describe the demand we are seeing in automotive as such that demand is coming in pretty strong in Q3. We did see a nice sequential growth. We are seeing mid-teens year-over-year growth, but I think customers have not kept a lot of inventory on their side. So when they saw maybe demand growing, maybe a little bit of more EV, as fuel prices went up, they were not well-positioned compared to customers we have seen in other markets. So we are now supporting these customers as they are trying to ramp their production. I do not see any inventory build-up. On the contrary, I wish they had a little bit more. But we are positioned to grow. Of course, the fabs, you cannot flip a switch to get the output, the right mix immediately.
Speaker #1: Yeah.
Speaker #2: Yeah, I will start. For automotive, I think I will describe the demand we are seeing as such that demand is coming in pretty strong in Q3, with nice sequential growth.
Speaker #2: We are seeing meetings year-over-year growth. But I think customers have not kept a lot of inventory on their side. So when they saw demand growing, maybe a little bit more easily as fuel prices went up, they were not well positioned compared to customers we've seen in other markets.
Speaker #2: So, we are now supporting these customers as they're trying to ramp their production. I don't see any inventory buildup. On the contrary, I wish they had a little bit more.
Speaker #2: But we are positioned to grow. Of course, the fabs are—you cannot flip a switch to get the output at the right mix immediately.
Haviv Ilan: This is where we help some customers with the existing inventory we have built ahead. But some of the parts are more unique, and we need to react to customer demand. So that is what I am seeing right now. In terms of region, can you add a little bit, Mike?
Haviv Ilan: This is where we help some customers with the existing inventory we have built ahead. But some of the parts are more unique, and we need to react to customer demand. So that is what I am seeing right now. In terms of region, can you add a little bit, Mike?
Speaker #2: And this is where we helped some customers with the existing inventory. We've built ahead, but some of the parts are more unique, and we need to react to customer demand.
Speaker #2: So that's what I'm seeing right now in terms of region. Can you add a little bit, Mike?
Mike Beckman: Yeah. So, similar to last quarter, you may recall that we saw China and the US averaging out the overall growth. We continue to see that in the third quarter as well. The comment around EV mix, you can see it clearly in our sectors as well. So the hybrid electric and powertrain systems sector grew about twice as fast as the overall did. So that just gives you a sense of the mix that has shifted toward EV inside of that. With that, do you have a follow-up?
Mike Beckman: Yeah. So, similar to last quarter, you may recall that we saw China and the US averaging out the overall growth. We continue to see that in the third quarter as well. The comment around EV mix, you can see it clearly in our sectors as well. So the hybrid electric and powertrain systems sector grew about twice as fast as the overall did. So that just gives you a sense of the mix that has shifted toward EV inside of that. With that, do you have a follow-up?
Speaker #1: Yeah, yeah. So, similar to last quarter, you may recall that we saw China and the US averaging up the overall growth. We continue to see that in the third quarter as well.
Speaker #1: And the comment around EV mix—you can see it clearly in our sectors as well. The hybrid electric and powertrain systems sector grew about twice as fast as the overall did.
Speaker #1: So that just gives you a sense of the mix that has shifted toward EV inside of that. So, with that, you have a follow-up.
Joe Quatrochi: Yeah, thanks. As I think about it, as we talked about back-end tools, lead times kind of starting to extend and things, and capacity obviously tight, does that change any of your plans and how you are thinking about just moving more of your capacity on the back-end side to internal? Are you trying to flex some of your external capacity a bit more, just given the pretty significant increase in demand you are seeing?
Joe Quatrochi: Yeah, thanks. As I think about it, as we talked about back-end tools, lead times kind of starting to extend and things, and capacity obviously tight, does that change any of your plans and how you are thinking about just moving more of your capacity on the back-end side to internal? Are you trying to flex some of your external capacity a bit more, just given the pretty significant increase in demand you are seeing?
Speaker #4: Yeah, thanks. And then, just as I think about it, you talked about backend tools, lead times kind of starting to extend, and things. Capacity, obviously, is tight.
Speaker #4: Does that change any of your plans in how you're thinking about just moving more of your capacity on the backend side to internal? Are you trying to flex some of your external capacity a bit more, given the pretty significant increase in demand you're seeing?
Haviv Ilan: Yeah. I think I commented before earlier this year, we have done it a lot throughout the year. So we are not getting as much as we wanted from our OSAT partners, and I think it is also just tightness of supply, as you mentioned. So we do have a new site in Malaysia that we are ramping very quickly. It is our largest A/T site, newly built. I am very glad we have it. The parts are being qualified and ramped, so we can continue and increase capacity every quarter thanks to the clean room we have. The rate of which we grow is a function of how quickly we add tools, and that is also a function of the demand, I would say. But in general, I am very pleased with our situation, both front-end and back-end, because we control our destiny here.
Haviv Ilan: Yeah. I think I commented before earlier this year, we have done it a lot throughout the year. So we are not getting as much as we wanted from our OSAT partners, and I think it is also just tightness of supply, as you mentioned. So we do have a new site in Malaysia that we are ramping very quickly. It is our largest A/T site, newly built. I am very glad we have it. The parts are being qualified and ramped, so we can continue and increase capacity every quarter thanks to the clean room we have. The rate of which we grow is a function of how quickly we add tools, and that is also a function of the demand, I would say. But in general, I am very pleased with our situation, both front-end and back-end, because we control our destiny here.
Speaker #2: Yeah, I think I commented before, earlier this year. We've done it a lot throughout the year. So, we are not getting as much as we wanted from our OSAT partners, and I think it's also just the tightness of supplies you mentioned.
Speaker #2: So we do have a new site in Malaysia that we are ramping very quickly. It's our largest AT site, newly built, and I'm very glad we have it.
Speaker #2: The parts are being qualified and ramped, so we can continue and increase capacity every quarter, thanks to the clean room we have. The rate at which we grow is a function of how quickly we add tools.
Speaker #2: And that's also a function of the demand, I would say. But in general, I'm very pleased with our situation, both frontend and backend, because we control our destiny here.
Haviv Ilan: We have done the work during the down cycle, again, when lead times were very short on this type of equipment, to get ahead and to be ready for a range of scenarios. This scenario right now is a very strong demand scenario.
Haviv Ilan: We have done the work during the down cycle, again, when lead times were very short on this type of equipment, to get ahead and to be ready for a range of scenarios. This scenario right now is a very strong demand scenario.
Speaker #2: And we have done the work during the down cycle. Again, when lead times were very short on this type of equipment, to get ahead and to be ready for a range of scenarios.
Speaker #2: This scenario right now is a very strong demand scenario.
Mike Beckman: All right. Thanks, Joe. Moving on to our next caller, please.
Mike Beckman: All right. Thanks, Joe. Moving on to our next caller, please.
Speaker #1: All right. Thanks, Joel. Moving on to our next caller, please.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tore Svanberg with Stifel. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tore Svanberg with Stifel. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #3: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tori Svamberg with Stifel. Please proceed with your question.
Tore Svanberg: Yes, thank you, and congratulations on the results. Just zooming in a little bit on data center. I think it almost doubled year over year. I think in the past you've talked about your exposure to data center still kind of being more building block components, but I do know you have some newer products that are starting to get designed in. So how should we think about that in the context of the almost double year over year growth rate?
Tore Svanberg: Yes, thank you, and congratulations on the results. Just zooming in a little bit on data center. I think it almost doubled year over year. I think in the past you've talked about your exposure to data center still kind of being more building block components, but I do know you have some newer products that are starting to get designed in. So how should we think about that in the context of the almost double year over year growth rate?
Speaker #5: Yes, thank you, and congratulations on the results. Just zooming in a little bit on data center—I think it almost doubled year over year.
Speaker #5: I think in the past, you've talked about your exposure to data centers still kind of being more building block components. But I do know you have some newer products that are starting to get designed in.
Speaker #5: So, how should we think about that in the context of the almost double year-over-year growth rate?
Haviv Ilan: Yeah, look, I'm very excited about the market in the sense of you guys know exactly what's going on there. But what I would like to share is that we see a very high breadth of opportunity, and we are continuing to invest. Customers want new solutions to get more. These are very expensive assets if you think about the compute rack or networking rack, and it needs a lot of telemetry and cooling, and efficiency is critical. Power density is critical. So we are seeing customers being very innovative on how they add power that are mainly coming from our portfolio of foundational chips, of analog and embedded chips, to do all of that. So just a growing opportunity in terms of diversity of part numbers.
Haviv Ilan: Yeah, look, I'm very excited about the market in the sense of you guys know exactly what's going on there. But what I would like to share is that we see a very high breadth of opportunity, and we are continuing to invest. Customers want new solutions to get more. These are very expensive assets if you think about the compute rack or networking rack, and it needs a lot of telemetry and cooling, and efficiency is critical. Power density is critical. So we are seeing customers being very innovative on how they add power that are mainly coming from our portfolio of foundational chips, of analog and embedded chips, to do all of that. So just a growing opportunity in terms of diversity of part numbers.
Speaker #2: Yeah, look, I'm very excited about the market in the sense that you guys know exactly what's going on there. But what I would like to share is that we see a very high breadth of opportunity, and we are continuing to invest.
Speaker #2: I mean, customers want new solutions. To get more, I mean, these are very expensive assets if you think about the compute rack or networking rack.
Speaker #2: And it needs a lot of telemetry and cooling, and efficiency is critical. Power density is critical. So, we are seeing customers being very, very innovative in how they add parts that are mainly coming from our portfolio of foundational chips—analog and embedded chips.
Speaker #2: To do all of that. So, just a growing opportunity in terms of diversity of part numbers. We reviewed it earlier this week, and we have about 10,000 different GPNs, or generic part numbers, that we are selling into this market.
Haviv Ilan: We reviewed it earlier this week, and we have about 10,000 different GPNs or generic part numbers that we are selling into this market, and it's growing every quarter. So that's a very exciting opportunity. Our focus is, again, we are a company that is trying to. Breadth of our portfolio is one of our competitive advantages. But, of course, we also pay attention to the more application-specific sockets. We have developed the technology for that. I think I've mentioned it. It's now early ramps in Sherman. I think the execution is going well. So I'm excited about continuing to expand our portfolio in data center, assuming the investments in data center continues in the US. And by the way, it's not only in the US, we are seeing it worldwide, but the US is leading.
Haviv Ilan: We reviewed it earlier this week, and we have about 10,000 different GPNs or generic part numbers that we are selling into this market, and it's growing every quarter. So that's a very exciting opportunity. Our focus is, again, we are a company that is trying to. Breadth of our portfolio is one of our competitive advantages. But, of course, we also pay attention to the more application-specific sockets. We have developed the technology for that. I think I've mentioned it. It's now early ramps in Sherman. I think the execution is going well. So I'm excited about continuing to expand our portfolio in data center, assuming the investments in data center continues in the US. And by the way, it's not only in the US, we are seeing it worldwide, but the US is leading.
Speaker #2: And it's growing every quarter, so that's a very exciting opportunity. Now, our focus is, again, we are a company whose breadth of portfolio is one of our competitive advantages.
Speaker #2: But of course, we also pay attention to the more application-specific sockets. We have developed the technology for that. I think I've mentioned it; it's now early ramp in Sherman.
Speaker #2: I think the execution is going well, so I'm excited about continuing to expand our portfolio in data center, assuming the investments in data center continue in the U.S.
Speaker #2: And by the way, it's not only in the U.S.—we are seeing it worldwide. But the U.S. is leading.
Mike Beckman: A follow-up, Tory?
Mike Beckman: A follow-up, Tory?
Speaker #1: Your follow-up, Tori?
Tore Svanberg: Yes. Thank you, Mike. In industrial, which is a little more than a third of your revenue, I know you talked about the cyclical growth and the secular growth, but I am also curious, if you look at all the sub-segments there, how much of that, let us say 35% of revenue, is potentially being impacted by the data center build-out as well?
Tore Svanberg: Yes. Thank you, Mike. In industrial, which is a little more than a third of your revenue, I know you talked about the cyclical growth and the secular growth, but I am also curious, if you look at all the sub-segments there, how much of that, let us say 35% of revenue, is potentially being impacted by the data center build-out as well?
Speaker #5: Yes. Thank you, Mike. So, in industrial, which is a little more than 30% of your revenue, I know you talked about the cyclical growth and the cyclical growth.
Speaker #5: Let me just ask, also out of curiosity: if you look at all the sub-segments there, how much of that—let's say 35% of revenue—is potentially being impacted by the data center build-out as well?
Haviv Ilan: I think we have about 9 or 10 sectors over there in industrial. The last one is kind of what we call other, all other end equipment. But of the 9, I think 2 are very much data center specific, energy infrastructure, and also test and measurement. But I think I see a lot of robustness there. People are building memories and GPUs for the foreseeable future. They need to test them. This has been a very fast-growing sector for us, and we are doing well over there. Then the energy infrastructure, I think that the world is rebuilding its grid, and the content is very rich with semiconductors. That has been a very good sector growth for us. I think data center influences it, but the world needs more energy, I think, in general.
Haviv Ilan: I think we have about 9 or 10 sectors over there in industrial. The last one is kind of what we call other, all other end equipment. But of the 9, I think 2 are very much data center specific, energy infrastructure, and also test and measurement. But I think I see a lot of robustness there. People are building memories and GPUs for the foreseeable future. They need to test them. This has been a very fast-growing sector for us, and we are doing well over there. Then the energy infrastructure, I think that the world is rebuilding its grid, and the content is very rich with semiconductors. That has been a very good sector growth for us. I think data center influences it, but the world needs more energy, I think, in general.
Speaker #2: So I think we have about nine or ten sectors over there in industrial. The last one is kind of what we call "other," all other end equipments.
Speaker #2: But of the nine, I think two are very much data center specific: energy infrastructure and also test and measurement. But I think I see a lot of robustness there.
Speaker #2: I mean, people are building memories and GPUs for the foreseeable future. They need to test them. That has been a very fast-growing sector for us.
Speaker #2: And we are doing well over there. And then the energy infrastructure, I think the world is rebuilding its grid. And it's a very the content is very rich with semiconductors.
Speaker #2: So that has been a very good sector growth for us. I think data center influences it, but the world needs more energy. I think, in general, if you think about automation and later on physical AI and robotics and aerospace and defense, everything needs more energy.
Haviv Ilan: If you think about automation and later on physical AI and robotics and aerospace and defense, everything needs more energy, and I think that is going to continue. I am very excited about the progress over there. Now, we are seeing, as Mike mentioned before, we just see other secular trends that are not. I do not think. They may be related to data center because they help accelerate them. But what is going on in the aerospace and defense with autonomous end equipment, if you will, that are very content-rich in the type of parts we make. Very early on the robotics side, but I think 2027 is going to be a great deal of ramps. Content over there is actually, for example, per humanoid, is very high. I would say somewhere between $500 to $1,000 per content for TI, one on this type of system.
Haviv Ilan: If you think about automation and later on physical AI and robotics and aerospace and defense, everything needs more energy, and I think that is going to continue. I am very excited about the progress over there. Now, we are seeing, as Mike mentioned before, we just see other secular trends that are not. I do not think. They may be related to data center because they help accelerate them. But what is going on in the aerospace and defense with autonomous end equipment, if you will, that are very content-rich in the type of parts we make. Very early on the robotics side, but I think 2027 is going to be a great deal of ramps. Content over there is actually, for example, per humanoid, is very high. I would say somewhere between $500 to $1,000 per content for TI, one on this type of system.
Speaker #2: And I think that's going to continue. So I'm very excited about the progress over there. Now, we are seeing as Mike mentioned before, we just see other secular trends that are not I don't think they're maybe related to data center because they help accelerate them.
Speaker #2: But what's going on in aerospace and defense with autonomous end equipment, if you will, that are very content-rich in the type of parts we make?
Speaker #2: Very early on the robotics side, but I think 2027 is going to be a great year of ramps. Our content over there is actually per for example, per humanoid is very high.
Speaker #2: I would say somewhere between 500 to $1,000 per content for TI. One on this type of system. So I don't know how many they'll build the next year, but definitely the demand is they want to grow.
Haviv Ilan: I do not know how many they will build there next year, but definitely the demand is they want to grow. All of that is providing a lot of tailwind on our industrial business, which I am excited about because it also helps you. There was a question before on margins. This is our best market in terms of diversity, longevity, but also in terms of margins. So a very lucrative market.
Haviv Ilan: I do not know how many they will build there next year, but definitely the demand is they want to grow. All of that is providing a lot of tailwind on our industrial business, which I am excited about because it also helps you. There was a question before on margins. This is our best market in terms of diversity, longevity, but also in terms of margins. So a very lucrative market.
Speaker #2: So all of that is providing a lot of tailwind on our industrial business, which I'm excited about because it also helps you. There was a question before on margins.
Speaker #2: This is our best market in terms of diversity and longevity, but also in terms of margins—so a very lucrative market.
Mike Beckman: Thanks for the question, Tory. Moving on to our next caller, please.
Mike Beckman: Thanks for the question, Tory. Moving on to our next caller, please.
Speaker #1: Thanks for the questions, Tori. Moving on to our next caller, please.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of William Stein with Truist Securities. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of William Stein with Truist Securities. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #3: Our next question comes from the line of William Stein with Truist Securities. Please proceed with your question.
William Stein: Great. Thanks for taking my question. I am hoping you can comment on customer inventory levels and their ability to complete kits. We have heard some feedback from industry contacts that this is becoming a challenge the way it was a few years ago in the so-called golden screw era. I wonder to what degree you are seeing this, and what is your ability to perhaps help customers deal with those challenges?
William Stein: Great. Thanks for taking my question. I am hoping you can comment on customer inventory levels and their ability to complete kits. We have heard some feedback from industry contacts that this is becoming a challenge the way it was a few years ago in the so-called golden screw era. I wonder to what degree you are seeing this, and what is your ability to perhaps help customers deal with those challenges?
Speaker #5: Great, thanks for taking my question. I'm hoping you can comment on customer inventory levels and their ability to complete kits. We've heard some feedback from industry contacts that this is becoming a challenge, similar to what we saw a few years ago during the so-called "golden screw" era.
Speaker #5: I wonder to what degree you're seeing this, and what is your ability to perhaps help customers deal with those challenges?
Haviv Ilan: Yes. First, we all hear. I lived through the previous upcycle during the COVID days. I would not compare the situations. I think also we are earlier right now in terms of where the cycle is.
Haviv Ilan: Yes. First, we all hear. I lived through the previous upcycle during the COVID days. I would not compare the situations. I think also we are earlier right now in terms of where the cycle is.
Speaker #2: Yes. First, we all here lived through the previous upcycle during the COVID days. I would not compare the situations. I think also we are early right now in terms of the cycle, so we'll have to wait and see.
Haviv Ilan: We will have to go to see. But again, from a TI perspective, we are much better prepared in terms of we can grow our capacity every quarter, and we have built inventory during the down cycle. Now, as you have a very rapid, fast growth in some of the customers or markets, and especially with customers have not prepared, they did not have enough inventory on their side, you can run into situations like that. I think I gave an example before in the automotive market, that is the one place I would say that I see it right now, versus in contrast, in the COVID cycle, we did see a much broader situation across almost every customer over every end market. I would not compare them yet. I will say that, yes, we have come for help many times.
Haviv Ilan: We will have to go to see. But again, from a TI perspective, we are much better prepared in terms of we can grow our capacity every quarter, and we have built inventory during the down cycle. Now, as you have a very rapid, fast growth in some of the customers or markets, and especially with customers have not prepared, they did not have enough inventory on their side, you can run into situations like that. I think I gave an example before in the automotive market, that is the one place I would say that I see it right now, versus in contrast, in the COVID cycle, we did see a much broader situation across almost every customer over every end market. I would not compare them yet. I will say that, yes, we have come for help many times.
Speaker #2: But again, from a TI perspective, we are much better prepared. In terms of our ability to grow capacity every quarter, we've built inventory during the down cycle.
Speaker #2: Now, as you have a very rapid fast growth in some of the customers or markets and especially where customers have not prepared and did not have enough inventory on their side, you can run into situations like that.
Speaker #2: I think I gave an example before on the automotive market. That's the one place I would say that I see it right now, versus in capital. In the COVID cycle, we did see a much broader situation across almost every customer, over every end market.
Speaker #2: So I would not compare them yet. I will say that yes, we have come for help many times. We have been the solution many times right now in other markets.
Haviv Ilan: We have been the solution many times right now in other markets. Some of our industrial customers, some of our data center customers have asked for help. Many times we had the inventory and could also commit capacity or growth into 2027 and beyond. We are seeing early anecdotal feedback that we can help our customers, but we need to see how the situation develops. I will say, as I said before, in terms of capacity addition, outside of China, mainly on the analog side, we do not see a lot of clean room and a lot of new capacity added in the last four years. As I mentioned, the cycle time to build from moving dirt to getting output from a fab, it is about four years, not to mention about full ramp of a fab.
Haviv Ilan: We have been the solution many times right now in other markets. Some of our industrial customers, some of our data center customers have asked for help. Many times we had the inventory and could also commit capacity or growth into 2027 and beyond. We are seeing early anecdotal feedback that we can help our customers, but we need to see how the situation develops. I will say, as I said before, in terms of capacity addition, outside of China, mainly on the analog side, we do not see a lot of clean room and a lot of new capacity added in the last four years. As I mentioned, the cycle time to build from moving dirt to getting output from a fab, it is about four years, not to mention about full ramp of a fab.
Speaker #2: Some of our industrial customers and some of our data center customers have asked for help. Many times, we had the inventory and could also commit capacity or growth into 2027 and beyond.
Speaker #2: So we are seeing early anecdotal feedback that we can help our customers. But we need to see how the situation develops. I will say, as I said before, in terms of capacity addition, outside of China, mainly on the analog side, it's not we don't see a lot of clean room and a lot of new capacity added in the last four years.
Speaker #2: And as I mentioned, the cycle time to build—from moving dirt to getting output from a fab—is about four years, not to mention the time required for a full ramp of a fab.
Haviv Ilan: I think TI is in an advantage position here versus the rest of the market.
Haviv Ilan: I think TI is in an advantage position here versus the rest of the market.
Speaker #2: So, I think TI is in an advantageous position here versus the rest of the market.
Mike Beckman: I do think that customers, in the context of the question on kitting and making sure they have all the products they need, they will come to us and say, "I need to make sure I have what I need from your portion to meet as I get what I need in maybe another area where they're having a challenge getting it." This is all part of what we're seeing in our markets overall. I think we are in a good position to be able to help work with our customers, to help them as they grow. Will, do you have a follow-up?
Mike Beckman: I do think that customers, in the context of the question on kitting and making sure they have all the products they need, they will come to us and say, "I need to make sure I have what I need from your portion to meet as I get what I need in maybe another area where they're having a challenge getting it." This is all part of what we're seeing in our markets overall. I think we are in a good position to be able to help work with our customers, to help them as they grow. Will, do you have a follow-up?
Speaker #1: I do think that customers in the context of the question on kitting and making sure they have all the products they need, they will come to us and say, "I need to make sure I have what I need from your portion to meet as I get what I need in maybe in another area where they're having a challenge getting it." So this is all part of what we're seeing in our markets overall.
Speaker #1: But I think we are in a good position to be able to help work with our customers to help them as they grow. So Will, do you have a follow-up?
William Stein: Yeah. Appreciate that helpful answer. The next one, you might have discussed already, but can you talk about where lead times might have changed in the last quarter and what your customers' willingness and ability to place backlog with you has been? Has the backlog duration extended materially in the last quarter? Thank you.
William Stein: Yeah. Appreciate that helpful answer. The next one, you might have discussed already, but can you talk about where lead times might have changed in the last quarter and what your customers' willingness and ability to place backlog with you has been? Has the backlog duration extended materially in the last quarter? Thank you.
Speaker #5: Yeah. Appreciate the helpful answer and the next one. You might have discussed it already, but can you talk about where lead times might have changed in the last quarter and what your customers' willingness and ability to place backlog with you has been?
Speaker #5: Has the backlog duration extended materially in the last quarter? Thank you.
Mike Beckman: I'd characterize the backlog as consistent with the overall demand environment that we're seeing, and we have seen an uptick in lead times. There are areas where you'll see just as you would expect in an environment like this, where there may be more or less tightness in certain areas. But in terms of where we are from a lead time perspective, we're competitive right now. Again, we're in a position where we can make investments into the cleanroom and the assembly and test facilities that we have to be able to support growth for our customers, and we'll continue to ramp those as we move into this quarter and beyond. With that, we'll move on to our next caller.
Mike Beckman: I'd characterize the backlog as consistent with the overall demand environment that we're seeing, and we have seen an uptick in lead times. There are areas where you'll see just as you would expect in an environment like this, where there may be more or less tightness in certain areas. But in terms of where we are from a lead time perspective, we're competitive right now. Again, we're in a position where we can make investments into the cleanroom and the assembly and test facilities that we have to be able to support growth for our customers, and we'll continue to ramp those as we move into this quarter and beyond. With that, we'll move on to our next caller.
Speaker #2: So, I'd characterize the backlog as consistent with the overall demand environment that we're seeing. And, we have seen an uptick in lead times. There are areas where you'll see, just as you would expect in an environment like this, where there may be more or less tightness in certain areas.
Speaker #2: But in terms of where we are from a lead time perspective, we're competitive right now. And again, we're in a position where we can make investments into the clean room and the assembly and test facilities that we have to be able to support growth for our customers.
Speaker #2: And we'll continue to ramp those as we move into the this quarter and beyond. With that, we'll move on to our next caller.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Nabil Aziz with Rothschild & Co. You may proceed.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Nabil Aziz with Rothschild & Co. You may proceed.
Speaker #3: Our next question comes from the line of Nabil Aziz with Rothschild and Company. You may proceed.
Nabil Aziz: Hey, thanks for taking the question. I just had a question on supply-demand tightness through the quarter and what you are seeing, in terms of socket wins and your engagements with customers there, and whether you have started to see incremental market share gains through the quarter. Thank you.
Nabil Aziz: Hey, thanks for taking the question. I just had a question on supply-demand tightness through the quarter and what you are seeing, in terms of socket wins and your engagements with customers there, and whether you have started to see incremental market share gains through the quarter. Thank you.
Speaker #6: Hey, thanks for taking the question. I just had a question on supply-demand tightness through the quarter and what you're seeing in terms of socket wins and your engagements with customers there, and whether you've started to see incremental market share gains through the quarter.
Speaker #6: Thank you.
Haviv Ilan: Yeah, Nabil, I think when it goes to market share, we do not like to measure it. Of course, we look at the results internally, but I think we should look at it through the cycle. As again, if we are indeed better positioned than some of the competition to support the demand, and if demand continues, we should be able to translate it to market share gains, but that we cannot measure it yet. So I think we have to wait through the cycle and see when the next peak is. It will arrive one day, and then see where we are. But I am pleased with the momentum we are building. I am pleased with the ability to continue to ramp our supply, and let us see how we do over the long term.
Haviv Ilan: Yeah, Nabil, I think when it goes to market share, we do not like to measure it. Of course, we look at the results internally, but I think we should look at it through the cycle. As again, if we are indeed better positioned than some of the competition to support the demand, and if demand continues, we should be able to translate it to market share gains, but that we cannot measure it yet. So I think we have to wait through the cycle and see when the next peak is. It will arrive one day, and then see where we are. But I am pleased with the momentum we are building. I am pleased with the ability to continue to ramp our supply, and let us see how we do over the long term.
Speaker #2: Yeah, Will. I think when it comes to market share, we don't like to measure it, of course. We look at the results internally. But I think we should look at it through the cycle. Again, if we are indeed better positioned than some of the competition to support demand, and if demand continues, we should be able to translate that into market share gains.
Speaker #2: But we cannot measure it yet, so I think we have to wait through the cycle and see when the next peak is. It will arrive one day, and then we'll see where we are.
Speaker #2: But I'm pleased with the momentum we are building. I'm pleased with the ability to continue to ramp our supply. And let's see how we do over the long term.
Mike Beckman: You have a follow-up, Nabil?
Mike Beckman: You have a follow-up, Nabil?
Speaker #1: Yeah. Follow up, Nabil.
Nabil Aziz: Yeah. Just to follow up on the back-end tool comments. Could you just confirm, is there a potential that back-end tool availability could at all bottleneck your growth, and whether that is a gating factor for you over the next couple of quarters? Thanks.
Nabil Aziz: Yeah. Just to follow up on the back-end tool comments. Could you just confirm, is there a potential that back-end tool availability could at all bottleneck your growth, and whether that is a gating factor for you over the next couple of quarters? Thanks.
Speaker #5: Yeah, just to follow up on the backend tool comments, could you confirm—is there a potential that backend tool availability could bottleneck your growth at all, and whether that is a gating factor for you?
Speaker #5: Over the next couple of quarters. Thanks.
Haviv Ilan: I do not want to talk about the gating items because a gate is when you do not have the clean room, right? A gate when you now are stuck for a couple of years to build your shell and to build a clean room and all the infrastructure behind it. We do not have a gating item like that. I think this is just simple blocking and tackling, as we say, or execution of getting the equipment on time. Our suppliers also need. Their supply chain is complex, and they have to get through it. It is just a period of high demand all over, and everybody is going through their challenges, but there is a very large opportunity to expand capacity, and we are. I would say that I do not see between front-end and back-end, we are going to be balanced.
Haviv Ilan: I do not want to talk about the gating items because a gate is when you do not have the clean room, right? A gate when you now are stuck for a couple of years to build your shell and to build a clean room and all the infrastructure behind it. We do not have a gating item like that. I think this is just simple blocking and tackling, as we say, or execution of getting the equipment on time. Our suppliers also need. Their supply chain is complex, and they have to get through it. It is just a period of high demand all over, and everybody is going through their challenges, but there is a very large opportunity to expand capacity, and we are. I would say that I do not see between front-end and back-end, we are going to be balanced.
Speaker #2: I don't want to talk about the gating items because the gate is when you don't have the clean room, right? The gate is when you are now stuck for a couple of years to build your shell and to build the clean room and all the infrastructure behind it.
Speaker #2: We don't have a gating item like that. I think this is just simple blocking and tackling, as we say, or execution of getting the equipment on time. Our suppliers also need their supply chain; it is complex, and they have to get through it.
Speaker #2: It's just a period of high demand all over, and everybody is going through their challenges. However, there is a very large opportunity to expand capacity.
Speaker #2: And we are. I would say that I don't see a split between front end and back end; we are going to be balanced. Of course, the higher investment we need to make when you think about capex for the longer term is always on the front end.
Haviv Ilan: Of course, the higher investment we need to make when you think about CapEx for the longer term is always on the front end. This is where the CapEx is more expensive, and also where the lead times are always longer, with the supply chain over there. This is why we are not planning only 2027 and 2028. We are actually thinking through the rest of the decade, what is our plan and how are we going to slot our future tools and even new clean rooms, so we can continue to support a range of scenarios that the market may present to us.
Haviv Ilan: Of course, the higher investment we need to make when you think about CapEx for the longer term is always on the front end. This is where the CapEx is more expensive, and also where the lead times are always longer, with the supply chain over there. This is why we are not planning only 2027 and 2028. We are actually thinking through the rest of the decade, what is our plan and how are we going to slot our future tools and even new clean rooms, so we can continue to support a range of scenarios that the market may present to us.
Speaker #2: This is where the capex is more expensive. And also where the lead times are always longer. With the supply chain over there. And this is why we are not playing all in 2027 and 2028.
Speaker #2: We are actually thinking through the rest of the decade: what is our plan, and how are we going to slot our future tools and even new clean rooms?
Speaker #2: So we can continue to support a range of scenarios that the market may present to us.
Mike Beckman: All right. Thanks, Nabil. We will move on to our final caller.
Mike Beckman: All right. Thanks, Nabil. We will move on to our final caller.
Speaker #1: All right. Thanks, Nabil. We'll move on to our final caller.
Operator: Our last question comes from the line of Vijay Rakesh with Mizuho Securities. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Our last question comes from the line of Vijay Rakesh with Mizuho Securities. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #3: And our last question comes from the line of Vijay Rakesh with Mizuho Securities. Please proceed with your question.
Vijay Rakesh: Yeah. Hi. Just a quick question. I see your data center site is growing pretty strong. It is almost like a $2.5 billion run rate this year annualized. Just wondering, as you look at 2027, do you expect that growth rate to continue another double from here? A quick follow-up. Thanks.
Vijay Rakesh: Yeah. Hi. Just a quick question. I see your data center site is growing pretty strong. It is almost like a $2.5 billion run rate this year annualized. Just wondering, as you look at 2027, do you expect that growth rate to continue another double from here? A quick follow-up. Thanks.
Speaker #4: Yeah, hi. Just a quick question. I see your data center site is growing pretty strongly. It's almost like a $2.5 billion run rate this year, annualized.
Speaker #4: Just wondering, as you look at 2027, do you expect the growth rate to continue under double from here? And a quick follow-up. Thanks.
Haviv Ilan: Yeah. We are watching, like everyone, the CapEx investment into the data center market. It does not signal right now. We are not seeing any slowdown. We are seeing continuing demand, actually growing demand. As I mentioned before, our portfolio is growing. That is what I am excited about our investment. We are not sitting still. We are creating new parts. We are continuing to attack new subsystems. So we want to continue not only to grow with the market, but also play in more sockets and ultimately gain market share. So far so good. We will see how the demand continues to develop into the next year.
Haviv Ilan: Yeah. We are watching, like everyone, the CapEx investment into the data center market. It does not signal right now. We are not seeing any slowdown. We are seeing continuing demand, actually growing demand. As I mentioned before, our portfolio is growing. That is what I am excited about our investment. We are not sitting still. We are creating new parts. We are continuing to attack new subsystems. So we want to continue not only to grow with the market, but also play in more sockets and ultimately gain market share. So far so good. We will see how the demand continues to develop into the next year.
Speaker #2: Yeah, I mean, we are watching, like everyone, the CapEx investment into the data center market. It doesn't signal right now any—we are not seeing any slowdown.
Speaker #2: We are seeing continuing demand—actually, growing demand. As I mentioned before, our portfolio is growing. That's where I'm excited about our investment. We are not sitting still.
Speaker #2: We are creating new parts. We are continuing to attack new subsystems. So, we want to continue not only to grow with the market, but also play more sockets and ultimately gain market share.
Speaker #2: So far, so good. We'll see how the demand continues to develop into next year.
Mike Beckman: And Vijay, just zooming out. When there is more power, there is more opportunity for TI. When there is more power density, there is more opportunity for TI. When there is higher voltages, there is more opportunity for TI. Obviously, these are things that are all being worked on very heavily in this end market, and again, we look forward to supporting. So you have a follow-up.
Mike Beckman: And Vijay, just zooming out. When there is more power, there is more opportunity for TI. When there is more power density, there is more opportunity for TI. When there is higher voltages, there is more opportunity for TI. Obviously, these are things that are all being worked on very heavily in this end market, and again, we look forward to supporting. So you have a follow-up.
Speaker #1: And Vijay, just zooming out: when there's more power, there's more opportunity for TI; when there's more power density, there's more opportunity for TI; when there's higher voltages, there's more opportunity for TI.
Speaker #1: And obviously, these are things that are all being worked on very heavily in this end market. And again, we look forward to supporting. So you have a follow-up?
Vijay Rakesh: Agreed. Thanks. Just a quick one. On the commentary on the EV side, does TI have more exposure on China export EV market as well? How would you characterize the EV strength just globally across regions? Thanks.
Vijay Rakesh: Agreed. Thanks. Just a quick one. On the commentary on the EV side, does TI have more exposure on China export EV market as well? How would you characterize the EV strength just globally across regions? Thanks.
Speaker #4: Agreed. Thanks. And just a quick one. On the commentary on the EV side, is this more of a does TI have more exposure on China kind of China export EV market as well?
Speaker #4: How would you characterize the EV strength just globally across regions? Thanks.
Haviv Ilan: No, as I talked many times over the last several years, China industry for the automotive industry, and especially EVs, is leading in many ways, and they are not only building for their domestic market. This is why a supplier like TI was always something that was very, very important to them. We are a global company, very diverse supply chain across the globe. We've continued to design in our parts into their systems. I think I am excited about the fact that China is growing faster their export business, because these are usually just, in terms of content, just higher content and also higher share for us there. So that also is driving the growth. Mike Beckman has mentioned before that automotive business for TI in Q3 was driven by China and the US, and we are excited about our position there.
Haviv Ilan: No, as I talked many times over the last several years, China industry for the automotive industry, and especially EVs, is leading in many ways, and they are not only building for their domestic market. This is why a supplier like TI was always something that was very, very important to them. We are a global company, very diverse supply chain across the globe. We've continued to design in our parts into their systems. I think I am excited about the fact that China is growing faster their export business, because these are usually just, in terms of content, just higher content and also higher share for us there. So that also is driving the growth. Mike Beckman has mentioned before that automotive business for TI in Q3 was driven by China and the US, and we are excited about our position there.
Speaker #2: No. As I have talked about many times over the last several years, China's automotive industry—especially in EVs—is leading in many ways.
Speaker #2: And they are not only building for their domestic market. This is why a supplier like TI was always something that was very, very important to them.
Speaker #2: We are a global company, very diverse supply chain across the globe. And we've continued to design in our parts into their systems. I think I am excited about the fact that China is growing faster their export business because these are usually just in terms of content, just higher content and also higher share for us there.
Speaker #2: So that also is driving the growth. Mike has mentioned before that automotive business for TI in Q3 was driven by China in the US.
Speaker #2: And we are excited about our position there.
Mike Beckman: All right. With that, I'm going to have Haviv Ilan close us out for the call.
Mike Beckman: All right. With that, I'm going to have Haviv Ilan close us out for the call.
Speaker #1: All right. With that, I'm going to have Haviv close us out for the call.
Haviv Ilan: Okay, so let me wrap up with what we've said previously. At our core, we are engineers, and technology is the foundation of our company. But ultimately, our objective and the best metric to measure progress and generate value to our owners is the long-term growth of free cash flow per share. Thank you and have a good evening.
Haviv Ilan: Okay, so let me wrap up with what we've said previously. At our core, we are engineers, and technology is the foundation of our company. But ultimately, our objective and the best metric to measure progress and generate value to our owners is the long-term growth of free cash flow per share. Thank you and have a good evening.
Speaker #2: Okay, so let me wrap up with what we've said previously on our call. We are engineers, and technology is the foundation of our company.
Speaker #2: But ultimately, our objective—and the best metric to measure progress and generate value for our owners—is the long-term growth of free cash flow per share.
Speaker #2: Thank you, and have a good evening.
Operator: Thank you. This concludes today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. We thank you for your participation.
Operator: Thank you. This concludes today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. We thank you for your participation.
